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My abolita started I'm, I'm my is lastimando and he is lastimating

and down and down. And there's the same, there was something that was a move here.

And it was a sackito rojo. In that my mom almost and I,

and I all said, here's here's there here's, they're with a ballse,

the agar the person the pastor and that thing was a something, you know,

you know, you know, it's a carous and from that saco, he was taking a lot of porqueries, like the bones, things negras, other stamp of the Santa Mewart.

In one occasion, we thought to say, we'd be for the almas that not are in peace,

and we signallam to see the cemetery. But as the three days that we're to say, Ruega for

them, when we were we've been to the cemetery, it would say, the part

the Cementario. A A man, Ismael, he said a groterie, what is that? What is that? He started, he's a sussed. And it's

and it's a man with revosso is like resando. Imagineate, six and a minute of the morning.

That time I was with them. We got to the cemetery. When we got to the gabeta

that's that was from out of the from the Cementerer the barred not here

d, it was up up to up. So, that was a disnivele of the barred. From, it's very, very chiquita. But

from it, it's down. It's actually about. It's a very, very great. So, that the woman? It was about floating. Saludus and welcome amateurs of the un-knownsteads. The first chapter of

More than the MED with Jesus of Nazareth Martinez. And today we have an invite of the luj, a badrino a tally of terror.

Uff, Papa. How you're how you're good, thank you thank you

for the invitation. I'm being content to be the genesis of your project this, you've been you've been

on the other other podcast and the truth is that I'm saying the same to say

you're very into thank you thank you thank you you know you you know

you know you this is a no here we're we're all we're

conform in the marcha, but, we just we can't talk about the phenomenon. Yeah, much of our time.

We're going to thank you. No, thank you. We've got to each one of the messages, that you've invited to

each one of the chapters. The fact we've done very good, very good a lot of our project.

I'm going to start, you're going to you, has passed for some situation paranormal?

For there we've heard that you've talked about your abuela. Yeah. about,

about what Has passed some experiences a little supernatural, is something interesting. What can you say about that? Look, see, I've lived experiences for normal. In fact, was one of the reasons for the way we create this project. I've experienced that I've talked earlier in other podcasts where me have invited. But I want to tell you the of my abulita. Because it's a that, that no succeeded when I was a kid,

as the other but if was one of of the most because it's when I'm to know

to know the the other the bad of the brotheria my

my my people who know that was my my second mother

my mom was a master so there there there

in Mexico especially in when your parents are your

doctors and when when they initiating, those mandans always always to the

zones very retirated very rural even there were moments where my mom

she was made in a place that was to get to get

you're six hours and getting to that's four

hours but coming so I'm so that I'm there

was there for the years 2010 2015 no there

no there now now so now I believe, that she,

to be to be a car at a car at a car with a hour and she standing there

that is another thing that's a thing, there's, there's, because she there's

there too, so right we're going to go to yeah. I'm here. I'm with my

son- littleitos, with my little the time with her all the

time with her, I'm, I'm, I'm that's there were moments where my mom

like for certain reasons had to be in other place I'm I'm always I'm going to my abuelita

not for her to be to be for her always always looking this this side

to be being in the years pass the time and my was my

mother was a mom but was a mom of people more that are maestros. Here in Mexico

is the famous Isth. So she had an exe and was a woman that constantly had access to the services

medical, to the services of the service of health and shekees constant. I was

all the time I would with her on her and acetyos constantes my my abuela

not had a formidid chronic degenerative diabetes, impertencion my my mother,

no she was a woman was a very very All the time I was going to

because me be yeah coming this this, oh, yeah has a lot oh, yeah,

I'm always I'm always yeah, you know, yeah, you know, no, no,

that's not, exactly, exactly. So, so, because, why I'm, I'm part

important of the relato. One day, this was in the 2016 for there, 2016,

2017, Migo, because in 2018, we're not, 18, we're we'll we'll perv' we're

in a few years with us with ushkew normal and he's saying he said my mom that for sure, she's called Francis I'm Francisco, I'm Francisco he said Paquita let me feel me

I'm sorry what you're mom me I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry I'm so it was something incredible to talk about a person that a person that was

that was a adult a major Sana to to get in coma in two days but inmediate

she said she said a sensation in this part of the and that she was

to move and then we're we're we're we're we're we're

something to be the next she she didn't she not this she was of

a bandadera that occupied some a Poy, baston, nothing, a man, a man,

I mean, a lot, I'm a lot, I'm a very good good at but she

and she started with problems to come in and it was where the family started

to be because. There here came a point clave. They started to get

to get her to study, and not there medically nothing to nothing

at the view. Nothing to the thing are to turn to

are a little rar as when she starts to say, I'm going to an animal in my camera. Siento, I'm like a Culebra. Ah, you say, is a culebra. Siento, I feel

how it's a feeling, I feel like it, I'm, like, it's, like, it's enroja in my torso and me and I'm peretar. And, he said,

my mom, and me dole and me lastima. For favor, revisa the colchon, revise it. revisal.

