Más allá del miedo Podcast - 31 | LA VERDAD DEL SATANISMO Y LAS SECTAS...Los DIOSES no son nuestros MANDADEROS

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

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In which moment our deities are transformed in our mandatoros? Velo, from the side of the Jewelio-Christian and he went to Satanism because no he gave Jesus or Yahweh, the things. Like, you don't me does what I want, beth-a-law, I know-se-khe,

and I go with the devil. I mean, so, that no-seekir to even your fathers mortals. Why? Why, why would you have that conception of your own? No, it's the same satanism the abelian, than Luciferism.

No, it's the same Luciferism than, you, directly Corriente 218. Not is the same Corriente 28

that is Satanists transcendentals. Not is the same satanism transcendental than for example

satanism reactive. It's the same for nothing. It's the same

to compare a satanista to a be avelian with someone

pertain the organization of the nine angles. Okay. They're

totally different. As Luciferino they're in contra of

any vejation that if they are against animals domestic They're They're in the Situ of Animals of Consum

Okay, for Aliment For alimento And within of his Crencies, the animal They're

They're They're So, no, It's like They're And then And then Then you're

No, then you You know, You know, that's to make a rickabcoa with the Obeha

If you you want to do a pact with Lucifer for To be

Because not you don't you because you don't because you don't because you

very little. Okay, and it's, it's, before the when you start with your alma and all all the ideas that

you're doing in your your world physical that you do you get to do you do you why you

you're going to do you I don't you I don't think in that I'm so, and welcome

of the new new capit with Jesus of Nazareth Martini's. In this occasion Thank you, dear, Seguidors,

we're a invitation a little special, as always, but in this occasion we're talking with the

alchemist of the obscurity. How are you? Very well. Muchism thanks, and thanks for the invitation

always. Before that, I want to thank you for to make. I see that you

know, you're quite from here where we know we're I'm really I'm very thank

your effort for to be not On the contrary, the is that it's super-pader that there's a super-patter-of-a and that's a opportunity

to do. So I'm kind of, and at a contrary, a disulva for a little bit of the tarantra. No, you're not going to be. We're not sure. We're not sure that the world is more real

than the world natural. Do you think that the things are so? What what happens from my perspective is how we define we're doing

we're doing because, because of a perspective or more aterrised possible over natural

in what moment in what moment something something it's not to be natural because we don't

we can't explain it because there many things in the natural that before

before you can explain and that that's not means that they are that means

so that then there there would be to how we do we think from my

perspective obviously there things that not we tendem in the universe and

that in our naturalness let me inquisitiv many many times we'll give

an explanation that is accord to our reason for in the few words of the

second fulgaret that you think that your response I like because

if I also I also I also I also something was a

totally different to what I thought earlier but if I

gave a conclusion very similar to the thing that the supernatural that's part of the

life of the natural simply are things that are that's that we

know that we're but quite interesting your response who is the

alchemist of the obscuridad look I I'm I

I'm I this thing of the alchemists of the

alchemists of the world social and other not directly trying to talk about

magic, alchemia, nor much less, I've communicated in my social and

my that's that's that's a good was a good, I started

about about things that I really, I used to make that's

that's people to make a kind of that's a visualization. And that

was a thing about that you know, and what I was what I was that I did

these exercises in the people, in where they were the dynamic of the thing that you feel

to die inawirbying, that's getting to die dispeye that's more, for a million

reasons. I'm I'm I'm really, I'm for more entertainment

but to me came much a certain public that of a

a moment, me a message of, I want to want to give my soul, I'm going to

my own, I'm doing a matter, I'm doing this, I'm okay, I'm not

I'm don't know I'm in a question, because I think I'm a vision

very special of that very specific and not much that idea. No,

it was until it's me yeah the bandager to I'm

want to do you whatever, I'm that I did you question to

the person even well, why do you want, why is the point? And when

me I said the reason, it's been completely the mind of this idea that they

have been many people and the idea was that I want to I'm my

woman. Me I'm feel that I feel that I'm they're

my friends my family I'm a person that nobody that

nobody will be thinking in, okay, in reality, the idea that many people seem of the pacto with the devil is something as a little, as a lot

that's passing them, and that's not know, you know, you know, know who can recurried, you know, and there came a first question

with the devil. Much of the devil or this figure, in the sender of the man or the man or

like, if God no me did what I wanted and not I can't and I'm going to see the

the devil me do that like a like a like a option. And I'm much of

many times, I've said much satanists or interested in the satanism what kind of what kind of

you're doing a figure if it's your last time because you're like you're like you're like the

you're like to be able to know to be to be able to ask them to make not even

even even to in that aspect. So, I began to talk to talk to this person,

and I did that many people look, within the thought of the think of the

thing, they're the ritual that the ritual, that's all his problems of the life.

And that's I was constantly conform I was going to people, at a

same the same dynamic, you know, the I'm like, The Alma, the devil.

When this So, when I'm I'm talking to and the first I'm saying, is that I'm doing a marre. I'm going to

I always say to the people that want to that person is feeling with a person even, and you are the only

that's the only that says, no, no, no, it's to be me, it's to be me, I'm thinking in it or

in her all the day? Who is who is the really amarred here? Who? Who?

