Marketplace - What’s up with drugstores?
Episode Date: October 15, 2024Walgreens plans to close about 14% of its national footprint in the next three years, making it the third major drugstore chain in the past year to signal it’s struggling. In this episode: Why h...ave drugstores become a tricky business model, and what happens when communities lose a pharmacy? Plus: Electric vehicle adoption grows but Americans are still cautious, an inventory data point helps indicate where the economy’s headed, and some family foster agencies are scrambling after their biggest insurer in California pulls out of the market.
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From American public media, this is Market Plans.
In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle Rizdall.
It is Tuesday today, the 15th of October.
Good as always to have you along, everybody.
For as strong as this economy is, yes, prices are higher, but inflation is down and unemployment is low.
For all of that, there are some business models right now that are just tough.
Big box retail has seen better days.
Anybody remember Bed Bath and Beyond?
Commercial real estate generally, office real estate in particular, they also come to mind.
Another that's been struggling to find its footing but has kind of maneuvered
under the radar, drugstores. Walgreens said today it's planning on closing 1,200 stores
over the next three years. That's about 14% of its national footprint. And it comes on
the heels of Rite Aid filing Chapter 11 late last year, and CVS planning to shut down a
good chunk of its brick and mortar locations too. So why? Marketplace's Matt Levin gets us going.
Let's be honest. When's the last time you went into a drug store and thought,
this place is awesome. I want to spend more time here.
Most of the retail pharmacy stores that I walk into seem to have been malnourished.
Stores are a little dingy. Shelves are a little old, the stock feels old, the format feels
old.
Josh Byerly George Hill is a healthcare equity analyst
at Deutsche Bank.
Now the whole DMV branch where you can pick up your arthritis medication vibe has hurt
sales.
But Hill says a major reason drug stores don't have the capital to upgrade their facilities?
Pharmacy benefit managers, the powerful health insurance
middlemen that negotiate drug prices with pharmacies.
Pharmacy benefit managers squeeze the retail pharmacies
on the price that they pay for prescriptions.
Three companies pay for almost 90% of all prescriptions
in the United States.
Earlier this year, the Federal Trade Commission
sued the three big pharmacy benefit managers
for anti-competitive behavior.
But retail pharmacies also have their own ambitions to blame.
Walgreens and CVS spent billions expanding into the primary care business with less than
stellar results.
Paige Meyer is an investment analyst with CFRA.
Paige Meyer I think they failed just because the consumer is not used to that being their direct care
provider.
Walgreens has not said which store locations it plans to close.
Professor Dima Cato at the USC School of Pharmacy says based on her research of past pharmacy
closure patterns.
When they do close, they're more likely to close in black and Latinx neighborhoods, low-income neighborhoods,
and neighborhoods where larger share of the population is covered by Medicare or Medicaid.
Cato says that can result in vulnerable patients not taking their medications on time or at all.
I'm Matt Levin for Marketplace.
Pharmacy retail is struggling to keep up, as Matt just pointed out.
Other kinds of retail are in a different place.
Shops big and small are gearing up for their busiest shopping season of the year.
We'll get a snapshot of retail later this week with the retail September sales report,
but we thought we'd bring you our version of that data early via some of our regulars
to see how they're planning ahead for the holiday rush.
Our first installment comes to us from Dylan Demery.
She's at She's Fly.
That's a fly fishing shop in Fort Collins, Colorado.
We are just now finishing fly fishing season.
It has been super busy.
We've been going since March.
We've sold out all of our retreats and our lessons this year.
And now we're shifting focus into getting ready for holiday season
and getting our inventory updated for November, making sure we have some good options for
people. We want to focus on some warm weather clothes. Also looking at some different bundles.
We're doing a She's Fly Beginners bundle that will be basically all you need to get started
fly fishing. So really the next two weeks we're
slammed switching into now the holiday mode and gearing down I actually have to unload
all of my gear from all of these fishing trips that we've been on and get that all stored
and then switch over to inventory for the store. So it's been really busy but we're
super excited because it's our bus busy, but we're super excited
because it's our busiest year yet and we've been most successful than we've ever been.
And that is the way you want it to be. Dylan Demery at She's Fly in Fort Collins, Colorado.
Wall Street today, nothing fly at all. Tech stocks led the way down. We will have the details.
When? Yes, when will have the details. When?
Yes, when we do the numbers. Every month, the Census Bureau, an underappreciated source of economic data, by the way, but every
month the Census Bureau puts out a report tallying up the value of all of the stuff
that businesses have in their inventories.
