Más allá del miedo Podcast - 25 | PACO ARIAS | LA INVESTIGACIÓN que me ADVIRTIERÓN NO HACER

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

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Saludos and and welcome to the new chapter of more than the new chapter with Jesus

of Nazareth Martines. In this occasion, I think you know that you're not

we're doing an invite-as from a from Paco Arias. What on a man?

How is you're very well very content Oh yeah it's good to get you

here for Tiers Guajuanas it's a lot for me to this

side and now so now so now so very content. How you've done with your podcast?

I've been very good. I'm going to send to a whole to your community. Demasal the fear of the

time I'm going to the last time that I'm so I'm not. So, I think that's the same. I think it

will be very good. Ultimate and first episode. Yeah, yeah. The first episode pego

very very important. Pretty practically all the community that's with us community

extra normal. That's a good on that. I'm content. That I'm really

much the thing of the community so there's a lot of because there are people that you can't

know that's not you know so that's those are the collaborations to make this make sure and both and that's

that's very I'm very I'm really I thank you I'm very you're talking I'm in the time

and I'm really I'm very very content because me received you know no I'm and there

have a thought you have to try the caldo of the caldo of the caldo of the field of

that is that's that is that me entousiasma. Yes, there's a there,

there's going to do you know, I'm going to go to get some some of the stories, or not. But,

well, in this occasion, my friend, we know, we know, we're still that the

supernatural is more real than the natural. Correct. And I think all those

that we are in the niche, well, we're affirmed so. In these days,

you've you've experimented some things, and with an exploration,

an, man, I'm how many things not have passed. Look,

right right when we're doing this there's a there's a there's a time that's that you

share that what's what you and if God us and if God does it so that

what has happened to you know, with us with all the team, Hasel, my

brother, persons who us have supported in this last to go to explore to

get to get us to get us to be a It's a new because I never

he's a lot of explorations I've got but the real of the experience that I've made you've

said to you've been in some I don't see if you've had been but I

know it was very very sometimes it's like very amateur very amateur

very amateur more more more than to get more than more than to get

to be but but of really that of something I'm did

quite many people are people who normal. Oh, I don't know I'm

categorized as a expert in the time. I'm not about the thing, I'm a

lot of the time, people who are people who are you're going to be there's to be a much

careful, because even it's a little dangerous to enter to a

house in a really, I don't there, there's some people maybe

uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I'm a person uh,

a short, a great salute, a fractal. There's, there in Puebla, me it was a

transmission, because there's a invite them to go to explore that I'm going to go, no I've gone, and the doc me said,

oh, Paco, I've seen that you're going to visit that that case. As I'm you know, no,

you know, because it's a house, I've been in Cuevas, has been in places where,

there's there's more more dangerous for things of insecurity, of mania, and there's a

case. And me And he says, no, you know, you know you know, what abit

in the place is a entity demoniac very powerful. I, ignorantly I went

with some friends trying, well, see, to be there, and I'm,

and they said, my friends went, but I when I took

to the entry, it was all too so- and, like this person

has the ability of the clarividencia of to be perceived more

the way your eyes and what your idea of the idea of not a spirit

human, not it was what they was a un-encarned no it was a spirit

impur it was a demonio and is very dangerous I was I was

and I see you he he's he he's he's he's

he's to get to the he's to get to the door and

before isom and see how this thing comes like coming by the like, but from the

wall, but from the like it's like like if it was an arana like if it was the ombrainer so,

he says this, this is an entity demoniac for the time, for how he describes

he describes that is an entity great, not is an entity a little like the of a spirit

of a a little, it's an entity more than two meters, very

robust, completely black, but his form not is like a mass,

it's like a rallion of lapisero like a grabato. Like a garabato, but with

form a manoid. And it says this thing, abita in that house. How it's

he? No, what you know, you know, you know, and I was

the testigo when we visited, the Pant of the Freel.

How when there these houses van and botan brugheria. Abren portals

and he said what I think what I think it was what I'm going to open a portal

very, very strong it's very open, it pass the creature and the entity

and it's there that case. That house me says even if even offensive

compared to the places that has to visit where where you have been

but it much more dangerous because there no habit a spirit. Habit a demon. And it can be very very dangerous if

you enter and you molestas. Because he, he, he he's the thing of a possession. No, it's

that you get posseed. It's what can be in that inter in what you posse. Because he

me says that this entity has a power that you can't you can be able to be able to

physically. Physically. Physically you can be agreder, you can a bar. Imagineate if you

was coming on a second piece or a little bit of a second-pillaras, you know you know, you know, it's what you know. It's a house abandoned. In Puebla, me parece, it was in Puebla, and he, so, that

