Marketplace - Why Weve Got An Eye On This Weeks Corporate Earnings
Episode Date: January 11, 2026A few big box retailers report earnings soon, including Target, Walmart and Lowe’s. That could give some clarity on the state of the American consumer as we head into the holiday shopping s...eason. Though of course Nvidia, the top-performing tech firm on Wall Street, will be the most exciting earnings call of the week. We’ll explain what all the hype’s about. Also in this episode: the NAR predicts homes sales will jump 14% next year and a former coal mining town pivots to nuclear.Every story has an economic angle. Want some in your inbox? Subscribe to our daily or weekly newsletter.Marketplace is more than a radio show. Check out our original reporting and financial literacy content at marketplace.org — and consider making an investment in our future.
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Government date is coming soon, but not yet.
From American public media, this is Marketplace.
In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle Risdahl.
It is Monday, today 17 November.
Good as always to have you along, everybody.
You know, when you come back from being out of the office for a while,
a week or maybe two, if you're lucky, for a vacation or something,
and then you open your work email and you spend hours plowing through it all,
that, except for 44 days away, and when you're allowed to come back to your government's statistical job, the whole economy is waiting for you to start producing again.
All of which I mentioned, because the last data we had on retail sales in this economy usually comes from the Census Bureau.
The last data we have is from August, TBD on when we're going to get those figures for September and October, if at all, as the Bureau works through its backlog.
In the meanwhile, though, we are going to get quarterly earnings from one.
bunch of big retailers this week, starting with Home Depot tomorrow, Lowe's Target and Walmart to follow.
So using them as a proxy, Marketplaces Henriette previews what those results might tell us about the health of retail and about the consumers who power it as holiday shopping season looms.
Big retail companies will tell investors this week how much money they brought in between August and October, but they'll also likely talk about how many things they sold.
And that's what Gorov Chabra, managing directorate Alex Partners, will be paying attention to.
When a consumer walks in and buys fewer things at a higher price, that could result in a higher revenue performance by retailers.
Fine for those big box retailers, but if consumers are buying less stuff overall, that might not be great news for the economy.
What it will tell us is how consumers may or may not be tightening their wallets in the short and medium term.
And Jessica Ramirez, managing director of the consumer collective, says a lot of shoppers, especially on the lower end of the income spectrum, are feeling pinched.
Food is very expensive. Rent is expensive. Utilities are expensive. Yet those are the priorities. And so their discretionary spend is quite limited.
Just in time for the holidays, the most discretionary time of the year. Ramirez's firm has been surveying consumers who make less than $75,000 a year, and most of them are in bargaining.
hunting mode. They've already either started shopping for holiday or we'll be shopping ahead of
Thanksgiving. To find the best deals. That early shopping, though, might rob retailers of some of their
usual traffic in the weeks leading up to Christmas. But Rick Miller, a partner at the retail
consulting firm Big Chalk Analytics, says his data about consumers show something a little bit different.
What we're seeing is actually relatively robust spending intent for the holidays. His
firm also surveyed consumers earlier this month. Most said their household incomes have actually
risen and they've improved their savings a bit this year, even those on the lower end of that
K-shaped economy we keep talking about. Even though this is still a consumer segment that is under
a lot of pressure, very slowly, very generally, things have gotten a little bit better for them
over the course of this year. Which could make for a better holiday season for families and big
retailers. I'm Henry App for Marketplace.
Wall Street today, tech was the drag, including a certain chip design company you were going
to hear about in the bottom half of the program. We will have the details when we do the numbers.
We've been reporting pretty much all year on this program that the American housing market
in 2025 has been stuck. High prices, low inventory, current owners not wanting to sell
and lose their very attractive mortgage interest rates. The 30 year right now, by the by, about
That's 6.3%.
Turns out, though, that mortgage applications have been moving up of late compared to the
same time last year.
And the National Association of Realtors predicts 2026 is going to be a good one, a 14% jump
in sales.