The next one comes out on Thursday, and every month they release includes another figure
too.
It's called the Inventory to Sales Ratio, how the inventories that businesses are holding
on to compares to how much product businesses are selling.
As Marketplace's Justin Ho reports, that ratio can tell us a lot about how the economy's
doing and where it might be headed.
The basic idea behind the Inventory to Sales Ratio is that it gives us a lot about how the economy is doing and where it might be headed. The basic idea behind the inventory to sales ratio is that it gives us a sense of how fast
inventories are turning over.
At the end of the day, you're trying to minimize your inventory and maximize your sales, and
you're trying to do that as best you can.
That's Pat Whalen.
He handles imports for Sahadi Fine Foods, a grocery store and food importer based in
Brooklyn.
Whalen says it's not like he keeps his company's inventory to sales ratio handy on his desk
at all times, but he says he always has a sense of what it is, because if it gets too
high, there are consequences.
You can always have full inventory and extra inventory, but it's going to cost.
And that buffer, if you overdo it, hurts your profit.
That's because inventory costs money.
You have to buy it often with borrowed money at today's elevated interest rates.
You also have to pay to store it and make sure it doesn't go bad.
We have that issue in the deli all the time, because you think about it, you're
producing stuff in the deli that's got to go that day or the next day.
You overdo that.
It doesn't even go anywhere.
It goes right in the trash.
Different sectors of the economy
can have different inventory to sales ratios,
says Jason Miller, a professor of supply chain management
at Michigan State University.
So your grocery store may be turning inventory
more than once a month, which they need to
because items are perishable,
versus a clothing store may only turn their inventory
every two months or even every two and a half
months.
Miller says a lot of sectors have pretty stable inventory to sales ratios, but some have seen
big spikes in recent years.
Miller says that can be a sign that those sectors will slow down in the near future.
Take machinery, for instance, which includes construction, farm and industrial machines.
We're at actually one of the highest inventories to sales levels that we've really been at
in the last 30 years.
Miller says that means machinery wholesalers have been buying too much and selling too
little.
So they'll probably try to reduce their inventory levels.
That's not a good sign if you're a machinery manufacturer, because if demand is not only
weaker but companies are also drawing down inventory,
that means their orders to you are going to be even less.
If a sector of the economy has a high inventory to sales ratio, that's also a sign that businesses
in it might start offering discounts.
Nicole DeHoratius, a professor of operations management at the University of Chicago, says
that can ripple through supply chains.
For instance, if wholesalers offer markdowns on a product,
then retailers might decide to load up on it.
Then they turn around and they're having difficulty selling this to their own
consumers. And then we would face markdowns in order to move the inventory
along the way.
A lot of sectors that struggled with high inventory levels during the pandemic
use discounts to reduce their inventories, including clothing,
furniture and electronics.
As a result?
If you look at the ratios now, they're relatively stable
and mostly for a variety of industries,
mostly back to normal.
De Horatio says companies are still going to ensure
that they have access to inventory
in case sales spike like they did early in the pandemic.
For instance, say a furniture company
might contract with additional factories to add surge capacity or I might work with suppliers that are closer to me.
So I have a shorter lead time so that if there was a disruption and they needed to ramp up
production that it could get to me faster. The Horatius says those are strategies that
will help companies meet customer demand while keeping their inventory to sales ratios as low as possible.
I'm Justin Ho from Arcadplace. I mentioned this yesterday that Boeing's been making headlines again and not the good kind.
The company said today it's going to raise billions of dollars over the next three years
by selling new bonds and new shares of stock. In case you missed it, at the end of last week,
Boeing announced it's laying off 17,000 people, about 10% of its workforce. Oh, and that strike
by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers? It is in month two now.
Marketplace's Kaylee Wells explains how Boeing found itself in something of a spiral.
Boeing's spiral started before the strike, before the pandemic, before faulty planes and fatal
crashes. Marcel Zondag leads the supply chain management program at Western Michigan University.
He says it began back in the 90s. The downfall of Boeing was driven by the merger of McDonnell Douglas.
That was when Boeing bought out its last big rival in the U.S.
After that, Zondag says, Boeing started building
airframes made out of OK bits and pieces.
And putting a number of mediocre things together doesn't create a great thing.
It's a dangerous combination of complacency, worsening quality and now declining market
share, says Tolga Turgut, who teaches aeronautics at Florida Tech.
