Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 224: Getting Stupid with Tom of Huck Finn Barbell

Episode Date: July 20, 2020

Big Tom "Huck" Finn joins us to discuss beer drinking stories, starting a supplement company in the middle of COVID, and more beer drinking stories. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Welcome back back everyone. We're back in the saddle for episode 224 of the Massanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. We're happy to be back for another one. We've got a guest again today here for 224. It's going to be none other than Huck Finn, Tom Finn, Huck Finn Barbell. We're going to talk to him. It's going to be none other than Huck Finn, Tom Finn, Huck Finn Barbell. We're going to talk to him and it's going to be a very serious conversation. So can you picture how serious this conversation is going to be? I can't even imagine. No, no. Before we get into too much more

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Yes. It's the one where we start talking. Oh, yeah, that's like we're officially have the start topic ready to go uh yes the it's the one where we start talking oh yeah that's right yeah we just go what else did we have today we're going to talk about more bankruptcies more bankruptcies we declare bankruptcies again not us though not not us not this time just everyone that's been buying lift shorts yeah someone did uh comment this happens like once a week where it was on one of them one of the mini lift short memes that we have and someone comments and goes what's the deal and they didn't follow us i checked and click and they go why does everyone talk about these shorts being so expensive i just checked on the site and they're 28.99

and i didn't respond to that. I'm like, I don't even know where to. I know it is a lot. I mean, it is a lot of money, but there's also the emotional toll too. Right. Yeah. You almost can't put a value on that. No, you really can't.

But I usually just wait for someone else to jump in on those, like give some other baloney answer that they're like. You do got to assume that every week there's many, many people that run across and like, I don't get it like what's going on here this doesn't make sense like ah everyone's pissed at this company that's too expensive we should see what's going on something doesn't add up yes and it never really has has it never has and it uh probably never will did you see hate brand goods uh put out the a pair of uh no lift shorts i did that they're kind of coming at us weren't

they does that mean we're like influencers now that we can influence them in such a way we are influencing things every day that's pretty cool yeah yeah so bankruptcies some podcast reviews a can oh a guest a guest all the good stuff good and uh there was a a meet a powerlifting meet and a powerlifting meet too yeah god oh okay we got all types of stuff to talk about it is actually funny because we write down the entire list of things before we get started and then as soon as we get started it's like okay what did we write down without looking at the list let's see what we can recall. Yep. Do you have an important message there, Tanner?

It was our guest. He said he's drunk. Perfect. I wouldn't expect anything else. He goes, you guys Central or Mountain? I'm drunk. Do you think if we said that, that would make a difference for him either way, though?

I don't know how. Yeah. Well, on that that note tanner we should get to our cans right away just all right what's in the can oh man i really hid these back here today hold on a second okay you gotta go headphones off to get all the way back to those cans oh they're on the stove aren't they yeah they're warming up okay no looking okay no looking tanner this is a guess oh oh it's that must be fresh is that fresh out of the toaster oven is it so hot it feels cold is that that is that fresh off the pizzazz you'd actually you'd actually be shocked the number of people in in a week that i get my d DMs making sparkling water recommendations towards me

and also saying like, oh, Tanner would never get this or Tanner would have to get this. Like it's usually framed in the way of like, what would Tanner think of this? Well, if Huck Finn's drunk, we better get through these fast so we can catch up.

Better pep up. I'm going to do a smell first i gotta say the smell here is to me is almost non-existent i was gonna say i could nope nothing but the flavor though there is a flavor there yeah i don't know what that is let me try again there is a flavor there. Yeah. I don't know what that is. Let me try again.

Does, does this, or does this not have alcohol in it? It does have alcohol in it. This is the, I was not positive, but this is the Huck Finn edition. Okay.

I have alcohol. And while I was making a joke about that then, but it's, it's real. I was going to say, if this does not have alcohol in it, they really went on with some weird flavoring here, man.

Let me taste. It's the fermented LaCroix getting stuck in my mustache hairs and flavor is going to be with me for a long time I gotta try one more because one more I'm telling did did anyone say whether I can or can't get this one because I hope they didn't say this one was not discussed this is the wild card on my end I don't really think it tastes like this I don't know what brand of anything this is but maybe like lime but I don't even really think it hardly tastes like that but I'm almost just can't think of anything else all right well. Well, you ready for the unveiling? Yes. It is Bud Light Lime.

Oh. Okay. You got that part right. Yeah. It's crazy how this doesn't smell. It doesn't smell like beer. Actually, when you smell that, I'm like, oh, it's going to be a dead giveaway because it smells like beer, but I don't think I've ever smelled one. If I held a Bud Light up to my nose, it would smell.

I'd be able to tell it's beer. I mean, yeah. I feel like any beer at least has a beer smell, but I've never noticed that. I'm sure if you spilt it on you, it would smell like it. So this is a Bud Light Lime. It's not like a seltzer or anything. This is just their Bud Light Lime. So this is a beer.

This is a straight-up beer with lime flavoring. I don't mind it as a summer beer. You know, get out in that hot. You mow the yard yard tanner you get back you sit on the patio admire your work and have a bud light lime i'll be honest i think it sometimes things taste different when you don't know what it is yep and i would say after knowing what this is it tastes better yeah okay there's like like when you found out that there's actually Carmex in the Lemoncello LaCroix. Yes.

I do. It was funny. Someone recommended before this last episode came out. They're like, you need to try the Lemoncello LaCroix. Didn't they use the word polarizing in there? And yeah, we had some pretty strong feelings on that one. I do really. Now that I know what this is.

Well, the really tricky part is the alcoholic. It does throw it off. This doesn't taste like no matter what. When there's really tricky part is the, the alcoholic. It does throw it off. This isn't, doesn't taste like a, no matter what, when there's alcohol involved, it does change the flavor. Yeah.

Yeah. When I was like, I, and I really, honestly, it's funny. Cause this, so this is a beer.

I could not tell for sure that this was a beer when, before, and I didn't, I was 50, 50, whether it had alcohol in it. I was either like, here's my thought.

I was like, is this some sort of like weird kombucha thing that just tastes like shit or is it like a beer is this a beer that tastes good that's honestly kind of what i think in my head which is a really or good yeah yeah but it's funny how it's depending on what it is it rephrase reframes it in my mind whether it's good or bad and then now the really weird thing in beverages is the fact that so this is a beer with a flavoring in it but like the fact that there's 10 million seltzers and things like that i was shocked to see you know a uh a favorite of mine growing up was the 30 rack of keystone yeah and i was shocked to see that you can get a 30 rack of keystone and there's three different flavors it's keystone seltzer and it has three different flavors in the 30 rack.

Really? Is that Keystone embracing the times or what? That's pretty cool. It exists. It's out there. God, this tastes more like a seltzer than it does a beer though. It is kind of surprising. For anyone that hasn't had one of these.

And they also trick you by the shape of the can. I don't know if they're normally like this. I don't remember summers before this but then being in the tall slim cans but maybe i just never paid that close attention there's other flavors of these two aren't there i think there's like orange and yeah i've this is the only one i've ever had though yeah i was kind of right yeah yeah you said mine oh i thought maybe there was alcohol in it yeah so what would you say would you recommend this you could could you recommend this would you drink this again i would have one of these on occasions never more than i would two would be my absolute limit of these yeah but one of these right now i think tastes pretty good yeah

um it would rarely probably be my first choice though i can i can see that i can see that i uh it is a summertime beverage for me so i i can i can recommend it yeah i would recommend trying it for sure because you should try it that would be the only way to know if you really like it or not embrace that middle class fancy inside all of us yeah for sure um moving right along tanner the show must go on the show must go on. The show must go on. Should we talk about something kind of serious, interesting in the strength world? Not if it's too serious or too interesting.

