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Episode Date: August 23, 2024

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And I always had an altar-cuit to the little bitters, with toys, vealas, the photography of baby-sita of her, because she was a little baby-sita, she was her. She was there, there's the Emily. But there was a time in that the baby he had made up to her.

And there was a moment in the way to get a and he'd grab a little bit. For that reason, because of that she was like to do that she'd be made with her. Of that she'd

and that she'd callable, so she said that she'd that'd callable, that peleable with her. And he'd hugged with that person, and I said, I'm going to do,

I'm going to be, until we're going, and the door of the door of my swery, the door of my was there was a, but it was a second

that you got to the little, and I got to my court, I'm sorry, to be there, it was a party out of it, and we had a fiesta,

we had a siret, we had a, so, so, so, so, so, so, it was, so, and then,

oh, there, there, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I,

and I was, and I was, the door and I heard that came the sign. And so they were in

the way of there's a way. When one we heard the noise of the signion.

One of the one of it. Oh, look. I'm just too, I'll record it. We were

we're just we're all the door always was in-serra with with a cardena

because I was I'd because I'm all right and the picture. I'm not

clearly I'm when passed to someone she put a man pured a girl in front of

the door and he's gritted, oh no, I know, I feltia that me

going to get to get the little people, I'm sure to the new chapter to a new

new chapter with Jesus of Nazareth Martines in this vocation dear before

to come I'm to make to make to my friends to let us

let us the courtesy of the great today thank you thank you are that they're in this occasion,

we're going to grab with a person a special, with some stories aterradoras of life. In this occasion, we're going to to talk with Susanna Yareli. How are you? How are you? Very, thanks.

You thank you. I thank you for to make and to talk about me. No, thanks to you for having me invited. In our channel, we affirmation that the world sovernatural is more real

that the world natural. You think that the things are so? Well, in si, in I know, but as you've done,

you've done the way, you've done the and I'm the more that's the yeah. If you're

in the more than the more than I want I'm going to think that you have some with the

paranormal? Yes, if I have various. Yes. What is the more what's

what you consider is that is the more It's the most Firt? I think it has been what I've lived with my daughter. And a occasion that I've lived

I. Okay. A bit, tell me something about that. Much before what of my daughter, my I was about me when I was here to Kuleyakan. I think I've been to live here in Kulakar. Okay.

I'm going to live my husband and in the department where we lived, I think, I think, I did things, something about about the Santa this murder.

I'm not I'm sure. But I think they were in an image of her. So, when I

was I was always there were many things. I was my cuneidit had in

this time that I'd give, some two years. And I know, and it was

where it was where that was my husband, I bidden to work and I

had been to hear much to hear of some they were they were they were

that they were that exploded all. my co-naidito started to say that there was

a guy he said I no no there's never we're we're not there's a man he was

he said he'd he said he's he said he's he's I'm

in really I was not a bad for this type of I'm I'm I'm

yeah one of my son's was to go to the pantio all right now I'm I'm just about

And, well, that day, the the new was like, and I went to get to and he was like, but I said that there's a person, and I was

like, he, there's a no-n-you- and I'm not my, and I'm doing it, and I'm not, and I'm not,

until that we're, we're more, and the door of the room, and the door of, one, and it was a,

but it was a cellarer, like, they were, it, I gotre the I, and I got to

my room, and it was, I, and it, and it, said that there fiesta out of the

we had a roo, we had to be a little bit that's the way to see, so on it was,

oh, there's been, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'd

the door to hear the and the sound, and there were there'd be there. When,

of one, we'd we've done the shillon, evented the two departments, the two quarters of the

department, my son had a lot of cartons when one pats those aventar no, I'm sorry

oh, man, what's the past, he went, he said, he said, he had been brought

that had been robed, yeah, I don't want, I want to be here, I'm really, and I'm sorry,

and he, in when he went, this no is a drama or nothing, to him, he was,

he was, the sillion, bolted, the cartons all, the, and the he was,

but he, with the creencia, that they had entered to robar, no, of that was that the thing was, that the Lord said, I, yeah, no, digas nothing, and I'm

very excited. I think that's one of the things that me have passed more, of that, no, I said, this is another thing, this is much.

Just, some days before, of that was all this, I'd have with that, oh, well, if all right,

oh, and I'm, I don't mean, I'm sure, in what situation we We thought about us, I said I was, yeah, it's not going to be,

I think we're going to go, and so we've got to join. When I said, oh, well, I'm going to pay a favor. Well, I'm going to pay it, and, well, and, and, so, too, and, so, I said, yeah.

Well, in quite, to pay the favor, she looked at the favor, so, like if something so I'm going, the door of the entrance? The door of the the room of us?

Oh. So, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. Descarto, discard. And I started to restinarily. No, no, I, no, I I believe in God, I believe in God. And I think that he started. But my cooniatto was the only

that was, both a senior and a new. He said, the young, to us, to us, in the same, never passed nothing. But he, if he no, he had to do that, my son-in-lawed to that, and he he was going to go to her mother, for that he was there some days because the little I don't

know the and the that's we know we knew we know we know we know

that's so that no no more more than more than that day but no

so it was something very inexplicable but but but you know

in that house did some some type of some part of the

point to the Santa Muir yeah I to what we

this so like she like they they they did

things and if they were things but if they were they used for something but not just for the creencia

and never never said to do you know to do you or not they were to ask you no

my son was the only that was he started water but he was she was to get a

place where she she had the she said that he said that he said that he said

no I'm no I'm So, all you're going to do. He was going to. He started and started and began to rest, and so, and no, said she had that she had to be. He said, he had his mind.

And he had to leave it because yeah no could. Only what was the kitchen, the cell, to enter to the part of the quarters, you know could. Because she said she,

that the energy no, the energy, no, that was, and that door, was that, and, pass, and had one of those pass-and-se,

and said, and, and, and my son, that he said, and my sister, that he said, maltreat.

