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Episode Date: May 7, 2024

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is that the MIRT not to work not to be not over or the when you

when you when you're a little to do you always always he's he's he's

I'm made to this momada eh at the chile I know no is my

problem I don't I don't I'm but so that there's the thing

there was there I'm specifically specifically how he was he was

he was his hands on the arms and he encorbed, so, and I

came to and I'm going to be to make a bit of the I'm in front, I'm going to start a

mind that I'm seeing my men, I'm sitting in the like if were an NPCs like,

so, quietas, like manikis sentados, and a out of the water I was over

I'm going to get over my papas and not in the department and I saw the

and I had come and the hand over and it was and it I was going

something something. The problem was that when I was when I was he was left over the room

with the court with rumble to get me to the house. Ah, no manches.

A past that I was oxygenating with the pressure being, I had all

I was I was and I could be and I did you know I've been a

the that I had more affect. When I get the Wi-Fi

of, oh, wait, they're doing this they're doing this not the

question, we're to do you want to do you? So, what did you happen to

her? Passed to a new chapter. To get the more with Jesus, of Nazareth

Martines. In this occasion, dear our people, I know that you

see that you're always recognize the studios, we we're

we're we a very special. In this occasion we're with Chucho El Catrine. Ah, how beautiful.

Never me had done the very much. Neither when it was really. How are you? Jesus. Oh,

much thanks. Thank you. Much of it. Thank you. Much of it. When you want you want you. I always

I've said. That's the space of the person of the person rare. Here I'm here. Thank you.

Many thanks. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. For there, so me me very

good that we'd contact to this Paco Hasiel

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm like a oh yes

you're oh yes oh yes oh when you when you see the things

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but

let's say ah let's a let's yeah yeah

yeah I'm really I'm so you know no no when you

know you're you to do you're so there approximately. Oh,

I hope that if you can realize all this. Before to start, my God, we're saying that the world is more real

than the world natural. You think that's so? The world is more, I'll say because I'm going to

say, because I think there's more things that we can't see, of the that we can't be.

And for me that is the paranormal, is that. Something that has been an explanation but

no we can't be like the Wi-Fi. I'm yeah. Quitaste the

word so paranormal because right it's a peccable to say that that's a no no no and more

in podcast eh no oh oh oh boy right right we're we're not we're not

we're no I'm I'm going to we're going to we're going to do you know I have a good

in respect yeah there's a there's a capital special of that type yeah

yeah yeah yeah quantity quantity but But, well, another occasion, it will be. Yeah, it'ser in another occasion.

This, look, me da much to have a chapter different, because the vibra is a different. So, the, the,

the chapters regularly don't so much, but I love. So, so, then,

I'm doing this response that you know, I think, you know, some of, experiences of indoleneutory.

Bastantes. Bastant. Since, because I was a little in a thing, six years,

I had when passed the first, that I remember because I'm my mom I think a

I'm a remember of a dream of a that's my mom my mom me passed when I'm

when I'm like you remember you do you know I'm I'm quite I'm quite I'm quite

because I never even we've been in the house in your papas we've been

we've been we've to let's because I can't because I in my my

was a department very small with two quarters in where separate the passio

the cellar the sillon you know so the the sillion was so the sylion and how was

that was going to something because I remember I'm in the dream

and I came to the cell and see a person parada there

I'm I was that was a a Brouca, because me I said that

I was going to go to see that how I'm where I'm where I'm where I'm

where I'm I'm I'm sitting in the sill as like if were an MPCs

like so, quietas like manik sentados completely immobiles and

out of I was going much I was I was I cried for my

papas and they were how the Brouca, the she was up the shi- and

encorvable and he had a mind of the hand of the hand of the mind, even if I

went to get to the sillions. It was something and you're going to say,

well, that was a way, it was a not it was not a normal. The problem

was that when I was when I had been dormido, I'm downed

down the the court with the with rumbo to get me

to the house. Ah, no manches. There was when the things started.

My mom was he said, because I said that was very difficult to control

me, because I put me very very hard. She said that I said,

oh yeah, Chucho, this, no, uh, come back what you have been for

here, you're done, you're that's all this all this, all this,

oh yeah, the cabron! You know, so because my she was, and was a

chanclas but not so not non-s-o not-s- solos but I'm

but I'm to get back to work to talk to talk about

to talk about with the eyes and many others came with the

eyes and and I and I and I was saying they were very

complicated What was, a see He wants to get to get to be

and apart, he's that's something something that something what's

what's what they're doing this? My papas got more to the church

Catholic much more and decided put me a medall that's called the

medall the cross of carabaca oh no, no, no,

no I know it's a the cross but they're like

piquito and apart it's like two Angeritos and other piquitos Why? Why me they were

because at the rise that I had to I'm really to know that's the stomach,

of the body respiratorias and all of that. Now I'm doing glicks with that I'm,

I'm I'm, I'm, but well they've been to do that and they're going to

start a and so much times and they were things similar but

no I don't know I was I'd I'd and I'm I'm conversations with

conversations of the type of you know you're going to going to be going to come for me you're going to things like conversations

extra conversations conversations extranees me I sent over in the room and I put to be talking about

with the no manches and I put you about in the I'm not I don't know that's something

that is something that is something I don't remember because there like five or six years but I put to

talk about with the space or with the roperer the door and I put to talk to

talk about something a little ropero a yeah, of those that they're

like the you're like the you're like three circulates and those of those of the that was the

abelita all the roper that was that was that was that was so I just I

had that so I would be I sat down in the camera and me put to to talk

with something there's never nobody didn't know that I'm because they're

saying that people who said I'm doing so they're like like so shusur and he

but so that there there's the paranormal in my natural pardoning

me yeah yeah yeah yeah I put you put you me

put you no no no but it's no it's in these days

that I've been interviewing people here in the city of Mexico a person

that's having attacks demoniacos with their family in their

house comment that who can see that that this type of

in a closet is a a new a new his own he said papa

look there's there's there he's there's literally the

death he's a moro a man and the the

the little also I mean, I'm a entity grand demoniac was in the

house he's that the little many people in the house and that one

and then he's a end up the and the entity and the

thing that's that's no, that's all no, it's no,

it's okay and think that I mean not, I mean not me

many many many times in this aspect but so, so, so,

photographs with the a little bit of a little photographs in the fairia, in the call and there are

in the entities demoniacas in the sombras, in the car in the sopa, in all parts.