turning to live, me marked and me he said, Paco, no, you go to go, you know, to be your reaction, I go, is a good friend my, has collaborated on the podcast, yeah, some occasions, and really is that I'm ashamed when I said, it's that, as he said, as that, as he said,

or protect you or not you know you know you go to and be with more people because it's

very dangerous and we're we're going to we're we're in actually with bad precautions

with much respect and all we we're going to go to to retar to obviously we're doing

with much respect in a more more documental no well here's this

this is this is this this see how how it's how we we did

we did it in the point of the Frale if pass a manifestation in that moment that we're going to, yeah will be other

other thing. And then, advise me. G.P.I. for invite. Invite me. No, sure, if it's

so it's able, so it's so that's it so. The fear we is more. Yeah, so if it's a

maybe they're and then, but sure, that's you know, there's a reason. So, we know,

we know how we're doing in these places. Precisely mentioned to the Pente that, we're not manipulam us directly.

No, no, of course. We just only went to a, to do you know, and the energy is she's a pesidita.

Demaciatta. It's out of the head. I'm dolea the head and is that all the places,

a person, I don't know there was a normal like we've in the apartments of Ketero?

Oh, you know, you know, you know, you know, but, it's chisdosos. No, no, man.

It was chistoso because that day, the people don't know we took three explorations, we've been to the tomb

to the Yorona Ponte of the Frenle and finalized with the departments abandoned. The parliaments

of the two apartments of the first when we were the point, I was I had I'm

don't know the case. It was the places with more uh, but I've seen

until right is the place the work with more the workererer workes

workas incoclos jobs rotos, jobs quenado, jobs completeos. But in the night

he said there's a place, there's a way, I'm going to go to do it. I'm going to

the other than the other than was going to go to surprise so the place. So the place that we'd

have to be something there was a there. I'm put it you did it you know

to do it is a question a pretty much that's a really that in the video of when the

camera. Yeah, that's it was a very. It was too very rare. It was too

very. But, it was too goodyce for there. Dentro of these experiences,

I think if you will be to live some things quite a bit of

things. I'm sure that that's going to certain places, but

is it will try to experience. So, not we we're not we're

playing with catitos and not with this I'm doing that we do a

way very very professional. We're to do do the

most professional possible. Obviously I'm sure that we'll still in

we're there. There are there. Fygette Nazareth that's more than

to have a risk spiritual also is the risk physical. Yeah.

Lurges where are those zones very calientes, places places that were in

some moment fosas, were places where were places and were

places that are that's very carried and apart they were

with a security very very very forth. So, I'm talking about

with the good Omar, that's he's he he did more than

three-mile explorations. Oh, I said, I'm I'm went to me to

me, me got me and I came, I and I kebred is part of,

but it's impressive and admirable the work that are that's people,

Omar, for example, the the time of the my respect. An expert. An expert.

A expert. Yes. Yeah. For there, I, it's got to talk to talk to him.

And if I understand, I'm saying, I said, I said, I'm saying, I'm saying, I said,

I said, I said, you know, I'm saying, you, of those first consumers, even,

even the other things I did, the form of Matheur, he went to him. Oh,

but you, you're, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

don't know, I'm no, and why you've used? Fagate, the explorations that I've done were in my

city, precisely. In my city, all the area, as a zone cristera. So,

me took to explore to some places, one where, ah, the, the people were where they

lived here and that not were not, and that's that's, that's the last we're

that's that's, they're in a place, and it was a place to be

an place there was a where they were, there's many furs. some coves, me took

to go but fifted that I'm conscious of that in many of those

places there's nothing. That's something that I'm to do you to admit,

there are places where it more the fame that has you,

you're and when you know, when you enter to a place to a place

from, it's from the first moment that's a place,

you're a house, of the the asyenda, what you want to you want to the frio, the

scalofrio, the spielofrio, the pelos of your point, you know, when are more furs I've been

to feel magnetism, the dolor of the case, so, are like some little signs that

your body, when you are in a place, where there many things that your

eyes that you're not perciven. And me had to for example, so rapidly here in

Tuxepeda there there, there, where a legend, a old,

that supposedly a person that he used to or desvibed people

for gustavs and I'm it's what I'm that's the story and this

was a year for the years about the 40 and about it about

a lot of a lot too years and that that I was I

was that was that was almost at the beginning I

had the spinita to explore but necessarily I'm

didn't the resource you you know you you need to

you So, so that house was a little more centriced and I'm I'm going

so I'm going to be so I'm so I'm I'm doing I'm I'm sure I'm

but I'm but I'm but when I'm not I'm not I mean no normal like when

I'm going to start to come in the habitations were they're being

grapitaed so there's no over never compared to compared to when we

went to we we're not we're a, the ex-normal to get a

no, no, no, experiences very strong. But if is very common to part

with the places that's that the term, just just there the name.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not a, so, so,

and it's very, how can say, it's very typical that, it's very typical.

