Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 274: @SnatchinSnacks Wes Richardson

Episode Date: July 5, 2021

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You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! Good morning, Vietnam. Ever seen that movie? Apocalypse Now? Yes.

I've always wanted to do that on the podcast. Have you ever seen that movie, Tanner? Good morning, Vietnam or Apocalypse Now? Isn't it from Apocalypse Now? Well, it's from Good Morning, Vietnam, Robin Williams. Oh, don't they say it in Apocalypse Now? Isn't it from Apocalypse Now? Well, it's from Good Morning Vietnam, Robin Williams. Oh. Don't they say it in Apocalypse Now? I've never seen Apocalypse Now,

but if they do, it's because it's off of... It's an old movie. It's Robin Williams, one of his probably earlier... I've never seen that movie. I can tell you that. But if they do say it in there, it's really catchy from that movie, and a lot of people will say it.

They probably said it actually in Vietnam. They probably did say that. So every movie that says it is probably historically accurate, especially the movie called good morning. Vietnam. It does make the most sense in that one. I made the mistake. I should, I don't know if it's a mistake,

but the only time I've seen apocalypse now is I rented the dirt. I rented on, on DVD. So this is already red box. No, a video store. so aging it even more I rented the director's cut which I think it's already like almost a three-hour movie and that pumps it like well over the three and a half hour mark which is a really long movie and then on top of that I started at like midnight so yeah that was that one was a trip man that took take some time I don't

even know what that movie is. I don't know. I've heard of it. I mean, I've heard the name. Okay. I could be totally wrong here, but I believe what's Charlie Sheen's dad's name. Why can't I think of his name? Martin. I don't know.

Yeah. That's not right. I, I don't, I can't think of his name. I can't. Martin Sheen. Is that it? I don't know. That's what I'm, that's what I said, but I might be wrong on that.

God, we're probably just sounding so stupid right now, Tanner. What else is new? But I'm pretty sure it's him i'm butchering this i don't i honestly don't remember they go into the jungle one guy's like a prisoner of war okay he's like going to the jungle and actually like the people have like worshiped this man as a god and he's like it's so it's such a it's like a psychological thing it's not recommended or i mean it is widely considered to be one of the best movies of all time. I think one of the better war movies ever made. I shouldn't say the best movie of all time.

Have you ever watched Full Metal Jacket? Oh, yeah. I've seen that one a lot. I could tell you what that one's about very easily. Full Metal Jacket. I've seen that one a lot, yeah. Yeah. So this is episode 274 of the Mastodonomics Podcast,

if you haven't figured that out yet by this conversation we've had. We do really bad summaries of war movies. Have you ever seen Jarhead? have i have actually i went to that in the theater that's really that has to be from like 2007 or 8 i bet if yeah yeah i would put it in there yeah that's a good one saving private ryan's good too tanner that's good uh tom hanks um yeah what's pearl harbor was the movie called pearl harbor i think so or was it called something Ryan's good too, Tanner. That's good. Tom Hanks. Yeah. What's Pearl Harbor? Was the movie called Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck? I think so. Or was it called something else?

I think it was called Pearl Harbor. Was it Ben Affleck in that one? Yeah, I think so. I never saw that one. Armageddon. He was in that one. Not exactly a war movie. Well, it was the war.

They're going to war against a rock there. You got to go to war on that rock, brother. 274. We're live in the studio here in uh western northeast south dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy should we hear from a sponsor today let's do it before we forget okay let's hear from our sponsor let's hear from texas power bars buddy caps first started lifting weights in the late 60s and being began power lifting in the mid 70s at that time he was working for image barbell building gym equipment around 1976 a local machine shop started making Olympic bars for them and calling

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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Ah, right. That's Apocalypse Now. Okay, so that's already making way more sense. And then a quick synopsis on Apocalypse Now, Tanner. Yep. Vietnam, 1970. Martin Sheen takes a perilous

and increasingly hallucinatory journey upriver to find and terminate Colonel Kurtz, played by Marlon Brando. Terminate. Increasingly hallucinatory journey upstream. You have my attention. Yes. Tanner, we have a lot to talk about. We do have a huge episode here. I do have to say right off the bat, also more follow-up from previous episodes.

Yeah. I have spent a fair amount of time really... Digging into barbecue sauces. Really digging into barbecue sauces, and I can give Uncle Gary's mustard twang and cock sauce my seal of approval. I have more follow-up. Well, just wait. No, this is important to know. Uncle Gary is his uncle.

Oh, it is. It really is Uncle Gary. No, it is. It really is Uncle Gary. Is it his very own mustard twang? Yeah, I guess so. We talked about it just the other day and it turns out i was like oh i didn't realize that's actually your uncle you know usually just a fictitious

yeah right right right okay no it's his uncle well i'll start with the cock sauce because that one got sent to us first uh it is one of the more unique barbecue sauces i've ever had i don't know if someone put it in front of me if i would immediately be like that's barbecue sauce because it's not like to me it doesn't have the traditional barbecue sauce flavor yep but what really did it for me is i went over to old flying ryan's house and he he made some wings with that and they were so damn good nice i would just went over for like a little did he like the cock sauce too he did he did that's what he made it yeah oh yeah yeah yeah and it was i thought we went over for like a lunch on a friday i thought it was oh it's just going to be a light lunch and

i put down like 15 wings i couldn't stop on them plus he made pizzas too so i'm just like smashing pizza and wings that's the cock sauce for you it was amazing and then yeah i've been hitting the uncle gary's mustard twang pretty hard it's it's doing it for me man nice so uh all good all good news to report there. Grant's actual Uncle Gary. That guy knows a thing or two. About a thing or two. So good barbecue sauce follow-up. Good barbecue sauce follow-up for sure.

Excellent. What do we want to talk about next? I know we have a can this week. I know. Okay. Maybe we should do the can first. Okay. Sounds good. So the can first, Tanner. Okay, sounds good. So this is a special can.

This is a special what's in the can. Okay. Tanner, get that bandana on. Suit up. We're going in on this one. Suit up. So I will say that this one was mailed in. This one arrived on my doorstep yesterday.

All right. So it's hot off the... It's hot off the press, but fresh off cold ice, too, you could say. I know you don't like how I met your mother, but Barney does like to say suit up. That is one of his catchphrases. Yeah, he does wear that suit all the time, doesn't he? Okay, Tanner, here is... The early 2000s were a crazy time.

Here is your can. I was just looking in shipping. Yours would get slightly dented, but it's not too bad. I feel some. There you go. Right there. Right there. Okay.

And I have not tasted this yet either. So this is a fan. This is a fan submission. And I'm using my charcuterie board here from Big Kyle. I like that idea. And this one's got a little story behind it, Tanner. Well, it's a brewski, isn't it? I'm going to say it's a brewski.

You are detecting some alcohol. That is correct. Or is it a beer? Is it a beer? It is, in fact, a beer. Okay, I was going to say it's got to be a beer. It's a good beer. Were you between beer and Cherry Coke?

This has got to be vanilla Cherry Coke. It's a good beer. It's not the traditional crispy boy. It's like a full-body boy? Well, I really like this. It almost has a full body boy. Well, this is a great, I really like this. It almost has a little, I'm not great at my beer. You know, I'm not great at knowing my beers and stuff, but like almost like a summery ale type of flavor to me.

