Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 253: Jessica Buettner

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

We welcome Jessica Buettner (The Canadian Forklift) to the podcast this week to find out about all the finer parts of life in Saskatoon Saskatchewan. We find out what the Royal Canadian Mounted Police actual do, and she teaches us how to pole vault. Stay tuned for when Jessica comes to Western North East South Dakota to compete in Highland Games with us. Hybrid Performance Method: https://hybridperformancemethod.com/ and use code MASS to save 5% on all programs Lifting Large: https://www.liftinglarge.com/ and use code MASS20 to save on Lifting Large branded products Spud Inc.: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. This is episode 253 of the Masanomics podcast on the road to the five-year anniversary i always love um countdowns count ups thresholds uh i mean there's got to be that next thing out there for us right really that's at this point that's like almost the only thing that can keep us going is invisible are these fake these fake goals yes yes otherwise these otherwise what's the point otherwise meaningless goals outside of the fact of just what the goals are like it means nothing like we get there and then nothing really happens but that that's what we have to have speaking of that we did hit one of these meaningless goals but we'll get more to that after these ads probably ah yes the ads our favorite four sponsors are back again

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To learn more, visit them at texaspowerbars.com. So we do have a lot to get to. We have a guest again. It's Jessica Bittner. We'll get to her at about the midway point of the show. We've got to come back to the road to 300. We have to follow up to see how that went after last week. We have a can segment we're going to do.

We really have a sack segment that's, Oh, we do. That kind of goes along with the can segment. You know, it's been sitting there for so long, Tanner. I actually just assumed it was a box of garbage that I was being lazy and not taking out. I didn't know there was actually a segment there. No, that's a segment. Good. I'm glad you didn't throw away that segment.

That's, you know, as part of our world, world sack segment tour, and we had to make a pit stop at one of the, uh, the most important stops in the world, Alabama, our friends in the deep South. Yes. The deep South heart of the Alabama contingency, the hashtag Alabama contingency, as they would say. So that's kind of a list of, that's the short list. Well, we might even talk about a YouTube video that we've had on our to-do list for three weeks now. That's true. We probably should bring that up too.

Other than that, probably the most important thing of all of those not previously mentioned is the weather. The weather here in Western North and South Dakota. What do you think about that tommy tanner i saw a fun fact in the paper and i don't know if you saw this the aberdeen american news that that one all right that we had zero days in january where the temperature was below zero below zero insane like has that ever happened ever i didn't actually read the article i just read the headline but january typically being one of you know maybe our coldest month of the year i would suppose um wild stuff that is but it's gonna be time it is coming the piper i've seen i've seen the news here it looks like it's gonna be hitting us soon yeah so uh when we record this time next week i

bet we are going to be our our giblets are going to be have become frozen off by that point in time yeah aren't they saying like negative like tens twenties yeah highs of single digits like highs throughout the day of single digits and if it when it gets windy when it's like 20 below that's when you're like yeah it's not safe to be outside like just walking to a vehicle say an aberdeen tanner and aberdeen the wind doesn't blow, it sucks Maybe that was from Full Metal Jacket or something I don't know, I can't keep it all straight And what about if you don't like the weather

Just wait five minutes That's what they say around here That is what they say So that's the weather update for now but we will have more to update you on that as we get into this. Well, naturally. People are going to be worried. We'll keep everyone updated. It does seem like the first time

in a long time where it looks like the rest of the country is having major storms and that's not us. I take great... It brings me much happiness, much joy when other parts of the country are having a giant snowstorm

where they're scooping out feet of snow. I'm like, oh my gosh, that is great that that's not us right now. For some reason, that is not us. I'm like, oh, you poor bastards. I feel bad, but not really. Sometimes good things really do happen. And by good things, we mean bad things to other people yeah that are

not us exactly so god where should we start tanner where should we start oh what about that should we start with the can we can do that can okay this is a can from alabama right yes ship direct this is part of the alabama package you did tell me to put it in my fridge yesterday i did open the package grab cans out i didn't see what they were so you didn't other than the fact that this is a white can i don't know what we're in for here so this is a what's in the can this is from alabama sponsored massonomics athlete jonathan oldham who is competing at the hybrid meet hybrid showdown yep uh coming up real soon yeah he had a highlight reel tonight yeah and I I really liked Ryan's comment that said I

would play as this character in a video game ah yes so this is a ice cold refreshing brewski that we've got here it's definitely a brewski and this is a brewski that I've got here. That's definitely a brewski. And this is a brewski that I enjoy. I like this beer. I'll just tell you that off the bat. I would say this is in the Crispy Boy family tree. That's what it sure reminds you of, isn't it? But I'm assuming if they're sending it to us from Alabama, it has to be some Miller Lite.

Just send us a six-pack of Miller Lite in the mail. Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah, so, you know, it's an Alabama beer. And we're never going to guess. Yeah, let's find out what we got here. Cahaba Brewing? Cahaba. I wonder if he sent these one time.

Yeah, didn't he actually? Or was it this exact one or was it this company? Maybe it was different. Maybe it was the same one. I mean, Big John will remember, but American Blonde Ale. Yeah, we might have gotten these ones before. From Birmingham, actually, so right in their hometown. Not just home state of Alabama, but home city.

And these are good. These are good beers. Tasty stuff. Tanner, this podcast probably won't get as crazy as the pre-Thanksgiving one where we had many, many beers. No, I'm just going to stick to them. We've got to work in the morning, Tanner. That's right. We've got stuff to do. do yes can't just be degenerates over here now should we do

the sack that goes along with this can oh wait what did you give this out of i think possible five jd power and associates awards so now we're looking at the jd we're looking at the jd power rest in power rest in power the. The JD Power beer scale now. Right. It's a little different than the sparkling water scale. You have to recalibrate. Yeah. I think I would give this probably a three and a half-ish.

Yeah. I mean, this is a three and a half to me. Yeah. Which is kind of our gold standard. It is sort of the gold standard now we'll journey into the sack which is a box as it often is oh and you something oh first up and myself something so i have full moon barbecue our award-winning barbecue sauce so i wonder if this is made in birmingham i'm going to assume maybe this says made in alabama okay it does here uh

yeah this is birmingham all distributed from a company birmingham but this is dreamland barbecue sauce and here's another thing here you got another thing coming jim and nick's another thing here. You got another thing coming. Jim and Nick's Community Barbecue Cheese Biscuit. Damn, that sounds good. I like the packaging, too. Yeah. It's got that old-school cool to it. And I've got some pure Alabama honey

produced by Jimmy Carmack in Odenville, Alabama. And his phone number, if you need to get a hold of Jimmy, is 205-640-5416. It's right there. Yeah. There we go. Cool. Let's see this. Here.

Take a look there. Honey bear. Yep. That's how I picture honey. Very good. Wow. This is all from Jonathan Oldham. Yeah. Little honey bear. Yep. That's how I picture honey. Very good. Wow. This is all from Jonathan Oldham. Yeah.

The man himself. Very cool. He also sent us a card. Oh, a card. But sometimes the cards are, you know, for this private memories that we all have together. Oh, it's an actual card. Like, it's a card card. This was a Christmas card from was a christmas card from him

from the old oh is that how long this has been uh yeah he sent it slightly after christmas but i did like the the cover of the card i guess that was yeah uh that's good well you might have to follow up on that there's a lot of writing here so i'm going to i'm going to read that after we're done so that people don't just uh have to and listen. Let's just read that in silence. You know, Tanner, we also have a regional barbecue sauce here that we do. We do. We haven't talked. Have we ever discussed it on the show?

We have. We probably haven't. Yeah. It's Big John's Old West Barbecue Sauce. And damn, is it good. It is. It's a local favorite for favorite for sure it is a local favorite yeah at western northeast south dakota it is produced in western northeast south dakota

but sold nationwide and it's a lot of barbecue sauces are very very very similar this one i feel like is unique unique in the category yeah and it's so how do you describe the most? Well, I actually don't use barbecue sauce in general all that much. I don't dislike barbecue sauce. I just it's not like my go to condiment. Yeah, I like barbecue sauce a lot. And I'm speaking of someone that doesn't under know the ins and outs of it very well. someone that doesn't under know the ins and outs of it very well but a lot of barbecue sauce is more either vinegar based or um i don't even know what the other like this one here the second

or the ingredients vinegar you know outside of water it's the first one what's what's that bottle say over there um right vinegar okay so yeah a lot of yeah a lot of it's like vinegar i don't this other one i don't even know what the base is i don't think it's vinegar john's old west i don't think it's vinegar but it's like a i don't know it's just really really good i don't know what the flavors are it's just damn good yeah and we have you you've toured the facility i've seen the facility yeah i have also toured the facility. We might have to do a How It's Made one of these days. We do have a special connection with Big John's Old West Barbecue Sauce.

But that's not affecting our review of it. Right, right, right. My mother is one of the owners of the company. Yeah. But it doesn't really affect our review. It really is. It's almost like a, it has like a cult-like following that barbecue sauce does locally.

So we might have to send some back to Alabama so they can experience Western Northeast, South Dakota barbecue sauce. A taste of Western Northeast. And also like a lot of the winged places around here, that is their barbecue flavor. Like that's the nice thing. Oh yeah, yes, yes.

