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Episode Date: August 30, 2024

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And, de re-oho, I mirroo I looked at the front and I gotre and I started to open, and I started, that's, that's, that's, that's that I'm gonna a black in the

mancha nebred. And I was, and it was a monito, a monito. And it was debarated, because I'd many things,

one, two, three, four, nine monitos were put on the frasketo. It was the first of the

coffee, the boat, it was 2003. So, it was like, 20 years. Yeah, yeah.

And if it I was a little a family, and in a little one of the little bit of a little bit of a mukeet. With the most of the stomach. He was an unbarasada. He was an barraiser. Of a woman, offering to her baby and a

his son, a baby of six months, and the child of three years, to have you to have what she wanted, offering them to the demon. How can you can't to offer your kids for something, as banal as the money or power? The palo may I remember.

I don't know the name. A saint. Yes, a saint. But he thought that was very powerful, more powerful. That was for a politician that when he put in his house,

in the, at the corner of the house, he putsion in the house, and that was a pest that was out of the gandarilla. It was a pest insupportable

because he had enrocioused with blood of all also down. A work where had a toady a woman used,

a preservative used, and the photo, where the amante, I imagine that was the amant, piddling that she separated of the parents,

that the wife, that the children were to go to the other world, to get with all, that the man, all the

person, had money, had money, but more than was the courage because the manned- and the manned

saying that he was a little bit, when I discovered that was a casta, it was

a caprico too. Saludus and well the people, of the new chapter,

of MEDEW with Jesus of Nazareth Martinez In this occasion dear followers newly from Coolycan

Sinaloa in this occasion we're with the good friend Puchas TV. Good a nightchance

thanks for invitation. Amigo you thank our good friends Relatons of Luna

Jena me said you have you many good stories. Some good

good I hope and you be interesting for you for all the

people that people that see thank Thank you. Before to start, we affirmation that

the world supernatural is more real than the world natural. You think that is so?

That is. It's more real than what imagine the people. Although much people don't believe,

exists, and is it. And it's that. When I ask me that, you think, that has

passed for some difficult, that have to be with the about the thing supernatural or paranormal? Yes, some.

Very strong. What do you have to tell me? Well, the first. First, it was when I had around of five or six years. He was presented my abuelo, paterno,

and a fallecedo. I, I'm in the center, and it was at the midday, we'd go to two parientes, and in Pue, where's a catechartaral,

is a psalis, for the case principal of Kuliacan, that O'Regon. And we'd went to my he was the man, and he's a man who

they're in the boy, I'm going to my father, it was unconfundable, the gentleman, the man, to the

barb, to the arm, and I went to and then I did, and then my man, you know, when we're

when we're we're going, and we're a little, and he got to a six years of a

man, but your old old a man, a, characteristic of him. Yeah,

characteristic of him, delicate, Alta. You were you a little you? And never

you've never to see? Yeah, no. That was your first

experience for normal. And, so it was something that you did it

a child, a little that was the first that was

my impact but you? But, I love the thing

I'm like, I do you do you do? I'm because I

feel that some many a lot of entities that know they're that's

they're at the person to this plan and they're to do do you do that I'm

do you try to help them to help what you do you do what you do you doversions

urbanes I'm liberate and I try to give to the people that's

to turn to come and they're to be to be that's that you're doing

that's to do druggeria paloma Yombe Muruma chanteria. And since when

you're doing and liberating I've been in a year but from the 14 years, always started in cemeteros was met with my

secret in family not know because they were to reagania me gonna yeah, I'm gonna

yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be at the 14 years and then I was 14 my people

I'm getting to bring the parades in the cell in the house yeah and now that's

before I was a year well, yeah I started and, well, so, if it was the regano but, okay,

then so, like, you know, you're going to a pantheon, does a recording, but you're

exclusively with workes, so you go, I go to the recorrivedo, and I'm to looker into recovecos,

tombs in rinkones, for where you can, to look at a job, I've never,

a, a tomb to profaned what I can get with a man with a bar or with

that's I'm never, I'm put in a respect. Yeah. Well,

those who use in the bruheria there are profaned. Yeah. And what

is the most that you have found that you consider that you

think you that you think it's a grotesco or quite feo

like. Start the third video that I I'm Those are three-corpos, three-corpos, and some of them were

liquids, lichios, pañalers, they had monot of buddhous, they were some of them, and they were so it was so

they're so photos, and they're and they're and they're all, but they were mojad,

so they were to be able to and to becky and just when we started we've got to get and then

they're going to talk the porton of the cemetery and no vented lights and they're

and they're and they're and they're we're to cross the cemetery to escape. But there

as refer to what they were those people of people? Yes, of people.

Some people. There were three different and I checkable and no

concordable there. There were many irregularities and there and I

said, if they're work so all the thing they're apart

all the all the all the part of the person has been to be the person

the and the house but they're more cochinero but and the

aspect of the muhoku was was a was a was a was a

kind of with an lot of and I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm a part of the other

person. Because in the filetia also. And apestoso. Three bottles of liquid Okay, yeah I understand. So, that's, that had, uh, that's, yeah,

and people. Yeah, manches. Ah, very strong. Imagineate. I started to grab the third video that was, and that

apart, is something for the people that came, because, many people see, to get to, and even,

I'm, but so so I'm pussed to do more to know that the

maldd exist and that could deliver to help you see you know you know

you know ummar is for me is of the most

explorators that there in the thing paranormal and there in

some occasion it was me kind of that he

was that he he did he was he he he

found a work with fruit with a a lot of things so super-limpy,

or a thing exaggerated, great, that seems like a dispense, like a, in reality, it was an offrenda, not you have come to find out of something like? Of, no. No? ...sienta coutines.

