Más allá del miedo Podcast - 46 | DEMONIOS se burlaban de todos en la IGLESIA...Lo Más ATERRADOR QUE HEMOS VIVIDO

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

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And then, I said, I'm paro in the camera, prendo the and the and the little and the point about, me appuntable

to the corner of the so, I'm saying, I'm, so I'm, there, no,

no, no, in the corner, I was, I, I'm put so, that's

what, what's the thing, I'm just, I'm a lot, it's just that in the

morning, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm

and I'm talking to, my mom, my mom, his I'm a what you Cretes?

They're demons They're seven demons Dementies So manches So So I'm

So I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm reojo to the room And I I'm

I'm I'm Hey Hey Hey But when I I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna

I'm I'm I'm I'm to pray To give you To me That

you know Now if someone 's remember of God when when they pass things like the

of Christ's the power and the fortalece me help me keep me of the immondice

of me to be I feel I'm feeling but she went to the

back to go to the camera to cross the river no and in what I was taking

the second the second calcedin so I'm to hear a but that

type of a type of like when classic a bruce like she's that is

No, I put to grab those tennis My primo and we're going to be my Primo and we're just going to be Correle And we're going to We've got to get And we've been to get us And we're almost and almost

I'd say that's all right I'm trying to get us to start We're not too I'm going to get into About a minute And so much And after there They've got to

To hear the carcashas Saludos and well Amantes of the Disconnosed A New Capitual The MED With Jesus Jesus of Nazareth

Martini In this occasion Thank you, dear Thank you, my good, good. Very good, we're going to put a little bit. We're going to put a little bit of the experiences and my life and to be what on. You're just for the terror. More than that. I'm. It's, I'm a lot. I'm not. You're you think that the things are

so I think that's known in this life and it's incite the truth things that

we're that's we're not exactly in a occasion has passed for a

situation supernatural has known some have known some some

testimonies of this type well in the personal has been

a little vago and if have passed two

three things to all the inexplicable. Okay. Of these things that have passed, there's

something that you have marked, or if you make a lot of difficult to believe, that have been to with these things?

Well, yes, I have more than an endotha. How is what you have to be there to tell?

Well, I can't tell from, I'm, I'm going to tell us my my youthuda,

as I'm going to see going to go, okay, and data when I

when I 16 years more or less well I've been very very bad

from the right from right to be hyperactive yeah yeah yeah

I was to say that you could say in my house me took like a

question they were like you were like in the car and I didn't

advise and so so my my dad and my mom decided

to mandarm to a an hegido that's in the south of Sonora

is a so I'm a peggatito in the hindoah but that he was a man who's

that he's the case that's religious but really very fanatic to the degree

that he not didn't television or nothing because like satanis much the

the thing that that was that was that was that was that one corpia

that one corompia to one as a person well No, well, I'm I'm like the

where I'm a maximum of the people who no see I'm doing much a lot of a bit of

Yeah, and he was to the carretera the principal that was of Culeacra and Nogales

was before to go to Newhoa like in the kilometer 91 is the

entry you're you're like some about seven eight

four into and no really zero lumbrado in the night it's curacy

a tempranon to see that those are so that's that's really very, very beautiful because no there's

no, no, civilization so, then so, part of my castigue thought that

that was that was that was that was that was I'm very very aborried but

in all there's there no and I know and I said

my kids and and result that a day he I was, I was,

I was coming to the house because I had a tele, putt, I was going to see the TV. I was going to

be the TV. I was talking to be like a light, but there was there's a light of the so I was

coming and innocentiment no, since, never has been very meoso, the really.

And I went to a, a rory and when when I hear the first pass, the

first pass, the rory, I was to know that, they've goth an an arbor, like,

like, a little about my time, like a about a about a and they're

like they're and they're so, so, so, that's, so, and I

get so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm going to, I'm, no, but I'm not for the

obscuridate, no, but I think a positive, no, a libe, or an animal of,

the camp, the camp, and, we're going I'm going to We're going We're talking that the

casas Well, so on Terranes So, what I'd say, every

house had a separation like about some no, on the

terrain grandes. And I go, I go walking, I'm going,

the house I was about, I went to no, I'm going to get to the television,

and I go to , you went, hey, see what, I was that I went to the arroojo this, so, so, so, and they're to start

to be, and so, why they're why they're why they're why they're no, but it's, you know,

I'm saying, me did you know, I'm going, no, but there's that I'm, there's

there's a thing, and it's the only passah that there's there's just they're, I'm,

I don't think I'll say, no, no, but I'm there's, there's, there was,

there, there was there there, there was, orcado that a woman

who killed to his his people he was a person

a soldier of the and I know about about and I

said I said I said me was well I'm well

then it got to to reess me and then

there I'm the really so I'm so I'm

so I'm when I when I get I'm at the you know, you know, you know,

you, you know, I'm saying, and the mind it's, it's, you know,

and then, you know, and I do count that, cruso the rio, no, I'm,

I'm, the, the alibi, the, no. In that, I'm, I'm,

I'm, like, I'm, two, 20 meters, one, one, one,

one, a, one, a, one, a, a list, So, I pass it from a lateral.