Oh, and why, why so, look, he said, he said, he was that he

suspected of that he had to be a bit with his husband. Oh, okay. He, he, uh,

because he, uh, he, uh, see, he had casted one a he was a

carer. But it's that he went to a work of a

work of a mother. No. The own. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a proper, it's her own. So, his own mom. So,

so, so, this case, this is the man, Kamauch, the person. Oh,

for there more going to go to be going to see, but yeah. No,

I imagine has to be a decoferant. And it has be desperante because how

you'll explain to a little bit of a how you know what you say you're saying what you say what you say what's like

to start I'm not so yeah yeah yeah you you're

you're you're many people but this this person so all his family for possessions

wow possessions this poltergaste oh just that just that respect

of the brugery uh I I want no like me going to

do you go to do but there's there's like you think you a bit of

there are there are there are they put in they're and to and a people

think that the people they're they're they're doing something I'm you

you're exactly exactly so it's like it's I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm you come me a some some people

And there's one specifically with that they're that's the Santa or the like they're like they're

saying, no, I'm saying. So, I don't know, so, so, so,

I'm, my response is for that but I'm, but I'm what I've seen, is that

the murder not a way to do not over or over. So, so when you

you're you're something, and it's something always, always, always, never

always, always, and always go with the person and says, Oye,

I'm to make this mom that's a manned to do you know, I'm not

my problem I'm not I'm not I'm not but that's the thing. I'm

if you are a I'm going to get the the goal of the of the

of those that I did I talk about I'm I've got a vision

yeah of an altar that we're to to us to us

to us to us because because I, with the I always I've been like my respects,

but I don't I'm never and I'm never, and when we talk we're we're going to get to my

head to my car be, me gets by the Wi-Fi this is the figure that is this, the place

is this, this and this is what they're and it's like and it's and in that moment I'm

with the person with the person with I was a place so, so, sure. I see what is.

I've seen. I saw in where was, and this person knew in that in that place. So,

for me is very like, as a fact that the people that make a thing,

that's that's that's in a lot of that's in a lot. I mean, me protect

the chat. No, carnal. The net is that The net is that is that no you know,

not you know, not to you, not to be nothing to do anything so much a band that makes a brujeria

like that is a like, but in reality is that no and that and that really is a

so-and-a- in a rebote horrible. Yeah. In this case, in the

case of the child that's coming, then is that all his family is

having broncos. Yes, they're infestated. They're infestated. In

something has a or the Santa Mourte. That there I'm that I'm,

there's a here I'm here I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the I'm just to give a

I'm a that's a other that's the other yeah yeah there's

I'm a because I know with the with her with her uh much

many times I've I've talked I'm I'm much affinity for the

for the image for the figure of the Santa Morte is the

of the color is the No, mammy, so. So, this, this

me they've got to give a Marash, that I send a man, I'm a

man, I, I, I'm, I'm a much, much carino, for the

reason, that my mom, much time, I'm, he was, he'd give a

time, my mom and I had all his energy for his workerer

and you have a reason in something, or so, always there's an intention with the

energy, because this has an energy. But one decides to do it, but one decides to do, so,

for all, there is karma, for all. So, if you're doing it's the law of life, it's not

to be bad too. If there there's a good energy, also, it's, also,

so it's, so is, so is. I do you that no, no, no, why

to have, the, all the, the situations where there's, this, this prejuice for the

image, is for the people, so, yeah, so, you know, the,

the comments, those, then, then, then, they're, reventing, for whatever

thing, so, so, you can't, you know, you know, you're, so,

yeah, because, yeah, not, because, yeah, but I, but I don't,

but I, if we we're, we're, so, if you can't that's right. You know,

you know, you know, and you know, because I think you know that because it's impartial. It's an image impartial

and all to have that impartiality to that they're attacking, you're saying, oh yeah, oh yeah,

Carnalito, as, like you says, you're going to say this, but to me man,

but to me man, it's, yeah, and now it's very controversial in about the

thing, but I do that they're because they're a lot, and I

have said, I've said, too, I've said, if you are you

do it and you see a mind, you know, you know, that's, oh,

I'm going to attack, or what, what, what's going to a altar, and say, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, do,

say, let's, you, let me, a friendita, a moneda, a fruitita, what you

do you know, no, you know, you know, you know, you know, just it's like to respect, uh,

yeah, and it's not going to how it's it's that there, the angelito and I

have a story. Yeah. Because the, because, you know, when I went to

the angelito Negro, I, I gave a friend just to that just maybe

say, no, no, I don't know, just as like, carnal, chido, you and I, no me do, no you do, there's that. And Alexis me

says, tomate, the form of to serve the offrenda is serving the tequila in two caballitos, put the caballito to him and

to take the other. Yeah. He'd be the cabllito to him, it was, a tequila a blue reposate,

you know, color amber. Yeah, yeah, me to make the tequila more insipid that I've

tried in my life, I mean, no, the tequila because the tequila is only I've been to

, but I'm the other place, it's the most insipid that I'm sure.

I'm super I'm a water with tequila, I mean, very different. We're doing the interview.

