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Episode Date: March 5, 2024

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They'd have like you said, the quantities of kilos of monies of golds, in bars, in lisgots, in joys valiosas. But those sentiers, the ascenta, the ascendadoes, they'd order them to do you as to five meters. So, they'd be put in to do it because they were workers of him, and now, who can't care of the money? No, because I and I, you, those mat about and those they'd have them up of the money.

So, they'd They'd They'd With some With the animal Or so Mula and bavas Nopal

Where they'd They'd A messka To get a intact For not To get us For a Because you

To get it They're gonna To get it They're They're They're They're To get

Those people There's There's There So... If he No, No,

No, You know You're You're You're You're We're We're

We do we do not do our Gustos, if not we do these fiestas to him, can't say that never never will give that treasure. But no

it's decarting that a torment, for example, when it's the first torment that moge,

goys immediately at the amanace before that come to be the light. Also,

have to the rations that can't, because the raya that the rome to

the rome, where the the arbor is also the of the purpose of the money. Comprovowed that some people

mentioned that had had a call a radio, I said, I'm going to mark them, they're going to

invite me to me to me and they're back. Ah, they're the money.

Saludos and welcome, amantes of the disconocid to a new chapter of the

MED with Jesus of Nazareth Martines. In this occasion, I have a person

very special here with me that going to talk about about a thing

very interesting that I know that you can't because we're to talk about about the

sorrows. In this occasion, is with me to Mr. Manuel. How is Don't Manuel? Well,

good and then visiting you to the manner of that now so now so now

so that you're known to be known to and here we're not for what you have been

for the one of my other of my brothers that was the first that was the first

he was you had a, you it was we could call it is labor, aficion, a good for the busk of

the treasures? Well, more than I'm just, I'm like, no, I know the word, how to say, that can't say that me can't, but also, it's a hobby, I do, I, that say, but, at least, I'm met to this, and

after that I'm, this, I'll, this, how it's called? And, I'm just, to let's your house prepared, for that, you know, the Spitz, for there, no more, that that's, good, that's the

question. I'm a question. You're a question. You're a thing that's me have passed

some things that me meneen things. Inclusive, one day they were when I

called, I said, well, if you're like, I'm going to get to you're going to

help. Referentia, that if I, uh, I, uh, So,

uh, so, uh, so, this, um, to the first, uh,

principle, this, me put I escarv and no, it was, then I was then they were

they were, they were they were uh, uh, and I said, uh, no,

the, no, are the, people, and the, and the companies are,

and the, and they're so, and I'm, they're gonna they're, and then, they're,

this, uh, I, this, I, I've got this start scabando and

like a meter and me found the crane of a person Oh, oh, he said, you're the

who is the you're doing a lot, I, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, more than

for my first discoverymient. Ah, it was a first time. And then then I'm this,

this, this, this, this, this is I'm making me, these baras, but,

so, that's, that's, that's, that's that's it. This. I mean,

but, uh, me no me molest it. I'm no I'm sure

the so I'm the same the same the famous tesoro that said, yes.

There's people said that they were and I said, and I said, I've got

to get to this, this day, that not where they are the money, and where

they're there, so there, so there there are there, there's, there,

there's, there, I, I, I grew in a family humilde, this,

yeah, of my name that they put on the humilde, in buscador,

but, this, well, we've got to concreted a thing,

even, even, yet a time, so, so, so, for,

to get, to this, we're, we're, we're in the buskas, how many,

has, doing these buskidels. It's. Without interrupal, I'm 24 years, 4 months, without interrupid.

And it's that he's a ... When I go to the places, this, at the

hour when I get to the people I will do, and the hour of the same

a document legal? A, a paper simple, a o'clock, register of who he he helped and yeah

after this I'll pass to a a little a little a little it's like it's like a

bit of a bit of words so much more or less for there okay so in all these

these these these these there are there are there there are

there people that have those special for the busk of the

many words but you me mentioned that the method

effective is the radioestestia with You can't I'll I'll I'm

a infinity and apparatus and I'm a apparate a or cargames

a cargames almost a two meters quadrada and traillanos as

like a battery an accumulador of car we registra we're we're

to say about about about about three three hectares we

we get to the seven of we we're we're at the

seven of passing by pass by and the torretta of that the apparel was a

signer of a truce roha yeah and term by pass for pass

we're four like car to carry that's now that and yeah

for to get a grito but so well the

sirena and we said content because we've registered

four hectares what were four hectares in the

area then in this the area we pitted, then immediately,

in more and less, we're a commo a reetro, a machine to scarvart because

and dabbas all the all of their disposition. There was a group. We did to the

taskar what what more or the the apparate or the machine that scarbo

about three meters and we got a arao of a sienbra that was that was

what was pittant the apart. I said I'm very these are the these are the

these are the these are the these are metal for me no but this that's going to look to

a treasure here never existed a there's we've got with an apparato and I

and that was the mark that it was at more of three meters a arrow

still still there's still oh' oh-le that there's

no there no there had been there have done an ojo

to let them. I don't know how they'd they'd in that moment not put us to be

to be at the lives because it was in the morning here your servidor to check

there no there's no there had been there but

he was a act of 120 years and and something that no

I think well I don't I don't I'm when those did

when they did you know there has seen information or

documentations of persons that utilizes the radioesthesia for different things

like for example in one occasion I saw a person that he's

a particular for the figure of a person or a representation

of a person with some name with some some

references as for to say is X or

Y person then then then they they start

the pendul and know where has your problem medical this person.

So, depending on the movements of the pendul, they're where is where is doing

a movement positive or negative and with that they're what's the disease? You get

to manage a method similar in the busk of the I'm still,

I'm more, how is it more more sooo I'm sitting

on a sofa and I've I've divided what is the

body of a person in four. Of the feet to the right one part of the of the

the to the the right to the the what is the peskwee and what is

the head to make sure. The end of the thing you get a lot of what you have passed if it's a problem you can

let me detect immediately with the baras the bars. The baras me make this negative this,

for up, and positive for a back. If you you have the problem of the roadies to go to your feet, I can't say what you what you have in the feet. And so continually, if it's the part of

the stomach, in the stomach, if it's in your head, in your head, if it's in what is in your pecho, all what is the center here of the the, of the body, also, then you can't even. Okay, then he's a method, but with the barra.

