Más allá del miedo Podcast - 33 | LA BRUJA que se QUITABA LOS OJOS y se CONVERTÍA EN ANIMAL era mi tía
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Dice my mom that she no
knew the time
that was in that
quarter.
Because,
the really,
that was so
fascinated with
that he was
that he was chukes
my abuelita
me was to reagan
and said,
that I'm
that I'm
that I'm
that I'm
a little
fogoncito
had a comalito
so,
he got the
little bit
and he
he starts
to learn
to learn
he says
my mom
that you
that's sure
of what
that was
a dream
He saw perfectly that
He's out of the
Ours
And he puts
in the comal
He's
He's just
He gets a
He's over
A can't
of a cano
of the
Of course
And then
when he
He's got
What I'm
What I'm
What I'm
Ciccus
Let's get in
Cicul
The can't
The Canoe
It's a
Agena
But he was
Ahtonica
And he
He'll
Furtue
You're The
You're
To Cumped
Dese Ande
I felt all the
sabres of the
obscure.
He took
and did it
the same.
But she
said
like a
oration.
Yeah.
Of a
repent.
He said,
to the
inclinu.
Agar me.
Sientame
because you know
what will
be going to
the
mess
and it.
Pallida.
Pallida.
It was about
another person.
It was
like a
possession,
it could
say?
Yeah.
And they
started to
say,
what is
what they're
saying
with the
eyes
in black.
Saludos
and
well,
and
a new
capitol to
a new chapter of
more
away of
the
MED
Martinez.
In this
occasion,
dearer
the
very people,
we're
we're doing
to thank
to him
for facilit
us to
give us
a talk
a lot of
a person
that I
believe me
I'm
about
about
about
about
about
about
about
this
we're
we're
we're
we're
with
Arie
of
in Nazareth. I'm
tremendously fascinated.
Thank you for the invitation.
And, yes,
expect in much terror.
We're not sure.
We're not sure
is more real
than the world
natural.
You think
that's so?
Yes.
You know,
you know,
that you
do to confirm
that is so?
Yes.
How do you
have to tell me?
Well,
this history
not is
my,
but is
within
of my family.
Ah, okay.
Okay.
Has it
yeah
a lot
time and
has like
13 years
more
or less
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
with my
Tios,
with those
Tios
and for
that I
took a
mal
of mures
so
then so
as
being
my
Tills
the
the
the
problem
was
was
great
and
me
said
well
I
all the
Adelante,
you can't
another person,
no you
preoccupies,
me dabbat
allient.
Yes.
Appoio
emotional.
But I think
that with the
days I
went to be
peorando and
every more
my, my
my,
my,
my,
I mean,
until
there was a
day that
my tia
me said,
you know,
you know,
you know,
I think you
should be
with a
person that
I know
that I
know,
that you
know,
for that you're more
tranquil.
All what you
want to
know,
it's
to be
to be clear.
So,
I don't
say,
I'm going to be
sincere.
To me
that's never
me
has never.
But,
but for
a reason,
with the
pain,
I said,
my
my Tia,
no,
is that
I don't
think,
in those
things,
I'm,
but
no,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
to
say
something.
I said
A me
I've been
done
something
I've been
Brugheria
He said
I don't
I'm not
I said
I was septica
Iha
like you
I said
But what
you think
you think
I'm
I'm
I'm
somebara
and
there
so I'm
there
I'm
the
food
that was
the
most
I'm
gusanable
Oh, so they'd have to
To get them to
PADD.
Rapid.
And he said,
and in that
moment
the
things were
more
more than
and then
it was to
even with me
attacks
energetic.
I'd
the doctor
me
attendia
because my
my
my tia
had a
problem
of the
heart
so he
but he
did you
did not
not say
nothing
and my
my ture
and my
my tio
for
Knows
of my
Tio
he recommends
to go
with a person
he says
to my Tia
and he's
septica
and I'm
I don't
I want
I don't
go to
but Anna, he said
that I
put super
bad
and I
accepted the
invitation
I said
then
then I'm
so we're
because
we're
we're
we've been
you're
you're not
you know
you're
you're
you're
well. But the attacks
that you're done,
despite,
says those are the
are the ones that
are going to
go.
They're going
with this person.
This person
yeah
felleceo.
She called
Rosa.
And my Tia
of carino
said,
Rosita,
the
she's
POSita, that
I'm going to
omitire.
I'm going to
do a
respect to
my Tia
that's
to be
to us
and I'm
to be
to
the cards,
I would
do that.
No,
I was in
that moment,
until
that one
night,
he got a
a becina
of my
dear,
that were
very amyas,
but
he was
and she
was,
she was,
well,
let me
put in
in context,
this
this
woman,
she had
three
children,
and the
of the
in the
middle,
she,
no,
he was,
supposedly
she had
had to
have been
to have
had to
the
second
15 years.
Yeah,
I was
to terminate
the
secondary.
But this
young
went to
periodical
and he
no
he went to
the house to
go to
the second
so I
was very
preoccupated
so my
my
tios,
my
primos
to be
to look
to the
person
to this
young
and so
and so
did
my
time
my t
the
time
he said
you
say
is that we're going to
a mention a
denuncia.
