Más allá del miedo Podcast - 05 | Por GOLPEAR un CRISTO en un RITUAL mi tía PERDIO LA VIDA

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

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My mom, when I had 10 years. I, where I was... Yeah. I was... I was heard of her. Every time that I was... I heard of her. I mean, you're saying,

Oh, you're doing? You're doing? My son, me they said, of your tia. He had the idea to give a whole her to some person that was needed to

a person that necessarily. A man... A man... ...hegiot, saying, oh, Gerardo, Mary me said that came here

a lot of and he said, he said, me said, me said Mary that came here and he said, oh,

my wife has been two years of a fallacy. A lot of we're just we're in what is

accidents, atropellated, you want to live the experience, no, is that the bad

to someone, to pay them to the cross. To pegged to the cross, to work, to turn to the telephones. Passed 10 minutes.

Contested I was the call. Well, what was Roja Mexican, delegation Cordone? That we can't help? You're Roderigo? I, yes. What happened? I'm, what? What happened? No, well, your Tere, she put a mal. It had to have an infarct. It was a canalize. All right,

I'm sorry, and welcome, Samant's of the Disconocino to a new chapter of MESAGA with Jesus of Nazareth. In this occasion, from the Riviera Maya, me a person

that I know from a few years and that unfortunately me I'm going to you know

I'm a interesting. In this occasion, me my friend Rodrigo Miranda.

How you're a good. All right. Well, yes. So, yes, we

did the occasion. Yeah. We're doing again. We're doing the new. Govehance. No,

no, the gastrader there there. Well, in this occasion, a man, we're

to talk about a little about a lot of a question

principal. You crees in the thing supernatural in the paranormal?

I'm that's a thing very I think we think we all

we're we different is a thing for some for some

a thing mythi a mythic and And more, a little less focused on something

centered on in, in, in things of chamanes and all of that. I mean, I'm, so, I'm,

so, there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, all that, so, so,

so, for me, are normal, no, because, because, well, in the

long, I've, in the time, you know, you know, that, in this

of the attention pro-spitalaria or the ser paramedico well, there are many cases, not?

A lot of a lot of they're able and a sometimes they say, no, well,

this, how is that you're that's, no? I don't think or, or,

yeah, every depends of the, the, the, the, if,

if, if, if, if, they're, they're, they're they're talking

like a lot, no, exactly, but, you, that it, you that you, that

you know, are things difficult. A sometimes are things that, not you you know, and a lot you say, oh, yeah. No, it's possible, but only being it. So, then, in many words,

if you're, I think. I think so. Okay. You, in a occasion, has passed by some situation supernatural? Well, yes, I mean, I've have been passed things

very, very, very, really, in, in, in, in,

in the person. Okay. When I had 10 years, uh, then,

this, uh, when I had a year, so when I had a 10 years.

So, uh, you're, you know, you're not reasonable, no, no,

you'd not, you'd be that so, yeah, so, so,

so, So, Fiat that me pass away the that I

heard of my mom I mean, where I was, I was I was every

that I was where she was she, it was in my house,

well, in the house of my there, I, I, I,

I, practically almost all the life, because my abuel fellesio,

and there was a problem family, and we we went to the house where I, this,

I, uh, so, then the her mother of my mom, us had the door to see,

we, just, I, when I, my mom had fellesio for a new mother

a cirrhosis that he complicated much. So, when I had, no,

I don't see, 17, 16. Uh-huh. I... I... ...dormia in the part of the mother

fellacy in a quarter of the second piece of the house of my my aunt. So, I, when

passed by that I was a court, or one of two, or me to have a scalo, or a real, but

not were seven days consecutive. I mean, it was a certain day, no? Okay,

it was a form a lot Uh-huh. No, so you'd like, like, you know, like, on the Monday, no,

it's not, so, so, like, in March me passable and until July,

things like. Okay. So, when I perceived those, those things or, or,

or, that situation, well, I put, well, so, I'd be, and

know, I'd, I'd, I'd say, oh, hey, well, this,

you, you're well. So, so, are things that I don't

because I don't I don't know, now, now I'm so, so,

but now, so, I don't like, I said, because in first, as I

did you, you know, you get to come to do you, and the only that the only

that's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, my, my, my, my, my, ,

I think I'm this. And she said, you also. Ah, too, I'm also. Yeah. And a

sometimes she said that were things that were like, you know, you know, I was going to go to

go to and if was a person, or, or she had a friend, or her

his wife he was in the job and no I know, or to this,

um, he, he started to feel like and, well, and was,

it was, I mean, he said, I mean, I said, I was to know, I was

about, the so, uh, uh, to her to her to her

in my part, it was it was, or I'm know, but what,

you're, you're, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, how, um,

this, oh, um, were, there were three words that I

heard of a voice of her so that was a so that he was

that's through that I did I did it I was so that I

know you know you know you know I'm with someone

or so with those that how how can say with

a chaman no no the that they curate the spant oh

with a santa a a blah, ha, well. So, then we were a known-of-it-a-lawed, and yeah me, made a limpia, the

woman, she knew, it's, she knew, it's, no, it's what, what is that, like, what you're just, you know, you're not you, not you're not, you're not the pen of your mom. So, she, the Psalms, they're like, like, um,

how, me said, penando, uh, yeah, with the As a result pendient. So, she's with that pendient

your. So, not she doesn't. You know, the desperated, no.