Who is the life or who can no can't solve? Who is doing your life? When he goes

when when he goes. It's going to do that's not. It's not

many times we're doing. Many times we're to not responsivism to us to us. So,

many of the actions that we have to do in our life. But as much more

more easy to culpard a X or Y in the other to look to

look to where it the responsibility of one and where and when you're your own

responsibility is that really it's really is complicated so I'm

I'm I'm I'm start with this person and I am I'm to give me

I'm that more the ritual or more than the broadgeria traditional it has

a little of alchimia just in the middle in the people because

the alchimia not not so it's to try to rituals and chisos for

that the solution in the life in a way a lot of we're

making many various alchemists for example Paraselso is one of the precursors

of the pharmacology who a time through the alchimia had a a mix of

different herbs of different substances to create medicaments archaical that

that would that were that was that for Cels was that also

the component magical, or in what was this substance, in where the magia provien not of an aspect religious, and there is a great difference. No is, no, it is,

no, it's, a God, or of a Jewelie, or of an Allah, but it you want to you to call a God to

a energy universal, that's that's in each one of us and that one of us that's a man that he could conform to the situation geographic, conforma the situation

cultural that we've one is the yamahue, who's naced in another part of the world, they're called Allah, who's naceed in a energy as a no know, not know,

a vision let's let's let's religious. No, it has a name in specific. Mm-hmm. As a

as a a name in specific? A, a god in specific. Is that you're not going to find a single name for a... That's, that's a name? No. No, really

I'm going to to put an example. Could we say that the Egyptians were bad at adorahs, to adorahs, to Orus?

No, clear, that no. We'd say that not. And we're talking about the polytheism, neither we're even we're talking of a single

God. The vision that's the obscurity of times antivus, of the noticos is very distinct to the is traided by the Judeo-Christianism

because the Dioces noticous like Cet, or Dioces Nautical like Marduk, or Dioces Nautical as could be, no see, any other deity of the Panteon Greek, of the Panteon Hellenico, of the Panteon

Nordico, not were seen as as beings malignos that you'd be apart of your life, but had to know those and have to connect to certain form with those

Dioces, with those Ceres Nautical of those all forms Of course, all right, the idea also that the human is duality. No, you're totally loose, not totally obscurity. And that is there where commenced the concept alchymical, in where, for example,

we have the figure of Baphomet. Baphomet is a idea of that is the Dhabel. And Bafomet, as a the devil. Of course, we can start of the

idea of Baphomet much before of Lifaz-Levy. We have the Baphne of Lifaz-Levy that has the macho

cabriot, and has this concept hermetic of duality, in where we have, man, man,

and a rive above, beastia human. Also, it has, if you see, the Luna of Cheser and Gehura.

Because Cheser and Gebura? Because in the Arbohel of the Abel of the Abel of the world of the world of

the world of the right of the right, the side of the severity and the right of the tolerance. Represented

that duality of the that's exactly. Bashomit not represent maldddard, not represent

the duality of the human from a concept armetico. Elifazlei was finally a

sacerdote as well so too so that is something not, it's a thing to

the church but not is like such a satanical of the actually there's

there's some of the same of the heges, of how Anton Lavois about the Baphometh as the and I ask, Anton LaVeigh really was that he was the devil? And he's

an ignorant? Or, as always, he had, with the words, trans-hyversed the words? Here, something for the satanism

modern of the Bay, Satanas no exists. Satanas is a concept philosophical. What is

What happens? That is that Anto in the Beye he does the name of Satan to that we don't understand to the obscurity. This is reflected in the Bible satanic that he's written. So,

all not having a name as that the science can't offer to it in this moment, then we understand

to usimism with the concept of that's too, that's that we can't see, where not we

don't know and that much times it's the same the way it's not the church not of Satan.

could have been the church setianna, could have been been the church of the

church of it's been the temple of what whatever I'm I'm put

satan because it provoked a effect very very powerful in the

society modern if I say I'm there's many people that

percina and says viva Christ re blah blah blah blah blah blah

it's excellent but but of we then you can understand

where you can't where Lucifer and Satanas, as many are the concepts totally distinct. Satanas as as an adversary

and an adjective, practically, and Lucifer as far as as a deidism of the same phosphor. So, of actually,

something, that Satanas is reflected in diversos characters at the Bible. Not is

a single personage. For example, there, there, a TikTok that which is viralized much, where they're

that's exactly where is the throne of Satanus and the throne of Satanus. And, justly, it's about a city, but it's about a city that's in the actual Turkey, in the city of Pergam. Why in the city of Pergam?

Because there, where radical Satanus, was where in the antiquedat, it was eradicating customers pagans. Of course, she adorably two situations. He adorah to God Seusamon,

that if you goglean, you're going to see this conception. Seusamon is like a fauna. A man with barba and cairns. Very similar

to what we know what we know as Satanus. Satanas, not, in this conception. So,

the idea that the throne of Satanas is in the city of Pergam part of this fact of that still

not yet no we can evangelize this city and it's a and it's a society

full of herges, in where even even it's adorabate or deified the figure

of the leader of the city so you so there we have a concept in the

Bible of Satanas in where it has not has no has to

do it has to be with the city of Pergamo and Seus Amon for

that is that Satanas not can simply the Lucifer, because it could be a objective that define many things.

We're going to that the people think that abit there that's a total throne because it's still cremending in these images, in these in these things.

In its moment, it's still and in the actuality, in the actuality, is totally distinct. But in that

time, in the moment, in that is written, this verse- is, it had that idea, it,

remember, that the Bible not only only a vision philosophic religious,

also it's when it's the concili of Nicaa many of the verses, many of the

texts, they consider apocryphos because they're not with the idea political

religious that's that's going to start to start to the scripture.

I want to a sacerdote that says that Jesus never

never wrote a Bible. In reality the Bible

he was many many Jeshoven-Josef, you know, so then there's to understand

that at the Bible is an arm that has been modified a million times,

because currently we have a reina bader or we have the Bible Latin American

that that we we can we can be able to a way in where not important

the changes and the changes that they have done to be a form in

that if if, if we've modified many questions. Of the same.