Well, there's my mom, not revisiting with my pap. Quitan sabanas, move in the camera,

he can't all. It's that there's that that was that was that was that was a

that's they had to buy another colchon, new becito and he was

going to the same. To the part, his health was deteriored horrible,

or that's horrible. A decadement a strong, it's

a delgaz the force in the the the power in the course it does it the comming

the mobility that was a so it was a change a big but very rapid

in that process my family is Christiana we we're we're we're

to do you and we start to do and do not and there

a person that has the ministerio of liberation and and we say we have to

prepare us because to your old little they're working and it's a very,

very very hard because it's going to I'm going I'm I'm in other

chapters when there there's there can do until 30

years so the person was like like per the

brille and it's a process like a more

a life all very rapid. So, we're all the family

is to prepare and in that lapse of preparation was a first time a month of

a year and the family was in the house of my mom and

and because all we all we we're that in any

that we're in that moment that that that

was that was that that we're we're trying the fortaleza spiritual,

or praying, a yunando, to my house were things rare. There's a part of the house of my

mom that has the man that has and the part of the tachshunds and when they're going to

get animalitos and it's it's and it's and it's back. So, so it's.

Well, in the madrugada there was a little, but there was

something that had like a commons, no, no, no, no, I was to come to, get to, the point where we were not

we're in we're doing, and I'm talking to, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, and he

had to know. All we all we're that, what is that? It's what is. No, it's a cat,

no, it's a ardilla, because it's a animalita, no, it was something that was

something we was, he'd, and he'd and he's soot-a-and-and-so-y-go-and-so-you-go-one, but never was heard, where he'd halle-ha. Exactly.

This, seguido, of that, my abu-dru-dragas, my abu-a-taques spiritual, said that, that, he'd bea-form, like, of this time, more or less, that they'd beckon in the stomago,

he caused an dolor. She, was an, something, because we'd beac-as-as-a-costed, I'd not-p'd be able to-dermin, and he started to to quecharse but horrible

horrible horrible overridden this time he's a person to the

the church christian and he here I'm here I'm there's a little decepticism

in me I mean I'm I'm sure I'm very observative and I I said

if this person not is what is he's going to do something he will

say he's he's he's he's only he was he he's the

solo and I don't I don't I know the I'm he's not I'm

he's in a whatever I'm so I'm know I'm gonna know

he's to be to do the house I'm and my

family and and get the and my and he

he's here it's here it's in the colchon

and all he he's he's a new is

he's here I'm no I do I Papa.

Ben, busken above of the camera, that's here, it's here, it's here,

they're they're they're they're and they're looking at all the moment,

no, they're they then. So, then it's there's there,

my papa, take the cuchillo and open the cold with the

phone of his cell phone, and the point to to get and we we, and

we've we've, and we Like, so, like, Like, is that there's a there's a that's

that you're a little, so it's like, so I'm to have, and the of those

colchions that have like, so it's, so it's, it's a way, oh, well,

so, there, and the pastor so, and so it and so, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, he, and he's, put in the hands,

and he started there in that in that the colchon, and they're, and they a stampita of the Santa

Mnepra. In that moment, all said, oh, how did it? How came? Because, the colchon is new. The person in no

moment is a car to get the colchon. He's so. And how they put it? How do you

I said, what demonious is going to be going to and the Paco Rasonable, question and

many things, saying, what demonious I just I've got to see

in that moment they're they're a horrible and they're a

horrible and I'm yeah yeah my abolita she got

to get all all all all all all

he got a family no this never I've

never I've that this part I'm going to

let get a very I'm let's let me to dream with her, for

favor. No, well, so, yeah, I'll end. It's going, and my abuela, again, Kai. How, and now, why? How, how is possible that, and, again, my

abelita, begins to to fall, to get, to get, and another this person, regress, the person of the

church, and says, we're, we're, to borrow to know, because this is so fortissimo.

Someone came. Someone came, someone did a question that

we're we're and he he's he's he. No can be

he. Because it's the family not can be he. We're we say repeat the

same story. All the time pesidissima all the time with attacks

my wife and you orando in the madruadas with attacks

paralysis of the same we we'd things and he intensified and he says

this person this second time is more more more fervent preparense prepare it's very

very very this person and he starts now he starts in languages

so it's and it's to feel a very the place but

first was like very and my my abuel and

my me, I'm lassimando. In that point my abulita only had a

baton because if needed to be to the mano, he had no had no a more

a biton, now I don't have a back to be this person another way I, I'm,

uh, this person that I never never a, I said, I mean, I said,

I said, I said, I'm still a little septico. And he He says, if he says that the

stals amandos, because in this moment is there. And he said some words, the which are allusion, that God, does visible all the invisible and

revela all. A fact, in that moment, he said, me going to get to you, have been you, because

they have to get a bat. I went because they had to carry her to get her, to get her

the rob. And, and, That's that this case, I got more

impacted because this person that was doing and I'm doing this thing that he was

he was a little she came to my abel. And he he's the bat to my

old and the and the back of the center, between his was a little that was

and it was a little and it was a little my mom almost he's and I

and all and they're, here's there, here's that. Agarra, with a ballast, the agar to the person, the pastor, and it was over the floor, and that thing was moved, my man. No, I was it, I can't believe, because

it was, you know, it was it, it was a carouser, but it was a sack. It was a, yeah, what I remember that was like, it was like, a little, like, a little, rojito, like mojadito, and it was put in the Piso and that's

a carousal. Because is like this. So, it was like,

palpitabit in that moment all, all, they're to be this,

and with a cutter, a tanger, a tanger, the pastor starts

to be to and he to get to get a lot of stuff,

you, you're like, those, things negas, other stamp

of the the Santa Morte. and it And they're And so Something

is that when they're in the time is that when gasoline or they put in alcohol what is 100% flammable this no