Usually if you're getting barbecue wings in Aberdeen, there a good chance that yeah a lot of the restaurants yeah a lot of the restaurants have like in their menu and they'll even say like this is old west barbecue sauce yeah tell you know what's good that's how you know it's good stuff yeah okay Tanner up on the list here we're gonna knock this one out we've been it's been sitting here for way way too long we don't want to wait one more week we don't want to wait more because i'm almost already forgetting what this video talked about like this is old news now but probably almost a month ago now johnny candido put out a video talking about um a potential rule change for bench yeah and it's not like a rule that was being discussed it was just whoa his thoughts just something that he was proposing an idea and his idea was that the problem with bench with benching uh isn't

necessarily the arch you know a lot of people make a big deal about the arch right but his thing was the grip width especially in the lighter weights and the fact that it doesn't matter what your size is whether you're what's the smallest men's class like 127 ish pounds yeah or super super heavyweight you have the same bench with and that puts people at massive disadvantages or massive advantages is probably a better way to phrase that and so his proposed change was people like in the lowest weight classes would be they'd have to be inside the rings for their bench with you know people in like the what's it like 73 to 83 or whatever that kilo split is yeah like those guys would be able to put like ring fingers on the rings and then the biggest guys can just go with what's there right now.

And he was showing, and I thought this was pretty impressive. I didn't even know that people did this technique. Oh, the wrist. Yeah, I didn't realize how much, why can't I think of his name now? Hamstring Poppy. Yeah. Sean Noriega. There we go.

Yeah, he had him in his video and he was showing, because a lot of times when you watch bench tutorial videos, it's all right, you get everything stacked on top of it. Your wrist is, your forearm's straight up, your wrist is straight, and it's a stack. And everything's there, and you're gripping as tight as you can, and it's like everything's sitting on this column. Well, then it was showing, these guys are, and I honestly did not know this. Maybe I don't pay enough attention. But they're like putting the bar way back in their hands so they can basically bend their wrists back farther and it cuts out

the range it cuts the range of motion even more on top of taking a crazy wide grip and then having a pretty good arch on top of that like all those things together can cut five six inches out maybe even more depending on how you set it up and uh then sean noriega for comparison showed like even if he had to um so he's he showed bringing his wrists in and then did he stack or did he still take that maybe he got rid of that too i can't remember but he it did show that even when he did that it took a couple inches out of or i should say it added a couple inches back to his range of motion, which it's like, wow, that does.

With doing the exact same arch. Yeah, doing everything else the same, just bringing that in, or bringing the width in. It was surprising the video actually did, I felt like in the powerlifting circle, get quite a bit of notoriety. People were at least talking about it. I felt like it was the most honest debate people had had about that in a long time other than arching is bad or it's in the rules you know like there were some actual constructive critical conversations going on right um i'm not

sure if anything has come to it now since then but uh it was people were talking about and it was an interesting um way to to phrase the whole thing outside of just some crazy stuff of oh you need lasers to keep track of the level of their elbows and things that are just like there's no way to do yeah i would almost think that in looking at what he said it just seems like you would probably have to get even a little more simple where it's like under these weight classes you're inside the rings over these ones you can go wherever like that's probably where in my mind it just seems like it would have to be but maybe it's easier to enforce than what you think i'm in a weird place because i don't disagree with any of the points that he made and i do agree that the crazy arches are just

aesthetically or the crazy i shouldn't even say arches because i like that because what his point being it's not just the arch but the crazy minimal range of motion bench presses are not all that aesthetically appealing and that's watch and so and i get i agree with that i did like what he said here and i could have this a little wrong because it has been almost a month but he said something along the lines of people like well you're uh people are just playing to the sport. Like, this is the rules of the sport. And then, well, some people would have the argument that, well, it's boring to watch. We should make this more entertaining.

Well, you don't just change sports to make them more entertaining. When you have people that are more athletically gifted, that's like penalizing basketball players for being tall. But then he said, but in in basketball goaltending is illegal right and it's like that if goaltending wasn't illegal the sport would be crazy boring to watch because just everything would be swat swat oh yeah it would be and you just put everyone down at the bottom of the basket and it's like well we're penalizing the tall guys now but you have to kind of change the rules as the sport changes and so i did like that argument i thought that was a pretty good example. My thing, overall, I think that that won't work and shouldn't be attempted, what he's suggesting, because...

I don't think it will happen. No, and I don't think it should, because biggest thing to me is the enforcement of these different grip widths in different waist classes. It turns into just a total... It's like, no, people can't even judge squat depth. If the world, if every federation got together and said we're all on board i'd say okay yeah okay but that will never happen so then it turns into another thing where we're like subdividing a

federation's rules like even more i think it's unpractical i also think we're talking about a really small group of people here anyway we're honestly probably talking about what a tenth of a percent like when we've done many power lifting meets before how many people do you see that are out there like i don't have a tiny range i don't pay super close attention but i mean just i can tell you the meets we do the number of people that even bench 400 is very right yeah right right also already the number of people that this affects is it wouldn't I mean, it would affect people's grip widths at these meets, but it's not going to drastically change any performances. And I also think,

I kind of also have a problem with the different grip widths for the different weight classes. Like I think it's hard to enforce like what I already said, but I also think that that's a weird thing to try to enforce when everything else there are no in the entire rest of the sport with everything else going on this is the one you're right yeah that's kind of what i'm like no no that's not like where i would start to try to fix things if that's like i'm like no that to me that muddies it more than it like cleans things up like it makes it more

i never thought about that point messed up uh that's actually probably my biggest thing with it is just how it's like oh i have the bench record it's a usa pl one and it's the one where you have to keep your right your yeah it's the record where your wrists are in this far on the bar it's like okay come on yeah and and like i can also i know it's different but i'm also like so the there's so few people and they are either they have either trained themselves to be able to do that or combination of genetically gifted to be able to do that predisposed to be able to and good for them like wouldn't everyone be doing that if it was so easy as to like oh yeah like oh yeah i'm just going to use a good arch and a wide grip with and like i'm gonna bend my wrist back and cut down my range of

motion like okay good idea go ahead and do that yeah how long is that going to take you can you do it i'll go do this every training session for a year and still make marginal improvements at very best so then i get back to like the suit like people that are really well built for sumo deadlifting like okay they are well built for it and that's the advantage they have that also comes along with other disadvantages probably same for these people that can uh uh pull off this tiny range of motion bench press that particular build um skeleton type all that stuff it's probably somewhat detrimental in other parts of the other lifts i would guess typically it is and for the person that it's not it's like okay yeah you're the right people yeah it's like okay congratulations you're ed

cone or something exactly yeah yeah and it's like, okay, congratulations, you're Ed Cohn. Exactly, yeah, yeah. And it's like, I just don't understand the part of, like, penalizing people for being good at, like, for. Especially when it's such a small subset. Right, right. Like, for the guy that locks out the deadlift below his knees, it's like, okay, do we have to make rules for that guy that he, those people can't deadlift sumo and they have to grip wider than they have

they have to be touching the rings you know it's like yeah that's kind of where i get to yeah i yes so i guess looking back on it his argument i think was was well put together than almost any other bench argument it really was but the more we talk about it right now this is the first time we've actually talked about it the more it does make me realize that powerlifting doesn't need more rules that's where i that's where i'm at we need less federations yeah yeah we i'm not gonna say we need less rules but i don't think we need more rules no no and i don't we just need the rules that are in place to be enforced really that's the starting Yeah, I don't think that is the direction we go to improve the macro issues. But also, that all being said, I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of what he said.

I think it was one of the best potato arguments I've seen on the bench position. I just think of the tree of low-hanging fruit. This one's way a little bit more up on the top of the tree than some of the other things that you could talk about. What we really need is to be able to have Johnny on the show to talk to him about it. We do. We have reached out to Johnny.

He has not gotten back to us, is the to him about it. We do. We have reached out to Johnny. He has not gotten back to us as the honest truth about that. So yeah. Anyone out there listening that can force Johnny to be on our show. We're looking at you right now. We've been watching his videos for a long, long time. Like a long time. We would really,

really, he is at the top, one of the very top of our list. He was one of the first powerlifting channels that I regularly followed. Oh, I think that's true for a lot of people. If you've been doing this for very long. And then there was the period where he just kind of disappeared for like two or three years.

And then he had like the comeback video. Yeah. We'd love to get him on. Yeah, that'll be a fun one. I'm sure it'll happen someday. We'll get it to happen. So it'll be fun when it does. Someday.

I mean, but we'll be at this for like six more years, at least Tanner. There's a lot of episodes. How long can he really dodge us how long can he hold out yeah i don't want to find out no i just want him to be on okay tanner next up on the list we got updates on the road to 300 this is an important one and updates do we have because We have because last week. We did it, fam. We did it. Spoiler alert.

We did it. It has happened. Last week we had, that was last week, right? Yeah. Yeah, we had big Nate on last week. Seems like just ages ago already. But we had Nate on to talk about the massanomicsreviews.com website that would aggregate reviews for people and give the live count on the number of existing reviews.

I believe when they built that the first time we saw it, it was around 290 ish. Yeah. Correct. I think 290. And now all of a sudden, right before we look at this, it's 308 and it is now changed to the road to road to 400. So Nate updated it road to 400. So that one just blew us by.

We still do have the road to 300 plans in the works, but like we said last week, you know, we're not smacked at in the middle of like the onset of COVID. So we have started to move the chess pieces forward on the board. At that time, the marketing schedule was wide open. People were like, give us money. We just need to market something. Now we actually have to kind of wait our turn. So we're waiting our turn, but that is coming. But the big things are coming. Yeah. Big things are coming. And we have have to kind of wait our turn so we're waiting our turn but that is coming but the big things are coming yeah big things are coming and we have started to actually uh we've got we've got a pretty much more solid plan of what's going to happen now as far as that goes and it's good yeah and it's big yeah yep so we got something there and i just i was thinking about this before the show, Tanner. It took us probably 180 episodes-ish to get to 100 reviews.