We're going to
a letter
to go to
the MP
for that
they've been
a busk
because he
had transcurried
two days
and the
the young
no apprecy
the adolescent
no
appeared.
So,
well,
when this
senior
was very
desperated,
my
tios
platican
between
them and
they're
to come to
the
conclusion
that they
should
they're
to
give
to
she.
So,
I
a little
a
have had
to have
had to have
a
novia
a
know he
he said
I'm
saying
so I'm
so I'm
well
yeah my
my
my
this
this
this
this
this
this
he's
he
even
even
because
not
they
don't
the
the
the
children
and
the
middle
the
they
they
And then,
regress,
she vaugh
and she
go to the
secondary.
No is a
man,
not a
man,
not a
man born
and so
we know
and so,
okay,
well,
so,
hand,
let me,
my
my Tos
platicing
with the
mom and
they say,
we're,
to,
to,
a,
to,
another reason,
because the
policeia
you know,
you know,
that's been,
that's
time,
and in
this type
of criteria
of,
of desperation,
to
That's degree, obviously,
you do you do
do you,
for here,
what it's
required is a
good news
and know
that's a
person.
The signora
accede.
He's said,
no, we
don't know,
we're going,
we're going,
and they
have my tios.
Me said,
he says,
and I,
don't,
no, no,
Tio,
go,
they,
they're going,
they're going,
this,
me,
they're
they,
okay?
Me,
They say that,
yeah,
getting
she
had more
people.
They're
because
had a
room,
like a
place
of a
placeio of
a
and the
woman,
and the
other
just,
I mean,
I mean,
I said,
you know,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm not,
I'm
said,
and he
said,
Lupe,
because my
my,
my,
my,
my Tia,
that's
that's called, Wadalupe.
Yeah.
That's good
that you
get to
Lupe.
Wait,
I'm,
the other
people who
were in
a mar
of the
lot of
the
and they
say,
passens it.
In
when I
see a
the
woman,
this person
yeah
of
almost
70
years,
the
she,
the
she said,
you know,
passel
yeah,
pass,
and passel
because
to
you have
a message.
they siten
in a mecita
and they're
that my Tia
me it
I'm sure
that this
never
never had
seen in
there
there
something
to do you
my
my Tien
the time
that this
person
well it
was
the
picture
of the
normalidad
that
he did
something
he's a
master
the mace
old
for sure
yeah
of
that
all
quartered
and he
he starts
and he
to see her
car of
a preoccupation
so my
my tia
she
was quite
pasmated
no
he's
Doya Rosita
what
says
don't
I want to
open my
book
that is
that some
that some
that some
I'm
I'm going
to give
I'm
don't me
want to
give
we're
we're
another technique
another
method
other method.
And yeah, my
my Tia
and he says,
what is
Do you know,
don't think
they're
no,
they're not
to get a
new,
an new,
an inquilino
he was
renting a
room, and
he was
and he
was a
and he
said,
he said,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
the alcohol
and my
puro.
She's
he's,
she's,
she's,
he plays
the puro
and
he's
to fumar.
He's
he's
a
little to
know that
he's
to know the
I'm going to
my tithe
I'm
and he
he's going to
and he
the old
I'm going to
or something
a alcohol
bebable
he was
he did it
and he said
the same
but she
said
like a
oration
yeah
he said
to the
inclino
agarram me
sientame
because
you know
what is
And then, and, de
a sudden,
pan, in the
mess, it's
like, so
for that she
she, she
gets to
turn to the
body,
but he's,
and he's,
and he
and then
more ergid,
but palida,
palida,
and until
that from
the
mirada,
let's
about other
person.
It was
like a
possession,
so could
to say,
using
some
an
entity
and they
and they
say,
what is
what they
want to
know that
is what you're
not a
woman Rosita,
no,
if someone
was positing
her,
oh,
no,
she's
she
my
chin to
her
my
body,
oh,
no,
and,
and,
uh,
and,
and they're,
and they're,
and
I'm,
I think
yeah,
in a
instance,
yes,
I mean,
I,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
did,
me,
But,
well,
I don't
go to
don't get to
not the
mists.
That's
antide,
so
I want,
let's
question.
With that
that's
I'm going to
ask,
what is
what you
want,
and my
tia
was,
because the
thing, to be
to be in
all the
I think,
she's
so I'm,
but,
I said,
but,
so,
my Tills,
no,
separate.
There's
a
question
to know
Rosita.
In
that my
Tia
is arm
to be
a
and he
says,
is that
we're
to know
for your
son,
he's
he's
the
question,
and he
did a
so they
were
to see,
the
environment
in that
in that
very
pesed.
Petsada
the
lady,
the
she was
the
girl's
and
started
to
get
a
awful
horrible.
And
that
like a
vintecito,
but
between
the cold
wind
those
started to
invade
all the
place.
The
bells
that had
said that
some
were
so they
were
so they
were like
I'm
not just
to think
it would
be
fear
no no
no
no
so
then
he says
he
he
he
not
in this
plan
to
he
he
he
took
for
error
oh
they
they
they
they
For error.