No, it's not, no, it was not it came about, I'd go ahead and they'd

and they'd around, well, it was, well, it was all around, less what to have to

get to get to less what to get to then. So, it's

no, it's that is that is that all, they're to know,

to clam to come to come to and it a smell a lot supermating

fettito. In that moment, this person us explains that the person that the

night went to to intensification to do that because it was

like a entire. So the curious is that this person without

us to go to to look to the family

and exiled, desap of our lives. You know what he said. And all said,

well, the abelita she recovered. Vivio. The fact is that no. But, but,

but also was the committed that he wanted. Because he came to what he

explained. I've interviewed, I've interviewed, is that the body suffered a

damage. The body physical suffered a of a man of a

person major. So, and unfortunately the body had the

damage. This this work contributed to accelerate his process of now so, but not

was a cause, so as a cause, no, that was the, that was the cause was the deteriorer in

his body, but not was the commetive of the person, because the committed that was

that the true of the was made, the brusheria, but the only that the body was only,

but you think that has been with the objective to do do it to do

the kind of a family that had had been much power. Much

power. I was going a moment of persecution both for people as well as

the same policeia because he paid prestamos he was in cargos political

very very and the rare is that he said to my mom no I'm

no I go to go and more and I have money and I go to

go and all world, but how? No, no, no, I don't. I have money in the bank of Swiss. There I have I'm, me they're going to give. I'm going to go to go back. And you're going to be the objective of that

work? Look, look, as well, you know, they're saying, for this, this, because what they're going to avoid is that your and, well, your person no, no, no, no, no, care and no, pyrrassel of the boss, or like, you know,

so, if you just, yeah, God, you know, no, no, not you contaminants with odio, with God. In the church, always will be so, never they're going to say, it was this person. No. Even it has been partisive of the cult of

the, of the, of the, to use it to vulgaria. Exactly. So, no you know, we know. We know, we know, we know, we're supposed for obvious reasons. But the person if me said, is that, no,

I'd like to, let's go to do it, and he's do, do you do, do do do do it, and today's, I can't say that it's doing, because we're entranes

a time and the fact is that, no, my friend that the

famous rebote exists. And I can't say that good but but I

always I've said and all the time I mention, every that's that was

the story then. So, it's it's paying with it's not the most

he's he did what he's a person that he's a person a woman who's really mal, he had a

daughter, or she's, and she's or her fear or her was to be to be far to her, forceosamently,

and, and, well, and, so, and, so, so, I think there's a justice

divina, a, I know, how the people, I want to do you, but that

was what what occurred and why I'm I'm to create in the Brugheria in the

sense that I know that exists. I know. So, I know. It's exactly.

Fiatte that's that's the same that we're saying we're the chapter 123 of your

podcast. Yeah, so, so, so, the precedent of the

the major part of the situations that have been

involved with grugated regularly are made because are

made and And, lamentablement is a person very very certain to you. And I,

when I'm in this side and I'm talking, this type of anecdotes and I'm okay,

I thought was the enemy or the bestine, that's, well, no, my friend, your

father, your your best your your your your but the

family. But the family, people, even when you were when you know,

even when you, that she was, he, he, his. So, for, for, for no, for not,

for not you're a one of the other a lot of them. If you're doing all these things that are practically horrible.

Look, I don't know a situation that has been to my mother. Okay. I'm I'm so much

that's, yeah, fagate that they're also, the subscribers, fiatte that my mother,

in their last time of life, was passed for a situation a little complicated.

Okay. If you you've commented in this capitual, of the his work, his curations.

As in as a way, as well, this is going to sonar. When my

mother was in his last time of the life, she was not really that

work of the but she me said, he said, he said, those many,

many peskos, there's magic never, magia in many words.

Then she I noticed that I noticed that also the methods of protection that

I used with the other persons to cure them with animals. In the last time, to her not he had no any animal,

any plant. All, all, all, was all was to do you, and when she was

the death, it was in an occasion that I was working in emergencies, in the cross-roja.