Yeah, so, so, in these things are something so,

when when we when we this, conviviening here in Tuxtepec. Me, we're talking

some stories that I'm we're going to in the podcast. So, I mean, they're very much

interesting. Look, I'm going to say, I go, I go to the people, we've,

we've, we've, to come to a, a, city, a, city,

uh, there's, there's, we've got, we've got, we've, we've been, a man,

a man, a man, a man, a man, a, no-s-s- know, I'm,

The case is that we pass for various platanaries I'm Ducte Pett is one of the,

how can say, of the municipalities of the state where as we said we

know the the pina the plant the cana well Tomando the time of the

I'm when I was when I started the family of my spouse

have my spouse have been so I'm desemployed, some questions economic

and I'm put to work with my suego the platanaries. We were

we're going to we're to tarpaear I mean we so, I know what is that's what you're

that you're tarpao is when you you're like labrand the earth lavas

you're you're like you that's like that's that's that's it's so you

let me this I'm this girl just let's say this this is facelit So, I'll start

going to and with the earth. So, blah, do you know, do it's like, well,

then you know, when you're when you, it's a pesable. And at the first yeah, it's,

I mean, it's, so, not the end of the time, I'm, but

so, I'm done the day, I'm in the good, I'm well, I'd

talk about, and a occasion, a occasion, I remember that, well, when

We were we going to cut us, we were to very very very time. Exactly the hour, not you can

say, only you can say that a little a little other times was a time coming

and the Tuxtepeg and the part of the south of the country is known because

they're some those, some of the senses. Ceres Elemental. Ceres

elements. That are that are known here as chenekees. The Chenekees. Contexto Chenekees,

no I can say that are corrective many times because I many

for to be I'm not so the thing of I'm like this but I'm

a type a duendent no is a little bit of a dweendee not a lus because there are

different are different so different these these these cheneques uh are characterized

for sers with the little with the lot of different rosters avigentados

piece to get to pass to pass Rats many malus you

sconden the in bromas. To the children, they're they're they're going,

they're they're they're a lot of Chenekes and even it's a pretty

pretty little in my can't I'm not I'm going to get the world but

yeah in extra normal we've been people people who have people who

have to them or to their children the chenekes they're trying

to get one that I'm that I'm that me did you a minute but

I'm my said my my so-sue when we got us when we got us we're going to

going to get us going to be a manseeing still a little dark and me said my sir-o-y- paco

fie that tarpa'all a year last the last of the the calle so is that is that

it's like divided in calliecett see see I'll say Ier's me

he said so I'm so I'm so I'm so like 500 meters but

but into pure platanar am was semi-oscuro, but I was there I'd go to all the other sides, and you'll get it to go to the plato, matthas, I don't see what, you know,

but you see, nothing. Solely the plants. Solely the plantas. So, I was comingando. I had left, you to my segoor, to be able to be a little little. Yeah.

This, I was, I'm just getting, I, but, before I was, I was to hear, I wasciflidos. That someone me chiflava. I said, like,

like, when they'd when they'd say, And you'll And you'll And you know And I'll Cremere me that No.

You know, Cere me that You're a Pura Pater of Platano. Yeah. Tomo the

tarpala I'm I'm a middle of the Camino came the manned

me and I'm started And this I've talked other times me

I'm started but they're peteras little not are so you can't

you're so that you're so they're little they're little

like some some some little I was going to be up to the air or something of a air or something

but no, there was nothing no there was a viento the paders were the ones not they were they were

they were like of someone that they were they were and I was and I was starting in the podcast

I got my telephone and I said my people I mean I'm I'm going to get back

my two, three pieces that were in the nothing to they were to all all the

and I'm all the And no he was kept about and the people and said Paco,

so are chaneques are you you're in a place where there there's there's then I'm

there after I'm in the correct. An a friend that came to the podcast

me me said that she was a what was like 200 meters

of where the place the that's there was there there there

there I'm I know I'm Nazareth, and that's what I mean, to do you know,

to make up here, a person who's in the same, in the night, in the night, in the night, in the madrugada, to look, you know,

and you're here, and you know, and you, see, pure plantio, we, no, it's like in other houses, if you're in the

city, you know, you know, you're just, but you're, you know, best, you know, there are some

cases that, that are in middle of, some, three hectares of pure a mat of platinum. So, so,

no, it's nothing. And this chica lived in a house that was like a

200 meters there. Ah. There's turned to the light again. Continue?

