Más allá del miedo Podcast - 07 | Encontramos BRUJERÍA EN CASA y mi HERMANO SE MURIO por TOCARLA

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

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To that we'd sell it was more barato. Uh-huh. Well, we went over-y-abri-lety, and abri-nol, and abri-lety. Let's find out of what we've got to... Uh-huh. Well, I could say that it was like a bottle, but it was like a harron. Well, it had a... We thought that it was a...

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we'll take us, no, we'll talk about that my other brother, ah, well, that's, that we're gonna be having mehury, that's, that they're gonna, that From, from there, started a lot of problems in the house, very, enferrous, the piers that I said that were, piedras, were wets, five, six years, more or less or less,

he, piedras, all the, all the that with what a little he could have, I was, no. And I was And I heard how he he'd like he he'd like to hear to hear of a but I'd say, no

I'd say, no because my brothers were so, then then we'd we'd say we're, but, no, we're,

we're not, Trin, you know, you know, you know, that, you know, that don't, that constructions, that's, to here, to here, to,

back, no, and we're, more above, and more about, and more about, because, well, we're, we'd,

we'd, literally to put, for the bases. We started, they were like trappos, well, envueltos, but there were photos of children. In that moment, there was a reason that we'd have seen, my

brother, I'd say, infirm, of today, the more chiquillo, of today, passed to the hospital, and in 22 days, he's mule. Salus and welcome, Sam, before, before, Sama, of what disconucing to a new chapter of MED, with Jesus

Nazareth Martinez. In this occasion, we're to talk a little about terror with a friend, a person that I've known since a few years,

we're going to talk with my friend, Trinidad. How is Trino? Here, at the year,

thank you, thank you for invite me to your program and here and we're ready to get to

many people, I've been to have brought to our population to our population, to our Zawayo. If there's

something that we're in our people, is that almost they know or they

don't know about about terror. So, you, you are crevient of these things, of the supernatural? Well, fiftate that, that is I think,

because, well, you know, various times that I talk, things, like, paranormal,

say, so, so that's, so that's made think, I've done, I've done, I think, that's been

that I'm that I'm talking a lot, what's for you, have been the, the,

those, the, the, Furtes. But I'm about you're talking that there were some things in your

house. First, first of the context, no. Yes. We're originally, we've used

there by the Cray-Bra there. There's there in the Temple of Sacred Corrason.

My my papa when I had five. I've two brothers, one that me, one that

me, one more more than, and the other was five years than, the other

was a He died. So, then my papa, and we're going to live to, uh, another colony.

But, in that, in that colony, obviously, like, recently had had fallen to my father,

because we started in a terrainito, in, in a Tejaban, literally, well, a ranchit,

like we know we know we know, commonly, and, well, I was,

I think, my first experience was when I had, like, one of the first thing,

was, little? Yes, is that principally, I remember because it was in one night,

no, we're in a night, and as well, like the door was, literally, I mean,

I remember, I said my mom, you know, what I'm sorry, I'm afraid, to bring the light. Well, my mom

can't, what you want, you want, just, no, a, I'm, I said,

is that, you know, is that, you know, a figure, a man, a man, you,

you, saw someone in the door. Yeah, but was a man,

you know, a figure masculine, of a man, a man old, delgado. And I said,

he's there, and she said, and she said, that no, that no, that no, that no, that's had,

that, that I'd that I'd do you know. So, then the course of the night,

no, no, I don't know, I don't know, the notion of the time in, how time

passed, but I remember that I'm that I'm done, and, and,

and, and, before that I'm siara, this, I'd, uh, I was sent out in the corner. Ah, the

Lord? Literally. Like, so. So, I was, I'm sitting there. It was a person, well, that I never had seen. I mean, even of, how he looked at, well, you know, how it wased, you know, I mean, I was never, uh, yeah, I, I mean, uh, he, I, uh, play a, uh,

I know, yeah, uh, yeah, uh, uh, I'm gonna a lot, yeah, like, um, the kind of, like, those who are, like, And, like, arriskadas, and it was a pantalon cafe. I was sat downed there and me mirabah. So, I, well, I, then, I was, of morrillo, of the, I was, with the hand, with the sabba.

That's, and I'm, that's... Yeah. And no, he never, never, he was. So, until that literally came ne'nice, and, and I let's see to see. And so, you know, to pass to your mom?

So, she'll commented to my mom. Then she said, no, you know, you know, you know, says, Rezale to the angelita, your guard, all those those things, then, I'd like, I'd say, a man, a man,

a little. So, then, after that experience, in my case, started to pass more things. Because, as I said, well, we're

not, we're the mother, my mom was out of the mother, you're going, the most grand? The most great. So, then,

I'm a couple that we're still and we're still to play, because, obviously, it's a terrain

grand and we we had to get a we're going to get him a man little and we

we're just we're doing how someone he said to do you really, so they're they're

they're they're and they and all going to nobody but so but so

but so but so so that's yeah so of that I'm I'm I'm

so I'm because they're a voice like a voice like a voice like a one of

a Oh, okay. Like, like, this, this, well, a part of

there, as I said, no, no, they were to say, they were we're going,

we'd that were to get into the mess, or you know, you just, you just, literally,

then, no, not, but, like, they were, they were, they're,

they're, another other thing, other thing, other other thing, and I, and I,

the voices of the my brother, the more little, he had five,

he had, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm a I'm a little bit more than the

six, five, five, six years, more or less, him, I remember that we know that we got him

out of the Tehavan, viewing the television and he was out out of the , there, there was,

there, there, all, that, with what that a little that could be

that was, no. And I heard, how he was, he was, he,

talked, this, you, take, this And I, I, I, I, this. No, I know what I said, but we got him to hear, of a sudden, that he said,

I know if he was to do something, but he said, no, because my brothers are nox. Ah, okay. No, because my brother's enoching. And he said, this, my brother, saying, well, he, he, or he, so, because we didn't hear him, he's another voice. What did you pass in the coo?

