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Episode Date: July 23, 2024

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And in front of me, be a newbue of the sky and at the middle of that a nubes there was a monge

that said, I'm I'm going to go to go to and you're going to and I'm

getting to amnice with quamaduras for all the back, arms,

and piernas chemadur in form of a man. Of a one

complete? So, so like if were of the kids. And I'm

and I'm to hear tell to my family that I'm sorry and I said it

was the voice of a woman and there was another person that

also I said I then I'm then I go and let's let me let me

what I what I look is a two persons that were taken the

life a woman and I'm I'm I message. The family

and not you could contact with the ex-aweil and with the abel. There's

a point that you can be possible to contact with your family if you

have been 15 years, 20 years, 30 years because also the spirit

and the cycle of reincarnation. And for that reason we can

not they're not never is viable. Me asked is that

If you could have to be a marre to be with a person I, that would be more know how to attract the person correct for you? What is what you do you have to do? To have more

confidence in you and to be able to do that you want to affect to the other people? Salados and welcome

Amantes of the Disconocid to a new chapter of the MED with Jesus of Nazareth

Martines. In this occasion, dear followers we're to talk with a person

quite interesting. Alejandro Rojas Spiritista. Hello, I want to thank you.

I'm here I'm my speciality is the spiritism taromansia and what is runology. Excellent.

Crear me that some of the stories that I've told me have been are supermente interesting.

No, so you know, in this chapter. The world spiritual

is So, it started to manifestar, since I was a child, because I could contemplate to the mortals. I remember that I was with my mom, and a spirit, I was going to the house,

and me said, my body, I'm going to be outside. And I was, and I said, oh, there's a man with with such characteristics, and me is saying

that's out of it. We had the door and there was the CEMEFO and the body there

in the acer. Ah, I mean front of the CMEFO? Well, the camion

Ah, okay, the vehicle that was transportable. The vehicle that was transport and

what you what you what you was the spirit of the person that was

correct so then then then after to get to have

I'm to have to I remember, the most the more's a more than the matress, and a woman

of Blanco she's to be able to present, always in the madrugada, indicating me that she

was not been, that had had been that was not really the that was

to go to get to and it was a day, two days, and I said,

okay, I'm going to review, I'm I'm medical and they

found gases into the the area. The medical he said you're

you're you're for you have a infection very diseminable something something

and something and some things that are a time you talk about

about a situation that you pass a supermame something

something quite in the that they took to attender or intervene, to certain point.

Comment us, what was what you happened? I was, in the secondary. No, we're going

very well economically. We had to move and we found a house. That house had a

cabados of luxury, two visos, patio delanter, patio tracero. At the

moment of I enter for first first, I'm to say to my mom,

this, something not not really here, something I don't know I'm really a

sense, and I was very curious because there was a ventanal and it was to

the patio and there was the light when there was the solace outside. So,

then so, okay, we're, we're doing we're doing the mudanza and at the time,

all the days at 3 of the morning, she was a woman that was a woman who then

then it was the people were the timbre of the house to ask

if all was all was all perfect all the world was done all the

all was they were they were they And it was

creasing at the point of that was the police to find what was what

was going to know? Sure. At past of the days,

in the piece of the house, it started larvas of

panteons, it was to get to moscas and then

then they're to start more the things of

the level. I, in the night's sentia that I was up the MIRTO and I despondia. And in front of me, I saw a nubia obscure and

at the middle of that nubes'n there was a monge that me said, I'm you're going to you're going to

you, and it was augmenting and I'm with comedures for all the back, back,

the arms, and the cremated in form of a hand.

Of a man complete? So, like if were of the children.

I'm I'm started to personality radically and I continued

desprendium but the things were going on the

because apart of that monge be a like some

like a so as a reference to a

Like a dementor in the astral That's what you're That's chuping Is what you You see? From the astral So, So,

so, Yeah, for Asores The Destino, my family He knows A, a A, a

A, a chick, that says, No, well, I know, I know a place where

they can help or those can help. And, and you know, that is

a temple spiritualist Trinitarian Mariano. Recurred to have arrived a house normally. Then, enter in a house and in that

habitation, there was, like, a pyramid of seven peldanios, and there had the sides,

some facultades or hermanitos of the people, entranse, with a spirit of the light,

and I just remember that said, alert to the and I had the connoissement in that moment.

