Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 279: Derek Thistlethwaite

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

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And their chemistry with each other is so good, too. The handoff is perfect. It is perfect. Welcome to episode 279 of the Massanomics podcast, a special one, of course, because my high school football number was 79. So anything that ends in 79 is... Oh, I thought it was going to be 279. Now that would be a weird high school football number.

But speaking of other things from 15 years ago in the past, no, I don't have a lead into that. I was really curious where that was going. Now, we're back for episode 279, the Massonomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. Tommy, it's the first weekend of August in South Dakota,

and do you know what that means? Well, probably something corn-related something corn related ah no I'll give you a hint oh is Sturgis this week or next week I think it starts this weekend oh I always think it's more like I think yeah you'd say it's next week I think yeah I think it I think yeah we should read an ad quick before we get carried away on this. Yeah, and do you like history also? History? Are you a history buff? Love it.

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And that's this history lesson on the Masquerade Podcast. That was really good. Yeah. So Sturgis, I think we've talked about this before, Tanner. You are a Sturgis rally veteran, aren't you? veteran aren't you veteran i went uh i think i went five years in a row oh you did that many oh i rode my bike five years in a row i did two years of the camping in a tent at the chip either i was at broken spoke and then a lesser uh iron horse oh okay is out that direction as well it's like

north of town a little bit as well so i've stayed at both of oh and i've also i've stayed that's i've stayed in belfouche before um which is outside of sturgis it's much more fun to stay for me to stay at places a little bit outside of sturgis because we can sleep in a bed camping in the campgrounds during the rally is like yes you better love to party really hard yeah i haven't i haven't been in i've never got to do that so i don't i would never do it again like i would go to sturgis again but i would never go like camping in a tent at uh i i've only been my experience i've only been there once and it was like four three years ago and we went like

the last day of it okay did you go to a concert or anything um i mean my parent my dad used to go like every year and so my parents were out there and like come on out and like we had actually just gotten married i think the weekend before yep and uh we went out and it just so happened that um the band cky was playing which i was a huge fan of that band okay growing up as a as a kid so i got to catch uh cky which was really cool because i wasn't planning on that at all but um yeah that was not not a crazy sturgis story at all yeah yeah yeah uh sturgis is a lot so i rode my motorcycle all those years that i went and the thing about it is it's dangerous oh my god yes lots of people die every year oh yeah like they're on the way there and they all the local papers publish the death daily death count like the running total of how many which is going to happen anytime you put hundreds of thousands of people to an event right people just naturally especially

when the point of the event is like literally to be driving around motorized vehicles you know it is i mean it's it's um you know now i have a family and a bunch of kids and stuff i think more about that than i did when prior to that where i'm like because there's some stuff like where you're in there with a lot of motorcycles and going really fast. And the Black Hills, there's some hairpin turns. Besides being windy roads,

there's mountain goats, there's falling rocks, there's other things happening. And it's part of why it's there. It is awesome riding motorcycle in the Black Hills, but it's more fun to go not during the rally to me than it is during the rally. You can actually like look around and take you there. Yeah, there's two things you do there, really.

You either ride your motorcycle a whole bunch or you get drunk constantly. I mean, those are the two things I would expect. If not a combination of those, but usually from my experience, people fall much more into one of those camps. You know, not as many of them are like 50-50 guys. It's like most people usually came to do one thing right right ride my motorcycle or get drunk and i'm all out of gas the sturgis bike rally is a funny phenomenon it's almost something like two experience if you haven't before yeah it

is funny though that we're in south dakota and it's like oh yeah that's still like six hours away from us like it's not it's not down the road by any means but we're far or we are close enough though that like as it's coming like you start to see motorcycles like i have a hotel just across the street from me like pretty soon there will be a lot of motorcycles yep yep because this is on the road there it is it's on the road to the road to sturgis it's got that for sure i think kid rocks there this year there's always like every year i feel like again you know like the kind of usually the ones you expect to be there are usually there it's got that for sure. I think Kid Rock's there this year. He's there like every year, I feel like. There's always REO Speedwagon, you know, like the,

kind of usually the ones you expect to be there are usually there. Yeah. You know, like. Yeah, that's usually how it is. I don't know.

I think like, I don't know if they're there, but like Five Finger Death Punch probably plays there every year. Yeah. I think last year they had Smash Mouth too. That's funny. You know,

just to like mix it up, I guess. I do like, that's kind of funny. That was our Sturgis update though. Sturgis, okay. Yeah, we'll keep, there's probably more news coming out.

So we'll keep people tuned in for that. Tanner, have you been keeping up on the Olympics lately? I saw the medal count recently is the most I kept up. Oh, I haven't seen that even. US was on top of the medal count, but China had more gold medals. Do they?

Yeah. Do you even know what the medal, like how many did many did they have it was i don't know if we had like 70 okay some and they had like 70 some yeah and like gold medals we had like 25 and they had like 31 you know so we had more silvers and bronzes maybe but you said the track and field events are coming so ah true you know what is shocking to my wife and I watching it? How many Olympians are from Minnesota? We're here in South Dakota. It's like, it's just a little bit over. But somehow there's something different in the water that your chances of becoming an Olympian go up exponentially.

Just living a hundred and some miles to the east. They do have the bigger population. It is a significant. I mean, that is a huge part of your but your opportunities in life right right it's like oh i i mean genetically are you all just that much better over there it seems to be the case it's the nordic uh i guess swedish or viking genes i guess that they have their scandinavian and that's probably that's better yeah scan the scandinavian genes that they have there. Must be. Are you Scandinavian?

I don't really know. Yeah. I haven't done my 23 and me. I'm out of the loop. Yeah. Have you ever done one of those Tanner? No, I, but I have had my dad do it before.