Because I said that so so they'd So, and I'm maltratolars But other But again That's

Like they're Like they're Like they're Like they're The same The door and the Yes That's put in the

Ports? No, So, So, Yeah, that No, I took to see to see it

I think was the most I'm gonna what the what happened all of all that

but my suhra so, it was so it was something incardiac to all

that was there. And your suitor never experimented these much

before no, no, me, I know. No, no, it's very,

too, not very fan of this. Very religious. Uh-huh. But, yeah, he,

he took over all that, but, there was, then it's there in the Santa Morty. Mm-hmm.

We have, no? But who know, because I, to see, to be it to be there.

And you you're, how did you know, that's a Santa because it because it

one of the familyaries. Ah, okay, who I lived earlier in that

the department. Yeah. And you know, what was, I don't know, or so if it was a a black,

a Santa Morton Blanca. No, no see. It's important. It's important that data because

also there you can't do you do some kind of some type of culting adding

that's a important to know of the cults to the Santa Morty if those adderer than

those when the Santa Morty's vener, in a place, no doesn't nothing.

Where is when they add an energy with the with the esoterism, with the burghiria, magic,

and how for the maldda? Yes, regularly, for the maldard because the image of the Santa Morte is

an image neutral. Yes, so it's not like if the, if the venerated in that

is a being to to be to damage or to molest. It's like

if you use it's like, if you're good, but if you use it's for the bad, it's obvious

that you do you're to do you do you do you and this entity that they were

like a person, like a someone, it was, it was a senior. He

always said he was a man, he's always was a man, in a senior in a senior and

he said it's a person, he's a cost to my camera, the he was to the

car I mean, it was clear. No, he could ask him to how it was, because he was a

little bit of a new year, but she said that was a man, he said that's a man, no,

never, never, never, but he was a little, like if he had a question

one, not that he put an question, but there, there are some cases that's

many that here there are our friends can find out the case of

Ivan, that his that's a little a spectros demoniacos and even

he's just described every one of the rasgos of the demons well demons and entities phantasmal that my

my daughter when I was when I was a little I was I just I never never was like on she

I'm gonna I'm gonna but I'm chikita if I got to get to get many things

that one I didn't know so I didn't know so I didn't I don't know. So, also,

I'd know I'm to ask me to ask me to talk to talk to her about that because I

was really not for the fact of what, of the, of the fact, but the know that was

she was she was I'm doing that it's bad, well, those things are bad, because they're

to see many questions I, but, but yeah, too, my son, I'm,

and my life, she's, she's, she, she's nine years.

And not has been seen seeing seeing doing things. No,

I know. That's those of those manifestations that she

were to what age to to the year? The

first she was she was I was I was some

two years yeah some some two years after

the second thing that I think I had

some three four I don't I remember and

the other was more more where she's it, she had like six years. Oh,

so, so, no has not much of that. But all was exclusively in that or were in

mad places? No, were different places. Ah, okay. What else had seen? The first

thing she, with what she started, was that the prima of my husband, she was

her mother, and she she, she, she, she, she, she, she, any,

this that could be to be No, we know, we know we took to go to go to and the

entire and she when she got very to get her and her and she were all the

and she had a altar to the little bit of the photoarchia of her because she was a

babycita and she she was she she she was she go, there's the

Emily because so she's she's she's she's gonna she's gonna she's

she's just she she's all we're we're just like so, but there but there

was a time in that the baby he had she and she had to be she had

those and there was a moment in the she had a jugate and I

would have a bit oh, that he did it but it was but it was

that they're and it and so so it so that you're that they

wanted to be so that reason because that she started like

to make maldades with she, of that she'd and that she had to be

she said, she said, she'd say, she'd that she was, there's a moment, in

the way, he said, I'm going to talk to my Tia. Ah, well,

tell me. No, I've got to talk with my Tia, the girlita of the

little, and I'm, but is that you, you can't tell me to me and then I'm,

no, no, no, no, he's due and so, and so, and so,

I'm, yeah, what you want to to say to your tia, platicam, no, I mean, I wanted to

get to the house with the aunt of the other, and he he's, I'mup to talk to talk to

talk about and she he was to get to the room. Yeah, I'm going to get to

the emily. No, I said, because they had a fear, but, no,

how you're going to get to get to be to be to be no, is that

she yeah me gave permission. Me he said he could he could he was

he can't to you can't you met you to the quarter, he he was in

campanty all the day. Ah, so you did you do you? Yeah, no

did you. And she said that she was, but not all we said, how you

was to see a someone that you know, I mean, you, never,

but, because it's, it's always were, several years, one of the

other, but, she said she, she was a mind, it's a little

she, so, so, and she, and, and that baby in what circumstance

this fallacy? Nassio malita Nacio and then it was it was

I think was a three days I'm yeah yeah it's yeah was almost

recently was the baby so so are some things that we're

so to start to get to be a baby so so

for a baby because there was a time in which it was to be able to be a lot of the month of her, the birthday year, and you'd be that every that she'd regisada, she'd beckon, with much things,

that she'd be able to make, not the other, she'd grab about something, she'd say that it was for what he had had gotten. And she'd be, she'd was, she'd be a chiquet,

but she'd be, clearly that was for the little, and he'd say, there was a, and she'd, and, like, you'd have to be a child, and we

we don't I'd like to ask to ask you I'm going to be I'm much a lot of I'm too time

all pass of all this of one she was she was like for a moment that she she didn't

she didn't she no he said to the father the father the that was

the the father of the child of him and that that day my my I was

I was here. My wife was in Masatlan and we're in the business we had we're with my

with my little bit of my little bit of and my he was in Masatlan. He had gone to go to and they've got

and all right and then I'm going to Masatlan because I went to the little when we came

the house that where that was in a little bit of that was in a question and that man had the

custom of to go to the pure corner to sit down in a pierre to come to come in a

time, I'm going to get to be to find out and then we're in the taxi she didn't

know I had said nothing, nobody me had commented nothing. When one

me says, I'm said, Larabe and he's like, I'm like, I'm not,

I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, he didn't, he, he, so,

so, like, for the retrovisor to be, and there is sat sat

to the Arab yeah, She was interred. How would I? Yeah, now. Yeah, no, I don't be.

