Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 10: Do You Even Eat, Bro? Pt.3 The Schanz Files

Episode Date: June 12, 2016

     This week Professor Schanz gives us a look into his nutritional routine, and how he eats to stay jacked and tan. Austin gives some interesting tips in regards to meal timing, routines, post-workout nutrition, and when you should actually be drinking that first cup of coffee...      Give it a listen, and don't forget to LIKE and SHARE it on Facebook, and make sure you go to iTunes and give us a 5 star review!      Help support the podcast by visiting our ONLINE STORE HERE and buy yourself some Massenomics gear.      And if you enjoyed this episode, check out the rest of our ARTICLES HERE!

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet mass. All right. Well, we're live in the massonomics studio here. I'm Tyler.

Next to me is Tanner. Hey, everybody. Across the way is Tommy. What up? And for the first time, we finally, we found a way to get Austin, Professor Sean's on the podcast here. He's via a miracle of technology. Tell everybody hi, Austin.

Hey, how are you guys doing? We are doing good. So, it actually was kind of a long time coming. We were trying to find a way to get Austin on the podcast, and we didn't really want to do just the plug in the phone and end up having some really really shitty audio so it took us a little bit to figure this out so hopefully we have all the kinks worked out and it actually sounds pretty good so um anyway today we're gonna just catch up with austin on what are we gonna do the nutrition stuff since we've done uh we've kind of already

done two parts on the you know what the three of us eat and now we're going to let austin kind of tell us tell us what he does so it's going to be like a day in the life of professor sean it will be a day in the life of professor sean's so um i guess i don't know where we want to start austin but maybe do you just want to let us know like just what does an average day look like? And then we can kind of go back and see how maybe that's evolved for you. Like what's a breakfast look like? Yeah, so I guess I've never really been a big breakfast person. You know, ideally if I had my druthers, I'd probably eat twice a day. I would eat lunch and eat supper.

But because of the fact that I lift weights all the time, it's prudent to get more calories in essentially. So I do try to force myself to have some food in the morning. Usually it's either just a protein shake or lately I've just been having like seriously just taking a spoonful of coconut oil and a spoonful of almond butter and then just rolling with that. It's real simple. I'm not very hungry in the morning, and I can get out the door and head to work. It sounds like you're just going for easy fat and calories right out the door in the morning then. Yeah, pretty much. With the coconut oil, that's almost strictly a fat. And then the almond butter, mostly fat and a little bit of protein.

So I get a little bit of protein, mostly fat, and that's obviously a significant amount of calories because of all the fat in it. So simplicity, calorically dense, I guess that's just how I do it because I'm not very hungry in the morning. I'm not like Tanner. I can't eat a freaking dozen eggs. Yeah, he goes pretty hard in the paint at breakfast. Won't that fat just make you fat? Isn't that what happens? I don't think it quite works like that.

Okay. And then I guess moving on to lunch um usually i cook uh all my lunches on sunday uh for the week for the weekdays anyways so monday through friday um it's usually just a variation of uh some type of protein like chicken, fish, beef, and then I'll throw that in a slow cooker and have potatoes and carrots with it. Like I said, I pretty much just rotate the protein source through each week. And then along with that, I will have all the time, every day, cottage cheese, yogurt with some fruit in it and some granola and then

two cheese sticks so that's kind of my staple i've been doing that for probably two to three years now with the with the dairy stuff that i just mentioned so do you know you do just do you hold off until lunch completely then you'll you'll kind of do your stuff out the door for breakfast and then you wait until lunch you do you you don't eat all day like like Tanner or I do right I do not I would eat like I said if I have my drillers I would eat twice a day and that's probably it I've never really had a huge appetite some people that knew me when I was younger, they knew how skinny I was. I mean, when I was 17, I was 130 pounds. I just never ate a lot.