In that, me hauled the, the plierra. So, yeah, no, well, so now, so,

I'm, I'm going to, I'm going, I'm going to the house of the this of my dad.

The fact, not salient a month. The, that's a really, I said, no,

the fact, yeah, I'm, the, I'm, so, yeah, I'm,

don't think, you're so No, I think, because it was so real the halorn that I sent me of the plieria. So, so. And in the nabye. Yeah, in the nada. And, anteriorly, the arbustra, independently of what I had been told. That I, then I said, well, then, then, I put it to think, well,

well, putt, well, a, how much? So, I'm going to getarbuttso, so, so forth, po. Yeah. Or a lot. And, the fact, yeah. It's a good. Yeah, so I'm a good. That's, it was.

That's, like, my first experience, that did. What? What? So, I did something Is it a little bit of a adolescent? Yes, adolescent. So,

are situations that's aterradoras for someone that never has been for a situation paranormal.

Yes. Ase one moment me comment about that you had you had been an

experience that has to be with a dream? If the experience of the

dream is, it's remont much after I'm at my house

and I I found out that I had my my son, my little bit of 10 years, we're talking that's a baby,

I'm a two years, two years, because I didn't talk about very well. In that I remember that

was, I was , I was caught, I, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm going, I'm going, I'm able to

get, dormido, and I don't know I remember, but in that occasion, precisely, I've a dream

and I I just I'm just I'm going to you know I'm going to you're going to you're going to

yeah and it's what I'm really that's because the fact literally they're saying

that all the time we know but we're not we're we're and of that's

I'm very present and it was that I'm thinking I'm in my pap were in

the life and all the Christiana I'm I'm I'm to know

that when we we're in English doing like can't and all that roll and there's seven

demonies. Yeah, seven demons to the church. How? So, they got to, seven demons

separated at the at the church, and at the pure entry, and you had to know,

to get to enter to the church, uh, they'd to come and have to

know that in my so, the, the brothers of there those are repeliening

with orations and all all of all this, but when the demons

that the demonies they were they're they were they're they're still they're they're in

potestat for, because they were in communion with God. And they were all of

they're they're they're to all and they're the demonos to the hellasia

because I said it like they're like they're not they're not used for God so

so so like all so they're getting and so they're they're

there in what I can't to recall the I'm a disaster in the in the I'm

in a get a I'm scared I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm and the

it's a it was a I'm going to get a was a man my new my

my new starts to console or not what you're I'm I'm I'm gonna

doormete doormate and in that in this no me I'm saying there's

the light up and all the and I just I was I was to start the

dream and I'm I'm I'm in the camera I'm and I'm up put up

to the corner to the room and I see that there's there

I'm there there's oh I'm I'm go I'm

I'm go I'm don't know and I'm and the he's he gets to

the camera and he starts so much so much a lot so so that

no no I don't I don't I don't And he let's No, wait a Wait, don't

There's nothing And I said And the other In the corner of the Carta, in the In the corner There's There's a little

There's There, I'm And then I'm Pus the Pell Chinita No? So, I'm Pell'clock?

What's the How many? Your My name? Your Two years? Two years. Oh.

You didn't Well, you Identificable Some of Some of the Yeah, he He looked at me and I

talked about to move tantito and he he had trinked of the of the

abanas for the so I'm so I'm am surprised he he went to

his mom and I gotro the I got the the I'm the

and in this time I live in a house and my papas and I go the

and I'm he my mom he said oh yeah he's he's he's

he's like he's he's like I know I'm I'm just me can't

get here with you you. I go to the fourth, no? I'm going to go to the fictively to

see the end up at the corner and I'm not I'm not my wife in the mom of the

then I'm at and I go and I'll say I'm well I'm like I'm in communion with God

to say to be a oh no is Catholic Christian is Christian Christian yes

do you do a do you do you do you put in a organ and we

do we're we're we're night. The curious, there's

about the about the about this. How so it's connected to all. The

curious that in the morning I'm I'm in the house, no,

in my house, I'm, I'm, I'm, my mom, his suhue,

the what you think? They're demons. They're seven demons.