And I'm kidding. No, I'm not, I'm not. No, no, it's the Arabi. And still, I'm in the asient to

look to look to look at, but, for the video and the backerer to see. Yeah,

after we came to there, I didn't, I don't say nothing. When I said,

um, Amah, me said, the Arab said, he, he, he,

he, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, Here he had a cocoa, and so he was like, he said,

here. A coo. Yeah, a co-o. So, like, a, so, like, a, like, a, but she said, like, a, okay. So, like, a, like, a goal. Yeah. He said, and for that's, he said,

he said, you, how do you know, he said, he said, nobody said, where he had pegged the ball. Nobody. until that the show that the

muchcha about the mother of the mother of the was that she she said she said she the erida

was here an erida abdominal and all we we said and I said and I said and I said

that you said that all that Ashley was true where where she and who and who

he was and who nobody we had said nobody we didn't even she even she didn't

existia was that she had been going to. And we kept us all of all the kind of

all of the thing I said no, no, no it's like, because she said, because I never

was to get to get that to be, I mean, I don't, I don't, I was, I never

descarbable more because me'd that she would be that, I was going to pass up

those things but, I'm not, I'm much fear. Of course, if it

can be a little a little a little little bit a that's exponged

because you're you're you're to get a little bit of what you're the parents

of the little bit of the little that they're that they were in the things I think

to my point of that they they're that they were there but I don't think

that has been the baby I'm we we we're we're we're

the ballita that was she was she she was she was she during

much time to put to altar and and on and putting him

and they're and they're a person yeah a person to get a point,

pardon, you have to bring a because I think the light not, well, yeah,

I've heard I've heard. I know, I'm heard about, no, no, no,

but I've heard that we've seen let's hear, yeah, I'd say to go, yeah,

let's get to get, and I never, much time, with this duels, with that

that I'm that could do that to let's go. And if you do you know the reason. Also, um,

time in the area where I live is a zone where I live is a area there's a lot of people in that

conflict or armed, civil armed. And in a occasion, some people me invited to go to

an exploration where we went to supposedly see the place where there were rest of

those cristeros. So, when we get us some some people and we

we're going to rest for these people, we're going to we're there's a so they're

so they're so they're a form of because they're the back and in those times my my

friends, some of those were in the seminary were in preparation

sacerdotal and we've we had we're to do we're we're

so we're we're we're around of a or two months and

they were a lot of things in all that the lapse of time and there was a moment in a

moment in a we can't we can't have to be many people when we went to a a serdote

that was a general we gave the explanation that it no is good

to restarles so time because not you don't you're

just you're so they're they're not they're not

they're out of a camp santo. So, if you are resaling so, so you're

perpetuating, you're not that's perpetual. So I think so that's, so I think that's the

we said, you know, let her to get her to put her belas, no could I have

to let her. No, so are situations that are with that she was a chistosos.

Well, I go Chistoso now, but I have a question that we're going to we've got to

do you know to be a un-asatlan I'm I'm I'm my third baby and

in the house that one I'm not oh you know I'm that's my fear

to I'm to be we're all I and the kids I'm

the door always was incered with with with my

kids and the patio too all all all That day, we're

We're just We're going With the When of one I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going

When it's When it was A-noyne A-n-posed the Yeah Grit-o Grit-o Irah

Oh no I feltia I'm going to Morrie Rapido I went to The camera I went to

I'm going to It's impossible that someone It's impossible Because I've got Because I'm Because I'm It's impossible

impossible, impossible, I said I. No, I was super a sustat. My Tia, vivied, a quarter of the other,

I got to the little. Let me go. When we went, my tea me accompanied to the house,

me said, well, no, I said, my other day was out of the said,

and me my, God, I, I said, the little, the baby. The baby.

How? How did? Ah, is that the Arab, yeah, he, I mean,

and he went to her. He said, he said, and I said, and I said, no, because I said

that's this that. And I'm just, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's all right,

that's never, never, never ever to be to one of the two. So,

so, they were just, and that he he, and that he had, and that he

had left. And the place, and the nothing to because, it was, it was,

it was, they, just, the little, the, at least. And yeah

never never to see, no, she, the Emily yeah, she's

her her own the she's because I know the and then she can't

and he and the and the father, because the man, I was that I

had a little time that I'm looking, they're going to get to

her and we're going to get to she's she's she's she's

she he's So, I'm so much I'm really, oh, no, how is possible? And coincide you with that, with that gritty? Yes, because I said

she was she, oh, no, no, it was a gritty that, if it was something, it was, it was a little, like, of a little, it's a like, oh, no, it's a question. Like, a,

a, desgarabor. Yes, it was a great, but it was like, ah! And I'm kind of that who, who who's get you

and I went to get and I'm going to my head was a that I'm not a

person, it was impossible that would enter to someone to get to that that's

so you know. Or, or you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

then I'm no, I'm going to go to go back, no, no, no,

no, no, for favor, yeah no. Apart of these manifestations

that were there were there had passed for some other type of situations. She's herself. She's a little.

Yeah, the ultimate that me is, that she made, that made, an am I, a friend my, a man, she fellsio,

and I had to know that I accompanied to his kids, then, well, I, well, I, gave to my

mother, my children, and my children, and she had a rata looking at the car, but I said

is curiosity, then it's a new year, She has the curiosity to be, when she started to say to me that I'm

that she was she was she had to who had she said, and she said that, she said,

she, Mom, a man, a man, a man, a man, a, a,

senior pelonsita, she, was, she was, her, the other much of the a man,

a man, I was a man, I didn't know, I was in a question, I was, my mom

my mom I asked, what I'm, she said, the Ashley. Nothing, mal, I said, I,

I said, I'm, she'll be there, mom, this, mom, this, mom, ira,

mom, and yeah, that's, so, so, I'm, so I'm, I'm doing,

I'm doing, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I thought that was. I'd have to that I B'en, I said, let me say, let's, I'm going to

the table, and she was made, and she wasom, she was she was her, she

said, she was there, and I was there, and I, no, I, well,

she said, she, she said, she, she, she was her man, so,

in the crystal. Well, in when put her little little, so,

they were some the little little bit, and clarito she made on the crystal

like you have put a porcito for a okay, so mark in the crystal.