Look, I'm from the state of
Halisco, Nazareth.
Ah, yes,
yes.
So, yeah.
You know.
In Michoacan,
I'm going.
Inichael.
We're equal.
And we're
an error.
It was a error.
Yeah,
just they said,
that where
was,
he was specificed,
he said
that he was
interrado.
Let's do the
place,
go you
to look to
look to,
that was
about a
place where
it's like
a cerrador
grandissimo.
He's,
there's
there's
where they're
going to
find out of
many many
quantities.
There they
they're
they're
they're
for a
for the
this entity
before it's
said,
you know,
you know
to do?
I'm there
they're
they're
they're
they're
one of
one
of grace
my
my tios
no
not us
had
found to
my
Prims,
and me,
nothing.
Uh-huh.
Nothing more,
uh,
we're
they're
supposedly
they've been
encountered
the corpse,
lamentably
disvivided.
Yeah,
until
that's a
month,
we're going
to this.
Uh.
And,
and you,
you've
to do you
didn't the
cartes?
No,
I didn't
because
it was impactant
in what
I heard.
Sure.
Imagineate.
Imagineate
that they
were going,
you're
to do you
I prefer
or not
know
I don't
know.
I don't know.
But,
like,
for example,
in these
cases,
it's
supposed that
tarotists
or persons
that are
not in
their,
how we
could we
could we
say,
of his
moral
or not
to what
to say,
mention
the
first of
mention those
I'm
here.
Here,
I
said,
or
did you
something?
Disconosite
totally.
But
for the context in
that,
well,
past the child,
yeah.
The fact,
I mean,
I did a little
of,
no,
no,
no, me don't.
So,
I don't,
so.
And my
mal of the
matter,
so me
got to
because,
compared,
how is
that one is
that one's
that little
when there
when there
when there
really is
sofriending
to really.
So,
with that
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
and
To go on the
Fiatte
This that
you
You know
I'm
You know
I'm
made
my mother. I'm
I'm
I'm doing a
for there
had heard
that these
people who
were when I
was a
little,
were families
or parientes
lehanos
and the
situation is
in that a
family of these
people,
that were
the children
that were
the
man, this
sir,
he had a
problem
of a
dementia or
some
a very
similar
and has to
this
man were
they were
incered
in the
house.
I
think
many
of
the
people
that
are you are
here the program,
have known
to some
people in
their colonies
or have
some family
about,
of that
that's
not they're
not they're
in institutions
of health
and do you
do they're
in their
houses,
those
they're
they're
incerated
with
the
times
are very
deplorable
but the
case is
in that
this
sir is
in
one occasion
not they
didn't
have taken
with
the
door
the
Lord
is
and he
said he
said he
said
and he
he's
and they're
many
days
to start
it's
and they
they're
they're
they say
you know
and say
what
Maribel
we need
we
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
so we
think
my mother
says
my mother
says it's
we're going to
the balet
palms
on the
hand of the
patient
or of the
person that
pere
this and
he's
to observe
the flama
of the
bell.
She said
that
no,
that is
the
time of the
flame,
how it
is the
decaram the
the
cera
but
she a
me
me
I mean
a
type of
flashes
or like
if
were
like
were
and
I
said
that
in
that
occasion, she
observed
to
someone that
was with
much
a lot,
lastimed
at the
front of
something that
was a
nora.
So,
the
people
are saying,
ah,
they're in a
nora,
we're going
to look
and they're
saying,
oh,
wait,
he
is in
his
ultimate
alient.
When
you're
you,
will be
to be
being
a
without
a,
without,
They're
in all the norias
that they could have
encountered in the
city
and curiously
that noria
was a
scarce,
that was a
half a
kilometer of
our house
and they
they're
and you know
what was
the cause
of the
fallaciment
of this
person
that the
noria
that he
cameo
there were
many
panas
of apaches
imagineate
for
the
abejas, because
it was a
because
yeah
after I
also had
the,
the
facility
to see the
was a
noria
that was
a new
was in
function,
a poso
that was
in function
and was
a reen
of the
time,
so of
scombros,
then then
then I
had,
I was
no,
no,
and the
sir,
came came
in a
blandito
but
came to
one of
the panes.
The
feo or
lamentable
of this
case is that
they're
they're
going to
they're
going to
the
whole
to be
my
mother
because
it's
a
no, that
was the
brao
it's
the
and it
and it
I think
totally.
You know
you
have time
to
this of the
the
of the
social
a year
a year
one
okay
you've
you've
you're
you're
that you
say
that's
this
story
yeah
there's
a
Let's what is the most
that's
the most
that's
this person?
Okay.
This story
me
it's called
a subscriber
but not
it's directly
of that
his subscription.
Ah,
he told
an experience
that he said.
Yes.
But I
think it's
for the
family.
Because
me it's
quite
very,
bastante.
Very detailed.
I'm going
to narrar
so,
not so
not so
that's not
detailed
as he
did,
but
So,
that's
me escape in
details.
Okay.
Okay.
This
story is
of a person
that's
a manseas.
Uh-huh.
It's like
type
hechicero.