Okay. Well, all right. It's borderline on both of those. But GNC, everyone's local supplement store, has officially filed for bankruptcy. And this is something did you catch this i saw something about it was about it was right at the end of june when they did it um yeah we had a gnc meme it was ron swanson yes and he and it was right around that time okay

was that inspired by that or not not really maybe subconsciously or something but like and that meme was ron swanson going to the hardwood store and the person starts to walk up to him and he says, I know more than you and just keeps walking. Yeah. Which is what you could say in a lot of GNCs. Right. Or if anyone that lifts any amount of time, you could say in a lot of supplement stores. Right. But.

But a lot of people, the reason I knew something about it, a lot of people commented on there like, oh, GNC went bankrupt. You know? Yeah. That was a common comment. Yeah. And I didn't know about this at all um the reason it popped up on my radar is there is a YouTube channel that I follow um called company man where the guy just talks about companies and where

they're at and how they got there and the video he put out last week was about GNC's bankruptcy and I thought oh cool all right this guy's got this guy's got, it's in a market I kind of understand. I'm curious what his commentary is. And so it goes, that video, I would recommend watching it if you're interested. But it goes really in depth into stock share or stock pricing and stock buybacks and all the stuff with shares and stuff that honestly gets a little over my head. So I don't know completely. I'd have a hard time summarizing that one. But looking at this article here, it says GNC has filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy

with plans to close as many as 1200 of its 5,200 US stores. And it says they are struggling to pay down more than 900 million in debt. That that's that is getting really close to a billion dollars worth of debt yeah like that's a i would assume that's a lot of debt right i suppose it's all relative like that number has to be large for most companies but i suppose it's all relative to everything the way everything else is on their balance sheet i mean i guess if you're apple 900 right million in debt isn't a big deal probably It's probably, right, right. But damn, that just seems like a lot of money. And then talk about coronavirus hit them hard, just a number of things.

But thinking back, I would say at least to me in the Midwest, I would say a lot of people, like their idea of where they got started in a supplement store, where they first learned about supplements growing up was GNC, right? Yeah, I think so for sure. Especially if for a physical store, not the internet, you know, if you're like, especially if you're as old, not that we're dinosaurs, but like if you're a lot younger than us, maybe you just never even went into a store though. Yeah. I mean, I could see how, yeah, if you're in your early twenties right now, GNC might've never had a part in your life, but for most people,

I would think that if you're 30 plus, you probably at least had a few run-ins with GNC. Maybe, maybe you were a regular customer even. And it's funny reading the thing, the video I watched talked about this. This one does too, is that it kind of mentions how GNC positioned itself. And in the nineties, they really positioned themselves as kind of like this hardcore bodybuilding type brand where they had a lot of stuff that didn't really appeal to like your average Joe was more like guys that like, I want to look like Mr. Olympia. I don't ever remember having that perception of GNC. Do you really? No, but no, but at the same time, I mean, like, I don't think it was unusual to go by and go by the store and see posters of actual bodybuilders.

And, you know, whereas a lot of supplement stores it's just like they almost think of themselves like a health store you know you see totally average people smiling with their kids really really white yeah the color white you know like bright yes and just the whole thing feeling as vanilla and stale as possible and like it's just like their pictures are people like running outside and things like that like not necessarily lifting weights and and what i think of gnc now like the front 50 of the store is a little more like that the back 50 of the store is the colorful packaging and the like oh hardcore so when was can you can you think the last time you were in a gnc

not um i've like been in the mall with my son before and us just killing time and walking around and we've walked through there. Let me show you some interesting stuff. Within the last couple of years. And just to see like, what's like, not with the intention to buy anything, but just to see what's on the shelf and what the price tags are,

honestly. But the last time I bought something in a GNC, probably like eight years. I don't know a really long time i would say for me it was probably five ish years ago and it was only it would only be because like you forgot to order something yes i forgot to order something on amazon or whatever and the thing i wanted didn't say it was in stocks i'm like i'm not waiting some amount of time that i don't know i'll just go to gnc hopefully it's there i'll pay five or ten more dollars for it. But yeah, that was probably five years ago. When I first started getting supplements, I,

exactly what you said. I, we went to GNC, me and my couple of buddies that lifted, we got everything from GNC. We'd go make GNC trips together and spend like hundreds of dollars. It was like, boys, we're going shopping. That's what it was like it was and you have you have more memories of the i know you've said this multiple times of the glass case the supplements in the case yeah the premium the premium well it was like uh uh pro hormones are i think were legal were legal okay i think i believe someone people people listening will know much better than me but pro hormones are now illegal can't be sold over the counter like that. Back then, there was really no need for them to be in a glass case

unless, I suppose, people were stealing them. Add to the allure, too. Yeah, I think that's what it was for, but those were prohormones and sometimes testosterone boosters. Maybe once they couldn't have prohormones, the testosterone booster replaced that. And that's probably what's in there now, if still have the case the locked case i'm sure yeah because it makes sense you know but the difference there is i don't even know if there's like any real

clinical evidence that any testosterone boosters really work i don't think so prohormones certainly did something like i think that that's a fact that they you know whether it's you you would assume if it gets to the point where they're like that they you know whether it's you you would assume if that gets to the point where they're like not yeah you know same thing with like what was it ephedrine or ephedra yeah right yes whether they were actually great for you i think it's probably they were doing yeah they did something like there was like an anabolic effect from them yeah and they were like you'd buy things that are like $80 a bottle. I remember seeing things in the case that were like $100 a bottle for like a little bottle. Yeah.

So things that would, to longtime listeners of the show, would be like, that could appear on Supplement Real or Fake, the game we used to play. Without a doubt. Is that a real thing or not? Yeah, ejaculoid. Ejaculoid. Never forget about ejaculoid. Never forget about ejaculoid. That about ejaculoid that's that's the number

one rule yeah so they're closing 25 of their stores that's that's a big deal then to all just shy of 20 25 27 of their stores they're gonna close tanner you understand this much better but filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy doesn't mean you don't exist anymore no not at all you're shuffling around assets trying to get some money pumped back in yep things like that they've got to make some changes in order to stay solvent and they're hoping that if they do this stuff they can do that and but they're you were saying they're they're they're a publicly traded company and their share price is like tanked horribly bad so right here just to give you an idea of their shares it it said shares of the company stock tumbled nearly 25%. This is when this article was written like two weeks ago. So the shares tumbled 25% to close at 61 cents per share down from a peak of $60 in 2013. Wow. Shares are down

nearly 80% so far this year. So $60 to 61 cents in seven years. Talk about a fall, huh? That's huge. I mean, there's no, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand a big reason why that is. You know, part of this at the very end, I'm sure coronavirus affected them like everyone else. But just online competition.

Oh, Amazon. Yes. Amazon bodybuilding.com. Yeah, yes. That timeline makes a lot of sense that in 2013, Oh, Amazon. Yes. You know, like. Amazonbodybuilding.com. Yeah, yes. You know, I think. That timeline makes a lot of sense that in 2013, it would hit, be a, hit its high. And this ever since then, it's like, no way. And also just, I think better retail options exist too.