I gave a translade to Guadalajara. I was to go to my house, and in that

me said, and in mother's found very bad of health, that not

could feel a bad, then I see a good, in the unit

in the that I went to my house. When I went to my

house, my mother was totally dead and totally

mohated all his body. So, me it was very

strange and I asked, Mom, what you what you what

you What is what happens? To say, me I'm going to. I'm I'm going. If we

remember in the part that you have said the curation of this sir, that she was, that was a yeah, you

remember you the precedence there, that was that I'm well, well, so here he was connected with this

symptom of my mother, of that I was that she came about to her not they

were doing effects those, these curations that she had she had she had her with the animals

she had no he had been unfortunately in that day I'd well noche was almost night was

I was a whole the equipment of emergencies and when I went for the equipment my my mom

was found in the piece yeah not could not even even when I

came to she was I was I'm I'm because she was totally

desperated without when me I was when I Unfortunately, he could

survive with the treatments that I did in the house and we got to this hospital and we

said they had a problem of the heartone aneurism aortic this type of affection in the

heartons are some of the inflammations of the arteries where the paredes vascular

is they are very dilgatitas and they're like some those

globos that if they are of the sangras internally. So this is a situation grave, of sum importance,

of some gravity. From there we went to Guadalajara and they were to do a surgery to a heart-abirto to try to

try to save your life. When we were there, we talked about many things, including what is the work

that she gave to realize. And when she was talking with the medical. Imagine to my mother that's

at the other than the burghurgy and a cardiociruano specialist in ciruities so,

so, so man, man, of science. Exactly. The man of science. Doctor,

this is for the bourgeria. The doctor is the woman. Yeah, like, she's a

man. Yeah, yeah, she's, she, yeah. And he said,

Mama, tranquilla, for favor. When she went, when he said,

Ma, you you have a problem something that the doctor will talk, that will

try to try, no has nothing to do that's not to be with a and he said my

mom, a very my son, I want to investigate what's what were the

miracles the pap Juan Pablo 2nd miracles and one of the miracles

that cured was a he was a heartic a urtico no a neurism cerebral

okay the same inflammation of the paredes vascular, but in the head. The head.

So, this, no, there's form, no, no, no, no, no, medically possible. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's that's a part of,

for a miracle. So, so, so, for a incident. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm I foundre.

As as there are the miracles, exist in the malditions, exist in this

that we we're doing this we're doing, this is because I did a time and I me me

and they're they're so. No. That's what to me said. So, so

how can appear, it can disappear, depending of the energy. So I

made, I'm another thing that me Mark, when I was talking all this,

was that she said that she was going to go to get to the end of the She said. She said,

she was constantly and me and I said that was for the burglary. And fiatte,

that's curious, she said that when was a muchach when I was a

little in Salina Cruz, Oaxaca, she in a occasion was in

a mass, in a misa, in a Catholic. When was in this

capilla, just in front where she was she said she said they were men, she's just

in front of she. In the church. In the church. Yeah. That's

they were and so he was going to do that the temperature between them and they started and started

to get us to get us the rope. Wow. And in front of people. So,

so that she was, that she had all allteable to alludeous she was the only.

Like if she were the only that that was the situation. Yeah. I'll talk about it.

And then I said, mother, a little maybe you've got something, something, something said, no,

the devil me was about me was about that I'm trying that I'm trying. So, then I'ma, man,

you're not, man, you're saying, no, another bit, it's, but it's so it's

where we're where we're where we're there never I never and the only time that

he's a man a misa in that parroquia of Saguay was to the parroki

of the center and was a funeral if no my recall we we're

talking about a distance so much very considerable considerable and apart we're

in other city she she said that she was that's that's

that is that not that's that's normal obviously And this was in a parochia, or so, not is a

capilla, a place, a place a place where they're people that were

and they're and then they're toquetears and do get a lot of things in the church.

Wow. So, then she me said that she was destined for the devil.

Me, I'll repeat, one and another other once. When this

happened, so it was something something she said, she'd He said that no would be

to participate in a misa. But curiously when he was in a bed, he was

a little in the hospital. And they came to and they're offering the body of

Christ camera to the communion? The communion? Yes. And she she,

and she not was she could receive because never had done to say to the father.

I said, I don't I don't I don't take the the body of Christ

because I am I am I say you see the I'm sure I'm like the

car that he put the father does the he's he's going to

he so he says to be let me I'm I'm I'm

that's and that I repeat me what I say I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm this and I'm wait me

wait me wait me wait me wait me stop me me and he says,

So he said, I'm contando. So, then he continued talking, platicating,

my mom never, no, I've never had passed by no no,

but he because of the baptism. Okay, so. So, when he says,

the father, me says, my son, your mom has got to confessing with me. I said,

ah, how? How? Yeah. If, did you hear you he's talking

with me, so so he confessed with me, so he will take the

communion, and you was to to be your padrino. In that moment. In that same moment. Then,

then he gave the communion, and then my mother was crying. My mother was saying, that was that said, that's all that was said,

because my mother did things very bad. Sure. So, and, talking of things of

magic negative, yeah, we know, the magnitude, no? Exactly. They're

things very very, very, very, those, and it could say,

that there was his salvation. And, well, I could say about you could say about the question of a partecita of the brugheria that managed my

mother, that she was in frontically to see-mism for practicate all these things and also she could, she could survive.

But she was, she was culpable. One of my brothers, let's the the fault to the Santa Morte.