We're not vision of Satanas, of the devil, Lucifer. All they in the

same same a moment, of that is a person like with cuernes as a

quite, as a person of these books, the cernos, this

person, so of the woman, and of the there, there

there very, very well plasmoded even even in the Vatican there are

some representations of this being of this being or this energy

this is a important I want I want to think for all the satanists

or you know no has no has a image

like a of that that is we we

we we we we we we can't talk to if you

want to it's very very dense respect to the satanism because no there's

a single type of satanism there existen I mean to be to watch

the satanists for what I'm going to say but so like in the religious

catholicos existen catholic Christians Protestants of Jeobah and all

and like all they're a idea of the the same God

but with different in where see, the Virgin Maria, but in reality

not was a virgin because apart I had other other there's there's

there all right all right in the same in the satanism something something

and this you know with based on the example not is the same

satanism labellano than the luciferism no is the same luciferism that

just directly corriente 218 not not the same Corrient 218 that is Satanists transcendentals.

Not is the same satanism transcendental than, for example, satanism reactive. Not is the same for nothing. It's the same.

Comparate to a satanista to the Avellian, with an organization of the different. How are the

great differences? Well, here are some, and I'm also to say that another that has been

the satanism into the santaia. Ah, okay. It's very distinct. Empeasant by the satanism in mind the mal-yamated santaia,

because a me reaganed a santaer one one of the same, that I called, like, I said, well, a be, sateria, us are santaia, because we're a

group of religions that in the idea of those who not know they, to us, we put in the same bolsa and a all they're

all they're all they're, uh, but degettos so so so

so there's and then you think you remember that there's there's there's

a concretism proveniente that is from the culture African the culture European

and the culture Mesoamerican okay of actually a secretism that me

I'm I love much much is the cult of the Santa

Morte because it has to represent many many many times the creences that had mesoamericanas of the Coultho, like we could have to be encountered with Mclan tecutli,

but at the same time is Santa, as we're from Europe, but at the same time there's a messla with certain rites of origin African. So, me seems marvelous, because you're, you know, an adoration to a figure provenient of three continents

distinct, and I think marvellouso. So, I'm into this idea of the Satanism then,

understanding this I've mentioned, if there a vision of a satanass to

where I know I don't pertensue to these traditions, in where Satanas

can be a pacto with him in that tradition. If I have heard many

Sateros about the pacto with the di-o- because

they're they they're different to the Santa Mewart

for example, in where the Santa Mwarte you can help

in some and it in a way different in a particular

to the figure notica of the diabal. But they

they're they're in where the majority I think you are

for the idea to pacted with the diablo to pacted

with a satanas or I think I think the

the people that have this idea of Pactar,

it's for the satanism in the santeria, and in reality, all the

other the other that is Satanism that not is in this concept

of the centeria, not because for the start, in the satanism

Lavellian that is one of the first of those the Pactar

not not is a concept merely positive. Because for

to start there no there a diab no a satanass,

no all all all all archa-tipicals of our mind, our philosophy,

and the society. When you pacts and ced is your own, into the satanism the abelian is in aspects like, for example,

when you are you in a job that you do not a certain of a certain of this person to

your time, all the days of your life, suffering one and and other and other

and other once, lamenting for the life you have, you're, you're

technically your your own to that person. It has And from that aspect is that the satanism of the vandal.

No, you don't lend to your alma to your energy, your essence. In the avellano not is

a concept of an mind, it's a certain measure, of a certain

media notteista. But, well, that is a concept. There's other groups,

like, for example, the luciferinos that have not not the concept of Satanus, directly as well, as well,

as well, as well, the concept of Lucifer. But Lucifer not is a deidate to the kind of, they're not they're not see a Lucifer as a deidat

to have a while have to ador and venerate. At the same Bible, the same Bible of the adversary of Ford,

it's about this intention of the practicante to get to the grandness to be like Lucifer

not not ador but not not sure not you know that's premeto

encaddened that I'm that the name the know the human

in the draconian that is a system that I manage okay it

came to be a something because in the sender draconian dracon

for to begin from it's the griego And what he cre the Cender Draconian is that, a part of the severity of the life, one can grow,

one can get more lex. So, something is the Cendero draconian, whose symbol, more than the macho cabriot, came to be the dragon, he, so,

the intention or the creencia to enter to the arbalistic of the Mourte. What is the arborical of the death, the cliffot? No is an arbor

distinct to the life, in reality is the Arboh and as were its their roots and it's a great

to grow but to be the earth what is the Arborette in the place of archangels

as it would be in the Arborette in the clifot came to the

demonios that we're that I'm to make to make to make to make

to make many of many times a mix of Doses Antivus okay

that were demonized for the religions the religions abramicas But, let us, in where we

we're in the clifference a Lilith, for example, the clif of Lilith. Although the Lilith, not the dirige the demonia the demonia mamah. While we know, we're

in the Arabhara, to Samalel, and then they are sub-eating, or more well back into to get to what is Taumiel.

What is the idea of transited in the arbor of the death? Alejarse of the light of the

light of the life divina. Why? Because the idea of the draconian is that the light tinder to be segadora. If you only consider that you're going to funder with the light, it will get a moment in that that light, you're going to consume it, you're going to be to come. In change, aloften you, going to be the light divine, you're going to

enter in the obscurity. And conforme most oscuro is, more you're going to have the necessity to learn to create your own life. And the other side, depends on the light divine, here you're going to be able to Transmit your property of the life. To be able to create it or disappear in the intent. A light divine, we're referring to God?