Like. Yeah. I think one of the bigger, is it like the vitamin shop is one of the big ones. You can buy a lot of stuff at, you can buy way more stuff at Walmart than you could in 2013. Even 2013. A lot of grocery stores, you can just get protein powder at now. Like you could in 2013 in 2013 a lot of grocery stores you can just get protein powder right like i don't even remember that a few years ago in 2013 the only thing you could get from walmart was but two brands there are two choices both like marketed as probably the least premium products you could and they were body fortress and people

that bought stuff from walmart will remember this Body Fortress, which was like a yellowish gold color. Yep, it's still there. And there was Six Star Nutrition, which was a red container. I don't know if those still exist then or not. I don't buy protein often, but I've had Body Fortress in like the last year, and I didn't think it was terrible. No, it's probably. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to know that they've probably improved their formula

in the past six years or so. I would assume to stay in Walmart for that long, they can't sell a complete crap product. You've got to be moving product, too. Right, right, right. But it's a cheap price, generally speaking, I think. I would also assume that the puzzle of figuring out how to make protein taste okay and not be totally disgusting texture wise I think that puzzle's kind of been solved yeah I don't think that's like a like when people to me like when I see people comment that protein tastes great I in my head I think like is there a lot of proteins that taste bad there

might be flavors that you don't like but in general like is there a lot of protein I guess I can't think of a time that I've had a protein or heard someone say they didn't like oh it's so bad we've talked about it before on here I know or at least i know i've mentioned it and my philosophy on that is i do not give a shit i'm not eating i'm not taking any supplements for the flavor i don't care if it tastes like donkey poo if it's going to do something like if there was a powdered supplement that was legal and whatever that that actually did something great and it tasted terrible, I would just suck it down. I'm not like, ooh, protein shake, my favorite. And also, though, how offensive does the flavor have to be

for someone to actually complain and make a deal about it? I have heard a lot of people like, oh, I just don't like the way they taste. I have heard that quite a bit. See, and I'm just so out of the supplement game, and I know you're not really in it either, so we're probably like two of the worst people to be common like right comments on any of this but over my life though i have had a fair share of uh supplements i have a picture that i save that actually when i it was when i lived in my previous house and i laid all my proteins on i don't know if you've seen it before i don't think i have okay i think i get where i laid all my proteins that i currently had and i had like 13 different protein containers all with protein

still in them you know because i just was like into buying them all the different ones and yep like oh this one's better it's kind of that pokemon yeah yes right right yeah i knew people in college that were like that too that was like oh look at like it was almost like a badge of honor we definitely had trophies of empty containers hanging around we had like the top of our fridge was lined with all of our supplements i can say i did have that at one point where the top of the fridge was covered that way when your buddies come over like yeah these guys got some all right this guy gets it yeah this guy's gonna make a podcast one day i can tell with this stack a hidden secret about uh i think this is probably still the case.

Maybe they've changed this policy. But if you do happen to live in a town that's going to continue to have a GNC, they have this policy where a money-back guarantee, where it doesn't matter if the product's been opened or how much of it has been consumed. Where you can return it and say i do i think it's maybe like even a flavor guarantee where you can say i did not like this i would like a refund and you could get your refund and it could be 90 percent gone especially especially when you knew the right people working like there was almost no limits to that policy

okay a little college hack yes that is a college hack. I'm not going to worry about it now because I'm not going to go through the trouble of hassling someone down over a $20 supplement, but that was a good, if you're on a budget, there is an interesting little loophole. Maybe that has something to do with their chapter 11 bank. That's what I wonder. Maybe too many people know about the loophole. Wow. Well, the word's out now if it wasn't before that's right so um gnc it'll be very interesting to uh see how this shakes out with them i'm curious if ours is closing i i'm sure i mean if ours closed i wouldn't be surprised at all no given where it's at yeah no i i'm the state

of things but yeah i'm sure it's potentially on the chopping block yeah um it seems kind of hard to imagine a world that doesn't have gncs at all in some fashion though it's one of those things that's like yes i never am a customer i don't support them in any way but i would like to see them not go away and i don't know why but just like i like there to be a nutrition shop in the mall. Yeah. Yeah. There's that part of it, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. Yeah. And, but, and that's also with me not supporting them in any way whatsoever. I will continue to not spend any money with that company, but.

All right. So once you have your perfect supplement stack built, that will prep you for a meet. And in case you're curious about a meet, was one this past weekend oh yes and that was which is noteworthy just because there aren't really many yeah just because there's almost zero meets right now um and there was a very notable performance at this meet too yeah and that was uh matt at pioneer his was it just the pioneer open is that what they called i think that was matt haddon put on the pioneer open yes and um in coleman texas yes i believe is their where where they make the belts i think it's a town of about 5 000 and this is a little different than in the past few years he had done the pioneer tribute meet

right this was geared as i think he was fed up with a lot of things that went on around that i think so and this was a i would say having to raise all the money yeah having to raise all the money i still think he likes to give back to the lifters in ways i mean he makes it very obvious but um so i think that's what makes him want to keep putting on a meet just yeah maybe take the pressures and the hassles off of having to raise a hundred plus thousand dollars like i i would never want to have to know through with that i think he was also interested in having one in his keeping it in the town yeah you know i know he's big into supporting his local community so i think that was part of it too yes so he had to meet there um from what i can tell just because there wasn't a ton of footage and videos from it um the the the main big lifter dan bell showed up i didn't know he did you know he

was showing up for this never heard of him yeah exactly uh he did kidding dan bell did show up and put up a 2491 total 2491 pounds and he did that with a 1003 pound squat 584 pound bench in a 903 pound deadlift which makes him isn't like the second or third person ever to do a 1900 or 1000 squat maybe the second even yeah yeah so he didn't re-break his world record total not far off within about 20 pounds yeah he's within i think his record is uh it's just over 2500 like 25 12 or something and i think he was relatively on peaked for this i would say maybe you know it wasn't like when he broke the world record i know you like that was all about yeah right right and i think this was a maybe a little more about doing another meet supporting pioneer being a part of it and getting back into it and i would guess it

when he competes he's planning on competing at what is the new tribute meet being called what the it's in i think it's in buffalo new york yeah i was gonna say it's on the showdown is that what i think it's the showdown i think he signed up for that and i would assume that would be where he would plan on you know maybe trying to re-break his record but that 2491 is probably i wonder if that's still the third biggest total of all time i believe it is it would only be whether dan or andre had done another meet you know whether it is. It would only be whether Dan or Andre had done another meet. You know, whether it would, I think it would. Oh, right.

Yeah, and that is what makes it a little tricky when you start an open powerlifting is that they sort. If you have the top three, you don't get numbers one, two, and three. Right. It just puts your. Individuals. Yeah, yeah. It puts you by the strongest people. You could probably filter it away to make it do that.

I'm pretty sure they're still, Andre would be the only person that's totaled more than that particular meet. I think so. I think that's safe to say. So not too bad. Not too shabby, I guess. Keep trying, Dan. One of these years, you'll figure it out. He's probably listening to this and laughing right now.

I'm sure he is. Yeah. Dan Bell, Andre Malanichev second, and that Peter Petras. Is that how you say his last name? Yeah, yeah. He is the third biggest competitor with a total of all time. Yeah, yeah. So, solid performances.

And then, outside of that, I think that's kind of everything we have. We were actually about to add time here, Tanner. All right, perfect. And then we're going to see if, uh,

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Call failed. What is that about? 8-1-5-5-0. He's called. Hello. Hello. Hey! Huck, you are live on the Mastodonics podcast.

We are live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. Oh, hell yeah. Holy shit. Can you swear on this thing? Oh, absolutely. There's no limit to the swears you can do. Yeah, I just got a number from a number I don't know in Aberdeen, South Dakota.

Like, you guys called me, and it went right to voicemail or something. Well, and actually, we want to talk to you about your car's warranty, since we have you on the line here. Oh, shit. What warranty? That's your problem. You don't have one. Hey. Mike. Hey. Go ahead. oh shit what warranty that's your problem you don't have one hey mike hey go ahead we want to know how the uh supplement biz is going i don't know if everyone knows but you were doing the t-shirt thing and you got into the supplements and we're kind of curious from our end how that's

going for you i tell you right now this is the best fucking thing i ever did everybody i talked to told me not to do it too like everybody uh juju mufu uh real world tactical all these guys told me not to do it they said there's uh it's too saturated and i said what the fuck so is the goddamn herald that is very true so so uh you know i was sponsored by red cotton one and uh you know they didn't pay very well. Another company called Dedicated, who I knew the guy running that, paid me a lot more, and I asked Redcon if they'd match. They didn't match the offer, so I went Dedicated.