Okay. Because she she's always, if you you, to your recintos, his altars,

to the Santa Mewart for for to give to her the work so you

I'm a doubt the the fact of the fact that you know that's not exactly

you know what is the fact that I think I could be that I would be

that in brujeria the fact the the fact the the thing

how you let you the question is that the thing is all the thing is

that the that is that is that is that is And if it's Santa Mwerte,

if it's the God Lalo, if it's what you want to be demoniac. The

that you want you want to be not is acceptable. Okay. But at my point of view,

the bad is the Santa Morte. It's what you get to do with her

energy. And my mother what did to do it was a workes or

work's darks or she did end to me to be to

that form. But Figate how we have been been involved in those

things in form of something similar. And is that we know, we've got to us have talked to us to know this

well, this, I don't know, how you know, these practices because, I don't know this side where

we're we we're, that we're this, this, this, this, this to create

content, and to all the people, stories, but more than stories, I'll

say, anecdotas, because there are many people that have lived many

things that when connect I'm there's there's that you say that's that's what

that's my mom and we know we we know how is that the phenomenon

always has been present in many there are people that that live in

the phenomenon paranormal of different and talking of a little

a little for to the brujeria and I want this

anecdote that I've got it one but the fact that's of my favorite because it's

something that's a lot of because it's a person I'm a call a call and me

say Paco, I'm like your videos, I'm much how you're really

what I know what I happened because I'm I'm a normal but thanks

to this experience to say I can't I'm this person had a

work executive he went good good money had a

well, not a house property but was a bad pass the

bad at his man his his work for things

of the pandemic and his position economic because he

has to work to I always I did

and I know because I'm he he said he

he had a friend he had a good a beautiful

car and a beautiful relock, a beautiful a good woman, well, I mean I want

that's no. And my prim was a carmioner. Uh, well, I go,

if they're going to some madrisas. But they go very. But they go and so they're very

so much so I think that I put to armar. And yeah he's a old, he said, oh, my,

what on? We're saying, yeah, precisely so, so, only that the company

of the company of the job, each one should put your a carmion something

something but those are formats that we're with the new businesses for example Uber

so not precisely they're not exactly it's a new format the advantage is that if you put to

your carmion well you go much so so so you're

then I didn't I'm I'm I'm I'm to give to my friend

and he was I was he was to buy We started options and the market, so, the market, so, situations like, in the frontera,

well, they're always very much. So, they're in a part of the south of the country. No, I remember exactly the state, and they're going to the north. We're going to, where there were,

where they're, where they're, like, these markets or tangies of autos, and at a side, there a carmion. If we

we were in perfected state, was in perfect state, but when we the price, I said,

this is the signal because the price was ridiculously barat. And it's a person and me said,

it's so, like, no, I mean much interest in vendern us,

but I had the money, even, I had a little more. So,

all the papers of this vehicle were in the guanterer, factura, all was there into. And the person

made, me made a note, me made some a paperle very simple and me do you do you

do you get to get a cargament of the fact we we've been for Salina Cruz,

we've to Puebla of the state of Mexico, I had I my route trasada

but there was a extrano. He said that the first times that he started

that first time that someone was with him, like not he was only,

and he said it's a suggestion, but it's a one of the cargament of a material prima to Waxaca

to what the podcast that's not normal, know that sometimes the characters of Waxaca

are a little because and they are many things. He said he

he had some hours managing and just when when it came

when it comes to hear the I started to hear that in the caja they're to sound on various

glows, stas, like, like someone he's out of the and he's okay,

what is that that's there's so you can't so so that's so I can't

make a one side I'm to be a I'm sure, I'm there's there's

there's there there's he was he's he's he's A few of hours,

I'm listening Gullpies, but so it's very good, and when he gets a place where

you can stacionar, he said, I go back, I do the world, I'm going the and all the

and all all. All right. I remember that with the flash of the telephone seeing if

there was an animal something, no, there was nothing, all in the world,

all in order, nothing has had I'm a carmion

meters to get to another I'm I'm to hear but the

moment that I'm to hear the I'm a sensation of a scalofry

and he said I see I checka to the well in the sea

has a really a scalofry are very different he's he's he sentia

that he was he was he was he he gave very affected

and he said to his prima, hey, something has that

the carmion. And says, we'll go to go to get a cargament for the north,

we're going to ask, because this not is normal. They're to where they're a friend,

and say a woman that in the moment that was the carmone he said, you're

why you have you say, no, we've we've we've been so we

come back some because we have some have been some way and the

To start, that Camion was to have the Venta. Who's was a person so,

it was a person and I've had been I've been a few years or a time as and they

said, Cavalieros a disculpa that that is not the not is of us

not is the property of the state of the government of

the government that they're to because they don't they're

not where they're because so only Tso, Tried

if they were like two, three months, that was a little where a

lot of people who had been in the people trying to pass to the other

side. The the the carmion was in the carmion, not had

to put it and they didn't to get here. That the carion

not is the caro. In that moment if I felt

like a feel my because I didn't that

those those those the quadrown with the event they were the people who

were out of their people were still and they're incredible that history. Tremendor man I when I

did it and is that precisely no has not really something so I know I connect much with