A concept of divine, as a God. Okay. Because in the Arbul of the Life, we'd say that the angel Metatron is the that is the Cephir. Okay. And, in the Argoal of the Morrow, the demonia Mollok,

the clifah of Taumiel. Okay. So, since that aspect, is that you create your own life, your own universe. You can't see it in a way teist because that is another aspect interesting of the draconian. You can be a teist and see it in a manner

esoteric, profound, or you can't look it as a concept of psychological. In where each one of these clifas you will have to get a moment of your life, that not are to be very good as, but that you are trying to invoccur, and this is very interesting, because

while many people who are such, to Satanas, to the devil, a lucifer, a lily, and all, because I want to give a pleasure. The draconianian no is pitherto not is a

people a person is a teaching the same I know I'm going I'm going

I'm in Taigirion no me you're going to try any pleasure I'm invoking to aspect

of soled of my life that I want to that I want to be able

to learn something something I'm I'm feel the list of

to In the draconian, no is the idea. No is reason for that a demonio, having an idea a teist, you know,

for what, why would you have to make a figure a divine, that is human? Do you know,

that's true? Why? Because you do you? Because you're, you're doing a cordial to a poor animalito.

What is that the reason for that you think a demonia to be a question? In the

draconian you, you can you can't call the attention of these energies. If you're a person digned that's a person that's a person that's going to to be. You know, you know,

you know, to learn to superar the arbor of the murder, to be able to latinamently. And not all the world wants to transit for complete. When you enter's at the Arbor of the Murt,

no, it's not that, you know, I'm going to be in the Arboul of the Morte, I have to be here, to be here, to terminate. No, no, no. There are people that that's

Kede in Lilly, because you know, because it's over the placeres of the Kahn. You know,

you know, about also the the pain. But, it's all in an aspect material.

Then, yeah, with Gamaliel, we've more with the unyriced, we're more with

the world of the suns lucid, we're more with all that process. But

conform more you addens in the obscurity, more difficult, more

difficult, and more traumatic even could be for a

person. Sure, you feel like enclaustrable, you can't say, you're going to say, I'm going to give, and that I'm

obviously, can nobody do you know, the idea in the idea, in the zendero draconian

in the clifford, one of the ideas more controversial is this. Why you'd

have to see to see to see to the other side? What is

that your necessity of that if your papa, your mom, your brother, your

son, you have the hope that some day you're going to see the first that's the draconian

when you do that is, forget that that person for all the eternity yeah

not will be not be never, never you never you never never. You know

two options. Ponertertie to y' you're to get for that or

to work in your world in this moment because because of you know that no

there's opportunities and that what you do you will be resonar like they're

in gladiator for all the eternity you know interesting so so so

if you know that you know you invokes the energy of belfegor that as you can

have to have been more with a desolation and of death

it can be traumatic for a person that is that's out of this

conception, of this creencia, these the other world and the other this thing. It's,

that's the thing is, you know, the name Brujo of the Sur, no, that's

I'm very very good if you want to do you want to be that I'm

that I'm that's that's in what the time our deities are in our

exactly you know so because oh it is that that's the other that's

part of the satanism because no he did to do Jesus or Yahweh

the things oh oh like you don't you

know let let I don't know, I'm going to go with the devil. So, that's no, so, that's then you know,

not your father's mortals. Why, why you'd have that conception of your proper God? Yeah,

no, that idea of God's like mandators no, no, is, not, not it's,

not so, not so many times with bruchos or nothing. What, so, could,

is, as a moment, is being a person a different, but a person dignna,

not is a through the ritual. The person adignate is a through the action that the person realizes with animals, with other beings, there's a book that's

not if you've been readed, that I recommend much, not is of satanism, but I like much, that's called, The Asteroids Sweenian with Oveges Electricers. Okay, no, never I've heard. No, no. It's very good, no? No, no. It's very good, no, no? No. That's, that's, that, the

human there's a moment in that the intelligence artificial is so potent

that grand illuquent that not to not get to distinguish

between a human real and a android a

machine and and and it's a problem to

identify how you know you know if you even the possibility of

install uh uh recueros in your person if if you

can't we can't we can't of this drama, for that the android functioned,

the Nexus, no see if it was Nexus 6 or Nexus 8, functioned, they're to install

the records and that were reales. Because a part of the records, it's that we're

we're not we're we're we're not we're that we don't have those

supposed vivences, how we know we know we're now having that

technology how you know you're you one of those androids if you can install have recuards, for you do you know what is supposed to

you have to do. I think that alchemist of the obscurity should do this for a certain purpose. And you believe that you're real for that functions. So, one of the

ways that was to be made to the human of the android, and, that they occupied a

other machine that was who was a human and who

no, there was a vision of that the person, because when

you gos to the benefits social of the human, and you

by empathy to you, a per a cat, to any

animal, even, even even, when you when you ceded that you you're

you're extending your humanity. Yeah, not it just to do to do you

know. And in this drama, in this history, it was human

of a great human, to who people, to have people, to

people, to get to people, to many, much much less,

that of there, but there are problems with the about the amount in the novel, but yeah, but

yeah, a little we say, I mean, we say, I'm saying, and for that my God to say,

to the head to the chivo. I respect the creencers of all, I've said, and I'm

saying that in the antiqued, in the paganism, the vikings, the Egyptians, the,

the Mexicas, the Mayas, they're sacrifices animals for the I'm

I'm I'm and I'm I'm but I'm but from my conception

and the manner in that I work to me get in the people

people who people feel they're desperated because they're recuperate

to the woman and some people to attract to

to bring to make million because they are

in the poverty material There are different types of poverty in this world But they're In the poverty Material

And of And of If I, when When you get to me, the first that I say I'm a

I'm I'm a That's a Cibb's a Chivot Asked to question to askle to

any person If he will be a good to the Cica of that person that has

the desire of vengeance to Vengars that person that he he did much

do do you don't you, of the head to a, a, a gallina. What well you're doing to your head of that poor person?