Why do you have the cooho? then, then in that moment we'd say we're, but no we're not to see,

to see, you know, suspicious, you know, the person that was, that was, that was,

that was, but, it was passing the time, like, like the , like the red,

so, so, so, so, yeah, so, and just a, much,

much, much, much, people, much, much, much, people,

there, man, is that, there's there's there's They're just them. P,

pass one of the night and see a get a people who confirmed. Well, it's that you know, it's a time, I mean, it's a little bit, like

of four meters, but as the 20 is it's so, then it's so we're going to get to get a rajoladit, but as it was

another house, constructed one side, well, no, she was, we're not to get to get to get to

there, and then, so, we know, we know we're, we know we're, we're not, we're just to see,

a medium-terren. So, I don't see, what many things would be in, but there. See,

another other time, I remember, he was going to be a man to him to

him to he was a Guadalajara, well, he had problems with his family, no?

So, he went, but he came with with depression.

Then, and after that he came there, more the thing, more

the more And I'm I said, You know, I said, you know, I don't

see, I'm in to get in the diablo, or something, because he's a sustado, no? Why?

Dicest that I don't hear voices wweckas. How, voices whewkas? Diss is, I'm just,

I'm just, I'm just, I'm not I'm, well, I'm not even, I'm always working,

to one or to another, or to a mom, or to a man, or to So, then,

we, we started like skepticism, not, because he was told him because he was

macabras. We had a ropero. He had a crystal roto, because, well,

we're we're not, so in the game, what you want us, and he, he said,

is that there's that there's there's there's the roperer, but, nobody.

Ropero antivus. It was an roper bigito, of those that, well, I think

he rode my my mom, no, no, no, no, no, no, so but he he was told that there was a guy, well, I was you know, you know,

because I'm, I don't know, I'm, I'm, uh, I, uh, yeah, I'd ever, uh, you ever, I'd, uh, uh, but, you know, but, you know, how, how, uh,

how, how, uh, how, like, literally, then, then, like, if, was, it was, just,

uh, the ropero and out of the carosted or parado? Like so Oh,

ah, accosted? Yeah. And, man, it's a chinito me put in. No,

me that's I'm going to do you. And that's that's, and that's, and that's he was,

well, so, because he was, he was there was there. Me, he,

and he's metio. So, that was that was, that was, like, where I

started to him what I said? But you're, in your thinking that's a lot of this is the like that's

like that's he's in a gorephobia. Yeah, that he said, and I didn't know to know that my t'alloc.

In the fond of my t'i, he has fallen, he's a few he said, he's a man, then he's then again

me said, you know, see a a woman with a where? or what? When do I do you know, when I do you know, it's a tajabal long and we're, we'd, we'd, we'd, and we'd, in one, my mom and my

brother, chico, in another, my brother, and I, and he was the last, so. So, no, there was divisions, then, then, so, there, where I'm, there, there, I'll see. And, well, I was, And, well, I said, I know,

well, that will that's, that's, that's a way, I said, no, the other

time, the other way it was, and I did, and, well, but, but,

he started to me, that, like, to get me and I'm to get me, I'm,

so, to be, I'm, not, I, not, I, had,

I, sat, he, sat down, and, sat, , Mied, well.

Ah, okay. And I remember that one I was, I think, until the final, and then of him was, I was the bathroom. So, I had to go to get to go to bed.

That day, well, I, I was, and I was, up to him. A, the woman? Yeah, a

woman, a, even, you know, I was, a, man, she, was, a man, chaperrita, that was,

that was, a, little, the, she was, she, she. I,

a, a, a, a, a fadda like florida and I'm I'm a quote, so like, with rugs indigenas or...

Yeah, well, um, rasgos, like when you go to a, quite your people, then. Yeah. That's rare. And she was, and she looked like, so

fashimently. Fichament. So, I said, what, I know, I'm saying, you know, yeah, me creas, that I'm not I'm not sure, that you, no, well, you know,

well, is that now, so, is that, is that she, is that there are various questions that I mean me make

think about also because also because they were not the fear and why it's not

the person depends the person but it's very different the manifestations depending

the type of personality of each kind of the energy that's in that moment

like for example a time with a friend a he said,

you know, my spouse was very, very, very creetient of the things, even the of these,

these, these, I think, and she said, and she, she said, and she, I saw,

I, he had things, uh, things that I never see, the sir, you know,

I said, you know, to give to this year, uh, for that me, a little bit of,

no, so, of what, the, of what, the, and the he said,

and the he, is that me presentan, and you know, because I think that one

is the presentable to him and a his wife because his energy

of him was, he was, he was, and the of his wife, was in a

level very, very very badito because the senior was a

I think had a cancer the she was so you when you

a question like depression, like what is what you do you of your

family attract those energies and other aspect there

there says that the objects antivos can capture or they're chuping

the energy absorb and all capture all those these energies attract a

entes and the entes and the other does the way of the area

of your zone of if they're in a house, so for the place that's where

the object that's a with this that you mentioned, you mentioned about the ropero, precisely, I was talking with an friend a bomberer who

I'm sending a a manned a manned a manned a minute, I told a history precisely had to be

an ropero an ropero an rupropero that said he said he a vibra when he was close of the

ropero but but fea the vibra. So he he expressed to his abuelita that his

abuelita beia entities and apart of them interactuable with them of where you go where you go

that's where you're that's he can't or so interactuable and the sir he said that was because she was being then when he expressed that he had been to be a report or to

start of the ropero that the signora he said to be my man I mean me me can't this roper and you know because I'm that he's because he

he did he he was to get to the ropero and that was the lunita She said, the She's