When you ingressaste? When I recobre the connociement I remember to have seen the faculties around me all with

her batta and above of me there had been like a sphere of a bird of the light and

it was it's strange because it was like to like a hour of my life

without what Yeah, more And then I said, No, well, you know, you know, so, Tenton'to time,

no, so it's never to cover. The faculty that was attending, I was a mano,

Sebastian A Costa, Islas. Something to do Pachita. Ah, okay. A, okay. A sanator.

And I said, no, is that you you have, Videncia, you're clarividence, you have a mission on the world spiritual.

In fact, me said, you remember if you do you you, you're doing, that's that they're coming in the auger constantly. And I, yes, it's correct. You're suenjave that? Yes. And yeah me told, that's one of those

lives pasted. And it's it's you're permitting to return to this time to continue with that mission spiritual. So, then you know,

I'm invited to what are cathes where there are some faculties that are people who are

capable of canalize to canalize to the divinities. In this case, as a

name it's trinitarios Marianos are with the Trinity Catholic, Jesus,

Elias and Maria. Are you a institution Catholic? No. It's a doctrine

funded by Roque Rojas in the year of 1860 In a catechre, the pedestal, without know my name,

me called Alexander, a little Alejandro, that you're in my people, pass to my plants. And me, he said, you know, why you're here? I'm,

I'm, I'm going to give my mark or my erredat, which is this, it's a consagration for that you

can't work with other brothers of Luce and to give the examination

to the person but I was in that time I said I'm

I'm I'm I'm prepared I think I don't

I'm not I'm to accept that responsibility and that

that pedestal well me he said okay you did

the first call. You're going to receive a second call to the long of your life. One of this I'll go ahead. I'm aloft of the temple spiritualist, Trinitarian Mariano,

and begins to study my career, I'm, now my career in engineering. Then I took a parkeh in that period. Casualsely, she may invite a party. She cancelsed the

Fiesta, she He gets solo in his house we We started to

talk I'm I'm with her in the night she see a

new a new obscure that me said if you

you do you do she she all time

she she she and they start to get

the hands The medics no had an explanation scientific

and we're to get to get them to receive the curations if you start to get a

little but I get a point in that they say no we don't

we recommend to other temple where even they they were

they're they're to start and start to start

and it and there there was there mentioned

even was for a work of magic nereg. During all the movement energetic, I

pierced my job, me start to go back economically, but while she

had a certain a majoria. Well, in a cate and

another faculty that I didn't know, during the canalization

they they're they're they're a little Alejandro because

so is the that these are the divinities, no? Okay. Me, I'm acerc to the plantas, and me this is the second call. O'Rely.

You know, you know, I'm going to, I'm not, I'm not I'm not I'm prepared, no, I want to have that responsibility. I want to get a life normal.

But yeah was the last call. So, three calls. Ah, are three. And I said, okay,

no, I'm going to do to do do the second And the third call is it's going to be a through the

master Dolor you're going to ask you go to ask you know the

things were going to end up economic my mom went

to get without without without the time I felt

I felt and I'm very very very very

hard of the head so so then when

I go I to give the consagration I accept

to help my don't to help to help the other is when I'm going to and I

say, but now you're to have to start with a spejo I want that

know you know the work spiritual spiritualist tenitaria Marianna

the the space is in car of the labors of

the temple to help to the facilities that

are doing a a curation, well, no tarded any three months in

that they made you have made to receive my first consagration, yeah as spiritualist,

which is the mark. The mark they're they're done with an seed of olive

consagrated for the divinidad. And you give a name spiritual. And that

name spiritual is that is the that is the that's the moment to

the moment in that the spiritual of the light, it's a so when it's a

moment of you're going to you're going to then you know, then they received my first my

first guide spiritual. I was not a effect to the religion Catholic and I

see to see in my dreams a triangle black a lake enormous

and there many there were many people formed with someone

that I had vestiment Antigua but very Antiva and me said, I'm Juan the Baptist

I'm going to your Guilla spiritual. The spiritual is the that's the person to

ask you to do you to do your transit spiritual how to do

that you can gervas you're to use with every patient

to to help to you can't get to

You're not suret of the that's that can't circundate. No pass any a

year when receive a curative. And that was called Turbina of Arizona that was

encargues spiritual, sanation for imposition of hands and certain

curations. There it was I received in a manner very

rapid there other faculties that you can't get four years, eight years to start to prepare to you can't canalize to your guardians. Well, no

pass more than a year when I receive to my third guardian is when you're ready to govvveter, that you're canalizing of the divinities. Referringen to those divinities, to who we refer to?

