Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 14: This Week In Massenomics

Episode Date: July 10, 2016

A sneak peek inside Massenomics Studio   This week we recap an extremely busy couple weeks in the world of Massenomics. We cover some of the finer points from our last interview, discuss some great recent performances as well as some sad news from the world of Strength. Stick through to the end, because Tanner closes out this episode with a can't-miss poop story.    Make sure you LIKE and SHARE this episode on Facebook, and be sure to LIKE our Facebook page as well so you can stay in the loop.    Remember to go to iTunes and give us a 5 star review, and remember to go to the Massenomics Store and check out our kickass apparel options..    And lastly.... scroll to the bottom of this page and sign up for our email newsletter. I promise, we'll only send you emails that are awesome. For real.

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This is the loosest episode we've had thus far. All right, guys, we are here at the Massanomics studio for Massanomics podcast. Today we are going to talk about a whole bunch and not a whole lot. So we're going to talk a little bit to start off about what we did last week. If you heard, if you listened to last week's episode, it was probably the coolest episode we've done for sure. Definitely the most fun I've had with a podcast. Yeah, without a doubt. Last week we went down and we visited with Jonah Leo, IPF World Bench Press Champion. And we got like a pretty solid, like it was about an hour, hour and ten minute conversation with him.

And really awesome being able to pick somebody's brain that knows his stuff like that. And there was almost like so much information to take away from it that it was kind of a lot to process. Especially for me, who was a little bit outside the loop there. But I mean, what was your guys's thoughts on it tanner um i guess first of all i'm glad jonah's not here now so we can finally talk shit about him he's a guy you don't talk shit in person that's for sure just kidding in case you know where i live jonah and you're listening to this uh But yeah, I mean, I honestly, we recorded for like over an hour. I think Tommy is the same way.

We probably could have sat there and asked him questions for like two more hours. Oh, yeah, and that's the thing. The hour flew by. I could have just fired off questions over and over and over and had just no problem with it. Yeah, and the thing was, too, is we hadn't really met Jonah before. So then afterwards, we're done recording because at some point you have to stop and you don't want to take so much time from a guy's day but we're we get to talking after we're done and again i'm just like shit we got to stop talking or we have to start recording again well that's the thing it's like

we get done talking we start going over more stuff it's like this might even be better than what we talked about in the podcast. We need to sit back down. No, so it was, man, it was really good. And that's the type of stuff that we would really like to do more often, I think. I like to talk to more awesome people who know more than we do. Because I'm pretty sure after you listen to today's episode, you're going to be really tired of listening to the three of us talk. I thought some of the takeaways from the Jonah thing that I think we talked about

either after the podcast or just talked about amongst ourselves when he wasn't around. Like one of the things that he said that was so impressive was talking about the bench shirts. And he would say, you know, he's sponsored by Titan

and he's in a good position where they give him free shirts. And he said, you know, Titan hooks him up. They might send seven, eight over at a time. And he said they're good for about eight reps and he moves on to the next one which i would have never guessed like if you told me those things are good for four years i'd be like yeah that sounds right and i think they're like a couple hundred bucks a shirt aren't they i would sure think so i was i was looking around and they have just because i had to put

into perspective somehow and i'm i just have to assume he has the best, nicest one they get. And online, you can have it custom-tailored, giving your measurements and everything. And I think the most expensive option was $300. So when you look at that, you're getting a few of those. That's pretty impressive. So he's literally wearing that for eight reps. And then Phil, his training partner, he's got it made pretty good

because he kind of made it sound like all of his uh hand-me-down ones that go right to him so and i'm sure with the quality of product titan makes that after eight reps it's still a great shirt but if you're the absolute best in the world it's probably not 100 awesome at that point so that's where it gets retired right kind of like kind of like basketball player wearing new shoes every game, just because you can. Another thing I would say, when we talk about real strong guys, there's two kinds. We've talked about this before. Some are just really strong, like super gifted,