Observe Acerve That's The Spego That's The Spego and that the part

of the back of a a woman that was a little or behind of her

Abuela So that he so he's he's he's he

got and you see yeah she yeah she's that's

that's that that's that my mom that Imagine

that that you say that that then he

he's he's he's he's let him let him let's some

some various questions yeah there manifestations an object an object and the

energy of your family or so so so so and so so

it was it was people it was people I don't I know I don't

I know I'm I'm we're we're a part of the car

and you And, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, yeah, I was, yeah, was, grandesito. So, I remember, because we're, for that we're to get us, for that we're abriending, and, abriending, and

abriending, and abriending, and and in that we found we, figure it, what we're Uh-huh. So, we're, it's, it's, it was, it was, well, I could say, that it was, like, a, it was, like, a

bottle, but it was, it a vidrio and a video of that I, I mean, I never ever seen a video like. Like, like, those, like, those, like, those, come are the garrafons of the water once, that were in crystal. But, but, but, but little.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, to say, like, literally. And in that, in that florero, well, it was, it was a, we're not, you know, we're not, you're a black. Ah. He had, like, a paper

that cameo. But it was a paper of those amarillos, well, no, not a, a hoja, like, a paper, of, like, a paper, paper,

and the other he had like peteras like like, like,

well, not you can't say, of the real, because they're

very big, but are the color of a little little

little little little. And up, where I would the tap,

or where it was a top, it had like a wrap inwept. Like

trap, no, no, no, no, no, they, they're

they're we're we had of, of, I said, I mean, I remember, and I was, and we'll talk about it. And, well, we said,

we'll take us to the bassoon. No, we contam us with that my other brother, ah, well, that we're going to be having a fear, and that's, that they're going to that they're going to romp. Okay. A part of there, they've started a lot of problems in the

house. He's a man. And, my family is that it was a people, the whole life in the camp, my mom,

all the life commercial and the way to be to be in a lot of not a

very much. My two men, that's that he was going to get a point that's

not about to do you know, to make to know, and to the time we're in

the hospital very grave. Yes. The doctors, no, is that no, is that

doesn't then, then what he's to do for manipulary that. But no

we know we know we're what's we're Fifigate, precisely when I was talking with Omar, with Omar Crewe, we've talked about that

because I told a story of a man that's exploration urban and has to be a point that he went to a pantheon and found a workeria. It was done. No, he passed

nothing. But the witch that did the work, he did know that he didstice. And, and it's,

because yeah, there was Facebook, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all the platforms, he sent a message for Facebook, because his video was so he was viral to that man.

So, then he says to the man, no you know, you know, you know, you know, all the time you've chaste to lose, because there's a lot of energy very, very, very

very, very, uh, these people, or so, they're, uh, they're, uh, are gonna, uh, yeah, much, a, much, the demand energy that they're gonna, and he said, no you know, you know, that you

you have to get a man he he's a

little a problem to have a problem to get to the

and the person and and you know I'm I don't

know I know I know I'm to the thing is that when

we're talking of that Omar me gave a one

something something something something that was a it was like

if was a a ball the work of Bruchery.

It's the braw the brawrae the ball is the work and if there

someone that's in the track he's he'll get to get to get so that

so that you're put in the track was what was what was that is that is

what is what is what what we know we know we we're we're not

we're we're a so you're a to what was destined if they were, I don't know if we

liberate something so, in many words, no. Because yeah, we've been to be more

things. More things and more things for raras, no? That, of a

different, we'd be able to pass people, that we know we know, that we know we

like, literally or so they were, and, and, and, and,

and, and, we, know, the, the, it's we're, because, because,

because, because, because, as I think, this, we're doing, we're doing, first with a

father, the father was, he said, he said, he said, for what they were to

do, but the things did you know. So, platicandol with my my mom,

with the people, they know, they're that's, they're doing, to, you know,

to, a, a, a, a, a, a, a brouca.

Oh, well, for what? Is that he can help? And then he, he, he

came to, because he was a he came to the reason, and we said, you know,

is that it was a very very strong. Very very. So, there's

to go to the part tetrica. The the I said that were that were

that were that were that were that were fine, so obviously

they were they, they were they, well, it wasos. No, well,

with a reason. Imagineate, then, and we're, no, yes, those, those,

but that's, no, is that that's a, that's the other thing, that's

that's of a lot of no, and when they're, but it's super potentialized

that work. And, and we, he said, what, he's, no, he's,

and why? And, and why? And, he, he, he, Oh, yeah.

How many years? Well, I, 15, and the 14. Well, yeah, he's a little bit. So, then he did a liberation with a lot of things, vellas, velas of no, no, no, I don't I can't be able. Well, this, um,

this, and, uh, was, uh, was, I was doing, I, I could say, a ritual, no, no, no, no, I see how it's, it was a liberation. And we've been in a long time. good time.

After, this, we know the opportunity to, yeah, I'm talking about about three,

four years after we've been in past. So, we know the opportunity to build,

but obviously in other excavations, but now come as the entry, well, but also

we're not, but those are some not, if they were of an human, of a

animal, or of any, but they're very profound. Because, because the

tubery of the water pass of my house to two meters.

the drainage It passes Like a 3 Pardon So they've been To have to Abri a little

More of that I remember Because my My brother Myrano I was He was in That's

I was 19 He had He was And he And I You know What?

I, Vio Vio Where or what Here? Here in the

house And so What? Me He said That No that no

that no that we we're not he knew he ignored and the day next continued

and all and more whesillos yeah and we and me he says Triny

you know that don't that don't that they constructs that can't but we're

we're to build to do exactly exactly where me said where me

said it for that they're So, if the house made 18, he said that he said that I'd have like to 17. Yeah. 18.

And we're and we're and we're we're, we're literally a vessel triturated, if what you want to do you want to be a lot of the time

no, no, no, no, no, no, I know what would say that would be no, but is that no, complete, completeos, so,

so, no, you know, they're, you know, you know, you know, it, like,

if they'd have cuted, well, in pedas. Ah, okay. So, so, they were not on one

side, and other for other for others. But on it's like like a like a

like, literally, we're just about, or so in the center, or this time, but in

he said, he said, he said, I don't know I'm gonna the why, the, I'm,

and resulta that more above and we went to get back, because we've seen, the dural, literally, to

sit down for the bases. We started were the same were like, like, they're like, enveloped,

but atentro they were photos. Ah, car, and they were photos. And they were photos of

the woman of the vestido, a photo of her. A, the woman that had

seen, oh, no man, you're, the net, that, in this moment, that

the reason that we had to be the reason that we've had seen. Yes. So, then there's things,

it's still constructing, like if no, but we're going to we're just that re-kemone. So,

my brother I'd say, the more chiquio, of today, the man, chiquel, and in 22

days he's mulled. Muriel. And all, you know, is that, you know, is that, you know,