Yeah. And then it took probably, or no, no, no, probably not 180. Sorry. It probably took more than 100 episodes to get to 100 reviews. I think so. It probably took to about 100 and and i don't know well actually you know what we were recording remotely here when we yeah so that was that i mean that was a half a year ago that was six seven months ago when we hit 200 or hit three 200 views seven months ago

so well it took us four years yeah it took us four years to get to 200. Right. It took us over four years to get to 200 reviews. And now it's taken like seven to go to 300. Yeah, seven, six months to go to 300. Things are accelerating. Yeah, so we can feel the review love. Yeah. It is crazy how fast that has picked up though. Yeah, that has been. And that

has to be valuable in some way, right? I mean, it gives us something to talk about for five minutes on the podcast. That's valuable, right? Well, that's almost invaluable. I don't know if I understand those terms. Yeah. I know exactly what you're saying.

I don't know the best way to articulate that, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. It's kind of in the long lines of when things go priceless. Right. Once it's valuable enough, it's now priceless. Like lift shorts. Exactly, you know. Right. Once it's valuable enough, it's now priceless. Like lift shorts. Exactly like lift shorts. Yes.

Wow. We're just really knocking all these off the list here, Tanner. Is that it? You have something here that says time zones. Oh, yeah. Just a quick note on time zones. And this is just. There's a bunch of them.

Yeah. The funny thing about time zones is. bunch of them yeah the funny thing about time zones is am i the only person that time zones should not be confusing and yet i can get stuck like like i can spend way more time than i should having to think about like and the reason that this comes up for me is scheduling podcast guests. So we have podcast guests all over North America as our guests today, Canadian, but all with Eastern time zone, central time zone, mountain time zone,

Pacific time zone, spanning those time zones. And so every week I have to do this thing where we coordinate, okay, this is what time we usually record. Does this work for you? What time zone are you in? This is what time it is for you i usually like to spell that like make it very clear because yeah it's like because it is people can mix that up very easily right yeah you can't be like yeah we're doing it at six and they're like okay i live in uh la what does six meet like six o'clock when and where and i don't know anyone that lives in

the central time zone so you gotta make this very clear right and it is just funny how it's like a concept that is so simple and basic but yet it's one of those things in my life that i don't know it wasn't like drilled into me at a a young age it's almost like uh reading a clock you know it's almost you don't think about it you just it's like you just second nature and it means what it yeah right but like the time zones to me even though I understand the logic, like, ah, yes, the sun rises in the east, sets in the west. So that means, you know, it becomes. The east happens first.

Yes, it happens first. And so eastern time zone is happening first. But I almost have to like think that in my head every time instead of it just being like. I mean, I don't think I struggle with them, but I still feel like i always do like a two second like yeah okay yeah that's where that's where we're right and the one that always gets me is because isn't it phoenix like they don't have daylight savings right okay but

i believe and i don't even i can for people that live in phoenix i can never keep that one straight because i never know if they're mountain or pacific time i don't i still don't know but then they don't observe daylight savings time in a lot of part of that. So then that throws the whole thing out there too. Yeah, that's additionally confusing. Yeah, that one always confuses me. And I'm not saying it's confusing to the point

like I don't understand it. I understand it and I always figure it out. And you can grab your phone and find out in literally five seconds. But it's just always funny to me where it's one of these things where I have to, like you said, I have to take those couple seconds every time and be like, is that right?

Does that seem, okay, yeah, that's right. Where it seems like it's so easy, it should be just like, just a second nature thing. It also blows my mind that the central time zone, we are on like the far western edge of the central time zone. Very far western, yeah. And it goes all the way over like to Ohio. That seems like too far away, doesn't it?

Well, that's the same concept of when we drive to ohio for the arnold and we're we consider ourselves midwesterners yeah ohio people also kind of i think consider themselves it is a long ways from here yeah but we are on the western edge of what you call the midwest and they are really on the east edge of it too but it is a spans a large gap yeah that really is the especially when you make the drive you're like yeah that's a that's a large gap yeah and you know to do that drive and not see anything different the entire time it's like from the time you get in your car to the time you get there the scenery almost did not change at all you got a few more hills along the way but that is it so that was my note on time zones well thank you for sharing that with us tanner i think we're

all better off but i thought it felt uh fits in nicely with like a weather segment it kind of does okay very important very important not only is today's show brought to you by lifting large but lifting large is proud to announce their 2021 sponsored athlete winners all right and for uh those of you that listen to the show and also listen to the ads, you know that you've been waiting. You've been wanting to know who is Lifting Large going to have as their winners. Well, I have them right here.

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they're going to have to buy it. There was over 750 entries from strength athletes all around the world. So you can imagine it was probably pretty hard to pick over 750. That's cool.

So it was probably pretty hard to pick just six, which is what they did. I mean, we don't get 750 video entries and it takes us a long time to narrow down to 10. It's hard to weed out like half of them yeah yeah so i that wouldn't be a fun spot to be in so we're gonna run through the list here

uh molly hendrix from oregon amber hansen from virginia tara weber from british columbia our neighbors to the north in canada so that's the women's side the men's side we have nathaniel hancock from utah tommy burns from california fellow tommy fellow tommy you know him i do not maybe maybe i do i don't know i should maybe i should check into that and last but definitely not least brandon amos uh-huh friend of the podcast friend of the podcast from california yeah is now a lifting large 2021 sponsored athlete i'm pumped for that one and i think brandon can be credited with the original comment of saying that something is the is he the one that's yeah the groundlocked uh how do you say that the groundlocked. Like this comment is the groundlocked deadlift slipper of comments.

Yeah, yeah. I think Brandon can be credited with having a chance. That's almost kind of gone full circle then. That's the case. And that, so his comment was, I think, I guess all that groundlocked deadlift slipper talk really paid off. It really did. Yeah.

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sponsors. Thank you, sponsors. Should we get Big Jessica on the the phone let's do this oh it's gonna be one of those canadian long distance calls oh boy never thought about that until just now oh we're gonna find out what the bill on this one is next week well it's a risk we're just gonna have to take i hope that the calls to saskatoon are for some reason like times a normal Canadian call. Are we ringing yet,

Tanner? I don't think it is yet. Okay. It takes a little while for the, for the wire to cross the past year to Canada. This doesn't say connected there. Usually once it's, yeah, still calling.

You have reached. Oh, just hang that up before anything bad oh like we said you're calling Canada it's a crapshoot so we'll try this again I don't know why not I mean we got nothing else to do people would have to listen to us talk for another half hour

if we don't get this call we could just have a text we could do a text message the whole way and just transcribe it. Oh, we got a ring. Hey, how's it going? Jessica, you are on the Mastodonics podcast with Tanner and Tommy. What's up, Jessica? Not too much.

I didn't work today, so I'm was hanging out with my new puppy how about you guys oh we're doing great new puppy though I mean that seems like that should be something we talk about right away oh yeah for sure she's super cute she's uh her name is blue and she's 10 weeks old she's a samoyed puppy so I don't know if that's a very well-known breed of dog, but they're basically husky sized and really fluffy. Oh, okay. Is she blue? She's not blue. I got requested by a lot of my coworkers for that too,

because her belly's kind of pink and they're all like, she's pink, not blue. Yeah. I would pull out the, what's the will ferrell movie uh you're my boy you're my boy blue i would just say that to the dog yeah that joke would never get tired how is that i know it's i think that's old school right yeah old school yes uh so we didn't yeah we were my boy blue uh we did promise we're not going to talk a lot of uh lifting stuff because we just usually don't talk the sets and reps all that much on our show. But it is probably valuable for anyone that's maybe not a giant Jessica Bittner fan yet.

I mean, of course, they are going to be by the end of this episode. But if you could just give us, you know, the quick background, maybe like what some of your biggest lifts have been or uh your your history in the ipf oh for sure yeah um so yeah i'm an ipf powerlifter um i've been to world three times now uh only one year is an open but my best deadlift in competition is 550 pounds. My best squat is, um, 463 pounds and my bench is lagging behind a little bit, but it's about,

what is it? 230 pounds. And I'm looking, yeah, I really want, I, um, those numbers were done at,

thank you at the Canadian Nationals in March, which was the last competition that happened right before the pandemic in Canada. Anyways, the last major one. Yeah. And so you are, as you said, obviously Canadian and we, we're from Western Northeast South Dakota. It's one of the things we pride ourselves on. And we were looking a little bit more closely at the region of Canada that you're from. And we love that you are from Saskatoon.

Because everyone's always like South Dakota, like that's way up there and like in the middle of nowhere. And I mean, we don't say this often, but when you look at that Canadian map, like it's like Saskatoon is, is up there. It looks like the last, it looks like you're looking at the game of Thrones map and it's just like North of the wall. It seems like there's a lot of stuff there, but there's nothing there at the same time. Yeah. I love that you guys noticed that because i live in probably the least known province of canada um i live in saskatoon saskatchewan which is pretty much just middle of nowhere like it's

a city of about 300 000 actually i work in a city of about 15 000 that's more up our alley. Yeah. You guys are, what is it? Aberdeen? Yes, Aberdeen. There's an Aberdeen in Saskatchewan. It has about 600 people there. Okay. We're a big one compared to that.

We're 25,000. Is it small town over there like it is here because we have a couple major cities and then it's all really tiny towns with um they have some good names to them too actually oh yeah that's absolutely what it's like yeah that's 100 what is what it is you have to go like to uh a couple hundred miles in any direction to get to any town bigger than us. Actually, any town of size. Right, yeah, more than like a couple thousand. Really?