Yeah. Like, I think maybe we bought one for my mom too. And at that point I'm like, well, don't I know it all? If I just look at those two, it kind of seems like,

you know, like what are you catching there? I mean, if something's different, like, then you have a bigger problem on your hands mom and dad what happened here yeah so then i guess yeah you probably know your story i feel like i would actually learn something in mind because everyone seems to be like oh i get like this runaround answer for what my heritage may be or may not be but people will uh like if you and i walked into uh whatever they would say oh are you guys like around here they'd be like oh you guys must be uh scandinavian you know like probably when you have like when you're taller in stature have long hair

and maybe a beard or some combination like that people People just kind of think like, or this pasty pale skin of mine. Well, you kind of have the blonde hair too. Yeah. I got that. That goes for it too. Yeah. Uh,

what about the power lifting news gossip that I had? Do we, Ooh, you did have some juicy gossip Tanner. Or did we want to have a refreshing beverage before we got to the, any of the juicy gossip? Let's do, let's do one,

one thing of gossip and then we'll split it. Okay. a we'll split the we don't want to get too much gossip yeah uh it's the tea i guess is what kids would say right it's we have the tea oh you don't know about that no yeah you share the tea it's the dish the gossip the tea yeah i've never heard this yeah yeah new is this new slang that i'm I think it's maybe relatively new, but not super new. Yeah, you're definitely not with it. I'm clearly not. That's what you share the tea. Okay.

Yeah, and I don't know what the origins of that phrase. And I don't know if it's like tea or tea. Like dishing me up a cup of hot tea. Well, I think that's maybe where it stems from is actually you're sitting around having tea like gossiping. Well, serve it up hot, Tanner. Okay, so the tea is this guy, Nabil. And I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. He's a French power lifter.

Okay, I'm following so far. This isn't super new news at this point. This has been around for a little while. But it's just funny. It's worth talking about. He calls himself, you could look him up on Instagram. If you just look up Nabil, I think he even calls himself the Phenom or something like that in his name. Nabil, French Phenom.

He competes in the 66-kilogram weight class. Okay. That's 145 pounds it says here. I think he's pretty strong. I think he's got a pretty big deadlift. For his weight, I think he's got a pretty, pretty big deadlift if it was because I think it was depth I think it was a depth issue so he retook the weight on a second I believe and also got red lights I don't know if he didn't get the left or it was a depth issue on his third one he took the same

weight again I could probably find the video on here he really like I mean he just ekes it out like I mean he like absolute grinder absolute 10 out of 10 grinder that he gets so he's taking like the weight three times over and he just gets it on his uh like barely stays in the meat yep and he like as he's he's all jacked up and as he's racking it he go he screams to the like very loud he's like i'm a fucking phenom and to me the funny part is it's because like you just missed that wait twice and then you barely got your opening weight on the third one and he um he got like discounted from the meet. I think it was USPA

or I might be wrong on the Federation. Someone can correct me on that. I think it's USPA is from my guess, but because he screamed that, they like disqualified him. That's not cool with us. He was DQ'd because of that. Wow.

And like that was interesting that he got disqualified for doing that and also that he did that like that he got that hyped for it well and just like yelling i am like a phenom like that's a pretty um usually when you're the phenom you don't tell people yeah right right it goes without saying yes and like to say it in that circumstance where it's like i barely got my opener i'm a phenom shows on yeah okay well so there was a big deal about that and i just it was funny to me yeah i'm glad you brought me up to speed on that too i was i was clearly out of the loop so now you know about nabil the french phenom now i know. Tanner, should we bang? Ooh. Do you know what I'm getting at here?

A Ricky Martin song. She bangs and she bangs. She moves like a... I need you to put your blindfold on, though, Tanner. I gave away too much already, man. Okay, yeah, that's true. I probably would have guessed that much based on last week's episode. Or would you have, though? Oh, that's true.

When you're tasting purple kittles. What's in the bang? What's in the bang? All right. All right, I've donned my... We're going full on. What's in the can? Tanner does have a slight clue.

He knows that this is a bang. But is it a bang seltzer or a bang energy drink? It's in the tall it's very cold i hope it's not purple kittles uh hard seltzer very flavorful again i will give it that i'll tell you already it tastes better than the purple kittles it's much more palatable yeah Yeah, it's... No doubt about that. It's just less... It's not as sweet as the Purple Kittles.

I would guess this is the hard seltzer again. It's going to be my guess. It's the bang hard seltzer. And the flavor, boy. And you know, Purple Kitt kiddos last time someone pointed out they're like you know you kind of got it right because i was saying like just like some super sugary candy flavor yeah yeah actually yeah that you did guess it about as good as you could um this one's not near sweet still very sweet especially compared to like your average

sparkling water but the flavor here um i'm not gonna say cherry coke that's that's a good good process of elimination i would say something fruity i don't even know it's so it's so over like i mean bang are they gonna have something that's not fruity though tanner that's true um peach i'm saying peach peach well tanner it is strawberry blast okay so probably not peach and let me let me my first taste i'm like yep this is strawberry and then i kind of don't really have it anymore i don't know i can't find it like i just find this is just a peach there no i don't know i peach was i really don't peach was like a i was just kind of pulling that out of thin air but i really now after taking several sips i'm just like i don't know this is like it's hard this is

a bang drink they're so and and is this a hard seltzer this is way better than the purple kills god yeah strawberry blast like i could when the point of something is to literally taste like sugar candy yeah you know it's gonna be you know last time talking about how you could get someone could get like dangerously drunk off of these now this one you could really get dangerous because you could actually stomach to drink yeah like i still don't think anything compares to the time we had the michelob seltzers and you didn't you didn't know there was alcohol yeah yeah and i'm like what yeah those ones i think do still take the cake for the the smoothest but this still has a certain it's still really like like they just have too much flavor like if that

is you know i would agree it's just like but the flavor like doesn't even turn into like it's just there's too much here whatever it is right right absolutely um so i think this one's better though i think i maybe said that if i said the other one was two this one's like a half star a half jd power and associates yeah i still don't know if this is a three and a half for me so i'll say like the last one was like a strong two or this one's a week three yeah this one's but i'm still keeping it at a three yeah this one's a week three to me because i think i said two and a half on the purple kittles where i think about that could just be a that's probably more of a two to me and this is a two and a half god did i really i think i might have said that no i think i said that one was two and a half okay there's no way i thought

you said three did i you might have said because i couldn't finish that thing like three is below three and a half so you know it doesn't mean well i should have in in retrospect given it a two and a half because this is this is a very firm three right yeah yeah yeah um so yeah that was definitely two and a half yes okay all right tanner you got more to catch me up on yeah there was some more uhlifting news gossip. So this is on Derek. What's Derek on Instagram? If you follow powerlifting Instagram, you've certainly seen him talking and talking about stuff the last few weeks or months.

