Más allá del miedo Podcast - 12 | ORGEN LAVEY | EL Verdadero SATANISMO y PACTOS con el DIABLO... En Contra de la HIPOCRESÍA

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Declaraciones difíciles de creer sobre la realidad del Satanismo, invitado ORGEN LAVEY. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

That one day you get to your kitchen and you see a group of ormigas doing a circle perfect. For that's we have to

learn the language sagas and you say, Oh, Grand Nazareth, God

of all the omigas and we were created under your image and semehance. And what

they're going to ask? What can be? Aormigua that's important so. So,

you know, because no it costs nothing. There's to try and have to invocals

the 72 entities. Yes. because you know you know you have to

have to do you have to be a job for you know that the time to

call your attention and then talk and then to know of your talk about that'ser the fact of you

the broudering a case of a company that I hope you He begins to say, you know, I want to what I'm going to

do you know, I'm to put a problem, I'm going to go to go to get and you

go to you with your hands in the panteon. No? No, I'm no, I don't, I'm

said, is that you know, nobody can do do this nobody can do dogeria for someone more.

Because you do you can't with all the but I can't project your odio

I have to feel you. Starot. Yes. Because Astarot wanted an

alma that no serve for nothing. An arm that has a child that has

an alma that has been a for that would be the right the right. The right

the right you have to get to you know. Salas and and welcome Amantes of the

new chapter of the more about the new chapter of the most from Jesus of Nazareth

Martines in this occasion our people we're to talk to be

a person that I'm a conversation a very interesting in this occasion

we're with the Vey how you how you how you

know how you But, without, the theme paranormal, the theme of religions, is a thing a lot of a lot of times. All those times that you

manageas are things quite interesting. Some things quite important for me. You, during a time, you did you've been to desemascarer to charlatans.

Of course, that was my first acercement in the media. Yes. I know I know your audience

is very so I'm so I'm know they're but there in 1990 in the 90 93

94 there was a program of television very famous here that started to manage

those things as a meeting the program of you you know

you what you think I'm where they're where the group

of the sects the society Mexican for the investigation

eseptica and for the other other other those who had

their experiences and they were in their products and they were in discussions very interesting.

Of the fact, that was the first program to the that was invited to

him with I know and basically I was I was in the postura of the eseptico

crey or of the creyente or of because he had all

what was the bagger of information that was has it's a factor so

the esceptics and those that's the publicing and what he's

a lot of the people that's the that's the knowledge

that's so they're that they does it doesn't they doesn't

when the police when the police they're to get to know

for when a person when a person who a charlatan a

some tramposo is much better to get to someone who know these trampas for not

be in so I'm that I'm that advantage I'm know. Tristently after the

septics only are just they do you do you get to get that I'm in my

studies I think there are certain there's still still don't know that someone

want to To be the car or that anyone Wierre Lucrard of With those things. For I'm

Maintaingo the postura, you know, a 99% of the people who are the situations

esotericas are challatans Do how a person could be that one of these people are playing

with their emotions are trying to only to get them money. Then is what is the

word clave, Diner if Something very, very strange is there. There are three premises basic.

One, if it's a much to do it, take care. If they're they're in money or

they're to pay them to do what they're offering. Yeah, you know, the same, the textures

of the car, the scriptures of your house, although a sometimes they're

a way, it's a manipulation psychological, very interesting. Okay? They're not I don't

I don't do anything, but the job, I have to buy things. For the work,

you have to do what you're doing to receive. And at final, they're

to get a much people and the third. And the third, if they're

they're they're a 100 of effectivity in what they're in

these things, it's has to have to work without a

guarantee. So, that's the problem. But basically if they they're in something,

duden, doden much. You think that if there are a force special for the manage of energies,

or persons that are really bruchas or bruchos reales? Is that exist in two types of persons.

Well, more, but basically what you're going to find in the majority of the cases is

the genio idiot or the sabio impotent. The genio idiot is a person with talent. It's a person that can

do things but no know that can. And the sabio impotent is the that's the he has read

much and know he can't do great thing. Okay. And very rare those

are garbanzos of the Libra. You're going and you can't be and you know, what

what the what is that are things very complex so. If you just right we're

about what is a require to be to be to know to be to do

this not is doing a book or this, taking a course me

me explain, many people say that they're the don't as the children.

Yes, the children are very very very very but

that they're so that they're so people, they're people,

they're people, are people, are men, so, so,

so, that is basically the problem. Some Some just They're in a

book Or they're Or they're Aferrated A single A book And if you Certainly

There are There are But there But it's Require Much information Lateral To help

The Rompkebeces Of this Verda Scondida Sure Amid There

There There There's There A So Nata That's That

Toman A any type of brucho be good or be a bad or

whatever or ridiculize his his his practices and

always mention the money in these cases they

want money in money in the lot lotteria the

numbers of the fortune the form magic like

so that was something something very very very

let's talk about of the knowledge ancestral we're about the

nipes the those naipes the secretes were created in China and a

caravan of hit and it gave to the country to robators

to 40 cartons of strange proced some some some

that's a famous barage Spanish so so so

It's what you mean. Here are the four desires of the humanity. I'll take a various. Let's be, if you remember, for example,

let's what you're saying, the most basic, the people. The people, when consult a the tarotists, they're going to

ask for money, then they're for fame, or they're and at final they're

for fortune all the all the things what the people want to you can

categorize in these four desires money money and money and fortune

so the so the people the money is the money is the money is the money

only can buy what you can buy do you can't but

but when you don't you it's a necessity basic or at least

you're at least you're you're going to get the lottery they're to solve all those problems

when basically what you not you can't do is the valuable so

let's let's the fame the fame yeah has has been

to work the fame you can't you can't many many

that that's that that's that that they're they're

they they're they're to have to maintain it. So, this

you know this is about a of other, of other intensity in the ser. For being

famous, you have to be a more. And if you get a more, probably the

money will get. Okay. The money also can't buy the love.