Yes, with the baras. With the baras of madera. Ah, the made. The matter. Oh, let's. If those, no have transistors, those,

no have, this, nothing. None. They're, they're not, they're, and they're

that I've managed yeah, during this time, and are the time, and they have been almost 24 years, yeah.

But the only that is detecter, where is the problem? Nothing. Yeah, without.

No, without. No, without. Okay, by me, me,

comment about that the, that you call them also the gruho to you. Yes, I'm said, I'm

human like you're like you, I'm, I'm, I don't do, things,

I don't do. All right, I'm not, I do, everything is good, I'm perfectly. I'm, um,

of a person that was my abuel, that me used to me with, he, he was a

curandero at level, here, region, here, all what was, Chouacan,

and part of Halisco, he doing to him, making me pass him, for his

sonn't, for his nephew, and in really, if he was his-in- but as his-a-j-

his, because he had that, that he had that, he had so, and I had a

much, because I were paralitical, I, I mean, little, so-sul- that,

he was, and he did it, and so- I've put in practice, but if did it.

You know, about herbularia? Yes, exactly, yes. But Icarried right for what it's called radiesthesia.

It's a group of bars that use and me they say what I want to say. Yes,

for there's the question that was the question that the idea, well, the church also

it's also part of the methods or of the things that not they're going to

supposedly are methods adivinatorious. especially of a question I'm

this I'm in that I even I'm I'm I'm I'm

said that I didn't I'm know if this this is this is for you

like you for that I'm like I'm just I never you know that's you're just you're just

you're that's where we're not with whatever person we can't we're to we're to

me said, first place, this, as the, number one, would be your father, that would be your

partner, that's a person, your brother, and a third this, this,

a prime, or your friend, your brother, but never with people, people,

know, so, so, I've mentioned, that one , so, they're,

they, they're, they're, they're, immediately, this, how they tap,

a one of one of piers or they, in the, there, and the, there,

there, have to , much Sure. Dentro of the relato that are

regularly in all parts that in Mexico we've, there's about there's many

myths. It's that when there's a treasure enterado, always there a guardian.

You're what you think about this, this class of relators? Totally of a

point. There are right, and right, if he no, no, no you liberas,

if Well, who's Well, who has to do to give to give to the the day

up primarily Jesus. But in the we're we're we're

we're we're we're we do you do this fiestas to

he can say that never never never never never

oh oh, what what has what has that here I've

been here I've been to front to not

believe but But if, how it's called? I'm, I agree to that you to give them

this treasure. After all, to all, that's going to to be a fault is to us, to the families with

that I'm not, absolutely, yeah no, yeah, he's got to be able to be there, but if

we have to guard, a respect, I, to guard us, okay, so, so,

like, like, like, for example, the the the of the ascentados

many of the many of people, they were they're to their people,

to those people they're they're they're grandes quantities

of what what he was what he was to the

peon and those and he and those with the those

those in some in some some because I don't live

it's about the the ascendos that they have

as like you say, the quantities of kilos of monies of gold, in bars, in lisgots, in how it's called, in joys valiosas, but those sentiers, I'd like,

the ascendos, ordainable, they'd they'd just to five meters. Uh-huh. So, they'd be able to do because they were, people, and they were, who, who's to care of the money? No, because I and I, you,

they'd, they'd just chas'd on the river. So, they were they're in some of the messes they're in

animal, so the mula and bavas of napal where they did a messla that was

intact to not discoverer. It was like a class of ritual? With a

one one, well, for they're not to get them to get

and they said, so they said, then they were that they had to

take those people to those this, they've, they've got to have made

a piece or a paper that was a thing, those things, they've got written,

many people have found out, and me have got here here to my hands, but, this,

we'll see, for example, we're going to go to a place where there is a

place and there's a house made, a property, well, now is, this,

now, now, up, up, up, a little to all to all and some people that I've said, look, in your

house, I've been, Adelante, I know that if there's you're going to be able to, you know, we're trying to go to do so, I'm going to do three, with what there there's been there in some

occasions, it has been in other occasions, no, because no, no, no, no, we've scarvao, but there are occasions that is that the money is there and it's allure, while you're You can't get a

With the machinery That is Yeah Puttner The machine Right, because a man no

There's To work Uh... Cerebando If you You can dedicate a time,

let's do you You can dedicate to an excavation of those You've To work A year

Um No, simply I, I'm just I've Durao And it's

me has already in the I'm in this moment I'm I'm 29

days Oh, I'm He's me has now in now so I'm meted because I know that there are the centavers guardas is a

property of a senior that was managed much money here in Saguio and all these properties that she has in all the properties there is this there are testimonios that a

suitor my or the other side where she bought that a lady to buy that a senior this my respect to that The other She was her She gave many things She bought

Or that she She had Possession of They're in Here, where she's The Ditch The Diner

So, So, So, So, so That's So it's I've done, So, I

Do you, I'm So, I'm So, and I'm in a 28 days. Twenty-eight. But is

because you are sure that's Yeah, I'm sure That's, I'm a percent

That there There's There's There's Some thing You're is sure that is so is so.

I'm seeing my other my other knowledge is see that that the area is moving.

As I'm said earlierly capacitado I'm I'm I'm start 50

centimeters of the area see and I know that's been manipulated.

There has been manipulated. There's there pieces of loza of losa that

manjava that manjavals these people there there And there's

expansive, yeah, tronated, plus caskillos of rifles. Antigues. Antigues. That's

that, uh, d'u' to be to be that year, and that property right

has 25 years. Ah, bigissima. So, so, it's, that's,

this money, this, well, it's, but it's, onlyly, that we're only the time,

we're getting to do you know, I'm, want to, I'm, I'm, He was like, like, scarvando, I know what I'm doing?