Well, my contract's up with Dedicated, and they're kind of, I don't know, they're kind of not really paying me as much as I was supposed to be paid. The contract was up anyway. And then MHP, you know, reached out to me and they're going to pay me next to nothing. So I'm like, fuck this man, let's go on my own. You know? So, uh, yeah, I got, I had some connections with the manufacturing motherfuckers and off I went, man. I had a, a kind of a profile that I liked a lot. And I upped some shit and added some stuff. And, man, they got a great flavor and everything turned out good.

It's a hell of a product. It's selling great. Awesome. And that's pre-workout, right? Well, I got pre-workout. And I also have EAAs, BCAs, and like a hydration little amino combo that I got out now, too. Awesome. So do you got your wife packing orders there for you then and stuff she is fucking i mean she packs everything

makes everything she's working like 12 hours a day and mostly at night so uh i might have to hire some more people but she's doing everything uh she'll put the kids to bed she'll go out there and drink beer to like two, three in the morning and just make pack ship all day. And then a little bit during the day, you know, in the afternoon sometimes too. So,

but did you tell her you're kind of the idea, man? So that part's not really your job. You're more of the big picture guy. Yeah. Listen, I'm the one that brings the people to the product, you know,

you just got to fucking sell it, ship it, whatever. You make the mess. She can clean it up. Yeah. I mean, I have a real job too, so I can't, I don't have much time. Yeah. And I wouldn't know how to do that shit anyway. Right.

I don't know how to fucking do that. Are you still a corrections officer? Oh yeah. Prison guard. I'm still prison guard. Every, uh, every day except Mondays and Tuesdays are my days off right now. So that's your weekend. I'm prison guarding.

So this is your Monday right now. Two businesses now. Yeah, today was my Monday. I woke up at 4.30, did rehab and went to work, and then I just finished a workout about five minutes ago. Are you celebrating now by having a few beers? Well, I just made – I've been drinking Tito's and Diet Dr. Pepper through the last couple lifts here, and now I just got me another glass. Okay, so is Diet Dr. Pepper the best thing to mix with vodka, or is that just something that you like to mix with vodka? It's just me and Cal. We're like the North Hillbillies.

We like to mix Diet Dr. Pepper with everything. I was going to say, I think you're like the only person I've ever heard of doing that. Yeah, nobody does that. I think we're the only two, and then we kind of start a little trend. Maybe there's 20 more people doing that. We're having a Bud Light Lime right now. What do you think about that? Oh, I hate Bud Light.

I hate Budweiser. I'm a Miller man. I like Miller Lite, baby. That's right. Miller Light, Pastor Ribbon are the only two beers I drink. So we had booths not too far from each other. Not this year at the Arnold. Of course, it didn't exist.

But the year before that, we were just across the aisle. And I know you, just like us, had a booth planned for this last year and didn't get to go. How did that fare out for you? Did it end up setting you back bad as far as apparel stuff goes or have, has it turned out all right for you? What do you think? Oh no, I think it turned out great. We, you know, we did really well. Uh, you know, I didn't, I had no idea it was going to happen. You know, we,

you know, just like we did, we had so much fucking product because we sell so much at weekend so we had a shitload karen was working i mean every day 12 hours a day making shirts like constantly for like three four months and uh fuck she was so pissed i i never seen her so mad and i'm like oh we'll figure a way out we had to do a sale do something and then all the sales started happening everybody you know uh i think it was man, they fucked the hell out of you guys. I'm going to support you. I'm going to support you. And we had a good support.

So I'm sure you guys did too. Yeah. But you never know how much money you would actually made this year. Because you were there one year. Now you're the second year. Now I've gotten bigger as well. I thought you'd probably make even more than last year. Yeah, there's always that what if factor, you know,

cause you think like your first year that was like the trial and error and like the second year, like we're this well oiled machine, we got the whole thing figured out and we're going to go and kick ass and you, you never really know. So no, that's probably the biggest thing I'd, I'd agree exactly. Like it's been cool, you know, ton of support online from everyone and it's turned out a great year and stuff like that for us too. But that's the biggest thing for how good it's gone. It really pisses me off.

I'm like, God, I want to know what it would have been like if we would have had our booth there. And then it gives us a better idea of what we can expect next year. Because now if, you know, if it goes on again next year, we, you know, then it's been two years since we've been there and you don't really know what to expect so well. You know, your company's grown and stuff, but you don't really know what the Arnold, you know, what the, how that years since we've been there and you don't really know what to expect. So, well, you know, your company's grown and stuff, but you don't really know what the Arnold, you know, what the, how that will be after not being there for two years.

Yeah. And then on top of that, you meet so many more motherfuckers. Yeah. You just keep meeting people and keep networking, keep everything. That's the bad part. Yeah.

And that's the big one for us way up here in South Dakota. You know, we're, uh, we're in the middle of nowhere. So that's our, that's our one big chance to meet people. Yeah. What, what did you, what are you doing for the booth next year. So that's our one big chance to meet people.

What are you doing for the booth next year? So then are you getting a big one or the same? What's your plan if we have it? Well, we'd have the bigger booth. We'd at least have a double booth. What they offered us, double booth or something for cheaper. I think Karen took that. I don't know. She handles all that shit.

Yeah. So we'll have a fucking apparel. We'll have, uh, what supplements we're going to have, uh, pizza strength, you know, at the booth.

We were planning on having pizza strength this year. Um, well, it would be crazy pizza strength. Like Pat, he was going to ride a bicycle for 20 miles or 20 beers. I was going to say, how many of these pizza strength will have alcohol?

Yeah. I think, uh, tank was going to eat, like try to eat 50 or 60 Hooter Wings within 25 minutes or something. I was going to have a whole schedule set up of really dumb shit. Yeah, I like that. Something like that, you know, to drive more attention to the booze. Yeah, I'm sure that would work. I like those.

That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the Huck Finn animal cage over there. Yeah, it's huck finn animal cage over there yeah it's a huck finn animal cage you know it's like it's like the happy gilmore like crowd you know i mean you saw the crowd i brought it's like the happy gilmore people like got sacks beer barnum conway twitty's blaring in the background yeah yeah that's right hey we were talking about jacked and homeless earlier a little bit about the the time he uh came and visited us in Aberdeen.

I heard you and Callis reminiscing about that the other day, too. It was pretty fun stuff. Did he ever talk about that much? Oh, are you kidding me? He talked about you guys all the time. He loved the Masonomics guys. He didn't know you guys that well. He's like, I'm out trucking through South Dakota somewhere.

He's like, do you know any gyms? I said, yeah, there's these Masonomics guys, the only motherfuckers that live out there look them up and i give him he's like well what's your email or the instagram so i sent him the instagram and all that and uh i said yeah look these guys up tell them you're friends with huck spin and they'll take care of you bud and i guess he did and he fucking would not stop talking about it then you guys sent him out a singlet which then he in turn lost his job because yeah explain that so i had this hilarious idea on christmas eve of getting pulled like it was kind of like a blizzard here not blizzard but snowing and shit yeah and uh homeless comes over in his work truck and i said yeah i want you to pull me in a sled and i'll bench press 225 while you're pulling right down the road and he's, yeah, I want you to pull me in a sled, and I'll bench press 225 while you're pulling me right down the road.