He put his manita and in her manita and in the hand you put her more

more than and she said, she is she is she is she and she is her

and she she's going to be momah yeah, he's not going to be

here she he's he's he's he's he's I'm happy.

Yeah, so, but, I said, I was a little, no pas a lot, no, but I'm impacted with her man. And I said, no.

And I, when I saw that, he got to the hand, and I said, I said, oh, no, for what, I said, yeah, we said, yeah,

we're going to sit down, and I'm going to be sad, but not to be the kids of her, but yeah since we got to get to

the menorio, and I'm the mancita, but I'm brasand her the chasota. Ira she was

brazano to the other woman and the woman a man to not she was a

little bit of the little she was and because she was a peloncita and with a

type maskada in the head so never he said no

no what you think that you would have said no

I know I know I don't I know I don't I

don't I don't I I'm I I'm I'm the

I'm I I don't remember well, but she said that was to the other thing, I don't know

if he said to my mom, it's that me have said, I'm going to but I'm like it's not like that I'm

like that my I'm going to my I'm going to, oh, but you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you've got to suggestionable to the little, because I'm doing a form natural.

But I, but I did much fear. But I think if if you would be good, so I'm,

yeah, yeah, but if you And me, I'd like, I'd like, meaddle, because, I said, you, I'm, like, someone,

that, and, and she, and she, I know, and she, but she was, she, I was,

I've been, I've known, I've seen, I've seen, I, I, she, I, she, and, but,

so, and the, of the, colony, well, very, very, very,

so, but, so, so, so, that she, that she, that she,

that she, that was, so, so, I, so, Yeah, no I wanted to go to the

misa. When they they were to do you know, they're doing one of the present and

me said, no. No, I didn't, like, to put it. And, they're,

they're, going to, some, and she with her. With her, she, that was,

that was, the ultimate. Yeah, I know got to be, there, yeah, no,

I'm going to see, see, so, is normal that's the people,

that type of situations, because they they've been things that we're not. If you're saying, when one nace, it has that, that's a faculty, like, what the eyes

not see, what they're, what's the more that's the, you know, I'm, you know, of my wife,

and of my other little bit more chiquito, that one once I took, to look at something, I'm, I'm,

I, I, my mom, I, no, I'm, no, me, I said, and, no, my My kids, me said my mom.

I never has been one of that Diga. So, I know, why? I'm, because I, because the videos do, but, but, yeah,

to my daughter he took, my my son, the more than this we were, we've, we've been in a house of

two-pice, in a time we've got to the room of the other before, you know,

that that was a vibra very fea. As, I retom what I've said,

I was not a Miedosa for these things Of course, if I was I was just To see a movie of terror I'm enchantada I'm lamented

That and other And I'm not M'd be madame And you could To get to And I'm To get to After that

After that In this Quarter was Like an energy That you You know No manches Senties the

Wormpo pesable No dormia I'd Dada demasiado Mio I'd I'd be I'd be

No, I'd I'd be I'd to do not, no, no, no, I could get my my feet salier, my man would

and then after that I'm not a lot of a little bit to be able to me know, no, I

do it really a no, I'm too much. After the time, he's he was up to the

back to and I was just to get to when I , I'm, when I'm saying,

Mom, who is that that's that's that's that's got to on the

in the back you, he's he said, and he heard, he said, he

I said, I said, he said, he said, he said, who? Is that there had a man

there's got to be, and I and I'm I'm I'm, I know, no,

he's, no, he said, no, no, no, no, no,

he said, he said, he said, he had a signor on you, and he was,

and I, and I, was, I, I was, I'm, I'm, but it

was, it was, it was, it was, no, but it I mean, of

there was like, it was like that's my my fears, and no, yeah,

for these things, no, I know, I'm, it's much for me. But the

fear to appear to appear to those manifestations with her. How?

Pardon, those manifestations that were to come in a... The quarter,

since that we were, it was like, it was, there, a vibra very so, no

I don't know, I'm I never could be in the quarter. I didn't do you, yeah, no, I could do like, because I, I mean, I was me, I mean, I'm, I'm really a lot of, my husband

is very meadosso for all that. When I took to go to go to the time, it was to do you, I was to go to meepard, because he had a fear, and I was, and now no, yeah, me a fear. Yeah, me da

much fear, and so, no, but that's, so, so, so, it's, so, so, so, it's, so, but yeah, no, I just to be able to be more of what I can't do. Okay. No, well, so, are situations that's quite fifted.

When one, uh, sometimes when one is more, um, you can't say, not meadoso, but more, um,

try to avoid the things, it's attract, exactly. Mm-hmm. Like, what more pass.

Yes, I, well, you, no, no, you know, but,

no, but, no, I was, to be a pantyone in the night and I'm valiantona

because I don't I'm afraid to see to see I'm not yeah I'm yeah I'm

no I'm no matter but right yeah I'm I'm started much me started much fear

when the when the manifestations parnormality ceased with your no no no

not not they did not some other with you or with

some family or no never never I mean, I mean,

I'm not something, I mean, I'm saying, I'm going to what's, what I'm, but no.