I never had much of an appetite. But did you have abs? Yeah, did you have abs at 130 pounds? I did, but abs on a skinny guy don't really count. Kind of like big boobs and a fat chair that's right that's right well i saw a deal on the internet the other day it was like uh what is it like every starving weak skinny guy has abs but traps are the real sign of strength there you go that's where it's at right right for sure so and then uh and then do you do your let's say

your supper dinner is that uh is that a strictly a post-workout thing for you then or or how does that look yeah so um i don't get a ton of calories in between breakfast and lunch uh they're they're not huge meals and i will uh and this this is by a strategy actually to have the majority of my meals come um after my workout and I work out in the evenings just going with the theory there that you have certain mechanisms that happen when you work out you know enhanced insulin sensitivity enhanced glucose and amino acid uptake into your muscle cells so to me it always made sense and research backs this up that you would want to have the majority of your calories, you know, around that time. So I have a fairly large meal after I'm done working out.

And honestly, for about, oh man, probably four years, I've had the same meal three nights a week. It's a homemade taco recipe that I do. I have some beef from our farm. I do about a half a pound of beef, black beans, shredded cheese. I use Greek yogurt instead of sour cream and then just some regular tortilla shells. And like I said, I've had that basically three nights a week for the last four years. So I mean, it's had that basically three nights a week for like the last four years. So, I mean, it's pretty common for people, you know, who lift weights on a regular basis to be creatures of habit. But I don't know if anybody's taken it quite that far.

They've eaten the same freaking meal for, you know, four years, three nights a week. So I'm actually a little bit starting to get sick of it. So I've been switching it up and trying to work on some new things. But it's just so easy, convenient. I know exactly how long it's going to take. I know all the macros for it. So I still do it quite a bit. That's awesome.

So does that end up being – since you don't eat that much during the day, does that meal almost like – do you almost have to suffer through the amount of quantity that you eat then in that post-workout meal um i've i'm usually pretty damn stuffed by the end of it like i don't want to eat anymore so after that to get even more calories i actually have i have a shake um pretty much right before i go to sleep and lately i bought this Nutribullet that I think it's called Nutribullet anyway, nutrient extractor it's not like a sex toy thing right? sounds kind of like that anyway

so I I put I put some fruit in there frozen fruit, milk protein I put some fruit in there, frozen fruit, milk, protein, sometimes some spinach, some vegetables. It's my way to get my fruits and vegetables in for the day pretty much convenient and painless, I guess, so to speak, way to do that. So that's my last meal of the day. And if I had to eat a solid meal, I don't think I'd be able to do that so uh that's that's my last meal of the day and if i had to eat like a solid meal

i don't i don't think i'd be able to do it so having that in a liquid form is kind of a godsend right on right on so is there any um you know this is something you said you've done this you've done all of this probably pretty consistently for the past few years right yeah okay and now has this has it changed have you had like in the past did you have any sort of like way different philosophy or um how has that evolved for you um well i guess going back to when i was uh younger when i was 17 i was talking about i was 130 pounds and just real thin like as i got into lifting weights more I moved into college it was really just about learning how to eat more at that point and I wasn't near as knowledgeable in nutrition so I would do things like make one chicken breast you know which was whatever 200

calories tops because there's very little fat in it you know just like a six ounce chicken breast just a tiny one but I would buy like a one dollar box of pasta at the grocery store which was just an insane amount of carbohydrates and fat with it and I would you know I would eat that I'm like okay I'm getting calories you know and just learning how to eat more but in hindsight just terrible terrible food choices when I was younger. But, you know, it was all about just getting in enough calories that time and learning how to eat and actually grow muscle from that standpoint. So I struggled through that for, I don't know, most of my college years, I guess, and made some progress. Mostly ended up as kind of skinny fat, I guess is what

I would call it. I'm not a very carb tolerant person. Some people can eat carbohydrates till they're coming out of their ears and, you know, not gain much fat. But I tend to put on fat easy if I push the carbs threshold too much. So you do, do you now still do you stay stay pretty limited on your carbs for the most part now i probably have a macronutri balance of i would say 40 fat 30 protein and 30 carbs okay so do you yeah i still probably to most people that uh you know lift weight seriously or athletic individuals i'm probably on the low side for carbohydrates because I'm still not extremely carb tolerant. So I just watch them and I definitely try to strategically use them specifically just around my workouts, peri-workout, meaning before, during, and after when you just tolerate carbohydrates better because those mechanisms I was talking about earlier,

enhance insulin sensitivity, enhance glucose uptake in your muscle cells. That's kind of how I try to do it now. Do you specifically, you said you watch it, do you specifically track your macros and your total calories per day or you just kind of know from doing it for so long or no that that would probably drive me insane the monotony of having to do that um so i have before um tracked you know a couple days so i have and my diet hasn't changed all that much since i've done that so So I have a fairly decent idea of what I get on a day-to-day basis because I'm so consistent with what I eat. So, yeah, I do have an idea of the calories, the protein, the carbs, fats, etc. And then if I do want to gain or cut, it's more just a matter of adding a little bit more or taking a little bit less.