And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem. He goes, we won't even show the truck. I'll just show the bumper back so we won't even know who's driving nothing. I was like, no, no, I've got to show this Masanami singlet off. Just get me getting in the truck with the Masanami singlet on. So Karen recorded him getting in the truck with the Masanami singlet on, and he turns around, he has a beard, and says, let's get stupid. The rest is history. Two days later he goes to work he says and uh i mean the video went viral it was yeah it was very it had tons of views and he's got uh his

boss gets in the truck he goes uh steve you're a great worker you know i love you but uh you're fired and he goes what he goes do i need to show you the video and that was it steve lost his job right he had no job like two months just because he wanted the masonomic singlet in the video all he wanted was that masonomic thing and he's very proud of that singlet dude yeah i i still remember that day the video went on and we're like damn this is really crazy like because the video was it was going viral it was taking off yeah and you know we're just laughing about it and tanner remember you going like i don't want to say anything but he technically could get in trouble for that yeah and then drink he's you can see him drinking a beer yeah yeah we found out

like a couple days later that yeah he did get fired for it yeah that's that wild son of a bitch i mean he wasn't drunk when he did it was It was his first year. He did it as a prop. But yeah, it looked bad in the company truck and everything. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, when he came and visited us, we had him sign one of our gym banners, and that still hangs on the wall and stuff. It's pretty cool. Oh, yeah. He loved that, too.

He said he autographed the banner out there. He loved that. Talked about that, too. Well, what was that? Not the year you guys had the booth but the year prior to that right i was uh at jb boss's booth yep yep and um i brought a huge crowd at bosses yes i remember it was a really big crowd holy shit injected homeless was there you know and and i got him up drinking with me we did like the 21 beer salutes i started drinking

beer off the bat yep well i'm autographing shit and somebody goes hey homeless could you autograph this beer can and homeless like almost started crying and i noticed i mean he was shaking so bad he's so nervous so in my head i'm like well i gotta save this guy he's fucking there can't be shaking like this i go hey look at homeless he's fucking uh he's got the the shakes because he needs another beer somebody get him him another beer he's just so nervous like i've never been around something like that yeah yeah you know he's just a hillbilly farm kid from out here and you know the cornfields of the uh illinois he is a good guy though a really nice guy i can't imagine anyone not getting along with him oh yeah he'd do anything for you give the shirt off his back to you yeah yeah

but uh yeah he was i mean he'd go with me on all the trips he was like uh my bodyguard my beer drinking buddy he was everything and then uh he had a he had a heart attack swimming i guess i was up in michigan when it happened with a stripper in a river well so he was with a stripper in a river swimming on like a tuesday afternoon and i guess uh he had a heart attack and they, they paid to get him out of the water and he was, he was gone. So that was the end of Jack and homeless. Yeah. I imagine that if, if you could,

if he could have picked the way he would want to go, I suppose that's probably would, would have been right up his alley though, I guess. Yeah. I'm sure he had a great night the night before with her and, uh, and then the next day, you know, you're swimming and, you know, that's one of the craziest funerals probably the craziest definitely the craziest maybe the craziest i'll ever witness was his funeral like uh there's just so many uh what do you call them widows i mean he must have

30 widows there and you know he's like a fireman so they did all the you know last call stuff sad and then his dad turns around and pops open a bottle of whiskey and everybody starts drinking like it's a party people are throwing bottles on the grave the grave's down but the i knew the grave digger so he just let us party there for like three hours yeah girls are taking their panties off throwing them on top of the casket all kinds of crazy shit cigarette butts it was nuts wild damn that that is not your traditional funeral that's for sure but but i'm absolutely sure that's that's probably the way you would want it i think that was definitely the way you'd want to go out i remember i got a picture of the top of that casket it was

covered in like i said panties beer bottles cigarette butts everything yeah wow yeah he was a wild man yes he was um and he loved south Dakota. Yeah, that was, he drove, also, you know, South Dakota's a big state. Where he was driving through, he drove, like, round trip probably six hours out of the way to come up to the team. Way out of the way. Way out of the way.

Nowhere close, that is for sure. And I don't know who he was driving for at the time or whatever, but I wonder what they thought about him making a six-hour detour. He pulled a semi right in the mathematics gym he did right I remember I can picture it like it was yesterday and and you know I knew he was coming so I called a bunch of the guys we had like five or six guys all come just because he was coming you know so we were all he was he was benching that day he uh worked up to a 455 or 475 bench or something like that and we had you know five

six guys in there that weren't even lifting they just came just to yell at him while he was lifting and stuff he loved it awesome i love it man i'd love to come up there i need to get up to that man that's i was talking about that i got a camper now oh that's perfect so i got this big ass camper it's like 38 foot fucking long and i it's, dude. I don't even know how the biggest thing I ever pulled is a little fucking like 16 foot enclosed trailer. And, uh, I bought way too big of a camper.

Uh, I'm leaving Friday to the mountains, uh, the Appalachian mountains down in like Knoxville area. So it's going to be fucking nuts. I got 15 cases of beer already packed, uh, one toothbrush and a pair of swimming trunks is about all I brought. cases of beer already packed. One toothbrush and a pair

of swimming trunks is about all I brought. Just the essentials. Karen's packing with a bunch of bullshit. We got to get you to come this way sometime. Hang out, maybe bring Callis with you or something. Yeah, we could drink this fucking camper and I'll park right out there in Aberdeen.

Park it right in your gym. Right in the gym parking lot, just like homeless. I could spend like a month there. No reason to leave. If I spend a month there, it's easy. I got a place to sleep and go right to the gym and it'd be perfect. Just bring your supplements with so you can ship them out. Stop at the post office each day and send out the supplements and t-shirts.

You guys got a post office there? Oh, absolutely. There ain't much we don't have here. How big it everything pretty big for south dakota it is we're about what's big 25 000 we're the third biggest oh yeah that's yeah yeah we're the third biggest city in in the state oh my god all the modern how close is that to mount rushmore uh six hours yeah hold on what side of the state are you guys on? We're on the fucking West side. No, we're on the Northeast corner and mouth Rushmore is the Southwest corner.

So we're about as far away as you can get. Oh, okay. North. Okay. That's closer to me then. Yeah. Yeah.

We're, we're, we're not too far from Minnesota. Oh yeah. You guys sound like you're from Minnesota. You sound like that Fargo. Right. How's it put the boat,

right? Got to stick to our roots, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Right? How's it put the boat right? Got to stick to our roots, you know? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love it, man. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's no weightlifting stuff. Well, I guess you got bodybuilding.com out there, don't you? Somewhere in South Dakota or Idaho? No, that's, yeah, that's Idaho.

That's Idaho. No, we don't. We might be. There's like nothing, right? We're on our own island out here. Yeah, I was going to say, Mastodonomics is probably the biggest lifting- company in in the state getting close to it state probably in the tri-state could be north dakota south dakota what other dakotas are over there yeah but west east and

west nebraska is basically you know in the same line so nebraska is not much out there either i've been to nebraska a few times i've been to south dakota a bunch of times too i never knew the massonomics guys i mean years ago but all day i know all i got out there is a wall drug and some other shit yeah yeah all drug and massonomics that's what else do you really need the essentials yeah nothing that's it brother hey how's the so you tore a peck again and this is the other one i think then you tore the first time how how's that uh recovery going well the recovery's going great i'm way ahead of schedule uh the doctor you know said he doesn't need to see me anymore and it's only been like 12 weeks uh the physical therapist i'm working with through

my like insurance company said i don't need to keep going but i said do you think they're saying this is paying for it so i still want to go do you think they're saying this because they're afraid to deal with you or because they think you're you're recovering both both well i got a guy that's jacob ross guy yeah who's you know he's done a lot of like he did rehab for a lot of like major sports athletes professional athletes uh luau, he recovered his pec tendon real quick. He used to play for the Bulls. I guess he tore it out when he was in L.A. or something, and he came back to play basketball in four months.