It's deathgrip.derek is his handle. And Derek's last name, I haven't heard it pronounced it's this slith weight I guess is how I would say it this slith weight see I don't I don't know how you say it either I don't know I don't like I could be mixing some letters up in there but to me it says weight at the end and the first part is thistle but there's an extra th it's like this will wait so i don't yeah i don't know that is a very hard last name to i've never heard anyone say anything say it so i really just don't know we're probably the first people to not know how though i'm guessing yeah so anyways derrick has kind of blown up, I suppose, on Instagram recently

because I wasn't really aware of him until recently, but he seems to be very, very opinionated. Also, he's very strong. Also, he looks like he could have maybe been in the band Motorhead. Yes, he's got long hair, and he's got the trucker mustache, right? The long trucker mustache. Like it's thick and long. If you're into trucker mustaches, it would be what you would aspire to.

That is the pinnacle, I think. Yes, he's got a very distinct look going on. But he is the number two total all-time in 242 weight class in reps which that's what surprised me is yeah damn i guess i'm very strong i'm clearly not paying enough attention to things he's very very strong and i think he's pretty young he's in his early i think he's still a junior lifter i don't know if he's like 21 or 22 wow yeah he's very young very strong and also just very opinionated so the biggest thing that he's been uh talking about or people have been talking about him talking about is the breath belt which is uh

i don't know what joe sullivan's exact affiliation with is if it's because he's over the company when we interviewed him yeah like he was just kind of like like he had just started using it or whatever and now i think he either works for the company or as a part owner i don't really know and also joe is a friend of the podcast and yeah has always been a good supporter of ours but um still this is worth worth worth noting and we're probably pretty unbiased when it comes to all this uh um anyways these derek's just been going on about the breath belt and how it's like a piece of shit. It's not good for anything. It's way overpriced and all this.

And I really don't know. It does seem to be pretty expensive. I would say that about the breath belt. I didn't know that. I think you said it was like 200 bucks. I was not aware of that. I think it's close to that. And maybe that's an exaggeration.

I think that's like something I heard him or someone else say, and that was probably an exaggeration. So let's assume it's over 100. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they might be rounding up to the nearest like 90 plus. And I mean, we know expensive stuff. That's weird. No stranger to that.

Okay, 160. Okay, 160. So it's pretty expensive. Yeah. I mean, a lot of leather belts don't cost that much but as far as its efficacy i'm not exactly sure what it's supposed to do and we've never had it so we can't say for sure it's just and i've been one to buy some halfway gimmicky things just to try and be like maybe we have a gym full of very expensive yeah exactly i mean 160 is like nothing

in the scheme of things yes very true so i don't. I'm not, I think it's just fun, just interesting. And then he, because he was ragging on it so hard, he was scheduled to lift in the showdown meet that we'll be at here in Kansas City. And they kicked him out of the meet, I guess not allowing him to compete at it because of this breath belt stuff. This is my, the little bit I know,

my understanding of it, that they're kicking him out because of what he was saying about the breath belt stuff i but this is my what i the little bit i know my understanding of it that they're kicking him out because of what he was saying about the breath belt and that maybe joe sullivan is a sponsor of the thing and he wanted him to get kicked out i don't really know the details but it's also interesting that he did apparently get kicked out of the meet for yeah he's pretty rude like he's very rude and stuff but i'm like being outspoken yeah i'm like i don't know it's kind of i think you can do that but also i guess they can kick him out too you know like i yeah it's just it's just a weird it's like yeah i think you can but also like it's like a privately run exactly people can do whatever they want to it's just an interesting move to

me to like be like yeah you can't come here well you typically don't see that no right right that's not a common thing for people to get kicked out beforehand oh and to me if i would almost be thinking yeah let's bring them here there seems to be some controversy there's some hype around this that's what powerlifting needs a little bit right like i'm not saying like we want a bunch of bad stuff because there could be something well and it'd be way different if he was going on racist rants and things like that. That's a whole different thing. Yeah, and from what I know, he wasn't really doing stuff like that. I don't know, maybe there's another argument for that.

But from what I understand, he wasn't maybe crossing any of those kind of lines, at least. So there is some interesting drama there i suppose if nothing else wow so we'll probably have to have him on the podcast at some point in time to get his full take because why wouldn't we i i think we should it's uh it's worth looking into uh you did bring up one other thing too tanner with the showdown meet um we're gonna go to it yep and the other day i said oh when are we going to that i know when you want to find something out you go to it. And the other day I said, oh, when are we going to that? I know. When you want to find something out, you go to their website.

I'm excited to go to the show. I mean, it's going to be a ton of fun. I think it's going to be great meat, but there's one fatal flaw in their website. No dates. And I'm not talking, I don't think I'm being overcritical here. There's no goddamn dates for that fucking event.

I think if you go to their page, like it's not in the bio or anything. That's like the rule of any event in the world. If you're having an event, whether it's a birthday party, or a wedding, or a weightlifting event, or a powerlifting event,

or a strongman event, just put the date on there like a lot. Like a lot, a lot, a lot. Right. And don't make it confusing. And last time I looked, it wasn't on there. I couldn't. And if it was, it wasn't on there. I couldn't.

And if it was, it wasn't obvious that I could find it. And that should be rule number one. It has to be so obvious that if I'm interested in going to this event, I know when it is. No doubt. And the only way I found it was to go on Instagram. Wasn't in the bio. Wasn't in like anything else.

I had to go back like 40 posts to find it. Yeah, that's not preferable. So I'm excited to go there, but just a heads up, more people would probably go if they knew what day it was. So if someone can get on that, I think that's a win-win. I'm not trying to be over the critical. I think that's a win for everyone is if that date becomes more easily. If that date.

And let's see. Maybe I'm complaining for nothing. Showdown meet 2021. Well, the WRPF has it on their website, but that's not the official. The official website is the showdownpowerlifting.com. Okay. And on here, 2021. Get ready to witness history.

Buy tickets. I know it's in 51 days, 11 hours, 59 minutes, and 9 seconds, but I don't know when 51 days is without getting on my calendar and counting to 51. Little tip. Yeah. Okay. I think we missed it.