And, so, was, for me something, like, like, so,

if, had been going to be a person, I've always, I've

found, and always, to be the person, that me, I'm, yeah, grand,

me pego, the mom, and the cur and all, the idea, in the way that it's a

really, when I remember of her, when it's 10th of May, when it's

your birthday, when it's when when he felleceo. It's something a

day very difficult for me, no, not, so like you say, a day

normal, like, before, before that I'm listening the audio, I was

okay, I mean, like, you know, like you have so familiarized with

start to be listening, that you feel like you feel like you're because, for what

what he said the, the, the, is the she, but a part of the

limp, a part of that, he did some and a part of that he said,

you know, you know, know, go to the panteon, and rezale, dilate that you

like you want, so, you know, then you deje, yeah. And,

I, went to to the Pantion, the REC, I remember that I was with my Tia and with her his wife. And yeah, just I felt like an alibi, a

like, like, as I said, you know, like, you know, like, you know, there's that there's a piece of here in the head. That's a kid. I feel very, very, very

relaxed. A part of there, those days that, you know, it was the day of 10 May or feces significant. Or, the day of his death,

it's, for me, it's a lot, I mean, me, me, me, me, me,

me, me, that's, so, so, I think, is, is,

is, is, is, is, something, very, how, so,

how's, the, the word, mysterious, no, no, no, so,

is something, inexplicable, end- And, and let's that that's that's

you know, and other thing that me that's that I'm going to

I'm, you know, I'm, I'm going to I'm here, and then it's not

it has been, it has been so you think you will do something?

No, the moment. Ah, a, a, the Javu. Ah,

the del, the the movie. Yeah, the In fact, if

for me is common, that type of situations of that I don't see, of a

way, you're doing doing a time, you're doing a certain a

song and you're you're a lastim's a or something and when

you're trying to to stoppeas that and to try to to get

to get to the oh, oh, like I'm like

I'm so it's it's like inexplicable, the way in that in that's exactly

exactly the way, it's exactly the same, you're saying, you know, you're saying, that's about an explanation.

Exactly. No, no, no, it's, I, I've, not seen a

news that says, you know, you know, for this are the day-bos, for this,

for this, for this, one is a problem, it's this, is this, so, so,

so, so, if there, the, the, the, the, mysteryioso,

the the supernatural natural. So, so, no, but

very, very commovedora, more than the story that you have been to

tell you to come to your mother, is a something is a one,

that was a one, that's very, for a for a little

totally. So, is that it's that also, it's that I, I,

I, I don't, no, I did, I, not it, was, it was,

I was a belorio and I was a little something, not, and like I, this,

when I was, when I was always, with, how's called, I'm, I'm, a pegged to,

not a, not a, to me, a, okay. So, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, then, then, then,

yeah, when, when, when, when, when, past the time,

I think I'm going to I need that part of you know what and I'm going to be this year to give a time to give to that to tell

things very privates that I was of the adolescence so so so so I'm so I think

that part that part of that that's in the the thing and all that

like you like you libero mm-hmm And, of actually, look, no

it has got to have been to fall my Tia. It's exactly the day of

the paramedic as I Oh, okay. So, I went two two months before I

went to and I said, I'm going to my spouse, you know, I'm going,

you're yeah, I'm, this, and, he got, of the mother,

I think, that's, I think that's a new hereditary. So, I'm

going to give to give to his his birthday and she always

said that when she wanted she wanted she was a that

were in his birthday that was a family and yeah

with that was that and fallacy in her no

it was her whole my family all to

all to his house very very happy very content all the days

earlier was in the day was like he was he was he was he was

he was sitting and he but the sembrant was another other passing

his his birthday year for for us for us for us normal

that was normal that was not Dormida completely All the day For she

For she can't He was He was Ablando And So he said To say to My prima

You know It's normal Degal So So it was A Saturday Domingo Let's

So Yeah I'm So I'm With I'm I'm To know

M Start with Start Mental Altered So No reaction.

Then you said, you know, you know, that's okay, it's a yeah,

we're we're regressed, she's still interned. And I know, this,

no, I said, I said, I, me, me sincere, you know, you know,

I think, that, as, as, she, just, he, and,

and just, some, are, some days, what yeah, Yeah, we've

been in the in the in the security. But you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, let's the house. Getal the care of where

is, and that's where, and yeah. Well, it was a so, so it's

so it was, yeah, yeah, and then, and, so, yeah,

this, well, I'm, yeah working, yeah, and I'm said,

okay, so, then, then, then, then, so, then

in the In the Caj of the canes there's a case

has a picture of some the so so so yeah

yeah they they got to the house they

put they bought a niche where she she

she then then they got there there and

my my prima me says my what and me a video

and it was a colibri in her salon she is a master yeah in Veracru

so she has her her school in a place in a

city of the municipality of so so I said that was

so her students students students were in education

in education and she she she was doing a documentation

no I don't know. But, but he met him a colivir and and he

didn't do it not. There's all the day. practically the

whole the day. And me is my mom. Concidio with the niche or

the caja that they had the colivis. Uh, so I know who

no, I think she, I know I don't know I'm no, I

was, it's all yeah, you're in house, yeah, he's not but never

he put attention to the car, so, after that I'm said, I'm

that I'm that I have the video, I, I, I can't see,

I, the, the colivist to be, so, then, says, is that I

was, I, I, I, I, I'm said, I,

I, so, he's in that that's so, So, I think

I went to see the and I knew I knew she knew she said a pass Yeah

I'm I'm saying that she was there that she was there was a and she

was her couple years almost and two days two days for his couple years no

that's so impressive yeah I think I think sincerely I think so I'm

well then then So, she, for that part, a me reagania that's, I mean,

I'm a tattoo, and that's, so, then a day, like, a, like, the

time, he says, and, and he made that tattoo a , a colibri.