The love you want you. The love to do you don't know and it

depends of you do you don't. And the most important

of all the fortune. The fortune is when you have all the anterior and you have effort and you have a work and then a ser superior. You elige. That is the fortune.

The ser superior you elige when you count as with all these qualities. When you count as all the qualities. And when when you have to work over them. There is to work over the four. So,

so So, if the people is moved much for the money, but at final the is the most barato, because

only he's what you can make that's that's part of my work and part of what I intend to

is to stimulate a little to the people to look to their abilities reales. And I

don't I'm talking about abilities occultas. Yes. But the abilities simple, abilities

that they're doing those If we're to money, even the churches,

all the churches want all the churches are money. Sure, but

what is what is the really really God, for example? What do

you imagine that you know, that you think you feel? That you're that you

feel, that you're that's all that you can englob in being better.

More in what you do you do you person, a better a better a

friend, a better, a better. Ser. So, so all

the theories magic us are going to always about the and the way to rest

the the sinned the the penes the possession and it's

a combination of three it's it's fear or the those

the poor that they're in some in the tristess and

the religions are they're they're and the class media

that is aterrata that in a moment a powerful to occur

to quit to get or ira for not have put to do

what I'm so the two the two are the combinations of

these three the three things. How is this is a triangle

it? It's is a contralrereste with the three virtues theological and

faith, But that only is when you're and are manifestations of the love in different

times in the past the past. Okay. The faith. I know that I've

good times I can have to have been to learn. The hope that the

future me de better and I careid that is the love in

the time present is that sensation of plenitude that

is in the the major of the time we think we a bit of we're in

the world we're we're seeing because we need to work that we need to that's

the star that is the staria of that's the right. If you're you're in you're in

you're in no pute to have money or I'm you're in the peccable you can't

you at less that you're at then you So, you have problems of the money?

Do you know, if you do more things, you're going to be more things and they're going

to get to the things. But no there's a formula that's that you have to

do you do you're that is the world. It's a way, but it's charlatans, the charlatans,

the charlatans, they're not to because requires money, requires of the job. He wants to that's a certain

point it requires that, pardon me, that apagin this transmission and they can do what they have to do. And they'll do. And then they'll do. So, me explain. So, so, much they're doing this. Well, that's the

the, the business of all. I mean, you know, you know, you're going to be able to do without a diet. That's the formula magic. And you're not that then,

being delgado, you're to make a love to someone. It's a lot of

they're going to get in this. So, so, to get the money. Or, gain of money

without to work. What more they're doing for there? No, what you want.

Well, what they want, they're doing do they do, without without, and at the only thing is that

they're just that the formula is very easy. What do you You want. If you know exactly what you

and you start to work for so the things are you're for so that the

law of the attraction don't have because they're like people who say they're like they're

very good I'm very very well I'm very very well I'm I'm that I'm

that I make you make I'm that I'm a car in a camisettas because

because not is the intensity of the desire a moment not the intensity

of what you is constance in that desire. What you're doing for obtain exactly, not just

care, abortate of the four words magical, what are you? Kere, know,

to be able to and guard silence, and call it. Okay. If you you know, you know what

you're, and you atreves to work for it, and not you don't know you know,

eventually you get us. Yes, because you don't have to have obstacles. Exactly.

But much They just think in money for example. Why the law of the

attraction not serve? Because then they visualized with

fashos of in the hand. And they're working in a

bank of the carer with they're not. But no

they they're not. I'm me me I'm me.

I'm so, but if the money, then it's a thing, he's to try

to work for that something. And the money will get to do you

do you can't do of all these things, amygo, it's there's many,

there's a lot of fantastical where it's a deities or a other

plans that can facilitate to obtain to obtain money, bienes material, this

this, this, love of people that were unacensable for you. Sin

definition very interesting about how is or a posture of how could be the way to be a an entity of these plans where you mention a series

little, peñitutes that are certain figures to call the attention of these entities that for us can be entities enormous and you compare to the human with ormigas

That posture is interesting What is, what is we're doing, we're, we're, we're in

plans of existence different. Yes. We'll let's be angels, demonious,

uh, beings, beings that we can't understand. Yes. It's equivalent to a pollo

that can't comprehend a grangeros. Yeah. So, the poeos in what consists his life?

In, to come all the day and do the day, and the gallinas,

put eggs, and it's a whole and the only fin that's

they're in the life these they're to be to

the grander. So, many think that the contact with

these superiors is very, Ospensky talked much of the

imagination. Many they're in a book, they're symbols strange,

and just just for them they imagine they they

can't, then the The work of Goetia, which is what I describe in that clip,

or the demonology or the goesia, which is the contact with demons or the superiors. Goesia. Goesia.

It is equivalent to that one day you get to your kitchen and you see a group of ormigas making a

a circle perfect. That would that would your attention. Sure. So, then you

put you to see, to see, the day the day the next you see the

second you do you a triangle a form that you recognize that you recognize that's

that's not a pattern aleatorio yeah the ormigas are trying to your attention

me I'm so so and then a day of many of

you get a circle and one of one of the one of

the imagine to the number imagineate the number to make

toning your name. That you know and that you know that you understand.

For that's the language sagrados. Right. To learn the the language of the angels.

Yes. Because you you're not to be able to let them to tell you don't you don't you

want to you know, you know, you know, imagineate the effort of an or imagineate the

man, and you say, O grand Nazareth, God of all the formigas,

that your image and semehanza. We've done a circle with crystals and now you're captured and you can't get to

what you think you'd be a curiosity or so as as the anecdote perfect to go to goate to get to

see what they're doing what they're doing these ormigas and what they're going to what can ask you?