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So it sounds like they got a few courses out there and a few more coming. It sounds like class is in few courses out there and a few more coming it sounds like classes it is session classes in session uh visit them at hybridperformancemethod.com and remember to use that discount code mass tanner you know they said um there's a line in there that says so you don't have to and whenever i hear that all it makes me think of is the joe dirt movie when he's like he goes oh did you use the little scrubbing bubbles he's like oh those little scrubbing bubbles and scrub the toilet so you don't have to no no i didn't use those and that's all i think of when i hear that my whole life since i've been in like third grade that's all

i thought of is how joe dirt talks i guess it's always good to relate it back to joe dirt tommy do you think we should get our guests on the horn i don't think we should wait any longer okay let's do it. You get the point. Hello? Hey, is this Big Derek? Yeah, I mean, I'm not that big, but sure, this is Derek. Everyone on the Mastodonics podcast is big.

Oh, okay. I'll take that. I don't see that when I look in the mirror, but you know. That title comes with the show. Oh, okay. I'll take that. I don't see that when I look in the mirror. That title comes with the show. Oh, okay. I'll take it. No, we're excited to have you on with I'm Tanner and then Tommy's over here too. What's up, Derek? What's going on, Tommy and Tanner?

I listen to y'all's podcasts at work all the time. I was excited whenever y'all reached out to me. Yeah, we talked to you a little bit last week about getting you on here. And then we were just recording an episode tonight. And we were kind of earlier in this episode, even we were talking about some of the stuff going on with you.

And we were just thinking, you know, we should get him on right now to talk about instead of us speculating. Why don't we just call him right now and get him on the show? I mean, that works. why don't we just call him right now and get him on the show? I mean, that works. I mean, it's like the most unreliable source. That's a first-person source would be me. That's how I would describe myself.

Well, we're the most unreliable third-person source, so this is working out really good. So one thing I was going to say, how do you pronounce your last name? Thistlewaite. Okay, Thistlewaite. Okay. We were maybeistlewaite. Okay. We were maybe kind of close then before. Kind of.

We're in the right ballpark. It's hard to read, but it's pretty easy to pronounce. Yeah, yeah. Okay. We're on the right page. So it's Derek Thistlewaite, and it's what, Deathgrip Derek on Instagram? Yeah. That's your handle? Okay, so you've been blowing up lately, right?

It seems like kind of seeing you all over instagram and everything and uh your follower count's probably been going up quite a bit uh how long has that been going on i mean it seems like fairly recently that i noticed it seems to be going wild well um it's it will for a while was happening in like bursts because uh i don't know if y'all know the two buff for this Ashton Bailey. He makes, you know, those videos like his reaction videos. He made a couple of those. So he posted me one time like saying, like, oh, this guy is only 21.

It was me squatting something heavy. And I got like 2000 followers and I went from like 4000 to 6000. And like how long ago is this? This is like a month ago, probably. Yeah,000 to 6,000. And like how long ago is this? This is like a month ago probably. Yeah, around right after Nationals. So maybe close to two now because I competed June 6th. So this was probably mid-June. So six weeks ago, five weeks ago.

And then he did it again. And then I started making more of the memes and things like that. And then whenever I went after Joe Sullivan was whenever it really blew up. And that was, what, two weeks ago now? All these days are a blur. When you're making memes, time just flies, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I get so lost in talking shit, I don't even know what's going on in my real world anymore.

How long ago was it that you put up the, your big total, you know, your best total that's got you number two in the two 42. Almost two months, June six. Okay. Cause I,

I guess just to be honest, I really didn't know about it until like this other shit all came around. And then I'm, I don't know. Nothing. I've made no followers from actually like doing well zero zero recognition for that part welcome to powerlifting right like i didn't get reposted on king of the lifts or anything like i had the it had like barely a thousand likes why anywhere where was the meat at that you put? And where was the meat and what was your total?

So it was in San Antonio, Texas, USPA Nationals. And it was 2232. 2232. So it's USPA Nationals. I mean, it's kind of like. Is it like the top secret meat? Yeah, right, right. You know, that is funny, though.

Like, I just anecdotally, I didn't know much about you until after the other stuff came up. Then after looking, it's like, oh, wait a second. There's something going on here. This dude is one of the strongest guys in the world right now, too. Yeah, I know. It's ridiculous.

Fucking ridiculous. Yeah, nobody cares about that part of it, though. I think even after that like uh it was like a week after nationals i put a post on my story and i was like it's absolutely ridiculous but no one has asked me to come on their podcast yet no one said anything the blatant cry for help no one noticed okay really i'm just talking to myself over here yeah um and then so you i guess what uh what really sparked it you mentioned is the breath belt thing or the joe sullivan thing or the showdown meet thing so just walk us through

whatever version of that you want to like explain what was going on for anyone that's listening that doesn't know about it all right so basically i i don't remember what it was exactly it started it someone someone sent me like somewhere in beth right now what do you think about the breath belt i've you know i've seen it for a year now i didn't care about it until i went and looked at the price and it was like 160 and i am so goddamn cheap i i'm so cheap that it made me angry thinking that other people have spent that much money i got angry for other people um so then i like got on my story and i did a rant about um like the breath bell and it didn't really go anywhere like no one really said anything it didn't happen until i actually made the post and that was like two weeks before i made the first post that was joe like not being able to decide between

which button and buttons were uh sell out produce a belt or produce more quality content and um so then that gained quite a bit of traction because I guess other people didn't like this belt either. Then after that, Joe was real businesslike, respectful in the comments, offered me one. I didn't want it. Then we got into it. What was it? Underneath that squat university post because I just kind of followed Joe. That's the best place to get in an argument on squat university comments.

Right? Yeah. So I just kind of like follow Joe around and comment section. I don't know. It's fun. And, um, and then,

uh, what happened? They went to my sponsor or Brandy did his girlfriend went to my sponsors and um was like hey he's making the brand look bad um and one of my sponsors like i don't give a fuck the other one um asked me to stop but i was like no i don't really want to this is way too much fun yeah so then i made a meme about her you know she was like um stop you're hurting joe's feelings and it was me just saying fuck breath belt and that blew up even more and then i started talking shit to her because i found out that i was ranked higher than her and i'm gonna throw that around

any time i'm given like the opportunity um and then fuck let me even look at my instagram page there might be one i'm forgetting I don't remember but I'm pretty I think that was like the last of it and then I made a shirt that says fuck breath belt on it and that is actually like

$20 and I make no money off of it and anyone who supports my cause should buy one I don't, I don't gain anything. It's just for the, the great of the world. Yeah,

that was, that was it on that. And then the, the director of the meet, like the next day after I posted the one about Brandy, he reached out and he was like, Hey man, this is getting too silly for my meat.