The fact was only of her and yeah. I mean, never was another thing. Right,

in the where we're, yeah, so, we've, so, see, so,

so, so has been when we're getting, we're saying that I'm something, I'm,

I'm, so you hear in things, I hear in the way to

hear like if someone and I'm there. My kids said that one

there's a a taparer said they're they're they're

they're like a like this like this that's that's that's

my kids there and said that they're not they're

they're they're they're a lot of the maybe sometimes you try

to disfras the fear with with with risas But, you know,

that my I'm going to like I'm going to. Right, it's like very valentona, I'm very to be very

to be like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, put a movie of a movie of a and it

and it's, like, she's, he's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, yeah, ma, I'm, to be a movie, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not,

I'm mad about, and I'm maddoous, and I'm, and so, and so, and, more things to me that have

passed I think that I'm going to that's the experience with my and my life and that's

experiences of family and that you have surprised that you're that's what that's what that's what

that's there's that there's that we're we're going to we're we're going much that

person because we said we we're like all a little little we're not that if if we

we'd we were almost, a sustado. But it was that there was a ranch with my mom, there in the rancho with my mom

there was a phantasm that said a chancluda. Because I said my mom that when my

abuel was a, it's a serro of a only a house, only the house of

him. And to go to the river and still you gores much to

get to get to where there more other day, I said, my mom,

that's all all over all over. All were all when to one they were in a bultito black that

came. But, it was like the chancla. No. So, like when they're

the sandalias in the talon. Yes, it's always like, the chank, the chanclada.

And said, my mom, that they were, and my my abuel and my abelel was

the chancluda, and they was the first that it was the first and they said that one he passed

for in front and there and that's all very a little bit and that's my abelah!

oh my abel to come, well, to one of my Tos valianton, he went to get to go to the

same the same to go, he went after she went to her and he said that every every

was much much more less, being that he was atrasito of her and the was more

So, when one, get it and they're that's he went to for the river. So,

that's not he met you to the water directly? No. Flot,

he said, that never mirro, that's that she moved the water. She

flotto a middle river, and to the end to the end of

the and he did was, he said, he said, he went with,

and he's he went, he said, he said,

he gory and I said my My mom, well, what my mom and my brother

us talked about and my she said that that she a girl they they were

much and that they were and that they're saying my my mom that is

that is my abel that the she, that when she had

started to the marid the last that they they were

that they got that she got his garro his warache

and And he corrie. But, but he said that the Lord was after of her.

Regressed the sir, but never rereased to the sir. So,

so at a mo' he said my abo, what was because his

husband was, but no, but never said they're the

why the waraches then. Well, is the simple of that they

have recognized that he's he gave the sandalias

in the man. But said it's said all

because to my tis all my they took to hear them, and they said that, yeah, what happened? And even past very long, it would be like if

the waraches, they'd be one. So, yeah, it's all right, oh, here the chancluda. Yeah, after those of the rancho, it was a bit normal, but they said that, if they were just, they'd passable, not it was that they'd, they'd, when they'd were back, the warrachers, they'd,

they'd be near, and there were, and there were some, but it was, and there was just, that, like, cynica, my abo, because us passed by in front of

that. And it and it did it. They used to them, they were to look at

a little to go to be in the time, so, they were with the lanterns or the way, they were, they were

not, not did, not did, of other laments or something, only was the only was the

chankas. No, No, no, only was the Rueed to the Chancla. And never knew if he did a person.

No. Dece me my abo, that no, because is that not, it's that's my mother,

oh, how not it's a bad, but is a bad, no, he does it

to be a man, not a only does it, but I'm about it. But they said, and when

they were they were doing, so they used much the sembrated of, yeah, so used to

say that when she used to When she had to pass for those semradios she was they'd

because they said, they said that she would be that she would be so they're

getting, who's that's that mystery that's that's good, and we're

that's more of grand that we that we went to the way to

I said my primos and if we're we're asking to ask

to ask to ask them to ask you to try to to

And then my friends, no, sackat, that's, what, I'm scared, and that's, but never and I'd, and I'd, before.

I'd say, I'd, and I'd get to be in my saying, let me, let's see, I'm going,

I'm going, or why, or why it, or what? And no, my, my, never, never me

never, they're in the role, and so, and so, and there's many, in those ranches,

that are, so, I'm, that's so, they're, that's, they're, they're,

they're, to know the reality of that person why does that or why in the chanclas or why for her arm and there.

No, it's that is that has the sense for the story, for how to

the question of that but my father, my ex-a- old, my ex-a- -aw-law, he said

that's that she and the shanklas they said that because when she was when she

was to I'd have and I had to and I'd me, she was he was to

get her and he got her to get her. The man went to he went to the other

the other and he no, they're, now they're to see, to the woman.

And that's not the other than the other than you. He said, he's still in the time, he says, that's still

he's still, he said. How did you? How did you know what we're to talk about He, no, he, when he gets

he comes to some stories of what I've been and a lot of I'm going to, and I'm, what's going to, and I'm,

what's going to say, and no, my abo' he doesn't talk to my abel, his stories

of the rancho. And no, and is that those stories are the most interesting. Yeah, yeah,

he, he, despite, so, after that, uh, this is, I said that my

Papa said that they'd that were in the middle of two arborers. The fire?

Yes, the fire. And it was for the backada that we used us we used to go to

and my papa always said look there there's there's and my man,

we're saying we're to get the there's there's there's ah

well, he'd be a valiantone there's not night because still

not too was always was a when it's when it's all over to get

that's, I'm all right I'm all that we're all right and we're we're going and then we're

pallying and my abueling and my dad said my mom he's a live

my papa because he was going to go to go ahead to palen and let and why

not palen and you know I'm I'm not I'm my father that's my as a, like appellate, they were,

they're like the middle meter, yeah, escarv, when they were to hear gritos. My papa

said that were laments. My papa never said, he said, that was a , and that were the

and that heard things, and that were my Trio, I think, he said, he had some audiphonos

and that he knew, but that he said, oh, and that no, and he said, he he, he

said, he, he said, and he said, that he was that, more firt, more met in the pala,

more more more than the he said my papa, he was my that he's not that you

that he's that they were that they were that were that were that said, but they were the voices

of my like if my person, like my father, so I'm that's my father,

so I'm my father. Oh, that's my time, my dear, it's because we're just because

we're just we're just you, Well, he said that he was to get my Trio and that

when he he wanted he was he was that he didn't because they were not the

people were to be to hear of the people. He said, he said, and he didn't

they were, they were there had any there had antecedents of persons enterando

his tesos or his my father that was that these that were that were

that were the people were that were that they had

they were they were Well, before, says my abo, that chas in bolstas or cost to the money, and said he said that he

was a little that he had a little normal, yeah. My abuas said, is that there's, there's that there

is that you know, because you know, because I'm, because I know to be able to say my my father.