What can't a termination? A tase of a sugar? A cajorn for a Ormiguer? Tier.

Tierra. So, because it doesn't cost nothing. In this plan of existence,

no cost nothing to give to a family of poyos to doormant little. What the

is that sometimes the or things terrible or things that not can't control.

One ormig can say, I'm that's another omission that I'm that I'm

know that so, and then how does that so? Then, then you You can't

you make them two ormigas and they're just two ormigas and then the ormigas aterrata

what is what I'm doing. That's that's the same is the work with the gobecer so I can't

have much care of what one of the one of people because one I'm going to get to all to

get to exactly another again. The love the love no

no we're not we're we're we're we're other thing. So,

all the work of the goessia is the the the clavicle of Salomon.

What is the clavicle of Salomon? The clavicle of Salomone is the clave minor of Salomon.

And it's a compendio with 72 genios, spiritos, demonios, angels,

as you want you call them. And they are described his abilities, what you

are you to offer to the hour and in where where you can't conjure

his firm, his name and the characteristics. The work of the OSC is a job

daily and is a annual. It is there is to work and have to invocated

to the 72 entities because you know you know you can make sure

to the example of the Ormigas. We're to suppose that you

go to work at your office in seven of the morning to 8 of the night and the ormigas

are doing their circle at the 12 of the day you're going to never then never so.

So, then I'm to do that the morning, a sometimes at the day and a

sometimes in the night. Ah, okay. For what? Because when it's there

the being there the can be there. So, there. So,

there have to do a a work previous for what, for that

the question the that's on the time of your case, that is the work

final of the magic ceremonial. It's to get in contact with the

God that's over your head or the demonio that's on your

head. So, to call your attention and then then talk conversation

with him. Or, as, as it's to know the saint angel

guardian, and communication with him. Okay. Now me explain why nobody can do you.

This level of effort and of the work, not is to give to give someone, or it's to

sell it to somebody. No, there is money that is this effort.

It's something. It's personal. It's sense that it is a

kind of this type of cults, you know invocations, invocations, evocations, is they have to

personally there are people who are people that are people that are people that are in groups but much

have coincididded in that is something personal. It's real? It's real? If not, so much, how many people? That's what do you think, that's there, many people, minimum 100 multivillionaries new

this year where are nobody nobody knows here what happens there are so there

two two things and I learned I learned with the group deceptics

the the truth is when someone desperated is disposed to

give the factura to the the factura or the or the

scriptura of your person to someone that And he And he's, the

the, the, the, the, the, he's, because he's

stupid, he's, how I'm to get in the hands of this. Homillated. Humillated.

So, it's of the few crimes that no say, because for denunciate that I'm

to admit that they have to say, but there many, I mean, I'm

I'm going to your I'm sure you have been stafas with one that they are there

are there are there are there to be many many are many many

because because because they're there are four elements

to to be to be to the work the first

is justification if you are you are looking

again again don't make another again again the

work the your name. It's an effort major. So, if you have goted

all those possibilities human, you don't have a demonia. And this is is linked

directly with the second, which is the emotion. When you do dohers, you have

to do it's to do you have been desperate desperated. Your situation

should be to, to, to, they're in the ser of

the and that's what you see. When you're exorcism and project

the circle, in the triangle of projection, you know, you're that's the only

way of that's the only way to have done to be doing, require you know,

requires to know what you're doing, requires to know the ritual completely. If you know,

Because then you're going to say the name of the Ser Superior. Not you're going to or what symbols specific you have to do for that you know, for that they're

to do. To do that. So, what you need. And between those symbols is the symbol of the demonio that you're going to

invoke. And the element that requires this demon, and the hour in the way in the place in the place in the

place, and the And the ultimate is value. Because you are to confrontal the infirm.

You're going to confront to the abyss. I don't I want to to be able to get to the abysm

to you go to you're going to be a comparated if you're the ormigate the time

of the same thing you can't you're going to you're you're trying to you're you're

that's right there's no there so you want to you're that's four

because it is that so I don't, I don't, I'm doing that I'm

for nobody. Yes. Because it's personal. It has it's much sense the

to do all the humanly possible for obtain, even the money. What that.

What what is. But me it's a question a money. Because

I'm not the money. Because it's what you're it's possible that you can make you

do it money, I mean, how can you say that can't sanar a people,

but not you know the numbers of the lottery, but it's a person that not has

done a humana or inhuman possible for obtain that he want to certainly

we're we're really in a reality in the which a title that you

don't you're the money where you where you diversified

those abilities and your activities to generate. Okay. So, you have to

do, we have to learn different languages. After 30 years, the important was to learn

English. Today you have to know Chinese. Yes. Why? Because the the

newgoes are to the new things are there are there. Those that are

that are doing the money. Yes. But what how abilities? Gurdjief

said, I don't could play with you a less that you know, that's

a pair of botas. So, so of mundano and so of reales. Yeah. Abilities.

What abilities have? Mets. Trimates have more possibilities you have. You know,

you know, more options. But in the actuality, the level of specialization that some have those

have been managing a taxi. Okay? Yeah. And even managing the taxi they're more and they

have more money. Sure. But all those those that are, they're

sitting in the cameras, whence the panza. Or, mandating a commentary, nothing more, or a message. Or, or, looking a brucho that he solution the life. So, then then. So, there's to have to have value. Because if you know these four, another

other simil is, what I think I? Let's make you. Thinks that the pacto and the idea of vendar the alma is possible. Now, let's talk about the of Astarot. Yeah.