Yeah, we're out here. But what is Saskatoon like? Like what Tommy was saying, it feels like you go a little bit farther north and it feels like you're in the Canadian wilderness. Is that what it's like? Do you go much farther north than where you live? Actually, I grew up about an hour and a half north of here, and it is the forest.

It's right on the edge of the boreal forest. So yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing past there. And actually, south of Saskatoon, there's a city called Reginaina which is our capital city of wisconsin and if you go south of there it's just absolute flat land so that's the part i don't like i like the north actually there's lots of trees and stuff it's actually quite nice but pretty isolated if you if you go too far yeah yeah that's we're the flatlands. So we don't,

we got that part done. Oh, you guys heard of Estevan? Of what? It's a little border town, but it's right by North, North Dakota. Oh yeah.

I know what the land is like. I am familiar. Okay. Yeah. So Saskatchewan borders, North Western North Dakota. I, this is. Okay. Yeah. So Saskatchewan borders northwestern North Dakota. You correct me if my Canadian geography is wrong here, but I believe Saskatchewan borders western North Dakota

and Manitoba borders eastern North Dakota. Yeah, because Winnipeg is the close one for us. Right. We're much farther to the east, so're closer to winnipeg's almost straight north of us like i think winnipeg's like a four or five hour drive i think yeah oh nice okay yeah it's a 10 hour drive for me so i'm so impressed that your geography you guys did your research well we're good at something i guess well we figured we make such a big deal about western northeast south dakota we have like when we when we make such a big deal about Western Northeast South Dakota.

We have like when we when we see someone else that shares like some similarities, because I actually if I was really to plot it out by our system. Do you live in. Southwestern Central Saskatchewan. Would you say? Yeah, I actually do. Southwestern Central Saskatchewan who would you say yeah I actually do yeah southwestern central Saskatchewan yeah directions are important yeah it's a big thing for our listeners okay so yeah so now clarify that so yeah so now that we have the geography thing down we have to get to more we have to get to even more important stuff and one is that um the mass economics podcast tanner and i were talking typically our guest we we haven't always had guests but guests have been a thing we've been doing more as of late and um um we haven't had

a ton of diversity so uh the last time we had a woman on the podcast her name was jessica so in order to switch things up we made sure to get another woman named jessica on the podcast so you're you're jessica number two now at this point, which makes you the third woman to ever be on the podcast now. Oh, that's actually awesome. I love that podcast you did with Jessica Fitton, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

That was awesome. She's behind the You Look Like a Man page. Oh, God, I can only imagine what she deals with on a day-to-day basis, but I like what she's doing. Yeah, yeah, she's definitely fighting a battle there. Yeah, it's an uphill battle. So we have to go back now, and Tanner and I, we're curious if you are aware of this.

We went back into the massonomics archives on this and we we rolled back the pages of history to what it was at Tanner 2016 I can't remember the here here I have I have the page pulled up here so we're going all the way back in the time machine here to uh it is come on get me there. August of 2016, Massanomics, we made a blog post called The Top 10 Female Powerlifters You Should Be Following. Are you aware of this at all, Jessica? No. Okay, we'll explain it to you.

Okay, so we made this blog post in 2016. Massanomics was a little different then. We still didn't know what we were doing. We didn't really have apparel. We still don't know what then. It was, we were still didn't know what we were doing. We didn't really have apparel. We still don't know what we're doing. Yeah, yeah. I'm still there. We still don't know what we're doing.

But anyways, we made a list of the top 10 female powerlifters you should be following. I believe Tanner, you wrote the article, I think, right? Yeah. And the idea was, it was the top 10 female powerlifters that you should be following that you aren't now because it was anyone that had under 10 000 uh followers on instagram so that was our criteria and i believe you reached out to a few prominent females in the sport didn't you some of the other notable ones were on the list jen thompson she only had like 6 000 followers at the time uh uh who else did we say was on uh leanne hewitt yeah uh bonica yeah bonica was on there

um there's heather connor heather connor and but number 10 on the list which is actually the first one when you look at the list is jessica bittner and at the time guess how many followers you had on instagram at the time actually i have no idea. So yeah, number 10 on the list, Jessica Bittner, 1600 followers. Oh my God, that's crazy. I always forget because it feels like I've been on Instagram for a long time, but it really hasn't been that long. That's only five years. That's not even five years. Yeah. And it's funny. Here's the, here's the writeup we had 21 years old lean and just rep in four plates. Like it's no big deal.

She was an IPF raw world champ in 2016. She is also a collegiate athlete with this strength level. There's probably not much she couldn't excel at athletically. Ah, high praise. That's still probably stands to be true. Wow. Yeah.

So that was, that was our first, uh, that was the first time I'd ever heard of you. I know for sure. Yeah. That was the first time a lot of people would have, because you'll get 1600 followers. So statistically, yeah, that is pretty crazy. So this has kind of gone a full circle here. Yeah. And I mean, not to just completely pat ourselves on the back, but we assume that we're responsible for most of that. We were banking on this conversation happening someday.

So, yeah, that was definitely all Masonomics for sure. You know what? Shortly after that, Instagram did start to take off. So it could have been you guys. You never know. You can give yourselves a pat on the back. We actually should tell you, though. So Masonomics, we do have, you know, the, the website,

like every single podcast we make goes on the website, which is now, this is two 53. So we have 253 podcast posts. When we used to do more blogging, we probably have, do we have a hundred blog posts? Maybe more. And that article is still our number one blog post every month. I mean, it still gets thousands of page views every month that article

does really yeah which is absolutely like it's crazy if you type in female power lifters that's the number one article that comes up it's very weird yeah yeah so we've just had that we've like had that phrase and google's just like massonomics couldn't have that phrase i guess it's also really it is just really funny to me to think that at that point in time, like you and, uh, Jen Thompson and Heather Connor all on the list had like, there was a point in time when you had like 2000 followers.

Yeah. Yeah. I never thought I would have a, like an Instagram following until I guess when I started powerlifting at about that time. But you guys made some amazing picks on that list because Vanika, Jen, Heather, yeah, they all have a crazy amount of followers. Yeah, they definitely, yeah, those were the highlights of the list as far as like people that are still really doing it big time today and do have a following.

it big time today and do have a following. Yeah, for sure. So you said you didn't necessarily, like, I imagine at the time you weren't thinking, what can I do to my Instagram to grow my following? You know, you were just, you were posting your lifting and, you know, whatever else is going on in your life that you post about, like, do you think about that now as, you know, assuming it is kind of, you yourself, you are a business now. When you have that many followers on Instagram, that's the way it is. Like, it is valuable. It's valuable to a lot of companies. Do you think about that a lot, or do you still look at it as like, oh, this is just my personal

Instagram, and I put on here whatever I kind of feel like it today? That's a bit of both. It's definitely more, I wouldn't say, I don't really think of it so much as a business, but I do think of it differently in the beginning. Like in the beginning, I was just posting absolutely whatever for my personal life. I do wish I had recorded myself

lifting more in the beginning because I would just take pictures for some reason. I would just like had recorded myself lifting more in the beginning because I would just take pictures for some reason. I would just set a timer, do a squat of 315. You wouldn't even be able to see the weights and I'd post it and say, just squat at 315. And then stuff like that. I wish I had more progress. But it wasn't that long ago though, where first of all, Instagram didn't have videos for a long time. And then for a while, wasn't it like,

wasn't it like eight seconds? They were kind of trying to do the vine thing. Cause there was a long time. It was 15 seconds. Was it 15? Yeah. Cause there was a long time where I remember there was like this period when they had the videos and everyone was cause they wanted to get their whole

full sets in and they were like speeding up their videos. So you can see the full set, but it was not, you know, at a realistic time. so instagram has changed a lot too though it has you know what i still think of every single post is uh oh i got 11 likes i can like my own post do you guys remember that maybe i just dated myself now but i I just remember that you couldn't see all the names of people once it hit 10 or something like that. So even now I still think about that. A little hack to boost your stats out there.

That's good. I don't like my own post. Just hypothetically speaking, you could. We're going to have to look into that now and see if that's true don't check um one another thing about lifting is we did run a contest a while back where we had a lot of people do jefferson deadlifts it was just kind of a fun thing that we did and you did a jefferson deadlift i can't remember the weight of it that you did but do you remember that and how much you did Jefferson deadlift at the time?

I think it was 350 pounds. I was trying to remember cause I was actually, uh, trying to work up to a Jefferson deadlift yesterday after you guys mentioned it. Um, but it was early in the morning and I was going to hurt myself. So that, you know, you, you're, uh, you know, But it was early in the morning and I was going to hurt myself. So I did it. So that, you know, your most proficient lift is the deadlift. I assume you would probably agree with that.

You excel at the deadlift. How does the Jefferson deadlift feel to you? Because we've, you know, some people like almost like it in comparison to the conventional deadlift. Like they think, oh, I could maybe even deadlift more as a, in Jefferson style. How does it feel to you? Actually, it feels great except, um, I'm not so used to it. So all of a sudden I get, uh, it does, it was almost hurting my, I think my glute need, cause I was putting too much weight in a wrong direction. But when I do get it right, it actually feels amazing. It feels actually better than a conventional deadlift sometimes. Okay.