So, so, so, so, so, so, those, those things,

for the, for the , for the , the, the, the, the,

, Of burlars to, to take it in serious. Exactly. Figate, precisely, no has much

of this that I'm to talk to you're going to my old my Trio, my Trio, his wife

was a last two years approximately. And, and you have like three testimonials of persons

that say that they're that's a person, that fellesio. And you know, because he

was up by the medium of him because he he was working in camions and in a occasion me in the parade of camions I was waiting to this all the persons that's up in the service. So,

then I said, I go, ven, come. I go with him and he says, you know, what happened? One of our one of his colleagues that were taxists, me, me, I'm,

I said that they were to see that my papa. My papa yeah, felliecio, but that he was with and taxi imagineate so yeah so they're

what on he said pepe peter riumas pepe what's okay here's

here waiting here waiting so taking his coffee with his cigar

and with the taxi complete so so that experience so I said

I said I said I remember the experience that me had said

I'm my said my my son me just you idea of regal all her roba to

some person that would some person that need to that then a woman he went to

directly to my tio saying hey Gerard Mary his his

wife valecida Mary me said that came for a roba

imagine and he he said how he said if said she said

me he said me said oh my but my husband has

two years of fally a man the the man of the

man imagineate no way and even a so he he gave the real he he's a

thing he's he's he's a other situation that I mean me passed directly that has

to be with my tia is that I'm a house of some I'm

and I visit I there and a one of a one a man

that's a she is a she he's you're all you all

well well with exception of my tio, Gerardo, then that she died so

her spouse still still and is depressed. Almost that's me desmaged the

lady, no, well, how is possible if I I'm I'm just I'm

imagine you. Yeah, she said, no, she has time that she fell no,

I saw I'm said, me said, he was to for for her work,

and he said, no, she she she yeah fallacy

imagine it she made not not equal but something to be

similar to your where you did you do you are

situations I know I think I know it's like

very not it's rare it's strange but some

things that so so so I think so when you're

when you're when you're a pasted has passed for a lot of to be as a supervisor

of security Okay But in the OVA PASA Yeah Okay In the river

In the Riviera Well in the Riviera It's very common That are They're They're

Yeah Of Yeah Yeah Well, yeah That's They're

They're Yeah Yeah That's The Colado That Yeah

So Or E Or E Yeah Yeah the bomb with the cement, that the cement is the mal. Yeah.

And, and, they've been, this, I know, well, here where I'm, yeah,

they're doing a alberka. So, so, so, the, the, the,

the, what, the, what type of cement, yeah, they, they'd

all the, the, the conduct to where where it's to get the

cement to all the and just the just no more the

bomb satur the cement in all the tubery yeah so

yeah so yeah so not he not he he

was all he all all all just just just

there in the oboe what What they're doing then, this, uh, a part of

the 6, so it's the time, the time, so they're to do the time.

So, the extension was a colded normal and with a cabado is to even,

it's, to, depending depending on the meter, and what meters quaddals

are going to collar and all. So, then it was a contemplation so. well as

it's they didn't go to the morning and not he had never had

or so it was so it was so they were to get and they did it

and they they were they they were and and as the

spectators it was the thing that we were the we

we're to for to do let us let's some they

are they're mental or the nature that are characteristics in the

culture Maya. So, so it says that if not they put in their recintos,

if not they're their their if not they're with respect so

there's things and at this case, they're they're going to

learn to learn the over. Yes, totally because all

the resident the cabo you not they know what to do.

Yeah. They were desperated Yeah. All all of six, regressersers

at the eight of the morning to go to and they're not they're so. And so,

and so, yeah. And, and, this, well, I, seeing the

situation, I said, oh, and, why not they put in a carita?

A who? No, well, the saloches? And, I said, Yeah,

I said, put them a friend, a house- that, that they do you do the

carpenters that are a carpintero that's, and he will be, going to do that

your alverca no, that's like that constructor are like the

meros are Spanish so, so, so, so, don't care in

those things much here. Yes, they get with the idea of, we're going to build, we'll have to be in a time, no problem. Yes,

and no they're in case, and it was going to happen the same. It was, the bomb with the cement, or the other times the machine and the tubery,

I don't know what, what happened. Yes. No, I'd get to the cement well, it was there. It was so,

that's curious. Fickate, what curious. Fidate, I mean, I imagined because maybe

me you know about it but I'm in imagine that so. So, yeah,

like at the two hours, yeah, I've that they're marking me,

oh, that there was a house here, I said, I said, I said,

at the end of the obar and they're to run. So, other of the

things, and they were also they're saying they're back to the

alberca, did a ritual Maya and they compared chuchery or so

they're so, Duleses Yeah so then they they're in the

house and they're doing the rest and they could construct now

so all right everything they're done in the collado and so

so he's no it's how is how is possible that we

did we did we did we did we we're so if

it, well, I, I that I've lived, I go, if it's sure. Sure. So, it was very evident that

there were many problems for no. And also, the explanation of this is that also are

recintos, or where they're constructing, so they're recintos so if no,

if you know, you know, so, you know, so, they're doing to dovesue. So, for

example, you, did the concert that he took the Tonjohn in the zone of the pyramids, um, so a scene area enormous, very grand,

it's a call on totally. So, so many people put in there, that's for fault to respect to the gods, but many others say, no, that was because no, that's for they they didn't permit to

the salutes. Yeah, it's that was congeyvado, no? Yeah, I go, there is a little the Maya

So I think the Aluchas are like something something something I don't

see I think I'm very respectable the the mythology of

of his culture but I'm just that the saluchas is a

part of that part of that of that the of the so

so if you see that they they were very, very arraged

it was very part of them, because also there's many many stories of the old

old mayas that are very impressive. Fygette, I'll to tell you want to be a lot of

the salutes. Yeah, I said, I said, I'll say, I'm going to say there's a

chapter, but I know that you know, that you know, you know, you're going to

you're going. When we revisable the company in the we're you know,

you You remember what we We always that We received a unit? So, it was every detail That the Yantas,

that the Yantas, that the GOLPS, that the leveles, a thing totally stricta.