Yeah. They got to cut it out or like you're uninvited and all right look i'm be completely honest with uh everyone here haven't said this yet i mean everyone who knows me knows i wasn't even gonna do the fucking meat i got with a new coach so it makes it so foolish wasn't even gonna do the meat uh-huh uh got with a new coach and he was like dude what are you doing you've been competing back to back like you need an off season um so i wasn't gonna do it we're already looking at like december january time period so he sent me that so i was like oh fuck it i'm gonna blow this up like why not it's like it seems like a fun time i got nothing else

to do today i think it was a wednesday i don't work on wednesday so i had all day to sit around and talk shit um and uh yeah so i made that video you know talking about how it was un-american and it's not so then that blew up even more like that that was what really blew up and then after that i mean it just kept growing exponentially. I've made a couple more memes. And I started getting on that Nabil kid, the French phenom, because I made a post about him on TikTok and Instagram. I made it on TikTok. So I posted it there. But I'm not really on TikTok. And then he started talking shit to me.

Like, tell me, like, you know, pretty much that, like, he was the only one doing this. He was better than me. He's a really good kid good kid by the way he has since humbled a lot it is uh you know not acting like that so respect to him okay but yeah so like pretty much he took his third third squat at his meet as an opener and then called himself a fucking phenom and then kicked him out of the meet and then he missed uh the pool to break the all-time world record that he was like telling me he was gonna do and he was the only one doing it in that comment section um like before it happened so i was like no you can't do that you can't be like no i do this whenever it's like no we're powerlifters you don't get to say that till you put on the platform that's a that's a platform thing to talk about so then i i clowned

on him a little bit um and that was pretty much it for the memes because i was on a a deload week i had a lot of time on my hands now i'm actually back to working out yeah it's pretty much how it goes if i got a deload week i'm gonna live it up yeah yeah make the most of it i guess i would say this you know i probably understand joe's probably like oh god damn it i'm fucking sick of this like i can get while he's probably like god damn it like i don't want to deal with this fucking guy anymore like why am i getting tagged a thousand times a day and all of this i'm sure he's frustrated with it, and I get it. Oh, yeah, I do too.

Joe and Brianni have both been on there. They both have been great to us and stuff. But I am – so I get why he's probably frustrated. But also, like, I don't know if you're doing anything wrong. You know, like I'm not sure about that. I have no actual problem with joe solvin i just think it's really fun and he reacted i mean they're like if you go look at my story right now there's like 15 people right now that's all people do is send me like names i just talk shit

joe is like the only person who responded so of course i was gonna keep going right uh but the the part that's is kind of a little surprising to me is that they would actually tell you you're you can't compete in that meet though over it like that's the one part like i get him being like like if he i don't even know what he was saying in return but i get it if he's like ah fuck this guy like quit listening to you know whatever he would say like i could that's probably all seems justifiable, but it's surprising to me that they would tell you you can't compete at the showdown meet. Yeah, that was weird.

But I didn't really care. I don't know. It seemed like, like I said, it was soft. It was like, what's wrong with it? It's called showdown. What is a showdown? Well, a little controversy probably would isn't the reason for power honestly it was probably gonna make it like the most exciting

meet like with hype going into it in a while yeah exactly so i really didn't understand that um and then like joe is a sponsor i have no idea if that's actually like a factor in it but like his adapter dye brand sponsors the meat and um like whenever i found that out at the time i was a little bit more man fuck that but you know now i'm like i have no idea if that was part of it but i mean i think it was a bad move it's like why why why kick me out of the meet i'm not like not not saying i'm gonna go kick joe's ass like let's just right let's just go compete at the meet called showdown seems reasonable like a fair place to do it

so if has this like if you had the option to do the showdown next year would you do it uh that's completely dependent on like what i want to do because the reason i dropped out of the showdown was because i got with um i got with josh bryan jill how strong yeah and i was talking to him and i was like like yeah um i'm signed up for the showdown meet but i mean i haven't really had an off season like over a year um and he was like what why are you doing the showdown i was like i don't know it was a big meet he was like do you want the all-time world record total and raw and i was like no not really he was like then why are you risking injury i was like i guess that's true he was like do you think you're gonna win and i was like no probably not he was like what he's like what are you doing

i was like you know you make some really good points it's like you know i don't really have much business doing this meet but if, you know what? You make some really good points there, Josh. Take a step back all of a sudden. I was like, you know, I don't really have much business doing this meet. But if I, you know, with that being said, if I were to do what I want to do at this next meet or one after that, then sure. Like if I take the number one spot wraps, then I want to go raw. But as of now, the picture is on the big fish which to me is yuri belkin um i'd really i'd really like to actually like make him compete again instead of just hiding over there in russia sitting on his you know throne of 130 pound total bigger than mine making me feel bad about myself what what's your timeline on that then do you think like do you

think your next meet if if you put together the right uh do you have a shot at it or do you think it'll take it'll take a little longer what what's your feeling on that that man that's all dependent on bench okay being complete my my hope and uh i you know i trust josh bryant he's got a small army of 600 pound benchers that's true um true. So this is how I look at it. Uri's best total was 914, 518, 924. I definitely think that I could have squatted 900-plus. I had a bad meet prep, and I had to take my second twice on squats because I got called for depth but I was looking for a 903 that meat um I think I I think I could have had it you know who knows

but if I get into like you know 915 um and then bench into the 500s and then uh you know I think I could within you know it'll be eight months whenever I probably compete. I think that's enough time to take my deadlift from, um, you know, at eight 80 to nine, 10, nine 15 ish. So I think I'll be pretty close, but it's all on that bench because bench was 474. That's a, that's a 25 pound gap, just the 500. And I still got to go 518 to tie him so uh and bench seems to be the slowest one like looking back over my last two meets um i put about uh about 10 pounds on my bench every six months is the trend and um i think josh is probably a better bench coach than my last coach. Uh, just cause that's kind of what he does. But I don't think it's super reasonable to put 50 pounds on my bench in six months.