So what, hypothetically, if you trained it for, let's just say a month, how much do you think you could Jefferson deadlift? Hmm. I think I could do over 400 pounds for sure. Could you do five plates or 500 pounds? That would be so cool. I think it's crazy to think that I might need more than a month,

but I think I could do it. I bet you could. I think you probably could. Do I have to do it now? We would love it. There's no doubt about that. We don't want you to get hurt, though. The last time we really were pushing this Jefferson deadlift thing,

people were starting to get hurt because they were, they were going for like 900 pound Jefferson deadlift. Steve Johnson, forsaken warrior went for like a 900 pound Jefferson deadlift and did hurt himself doing it to be fair. So we don't, we don't want that to happen to anyone, but you know,

I'm sure. Yeah. You could probably, I think once you get past the uncomfortableness of it, then you can really start to see some progress there. Yeah, I definitely, you know, I definitely did it for the last last time it was completely unpeaked. I remember,

I think I wore my SPD belt around my neck and then everything. Yeah. You look like juggernaut. And I do. yeah you look like juggernaut and i was just thinking i do i don't want to look like juggernauts maybe i won't do this again so we'll stay tuned for the five plate jefferson deadlift actually i shouldn't say now i am morally obligated yeah i guess i should i should i probably shouldn't say five plate i suppose you traditionally lift with kilo plates. Five-plate still, I still think of it in pound plates.

It's way better. Okay. But does your gym that you go to, is it pound plates or kilo plates? I use kilo plates, but I will use pound plates just to make it look cooler. Because let's be real, having five actual plates on there looks so much better than having those skinny, heavy kilo plates. So is that, I guess. What is common in Canada though? I've never even thought, yeah.

If it's not a place that has calibrated kilogram competition plates, what do they have at the gyms? In Canada? Oh, if it's not a powerlifting gym, it's for sure pound plates all the way. Oh, it is. You rarely see kilo plates. Okay. I didn't know if like, because in Europe, is it, do you know in Europe? I assume they have all kilo plates there. Then, you know, even if they're not calibrated. You know, they have, they have 25 kilogram plates or 20 kilogram, you know, non-calibrated plates.

I think, I actually don't even know that. I've never actually even thought about that before wow it's kind of like blowing my mind a little bit it is kilo plates for the most part although i do go to powerlifting gyms when i'm when i have been there so i'm kind of biased but i'm thinking back i did go to a couple commercial gyms in europe and they were um they were kilo plates makes sense they're not going to Americanize that part of their life why do we have to convert this when we come to the gym

why is the gym the only place that's like this why do Americans use why pounds though they're just none of the I mean I kind of get a kick out of it because none of the units make sense like uh a mile or a mile is like 5200 feet some odd 5268 yeah you know nice even numbers i know but i guess in canada we still use pounds for weight and stuff like that, but we don't use anything. Oh, and I guess we use feet and inches for height more often than centimeters.

Oh, you do? Okay, wow. So you guys do really mix it up then? A little bit, but as far as distance and stuff, unless you're super old, like maybe my, I don't know, unless you're maybe my grandparents age or older i feel like you don't use miles they still use miles back in the day oh wow i did not know any of that i just assumed like once you hit the border it was like a cut off and

another interesting uh canadian thing this goes back to our last episode uh we have a segment on every episode it's called what's in the. And usually we drink like a sparkling water and we rate it on a scale. And this recently people have been sending us a lot of their sparkling waters. And the last one, last couple we got, Tommy's holding one right now from last episode, we got sent it's President's Choice sparkling water. First of all, are you familiar at all with President's Choice? This was sent from Canada. Yeah, from Canada. Yeah. Have you ever heard of that?

Of course. Okay, so it's big there. Okay. So they sent us a couple flavors. The first one was cherry vanilla. We rated it very highly. It was very good. Yeah, and then the second one was cream soda.

And we made a comment on the podcast it was funny to us the cream soda one came uh you know you should it's generally a white can and then like the ribboning on the can was pink in this cream soda flavored one and we thought it was very odd because all of the cream soda beverages we would buy here are typically like uh would be cream colored tan or cream like have that coloring to it and someone corrected me on instagram this week after listening to it and said yeah in canada cream soda is uh pink pink like would be the most common color do you do you know that to be true oh for sure what do you mean it's cream colored like it's like 10 or something yeah yeah yeah

that's 100%. Like root beer is usually like in brown and maroon type cans. Cream soda is kind of like an offshoot of root beer, and it's a lighter color brown. So yeah, it's like light brown and tan is what cream soda usually is here. Weird. It's pink here. Really?

So if someone, you pictured a color associated with cream soda, it's pink. Oh yeah, hands down. That's insane. That is actually very crazy to me right now. Wow, that is insane. Maybe, I hope that's not just a, oh go ahead. Oh, I was going to say, someone told me, how many Reese cups come in a standard pack for you guys? Two. What?

What is yours? Three here. Really? Okay. How many Twix come in a package there? I think two. Okay. I've never seen a Reese's with three.

The big one is four. I've never seen one of three before three. The big one is four. I've never seen one of three before. We've been kind of getting the shaft on that for years then. It's like we're living in just totally different continents all of a sudden here. Oh, my God. Do you guys have ketchup chips? I've seen them around. I don't care for those.

I've had them like once. I don't think those are good. Oh, weird. They're like big here. I don't, I don't love ketchup chips, but they're a big flavor for sure. One, one thing about lifting, I was wondering and thought I wanted to ask was you, you've been powerlifting for several years now. I don't know if it's five or six or how long you've actually been competing and you've had a lot of success and you've gone to, like you said, IPF worlds

several years. How do you look at it? And maybe you don't know the answer yet at this point in your life. Do you think that you, would you see yourself continuing to compete in powerlifting for five, 10, 15, you know, 15, 20 more years, or do you kind of, uh, look at it right now where you, you think that, that, uh, you'd want to move away from it at some point in time. And you kind of know that already, or don't you know the answer to that? Oh, I see myself computing. I definitely see, uh, myself taking maybe breaks for a couple of years down the line, but as long as I'm physically able, I definitely see myself taking maybe breaks for a couple years down the line but as long as I'm physically able I definitely see myself competing I want to be as old as possible deadlifting as much as possible

that's what I that's how I see myself I don't know if it'll be in the competition but I'll definitely be in the gym somewhere I think that's a cool goal I think there's a lot of people listening that can relate to that too especially when you put it in those those somewhere. I think that's a cool goal. I think there's a lot of people listening that can relate to that too, especially when you put it in those, those terms, like I want to be as old as possible and still deadlifting as much as possible or squatting or benching or whatever, you know, I would say not deadlifting. You wouldn't say dead, you know, and like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say squatting, you know, but, uh, just that general concept though, like, like being able to continue to do it to your highest level that you're capable of at that point in time for as long as you can. Oh yeah, absolutely. I think it's a strength is always a good goal to pursue and it takes

different forms as you, um, get older or lose interest in different sports, but it's always useful. It always is useful. It is. And it's's fun going to the gym it is fun going to the gym oh for sure i just yeah 100 i missed it i've been working out at home a lot lately because i have weights and just because i got a puppy but i went back to the gym today and last week and i just realized how much i missed it. It's so much fun. Just having other people around to hype you up and then watching the chaos that sometimes goes on. Like, Oh, one guy got pinned under a squat so bad. It's the little things.

It's the little things like seeing someone else suffer. Keeps me coming back. I know exactly what you mean. He's young, but get over it. He walked away and he did some squats after, so it's all good. Yeah, lived to get crushed another day.

Yeah. I feel like a bad person. Do you want to get into our overrated underrated topics or I think we can do that if you've heard the show before with the other Jessica or any of the other ones maybe you've heard us play overrated or underrated

in the past but anyways we have a special Jessica Bittner series of overrated underrated topics that we wanted to go through today with you, if you are prepared to play with us. Yep. That's all we need to hear.

That's the magic word around here. The one thing to keep in mind is you can't ride the line on the middle on any of these. You have to decide overrated or underrated on each one of them. And it is up to you how much you would like to elaborate on any of these topics. Okay. So first one, overrated or underrated? Drake. Oh, that's a tough one for me.

Because... I mean, he's practicallyada's biggest export at this point uh i like you know what you guys you guys are american so you have a different perspective so i'm gonna say underrated okay okay are we talking about wait are we talking about overrated or underrated in canada no it's however you want to frame it. Yeah, whatever your interpretation of that is. Okay, the States. It's however you want to say it. This is tough for me because I'm never... This is a real tough question.

Is Jessica a Drake fan? I wouldn't call myself a Drake fan, actually. I like his music, but I'm not... Okay, so when Drake comes out with new music, though, you are at least listening to it a little bit? You're aware of his new stuff when it comes out? Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, you know what?

Underrated, and I'm speaking for America. Okay, okay. Does Drake live in Saskatoon or not? He's Toronto. I knew it was one of the two. He probably vacations in Saskatoon a lot though, I'm sure. Oh, for sure. The two major cities of Canada.

He probably bounces between Toronto, LA, and Saskatoon. I would imagine that's probably where he's going. Oh, for sure. Okay. Overrated or underrated? Pole vault. Pole vaulting vaulting oh man okay that's definitely underrated it's kind of a it's a weird niche sport that not a lot of people get to try but it's so much fun and when i look back i can't even believe that i still manage to launch myself three and a half meters over a bar at one point I should 3.42 I'm

rounding up but um which is what in feet so it's about three feet in a meter so it's like what nine and a half yeah I'd be like yeah over 10 yeah over a basketball hoop I have no idea okay yeah Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So did you, were you a pole vaulter in college or? Yeah. In my first year of college and then, um, or in my first year of university. Yes.