You're, you're you're, you're, you're doing the, the person still in the same circle of vicious. And for me,

that is what is part of my practice. I, yeah, I'm, you're talking, in a manner more esoteric,

when I do I do a ritual, when I do realize the magic. Always, for me, it's important to be in a certain equilibrium when I do. And it's something that promote much

to the heresges that then in the club of the Fuego Infernal and the rest, if you start a ritual with necessity, with sentiments of derota, with thinking that no serves for nothing, the only that you're going to do you're going to do. and in the way that is a ritual

in where it's a a functioner or to be a functioner or you're going to start to you're going

to keep and then you go to and then you is a poor that's going better and then

never you never to see the picture and that is where we

we're we're we're we're we're where I want that the

individual first be that first that that, it's to have

an equilibrium, and conforms start to be doing, and then

to be doing that when they're in a point, when they're doing the people,

they're able to do you, and they're many many times that

fear, that that that something that that's that something

to try, something they, they and it's to be effective. Because the ritual is a symbolism. And that symbolism is very

powerful if it's really correctly. But if not, it's a devastating for the person. Okay, we'd say that if we're talking,

for example, of a pacto for money, and we don't we have to start from the necessity, we're talking

of a person that not is poor, talking economically I'd have to be a person so that you have your

new years that has a stability economic or this what would not? We're going

to suppose that's a person that no has and I want to do the pacto

with the for make a millionario because they're not even they're

the person that doesn't I don't I don't think I'm when no least stabilize me. No, I want to be millionary and be

famous, no. What you say many people are. Well, uh, for principle, to far the side,

look, is that I have a grave problem with the thinking the thing when this you make

to be able for the movies. Uh-huh. To what I mean, I mean, if you want to do

a pact with Lucifer for to be millionarian, because not you don't get the

work that you have because you're going to be so much because we're going to be sincere also in something. I always have said, if you have the capacity to start perading your time, bytom, you know, you're going to be living under a pwain because

you'd beendous this smartphone for complying to come to eat this night. Those who are being not are living down a point. So, from there that I think

that you know, that you have, when no, the minimum of resources to to be able to move. I don't say to

how to help to the person that's like I'm under the person no me be.

From there I can not know it. When this this so I'm what you're

saying, I'm so I'm very of the idea of okay it's a per the same

cliffote it's it's it's before the before before before

with the ideas that you have, what you're doing in your world physical that you've got to where you know where you know you know,

do you know, why is, why you're, why you're doing you're going to be back, but no, no,

we don't re-plantees many times, not we're replantial most many times, how is that I'm where I'm understand,

so, so, so I'm, so I, I'm, I don't, I don't I don't you go to give the

cheesio for you know I think in that I think I'm saying I said me said a person another other

other way because, this, I'm I've got I've gotten the same years but the money

now I'm not so if it's because me made a and I said

if you're you're saying you're going to the same years and you're not it's called inflation, not

it's called You know, you know, a little about inflation. And then you're just you know, oh, okay, no said that, okay, no, I'm curious. Me, you know? And then,

and then, if I, for the contrary, perpetua to him, if, is a brujeria, surely, your becina that you have enviedia, I'm going to do a ritual and I know-se-k-k

I'm perpetuating the ignorance of many people, much people, much times, to what really is the magic, the brugery,

or the alchemia. for that I always I always I say to the heres and I'll say in what you want, the faith not you're going to

do you do you do you're going to do you when you're when you when you're when you're

when you're into the parapsychology I'm parapsychologist in the parapsychology when

when it's when it's the system of the chakras of the seven chakras

you have the idea of that there are there exist in those people that you

have that's people that are in the chakra radical but the other

are the same and vice what I mean what I mean that's that there people

that are super materiales super materialists super I don't I don't think I'm

I'm not so I'm can't get your number number and there

can't get the number number number four and are people

are too rationales that when they're in these people commonly are the people

that are the person who a holograma like a Star Wars of the devil as the

emperor Palpatty and no and no those people have to get to get to

them because they are atated to the thing that they can't

see more there more And, we have to help us that, if, through the thought to help us

to that can get them to get with their eyes normal. But for the other we have the

people who have been the chakra of the mind for complete, but they're they're living

there up. So, they're up in a world of a world of a chisos conjuros,

so they live in a world of creencies religious and fanatism in where, for the contrary,

I, I many times when I convivow with these two types of people, there are some that I'm going, okay,

we're going to start, and there's to get people, you know, you know, you know, something,

do the thing, down the two ralgett in psychology that just something that just about of our

questions and how we're able of us we're able to many times prevent what can

succeed if we're we're we're we're a meta-analyis of our own

our own but if none of those two there's a disequilibrio there's

a point is that that this disbalance could molde and

equilibers and then so then so occupy the thinking magic in

certain dosies but without we're in our people physical terranal. I go,

so physical as a kind of that's not a good. You know, you know, there's people

that's that the brusho don't have given, excuse me, but the broho come, the

other man, the brucho has children, the bruch has to get to get to a voyage with his family.

And what you're you're you're saying, he's you're asking that he occupies

your time and in something, in what you're in what you are doing,

you know, still better. If you not you don't think you you, you know

you don't know you confi's in you, well, then in mind that

you're to be to do you do you do you I'm you know

that's, I think that also depending on every person this but I

have maintained in that the people that people that

certainly know those don't no they however I'm

also I also I'm also I also that they're going to go back. Because they're bringing your

time, your energy, so your space, obviously are paying part of their life in many words.

Here there's something. Where I also I'm the major part of the people that say are bruchos

or santae or persons who are people who are the esoteric are the grand majority. You,

as alchemist of the obscurity, how could you identify to some of these stafaders? That good

that you want to be you know that's, I'm going to addergan a little to what you

have you think I know that the broho can not cobrer. I think the bruch

can not cover. All all depend I, I think, of two factors.