A very, uh, the liegeera, let's say, the number of the Ligeria, starting to menial the Tierra Sulfur, that I know the reenna of a house. Yes.

So, they're found some 40, 50, 50 monedas, this, uh, antigues, also, the most yearjit of 1,014.

Oh, this, and of what are, the pyramid, monedas of the Apache, of Poptemo, of 50 centavos. 20citos

of cobb also but the most old was in 1914 within

this all these excavations that has you've done you consider some of what you

have done your may be never never never never never

never to be not so much in other coasion in other

occasion that you I'm there I found some fossils of dinosaur that

I've got in your house. Ah, in those fossils? They're of more of three thousand years of

old old some of fossiles, you know, puttrophical so can say, yeah,

of much time, of a grossor of two-pugats. Some those are big,

exactly. That's there's there's there in your house. Oh,

yeah then they those must. This, for you see, what's

what we have been what we got to what's what another house, not mentioned, because if I

do, I'm, I goard the, how it's it, can say, not say exactly the, all the, all privacy. So, I'll , I'll, I'll, I'm a secret to, the people

that me contract, the people that me invite, this, and in other occasion, we've, there were 13, 14, bolsas of moned, yeah, derramed, over a camera infrared that they lost,

also, I did I with my baras and we we're in a medium

because the sir when she said, you know, you're going to buy you,

an M.W. It was a 7 of December it was said, of the 89

and we still my other no see, if I came committing

a rhod of maldecy that I'm, I'm, I don't do you,

no I'm going to not have taken, have tried , have tried the manned

the manned to make this for that they they're, so they can do that's, no say, your

power. Or, that's not, or me that's a power, there still I'm studying

that's, that's interesting. Interesting. Like, for example, put us, we're going to they're going to

a house and they say, you know, they're that, according I, by part

of the testimonies of my abuel, here there DINERO. Yeah. They assume that

there is that money. In that case, the guardian, who would be the ultimate the last the money?

Here, here is a studio. You me invite to your house or the people that me invite to

your house, to your property, as you say, anteriorment, you give the

the money to give me the first of 30. I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm in really, where did the flama to

get up, where you were in your house never never had ever you,

you know, you're about about and immediately me going to get to you, I'm going

to you were, and where did the light and I've meted to your

house. So that is my first testimony. So, you know, the

kind of the kind of when no this can't get to get

to moment rapidly to the house. So So, so I do so that the people think that in

really, not are talking with a charlatan. Yes. They're talking with an expert in the matter of radioistetia. Yes.

And, even if you invite to your house and you've seen, you never will know, I never will to know how

it's, and I'm and I'm sorry, I'm going to say, look, in that you're doing, there's what you're doing?

Oh, yes, but some, how did you know, who said, who's, who said, who said,

yeah? those are my connociences that I have without so I'm so to what you're

so that's a lot of a case a house quadratita of 10 10 yeah

the and with the barillas exactly it's going it's I'm looking I'm

I'm part to the parted a half when it's a partia the parted a middle

mark first what is a my part my baras these I'm put to

to work, they're up to be up to get up and are negative uh

this, pardon positive yes, and if they're back on they're

positive and they're going to be up they're they're they're

they're they're and so that the cartulina or me pass the

measure if me they're they're they're they're back

they're they're back there there I do my studio

very personal and and do meters, what there are here?

Every that I ask, they're going to back. When they're

positive when they're negative, they're up to up to get up. At 100

when there a carabre enthrade me start to when

it's sound a a a fierro a tick

twen they sound they're they start and they're

to get the the And I think, It's interesting. It's a little 50. And he's

put the moustres Archaeologists. In his eyes, I've discovered. And I know how it's possible that we're

so, with time, and you, with those things, you know, to what distance and

what is what there? And I've said, and I rector, that we're going to

say, that 80 times, of what I have said, 70 29 have said.

In that is I'm 100% I'm sure of that is a carder and

as a not all the whole where they're in the lumbre is the mentioned a tesoro

that we want to because the the the light the the

dispired also the it's a light very right

right right right the the the the the

the the the a resplandor also are in cubs, it's a mineral that's justraved

under the peteras also the other the troncos of the arboles that have four or five meters enthras

that have 10 years, also they're a gas oral that also is where you get a

this, this is the sun so that is not money or they're so can

be other things can be other things but when when me

brinked a light of one a other metro to bring you, there we're

talking about of the and we're talking about that there are people when it's a

light when it's a light between blue and verdiosa uh, uh,

ahead, we have to find it to make a spiral uh to go to get us

going to get the there will give the good detector what you take your

mark, and you have to look to the mode of a spiral. So, where it is the

lumber, never will be the treasure mentioned that you're looking.

Because are gases that are that's that's not the metal. Yes.

There are to be a spiral, but in a radio of a meter

to two meters to do you, and you go to find, and you

go, because it is, of there's there's in the mero place where

is the in the Mero place never seen have the money

where they're the umbris and the public to the fire that's

to referes to the fos those that are those who say that

they are in any whatever time when when it's

so a time and the madrund at see

where you see there where you see a there's a very

blue but you be in the less of a minute. So, you can

go to do a with a crash of a camera and it's a immediately you go

and you see that there was a light there's there's there's

there's there a oh, like like before before

before to do to make these excavations there

there are people are that you are to you to get

and to get to these money Like, for example, in these cases, you know,

this case, I'm, I'm, my priority before I was to cover, if I was $50,000

you were dollars, so, so, so, my method that I'm using

to do not years to come, is that you give, you want, so you want,

the that's that's that's that you do you do you go,

to be able to sell, and to come, us some tacco, manage it of the gasoline

if I'm a a child to give him to give me to give me to give him there's to do you know for the most for the

money to your bolsa I want to I want to I'm in what you know what my priority is

not get in any moment or not to be a venter of the advantage that if I'm

I'm very a gusto and if no there the other is that when I enter

at that when I'm we're other things. Here, the paranormal, it's a the terrain very clean,

well sanctified, and it's quite quite a little the house. Because, where there's a cold

there's there, there is something that's that, that's that's that's,

there, and there to get to get to the car, me, he's

a image very interesting, where there's where it a, a, a,

a transfiguration of a person adulta bigote, your car,

if you could us could not to show, the people not do this place in the

moment, also there to be to be that this not are these phone,

I'm, in a year, I've had a modern orita like the

that I bring with me, that I gave me with me my little

other, another method and a camera infarroha I think those telephos.