But, my papa, my papa, my papa, my papa, my, my papa, said that,

no, no, so, how? And no, since he , My papa,

I never had passed something. That's the that's the manch and never he took

to see, my pa, that was a thing that was a lot of, the thing. The gritty not,

no, that they were the, not that, the gritts, that I had, more,

more, more, and that I said, if he had been a little more,

I'm a so I'm said my pa, he's been one local to hear so much to hear

that word, and never knew they were the They were the flas. That said my papa, that were rojas.

Rojas. That's all right. That's why he said, was the word? It was the word? I don't know how it meant it, but I said my mom. Acabed to bring the fire.

Because it was my black, a lot of the yamara. And said, my father, that were like, that's all right? Yes, grand, says. And I remember that my papa

said that was that was the lex that were that they were, of lejos. And, there, as I, as I repeat, no, there's total, they're used to be in total, it's all over the lunar

and the chichimbas. And so, yeah, but palmed there, and that place, the way, the way, the road, the mountain, and so was a lot, like if I was trying to be a house.

Yeah, it was very very strong. Yeah, between the dark, in the dark, there. There, there, there, well, no, I can't say that they're, because

the person with that I'm a, it's a buscator of and the sorrows completely professional. And this sir affirmed that the people that can take this class of tesoros are

persons elected and those that are not. Fichthate is quite curious because if they're a place where they're in the Fuego Fatu, they're in the Fuego

fatu and they're to do a buskedom in form of spiral in these places and that regularly in the entirrows, you could say, that not precisely we're going to be able to be able to be able to becied. The treasure can be something precious

for the dewean. Like, like, for example, if I, for me, something are some pieces of my liens, like, for example, of my daughters. For me, that would be a treasure. So, not precisely we're talking to order, but in these cases, we're saying of questions of money or of values. This person

me something that's something that never I've heard of

that is that a sometimes they're to make to the

the guardians of the the and it's a way in

that they can give to do then so

in this case I think the man I'm a

mann't a good a person a Tesoro. In this case, what he had done is

go, detectar where the place, and go and do a party to stay. Oh, well, but we'll invite him to go and he'll take. And we'll do mochila. Yeah, it's a interesting. Yes, it's the festival. Yeah, when

does it do the festival, now, yeah, after this, do, do you, see, that, let's hear, this, the busk. Vierra that I'm going to tell a lot, but But, so, no,

no, I know didn't have any of the year, one in person he went to

a treasure, was a ojita, with a monodonas so. De ore?

Of the centenarios. Pure, but it was the form of the he was, he was

a, and, he, he's, he's encountered with a woman, a woman

of a years. So, with vestimentas antivets? No. Well,

not antivues, but with their vatas. A woman with vatas and floried and so,

no, because he was described it. So, so, he said, she said, he,

he, he said, and he said, and that he said, he said, no, is very

very much, I know, you can't you know, to do, to be, he, he said,

he, he, he, you're to find a surprise. The only that what you have to do.

Tumba all the ornilla. No, you tumble it. And what is what he said a woman

had never had seen, but he said that was a person a how he said. I said, because I said

that he said that he said that the woman he did his armazzo and that he's for

that you it's for you, it's for you, your kids, be. So,

so, so, so, pass days, days, days he didn't he didn't go to

he went to go to he went to go to the year he he went to get a

house yeah yeah food for the mountain but was like a

a cabin yeah but yeah but it yeah it's like before

like that yeah yeah yeah yeah but in the part that he

he said he was there was to turn that was a pincuica not

she took and he and he started to tumour, the ornilla. And he started, in a certain time, and said, that he was excited because there was nothing.

But he said that there was, I was going to see a woman, that he said, ah, and you're saying, ah, and you're, what's here? But yeah,

like, enojored, and raill'er, and, what's here, that, and this, and that's, that, how he could do see, how I'm able to see, and that,

and that's the, and he said, and he said, and he kept, and he, he kept, Well, I, I, still that I got a little yittal.

I think I'd try like 11 monedas. Some of the money. Has it? A few bit. No, yeah. No, man. No.

No. No. No. Yeah. They disappeared. Now, but disappeared. They're disappeared

of that changed. Because it started and it and for a little, it was done. So,

not they were to sell. Only a person. What the thing. And, and

and yeah. And, and, and, And yeah with that person just, but also the person that was bought

to them never got to have had, she was bought, she was like a value but for him was a dineral,

but so as how it was so it's piffarrow. Yes, is that what they have in that type of monoevas

that some are very, very precious there, there are different editions of the centenarios,

because there are even certainaries in the actuality that's forgain in the actuality. I think

that the First editions, a monad of those, in the actuality, it's 70,000 and 160,000

pesos, most of us, every money. Every single. So, it's a diner.

So, and when he came, he was said to him had said to nobody, until that

was the confidence to say to someone, and the person, he was a man, I'm saying,

I want, but no. So, this, if, so, Because, and nobody could

create, because, because, but, but, but, he's not not a

whole , but he in the money, is the money, is it in the

that's that you have a deficit of a or what? It's that's

really so, oh, okay, he's a thing, oh, okay.

Yeah, well, not so so, it's of that, it's, that,

it's, um, so, and, and even he's he Well, at the time of that he's

the oil-it-because-you-a, because it was a-o-y-y-y-y-a-old, one-ye-old of these very-ve-old. And at the time, he started to look at the woman. She looked at,

I, a person of that rancho, very-egeted, and the lady she gave the photo. That she was her mother. He said that was her

her mother, and that had been years that had had been a year, years, years. I think he said when

she had two years I think that she had been and she yeah the she had

many many many many many many we're talking and that he said and that was impossible

that she he said he said and he allegle and allegely and he he said

no my brother when I had two years and the she was she was

being bigita fifte that you that I used substances. I just to get to

a theory very interesting. Let's go to tryer the idea. I don't see have seen any type of therapies.