The first is if the brute is if the person because at the final

of the day, ohie, me guys well, me interest to help you can't help you. And in second

other place, if the brucho, is a drug or other because it's a doctor. Completely. If you're doctor, no

I'm a druggeria, you know, I'm doing that I'm a good, I know, I don't live of it.

Sure. But if I'm going to get to a quote, absolutely. I'm sorry. No.

Respect to the stafadores, I'm to say something. I think that all world

has um all world can have his creencers

all the world can know to he's his own

and his own his so I think there there's there a

time there and so he is the he and

fire yeah and talking to lucifer and all

he he he he he does a a

little he does what he has what he They are different

and for there you're going to many bruchos that are that he is that he don't know,

and he's the archetypo of the sabio, that's that archetype Jungian of the

same where the sabio what most he's to be ignorant is a

major fear of the and as a great kind and

they're they they're because no there a association of

bruchos international, in where there's a schedule professional of a and I can investigate if a real such a

person in the university of Oxford, in... Really, no. So, depend on

the word of the brother. In that sense, what I do I, in where

the stuff, is when you attack emotionally to a person. I'm

explain. I've talked three situations. First situation. A Club of the Fogu Infernal,

that is like akelarrie that I manage I'm, I'm saying, is that I'm much fear of that I'm a damage Lilith, the demonia Lilith. I'm because you're afraid. I'm going to talk to you. I'm really,

I'm much fear. I said, well, countame, no? And then then, it's that the, that the, well, yeah, I was I was, he was talking

much, no, and and the other. Grew a point, there was a moment in that he said, ah, how you know about you're

the first of the woman, I'm saying, no, you know, I mean, to get to get to be the next.

But, that's the book, and the witch, and the woman, and the girl, he's doing

all, Lillith you're going to castigar. Lillith, yeah, he said, he's got to do you're going to

do you're doing to do you, I'm trying that's that's to here of the

person but but taking in mind what I think I

just some minutes that many people are in a moment

of a balance of disequilibrio emotional and that

for that they're much to say to a person

to this with this instability with this instability

for me is that that poca. Oh, so,

what because you're attacking to the you know to doleer to that

person, and then now you're doing a trauma psychological

that no you can't. You can't blocker to your cellular, blocker

it to your redes and say, I don't have to do

not of you. To do do is in vulnerability, it could be, it can cost you to,

to make legal, you know, I'll give to do another example. And a person that actua so,

it's supposed that the men, they're supposed, that they should be more, superiors,

of some other way, I go, then, so, then it's so, so superior,

so, tan, so in contact, can, so in contact, to the deities,

right? The second was a brother who was a woman who was that I'm going to start

the ritual. The chica was going to the gruho of the ritual. And the he said,

no, no, I'm just I'm going to the ritual. This Lucifer is going to powder of

your soul. You have to deposit yeah the money or if not

Lucifer will be to do you do do you and so and so

this she can this chica me he said, oh, you think you think you can't

do you can't do because if no he says I'm going no le you know, no you pay you

don't let pay you because that's an timo. They're abusing of you emotionally where they know where they

dole to get to get to another. Another. A one a,

I'll say the name because I'm very a very

a very that's that he He sent to say that, literally me mando a message, he had like his secta and no-se-k and no-se-k. And he, he sent me, he made a message

that me to go to be and say what I'm going to. But all those people are what I consider stoffadores. Because no less important the people. It's a, you know, to... The broo who you know, I don't know,

I don't know, be a bad person of much more, but he has to come. but who you're you are violenting who

who is trying to make benefit attack you psychologically psychologically

um no me it is where we're where we find out of

so and there are many of those those that's there completely see

that you think it you're the specific excellent so are those people

that you manipulate emotionally they are they're they're

in the vulnerable that's in your emotions principally and this

type of people that are the solution magic to the

problems that definitely in that moment in that

there but I thank I thank so I

thank so what what faction of the people

that adoran a satanus, to the devil, to this energy, you think that is the

faction more, so you can be a grotesque, violent Yeah, there's

there, there's a group called the nine angles. Okay. I'm I'm a

I've been I've been the Bible a or had investigated about

them and in context a great problem of the

that's the two angles is that some some of the actions have been

analysts me understand I'm so I'm say I'm get a questions

of yeah questions racial and superiority racial and not not

this but they have done they've been registered that

have done on what is in what is reino unido no

So, his leader, who is not is very really even if really ne'equire if exists,

his leader Anton Long, is a man, is a person, is a person,

a way, no, in a way. Now, other aspect is

that is that do you know, but also they're they're human. Okay.

So, so, We're we're so the more more more than

the people could understand when he's first the word satanista not

satanical um um so um I've got contextualize I've

been a my opportunity to talk so like I'm so I'm

doing with a member of the nine angles okay has been

very interesting the part because well more than a

I was, I did some questions and he was asked, no, technically. I'm clear that

not it's too taboo as well maybe it's like you what I've said, that as I'm

like you're in first instance, tell best you know, so they're the best you're the no,

no, no justifico much of those activities because that, know

those yeah more in form well nothing of what

they're not of what they say is a minute but for example

the human is a human has said that is a transgent

and that that's not that certain context because after

where I have been as not be part of, it's simply what me comment it.

Not it's not because people are because they're transgent but it's more

a concept as a way in Mesoamerica. It's an honor for a certain

person offercerse and that's interesting and so so in this

offer so so it's so is the sacrifice human in

accord do do do a To be a group very armetico, is very difficult to know much more, because to tell you,

yeah, a detail the things, needs to be part of the group. They're so, they're very armitic, their knowledge is very very serrado, but are interesting.