That's the best way I know how to describe it. Okay. No idea what it is exactly here, but it's a brewski and I like it. This is a brewski up my alley. Well, why don't you take a look at the label, Tanner? Alright. He's pulling it out of the koozie as we speak. Turn it around to the front.

Who's Jude? Judd Who's inspired. Who's Juice? Which is Judd Who's great great name great name yes so that is awesome and this is made by this is whose juice judd who's inspired juicy india pale ale by remedy brewing co out of sioux falls south dakota and um it's a six and a half percent alcohol it's uh as far as that IPA goes it's it's definitely not a harsh one like if I was no this is I like IPAs but if I was gonna if someone was

like I don't really care for IPAs I need to ease into it I'd say this is a great one to go with ready to crank it up this refreshingly flavorful IPA inspired by the South Dakota rock band Judd Hoos is packed with tons of hoppy and hazy deliciousness. Our art is beer. Please enjoy it with us. More follow-up on Judd Hoos. They're going to be playing in Brentford, my hometown, in July here. So I'm hoping to make the trip to... They gave you the backstage passes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hoping that maybe I could get on stage and so this was this talking to the microphone for like an hour for everyone they're like our opener is coming out the standard tommy hey i'm just gonna give everyone a 10 000 foot view here of what's going on tonight uh just throwing cans at us so this is uh sent over by big chris of judd hoose yeah he uh i got this on my doorstep last night i didn't know what it was he just said he's going to be sending a package and at first i didn't i didn't i wasn't i didn't even know if it was a beverage i wasn't going to open it but i did see on the box it said big tommy put on ice so i'm like okay i gotta i gotta open this and put in the fridge so i saw the name and i'm like awesome okay, I got to open this and put it in the fridge. So I saw the name, and I'm like, awesome.

They nailed that. Who's Juice? That's killer. That's radical. I love it. I love it. So I give this four, four and a half cool beans. Yeah, this is a good beer. I mean, this fits my personal taste in beer really, really well.

Like, this is something I could drink many of and yeah keep enjoying it we got a tanner we've said this before but we really got to work on our beer we really do don't this really makes you think it doesn't it it really does that we need a beer collaboration yep yep well here's the sioux falls company right there yep actually you know what i kind of have a well this could be an in i kind of have a connection to another one I could mention. I could mention off air to you, Tanner. All right. Okay.

I'm trying to think if we want to talk about your meat now or talk about one more silly little thing. What do you think, Tanner? Yeah. Maybe a silly little thing. Silly little thing. Okay. We can just talk about the meat leading up into our guest. Since we're on the topic of all...

Because I have a lot of things to say about the meat. Okay, yeah. I don't want to interrupt you. Since we're on the topic of all i have a lot of things to say about okay yeah i don't want to interrupt you since we're on the topic of all things south dakota tanner something was brought to my attention today that i didn't know existed and it made me laugh hard and i don't know i don't know how much we can actually play on the podcast without it like flagging i don't think i don't think we'll get flagged for anything because we don't monetize that we don't have youtube ads on do we on our thing we don't so i don't think we'll get monetized i don't think we'll get hit on that plus this is a really low-key song so i'm not sure

that uh it's popping i'm not sure that it's even popping up so okay god damn there's so many things listed here here we go danner have you ever heard of a man named afro man oh yeah you know afro man went through the white land and houses went up for sale you know classic hits like because i got high and um cult 45 and two zigzags uh palmdale all these all these classics all good songs mostly came from one album in 2001 if you didn't just sit around and drink beers with your buddies and scream those songs did you really live no you did not and if you didn't listen because i got high when you're in like fifth grade and not really get totally what was going on but so believe it

or not afro man's still pumping out music he has a pretty deep discography on uh on spot can i get that cord from you there oh yeah he has a pretty deep discography on on spot can i get that cord from you there oh yeah he has a pretty deep discography on spotify and today someone brought to my attention a certain album he had came out last year 2020 i'm just assuming this flew under the radar because of covid you know with everything going on with everything going on um but this album what's so great about it is it's called cross cross-country pimping and the song names are In California, Wyoming, Pimpin, Pennsylvania, Oregon Girl, Nebraska, Homegrown Alabama, Idaho, Fun in Washington. And the last song on the track on the album is South Dakota.

And the man knows his geography is all I can say, Tanner. The man knows his geography is all I can say, Tanner. He also knows how to put a nice smooth Hotel California cover on. Yeah, yeah. But we won't play the whole thing here. But we'll let the sweet vibes take us over for a minute while we're enjoying this South Dakota-themed IPA. After this, could we do Cult 45? It's all part of the plan.

I tried to fuck a girl from Sioux Falls Pushed some texts all night and gave me blue balls I did teasers, teasers from the city of Mitchu Never gave me the pussy, bitchu Rapping to the girls in Rapid City But they left rapidly, what a pity I just don't want to stay here in the basketball world. Lead. He just saw it on a map. And Pierre.

Or Pierre. Pierre, you know, South Dakota insider there. And here's where's what's good that's great is there ever an aberdeen It is really Afro-man-y. What a hook, huh? Okay, here we go. Maybe the most South Dakota song ever made. That's good. for people that aren't aware these are all south dakota cities he's nailing it okay i think we're at aberdeen right here i think

you know what i feel like he's doing with that album like that sounds only good for this it's like here i'll put out these 15 songs he's just hoping it'll go viral like right right in that state they're just gonna love it yeah and that uh it's funny and i'm sure the i didn't even listen to any other songs i'm sure they're pretty much all the same yeah it's the same thing and uh i mean the man's career definitely had its had its hits in 2001 with uh with the good times album yeah yeah because i got high crazy just the songs in that are also they're good they're good but uh yeah man afro man he's back he's still still kicking come back still kicking. Don't call it a comeback. Still kicking. He ain't never gone. But it is funny because, like, Colt 45 and two zigzags. It has 167 million plays.

Because I Got High has 105 million plays. That South Dakota song, 30,000. So not quite up there to the same caliber. But once people know about it now, it's going to be blowing up. Yes. All right, Tanner. Enough of this dilly-dattle. Oh, you know what?

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Okay, Tanner. Time to get to business here. Time to whip out my meat. You had to get your meat out. Your meat has traveled to the far end. That's what this hole is for. The meat hole. Your meat has traveled to the far end of South Dakota.

It's came back with riches and medals and stories and traveled and pillaged yeah so you got stuff to tell us i did uh go do the meet this last weekend so today we're recording on wednesday it was uh saturday about three four or five days ago so still pretty fresh in my mind and the first thing i want to say and part of my french but it was so fucking fun it was just so much and this is your first meet and then that did we say four years four and a half almost four and a half i kind of did the math on it because i'm like how long has it been so i had to look you know trust the open power lifting and and it's just about four and a half years and i had honestly now i realized i had forgotten how much fun it is and how much I actually like it.