injection, a a negligence medical. But when I'm doing with what you say, is that

you say, it's that you're going to go to in Morelia, in the hospital infantil and the

same about with doctors and they're saying, you know, what you do you know,

no, not provoked this. So, then, well, you know, or passed

a lot of things in the house, and I I'd rather be to question to the same

broho and he said, no, it's that the problem is that you're

talking to you're the same what's the other but but that that's the

job, so I said, I mean he was that was to come to a family

then one to one to one to another to one, to other to other

to say I don't I don't but you know when you when

you're to your brother he took because it was well, then I

tried to when I was like that when I was like that I'm not but I don't

I think well well how if the doctors were attending

all that and I still looking other people dedicated to the

same and I said no is that is that is that that

that that and me he explained the type of work because that was

specifically so you know the you know what you did you did you

did you know in details yeah because we're because we're we

we're we're that we're we're with the photos with

the photo had sinis I I remember I don't I don't

the material but like so so like it was

a type of and and me he said no, it's that in the

moment that they the job he was done. Yeah no had a

chiste guard. So this this is a shock because is something

that is my brother and all what happened but he said the problem

of the house is that you topas with things that you don't

understand the magnitude or much less of Yeah. ...of what

was going to pass, then a question? That house where lived, from how

time before they had been or the terrain? It was a landio.

As we said, we had we had to we've done, and yet there was a people,

because my mom, yeah, of a family was, bigita here. Yeah.

And much people, I remember when we came to we were to live there,

and they were they were, they were I mean, because, or the kids not they

didn't let them to get their to the house, to play with us. So, then then,

as I said, were going passing a lot of things there, well, in what I paro.

This, that, we're, we're, we're, like, and we're going to

have been past, so, we, we're, but, but, but,

a minor scale, so, that I Fierremenar-Arescal, we're here, I'm that I'm here, I'm going to be like that, yeah, no-mast like, like,

like, a silhouette. A silhouetta, yeah, that's. Yeah, and rapid, and that's a every rata. But, literally, it was a infirno, I'm living there. That's etapap,

that, after I've completed, no, no, no, it was. It was, it's terrible. And, oh, yeah, and your mom, no, no, no, no,

it's also, or, or, or, or, or, so,

I'm, there's a problem of the health. This, well, my mom

is diabetic, no? Uh, uh, and, and, and, we've,

uh, for that us, for my mom, um, also, um, too,

no, me says, to your mom, they're trying, uh, apart.

Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Who, who's who then how

you say that they're working because I know that's a job pesas a work

and say to your mom they're like you're the words if we're not we

start right because it's going to go so it's so

like in the moment no it's more than who is or what is

or what's what's and he he said you know I need to I need to also

that's this, this other, this other, and that you know, that's certain things, no. And, and a part of, and he started to, he started,

he was doing, no, no, my mom, like, no, no, no, more so, more than, I felt like, there was a time, I'm talking, a little before the pandemic, like in the 2010, after the, in 2019,

in the 2020. That year, no, was very, very, very hard-simmed, to her. A, every rata-a-mala, and she put a mala and and she put a malay

and puros problems but fickate that also my mom well is that I want my experiences nah no stagia

for that she but I feel that my mom has that that's a domo or that

malificio interact with also with people interact with people more people or

people because she said you ask you ask what you ask you want to

you're to be what you're Typical. What, what you do? What,

how do you? No. No, no. I, I, no, I, no, I, I, do,

I mean, I was, I said, I was, to be to be, to be to be,

and I know, and more, because I, I know, of, the, that's

this world, then, so, so, then she she, she, and she,

I, I, said, well, I, this person, a, this person,

and they said, that they're this, that this is of them, that this is your house, that here no us want to be, well, that's the

where is that was that house, that terrain? It's there in the Colourne La Lemonera, well, literally. Ah, okay. Is that also there's been, oh, have encountered of wessos, of persons, of... And there, especially,

I've been, well, it's been difficult. Yeah, yeah, very, very difficult. I know, no, no, I know the truth. What would be? why the people that would that would

do that but we're those we're those who those who were the to get to see that

that's the of the work is that is that is that is that being, talking about

when the people know, but there have passed a story of a man

that this man specifically was a a lot that were work of burglations

energies energites even I was also I felt very identified with that story for my mom. So, then the man, then I'm innamored

in the school, he said, well, I like this much this much. Very beautiful. Yes, this.

I was, I was out of his can't, you know, when one is an adolescent, one knows. When, oh, that's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, like, no, like, like, like, like, so,

like, just, like, one no, right? So, so, he

said, so, so, like the attractive, no, he'd do it.

So, then he said, I know what does my mom. Well, I'll do a one, an

marre, for there. So, then something, I mean, so, how it on the

work, but, figureate, he did do a form a stupid, he did a

marre, all he did to the perfection, copying things that his mom, but,

but this, my mom, like for example, to potentialize the work to use a Santa

Morte. You can use santa people, can use spaces specials, like for example

in Katemako has a place, there's a couple of a special where has a big very

very very strong. Those places serve to potentialize or the mortals,

as the case, what's what they've found those those wosites,

that potentializes the So, this he said, well, we're going to to potentialize it with a mortarito. So,

this manchews to the panteon to a tomb a disconocated. You know, you know, there's that there's

actually, in the of us, there's there's a look, see a cranium. Ah, look, that's

a man, that's a man, this man, he, saw, he, he was, he was a

tomb where they were in the he, he, he, he, he,

he, he did the armra he had he put the photographies the first the first

was the man was separate to the man to the newio to the after after the

armra with him when he did the he made that he he marro all this

all this work to the his and he left and he he's

to have effect the the the much the she started

to play with the know he he started

a special interest in this a man and the thing normal

but result is that the repent he was a man he said no like no

like no he's like not he's been he's he he said he more he

he gave to the work and he he was and he he was and what he

was he was that he fellesio the newio of the man he's he said well what's he did

do so when he went to when he went to all this he said well I can't say more than my mom. She's, he, he's, he, go, back with the mom. Mama, you know, that's what, this, this, but I did this. I did a marre, and, and, I used a, I'm

a man, I, no, but the , sir, I, go, of your tantas, madres, how you'd do you do that? They're going directly to the tomb at the, that had, had this muchach to, to get the job,