I don't necessarily throw off my macros too much from an gaining or losing phase. That's pretty, that's interesting. I, uh, I actually thought I was carb intolerant when I just boosted my carbs up because I farted like every three minutes for the first like six days when I basically doubled my carbs and my wife fucking just could not hardly stand to be around me. Luckily, everything sorted itself out. How do you feel you tolerate carbs now that you've lost a bunch of weight? You know, it's hard to tell because I never did anything consistently before. Once I had lost, I really did, when I lost a lot of the weight, I was doing very few carbs.

But maybe not, I don't think weight, I was doing very few carbs, but maybe not, I don't think the ones I was having were ideal either. It was kind of after I lost the weight that I started really dialing in specifically, I guess. And once I did that, I feel that my body, I don't know how my body responds from a fat standpoint. Everything seems to work out, be working out and headed the right direction. But I know from an energy standpoint, once I like injected a lot more carbs into my diet and the right carbs, you know, keeping things

pretty clean. Um, I just, I felt so much better. I, you know, I wasn't getting buried by workouts. I was able to like kind of attack my day. And like they say, I did actually feel like my brain worked better afterwards. So it was worth a couple weeks of gas. The carbs are kind of a double-edged sword like that. They're very anabolic because of the effects they have on insulin. And insulin is maybe the most anabolic hormone or one of them so yeah it's pretty tough to gain muscle without having carbohydrates and it's also pretty tough to fuel your workouts when you're in that glycolytic range when you're the the type of workouts you're

doing are primarily fueled by glucose but on the same token where it's anabolic for muscle it's also anabolic for fat so yeah that with most people who are watching their body composition that carbohydrate manipulation is very important and i'm kind of always of the mindset is that you need to earn your carbohydrates if you're someone who is sedentary, like carbohydrates are generally a pretty immediate energy source. Glucose is an immediate energy source. So your body uses it right away or it stores it, you know, as glycogen in your muscles or your liver, or it stores it as fat. So it's basically an immediate energy source. And you need to use that right away. Or if you're sedentary, not have a lot of carbohydrates because of it.

So if you're working out, the more you work out, the more carbohydrates you can generally have. I just like to time around to when your workouts are essentially. And I kind of think that's why there there's a lot of those, you know, the popular diet things, you know, way back when when it was the Atkins diet or, you know, the low carb stuff. It does seem like a lot of that is geared towards, you know, lose weight but don't actually have to work hard. Yeah, people that might not be working out almost at all. Yeah.

Yeah. And I know that, you know know that I hear about it a lot, is that the ketogenic diet, whereas my understanding of it is pretty limited, but it's basically a lot of high fat and extremely low carbs. Yeah. And I don't – it seems really unsatisfying to me. um yeah and i don't yeah it seems really unsatisfying to me yeah with the ketogenic diets you generally have to keep under 30 grams of carbs uh for a day so basically you can so like how many snickers bars and stare at a picture of an apple and that's your carb intake for the day how many snickers bars can you fit in 30 grams of carbs of intake for the day. How many Snickers bars can you fit in 30 grams of carbs just as like a guy? How many Snicker bars? Yeah. I don't know, but a quarter of one. Okay. Okay. Nevermind then. So that diet is not for Tommy. Right. Right. But yeah, I mean the, the ketogenic ones popular

because you get so you get very efficient at burning fat and then using ketones for energy but it can be can be hell on the brain right away because your brain primarily uses glucose so it has to kind of switch over into using these ketones so you can get things like brain fog stuff like that when you go real low carb until you kind of adapt to using ketones officially in your brain but uh talk about having trouble fueling your workouts from you know a glycolytic standpoint where you're doing higher intensity stuff like weight training and you use primarily glucose so yeah it would just be miserable overall to be in a ketogenic diet and try to do the things we kind of do but uh it it