So, see, they've been more grotescoes than, that, good. Yes, yeah, because, here I've found much sacrifice with animals. Ah, much santaia. No, santeria. I've encountered,

gullettos, pollo, Gallagittos Chinese, of those of Pygmeil, Caves of pork, of pork, of, of chivots. A little, too, too. And in those, what kind of situations are more that that's seen?

So, they're only in photographs. Photos, cabell, uons, wets, liquid, and, I've found

what more they've He's more they've trailed, those clas, cards, saying all what they're,

I found one that was a guy who was a a girl offering a

baby, and a son, a baby of six and the son, he's

to have to get what she he wanted, offering to the demon to the demon,

to the demon, for power, for money. How you can't try to

offer your children for something as banal as the money or or power? No, if there's

there. So, that is a strong. It's very. And, apart,

some, others that you have impacted, ah, of this, Omar, had

encountered a work of a vulgaria that I went to a baby, but the

representation of the baby was a a muke. Ake. You've have you encountered something? I found

I found out of a month there's a panteon that's a point of I'm sure that's

sure I'm not a time three times a time three days and I'm three days and

I'm a attention and I always always because I'm a little

little on the piece on the base of cement and like that's

and it and always was always and never and never and never and that time

I was and I was and I'm I'm I'm I started to open, and I started, that's, that was that I looked at a seque, and mirrored

a mancha negras, and it was a monito, a monito, and it was barrapped, because there was many things. One, two, three, four, nine monitos were in the frasquita. It was the Fecha of the Coffee, of Bote. It was 2003. So, it was, like, 20 years. Yeah, yeah.

And, yeah, and so, it was, a whole one family, and in three, they were a little one-a-a-moiequita, well, the most, like in the stomach that's that's an embarrassed and that's

me impact because I mean destroyed a whole a family for what would say

I said I had my conclusion a herencia a herensia and the same my family

for to get her with everyone for care with all the family and I think that's family

if she died so for 20 years and that's those rask never never

The supernatural of the case is that you exploring diariously, never seen that. That no. And he was, he was, I, and the frasco was a cup of coffee. And the liquid that had been chained a sarah with a sarro-blanko in all the front. So, so, that's, that's, it's, that's, he consumed the liquid. And they were the monito, and, look, a one-one. And, were, they're new monos. And with clavois and el-ferre. The monos. Two monitos, each one. And the, and the, and the, and

the impact was the mukees that was there symbolizing like I was embarrassed in gestation and that was it was good fiatte that for there we talked about this ah, of actually was with Candy, that the major part of the work of brujeria, not always come of the enemies, of the family. You, that is explorator and you take

to those questions, do you, do you confirm? Yes, it's of much, normally the 90% of the I'm going to I'm going to find out of my envisied,

although you don't get nothing, even you don't say that you're not going to that's

well, that's there's a well, no it's a phrase, it was a clip of video

where said a person no, no, no is that he's not that

he's that person, it's that I'm that I'm want to that I'm I found out of the

job, a little, a little, a frasquito like, they make the moustra of an

time, and it was a time, and I don't put a attention because it's tapas, and this day

they're on the lamarada grand, and we didn't we did, because we heard we're

the shi I'm going, and it was a photo of a man, and it was one of the two of the

chachas, I know, I know, I'm, and so, I said, So, so it's It's a

He was a He was a He was a Facebook To make a Facebook, to make the thing, Narrow the

Yeah, so, mark them, and say, markle, I'm gonna, mark it, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, we're,

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna , I'm gonna do, the raros

that I'm to do you know photos to to my, to my, to my, to me, to say,

and in the state, and who can who can't the family the family

family. I'm for so I'll say I'll give to my friends not show photos in the radio social

because if they want to there's there's there's there's there there

talking about about some we're some people in common that they are at

the distance with photographs and number for to sanar for sanar

for to do to exactly exactly equal with a

photograph and with a man, they can't do. You know, you know, when you're doing the explorations, they're regularly, normally, normally a 90% of the night.

When I go with doubts or that no, they don't me leave in the Panteon to work, because there's people, I go to the other day to look at,

I'm going to get with the spinita, but I'll take. So, when you passes for a place and you say,

like, like, here I see something, I'm, like, I'm they're, that they're to get to

get to, that get Then I'll go. Who can't The brus, the people who are there or viciousos

that are they're going to have gone to get rid of equipment, many of many times I don't

if I question I, but when I go to the work, the pantheon salvrota

for the energy, I imagine that for the energy that I see they've

been agred and have been tumbled, me have been tumbled me have me have

been agred with you they have heard, in the in the the

editions have have said, you're you, let's have to pay, bett. The same

the witch, the witch, there's I've been to get to work, and have gone lechusas,

have been not gone, have been one, they've been two lechuses, in one of the time,

when I was a santa murder, when I made two lechuses, in the palmara. We passed for a

here, and a man, a man, a little bit, but that this time me gave me a cat,

too, very rare, so we went to be to a rancho, and as that we got us my

peter's my and came the cat and I'd go to the cat who would be to get to

the cat and I'm to get to the other. When I went to get with the cat's off

and then when they were when they're so interesting. Fiatty I'll tell you

a story is very short but I'd like that at final me

did you something that you know, that this person that was made

the story so me made quite known. This person was dedicated to do videos very amateur

of exploration urban precisely in pantions and in one occasion this manchish who's encountered a work of brujeria that no see what was the finality. The case is that in that he grabbed the video

grabbed the burglary, the tomb where had been all this and when it resulta that it's up to the media, it's super viral the video

because as when you see a lot of a thing because the people

the people when he does that the job a a

a brao a contact with him in his and he says

ohyes no you know you know the job that

that that that work that was so was

much time dedication energy and like to you

to you no, it's not going to be you're going to pay. So, this man

he made that's made that video, and after of that, he said, ah, ching a

you, he said a woman, but resulta that after a time, they're

they're to get to pass things rare in their house, that

start, things that's that's then when he was that the thing was in serious

of part of the menace of that she was he was and the video also

he was viral where he said to say to the sir for

favor please please me I know I was I was

I was I'm quit me all this that me all this that I'm

promise not to do something I know in what he

was in he was was super desgasado, flaco, ogeroso. Yeah. I want to

think that you, in your explorations, has yet has gotten to desacere one and that you're in a place that