Well, not therapies. They're like sessions spirituales with these plants that are,

well, if I'll mention it, but that ayahuasca with Pejote, with the sapo,

exactly. They're they're many times of these substances, obviously, for not

to do the body and they're in spiritual with people specialists

in chamanism and all these things. Precisely these days that I'm in the city of

Mexico, me told them a story about interesting of a person

that was a substance so. So, we're to a conclusion between

this the witch and we and I, the substance has

that you make that you But, but at using in form

subtle, so, a little. What would what would do you do you do you

a substance but super potent that could do you know. So, it could

that you do not physically but it can that may that's maybe

that's you. And for that reason, you can't even be that the effects that

the delirous tremes, the things of delirio or of things that they've been like spectros and all those that many say, no, it's for the thing that's

that's not that's in the body. Muchs are that not so for the substance but because they're that they're not going to them and

then those these phantasmas, these demons and all these things. So, the that you mention that he was that he used

that's that for me is That has That's, that has That's That's, that's

And he No, and he in a In other, he's He's He's

He's He's But he But he He said He said He said Like,

Like, like, Like, I'm I'm talking Like, I'm still I'm talking,

He said, he said, that's He said, He had to He went to He's to be

to a place To be a rancho in a house where no he said he said,

because I mean he took to go to go to that house there was in

middle of the mountain he had he had his cat where he had

a dark and he and he said and he was because

he was he could say yeah so I don't understand we

don't so because he said he said that he was that he

he gave a this, but in in the same no a woman. He's

only he said, and he said, he said, he said he was he

had, he's he said he said, he said, he he had he

had a so, but so, he said that the light, and there

light, and there was, I was, there was in total obscurity, but

only only if the light to be the flash of the nothing,

and we just we We've got us. What on? No, that is, is it

is a very. But, if you're like to confirm more and more. Of course, I, I'm,

I'm going to do that to do this type of people, for the less, indagher a

little. Because if it's like, it's like, that these people that these people have done

things and not the question of the effect. If, if I'm to come, again,

that I came to come to back, and I go to to the rancho.

Ah, yeah, how not? There's my aboel and there's certain people with that

can't. But it's here in Kulakhan? The Mazatlan. The Mazatlan. Yeah,

in Masatlan. It's that I'm going to We're going to do that vacations and we're going

video. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Some of other of the

things that you've heard, you're just interesting to do you, my mom to be

a mom she said something similar but of a little bit of a yeah

she said she was they're having they're that they're they're and they're

to get to get to the end up and then I'm to get to scurvy to scurbar

that they're to play with the and they're that they're they're

they're gonna they're gonna they're they're gonna start with like guesito oh

cussus I'm that first She kept at those so like and that she'd

and that my my aunt said, I said an animal or something that's been

scarbando and they're scarvando they're getting more wos until that they

got one of the head a cranium that they they were after that after that

they're they're a money but there only only there only was one

that they they're that they they're they're they're they had done

not they were the money. When they started all, they were they were

because they they were and they're and that they went to my abel. Papa, well,

that's the my abel what, what was what he said, that's, when they

went, so, he saw, my old, and the money, that's

me back, that's my mother, I'm going to go, I'm going to go to and that

he's to get to her, that you goons, that you're to And that he's scalamunded, my mom, that she has no

he's not-sacomacom, but he said that if started to take the cranios, that at the last, my abo-socrow, pardon? And he said my mom, that when they started to, my abel to talk, like, in the can'tines, so, that he started, a senior of that the people, he said, that they were, that they, cre, cre, that those are two

musicians that had been perished. in that time? Because they were they they were the money that they were they were in the

music and said that you know, that they were the music that they were they were they said

my mother, she said mom, dorada, and that was she gave me fear and they were to get her

and when my abo got her the money and said, and that said I go, I'll go, I'll see

escarvating, but be it for you. And that she went to get my mom yeah

not know up that my abo his did that he

had got a cario. Yes, they were the adult and they're the time

of the same, the my aboo started to say, and so

he said, and it said, a man of there he said, ah, is that,

they're to be the musicians that they're that's he said, my

father's like like like, so sure so, if you had gotten and you

have gotten, and you had gotten, and he had had gotten more but I don't recall very very well that. But my abhorlo,

still escarvando. He said that he still moving to scarvart, well. And in this place, no, there were, like, houses antivus, like, asyndas, or things like that. It was the ordeal of the river. That rare. It was the pure orleans, that we

went, and you were, they were in a school to one-lado, of the place that. I said my mom, that when we was platico, more or less or us We know, I think this is the place where I

enter when I scurbed when a little bit we're saying there's a hey, there's there's carba

not so my mom but said my mom that he said that's

the exact where I had been who who can see. Fient that also

for this explanation of the senior Manuel for the buscored of

the person the me had an explanation for that

of the question for the the one just just that

Here what is that's my extrano is that no there's a not a place, no,

there's a place great, like, but in those times, those ascendados,

when they were to be their those treasures, that were those, because were much

money, yeah, um, um, um, they'd, uh, that they were

to, all these excavations to, all these those ascendados, what they were that

they were that they arrancabbaugh the people, they'd put in the money,

and on the money, they were a person. So, that that that's, that's

that's even the general even, even he said more that they

used to use them and they were, and they had seen an type of

ritual or something, and that that was that the earth was like

seyada, like if was a maldition or something and for so no, for no,

for us the dinners. But what I'm sure that is my distinct. My mom, my mom,

never knew what he got it, but that's the two threeannies, and I'm that's,

because she got to get one with my other, and the other, he said, well, we're

not, well, we're, we know, we know, said, no, you know, said,

so-o- that's- so- In that same rancho I took that my tio went to be to live a time

for a year one of my tisel the more chikillo and said that one they'd

they'd come to go to go to the school and said that day they were

going to go and the cotorriand and so he said that they they're they're

they're grandotas and say that pas pats and they're that they grittando

for if was another plebe occurrent then, and that and that's and that's, you know,