Alias, Maria, and Jesus. the man just canalize and a Elias and Maria is for the

faculties that's the sex feminine so I receive the consagration me

I'm a time because I needed to I to

other tasks more mundan I need to get a

money I need to start to I know

a little and I I got to another temple where I'm, I'm marked as as a pedestal.

He's just made in that moment. Oh, no. You, you have the mark, and you're pedestal? I'mpecce to to exercise my labor as spiritualist. I'mpe to

do you. One of the curations more fursions that I did, I got a family with a little this, a little, like,

with a con a borgas, a force overhuman the guy in

that was in the he said I'm I can't do I have to have to

there. There three facultes, we could control the then so what I did what I have to

do, as spiritualists we we have the faculty to be a ...aculted to

enter to other type of entities and for the guardians that we're they can can... ...can take to the entity a way more simple, less indolora,

and more rapid. So I've got to enter in a trance and my guide principal was the the depojo, halloed the entity, and it permitted to take my

my body in that moment. To take the entity that posseal the nina? Aha. The little to the normality.

I'm I'm I'm the exorcism. The consequence of that exorcism was that

was that was that was a very prepared. Me back those defences, it's

me complica, me do pneumonia and I enter in a state critical. I remember

that me was done He was always I was like if it was a sponge in the pulmones.

The medics not had very good opinions about my state of health, not they were much

some and I remember I had been in a garden and was a little bit of a little

a little a lion of a little bit and that she said I don't you're going to

you you'll have to recover. But, but before, I'd and I would be

a lot black. I remember that in that garden, I said that light that was

that that's your voluntat. You know? Never I've understood

that it in si. I suppose was a God. But I'm gave a

much tranquillity. That if it do your voluntat. If you want

that me be welcome and if no, then I'm

I'm people who are not there have to be contemplar as in

light in my dormitory and the and the majority was radically

they're the radiographies of my pulmones before with the end of

the then there there was a very rapid yeah something

inexplicable for what is the science medical. Has, experimented situations ferventouset into this, or you know pertinces to her?

In the actuality? Actuality, I'm not I'm doing as spiritualist Trinitarian Mariano, but I'm specializing in the spiritism because I'm

to converge with many of the ideas that manage in this doctrine. How? What? Okay. They,

they're not more they're to a trinidad, a a knowledge,

could say that some some faculties can get to talk the fanatism. Okay.

But I had the intuition of that there was something more more than

a trinidad. There other masters ascendios. There other type of

knowledge that could help me to to form me in this way part of the decision that

that I did that I had made that I had the degree of faculty and I had been

had been the baccule of the that is the that is the you you are prepared to be

a guide to multitudes for you to be the head of a temple

in this then then then my partner also also

it's a faculty and I'm to make curations but

there many many controversies in the temple no

received at that so to many patients I had

at the night I would I was I

was I was there 50, 60% persons for day

the other facultes they see, so he's doing a lot, so

we're doing that he practica magic a black, this, my ex-pareja also, no,

well, he's, he's, he doesn't what, I know, I'm, no,

simply, me's just to get for the bond spiritual to give to what is the

voluntal, I'm I'm not, I'm, I'm, my guardians, in that

then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then,

then, he had a decision, they're humiliate in public, and they say, no, well, the brother practica magic

and then the pedestal that was doing the canalization, he said, in reality I'm saying, that they're

committing an error with this faculty, he said, little, I'm going to try to

another way, and you can't apply your dons spiritual. And I

let you say to you're going to have to have to cross. that in terms of other cosmovisions, we're talking of the karma. And so is when I'm going to another step during my

journey spiritual. And in that change, was when you entered to other type of situations with the spiritism? It's correct. I'm going to study to what is Alan Cardi, the spiritism that has in the religion Yoruba, Godombly. What would be the difference between one and other? The Alan