can get to be known. So, I think you can be identifiable. No, they've

even to have come to menacear as well as the case that I've been am

a man I was a menaceous. In a In a while I'm in a Inabolato, for to do, we were to We were to do

the parlias a pantheon that's just two kilometers of a road, for a So you get to the pantheon, and if there's a

place, we did we're doing the exploration, I encountered the job, I started to do it, and the rome and the russes

the error was that are grabbing in the live and they did all the the signals. complete, enfocated the photos,

all the job, and a one of the other day they said, oh yes, I know the

person, and they're to talk to the person and the and the two, a person,

to be in a couple, to be a to separate to the fall to them, and they

they're and they're not, and they're not, that's, that's, that's, that for the

par, the par, the, oh, well, well, that's, well,

that, well, that's, well, well, the other day me,

I'm gonna be the video that's gonna be the video of that's that's that they're going to

do you that's no more than no more than they're saying oh, I'm gonna be the manned to be

the manned to do you the most probably because if you know the the the

the the paris that's that you be insistent all the day all the day

all the day all the day I'm saying well let me let's let me let me

no problem that let's let me let's be and I was I kept with that all the day I went

to work to work to get a question, I said, they said, they're on a

video of my man, me said, no, I said, no, he said, no,

that's the no, that's, no, I said, oh, I said, I said,

in serious, me said, so, because, no, is that they're, they're,

because they're thinking they're they've been they're doing because, oh, I'm going, and they're

we're they're not them were they're not, And it resulted that that day that they were talking, was when they started here to get to get people, after like, two months

that put fire, okay, and the young people were in a lot of a lot. So, then it's very little. A little, it's two months? Ante, Semana Santa? Oh, no, man, if it's,

that are things quite, most common. About what we know what we call in the channel terror of the life real,

so that not always has to be with the terror paranormal. No, I've got to be, well, Kuliacan, we know that is a little conflictive in certain cases. No, it has yet yet to happen that

in one of these explorations you get to find out of persons that are living? Yes, yeah, it took. Me took on a desquessarer of car. For the costera. We're doing an exploration, and we've

three just, no, ma. We did an expression, well. We did we have an operation, a lot. we have like a hour pasted it when we're from the caravan't

a caro down at a caroenaed and so you're back down by and I'm and I go

and then there's and the young no, well calmados no

no so no we're doing they're they're back

and they're getting and they're grandototet grandototte grandotot and they're

with his with their arms what are that's what are nothing.

So, we're doing it. For what? For what we're saying? You want to? They want to see? Well, I was put in the Cerro, that

and that's they're going to and they're all right? And I said, oh, well, we're to go to

and we're and we're saying, they're the people that's that they're there that's there.

Oh, okay, they're they're going to do? Yeah. No, I'm seen, you've seen, of an exploration orban, super

amateur, then, then, those people who are in a little, they're in, they're in, they're up, no, I know if they're sues, or so they're not, they're up, or so they're, a house, like in an O'Brien. And, of a sudden,

they're going to hear and say, oh, look, a, look, a phantasm or something. But, resulta that when they're going to come to the house, they're going to someone armadled

of the, the hands, and so, after, and in the piece and see a charco rojo

so they're they're playing a problem or something and it's a little and he

starts to do in the his so my man no yeah when he

he's well he's the he's the let's let me

let me let's I think I think I'm that you don't you don't

have seen no you've been It's a, it's a very strong, it's a very very strong because I'm

a maniatado and, and, and then, they're just they're there, imagineate.

It's that very common. For this side, it's a lot, it's, too, much, too,

I don't have much of to defend, I'm, I know, I'm from every thing, but so, so,

are things quite complicated, things difficult, things that you have talked in some other

explorations. I, me took that they were, they're they were going to a man

into the panteon and we were in they were like a man who were doing it

and they were doing to do you and then a little we were a little back and

there was there there was what was where they were when they were there

was used that was that you always always I get to I'm I'm

I'm another two two chases and or or no I'm

reposal. Yeah, some responsibility. And a video not a little

to risk the life that's in the life that's not going to get to get us.

When when it when it when it's people people, I always I'm going.

To avoid avoid bronques always always always. Not the

value the fendate that in some when when we when we know

when we when we're when we we're when we're we're other people as

like you. I have got various various relato where me are that in

the articles or images or images religious or a saint, a Christ a San

Judas Metsen the workeria in those images. No, you have

to be something? No. In the work of the images religiousas

no. No? No. And not you have to offer the The work of

a certain deities? Ah, yes, yes, yeah, so, like,

as a life, to be the life, to see, to me have to

a entity, that was the palo, and the man, I don't know,

I'm a saint, a saint, but he was that was that was more

powerful. That was was for a political. Ah, for a political? For a

political? That when was in their house, in the the house, in the corner, he put on the

heads of animals. Oh, no manches, that's that's, if they were working, so, they're a pest that was out of the ganderias,

it was a pest insuppable, because he had been roceded with the all down, it was very very,

that was, why, because it was that's, so, because, not, other type of

Brugia? No, so, it's a rarro, not? It's rare. It's rare. It's a

One that this is me impacted because to what we is the same family I'm a man

a man that's that his husband began to and he was a tearita

of the and he still tocied and more and it still doing the

days until he he said after he said he said he said

that they were with someone and they did they did they did

they did they're they're that in the tomb of his father for the or the other and say

you know you do you poachas if you do I'm going in serious I'm going to go grab

for respect to you know to do you I'm going to and I'm and they said for the tomb and all

and said for the contorn of the other side because the other side is there scabbe scabes with a

with a with a metro for I'm no way I'm going to I'm did the time

was at the the time and the And when, when they said to me, that's, because he represented to the person that's,

because the mom brothers were they were in the lapid, and they made in the job, the lapid, and they met him the job of the

brother there. So, so, they met him money to, for, to destroy, destroy, and

to, get to, to get a to have a right, to have been to be in and to

get into. And you, to open? Yeah. It was a frasco, great, with a

liquid He had photos of him, cabello, he had a, like a collarsito, like a guardpil. That he

had been that he had been that he had had been a slave and I

remember the other things. It was great. There was family, was.