So I'm on that pace right now. I'd say another six weeks or so, I'll probably be benching 300, 400 pounds. Nice. And then by Christmas, I want to bench 500 again in a meet. So that's the plan. Everything's going as planned. I mean, everything feels great, light. My mobility has been back for four weeks, probably a week or two after I got out of

the sling. So after. I got quicker Cooper powers, pal. I'm a Finn, you know, we drink beer and we recover fast. I guess. How does, how does this one compare to the, to the first one you did? Is it easier, worse? Do you know what to, what one you did is it easier worse do you know what to what to expect yeah it's i know what to expect uh i knew when i did it fucking it's a terrible injury i was so mad i knew exactly right away i was thinking how

long my recovery is going to be like i was just thinking all that shit because it was so long i mean within six months i'm pretty much back but it took a full year to be really back that time. So I'm hoping to recover even faster. I mean, last time was fast. I mean, they told me I never even benched my body weight again. I'm benching like mid-five. Yeah. I'm going to be the first guy to bench over 500 pounds with two pec tents.

Yeah. I don't know anybody who's done both of them. There's a lot of people that have torn their pec tendon, but not maybe they've torn two of them. After they're reattached, are they stronger than they are to begin with? Or what's the deal? I hope so. I hope so. I don't know. They say

it's good, but you don't know. I've been benching over 400 pounds since I was 16, 17 years old. It's 20 plus years of benching over 400 pounds. Right. Right.

Uh, it's just a lot of wear and tear and I'm an idiot. I go heavy a lot, drink a lot of beer and shit, you know, it's bound to happen. It's a risk, you know, I'm willing to take. It's funny though, out of all the ridiculous shit you've done in the past, the times you tore your pec, you weren't, I mean, you were just lifting heavy. It's just normal. Yeah. It's just normal shit.

Like everyday training. Yeah. I've never really, I guess I cut my finger off at times deadlifting. No big deal. Just cut your finger off. Yeah. I never really got very injured or nothing. You know, I did a lot of dumb shit where I could have stuff could have went way bad, way wrong.

Right. But like, like pretty good callous on the leg press squatting. What if he fell forward with the barbell? You know, I would, yeah, that would have been catastrophic. Looking back on it.

Yeah. That was very, very dumb. That was my idea on the way to the gym. I just called him. Hey, you want to do this? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I just, I don't know. Somehow I came up with it. I was like, he's a good squatter. I can incline bench at the same time.

Yeah. You know, this, this shit, this could work. So we got him up there and we had a bunch of guys there so we loaded the weight up you know we got them all loaded up on there and then we started going to hand me to the bar then they immediately got the weight off talus's back they got my shit i mean it worked out good it looks awesome and it could have been bad but it was it went good yeah uh so we we've got our little game we play each week it's called overrated underrated and we've got

four topics special for Huck Finn Barbell today if you want to play you just we give you we give you a topic and you just got to decide whether it's overrated or underrated you can't ride the line in between you got to say either overrated or underrated and you can tell us why too are you down to play I'm always down let's go brother okay topic number one overrated or underrated joe diffy underrated joe diffy and he's dead rest in peace yeah yep i love joe diffy that greatest hit album i put on repeat fucking i wore the cd out what's your what's your favorite joe yeah probably well probably besides jukebox right now yeah probably his pick definitely pickup man is that joe diffy pickup man's good yeah there's a lot of good ones but yeah probably Well, prop me up inside the jukebox right now. Prop me up, probably. Definitely.

Pickup Man, is that Joe Diffie? Pickup Man's good. There's a lot of good ones, but yeah, prop me up inside the jukebox. I've always loved that song. And now I play it all the time for homeless, so that's my favorite. Yeah. So you said underrated? Definitely. Okay.

I don't care. It's way underrated. Way underrated. Yeah. Okay, topic. I think everything you're going to say is going to be underrated. You never know. It might be. We'll see here. Overrated or underrated,

Old Milwaukee's best. Oh, Beast Ice? Yeah. Oh, that's... Man, I don't know. That's a toss-up they gotta pick one i think it's overrated we're a little walkies best uh well maybe that's a tough one i didn't know this game was gonna be this hard

i'll go underrated okay i'll go underrated i drank it multiple times i haven't drank it in a while i used to ride this rail okay and uh the calve illinois is called riding the rail is the old man rail you drink 10 old man beers it's like old style walkie schlitz strohs and all those beers on there well i remember i brought my girlfriend there who's my wife at the time i was going to show off you know so i was going to win you a shirt you drink 10 beers you get a free shirt so i won it i wrote it again i went backwards it was four days back 20 beers and those beers man oh man they go down a little a little slow in the beginning but they're going down fast at the end i won her two shirts she was very impressed yeah uh you know like at the arnold i don't know if

people know if you're really drinking or you're just messing around but i can witness firsthand that a lot of times there you're really drinking a lot of beers at the arnold you are really drinking yeah yeah we can say that for sure i got so fucked up i mean that first night or two nights i was fucking drunk holy shit by the time i like went out got pizza or something that night there's a video of me just slurring my words swearing yelling at people walking by hugging random people i mean i was i would imagine i drank 30 plus at least maybe more than that at the arnold every day yeah and the craziest thing about the arnold is it's not easy to go to the bathroom when you need to either

so so you're really brave pulling that off i'm not sure i could handle that oh well i was doing human wool and i was peeing in the pedialyte bottles yeah yeah inside a little i'd be peeing and i go around and people shake my hand they're like i'll check yeah yeah i just peed back there i'd have like 30 bottles lined up of urine i mean it was dude i that might have saved my life not having an arnold year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because Monster, they gave me the big Monster cooler. I filled it with beer every day. I mean, ice cold beer.

Yeah, it was good. I was always confused. I don't know if they don't, must not really enforce it. Are you supposed to have beer in there or not? Or don't they? No, no, no. There's a fitness event. There's no beer inside. But they didn't seem like they, there's quite a few people around drinking beer.

They didn't really enforce it. It must – you know, it just must be – No, yeah. We snuck it in with our stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah. So I'd sneak about, you know, I don't remember, 15, 20 – probably 20 cases. We had a lot. And then we'd run out.

People would try sneaking in for us and shit. It was wild, man. Yeah. Look, people were bringing us bottles of Dom Perignon and vodka. There's all kinds of shit people were bringing us, too. Just got to know a guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Hawk, just sharing this with me.

All right, let's go. I'll drink anything. Let's go. Moonshine. I mean, everything was brought to the booth. Overrated or underrated, Wrigley Field. I'm a huge Cubs fan. And it is, there's no way it can be underrated.

Uh, because it's so well known. I mean, it's almost overrated. I would say really feel this overrated. I've been there numerous times. I've been there. There's a good story. When I was there as a kid, I met, uh, Harry Carey. There's a picture of my pap. Uh, Pappy's got my old man of me getting harry carey's autograph as he's coming out of the urinal and he goes i asked him to sign i mean i was a little couch by seven years old yeah and he looks at my dad he goes you got a pen i still remember that but uh i've been drunk so many times at wrigley field i i don't ever remember fuck i almost got in a fight with a pitcher there uh I was sitting behind

it was the Cubs White Sox game sitting second row behind where they used to have the warm up the bullpen was right there down the first and third base lines well I got in an argument with this guy he used to pitch for the Cubs then he went to the Sox and I was on his ass all day

like I thought we were going to fight that's how bad it was. And he, as you fat, as you fat piece of shit, I kill people like, you know, and just,

yeah. So the, the last thing he does something to me at the end and he goes walking away, the game's over. And I yell at one of the guys coming out from the outfield. I said, Hey, could you get,

I gotta forget his name now, whatever his name was. Hey, could you get him? I used to play college ball with him, you know? So he thought I played college baseball with this guy. So he went and tapped on the shoulder. He points back at me and he looks at me and I flick along. I said, name now. Whatever his name was. Hey, could you get him? I used to play college ball with him, you know? So he thought I played college baseball with this guy. So he went and tapped on his shoulder.