Cardick, nasio, yes, but mediante the method scientific. Okay. What is the spiritism in the thing? To what I was in that doctrine, there

different, it was, it was a cachita spiritual. It's like a cumul of information. So, the spiritism, that he started to instructing Alan Cardi,

that he started to study different like the information. Yes. And you're preparing for you canalize each one

of those caches spiritual. Okay. But, you know, so is to work with

those. Also, you can't topar with a lot of low density or of

the back astral. And you start to get a little bit a little also of leges hermetics,

where you're what is the mentalism, where you're what are the dualities in the spiritism, and the cadomblet, the difference is that they're

more what is your entom material for some type of ritual, to canalize, is a way a little, no

see the word correct or more respect, it's a little less evolutioned. And you

started to study all this? Aha. For I can continue helping

the people a experience that I had I as

a spiritist me man, I'm a family to do a consulta

and going to the house and I'm going to hear

tell my family that I'm sorry and I'm sure I'm sure it was the voice of

a woman and there was another other person that also me said I'm then I

go and let's let me look here here what I what I

do is a two people that were a one one

a woman and I gave part of the message

of the other person of the man, he he showed

that he said and said, Pidels his culpas he had much

problems with other with other people because he was a person important

was a owner of a company and I think they were on

other type of people his kids back to receive a

person and in the moment he's present them so you see physically those you're I'm gonna or a

sometimes they're to this my my and when when they're to take your your

there's a change that you get to know you get to I'm to I'm

to be a a new in a neblina and you and you start the the in that you get

that you get a totally dormit or you desprendies okay and someone

more is using your material or your body or mention desprentice is a

despondiment astral aha but yeah one of this then the

family started and not you know you could contact with the vis-a-oel

and the there there there that not is

this possible to contact with with your family. If you have 15 years, 20 years,

30 years, because also the spirit, still a cycle of reincarnation. And for that reason, you know, we're not going to be able. No, always. You've seen, you know, did some type of

change in you? Or so, that's that has potentialized, or something, that something has changed, that has presented, entities negative , something, something different? Yes, it's correct. When I was

the temple or a time of calm but it was a point in that I began to

perceive energies negative and I and I started with much angustia

and much and much a pesade like many they say for example the religion

Urb with that Mewarton. You you see like if

they're on your back and you start to feel continually constantly

can't get with the and you're you get

you see a something something you start to have

many and you get the time in the madrogate

oh you can concili the sun you You start

olores etstrains like olor suffre, apoloura and it when I started to another

way, I started to get to that direction. Someone that could instruct new

now. So when I'm when I started to see my don't to the

public one day me invite to a coffee that's that's

that's language to run coffee and I see they're imparting courses of Amia, tarot, spiritism, and I'm

and I'm going to form in that school, that's called the Black Hat Society. And I'm going to offer me my services to the public. And the changes that there were when I started to open me again, I'd feel me tranquill, I'd to to enter in

an equilibrium in my life. Like, that's normalized all,

like the world spiritual I wanted to I'm to be able to the

other when you were you and you're helping to

there there some that you you have considered that

you don't not I've had no, no, I

don't have been I couldn't I. I think no A case is impossible,

always that the Bruch or the Spiritist has total faith and certainty in the Deidate and in the brothers or the spirit with the world with that is

working. Okay. If you don't have that certainty and that faith, is when you start to find obstacles to help the people.

And there some case that you have said this was a quite difficult? I think the most complicated was the

little of the little that's it's it's a very very very

very because it's my good that's what you know

what's what's to do do a service but not

a change of your health what what was

when was in the temple to the other the

person was a person never that consisted in

to take the spirits that have the person at initial the curation. Well, I had a little of that the guide was explained that was a little bit of your body, a lot of your life,

of your vitality, every time that they're doing that. And in the spiritism is all the contrary. You're saying to not receive that year and maintain like a certain

equilibrium. Not all is black and not all is black. Certa duality. All both are the same. We're doing. We're at this.