And then I, uh, sprained my ankle doing, uh, snowboarding with my boot loose. And then I also gained some weight. So I became not as good at pole vault and I started lifting weights and shot putting and uh hammer throwing and weight throwing

instead which was a better pass for me because although I loved pole vaulting I was never that great at it it seems so dangerous like for someone that would never be like I it seems like so it seems scary. Like how, I don't know how you do the first one where you're like, all right, here I go on this for the first time. They get you when you're unsuspecting. Like I remember being in a track meet one day for something else when I was in high school, I was just sprinting or something. I don't know. And then all of a sudden the pole vault coach um my high school yeah the pole coaches picked a bunch of us and said here you go and gave us a pole and then

they're like uh just go run at this mat and put the ball in the box and jump on the mat and we're like okay not knowing what we're getting into and then you just slowly start running faster and faster and next thing you know you're coming to practice and going over bars and stuff it is scary sometimes one time i was holding oh my god i've had some accidents for sure one time i was at canada games and the uh our poles were i was used to meters and instead someone put um feet on there so i was holding way too high so i did my runway and i i i'm holding on to the pole and i'm at the very top like it's it's straight up and down um like that's how high i am in the air and i started to come back down onto the runway instead of going on the mat you just have to like pray and try and not land on the wrong side.

That's like falling off of a ladder. Yeah, it's exactly like that. I'd be very good at falling off of a ladder, I think. Tanner, what do you think would happen to your body if someone gave you a pole and said, run at this mat and try to launch yourself? I don't think I could physically make myself do it. I would your like what's my alternative here like are you gonna shoot me in the leg because i would consider getting shot in the leg rather than like whatever's gonna happen once i'm in the air yeah yeah but could you go do like if someone put up you you grabbed a pole vault right now out at the track like could you do it right now for just fresh,

very little training, getting back into it? Yeah, I think I'd be able to do it. I wouldn't be able to go nearly as high, but I think I could do some. I think I could do some, yeah. Do you think, so you said you... I thought we'd hurt myself. Yeah.

You said you did end up then throwing shot put and hammer in college. That is what you, what you finished out doing. Yeah, we it's indoor for us. So it's shot put and weight throw. So it's, it's heavier, but it's, it's like hammer just so it doesn't go as far indoors. So now I would assume you would say you are stronger now than you are then. Do you think you could throw farther or do you think the technique is so far gone that that's not going to happen? You know what my technique, I think I learned some bad habits. I think I'd be able to throw a lot farther now if I really got back into it

and was practicing like I was before. I started to get pretty good at hammer throw and then shot put was coming along too, but school just got so busy that I didn't do my last year of track and field. Okay. Have you ever tried? Have you ever tried Highland games? No, but I want to.

Have you guys? Yeah, we've done a few. Not that we're good, but we've literally done. Tanner is the B. How did the division go? I think at least a couple times I've been the B class champion for of the Northeast South Dakota Highland Games yeah so pretty prestigious honor uh we have had Matt Vinson on before and bragged to him about that but um yeah it just seems like you could my assumption would be you would be

very good if you have any type of throwing background you could step in and do pretty well right off the bat right nice well it's something i wanted to do but naturally in saskatchewan there's just not a lot of those highland games competitions going on so i haven't really been got a scope one i really wanted yeah i do this some in canada for sure but i haven't wanted to you know travel to compete in something that I've never tried before right yeah you know don't rule out the one in Aberdeen South Dakota though someday you know that's uh I think it's early September every year so it might be worth the trip you know what I would probably do that it's probably the closest it's not out of the question actually it's not very far it's probably doable

I mean you're relatively closer than a lot of the people we talk to that are from California or you know Florida yeah it wouldn't be that bad of a drive okay you know what count me as a maybe we'll, you know what? You're signed.

Count me as a maybe. We'll mark you down in pencil. Yes. Overrated or underrated? Lululemon. I am wearing head-to-toe Lululemon at the moment almost very relevant topic then

so you guys ask the hardest questions this really isn't fair that's the thing about overrated underrated I gotta say overrated because I feel like it's been so hyped up that everyone's just over it. You know,

even though I will continue buying their stuff for a long time, it's just one of those things. I think I know what you mean. I have some Lululemon pieces and I was very of the overrated variety until I got it. And I'm like, God, these are really nice. They are really nice.

They're expensive, but they're really nice. But I, I could, I feel your pain in that overrated, underrated. I do feel like they're in a fine line. Their pricing is pretty high, though. I'm assuming it's high in Canada as well. Yeah, yeah, it's high.

What does your stuff cost you? So I told Tanner, you know, we're Masonomics. We sell apparel. It's definitely not in the same market. Well, we're also known for very expensive shorts. We're known for very expensive shorts. I don't know, we're Masonomics. We sell apparel. It's definitely not in the same market. Well, we're also known for very expensive shorts. We're known for very expensive shorts. I don't know if we're ones to talk. I was just going to say, okay, compare Lulu to the Lipshark.

So this is like, I was shocked to see, I went into a Lululemon store at a local mall that had it. And a sweatshirt will cost you about $130, $ and uh a sweatshirt will cost you about 130 140 for a sweatshirt which is just a fairly pricey sweatshirt i mean that's not fairly that is like top of the market sweatshirt like i'd i'd challenge someone to find out more otherwise like pants you're looking like like pants and leggings you're looking at like 128 bucks and shorts shorts i don't consider as bad like their shorts are around like 65 ish, which I mean, you can definitely get cheaper shorts, but you can also find a lot of, yeah, you can find more.

So, um, yeah, it's more like their pants and then their, their tops are just so expensive. Yeah, I can agree with that. It's pretty, it's pretty similar in Canada. I think that that's, that's about the same for the price point. Most pants are anywhere from about 110 to maybe 150. I want to say for women. And that's Canadian dollars. So we'll just assume that's like a made up money that no one really knows what that means.

Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. No one does know. I feel true about the U S. Yeah, I%. Yeah, no one does know. I thought that's true about the US dollar. Yeah, it's a fluid thing. No one knows what it means.

Oh, no one knows what it means. I do know that American dollars are just worth a lot more these days. Are they? Yeah, I guess if we multiply what you just said in Lululemon by Canadian, that would be not multiplied by Canadian. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. The best way for us to do a conversion is by bartering Lululemon items back and forth over the border. It's an elaborate scheme.

I think GameStop. Yeah. And then GameStop's mixed in there too. Oh, for sure. Okay, so last topic. This might be the most important one. And I don't know, sometimes I do a bad job explaining this. You are rated on your performance of Overrated and Underrated. It actually significantly affects your performance of the entire show is your performance on overrated and underrated.

And it usually comes down to the last topic too. So a lot on the line here, no pressure, but overrated or underrated, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, a.k.a. Mounties. Oh, man. I don't even know what the world's opinion of Mounties are. We don't even really get it. So anything you could tell us about it would be interesting.

We can be easily influenced. Okay. Well, I would say, oh, this is a tough one. Underrated because they do a lot more jobs than people think. So in communities that don't have city police, it's the RCMP that do the policing there. Plus they do lots of other stuff as well. Are they always on a horse? I really want to tell everyone that they are.

But sometimes they're, they find the odd move, but that's, but I mean, how often are they, how often are they on the horse and how often are they wearing that, that red suit, you know,

that red hat. Yeah. All that stuff. Both of those two. How often is that really the case? Um, I really want to lie, but it's not that often in everyday life. But if you go to more, I feel like in Ottawa, they'd be on horses more.

And if they're for ceremonial stuff. But they don't actually do a lot. They don't do police work on there. They don't just cruise around wearing the full uniform. They don't wear the red uniform much at all. I don't just cruise around wearing the full uniform. They don't wear the red uniform much at all unless, I think, I don't know, I feel like they do in Ontario, but in some places like Parliament, but I could just be completely wrong because

I'm very far away from Ontario. I'm farther than you can probably. It would be like asking us what it's like in Washington, D.C. I don't know. The RCMP are just the police to me. But they're nicer.

They're nice, though. It's like the police if they were Canadian. Yeah, they're nice. They're nicer than regular police because they're Canadian. Maybe they are. I don't know i lived in a so um for my job i i work about an hour and a half away from saskatoon so i rented this really really cheap place in uh north babelford is where i it was actually number one for crime in canada for a couple of years because there was one crime. There was one crime on record.

I think there's literally eight people who committed a series of crimes, but that is beside the matter. There's actually a lot of stuff that goes on for the size of the place. But anyways, Star Campy would come to my apartment building quite a bit. And they were always, I don't know, they were nice to the people that they were arresting. It seemed weird to me. Getting punished with a smile, I guess.

There were two times where I was eavesdropping and they were just calling the person by name and saying, okay, you need to come in now. And then you could just hear them like get in the back of the car. I don't know. But not that there isn't police brutality here because that is definitely an issue. Right. But yeah, and we're not trying to make light of that, but we still, it is just fun to think that Canadian people are just nicer than Americans in general.

I'll keep perpetuating that stereotype. I am scared of American police. They're so mean. Like whenever I cross the border going into the States, they're so mean to you. They say, what do you got in the cooler? And you say, I got a couple of sandwiches, some oranges. And they're like, oranges? You have citrus fruit?

And I'm like, I don't know. And then when you come back to Canada, they just look at you and say, oh, you're good sometimes. Or like, hey, you got anything illegal back there? And you're like, and say oh you're good sometimes or like hey you got anything illegal back there and you're like no and they're like okay just some president's choice cream soda yeah

pretty much it's a pink label it's counterfeit yeah they would know they would know if they hate yeah have that over Yeah, they would know. They would know that they hate. Yeah, I had that over. So you didn't answer, though, I don't think, officially yet for the RCMP. Or did you?