No, man, man, they're seven demon, not the same,

the same, the, but it were the seven demons. and I I'm

I'm going to I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry with some demonia so the manche I'm sorry

yeah yeah the real I mean to what I what I I thought I said

I said in that I'm sorry something something something was going to my house

and they're they're they're they're they're something something

a little a a mal passed for to your new no,

after that's no. Only he he was, and then he was so I mean some

some demon or some spirit was going by nocturno. Yes, for your

house. See, that for there we're we're here including to Kandy

to a friend of of the city of Mexico that's that's a

idea precisely to entities demoniacas who what happened that's

because of the people they'd learn to all these entities.

But here the situation of this little was that demonios that presumptoment

the name said that these demons got to the people they were

a thing very exaggerated a something a thing a very but

they can see they're those these things. They're saying

that they're that they're that they're like in the tap that they're that's

that's that's exactly exactly exactly me said you're you're to do you

christianos yes when I was more young for part of my abel okay and there

as there there also there there too there also groups of groups of

so yeah yeah yeah yeah you have this type of

groups with more people of people yeah, you know,

to do you know, some, uh, experience? Well, in that

in that yeah, no. But, the remonted a little back, the more

young, that we were to do it was a bad, so, my

dad and my mom me made to do a little, uh, but that

they're made, the net me made with a man and the ,

you know, I thought, you you were to go, you're a other other

other place, no, we're not, we I'm Ganta the motor.

I'm to go right, I'm always, I'm down to know,

and I know that's to be to be a little they're no, well,

there's an as a carmots there, there, there, a

alberka, blah, blah, okay. Simon, I said, me said, they're,

they're we're going to be to be to do, oh, well, do,

and then, and I'm and we got to, we're we're

we're We, we're up to the Camion. We were, we're going to getcha in the Cajain the head and they said, all the people go to getcha in the

Cajun, I said, Caird, I'm going to go back from here to get to my, that's the hell, you know, that we're going to

get to the place, no, but we're to try to the carcher the Caj the Caj the head.

No, no, no, they'd be, to be, to where, where they were to be there,

where they'd get- vand-o, and we've we've, we're, we're, the,

uh, the other of Kulekhan and we're at curious, no, because we're

and in calente gritted, you know, suelten the perro! the people,

the people, so the kind of did it or so, but it was the rory of

because yeah, yeah, for the to be to work to one, no,

no, and, no, metans in here, no, metons in a quartito,

a quartito, a quartito, a sort of, some, some, it's, about,

10 for, for 20, a messes, a line of a mess. A pen, a piece of

paper, a piece of paper. Well, now, now, that's what I'm that this, that's the

thing, yeah, that's, now, now they're, and that's, and that's, and I,

oh, I'm, where I'm, where, yeah, where, so, no,

so, so, I'm, so, so, I'm, so, I'm,

so, and that's, and, that's, and, no, , and,

, Pura, pura fichita, no, I said, wait, no, I'm so I'm so,

I'm sorry, I'm not we're going to we're going to see, I'm going to continue instructions no,

I'm going to another, but I'm mornro. So, see, instructions, and just

just putting all the problem mental that we had to be in the paper. We've been writing

all the night and all the day. Nothing more. Pure water without to eat and to

know that in this Retiro spiritual we said that there were a moment that we

said because they were padrinos that we don't go out of the

arboles that because in the night we we'd be those times there's

there's the people was that was that the there there

there there's there just that not no more not no

they they're they all well And the, the, the, the, that they'd

they'd be there'd be a bad the batting, the batto, the batto did his urations and

all in Latin. The batto like, so, he's, I mean, the shoolea, machin,

then, so that really, but not to be long, that's the part of, so,

so, so, so, he's, so, so, so, so,

I, so, so, so, see the next the next then

I know a chica I'm know that I'm doing that I'm doing but the she was

to be a first time to the first thing I was yeah I'm talking about and all

the man the man was the she was he had attempted to get the life

like three times had all the all the mohack yeah all right

and I'm and I'm well let's let's chat with her to be what on

that we can't we can't we can And one day, I think it was the penultimate day, before it was, we went to the penultimate, we did a circle.

I think a foggat in the middle, and we were like a lot of, no. And resulta of that, the other person that was, I think that was about, I think that was about a few hundred people, there was a lot, between a Poyle and first time, and Padre and not.

Like, some, seven, seven people me were in the circle. When the

morrow started to talk, he was to be to be able to do you? I,

with the yeah, with the she was coming. She was like, like, the voice,

like, the voice, so, so, I was, and I tell the the word.