We're not a sunbe. Sure. As we're a lot. When when you know, when you know

a other colleagues, a other people who are the same or that they're this type

of faculties for to help to help to the people, has encountered

someone that has been having been complicated? Yes. I'm

another one a known that, like, this, he was in the doctrine

spiritualist trinitarian Marianna, and also they were they were. Oh.

They they got from the temple. I got an experience very very similar

where she had to a entity to help to a person. So,

that's they're like they're like something. No in but

I think not all the people or the faculties have the potestat or the energy

to do that. Really, the theme there is like all a human has a there's an

invidias, there haveladurias is like if if there's if there's like to get a

person, it's, he's, it's, and it's, and it's, and it faculties that has eight years, obviously

there's a bit comments negative. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, problems of egos. What I always said, if I could, I'd give me my don't,

if I could, I'd give me to my friends, because a major light, more obscurity have in the back.

In actual you, you're some mancias? It's correct. This, uh, manniko the tarot.

what are the runas that pertains in the Panteon Vikingo. Also, actually, I'm doing services of cafe or manseo. Okay. And also, I do limpies, but, yeah, with other type, with other type of things, for help to help the people. Like, for example, could you ask us how

they're the lectures with runas sure that's for you can make a lecture

not just is go and buy the runas and study those runas and study no

if there there's a preparation but you have to submit to a ceremony

where you're where you know you've the the knowledge

of the runas that is like there there

there there there that was a sacrifice that had Odin to receive this, this, this, this is called, the deities Nordicase.

Yes, it's correct. A Odin. What is what he does Odin to receive this connoisse? So, it's a look at a head and is in a state of sacrifice,

and in that moment enter in a state of a trance where you start to receive to what are the runa's. And how is represented in the ceremony? You're

a vestige with a cordon rojo and you're inked but with the

spadda recta like a sacrifice for your to to be that

that this is with a calis consagr where

vire they they're they're and and that that

calis has your and you and you know you get that connection with

the runes or is a ritual complete mm-hmm interesting I've never I've

heard that what is what is what is the runes are more tachants are more

firmes a comparison of a consult in tarot and the tarot is more

chismos to you make more perspectives of the person as

method addivinatory and evolutionary and evolutive is more detailed exactly okay

a me I'm much to manage more the tarot as a method I think that the tarot, you must more a tendency

than your destiny, if not where the libidlidlid the real of the person. The runas if you serve as a method adivinatorio, but for example, you can ask,

that person will be my novia. Simply will say, no. Because no does nothing, not. No, you have said your sentiments, I mean.

Ah, okay. More firm? More firm. And, and of what form it, do you know, we know,

we know, because a much those have seen, they're in those images that are practically very representativeness.

It's very intuitive, in few words, but the runa's in what you get to interpreter? Every

every single, for example, the runa yera jera jera is the runa of the cosecha the runa that represents

the cycles that has the plantar the that pass certain stations for you have a cossache

you have to you have to do a connection with the connections with the the next runas and do

a storytelling in basis of the significance, for that you can't have that fear on that. And more apart, what is what is what I'm a certain experience

of the spiritism, I'm here my guides, or the ancestors of the person that I'm to consultar, and me are

giving certain information, and then I'm combining with the information that they're going to

give them through that simology. And it's more precise. Could you show some of

your runas? Yeah, me, I mean, it's a lot of the manseas. There are

different types. You've been that anteriorly Victoria us mostro the ball of crystal.

Here we're going to show, Alejandro, some of those of those runas

that we're here in the part tracerer. That's interesting. These runas, this

is called Hagalaz. It's like The Torre of Tarot. Chambious, changes invinentions, changes brusque, that will get to your

life, that can cause certain dolor. Okay. This is Dagas. Dagas signifies the way you need to

find the light, the felicity. Ah, okay. And in that no, I include a facet of obscurity to

get to the light. Um. This is Uruus, the runa of the vitality, of the Voluntat. This is

Gungio, is a runa that about about the Felicity. Engus, in an explanation a little more burd, is it's, it's, it's, out of what are the same,

to predict what is, how is consolidate some type of relation. How can these runes? No is recommendable that you go and you're going

and you're you have to tallyar. You last you have to designer. And, yeah, there is something called Galdicus,

where you have to can't be the name of each one of the runa doing a ceremony

to activate one-a-one. That's if is not, I will do not to share. Sure.