Yes.
No.
There's a
difference
between
and a
witcher,
I think
so.
It's a
I think.
I think
so.
This person
is of
Chiapas.
Ah,
okay,
of the
South.
Okay.
So,
then says
that
from a
from the
from the
people,
they'd
to the,
the child
so,
so his
mom was
her mother,
she was
she'd
and all this
type of,
of brebages,
and,
well,
and then,
I was,
still there,
I'm
a one
one more,
he was,
he and
one armament,
nothing,
never
he knew
to his
father,
Cresier.
Lerone,
and
one night
a person
that's a person
that was
visiting a
mother.
And then,
and then you
know,
that maybe
he was a
father
because
his mom
he had
with,
like,
like,
if they were
to know,
and he
and he
said,
he,
18 and he
he said, no
I can't
talk because he
is to
he's going
to go.
He said to
his mother
and his
mother
he says no
let's
let him
he's
supposedly
this man
he was
he said
you know
you know
that you
did you
did with
the
with the
devil
and he
he said
he's
he went
and he
he's
he's
he
didn't
he
did he
and I
know
how desacar me
of that.
The mom
of this
man of this
man
he
he can't
give to
God.
Entrack
to God.
Dicest
is that
is impossible.
When
you do
you say
no you can
run per
and he
will be
to cover
he will
come
for me
and he
was like
just like
just
just waiting
for
where he
would get
or
no
so.
With
a
delirio
of
Sure,
clear,
sure,
I'm
I have to
go,
but this
person
so he
was a
he was
to be
18.
So,
there was
there's
there
and he
was
his
life
normal
until
when
he
he
was,
yeah,
he was
a
month of
his
18
years
and
they
they're
to
susit
things.
The
first
is
that
he
He, he, he
he's
he's
he gets like
like, oh,
caray,
I'm so
sonamble or
something, no?
He's
to go to
his house
before that
he's done
his mom
and her
and her
and he
was like,
I'm a sonambulo?
What?
What's going?
Well,
he's
that the
next experience
and now
his family
has
he
he's
he
a
one
because there
there are
there are
there are
canyons
and all of
he's
he gets
a lot of
a
caro
of one of
some
of the
of
the
and when
he
he's
he gets
what I'm
what I'm
what I'm
what I'm
doing
here
to the
the
laguna
in the
middle of
the
night
he says
that
just that
just
with the
lunar,
could
see that
he was
he was
he's
moving in
circles
very
very
very
slowly.
In
that,
something
something
in a
corner
in a
corner
and it
was a
he
described
that it
was
a
red
but
he had
a
tunica
no
he could
see
the
he
he
he
You're going to
15
and for
your lineage
for your
descendency
recal in
all the
all the
know of the
of the
18 years
you have to
go to your
house
and by
through
the
through the
so
it's
to say
to go
to
to go
to be
to be
to be
part
of
a cult
It's true.
I don't know
because the
history
is so
interesting.
So,
it's
that
that
he said
this
this
sombra
a
longada.
If
accept
this
this
herensia
because this
you
correspond
for herencia
so
he said
he said.
Recai
in
you.
If
accept
you,
I'm
to say
the
day
the
hour
in that you're going to
fallacy.
No,
you're
not to
not.
But
it's
to be to
inculcary
and it's
to be to
teach all
the
other the
occultism.
So,
so he's
he's
pacted.
So,
so he's
done,
he's
he's,
he's,
he had to
have a
dream.
He had
had to
go.
You're
saying
that they're
saying,
that's
they're
going,
and he said
that so he
he had
to get
to get
to get
to some
a little
very far
so far
so much
so
now
now
now
so
now is that
now
that's
his
that was
a
problem
so
he hadentra
some
caverns
so
they were
they
they were
to
where
I had
to
go
to go
and
to
He hadentra in the caverns.
He's going to
every way
more because
a cavern
can be spaces
small,
spaces
great, and
every bit says
that he's
even going
and some
times it was
being rastran
this person
describes
that this
man,
he lived the
experience
close
so,
so can say
that he
saw he was
he was
the same
diablo
he
he went
to a
little
a
cavern
could
be
a
dark, and
all
the
and they
they're
to get
yantos,
yantos
of the
lot.
And a
odor of
and it's
a
little
the
place.
A little
much
people are
to say,
well
but
it's
under the
water
can be
it.
It's
yeah,
it's
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
so,
yeah,
but,
now,
it's
perfectly
that he
started
to be
a
light
a
little,
a
A tree
Seco.
And in
that
arbor
there was
a person
was
fumando
but
was sat
and he
he said,
he said,
and he
said,
and when
he said
to that,
he
was the
person,
he was the
entity?
Yeah,
sure.
And the
only
that had to
say,
the
indication
was
to get
there
to
that
that
was
so
that
they're
and
so
he
did.
He says that
he said that
he started
to have
much
knowledge
because he
he was a
other
that other
sombra
that had
seen the
car no
the first
and he
was
and he
was indicated
and he
he began
to acquire
knowledge
he said
he's
he's
he's
actually
for
certain
cases
more
complicated
that he
he
attend
this type
of
situations
more
complicated.