Underrated. Because they do a lot of work that people, they do police work in tons of places that, yeah, don't have city police, so they have a big job. All right. Cool. Did she pass then? I think she passed. Okay, good news. You did pass overrated and underrated. Nice. You receive two cool beans and five J.D. Power & Associates awards. You receive two Cool Beans and five J.D. Power & Associates awards. That is the best award.

J.D. Power & Associates. What is that? We actually know it just disturbingly. I've heard it so many times. I mean, if you're really asking, we could explain it. We did just go into depth on it kind of the last episodes. We probably don't want to bore you with the details, but there was a man named jd power and it was his family ran the company and they uh gave out awards as i think it maybe started

within the auto industry and then it went into other industries but he just i think at the age of 89 passed away like last week actually jd power Okay, because I've heard, I've always heard so many of those awards being given out, but I've never had any idea of what they are. Now you know. Now you know. I learned something.

Yeah. No, I did. We all learned something today, I think. We learned a lot about Canadian culture. Yeah, we're really in tune with our neighbors to the north. Do you have any other questions about Canadian culture for me? Is Rush Canadian, the band? I think so.

Okay. Okay. That was the question. That was the question. I think so. Okay. That was the question. Yes, you passed that one. I guess we're going to talk about noteworthy Canadians. Do you know who Nathan Fielder is? Yes. You do? The comedian?

Nathan for you was a show on TV? Yes. Oh, do you know? Okay, I could have this wrong. I could have this wrong. Do you know who Nardwar is? Who? Nardwar.

Okay, you probably don't. He's a music guy. I'm pretty sure he's pretty well known in the music industry. He's interviewed a lot of people. I'm pretty sure he's from Saskatoon. I could be wrong, though. Saskatoon or Saskatchewan? No, I think Saskatoon, because I always thought he was saying Saskatchewan wrong, because

I'm like, oh, that's the craziest Canadian accent that he says Saskatoon that way, or Saskatchewan that way. But I think he's from Saskatoon. Might have to look him up someday. Might have to look him up on YouTube. He has some pretty wild interviews with any musician you could ever think of. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess I had to look him up on YouTube. He has some pretty wild interviews with any musician you could ever think of. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I guess I had to look him up. And he's very, very weird. And it's weird. And he's very weird. Nice. That's even better to look up.

Cause I don't know, look up someone who it's better to look up people who are weird. And I mean weird in like a good noteworthy kind of way. Not like he's creepy or anything. Yeah. Well, either way, it's still interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

I recommend checking those out. Okay. Otherwise, yeah, I guess Tanner is making a Canadian call. The last time he got done. Oh, dang it. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about it. When we called Hayden Bowe, Hayden and Steffi.

Hayden still has a Canadian number. And Tanner got hit with a little bit of a long distance bill. if you want to run up Tanner's phone line you can talk about whatever you want right now it this is on Tanner's dime that reminds me we should probably wrap this up oh if you want to sound like you're from Saskatchewan okay so all the other provinces would probably say Saskatchewan that's what if you from Saskatchewan, you say Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan. So if you walk around and say, hello, fellow Saskatchewan person, they would be like, ah, he's one of us.

Yeah. If you said Saskatchewan, they'd be like, hey. It's an outsider. It's because when you're from Saskatchewan, you always win. I like that. I like that. I like that because even no one knows where we are. Like if you ask someone, one time my parents were driving down the highway in the States,

in like Washington or something, and someone leaned out the window and said, Saskatchewan, where the hell is that? And it's not very far. It's probably just a few hours. No one knows where we are. We don't understand anything beyond just what the outline of the map that they teach us in the 50 states.

The world ends outside of that. There's water on both sides and then nothingness above and below. There's nothingness and then Alaska is up there. We're not really sure what's between here and Alaska. Nobody really knows. There are a bunch of Americans stopping in

Banff actually. I feel like that's been an Instagram hotspot these last few years oh for sure yeah it is really beautiful um definitely looks a lot better than saskatchewan saskatchewan's flatland so we go out there areas like that quite a bit it's only like a day drive not so bad okay one one more question here so instagram massonomics has what what do we have tanner 34 35 000 okay we have 35 000 followers and it's dumb memes you have a hundred and some thousand and you're a woman i got to imagine your dm situation is just a a scary place isn't it

uh yeah especially in the beginning although there's the odd one still that creeps in there. Yeah. Like, is it a lot? Are you asking me? Well, like, Masonomics gets a lot of DMs on a daily basis. Like, people just always want to know things or just give an encouraging word or say something really dumb. Yeah. There's just a lot of people that want to be in on the jokes and a lot of good stuff.

Tanner manages the account. But, Tanner, if you just you just said like Masonomics is now five times bigger, we have five times as many DMs, would your head go like, no, that's just not doable at this point? Well, it just would make it to the point where, because like as it is, we can kind of manage it and keep up with most of them and we don't, not a lot slip through the cracks and we can even look through the filth, you know, the, I don't know how it works. It's like the, some people just show up where it's like.'re they're in there you don't have to accept their request right right and like some are just like in the request and like we get through most of those do you even

look in that spot like the place where you get the messages where it's like not people you follow or whatever that is i do look and sometimes i wish i didn't. I can't keep up with all of them though. I do not answer the majority because they're, they can. Yeah. Just because I mean, I usually don't open mysterious photos or videos. I thought you guys were going to ask like the weirdest DM I ever got.

And I was like, Oh no. Well, I just assumed that that's a very slippery. Yeah. Like, and where are you? Like weirdest, like that's a very slippery slope. Yeah, and where you can draw the line at.

Yeah, for sure. Like weirdest? Like that's even mildly a problem? Like it's not just disturbing? Like where do you even draw the line at that? No, we can only, like thankfully we don't, I mean we don't have to experience that, so it is hard to imagine what that's like. Yeah, I feel like that's part of being a woman on Instagram, I guess.

So we probably don't have to deal with that scary part of the internet. Yeah, the scary part. I'm trying to think of one that might be like, sometimes it's the language, but oh, you know what? I don't know if I should say this or not. I guess it's the language, but, oh, you know what? I don't know if I should say this or not. I guess it's not live. So there was one that was super disturbing. I reported this person, but then I knew it was real because they deleted their entire account and their email address after this.

It was early on in Instagram, like probably sometime around where I had maybe not 2,000 followers, but more than that. Someone DMed me and said, hey, can I ask you a question? And I was so naive at this point. Then I asked them and said, yes, which I'll never, I never did again after this. Yeah. It's like, yeah, don't, this won't open up. Because then they, they asked me to send a video they were offering to pay me ten thousand dollars for a video so i asked what kind of video

and they wanted a video of me killing a gerbil or a hamster in a high heel whoa that is that is something like there stuff I know and I was so I was pretty sure I was 19 years old did you take it in a check or cash so I bought a pair of lift shorts at least a down payment

wow yeah that is that's some out there stuff that is really weird but also that I guess that's the internet. Like it is just that, that is what it's like on the internet. Yeah. I just never know. Yeah.

So that's, it's not like that anymore so much though. Or maybe I just don't open those anymore. Right. I don't open the door. I would imagine it's probably you don't open those anymore. Yeah. I bet it hasn't stopped. I don't think people have gotten better since then.

No. And you know what? I love that there's a restrict feature because there's a lot of people it's, it's like being blocked, but they don't, they don't know it. Right. So it's sometimes people say things that are just annoying and they're not even, it's not even bad. It's just that I don't want, want i don't want to i don't want to interact with you anymore and then restrict them but you still get to see what they say which is somewhat entertaining yeah this is one guy that he's been giving me unsolicited advice on my squat for years and i he doesn't know he's restricted so he just well but has your squat gone

up over this time though it has so he probably thinks it's been helping well we we probably think it has too you've been subliminally using those all those important cues yeah he's probably had some really helpful cues like that you're just absorbing that when you started to say that that was the first thing I was thinking I'm like ah, ah, that's also a thing where men think that they're supposed to give women lifting advice, like unsolicited lifting advice. You'd be shocked at how many people. This has been people who do this on a regular basis. They DM me to say, hey, you have a great squat um but i know you could squat

500 pounds if you warm if you trained using bands thanks oh yeah that would be super cool i don't never answer one of those but sorry i already used they just think it's gonna beat them at their own game. Like bands. Like those booty band things that go around your knees. Oh, that's what they're saying? More like a west side. Yeah, those.

So those. It's like, man. That's even worse then. They just drop it like it's a revelation. So some of those people are restricted because you i don't know what they think but they think i haven't um done my research is what they think i guess so yeah i just stumbled into it like i just accidentally was like lifting this much

yeah you know what though my community on instagram is actually over the years now it's very overly uh on average positive so very grateful for that um it's only when things get shared outside of instagram sometimes that other ones come in and sometimes if i'm having a bad day it's nice to come home and go on a long walking spree. But only occasionally. It's been very good for the most part. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I have had it pop up like on Snapchat.