Because Astarot a one that's a lot, an arm that's right. An arm that

has worked. A soul that has a power for what that would that is the

right. So, think's it thinkerl so, thinkerl your own your own

that's that's that you have said that you have been value and that

you can you can't You can't just to Again, the MEDO of the PECAD That's a rata When the truth is that the

You have to gain The right To get it, you have to earn Then you It's a lot of The time, and during the The long of the

money is the most Baratow Yeah Famer, Famer, and fortune Yeah And the The job

Is it's To have the Fortuna of That you To make Cases, Now, what What does

Ritual? When that's a ritual, you have confronted to three, well, I've confronted to three possibilities. One, that during the ritual, suede in things very impactant, that's, that's a car that a book, that's a caroer, that's hollings, that there's movement, that there's a chaos total in the moment. But then, no, there's no, no, there's change posterior. The manifestation is very, is very strong emotionally in that moment,

but no suede nothing after the second. and the second is that not during the ritual. And the day

next or two days after, they're there coincidences significative that you are real things.

For example, you know, that's the ritual? I need to to solve this problem. And for that I need to

find the person indicated. No no, during the ritual. No. There was

projection. No. communication no no one so that my ritual and the time

I'm a first of the day of a time I'm in the corner I'm know the

person that gave the opportunity to see the in the carmending in Veracruz yeah

so Alfred Dame was in the Mexico I did my work in

I'm and for the life and for the place to go back

to the city of the city of the Xxo because they were grabbing in the

street. And I know I all and I said, I'm going to go and the city of

Mexico. We're going to work. At the two days, my malettes were in

back at the city of Mexico, and I started at every day, three hours can't

four. So, something you know, was a form magic, extraordinary.

No? Some coincidences significant These. Coincidences significant that's

so it's a magic. So, it's magic. Okay. And the The third is when you can't talk about a conversation

with what you invoked. When it's present in the triangle of projection and after the exorcism, you know, you can't you can't understand. So, or you're in direct there, and it comes a conversation. There's to have much

careful with that conversation. Okay? Because the demons are equal to flojus than us. So, I don't know, no, I can cede. Because then, you're you go to the conversation and not they're not

that's a and the other is, after the other is, to start to have information at the time but the

only form of know is when you know, is when you're when you're a different to get a diary and those

are the famous grimurios. Yes. So, I don't see if you are getting many,

but the work magical at final no, it goes to the same, but

when librito, it says, ah, those the dreams you

say things. And when a grimor real is where you can't documenter

all your work. This is the grimory that I did. Of your work.

Of my work. So the book of the Soh here is all

described what is the ritual. So, so it's two books. The

book with the theory the book one and the book two and here there are

all the encantamations here is all the there's all the symbols but for

this? Because after this after the after the two I'm I'm going to

work specifically with some of them I don't have to have to do you

so so so so so so it's two books the theory

and the practice the Grimorios are difficult to get an organ. There are grimoios famous and easy access. Libre is San Sipriano is one

and the clavicle of Salmon is the other. They're very fastening. The third is relatively easy to get the Grimori Verum of the Papa Honorio. But, we're just those

manuals general. Other way. You're with the 72 genios of Salomon or the 72 spirits of Salomon. you're

with the 72 and if one does you know, you know you're doing you know, I'm

me I'm you know you need to call to the 72 you did your work pre-in

so you know you you know you know so I'm so so but yeah

these grimorios are very personal so this I only I have done five copies

of this material and so I've given to people that are

important for me, because you know, no, no, no, it's no, it's to be able to,

this is to give to a person, I don't want to be a slave, and for that you're not,

and for that the evangeles are to be a to becky to know, to be the who you want, someone,

that's, or that's, or that's, or what you can do you do you can do, and the word of

that's, and then it will be a rumored, No, not only that has rumored,

I mean, it's a so, it's it's a bit of a bit of a way, it's

to be a situation of a really desperate and that has been the desire to

and then the only that's put you the direction correct. Yeah. Another

other what is the formula basic? What is? A un- a word.

A-o- no, the point not is, the point is when we're, we're

We've got many force. Yes. Not only that. The people around our that are who are

are the first in destrosar your own. Okay? Are the expression, in lastimar

what you want to say. But is what they're saying. My mom, is that I want to be a footballist.

No, my son, no, my son, no can't be a footballist. No, you've had had been another Hugo Sanchez in

Mexico, that that he wanted was a footballist, he could, because his mom he said that he said, okay?

The people around you do you destroy your dreams. It's and they do all the

love of the world. But is that you have to be in what you want. Only it's all

it's the people that can help, but not you're not you're spending the

other of what you You want. You have to know you. You have to do. Of course.

The brujeria not is for covards, a man. The brugery not for a

covards. We'll talk about the brucho for that he does to do

to my ex-ge to my ex-pareja to who because I don't me atreve to entreated

that situation so I want to do you Aventar the and to be the hand.

Sure. Okay. The brugery is real. Right, we're talking of burglary and

chichceria. But, what's what's what we're we're doing? The time, we don't know

we don't a lot of but we we're just that we're that we're very important for the

other. When to tell those only that one is a family and a newbie.

All the other them are all the other. But we feel like that we're that we're that everyone

wants to make to do that. So, to me have said, in best of just to find me

what is the effort that I'm to do no, sure someone me, me,

me made me made a thing, or me did do you do

do you think so important. Or, no, I don't me to confront

to my enemy and do I do into commies because you eliges

because you elige to the end of the thing is that you're the importance that's the you're taking or you're doing

or they're to make a or you're the way and you're going that was that was the idea

original of the people in the social that they they're they're

to get to get to get to get so but now why

why the people block a people in in the social to be to be able to be

to be able to you. So, so, so, so, so I'm, so that's

in the social, when the blocker is, for you don't me are you don't me

are you distraying so, if I'm to see to see to be a person

that I'm but no, now the people is going to be to see to

see the hate. Yeah. The hate. It's really. The hit abunda.