And you you just you just personally that the siluette I saw that, that cadaver.

The same, I was taken all back all sacer, the baras were to be to get me to get from to get from.

So, that's, that's that's that you that's so, so, as the last,

and as I'm, I'm, I'm a photo when, before, to scarvary, and then after I'm,

of, I'm, in the day, in the day, in the day, in the day, in the day, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, to your house, and I'm, and I'm the silhouette

of that person. I'm to be it. It's incredible that you see the eyes,

his bigot, his barb, his front, all. And as you know if you have been

you've put out there. So, so I have been to that I

know that I know, because I don't know the encant. For me I'm

I'm not so. So, so, we've got we we're doing we're

we're So, I don't want, from that situation, yeah, I'm very disillusioned to be a discarvado because I'm the that I'm the

I'm the here, so I'm, personally, is the scarva in when they want, they want to you know,

they can't, but if they want you to do the excavation, this, at the this,

to me, demen of what there's, of what discover us. Like, for example, the,

the maximum that I've got to to find, In one occasion in the 2002, we found 790 monadres of Plata. The plan. We can't say, too,

about the CERCA Guarachean. Where is? Here is, over-yending for Cotilla. Ah, okay. So, it's found out of a paster in a circle that we're reparting us, we're talking to 80,

to all for parishes. Oh, all right. To all right. To all for paris. There was, there no, who metier apprats, who putia the food, and we were,

in a Juebe Santo. We went to mark the Juebe Santa and we'll

discover we're the Yerne Sando. Those days Jueves and Viernes and Savado

Santo is when there's where is the Lumber no, we have to go to

work those days because are great those days. It was when the

the he got he gotro so, how it was, how it was,

he was he detue in the Biblical then those are

to to guard. That is, you have to be, and when the triumphant, for the Domingo of Ramos, is when they can do excavations. Or, like, there's a special energy to do these. So, there's there. There's those days, the Thursday, and the Saturday, Santo,

and the other is the day 3 of May, the day of the Santa Cruz, and the day two of the Candelaria, the day 2 of February. Oh, really. But, no it's discarta, that it's a storm, for example, when it's a second

torment that moge, that's well mojave immediately at the amazer, before that amnesca

and they're to be the lumbra. Ah, also is the first the first fire

now. Now, also have also to the rays that can't, because the

rayo to a arbor, the rome where the where this the tree,

where this is, that's that's a time, that's, that was a bit that I

have been heard a few many many I've been, Comprovado, that some

people said, I've been caught a radio, I said, I'm going to make me

and they're to invite me and they're and they're they're the money. The other, the other

problem here is, is that the people of your people, of our country, of our people,

here's Aguayo they're they're in the States to Mexico to get us to get to them.

Yes, so they are. They're being, they, they're they,

they're And, um, and only for them in some in a little in a work,

in a place, in a work, in a time, it's first,

I mean, I've heard about many times. Albañel's that are working in a new

construction, they destroyed a house of adobe, like for example, and scarvando, so enconted

the monedas, they're in the loro, the plot. I'm also, I'm, too,

this, testigo of the , the patron. And here also of Saguayi, there's a house. Here in Saguay, if there are 100 houses of adobe,

30 have money. Yes. Not all. But 30 houses of adobe that there in Saguayo, there was the dinners. Now, here we're here in Saguayo,

where I'm of here, this, becine, and here has been born in Saguayo. This, we're full of tunnels. Yes, totally. Comprovado.

There are tunnels that get from parroquia parroquia that have 100 meters of how it's

called to come to come to a cabo for above in more than some

in more of a little there's there exactly there's there we've

talked as as you do you I'm I'm I'm many

I'm many we're we're we're we're we're we're

we're we're we're we're on on on the

Mesas, still your servitor here the year last, this year

not, this year I've not just two times, but the year

last we took the suerts that we're going to and we went to down to

a tunnel, we're on the times, and they were at those times,

yeah, and a so, they found where they was their where they were

to get to get to get to get to them put to and they

to do the Christterer were people were They were those who They were those who

They were also They were They were in fact that they They've been They've done After after Of course of many Because here

We've been We've been Even in some Ascentamintamintos I've To discover them Where there There's much

pedacera of can't Ores, figures that they used The obsidiania That were Those chichos

They were Those chandel They're Some Some Piedras Briggas And

Also, here I'll now I'll let's let's let's

I'm a collection of things here I'm here I'm here I'm let's make let's

let's we're let's they're those those chuchillos of them

oh'rall that interesting that the of the of the tell you

I'm going to talk one story that me made a last a time

me me they're from from from from it's

from Gmes Farias Jalis in in that in this

in this place presumptomely, I don't know but me they're a assynda a cofradia.