I said, I'm, man, I said, I'm, man, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, no, no, no, no,

When I saw, see that the morrow started to manoteer and to say barbarities for here and by the way, it's very very, very, very, very, very overactual, so, like, so, like, if he's, they're muching ghanita, no? In that'sue, this

he'd say, that was, of Bayerta. And this, I'd try a medallon, something that's a medallon, something that's a little. And he begins to grab the head, and the mother, so, so, so, so, so, It's retortica the morra and the voice

big engrossed, and she returcid. And he started, he started to learn in Latin. No, you're going to create. The morr

she, so, like, like, he was going to get it, but the medallion that he used

for the for the oration, so doble. Oh, no manches. We're talking of something of metal, It's double.

It was there when I I was there and I said I said it was real but I

know I no, I don't I don't even though because he always he's always

he's always was very great? Yeah, yeah so I'm about this

time more than a little a little more than the money of the money of

and and never they never knew what was supposedly supposedly for what she I don't know if

for what she had attracted or for some spirit that had kept there because argument another person that was

he was that he felt like if he wanted to but not, no, no

he was she was the more vulnerable in that in that moment that was what was what he did he

for that she was she had decided she she with with

with with so to runcars the very Oh, quite

Firted Firted that I'm that I'm that I'm a lot of a retiro,

I'm imagine about like a return of a group juvenile. But I think you

are you are the retires that in the asiena that are for people

that are people who consume in certain of problem that that alcoholism

some some Yes, that's the word. Neurotics. I tell you know, because also me

took to go to go to one of these retives precisely for neurotic and then and well,

it's also for invitation of some people. Some experiences are quite very very

and I think that they are the manhows that are the alcoholics and do the 12

passes. Exactly. So, it's is a certain, you're certain,

all the night you're just they're in the day of your parents etc etc I'm saying

like a more adult exactly so you're so you're so that's everything but also

they're doing things too much in your case you know in your case you took to presential

a a position a position a much really so so so then

then then after after all this no no to this muchach

The other no. Because now I've done those times yeah. Also

me you know you're talking about an experience in a in a carreterer Ah,

yeah what I did you know I was to know, I'm gonna I'm gonna

yeah, the bikers Yeah, yeah, and I'd know, we'd be to go back

to be to be to be I'm never always I've been back

and yeah and in Tijuana. We came to I, I,

I, and I, and I'm two, two comrades. And I know that we're in

in Tijuana, and to go to we're in what is the cost. Uh-huh. The Mexicali

we got us by the Gulf of Santa Clara, all what is the costa.

And you have to come and the motos we're in ching I, I remember.

We've facilito, like 120, 130, for what is the

Santa Clara and it's dark. It was dark and it was my compa in front of the capital

in that then this was the official and I was to be at back back and then we we're going to

we're going to get to get us in peñasco so I'm talking that was with the pandemic

in that then then and there we're and there we're and something and something

and something is that a car we started from

we're from the Gulf of Santa Clara and we know to get to Puyasco

and you see that's I'm paniqueed by the vigilance that we

did not and I came a little stressed because those those

these people they were they're machina experience and I'm

and I have done a motor but but not so not so And so, I mean a little

nervioos. And there were, no, no floghap, no? I don't know. I'd try a motto, one three-hundred. I don't know,

what is the defenses, the firing, for the, for the viento and all, and, and,

so, to be a comod, no. And, no, then, you top of a carretera

that, that's a area, and you'd to get to get to the water to the

water, and put a truncher, because in the motor, if you agarves a tantito, you... You're rhaps. And there, we're going, no? We're going, and we're

and we're, and I'm, and I'm going to... I'm going to, I'm going to get to Peanask, I... I'd be very relaxed, I'd went to listen music, of course. Well, yeah, for then, I'd be relaxed a little, and I've been listening music.

In that, I'm... I feel... I feel that I'm... Mm-hmm. Me brinked something, in what is the part of here, of the... ...the-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-pirena... and I'm to

and I I'm an anoteer and I'm gonna and I'm gonna and I'm gonna and I'm gonna my my

in that in that me I'm my so so I'm so I'm gonna

and I'm my armchina the ballant and and I said no my pedo and I just and I just I just got it

and me came and I'm getting quaint in that same that's a little

a serpient but I'm going to a 120 minimum I'm doing the I'm in front I'm

Was it A moto of A moto of A choper A choper A choper For that me brink

So, that's a velocity or if me vending to be in front Peked

with my defense and it's mad At the in when when passed

he was me sold At the couple of about the three kilometers we're we're trying

with a trailer a trailer a little a little we're olded we're doing we're to see what to auxiliar