and not that they don't know a lot about the sport or what they're doing, but maybe it's just like this guy is born to be strong and he's going to be no matter no matter what and i'd say jonah has some of that but the flip side of it some guys are like what you'd call like technicians or they uh have programming down to a science and just about everything down to a science and i'd say jonah has quite a bit of that and i'm and i think that's probably what takes somebody from being good or great to being the best in the world too is there's there's a huge like genetic component there's a huge gift component there but you're not gonna do it without taking absolutely everything to the next

level I mean no matter how hard I tried I'm not gonna be able to probably bench as much as Jonah can no matter how hard for how long right and no matter how much of a technician we all you know just to kind of back that up he kept talking about that super training book which i had never even heard of before i think maybe a few listeners that are very into that side of it might but it's i guess from now from what i've heard it's the super super technical driest reading scientific studies on lifting recovery muscle gaining all of that and he kept he kept saying he's like you know you have to sometimes just go back to the drawing board, you read super training, figure out a few chapters that apply to what you know, and go from there. And I'm just, this whole thing is above my head.

Yeah. And it was nice too, because, you know, having not known Jonah before, and fortunately, I don't have to say this afterwards, he, you know, he was actually really well-spoken, really articulate. Sometimes you worry that if you're going to meet one of the strongest people in the world, that they might be a bit of a meathead, but, uh, no, he was, I mean, it was, it was great being able to have him. And it was fortunate that Phil came along to keep him, keep him loose and give him somebody to talk shit to someone to bash. Phil took it pretty, took it pretty well though. But that was, that was great. It was a lot of fun. Um, we got done the interview, and we rolled down to Cassaday Sean's down a little further south there.

Stumbled into a Cheap Trick concert. Which I have to say, Cheap Trick, I never really thought I'd see Cheap Trick once in my life. Don't get me wrong. I like a few of their songs. They do have some good songs. Surrender, Dream Police. And that other one. What was it? There is three. Want You to Want Me. Great, great classics. But I never thought I'd see Cheap Trick once in my life, let alone two times in a year on accident. And that is the second time this year I've seen them on accident. The first would be, I went to the, there was an

outdoor hockey game in Minneapolis between the Wild and the Blackhawks. And, you know, it's a big event, not a lot of outdoor professional hockey games in this day and age anymore. And during like this break between like the second and third period, they're like, cheap trick. Oh, okay. This is kind of cool.

And for that, it was a perfect format. They have enough to play like their four songs and get out. I'm like, you know, that's a really cool and knock off And for that, it was a perfect format. They have enough to play their four songs and get out. I'm like, you know, that's a really cool and knock-off-the-bucket list. I saw Cheap Trick. And then we stumble into this concert, downtown Sioux City, and it's Cheap Trick playing their last four songs

that I see again. So in the course of four months, I see Cheap Trick twice on accident. It makes me wonder if anyone has ever seen Cheap Trick on purpose or if they've made a career out of people accidentally stumbling into their concerts. Well, I can tell you I accidentally paid way too much money for that show too because we thought it was just like a downtown biker show. You could just wander some bars.

There'd be some people. We roll up, and it's like a $25 cash-only cover charge. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me i was like i get maybe five dollars to wander your downtown and check out your bars but 25 dollars yeah but had i not stumbled across this you know stumbled into the cheap trick concert i would have walked away like what in the hell was that money and then it was funny because tanner has to go on a little road trip himself a few days after that. He's in the middle of nowhere with no radio stations. One radio station.

Yeah, I get a message from him. The only thing on is Dream Police. So we get done watching. Fortunately, we only caught the last three or four songs of Cheap Trick. So I'm sure we got to miss out on all the, would you like to hear the new stuff? But then we go into this karaoke bar and sure as shit like what was it like two three songs with people singing cheap trick yeah right after watching a cheap trick concert just riding that cheap trick high so i'm sure most i like i think-quarters of the members of Cheap Trick are big fans of this podcast, so big shout out there. No, it was good.

It was a good, fun time. I did get some sort of flesh-eating bacteria from Austin's swimming pool. Fouled up one of my eyes for basically a whole week. But I'm back. So, no, that's kind of our little bit of our, a little bit of our recap from last week. I think we'll probably, uh, would want to have Jonah on again sometime if we ever get that opportunity

because there's more there that we'd like to ask him. I'm sure. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think with him being that close, it's just something we just just have to try and do more often. It's not, it's, it's a bit of a pain in the ass to get all the way down there, and I don't think he likes coming this far north because it's so cold and awful up here. But, yeah, I think it's something we'd like to do again, even if it's just once a year or a couple times a year.