Because that that's a guardapel that he had to be his papa, the he had

and he had him, and no he no he no he was a family. A family.

A family. We're a family. It's Furt. Addentro of the Dumbba To the

side of the side of the man they're in part of the cranes

yeah imagine that I'm that I'm that's I'm so they're up

to the into the tub in the taut to we're We're

that abris how they're how they're they're I'm I'm

I'm I'm but I was violated the the taud

they they're they in a chambon. Yes, there, there, there,

to damage, no more. Tantto courage. Tantto courage. I consider that also

the other the work that are often are found are they're that are

that are that are that's the Santa Morte. Here, I'm supposed that's

I'm supposed to be a lot of the people in a pantion of the

most grand Kuleakhan that we're doing exploration and we we're seeing the exploration and we're we're to hear us and the and the perrots and we don't make

those perrown. There I, I started and in the tomb I encountered two frasquitos and I began to bring and do frasco the Santa Morde and I began to open and when I began to open up there, I began to get air and then Iudiate the perros and I'm incad and doing the

and doing the oration, liberating and the young, we're just five to that time and in that I I heard of and then I hear of a little to run

and then they're in and they're they're they're and they're I'm still I'm

heard of a but I'm but not there's and I'm and I said and the players

and I went to and I'm to come on the little on the little bit

and I'm and lading and lading and lading crossed all the cemetery and and I'm

one of the one of the many of let us when we're in the area of the and you know, you can't see the

rizade of a baby and the perro disappears. The pizade and the adrede. That day one of the muchos

I don't want to do. Because to here I go I'm. Well, it was impressive the

and the pherrolete and augue and I was me quittable and I was and I was and I was

and I was to get to and I'm there were in some work? If they were two

two jobs of St. And those were they were to be a couple and a woman a major.

Because they'd have a photo. A one major. They'd photos. But the woman, see, and I'm here, like they're in, like, or petona, for the dinners. Ah, of the dinners. Well,

well, I don't want to say, the only meas, but, at the more, really, yeah. Oh, la man. That's another. Deamante, me

encountered various. Those are, kind of grotescos, because, well, to me, only, I just to be a, where a woman, not I can't say where, but a woman,

mando to do a work where he wanted to separate a man to her husband, but the form of separate them was attacking to the children. So, what he wanted was to to get to the children and then, then, then, to the other world. And, but, unfortunately,

well, no, no, soceded, because they did many things there. So, but the grotesco of

the work was in that the woman metia also, well, what I mean me explained,

he had liquid rojo, but of his zone intimate. Period. Uh-huh.

So, very grotes. Very very. Very grotes. Very what is what you have

encountered. I've encountered. It was a a job where was, a towel

feminine, a bussada, a preservative used, and the photo, where the man, I imagine

that was the man, and I'm asking that she separated from the wife, to the wife,

that the people, that the other world, to get with all, that the

man, all the person, had, had, he had money, but more

than, the courage because there's the the manned, he was saying that was a little bit,

when I discovered that was he was caught, it was capriced too. Yeah, well, if she not

was, the family, well, the husband, or the person, is the

man, but I don't, when they get them with people, so, the

preservative, to the , down, because at where they're to get, they're,

they're, they're, I mean, I've found two three of three of

preservatives. Oh, yeah? Yeah, and what you've found? For the preservatives.

I've encountered cabellos, robin'er used. Yes, are very common. Usades. I've

encountered twas feminines, dents, or a placat also. A dentadure.

Uh-huh. Dehame a mollache the person. A dentadoer. Fiat me, I, I,

I don't have many many many many many people, I'm much. But I

accompanied to my friends of podcast extra normal to the Puntil. That's not,

that's not they're in the video I don't know because they're not they're there,

but there there are some there are also to do you in the people in the

men so that so, so we're not, so we're we're just we're just to a

cost of the river. But that comes the member. Ah, but there's where it's

where it's where it's where it's where it's the interesting. the job

completetito but part of the part of the part of the nature like if form a part

of the work and you have to count that they got the hand the

the carson and he was in the cactus so in instead of put

to put clavos and the lot of the cactus those those

those enganched and all the the work of the carlos I never never had

seen something no no and we've we've got to that's the place in the place retakado

the time yeah it's too that's yeah you're yeah you're

yeah it's yeah it's yeah when when I took to hear no man

something yeah and the yeah and the beer is and the and there

the brucs see on the brucous you don't know those crore It's true. Crossed

a street. It's true. Yeah, that's me made interesting and

in my life I've seen. Of the the work you've got to have got to

find out there there's there you think that you never more you're going

to ever to find so that that's that it was, that you say,

no, man, this, well, I'm he, and it will be

to repeat because it's too rare. Yes, and I don't think I can't and I don't

I'm going to I'm in when I did I did it and I'm the page me

me let I'm a bird a cochita a ha ha

he's psalas and he's retackado oh abuel abuel

the the children nietos all and and he had with

the organ animal but was cooked and the boca of the the CERD, also co-cida, the paces, the psalis, as

like they've put to mark as an animalita. As a symbol, like sigilos. Yeah. And gusanado. It's. It's a very, that's. Yeah, it's a very,

yeah, and that's a very, and that's a feree. And that's from a panteon at Kincol, here in the Puro, near the city of universitaria. Mm-hmm. not you

do you know, that that know, at the first yeah no. I know.