no and I did that no no no no no

no no no no there was was was he was

was met in the carterer or is of two or something or something

I was something that was a trucha or

who it would. But the really, I almost I'm quite I'm yeah, I'm, because if you can't see, yeah. So, so, it's, so, it's, she me controlled the motor, well, for

to start, getting to me toumbar that, that no, I knew what was up, that was very tenorosa. What is, what is, what is, the Corpena, Plainsco, a big, pretty gross. And, and when

they got on auxiliary, the trailer? No, well, I, no, because, yeah, no nobody. But, but, was, also also in, in, it's

a so, if you know you know you're to put to be used to start

you're in day? No, it's but the night. The night. Inoche

the night, like the 10, 11 at night. Oh, is that is that cabrone

to to go, and they're old, but yeah. You're the loquere there,

and they he's and they're to go to go to we're, we're,

we we're just to, no, the because it was the pandemic. And precisely

Peanasko that nobody had, that was not from that was to go to get to get us to get us

to go to go to go to and go to and we said as we come we got to me got to my gasoline

I don't know, what people would be but it was me to be the gasoline like a

about about a way of the world in a little people like a bit bit a hivot

a-o-o- and I'm to come a-a-madur a madruada Like at 3 in the morning, to talk about until one of me

said, oh, I don't know, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm just about the car, I'm, I think I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm a little, a pookite

that I'm gonna know, no, I'm a lot of, you know, so I'm, so I'm, and I'm,

and I'm, call it, and I'm, and I'm, because no they're to get to get to

to the yeah, for the for the gasolineer? Yes. Well, well,

it's a quite, I don't think that has been a animal, eh? Well,

is that velocity. Yeah, the same that I don't think I don't know. So,

I don't much. Well, if you have been been started before

there still there still but, yeah, quite, quite quite very,

when you have been on the motor, no, not you have yet to

do you never to see a an things like that's so. Well, fiftakeet that, like, like, I'm always I'm in the...

Uh-huh. That's what, like, the most in the wayne-explicated that had happened. But you're going to, for example, that one, one, one has been told that one was, that

was, they went to a Durango, for the, and, precisely for the pista, for the via, for the Libre, for the 666,

and that you've seen a woman there, well, I mean, there's many rinscherias, it could be it has been a woman

of a loquita that's I don't know, but if I'm going to be on the night in carterra

if you're things. Fiviette that I have friends who are bikers and between

those one that is this Charles that I send him a photo that's interesting

fiatate that always he's always he's he's he's she

like he the mochila and in a recorried a very curious,

has to make that they go like for a curbita no

not very this serrata but go for a curvita and they go and

they're doing video they're doing they're not I can

I'm I'm I'm what I have seen that the case

is that I'm a photo of when her she

is a car to grab the bikers that go

on a one around so so so see that

it's going to like a woman I think was a woman or no

I remember who I'm a man was a man not a normal but result is

that when compared the videos with the those those were

those those she never never never never compared

in the video at the same time and oh the

woman that was here the there no there's nothing and they're

and it was no that's it I think it was yeah it's tardied yeah

tardidid so and they and they're so also also a sometimes

sometimes they're that they're that's especially in the carterteras that's something

is something very common very very common that I'm I'm a man

a man's I'm you experience with a a more a

not you not you don't you do you say it's up that's up you're a new

oh it's a suburb yeah a yeah yeah it's that's

that's yeah yeah a one yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah well yeah well I mean I'm I'm I'm

I'm that that that yeah that I'm yeah

I'm I'm so I'm so 20 years of the 20

for the way and I know I've got to I'm going to I'm going to

tell you know were going to when when I'm analyzing similand the

the I'm doing I'm well what the what you don't

you can't you can't you don't you can't even you know I'm

you know I'm I'm I'm I was that I felt like that

me But, no Passa'i, me passa, me It was very, very, So I said, well, why are you I'm going to be, I was going to be I was going to investigate a little, and I, no, I was, I'm going to say,

I was going to be the paralysis of the dream, that's why it, C, et cetera, for canc, et cetera. Well, I was, I'm going to assimilarsed to say, ah, well, so, well, it's a problem, I'm going to be, I'm trying, when I was, then, so, I'm trying to

three jobs. Something, yeah, three three, I'm tired, yeah, I'm a bad, my ped, Yeah, me passable and I I feltia that I could

move to see the so I'm there's a peter, and I'm relaxable and I'm

and I'm there's never, no, no I don't see to know of he's passing,

it's going to pass and it was going to be so so it's so I'm going to go to

I'm going to work to Canada yeah and that and that I'm up the

dead standing yeah if I'm me so on the Mewarto. But this this time

was very different to I don't say, I could say more than 50 times that

me had been in what was the difference? In what was the difference? In that

there was there's there's other other not you don't know

I'm heard of the question I'm I'm I'm but I'm

yeah but in this occasion so you grittas really Yes, yes.