You can't have somebody that strong and that interesting to talk to that close and just not do it more often. Hopefully next time we talk to him, it's after he takes back the world record title. Yeah, then he can be current world record holder. Yeah, because really, thus far, he's the most accomplished person we've had on the podcast, and we'd like to keep it that way for a while. So keep racking him up. We need you.

What else went on last week? I came home, and immediately then my wife went to South Carolina for a week, but she did train down at CrossFit Beaufort in South Carolina, the home of the great CJ Cummings, which if you haven't ever seen this kid lift, he's 15 years old. I don't believe he's turned 16 yet, but he's an Olympic lifter, lifts at 69 kilos, so it's like 150 ish pounds something like that um clean and jerks 385 pounds i don't know what his snatch is but if you go on youtube or follow him on instagram um it's just it's insane yeah i've just never and to i guess how i had first heard of him was someone at work someone i work with knows that i like to lift weights so hey have you heard of this guy? He's the next phenom. And I had no clue what he was talking about.

And he was saying some numbers. And I just thought it was one of those things of like people that don't understand lifting, getting things completely mixed around. Because they sounded like kind of outlandish, you know, a little out there. And I had to Google it right away. And I did come across his Instagram. And if, you know, I guess a lot of people, um, that might be listening to this, have more of a power lifting, uh, perspective on things. But if you watch the

guy do front squats, he's like repping out four plates, like nothing. And it's just, it's smooth. And it's not like he's rounding over and the kid's got power. It's crazy to watch. Yeah. Give him a follow on Instagram. It's CJ underscore cummings um i actually i saw him at the arnold when i was down there um and i saw him and immediately i kind of fanboyed a little bit but kept it inside because then i realized i looked i was like that is definitely it's still a 15 year i'm a big man i didn't want my giant ass to run up there and be like dude can i get a picture i'm a big man. I didn't want my giant ass to run up there and be like, dude, can I get a picture? I'm a huge fan. Cause, cause like, I think he's like,

you've already gotten in trouble with the cops for saying that to kids in high school. Yeah. There's a lot of schools I cannot go to anymore, but no, I mean, so my wife was there and she kind of, she, he was actually gone in Russia, but I guess he has like a little corner down there and he has all of his stuff still has all of his you know elaco plates from iwf in houston this last year and um she they were like you should pick up that bar it's a sweet barbell and she's like i'm not gonna pick up so no but she she kind of played around with his his gear a little

bit and uh and uh yeah she was she was pretty She's a huge, huge fan of his. She definitely would have ran him down and taken a picture. So I wonder, uh, how young he was when he started Olympic weightlifting. I bet. I know like in Russia, they start their Olympic weightlifters at an insanely young age. Yeah. Or like in China, they pretty much, they pretty much groom them, farm them right away. You know, they'll like measure your, your joint levers and decide right away you know they'll like measure your your joint levers and decide right away that you're you're able to be at the top and then they just get you on that good communist block medicine you know and uh and just train them train them to death basically you know and see but uh but uh yeah he's been at it for a long time um if you do any google

search for cj cummings there's been dozens of articles a long time. If you do any Google search for C.J. Cummings, there's been dozens of articles on him. I know, I think Flow Elite has a couple that are pretty recent that are really good, but yeah, he's a badass dude for sure, and I think one of the things I say is he's kind of like the LeBron James of weightlifting, the one with the most potential at the youngest age,

and Olympic weightlifting in the U.S. has just been shit in the bed for so long. But now some of our youth lifters, younger lifters, are really getting near the top. So five years, ten years, we might be able to compete. But for now, we're still busy getting shellacked on the world stage. One of the interesting things that I know i think it was the bulgarians that said that they just couldn't understand why you know why americans have their own internal drug testing so they said that we don't get it like we're here just trying to excuse me just trying to get strong and be better and you guys spend your the next four years