I know to do not well, to the people, well, but the other people

but not. But, no, I think that's not, but, and when you get

to find to work there are photographs, and information of the people

attacked, not you have done the task to investigate who are? Yes, have been

have been got to and many people yeah not are. Okay, when you

when you do you know when you're not there and there's there's and there's and there's

and I said me can't say, I'll say, and say, and say, and I say the

and I see the where you're because I find with with the and if the people

go and me give the money, I don't the money, and I don't know when

when they're when they they're So, you know, they've been, they're

not they're to say, the of the sure, it's the mother was this

my god oldie in my old, that's I'm saying, you know,

I'm not, well, I'm going to know, I'm not going to get to

not out of because yeah, but I found so, I've

encountered, too, he's a bit too, so much a bit amarradito, and I started

to desacare, and when I was to desacare, and when I was just a few cabellos. And, and I was with a clavo encasado, all a good, like if were the

computia of empalado. Uh-huh. It totally was good. When, when you do this type of, well, when desaces the work,

those, you do, just only so, there's, or do you do some type of ritual? A,

A ritual. I always. I do a bantan, I do a ritual first. Always. So,

for not to take me nothing, and I'm to give me to get to there. And if in

when I'm doing the person to do it. Never was the word. Never was I said,

that I'm did it. But so, try to care me. And so you know, when you

doves when does it. All I'm all the ritual, no, the or go to go to an or a

or a or a clean to get to get to let us to get us it

it's evident that the panteon it's they're to give them to give us

that you think they're you think they're with the place or that

to give that they they're that put with the most it's

with the because many many of they're they're they're they're

they're in the job to to To be the mortals, it's for potential to, much of the time. Much of the time,

almost all the time of the world, are at the, they're at the head of the dead. Yeah, almost. Those that I've

encountered have, I think. I think it's for that the more force to to the, and apart

all this is much faith. All this does all this does work with faith. Yes?

With I, you this, this, this, this of this, this,

that if is with the the of the place, if it's with the people, for the

question of that at your ritual of, I suppose that's a ritual of protection and all

these situations and to ask you to the people, when you to give to get to

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, to get to be

to be able to be in peace. They're invading, so, they're in their

space, yeah, So, in some of this situation, no, not you have

to be, like, for example, you go to a place, and of a time, and then,

that's what that's what I'm going to do go to the operation, and I feel like,

I'm going to get to the work, and it's when they're I'm I'm

that you're to be mortito? I've talked much, so, I'm that I see

to do the operation, and I'm some rio and I go and I

go. And when I'm there's the work. Sure. But

many times when they are still is that is the vandal all the but there

there are many of there because I'm took one and I was doing

the exploration and I found a job and I know the people

we're starting if it's that we get the we're going to and what I go to

go to see the barda there me let me call it. Ah, you're a little. If you had to be, I was in the table, I'm gonna'n't do you.

They're a little bardita and fudge. Nah, those are just meadows, because, well, they just were just they're just forced on to get and... Yeah, they were not even they're in... Ah.

...sendezer in... ...sconters... ...ssegiense... ...are bruchos malus that are in their work. ...are... ...are... ...or...

...or much as in the brujo... ...mander... ...manned... the job or man to chalan. Because I me took one of the pantheon for the back and we went to two chasions that came

with me and they gave to a man for a little bit more than, and I said, and I got back and I was gonna go to and I was gonna be, and he was gonna be my friend,

and I'm gonna'n'clock ah, I'm just gonna'n't I'm just, I'm just gonna and I'm gonna be like this rio, that's, he's, he didn't, we went, and when we went back,

parrace, but I said, Departate, they were, they were, they were, he was, he was, and the

manned to the panteon, and he left, and I was, I was, the gruco, or the he had helped.

A bit, a question. You've seen much a work grotesco? Yes. Super negative. In

some occasion you've been in the panteon with a mortito, DENTERR, some a new project positive?

One of the Which is? It was a cross with monedas. They had no cymbulos like of an infinite

and what they were to be considered, the one was the only positive? All are for that

all the people. All those are those who I don't know on not than anyone is more

than that is more than attention because it was a cross grandisim and had pure monaditos

to that they were subpoenaed of dominations and they'd even up to quoritas of American American.

It's the only fiatte because I'm I'm I'm my mom

was a book she was that was that never

I said but she did the work black

in the house and some of those those to

the pantions to the work's black we're we're talking to

work for liberate a person of other burgheries or for to make the famous

abercaminos and all these things so I never the companyed the pantheones

but so me took to know that this was that because the

question of that you had to count that had I'm a messas as

like this and there had all his the work. When we're

we're we're some of the house, we're just some of some of adolescents and in the

morning, you know, we're not were in the jobs, we had to do not to be

to be time. When we we'd we'd be that we're not there sometimes

for the plattics that I had one of my madrinas, that they were to the pantions.