You know, I'd see a room in, for sharing to share the cost, no. I mean, the young living with me, no more. And,

well, I was, I was going to get in the job, all the time, I was always a day,

and I was not really, no, no, I'm trying to tryid can't be, and stress,

it could say that is it, but can't be, but cansanio, no. And result that,

I feel a person that's the way empucked in the picture so machin a little

different to the other in this I'm sort of the eyes

I'm a smear a never I've never seen never I'm

never a one a sombra I'm the sunbara in the form of

demonia oh no no no no eyes bright no no pure sombra

here so in your Like, So, like, so, I'm

like, I'm going to get to, I'm sure a lot of I said, but I'm doing, I'm,

I'm, I'm, my mind, I said, you know, you're, I'm trying to,

I'm trying to I'm, I'm trying to, I'm, I'm, go, I'm, I'm,

and I'm, see, the eyes, those, I'm, I'm, I'm, two seconds,

to, and, there's, there's, there still, there still, there's

still, Well, I said Earlierment When I'm I'm going to move a Mewinke I'm going to move A bit

Poon, yeah I'm I'm able to move I'm I'm I'm going to I'm

I'm I'm going to get that MED Because it I'm going to get to Because it

was very very distinct to the other other other places And there I was and I'm

and I And I And I And I I said a A pressure here in the Pachususus.

So what I do what I do. So, I try to go to work, because I can't go to look at the room. And I'm going to get a real-ojo. And I'm going to be a bitar me. Hey, I, eh, eh. But when I said I was a voice,

cuted up, and I'll get to go and I don't, no, no, I can't move me, and nothing. And I'm going to pray to God. I'll pray to God, no, now if you know, if you know, so one's so when You know, and I'm going to say.

And I'm going to prays, the soul of Christ, you know, and fortalece me, help me, quit me all the immondice of, of me.

And there's it. I mean, more no, it's just you. Then, so, so, it's a,

to pass all the mind, no? My, my, and that's what me, me,

me, me, my, when I'm, when I'm when I'm, when I'm, my if it's aparce.

So, you see, I always saw, and I've seen clearly how it's on the same of me, and he made up to the camera.

No, I'm doing. No, well, who? No, couldn't do not to be in three

days. And the day the day I said, I said, because the man said, I said,

I said, me said, you're not, you know, did you, did you, I, did you,

because, you, because not you know, I did you, I've been an experience very, inexplicable,

I did. Yeah, very weird. And this is the is the, how was it? How you saw, how you saw the car? Well, I saw a silhouette, how do you say, it was a, a sombra a black, but in the same, how do you say, you've, you've seen, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know to tell you to say,

never, but the car, you could be? No, no, it was a car, it was a silhouette, so, and just, and, like, kind of, kind of, me, piqued. Ah, so, yeah, so, how, how, the contour? Yes, like a contorno? Well, so it's just it was a very.

And she never saw that's, she never saw when I said when you, when you said the yeah, she said,

it's a great. Like you said, asocian the paralysis of the problem of cancer,

stress, even problems psychiatric or psychological, but, but, but,

but, but, you see something so so, you know, you are you know, you're just in another

level. I mean, we're simply of a question of a question of a canceo.

So, so is something a few. Our friend the lobo is your parent.

Yes, Primo. Your Primo. My mom. Me, you said, you know,

you have some experiences to complementar of the that he told,

or something or something was said? It was this. He

had been this. It was that. that I think she's a Kandhi, no Jesus

yeah, well, it's a pretty quite, quite when one about the

situations paranormal is, it's to be a one a class of the

situations to the mind, ovnis, phantasm demons, demonios, of all

these things for you think you think that you think is the most

aterr that one can't I think the demons those

demons Yes, those demons. You're going to make my experience. And I think they're what they can do more damage. And you're assisting to groups of Christian, never you took over that attender to a person that would have been demoniac. You'll tell because of all the people

that have said that have listened to church, for the most one, pardon, for the most, this, of five, one, not more no more no more

me say that never he's, all the other me say,

I don't for what reason, but, and so in the adolescence, that's

that they see a person a person posseida. So in some moment,

this, you've seen, this group of those groups, but the real,

to be to be to be no. In my time, never never

knew of something, that more is the experience of the retiro. The of the retiro?