I would be able to talk with one of them. Or when, some day, so, so, so, so, I'm,

so, I'm to, I'm, I'm, that I, that I'm, that I'm, with them but, well, let's see, if they

they're reputed, they're just like very of group serrated, things complex, in the actuality, your age approximately, how I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to the 30,

of the 30 inviars. Okay, then you, to take the time where there was the panico satanical, of the 90s, that Pokemon, that's, that, that the, that's, that the, that's, that,

that, that, that, like, that, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah. you know what was what was what was what was what was

that's the look, look, let's get the satanism as a popular thanks to the church of Satan

in the 60. In 1969 in the conformed it's popularized it's a idea of that those

people, for example of the the church of satan suffered abuses or

attacks of the actually there there no I I don't know how it's the personita that

they're doing a book and then a picture about the abuses that were the people who

were the satanists but curiously the person behind of this story that

was made with this chick was a person of a circle religious

Christian Christian Oh okay so so then then it begins

to see revuelo and if that you addes some concepts, well, some things that were in the 60 surge the satanism

of manner popular. The thought the sentiment satanical came of much before but as popularized

for all the people in the 60. But what also are that also in the 60? Surge for example

the metal surgen factions that are that's derivian of the church of

the church of the church and they're not they're not so they're formed in the

system of the group of the setianos the draconianos justly

with Thomas Cowson of actually something is that Thomas

Cowson that was with the disc that's called bovin

of the bandaterion bovin in enochian The Enoquian is an idioma, that is the idioma of Los Angeles, for just to make different conjures.

So, it's good with the letter, and it's excellent, because you can't see much of the mentality draconian in that album, the clavicleanox,

the duality, many things. So, all this was what was what was derivating of the panico satanical,

in where it was, yeah no of where were from where were there was there was there

there was for detract of it an intention machavelica of the satanism and you

see succeeding the fecha you can you can you can't you a

Madonna comes on the how's the name of the prayer

I remember it was very viral and so it's very viral and the

sacerdotes and all, and all the world and started, no, they're going to know, they're in a real

a ritual, and I'm thinking in the point you put you know, you're doing, you know, where's

the problem of the ritual, me, you know, I know, I know, that I'm

a problem in that every every day, I'm sure, you know, I'm

, you know, because, if it's your form of a thing, then there's there's

a problem, clearly. And so, and so, and so, Yes. Of course that we

in Hollywood and the more great problems like what has been of the Pizza Gate

and all that but about about exclusively of the tribute

that's or that did Madonna if is that really I

think I'm no I'm no problem even even

also also were other other other Cati Perry

this Rosalia yeah I remember this other Sam Smith I don't remember.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's a one, no. So, yes, for

supposed, but there's I'm going to the point of what I'm a point of you know,

you know, you know, you're going on the world magical and you know, you're

to have that kind of, or if you know you're a fanatical, so you

are satanists, and satanists that's that's that's I've been a creency I'm

actually, I'm a When you ever, being satanista at the 24-7, you're going to be a fanatic.

Because it's the only that you live, you know, and with what you're doing. And personally I,

I'm, I mean, my mask- my mask-a- is what you do that's the chimistic of the

obscurity. And I keep my person. And then I put a to go to do you know,

to be to see, to be a little, because you can't be thinking 24-7

in the same, or you affect here. Yeah. All has

a significant quite, it's interesting. Of the things that in the satanism or of the

people that are involved with this, there's a that you not you agree? Nowament.

Dependar to the ram the sender of the man left. Satanism is like a form,

like what we say we're to the santaia for that we don't, for that

to be that we say it's, so that's that in reality I'd correctly

the sendero the sender of the man And I think I'm And I And I think I think

With what Well, more well It doesn't It has to It's a lot I said Some minutes

I'm For example I don't No, I do I'm Prove in my practice And I

do this manner No, I know in my practice Because no I just go

that I'm Mmhmm MENT MENT MENT MENT BORN

and under certain norms legal. For example, the Luciferinos, many times, can get to do sacrifices animals.

But, something that I like much is of this contact that I mention, is that as that,

as a luciferino, they have been focused much in to make all all of according to make,

they're they're in contra of any vejation that's counter animals, how is it

like, contra animals, like perros, gatos, and domestic. Domestics. They're in the

service of animals of consumption. Okay, for the food. For the food. And,

and into of his creences, the animal un- un- so, not it's like

it, and then then they're there. No, then you make to make

a rick barbaccoa with the owee. Ah, okay. Interesting. And from that aspect is that they do not do you see an animal. They're saying,

look, not you can't come to judge a position to start if you see what's for consumption. And you're just a movie that's a, well, a documentary that's called Matadero. And in this documental of Matadero, you're saying how an infiltrated that, no I remember if it was,

or where, he met, and he makes how the animals those cures, they're much times in the mataders, because the important is to you're

that's that's there are ways that that they're that they're but

not always function no never function for example the pollos

those poor the peregillines they they're they're make them

after after before they they're after but there but there they're

they're not they don't they're their not pass their water

for the water electric So, okay. So, what is the second that's the

dengue directly. Or they show in the documental as a baca is very

nervous and no import to goli- and to be to the area to

the zone that's the luciferino. We're we're doing a service with an animal

in where we're doing all the respect of the and conform to the

law because are regied by the same, we're not going to the animal sin the suffering that has used to

many times in the stoderos, and then we'll eat to the animal. No, no, we'll disparage us. No, we'll just say, inclusive, we're going to the animal, we'll come your carne, and then

the vessels those occupies those occupations, the peles, we're for what is pergaminos. So, nothing is the desperice of the animal. All right. The

question is, what What we can't say we can't we consume us that we're that we're that we're really reflectionable

about that we're doing? If you suffer, no so free, I'm not saying that the world has been

vegano, I mean, I know I'm not I'm not but I'm saying that many times there's a

double moral in where I'm not I'm not the animal me that me keep me keep

trying my poe kentoc no? So, but the satanista that's

that's a man a disgraceer, it's a malado. No. Oh, no. Is it really? Yeah, me changed totally the panorama with that. It's a lot of interesting, the word of those situations,

because if it's something that the people Christian, Catholics, and all those factions, attack to the people who are the same, of the same church, is directly

with that. They're, they're of the services, of how the diablo only does things negative, but it's real,