because I said that if If you not he was in the job also the man she

was to get to get to get to then they're to get and then

they're the work and the photography and the photographs and the

lot of the muchach and the no time she was in any moment it's

there practically it's but fiat for for a tontairia of this muchachio,

then they're just a life of this this and it's very common that they're not used

for the for the workeria fiftate that I don't think I that they used they used they were

they're of animals no for the so they're so they're so they're so they

and pardon that you interrupous fiftate that you know you know you know

then depends also then then the practicante of the bruj or the santae or who do you know how to do you know the way it's the the moment you like for example agrown the

the whetre the you're gonna sounder it's on it, they put in a container so then they say the mutaito if you no me acabas with this person I'm gonna say to you'll justacare

and it's and they're in-tierra. So imagine what was what what was when... No, well, I took a relation to from there, fift, because, I said, as I said, I said, I thought that was of animals, because literally

they were many, I said, at the most, they're not to be, to the perils, or they're, no, no, I see. So, because they're

various, it was. It was, it's a one of the and now that you say this this, most, more, fear, me da. No, is that is. Because one

would not understand the magnitude of that. And, fiatty, that many times, they're in brugheria, and I think that there are people that even say ryan. Yeah. Of course, I mean, me passed something very curious, fiftate, with one person that I knew in the hospital infantil. He'd he was his son, his son, he was

with water-calient. Stating, being, well, yeah, it was. Complicated. My brother was in therapy intensive, to do you enter a therapy intensive. So, So, I remember that they said,

no, you know, they're going to know in a libretitita who are, the papa

in the camera in the that's, the number of the number of the other papas

because they're to be guardia. And I remember that that was going to

be a guardial. And I had to give the libretta no, the

the guard, look, the these, the not the not, the

and And, before that to get to the guard, we're in the day, because that day, there was like a misa,

because it was in these times of the Christmas, when the of my brother. My brother fellacy on five of

January, but with him we came to him get him, he came to that these times. So, then we

started to talk to, you know, that's that my brother, oh, my man, so,

so, and your name, so, and so, and so, and then he said, he said,

you know, you, you're, you crees in the mortals. I say, to what is it

as I'm, like, what I think of the dead? No, that if you think you

think there's that you do that's no, well, the truth, I never me has

talked, I said, I said, I, didn't know, or not he was saying, no,

no, so, I'm, I'm, I'm, no, me passed this and

this, and for this, and so, so, then, then, he said,

is that I've got a I was that I've had 16 years and me she's a how that's

like she she's with a that's that's that's that's and I

and I said but why it's because it's because it's my and she said my

and me showed a photo of her look how you know well you know that's

no I said that's so it's so for so that's what's what said my

she started to put very mal, to vomit. Of the repented, the bimites had been all overlooking rapidly,

me said. It was the hospital because they were from a little to morrel, a ranchit.

And no, the doctors not we didn't reason. The medicare and all, but it

still, it was still it all normal. So, me said then we went to to look to

a a, um, a man, someone who could do,

so, so, so, I said. I go, and what happened? Well, we've got him. He did one a limpia. This, I mean, I'm, I said,

after, this, me said, me said, that my daughter were doing to do, obviously, well,

for a, for a job of a work. Uh-huh. So, that put they, I don't I remember if

were, if they were, and they said, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, we can't we can't we're doing yeah, yeah, he's got back back.

Yeah. Yeah, no, there's no, so you know, well, you know,

so we're, we know, we know, he's not, he said, so, so, but I'm

about me about my brother, to be sure, so, you know, so, you see,

in those moments, you've, this, the cause medical, yeah, and more than,

in an hospital of puros these, imagine it, infantile. No, it's so. So, it was a

really, a tristesse in the place in the place you. And, and of what he said,

I, of what said, I'm to take a more more in-serio. All, all, more in-serie.

For the, as, uh, a-huh, uh, sometimes we do things, we know,

um, and, so, and, but, and, but, we'd be a

mother, we're, If we'd, we'd have a santa murder and we'd have, yeah, yeah. No, no. So, if, if we'd look, what we'd, no, we'd want to look. And, after, like, a year, me accompanied my brother to paint a house. And the house was full of figures,

of, of pentagramas, of symbols, of, all of that. So, then I was, then I was a person that I know. And I said, oh, yeah, so, so. and yeah me you know, you know,

this to take it so it's the work, if you're going to do you're going to see things and you

let's go and we're going those we're we said, so we then we did, then we did we did it

you know, you know, you know, all right to be- and we're we're doing and we're

because you know you know you're that you you're trying? Yeah. But it

was a but it because we're when we're a house where they were to rent a one of

no, no no's imagine what they're there. Right, right over the and it's

it's a tethrico. It's more I didn't want I didn't want to take photos of the house as

was to the lady because I said where where they're where they're to be to someone they're going

to take to take to represalia with one and you never knew of the

duke who I knew earlier earlier there? No, you what

that was the doones were in the United Ah, okay it was a house

of Infonavit then to me me told the woman that he ran to me said

no it's no it I did with them for a big my they said

they're they're they're in renta so the house so the

house so so I think the person who went

to they said that was all raionia graffiteedia.

So, he said, Graffiteada. No, man, what is graffiti? And I feel that was a house that, like the

newons were in the States United, I was abandoned. Yes. And so, and so, then,

then to do, to start of there, well, all more care, always,

taking precaution, always ever-er- about. And, and, and,

you know, that you totally reason, completely, see that precisely we're talking to this con Omar

of those cases in the energy that there in different places and I I'm in my

case we're we're doing my mom like she was a burghiria constantly

we're we're moving you know because there was a because there was a accumulation of very

depending on the community of day, in that place we're very little living because the

accumulation of energies were very very strong. And so so that's what you see what I

did it. My mom no, not, I didn't paint a pentagrams or something.

She had worked with the Santa Morte. But when they're they're

because they they're with the devil. See? Imagine how it was the

accumulation of energy that a a the my mom for the question of

that she she said that for the question of the energy that she managed that she was

and you know, and you know what so I have investigated that have been

to be with the thing that that's when you're you're not

that you're doing that are in your contra or when you

endierran or when they put in certain of the famous photographs

about the founts of the Fountess of Calor. So, she said that it was for the Brugheria. She was, she was going to go to the side of the

cellar, and has to tell you know, that the place the cellion more grand was just in the entrance of the house.