We'll, la, la, la, la. And we looked at Lexis and me said, look, I'll be the caballito,

it was a black, so transparent. Me says, if, so I'm so I'm to talk about

to you, me, so, man, so, so, no, that's,

no, that's, carnal, but there we'll say something that you're going to say something that's when you're

going to get to the camera, that came to that's a image of that way, and it was really chistos

because I said, well the maybe first, uh, at a little I mean, uh, but with

these lenses not can't see, then so when I opened the down the but I never never,

but I never never did at any moment that's what's what is happening? Yeah, No, no.

Yeah. Yeah. So, it's, it's, it's been that we're so we're, yeah,

it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah,

here, we're just, right, just, just, and just, and I'm, well,

I, I said, it's the of colors, because he yeah, because he gave,

the case, yeah, yeah, this, this, this, um, my mom

always took the, the, uh, the, so, so, curious is that when

when I was interviewed this person as a kind of a kind of a question to be an interviewer I gave

a real deal a little a little your interview after the final and a medium improvised I don't

I'm trying to I'm not to the next you're going to see oh it with a with a

brazo with those brazote this and you and I we're we're talking

we're he's this encargated of some societies of the, of the Santa Mewart, well,

I was, and I was, I was, no, no, no, I'd cause a no,

no, no, for the style. So, so, I was, I was really,

she, I was really, and I'm me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm,

oh, man, no, come, no, so, and is that,

what, so, what's so, is that my mom, had two, and the

two was had And that also also comes in without a wow

so you you're going seeing curiousito your mom your mom had a black

of the black of the black totally black totally totally black totally black have

they're symbolology of colors yes they're different different significations

different energy depending of the color but of the color

that they they're they're they the same okay so so

the color not the color not to determine that they're to be

they're doing that's that's attrowing the money so yeah those colors

in reality no no no is much what they they're the image sure

oh I know what's so yeah here we're we're

there's we're that just he maybe yeah oh Juan well

yeah yeah yeah who no It's that there we're going to to do a video

and my company is called Felipe Cambron. So that's for that I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm sorry because yeah, no, no, no I'm not no, I don't know.

I don't very well well well well, well, in these things,

you've had been other experiences yeah interesting yeah yeah

this this I'm this I'm that's that I I don't know how

is the role with me because I I had a manned he was a metaphysical and in a

point he was having problems, like he he was he tried to and the net is that

we didn't congenia not congenia much in ideas, he and I, for questions familyaries

then so so that so I'm so I'm but I'm I said, I said,

I've always had been a affinity like with the paratural, you know, with all the terror, like that's always I've seened much. And I was very me

meados. I was, I'm really, I mean, I said, no, those times that you'd have fear, you're seeing the and it's like,

to be the show, I said, no, yeah, me going to carry here. This is when I've got

seven years, between six, seven years. In the case of my house of my father there's a alberka. Alberca No more profound

of metro 20, meter and a In this My brother and I Generally, for the most Two times At least two times

We're Let's get us To get us to Hugar Cabe Recalcar that my Amora

than I Yeah So, then I was When I When I When I'm When I'm

When I'm I'm I'm the Pylon No me They're I know I see that not

fiel desired. So, we were nat-a- and we were the Titanic.

In- when we had to do it was the form of doing it was, I was

a day, and then then it and then me, I'm, I'm going,

I'm the Titanic, and I see the Titanic, and I see the in a moment in a

moment, I'm going to go to the other side, I'm undes, me rio, I'm going to

the other side, and when I'm going to going to the other side, I'm going to

get to get to the right. Exactly right. Yeah. And I started to

read. Because it was the game, no? Yeah, I was to be to be

to get, and I got to the repretto more more and more

back. And I had a moment where I could not continue the

head out of yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll and I'm gonna Anna,

and my my mother justly in quite I'm here my mom with the armes

saying I'm no say oh no manches and just when I do this in a

when my my mom to say I'm not I'm the same the same so

with a with a so I'm I'm I'm I'm back to be

a man of a man of a man of a man of so, but not agarandome like with the dead, but with the eyes,

like, in the stares, like, enthrand me in the unas. And my mom went to be my mother, my mom

my mom me halla to a little bit and it's not a so I'm being a year,

well, I'm trying to be able to do you know, no, no me could be able to get to

my brother, my other brother's and he's back, my brother my brother

my brother's, my mom, of the other, and at the two me that they were to

my court. In when they went to my court, I'm

I'm I'm that I'm to talk to get to because I know the I'm

to put in to play. I'm I'm and I heard, and I remember

I'm quite very that my father out from, from

my window, I could see the literally directly, he

he's he and he and he starts, I'm I'm remember

to I was, I wascaba, then they were in the water, in a while they're in the water,

I'm going to see the water, but the water is like if were a loo. Like if

was a super super-sucia and you you goy and you're the water limpia, it was the water

that was a sucia, water sucia, water black. So, a part of there,

my papa to say to my tio, my tio begins to like, to say, and I'm

I don't know what, and I said, well, tranquill for our family, it's very common that's a

your prima, or her his wife, see people that's not there. He said, he said,

I'm going, so, people who your family, those can see, and your

prime has this, and so, and so, and so, and so, and then they're,

and then they're, it's, to make a, like, to give a,

Since seven generations The family For part of my Papa Is it A lot of Why?

For some Roryo That's there A-Morio That's And the And the And the reason

Of this Is because This amorio So it's In Veracruus In Catemaco Cato

Cato Exactly Nothing more Not And With that I'm Like this

I'm I'm And then I continue, I'm going to, I I'm going to see certain things, something, I,

I did something, I did something, I was to doble like, like, like a piquet, and it was put it on

the piquet, and I started I to play to give to do it and I thought that

was something that was that one day I went to to the tina of my father, was my

and I said, how does this so just just like, well just just a solito start a like a

like if he soplarah but no he's over but no you're not you know you know

and you and then that's not normal and then and then yeah to up

up and we we're we're we're we're just we're we're just

more things my my dad my and a one that

a man that was a but could be Like, like, for the band that not understands how

it's, the people no, they're, then. So, they're in presences.