Because we did we We did notation for an Anotation. Yeah, it was a rigorous. Very rigorous.

Well, well, in one occasion me took to go to an unidad of the

goodos basic, these peanitas that was in those that I almost

always I always always that that's it's a time to start in the trebol

where is the point of the airport because they were the unities

that are in the porto more and close here to the hoteler that it

was the the moon palace exactly exactly there there was

there and then put on the point middle that was in the prevol

in that that very many many I took there

so so I I I A, the mythic. Yes. That's re-obitored,

Segon. So, I don't I remember who more was in an ambulance. And I

said, I don't know why they put you there's a storebo there. Why? Why are

that the people who are to go to the airport, well, has to get to

the caril of media to get to make to the airport. It's

a storm. And in that's you know, say, say, say the things with more

respect is a recinto of the salushes ah no well I know

I don't know I'm saying ah my see that are this and that

I'm well even even so I said for me it's

a store so well I did do some

services and I took to move to the

base of Purt More L we we we

got to that that Pueros and that it's a lot of

a lot of the motor much umo I'm now what what I'm that I'm

the coffre and a tiradera of the but barbara so when

so I reported you know my unit is that my unit is trying to

the mechanics and they're and me they're and I say

what what's what happened there was the bayonet out of there was the bayonet and then was he made

the tirad of the and then you know you know they're they're they're

they're to be they're to say you goy but I said I did very well I was

not the first first first yeah so it's your and I said my

you're your well your well you're no is that

I was that I had a rato here. So, I mean, I've been to have been to a year. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, then I saw how was the role, how was it was

to have a little. Even, you know, when we talked about paramedics, medicament, for medication,

and all. But here was to revise absolutely all, and well, and yeah, and here

was that when me, I was talking about the recinto of the saloches, me got

the bayoneta. It was a badusura Well, you I think that that's so I think

yeah, I think, I still I'm and I'm so, coincidio, coincid with that event.

Yeah, could be so, no. The fact, you've commented, that the

Colosio, that came in the carmion, I said, oh, look, what feregone,

they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're doing that, that's,

that venita, and you you're just that were a, right, a one

a Bostado. Well, the one of the one of the in, in the

lot of the America. Yeah, in the area of the area, there's, there's,

because, you know, I'm going to go to work with them, no, you're going to do you, not to do you

do anything, because if you're, If you're a stut-tito. Yeah. No, me, it's a little. No.

I'm going to cobrer the motor. A motor new. But, well, apart of all this, has been a little other experience? Or, there you had been about of a company that also we have been to call

to a building, to someone, for that, an, what was when someone was in the

night like that there was not even didn't even they're there there too

they're not they're they're or they or they were they're they're

they're not any no reason or at no more I think there

there but they they were because it was there another thing and they

they're okay so then then a From there,

then, the companies that were to say, is that, you know, you

heard of I was I used to the third piece, and me they were a marty

or me have been some, these, some, some, it's,

and I don't my thing, my instrument, my my

thing, and I And I was in the 8th when I came Oh, yeah, so you know, yeah, so, that's, I mean, that's, I mean, I kept, because, this, it was, this, it was a callah, very complicated, or, they're

that we'd have, like, for, so, so, so, so, did something, so, so, said, I was, so, so, yeah, fallia about. So, that time, this, this, um, one of the security, us

you know, you know, I'm saying something. And then he was a a

person who black, palid so, the light of there was a

very, very very so it was that I'm, is that I'm,

I passed for the the piernas. Ah, I, sent you

something that's on the you're no, you're you? No,

you're not you're to to be to be and they're like 12

at 1 of the night 2 1 of the morning the collado

term he about 3 of the morning 2 the

morning and no says no well I see I

I saw I I was I look how I'm and

he and he those the the the and

you do ta And I And I Those We're gonna There are

There are There are No You're They're All right Who's Who's

Who's Who's And Man Yeah Like In the So

The Of the Of A company Partrimonial Of Yeah They're

Marca One Ohie You See You So that You're

You're You They're They're One Of time there. Yeah.

Pongle a Dulele a Dulele. He's a He's a put them and he he's going to

give to give him. Yeah do you say, for that you know to let's

like, as you can say you can't say you're saying, yeah for that

yeah, yeah and then they're no, then I don't don't,

no, no, don't try nothing. So, then then I go to my

my my my my t' a a a

way to the place in the peninsula a shishito is a like

the what that's the last the okay the

pilon the pylon uh mick me me go,

you know, a chichito said the man, what that's a little a restant

like. So, then I put it there's there, let's let's

see, you know, you know, there's no, no, and we said,

and we're we're we're there, no, there was nothing, the other day,

this, this, we're we're so, we're, so, and,

And, as, come other workers, because in the office there's a good of,

there's, yeah, it's rumored, you know, chisbe, no? Sure. So, yeah,

no, it's true, me to me to pass this. And, and they, they're,

they're, they're, they're, so, you know, to be to be to be able

to, you know, that, yeah, yeah, it's, and, they're,

they're, how, how, how, how pitigar that, So, so. So, I

then I came with that I'm new, and in this oboeia that's new,

then I said said, do you, praysen let in an altar, compel

something, and so they'll let's and so it's after the after the

thing, the rest and all, and all, all, they're they're they,

they're and they have been done Terminal. Fiatty, this, this, Saul,

not is very credent of these things. But he's that one a campando, no,

no, they did travesurasur or nothing. But you have to count to they're in

a house of a house, and you see, if you put you put a

light out, then, but a sombra so there, that they saw a

little that came down there and the houses of campaign. And that,

they said, no you don't you see these things, but there are alushes. Normal, no? The normal.