telling on each other you know and uh and And they said that really is the difference. But now they've gone back and retested a bunch of samples from the Olympics in 2012 and in 2008, and a whole bunch of Russian weightlifters got all their stuff ganked. They're banned from Rio. And they're talking about pulling whatever the whatever it is from from these federations these federal you know because america's the was it awf or usa w and uh you know so like but like the russian federation is going to get completely they may be completely banned may not even be able

to bring bring any lifters so these pretty pretty serious, uh, what else went on here? We've got, uh, Tommy brought, brought something up that, uh, was just triggered something in my head when you're talking about those people, you know, that, uh, bring up weight lifting or power lifting or something that don't necessarily follow lifting. You know, they just, and just how, how you said at first, you thought it was someone that just, you know, they kind of get numbers mixed around. It's like, well, that guy's dead lifted 3 000 pounds did you see that it's like well that's not possible but uh that reminds i was in a at a conference over the uh this last week

and a work-related yeah work-related yep and uh massonomics conference no unfortunately that was this last weekend but this one wasn't massonomics related um but so it comes the if you're fairly big you know this lifting comes up you know you don't have to try to bring it up like tyler i'm sure you go places and people will ask you like geez you're huge what do you what is it that you do you know that actually that means your weight lifting is working because like but like before like when I was 60 pounds heavier, I didn't look like I lifted. I just looked like a big old fat guy. So it's a lot better now to be like, man, you look like you're a big, strong guy. You're like, yeah, fucking A.

So that comes up. And so when you're meeting a lot of new people, you have that conversation several times. And I talk to a guy. He wanted to know how much I lift. And I say, you know, usually that means they wanted to know how much I lift and I say usually that means they want to know how much you bench press if anyone wants to know how much you lift and they don't know about lifting it means they want to know how much you bench press so we kind of talked about that

then he was asking more questions at first when it's someone like that I don't really tell them the full story or give them the full picture because they probably don't really care. And it's like a waste of everyone's time. They ask, and after they say the question, they're already on to the next one. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I did at first, but he kept asking questions. So I tell him more and more, and I was like, actually, I power lift.

And he didn't know what that is, so I told him the three lifts. And he's like, oh, so how much do you squat? you know what that is so I told him the three lifts and he's like oh so how much do you squat and I was like oh I've done uh like 545 in competition a couple times uh you know I was like it's not my best lift but uh it's probably respectable yet and he's like oh that that seems pretty good he's like I squatted 715 one time I know in the gym and that's what and you're like i i think i need to talk to you yeah yeah and this guy obviously didn't know anything about lifting and this was obviously not true you know but uh that just as i was thinking and as tommy said that too it's just that comes up a lot where people tell you these things that aren't true and i don't know if it's people like intentionally lying or if it's just like trying not really know not really

knowing and understanding what the weights are add up to but 715 pound squat is like pretty serious yeah you definitely don't do that accidentally without knowing what powerlifting is. Yeah. You didn't just squat 715 in your high school gym and have nothing awesome come from it. You're talking world-class strength at that point. Yeah, because this guy probably weighed maybe 200 pounds, give or take 20 pounds. I don't even know. I just assumed he was a very large man.

No, no, no. This would be like a world record squat for a second. And my personality, I didn't sit there and call him out and say, no, you didn't. But, you know, like I imagine Professor Shanz, he would probably tell him like, um, no, no, you didn't do that. But me, I'm like, oh, that's pretty good. So I don't, I don't really have a final point to that. Just that I've probably had a conversation similar to that about 20 times in my life. I enjoy talking to people about lifting if they're interested in finding out about it, but sometimes I don't enjoy the pretend numbers that I hear back.