Like, and how much fun the competing in the powerlifting meet is. And now I remember. And it was just, I had so much fun. I rode such a high from that. Like the whole day, it was just like, so, and I did well for myself. So that helps, of course. That definitely does help you not body out. I can honestly say i would have had a fun time even if i would have just had an average day though you know so it wasn't just about like how i did personally it was just like

just being around all the people and cheering for them and them cheering for you and the backslaps and the warm in and it looked like there was fans there too yeah and so that was so that let me start with that that was possibly as cool as anything is that there was just running into people that were wearing massonomic stuff there is just so cool to me like that is just like the funnest thing in the world, just seeing other people. Big Nate, who I didn't know his name beforehand, he was wearing the same singlet I was. And I recognized him from Instagram. As soon as I saw him, I'm like, I know this guy

because he always wears the Lift Shorts 2.0. And Big Nate went on about how much he loves the Lift Shorts 2.0. And he wears them all the time and loves them. And he was wearing the Massanomic singlet. And then big dave from north dakota was wearing the bench heavy shirt uh so you know he follows massanomics and i see him on there so i first time getting to meet him but just him wearing that around funny story there was a guy wearing a deadlifter hat big jacked guy real jacked like kind of you know where guy where people almost look scary because they're like yep and he's wearing the deadlifter hat and he walks by me.

I'm sitting there talking to some of the other guys I had met already. And I catch out of the car in my eye. I'm like, oh, sweet. And I go, hey, I like your hat. And thinking he might know who I am, you know. And he had no idea. Would never have known. It's like he's never seen what my face looks like before.

You know, like would never know what either of us look like. And he just kind of gave me a funny look and was like oh thanks like weird thing to say as i'm walking by and i'm like oh i'm one of the guys that owns that company and then he's like oh cool like i just want to tell you i love how you guys send those notes out when i get those like you sent me a band first i think i ordered was a banner and you sent a note for it and then this hat and you sent another note and it's like people just don't do that like I thought that was so cool and I was like yeah I was like that was awesome yep um so that was part of the cool you know that was part of it what I'm talking about how exciting it was too is just that massonomics thing too uh-huh you know and uh being around my people yeah yeah and but just getting back to just

generally about the power lifting and power lifting meets this was a usa uspa meet in rapid city and live streamed on twitch live so I think the live stream was pretty good too uh and so it was put on by uh big al at squat to depth uh squat to depth apparel or productions or whatever you want to call it and they do a really good job come up from st louis and it was awesome like really cool uh great setup like the gym is very small and stuff and it was cramped in there could honestly use more space but that really just affects the spectators we had yeah good warm-up room and great platform and good uh on deck area and all that stuff but just i didn't know anyone

no one came with you know i didn't know anyone there you went solo and by the end of the day i felt like i honestly had like 25 new really good friends like that's what it honestly felt like it's like as long as you're willing to just say oh hey where are you from and what's your name like you by the end of the day you just have like 20 people that yeah and as long as you don't get unlucky and talk to the one dick that's there and i didn't find him like he probably was there but even the people when you just scope people out and you're like oh that guy looks like a dick all the people that i thought that by the end of the day i'm like oh no i like you're also cool and it is it's like well all these people like the same one you know same thing i really like so

weird if we can't be buddies you know exactly exactly but just really cool people i just really loved lifting with the people and so supportive like in the warm-up room i forgot what it's like just um sharing the equipment and just like what do you want on here yeah right it's right and it's like uh and then just getting getting um hyped up for your lifts like like the screaming and just getting you pumped up with people that I didn't know five hours ago. Just super cool. Getting out of the monotony of just training. Yeah.

Yeah. And the other thing I was going to say is I kind of had my reservations. I had never really vocalized it going into this meet that I didn't really know if I had it in me anymore to get that excited. Well, we were talking about that long ago. You're like, honestly,

I could just go to the gym and have no music on, but it'd be really weird. We said that not that long ago. Right. And I kind of like, I also had the thought like, you know, I have a really nice life now and like three kids and it's all this other stuff

going on it's a hassle and also like i just was worried i couldn't get in the mental space where i'm like i am so into this one lift right now that's what i care about right now because almost like have all this other stuff going on it's all good and i you know it's just like i just kind of doubted if, if I could actually go to war with the bar, you know, so to speak, you know,

like to be overdramatic about it, like actually be that interested or, or, or care enough about whether I get it or not get it to get it when it gets really hard. And I found out, yeah, I could still do that.

And that was really fun. Like getting amped up for lifts. Oh, so much fun. It's so cool. And, um, as could still do that. And that was really fun, like getting amped up for lifts. Oh, so much fun. So cool. And as far as the meet goes, I went, do you say eight for eight? Like I didn't take a third attempt bench. Eight for eight or eight for nine, however you want to say it.

Squats went really good. I squatted a meet. We should even say before this goes, though, that Tanner, your meet prep was going so good, you even had the perfect minor injury happen ahead of time. really good I I squatted we should we should even say before this goes though that Tanner you your meat prep was going so good you even had the perfect minor injury happen ahead of time yeah yeah yeah that's uh like 10 days before the meat I strained my right pack a little like what I thought was at the time really minor and I kept thinking oh this is just going to get better this will just be fine before the meat I got plenty of time to rest up and heal and it never really got much better it kind of always felt the same I was always kind of messing with it and

feeling it and like bending over and doing a pitch up like this wasn't in the gym you know yeah I was like moving my trailer around at home and and I could feel it like when it happened I'm like oh no why because up till that point everything was going uh i mean as close to perfect as it could go and then i had this little injury and so it was still bothering me even the morning before i'm like i don't really know if i'm going to be able to bet i really didn't know if i was going to be able to bench kind of at that point like if i was going to be able to bench at all but so i went through squats and squats weren't really good i actually actually had bumped down my numbers a little bit from what my plan was.

And in hindsight, I should have just stuck with the plan. Why did you bump them down? Just because in my warm-ups, it being earlier in the day on squats, you know, at like 9, 10 in the morning. And like my last warm-up, I was like, it was just being a poor judge of it. I'm just judging it myself kind of and just thinking it was a little slower than what it's really like. And, and kind of not,

not, yeah. Don't normally squat in the morning. Right. Right. In a totally different place, totally different place. And I hadn't been on the platform yet.

And also forgetting like what I can get out of the platform to like there. I love it. Like I do better when like, I think probably a lot of people experience this but when I'm out there like I feel it feels different than oh yeah I'm messing around and I just so I did my first and second and on my third I went for like 462 which would be which is a PR for me I should have done like a 562 okay okay 562 all right on on the squat and I should have done more I should have done

at least 10 pounds more I probably you know like 573 or whatever that that number is I think that would have been a lot better uh-huh number where I still would have got it but it wouldn't uh wouldn't have killed me still but I was still happy because that was a meet pr and yeah and like I got all three lifts and it really moved pretty good. And I was still stoked about that. So that was good. And then bench press was what I was very worried about because. But it was initially what you were very excited about. Yeah, that was the lift going into it where I just knew that I was going to crush my former meet PR.