Yes, so, yeah, so, so, so, so, okay.

Okay. and then, so, what I'm, what I'm, what's, what's, he said,

he said, I, said, I, I'm, I'm, there's a lot of

plant, the plant, and I said, oh, oh, it's

for that other other other and the other my sonch, my she has a

little bit more, she said, she was a little bit more, she had a little, she had a man,

five years, more or less or less, she made a house of two pieces and that only were they were in

their mom. Yeah she was the rumor that were these, that were in those

people, that were jugetones, that are bromists, that are very pesados. And one occasion, his brother, he had said to her because he'd have a pain to say to

her mom, that he was be it by the window. At a little, sometimes the young, he was up and a window, imagineate, a little, so a little bit

to see nothing more than you you know, the man, the little, the little, there were other children that were

that were going to say, come to come, come, we're going, we're to

but he's a little because he's that the kids are very

feos. It's like they are feos his his face

is a man I'm a fear and the man and

he was all the nights and I admire

the the little to be to be to

come to see and always I see these

people that basically basically classical classic. But one occasion passed to do more

a lot of the logic. She may describe that as they were her, her men, her mother, the

house had much security. Every window had these ventanals, these protections, the door, the door

had a rea. So, not was easy if someone could enter it was complicated that someone

entered because there's much security for the same that's in middle of the

nothing. and basically the mom and the children, was there's a good at it's a

night that was a storm and it was going to be a lot of she had quothed to do and they're

in the hours Nazareth and he comes a very preoccupated to the but yeah

was coming and they're like at the six of the morning and he said

Dora parate your your brother not not not was

not in the he said she infire me She said she She said she's

She's She's She's She went to The same time The time To get a Of the

Before the To get a O'Ogo To the To the To get a Cama And it's

You know it. You know, You know You're You're You're You're You're gonna

You're You're You're Where's Where's? Yeah When I She's

My She's My mom You're You're to look it, not not to be not to be

it's not it's like all the all the doors are in the door are the doors are

not your man no your not you can be able to be in the bathroom in the bathroom

in the second the second-piss the fourth the the

room the the man not was not not he not

not was not she she she's she she he comes

to enter to the room to come to come to come

and see a his brother he said that's he's he's

he's not a way he's when you get in the desawes and that are in the car in the

car in the the man was there and he with his manitas with his manites. I'm sorry..

The doors were With a candado With a candado They were With a cardado Is it when When they're When they're

When they were Airtable A lot of Bacier Was it was a Perdied It was like A caron

Or so They were he He was playing Really But when They're They're They're

He had a Mirate He had a Impulm But he was Sintiq But he's his

hands, but his mirada was totally isolated of all, and they're to get to

get to the little, and the little, like if were a caskaro, a

vacill, he's a little, he's, to be a to do you, are people, are people,

are people, are people, are people, they're, and they're to learn, and the little,

and the little, they're, again, to the spirit, to the in the

In that moment, the boy's down and says, what happened what I'm what I'm what I'm how you get

the question the million how you're going out of the house without without

no cut down without open doors never knew the

what he goes the what he said is that he's he went he

sometimes he saw for the window and he was out

there were there's there's the The last that I said,

And what he said your brother? No, my man, yeah,

yeah, yeah, he's a good, so, so it about 15 years.

Yeah, the young he was, and the little, and I tell, what do he says? He says

that it's like if something that part of his memory, no, he said,

I said, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, so, an expert, that he

a regression, a regression. It's impressive nascent Nazareth know how it's

how can be the panorama of these, these seres that have the ability to trespassar, to disappear

in the place, and disappear to this new, how they're how they're

how they're how they're over the doors, for the windows, to the

point to get them, to get him to get him in a situation very rare and is

that, and is that concuerda with many have come the kids are totally

absent. Not are they. They're going. So, they're... No, manches. It's a... Firtisim.

It's really. It's really. It's really. And for that's what I always I always do you always me impression because I mean,

I mean, I'm really, there are duendies. But, or no. Now I'm I don't know. Why do you

like so much that's the time? I don't know because he about the chaneke, I know, yeah I see.

Because it's it's good. It's Here in Tuxapek, part of the country, Chenekes is the pan of all the years. If you're going to a house where there are anciano, where there are persons

grand, and you say you tell them experiences and they're, and they're, more than other type of phenomenon, like bruchas, that also, but a little less, duendies, is the pan of here.