But curiously, because we're our, uh, uh, so that curiosity of, to know what

was what was doing every one of the work. And at the more also she had a little of what she

realized about for that we'd learner us, us said that was what was it. So the grand majority

that were in the house, I know that also did a job, but never was in the

case. They're they were to help, to benefit, or to liberate. So, she was to the

pantheons. If, there's, there's not, no, no, no, no, no,

there's much to prove because, because, well, he's, he's a time,

you're a question, you're probably, that's that of the monies. It's the only,

I've been found, so, there's, so, there's, so, there's,

there's, envy, courageous, that marches this planet, the people. Pure, maldha. Pura. Fidgette, in some moment, also me mandatoran a story with that I also

felt very identified, of a kid that had a mal of amory, well, not was a mal of love, a man, a man, he was a man, I was, he was, he was, I was,

obsessed with the popular of his school. So, this muchachia, well, said that no, not was his alcan. So, then he said, my mom's going to be able to say druggery. Well, I'm going to do a marre. So, that's, that

I'm feeling identified, utilizes energy of the Santa Morty, for darles potency to the work. But if they want to give more potency still, then, then, this muchach would have to do's do a job at one. first

I was to separate a a pair of this chick that's that was the reina of the preparatory

or something and then was going to make a marre with the muchach so

as it so she was that the energy of the not he

did fruit and he went to he was to

realize the time he went to the first gavet

that he got some he and marro the

photographs that that they were they're in well rota pegas with

but don't know the back and he was a ha ha a

here the question is in that passed some days if

were some and there was there was a moment in that went

in a vehicle the pair this chok and fall

the no of the much and this chica, it was a

very, very, but very, very, so, he said, I'm

there's a little was in interned, and curiously, in this hospital, I was,

a woman of the mother, or a man, I don't remember well,

I'm in how it, then she says, oh, oh, yes, for

let me pass to let me the man, it's my my friend,

then, then you don't, how you can't let's let's let me

pass. No, me let me see me see her. When it's past, well, she impressioned to see how she was with a tube fractured. Or, yeah, mal, we're

so, then there was, the man. So, he said, no, well, what was, what was,

that was, that's going with her mom, mom, no, I, know what was, and the

woman was, and the woman, and the person, and the person that was attending. You know, if

if you want, come to make a morning, no, I need to attend this this,

it's what I'm a little that I'm not going. Oh, no, you're when the

she says, what you try is, what you say, what you make, because,

I just said, I said to make, make me, the Santa Morte, no,

me, I used, I'm Murt, no, the woman, the

but, but, she chinga, and he said, c' what you

you know you're not you're not you're not you're not the same this year this is

we need to we need we're desacel because if that that that much also that she's going to

then there he's he he's all right to the panteon where where do where do you

the manochie you just I was then look the buskela buskele

but after that with the tomb he has to when he he's

he made the photo what he got the vessel to get to the

into and he went to the front so when he was he was he said

the mom what happened he said no is that mom it's just that's that's

that no me important now he's he he was he was

he was he was he was imagineate all pestososos this manch who he's

he makes he's he's he's the one of the photographs that were

being the little were the manned were they were they were

so that never did so so so then they

did to do this to to desacable practically and the much

she's a much That's fortissimo. It's fortissimo. The

people know what is a marre, a nuisance all the consequence that you

can't get to get a little to you know, and you and you can't

to get us to get to get to you because you're too, you can't

gettard and not can't gettard so it's even like the famous

tolach that they can't and you can't and you the love

the obsession of the of the Toloaches, well, I don't know if can mention the word, you know, can't mention Candy, you know, you know, do you know?

Yeah. So, yeah. Well, we'll, we'll have, we'll have problems. But, well, it's a, one,

it's a, it's a chemical, it's a chemical. So, my mama, that, that, so, never was participes,

to give, to do things to make, never, nothing. Yeah, and so, and, and,

so, of situations, that has no to have nothing to be with the poloache. It's a chemical that

when you do they do in a dosis in a tea or in a coffee, this, it provoked

changes cerebrals, dares so. So, it's certain, it's

that when you do do you you're going to be more calmado. Ah,

and they're to them to them they're more, or they're

they still pass, the of the age of Jesus, no? No.

That's a natural. Oh, if this is natural? No, no, I don't

to believe. This then it starts, to the people, to all the people who are

this, very effusive those, they're, they're, to calm, to, to be,

but then then after these people, those are like they're like they

are like, so, it's, they're a bava, no control

their functions natural. So, so... Yeah, just they're... There's just that. But there is where we're where is the objective of the woman, or so,

why is it to be like to like that? Well, yeah, no, the woman. And I've found that also,

that's also, that's... Of the men, and of women, and the other, and that's... Ah, also?

Yeah, yeah, that's very, yeah, I'm very, yeah, of, yeah, of,

of, the, of, the, of, the, of, the, Bato with a bato, because of the...

Yeah, that's that they're attestined with the... With the... With the... ...withal of the... ...withal of the... ...withal of the... ...that's separated...

...and that they're saying... ...the fetechee of the member... ...ingrappened with the photo of him... ...that he's... ...that I'm gonna say, ...and you get to be here, my husband, ...and say... ...and so...

...and me found a batto-comet... ...and I'm gonna say, I said, I said, I'm gonna say, and if it was all and the photo and all and in the member the number completely of all ah yeah in the figurita of the member a figure outa yeah figureota yeah yeah yeah yeah is really of actually this i don't see if i want to think that

yeah in the tendas esotericas or tendas where vendin the articles for beas and all those situations Yeah, they're to sell figures of the members,

but of the animals. No, you've to have to see that? Well, I think

not you don't you have talked because me says that you think, you know,

it's, what is the destiny of the animalitos? You know, why they're going to

do that type of times? Because they're trying to try to that

people let's the people, they're animals. Yes, because fiatte that

curiously, some, well, not I want to say that all, so, not

not to be not fendor, but some those, exclusively they're

with that life innocent for a part little of the animal,

that between those could be their his apparatus

reproductor. So, so it's so it's so it's so

I'll tell you because in some moment I like to curiouser for there for the places where

they're there's things and I start all these replicas of their

apparatus of their apparatus of the animals but they're this is

of a venado this is of a perro or so of different

animals so then in one of that I just I I'm I'm

I a the tinder and I said, this is, this is,

I'm sorry, oh, look, this is that they're also they're using much in santaia

because a sometimes they can't only this partecita to the animals to do

their their and so so, then some of us for that they're

to be they're they're using a representation of and it

has the same but I think some that's so. No, want the other

the animalito? Because before it was a much, but in a better than the meritor, it was a person. Ah, yeah, precisely. And that's a lot... It's a other that I was. Yeah, you know, you said one that was a lot of