My former best was 440. And I just basically thought in my mind, like, there's no way I'm not beating this by like 20 pounds at the, at almost at the least, just because it felt so good. And so I did 418 as my opener. Going through warmups in the warmup room, it, it felt a little tight, but not that bad. And I was like, okay, I'm going to be able to bench. So I did 418 and it went really fast and that would have been my planned opener anyways. Okay. So you're on track so far. Yeah. Yeah. And it went really fast and that would have been my planned opener anyways okay so you're on yeah yeah yeah and it's really good so then on my second i took 446 which i had picked that because uh is about in the right range and also it would be a meat pr so i'm like if this is the only if

this is the only bench i do at least i'm getting a six pound five six pound pr out of it and i did it and it honestly moved it moved really good it was slower than my opener. And like, it just be, it wasn't a grinder, but it was just like, I had to push hard enough that as soon as I sat up, I thought, ah, my pec feels very tight from that right now. Like it didn't really hurt while I was going, but immediately when I sat up, I'm like, that's very tight. So I went over and you got to put your attempt in. And right at the time I'm thinking, I don't know what to do. So I just put my attempt in, which is what I was planning on, which was like 463 or 462, whatever the number is. Then I was warming up a little bit and talking to one big, big Nick, one of the other guys,

Nick Tadlock. He's I've lifted with him a couple other times and I had him lift off for me and stuff. And I was talking to him. He had actually was in the flight before and just went through the same thing he had a little bit of a pec injury and didn't take his third i was talking to him and you know just just prior to my third lift i'm like i feel really optimistic about my way my deadlift's gonna go if i go hurt my pec on this third one i am going to be really upset at myself yeah that is like the worst thing that right could happen yes so i had put in my attempt i went back over there and said

just scratch it i'm it was a meat pr yep i think i would have benched the 462 463 not for the injury i would have got it for sure with the injury there's still a fair chance i would have got it i think but i just i didn't think the risk to reward yeah the risk wasn't worth it at that point because i still felt pretty good so i just stopped there i think that was probably the smart move it was and you know the thing about that is that's a move that i wouldn't have probably done five years ago yeah yep and i'm in down the road most people would know that move in their first and i'm really i may be most proud of myself for doing that because that was a hard call for me to make because i really wanted to go uh get the 463 or whatever i was planning on um so then deadlifts warming up and deadlifts felt warming up felt awesome my back over the prep is just a little sore all the time like every time

i deadlift the strength felt okay but i would never felt like i could be real explosive because my back is just always a little kind of like probably what it does feel like when you're deadlifting heavy and training for a meet and like just never felt that good i'm always a little apprehensive about it um but then in the warm-up and i did see i mean you did have some good training days though like leading up to it like you were hitting big numbers so yeah it was going good and then in the with the deload i had taken and stuff and i felt just uh spectacular in the in the warm-up room i'm like uh my last warm-up i think was 585 and it felt like uh you know as close to nothing as that would feel for me. And it hadn't felt like

that in training at all. So like the, it showed me like the prep and like the stuff, especially for the deadlift really worked like how you'd want it to for like. The deload, deloading is a natural thing. Yeah, it really, really benefited me. So I took 622 that moved very fast. Then I jumped to, 6.22, that moved very fast. Then I jumped to, so then 6.22 moved so fast. You know, on squats, I talked about how I jumped it down a peg. On deadlifts, I said, oh, I've got to do more because I'm not going to, if I stick with what I'm at, I'm going to leave way too much on there.

So I took my second to 300 kilos, which is 6.61. And that's maybe about in the ballpark i thought i might go to i did that on my second and that moved good it wasn't super fast like my 622 but still moved good and then uh on my third i was kind of toying with the idea of 700 yep which you have technically done before one time before strongman though yeah and strongman but it was just an over under it wasn't with straps oh it wasn't okay no it wasn't with straps. Oh, it wasn't? No, it wasn't with straps. It was a barbell from the floor with regular plates, not kilo plates would be the difference, I guess.

And I wasn't wearing a singlet, you know, but I was wearing no equipment that would be. Masonomic singlet? Yeah, that's true. How many pounds is that? That's true. But so I, here's another thing before I lead into that, why I chose that number.

This is interesting. We make a lot of jokes about state records, which I still is a funny thing to me. But I did find out at this meet, the fans and the other people were cheering like really, because what was happening is that Al was the announcer and he was doing a really good job of getting people excited for things. Yep. So like whenever there was a state or a national record, people were like getting all really into it and stuff. And I'm like, I like sucking me and I'm like this.

I am getting hyped up for this one. Like they were doing a great job of, of, of that really. So I had broken the bench record on my opener the bench record was really probably way too low for the class so that wasn't really as big of a deal and I broke the deadlift record on my second and I hadn't didn't even know what the total record was but then I'm like oh I'm maybe I'm close to that and I had started to understand like I had picked up on like oh people are really getting into like these records so I looked at what the uh total record was and i saw if i did 689 i would get it by like three or four pounds uh-huh so that's why i picked 689 is just to set the total record because i knew

it would be good extra motivation because people were like pumped up about it and people go so i come out and he goes uh going for a tanner bear to mr massonomics going for a uh total record uh western northeast south dakota state total record and i'm like oh yeah this is cool so he's he was doing the you know working in the massonomic shtick all all uh all day too and that's why i picked that number and that was a hard lift uh also this is the first time i've done hook grip in a meet and it did uh cut open my thumb a little bit but i did i locked it out and uh that was the perfect number to call coincidentally feel like it was an issue it didn't at all i didn't notice until after i yeah walked away but i couldn't have done another deadlift after that because as soon as i walked away i'm like oh now my thumb really hurts you know i

wouldn't have been able to it makes you wonder how guys like Kayla Willem are like doing that much weight all the time I don't know that's and have hands still yeah that's a good question uh it was funny so so very few people that are hook gripped I don't know if hardly anyone else did and I thought it was more had become a lot more common and like a lot of people were asking me about it because like and it was very uncommon probably what's kind of funny is just we have a fair number of people in our gym that do it right right it caught me off guard how so many people were asking me about the hook grip you know like i'm like oh i don't know i guess i thought that's what yeah i guess now i

don't do it but i wouldn't think twice because most days when i'm in there some and the gym someone is using a hook grip. So it's like became normal to me now. Right. So I got that lift, and it gave me a total of, I think, 1,697 pounds. So it was three pounds short of 1,700. And then you can play all the like, oh, if and buts. It's like, yeah, I should have squatted a little more.