So, Marketplace's Daniel Ackerman looked into who might be buying.
A lot of folks are getting pretty tired of waiting on the sidelines of the housing market,
says Lisa Sturdivant of Bright MLS.
We're sort of reverting back to the mean, and it makes sense to see more sales next year because
of pent-up demand. There's also a psychological barrier, says Ani Ban Basu, CEO of SAGE Policy Group,
and that's the interest rate on a 30-year fixed mortgage. It's been hovering around 6.5%
and it could dip below 6 next year. I've spoken to many people who manufactured and installed doors,
manufactured and installed windows, and they really believe that once it falls below that threshold,
then the lid will come off the market. Especially in the South and Southwest, which have seen more
housing construction. Basu says prices in places like Miami and Phoenix have actually been falling.
And that's because those built environments are poised for in-migration. Still, affordability will remain a
challenge and could impact who will be buying. Lawrence Yun is with the National Association of
Realtors. We have a huge baby boomer population retiring each year. Often with equity in a home already.
Eun says that used to mean retirees buying in warm, sunny locales. But that's a lot. But that's
it's not always the case anymore.
Some people go to Arizona, some people go to Florida,
but surprisingly large number was to be near where their grandkids are located.
Yun's group has dubbed this the grand baby effect.
But for first-time buyers who have just regular babies, or none at all, and no equity built up,
sadly, I don't see a lot of relief for the entry level of the market.
Michael Orbino is a realtor in Bellevue, Washington.
He expects a jump in sales, but he says that'll be driven
by high-end buyers.
And so that whole discussion of, is it a better time to rent versus buy?
I don't know that that's a universal answer.
With rental costs ticking down, Orbino says some renters might prefer to sign that lease
for one more year.
I'm Daniel Ackerman for Marketplace.
If I might paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, the only things certain in this world are death, taxes,
and here in late 2025, an ever-increasing demand.
for electricity. Far less certain, though, bordering on unsettled, is where all that power is going
to come from. And that has opened the door for more nuclear energy. Bill Gates has thrown a billion
dollars into a first-of-its-kind nuke project in rural southwestern Wyoming that scheduled to open in
2030. Wyoming Public Radio's Kentland Tan brings us the story. Terror Powers Andy Cruchall is in a
hard hat, waving vehicles and people around, including me. Now, we've got to try.
to keep getting you run over.
That'd be ideal.
They're standing up a building that by this time next year
will house a nuclear power plant training center,
identical to the real thing.
By the time this building's complete,
we'll have maybe 60, 75 operators lined up to be trained.
But today, it's still bulldozers pushing around a big pile of dirt.
All right, well done, fellas.
That's what we're looking for.
Wyoming's Governor Mark Gordon is here to see the progress
us too. Hi, Kevin Gordon. How are you? Good, how are you? Good to see you. He's wearing a cowboy hat
sitting in a conference room on site. Gordon says he's excited about the flurry of activity.
We are adding to the energy matrix. He says nuclear, gas, wind, coal, it's all needed.
There's so much more demand for electricity. It really has exploded. The multi-billion dollar power plant will use
a first-of-its-kind technology that the company claims is safer and smaller than traditional
nuclear plants. Gordon says even lawmakers in D.C. recognize how important this is for the country.
It's really nice to hear Wyoming is such a prominent mover and shaker and leader in that space.
And Kemmer is sort of a test case, a nearby old coal town, all too familiar with the boom and
bus cycle. That's actually why Brian Muir was brought on six years ago,
city administrator to help stabilize the local economy.
I meet him at City Hall.
Oh, I didn't know the governor was coming to town.
Great. I'd like to talk to that guy myself.
He's probably too busy for me.
Talk to the governor because Muir is still solving the puzzle of Kemmer's future.
The nuclear plant is key.
Very enthusiastic for this and it's very much needed.