He says those problems took a long time to hurt the company, thanks to its reputation.
That momentum, it's like a strong wind coming from the past carries you forward.
But that wind starts weakening, weakening over time.
The multiple rounds of layoffs are part of an effort to fix the past five straight years
of losses, Torgut says.
But job cuts alone won't solve the problem.
Now they're in a spiral, I think.
To get out of it first, you have to stop the bleeding, but you have to restore confidence
simultaneously.
The confidence of striking workers and airline customers that have been canceling orders.
But Ryan Ewing, founder of the industry site Airline Geeks, isn't worried about Boeing
folding. He says it's too big to go under.
You know, I mean, one of their largest clients, right, is the U.S. government. So I think
it's pretty impossible for them to fail.
Although Boeing is getting smaller in 2019, after decades of making more planes than any other manufacturer, it's seated that number one spot to its European rival Airbus.
I'm Kaylee Wells for Marketplace. We are, yes, only halfway through October, but people, the holidays, they are right around
the corner and retailers know it.
Our next check-in is with Ashley Morgan, the owner of Unglued in Fargo, North Dakota.
We started just sometime in September talking a little bit more about holidays.
We have a full-time retail shop manager.
And so she, my sister-in-law, who's been with us for a long time, has been meeting with
makers to talk about what products to bring in, what we're going to turn over back to
them to make space in a new way that we've never done.
So we have a lot more new products coming in. We do quite a bit of our ordering kind of on the fly. We're being more organized
about it this year, but we don't have a ton of cash flow, so we have to be pretty mindful
about how much we have on hand that's not out for sale. So the holiday season we look
forward to for all the reasons, but it also is what keeps our shop sustainable. So the
fourth quarter and those really last five weeks of
it are what keeps us open all year round. And so we get excited to know that that is
just the push. And then it's going to be super dead in January, so let's give it our all
right now. Ashley Morgan, the owner of Unglued in Fargo, North Dakota. Coming up.
The holiday season is kind of an afterthought right now.
Just trying to make it day by day.
One step at a time, people.
One step at a time.
First though, let's do the numbers.
Dow Industrial is down 324 points today.
Three quarters of 1%. 42,740.
The Nasdaq subtracted 187 points, 1%, 18,315.
The S&P 500 down 44 points, three quarters of 1%, 58,15.
That slide in the Nasdaq had a lot to do with investors selling off some of their holdings
and chip makers.
NVIDIA subtracted four and 7 tenths percent today.
Intel counted down about 3 and 1 third percent.
Applied Materials deleted 10 and 7 tenths of 1 percent.
Those 1200 Walgreens store closings that Matt Levin
was telling us about at the top of the program.
Wall Street approves, thank you very much.
Walgreens Boot Alliance stepped up 15 and 3 quarters percent.
Rival CVS slid three and two thirds percent bonds up
yield on the tenure Tino down 4.03 percent. You're listening to Marketplace.
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I'm Kai Rizdal. It can be prudent and sometimes even required to have
insurance coverage for whatever the case is at hand. The basics we know, right?
Cars, house, health. Also in a lot of foster care systems, the organizations that work with foster families
are required to have liability insurance.
In California, as of this month, a major insurer for foster agencies is no longer providing
coverage, which means those agencies that recruit and monitor foster parents can't.
From LAist here in Los Angeles, Elihu has the story.
Adriana Mancia made a promise she would help kids after her daughter recovered from leukemia
almost three decades ago.
She didn't know exactly how, but years later...
I looked at a magazine, a penny saver, that came here to the house and it just, it said,
you know, like, if you want to help kids, you know, they're in foster care.
And I was like, huh, let me, like, if you want to help kids, you know, they're in foster care.
And I was like, huh, let me, let me call and see what this is all about.
She made the call, got certified, and began fostering kids in her Southern California
home.
She thought she'd maybe foster for a couple of years, but that was more than two decades
ago.
So this house originally was only a three-bedroom house.
And now we have six. She's cared for 150 children over the years,
including five who are with her long term, like from eight years old to 21.
They come here for Christmas and birthdays. And yeah, they call me mom. They're my kids.
She's been able to provide all this care because of a close working relationship with a foster family agency. These organizations contract with counties to recruit, certify,
and support foster parents. But recently, Mancia was worried the organization she fosters
through would have to close. That's because the insurer that provides liability coverage
to 90% of the market for foster agencies in the state is pulling out citing a rise in
legal costs.