is effective if you have the discipline to do it i I think the fact is too, when I, when I was tracking my, my meals, like every single piece of my meals for a while is how sneaky, like just carbs are in general. And if you treat it like it's a bad thing and you can, I mean, 30 grams of carbs is almost no carbs and you can get 30 grams of carbs by not trying, you know, like fibrous vegetables, like out of nowhere you'll have that many carbs. You know, if you eat just meat and some vegetables, you'll have it without really getting like a, you know, having a big traditional heavy carb source. Stacking pancakes or something like that.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, with all that talk about carbs then and everything you said all i really want to know sean's is uh can i go eat an entire pizza after this or not can you go where can i go and eat an entire pizza after this and feel good about it well uh you you yourself probably walking around at 280 pounds uh you could use a little more carbohydrates and calories than, say, someone like me. I don't know. What would you say your carb tolerance is as an individual?

All of them? Mentally, I can tolerate quite a few. It feels no shame. No, I don't know know i i probably pretty average i fit somewhere in the middle because i i eat pretty high carb i've never honestly had a diet in my life where i'm low enough carb to tell you how that would affect me but uh i can get away with eating pretty high carb and if if i wanted to i could get you know at least moderately lean by an average person's standards just through exercise you know right what about what about you tommy do you do you go like do you go pretty wild with carbs consistently is this something that you

do you do you plan out your carb intake or not or not really tommy no not really just if I know I'm going to be working out and whether this makes any sense or not, I just think, ah, maybe some more carbs in the tank would be helpful today. So I might hit something up that's a little more carb heavy. But other than that, I'm not planning on them too hard. And I'm not trying to avoid them, but at the same time, I'm not trying to, I guess, I just really don't monitor it too closely. So you just kind of do it intuitively then? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So Austin, you take a pretty meticulous approach then as far as, I mean, pretty much your stuff is planned out every day. Tommy, you seem to keep it pretty loose. What about Austin? You know, since you're kind of the same boat as I am, where you

do pretty much plan at the very least, you know, your lunch and your dinner, what about traveling and things like that? What do you do if you're, when you're on the road and things are maybe a little bit out of your, out of your control? I really don't do much special in that situation. It's, you know, it's kind of like an 80-20 rule where if you can dial in everything 80% of the time, the other 20% is probably not that big a deal. So, you know, that's the things I control during, can control during the week. You know, I do, and I make sure that, you know, I follow my protocol then, but I allow more leeway for the weekends and stuff like that because that's generally when I'm traveling.

I just don't stress about it then. Like I said, it generally fits into that 80-20 rule. Nothing really special, I guess, which probably isn't what people want to hear, but that's the truth. Well, I mean, I just don't think you can, you know, it's really hard to do it like based on some sort of ideology where you have to make really fucking boring decisions when you're trying to, you know what I mean,

when you're trying to have fun, you know what I mean, something to be said for eating a big old bucket of wings because you want to and just don't habituate it. A lot of the people that I deal with do like they come, you know, they ask me for advice on stuff. And, you know, I always come back to, like, you know, there's no quick fixes with, like, this type of lifestyle. So it's like whatever you do with your workouts and whatever you do with your eating plan, you have to be able to do it consistently for a long enough duration. I mean, generally, you know, hopefully for, you know, the foreseeable future, the rest of your life. So if, you know, if you're doing something where you don't like it and it's a pain

in the ass or you have to prep meals to take on road trips and, you know, you're pulling a chicken breast out of your cooler every two and a half hours or something outrageous like that, you're going to have a bad time and you're probably not going to adhere to that. People tend to fall off the wagon and just throw everything to the curb at that point. I always remind people, I'm like, you can't be perfect with everything. None of your workouts are going to be perfect. your meals aren't always going to be perfect but you know if it's something where you can do a pretty damn good job for the majority of the time uh you're going to get