So, so if it was a much free, she had to go to the front of the way and back and

then it and circuled the air. Then, apart of that she had fumable. Then,

then circuled the air, she sent to And I remember that the part in the front of the inferect, vivied a friend, that yeah felled. And this, in the

madrugas, he put to take to some cigarrittos also in the balcony. So, it was up to the balcony, so he put in the right,

and then we know, we know, we know, he was he because he was shifland, he, he was,

he was, yeah, he was, because it was very very, this man. So,

then, a in plain madrugada. Oh, that's with a cigar and so,

so, so, interactuaged. And when I was there, my mom also made to say,

I'm going to get a man, yeah, so, so, then we came out of

house, we went to live to Flamigos, to San Miguel. Resulted that this

much kind of he, no, sop that we knew that we

didn't that, and this was that, so my brother,

eh, that I'm going to my mom. There's the energy yeah, see the,

she, the, I know, how it was, you know, because I was, because I,

I was, the brazita of the cigar to, the cigar, and I said, but this time,

when he was, I was, I'm a lot, I, he said, then, then,

when he's he, he, this, he, he, he, he said,

oh, he, he, Yeah, it was a sustle. So, that's what we're talking about, we're in the accumulation of energy in the places. Or,

yeah, no, no, we know, look, I'm, I'm a point of view that I'm, that's,

that was there, to damage to the new, to the new, the, real, yeah, because the only that my mom

in these places were in those places were in the work, and, negroes, never is in the

house. But also it was so that's real. Another case that's that's the

same also me it's a very interesting. Resulted that that's that they

had solicited a service for for the service of medical

pre-hospital of ambulances and of policeia because according that there was

a person there a person in the house a It was a sea. But the house, as a wonder that they saw them around for the

window, and there were a pentagrama for all the piece, all the piece. And the pentagram was around by a circle of salt. When they're surrounded by circles of salt, it's because they're containing a

into it. As a second, that is the function of the sewers, of the symbols rare, that also, that also, they're to sell them for cellar portals. The salt has a function very similar. So, that the police, nobody

was to enter, he, they said, no, they're doing a ritual, this,

and the person erida or or a manned at the middle. Okay. And that the police said,

ah, no, man, man, what fear? That's a window, the window. Something

moved, the pentagrama, of the circle of salt, and so how it came, it,

came, that's, that's that's, yeah, so, so, so,

so, so, so, no, for to start. No, he was nothing to respect. No, he put to think in

the consequences. And that after this, he had sequels. I don't know if they were possessions or something. What's like, what you know, no... No, you know, you know, know, you know, it's,

it's... Pasa nothing, but when you start to... You're going to... ...you're going to be able a little to the eyes, I feel that's in the you know that you're

that you're going to do that you can't to play or say and is that there you go, or so, one says what you know, so one does what has lived. Yeah, sure, her perspective.

But as, for example, look, this, it was to be, you you're going to see, when we're talking with the Galvan. Yeah, we're we're saying,

we're doing, and all the doctor, yeah, what did when we were the Santa Morty? No, you know, didn't know, that's, pardon

for the words, that mama, that's a manada of the thing, and that's, so, no,

doesn't we're trying we're but if did that but if I did that yeah

not of not of because creme that the image like no like

no no it's like it's demoniac it's a it's a you're gonna you're gonna

you can't you know that you do you do that's that's attack it is that's

attack and you're attacking a something, you're you're not, and that's important, that's respect, exactly.

And you have to when I'm I'm saying, let me, calm, you, so it's that

one thing is, that not is that you're to know, because you creed in something, and other thing is

that you start to respect. Like, for example, I do many, I do much

publications about the thing, and the people, no, uh, I mean me

I like that they're about why they they consider a matter yeah

sure so that they're exactly exactly so you know you know you know you know

that's this erring this what are what are they're they're they're

their arguments but there people that get people that get to that's

respect to that I mean me have much that question because a

Like you say, you know, we're all right to talk of this, no? Yeah.

So, there's people who have asked you know, you think, you're

in the Santa death, so, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm not

so, of the Santa Morte. That no create is other thing, no?

Yeah. So, taking those parentheses. Uh-huh. I say,

I'm, I'm a entity. As, as the life, is the life, is the

life. Yes. because I don't I can't assure that that all live but so that

so I'm so so I'm so I'm so so I'm never met in debates

of that is that is very complicated much people many people say but the fact

it's the same to the same for you another for you for you cabos

yeah you're you're they're You're still without respect, without, without, see,

see, precisely with other colleagues, we're talking about the thing of the facts of respect, like,

for example, there are factions of the church that have all my respect, I have people who are Christians

who are those, yes, yeah, yeah, people, people, people,

but there are some factions of the church, of their church, that's the

images Catholic, if you have seen, so, that they destroy, that the

Virgin of Guadalupe, that all the others. Exactly. That they're like an idolatria. So, so, for what? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's all that it's, it's, it's good, in your scripture, say that are

an idolat, but, but for why don't know, and is that, me, I, you, I want to think this, at the, of the more, here, this, people differ with me, people, well, it's, well, it's, but I'm but I don't exist any idolatries. I mean, I don't

I'm a devotee or not I think in that's simply I decide to who I think he

exactly can't be a person a person physical can be whatever

can be the for who can't and for who can't there's there's

a lot that's fanatica, has I'm not to say oh yeah oh you

you're your figure your pinches santo or the Nothing, you want to

You know, and the same, there's a I mean, like you know, people who do

think of a repent in Christianism, others who are atheists, others who think in the Santa

Mewartre, is that this, no, I see, I'm not sure, I'm not attention,

because for something they're in their arguments, no, and they're very validos.