Pamela Davis is president and CEO of the non-profits insurance alliance of California.
So that became unsustainable.
Davis says they've been seeing similar increases in other states, but California stood out.
Last year, a jury decided to award $25 million to three kids in Northern California who were
sexually abused by their foster father.
The foster family has to pay some of the damages, but the agency is responsible for about 60%
of those costs.
It was kind of the match that lit this whole pile of kidney.
Without insurance, foster family agencies have to find new coverage or transfer families
to another agency that's insured. Debbie Manners heads Sycamores, a mental health agency that also runs Foster Family Services. That agency's insurance is expiring in November,
and they're scrambling to find a new insurer. So far, they haven't had any luck.
We're still looking, but it was clear to us that we wouldn't find a company that
would insure us if we didn't close. So we made the very, very painful,
difficult decision to do that.
To close the foster family services portion of the agency. Sycamores is now in the process
of transferring families to other agencies and to the county.
They're devastated. We have some families we've had since 1998. It's just very hard. It's very painful.
SONIA DARA And the stakes are high. There are around 9,000
children under the care of foster families who work with these kinds of agencies in California.
And in many cases, counties have limited capacity to take on the work coordinating with and
supporting foster families. For foster parent Adriana Mancia, she's appreciated the support her
agency's given to her over the years. She can call social workers around the clock if she needs
any help. She's currently caring for two boys, one who's been with her family for the last six years.
Adriana Mancia You know, it's already hard enough for them to be a part of their families. So it's
like, try to give them, you know, the comfort that they need
when they're going through those hard times.
She was relieved when she found out the agency she works with was able to secure another
insurer, but the cost is about 30% higher. And that's just for the next year. In Los
Angeles, I'm Ellie Yoo from Marketplace. place. Here's a dispatch from the Marketplace desk of cognitive economic dissonance.
Carmakers, as you've perhaps heard, have said they're going to walk back some of their
electric vehicle production targets.
They've delayed and even canceled some new models and changed their focus from fully
electric to building more hybrids.
Actually though, sales of EVs are growing at a pretty good clip, up 11% domestically
in the third quarter.
That's the latest count from Kelley Blue Book.
Record highs for both volume and market share.
And globally, and this is from the market intelligence firm Roe Motion, EV sales were
up by a third last month, thanks mostly to China.
Marketplace's Savannah Maher has more on that. A few years ago, the US auto industry set aggressive
production goals for electric vehicles. Automakers were a bit overenthusiastic about them. But Jessica
Caldwell, head of insights with Edmunds, says consumer demand didn't quite pan out. That means dealerships
are now somewhat overstocked with EVs. And, says Stephanie Valdez-Streety with Cox Automotive,
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options on the lot. If you need a full-size SUV, like the EV9 supports that, or Rivian,
or you want a smaller, more compact vehicle, whether it's a Mach-E or the Prologue. But those
deals and expanding inventory won't last forever, says Jessica Caldwell with Edmonds.
So if we have this conversation in a year or two years, that may not be the case because
automakers have scaled back production.
American automakers, anyway.
While China races to dominate the market with help from generous subsidies from its government,
and Europe tries to catch up, US consumers still have cold feet, says Stephanie Brinley with S&P Global Mobility.
You really have to get these people that are kind of interested but not sure and super
practical to make a leap.
Brinley says EV infrastructure here has improved.
Vehicle range is expanding.
But consumer anxiety on those fronts is tough to crack.
Especially since the other half of the conversation tends to be, it's going to be better in a little bit.
Which is enough to keep a lot of people in their gas cars. I'm Savannah Marr for Marketplace. Last up on our round of retail check-ins ahead of the holidays is Philip Rollins.
He's the owner of Offbeat.
That's a record and comic shop in downtown Jackson, Mississippi.
The holiday season is kind of an afterthought right now.
Just trying to make it day by day at this point.
But we do plan on participating on RSD Black Friday, like we do every year.
And I asked my customers about turning in, like looking at the list of exclusive records
that come out and we'll place our order for it.
Normally Black Friday tends to be pretty decent. It's not as big as the record store day, but
it tends to do pretty well because we have a big sale on our pre-loved vinyl.
The holidays will be pretty big.
We're going to decorate. We're going to have a festival here downtown called Capital City Lights,
and we're just going to continue to build community with the anime community and with the record community. So we're going to do the best we can and with what we have
and continue to support the people that support us. Philip Rollins, offbeat is his store, Jackson, Mississippi is the place.
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