Yeah, but, but, figureate that me is what me impression all the people that I

invited to that come and that come and that they're not at this one, it's time

of conversation, the alushes, always. If it's that's something is something, if you do you

do you are faraneo, well, I don't know, but what what, what, I mean, what,

and, and, I mean, I mean, I mean, but, but if you do you know,

me, I was going to and I'm, and it was like, to investigate, what is what more

is what, what is what I have to know, to know, to know, to be, to be

that's example of the Chechene and the Chachan and the Chachin and, the Chechchon is the

Arbor Malo Exactly And the Chechen is the that's the Cureen is

that you are the men who were two men who are So, so that's things,

like, you know, yeah, then we're to talk more to be about

some of those are like what? What? Chechen, that's when you when they're

when they're coming at not so don't know they're so, but always

ask because something So, many, like, for example, what said is of Veracruz. In Veracruz, what is super-arraigated, the question of the brujeria,

of the santae, of the cairns, the santaer, in the area. The zone of north. Yes. So, Tupan. Tupan,

all that's, Katemako. Cattemaco. So, Catamaco. So, Catamako, of all this of the, of the curanderos,

of the bruchos, and of all the factions, satanical, of the Santa Muirt, people who They're in the

people and they're there and they're there's a thing very ample

because we're we're we're in the actuality well before

it was something that I don't I don't me to do you

do if what if did me but right yeah all

all all right that that that that part of the

stuff that that's that is a point very bad. Totally.

Sipro. Point a malo because that's that you have a fantasy that you

have a part. Yes. And, and the fact, I'm much.

Desgracially in this of the curanderos, of the chamanes, or so as we're

as we don't know to the technology, the media, the media, the

things, there are much stafador. Much, much stafador. And it is very complicated

that you you can't with persons that they really know about the theme and if you're going to find out of those who know how to manage. If is that is very, very, it's very, it's very, it's very, it's very, it's not much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This, I, well, I'm, a example, so, rapidly-ishim, but no, no, I'm going to be, of the thing, no? I'm going to get a little, but for that to me understand, to,

to where it's, so, Has two days, a companion my me said that his cato so he said he was up to Facebook and put him, now if it was an error of him, he put his direction where he lived,

but no more he felted the house and so. Pus all those those data. All the name of his husband, of his familyaries, because you see that they're parted in the public? So, so, so I was, So I was nervous.

I was like, I'm in a call. And then, I'm, I'm saying, oh, you, you're doing, no, is that

they're doing, I'm, they're saying, that you know, the bados, they're asking money. And me,

did they're the name of my spouse? And where I live? So, then there's a, I mean,

so, you, a, a, the deseration of one for eliminate the problem

yeah, yeah, in any in whatever aspect, right we're talking about about the

mythic of that part so, then you see, ah, the chaman, I see, to help

to them, to us, to sanar, all, yeah, the limpe and I don't see what,

I'm so, I'm sure to be with the finted and, and, a little

if you and they're to involve no, it's that we need another and it's

a little because I see very bad. I mean that that part before not it

was so it's complicated it's very complicated fiftate in this type of of cases

at the maybe no more you know my mom was her she

she was she she she'd well we could be we can she

was, I know, but she had a form very particular of a particular to

work. She obviously cobrable, but if the workes not had effect,

they said that not they were going to pass, it's going to be to be

going to the case, but if no so it's not so you're

insatisfech you, not me pays. And, of In fact, it's

much that much people of scarce resources, people very poor and he

I'd and he I'd pay a particular things. My mom

and them and you imagine the level of economy of these

people that a sometimes they were with with and some

with things so things that they cultivated that they had

with what they had and my mom, with all of the custom, in some

cases, because he said, no, you know, you know, get it's a to your house, but the people,

then the people, so I'm like, and I, see, and so I did, see, you know,

even, even they've got, whatever, so, so, so, yeah,

but my mom, then the majority of all I'm but I'm but I'm sure,

much stafor. Much. Demacious. Much. Unfortunately, so are the things. You, in your family, no,

they're going to be in a situation that has to be with a my tia? My Tia said, or mentioned

that they were in those, in those cases, because he was that was that she was that.

She was in the creencia that was in that was that someone had made something. Okay.

Because you see that there's that there's that there is, so, so,

not much that part but I don't I can't not even I don't know I can't confirm

but in so in those cases remos a practice like that I'm saying I'm doing

and I'm talking that part not you don't you don't you don't you know

so I'm so I'm so things yeah but I'm that man that's

that's bad that's that that's that doing nothing but I

think a little I'm going to I'm a little a little not I mean

with my husband I've yeah eight years and there was a lot

where I me went to me was and I yeah yeah

I am and yeah the part the situation was complicated with

so so so so that that part not not

we don't we're out of the way, getting to the house. But it was a round

no, the, the W. Oh, you know, you know, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was, so, I was, like,

so, I don't know, if it's that, that's, that, that, that,

that's, that, they're, and they're, and, and, not precisely, fagate that the

work's, the work well-en functioned from where they're, not precisely they're in your house.