this. And of that's the type of of migrants that fallies in these

in these containers are many are many are many of these

events Demasiana, brother. Yes. Fiatte that I'm going to tell a story short of very similar that has to be with, no,

no, with camioneros, but so with phantasmas. Well, there's a lot of phantasasas too. See,

that when I was I was a adolescent, I was between 14 and 16 years, well, for that age, I was in a

secondaria, in the last time in the secondaria, and in those times I was

reclued in a seminary, I was in preparation can say basic for the sacerdocio. Oh, you know, so is the sacerdot? Well, imagineate. The Father Jesus of Nazareth. Oh, yeah, is true, so is

so, so. That's curious. That's curious. But, well, fiatte that in those times, in this seminary that I was in the seminary of the seminary of LATO, the Sagada family, is of my same city. So, to all those who were participants of this

seminary, we had to go to school. When we were in this preparation of the secondary, only were three of the secondary. And the rest were like 50 students of preparatory. But the schools that were at distances distinct. So, then we're, the, the routine in the seminary was that you

had to get at a certain hour and you had to go to a misa or you had to do the rosario, to to rest to Rosario. But we're for the reason that we're We were very very far away and we were coming and we

not we didn't get a time. So, or not we'd have time or we to get us

to the school. Yeah. A me was to put into the focus on a idea.

To me I mean, to say to our encargated to the father Abraham, that I'm

that I'm that's a that if I had to restar the rosario with my people in

the way to the school in the seminary and we're going to do not participate

of the misa or of the rosario. And me, and then is that then, no, is that they're going to go, I'm going to do I'm in cargo, I'm in charge directly. He said, well, I'm going to

confiard on you. Then, then we're going to us. Then we're going to directly to the school and we passed about the part tracerer of the cemetery. So, imagine to three muchichos

caminandot. For all the country, Father, that's in the the sky, you're identified.

Many many people say, oh, this is, what on that's weird.

Yes, yes. Yes. So, the young of second yeah.

So, so we don't know about of three months. Curiously when we

got to the lethania with the ruga for us. How is the

Arca of the alliance? Yeah, all these these, the letania.

Yeah. Well, we were just when we get us to this part. In one occasion, we said, we'd say,

we'd be able to the almas, that not are in peace, and signall we're to see a cemetery. So, all normal, but as the three days

of that we've to say, Ruega for them also, we're going on there, imagineate. We were

going to and my two companionsions my side. I'm dirgiento and when we we're going to the middle of the cemetery,

it would say the part tracer at the cemetery. He makes it a matter that the cemetery had a barda chiquitita, we'd almost to

the pecho. Yeah. And that a chilangito precisely to a friend Ismael he, he said a

groseeria and he says, whey, what is that? What is that? He's so, he? So,

I'll and see that a a man with a rebozo is like a half

the morning in the the cemetery and all and all and it's very rare so I'm

so I'm I'm trying to give you don't you're not a look at look at

how are in the bards yeah any whatever's to be to be

to someone a man a man a man a man a family and

You repito, barda here. Yeah. In the time, we go, for that you see, a little more, it's fresh, the cement of the, of the, of the,

of the, of the, of the, the, of the, of the, the other, well, we're a little, we're going on the day normal. When we were

to go back to the school, I never had a cemetery, that time, me passed with them, we passed with

the cemetery, I, I don't know the cemetery, when we when we we're that

we're from from the cemetery the barbara not here was to that was to

be a bed from the barda from from it's very very chiquita but from it's

down it's back it was very much very great so that

the woman was was floating was was floating was and

was floating and curious the gabetta where was the I was there I was there the perspective of the

way I'm like if it was the second gabetta and not was the second

was the quarter and and curiously was it was with cement fresh

of this here is a fulano that that he felles that

day and had failed a person two days before so

so in that occasion it was the only the only the

only occasion in the that I I can confirm that I've passed for a situation that

has to be with a phantasmas and you think you think it was a phantasm or was the

murder? No, I think I want think that was the spirit of someone

that was that was that he was razzing to this person that was recently

recently fallaced and is that it's that I'm I think I've

been I've been I've been to have been with some people in the city of the city.

And is that, I, I, I don't is that you encounter with the paranormal of front, but if you do you look, you know, certain questions that are you around, the time that we were, we're going to

talk to so rapidly, we're going to, because they're going to, me to participate with them, I said, well, the rarrow is that they've got in the Spirit Box, which is the radio with frequencies, for

to be able to capture in the sound of black, then a message of the more so they then they're and they're

asking there's here how you you know but from we're we're

we're the spearbox said a negative no goy no so like

we're we're not we're we're we're the the apparate that is

it's like a grabator it's a radio it's a radio that emits

a sound the called sonido black has frequency the creanities

the creancies is that in this the real of an entity can be

communicate and then a on a frequency that can capture the sound

and you can't hear it so it's that the apat say are not

so are some messages that you that now so that

now so can say could say can be the

are the psychophonies would be psychophonia, exactly, but in the Rhythmo it's a sound. So, then

it's a radio, it's, so, at the radio, only is the sound, and in that in that sound,