How do they do? No, I know how it's how it's that they're an arbor, know that

there's a poste, you know, that's a person, so this seego, how I knew I was

because I had caused much intrigue, I said, I said, is that, you know, how does that

you know, how does me, I mean, I was I wasercrowered. And I saw his eyes. His eyes

were full of catarats. It was obvious that I was because those eyes were black. And one day

I remember that my father he said, I always came with his morralito of

of costal and his baston. He sent in the commed and I heard that

was over, I was there had arrived I've gone and in quite being

and he said I'm quite I'm sure and I'm like like and I say, yeah I'm

and I last I'm I'm back I'm at the pirul he's still but the cabron

I was that I was I'm and I'm right we're going to go to go back

and I'm and my pap and my my papa and oh no that's that's my that's my

that's my he's he said the hehito, I'm he's talking to him.

And he kept viewing my and he said, I'm so I'm so I'm going to

all right and I'm subo and the ancian and I had a a barita

to find water so that so it to play with the bar well

to use to use the bar and and then was obviously I'm I'm

I'm and I'm but he was out to and I

move to I'm to move I'm so I

But, but a part of that moment my my my people are my more to get a

community, I'm more Catholic. So, so, all that I tried, shh.

It was minimisar. It was started to be a little, I know, well,

I know, I was, because see, I was, but they had, but they

had, but they was, that could do you did, and I'm And...

...mustantly was something that was to start in the madugada. I don't doorms

only. I could doorms only, not to be able to move the camera.

Or me I'd and I heard a voice that I was... It was super

grueza that was five, four, three, two, one, five.

But, it was it was, it was, it was like, it was like,

one, two, so. So, so, mal pedo. So I was to talk the doors

of the quarters of my, of the quarters of my two of the stuff about and all right. And all right.

And I got that my mom me agabrasable and me put it in the camera and me abasable until that

me kept to be done to be done. This I'm talking to be a lapso since

that I'm after I've been like nine. After the nine years now no me passed

nothing, but no could not could do only I could do not could do.

It was something inconceivable for me. Until that of a repent, then my

my parents are in the university and then I'm obliged to do not to be to do with my

papas. Dormying only, I don't I want to keep to my court.

I went and me dorms in the court of my two and me again to

do you in my court and all all that's all that

one day I'm I'm a recurrent. I don't see if there's someone in the

public that we're going to help to this, because I've never 10 years without

what I'm in that in that a new but it's very recurrent very recurrent for the

least after three years, I was only one one once a month. In this

dream I go with my family to a museum similar to

Partenon with the columns all. Entram and there

three purters. In the front, there's a picture that is

of the conquest. They're Mexicas and the menhika's and

this side there's a night Triste and the this

side there there a can't a with a

with a penach with a spada and a casco of

Conquistador Every one of the pictures has a has a a port above I always

I'm in the because at the other when I was when I was when they were a party and at last

there was so I had the door and I opened the door and when I was

I was I was I was and it was I was not I saw it I was

not that was that was that was the interior of a pyramid and it was to

and it there were pictures and like grabados and there an torch

that that illuminable all that illuminable all there there there

a little ohio with flowers like so sumied in the like where where

where they put in the cryptas so so so with with

with with with the the front there a reja

of not not of metal solid but it like of the

alarm interlaced Yeah I'm not I'm called the alambes literal

an alarm like like so and this other

side there was a pass there there and in

the middle the the place to the to the

a a a a the passio there a person

sated in the piece with a baculo and a always me forget

how they're in the in the old the the not not

a cacara a chicaa a hikara a was a was a chicaa was a

one of the and it was a person very very very very an

I'm I'm sure that not the murder was a person

very very but so an ancient that was a

car calaver. His hands just could have been stride because they're

all right and they was a old old like you know like you like you when you're

in the movies, like those oldies like that's like you like that the problem

was every every time I was I was I'd and I said because not could

pass to where I was to the other other side when I when I was in front of

him I was to be to no well no-se. Okay. Dammel what you and then,

I'm, like, to see, I'm, like, to be, I'm, no, I'm, what you know what you're, you know what you're, to do, give me, damn it. But what is? No, you know,

no, you interest to know what is, damn it, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but what you want? What I do? Never, never, in all the years

that I never, never me said, that was that that was that, that was that that was, but I always

me I said if you not you don't you do you do me because I

do it I do I'm with the bacul in the hand the baccule

I was a a cadenita with plums and it was I think

I mean a a meter 40 or a 50 or 50 the

bacul the total I was to start to the other

other side, and there were much camas of the enfermos. In these camas of there was a child, a person young, that

was a person doing all. And then there was a anciano, but this time vestio of black, that

was a good, and he was all was doing to all over. And when I was I was

going to be being. And me said the chabob, no you don't you don't let's

care to be here. Here you you're here. There's And I was somed

by the orilla of where they were in the structure known to be a know if someone

who knows that is a panopticon which is a structure in where the those of the but you

don't you can't see the you can't be and if you're in you're at those of the

but the down you can't be to be to be to be to see up but to see up

so that's so it's so it's so it's so it's that was that structure and it was

an structure interminable like that's right and to be I don't know I'm going to the

top of the top of the top of the and I'm there's a there's but he was in a

way you know that you know it was a very continually and there was a when I met in the

mind the crypta of the clifely the the place I'm

up up up the of the pyramid in the the

sea and there a there a broca there a I can describe specifically how

he was parable and how came about. He had his hands recogied here to the sides, the shoulders and then were in the pointas and encorvada

so. And I'm so the ladit when I me was a much fear, but I discovered that no me

did not. Only it only was I put in front and after the time it was to imitate all what I did it.