I mean, not we're about this type of situations. For there, when we talked about

out of the air, you comment about that the art in, of all these movements

is a important. Like, what you refer you? Look, you're going to make

that in his grand majority, not I could Those who are in the Senderer of

the man left we're we're great affinity artistic you're

to give examples Anton Sandoz Mavéy was very good to be playing the

piano Yes, Asenars Mason that has the temple of the Lama

ascendent she is a painter I'm I'm he he's

a senior he's and you know and you can is to asker to the

Senderer of the Mone the Mone and are music are, they're like I said

are you because the art, the Senderer of the Mone Rackertie doeske

generate catarsis in the individual more when the satanism

is not teist it's to make a caris. And what better to generate

a catarsis in a extension of it's for there for example we're

the example that you mention about with Terion Terion this band of metal that

that through the letters of Thomas Cousson of the Dragon Rouge

express much of his and they were they were all in

all the music with these letters that were

from the draconian of the Sandero of the Man Isquire the

Lucifer Rising, for example, of Kenneth Anger, that explore these aspects of the duality and these aspects of the magic. Asenars Mason, for example, create his own sigilos. Asenars Mason, no he doesn't want to work with...

The majority of the people work with... This is a point very interesting. Much of people have worked with sigilos of demonios, but never they're from where it's the sigil. Sure.

Grand part of the sigilos come of texts like the dictionary infernal of Plansing do you

know some some have been invented many of these demons

don't have siegillos but are inventions artist of those

who represented the demon through this sigilization for that

Acen Asenash Mason create his own their own their

great his particular so so Because, let's go, let's do this manner. If I don't

comulgo with the sigilo that me are showing, for example, of marchosias, no me symbolizes nothing,

no me generate any catarsis occupant. With what energy I'm going to work my

ritual? Sure. So, something, for what I aboged much, is create you

the sigil. There are where you can't work with the particular sigil,

that represent to you. because you know what you're because you know what you're calling. If not it's a thing very,

very of the clero in where me they say to me say, because they're they're saying that's to say, to what you

remember that? I'm going to that's what I'm going to that's a question, ah, well,

is that I'm saying that I'm going to give you my communion because me said, but what you

can't do what you're, when you're when you're when you're first that me interest is that you

you, you're you're a bit so, you're the chaos primordial.

But what is the chaos primordial? It's this, this, and where you're invented?

Ah, well, of here, of here, de- here, let me learn it. Here,

let me learn it. Here are the audio-liberos. Here are the audio-libros of where they're here. Okay. Now,

you what do you think? Ah, well, so is that I'm this idea, perfect.

The idea, with me at least, is that you know me you know I don't have the intention, I don't do the intention, I know

the idea that you you know, I'm you know I'm over because I don't do that because

I'm not because in my philosophy you're who who has you're the you're the kind of you.

I mean you know, what you can't if you you say you do you do you the,

of the that you the time the world, then you go to do not do you dole, thinking in what you're going to to pay but the truth,

neither my brother, nor me interest. That energy is your. Occuped you, that energy. So, learn to do you. And, a part of it it is that, many times, I'm going to

study, respect to all these things, and say, ah, okay, now I'm now, I'm trying to who is Crowley, I'm here, I'm who is Asenah, I, I'm Kausen,

I'm Kahn, I'm I'm here, no. And then is a quino. And thence, and then they're to say to have to be able to what they really

want to do. Ah, okay. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm interested to do the sacrifices to do or so,

if I'm interested, I'm going to connect with it. Excellent. But I'm, for so I'm that phrase,

I don't know if you've heard, I'm heard, you terminus this history, not I, because no I'm

because I'm in your sapatos, you know? So, So, for that is very important. And we've been a great

like, like, the Akelerre, the painting, he went, Goya. Goya, that was going to

a moment very difficult in his life, that's these, these, these, these,

these, these, these, these, these, pictures, the perro, the Akelerre,

has two Akelerres, for example, and he was a time, and he had made of those

pictures. And when your your picture or what you do you do do you you're doing you you're

you're feeling you're much of the and when the people see your picture in your

work they're in your music and they're you're you're you're you

create a same the same sentiment the same sentiment and for me

no there no more way to you understand how is that your

energy is transmitted to another person a through not necessarily

vellas, not necessarily sigilos, something so simple as create your painting with an enfoke and your

energy, it's a person, and it's so how the job. Okay, very, very interesting.

Amigo, me would be going to continue to continue to I think the

talk to that we're to make other two two more. I'm so.

I'm cantadisem. I hope that we're the opportunity to coincid, grab up again, and then this studio

mounted, you know, that is, it was always my honor. Before we would say, I'd like you

can't find out, how you're gonna you know, how you know, you know, in YouTube, you're gonna you're an

alchemist of the obscuridad, there I've been some documentaries that we did doing different parts of the

world, we've went to we're to see, apart to see the auroras boreals

Borealis, we've we've For me it's very important that if I'm going to be to be able to know to first-mano to those that you've practiced from the antiquity.

Also, YouTube, you can find me in Instagram as an alchemist a guion back-oscuro and in Twitter I have a new project with Alchemist

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You know, there's a little of things maybe very strong, but in Twitter

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