Where congey in that you have to put a little to make a one. So,

all those that you have a little liquid rogo? It's correct. It's

like sacrifice for you to put it to to put it to put to activate it's a quite complicated

it's very different to the question of any other manse and when does the lectures

what is what is it is it's what it's it's it's many, it can't

various that is what I do I'm I'm I'm so I'm so that

can't show the future a through the runas. A a case that I've

was that a person that's in coma and the family was this

bad and me ask you can you can you can tell us how

it's that the medical are that they that no

there no there no runas, effectively I said that the person yeah not was, this in a plan

physical, yeah was in the plan spiritual, but that there was a better a but after that mejoria, and there were to see a recalida, he was to go to work, and

to get along. And so it was, but a change of an intervention divine, I had to do a pediment, or

one of the deities with I've I've I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm a part of other pantheon I'm going to I'm going to I'm a question I'm a pediment and the person

I'm in a kind of when the person that's It's the Pantion Griego. Ah, okay. It's the that I persephone for that he

to make a castle and she casse with Ades. So, he saw a woman and a anciana? It was, you're going to be good? You're going to

you're going to but I'll pay. She says that, she, she remember that this anciana had accompanied by various perros and one of those

the perrots had been to infernal, like a camp, like a, for that she could get to get her before she

recuperate, comment that the person was and then and if he did get recuperate? Yes.

We know that there people who are people who are to doggers to do you

do you do do you do do? No. When I received my consagrations

for as spiritualist, Trinitarian, no. I did a jurament where where never ever used to my don't

to affect a person or affect the liberal of the person. I know the the sender of the hand left,

but the senderer that I managed is the of the right, the of the light. Okay.

The fact, me they've been to talk about the seconder of

the seconder of the same or less or me. The The sendero of the man

and the other try to get to get to the dark of the

and they get to their right so so so so

so how would the sender of the right there there

there a little on the the of the and

always always very in the according to what are

the legal of the people because it that

that every spirit, has to transit certain some proofs to get a evolution

spiritual. We don't we can intervene if we get to mermer that the way. The only

that we can do is quit a job, but for a third do, do a

sanation for that the person has a certain faith in something but not do that

obviously as a person of the same thing we have to know what is the

obscurity to be that is a obscurity so it is even when a brouca

learn because brujeria has to learn magic black and

magic black for to know to or quite

yeah is is is it's is a the sender of the

hand right there's there's a there's a lot of a man right is

that we have been we're a certain disapue to material okay you'll

you'll be a person more disapegated to the thing more connected to the more

tranquillity that no had, you start, you start you start to irradiate of that

light, I feel that the the sender of the hand of the right of

what is the materialism in, in a a way a little more egoistic

for the people, no, in something that's the thing, the

is the money, the that is the time, the love, the world,

the the people and the light is all the contrary. So, you know,

it's the liberality of thealdry. So, we're going to say that the side of

the right would be a burghry like to they're like that things like?

Yeah, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've got to ask you don't know, no,

you're not to do the other ways. I'm they're asking, is that if you could do a man, Marre, for a certain person I, that

not would be better to how to attract the person correct for you? Sure. What is what you do you have to do? To have more confidence in you and to be able to do what you want, without affect to the other?

It's the sender of the right. Like, a little more reasonable. Exactly. to what are the use of the manseas one one has to have certain intuition is correct to for able to manage them

which is the most that is the most complicated that is the most complicated that's been to be with this intuition I think the most complicated has been with the ronas because are symbols more abstracts and require an study more complex

in change the tarot Yes, there's much symbology, but it's very visual. It's more, you can't transmit the message to the other. And Noconngevah a ceremony for you can't consangar with the bantion binkinko to receive the information, no? That's the most complicated.