No, what experience. It's good. And, I think you talked about a story a lot of

interesting that came to get a certain point a myth but I'm very impressive

when we about about the point the point colgant I me

told you tell you interesting is a interesting, it's a certain point

but it's very really... It's a thing very sensible

the the last we took in the podcast the

people the people, the people, the came and they're like,

they're not to talk to the time. It's a difficult. Because for the people that people

that are the is, is that a that a a boy and a father, then they

are a life by a accident. You're to be a place. There's

two puentes that we get to a a un a unichido peron

that's San Bartolo. To get that's there's two pwinter, the Poucular,

which is for vehicles, and the Pouentonal, for the people that are circulars and, then the day of that point,

well, you know, that's a impressive, I'm going to put some images. The point,

yeah, the day of today today was a day of the did it's very secure, creme,

that the security, yeah is another level. You're another level. You're

you're going, gateing, and difficult to be passed. You can't get, you can't get, you know, do you know,

that's good, but you're doing, but you're so, man, what's, that's, so,

that's, that's, that point, was of pures tablitas, tablitas, that in many occasions

for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

for a government, or an administration correcta, well, it was, and it was a

maintenance. And much people circulate even even even in bicycle passable in the point and that even I'm even I took

to be on motor's how passable over the table and they it took over to see that me took over that and I'm

to make that me we're a man and me we we had a time before you didn't get to get a bit long,

large. So it was it was a pwenty that was very insecure.

The tablets were they're there's there was there

and there's there's a that's a not that a

thing what's in a occasion is that a night of

a night and he and they were at Tuxepet

and they were to to to the other to

to his house to the his the the little

the tricycle and the father he was the the boy trying to get to get

like I'm I'm trying to think that not it's not quite people who were people well it was

it was something normal normal or not not you see you not it's not so

the guy so the little he was so the little he was the father the problem

my man is that in that in that moment not they had precatated

that I think one or two tables exactly at the part of the point, at the middle of the river. Desgracially

the boy. The father in his desperation and and looking to save the life of his his house.

It's a water. We're a night of a tormented. The river was a river that

is known for to have, so you see, you see very very, very very normal. Very

very tranquil. But for above there's a grand quantity of remolinos. to not

make the quote a long my the two don't

they're they're they're they're they're pasted the days passed on

several days and they they're they're many many kilometers

and in a state in a discompos inflated yeah the

people yeah they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're they're they the of the little I remember that

when the buses when recently the accident the people get to the water the people

the people of the people of the people of people people who wanted

to get to the water and they were in the water and they came

busos of the state of Veracru and this what I say

oh it's a myth but that many people affirm that is

real one of one of the busos so abient

the and begins to descender and to descend and he says that when

he gets to a part back of the river see a figure great, sentada like in a trono at the middle of

the rio. He's the devil, a entity demoniac that was sated and that here

had the the body and that he said he said, no, he said, he said

that that he's that man out of the water and he's he

he the period totally his faculties mental, he's, he says what he saw, and nobody

he believes, but this man is he got to get to the nerve, many people, many people, saw that,

that's bad, that's all that's real, but he said, is that I see this, is what I this,

and this, all the family because, obviously, not he doesn't, that they're on the

thing, the time, they're not, they're the question of the that's, my friend

they're in the little. Much of people are many kilometers after the

way of the father. He's found out of some where it came you. Like

if I had been there. And that's rarestim much people was going

and was looking. And he was the most so the most the

body totally conserved, not as the of his father. Completely like if

just minutes before the the new would have been a better that's

what he gave much credibility to what the buso said. Because

it's impossible that a time that's a complete. If he

is his father yeah was food of the this

this still too two two two two more

was not in the water in the water

friend. That's that's rapid. Rapidism. It's rapidly. It's plopening.

And that's one of the legends because a part of the pasting these these things,

the people, or it was a, or was a fiesta to Xpeg, you know, you're going to get a

couple and you know, well, you know, you're to you know to you're at your house,

you're at one, two of the morning. Yes. But, but, but you

don't have vehicle, you you're to get to the pente, you see a a boy and his pap

and his you're going to you're going because you in the first moment you think is real the more

you're going and you you're going to you're going to you know that your silhouette was disappearing

until the you get you to where they're there no there. That is something

that has something that has a lot of a story more, more than

to be aterrador is a story very very tragic. Obviously the period of a little,

an innocent for me are angels I mean, I'm a foot and I'm put you on the feet of the

father, I think that obviously I would do that I'm going to be to do and I'm

going to be to be having to because, no, I mean, the fact to give

me to him. Yes. Yeah. So, so it so me so much

interesting, that's very, this story and, and then, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna, I, see, being the point, that's, because, is that, they're,

they're, the, the, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,

they're, they're, they're gonna, that, yeah, they're, in one of those videos,

or, no, so, in the, oh, oh, oh, that's,

you're, I, say, it's, it's, it's a story really, is that,

is that, is that all the city was put in that way. Yeah. The

period of the infant of the Lord, was rompio and it got the people,

people, people, and our people, and the fact, of the that's a

little I don't talk, but is that there, man, the legend.