How of what type?
No,
I'm specific,
I want to
imagine that
are these situations
of Casilla
that you're
petatea
that you
say, no,
you know,
you know,
you know,
things so
so much.
What has to
do you
do that'sotor?
Sure,
with the
esoteric.
He also
he also
he acquired
the
mother,
obviously,
for the
yearbas.
Yeah.
Also,
also.
Yeah.
Also,
but that
he to that
he's a little
that he likes
the things
more
because that
he's
prepared.
And so
that is the
story that
me told
that's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
because the
narrate,
because the
I said,
I said,
I'm not that
I said
interesting.
Ah,
is very good
the
story,
very interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah,
so,
yeah,
so there
says that
all the
pactus
with the
diablo
can
to get to
to the
generations
posterior to
who
has the
fact.
Figgate
that I
have a
story
that is
quite
very
for the
reason
that
almost
all
were in the
family
and
almost
they
this story
me
that was
a
person who is
of Guadalajara
and
me
says
being a
person
that
pertene
to the
policy
and
is
an
person
important
very
fanatic
of
the
stories
paranormal
because he was participle of one.
This person
says that since
he was a young,
since he was a
oldecent,
always he
remember with
money.
So the money
never was a
problem in his
family.
What he said
about the
stories of
his tios
and also
of the
other of the
other
was that
they were
that they
passed very
bad.
So,
they were
problems
economic,
They'd have
mal in
all in
all.
They were
all the
salient.
From a
other
to one
a other,
they were
to have
much
a cosecha,
and they
were to
many
products
of agriculture
that
mayis
and tomato
and
and that
even
even
even got
to
make
to
do
a
extra
a
thing
very
that
was a
very
that
at that time because he still
didn't even
not yet
he never
had
but his
his
he was
he said
he said
this
manned
that in
some
moment of
his
life
all
all of
this
world
that the
first
did it
did a
first
did a
very
very
very fair
no
see
if you
remember
that
some
years
well
I don't
I don't
I don't
I don't
I don't
I don't
and many
years,
in Guadalajara
there
were
some
explosions.
Yes.
Okay.
It was
very sonated.
Very,
so it
was a
thing
tremendous
because in
this area
there was,
there
were some
conducts
where
transportable
that were
this
combustible
that were
with some
some
two,
with some
the water,
so there
was a
lot of
the system of
One of the, it was, it was horrible.
So, the photos, the videos are terrible.
Commented this chico,
that,
for there,
was, they were in the offices of the company,
and that in that occasion,
went to his mother in this vehicle,
and that the only that they could find
in the vehicle
was a little enumeration of the plaque.
Neither encountered a,
to their mom.
Arsinators.
Nothing
encountered.
Passed this,
he was
something
a little
lamentable
and after
one of his
brothers
was,
and at
the time
was trying
studying
in a
school
of the
other
a school
very
prestigious
and imagine
what was
your
level of
economy
that in
this
country
I think
that
was
the
United
He had his
own department
he had
his
vehicle
deportive
I don't
he suffered
for nothing
the man
he was
with all
his friends
had to
an accident
and of
all the
only that
was the
mano
imagine
imagineate
how was
the
he was
destroyed
he was
destroyed
he
there
here
there
there
there
things
a bit
a bit
more
very
because the
papa
was in
a
in a
in a
state
in a
depression
but what
he was
he made
a
strange this
man was
that his
father
said this
is my
fault
is my
because
I did
that all
for the
pinche
dinner
and
you know
he
he said
they're
on
a
cost of
a
house
a
body
where
had
an
em
the
of products,
of fertilisants,
and the
Lord took a
little pastilla
that is very
toxic and with
that's
the life.
For the depression.
It's that
is very
very.
After this,
the man,
imagineate
how he was
just about
he was
only.
He also
he also
he was
studying in
the
extraanger
for when
when it
was
complicated to continue studying.
She went to
Guadalajara to
to go to the
people that were
with the person that he
he knew where he was
studying,
he was trying to
Mexico,
she casted with
her and
they were
to have certain
difficulties.
So,
her husband,
so,
standing
embarrassed
was,
he,
per die,
a,
a,
a,
his baby.
So imagineate what was
his,
um,
when he put to
to think
to all the
things that
had been to
think of
in those
words that
said his,
his papa,
for the
pinche
dinner,
for the
maldito
dinner.
And when
was there
in that
at that
kind of
a duelo,
a
one of
he was to
begin to
begin to
because
was in
the hospital
when
her
her husband was in
the
he said, he said,
you know,
you should be
to be able to
your spouse in
this moment.
It's
hard, it's
very, but
imagineate
how she
she's
she's
and there
same,
that's a
person,
and it's
all what you
is your
fault, but
be and
attend to
your spouse
in this
moment.
In a
moment,
we're
so it's
like if
he was
so he's
so he went
with her
her husband,
they're
so
they're
So,
when I took
time to
talk to
talk to
the
woman,
with this
the
doctor,
the doctor
he says,
you know,
I know
that you
see that you
have a
mother or
his mother
had the
power
to try to
and say,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
he has to
the people,
he takes the
word
immediately
he does
know,
my,
you're not,
my,
you're
You're cargadissimo with a maldiction.