In that as a sienda presumptoment there was much money and then the population did buskidas

for all parts they did they for the paces, in those parts and never found them they never

was a adult me said that when I was a little, this is always went in mula to the school and cargaba

with his brothers, that in one occasion he was passing out of the asient of the coffradia. And when

he was passing he went to a man recargated in the the wall of the asiena. So when

I was there he said, oh yeah my boy, do you do you a favor,

no. Necessito to get to a place to give a place to give

my mula. No, sir, I don't can't if it can't be my

mula, no, let me So, the So, the boy, I'm the

man I'm a man, he's he's tired of and he's to get to get to

the man. When he was the man, the man, the said,

this favor, I thank you thank you much, he abient a money. And it was

a money of five pesos of the times, of those times. So,

this much ch' When I look to see a on a side, he

was a he's he's marvillowed with the money he's even he

put a attention to he said he said he said he said tomorrow that I

go back to go to go to pay to pay me my mula he

he's he's but he he's he's he's a lot and see a

person that's he's there And, and he's He says And he

He's He says, Oh, he says, Oh, he says, Oh, he doesn't He'll

want to be to pay him Mula, he's thinking of the money. No, my son,

a little. He says, but if you want to go back more time, to be

to be so he in the house, he's he's, then I'm to go

in the time with the person for to the then he

I'll give a dinner. So, so, he's a time. He says his mom, I need to

you get that he when he was there. He was he was his canicas the man.

So he he was with the endangue of his moma that he to go to

his friends, with his children but never he he was that he

he was when he when he he said oh yeah I've that you that

you've that you've that's you've Well, we have to have to now.

Now he's a to play apostando. You have you have five pesos. No, well I don't

do you know, I'm going to do you want to do you're to put up to ask. They're they're

and the man, he's got to the money and he did like $25 in puras

money. So this muchacho he said, how do you do I get those money?

If I'm my mom to say that where I say money, will think that

rob me. And that this person he says, do you do you do your place to

to get your treasure. So, that this man was a mesquite, he saw,

at that the sierra, escrow, and he made his moned, when

he did all this, he said the said the man, I need to me

a favor. Necessito that me you do you do a favor. You can't? And the little, how do you? I'm going to do do you? My friend. Well, if you're going to

do this favor, I need to come to the night. Vente with your mula and I need to come to say in the night. So, so he's going to the house, and when

he goes to the asiena, this sir is waiting. When I was in the place, he starts to say, you have to be very valiant with

this what you're going to do it. It was a certain area and he says you have

to scarvar here and you have to get to put it in one on the costals

and he he's scarbar the man he he's he's he's

he he said no no I don't I can do I'm to say to my

papa he he can he says no you you have you

you have to nobody more will be able to do you agarra valor he's

all the and he's he's a one of the mula the the sir he's going to

do you do you do you do after to go to go to go to but you

you have to scabar here and here you only this night no more

you only and the he was a sustado he was thinking in other

other other they're they're in the mula and result that they get in

directly to get them the cemetery then the he says he's

scarva here so this this the new is scarv

scarv and he put the and he put the he has

been he he he he he disappears of

the the nothing so then the then the

so night, he said that he gave calentura, that he put a lot, that he vomit

or so, very bad of the susto, and he never he never to the

asiena. When he he had passed some years, he was a little a little

a little he said, they got to go back to go to go to go to the newiecett

and all of those things of those things, so then once had had been to go to

this place to the little to be the fear that he had to this

space. When I went to go, no, I don't want to get to

the house and he's he's going to the little my

money, my money's my money's when it when it was

when it said to his know to be me to get to me

to come to me when I when desentier to these

money that they're not monel money of five

pesos they were of 50 pesos moned of gold centenarios

so he was so oh yeah where did you know you're doing you know

I was that I'm so much time and not just he said he said so then so

that he entered what he said to this he's he he

and scarva here and he he's he went with his he

he said he said you know I'm where where where's the money of the ascendados.

They're to look at and when they're they're they're they're like

like boxes of very, very grosses and when they're totally carried, but full of

carbon. So, then, then when they're going to their house, well,

then it's carbon, they're going to the man, and the man, the man

the man, the man, the Lastime that the guardian of the treasure, no us contact to say,

where he was if we had said, the money us took about. So, the manchus he said,

he said, this night, you have to get to get to this location and this location, and

he said, you know, he said, he was a father, when was a kid, I was some wosos

to the Pantion, and the The Lord me said, where was, where was the coffres?

And, well, the father, like, he's, man, he's, he's,

he's, he's, he said, that the people more are the , they're

to the opportunity to have to take these these treasures. What there's

there's so, I'm, I'm, we're to say quantities of 10,

15 groups, I, six groups. Yeah, is a quantity And always the How's it

The name, the one He didn't want to He was the He was the He was the people I saw, I saw you

You were, but I saw Five When were They were the Other Been a People,

The other Yeah, So, I, He went to In the group In the group, it was

Four, and I saw I always I've I've No, I I've

Discartal that I've Let's let us Let's let us a dozen

of people is welcome for me in the excavations nobody has put in clear or not has been a paper

that have been three, that have to go five, that have to go seven. I always if the more

people, we'll get us more rapidly, we know, we said, anteriorment, excavations

did it were in 15 or 20 persons. So, so, you and you and

other person, we'll say that we're that we're going to to get them to get them we're going to get it

and it's impossible. I don't discard that in the first talachas you say that you say you know

but there but you can't look like like the question of the gases that's

that are very toxic there are people that when discover that if is a

oil or a coffre not they do they they're not they're so it so it

good you talk this thing because I said I'm too

three or four days I destape a line of the, of the, of the

gas. Yeah. Me, it was to doleer the middle of the car and I've seen

much a heart of the head, much a commisone. I know, and I know that is a question

of that there's the gas. Inmediatantly me I came with alcohol. I'm, I'm,

let's, what would be, 40 minutes and I still scabando. After,

after how it's come, yeah, because I have, respect, to this,

To these, because I say, from the 9 to 3, of the 8 to the 3, is what I scarbo. I,

I more time yeah, more not, to give them to give them. Because, they have to their

time. After this, I don't discard that have to have to have respect, but I

in the Micea has been and I've done, and it's my mode of to be a work.

In the night, in the night. Nothing in the night. What? What?