And I me I mean I love no conflict, but the people blocker to talk about to someone more. The same

happens with the brujeria. I want to do you, but not want to be the responsible of that day.

Yeah, even here I can mention the case of a company that I hope that I

hope I'm that I'm that I say, you know, you know, you know, I'm going

that me He's very well. What I do? And I

put a proof. I'm I'm going to visit you, I'm going to

get a little and you you're going to you with your in the

panteon. No. No. I'm not. I'm not. I go. Is that if you're that's the

I'm going to but that doesn't work. Now, let's of what is the echiceria

and the brugheria in reality. Adelante. There are two forms to work. The lechicerial or the brugheria

the, the case, is that's when you embarren some substance or you, or they're

to do a beverer something. That is of the work direct. So,

there is to have to be with the people. Or the people with the

people who people are in contact. Because those are substances that are

that can can generate a a change in you. And the other type of brogheria is the brugheria for vibration a distance.

It's the famous fetiche when it's a new mecha, for example, and he's put a photographia or some kind of a brand of the victim. But, I mean, it's not so easy to see, eh?

Here, what you require is to have all the certainty and know that this fetish, this fetish, this effigy represent this object of the odio. We'll be it. And then what's

what is that the the brucho has to enfocare all of his odio in this figure. To try to do you and focus it. Deh-lidl in a place. To project it

to the effigia. And then that that can generate for vibration, for the longitude of under Yes. Cambios in the person

represented. I'll put the example more easy. A lot of some of the vibrators, these things

that are in the things that's in the alcalia where I was I was a

little, one day appeared vibrators in a tram that was of a way rapid.

Yes. Those that are like topes. Yes, that are like topes, that's terrible. You're

You got in the coach and then you're not all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay? It was the first time that I did that that that's really, I started. I started to think,

because the only that I could think was in the al-Qaeda, the, and I decided for that I said,

I don't know if you can't say in Bosal. Yeah, yeah. Chinga-to-mother. Chinga-to-mother. All the days I'd pass out there,

and all the days I'd say, chinka-tum-to-mad. And now, Imagineate, all the the people who pass on

for there all the mother to that made to that's a year, he was in the year,

he was bornse to the cargo. Sure, yes, it has a because it's vibration.

Now, I'm talking of the same, in concentration total with a one one one

one single person with all other other other way, nobody can

do you dogeria for someone more. Because you do you can't

odes with all the but I don't project your odio I have to

feel it and the brokeria is an arm of two-fileus the faith is a arm of two filers because

also there to complete the job, all this figure that is cargated with all

my odio during 40 days and 40 nights then I'm then I

go and so I go into the and when when the toky

it he yeah yeah so vibration, we affect our center,

and let him to get him solito. That is the very good energy. That is the

realer to chisceria. Alterer. Then the other, coincidences significat significant

is a end up the stomach or the next after after that or he starts

to dole the head. And what does? The faith is a heart to go to

look to go to do problem of health he says you know, you know,

you know, you know, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to the brain possible, I'm going to do you know,

and I'm going to do a little bit. And, and other again, the limpies have their

value. Sure. Sure, that has, a lot of a lot of your whole, you

know, you know, you know, you work to work emotional, your body intellectual, your

body physical, and you integrate a a good limpia. Not is how you see,

my posture is very septica, but is creient. Sure, yeah. Very interesting.

Why? Because many, many discuss, and they say, no, is that Lucifer

can invoked in America, not is true. No, can invoke in America.

Lucifer no governs in America. And that how is? Or why? For

tradition. another other once your ormigas you can't

you can get to be to be not no no well

no the same so the lucifer govern in

Europe point and that's a fact that not

that all those that they say in a lucifer

they're they mean they're not there In America, government,

and in Africa, government another. And in Mexico, what entity would be? In Mexico, is that

in Mexico, there can be a lot of many of the clavicle of Salumon that's much to

the duendos to the Alushes. To the Aluces. There is a number even in

the clavicle of Salumon. And have the the same characteristics of what the tradition Maya

we talk about the Lush for example. Yes. There's many of the clavicle of Salmond.

I'm so. So, but here in America no you can invoke to Lucifer.

No, it's going to present never, no can't presentar. Because no governs

here, no he's not here, but here he's about he's that's

that exists, no, no, it's It's not. It's a person who has studied tantito, at least it's, that's been able to,

the grimorio, Verum, would have that that vera. What, me do you? The grimorio, Verum.

The Pum. The Pothorio. And the other option is, it's the grimory veradero. And it's part of the

ritual Roman. I mean, they're much of religion, about much of Jesus, about much of them.

Yes. But they But they're To know All the history That's So you know You know,

You know, You know, You know Many other books To understand this Verda of the

Bible? Yes. Requires many texts to understand the Bible. And requires

many texts to understand the Koran. At final, the reality is the same. But if

they're offering a pact with Lucifer here in America, you're looking

the car. I do directly for that that declare.

I'm surprised with that. Very surprised. Never he's never I've

heard. But it's Lucifer Roman, then we could we could we do we

if we were we were a religion with these deities Egyptians that no

exists also here? All the knowledge of the

humanity was made in Africa. Egypt is part important of Africa. Although the secretos surged in the Orient, in China, all the

knowledge of Africa. The Sumerians, the Egyptians, all the tradition African is the origin of the knowledgement. If we're

we're talking about of music, for example, we know, we know that all we're to come to the

tamboures of Africa. Well, all no, we regress to origin.