There's also part of me where you'll start having that conversation and you go down this road and you realize right away that, oh, they don't give a fuck about this at all. Yeah. And I've been talking about this now for 10 minutes yeah and uh yeah that's that's a pain because guys like us we could talk about it for five hours if you you know that's why we started a podcast so we can just talk about it when we're not at the gym yeah when we're not at the gym we're talking about it so um yeah that's that's pretty so do you ever have people where you'll go up and you'll tell you know talk about like your you know what's your deadlift like six something now yeah 645 is the most i've ever so that's a number that's pretty fucking huge to

most people so do you ever you ever have somebody well what's your deadlift and tell them 600 and some pounds and have them just about fall out of their chair yeah i think a lot of people that don't follow lifting closely they don't know the difference between like 400 or 500 or 600 it all just sounds like you know i think people kind of understand how much 200 pounds is because like 200 pounds like everyone knows someone that probably weighs 200 pounds yeah yeah and then like you get to 300 it's like that's really big and then things start to get over even 350 400 pounds and it's just past the scale of comprehensible yeah like and that's i think you know where um at least making things relatable to people you have to relate it to like this is how much a fridge weighs and be like oh that's

really big you know we've talked about that a little bit with the strongman competition we're throwing down here is it a month and a half well by the time you hear this would be about a month away something like that. And that's kind of the same thing. That's why World's Strongest Man is so popular. If you just had weights on barbells, it wouldn't be that interesting. But when you got these big old beasts throwing stones

or hauling semis, that's why it's interesting. That's why ever since you were a kid, that was awesome. You saw a giant hauling a school bus. And they could do the same thing with Kilo plates on it. It's instantly 10 times less cooler. Kilo plates just don't have that same. So yeah, it's the same thing with things like the car deadlifts and stuff like that. It just looks cooler.

Because heavy doesn't matter. You could rig up a car deadlift that none of us could lift, or that maybe one top-end guy could lift, and that's really just not as interesting as put a lighter car on there and let people move it because that's what the people want to see. Heavy lifts are always very impressive, but you have to have a backing and an understanding of what it is. If you're trying to appeal to the masses,

you can go over 400 pounds, it's over 400 pounds. It doesn't even matter. It's just a lot of weight. To any of us, seeing someone do a really heavy deadlift on kilo plates still looks really cool. But to general people, they don't care about that.

And everyone can be like, wow, a car is heavy and you're picking it up. Yeah, and even if that was leveraged down to where it's like 375 pounds, it still looks cool. It still looks cooler. And that's kind of the cool thing

about Strongman stuff is that it is, uh, it's kind of this sweet combination of powerlifting and professional wrestling. And when we do the event, uh, we'll probably talk about that more coming up in a future weeks or whatever,

but that's kind of what we're trying to put it. We've talked about that. Like we want it to be closer to WWE than we do, uh, you know, an IPF powerlifting meet. Somebody has to get some face tattoos. Wear the tight pants. Someone will be lifting in a leather vest with a speedo on. What else is new here?

We have a little bit of brief news from the from ipf uh what what was going on in ipf here was the which competition the world uh world's competition in texas and it's kind of in progress right now but the uh kind of one of the more notable things i think would be john hack beating brett gibbs at 83 kilos or the 183 pound weight class yep and it was hacks hacks let's see if i pull this up here hack had that 1789 pound total god knows whatever that is in kilos we did all the math before we started this episode so we don't have to talk about um but uh he did have a 656 pound squat 440 pound bench and 693 pound dead shit you almost got him on the deadlift, Tanner. He's 21 and weighs 183 pounds.

Wow. So what kind of – By almost like within 50 pounds. What kind of cut is that going to take for you to get down there? Like almost dead. A life ending. Yeah. Like six weeks of crystal meth.

Near death, yes. Oh, bench, I got him tied. My competition bench is 440. It just doesn't seem possible though for someone of that size and he's i think if i looked i thought i thought i read he's 5 8 5 9 so he's not like one of those guys that's 5 2 and a thick 183 pounds that's what brett gibbs is a picture of those two next to each other yeah hack looks way taller look at other competitors in the weight class he definitely looks taller than them but he is because he is so tall he has to be very lean too so he's got some he's got some

mass on his frame but speaking of impressive lifts brett and brett gibbs is the one he just just barely edged out a little bit here brett gibbs total 1738 to hacks 1789 but looks like gibbs missed his first bench his last deadlift and his last two squats so probably a rough rough day on the bench and rough day in the rack so and uh going into the competition gibbs was number one ranked in the world and hack was second so it was i don't know if you call it an upset but uh and hacks the american too so if you're rooting for the old usa you're happy to see that yeah i don't know what gibbs is he's like new zealand new zealand okay it's from one of those australias i think the lord of the rings plays if i remember but he is really like he's got to be i don't know how

tall he is if he's like five three or something crazy yeah it's because he's looks way thicker yeah you know it's that manlet body they refer to. He's the one from New Zealand, right? Yeah, it's that big beard. It's that hobbit stuff, for sure. From the Shire. But that squat was a world record, I think. Yeah, I think it said he got the world record. And he actually competed at Open, even though he is 21, which he is a junior.