I don't, I don't think that's going to happen. It's going to need some of that jailhouse strong magic. Yeah. I mean, 50 pounds in six months is a fucking lot on a bench on my squat. I could see it. I think I can put 50 pounds on my squat but not my bench so it'll be dependent on that honestly i'd i think i'd get close i'd really like to beat it but in reality i don't think my bench is going to progress that fast i really don't just because

of how slow it's been in the past with that attitude yeah well i'm just being realistic with my bench 940 i don't need the bench if i can squat 940 pull 930 but you know that's something no one else has ever done so the big interesting to see the big thing that's on your side though is are you still just 21 are you 22 now or what's what do you know i'm i a 21. The meat that I'm currently eyeballing the most is, um, on my birthday, the day I'll turn 22, which would be, um, record breakers by eight men. So the thing that's on your side here is that you're 21 years old. Like, I mean, um, time it's easy to probably lose sight of that for some people because I don't know, my guess, my,

my take on it is that you don't necessarily come across as what I would consider your average 21 year old in many in many ways so uh it's like man you could have a crazy 10 years of uh progress honestly so well if you just keep progressing your bench would you say 10 pounds every six months yeah that's only 200 pounds in the next 10 years you know I think that's how it works you'll be in that 600 club too yeah well and and then i mean i'd honestly rather go up to the 275s i'm i'm six foot so i think i'm too tall for 242s in my opinion i mean yuri belkin is like what like five eight dudes that's for sure what what do you what do you think of guys uh you know kind of purposely trying to stay little to stay in smaller weight classes oh that's disgusting what's wrong with you

why would you not want to be bigger that's like that's that's my life goal the bigger i get the smaller i look in the mirror so forever i can't imagine not trying to be bigger the first day you picked up a weight is when you became forever small oh yeah that's how that works for sure i i remember whenever i was actually big like five years ago whenever i weighed like 180 pounds yeah those were good old days but you really how long have you been quote unquote power lifting oh um i got with my first coach um may 8th of 2020 and then a month later i did my first meet so so very recently we're just over a year in is what you're saying yeah like it was it was a year to the day that i did um nationals and took 22 32 so my first meet was june was june 6th of 2020 the big techs open i went 1854 and i raw and pulled conventional and then uh a year later it was 22

32 and in in between in december was the depth for dishonor open at 2136. Damn. So it, yeah, well, I mean, your trend has been like 400 pounds in a year. So I guess just keep that up. That's the, that's the,

that's the hope, man. I'm really hoping I can figure out this deadlift. It's so fucking ugly. Have y'all seen my deadlift? I get, it looks really good like it looks really good until it looks really bad yeah you're like it just gets caught at my knees and i start twerking

all over the place and it looks super sketchy i'd really like to fix that well that probably happens at night close to 900 pounds yeah i just you know what i mean well the thing is it's not a it's not a weight issue it's a balance thing like every time i go above like 8 8 50 i just feel like i'm about to fall like backwards and i i think i figured it out it turns out you're not supposed to start with the bar against your shins but it's kind of hard to tell whenever you're not doing it with 800 pounds, you know, it's kind of hard to test things whenever it's like 60%. Yeah.

Well, it's a really weird thing though, too. Like you're going, pushing for a world record. You're in second, going for first and you've been powerlifting for a year. Like you've only like how many dead,

like how many deadlifts have you pulled in one year? I, you know, I'm not asking for the real answer, but like my point is is a lot of people... I actually have a count. I counted. I went back and counted.

After Nationals, I had pulled sumo. I didn't pull sumo my first year. I switched in July. I went back and I counted, and I had had 29 sessions pulling sumo. Like in your life, That basically pretty much. Yeah. And four of them were max effort attempts.

Yeah. Yeah. That's just like in the scheme of things, zero reps. Right. Right. It is crazy to think about that. I have so many sessions trying to even figure out if I should even do sumo.

I think. Yeah, exactly. Well, it makes sense. Cause I get absolutely sick after even do sumo I think yeah exactly well it makes sense because I get absolutely sick after I pull sumo like I pull sumo I feel like I have the flu I can pull you know heavy conventional pull heavy I mean a squat heavy I feel fine but I pull heavy sumo and I feel sick and I think it's just because my body is not used to. It's like, why are you lifting that much weight like that? It feels horrible. Yeah, that's a weird one.

Derek, we've got this game we play with everyone. We call it Overrated and Underrated. And we've got a special, Derek, this will wait, series of topics that are handpicked for you. And I have no doubt you don't have a problem coming up with an opinion. No, I don't have an opinion. You just have to remember you can't ride the line. You can't say anything's appropriately, appropriately rated. You got to decide either overrated or underrated.

So if you're ready to rock, we'll bust it out. All right, let's go. All right. Overrated or underrated belt buckles. Belt buckles. Belt buckles? Yep.

Underrated. I haven't worn a pair of pants that fit my waist in like three years. Everything is like five inches too big on my waist. They're underrated. I see people that tuck their shirts in without a belt and a belt buckle, and those people don't deserve to like live in society so do you ever wear a belt without the belt buckle or do you always have the belt buckle you know the oh no i always got a belt buckle on i was given this as a birthday

present it's actually the only belt i own because like i said i'm really cheap and why would i buy a second one i already got one that's fair yeah that's good you're so you're out of houston right yeah i'm a yeah i'm out of houston well that's kind of a texas thing i think yeah yeah go big or go home i have a big old belt buckle overrated or underrated the belt uh the breath belt absolutely overrated but the thing is like i had people sending me um and i'll give it its due i had people sending me pictures of people in the olympics wearing it and it makes sense it makes sense to wear something like that um doing a non like powerlifting sport like you know if you're like i think a shot put throw was wearing

it makes sense you don't need a leather like pioneer belt sbd belt endser belt you don't need that to do that i mean um but the price is definitely overrated but i mean i i think the the breath belt is a great thing for people who aren't powerlifting and um you know it uh are beginners but i don't like how it's priced so that's why it's overrated i think that's a good analysis yeah i mean that's pretty like fair on your side right i think so all right overrated or underrated mustaches wow underrated oh my god yeah amount of prime mustache you know whenever you see a guy and they have like the the full stubble and um but they have like zero upper lip like none like you know it's like it's like a good inch and a half of just like

like nose to like mouth gap yep that's prime mustache real estate and i see way too many people scared to have that mustache and it i don't know why so like it makes me so mad they labeled it as a pedo stash it's because of what what was it the fucking um what was uh the grateful bones what is it called you know the guy made that little like playhouse underneath the earth and killed the girl what was that movie I'm pretty sure it was that was it the Lovely Bones or

the Lovely Bones there we go I never saw it but yeah I guess I don't classify yours as a pedo mustache there's like too much mustache there to even fall into that category well yeah i know but like most but you can't start with this you got to grow into it and most guys are scared to do it because that asshole went and ruined starter mustaches so like yeah you've