So, so if they're made to be a person that's about, people, and people, there's over

much, much, but that's the way, it's a good, to be a, look, with that people. Not precisely

they need to do the things No, it has to be there your photography to be in a a guy in a life,

something like, so they're they're in the things and they're that they're not, it's true.

And also you know, when so you know, when spirituallyly, not I'm not to say

that's no, but when spiritually, you're inestable. Mm. So,

no, I'm not I'm not going to go to the church or that or things like so,

but you you don't you're not you're not you're not this with a light that

you're that that's a force like that that okay so okay so it

so it can't that's that in a situation of this type that was going

to be all both you were you were in a situation

similar could can be in those moments how were you

you know, because we're spiritually what's, you know, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, we're going to go to me, say, we'll ask us, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thank you for

, I'm, too, your day of life, see. Cue, me, to my family, my daughter, my wife, my wife, to me be able well, that. That part of, that, I think, that's part of, I think I'm really

arraided, although not going very much I'm going to like my my mom's saying,

no, you know, you're going to go to be very bad, so, yeah,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, yeah,

because at the final of the count, the end, the end of the end up, the other

to be the yeah, and without so, and, well, because, of the,

that, that, what is, that, that, mentality or that's a bit of that part if we're

easy to sometimes to throw the to who not is the culpard and is that there's that

sometimes the word of the papas poor of you that you that they're

a question to say to what I mean to to say to you don't bette

cabron bette and you will pass this and it will pass so is the

word of the papas so is or I don't when you're you're going to you're going to you're

you're what you're what's what's it's so so it's so

like it kind of that has that energy that power of the power of the parents

as like to to do or like to protect

yeah it's very very immense no so is that

is that is something very very curious because you have to know

there's there's many stories of terror or the that I'm I've heard of

and so all of those abuelos that had to have to the kids

you're just you're not you're going to get to when they're in the madugated and

presumed both they're they're but if blanquism of the stust.

Why? Because they've seen the devil. The word of the parents has a power of the power of

the power of maldecy or they're saying. And, so are situations very

interesting. For there being in ambulances, you never you never you never you top

with a situation. I'm what I know what I'm in our situation

terror no has to only with only with the paranormal.

not you have toped with some situation that had provoked a terror so you know here

here I'm here I'm something that you have I'm medial diabetes yeah

yeah exactly you know you know in the attention hospitalary in what

is the room of the ambulance and you you no

it you know is that you do you but you

with with the life so Yes, yes. The MIRTE

The MIRTE is 100% with we're You're You're You're

The way to Salve to a life And the first I've

I've I've I've I've I've done in the finity of things that

you've Well, well At the But, maybe he said the mortgitio, that why not you know, but, so,

are situations that's, that's, that's, for example, well, I'm in my initial,

I was of the people that said, in the rumbo of the attention hospitalary, when you

start, or in all the case, those who started in the cross, then, so you,

as the, first day, or the second day, that, oh, I'm in an ambulance,

What service I'll talk about? I want a Choke and a troyal and that's an

so I'm so that they're they're pegal to the telephone or pegal to

payle to the cross and it was a service very good

that I didn't that I didn't know that's no, what interesting

to what more what when you when you want to you want and not

I don't do the desks the bad because that is a thing

a sometimes we're we're in the room no accidents

atropellated so things you want to you want to the bad to

someone to someone no it's an idea that we're

because you see the because you back to the ambulance

and you that you're in the service in the hospital canalizing, that you get to this, that you get to the other. I mean,

you have, that, that part of that I want to see, from, I mean, like,

get, I'm going to get the attention, I mean, that part, no? So, so,

the bigger school, was, of peggle the telephone two or

it's a because there's a part in the cross that's a circle in the

where we received the people where we know the people and the

radio operator has to be very at a very at the telephone I always I always

I'm always I'm always So, always, always. So, so

this day was a day, it was a night, and I'm on a matter

on because I'm with a amigazzo that's called Jose

Alfredo I So, so so so so I'm the

commandant he was a person very serious but was a very

very relagient when when it was to be strict to you

was to be I'd relaxia. So, and you, as a law, you know, not are,

there's, ah, the man, no, there's no, no, no.

So, we're in, we're I'm I'm remember, that were like,

at the night, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we,

we, we're, we, so, then we, so, so, then,

so, he'd occur to say a a company I mean

there's no there to get to the cross

and so what we get we we know

that not do those services good you can

get an an torpedo an an accident a

and to pay to to pay to to

to to to let's Well, no, I'm not I'm sorry, it was 10 minutes 10 minutes

and I contested I'm the call and for those the telephones they're

the number so and I saw the number and I know this number I know

I'm well Coeur Roja Mexican delegation Colorado that we can

we can we is that you're Rodrigo? I, yeah, what happened? I'm, what you know, what's

your Trey? was put it. He started to vomit and no has pared. And in a let me, let's a, um,

a colony that's where I'm from, where I'm from, where I'm from, the colony is called Aldorah, where I live my tia. Let me see, my tia so my tia so much

bad. And there we're going. So, for that my prima was in the curloja, because she was the one of the person was trying to be to get to the roja

there, to be to calm you, no? And, um, and, um, I, um, I, and, for not set,

the large, she infarted. Your aunt she, she, she, had had been a heart, she had a

hearted, she had to the heartening, and apart the hypertension, diabetes, all. So, if he's infarthe, uh,

we've done the RCP, the canalisamos all the is that I'm in paro. Yeah, so I, I mean,