so, in this, sound, they're in, words, that is the message. So, that was,

they're, words of, Bette, no, no, we're not, we're, so, that

they, that they, that we're, that, and, and, and, precisely,

it's curious because they were transmitting in vivo I was I was grabbing with my camera

and we do a recurried and they're and they're on Facebook revisan the telephone

never transmitted the the the live never and I don't

and I revisit the archives of my camera and also archives that

that that I'm that I'm I'm so I'm curious

because the response of the radio was and no is no and no no no not so not they're not so neither

exactly the only that I got to get upta was that I was going to show in history to Instagram that they were that's all that's all right

that's all right what we got we're doing yeah no we're going and they're a kinet the kinet

the yeah so yeah yeah yeah it's of a box no see connected to a computer

the kinet what does is that where where it's where he's where he's a person, he

a little, then the Kinnert put in the nothing, it's

because the sensor of the camera is so that's so. Well, the Kinnett

no hallo and they had two batteries, too. Yeah, we've got we're

we're going to the morgue, the amphitheatro was at a little we're going to be.

As to us, we're going we're about 50 meters to get the

olor. A putrefaction For those who know Those who get in there Not are those who are They're not those who are Those who are Those who are

They're really Very destroyed Destroats, Horrible Those are those To get in the morgue That part of the Amphitheatrous

Because No. It's not Causts of them We're almost We're getting Theolour A man

It's an It's an Allerer To put us To taparse the rostro. And he said, well, we're going to get.

We'll know and the allure intense. It's fresh. Colchas recin fresquesques t'nached. You know,

you know, you know, there is a Prenn and when they're to puttons to the planches,

quantity of things that's, so the Kinet detects, or that TTIs,

he's, he, all these siluettas. And and, and I'm a woman

a lady, the lady, that's the that's what they're going that's what I'm not in the panteon.

It was in the morgue. We were impacted, because I did I cance to grab in stories of

Instagram how they were they were in the fashas, the people. So,

the kinet was the silueta. That's all the way. Firtisely it. Fivate that is

curious of the questions of the technology, of what are the batteries, what are the articles that are very frequent, that are you going to fallar where there's this type of energies. And, you think that I have

an experience very similar to that. When I was in the preparatoria, I never have been of exploration urban. Only... You're going to... You're going to go. Yeah, yeah. We're going to go.

Yeah. I'm going to go. But in the preparatory surged a project of elaboration, elaboration of pages web. So, every one had to choose your, so,

uh, uh, um, many were people, they're commerciants of Guarach, that's the, that's all right. Yeah.

I said, the maestra, I'm an investigator paranormal. And, and me, and then, well,

how you're going to do that's something that's it's a thing that's you know, you can't get an information of nobody.

I go, I'm going to look to find my information. So, the equipes are

of three imagineate how they were interested my people who did a group like a

question of normal yeah yeah they're they're doing they're they're

they're they're they're so interested too those professors that they made

an office in which me facilitated any or in the they're in the type of

for me because you're at the more exactly oh yeah you know you guys

notice the not wait for that to let you I want a I'm a

salo to the professor Sapien that was the encargated of that me

they're me they're they're they're to go to go to do two

places one one me that everyone was a noria

where a a little after after after to

after so that's so so for that so

that not that didn't she didn't the nor was

there a few rathes. Yes. So, it was very tragic that murder. So, so the group

we got to see cameras, that luses, that cameras of photos and we were in a car, all the

partedas. Yeah, the auto sardina, so. So, so imagineate how they were

interested in those menaces, that two of the other of the menaries, I,

for those times, I don't never in the seminar. And, and they

are, no, is that, you're they're in the seminary. Secap

They were not going to the seminary. Yeah. So, they were on a arbor. We passed for them and they were

when we when we didn't not the lamps, and the cameras and the camera's

and I and the muchacho, they're so so so, mark it,

not the battery. And they're and they're and I'm what, what happened? So, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Curiously the only that was a cameraita a chiquita

a handicam if you're that's only for photographs. And only we're doing photos

with flash. So one of the friends, yeah, when we had been done

the photos, so so I said, Nazette, pressame the camera.

I go so, I go, and I went, and it went to the

Noria. The Noria, not had Barda, eh, I

went to the Noria and we gotrams. What are you? To do you? Yeah, yeah, it was to do you.

Yeah, so I'm going to some photos. Rodeo the Noria, but now now we're seeing, we're going to take some photos

to some maisales. So, all there, we got, we're going to go to be photos or videos

that day. Yeah, because we were to be a lot. Yeah, yeah, when it's

when it's when it's when we we went in the car to the other place we were to investigate. Ah. When we went to the center of the city,

it'sened you. The lightas, the cameras of video, all. And when we got this to this place to this place, it's very interesting.

You're going to invite to that you go to this place. It was a place of the revolution Christa. There are many

many places. There are many places and even I'd I'd rather say that there's rest of human there.