results that way can i get oh whoa i just uh i just my voice just cracked like a teenager sorry about that i got the uh the the wrong wrong job here to be going through puberty right now um um the other thing we i guess we hadn't really covered since the the three of us here have kind of babbled on about what we what we do from a training standpoint what what exactly um you know what what is your your training sessions kind of like what is your training sessions kind of like? What are your training goals? These two here next to me, Tanner and Tommy kind of trained for just power lifting, general strength,

the big three lifts and obviously a lot of accessory work and I really don't know what the hell I'm doing anymore. So what exactly are you training for I guess? Well, I mean being a skinny bastard my entire life, I've always wanted to be bigger ever since I was little. So I've almost always primarily trained with hypertrophy, my number one goal, and strength probably my second, or strength athleticism because I still play some sports.

my second or strength athleticism because I still play some sports but it's pretty much always been hypertrophy and I've just bounced around with different programs for a while when I was younger just try to get bigger essentially and now I kind of just train more intuitively I don't generally follow a written program just just general principles usually and if i had to say ways i was following these principles like the last couple years was i do a couple big bigger lifts so to speak you know like a deadlift a squat a bench military press towards the beginning of my workout where it's probably more mid-range rep a little more hypertrophy strength blend type you know reps and sets there so and then I move on into my workout where it's probably more accessory work more direct arm work

shoulder work things like that that kind of move into more sets and more reps type of things I mean it varies but that's kind of move into more sets and more reps type of thing I mean it varies but that's kind of the basic principle of how I've been lifting I would say probably the past five years or so do you skip leg day I've gotten much better doing legs being a skinny guy having chicken legs uh i fortunately when i started lifting weights i did not lift legs which was stupid but uh i have gotten better at over the years and now actually um i lift legs twice a week every week um and that's that's been pretty helpful uh and bringing up some size in my legs. My calves still don't grow worth a damn,

evident by the article I wrote about my calves. www.mastnomics.com My thighs, my quads. It is interesting, actually, the article you did write on calves that we have on the website. My calves are silly huge, and I don't ever even try. You know what I mean? I do think that no matter what anyone says,

I think there is some sort of genetic component there. Absolutely. I mean, Tanner's calves shouldn't even be called calves. They should be called cows. They're gigantic. I've heard people say this before that calves out of almost every muscle on you your body can be the most uh genetically dependent muscle have you is yeah that's that's definitely something i've heard too i i don't know

if any research has actually been done on that i'm not aware of any uh i've never read any but you know anecdotally you'll see that you know i i don't know do your parents have big calves i mean there would be an anecdote right there but yeah generally you'll see kind of genetic traits like passed down like parents have big calves for whatever reason and then the kids get it too. So everybody that is listening to this, what we want you to do is we want you to go home and take a real good look at your calves and think on what side of that spectrum you fall on. And then I want you to go and look at your mom and dad's calves

and I'd like you to look at your grandparents' calves. And we really need some data here. Yep, some measurements would be nice. Ideally, yeah. Some quantitative data here so we yeah some measurements would be nice ideally yeah some quantitative data here so we can analyze it actually yeah that's awesome well i've got another question uh about your diet something that we all kind of covered about our own is uh what do you what do you drink for fluids you know do you do you just drink water do you drink drink pop ever? Juice? What do you drink? Yeah, so I do like coffee.

I definitely like coffee in the mornings. Do you like your coffee like you like your men? Stiff and strong? Frozen and ground up in the freezer. Is Jeffrey Dahmer coffee? So, yeah, with my coffee, I guess I do like cream in it. So I don't put any sugar in it anymore. I used to when I first started. But mostly just if I can get some full fat cream, like real cream,

that's the good stuff right there. But I'll generally have two to three cups a day. I've been trying to cut back, actually. So I've been hovering right around two cups. And then otherwise, I mostly drink water. You know, I'll have my carb protein blend for my workout. Other than that, it's just water. And maybe once or twice during the week, I'll have