There, there's a lot that's, yeah, it's something, it's something, it's something,

so, Also, for I'm there I'm I'm talking about, you're there's a question

of the question of the water that they're in the so when I went to the carlion, I did count that there was a lotteer

to where it was a thing impressive. Incluso, it's very similar to the part of the other than the

river Lermah. The most is the Rye O'RMA. But I am I agree to say that's more

enormous. This area. Bastant. Very, very great. Fiatte that also that's a

Ratae. It's that Tuxtepeg, many people who are people are seeing the video

you, then I'm a great a birthday a big, and I'm going to be

a lot. In Tuxtepeg there many places that are known as like

places where they're like, places, we're so we're and I tell you

tell you the why. There's there's a good Kike the in Newtacke,

it was in the 44? Exactly, it was in the 44. In the 44, the river

that is our city so, well, it's disborda. It's it's

there in that there was an there there was a person. I don't

not even my fathers, I mean, so it was a inundation that's a little bit to go to

my abelita when she was just imagineate. So imagine so I'm so. So,

so I know that the river so it and then it and so like Tux-Sepe is that

roaded this river it's to end up but it was a inundation that marked

the history of my city because no had been an

indundation any before or fortunately from there to come not

has happened to happen to see, but a inundation

that literally literally that's disappeared to be the map.

The problem is that we're about the four thousand four, houses

teja casas of adobe adobe made made a

much techo the amount and those were the families

that were the families that had the economy for

so then unfortunately much much people who's a

lot of augated many the current was a big over the river

imagineate you're you're you're and you know and you know a

one of a o'leada and where where where if the water cover your

house so what what do you do you do you do you do unfortunately

um for part of my family my abuelita and his brothers there

at one had a comrade, that he gave an space in a second piece and there's a photo

very old that's a photo is that it's a where the family's where the families were in the

house and the water was a lot is a photo that is a black and I

see the I'm I'm I'm but it really it's impressive

because the people is up the the water is the water is to

the water is that much people pass a and they're sepulted when the water

the water the people not know obviously they're interrated but imagine you

get on the city get to get a country, go to a little bit

a no know that's no a family of the people

they're they they're they they're they and at a

time you think those they're they're they those

things they're they a woman So, that's, I'm here in my city. For that's

that there's where people have seen phantasmas, the casas malditas, the house where there's the child, the

little, the little the child, I mean, that is impressive because you never know,

if the house that's to buy the land, to have a thing, have a little, you know,

and you know, and you know, that's that's been supposed to something. I've been something.

I always a tragedy, the place in a place in a city the energy that Imagine it's a

imagine it's a Pantheon I'm a actually me you're talking about some families that are some different

after this. There are families that are very well accommodated economically that that were

that were they're they're upas they're they're capillitas thinking

that in their in their probably probably and if there there's in

their creencia all put up up to their houses capillitas or then the end the

end of the house, these images of the Virgin of Guadalupe with his veils, so they

let's say that you not going to and I'm very respectable every people have their own

their own and if those makes more as much that good

that that's that that's that they're that many

people that them that they're in cases of many

pieces Yes, are in houses at five or six pieces and up up at the almost the parochia

so it's a it's a construction is interesting but they're they're in their house or other but they're

well, they're well, but I'm so I'm I'd have a year man the real

yeah when you when you when you when you were those situations of when it's

so me so I'm not can't dimensioning when you back the level of the

water and you this what he happened. I interviewed an friend a friend,

a friend of the first capitul is the compadry Placid Jr. that's

there are to know who are to be a family of the family that's a

man who a experience, a other level of a real of a other

level because he he was posseid for the

spirit that that was that was very because

he has two two These two sisters, before that he

were born they've seen the spirit. But the story came more back.

His father he confies here we're that when he

he comes the terrain and the and the albañel and they start

the albaes encountered what you did the rest of humans

Oh, or the terrain had a rest human of what?