Because, for example, we're to look of the people of the right. Ah, okay. If, in the

morning, in a predie to be around to all the house, that's that you arreime

nobody, or even I'd have a flotilla to get a and a other,

another, the other, the other of the two, three, scabando. So, refiending

to that they're getting and... Yeah, and what you you've got and what you've

in years to start planning that buskeda for And you take it. And you can't be. Now, now,

it's not. That's it they're they're and they're there. Sure. Me,

they're in a barranca. So, we've invited to work and no, because we we're

a herence of an a in a siena. Yes. This, we've got in the morning,

and we're getting, then, eight and a half, nine, nine of the I prepared everything, we put it to work and we got us a can'tara. Never I'd say that was

but it was a canter lechera of 40-litros. That's great. That's actually, we've got to get to get her with a fire. It was a pesada. It was taped. But in when

it was to 15, 20 meters, two with pistols and us with a scopet, and no, they took it. Dejen there. Who did a permission? in humans. I said,

yeah, it's all right, just you know, just you know, always, I'd always, I'd, always,

I'd get into the hand, simuland, that I'd try yeah, just, just,

you're going to get here, because also you're going to get to, because, so,

retire, and we've gone, we've been to go back, and let's do the time, the,

the, through three, four months, we, we've, we've, we've got, It was a lot of it.

But, they were done with all this money. It was mal reparted,

mal-avial, all of all over those, one, so, and so we went to, we're,

we're, we're of good, so we're, then, yeah, right, in the

experience, I have to have a vigilant to, if it can, to be, to be

two, five, or 50, minutes, with a viniculars, for that

you're checking if we're in a camp abirto that and there and we're arreem. And the other

is selection the people that you have to be talking, join us every 15 days,

every month if it's possible or every time to start four or five months

planing the place, planial, platical and three days to look to look at and I

think that can do that way. In this buskedom in this to mention what is what is what you

know what's what I'm I'm a reserve because this like we're we're

you know you and you know a car you know you know you're saying

well I have my own my own carcanchita too my carcachita I'm

already in the bicycle but if you yeah tomorrow past I bring to

a X to this so then you're going to say the people what what's

what happened so I'm doing I'm a little this and I'm doing this people who am I

am doing the the patrons and the family and me to me myself right.

The person that solicite for there my work, I'll mention the same that there

have to have a little of discretion that no so that not a voice to

nobody and that be very very serious in what we're very very delicate

And there And there's And there's And then And once And once Because is That's

They're talking Of course So, So, So, if you have to have much

So, with all this, of these these buskedom. These buskedom, have been

a situation in the that you, I'm commented of one of the various

did you see, see, yes, but have been in the you're

immediately getting or said, no, I don't don't enter here.

this this when our first this discovery nobody of the

five people of the seven pardon we don't we

we're we we're we're we're we're this this

only we're we're we're we're we're we abentam

alcohol for to of some 80 centimeters for some 60 centimeters

of the so much the o'emones the this the ohia and we we're very

content to come to us a pan of Guar that we had we've got to

some and then he's he's I'm mentioned that I'm that I'm

we've been we've been the equipment to come to work to paint we've been to

cut a lein and I, I, I, I, a extension, I, of two or three meters of of paint- to paint-cars. And with that I quit

the pader, and when I quited the piece, it was a-oh-as. When you're the stufes, that's what weweller the

plastic, because it was pure a plastic. Ah, if it was. The two fashos that we've had

been, this, uh, thanks to God, first, have been, the, have been,

the money, now, now, I'm, I'm, I'm trying, I'm ,

Let's narrow this, that my my suero was a vending a tachos

and I'm a tachitos in a little. They're just fined at those that's

in glory, they're in the way, the gas, a money of 10 pesos, a dollar

pure. And not was a maltratated, never they were. That was what were.

Yeah, the men, the years, for the over, 70. And never

knew, until he came to get to the servid and, I said,

I found this money of 10 pesos. All doubled. My first vented to a person that also that's fined

that's here the kyrs here in Saguayo and me gave 4,600 Pes for that moment. For that

monadit. Comment it they've been to have much good with government? This when we

we're not our first our first last we came to five persons custodianed and the

that came Adelante, I'd in a troca to a bouchito, the second in a comb

and the server, this is the fourth and other person, and the other person,

and used to that money to get to get to one or two hundred meters, we've

retired of to another that's my town, Zaguayor that's and of these

allis has conserved monos money, has even even even

still I see three years, I, I'm, I'm in my caridens, one that pesa some,

those gramitos of, how's called, of the money, and me see, a new thing,

I mean, I'm saying, that I'm put them, I'm not put it. That's very grueza.

Yes, I was really, the clava, and the annie, like, the annie,

like, the, and the, and the, and the money, as I'm, to get,

to get to , Thank you, we were the dukees, we were the duke and then he was to have to get to get it. And like, for example,

when the guardian, you could say, of these treasures, they give the access to the place, has been to a one one only

a very good a very good question this, there are some, there are, some, some,

there, so, so here your servitor, in when, when you get to the place,

then, then, then you know, So, you know if a person is there custodianing the money or not is to custodian or not just So, so,

Cuddle them So, then So, what, you can, they're going, some, three or four million pesos in

to buy some locients, some spray, some vellas, this, to harmonize to that the place to

make the portals, to, to pay me permission, every that after that get to

a excavation, to make, aeration, to ask us incamos three, four, five persons,

the way to let us, we need to put them to put up that's when it's in cases,

we just harmonized to make that those quadros that are to be held to menial

the sillons and not we're we're we're we're we're we're

we're topando. So, it's a case, a an analysis

and it's bring what he's going to occupy. So, three days

of visit and the fourth day to scabarv. Oh, yeah. There's to be

to be all the people, we're all the people, we're we're

to do, we're to do the excavation. There's not the other person, but the

people can't be familiarers. The familyars, they're also, because many many many people

are very curious, oh, good Moneta what this What I'm Well I

No, I'm My name Here I'm My lemma To try Is that My lemma of The center

That's put A mesa in the center With a Aes Aes Aes Aes

I'm To put All the I'm All the days And I So,

And then So, I'm You know If you You're To give This

This You'd To get This This Let's And content.