Needed because just a few miles down the highway is Kemmer's lifeblood.
a coal-fired power plant that's slated to fully switch to natural gas at the end of the year,
putting in question the future of the local coal mine and it's roughly 160 miners.
So those jobs are at risk, I would say. Yeah, a lot of them are at risk.
Ideally, the nuclear industry will absorb those workers. The plant will need about 250 employees.
But it could take a few years. And while Muir is grateful for the incoming new jobs and growth to Kemmer,
it's also a big stress.
That's because the state legislature slashed property taxes this year, which means town revenues dropped.
Well, we've lost tens of thousands of dollars that are not in our budget anymore.
And so it makes it harder to provide the services that people need.
This rural community needs about $10 million in road repairs, plus a new wastewater treatment plant with a price tag of at least $45 million.
$1, Muir doesn't know how the town will pay for it.
You know, there's more need than there is revenue.
He says these are bottom-line infrastructure needs for Kemmer to grow.
And all that work has to happen before Bill Gates' nuclear power plant can take off in this little town in the sagebrush.
In Kemmer, Wyoming, I'm Keatlin Tan for Marketplace.
The good news is that after more than 5 million people were affected by delays and or cancellations,
the Federal Aviation Administration's flight restrictions were lifted this morning.
The really good news is that air traffic controllers and TSA agents and other essential federal workers are finally being paid for the work they've been doing.
The not-so-great news is that the FAA's annual funding is still tangled up in politics in the congressional budget cycle.
And as Marketplace's Kimberly Adams reports, that makes things very, very messy.
You've probably heard this recently, but there was already a shortage of air traffic.
controllers even before the shutdown. And now, even with it over, says Jeff Davis, a senior
fellow at the nonpartisan Eno Center for Transportation. These interruptions keep making it more
and more difficult to train new air traffic controllers and to finance and adequately install
the systems needed to modernize the air traffic control system. Other places, like Canada and several
European countries, don't have this problem, according to Rick Geddes, who teaches and directs the
program for infrastructure policy at Cornell. The problem with air traffic control in the United
States is that it's subject to the vagaries of congressional appropriations processes,
and that makes it subject to political forces. Gettys and others argue for a different model of
funding, like the one in Canada, that doesn't rely so much on government funding and instead
leans more on user fees from the airlines. Airlines already have to collect
fees to help fund the FAA, but that money can't be used automatically during a shutdown.
Here's Jeff Davis at the Eno Center for Transportation again.
There is discussion of putting them to a user fee for they charge the airlines directly
for the number of hours in the air, take off from landings, et cetera, instead of the current system.
Because the current system is very much about the number of people in the airplane.
But opponents of that kind of change say it would serve to benefit larger airlines at the expense of
smaller operators and private aviation. We reached out to the FAA for comment, but they didn't get back
to us. Ed Bolin is the president of the National Business Aviation Association and says the focus
should instead be on implementing the FAA's multi-billion dollar plan to modernize the whole system
over the next few years. Parts of the air traffic control system are antiquated. So we have a clear
plan from the FAA for phasing in the building of a brand new air traffic control system,
and that includes surging a number of air traffic controllers.
Who may need a bit more encouragement to sign up for the job after watching what just
went down.
In Washington, I'm Kimberly Adams for Marketplace.
Coming up.
It's sour.
It's visceral.
You eat it and your mouth tuckers.
The business of sour, but first, sure, why not?
Let's do the numbers.
Dow Industrial's down 557 points today.
One and two tenths percent closed at 46,000 to 590.
The NASDAQ gave back 192 points, about 8 tenths percent, 22,708.
The S&P 500 down 61 points, 9 tenths percent, 6672 there.
Checking in on some of those retailers, Henry was telling us about.
Home Depot dipped 1.2 percent.
Today lows descended one and a quarter percent.
Target drooped 1.6.
percent today. Packaging manufacturers sealed air is being taken private by investment firm
CD and R, which is paying just over 10 billion Smolians. Shares in sealed air deflated three and a
10th percent sealed air deflated? Come on. Food service and facilities management company Aramark.