Yeah. But was isolated of the church. But if I kept impacted when

he was the medallel Yeah, that's it was quite pretty. Of the

experiences that we talked to your Primo Lobo us he said

that the experiences that he told were they

were of a ranch or a rancherer a yeah yeah

Yes, yes. In that you You've stood present also? Yes, is that this Primo lives in a Rancher that's

called the Mawasima that's like, I know, some 10, 15 minutes of Kuliacand.

Uh-huh. The ranchery where he lives being standing on the other side of the river of my

colony. Ah, okay. Caccy, and the really, and the really,

so, so, so, so, so, pass, things, things

sometimes sometimes, yeah. I've a anecdote, of when were

a a more more a man, yeah, to do you

know, I'll go back to recal us and I have been back on a lot

that I'm like, I'm about, and I was doing yeah, yeah,

seven years, and I said, I mean, a me, that's that we're to go to

yeah, but then there no, there was so, like, and a

way, and at the end, and we, we're, we're, we're we're,

we're my prero, my four, five years, and We had to go to my tithe to the rancho.

To be there, and we're going to be able to, I remember that I'd try yeah a little, a reloat, a relock of the maceca. In a key, then, the maceka, regalabra. I said, well, I'm going to put it in the conometer,

for a lot of, we'll be able to go ahead. That was the mission. How do we do? To my tia, I wasaima. And there I went, well, well, well,

we're being perished. We did, we're just like two hours to get. When all the last We're going to And we're We're getting We're getting

We're We're To get to get to We're going to get to We're going to We're going to We're going We're in person

And they're No, I'm going to My friend My friend Percibly Let's see For the river

The riverer The riverer You've done And they've They've done They've done And so Gollens

Golley the Rio And for There's much way and they're going to

where they go to, where they cross them to get to yeah, but they're yeah,

and I came here and my prim, no, we're going to go to at 6

the time, 6. and a day, there's there's there, and we

look, we're going, we're going, I'm, he was, he was, he's going,

crossando, cross him, we're going, we're going, we're going, we're we're going, we're

we're going, we've seen to the leho. I got him. I started the tennis. I got to

the tennis. To cross the rio, no. And in what I was taking the second the second

calcedin, it was to hear a risa for those type of like when classic a

witch, no? Like sinister. Yeah, that is a risa of a broucah. A carcahada. Ha, ha,

ha, ha. So, like. And another a little p'an. No, I'm

put to My primo and we said, like, with us, correle. And we're going to for the river. No, we've felt a lot of

to get. And we just had almost, we'd be going to be my tia, not would be my tire, not really,

that would be sure, but corre. And we're going and we're going, correling, and the risa, the carcasses

is still and I'm a little, in the river with, you know, in the rubeas and let's,

we're, go, and we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, in what we

we've got to the cruce to the where we've we've been a crossado of a initial

and after there's to hear the like we're having us we're trying to be

in the so in the moment until we we're we're a draggera

when it went to there's a machinery and the gondro and all right and allantito

like about about 400 meters to the through the

through the the draguera, she got to hear of the, the

talk about, the I'm, so we're talking about that we're talking about, we're

not, we're thinking, we're we're going to think, we're we're going,

we're what, what's, to start, what danger, and, and,

and, logically my my Tia no was. And there in that area,

it was, like, a type rancho, a rancherer or there many, many,

many, many people living in this place? There's there. Yes,

yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a bit of, so, there's a family, so they're like

already, it's just a very abitated. But, but, I'm saying that the house are very long,

and they're almost they're in the river, some solar very great. Oh, look at a talk to a

time, but I get to a conclusion. all we've heard of the dweens of the

of the yorona of the brusas and curiously these stories are more propicious to succeed in places

where no there's great quantity of the what I'm in a in some

moment you get to talk of this never never you never you know

no imagine you'd not like so the gruja. Yeah, no, no.