I don't know if you have Snapchat too. Yeah, you do too. And, you know, unlike this, I don't know, like the news page or whatever. I don't know what you call that of Snapchat. Like their discover. Yeah, like discover or whatever and like they'll have lifting things on there they're in there so those catch my eye from time to time and I have seen you Jessica pop up a few times in those things and I can only imagine like like if there's a way for those people to comment to you it's like people that

maybe don't even know about lifting at all and they want to give you advice and comments but i have i actually have seen you pop up in those a couple of times before which i thought was interesting yeah you know a couple of my friends sent me screenshots and i thought that was really cool i don't think snapchat is the worst community i think if we're talking about the worst communities um i think reddit and facebook, a non lifting section of Reddit or are probably the best ones. Yeah. I don't know what you guys think. It's hard to say, like have any conversation about the worst community and not involve Facebook in any, like, I mean, you just got to assume always just because it's the biggest. So you're always going to get the lowest common denominator there. But, uh, yeah, I think Reddit in any community that's like doesn't understand what the subject is,

they're always going to be bad on it too because it's just, it's huge echo chambers of just people ganging up on things that they don't understand. Yeah, it's everyone just watching a deadlift and saying, that hurts my back. And then they're like, that's not attractive. And it's like well i don't

think it is because you're literally straining to the max it'd be kind of weird that wasn't the goal oh dang it i was going for most attractive those kind of things that are funny and sometimes it's not even being female it's just the ignorance in general that's just i actually get more of a kick out of it now so i really don't take it too seriously i understand that i mean i'm so into this sport and there's very few people outside of the powerlifting community that are going to actually understand lifting weights. So I do just get a kick out of some of the comments because they just, you know, like you can just only imagine what people will say who don't lift. Right.

That's when we have a post that goes somewhat, I don't know, more viral-ish or more popular, and it starts to get all these comments from outside of our normal sphere. That's when we get the most ridiculous ones where I'm like, okay, I know this post is going big because we're getting all these comments from people that have absolutely no clue about like what's going on in this video or lifting. Yes, right, right. So it really is when you get outside of your normal circle when that starts to happen too.

Oh, 100%. And what was that about people stealing your flag designs? Yeah, it did happen. There was an equipment manufacturing company that used something very, very similar of of ours and they did uh within that very first night to be fair they uh took it down stopped selling it yeah they they said and and since have been have been very fair yeah yeah they were fair about it so yeah that one's uh we consider that water yeah so we try not to throw them you know people other people still

will bring it up and like I don't discourage people because people still make some funny comments and I always like a good funny comment but we try just not to we try not to be overly negative. We're not pig piling on them anymore because they did in the end they were cool about it and kind of agreed

so, but yeah, that did happen and if nothing else it got us pretty excited for an evening and got us going on something oh that's really good that they took that back though that makes me happy they did and they were

yeah and they were cool about it in which then we had to kind of try to like reel in all of our good you know all the people that really have our back everyone with the pitchforks and the torches. We had to tell them to stop. Stop. Please.

It's far enough. Because that is what it's like. Oh, yeah. For sure. It's like when someone says something slightly negative and all of a sudden you have all these people that are just like, yes, that's my cue to internet bullying. We're going hard.

Yeah, things can get out of hand in a hurry if you're not careful. Yeah. Jessica, another thing I usually like to get out there for anyone that's on, I know you're sponsored by like Rascal Apparel and there's probably some other things. Is there any of those that you wanted to shout out? Oh, for sure. Yeah. that you wanted to shout out? Oh, for sure, yeah.

Rascal, and then there's Inner Strength Products, which is basically powerlifting equipment supply. They're big in Canada anyways, and they're actually fairly local. They're out of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, and also Supplement World Canada and Elemental Formulations. Very cool. Awesome. Rascal by Omar. And we need to get Omar on the podcast.

We do, yeah. We should. Put some feelers on. Oh, yeah, for sure. That'd be a good one for sure. They've got lots of new stuff coming up and I'm grateful for all my sponsors for sure. Cause, um, it's definitely made a difference in my listing. It's nice to have a community.

Definitely. Yeah, for sure. Uh, no, that's, that's cool. That's great. Next time we're in the Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, we will look you up and we'll, we've got you down on the schedule for the Highland Games Festival in Aberdeen. So we'll be touching base when that gets a little closer to make sure that you have travel arrangements all figured out for that. Oh, for sure. And you guys will have to come down if you're in Saskatoon to Rise Strength Club. And everyone's going to Jefferson Deadlift that day.

Jefferson Deadlift Party. All right. We'll teach them the lessons of American democracy, just as our founding fathers would have wanted. Absolutely. Awesome. Well, we appreciate having you on. This is a lot of fun. Yeah. Thanks a lot, Jessica. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. All right. See ya. Yep. Bye-bye. was a lot of fun yeah thanks a lot jessica absolutely thanks for having me all right see ya

yep bye-bye well tommy what do you give it we give the cool beans a couple of them a couple of them you get at least a couple cool beans there yeah yeah yeah that uh canadian phone bill we'll see what that one's going to come out to. Hopefully you pay the bill and not your wife, Tanner. I do. I do see it. And she's also going to be like,

what actually can you see on a phone bill? Can you see? You can see the number you call. Who's this Jessica from Saskatoon that you talked to for an hour? Everyone else, it just shows a number, but it shows a name for that one on the phone bill. An hour? While you weren't at home that one evening. 10 o'clock at night?

What is this about? Yeah, I forgot about that about halfway through, and then you brought it up again, and it reminded me. I'm like, oh, yeah. And then it was just bittersweet. I want her to hang up so bad. Please drop the call.

Just kidding. Oh, we're going in a low spot. Gotta go. Sorry, Jessica, going through a tunnel. Oh, well, I think we hit all the highlights there, Tanner. We did. I do like the sounds of life in Saskatoon, though. You know, sounds like just the South Dakota to the north, I would say.

Which isn't North Dakota. The South Dakota to the north, not North Dakota. It's not North. That is the thing, though. It's not North Dakota. No, we don't count them. The South Dakota to the north is Saskatoon. Yeah, the South Dakota to the north is definitely Saskatoon.

It's not North Dakota. That's the best part. We just skip right over them yeah all right very cool beans um that kind of mostly wraps up this episode i suppose what product wise uh what we this week we restocked um lift banners deadlifter banners and hats a full restock on hats uh we had been kind of low inventory on a lot of hats, and some of those are already moving. And we never buy a ton of inventory on hats.

So if you're in the market for one, now's the time to get one. And then I'm kind of the laziest on reordering those. We do not sell, we sell but a fraction of hats. I know, it's just because T-shirts just outnumber them so hard. And a little just like insight on merchandise sales. Like I would love to hear if someone else that sells stuff disagrees with this, but hats are not like the profitable, no profitable venture that they cost way more.

Yeah. You can't still have to sell them for about the same. You can't mark them up the same way or people won't buy them right they're a pain to ship yeah yeah they just have a lot of things going against them yeah but we do have them um i guess we do it for you guys yeah and i mean the hats are really nice like they are like we would have quit selling them if they weren't no hats and like uh i think basically every this goes for almost every hat that we have for sale. We do a puff embroidery, which is a cool look.

It's different than just your basic embroidery, especially like on the lift hats. The puff embroidery lift hats really do look cool. Yeah. I mean, very similar to what you'd find in like any new era, like ball cap of any kind. And like we do, a couple of the hats we do sell are new era ones. Yeah, they are new era.

We have one in like an OD camo and then the navy uh navy lift hat navy lift those two are actually our new era hats and they're uh like 25 bucks so pretty good deal on uh yeah yeah you can't buy a new era cap for 25 bucks at all that's embroidered no i mean if you're like us you probably can you even buy a hat in the mall like a place to buy a hat in the mall not in our, but maybe in a bigger city. Yeah. Right. If they still have malls.

Yeah. Our mall's really bad. It is. You could say in trouble. Yeah. Our mall is in big trouble. Yep. Is that about it, Tommy?

Is there anything else we were missing on this one? I think that's about it. Oh, could I get out a couple podcast reviews before we yeah do it up yeah because we're never we're never catching up on these podcast reviews no they're just flying in i mean i'm trying don't get me wrong we're gonna try and uh it's still but when all of a sudden you think you're on the road to 300 and then it just switches the road to 400 on you like it's like man yeah we're trying though we're gonna do our best these five words i swear to you will be there for you uh ceo of pbg says it good it good mini car awards hot water adds spicy bubbles no outside jokes pie yes apple must move objective objectives difficult existence relaxed ceo pbg i like that move did you catch this difficult existence relaxed yep for a second

had to be existence relaxed and then i went oh yeah took it all yeah that's good that's really good very good this one's from Ken mitt, Aberdeen, a lovely place. Um, would it be more accurate to say you are located in Eastern North Central South Dakota? I think if we were a little bit more to the Southwest, we would say that.

Yeah. I don't think that that's accurate. It's not, we would not say we're from eastern, north, central South Dakota. You know, you get maybe closer to your hometown. You're getting warmer than Tanner. Your hometown's getting warmer than that. But we're not quite there.

No. We're not quite there. No. We didn't just randomly pick directions off the map when we assigned where we're at. Geographically correct. This was thought out. Anyway, easily in my top five favorite podcast about sparkling water. Last one for today, Swendola, Massonomics, It's Better Than Real Life.

If you are reading this review, you clearly have the time to live easy. And if you also enjoy weightlifting and strongman and want to feel a little more in tune with the industry, it's a great way to spend an hour or so. Yep, you'll wind up with a few t-shirts on your doorstep and probably end up buying a texas barbell in the next 6 to 12 months but there's worse ways to spend your time and money i feel like that's just like a very uh he like he left a very honest review it was like the sales yeah it's like uh yeah i mean it's pretty good um. If you start listening, you'll probably listen to more.

Then you'll probably buy some stuff. There's worse things to do. Let's be honest. It's not the worst thing that could happen. Probably not the best. Yeah, okay. Thank you, reviews. This week's show was brought to you by Lifting Large.

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So do sign up to becoming a member. There's all the different levels there, and we love those things. That's just awesome to see that. Tommy, where do they find you on Instagram? you can find me at tomahawk underscore d you can follow me at tanner underscore baird but nobody cares about that make sure to follow massonomics at massonomics see ya