So he does have the world record squat in junior and in the Open. It'll be interesting to see him, you know, if he sticks with it for multiple years, if he stays in like that 183 weight class or like at 5'9", you know, he could theoretically pack on and easily fill out to that next weight class within a few years. Yeah, you would think when you're 21, you're still definitely growing as far as strength sports go. So I would think there's going to be at least a bump or two up in weight classes as the years go by, assuming he stays healthy and sticks with it.

So there could be some pretty serious numbers coming from him, I would imagine, too, getting into the seven pluses in both squat and deadlift pretty easily. Yep. You know, if he talked to your buddy that you met, he could probably really have a world record squat on his hands. What's that? Oh!

Mr. 715. Yes, yes, this guy I met that doesn't lift squats more than this IPF world champion. The world champion. With the world record, yeah. Or, like, you know, everybody has, like, a guy they went to high school with who could probably lift a lot compared to the rest of the people. But it gets so blown out of proportion because most of these, they might have been two years younger and had no idea,

just saw them lifting. Maybe had three, four plates on, and that turns into 700 pounds. And it's three, four plates. It's like a squat that goes not even anywhere near, not even parallel. I get maybe people make the argument that you don't have to bury it but not even close to parallel it would be a three red light lift for sure yeah that's funny that's good so it's um i guess we're we're a few weeks back here by the time you're reading this but uh we had a little bit of sad news here a couple of weeks ago um chris moore um i don't know if you know who Chris Moore is,

but Chris Moore was one of the hosts and founding members of Barbell Shrugged. He's one of the hosts on the podcast. He also was an author, had his own podcast called the Barbell Buddha Podcast, which I would highly recommend you check out. But Chris Moore passed away. I believe he was 35, passed away. I believe he was 35 or maybe 36 years old. Kind of, well, definitely out of the blue. Chris was at his home in Amsterdam. They had just moved there. If you listen to his podcast at all, it was, you know, his last episode was basically his thing on his dream come true and how he was able to go kind of forward and do all this stuff. And, um, really kind of a, just a, just a sad deal. But Chris was a guy that, you know, I had had, had the fortunate luck of being able to correspond with a little bit. And, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's a real

shame. It's a, it's a really significant loss. Chris had been a power lifter for a really long time. And he, I think he had made a lot of relationships in that world as well before moving into Barbell Shrugged. But since then, you know, when he started writing, I had, I had hit him up a couple times via email and just kind of asking him, you know, he helped me out with a piece that I have that we'll probably end up releasing here that I had done before when I was just doing my kind of solo blog. But, you know, I kind of look for him for a little bit of mentorship and it was, he was really nice and kind. And he, you know, he responded me, I had a handful of email conversations with him back and forth. And, you know, stuff that now in hindsight, I, you know, really, really cherish, but, you know, I can't recommend his stuff enough. So if

you like podcasts at all, you like strength podcasts, check his solo one out. If you're not listening to Barbell Shrug, you probably should be. But his solo podcast, Barbell Buddha, is available everywhere that we are. And everybody should definitely be checking out. But his books also, he's got three books. They'll both be getting re-released here pretty soon. They're going to do kind of an anthology of it. And I can't recommend his three books enough. Also, if you'd like to help, he had left Barbell Shrugged recently and was going to go forward and do making basically like kind of filmmaking stuff. They had done, you know, full depth, which if you haven't seen that stuff,

go to YouTube, search for full depth barbell shrug. They have like probably the coolest, they have a deal where they went to NASA and they cover all like the strength stuff in NASA. And it's really neat, really interesting. They talk about how they have equipment where you can deadlift in space, but it's this fully comprehensive documentary.