the beginning of these situations. But, you have to have to be a situation where the offerciment has been one like us? The other. The other, the

that I said the I said the lady and the baby ah, that was it had a

part organica of someone? No, not organica, no, but she she was

offering and she was the of the creatures, but the parts no,

no. If, is that what I refer to you, that you know,

animalito, yes, but yeah people, no. Or those, yes,

but so, so, so, the part, not. no no so it's it's a

very very but you think there yeah yeah yeah so there's

yeah there's there's much in in these explorations that's he's

you know you know you you know you some some some

that are so that are so that deities those that's found

that you have done that you to the devil exclusively, what is the most

feb that you've found out? That he'd cut them the life to the papah. For herence. So, with the peddle direct to

Yeah, the father. Of the daughter. Because, to what I understood, that the Lord

that he had separated the, how was, the sir, had separated of the,

of the, the mom for other, other woman. And the daughter had to have taken her And the woman had cut out of all, and he had

left us in the car. And he's taking the sir, because he was dying the sir, he got to the heresy of him. I golly. All right. Yeah, always the money. Always the money.

We have a small. And if it was a figure, a figure, a little bit. There's a, how, how, how to function? That's, of, is that's the point that we have we have to know that we have a

man who is satanic the abeyrano and he says that the demonio no can't well satanas not can invoccur in mexico for questions ancestrales

but that no can't invoke is one no, never I've asked but that they offeres can that other if it's an offerenda pa

well there's there there can't can't, no, well. What proceed? Yes? And that of satanism is, it's very, it's very, it's very, too.

Well, all the most no, no, so, you know, the devil here, but Lucifer or Satan? But, according to the devil, and Lucifer are the same?

No, they're not. The question. Here, can't do. But if you do in another part and you do you, it is?

No. According to that, is that to count that the invocations, yeah, of the demonos or of the diablo, presumptomently, no, no, me crean, to those who are

here, puthance to study it, but according to what we call, our friend, is that the devil, here, here, no can't invoked. Because there are some of those that are those people to do, the persons

to do these invocations, where does those demons that if they can invoccur in a territory like the our. So, all being about the

devil, we have the major figure this ancestral, negative, or how they want to

call, that exists, or that we know that exists. And presumptame only only can

be a invocation of in Europe and under certain requisites. So, but if

can do do invocations of demons, of demonios powerful. So, we're talking invocations

but if we're talking of offerings, then that's another thing, I'm going to because

there's doing an offerciement and it's a question is that if you're doing the

offerceiment or so go to go to go to get to get to it

that's that's where I'm there's where I'm the question you

what do you think? well, I don't know, it's more that's asteried perron

that the the devil to give a cause? It's like I say I'm going to I'm doing

the work. To be the death to make a cause, that's that that's

that entity is that yeah is that we're talking to a very, very a entity

the the Santa Morte there we're that has been a

great history also ancestral, but Mexican, if I could say, for the question of the Mayas, of the Aztecas, and all these

cultures, that are antiquesimas. No, you have to see that to the Santa Morty, they offer them,

this, animal and two? No. I don't. I can't me, I'm found the figureita with a

thing, but with animals, no. No, no. And that me respond to that, go, there you, I, well, I, I, well, I don't,

like to confirm it, but, um, what, what happens is that the santaia, the, the, the,

part of his, of those, of his, those, and, in fact, many, many of the

people, confunded, they're in the santa murder is part of the santaeria, and are

things totally different. This, regularly, what is in the santaia is where is where they're

the animals and in the question of the Santa Mewartre that's rare, rare that they're an

offer of that type. Very, very rare. When when you're doing these recurried

you say you're to invite to, are the people of your pages of

people? I'm invited to and people and normally me, I always

when I'm, I'm going to go, they're going, they're going, they're going? And at what pension? And at what? And at what? And then I said, no,

we're going to be all the day, at all the hour. Ah, well, I'm, I'm going to get after they're to get,

ah, that's that you're, we're going to, get us, we're getting the first, you, get in five minutes,

I'm, I'm, where they're going to start. I'll say, I'll say, for where where,

so, so you know, oh, you're, you get to, you're for here, because here, no, where you want to see, they're

and they're and they're scared, he's got to go, there's going to be in a door, and the man, and the

man, and the man, he was, and he said, and me, say, and me, say, and I said, wait a little, and then show

grinned, hey, here, there's there, we're, to go, to work to work, the job, and I was, I was,

anise, I and I was, and I go to go to work, and I'll get to go out of here, I said, entro to someone,

and I'm going to go and one, he hallowed the mochilla and a shot and the man, and the other man,

said that they said that they were back to me something, like a and a brum, and the one

of the man, he said, of the two. No, of the one, even, to the one,

and the one, and the other , assusated, yeah, we'll have to the chalet in the panteon, we'll see him a saba

with a new casino, we did it, and get to your house, let's get to this, get to getcha

and getcha. That's got in the hospital 10 days. A crisis nervous. She's a susto.

But why go in those places and no, if no, I, oh, that's,

well, the other me, the other's all, decrement. Some of of those

invited, never have met you have meted in problems? No. I always I always had one,

a man, that was not very well, and I said, no, no,

they said, no, that they said, no, that they said, pass a problem that one.

No, was, I'm, to know, to do you know, no, they absorbed

in all apart. No, so, yeah, much responsibility, to

get a person that, but, into comia, quarter. Between

commillas complete. Yeah, no, I said, and always so, but so

me have many people that are many people and they're going, and they're they're

they're and they know, and they said, they're when he came,

when he was a little a fracco with a little umbrose. Amario

so, the morts yeah, my mortits, yeah, me, more, they said,

what, they said, that, what, they said, they said, me have, but what they said? Well, me talked, no, much noise.