But that's complete hindsight. Yeah. Shouldn't have hurt my peck yeah if i wouldn't hurt my peck i probably would have benched 18 pounds more or whatever it was next thing you know you got an 1800 right yeah that's kind of what it is like kind of is the sport of powerlifting though it's easy to do that and that's the thing that i also is easy to forget about powerlifting for people that don't maybe powerlift in the gym but have never done a meet you kind of add't maybe power lift in the gym, but have never done a meet. You kind of add up what you do at the gym and that's your total. And the very best time, the very best scenarios on all separate days on your, on your cadences and your, yeah, it's not how it works at all. For anyone that's done a meet before you do, you max out on all three of those

in one long day, like with long breaks and you do it on their time months in advance you say yeah that's the day i'm gonna do it and then like it or not that's the day that you've got to do it yep uh so i was i was stoked that was a bigger total than what just because my deadlift so far exceeded even with my bench not quite getting to do what i want my squat just being a little lower my deadlift made up for it so it was a bigger total than I thought I was going to get ended up being a 85 pound PR total that's awesome yeah yeah they should put your face on the average to savage template for now on Tanner it's official I successfully go from average I think that that was average to savage did great when you're done did Greg Knuckles pop up from behind with the diploma and said you are now savage yeah so i i guess you can speak to the strength of that program it worked really well

um and then yeah i really liked it and stuff but i'm not gonna go do another meet like next month or something like i'm pro i want to do a another power lifting meet again like a year from now that's kind of what i would like to do i'm gonna chill it a little bit and yeah you know do some other stuff and then hopefully uh feel really good and do one again in like a year or something and hopefully do more than 1697 that'd be awesome yeah that would be like 1700 even if i did another 85 pounds again that would be spectacular that's how it goes you've said you've set the rhythm now you just know you just do that every year and 85 pounds go on every yes um it was really someone did ask what they really wanted to know what's what i ate throughout the day i don't know why you know anyone cares but um i had several gatorades they want to know if it's gatorade

or pedialyte i had several gatorades like Drink a lot of water. I like the fruit, red fruit punch, the classic Gatorade. I like the G2 or any of that stuff. No, actually normally I would drink probably a G2, but I wanted the full, uh, the full effect. I wanted the sugar, honestly, the calories and all that goodness. Didn't eat very much food the entire day. It's hard to though. I had, um, like those flat square kind bars and a peanut butter sandwich. And then otherwise I had my G2. I bought a monster earlier in the day and drank like a third of it before squat, a third of it before bench, and a third of it before deadlift.

Just straight up for the caffeine. It was an easy way for me to get caffeine. And then I couldn't sleep the night before, so I was first in line at Perkins at like 6 a.m. to eat breakfast. You had to beat the church rush, right? I couldn't sleep the night before so i was first in line at perkins at like 6 a.m you know to to eat breakfast and had to beat the church rush i couldn't sleep the night before because i was so excited then i couldn't sleep the night after because i was still too excited you know so then like i've had three days here where i've just crashed and just slept great and i uh my body i feel really good too like i that's good i just feel good to not like just limp out of a meat no

my pec is a little twinge but not more or less than it was before and now now i'm just gonna take it real easy on that stuff for a while so it'll be fine soon um the other thing i was gonna say is just the support from massonomics followers on the internet i can't believe how many um dms i got from people just the public ones that i saw i'm like damn people really do care about yeah yeah so i really appreciated that i was like well i cannot believe so many people care about this and they probably still really don't but i just did it i just did appreciate the illusion yeah i just i did appreciate all the uh no that was obvious to me yeah that was that was awesome so overall because it wasn't that long ago tanner where you and me hopped in a car to go to a meet and outside of me and you

and like three other people knowing about it, nobody knew what it was. Right. Right. Yeah. That's certainly changed. You know that there's still, there's more people there that didn't know what massonomics was than that

did, I suppose still, but just really cool seeing a lot of massonomics stuff and people that didn't even know us. And we're still wearing massonomics stuff and people that didn't even know us and we're still wearing massonomic stuff people that did know us and we're wearing it all that stuff was pretty gnarly sweet so i'm pretty high on power lifting meets again now i just i did kind of forget how fun it what could you know we're just so isolated here tanner we really we really we joke about it but we really are just shut off from the physical part of the

community yeah outside of our own gym here in town and there really is a community too you're like oh yeah this is really a really supportive group of people like everyone wants to see everyone else do well and there was a couple other just funny notes there was a two 60 year old guys competing one of them did full power he benched 474 wow squatted just a little less than me like deadlifted over 500 but he benched 474 that's 60 another 60 year old guy deadlifted 655 jeez and i'm like holy shit like getting these people from then the one other note there was a 181 pound 23 year old junior that squatted 666 pretty legit how many pounds you say 666 181 class damn pretty legit squat you know you're that's that is a very legit squat yeah yeah yeah pretty legit but that's

pretty spectacular yeah then there's some couple 500 pound benches you know seven plus squats seven plus deadlifts and i just like seeing the big you know see the big yeah it's fun to see yeah it's always fun to see big lifts that's about all i had on it it was really cool it was ran well and yeah really well i'll you weren't there from seven in the morning till 11 at night uh no no it was it was reasonable time it was much better than what we've experienced and it's like our first one or two that we ever did and uh i did get first place in my class so So I think there was three of us. All that really matters. Yes, I think there was three of us in ours. There were so many medals.

I mean, it is the meme with the medals. Like, it is that. Mathsonomics gave out $100 to the best squat and to the best female squat and the best male squat. I did like that Jake wrote, oh, we're trying to award ourselves money and you said no best squat nothing to worry about here exactly what it's when i when uh al asked what we wanted to use it for i'm like i don't know it doesn't matter to me whatever you you know you're the

boss here's the money you do what you want he's like did he say best men's heavyweight bench what about squat and that's when it hit me i'm like oh yeah that's for sure the one that there's no chance that i would have of uh of winning because I would feel like quite the two of us. No conflict of interest here. Yeah, and here's the winner, Tanner Baird. And it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. That's about all I got to say about that.

So 10 out of 10 would recommend? 10 out of 10 would recommend. 10 out of 10. And I'm a new state record holder, so I've got that on my, which is, I would say in the moment, though, it was a funny thing. Forever, right? Yeah, but state records last

a lifetime. Especially South Dakota ones. The most prestigious of state records. Next thing you know, Afroro man's gonna be writing a song about you tanner yes i'll be in that song uh shoot we about get our guest on the horn yeah i'm gonna read an ad and then we're gonna get the old phone line going excellent today's show was brought to you by spud inc and the spud inc strongman harness the spud inc strongman harness is built from the

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Hello, hello. Big Wes, you are on the Mastonomics Podcast with Tanner and Tommy. What's up, Wes? Awesome. How are you guys doing? Weastonomics Podcast with Tanner and Tommy. What's up, Wes? Awesome. How are you guys doing? We're great. We're doing really good. We're great.

We're excited to talk to you. We've got a whole bunch of questions. And just for everyone getting a peek behind the curtain, we've never talked to you before. So this is one of those interviews where it's going to be pretty honest. The blind date's in full effect right now. Yes, yes. I love it. So far, you don't seem like a total weirdo. So I think we might be okay. We've done a handful of these before where,

where, um, you know, some, uh, we've, we've talked to some cartoonists and some other people where they run pages where you really don't know much about the individual behind it. You just kind of enjoy the stuff, the content that they put out and they've all kind of panned out. So you've got a lot to live up to here. Okay. Um, well, so could you give us a, uh, you, you run snatch and snacks and could you, uh, give us the, the 10,000 foot view of, of, of what that is and what that is that you do? 10,000 foot view of what that is and what that is that you do? Yeah, sure. So, you know, I got my start as a motion graphics designer. I was still working in that industry and have been for the past like 15 or so years.