If I was I was had to be a lot, too, I was actually, also I was actually exactly the

same as I'm, so when I was able to control how I'm and the only that was

I'm sitting and when I was sent him and when I went to be and I was and I was to see,

to see, all the to be there to be to be able to start me saying that was a

dream. Let's let be to put that that's let me know if someone can do

know, it can come go disemanae Because, a part of that was when they're

when they're things like raras when when you're like to like to start,

that I'm that's a little bit of the theme of the term the thing to get to get

another time for me and they're to happen to happen to happen in the

place in where I went to to present service Catholic I know a

sacerdote exorcista that me says receive you, I'll see here, I'll I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to I'm sure and so many things in where many people me say, I know someone a person

a budu to a a man who you trys you're like the you're doing you trys something

you trys something don't you don't you do you do me and I say to what chikas and they're

and they're and you're I always I've been, I know that from this point, probably many people have much a man, that I'm going to say, oh, yeah, me, cabrooos, and you

say, you're always the contrary. But this this time, I'm going to have to have been meos. I mean, I know, I know very well my body, and I know very well how functioned the things that are the and of a sudden, things begin to

get to be a form very strange. Of a form very, very extrana, in where I I'm going, is that this is that

rare. So, this yeah, not a chido. A on a lot of to do you

get to get a bit to get very simple. I'm, it's very common that I'm

like I'm so, I'm do you know, I'm going to get to and get to get it. Yeah, it's

so I'm then I'm to get to get to with friends with people, and then it

turns to get bruchery and it brugia, well, I don't know any other

brugery is so chida well, all the that's the do you know, no, and no,

and the worst is that the way in the way it was, it was like, always to be the

more you dole, you know, that's, that's not that's not, so,

so, so, then there is when I know, I'm, then, what I'm that I'm

that I'm to use it, no, so, you need to try to move to move

things, until that you discover like, I mean, I can't I'm going to do things.

You know, like I'm like, like, controlling more energy. Yeah. And,

and the things are to change to be much so. It's just something that

something that I always I've said, when you intends to have

the control, all all along. Including, for that also, when you do you

sometimes, sometimes the things are in mal. Because the universe understands that you want to have the control over that person

or over that situation. No flue. No flue. So, when you're doing, you say, okay, accept all this, how is it? The things change. Asy. And, well,

so, yes, Jesus, is that sad, that's been the rleggia. It's interesting. It's interesting. You're pedian that you'd give to do.

Well, I don't know is the don in specific but if it was something, it was a person he was

a person, I'm going to that that's an entity was one of your your

your life and I wanted that you did you the you're

that you that you not you know that you other person me said no way

that you that you saw you that was in reality was that I wanted to

keep with what you trails, with the don't that you're in there's a

very much. Yeah, it's very much. Yeah, it's about it. Cases, I'm sure, I'm

almost, I'm think, I'm doing the every one of whatever, because it's something I know, I

have got to understand. Yeah, I mean, I'm a idea of what he said,

the an answer, the Anciano that I'm to give to the other those people,

but who was the idea, who was the idea, what was the the rea that there was

that was in the idea I don't I don't think idea of there's a because never could enter

one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the yeah it's I'm very

strangeissimo because it's all too so much I'm gonna make the the man like there

there was something not she felt solid but you know you can't you know

you know you know you're in a in a brinkolin so so you know

like you you like if you So that, so, like, so it was. Is that in these

things, there's, uh, patrons, references, things that a way to get to understand or

not get to know to say, to know, clearly, right that we were out of the air, you'd

to talk about this person with that was talking, precisely before a hour's, uh,

that's evident, it's a fient, fickate, I'm just a little, I'm, I'm,

I'm septic, because I've have lived things. Sure. Yeah, but not you

don't you don't get exactly. Exactly. I mean, I'm sure. I'm not so I'm

sure you know, many people who do you get to get to money to the people.

So, in that aspect, I've tried to be a good enough because we

talk with all type of people. Sure. So, so, so,

so. So, it's maybe, you shakas a capit

where one person is auto-nombring that and the result of that it is. So it's

complicated, it's complicated. So this person to say things that now I can't say,

yeah at the beginning I was septic for the reason that me to be a question to

me and I serious. These people, those who are those who are those who are are experts in manipulation.

And so, and you're on those emotions, exactly. So, so, so, so. So, so. So, then,

so I'm, so I'm so much, I'm, I'm sure, tranquil, me said, I said,

you know, you said, you know, so, so, no, if, no,

so, no. And not's a person expert to say, that, but when says the

name of my my abuela, there if you get as kind of this is real, and there's real, and there's, to go.

To what I go to this is that I'm saying things clear as all this all this has been to

with situations over-natural are open interpretations because are patterns. Sure. So,

not is a map well- so, so, so, so, are so,

so, are so, so, so, so, then it's, it's things that can be that are

scenes that at the more you know you know you can't do you do you

like that's okay because it's the it's the it's the thing with this situation with

this she said a lot a lot of a little a little a place and I said

no no no with me no but when me said no manches I mean

I don't have to see in this if he would be I've said this, this information, to one of my

my father, my father is put to to cry. Sure. So, a little information is

but Chancy, not it's for you. It's that I've told. Even, I said to a little to a little

with a time that I'm that I'm and I'm and she and she said, no, no, no, no,

you know, you know, no, no, so, so, family. To all, to all, to all,

but no, no, no, only one, only one, uh, if I'm said,

I think, I've seen that picture. I mean, it's a picture, and a

image very recurrent, it's very common, but not the colors, the colors and the

tones, because I have in the case exactly like what tones and what colors are,

and me to describe this, this person, that is of my family. And he says, I've seen that