But I my faith is my faith. Yeah. And they don't they, they don't move to

over or to because is in what I think, I think if I decide

to change of faith, then it's to go to do you. Well, the important are the

actus. I've said a lot of many times. But, but no, I think

I don't know again, because the people, I know how the people, but, but it's

very interesting to all what you have been that you're not thinking that's people,

you're just, is that I think you, well, the people, well, the people,

and in the desmad, and cotorriador and all this, and as you,

I preferrier to read me of the things because I'm really, literally I, pardon me to say, I'm cagot

of the fear, I'm sorry, you've got to you, I'm here, I'm, why, because I'm a

I'm a quarter of those times what was very bad, how we've lived and I'm trying to do

the pass a little I'm I'm not I'm think what have done what they're

we're doing we're we're not we're not we did with the afan someone. Well, it was

that. Simply it was a casuality. A bad casuality for both parts. See, right, that we've to come to

the time, that's cruel, no. Ni- difficult. So, no, I don't,

I don't, I don't, I don't, I never see, and I hope that never had done my moma,

but I never saw that, he would that would have to have been with,

to lastiming to be, they're in the kids. Is that I feel, as we're saying, no, for all, there's people. So, I see. I feel that the, the fact of, yeah, a

infante, where you know, because they don't have any maldard. Yeah. They're innocent. See, one of what I remember. When we we lived in San Miguel, my mom was very free, so, very

dula, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, to mal and the people, a We're going to see us to transport public, a, a convi. Uh-huh. So, my

brother, the more little, now he's, like, 15 years. In those times, he had like a year, more or less. He's a

a senior, a, a, and that he's a baby, so he's so so,

and he's he, and he he said, and my mom, he said, mother the mrs. yeah you

you, you're just you're gonna yeah she was she was she was she was full of the

she was me me me gave a and you and you have to that the the change in the the

I was I was I was totally so totally like it was she was she was she was a

little So, when we We got us We got to the commie I asked to my mom Ma,

why you did that you're not you're not I'm sorry I'm not what I'm

you know what I'm saying she she she she said she she was she was like two

and the four children he gave I'm but how you know you know

you know me say no me don't you do I

know I and then so, me he's thinking, me he's

that a most the woman participed in things of, also, of things of the

or at the way, or at the she, yeah, she, she was, she was,

so, so, so, so, imagineate, that, that's, yeah,

it's, it's, not, right, no, but right, but in the moment,

no, no, but I'm, no, but I'm, no, I'm, I'm,

, almost 15 years, more or less or not past that. Look, I don't remember yeah of that we're talking

about the thing of the little, but if it's something that's a really cruel that that's

also, so, see, one thing is with other things, like you say, with you

say, so, you're saying, and then's, I'm saying, and I'm there's a other case, no,

there's my wife, my wife, my wife, my says, is that you have,

you have a monster of the I know. Uh-huh. Because, because, well, there's

the taza, literally the carlina of the bathroom, then, it's past, and always I'm I'm, and I'm

I'm, I'm say, I'm know, I'm and I'm you know, I'm you know, that you know, but I've seen

that they're that's recargan. In, in the cartina, I see, I'm, so, I'm just, I'm,

standing in the bayon, well, you, you know, you know, you're things,

on a lotit, this, you, you, they're because you don't you say,

no, no, come to come to come to come. Baja the assotone of a repent,

if you're in a sotone, there's aughton, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, that's all, I'm just,

I'm just, and I'm gonna go to, let me get, to the car, it's the same where I'm

the same, but in the building, I live in a second piece, then there's there's the

problem, I said, I've, this friend that me, that's, this, is a very good person. He has a work for his, uh-huh. This, me has helped much in, in these... Adventuras, let's say, no?

Me, I know, maybe you'll get me to the program. Yeah, well, if acced, me'll try. Yeah, no, very good person. This, and he said, oh, apenas, yeah, they're, they're, even getting, and I said, because? If I were, me they were, they're with that. Or,

of a way, he passed out of the house because of a little we've been a cubita,

a, a refreshquito, no. Me said, look, what's what what's going here?

Parate here. No, but what's what's what? Is that a portal?

Or, a portal of what? In what you did you? Referentiment to what

you're referring to what you're saying, no so. But here is all

all the all the we're not going to let's do a liberation and liberates with fire, with a

vellator, I think it was a bellator and we've and we've seen and all we've seen in my

life, I'd come as I'd like a encampre. To start some to get to see,

and I say, and this, what's here there's what's what's just what's

what's you're just you're you're just you're just now you're what you're No, it's that's that with you,

you know, there's a problem there, no pass nothing. But, figure it, after the

work, to do you know, to do you get to be a past of a sacerdote. And in the same plattics,

I said, I said, you know, you know, you know, is that you have to buy a

a Christo and bitito and coldartel and it. Because what to you pass, yeah,

yeah, you know, not, not, not, not, not normal. he go, no, but in what

I'm going to help? You're going to protect. It's going to do like to be to do you want to put it down to your armada, but, but, of preference

cargall. And I had one that they brought from the house to gettani. Oh. One bendito, and that's

one, very very strong. And I remember that me said the Padre, this, the day that

that you don't get to come from to your house. Because no, no not, no you know, and I remember that...

Dekere the Christo? It was, like, it was, it was, but the Christo, literally, then, so, the figure human, was, was. It was a, yeah, was it, yeah, it was, and it was I, no, I found it. Then, my son-

my son-in-a-one, a... a... A. ...an... ...a-one... Yeah. And, and,

and, and the days that were me broke, me passed, things terrible. Uh, no,

I'm, I'm, I'm, but, but, but, but, I said,

well, this father had a reason in, in, in, in, in,

that's, and, and I never, but, I've been, but, I've been,

or, no, or, so, and, and, and, and,

and, and, and, I, I, I, that if it has to be something. So, so, it's

symbols protectors. And, fiendt that we're Catholics, well, the prudent are the Christos, but there are persons that use in other religions that, for the Catholics are they're saying sects,

are... So, are, this, can say that are talismans, or are figures, that can't be pentagrams, but not are pentagrams, but not are pentagrams. Are you? Some images with

they're still. If they're so they've seen, that's protectors. So, or, for example, in other religions that use, some, those Buddhists, they're little, they're some Hindus, also,

some representations of their gods. Yes, yes. No, or so, all, they have an energy special protector, not only only of the Christos, but let me say that that, too,

that also, we're there with the people with those people with which I've practiced, that also, that's used for not to protect no for things negative in serious

if you had you have you heard of that no yes yes it's rare no so is rare no so is rare but does the count that what you said the

images religious have a special uh... aura or an this an energy in many words

very special so all these these can be used to be used as for things good as as for

things malas and for there we're talking of what are the Sanjudas. Ultimately is the moda. Yes, yes. So, you know, for

what they're they're using? Sanjudas. I, I remember that it was like to for the work, no, or something.