So I basically do a lot of like graphic design for TV and web and whatnot. But the animation stuff I kind of got into once I started, once I started working, but the, I don't know, I got into Olympic lifting and I guess for some reason I wanted to, you know, felt like I had a creative voice I wanted to share with the fitness world. So that's kind of how the Instagram started. And so for people that aren't aware, what would you say is kind of your signature thing or the first thing that people started – you started popping up on people's radar for? Yeah, so it was definitely the weightlifting stuff. Um, it's funny, it kind of, it kind of started as me just wanting to gain a little bit more notoriety in the weightlifting world, like on my personal like Instagram page. Um, and I don't, I can't remember why like this specific idea came up, but I thought

it would be funny to like put food on the, uh, the ends of the like barbell, like when somebody was doing like a snatch or a clean and jerk and um i thought that that would maybe like i i don't know like the the way that um like the process of like tracking it and like the technical part of it i thought would be kind of easy um so uh i don't i don't know it was like something that was easy and fun and, you know, different. And I don't know. It was just like sort of a funny thing to like put out into the weightlifting world. And things kind of just like jumped off from there. So it was like, I guess if there was like a signature thing, it would definitely be like, oh, that's the guy that puts food on the barbell. And so looking back, like, you know, we went back in your timeline and I think,

is it the very first one? What's it's the donuts on what's the guy's name? Yeah. CJ. Yeah. There you go. And so you have, you have the donuts on there and it's like, yeah, dude, that's, it's like, I remember when those first started coming out, like those were making the rounds, like you couldn't go on Instagram or even like Facebook almost, and just not run across those videos. Like those were blowing up right away. Like, is that how it actually was? Or is that just my perception of it? No, no, that's, that's pretty much it. Um, you know, those, I think I made those first four or five videos and they were on my, personal page and uh my my brother who's a

musician and he's like really good at self-marketing was just like oh you should like make this its own thing like just make it its own entity like on instagram and for me i was just like oh that's these are stupid like no one no one's gonna get it It's dumb. He's like, no, trust me. Just do it. And I remember the first day, just putting those first five videos up, everyone was like, oh my God, what is this? And so then it just kind of spun out from there. So yeah, looking at that, I mean, the videos are all really fun. We're Masonomics. We like fun stuff. And these videos are all for sure fun. And I got to imagine like they get a good reaction out of everyone that sees them and probably the people that are in them probably like it a lot too. Like

have you ever gotten like shares or comments from like people that you're like surprised, like you're getting feedback from them? Oh, oh yeah, totally. And I, and I still get, uh, feedback from people, um, where I'm just kind of like blown away. I think that the first big reaction I got from somebody was like the Piros Dimas one. He's like one of the most decorated weightlifters ever. He's the really, really small guy, right? Yeah. I mean, the you know right right right but um yeah I think he but I think the most that he did was like he liked it or something I was like oh man that's enough for me yeah for Demos to like the video like yeah that's it yeah that's awesome

do you have a favorite edit or a favorite video ever that you've put together uh like of the of the weightlifting ones or just yeah no probably of the weightlifting ones if there's one of the weightlifting ones yeah uh god that's a good question because there's i mean there's definitely a few. Probably the... I want to say the Lydia Valentin one where she kind of does the super Saiyan thing. Well, I guess she's supposed to be Captain Marvel. I don't know where that is in the feed.

You might have to scroll back a little bit but but yeah that's up there for you that one yeah that that's up there there's probably i'm probably blanking on some other ones i can't believe how i've done already but so so looking at these like from uh you know i'm in the design space and I know nothing about like motion graphics, things like that. Like it's a completely foreign concept to me. Tanner would probably say none of this makes any sense to him at all. Like looking at it, like what is your workflow? Like, I mean, are these things taking like an hour to put together? Are they nine hours to put together? Like what does a video like that take to do? Uh, so it really depends, um, on, on a few different things. Um,

it, it depends on the angle of the video. I like, as far as the weightlifting ones, it depends on the angle, uh, because there's a lot of rotoscoping involved. So honestly, that very first one with, with CJ took a lot longer than the ones that followed um i found that out pretty soon because it's like okay how do you put you know an object behind someone in space where you have yeah right right so it's not just floating over the top of them or yeah exactly exactly so you have to trace them like frame by frame, which is called rotoscoping. And, you know, there's like an automated part of that. But there is like a lot of frame by frame work that you have to do just depending on how the footage is and everything.

And, you know, in the beginning, you're only working with these little like screen recorded videos, you know, off of Instagram, which are really small. So the footage is not going to be that great anyway. Right. But, uh, but yeah, so it, you know, the, the angle obviously has a lot to do with it. Um, uh, and as far as like, as far as the rest of the time, I mean, it really just depends on the idea so you know if there's a lot of 3d involved you know i might have to like model something in 3d or like you know download a model from somewhere and you know tweak it or whatever and you know there could be some more you know animation uh added into it like i think the max lang one where he's like clean and jerking elephants you know there's like animation added to the elephants so um yeah i mean it could take anywhere from like three hours to you know 15 hours it

really just depends on on uh on all those different things the rotoscoping definitely definitely takes um you know that's like a some heavy lifting, uh, depending on the angle of it, but yeah, it's all over the place really. Okay. And yeah, those numbers sound realistic to me. So when you said like in the beginning, it was more just like Instagram videos. Like, are you saying like you're getting higher quality? Like are you getting the videos directly from people now or are you getting better quality ones? Uh, yeah, usually, um, usually if somebody wants like a commissioned video or something they'll record it uh specifically for the video uh like with their iphone or like their

you know dslr or whatever um that way i'm just working with like higher quality footage which is cool too because then you can kind of like punch in on it and like blow it up in frame and, and do all the stuff with it. So looking through the timeline, if it feels safe to say the videos have become increasingly more complex over time, especially lately, like, like they turned into like full on, like video game, Marvel movie stuff. And, and not only more complex, but the quality seems to also be significantly better too. Like, is that like, just speaking to the quality part, is that a mixture of your skills getting better and also technology getting better or what's happening

there? Uh, a little bit of both. So, um, they, they started as, you know, obviously just me, just ripping stuff off of Instagram. But then it became, I guess there's obviously definitely a couple of things. So I was working on a Mac for a long time. I had this older model Mac from 2010 or something like that. And I was actually, it was becoming such a drag that i was like turning down work because of it just because of how slow and out of date it was so uh i just made the jump to a pc where i could have a little bit more power for less money and uh which is you know

obviously something we all like um so that was that was definitely a part of it because it allowed me to like really push the 3D stuff. And just just overall like processing and just the, you know, time spent on each individual video. So that was definitely a big thing. But, yeah, I mean, the rest of it definitely was, you know, trying, you know, every, every video I'm trying something new. So, um, whether it's like learning a new technique through a tutorial or like a new, you know, um, simulation plugin for like a 3d platform or something like that. So it's, it's, it's, it's a combination of all those,

all those different things. And like, even, you know, like models are one thing and like your models all from my layman, I seem to be really, really good, but you could have a good model, but if your lighting's like really bad and artificial looking like that ruins it too. And it seems like the lighting's like really spot on a lot too. Oh yeah. I mean, um, you know, I guess from just from working with other 3d artists, I mean, I'm definitely not a trained 3d guy. I mean, I'm just like a generalist that just learned from his friends. Um, but yeah, as far as the lighting, yeah. I mean, you're, you know, if you, if you have done any sort of photography, you learn about lighting and it's no different in a 3D platform.