But, but, you know, the time of the wessos, the rostro, the cranio,

they're, they're in they're they're in best, to be able to the authorities, to say to

say to to say to a little, do you, you see, a t' they're paying for

to do you, they're not for sack. And there they're there. And the mother.

There's their and the thing they're that they're to the house is terminated.

She was the cement to be the well the sir, a little deceptic and he said,

well, yeah, well, yeah, but his kids were to see a

little a woman and they had five or six years and they were they were in the

muchas, they're seeing being born. Nacke he, he says, no,

well, the fact me were very consentied my my papa yeah

wanted a baroncito and then they were they is that I

am I am I know I'm there's a time that he traversed where he

says, is that I did I did a cause but no he said, my

parents me created in a form very respectuously I'm respect and my

parents, to my parents, to my may have a time, I was

like, I was, like, he had passed things that he he had

he, he regress in si when his mom, yeah he was pegging.

He regressable when his papa he was raggaining. And he didn't know why.

And he had to be to do that he said a year he said, why do you do that

what I do you do? How? You're you're a middle of the cell

where my father and you see the you're and you get a and a

little so, what? So, what? Orinas where you your

mom gets the you get, the the earion that has here,

you see how I so he's like I do you do you know he he's

to get a to get that's what's what's going to me I'm going

and he he he said he he was he was he was doing

things but was conscious but he was doing voluntarily

and he he he he he he doesn't he he he's

he not could do programmed to do the action and he not could parar.

After that reaction he said he's I'm it's that I'm I'm not

I'm and they're to spantar my his mom is a more spiritual

they're they're they're they're to move to Spain to go to

some months and there they're there and they're

a car a her her because her my

not I didn't accept a possible theme of possession

he he was he says that this this is that this man a spirit a spirit

very a great that he has been not I can't because in the moment

that I want to get to my life is in risk but I

know I know I'm I did lastime because I was just a

year I six seven years and see that had something

so so very and me said the she's the

we're going to do you do you do do you did you and the

last he he said to he says to a water

a black he he started to do to

do and he he said you you have you

you you can't completely empty how she she

she not he no he no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna'nance is see that you're being.

That a new has a future for the end, that's well, well, so, man, so, man, and says, so, mom,

well, we're going to, a, a, a person, they're, they're in a house, and no, there's,

you're just imagining something? No, not, not, no, they were, they,

to talk because the house had his things and a one of the person who buske

no, well, so the woman and she did he three days that's

she fell oh y' y'clock he was they're interrary mined

they arrasar but simply they found in the piece in the house

and my mom so my mom I'm I'm I'm I'm

so I I remember the words of that woman if I do I'm to help you're in

risk for the entity that's a strong that's a person that's in the entity

was a person to get to and he he's put very so much and he put to

because immediately you're a a super supermating for me no

for curate my and that was what what happened with her no

That story. It's a fortisima. No, man. Tremendro. Tremendro. And that story

you were to do you did you. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was, he was the he was the

he was a he was a he was a he was he he said, he said, he said, he's a

motioned much because he says that Paco, imagine that my man me said, no, then you

put you, you put you put you to urinar and you You're going to help you. All right. All that all of

his niece, in his newness, my niece. It's very very strong. It's very very soon. Now, now

if you're going to be talking to talk. Yeah, no, it's very interesting. Dentro of

these areas of the area of the area of Wauhaca, me I'm going to

the area of the sierra, is very that's a nearer. The Sierra of Guajca,

well, it's about two hours, three hours for there. Like an hour and and a

hour and a hour and a The river. Look, I mean, I've heard I've heard of the

Sierra Guajaqueen. Uh, between those, that there had much abistamient

of bruchas. Yeah, to have passed experiences that have to be with with bruchas. With bruchas

in the Sierra, fiftate that there are in the other of the places where we

have been right at finales of the year, that's that's a lot,

uh, before to get to a place Clan of Juarez? The

Clan of there's a place where they're a good duendres but also they're

about they're like they're a bit of this term I like this term I like just to let's make it

chases no the not the no the not the brus that they're that they're that

see in the ball of crystal no bruchas that live in the serro

that are that are and that are being and that are they're like they're

they're they're they're they're like if they'd like to chupers, brusers that rapta in the people. The people. And there are

people who argumentan, to be, at all just here in Tuxedpet, right now no, but after some years, it's about that, for example, my abuela he took here, to see the balls of the fog. Aorita yeah no. But we have to move a little more the mountaina,

to the sierra, of Guajaca, and there is still being being, you know, and it's impressive because the people