And we're to this area and the person that me gave there, that's called Juan Jesus and Barr,

that in peace, I'm, we said that was the place was very special. So,

the Vibra, it was a special. I took the bad decision to say to the camera,

to be to be in front of the camera and to make me, to say, if

we're in this place we're we're I've I've got to go to

start to say the seminary we're we're to read a rosario

for them but the what he's for how time no I'm

no I'm so so when when we we're when we

we're very very and when we're to start the man

for to start the thing the so like you say

are things are different. The frio and the scalo frio and you passable with the cameras of video and he's put, they'd like the zoom and then they were just

they were just having a person because some have that function. So, it was enfocabing and desenfocated in certain areas, seeing that no had any person. So, for to start, that was very interesting. So, they'd hear

grittos, I'd listen a lot of things. When we're We've determined, according us, to do the investigation. I said,

we're going to find us nothing, but we're going to do you. When we're we're going to us,

ahead of those arvoles of sapotes, because they're some arvors of the sapotees. Let's come to

take us a photo. Then the that's the place, the person is the person, you're in an encargated you in the

middle. Okay. I'm and when we're going to take the first photo and all normal.

take the second photo and I feel that they pass in a man for all the spalda a man eladissima

in that in that moment that's to start to the sensation and not

they were doing video in that moment only the photographs so then a

so that is a grab what happened what was what was Nazarette

and someone he took the the and we we just

we we didn't we started voices, and they'd and they'd be in

somebers but nothing out of the normal I said I'm a more is normal clear.

Fiatte that's what you all the eight months or a year that I had all the photographs

and that I was I didn't see that I didn't have cut out of guard and you

have to count that one of my compadres me says you you know

I'm that I found something I'm something Yes, see, look, figgat in the sombra that generates the flash,

generates sombras with the of the arboles of Zapote's. Yes. And, it was a car of the double of the mia that's right and with a man, with a man,

delgidim, and like with three dead. So, so in my the head. So, so, I'm kept, no, no, no, no, no, freeges.

Oh, yeah, no, I'm, no, I'm, I'm scared, I was scared, me, us to you because I said no, how how is possible?

The curious is that in that that was, that was, that was a proof, it was a proof of that is that. What is that? What is? They're playing?

The spirit of out of the world. But they're so, they're not? So, I'm spanned because that in the photographs. But that's not was the worst.

My companions are those who were the people who were to make this promise of that that we're going to we're going to

we're going to the night I'm going to rest the rosario for those almas but always that I'm put to restar

as a point that they were those perritos santo those mios like the of the of the

people to all you but at the eight of the night. Okay. So, so it's an

a disaster there of the ruido nobody was calli and when I was to run

the rosario all normal and so I me I've, like, for a month. When I spoke with my seminars,

I said, O'gan, it's going to this in my house. And, and they're they're

a cabron. In the seminary, we're going to the same. I mean, then I said, no, you know,

I don't want to. Sure. We're going to talk with the father. So, so we're them,

he gave his soquet to them and also to me. Because they because they were they're they're

It's true that's escaped. So, so they gave those sockets and us said, that's what they did was bad. Because, well, because they're still perpetuating. Even as, not they're not staying, even they're in their osomentas

there. We're going to do a misa for them and after there we're going to do. So, curiously, he celebrated a misa for that,

with that intention, not precisely in a domino. And, a part of that moment, all he calmed. Wow.

It's that's curious when you're seeing, without without because we did it's like

very all-a-venton to see, to be, to be, and that's, and that's, and that you've been

that's the people, with the, with the little bit, no, so, are situations,

I mean, the fact of when we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

you know, you, you know, you know, you, the bruchos, the bruch major of Catemaco,

and basically to all the calremas the more, man, that's, the more more powerful

of the world, is, you have to have much care. If you go to get to

do you, you're going to have to do you know, you have been really

very, very affected. So, so, there have been cases of people that can

can't to be to be a person, if you you're in a

when you get, even to develop a long long-plast a question

medical. It's very complicated. You have been very careful. I don't see if you

have seen about that that's in those terms, no. In reality to what you

do you do you do you do you know the time we're that we're that we

have been to be at the energy of the situation. Exactly. If you

you are energetically you're the blank perfect. If you're playing wheeha and you're not,

you can't terminate possegid, exactly. A position that's a other thing, or so, a, no, are, so, are, so,

are, so, is, to use books of bruheria. That's, using, know,

to use, things without know, and the making, the fact, of Elas Samuel, that was one of

the cases that was, I like, to mention it, because it's the clear example of what you do you

do you have to do, the child that's I was sentia attracted by the paranormal, that's that's

a book of burglary in basares. I don't know in a moment in I've seen. I've

heard of which he has invocations and also does what is the evocation and he starts to

experimenter and after that he was rascandole rascandole to the tiger and he starts, what you think

to live it paranormal in his car launching videos, piding some some brucho

if there a pastor if there someone that but, but while he was

he had episodes of possession. Fertisim. Much of people not want to see those

videos. Because he had a uniforme of security and he was doing, and he was

a, a time. Ataques a case. A good. So, a case very

interesting, Paco. Well, I think that we have been to this chapter

to the real friend, I'm I'm I thank much

for apadrinar this first chapter of More than the MED Martinez.

What's the name of blasphemy, no. Oh, yeah, don't mean, you know, I'm saying, I'm going to say,

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