And so if you're, you know, if you're trying to integrate 3D stuff into a scene or like, like a gym or something like that, I mean, like the, the Matty Sdie williams video i did where they have those massive uh like competition collars on the end of the car yeah yeah so so i mean it's it's stuff like that like literally how do i recreate the environment that they're in because you know not only those things you know chrome uh you know there's like some obvious like reflection there uh you have to mimic what the lighting is as well so you know it's it's just thinking about those things uh as if you were doing an actual 3d job for sure yeah that's really cool you know what um it's obvious you don't own the rights to making a sick video edit about weightlifting, but I'm wondering if after you, you became popular and people still really started

to take onto this, have you noticed anyone kind of rip off your idea? Like, has there been other, I don't know of any, but I'm sure you're aware if there is, has, is anyone else? Yeah, I've, yeah, I've been, uh, I've, I've seen a couple, a couple of people do it and actually the, the people that have done it always say like, this was inspired by Snatch and Snacks, which is, you know, I'm obviously not expecting that, but it's, it's pretty cool. I think early on, uh,

there was this guy that he was like dead lifting or something. And he had like a character from super Mario or something. But the, this guy, this guy actually made me step my game up because he was a video game designer and his 3d work was just solid. Like I'll have to try and find, find that video. And hopefully if he's, if he's listening uh to this he can oh we're sure he is

but uh but um yeah i mean watching it i was like wow the texturing of it and the lighting this looks so realistic and yeah but but, but again, that was just, that was the limitation of the computer that I was working on at the time. I just didn't have the, you know, I didn't have the plugin or the renderer that let me use like a good graphics card. I didn't even have a good graphics card. So, you know, it's just, it's little things like that that definitely add up. For sure. And what's that? So it looks like you have like a

motion capture suit or something that you you use is that is that what that is oh yeah yeah so there's a there's a company called rococo and they have this uh i guess like consumer friendly uh motion capture suit and they just came out with gloves that fit it as well. So you have like motion capture information from the hands as well. And I'm doing like sort of a partial like partnership with them. I'm just like creating some content for their, um, for their page throughout the year. But, um, but yeah, so that I've been, been using that as well. That's, that's been like kind of a learning curve, but it's been really awesome. So do you, I mean, can you throw the suit on and like kind of go through your motions and it's going to capture your model, like doing exactly what you want?

Is that, is that what's going on? Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's, uh, it's built off of, um, I think it works off of your wifi signal. Um, and it's like i think it's really sensitive to uh magnets or something like that so it's it's there's some limitations on like where you can use it but and for the for the most part though like the the uh the capture on it is pretty great um there's obviously some like upper level uh suits that you know they're using in hollywood but for you know for just a a home use uh motion capture suit it's awesome are you uh we saw somewhere maybe iowa are you a fellow midwesterner uh i'm in north carolina actually okay okay so is that where you're from originally then

yeah yeah okay what's your favorite kind of barbecue sauce we were just talking about carolina barbecue sauces dude uh this is gonna be blasphemy i have never been into uh north carolina barbecue what why not i just i just have never got busy editing videos. Um, I, I don't know. I just never got into the, like the barbecue scene.

Like, yeah, I just never got into it. I'm, I'm more into like Texas barbecue and I don't know. I'm a brisket guy. I've just never been like, yeah. Yeah. How about you? about you you got your start instagram is what popularized first i sure i see you're on tiktok now um what do you see future wise what's is tiktok

awesome an awesome platform for you how do you look at it um tiktok is cool uh i think it uh there's definitely potential for me to put more stuff related to tiktok uh obviously on there as opposed to like there's definitely some things i would put on tiktok that i would not put on my instagram if that makes sense like probably you know dance dance trends where I'm using the motion capture suit or something. I don't know. I think I think there's potential there. But I've already made such a name in the Instagram world that a lot like I'm already getting some work through that. And it's it's just, it comes down to a time thing. It's just find time to create, you know, original content is, is difficult when

there's like a, uh, that that's like the, the biggest thing that I struggle with is, you know, the, um, you know, the split between, uh, you know, reaching that level of polish that I already have and trying to make things quickly. It's one of the struggles I'm trying to get through. Maybe more pulled pork

would help. Maybe that's what I'm missing. Editing fuel. Yeah. Yes. Well, Tommy, you were talking about some of his other work that you had seen oh yeah okay yes i was curious so i i did i did hop on your website and i did see um what was it about 2010 you you had worked on some of those ford commercials that had the uh the heavy use of typography in them oh yeah yeah yeah dude for me like that's when i was like just getting done with with design school and i remember at the time being like ford's killing it like they're the they're the only car company they're almost one

of the only brands that's like going to do a commercial that's like making cool use of type and doing all this stuff i thought it was oh my such a cool commercial at the time wow so to see that yeah to see that in your portfolio, I was like, damn, that's really cool. Like he was involved in that in some way. Oh, that, that, so that was our, uh, I worked at this place called offspring and, uh, that, that was like my first staff job. And, uh, yeah, we were, we were the studio that did that entire campaign. And as far as car commercials go, even today, that's still kind of an out there car commercial. Oh yeah.

I mean, I think Dennis Leary still does the narration for it. Like, I mean, going on like 11 years strong, he's still like, he's still narrating all those commercials. And like the vernacular of that stuff has changed a little bit, but I mean they they like continued to come back uh for more stuff i mean obviously agencies will have to you know revamp a little bit and then you know re-approach it so they obviously went with like another studio afterwards but um but yeah it was pretty awesome to be to be a part of that it's

really funny because after we did that we just became known as like the type studio and when i think back like to me that was such a huge trend for a while there's like this whole like moving type that's dropping in and animating. It seemed like so many companies started doing it for a little while there. Oh yeah. I think, uh, I think what happened was, um,

stranger than you remember stranger than fiction. The movie was, yeah. Like the, uh, do you remember that the opening title sequence? It's been a long time. Yeah.

So, so that, that, uh, there's a studio called mk12 that did that that did that uh title sequence but it was like right when that came out every studio wanted this like kinetic type like or type integrated into footage sort of thing and i mean that yeah that around that time that that was like a huge trend and you would just see it everywhere. Um, but that was like the, that was the, the big, the big sell for that, uh, for that,

that campaign. Yeah. That's really cool. I just looking through your portfolio. I mean, there was a, there's obviously a lot of impressive stuff in there, but that is the one that I feel like I had a personal connection to. Yeah. That's so crazy.

You were in, you were in school when that when that came is it fair to assume that you still drive around a ford f-150 then which i did like for the for the amount of time like i i was gonna say that was like with the exception of last year that was definitely the craziest job i've ever done in my career and and at the end we were all kind of like i mean i think there were days where we slept in the studio um trying to like knock stuff out and and it was weird because our we were we had just moved into a new a new space and we didn't have enough uh we didn't have enough machines for everybody. I had to go, like, so I was living in New York at the time, and I had to go, like, up to Hell's Kitchen to work in another studio.

Like, it was just, like, it was such a mess. So by the end of that job, we were like, I mean, shit, man, we should be getting trucks. Roll them out in Ford. Dennis Leary there. Just thinking about the the carolinas there like you got to get over with like juji mufu and get some some video yourself and do an edit with him like he seems like he would be all over that yeah uh i don't i don't know you guys are probably familiar with mash elite yeah yeah matt travis uh put on puts on this event.