So, Egypt, the Jocet of Egypt, are two Tot and Orus. Orus is

the soul, and Tot is the word. So, the tarot is the

book of Todd. It's the knowledge. For so it's

about that the Tarot is Egyptian. Ah, that's not because it

is the book of Todd. And Orus is the

is the spirit. So, the origin of the knowledge of the world.

We can't be the other way. It's also a tradition that we have to get to

enter to it to understand what is allegorical and that is real. Yeah.

So, that you can't get to you know, or what you have to understand

to continue coming. The information, all this tradition

is a carabana of a caravan of the catanos that ramific in various

then are the Egyptians are the Magiars that are the the

are the people are the people the Magiaries have the same

information and in France it's there is the first

Tarot that is the Marcella but the information is Egyptian, is ancestral, and before. And, and before, from the Sumerios,

the, the little, the mukeito for a burglary is, is described in nine tablas Sumerias

in Babylonia. The Budu? The Budu. So, what is the Sumerios. Ah, no is African. No, no

is African. Ah. In Babylonia. There are the tablets. And it's how it's the cargues the moke the moke, how it's

all the odio, all the energy, or all the love, because also can be for love. Yes.

This is Babylonia. No is of the Budu's, not it's of the New Orleans, the Budu of New Orleans, nor the

Budu of Haiti. We're going to talk about about the zombie, but that's another theme, no. Yes,

but very, very classic with Haiti. But it can explain and it can't understand. Yes.

when you know the so the first tarot yeah impressed is the Marsella in France

but it's because it's it's a tribe of this tribe to France for the information is the

book of Toad the word so the word and the spirit and this not regress

again to other back the the people the Christians

and the Catholics are much about the The Pecado of a

word and omission Is that when when you think you one thing

you know you do you that's that's that's when you're

when you're congruente is when the word and the spirit are

together then you're you're you're not you're when you

think you you're you're not those three pecates to the other

The only The only The only the only the only the one of the one of

the only is the one of is when you know you know that's the

because you know, if you know, then it's ignorance so you pardon the

the pecate the precarance, to be the uncorience to think to see

and do the same but when you know actuas that is the that is the

thing that's is a lot symbols in your eyes, in your

pecho. These symbols for you what are you what are many? Many

are they put on the be beautiful. Yeah. Okay. I've got to

think that if Jesus Christ had been in the cell electric, all

they're to put down a a little car interesting

never never thought I the amuleto and we

different. Yes. Let us. We're a musketo is a scudo protector. When at

final, the only that you protect is know what you want to work in consequence.

So, try this, is a recordatorio constant of what I have to do my work,

of what I was, and again us, about the congruency. What symbolizes

this? Well, is the pentagram. Yes. It's the representation graphic of the tetragmaton. Which is the word of four letters.

Yes. What is the word of four letters? Jod Heba. Jehovah. Jehovah means what was is and it's the time. It's a concept very difficult to understand.

God has different names. The name is the The name more easy and more basic for everyone is Adonai the Lord.

That is the first concept that we know when we're young. God is a biggit

that's a new and that he observes all the day, to look, and he keeps, and he

and he doesn't. That's the concept more that's the Santa Claus, Papa Noel

is Adonahy the Lord. Another name of God that has another

name of God the the power's creative of God. There are the elementals. The duendos,

the adas, the salamandras, the undinas, the sylphid those elementals. The duendos, the trolls,

all those beings. There are. Elemental. Who took contact with Elemental? Who was

the founder of the Orden Franciscana that could talk with the animals? San Francisco

DiSil. Yeah. He could talk with the animals, could to talk with the naturalness.

He comprehended that level of God. Another name of God is Jehovah. What was, is and it's Ecerra, that is eternity pure, is the time. It's a concept that we can't understand. We can't live,

but not we can't understand. I'm sure that you've lived this moment. I'll tell you how. And another name, that is the yet unalcanceable is Egeyej. I'm what I am,

or I am the who I'm. When Moses He said, Subi to Mount Sinai, and regress with the tables, or, pardon, before that so, and he was with the indication to liberate to the slaves of Egypt, he says, And who's I said, and the voice he contests? I'm what I am. It's another name of God.

The pentagram is the representation basic of that God. To see a river, it's one thing, and down, it means another. Which is above, it means that you're working to desentraignate this mystery, that is the time. And when you can't desentraignate the mystery of the time, then you can't

quit the trage of ignorance. It's what he says, the Carta, The Taro, the loco. The loco has a liston has a, has a cinturon, that symbolizes the time. When you can't get the the cinturon, then you can't

get the cap of ignorance. That's, then. Then we're, the cruiser inverted. that, certainly, Anton Sandoor, LaBei, it adopted for his, his, his work of satanism,

and many churches satanicals do adopt. But this is the representation of Simon, of Pedro. Because Pedro, when he was crucified, he called to be crucified.

A reverse. The case. What symbolizes that? Esforses, conscient, work voluntary I'm sorry,

I'm sorry a effort conscientious, or effort consient of the work voluntary

is the same. Okay. It's the formula magic that us gave the master Jesus.

All the days, you're you know, you're and you do you do you

do you do you do you do you're in what you're in what you do

you have decided that you have decided to you want to and then I

the representation of the seven pecations and the seven virtues. The virtues without those are

not really, let's that are that's not about the zero violence and zero,

zero, uh, new, these, uh, new, masculinities. Ah,

yeah, but it's very, very, very much, uh, and I, and I

don't, no, my merit has, someone who has been been aggressive in your

life, no can't come to say that is a virtue. That's

a cobarity. When the merit real is someone that's a little that's

not to give, or not agreder. That is the virtue. The virtue that's

that's a fact of someone that's someone who can't say that

that's that's that's that's that someone who has someone who

has no can't say that can't say that So it's easy.