probably i mean by the looks of it you've been growing you've been able to grow a thick mustache for a while i would guess yeah mustache and goatee i've been able to grow that since like i was like 15 years old my cheeks are very thin and look really shitty so i just don't i don't even try to grow them out i just act like i have great facial hair but i only have like the mustache yeah well you're pulling it off oh yeah i got everyone fooled i i'm trying to picture i might have to pull up a picture, but I recently went, I went like eight months without trimming any of my facial hair, including my mustache. So my mustache, you know, my top mustache,

if I would like pull it down, hung way beyond my mouth, like completely. Oh, yeah. And it made some eating and drinking almost impossible after a while, like where I'm like i was like battling you know you can't like take a drink and not be kind of covered with it out of like a glass oh yeah do you do you run into quite a bit of that oh yeah all the time and then like you're you're like eating something and you're like you get mustache yeah yeah you have to like push your mustache out of your mouth like a cheeseburger like that's the opinion yeah

i always struggled with like a cheeseburger yeah something circular so like it's not like a straight bite like shove the whole thing to your to the edges of your mouth yeah yeah yeah and because i shaved after uh the death before dishonor me december and i kissed my fiance and i was like wow i can feel both lips. That's crazy. That feels different. Because I had never kissed her without having a mustache on. All about those new sensations.

Yeah, I know. Whole duration was mustached. So was she a fan then? Oh, she likes my mustache. She prefers me to be mustached. Okay. Because she's a good woman. Respectable.

Yeah, respectable. Overrated or underrated Yuri Belkin? Oh, underrated. Oh, it makes me so mad. John Hack is not the GOAT. He's amazing. But it also makes me mad whenever someone's just a big bencher because I'm not. So I'm kind of a hater.

I'll admit it. I'm a hater. It makes me mad. It makes me mad. You's just a big bencher because i'm not so like i'm kind of a hater i'll admit i'm a hater i it makes me mad it makes me mad you're such a big bench but like why are people acting like yuri belkin isn't number one all time and the only reason he's not like active is just because he has no reason to be like he's so far ahead like it he's he's what he's like until chad pinson did the kern he was like 40 points ahead of anyone uh dots and i think like the next guy was retired it was a here so he had no reason i mean like it yeah it's like it's fun to lift really heavy, but it hurts. It feels bad. He's done it so many times.

He's been competing for so long that he's not going to go in total 2,400 pounds unless he has to because it's a risk. If he goes and does that, he's risking a big injury. And if I was in his position, I wouldn't really go after a big total until someone made me. He's definitely underrated, but it makes me mad that everyone's been calling John Hack the GOAT. Also, it would make me mad whenever everyone... I didn't think that Dan Bell got his credit

that he deserved. I think there's a fair case for that. The biggest total of all time. Isn't that kind of deserving of the GOAT conversation? Yeah, absolutely. Definitely Dan Bell

and Uri Belkin, in my opinion. I have a ton of respect for John Hacker. I am a hater. I really get the case for like, especially Dan, because I, I mean, the sport is kind of lifting as much as possible, like getting the biggest total possible. And he did do, you know, he has done that.

So I can wrap my head around that. Yeah. I didn't like how, whenever, you know, it was a current in the hybrid showdown that like, I honestly felt like John Hack was the huge talk whenever Dan was doing something that, to me, was way more impressive. Because if you take John's

bench away, I don't know. It's just because I'm not impressed by bench. Bench makes me mad, not impressed. I see big benches and I don't care they make me angry and i think like to me i think what most people and this is just this is just my dumb theory but i think people see what john's doing and even though it makes no sense it's more relatable because it's like well that guy's my size and like because most people know someone that's around 200 pounds or most people that lift are close to 200 ish.

But then like you get to Dan, that's like just this monster and like everything just doesn't make sense anymore. And that's, I guess that's my dumb theory for why maybe John gets more eyes on that. Well, but I mean, look at every like really big name in the, like, you know, in the world, I mean, in the fitness world, they're big benchers and it's not really because of power lifters it's because the outsiders looking in they don't love big squats because they don't do squats yeah it doesn't make sense they they hate they hate squats they hate deadlifts but they love i mean look at larry wheels people absolutely love larry wheels

is he the biggest deadlifter or squatter no but he's got a huge bench and people love that shit people people that don't like really power lift but you know are the majority of like fans and followers like bench and the physique thing for sure yeah that's part of it oh yeah i mean where mary is ridiculous that dude looks insane. He's looked insane for a long time. Even whenever he was like a 308, he was ridiculous. Yep, that is true. Always has been.

So we know you're pretty price sensitive about the breath. Oh, also I guess we should tell you good news. You passed overrated underrated. You did pass. So good. Congratulations. You did. You did pass. So congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. But we know you are kind of a price sensitive shopper.

You know, you weigh the prices weighed in before you make a purchase. Self-proclaimed cheap. Yeah. So we just kind of wondered your take. We've come under scrutiny before because of the price of our Lyft shorts. And just wondered your take on that, if you have any opinions. See, man, I'm going to be completely honest with you, man. You know how I go around and call myself a taxpaying, law-abiding citizen?

It's not true. I have stolen so many pairs of shorts. It's unreal so no i would never get caught dead by your absolutely not uh no yeah they're not for cheap people anyway i'm not paying 30 for sure well that's the sale price. Yeah, I know. $100? Well, we wouldn't have expected you to say anything different than that, so that's alright. I mean, I'll wear them if you like to.

But I'm sure it's shit not paying for them. Absolutely not. Awesome. Well, Derek, that kind of wraps it up and we're glad we got to talk to you um let everyone know where they find you and anything that you got going on any any i don't know anything you want people to check out go ahead and give it a shot well you can find me at death grip dot derrick on instagram um got a website going called derrickprobably.com, and it just sells lots of things that are built entirely different.

I've got the Get Built Different program. I've got the Fuck Breath Belt t-shirt, which everyone needs to wear. I'm really upset. You know how many goddamn people told me, oh, you should make this shirt. I'd totally buy it. That's the story of our life. That's rule number one of internet merchandising.

Everyone says, make this, I'll buy it. We were the story of our life. That's rule number one of internet merchandising. Everyone says, make this, I'll buy it. We were just having that conversation and then you're lucky if a third of those people that literally say, make this exact thing and I'll buy it. They're lying. At least half the time, that's not true. Yeah.