He points back at me. He looks at me. I flick along. I said, fuck you, you cocksucker. I got the last word. So that was great. But I've had a lot of good times at Wrigley Field, man. Holy shit.

But yeah, I mean, it's got to be overrated. I mean, it's so well-known and popular. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's no way. It's not underratedrated there's no way in hell okay all right last one overrated underrated rollerblades oh rollerblades yeah those are definitely underrated man rollerblades are fun i still rollerblade right now i fucking look like an idiot but i'm out the country you know going by the cows rollerblade and shit i mean i squatted what 400 pounds on rollerblades i was gonna say you got quite a

few videos sporting rollerblades rollerblades ice skates you know but uh most of those rollerblades were way too small and uh yeah i thought we were gonna have a problem just because how small they were that uh the ice skates were too small. The high heel deadlift, I had to cut the backs of them out. I almost broke my leg doing that. So, yeah. Definitely rollerblades are underrated. I think they will make a return.

Well, there we have it. Yeah, there we go. What about Miller Lite? Overrated or underrated? Well, we already know what you're going to say about that. Hold on. I got one for you. North Dakota. Overrated or underrated? Well, we already know what you're going to say about that. Hold on. I got one for you. North Dakota. Overrated or underrated? That's tricky because do you think of it as far as the

Dakotas go or as far as a state in general? The state. North Dakota. I don't know that it's rated all that high. It's rated pretty low. It's got to be underrated. There's no way that it's rated all that high. I don't know that. That's the thing. It's rated pretty low. It's got to be underrated. There's no way that's overrated.

They have the movie Fargo. They have the city Fargo, and they have the NDSU football team. Bison football team. Oh, yeah. They're going to state. Yeah. What do you think, Tommy? Maybe you answer.

What do you think? I don't know i mean it's it's probably a little underrated just because they're rated so low i think when you're at the bottom of the scale yeah yeah i don't think highway two up there right yeah what's that called the uh uh when that runs from it was like portland or something yeah yeah yeah so my old man is gonna ride his bicycle next summer fromland or something all the way through yeah so my old man is going to ride his bicycle next summer from like oregon all the way through highway 2 all the way to like new york wherever the fucking ends up at oh i didn't realize that's pretty cool because we were up there one time and uh yeah we didn't see a car for like 45 minutes yeah oh yeah i remember driving that highway and i also remember them having gates that shut the interstate off on the on-ramps.

Like if there's a bunch of snow or a blizzard or something, they'll shut down the interstate. Yep, roads closed, gates are up, and yeah, you're stuck. Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, I remember that trip. Pappy packed 15 cases of Pabst

and a toothbrush. He really did. He'd buy new stuff in every other state. He'd just throw his clothes away and then buy shit like at a Walmart. Utah Ute stuff one day, UCLA shit next day buy some north dakota state stuff when he's going through dakota state uh god also i remember he stopped in i was probably 16

or 17 but i remember he went to a strip club we were in the hotel me and my brother and he went to a strip club he comes back he was in wyoming casper maybe or something he goes holy shit these are all these fucking women we're strip clubbers see my wife and they don't have fucking paths out we're out of here we used to take trips all the time like especially out west you know so i'll be back we will be back uh to aberdeen yeah you're always welcome that trailer there brother yep uh where where do people find the supplements the shirts and the let's get stupid be back to Aberdeen. You're always welcome. Take that trailer there, brother. Where do people find the supplements, the shirts, and the Let's Get Stupid podcast and all that stuff now?

Let me tell you something, brother. Let's Get Stupid podcast. We need to get the boys from Aberdeen on there. Yes, let's do it. Let's Get Stupid podcast. I don't even know where you can find that. Where can you find that? Probably where the podcasts are found. Where can you find that? Probably where the

podcasts are found. It's on everything. iTunes, Spotify. We can find everything from Huck Finn Barbell on Instagram with all my links. Huck Finn Barbell.com or Huck Finn Barbell. Anywhere else. Everything's Huck Finn

Barbell. Supplements. Protein coming out next week except i won't be home uh you got a protein isolate and strawberry lemonade hooch is coming out which is a good pre-workout so we got hooch white lightning and uh prison punch i like that that's a lineup right yeah oh man it's good shit so uh in mississippi mud that's gonna be the chocolate flavor that's the first one coming out for the isolate that's good too yeah i like that i like your naming scheme you got going on there yeah something catchy and then i had my tattoo artist kind of do though a tattoo artist and fucking made like i have one tattoo

a buddy of mine fucking designed the label and it like the label a lot. It turned out good. It kind of sticks out. I said I wanted to stick out and be different. I don't want to be like everybody else. Fuck that. You're from North Dakota. You guys stick out. It's different.

That's what we got going. I mean, have you heard us? Yeah. Fucking guys talk like they're from the movie Fargo. They got their own gym and their own line and everything. It is good. It sticks out, dude. I mean, if you're just some other idiot from a fucking city somewhere,

you'd be nobody. That's right. Just an average guy. Now you guys are fucking guys from the Dakotas. Yeah, I love those guys. That's right. Something different. That's damn right.

If you guys are ever in Chicago, I'm about, I don't know what, an hour and a half west of Chicago, hour on a good day. Yep. So you get out past the suburbs, come out to the country a little bit here, and you guys come over any time. I'm in the shed right now as we speak. Let me paint you a Birmingham. I'm in the shed.

Just finished my drink, finished all my workout up, and looking at a girl's set of tits here. Some old lady. I've seen that picture on your wall in the shed before. Everybody thinks it's Karen. She's pissed because this lady's face is about a one. She's wearing Jordan ass jeans, but she's got a decent set of Hooters

on. We were at a Turkey testicle festival in a town by us. I remember we all went up there. She kept showing her boobs, so I took a picture. It was with those old cameras, too, like the Kodiata wind-ups. It's back in, i don't know maybe 2003 like the disposable ones yeah yeah yeah so i remember getting it printed i don't know if they were gonna print or not and uh they blew it up and uh yeah i remember taking their picture and i said

yeah it's gonna go on the internet and then the the husband goes, you're that babe. You're going to be on the internet. You're so excited. Proud of it. And now she has been on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. I have no idea who that lady is, but it's the funniest picture ever. You made her put,

maybe I'll put it on my Snapchat. So they want to race it. Yeah. I'll show you the face. Go to my Snapchat. It's Huck Finn Barbell. I'll take a picture before I leave. Perfect.

But it's fucking great. My dad's the one with the beer can in his hand pointing at the tits. The one who said a hand pointing at it. Thanks for coming on. We'll do it again sometime too. No problem, brother. Like I said, if you guys are ever out here, come see me in Calais.

Sounds great. Awesome. We'll do. All right, you cocksucker. I got two words for you. Okay, bye. Was waiting. All right, see ya. Thank you.

Ooh, Mr. Huck Finn. Yeah. He's never short a story or two. Never short a story or two. Which, it's like, how has that guy not had a podcast forever, you know? That's exactly right. It's a good fit for him. Yeah, the Let's Get Stupid podcast.

I think they're pumping out a new episode every week now. It comes out on Wednesdays maybe, and it's him and Tom Callis are the normal hosts, and he brings Pappy. He talks about Pappy several times. I think they bring him on occasion, and it's a lot of what you just heard there is what they cover on the podcast.

I'd be quite surprised if anyone that listens to this is not familiar with who Upfit is. That's true. Yeah. There's got to be some audience carry over here. A little bit, I would think. Yeah. I hope someday, I think someday, he's talked about it for a few years here. He has talked about it for several years.

I think someday he actually is going to come here. I wouldn't be surprised if someday he messages and says i'm gonna be there next weekend yeah that would not surprise me and then we'd have to get him in the gym to do some sort of oh god you know he'd have to do this is a gym where you can do whatever you want and so like let's get the fire going and the beers and yep anything is possible yeah so that's our guest for today did we have anything else to Tommy, that we needed to cover? That's probably about it. Okay.