A maldiction made by those fathers.
Have you done that they don't remember if the family
by part of his papa was of a area that was called,
I don't recall, what was the name,
but is it pegged to the Lago of Chapala.
Peggedo to Lago of Chapala.
And there, at a one side, they had a rancho.
comment this
muchch
that the rancho
in this
vivian
his
abelos
and the
the
abuelos
never
they were
there
there
many
many years
his
parents
and this
practically
was a ranchito
but
like the
of the
the
little of the
little
stable
but the
the
the father
of this
muchach
so they
were
like a
sienda
they
they're
they're
very
very
he says, we need
to this man, we need to go to this
place. There is where it's
where it's all.
So, when
they're going to the
place, they're
in this place, and
the signora
to say the man,
that had to desenterar
something that was in the area
of the potreros.
Oh, no, what
me.
In plain a madugada,
that when they were
scarvando all this,
they're going to
start the laments of
the perils,
of the gats,
a scandal.
There was a
portoon
very great
just in
the entrance
and it's
a lot of
the porthons
and the
she said,
excuse what
you see what
you're
you can't
you can't
do you.
When you
see what
was there
he,
he's a
type of
a contract
a
type of
a
work of
or something
and it's
where it's
written
that they're
doing
with the diablo.
All a
change of
money.
When the
senior desiso
this,
there's
he said
he's
a man,
your
father,
did you
did a
pacto
for
money,
directly
for
money,
for interest.
I know
what was
the reason,
but
you were
the only
that was
affected
for the
maldition
but
you could
have
fallen
had fallen
also.
So, the
lady
basically
decided this
job,
this man
could
continue
his life
in form
normal.
I repeat
me comment
that is
a political
important
of Guadalajara.
Politico
important and
an
company,
agricultur.
I
did investigate
but
not I
didn't mention
these
numbers
for the
reason that
are
people
that are
if
are
They've
told their
stories,
we've
always
we've seened that
not all the
people
they're not
because they
know the
people who's
a lot of
a person of
a social
sociate.
Of that
the factors
with the
devil
or with
these
entities,
because
ultimately I've
received
certain
affirmations
of some
the other
people
where me
say that
the devil
no
can manifest
in Latin
America.
Raro,
no?
Rarissimo.
Very
very.
But
can
They can be entities
that are very similar
to the devil.
But is interesting
because they're saying
that's,
what you know?
What the past
that says this
person to the
person to the
devil no
can manifestarse
where
where not is
originary.
Of where
the
devil,
it's could
say,
me says that
where is in
Europe.
Yes,
it's
But there has to be that
Capitual,
for that you
understand.
But if we
go to what
does the Bible,
we know,
we know that
not is in
Europe.
Serian
in the
Mediterranean.
Ah,
of the
fact,
figgate that
me,
I'm also
about
written about
written
of Sumerios
or no
I remember
of which is,
where is,
where they
mention a
certain
demonios
or certain
deities
malignas.
I mean
They mention them
Those cultures
But not is
Like Satanas
Or the devil
So he
He affirma
That what he
He says
Or so
Invoc
In certain
Cases
Where you
To make you
To make
Not precisely
Is the
Diablo
Sino
entities
that is
pertain
To be
To say
To be
To be
Toes
Toes
If
If you
If you
To
That
That you
Caigan
That
That
Cip
That is
Conor
in LaBea, interesting
so,
for there
for that you
know,
no,
I don't want
to say,
this Sandeses,
but it's
a theme
about interesting.
Interesting.
Yes,
very interesting.
So,
that story
that you
told me,
is directly
of a
subscriber.
So,
and let me
say to
me,
in the
time that I
was studying
the bachelor,
I,
I,
I,
a master,
that he
had a
brother. He was like he was
he promoted when, every
every time he was to
his house.
Yeah.
With his family.
He said,
he's going to
be my brother
fulano.
And I said,
why do you
mention you
what you're
what you're
what you're
what you're
and you
say,
look, you
think you
think you're
well,
as I've
passed what
I've said
to my
Tios.
Yes.
I go,
well,
the
really,
yes,
but
50 and
50.
It's
so.
Sure.
Me
I said,
look,
my
brother,
he's
he's
he's
he's
he said
he's,
I know
to demonology
that,
uh,
that's
so it's
interesting,
because
are legions.
Sure,
so.
So,
when
me said
that I'm
said,
okay,
look,
to
let me
to tell
some
stories.
Look,
to not
to not
to do you
just to be
to say
that's
he's
I'm
and I'm
and he
he said
okay
he's
but he
he can't
try
he can't
let's
let's
many
many many
so I
know okay
me
when you
you're
you
you're gonna
you
and you
my
my brother
he's
my
he's
he's
he's
he's
he knows
what are
those
are the
most
the
And okay, interesting.
But, well,
I'll tell you a story.
This is a little bit of just
to do you,
what,
this is a little bit of the,
this
he was made to my mother
to his
desksos six years.
She's of Guadalajara,
Halisco.