I've seen that I've seen and I've seen and he's so yeah, and it's a thing, it has a franca

and has a yeah, it's that's this color, but none of the two never will be never, yeah, but it's a very interesting, car, man,

it's that's that's something, is that something is something that me I said, well, okay,

I'm, I'm, but what, so what, what's this what, what's the what's the

instruction or is an adrucuit or what is? So, so there is when I'm to be a preoccupate to

say, what I'm what I'm what I'm trying I'm to investigate, consult to consult a

person, I'm doing some don't of the medium, tend to something, I'm, I'm,

I'm, so I, but I'm too, I'm so, so, I don't

I'm So, so I never like, like, I, like,

like, like, about to talk about because I know, I know, I'm,

I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, that's, like, that's, I'm,

so, no, I mean, doesn't get to , and, but I

don't I'm not so, capable of something, or, for the most,

I'm, so, just, no, I'm, I'm, this guy's,

it's attributing capacities that not obtain and then I prefer prefer like to the chile pass to this

and I know what's but so it's a form but it's but it's it's alma

liber yeah I'm a indigo the net yeah yeah that's

so is good is good you're you're you're open to all these

situations sure yeah there also there also I'm

to you go to a one a invite that we

got this not out of camera. I'm not going to say who was for the not

it's but it's very chistos how the people who do they're made made because they're

like tithes similar have to a family similar they've got to say this and that

thing is that thing is getting there's there's this chica this chica this chica

us that one that she was with that she she had, had like much

facility, not much a great, much a very much she was, even she

went to the woman of this person and he found a colibri a marrado. Yeah,

and that she said, ah, well, it's like a, so it's like,

no, when we know, when we know, he said, he said, I'm

then I'm that it was, but, but, but, and, and,

that person started to do like certain things with her and this he detoned

in that her attitude changed to start to start to hear to hear more more more bad

more depressed because of the time was depressed not I didn't do things other

so changed completely her form of a a form of a

way a kind very depressive aggressive so like

to the defensive all the time like, so, well. So, she said that she

detected that this should be and decided better to be to this person. In

when it he's that he that all that's this was a six years

and we he was he he's he he's he's he's

that person continue doing to the under after the fact

and he says I didn't I I don't know because since I

separated from him like, I felt really, I was really, I felt like, and I was

like, I was like, I'm going to be able to be, but for the time, and he says that's doing

that's doing something to be to do a little to do and

we know he's just like not it's like, it's has been there's

Delegitos, but still standing there insistent and just his mom he's a time with

the Santa as the angelito Negro, said of other form. So, like,

there is that she says that I don't want to be in this circle and what

I'm doing is like, I'm like, I'm doing a clean and start to

change with the type of music that I that I I've that I

I'm I'm with the form in the form in that I'm I'm going to I'm

I'm ready that I'm that I'm I'm sure so that so it's so it's so it's

and it was very so it's because in when we're this many things

some many with other case we we're a little that we what you

is of the molde literally is that this person is this and me and me

I'm I was, and he did this and I see that, and so I'm going to be

I've seen that story, equalita, equalita. So, it's like, it's very gracious,

how just like that all is cyclical. Yeah. All cyclical and like there are people that

in that stage, in where not evolutionan, and they're in the same those people

and they're so, so, so, so, a past that are people

are different, are right that you mentioned that case of the brujeria where not soltaba this just

has to pass not it has much eh uh... in my my mom was the the brouca

in the few words and as to you know we not we don't we don't we dedicism or

any adivination and nothing for the style but she said that while being impregnated

of all those, both, both, both, both, and my brothers

as my own, of the energies that he managed, we could have

certain facilities for that management. In one an occasion, my brother,

I'm a company, a man, and a man, a man, he,

he, he, people, that's people who get to visit. Then,

then, he's, one of his friends, and my brother, I know because immediately

me it said that he he gets being and that he gets to oh yeah that's you're gonna

nothing? Nothing? Why? Whole that Bruele that burghers a oh, no manches

cabron psalat sackat sackat just, just just I'm just just

bina to the day next chucho he he gets almost you're

he no manches we, I've got a pome with a fiatte, what curious,

curious, curious, curious, that I've an pome rojo okay. With a photographia

and a and a chiquito, like, some, some, uh, yeah,

and my brother, immediately me, you know, you know, that's the way, of this guy that o'clock

to be a burghry, that for us that's another, the color, the odor of

the The thing is that I said I said that boy that I'll go to be that I'm I'm going to do you know

that's a manches Curiously if my my brother I'm talking about I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm not They're in the same Yeah they're the same Yeah, yeah

yeah let me tell you No and right let's get to tell the rest

does the question That's de the man The relationship is very toxic Okay

Very, very toxic. My my brother me and I'm saying, oh, I see, this chingado

that's this cabron, that's, terco, terco, and she he was to his house. For there

there was a moment in which he had this lucide for a a ratico. She separated

of her and at time so it's that he was a in the carly.

You know, what that he a he a little a mochila he had a

manned in a motel that was in the mochila a not a

telephons and all what you do you carry yeah yeah the

the the balles most important on the telephone in the carter

and I don't I remember in a medial but it was grave

but it and they entered various for the head for the

abdomen, for the back, no-seye, I don't know how were the impactors but the

video is impressive because there's video. There's where they are getting and he

is a ah, ah, of what and that and you and you know,

and he finito, but he's he's he's he's he's

so, you know, so I know what gacho? That's suspect that the cabron

he was attacked by orders of this and this chick and you and a what?