I got a my Tia in paro, from the house, I said, no, there was a

no, there was a thing, he had a little, the, he did a cycle, the

subed the ambulance, we, we went all the way until that

we're to get to the doctor yeah I'm know

to be to be to be to see and and yeah

I did that that was at the 12 and

one of the morning yeah no no no no

no so I don't I was I was

I felt very very very culpable of that part and I

so I'm so it's my cause I'm coincid with that you do you

get to the phone when I'm when I took to be

an instructor and the counsel that I don't make those

mamas let you do not no do and they and

they tell my story and so so like that

oh is that Yeah, he passed. Yes. And is that the same

that you comment about, that when one is a novato, always think in the services that one like they

do. So, what one is the is there. So, so, if they're

very metid, because there were times that they were in and they were in,

and they were not never, I don't I'm not to be one of so.

So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, then, so, because the final of the way, they had

to live that experience. Yeah, they had to get to get to that.

Only those that are the are the who are who are who, well,

you know, well, you know, and, it was a step of that I said,

no, I'm going to go, no, no, no, I, I,

so, so, so, so I, so, I, I was, I,

I'm I'm there, I know to solve the debt with and that nobody in

that's, so nobody to talk that's, so it was like a year, a year,

a year, a year and a half in radio. Ah, okay. So, then after the event

you, it pego so, that you didn't, no, no, I didn't,

yeah, I, but I was, I was, I'm focused on the radio. Ah,

okay, so I, so, so, so, so, the, the,

the, or the the students that I've I've been, I'll do you're in not doing

they're in these nomadas not they don't even they're this, this, the radio is

for emergencies urgencies not to go and I'm I'm in that part I'm

in that but yeah with the time I'm I'm oh, he's

you're yeah because is that this part of the attention pre-ospitalarian

never can't see that's that's that's you never

you know never you're with a group of people or people that are

not that you say like that you are so you get a

and then you start to get the so you because yeah because she

is it's very this saludos to Routia ha

ha ha ha ha salo this for there is very

arraigated that the simple actually the simple actually the same thing to mention that's a tranquil the day and so let's do you know it's that also something something very strange or so it's

so it's in this ambit for that we're that you know a little when you say in the what is in the hospital in the in the in the ambulance

or so in that in the rumbo of the attention hospitalary is that someone says,

is that is that in a Santiamen that is the accident that the that the

bolcado with 10 lesionados that person that was the person that was a infartado

the aghado the agh in Praia Delphine and yeah and not you can

you No, you know, it was. It was like, service, other service, other service, to service, yeah, so it was so there.

So, so, so, in the private, as in the normal, so, so,

so, don't say, those words, it's a day, is a day, is a

better, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, yeah, is that it's, so,

so, so, so, and, and, so, and, so,

and, of that you're tranquil and that one person mention it, no, like it's very tranquil, we need more

action. Ah, my, God, oh, yeah, almost, he's,

he's said, or he mentioned, because it desata. Yeah, or we're we're not

we're not, no, no, no, it's a part of, it's to belear

in the hospitales for camas, for this, for the other, that's very common. Very common.

So, never they'll say, and the and the day, a pamba

or Chesko the senan because the really, this is the so, so that's

so that so, so, she was me abacko so, I mean, and,

I mean, they were, one once, this, this, even in the guard, I was always

was, to be, to be the guard of the Martyr, my guardia that always

was of the day, was a night, was a night, and until the

day. So, then the next again, there was people, we were

a good. So, so, always when they were at one or two, rollens

the, the, the, the, the, the telephone, no, to the

students. And we're going to we're going to be able to get to be the paramedic, I'm doing a job tomorrow and you're so you're so you're

so you're not to be a large we had been one hour one that we had to get a what happened

there's what there's a there's a one where a kilometer 33 of the

carletera Veracruza Veracruz to Perrakewit, there was by the there was

the there was the river yeah for the place that's

called the mangos or something was it was a

area a a a problem there there there

a curve a long then then they went

and I don't be not well so how

lesion are like no it's a volcano a

a car a there's a family there and who reported no,

then a person that was going to see there and there and the carionette

no no, no, me said that was all was okay that

all so so I for the regular there always

we're we're we we're we we're there so

there there a bomber that's a bomber that's yeah

so so there there there there's there there

there a look and I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I put I and I started and I said

you know you know I'm there a incident for

here ohles you don't you can't you can to

you're was getting and I think that the way to see a

path no, but at the most if it's affirmative because you know

because there's that's much of the false alarms so

so then just just you know if they're to

you know to call and tell that you go to get that

they're more data and so then what we we're to go

A point Intermediio There's There's There's a place That's They're

They're going to And they're And then In the Ambulance of the Cross Rhoja

always Is porrado So So, So, So, So, So,

Allent And, Uh, Well, See, Another another Another

The Solicant That's A man, And the Man, and the Na-N

And, They're just You know, you know, when when they're someone, they're

there are three cruces, there, there are, there are you, you're going to be, ah.