no, no, they're going, and they're like a, like a pointecito of the rio, until the

other side of the river, they were that was putting a fire, but that when they were

that they were that they were to get to be little, they're not some of those,

and they're those, they're those are, they're not, because it were some they're a

bigsimus and we we're just we're what on and this, to see it's a plebe

or something, and we're we're going to we're in the moment we're we're in the point we're that we're

on the other side, they're going and it's a friendied. He said that was that was a

maraud and what said, and what did you know, we'll be to be that they're,

to get them because they're doing that they were someone that was saying that when they're

when they're exactly in the place when they were when they're when they Somon, no, no,

no, no, no. So, nothing, they said, then, so, like, there were, so,

something, said, but I said, that's, he said, and he said, and he said, there's,

there's, there's, if someone he said, it was, they're, they're going, to be,

to look, we're going to go, and they're, saying, we're, says, me,

we said, we're, they're, because, they're, because they, they're, they,

If if they were, in the head, then we'd say, my Trio, but very very scared, said, and then the other

side, you know, they were there's a part of, and so. I said, no,

no, no, they did a no, no, no, no, it's,

no, it's, no, is that about the questions of the the

things of the things, it's quite, and let me say, that no always are

when there when there, when there is a a good It can be also a person It can be

also a person also a testimony of the Mr. Manuel and they're represented with different colors

I don't I remember what was the colors but also depending on the color of the flamas

is what that is what there is what there in the place yeah because also can manifest these

foegoes for gases naturales of the earth but we know we we know

we know we we use them in the kitchen, then it's the world,

so, then people say it's this, no see, if you've seen that when there's

when there's when there's, and they're like flashes. Ah, okay. That is a contact of minerals that

makes that it's like it's a way, and that type of manifestations also are presentes

in certain those spaces, and that you can't do you know, that there's a

money or that there's a person. my abuel us when we we were

when we were we're in we're in one of my he's like one of my little more we're just

we're he said I don't I don't I don't I'm I'm and I'm

and I'm because I'm like he said like they're like they're like a man so yeah

and he amma who's he's carbando ma and that my my father said

nobody and I don't think he said Manuel call you, call it, you're crying. Amma, someone is to paliando

here atras. Amma, someone's not, and she, my dad, they were my tio, and that's

there were my behind the house, and then there was a little bit of a patio, then, no, no,

no, we'd get to and we're again, and he was, but my mom,

my mom says that she, she'd see, to hear, but he since he said,

he said, someone, he said, someone, he said, me, I remember, it was in the, it was of the lading

like with a pure load, the wall, and she was like, oh, ma, and I'm, and I'm,

he'd be, a man. Oh, and he'd be a bad, and I'm, he'd be a man,

someone's scarbando, I said, my mom to be a because he said, he'd say, oh,

and I'm, he said, Mom, no is nobody, and they're not, and they were my mom,

my mom, my mom, my mom, I said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm, but,

I said my mom. But, but he, I never never did for escarval, but he he said,

and my abuel, after that said that there, the husband of him, there said,

me, my, and I said, my, I said, she said, I mean, he took to

get, the same, I'm going, and I'm cut out, and they said, oh, my abel.

But, but, not there was nobody, I said, and, apart to not to hear

nothing more. No, nothing that's that was that that's, that's the day

that's the day. That's the way, that's going to that's a lot of the but my abelah

and then never nobody had said my abel that they had said my he'd that he

heard that the little did that he he said yeah and he he said

that he he said that he's he took to be the he he took to he was exactly

an 24 we were to the we were you and he and in the pure corner there's a

bigot and when we were he said hey what you do you know what you

he's he's got to the house but I was he said and he he went to go

I go I go to he went he went to get to he got he was he was

he was rogo rogo rogo rogo rogo rogo and mom what you what you don't see

I said I I said I You have? What you have? Yeah, until that's the he passed all, he said he was a

dog. It's that was a little bit of my mom said, he said, how will be there's

a little? Yeah, Amal, there's a there's, there was a little rojo there

had the eyes, and no, he had the so, he said, he said, my mom,

he said, my mom, and after the last the last he said, my mom, he's

he took to be to be the man, he said, my mom, But previously

had been, had been, he had been a, he was a , he was a man, he was a

no, he was not, we're not, we're not, we're doing my mom, in the house,

not so, it was so it's so, it's a very, so, so,

so, so, that, that, that's, that, I mean, I'm

that I'm that I'm, that we had many there, there was much, there, there,

and it was the , and it was the , and it was the he went

in the way he was he he was he he was paralyzed

and he no not, he no the only that was that he

was to go to and he he to be a time to be

to talk and to talk us what was that's pretty pretty

that yeah I'm he's you're you're you're you're

you're you're I'm I'm sure and I'm I'm I'm he's

I'm he's me had, I said, I said, she said, I said, he said the to-

and we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, so, who's, we're, and I'm, I remember, that's the time,

but, as I said, my father, and I'm a boa-bendita in that the corner, the corner

of the corner of the house. Yeah, and it's where I'm where I'm here. Oh,

so, so you're very impressive, something, something, something else? Some, something else?

No, I think you no more. I think there's much there have to tell you to talk about. Yes. Well,

we'll have to talk about in other program, in other capitul. Oh, you know, that's what you're

going to be stories quite important. Very, very good stories for normal. Well, well,

well, good, but to hear of the to hear them. To hear them. To hear hear them,

so I'm very for time to come to thank you. Much thanks of you thank you.

And I hope no, is that we're talking. No, yeah, I said I'm invited when I'm going to come. Yeah, yeah we're going. Yeah, there's a lot of there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's been her husband. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'm interested. Yeah, when I'm sorry. You know, I'm going to and you're all right. And you're you're and you're all right. Thank you. Thank you. To. I'm I'm

very much to my friends of the relato for present for present. For help us in the

production. Muchism thanks. No, you know, in the next chapter of M.

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