He's got with her? No. Oh, oh, is that there are relations

so? There are so, but what we about we're we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're in this type of of

situations when the relation is toxic music and you do some type you know

you say of a endulamint or what you want you potentialize the

if you you're aggressive you're you're you're to be the double

of aggressive you sure you're you're you're so you like

so potential it's the potentialize the the mal character no

exactly and that's she has to move very really I

know I think Yeah, No, well, I'm, no, my respects no, me

go, no, I, I, I, I don't, I said that was the Catherine. No,

but imagine it's, it's a cabron, no, no, it's, no, it's, it's, no, it's,

that's, those, attitudes to have, to have to someone to, knowing,

even, even, even, it's, I, so, for what, I,

I, I don't, I don't, I don't, The truth is that genuinely I don't know If someone I've done

I can't I'm sure I'm sure I'm just I'm not I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure

For what It's like If you're You're saying Your coach Tren try Ponchara The yanta

Oh but that Yanta me But but but change Yeah no Pazan nothing It's been It's like

No but it's that Yanta I'm So then So you It's like you You'd

the coach functionar so, it's decompone it's all this

right, let you just you just a just like you know, you're you're not,

you're relations of relationships, relations and relations and all to the world

to get to get to because you myself are insisting in

something that's what you want to you want to and not

not so that's learn to amarsse like they're like to be the people don't have to pertaincerns

for that I'm I'm I'm still care so I'm see that even for

that's for my mom my mom I'm used to do much umars amars endlumions

and and then to me and all those things but I had I

had those reglas a a broha a broo a no imagine no it

no I was the idea of that if you you know you know, you know it's a not a point,

and of the actually I'm your relation with her, what is your relation with your relation with her,

no, well, it's my ex-novia and right and now that another another more, no,

it's a this is your chamba, no, that's a that I've seen, that you have seen,

that you've seen, no, the question is that my mother said that if there's a vinko emotional

and only there a separation for X, something, what routine, that, this, no,

I know, they're going to a relation, there's where it's where it's not, because the

other is forced and not, because it's because it's from, you know, when I'm there's,

like, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm like, I'm this

person, but it's something, but it's something in our hands because muttomently

us we're completely And also, and also, and also, it was of the firm creencia of the same

a marre where not he was a but a demadre. Now, so, so you're a cahedero,

not, to her, to her and the family? The family? Yeah, sure.

So, they're in the past, the family. But this is that cava. Oh,

do you? Do you? To be the let's that you're not heard, because production, because

production had to question no, but no, but they'll talk about in your Oh, well, oh, yeah, so, so. That's the last you.

Here, here, here my people, you know, what is the situation with me, how was my my mother, what was what

what was what was going to her, that story pesada. Pesada. Oh, very, very pesada.

In this occasion, you're the invite. Ah, yeah, no, I'm going to talk to another story.

Yeah, to be to give us to get us to get us to you. It's that ultimately has Has been

I've passed things That's That's Oh, Yeah, I mean You're

I'm saying Uh, Uh, uh, yeah, well, we're to do

we're to do the thing that I'm put in the mode of Oh,

palpito you're chingarlene We're to play Choeco O'ale to be

to be to be a guy the band that I see, I am very

affect to the reptiles Yeah I'm there's there's a

barano that's pancho It's a barano of the savannah. Very beautiful. It's, we we're doing in what it grows

a little. And apart I've got serpients. In total, I'm six serpients. Between

my most amada, was a that's a chata. Let's give a context of

this, because this is important for that understand what you know, when my

papas discover and I discover that my fascination for the animals and my

necessity to to want to help the reptiles because we have the conscience

more the idea errone of the reptiles are not the reptiles not the

reptiles they're so they're all the crocodiles the so they're those are

venosas and so what I'm I'm I'm to discover that one of my

one of my one of my um one of my um what no of my

principal Aficions? No, like my Meta or I think I'm like My, no Mission, ah-huh Mission of

One of my One of my Missions is A lot of To help this Stigma in the Reptiles Ah, okay

For many cultures The Serpients Were synonym Of medicine Of things Good, Because, because I know

If you're Seppes Most RAPE And the Forman and the that's that's curing of the

other is metying in the water. No. The serpients when something they're

bad with their system digestive, with the water, water tibia, see salen, they're getting,

and with that they're, and with that. And, and for me it's very fascinating how they

not don't crees with their body. More well, her his disfras

no crease with their disrase and they they're to make to

make a when mud, when they mudd on the people. All the reptiles. For me this is fascinating because

yeah other day we'll be about what they have the serpients and the marvellousa thing that are the

serpients. So, my papa, when he does know this, like me they're saying, but is the reptiles

are of the reptiles are of, no, and so, you know, it's that my ira, this,

this, and this, and apart, it's a part of a form of that's, that,

that's a okay. my, my Papa, like to say, well, no, I don't know

but I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm like these, the serpent you know, the people say alvinas,

in reality are leusisticas that don't have pigmentation, the alvinas have pigmentation but the leusisticas nothing.

They're even those eyes blue. And how it costs? No, so, so,

TEN. You'll me, I got, I'm, me, it's a I was

It was And for me This serpent Significable The first Vincor Affectuos of my

With what I mean I used You know, I represented Like my My dad

For the first Sayingale O'A Goh There's There's This serpent Was a

Asterisk That's called Aorchata It was The first When I Yeah I

I'd I'd I'm And I'm I'm And I'm You Well, no,

jugged between the commas, because no play. And all, and all, all, they were the

most tranquill of all the was the that was the kind of the kind of so,

it was a little bit to get to the boxes to the people, so, so,

so, so, and that was a much, to get us to get them to get them

for the people, yeah, yeah, yeah, was, it was a very,

was very really, was very really so, so, so, so,

What happens? In-cant-in-law The Santa Mewater, well, the Mourte Me A-Wis, as you want to say to, I mean, say, me-avisa, we'll, say, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was this, it was before or or after?