Yes. Entra one content and there's a content. There's no there's no,

no, any bad the other in those places. Debe be respectful. And not

not not. And if go to go to the and all they're at the

same day, no they're to just to get only to do

the back when you you're to do you're to you're

to see like to the way the walking the

right? Caminando to go, to the five meters, to just to get the place where you're

doing. Why do you do that's, because they're that's, that's aboderated, the energy is abhorred

and there. And if you do you do that the back, this, I don't

have seen but the people, but the people have, they're, to them, they're not,

they're to hold, so, we don't we're, of, the, of,

of abandoning a job like always with oration and get to water and get a bad when you

get a day and to work. Minimimed three days. Minimimed three days for an excavation.

Here his server has a 28 days. I'll say but it's a house very

great that's of 10 for 70 of the fund where we're we're

we're we're taking some of some some gobre, some

contain in the but not are not are not legitimate of the money,

we're trying to get those these these. This type of stories.

When I was a man, in the preparatoria, the abuela of an

man, I was about a person in a corner in a corner in a

lot. That's a story he had told a various times. So,

in a moment in the the the, the, of this woman,

he was a lot of a man, he was he he was

he was he was he he he went he so he using

nothing he, he he basing in what he was

this uh that he's uh many many of many

of the many many the many the person says and

you to get to to get to you you are

the person indicated for To be to Much of the other times, I don't know if you know the Campo Limpia or know in the Campo Limpia. This, this, we're used to, in a, how do you know, in a campo'Limpia? did the pitch and I said, it's a minute that I'm talking, but

why? Yeah, in the madrugada of those battles that you'd have, that in the madrugat, and she kept that, and I went to, and I was, I'm back to my, but with the head aghached. And I said, Primo, you're talking to you, there, you know, the picture.

It was my experience that I can't talk to, and he said that he, uh, he found out of the, but that's he went to, uh, he was going to He was, he said, nomadic a much, a place of San Juan of God, that's encereau

in his hotel, that he left his money to here, to be here, first that the animal he called, and that he said, that there, in this camp, to the back, from he was, in the final, the final,

there was a pizarra, yeah. Uh-huh. Like, there was, that, those, those, botecitos of the dinner. Oh, golly. And, so, he's to do to him, but,

I was, and if I had I know, I know, I know, I didn't know who I said, I'd be the friend, because he was he called and he was called. And he was, I'm saying, I'm here. Never duded in going to, this. And,

and, uh, he, uh, he, saw that he got to gastral. The money, the money was to go to where his house? No, of the camp, limpia. Oh, of the camp limpia? In the part of the in the part where is the pizzerra. You know, is what's

rodette, the camp was in the part of the of that history that I'm going to I'm exactly to the camp Olympia.

And they know that when they were the wos also they got boat

chileros that were full of monedas of monies that that's that they were

that my am good but when for I went to go to

lavary to go the boat with the monos so me

so so I'm so so I'm to to review one of the monedas

and they were to play but they they're not they're in the black the part it's

but the gold identically as it's like it's it's it's been in the

actuality so you got to you put a little but it's light

and it never and it never never never never to

then don't get the there's there's there the

acid special to to cleanalas, because if a one, a moneta has, this, has been a value, the antiquity limping, la,

tallying, you can't, you get it, the value. The value. There's just, and, well, in your case, guard them, to ask to the person that can't buy. In this case, of actually, I said to my

friend, because they said, no, man, it's a, man, imagine it's, it were like eight boats chilers chilers, jenos, jenos, they're in-s-est, they're Cargars of Dinero So they were

Cargars and A cargues and Declan, say it's Like, it's like Like, of 20,

or 30 or 25 Kilos. Because they were two bolsita those that they

were cargabann a Mula. Yeah. No, for being Mula they

were many. There were some people who saw so, and

andando the careria they were a man that had this

how was the mules the cargadas. But never this

how it they've been where they did it? Ah, nothing more they were and they said

they were they're going costalitos I personally know that some bultitos of 25

kilos of 30 kilos of lones of resistant to guard the money

there so a last a question very interesting

in quite a few these important there there

many mythos about questions of coveas that are that

are sure depending the times depending on the people here your

server has a very very very grab a one

a day of this of May that the first

ray that's the first ray of the sun that where

comes the first ray here in a in a

in a in a bar that in a tepusa, in a risk there, pegs that ray of sol, and there's

supposedly the care of Martin Toscan. O'Rele. It's the first ray of sol, there you have to look at it. I've been two or three times for there to come to, but never to want to look at, I'd say, my dedication is

to bring a raise there of the serro, which are the camotes of the serro, and to the earth, and to bring the earth to air for the whart. And from what it can be, well, I see one or another thing that

I interest for there to say that's in the first ray of the sun that's all that's

exactly in the where is he's there he's he was with pure salasas and monadas

of the gold. It's said that here in our there's much

ore in cuevas or to the coast of the river for the question of

the cristeros. I think in any that in that is I'm

in that in anywhere there there there totally of court.

Nicotija that was this zone minera where there there there was

that's there he did the there he was I'm I can tell a

story breve of a person that was very this he was

the he was he was in the general in the municipality in the

yearbaugh in a lagoon there a Who knows that laguna, nobody, at the most,

I know, because the Lord, I mean, he was where he was in, but he's

he's not he said that he, he's got a media and all the bolsitts fulls

of money, some of other of other of and some relations that were they were

custodian from Puebla that that was that money was that was

he and there and there they, and there, and not knew to get to

to go to the laguna, for the laguna, they're in that press, there's there to

have been that's a place, it's a par to go to go to go to but you're

to be able to get to get to that you know, I mention about the times.