really really he has a respect a lot of a lot of a a great,

no, no, no, so, really the people have much respect. Cued much

to their kids, they're much to do much to the sweet, they're not, they're

that's very interesting. Precisely we're we're talking with an friend in the

lavado. We're we're we're doing for you. That's good. This

this going to urbanizing these zones, like they're like, abacavando, abacivating, all these

things that have to be with certain characters. Yes. But, man, it's super

interesting. All this that's getting to be to live to Tuxtepec. Well,

when you want to adopt, the fact, we're that's that now is that the

food is about, the good. The mannanteals, they're going to be able to be able to

be in the fact, the fact, the fact, I mean, I'm going to talk about in any,

well, in any little to go to where the people and, and he

let me see, the day, the day, don't you don't they , the people, the

people, the people, the people, they've been a good, , good, so, and , and then, you, go to other

places, I'm a customro to do the good days, the good times, the time

and then I'm and say, well, yeah, you know, you know, like that's like that.

You know, it's a thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah,

I say, you, say, you say, in these zones also those

are, they're like, those, things, you know, I'm, there's a rato

that I go, there's a manential that I want to visitar that's

a a Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But a tantito more like to be around where it's a,

uh-huh. It's a mannantial where there are people who even get some garrafuna here to get us and they're to consume. And they're

to take. For the water like the water like, the water, fielate that's an water very

pesate. No. I don't see if someone of who's been to have, uh, have,

uh, I'm, no, so you can't with me, the water is more pesable. The water is more,

so, yeah, so, more pesada, more, I know, something that you make

that's like, it's a like, as a water's emotelated. And one a Tia

me said, are the minerals. Yeah, because when they're the process of purification,

they're they're all, they're all, all the water, there, there's a

chemical, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, this thing, but this chemical, this chemico

said, the water said, but the water of the water of the thing,

that has a a lot of things, the time, you know, you know,

the people that is the water of the they're in they're in they're in they're

they're in those ones that's that's you're going to get to get to a,

to fall to respect too because it's a place that's a very pure, very, very

limpio. So, you get you you can't you can't be able water and but without

respect to the world. But if the water, I've I've very fria,

also so it has a energy special in the place? Yeah, I think yeah,

not only for elementals, but for the thing of how it's they're not making the

water, they're in the naturalness. I mean me can't go, it's a place where

you're a little bit too, the water is that elada. Elada. So,

so you goys in the month that you go, May, June, that has

call, April, no, the water is, the water, the yeah,

But, but then a little a rata your body is a custom Yeah, no,

well, so interesting. Figgate that, uh, for there I'm made,

it's maybe it's that I'm these mannettels, uh, me those imagine,

like the enotes of Yucatan of, um, are very are, uh,

is that the river but subying always between the, between the,

and the water. But are like cascadas. Some are some some

even, even, on the sierra, a bit of a matter of a matter of a lot of

the river, that's a guy in the water there, there's there's a thing that the water.

And we're going to visit a manatial, no, probably not, no, not,

we're not, we're not, we're not, for the time, that's a time of the time of

the free, in theory, the the water sometimes also also, also,

the river is very revolt. But, for example, months, like April, May, May, Semana Santa. Uff. It's a re-

yeah. It's all the people of here in the city. It's going to be that. Oh, no. So, no, so interesting, Paco. Well, my I think that

we're just here we're thank me for, for, for, for me, no,

man, I'm like, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm really, me received

very well, me received, me, they're, so the Let me say you a thing

before before to start. You thank you to know the person

that you're very very simple that you that you know that you know

our not our not we not we don't we're not we're we're

we're all like in your channel but I want I want to

thank that that that that's that angel that you that

that that's that enthusiasm and I only I

can say from my position, that you keep you chas much that you

keep you support to the people that you want to be you're going to that all this you know,

you know, you have the staria, you know, you know, you know, and that you know

that you do that to be more more than you're you're of the great,

and of the real I'm really, I'm I'm very very very

to know a person like you and I hope that the am until

the time. Dallow for actually, thanks for your words Nazareth. I also

considered a good friend of my friend of the team extra normal. Yeah. And, and then,

that's the good flavor of a boca that I always think, and I think

the that all the thing that you do you do to do you go to and then you don't get to

not, you're going not, so you always to be doing to be good,

I think is one of the leges more than religions is just

to have this empathy so So, then, thanks to you also for to give, to visit the

opportunity to visit here the Ceras Guas, and when you're your house. Many times. Thank you.

Thank you. And, so, you know, and so, you know, this is the chapter with the good Paco Arias.

Of course, you, also my respect, all my admiration, and, I hope that

this chapter has been as a grader, that I'm completely sure that so it was. We're

we're all the next. Bye. Thank you.