So,
so, she's that
she's always in the
times, my mom
actually, yeah
has 80 years.
Yes.
So, she is
of antawn.
And,
so,
his parents
very strictos
and,
because
you know,
and just you
d'nases,
and you
were a scov,
if you were
a woman,
and if you
were,
you're going to
go to
work to
the earth.
The traditional.
Sure.
So,
she,
she had to
get to
in the
times with
her
oldita.
Yes.
And he
said that
he
And it called much the attention
the house
of her
abuelita
because
never they
never they
to get to
a room
in specific.
In
that quarter
was a
woman,
a tia,
a tia,
that said
that was
that was
very apart
to the
family.
No
could be
to be
to them
to
none.
And that
this
tia
had had
a
had been
to be
a
Casada,
you could
say.
Oh,
yeah.
And,
and he was
a
castada.
Nothing
more
was,
he was
he
and he
and so
he said,
nothing
not
not you
go to
get to
the
room
to the
woman.
For
favor,
see,
Aobalita.
But,
when you
do you
need the
things to
someone,
it does
more
curiosity.
Yeah,
he says
that
one
time,
he's
I was up to doveres in the
house of my
abuelos and
she's
with this
abuelita.
And that
he was going
for a
passillo
long as
that house
because they were
in cases
and it.
And be
that the
door is
I'm going
to get
I'm going to
I'm going
to know
what has
my
my tia
he
met the
court
and he
a quartito
an quartito
ustero
a
catre
see a ornilla and a
book.
It's a
interesting the
book.
That was
about,
was like
accommodated
yeah,
like to,
I know,
that was
that person
and to
and to
continue
to get it.
I don't
know,
so.
But,
I said my
mom,
that that
that was
that
had,
like,
like,
those
written
that
not
I could
learn it.
My
mom
leo
from
my mom
because,
obviously,
the people were in the
krearra, the
other language, it was,
and I remember
perfectly
that if I had
symbols,
I had
a,
monos
desnudos
that
now
I see
that
what's
that's
that you
that's
that I'm
not the
thing
what I'm
what
the impactante
is when
me
she says
my mom
that she
no
knew
the time
that
she said
because
because
I'm
that was
that
fascinated
with
that
that
I'm
that
I'm
I'm
my
little
my
abuelita
me
to
No, what do I mean, and say,
that I'm, that I'm
that's all right.
There I'm
waiting,
expecting that my
mother,
she was going to,
and I'd say,
and I'd say,
no,
my abuela,
it was my
tia,
enter the tia,
uh,
seera the
door,
she quita the
rota the rota.
The tia,
she'd get a rope.
The tina,
it was like a
little,
a little fugoncito.
He had a comalito
like,
agarra
the book
and he
he's a
saying
my mom
that she
is sure
of what
she was
that was a
that's
he was
perfectly
that he
saw the
and
they put
in the
comal
and
when
she when
she
she comes
she
she cover the
the
gritty
and he
then he
he begins
his
his
his
that that
she was
transforming
in an
animal.
When
it's
this
tia,
no
she was
but this
she was
she was there
she
was there.
He was
a
purpose
I think
so,
and he
said, and
she said
that's over
she orin-
the fear
and like
that's,
I was,
I was,
yeah,
I was,
yeah,
it was,
it was,
this,
horror
Because I didn't
because I didn't
cry.
She's
kept up
the
book but
the
fear of
the fear
he had to
that's
that he
said,
because
he was
in an
animal
no he
he said
he said
when I
go
I want
I want
that you
go
you
go and
you
never you
never
to
get
that
that's
that
my mom
came
he
took
his
blackout
and my
mother,
nothing
just said
that she
when
she said,
my mom
my
abuela,
my
ex-awuela,
she
had to
her
and she
said,
where
you got
you got
you
but my
ex-abuela
no
he said
that he
had
found
in the
court
of
her
she.
He
told a
story
distinct
oh,
no,
but
they were
at the
house
of
my
abuelos. So my mom,
all the years,
after that experience,
I said, no, I what I did,
I did, so, it's something real. It's something.
It's a little. No, it was a
dream. Because I, I mean,
it's like, like, like, like,
if, like, it's, like, I'm, you know,
I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, you know,
I'm going to say, because?
Because when I, when I've completed
12 years,
my mom
learned to
put a
suero and
injecter.
I'd
study to
study medicine.
A
yeah,
he's
some
doctors that
came to
the people
that did
their
work.
As I
learned very
very
so,
then they
started to
get to
to
start to
inculka
a little
more of
medicine.
So in
that time
in the
people
was to
start
a mitote.
of that
an animal
but that
not was an
animal
that was
that was
that was this
type of
a groujo
transformed
in an animal
so my
mom
a calli
and said
it's my
man
yeah
they've been
seen
yeah
and that
they were
they're
they're
they're in
a palis
so and
then
my ex-aweller
my vis-a
my miss
my mother
and he
that
be with
the doctor is that
your tia is that's
very grave
what you
have?