Uh-huh. Well, that's, that's, that's, that's, to go, that's, to go.

In the actuality, I'm going to the word, but the narcos do you know, they're also. Yes,

the image. And, of the fact, the way about the that in the in the church of Sanjuda I don't remember

if it's in Guantua or where is if you go to the festival you know you know the quantity of

the amount of these people so that you think that's that they use a symbol referent to know what

yeah to be a see a mann't let me the manita because we're going

to come to the groupito of the that here not doesn't

yeah yeah So, then they can use so they're not to be good

and that's like a story of a man who did a little bit of a major but fiatte

that's curious he put the work and then after the story for you listen

he was he he was artesan he was he was he was

he was very well with his abuel he he's three

Christos and the three those those He was a little bit of magic Negr.

So, the three I'll give one for his abuela, one for her mom, and one for his mom and her mother and her mother and her were very

bad. That's the reality. No, that's like a vengeance. And her and her and his

abuela, then he to his abuel. So the woman, then the she, he, he,

took a life a lot but, his papas fallacies but it was because he put a work a into the

or like for example that he made a homo a gomene she knows about questions of angels and demons me about the case

of her a house of her a christ a christ great as a very old

was he was he was he came so that he's a so that is a

A Christ. Difficit. So, that, that you hear you. That's, so, you think in the worst. So, then,

so, she, she, about, me, about me, about much about, about that a family,

that was a person, that he got, to get, that's a question, and they're, they're in

something, that has to be with with a good, so, so, so,

so, and there, and there, there's, like, for example, my case,

that was when I my also I've also I've talked many many my santa

death solita it's preendio and me quem the man but it's difficult

not, I mean to manipulate things, you pass things and then then then I'm like,

it's difficult to do you do you do you do that yeah if you know if I

remember that one I remember to many to mener some tiliches of the

casas or so as I'm the remodelations Well, there was There was a person that was devota Yeah

So, So, he We know, No, No, No, No, No,

because no They're, And it's Like, So, well, Like,

we're, We're, We're, So, And, we're, And we had to

have to have the job, And then you To have to put it To be To put it

To put it, to Pinter, because to be to be So, and

he was And, and, but, and, to be left all barrotied. So, so, there I, I'll, I'll, I'll just waltas. And I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, and if, my, my, my, man, you let's talk-ed. I go, well,

with a sabaena, I'll take. Ah, no, all right. But, well, I don't know to that you'd, so, no. But, there, mamuncillo? Yeah, a little, but... What, but... What was? Do you remember, that? I remember that it was roha. Ah, nah. Well, I can't use for any other things, but... No, the majority of

the people they use only for for veneration. Yes, no, because I've seen rojas,

I've seen in some some of the houses asules. So, then I've seen,

of other colors, no, not more like that was, the color is. The colors. And you know,

because I got over of a motor, very like to be a lot of my way.

Oh, for so I'm I'm I'm thank you thank you much

for having me accompanied in the episode. Oh, thanks to

for invite me. No, because I'm to start to tell those stories with those. Oh, oh, so much, it's a lot. Yeah, look, before to terminate, let's talk about, when you went, when you went, it's, he's going to, it's like, like, it's like a blooper. Yeah, yeah.

Empeze rolling, no, this, when I was in the secondary, me, he said, ah, the spouse of our friend, that, or so, someone that we know we know, so, yeah, this, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, She was in a generation and adivina that They've got To figure To the Uiha And of all

Those who She's playing To the Uiha She'd She desmayo No, I know what She was in

She was So, I was talking Yeah, I was Yeah, I'm Sobara So I'm So much

And so Mad And even And so much And so And so Yeah, Yeah,

Yeah, so And so And then And then And then I And I said, And I guess That's

I said, I was like, that's posseida and that's and then then I mean yeah, but I'm sorry

it was it was but it was but it's but what that's that's that's

no well I thought you that I'm saying that I'm to say that I'm a

binked diablo a cabro yeah a posseia and

they're they're they're yeah we're no we're with a

just just all, for all, for us, it's not, it's different. But, well, you know, I'm very much,

I'm sure that's a lot of my company, you're again, I'm just, I'm, but, oh'all, well,

we'll find, we'll get, and see, you know, if you've been, to be there, for there? Yeah,

as, I don't think, I'm no, I'm afraid that can't do you, what the, the more is that the time

that's the person, it's, you know, that a minute, is that a person, for the same. Or so, in the

actuality, nothing's that here the place, no, no, they're so. So, then me those encountered in the street and I said, look, man, because they've been told me said that they've said, that's they've said, I mean,

don't know, no, don't they're just, they're on the shampoo, that they're doing, let me grab, let me, let me grab, there, have to ask them, what are,

and, and, he says, the spouse of my my friend, no, man, you, just, just,

just, they're not going to al-Borotar the cause, you know, you're going, and we're going to we're going to be the problem. Yeah, the same

what you do you. No, and, look, I mean me passed similar with this friend that I said, he said, is that we're going to

do this, and he says, and do you, and I'm going to carry, and it does it, because I, well, I'm,

because I, well, I'm, it's just, but, you know, no, man, I'm saying, that you're going to

do you're, you're going to be going to get to be and they're demon, and other. So, there's just doing malabar, there. There, no, no, no-mall they're going to. But, no,

with all respect to that. Yeah. Well, now, now we'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah, Scott. Yeah, but well, you're glad you. For having acceded here, for having acceded to come back to your friend, the, the... Yeah, yeah. The, he does it

all the things. Well, yeah, yeah. The whole, to all those that are stills, to last time. To be really, I'm glad you. I'm sorry, in the next episode, in the martes of the next week. Sin more,

after after after his friend Nazareth. We're We're going.