We got some, by the time you're hearing this, possibly this week, new stuff is coming out. Yeah. So be on the lookout. If it's not out this week, it will for sure be out the next week. Yes. And we're excited about this one. This is, I mean, I know we say that every time. We always bullshit about that. We're excited about this one. This is, um, I mean, I know we say that every time we always bullshit about that.

This is might be our, do you think this is our biggest drop ever or one of our biggest drops? One of our biggest, one of our bigger ones, right? This is a lot of cool stuff, a lot of new stuff and a lot of stuff just in general. Yeah.

Uh, the other thing is the podcast supporting membership. Yes. So the levels just to recap, the levels can never clarify this enough we want to be completely transparent with everyone yeah we don't want anyone we're not understanding the level there's no hidden fees we're not price gouging the it's what you pay we're trying to be 100 up front with the level what you see is what you pay no surprises here

no uh uh uh like service service fees there you go that's the word yeah none of that yeah No surprises here. No, like what? Service fees. There you go. That's the word. Yeah, none of that. Yeah. Okay. So the entry level is the apple pie level.

You all know the apple pie, a fan favorite, 99 cents per month. Level number two, tier two. Is it levels or tiers or some of both? We got to get that pinned down still. Okay. So we don't know that for you we don't have that part but the pricing is very clear step two maybe it's a step maybe it's a step is the lacroix level the next rung on the ladder too though that's true we gotta

figure out the best way to communicate this to people because there's so many ways to you know a step goes up and over it could also also be the next level of the pyramid too. Like it is. Cause it is a pyramid scheme. No, but it's not. No, no,

it's not that. Okay. So the second one is the, or you could say deeper down the funnel, even maybe that's true too. Cause it, you know, it gets to a point that funnel,

you know, the, the way that we could really hammer this out is we get one of those white, a white, really large white post it. Well, not a marker board, but where you're you're in a big uh business meeting and they're writing down ideas and they flip it over and then they tape it that one up they rip that one out put it on the wall like the giant post-it board because there's so many good ideas going about

that you have to make sure they're all written down so everyone can see them and then they you'll leave them on the wall for like three days or until the series of meetings is over and then someone i don't know who has to throw those in the trash eventually. But you skipped one step. You take a picture so that you make sure you never look at it again. I live that in real life. I live that pretty regularly. I've seen it happen within multiple businesses.

I do that exact thing that we're doing, what we're talking about here. So the LaCroix is step two, $3 per month. Getting a little fancier. Step three, rung three, level three, tier three, the lift shorts, $6 per month. You would think that that's the most expensive, but there was a series of events that arose. And we're in the year 2020. Anything is possible this year. Some really rich, rich people emerged as fans that we didn't know we had.

We had to create the Lift Platinum Club. The Platinum Lift Club, I think is actually the correct... The Platinum Lift Club. It's so elite, we hardly even know the name of it. Right. And odds are you can't afford it. I don't even know if I should say the price because you can't afford it. It's $20 per month. You can't afford it i don't even know if i should say the price because you can't afford it it's 20 per month you can't afford it you can't just don't even look at that level you

can't there are a few that can't afford it yeah but you can't no you can't this isn't reverse psychology you really can't afford it and then beyond that not really a tier or a step it's more of a conglomeration of all of those is the swim hat grand slam yes and that is purchasing all of the levels and you also can't afford that because it doesn't which that's not a joke he has all the levels so yes all the rungs he's got the full ladder he has every step yeah he's gone up and down the steps he knows the ins and outs of them he might have to tell us if it's steps or rungs because he's the up and down the steps he knows the ins and outs of them he might have to tell us if it's steps or rungs because he's the only one that's climbed all of them he is the only one that he's the only one that's up at the top looking down at everyone else maybe

it's mount everest the whole thing is mount everest and right now he is the only person at the summit that could be it yeah he's the and he's just sitting up there with a baseball bat and a bucket of balls whacking grand slams out of the park over and over but if you want to join any of these clubs your next question is well how do i do this very easy massonomics.com slash join ah you're in you can be in just like that that's the final piece of the puzzle what was it massonomics.com slash join join massonomics.com slash join back or front forward slash it's the slash you use for everything like to always most people don't even know it's just the slash you use for everything we've talked about that before it's the one on

the keyboard that you can find without like 10 minutes of searching the other one you don't realize you're probably gonna have to look a while to find it because like do i have to hit like control shift and end this button? I use a Mac, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on a PC. It's the one I think is, like, just above the enter key. The other one, I don't even know where the other one's at. That's a pretty big key for being the slash, too, isn't it? Because it's, like, bigger than the enter key, isn't it?

Some keyboards do it different. That's, like, where keyboards get a little different. Some of those extra keys, they handle all the spacing and sizing. What's it? A QWERTY? QWERTY keyboard, yeah. QWERTY. keyboards get a little different they uh some of those extra keys they handle all the spacing yeah sizing yeah what's a qwerty qwerty keyboard yeah also scientifically proven not to be the most efficient keyboard yeah there's uh there is several um different formats uh dvorak is one of the uh i think more popular ones that yeah would you ever try i would never know because it just means every single keyboard used for the rest of your life you'd be like ah yeah i'm used to the devora you know like this qwerty what's this shit yeah um yeah i wouldn't change just for that yeah um yeah there

there's there's quite a bit of science and things behind it if you look into it and qwerty is the top yeah q-w-e-r-t-y yeah you did everyone you can't say that without doing this with your fingers you can't say that without doing this with your fingers. You can't say that without picking up your fingers. Yeah. Do you consider yourself a good typist, Tanner? I think I'm not too bad. I don't know what my words per minute are.

I think I type quite a bit at work. I have to do a lot of writing of summaries. I have to summarize a lot of stuff in Word documents quite often. I'm probably not great by today's standards. Yeah. But I'm not too bad. I don't know. Yeah. I don't think of myself as a good typist. I'm by no means bad, but I just like, to me, a good typist is like a hundred plus words. No, I'm not that. I figured I'm like between 60 and 80, just taking a pure stab, thinking back to like junior high when I actually had to do my word for a minute. I would put myself probably more in that 60 area. Okay. Maybe that's probably where I'm at. I guess.

Shortcuts. Oh, I can just hammer out shortcuts. Well, yeah, you know, a lot of stuff like, and like the programs you use,

you're probably like super efficient at those programs too. Like I, I probably in my head have, I'm probably, I don't think I'm exaggerating. I think I have over 500 shortcuts. Like, yeah,

it's pretty crazy. Time is money, baby. Yeah. Well, especially when that's literally, I mean, that's literally true. When that literally is what pretty crazy time is money baby yeah well especially when that's literally i mean that's literally true when that literally is what happens is time is money so how do they what if someone wanted to hire you to do uh graphic design work oh you can hop on over to tommy d creative we don't really bring that up very don't bring it up too often i mean we don't

need just massonomics is enough for people to try and wrap yeah yeah yeah if you're ever interested in design projects uh tommy d creative.com um i'm not going to try and wrap their heads around. Yeah, if you're ever interested in design projects, TommyDCreative.com. I'm not going to try and convince you. I'm not going to try and sell you on something I can't do. So if I can't help you out, I'll tell you, or I'll point you in the right direction. But if I can help you out, I'm excited to see what I can do. You have a pretty good portfolio of work on the website too, don't you?

There's a pretty good portfolio on there. There's some Mathonomic stuff in there. There is some Mathonomic stuff. I will admit, if you're hopping on there, it is a little dated. I've been incredibly busy for um i mean coming on a year here so i've not done the best job the last year updating that thing so a lot of stuff in there is outdated but um it does give you a taste of some of the things i can do cool all right well that's most of our stuff uh the ads yeah i probably should do some of those today's show was brought

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