And, and tell, the fraspeda. And they've been, no, that's just that more, if you're saying, that's, yeah. So, yeah, that you, no, create, or not you've

lived, is other other thing. But, but if you do, but, the people, the people, and said, and said,

all this, and they've got impacted, not, to have been, to, many, many of many, and have

been, and have been, but they're, no, and I'm, and, no, and, yeah,

I'm, and it's, And it's the only way of this man that says that he's he's there that's the only that's put in a crisis nervous of that type. They were the only,

the one, the other were the other. And then they were, and then, yeah, no. Nothing. No. So, if all of that they're not going to do,

but so that you're to hospital, no. Accidentes, in the end of the pantions. Yeah, so, it's a man,

a tomb. So, that's, that, so, I went to do, so, they're in care where

they're in the stumbas abirted, not you can't come to when I thought when I was thinking no I'm

I'm looking and I'm and the manuel when I was around they're in the tomb yeah I

gotrary and I got a and they're a rajado in the nala uh

dispuntated they put it they're no he didn't not he he's justo he's gonna

he's gonna he was he was he was I said, I cut, no, not you

cut, when I was like I was so, but I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get in the manned, oh, all the

all the manchated, but I'm and I'm and I'm gonna gore the and I'm and the

ponds, or me suppose, that, with the policeia also? The police

not, no, here no, here no, let's, they're, they're they're

they're they're they're in a not that's open the door. Ben, me, said, no, come to you.

No, be asked, you know, go to ask you. No, well, come, I'm going to be able.

And I'm not going to be but they're but they're but they're one of the panteon. And we're

an exorraine. And I'm what's the do you? And so, and when me, I'm coming

more, the do you got to the door to the front and I'm the ponteon and is

a can't perdi was the dona. A can, I, and the doña, the doña, the and the doña, and I was when I was

there in a car in friega. And she re-seed the car and started to get to out of out.

They're having a job for the they're doing for the yeah,

and they're going to gore and and pointer too, I've been out of

putterer, me has been out of people, I've been gotroteed A,

Puck, Yeah, I agredia one a bit of a unste operation,

and he went to be in the other side, I just went to get to the tomb when I

went to I'm in the mochilla, me car to be the phone, lamps,

and the camera, and apart, he put two patas, he's for, but I

destroyed I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've got, I've got to have been

arrued, I'm I'm done, I'm with a runyadons of the back. I mean, of the

of the nothing. Of the nothing. I get to go ardient man, and

yeah. Aroon a agrass. Two times have passed.

I don't see if you have been there videos of some, I don't

I don't I remember what is the creator of content that I think

that even even no, but no more he's this class of

this much this he dedicated to go to pantions and to to show the tumbles of certain characters. So, as we know, here in Kuliacan, there are some characters

that pertaines in the gremio of the, of the people malos, that well, there, there are some

stumbas quite impressive if, here in these places, not you have to go to go to that

Pantion? Yes, I do know the Pantion, but to work, so, I'm not a tomb, are they, are not tomb, are, they're not domes, are, so, so, so, so, so many people, and, they're very careful,

and they're in, they're making a problem, because, well, they're people, and many of them, and many of them, that are those, they're there, they're custodied, the, of, the, of, the stumvents, and they're, to, and to, what you're, to, you know, to put

to, is, to put into, But, so you're, you know, and are cars with air-conditioned, salas, cell, to start, a-man-sion, is, one-mansions? So,

I mean, of the Panteon. And you know, why you know, of this man, because he went to the tomb of,

what was, of what character was? Well, but it was, if it was of a person as,

of those people, that the most known, of the most known, he, he,

he took video was his ultimate video in YouTube that I know so he's he

he's super viral but was his last video because no

so I'm so they did they did do you know and I don't go

to go to go to get to he but it was it was

the no no no no no I'm no

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be to me the market, or, you know, or something, can be, that can't be, to me,

to make a time, to me, to make, to me, to me, so, so,

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is the same, you're the same, you're the same thing that they manage. Yeah. Of Malverde, what has you encountered? Malvern's not. No. No, no. No, no.

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to be the more, get to the people, that are the people the most of the most of Mexico. Pedro Enfante. Oh. Oh. Oh.

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I thank you much for to talk about for this eventate this capitolo with me so me made

it's a great man you've got you've got to you know you're all of all of all the

last time that we'll talk that in some other other that we'd for a good

we'll end up that we're there's a more adventure there's there's no I'm imagine

if right right you're yeah you're yeah If, some place where you can see, where you can check your videos? Well, yeah, in YouTube, I have like the Pochast TV, and in TikTok is the Pochast TV 28.

There are the videos, all the things. Okay, so only there. There's only there. Okay. That's all right. What are what you're going to be there in your content? They're going to be, for the explorations, the liberations of the jobs, the Amar, that's it, and liberate people to help.

It's the function of my and the channel. I always say, it's to help to the people. That's why. To help, to liberate, that's the thing is the people for envies and coras.

Yes, is a situation a lot of heart, I hope that... To me, me, I'm just that all the things you're doing,

that always you do you do, that never pass something that bad, and, then, that's all the

I can say to all the people, that what they're in my channel, is it's really. No, it's not actuated, nothing, not mounted, I'm going to do, and what is that's all right, that's all right? So, so. So, so, for that many times, you think that

it's a fey a lot, no? No. No, I said, for interred that here in Culeacan, there's a much bitabuchery. Well, santaia, over all, but, but, yeah, if, if, I, I think, totally,

of these situations. You're very much. Also, that's. And to you, you're you. Thank you, thank you. To get us

to the final of this chapter. I'm completely sure of that you're just that you're not quite a

question. In the next chapter of more than the Nassar Martinez. We'll see. Until the

next. Cuisance.