Miss revenue and profit expectations for the last quarter cooled five and a quarter percent shares did
today you are listening to Marketplace. This is Marketplace. I'm Kyle Rizdal. There are
give or take 4,500 publicly listed companies in the United States.
There are a couple of 100 maybe that are household names.
There is arguably one right now, though, that really, really matters.
InVIDIA reports earnings Wednesday after the closing bell.
Wall Street is pretty much expecting another blowout quarter from the premier designer of
semiconductors that are used to develop and teach and run AI on computers around the world.
And as Marketplace's Mitchell Hartman reports, all eyes are going to be on the
company and what CEO Jensen Huang says for clues about that much-discussed AI bubble.
NVIDIA is the main game on Wall Street this week, with investors looking for revenue and earnings
to be up more than 50% year-over-year. Dan Ives at Wed Bush Securities is a well-known bull on NVIDIA.
Invita is the foundation, not just of the tech world, not just of AI revolution, but I'd say the
stock market.
That might seem a bit hyperbolic, but ever since the AI stock boom kicked off,
Ives says Nvidia's been way out in front, developing and supplying the chips powering the
rapidly expanding technology.
It's starting off with trillions of dollars being spent on data center buildouts, GPUs, capacity.
But where it's ultimately going, robotics, autonomous, it's year three of an eight to ten year
build-out. And where we are right now, year three is going strong, based on the other tech earnings
we've seen this quarter, says Angelo Zeno at CFRA Research.
Thus far, it's been most of Nvidia's customers that have reported, right? The Microsoft's,
metas, alphabets, and Amazon's of the world, and for the most part, we've seen in line to better
than expected results. How frothy the AI sector has become is giving some investors the jitters,
says e-marketers Jacob Bourne.
There is just rising concern that we're in this AI bubble.
And Navidia is such a linchpin for the AI sector
that it would be very much implicated in any kind of market correction.
Dan Ives, on the other hand,
predicts continued growth and strength across the sector.
It's easy to call a bubble from the 25th floor of a New York City office building,
but we're out there around the world in Taiwan, in China,
and trying to understand what demand looks like, and it's not a bubble.
Still, many Americans are increasingly worried AI will be a job killer.
Angelo Zeno says in some ways it may be.
A lot of these junior-level type jobs in a lot of different industries,
AI in many respects can replace.
So companies may well-cut workers to pay for the AI that could boost productivity for those who remain.
I'm Mitchell Hartman.
for Marketplace.
Hey, when you go get a snack, what do you reach for?
Do you go salty or do you go sweet?
I ask because it may be time to add a third option to the mix.
Sour demand, it seems, for sour foods is growing like crazy as Meheera Rivers wrote about
the other day in taste.
Meher, it's good to talk to you.
Thanks for having me.
I would like you to begin, please, with these grapes that are coated with citric acid.
I would like you to tell me about them, and then I'd like you to tell me why they exist.
Oh, they're wonderful.
If you haven't had them.
I have not, and I probably will not, but go ahead.
Oh, I highly recommend them.
They are quite delicious.
Wait, can I get them at my local Piggly Wiggly or what?
You know, I think you can.
I think at this point, they are everywhere.
So they should be accessible, but they are very simple.
It's frozen fruit.
It's a company called Fruit Riot.
And what they do is they just coat it in, I believe it's a little bit of coconut oil,
then they add some citric acid, malic acid. And that's it. That's your snack. It's frozen. It's sour. It's
visceral. You eat it and your mouth puckers. And it's really, really quite delicious.
Okay. Well, you know, beading the eye of the beholder and all that stuff. But I will try. I promise you. I will try them.
But I want to know why and where has come this tartness and sourness trend, because this market is booming, as you say.