No, I'm not sure. It was a lot. One day I go here, to do you, your studio, your studio, your studio, and whewelo a He was a And in my

head Diego, the biologist that then he'll go to the other people, at the time,

in a bioterio that is a haula specific for that's a make sure,

and I said, you're sure, so there be to be to be to be

to be to be going to be the serpientes this was like a yearbe

no, a And I said all the serpients Allas They were Yeah, the chata

They had the Chata had The chata had The chata had The chas And then Then she I was gonna

Yeah, So, So, So, I'm gonna And, I'm gonna, And I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

Yeah, yeah, You, too, too, too, Yeah, Yeah, Allas

They were Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I'd, I'd go, I'd say, I'd give

to production, Oye, It's weird. Then we say, yeah, we need to go to clean up. To clean

literally, I'll get to get to get to and get to get to get to get the chigada rat's or the raton

that we have the stupines too. Yeah. Me it's, well, terminate

there, go, one day me are my group of people are they're called those corruptas

so they're they're not they're we're going to see oh yeah, we're not to see.

I'm going to the studio because here's where he's I'm the computer and then I get the the

color more and I'm there moscas I'm into the quarters

of the serpients and then then I get the chata I'm go, I'm

the car o'clock the caja is serrated hermetically and apart

their systems of respiration have in redes in where

there can't a alarm of muska for that

continue ventilated ventilated, well, there were mosques out and the

serpent from the middle to the collar like like a water, like if

still still still, even even, the of the part of the

back, uh, see a like so it like a

time and the eyes those had undied the

the boca the was the the ocico, Negro, negro,

and olia like if had been a few years of being and he was more of hours,

because I had I had gone two days before. For those who not the know the

if you know they they said to eat to eat to eat, well, let us

we've done to come one a one every every every every

every year. In two days not they could be to have been to have been

that I I was to open, always that I'll put them water because they're like the

the water. Then there's nothing that there were nothing to be allentated and he was

all, all, and we're we're doing a commemoria that night in the madrogated me gave

an attack of a tost in where a past of that I was oxygenating

well, was with the pressure had all all right, I don't breathe I was

and I said like so yeah my voice like that's you're not you're asmatic no and a part of

that moment I've got to use an inhalator because no I'm not it's not I'm

not not I'm so I'm so soced this and our first

reaction was to say to say moja moja is a babbalo

that he's he he says oh yeah carnal so it,

this, this, and this and this. No, well, well, let's

those do you know, no no, it's when we're to get to do you

start, and then moja is a person very very very very

very and very dismadroous and so see, and so, it was a car

was was a no, way. Noto something. She, not to

something he's not so that Moja no is to do do things extra

at the less of that's very necessary and if us he was a attack

and it's this person Oh, he said person us we're the person

So, Moja does what what I'm I'm affect to I'm

no, I don't me I'm not like it's like it because

it's that someone say, wait, I, for love, for amistat, I'll be to pay for this and I'm going to

help with this. And he, so, so, without, without, and he said, Chucho,

you need this. Boom, there's that. We're going with other friends who are Yesha, Yeshua,

and Kouruba, and they're also do you do a limpea. And in the limpia, look, all,

all-so, limp, with a, with a goal, with, this, this, this,

the, so, a little little, the things were changing. It's, it's a

way, and I've never been to give an attack of a so- never, but I

a serpient, and I had a, I, with the, I, with the, with the,

I'm, that, when I get the Wi-Fi of, oh, hey,

they're doing this, they're doing, I'm doing, camera, C-Mor- because is a

a-c-c- -c-o- Yeah. Do you want to do you guys? Chuech? Well, the more

was to let's have the things so. And right that's that you know, I'm

my mom, his form of protection for attacks, brokery and all what had to be with the

thing, it was with animals. Sure. Yes, so, so. So,

you had a very special with the animalito. The animals are protectors. So,

so what did you could have succeeded to you? He passed to her and she

was a I'm very concerned of her she's very conscious of she's not that she's very

concerned that she we're gonna let's go and we know, I actually, I'm I think I

thank you I've done so, and I thank much because, if in that moment if in that moment

me put so if not she had sacrificed her how me had putto.

You know, and And, yeah, but I'm pego I'm saying, I mean, I'm going to be, I'm going to No, I mean, no, no, no. But it's like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to provoke the rebote, carmel.

Yeah. What you do you do, it you'll regress. Is the animal that's been the most has cared to? Yes, probably yes. Okay, because

if it, so, more than an animal representable a situation familiar in where I never had been very... My papa and I never were never we never seen

very uned in that question so. So it was the first that I felt that my papa me was

like my my father I'm doing. The link that's the context. Sal, yeah, exactly. See,

that my mom yeah, to terminate, this, he said that was very creillent of the

legends. Uh-huh. And I said that your mascot the that most amars in

this life when transcendieras or when intents I was the animal that

would be to come to come in this transcendent to pass the river that

the river of the almas the Mclan exactly so so

so so so so it's a interesting your story so it's a

so I'm I'm I'm thank you for this do this this receiving me in your studio. When

you want, you know, this space is it's your and of all those who need you need. Well, much thanks, my friend, and I hope that's the last time that we're talking. No, no, we're going to be able to come in things. There are many things.

Well, much thanks, thank you, my Jesus. Cuitarty much. Good voyage of regress. And, well, we're seeing in the second part of this, that's by yeah, no? Yeah, for there, and for there, no? So, for a

way, for a lot. Okay, consider much, muchuchos. And to you, thank you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you very thanks for to get us to the final of this capitual. No,

you know, a next stream on the Marches of the next week. The part of your friend, Jesus of Nazareth, until the next.

Cerraro is Chido.