Yes, this, yeah, I'll reterer the features, this, there,

there are there, there are, there's in pergamins, pergaminos, are pieces of the

pieces of paper, well illustrated, where they're narrs how is the excavation

but much people know their places there's there's a question to ask a person that have 70,

80, 80 years that they can't accorded to the arras here your server has been met

to mapas I know various places, various places. Here you know that

many people know but like you said, of me they were or

can say that power this abusation you trying you

this evidence for that other ganar money so so not not so

not so it's a one an anecdote outside where a where a person

was for the busk of the and when he found the he said

this person me I said putte to work to go

to go and you go and you get over and I

didn't I went all the armions for a other

the there were the garraones of us, we went, or if it went to the first, the first bendition, the number I, and I said, yeah, take these monedities,

to you have a bladero, do you, and never, all the contrary, and then I'd, I'd help to carry my things. Yeah. Juede the way,

well, the, how it's called, to call it a little, because I think, in this, is very so, you mention that you say,

that you're, that's a lot. So, so, so, even, this, orita, I'm, I'm trying,

I'm trying to manner, this, like you mentioned, to put the feces when I never to make, or particularly to

your family, where you are, for in a case, no, you know, you know, you know,

what's called, what's called to do you. Sure. Yeah, and it's well, it's good, because it's

right. And, I'm the time, this, I'm, this, thank me the opportunity,

then, when you're when you're when you're , you can't to talk if you want it's

a time of all what I've lived yeah I see yeah I'm

so so for that the people well more than we're more than we're

really so for there is a only form of contact is

for telephone right this the same I you

have to be a little more more in this

and with with with with this for there I

I what I can say for Yeah, it's the 353 123

126 78080 0000 we can connect if no my name is

Juanuel Magallon Flores but me say the humil or

the gambusino if you don't want to let me say me is the gambusino

immediately there is there there's by me I've said that had said

they were a person imagine how is defective Don Manuel, that for there they were saying that you

was scarvading in that place and I paid a dinner, but not it was you. Here, I want to do, also, to be in the penit of

to say that many people me have accompanied and have made to make a creder that they're to come before

that I get. Yes. Sin, but here I'm present. I personally those attend. No,

I don't have succursals. Now, so, so, and thanks to God I've got

I'm much muchisim a job but I'm don't know to go to go to go to

get to get to your house your property that they have their

lot in the asienas yeah that I have done lots yeah all the

part of of the Najarit and some of some of some some of

some the other in the extra also I'm there's

another I'm I'm and, and looking for there, also a garret of

some, uh, revolutionaries who were there, so there's some things, that those, they were there,

some, some shepherds, some spas, those, some chuchillos, they encountered, but, dinner,

no, for to be, this, this, this, uh, but, but they

got to, I'd like, I'd want, but, now, so, now has been

the opportunity to, yeah, so, no, so interesting. Before, before

last, another question, Lord, Manuel, no they have contracted to to find

some family or something? From there some years where there were some chockes that no

were, where, how they called, where they were those those where they're

in the night in the madrogada me solicited and with much good I

gave to give to give us and testimony and where the other but

if I want to I a group of Guadalajara that me is now that's solicitant to to know

where there are cemeter and their service and their server in really is he's thinking it's

dangerous no me I'm I'm able in that but if in something I'm

I'm the location mandermen me a what'sat this with with just sender me

and I'm just give me and I give me a person that's yogue one of a man

of a man who accompanied to pescar, he was, he kept, yeah, to come to us, I with us, no, no, never, was, it was another group. This, yeah no,

regressor- and they, they were here with his servitor, and me said, and I said, I was, I'm able to arrimar, but I can't, know, I know all the area of the press, and let me

to work, and I'll say, in a moment, I said, and, yes, I did the location, and there was the, and there was the, and the mucho, no know,

this, he's top with a colmen of the abejas, and there he got them

the abeyas. But as not to get it made it, he's met here trying to cover it

and so that's in that there's a place, and there they're they're

they're not, so, so, so, so, so, so,

right, that's, I'm mentioned abegas, my mom used to other methods,

not the radiostetia, I, but as a method. And precisely he took to attend a

case where observing the flamas he said to the people who were looking to their family and got to

get a person of these and a person that's he's got to his escape to his house

so the then the he went he didn't he got with my mom and they asked

oh yes we're we're we're my papa let me you know you know

you know in a place like a noria but he when he's he's just he's going to he's going to

and what he was the abeyas in some occasions I'm also like a other recourse

for I've put the flama in the final of the oil and the flama me indica

also where there's there's there's there's there's where is what we're looking

yeah yeah that's never never I'm That's heard. That's also, this is very servicial, but there's a, what class of Vela, you have to put. Oh.

It's, it's a little special. Yes, me suppose, it has to be to be done. The, the pendolos, this, no, that no, that's the, I'm, this, I'm, this, I'm, now, so, I'm expert in my bars. I respect to all, with what you marken, but I, this, I, this,

I give testimony with my bars that I have I've said, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I've said, that for you, for you've said, no, there's other method, better than the baras. More than the barra, exactly.

Well, well, it's a question a lot interesting, Don't Manuel, I'm to ask you to know, but now, you know,

and I'm sorry, I think, I'm sorry, you know, to see, you know, and one's talking, one to talk,

I think this will be a bit more, you're a little more, this, you work, your time, your

desire to get to get to get to get to things, and think, believe, what I'm,

that I'm, that's, that's, that's be honest, like here your server you're doing. I've lived, I'm going to do you know what I've been talking. Yeah. A me not been

talking, and I see stories that have been told. Histories that have come have given, like a rosario. I want to live my experience. I'm talking to, I'm talking to your servitors, the experience that I've

had taken. To me, nobody me has told this. This has lived, personally. I've lived. I've seen, Juan Manuel Magallon Flores as known as the humilde.

Buscator of the of the desoros. You can say, why not. Yes.

Well, a practice a question interesting, of the really, I thank much much

for acceder and I hope that the last time. Of the course, when you

invite here, I'm not like the promises, but I'm

to try something to I'm found. I'm hope that's it

Pronto. Sure that so. Well, well, so, I'm sorry for

to give us to get to the final of this chapter. I hope that has been of your love,

that has been so interesting as it me appeared to me, equal for you.

No, you know, in the next chapter of the next month, the next Marches,

to be the MED Martin's. I'm sorry, to all all. Until the the next.