It's the most complicated. When you're in the use of the runa's, also you have to call the entities. Yes, but in this case, the only the change is that I'm the divinities and I give a permission to the gods Aisiris and vanirs for that me reveling the mysteries

at the time. And what I do with the tarot is to give permission to your ancestors and to your guides spiritual for that they're manifest in through the cards and can have a lecture

more certterer. Okay. So, are two are two vertients totally different talking of the world

spiritual. One is I'm a job with divinities and the other with the world

spiritual. Before before to start, do you you know, you can't

do you? Sure that's. Yeah? A see. I mean. I'm

permission to the gods to say Sirs and I know, for that me revels

those mysteries to the runas. And that the message that

has been always the the light of the truth and that's

and that what I'm going to question? Projects Laboral what

what is saying here me is the the rune the runa

of Oswilo Ansus Uruus Gebo and Berkanna inverted with who

nas to up me is saying that you have

many intentions to to take this project to get this project but as Gebo is almost

the inverted me about that if you want to do to bring more prosperity

or more money to you you have to start to find alliances

with other people and that you will get to

you require that at the run that that

the success and the victory You have to to start to start alliances with

with your environment or a cooperation to help to help to help your

projects professional that is what you need to that's what you refer to

thatjant that not not so much detail but is concis is correct

Well, it's a interesting the form of the lecture. I'm going to be sincere in some

I saw I think my mother had my some of the never I'm that's using. I'm going to

they're going to the process. What is what is what is for things very specific

in what cases I use? When they're when they're a person with a

problem of magic then many times the work is available and the runas are

more certain and the certain things are more certaines. Of course to the person is if the other

or the tarot or another type of manseer. So, not for all of us not for

all those people are the cases different of what are made are

are made are are some some some are some

It's a very difficult to create in a runa. Because it's tallarles. Tallarles, pintarles, consangarralas to put them to start. Each one has an energy.

You, you have some a dot of medium-ovnid? Yes. Yes. It has succeeded that if they're,

they're, they're asking to you for that you give a message, can be a sometimes messages doloros.

The case that I have is of a patient that I'm and I'm

doing the and I start to see a his papa and I say I'm

my my father has a little I don't

you don't you that the problem legal that

you have because they're in in the properties. So, how

you know, and that no me the tarot? And also you know questions of events

permunitorious that you get to see this? Yes. One, I've got two things

that if were very impacted. I'm in the preparatory. I had a

amina a time, we were working in the people,

roso his hands and I see how his father

and his mom said he mentioned something he said no how you

you're you're the same the same the second and he no he

he said I didn't talk I think I think

many many many people are going to go to your

way to to what you or to know to

is something with what you learn to live. For that's that's the work of the hecher and the spiritism is very

solitary. When you're with your colleagues, that I know that I'm took to visit

for there a coffee, how's called the coffee? Salen Wichter and Coff Ah, so that we did we're

a pretty pretty a coffee dedicated to the esoterism with a themeatic of brewery

there, there, symbology, there of all. them, they're lectures, they're also

sessions spiritists? Yes, there's the service of spiritism, there's the service of

limpias. All right. What is Salem? Salem, is a cafeteria based on what

is the Bruchas Salem, but the fundator opened an school that's

called Black Hat Society where imparted different ensanances of spiritism, Brugaria

bird magic roja roha. You're the tarot, the runes. Obviously, they're teaching the basic. It depends on the thing. Yeah, but it's a

thing impressionate. I mean, I kept surprised to be to people who are people doing their lectures of cards, of tarot, some of them, take some coffee, or it was a very, very comoda. Well, for me, comod

and interesting. That we took to say to know about us. Well, my you thank you much for acceder

to talk to me is very important the practice over these situations because I also I'm

much time involved with what esoteric not of direct but but I desperto

a great interest in me and also my interest to see how how they

manage how they I'm thank much for to take

the time to come to come in here, for to make a a muster of what you realize you.

And I'm going to be able to talk to be a pleasure. Yes. Thanks for the invitation. Your name?

Alejandro Rojas. And where you can find? You can find me in Instagram, this, I'meljaro

jahem. And YouTube. Well, there no, they don't see all the socials of Alexander.

Much great. Thanks, and you you're Thank you, Thank you, thank you.

Thank you. So, the final of this Capitulo of with Jesus of Nazareth. Not so you

per in the next chapter of the Marches. We'll see. Until the next.