It is booming. And I see it.
everywhere. I see it on the internet. I see it in restaurants. And, you know, I think that a lot of
it has to do with a generation of flavor curious diners who are going out and looking for new
experiences. The other one I thought, which is so interesting, is that you have this highly
engaged online audience and it feels like it's somewhat of a one-dimensional interaction. You're
staring at your screen. You know, oftentimes you're isolated, but then you come across this visual
of someone eating something sour, and it could even induce a response, a physical response in the viewer.
So your mouth starts to water. So I think that, you know, sort of tapping into that really
engaging at times extreme emotional and physical reaction can explain why this taste is taking off.
I had thought, though, that like sourness denoted that food had gone bad and was to be avoided,
like historically, right? Yeah, absolutely. And that's part of the tension in the story.
And I think, you know, that's sort of the beauty of fermentation.
And I think for a long time, different cultures have explored with this boundary between repulsive and compelling.
And, you know, people have tried cheese and pickles and cured meats for generations.
This has been staples of cuisines all over the world.
And so crossing that border or going back and forth between that sort of questionable line is always existed.
Gutsi move, going back and forth between that questionable line.
I do think it's, I do think it's interesting that in the
popular culture, it has gone from candies and sweets mostly, right, sourpatch kids and warheads
and all those things, to now stuff for adults, right? And it's being actively marketed that way.
Absolutely. And I think part of that is a little bit of nostalgia. I think, you know,
millennials have aged into a buying demographic. And I am a millennial. And I remember growing up
and just eating crazy sour candies as a child. And so these are absolutely things that I turn to
again. But even elsewhere, like in cooking in the kitchen, you've got people using things like
Yuzu and kimchi and ingredients that are pantry staples in other cultures, but they're sort of like
permeating the American pantry as well. And that's definitely appealing to an older audience.
There is a supply demand thing here, right? The demand now is clearly rising and companies are going
to just start pumping out more of this stuff because companies are companies, right? So we're going to
see more of it. Oh, absolutely. And I mean, even since
I published the story, it seems like every big candy company is releasing an extreme sour version of something it had.
Extreme sour, because that's what we need.
Right, it is.
I think, so Skittles just released something, I believe they have like an extreme sour version of an already kind of sour candy.
And I feel like we're going to just be seeing this more and more in candy and even beyond.
Like I know protein is a very hot topic right now.
and I just recently saw protein bars that were sour, sour protein bars.
So I think it's really permeating a lot of different angles.
I have to go find some sour grapes.
That's what I have to do right now.
I think you'll like them.
All right.
I'll tell you what.
I'll call you back, okay?
Amazing.
All right.
Mehera Rivers, radiant taste and about sour grapes and a bunch of other things.
Meher, thanks a bunch.
I appreciate your time.
Thank you so much.
This final note on the way out today in which Bitcoin proves not to be immune from the investing yips that seem to be stalking Wall Street.
The granddaddy of cryptocurrencies lost another two and a half percent today trading below $91,500 at one point.
Yes, that is still a whole lot of money for a, let's be honest, not entirely reliable store of value, much less a viable means of exchange.
But it is a far cry from its high this year just shy of 125,000.
dollars for one bitcoin amir babawi kailanesh john gordon noya car amanda peacher and stephanie seeker
are the marketplace editing staff kelly silvera is the news director and i'm kai risdal we will
see you tomorrow everybody this is apm hey it's dava broncatchio host of the marketplace
morning report it has been one year since the costliest set of wildfires in california history
U.S. history, and by at least one calculation, the history of the world, 16,000 structures were
destroyed, most of them homes. I can quote your figures about insured versus uninsured losses
measured in billions. But as people in the fire zones face year two, we go from macro to micro.
I'm checking in with the neighbors on one street in Altadena, where 15 homes were destroyed
on a single block. These are my own neighbors. I lost a home on that street, too.
Join us for on-the-ground reporting as we hear from people still dealing with insurance, getting permits, finding contractors.
One guy had to go through 30 contractors to find one with the right skills he could afford.
Plus, for most, rebuilding is taking years.
How do people find the money to live elsewhere?
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