They don't buy shit. Please go buy this shirt. I make no money but like i i think it's really funny and like i i live to amuse myself so help me amuse myself um that's about it i don't got much else going on other than that no that's awesome i think this was a good podcast probably probably probably that's the live on-air review right there probably all right man that was we appreciate it thanks that's good stuff thanks a lot derrick all right we'll catch you later see ya

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Like live follow-up? We did have some slight change of plans in there. Yeah, in case you're wondering, like, wow, those guys are really bad at planning out their episodes. Several of the things they talked about happened twice. There was a bit of a... We're planning Derek for an upcoming week and had some changes,

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He's always been fun. He has been fun. He's always got a smile on his face. We'll get Ray on sometime. We'll have to make sure we got him on our list tommy we had to drop this last week didn't we yeah we did we did have to drop this last week what did we drop on everyone we dropped the pin-up t power hungry t two hats yeah the varsity banners comics hats the christy boy 2.0 banner the curls banner damn two hats two banners two t's two two two two it's just like noah's ark

they came in twos didn't they tommy yeah we brought two of everything we had uh-huh so now they can be fruitful and multiply we also did it for religious reasons too we haven't if we haven't mentioned that to you we've touched on politics, but now we are going to be very religious. And not only just to ourselves, we're going to be evangelical about it. Yeah, we have been in the process of turning Masonomics into a religion so that people can get married in the name of Masonomics. It almost is a religion, though. It sort of is.

It almost is. Not far from it. It's a way of life. it's definitely got that going for it yeah um but yeah the drop was good drop was good uh a lot of we got a lot of compliments i like the new teas i really like the pinup tea i think that's a really uh that was that was probably my favorite from the drop yeah i really like the pinup tea yeah i think it's a really cool shirt and it was on a red but it was a different red than what we've had in the past that is true it's a heathered canvas red to be particular to to really dial it in heather canvas red is that color um it is a

cool cool tee and the new hats we were we were due for new hats of course no one can buy them but we we did come with new yes please do not buy the not buy the hats. There really is not many hats left. If you're hearing this, there might not be any left. They did go surprisingly fast, actually. Even with us telling people not to buy them, they still went surprisingly fast. It's all those lawbreakers out there. Yes.

Should we hear from another sponsor? I think we should. Maybe two or three more. We can just do them all again read them all uh no we're gonna give fusion sports performance supplements it's it's due here i think fusion sp um i was thinking tommy do you know what's in your supplements i do oh it sounds like you're a man that uses fusion Sports Performance supplements. I have Fusion in my supplements. Ah, yes.

That's because Fusion SP prides itself on being fully transparent, never using proprietary blends, and always providing its customers with top quality products. They offer two pre-workout options. You've got the Super Soldier pre-workout and the Mad Titan High Stim. Big Merit, the owner, had mentioned they're making a slight change to the Super Soldier pre-workout formulation, an oh um that's coming in the pipeline so stay on the lookout for that it's just when you think it couldn't get any better bam improvement even higher bam it's better even

more super soldier um i don't know if he's gonna if they should make a chocolate of some sort pre-workout flavor. Why can protein be chocolate, but pre-workout can't be? But pre-workout could only be fruit and fruity flavors? Why? That is a good question. Is there any rich-flavored pre-workouts? And why can't there be? Maybe there's something with the actual chemistry of the ingredients. Is there, or did they just think like,

hey, people aren't usually mixing their pre-workout with milk, so we don't need any flavors that complement milk. Maybe that's what it is. You just got to the bottom of it. I liked it better when it was more of this open-ended thing. But it still kind of is. No one's done that yet, really. But not everyone uses milk with protein powder.

No, I know. Not everyone does, but a lot of people do. Right. Whereas you could say the opposite. Not... But chocolate protein still can work with water. Why couldn't chocolate...

I know. I'm not arguing with you, Tanner. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of surprised. It might exist out there. I want a chocolatey flavor. Chocolate of some sort. I just want...

Or I just... We just demand answers um because that i mean fusion sports performance supplements does have chocolate chocolate flavor of ejaculoid oh that would be interesting to try i'm getting tired of just the regular old ejaculoid just the regular flavor is doing it for me anymore um because that's definitely pina colada flavor isn't it yes penis a lot uh back on fusion sp they also another good thing about them is they uh ship almost all of their orders within one business day and every fusion sports performance product comes fully backed with a 30-day money money back guarantee so i

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You know what they call that? Neighbors helping neighbors. That is right. And from one of the weirdest places of South Dakota, not to single them out because if I say the place, I mean there's only so many people, but Summit, South Dakota. Not one of the weirdest places. No, but I mean like weather from just a weather perspective.

Yeah, it's the Bermuda Triangle. Yeah, this place is a complete anomaly when it comes to weather. I just meant specifically to the weather. I have to go through there on my way home. It's just down the road from my house and it's 20 miles away, and it could be like zero degrees and a full-on blizzard.

Down the hill? Down the hill to my house. It could be like 45 degrees and a perfectly sunny, shiny day. Elevation? It has to be. I don't know how it could be. It has to be an elevation thing. It is weird how it's always different there.

But yeah, South Dakota person becoming a supporting member, so that's really cool to see. We've got a few of those now. You don't have to be from South Dakota to support, though. You could be from anywhere. I mean, you have to be from the world. You could be from North Dakota. You could be from Minnesota.

You could be from Nebraska. Iowa. Yeah, Iowa. Montana. You could be from Montana. You could be from Alaska. Wyoming would be okay, too. No, yeah, you could be from Wyoming. That's a good point. You could be from Texas. You could be from Alaska. Wyoming would be okay, too. No, yeah, you could be from Wyoming.

That's a good point. You could be from Texas. You could be from New York City. You could be a city slicker. Rhode Island. You could be a Florida man from Florida. Oh, yes, those ones in the top corner that we don't, you can't really pinpoint which are which.

All those other ones that are really tiny over there. You could be from our neighbors to the south. You could be from Canada and become a supporting member. We will take any type of money. Yes. It doesn't have to be U.S. dollars. You can be from any place. Somehow the internet does that thing for us.

It'll do the conversion for you. The internet does that. Do the conversion so you don't have to. Wild, wacky, inflatable tube man. Be a supporting member. Tommy, where do they find you? You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner underscore Baird,

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