And that was kind of the direction that they were going going and that's the stuff he wanted to do, but he had started Ironheart studios. And if you'd like to help with any of that, go to gofundme.com slash more M O R R E Ironheart. Um, yeah, sad deal. Um, Chris was, like I said, in the last year or so, I hadn't had, you know, a lot of people, um, really probably as helpful to me as, as Chris was. So it's, uh, yeah, anyway, that's ends podcast on a real bummer. I was going to mention too, you know, before talking to you, Tyler, I probably, I didn't know who he was, I think. And you showed me something about him, or I had read your article and I started following that. And I've listened to you, Tyler, I didn't know who he was, I think, and you showed me something about him, or I had read your article, and I started following that, and I've listened to several

episodes of Barbell Shrugged, and is that the most popular fitness? Yeah, yeah, pretty much, yeah, as far as like fitness and nutrition, yeah. I'd say they revolutionized the way that you can have a podcast like that a little bit. For sure, you sure. And part of, like, for what I look for with this podcast, the things that would be like my absolute goals would be a lot of the things that they do. One of them being that they didn't do interviews via Skype, really. They didn't do that. They went out and they met the cool people that they wanted to meet.

You could get a lot cooler people if you just asked to have them do a Skype call. You can sure do that but shit that is not near as fun you know it's not like sitting in a room with someone exactly you know how how less cool is last weekend if we you know if we have jonah on via skype it wouldn't be comparable at all it's not the same interaction it's not the same experience and that's one of the you know for the sake of the podcast that's one of the principles we like to hold of the podcast that's one of the principles we like to hold to at all costs i i guess if arnold wants to come on via skype we could make a few exceptions there's a few exceptions but um yeah i mean if if you're not listening to barbell

shred you should check it out not everything is going to be for everybody some of the stuff's more crossfitty than than others but there's a lot of, you know, it is a lot of strength training and coaching. Yeah, that's what I noticed because I'm not into CrossFit necessarily, but I still liked it. And, you know, Chris Moore was really widely respected outside of CrossFit too, you know, a lot of big into powerlifting. Like Louie Simmons, I've seen him mention several things about him and Mark Bell and all the super training guys.

And I wasn't real familiar with him until you guys had had kind of mentioned it a little bit I think I remember you talking about how you had some correspondence with this guy and there's a podcast that you liked a lot and um after I did hear about it I'd seen a few things pop up like people saying like you need to go listen to it was like last episode on um Barbell Buddha and yeah so I went and listened to that one and if you listen to it like if you're to sit someone down and tell them to listen to it it's like yeah this is awesome this is a guy that's like realizing his dreams like he knows exactly what he wants to do it's all working for him yeah and then to say at the end like that guy's dead now it's just like geez like it's yeah it's crazy how you know delicate

life can be with all that stuff yeah but you know the the thing is is like i said that with with his podcast especially his solo podcast is you know the barbell shrug stuff is going to be valuable information. And it is really valuable. It's entertaining, but it's really good information. The barbell poop Buddha stuff is just exceptional. It's a totally different animal. And between that and his writing, that's kind of where I think his legacy will be. And that's kind of where I think he'll have the biggest impact.

So definitely go check out his books when they get re-released here um like i said i i own two of the three i've read the third as an e-book um fortunately they will be released in all three out is like a you know like i said a big a big anthology and buy it you know i really really i can't recommend one of the things that he always said was like, the way that you can tell that you're reading the right book at the right time is that when you're reading it, it feels like it's the most important book you've ever read. And that's what I had with his, with Get Change and with Way Past Strong. So check out his books.

They're, they're really good. They're really great. And, you know, live hard, I guess know the you know the guy enjoyed life one of his favorite habits was uh every friday he did what was called vice friday so he'd have some friends family over they'd work out they'd work out hard uh then he'd get himself some tequila some ice cream you know whatever it is that gets your goat you know that's when you do it you get in this this narrow little window front window in on your friday and you and you earn it so um yeah what i don't know what else to say guys i could end it on a story like let's flip the switch here just let's hear it yeah i don't want

to end on a really sad downer um you know and this is a little bit of a knockoff from a lot of other podcasts uh uh mark bell's. They always tell shit stories. And then this week I was listening to, I think it's How It Works. Is that the podcast? It's a really popular one. And they had a couple that were just about crapping and pooping and stuff. And it was pretty interesting. There's a scale of what your poop should actually look like.