The virtues, without no serve. So, is what my symbol me,

me record all the days. I don't me do for interviews, I'm not I'm trying

all the days. And I carry the cross and I'm the symbol. I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm a slave of time, for so that the pentagram

is up up and I do and I'm still the

time. Yeah. That's my pentagon inverted. And, I'm

that all these things that we're of satanism or these things that we've been

mentioning, there's something for me. What are the precepts satanical or the

mandatos satanical, the mandations. The ones of the earth. Many

people people would that are that are things so macabras very, very,

very, very, is to offer a heart is to offer a thing, so things

exaggerated. But I surprised when I saw, how are what are, you can

give us some of information of this. Satanas is the enemy Satanas,

right we're going to this because we're to differentiate between satanas,

the devil and the demons and the the the monos Lusifer

Astrod, Val, Belzeb, all those those, we're going to to differentiate. So, Satan is the adversary, the enemy. The enfoke

of the satanism of Anton Sandoor Labey was precisely going to the hypocrisy of the church Catholic.

Yes. Where was this hypocrisy? He was a pianist a, the organo in the burdell the sabbos in the night. So,

then I saw the domino to all those who were to becae the night at the church of the

church. And that hypocrisy not he was not he was so. So,

then a 30 of the April he was afeit the head and found the

church of Satan and he said the Bible satan and

he He described what are the precepts satanical and the ones are the satanism in the that if you let's, I the most me most me is, no, lastimar as

children, and animals, yes, that's all that for the or in defense property. So,

all these those locoes furious that are that are that are you have to give

the heart or have to sacrifice a virgin or have to lastimary children

don't are satanists are psychopaths are very clear in the 11 reglas of the

satanism of the religion says when another other other

says that if you are you're on terrain abj

no molestes a nobody if someone you do

he and if not do it and if not do it, tratel over the mind and without. The satanism is a sender personal is a work personal.

It's someone that's someone that's another regla is not you know your opinion a less that someone to get. Another regla is

not to take something that not you don't you pertenes a less that the other person,

that be a carg for the other person or that is claming desperately liberate to that

that is is that not robar as not you're are the are the rules

for living in this life so at final the doctrine of the

is a doctrine individualist okay edomista but of respect I

do you I respect I'm I'm I'm I'm to ask you

that you do you do you do you to destroy. Panical satanical that invaded all the media in the States and the rest of the world, in the

70s. The panic satanical. So, the case of the marcos satanical in Mexico, they were satanical. They were santares. But the people who hear Satan and all the what you know understands and all the thing he doesn't, he put the etiquette

satanical. Curious, no? The Christians they're accused to the satanists to use symbols to recognize us into

us. When one we don't we interest that we know nobody. But they

see. Another we, we just we just we're so we're so much

you go on the and you see much the cochecett with the

pescadito in the part of that's to know and you're to be

and they're to they're they're they're they're they're the

And whatever that you don't understand is that the logitpo of the energy that has

that the 666 and all that are people are people are doing

conspirations to espant to and not they're not to get

from the vocal so so so so so so

so Stanas, not is a figure real, not a figure that exists, and that is another thing that is also that is abunding much. Much of those who are dedicated now to the new churches satanical, the only that they were to change the name to the Deidate, and when the traditions satanical original, not are traditions of adoration to a being superior, because the only being superior is the man.

But now it's to say that my father and sir satanass and that said they

changed the name the name of the god and they're being the same

those most burrogers religious now at a other single or so they're

they're they did the philosophy that manjavis totally totally

completely but there is And, and other it's a new thing. Because at final,

they're in their group of feligreses that are there so they're that they're not in

things grotesques in honor to the are not in a not to be with the

satanism. No, have nothing to the satanism original. Nothing to let me.

So, let's let me let us let me say that's that would be the Richard Ramirez.

Yes. Okay? That when Lopez And when they were caught up. He was caught. He was caught. He was called

like a little little little that they were like, but when I was he said in front of the cameras, he said that

was an adorado of Satan. It was a coward, a psychopath, a montyrooos and a sociopath. But was a

scudder of that and spanto to all the Catholics and Christians. But not to the satanists to the

personas is the adversary, and for that the person he he was the He said Anton Leveille. The devil.

The devil if exists, but not Lucifer, not is Belsiebu, no is nothing. The devil is the pretext of the maldine. The Catholics

say, the Christianians are that the best trick of the devil is to think that no exists. When the

devil is the great mentira, they're, the devil me is peccar. The devil

He did that I to talk to my cunada. When you you liberate of that and assume that that maldade is that

that's in the mentira of the devil you. You liberate the badframette. That is

the devil. It has nothing to do with the stahot, Locifer, and of the Sebu,

eh, nothing. So, so are three figures different but those

are all they're they are indistinct When the figure of this satanass in the Bible appears in the Antio the Testament, I think two times, three times maximum.

The serpent, that was the animal most astutto of the garden. In any moment they said that was Satanaz or they were nobody of those. It was the animal most astutto of the garden. And then, an adversary that there is to put to to talk to God, to talk about him to Job

for that he johs. Okay? And the adversary that he presents after the New Testament

to Jesus when he went 40 days and 40 nights to the desert. And he he was done

three times. Yes. And then in revelations he mentioned the figure of the

Antichrist but but nothing to be Lucifer was an angel The angel more

and more loved, that's that's for defeccoes to the earth, to care,

to care. But not are the same. Lucifer is the one of the light, is the

same figure that the Prometeo and the who's he was to robar to the

gods to give us to be to give us he's the that he does he does

he's the people. Tristemence the books are very

And so much of the people. The people are very away of the information and of the news. And they keep with what

they're doing. Sure. For that I'm right of so I'm trying to trying to, I don't

want to convince to anybody, I don't me create to anything to I'm not at what I'm there's a or two

that they're that want to study and that want to learn and learn that I'm doing the