Well, I don't know when the last time. It's been a while. But the MASH Strength Spectacular, it was all like weightlifting and powerlifting and strongman and all that stuff. And Juju came out. And, I mean, he had already been, like, super big on YouTube by this point. So he had his, like like camera guy with him and, and all that. But,

he was doing all the strong man stuff and, uh, like we got a picture together and he's like super cool dude. It was so funny because he would just do a backflip on command. Like somebody that wanted, like, he's like, Hey man,

can I get a picture? Hey, can you do a backflip? Oh, cool. Kind of tired. Yeah. 30th backflip i just pulled a truck like 100 yards yeah absolutely uh do we want to do overrated underrated i think so okay uh we've got this little game we like to play with every guest west Wes. It's overrated, underrated. We've got a special set of Big Wes Snatchin' Snacks set of topics handpicked for you.

You can elaborate as much or as little as you want to on each one. The important thing is to remember that you cannot ride the line. You have to decide if each one is either overrated or underrated. Are you ready to play? I'm the most indecisive person ever. Well, today's, today's different. It is different. Um, oh, that, the other thing I was just thinking before I forget to ask you, you had mentioned

you're into weightlifting, Olympic weightlifting. Do you, do you still participate in that? You still train that way? I was just curious. Yeah. Yeah. We both do powerlifting, so cleaning and jerking and snatching is a little bit

out of our comfort zone, but we're familiar. Awesome. I can sort of travel over to the deadlifting every now and then. Yeah, yeah. Okay, overrated or underrated? Pixar.

Oh, God. I love that. I can't say underrated because they're not underrated. It's tricky saying overrated, though, because... You know what? I should talk. It's you going, I don't know why I'm talking. It's you. No, it's all right.

Um, God sucks because I, on paper for me, I have to say overrated because I don't take the time to watch any of them. That's fair. Yeah. You gave yourself easy out there. Yeah. Like I'm sure. And I, and I know that they're going to be awesome when I watch them, but I don't know.

All right. Overrated. That's fair. Okay. Underrated or overrated cold brew coffee uh i gotta go underrated i'm i'm a i'm a huge cold brew nerd do you have a like do you do you make your own or you i may i may i make my own so what's your what's your, what's your process? Uh, so I have a, like an almond milk bag and I'll grind up, uh, like 12 ounces. Uh, throw that in there with, let's see, some people, uh, you're supposed to, what are you

supposed to do? Like a, a one to four or one to five ratio. do like a a one to four or one to five ratio so let's see we got 12 ounces of uh grounds to what is that three ounces or or is it the other way around oh 60 60 ounces we'll just say one to five the 60 ounces of water uh you put it mix everything up in the bag uh you're leaving it in like a toddy or like a crock jar or something and like put the cover on it um and then just put it in the fridge for 24 hours and boom there you go that's it i gotta i gotta get i love cold brew but i never make my own i gotta get on that oh man it's it's for me it's the easiest and then like on days when

i just want hot coffee um i'll just mix in whatever i usually like cut the cold brew concentrate with like i'll do like a third cup of concentrate with some like a little bit of almond milk and some water and i'll heat that up and it tastes like hot chocolate it's awesome that's good okay overrated or underrated owen wilson and you know where this you know do you i assume you're probably familiar where we're getting this reference from yeah yeah i'm like crying crying inside i mean because because you got to think, you got to go through like the deep parts of Wedding Crashers and really like take all that in. I know, I know. But the parts that, I never laugh at Owen Wilson's stuff.

He got us overrated. Okay. Like the Steffi Cohen deadlift Owen wilson video like what was the inspiration for that like what was uh did that just hit you and you're like yeah that'd be funny i think uh for for whatever reason i was like the owen wilson wow thing is so relevant right it's like that's still a thing right oh i'll just use that and it just took off that's one of thing, right? Oh, I'll just use that. And it just took off. That's one of the ones that really sticks out to me.

Cause it's such a random concept, like, but it works so well. Yeah. I tried to, I tried to do something similar with, um, with Nicholas cage and it just didn't take off the the way that i thought it would um i was just trying to do the same thing as as the owen wilson one but you you can't beat it that one had already dude that one was weird because somebody made a gif of it on reddit and it like blew up and but there was like no sound with it it was funny because you kind of didn't need the sound. Yeah. Just know that's the noise he makes.

Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Okay. Last topic of overrated, underrated, overrated or underrated frosted donuts. Frosted donuts i mean i'm the one that always goes for the frosted ones so i'm gonna say underrated yeah do you eat them or just like to utilize them on the ends of barbells i know i got i gotta eat them like if there's like a chocolate frosted donut i'm going for

that one before it before the others for sure yeah okay all right i think that's you good news you passed overrated underrated we can air this episode i guess yes yes you pass success uh no that's that's great um the other thing i was going to check i assume uh we're going to get the friends and family discount on that massonomics video commission. It's going to be like similar to kind of like the last 30 minutes of like Marvel Endgame. So it should take very long. Yeah, it's really good notes. I'll do it. I'll be the light grip

the best we kind of want to pitch you this we have been working on some Star Wars fan fiction with some offshoots so we think we have some pretty unique twists on the series so we'll also run those by you too okay

it's going to be Mando part run those by you too okay it's gonna be yeah mando mando part uh yeah yes well that's awesome wes we appreciate uh you coming on and that was fun uh i was excited about this and i feel like i understand a lot more about snatch and snacks now awesome yeah man thank you guys so much for having me this is awesome. Where, where do people, uh, find you, get ahold of you, you know, if they got a video idea that they want to hire you for, how to, what's the process for that sort of thing? Uh, yeah. So you can either, uh, DM me on, uh, my Instagram, like on through snacks and snacks or,

um, my email is Wes Richardson at Gmail. And that's all. That's also on my, on my Instagram. Boom. Awesome. Well, that's good stuff.

You the man. Hey, thank you guys. Thanks a lot. Wes. It was fun. All right. Take care.

Yup. See ya. Bye. What do you give them? Has he ever thought about him cool beans cool beans cool beans really makes sense though for Wes since he's a cold brew guy it does he likes those cold beans

that would be funny who are the actors in the cool beans Andy Sandberg Andy Sandberg on the end of a bar cool beans you could pick a lot of different ones there. There's a lot to work with there. Cool beans. That was cool beans. That was.

That was different than our typical interview we've had for a while. That was fun to find out about something a little different. Learn something a little outside the direct world of strength. Right, right. But still parallel to the world. Very parallel. That was good stuff. You could say precisely parallel. Precisely parallel. Exactly parallel. that was you could say precisely parallel precisely exactly parallel

non-perpendicular no perpendiculars here yes okay well that was good what do we have anything else that we had to cover today tommy um well we had a drop last uh we didn't have a drop didn't we we sold out of the uh bacon and beer bells jonathan old ham limited people like their limited edition flags flew off the shelves, didn't they? Things went faster than we would have ever guessed. Faster than a speeding bullet. Faster than Jonathan speeding through the air. Then we had the Varsity T, the Grassonomics T, and the 8-Bit Party Time T.

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