I think I've heard of this. It's an online thing. Yeah, it's a one to seven scale, and it's actually done by a grad program somewhere out there. Anyways, it just got me thinking of a poop story of my own. When I was deployed overseas in the Middle East, and when you're there, anyone that has ever been there before,

they can relate to this too. Like your sleeping quarters, the bathroom isn't in there. There's not a bathroom in there. A lot of times it's like an outhouse or we called them like the shit trailers. And it's just like this trailer that's kind of like the way a mobile home is up on blocks. It's like that. And you go inside and it's just maybe like 10 toilets and some sinks in there.

And then outside of it, there's big tanks of water that supply the water for this and there. And then you also have separate from that is your shower trailer, so they're not attached to each other. The shit trailer and the shower trailer are separate trailers. Usually they're not too far from each other. Also, I guess it's important to mention that uh when you're overseas you're eating out of you know the chow hall quote unquote and it's sometimes the food is better than others and sometimes it gets

a little questionable so you and you're you're in strange elements and everything so sometimes your crap can be just a little bit off to begin with it's just a volatile yeah yeah it's just not ideal you're not at home eating everything you want to probably get in the fiber that you should but uh so i was going into the shower hall and this was early in the morning probably like 6 a.m it was light out but it was real early and i was going into the shower hall and i just got in there and uh uh was like just got my clothes off about ready to get in the shower and all of a sudden like a zero to 100 thing uh i didn't have to crap at all like that and it was literally zero to 100 where it was like oh my god this is like on straight up emergency so i'm sitting in there and they're like i said there's no bathrooms in there all that's in there are showers

and sinks and like i'm like panicking in my head over the scenarios of what I could possibly do right now. And one of my choices would, was try and put all my clothes back on real quick, run over to the other, uh, to the shitter trailer and get in there and take a shit. And you know, that would have been ideal, but it took me about two seconds to process that. I didn't have enough time to do that. Like if I did that, that was going to end with like me crapping down my leg as I run outside. So then I was like, okay, I could go in one of these shower stalls and take a shit and like try and mush it down with my foot. And I was like, just seconds away from doing that. I was like, okay, that's what I have to do. I have no choice.

I'm going to have to take this shit and get down what I can and then just leave it there for the people that clean these things. And then at the last split second, they had a 50-gallon plastic garbage can to throw all your paper towels away, like one of your big garbage cans you'd set up by the street. And there was no one in there. Um, but there's no like windows outside. So you can't tell if anyone's coming, but I was like, okay, I just, I saw the garbage can and I grabbed it and like went over into the corner real quick, like where someone wouldn't maybe notice me immediately if they walked in and just like tipped it over sideways a little bit and like, like held it up to my in and just like tipped it over sideways a little bit like held it up to my ass and just like and just blew it up and then as then you know then you're done and you're not

in a panic anymore and i'm like okay like now what do i do like i have this garbage can full of shit so i just set it over by the door where it normally goes and pulled down a bunch of paper towels and set them over the top of it and took my needed shower at that point in time. And that was the end. So you didn't change the garbage bag or anything? No, no, I didn't. Someone got probably an unpleasant treat with that.

But I was glad I decided to go that route instead of taking the crap in the shower. Yeah, I think you did the best thing. Well, we're not going to have time today, but remind me probably next week. I have a really awesome poop story, too, that I'll probably share. That's a good teaser. It's a great teaser. I'll give a little bit of a teaser.

It is the morning after our wedding. My wife and I are carrying a car full of wedding gifts, driving all the way across the state, and I'll leave it at that. We were married for less than 24 hours, and it is a powerful story. So we'll pick up where we left off with that next week. And guys, I think that'll do it for today. I don't think I did introductions going into it, but we'll... You know the crew.

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