Capsules in TikTok. Yes. For that's all how you in TikTok? Orion

La Bei. Arroba. That's that I'm in the video was where I was where

I'm not those postures quite interesting that was what I really made much the attention and it

was when I took the decision to to try and unfortunately then you

did you do you did you do you did you we're we're we're

we're we're we just that I'm let me let me I'm

to let me I'm what I do in the many questions but how monetizes

I don't monetize I don't I don't I'm not I'm not the only that I'm

doing I'm experiences different for example I have a spectacle that's the name

the myth of the vampire and this I'm I'm when I got to

do the so I'm so I'm doing so what I knew that I knew about

about the about the the first of the books basic is Dracula. Dracula is the first novel written with the figure of the vampire. Prevue to Dracula, is Carmilla, of Joseph Sheridan Lephanou.

And, before of that, is the poem of Christabel. Before of this, there are, there are some texts, there's the novel of Corinto,

of Nervo, and Gett. And Gett, also, also, a quote of Corinto, where they were in

the figures similar. Yeah. Well, is written a form of the diary and of the experiences

that they who were in contact with no one one one that is the that

thought, or from the point of the most important of vampires and vampires I'm going to

to do a question. Let's do you want to do you go to the ogas you know, in what page? In which page? We're I mean, I'll leave in silence.

Yes, only for you. What you have you? You know, you've got one? Yeah, you know, you? You know, you? You know, perfect. Good. If you thought in a ravena,

it's going to materialize an arana in the caja. What you have been said, is it's been materialized there. What word you? A name. What name? Lucy.

Lucy. Well, obviously, Lucy, it's complicated that's manifest here. Because it could have been fiction, could have been to have been some of the

other other things. We're going to get this here and we're going to do the page 241

and I'm that you think you think you another one a word, a word

one 241 21 no is like not not the page 241

no you can't you have you've to be to you're to

come well obviously Lucy not obviously Lucy not was

not But then the vampire buss another solution, and when no can manifestar, then you destroy any option that you have. 2.41. So, the mytho of the vampire is an experience of this type, where

we have illusionism, we have, we know, we're food, we have romance, we have seduction, it's an experience unique in the world, that's the whole the

knowledge real and ancestral of the vampires, with a scene very, very interesting.

And that's what I do, basically. And when when, when, when you do these

these and when, when, every, when, every person to do a television, I

do a demonstration of this type, me invite to the television regularly

with Israel Jaitovic, I'm, almost three, four years with Alfredo Adam in the mess of phantasmas. Since the first that Nino Canaan me invited

also I did a demonstration of a phantasm. Yes. So, I do do for demonstrations in television and when I do presentations in

theater. So, right, in February we're going to have again the ceremonies of the Mito of the Vampiro. You have

done? Even no. No, I've done the When you have the Feches, me informers and I'm

a show you. You know, I'm going to thank you. I'm invite to some of your your,

uh, seguers more fervient those we're in an experience unique. Sure,

I'm left me asombrated. I think that even here, I think, they're all

there's not a sombrated. If you're you're just that, acerate, come. Okay.

No, no, no, no, no, here, here, here, without,

here, here, without, How do you You know, Maria? You have read the tarot or one of

no, no, no, perfect. The fact, the tarot not is not for

to learner constantly what is, the Divine Providencia elige a NIP for you.

The NIP you can you can you can't do you can't you can to be a second

is that of these arcans to make a lecture a lecture very very quick

let's keep with that you know that you make the attention that you

make a something any or bad and that you may you know they're

attention two you take those and then I'm why

was because I am a divine what you what you

know the what is the what is I don't I can't

do it in prestige Dice, the emperatrice. What prefer, the emperatrice or the

world? It's that both me call the attention. What do you make a thing? The two.

The two. Love and that's one. I'm not, and that's with what you do you? I'm going

for a time. With a curiosity. Curiously, the emperatrice is the

union of the two arcans previous, which is the and the sacerdotice. The mago is

when you when you you're going to you're going to you when you're when you're all the

information of the universe all what is the sub-conciencia that is the sacerdotis and so and they

then and us do the emperatrice represents a woman embarrassed of these two

forces, of the force masculine and feminine of what you want with

all the information. These are the powers creative. Talves you know, maybe you know, to think a thing to

think a much, but you cost to work, like, concreted the moment and concretar the day to

put to make to do something. Tiendes to think to think much and to procrastinate what you have to do.

Maybe that's why it's called the attention. It's curious that you have mentioned the

word, because the love because the love only is crystallized when you want you

the whole of the information. When you got to you would be

to come to this podcast? Of actually, Jesus me had

commented of two people, but in in si in didn't know that

I was that I knew. I knew that came two people

but in since in so in so you

didn't you and well not I mean, I know, you know,

but at the same the arcano you know, the could you have eligued have

eliged any of these. Yeah. But the arcano you elicio

to you. Okay. It's the only, so you know, then you know,

then you know, you know, to learn and control, to be to be to be sure, and focus,

so that that so, so, so, So, can crystallize? Yes, I know perfectly.

I'm I'm with with the time. I'm going to be the last time that we're it's a pleasure

I'm a lot of the talk about you. Well, before that I want to thank you, for acceder, for

coming, for talking to talk with us and the really that for me was very ammeno this,

this is this is a because no any, because not to hear new postures, to talk to things that

know, that's very very valuable for me, of the very, the value. Much thanks. And you, and you're the people,

I'm going to get to the final of this chapter. I'm gladysko for being always presentes in each one of our other

of our chapters, and always expect a person very interesting as, as well, how it was

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