like a diet pop. It just depends on the situation. And I have been known from time to time to partake in the spirits on the weekend. Whiskey, wild turkey for the ones that know me a little bit better. But yeah, that pretty much covers what i drink on a regular i guess i do drink some milk too not a lot but uh it'll go in my like shakes uh i was talking about that fruit and vegetable shake or whatever that i make at night but i do put milk in that so i do get a little bit a little bit of milk i was meaning to bring this up when you were talking about your breakfast too. And, uh, it reminded me when you're talking about coffee, do you, um, have you ever heard of, or tried it that like a bulletproof coffee where you basically you take just your coffee, um, like a couple

tablespoons of MCT oil, and then, you know, a tablespoon of grass fed butter, whip it up in a blender. Have you ever heard of that or tried any of that? I have heard of it. I'm familiar with it. I guess I think the thing behind it was it's supposed to be this brain food or like energy sustaining drink. I don't know. I mean, the MCTs, the medium chain triglycerides are healthy fats. The thing them is is uh they they're not stored in the body um as fats so you utilize them for energy primarily um and they don't get stored so that's that's the reasoning behind you know including those in for sustained energy or whatever um and then the butter i know they usually talk about grass-fed butter higher in omega-3s you know good for the brains things like that um i don't think there's inherently anything uh special about it i mean you know good healthy

fats uh coffee's high in antioxidants it's it's a nice little drink but uh your your dieting i mean you could get six seven hundred calories in that drink alone with all those uh you know straight fat so it just depends on if it falls into your goals or not. But again, I don't think there's anything inherently magic about it, but it can be just a solid addition to if you're trying to get extra calories or if it really does give you some sustained energy. I don't know. I think caffeine is probably more helpful from an energy standpoint

than any of the medium-chain triglycerides or anything like that i noticed i i tried it a couple of times and i i don't even i really don't drink coffee at all so i was like well maybe it's a fun way for me to try to drink coffee and um it actually was kind of good like the butter it tasted good it was i don't know i i enjoyed it but i have a kind of a low tolerance for caffeine so i had uh i think like a cup and a half of it each time. And I did feel like much more sustained energy. Like I felt good from the caffeine until about noon. Whereas normally I would feel really, really hyper for about an hour and then I'd have to shit.

And all came crashing down. That part was okay, but I just could not justify the calories for me, especially if I'm trying to lose some weight. I can't justify, like you said, 500, 600 calories that I'm not eating because I'm still hungry. Right. I mean, that makes sense too. What time do you generally have your coffee in the morning?

Normally, never. Honestly, I don't ever really drink coffee. So in this case, it was just something I tried a couple of times, and I had it at like 7.30 in the morning. Gotcha. One thing that I've actually been experimenting with with my coffee is I would have it earlier in the morning you know a lot of people have it when they wake up or shortly after they wake up to get going and I never felt good when I would have it earlier so I just started naturally waiting a little bit later in the morning until I was more woken up before I had some and I felt much better after drinking my coffee and it had more pronounced

effect, you know, and I didn't crash or anything afterwards. So I got curious and I started looking into the research behind it and I found that, so you have a cortisol secretion in the morning, which is just, it's a hormone that wakes you up. It's kind of like adrenaline. It gets you up, gets you moving for the day. And with most people's normal sleep schedule, if you have, I mean, even somewhat standard sleep schedule, your cortisol levels will peak about 8, 830. schedule your cortisol levels will peak about 8 8 30. If you have your coffee before that it'll actually suppress your cortisol output so after the caffeine wears out you you haven't had enough

cortisol output from your body to to sustain you so you kind of crash sooner than usual or more pronounced than if you would have actually waited to have your coffee a little bit later in the day after your cortisol output had peaked. So with me, I definitely noticed that. And I've just talked to a couple of people, you know, about the same idea. And I had a friend that switched up. He didn't, he kind of stopped drinking coffee because, uh, he felt like crap in the afternoons or shortly after lunch. And I told him, we'll try this and see if it helps. And, you know, sure shit it did. So, uh, I thought that's kind of an interesting, uh, interesting little, uh, body hack there or whatever you want to call it, uh, for the listeners out there. If you are, there. If you do drink your coffee early in the morning and you don't necessarily like the way it feels

after you come down off your caffeine or if you want to maybe just sustain that energy buzz a little bit longer, try drinking your coffee a little bit later in the day, like say 9 o'clock. So to clarify though, you drink it later in the day instead of first thing in the morning, not first thing in the morning all the way into later in the day, like say nine o'clock. So to clarify though, you drink it later in the day instead of first thing in the morning, not first thing in the morning, all the way into later in the day, right? Correct. You don't just drink more. You hold off. I just don't, don't ever stop. You'll be fine. Right. So say you have, you know, two cups of coffee, you generally have between 7.30 and 9.30. Well, wait and have it between 9 and 11, and I would bet you'll feel a lot better because you're not suppressing that cortisol output.