It's that where it's where it's where it's where is where it's a little cabron, because, you know, the most minimal idea of that there was something there. Precisely, in stories of rancho, fiatty that one a friend me told me

a story, it came to me because it's a very important, that has been with this type of of seres. Not precisely

a bruise, but it's so much that propitious for the type of the place that I'd say, he me he was that

in this place in Guajaka Tuxtepec there is a samebram much

what is the cana so in this place to desacers of those spaces to be

to be to be the can't is kemar that is a common in that

practice even even with the so when the when when it

when it when it is the the, the yams that's a lot of

great. So, that precisely in that occasion, in those two years, some

were to a animal little, a animal, not if it was a maceo or a

libra, and when they were to get to get her and the humo. So,

all those who were presentes there in that camp and they were probably

because presumptomely when when they're the yams to these, they were to get, because we're

talking of much hume, much, much, much, and when they were they were

this animal little, they were that the animal was a a, a, a

coevita chiquita, and that they were, to hear, uh, that they chisteable,

and they were, and they They said they'd have been t'etriot. So, these these are these little to a little little d'undecito

chiquitos, some o'ombeckos, but they were like a senior, yeah, grandes, a face,

a car of the beheels. So, so, I don't remember well if said, that one of

them, he got the man to one of the people, and those, and he

was, to guide, for these tierras precisely for where not was the can't

the, the canes. So, they did you know? It was a so you

don't know. So, they're going to be the little the human and

curiously they're from the side that was not was that they're they're

they're they're with the death because no, no, no they

didn't not to enter or where to go to go to the then when the children they said

what was what they're you know what they're they're doing when they're doing when they're and the little the little more he's the man

he's helped the mannettico the homebe that was there into and those who old umbecito there's another

no a man so a chaparito chiquito us helped us allie and he was to say

because because precisely this person that's the story and I think that is the world

I think it's the other the places that are less abitats where there

where there is more population I think they are more incoices to such are

this type of bruchas that are that are they are transformed in aves and

they're in that form so sinister as the that the

the duendes even even even even to the ophneys.

I mean, the people like have more time to go to turn to the world and see

things that in a city not a time. So, came to my mind that that story

that's interesting. I think I'm to know that because you know, as they

know, as a little populated, so, it's precept, for example,

in that in that one in this zone that I can't you, we've

been many people, it's that they put, there's many

cadres. Of the actuality? Yes. Well, today, now, but before it was

a tiradero of the dead. No manches, in serious. Yes. Well, I mean

when I came to get a pela that you imagine. Why? For the the same?

For the most of the time. Oh, all that fielate that much of the

well, no, it has been much to do that has been to be here in

Kuliacan then also where I do or have some amylitudes

and the you know, the more never you never took to see what you never a thing to be

a lot of that's not, but no, never more more I've never talked to to pop me to know,

you're saying, you're saying, I'm going to mention that the place because then I'm going to make

in problems but there but there a place where they found a fos. You know

what type of of a fossa. But when this place, like a fossa but clandestina,

that nobody knew nothing, there was an friend of my brother that

was a very, that he said, he said, when he had around of about

of 14 to 15 years of age, he was going to play to play

a one side to where was this place, that had

characteristics, well, yeah, you'll deducer those people that are here, what are there, but in this place, they're, we're saying, venas volcanic, and there, this, like, it's like, like,

with burbushes, very cold, and, and, and this place, this, they're in a cancha or something similar. So, this muchach, this man, constantly went to play to

this place, and, curiously always always he was in a man that he was

with the clothes and the man when he when not were the rest

of his people he said he he he was constantly

just just just just and nothing that and

when he only he only he just he put to

the what ral or what was that when when

when when they were a little bit of a when they were a tear,

they were a time they're they're not to get rest of the and this man he went to be

a mittote, because they were a man of the robes that were precisely the one of this man

that was a man, that the regarra- and that exactly and you know because he said,

because he identificable because I said that had a a camisa of a manga large of

quadros and has to know that was a certain bolsas so yeah well

and that where was roto was cooked was cooked with some some

so like with patches of and when when saw

the the lot the part of the the man

he's man he's Mom, I've I've got to be this, you know, Cabron,

metete, you, what's there? And no he'd the experience. That experience

she let have come to a, to a a, to a family me,

and me he made completely surprised. But so so are the, the experiences

paranormal regularly. Regularly, we're we're we're that the thing

paranormal not is for any it's that you think that that's

so that's a question that they they're saying that's yeah so there's

people who very sceptica no so is very sceptica but even after

that they're exactly and they and they they're really it's

because these people because these people think that for ridiculize like

for example if you tell some of your stories a person

ecptica of this is the first that is the first is to be to be to be to beulars

but this type of person are the first are the first that are yeah so they're like they're

those so they're so that so that's so I'm thank you for for acceder

to come to come to come to come before we have to go yeah I'm going to

get to see you see and you're I'm waiting you thank

you're thank you thank you I hope that more more to spend when when I

come back to Coeliacan, obviously. Well, I'm not but if you're going to pass in the

way. Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm saying you say, to my part. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. And you you're so, thank you to get us to the final of this

chapter. I know know that I'm glad much much not per day in the next

chapter of more than the MED MED with Jesus of Nazareth Martinez.

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