Oh, well, you know, and five minutes yeah, I was getting there, I was sure is

a kilometer, total. If you, me mentioned two times. I came there. I was a siren

was very very so much. And I opened the carijon the lights, the lights,

to the other. At the the other. To the have a light

more light. It's a light to be part of the the, of the

where you want to so I did, I'm didn't say, so,

no, so not they, So, then, the side the way

I'm at the crosses I'm retorned and then check in there, and then

just I said, I said, oh, and that you know, we're we're

we're we're not there. Oh, so the people were to communicate

with the central to to say that they were seeing that they

were And me And he said. And not they're not? So, we're talking those

were in the place, where it's a place that's a carretel very transit because that goes to

Veracruz. So, so there's there's there that were passing canions of cargiones,

there are vehicles very pesters so we're we're very espuces also. So,

So, no, no tardy also, we've to be a banderate, but there was in the

case. So, I, for morducier, more a detail, me go to the placas,

to the cruces. And the cruces are a senior, a senior, and a

little. Coincidian with the description of the people that were

for the emergency. So I said, or it's a a problem and they're a lot of it, or it's something paranormal. So my chico's and with the

with the chief of guardian me said, what do you go, come, look, look at the cruces. And in that then I had a telephone of that

of the Nokia no idea. So one of my health, not, he had a famous

Bradbert. So, he took a photo. And I made to the

mother. I was I'm trying, manh and I was so,

I mean, I didn't, I, I, didn't I, I,

I, because we got so we kept a in shot. It was something

that was something that I went to the 180 that the

that And, of a miracle, no, no, there was nothing, no, there's traffic. I said, Bergen, and, pardon, but so I, I, I, I did I desercelerate, and as soon as well as you can, what you have, no, so you're, you know, are you taken, so on that? No, well, yes. And, yeah, and I gave to the delegation, me sente, and I said, what, what I've got to pass?

it was a it was a something and yeah the other day I was I started I was

I was I was I was I was practically this this all the time

I said to another my said you know you know you know

you know you I'm the same service the same altitude

the same and the same that you do castrear the telephone, and you

don't contested. Because it was a lot local. It was a not a

no were like a 55, 33. Because a a reason because a thing is that the

blumas are at more major. Yeah, it's very common. And a

sometimes when you want to take a call a real that is an

emergency, as you don't familiarize that's that's 55, 33,

the cuell literally clueled could, so if they're insisting, I'd

go to go to two times and the third other they'd again

to get to come and then they were other part, because they had been

choked in the autopista and they were from New Mexico and they were

to be but for the regular always when it was a accident

confirmed was the no saw about the C5 or the

C4 So, I mean I kept so I mean I don't I don't I don't

I don't I'm not I said I said was real it was a woman too

very pesable yeah because literally the like the you sent you

sentia the the person with the need of the because you

then you when it's a man manned me the ambulance because

my mom or, man, man, man, ma'amalore, because there's much of the idyllis, no what, the deseration. Ah, the desperation. Yes, yeah, it was the tone of, of the person that we've got to communicate. And, I mean, I said, take care in that part, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not, I mean, to do so, all of us was, or, I mean, to do you, know, I don't see, it was, it, so, I mean, it, so, of, I, so, yeah, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, But if it was a

a drama, it was a really made made a bad I said, I mean pesed,

yeah, because you know, no, no, no, we're like in the

television, ah, it's a one of no, nobody. Yeah, at the

final of the we're back we're , we're we're so, and if I

don't know so I'm so in the cruces, I'm a false a false

alarm but, but and the cruces. So, I'm Or is a person who

can't a day and he does this blumas or if it was

really you like you like you can't be there somebody

that someone that saw or not for the so you want to you

see that you that that that image that you

you say curious is that she said that there was and that had been that's

a one one or a few one or a one of a one way one way so that

so that so much that's so much so much they're interesting and more

that they're to be with our rubro so I could say well say um

well so are so so many people not I'm the simple

of mention them but I think are that are things are

very, I think. Well, I'm very much, my friend, for having acceded to be a,

to be able to a chapter with us. I'm completely sure of that you about you

want to tell you. And I'm that. Cremme that's satisfied with all these

stories that you're so. Well, so it's a more than are vivences,

some, some, I think, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh,

signaled that something is bad or that do you do that the thing well

with what I'm my family no yeah the other is very

very mysterious no is a is something it's something

that is something you can't no you can say like like

like when in the ambulance you they're in the door or

you can't in material and is that what we talked precisely with a friend that is a bomber, that is

from the other than my city, and we talked about that in these unities, we're in a point between the life and the murder. We're practically in the filo, in the filo, justly

where someone can perse or someone can make, and, we, we know, we have that privilege to say, to be to see, to be

those two parts, because not any those be and a diario well much

you have a mind and a grab one and you know you need

to get you need to make very very and be very free and

be very so it is that it's that it's because there there's there's

because there this this no this is this no we have because we we're

we're we're many times that there people that if there's car the man in decision yeah he's

you know yeah so yeah so also also there's a little bit of tacto for these situations but well so is the labor amy go I repit I thank

much much for accompany in this capitulo and I hope that I'll go to return to this one come you accompany you

another capitul and this time me traigas to your spouse because also has to have to have been

goodiss she no he could come she she kept cuando to look

to care it's, well, I you know, I'll let me make a here to be here to be going to be

to talk more stories, to be the about what I'm there's there's to have to be reserved as

some of the yeah, no, to be we're doing, we'd be we're talking, but you

have more things that's more pendent. Yes, we're there, we're just some of

some of things to do, thanks to the really, the really, I'm much much

how has progressed and I it's very much good to be you. I'm

very much the attention. And, because even, comment to what, what,

what, yeah, but I think they're going to be very to be the clips in TikTok,

in Facebook, in all the platforms. And there's the spirit. Well, for now, dear

our I'm very final of this chapter and you're in the next chapter of the next week

on the next Merec with Jesus of Nazareth Martinez for part of your servidor

and of my friend my friend Rodrigo we we wish good nights

good good all good