And I suppose that, you know, just fundamentally it will, like, force you to learn how to wake up on your own anyways, you know. wake up on your own anyways you know um right uh yeah there's there's some merit to what you're saying there where yeah if you constantly rely on caffeine to get you moving in the morning you know you're you're suppressing that cortisol all the time so yeah you can kind of relearn how to wake up just using your body's natural cortisol production and not be dependent on caffeine if god forbid you're in a situation where you can't get any coffee uh professor sean's another question for you on this morning beverage uh picture we've got a member at the gym who usually starts every morning with a couple uh 16 ounce coors originals how do you think that that plays in nutritionally or energy. Starting off the day with beer.

I don't see any downside to this, really. I didn't say beer. I said Coors Original. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, that's some serious calories right there with the Coors Original because it's not Coors Light. Yeah, I mean, you can look at it this way. They're probably in a better mood.

You know, that might have some positive hormonal effects, you know, a reduction in stress, et cetera. So I don't know if it's not anything I would necessarily recommend people try. No recommendation. All right. So Professor Shanz does not advise early morning drinking at least from a fitness standpoint but we said nine o'clock is no longer early morning so after nine after nine we're good with your coffee at nine well that's good um austin i think uh i think we're kind of getting about ready to wrap up did you have anything else or any other any other um

nutritional subjects we wanted to touch on today? Obviously we're going to be, uh, having Austin on here quite a bit more frequently. Now we got all this setup done. Um, assuming it comes out, right? Yeah. Yeah. If that's true. Yeah. That's going to be the main factors if this actually works. So, um, no, is there anything else you want to touch on before we go uh no not necessarily i mean i will say it's a little bit weird doing the podcast this way but uh the nice thing is is that uh i didn't even have to put pants on to do this podcast neither did we it's just more uncomfortable i would say more comfortable actually i'm not there actually we're actually we're in a we're in a room that's like 90 percent windows so it does get pretty hot in here as the summer rolls on it's probably going to be uh at least at the very least short

shorts type of scene here so um well thanks for coming on Austin um look forward to doing this a lot more often it's nice to actually have somebody that knows some things on here because it's normally just the three of us talking shit. We can only make things up for so long. Yeah, yeah. So Austin. Yeah, it's also nice to have other people listen to what I'm saying rather than just me talking

to myself because I live alone. So okay, well that's going to do it for today everybody. If you, make sure you go to our website massonomics.com check out the articles videos what do we got new on there lately we've we're gonna have the state power lifting meet video is going to be up there yep that should by the time this is out that should be up there to check out yeah so um go to the website check out the content buy some stuff buy all of the stuff um please make sure you go to the website, check out the content, buy some stuff, buy all of the stuff.

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No. And Tommy. And I'm at Tomahawk underscore D. Austin, are you on the Instagrams? No, I'm not. I can barely handle just Facebook alone. The fact that you guys do Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and what the hell else is there? Snapchat? Do we have a Masonomics Snapchat? We don't, but we all have our personal ones. We don't want to advertise our personal Snapchats because i don't want an onslaught of dick pics do you have snapchat because we could have people send their dick pics there

uh i i do but uh yeah i i'll pass okay here's what we're gonna do we'll have some sort of a competition between the four of us and whichever one loses at some point their snapchat's going to be made public on the podcast so so don't bother austin on social media but you can catch up to him on the on the website yeah just www.mastinomics.com that's right that's right well thanks for listening um it's been a good day so uh i don't think that's going to do it for us so thanks for listening check us out on mastanomics.com and stay strong. Hop on that iTunes, give us a little review and five-star rating too if you can sneak that in your schedule. Yep, and now we are on iTunes and Stitcher.

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