And she
she went to
see her
and she
was her
confirmation
of that she
was a
animal and that
what he
was real
oh,
so it
suena the
stories of
these
grujas
that
that they
get on the
that
keep on the
the piernas
she quit
the eyes
but
But it's my mom
that
also
he saw
how he
took to
the
lot of
my mom
yeah no
I want to
imagine
to be
something
so imagine
to be it's
not so
that's that
I don't know
if I
said the
Miss-Aweil
my
miss-a-
no-s
I think
she
she
she yeah
she was
what she
she
obviously
for the
religion
that the
Catholicism
very
arraigated
very of
the
then,
that she
does what
that
that
nobody
that's
that you
it's a
way,
it was to
that was
she was
she was
she was
and never
she
never she
so
so much
rumurabhan
in the
family
in the family
of the
kids
I heard
she used
some
she had
got
with the
diablo
for
that never
she
she
and he
another
A friend, a
A friend that
I was
and also
was in
a room
but I
think they were
like they're
like they're
like that
I'm
I'm very
I'm sure
I'm sure
I'm sure
I'm not
oh no
no no
no no
don't know
let's you
you're
you're
you're
that's
they're
they're
and they're
and travisuras
to
to the
emradios
those
we're
we're
that
they're
maldates
yes
But of that animal,
you know,
that's the same
Tia, that's the same Tia,
it's the part
more scabroza,
so could say.
This, me,
me, me,
told my Tia,
that in Pazes Cance.
No,
I wanted to tell me
but I don't know
why it's,
I said,
you, you know,
that Tia
that you said,
that they said
that was a
very travisa,
to not say
that was a
girl,
a wala,
she?
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm
I don't know. Perfect.
Well, what you think,
she says, she's, she's, she,
she's, she's, she's,
in the patio of
your bice-a-wela.
She decoroed with
flowers. In Guadalajara,
obviously, is a ranchito.
Well, it's,
what is, this,
Guadalajara, the capital, is
a little bit of
a little. Okay.
And, says, well,
they're all right. They're all right.
but what you think is that the father
no care
to make a smitha
because you know
because you know
that she
dedicated to the
malo
but for respect
to the family
and because
obviously
the family
always was
very ported
in that
he did
it was
for respect
and they said
that when
they were
the night
there's
a custom
that they
make
the food,
they invite
to eat,
in what you
veils to
the person
fallecese.
Yeah
it's a
night.
And then
one
just were
despiding
and others
just were
and others
were so.
This
said that
was about
about at
11,
11 and
a media.
And
it's not
it was
at the
night.
They started
to be
that
a sunbr
in the
sky.
That was
more
it's obscure that the night
is the postro
where was the ferretro
but a distance,
obviously.
Yes.
The most impactant
that's
that my Tia
and this is
I do-Nazaria,
if I got to
that the
ferretro
is to get
to levite.
To levite.
When
when the
the pocus
that were there
that was levita
They're not going to start and others
are going to grab them.
But it was a certain distance.
Not so, a certain distance,
that she had a certain distance that this was
impactant and that all notar.
All those were to rest.
They were, she was, that she was, it was,
she was a mal.
Agarred in the ferretto,
but they're saying that was
pesadishim.
And that something is
disprended.
You saw,
that
something
that,
no see
that,
that
a,
that's
a,
it's more,
less tenue
that no
they can't
perceive,
but it's
when they're
when they're
in the
the caja,
the can,
and they're
and res,
and they're
very pesed.
The cajone.
What was
was doing
his surprise?
That there
had piedras.
Puredras.
Dentro of
the
cage.
Yeah
not
was the
body.
So,
then the
family,
the few
people,
the few people
that were
all over
people,
and all,
they were
they were
that they're
nothing.
That's
they were
to do the
miso,
that not
to be
to be able
yeah
the cajorn.
So,
and what
they're?
The
pias.
Pyras.
Pyras.
O'A.
That
so very.
That's
very
Firt.
Still
after
after
of his
death.
Yes,
one
would say
that are
things
very fantastic
but in
this
world there
and there
and I
know that
that's
that's
that
is something
is a
sonate.
Now
they know
many people.
There's
there,
there's
like
like the
same
story,
but I
know.
But that
story me
me to
my tia
of that
that
I can
I think I'm like,
I mean,
I said,
so it was
it's a
my mom.
Yes.
Oh,
that's going to
also your
my tea?
Yeah,
my tia
my t'uella?
Yeah.
Something like.
Yeah,
no,
because what's
that's good
to be in Tazari?
Much
thanks.
This,
I hope
that more
a manita
and we'll
let me chis a
manita and
we'll be
and for that
and for
that's,
and for
there,
with Ari.
So,
but there
is creator
of content.
I'd
like to be able to
say,
you're,
you're
who are
your
your reds?
Okay.
I'm
Ari of
Nocturnia
and you
can't
find in
TikTok and
Facebook,
also on
Nocturnia
point Terror.
Excellent.
You
thank you
much,
and I
hope you
I'm the
last time.
Sure
that we're
and you
thank you
and you
thank you
to be
until
the final
of this
chapter
of this
interesting. I think for
you think for you
also, not
you know, no
you know,
the next
chapter, in the
next
Marche's,
and more
than the
MED
Martinez.
I want to
do the
good.
All the
next.
