Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 292: Brandon Allen

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

Big Brandon Allen joins us this week to talk about his crazy journey from powerlifting to arm wrestling. We also talked to him about owning gyms, podcasting, and edibles. We released the new Drink Spotter on this episode and announced the winners of the Massenomics Meme Contest! The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ Hybrid Performance Method: https://www.hybridperformancemethod.com/ MASS to save 5% on all training & nutrition Fusion Sports Performance: https://www.fusionsp.net/ MASS to save 20% on all FSP supplements Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! website everything massonomics welcome back everyone for episode 292 of the massonomics podcast we are the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from western northeast south dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy you know, Tommy, I was listening to 50% Facts earlier this week, and they had a good shout-out to Masonomics on there about how they, Jim mentioned how we do a pretty good job introing our podcast.

You know how we, sometimes when you podcast, it's really easy just to, like, not do that stuff. Yeah, I wonder sometimes, sometimes too if some people hit record and go for a while and then later on decide where the actual intro is, you know? I think you're right. And some people probably like it better

to not do that. Maybe it feels more like just a conversation if you're just, you turn it on and like, oh, these two guys are just chit-chatting. Yeah, and as soon as it starts getting good, that's when we'll actually use it. I can see how people might think that.

I always like, I always think about how it's somebody's first time listening. Well, it's, it's something that someone is right. It is someone's first time. Right. And they got to get greeted in.

That's right. They'd be like, who are these guys? Before this party takes off, they got to know where they're going. Well, they're like, where are the timestamps at?

Let me get to the guest. Why did these guys talk for 35 minutes beforehand? timestamps. The damn timest time stamps it's funny if you just google like some of our episodes and stuff there's some something automatically generates like some time stamps oh really yeah i don't i don't understand at least unless you're secretly doing it no in my back but youtube knows that kind of too i don't know maybe it's when people put chapters in on YouTube, but it happens a surprising amount when I'm just Googling like how to do whatever. Like a computer program, like something computer related.

And all right, it has this big video and all right, three minutes and 24 seconds, it starts me. I never even thought about that until right now. Why does it, does it, is there a chapter there? Or does it just know that that's what's being discussed at that point? It's a good question. There's no way of knowing. We'll never you know what i do know what uh hybrid performance method is great they're so great they're a sponsor of the massonomics podcast hybrid performance method is your solution to strength they have no bs training nutrition and

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Yeah. No, you're in the wrong place. Right. But we do have cool stuff. We have the results of our Mastodonics Mean Contest for last week. I think a lot of people on the Discord are tuned in

to find out more about that. I don't know if we've officially disclosed whether we're going to announce those while they're still listening here today or not. They'll have to find out. We're still teasing that they...

Yeah, we might talk about it for 30 minutes, hit the switch on them, and then continue the conversation. But they'll have to find out there's we're still teasing that they we're yeah we might talk about it for 30 minutes hit the switch on them and then continue the conversation but they'll have to they'll have to stay tuned to figure out we have our brand new product that we're going to discuss on this episode that uh as we're recording it comes out tomorrow as most of you are listening it's already been released and you probably are well aware of it at this time yeah we got to talk about that um we're going to talk about power lifting on ellen which is what we do kind of weekly it's just we talk about ellen every week it's just this this happens coincidentally like oh sweet it's power lifting this week on ellen's yeah that we do ellen i actually for some reason in my mind thought ellen was done with her show i don't know why do you remember the ellen degenera show not like in the 90s yeah like the sitcom i i

i would have been like eight so i wouldn't have watched i watched i remember oh i don't remember ever watching i just knew it was a thing i don't remember ever watching it yeah i wasn't as cultured as you i guess yeah i remember watching it but now i'm wondering i i'm not positive i think the show was a thing and she was popular for that before she came out maybe i'm wrong though i can't remember that part of it you're saying she was popular before the show no that you know that she came out as a lesbian i think like the show had already oh you know well did she come out on the show was that part of the thing yeah that's okay that's what I'm kind of thinking. Yeah.

And I'm having a hard time remembering that. I don't know. It could be either way. 90s were a crazy time. There's a lot going on. You know, Woodstock 99, all that stuff. I just can't keep it all straight. Ellen's, you know, as far as those people,

some of those daytime talk show host people are kind of a joke, I think, right? Like they're almost like, ah, this is killing airtime. You know, say then on the other end of the spectrum, there's Oprah, who's like mega ultra famous. Oh, okay. You know, you have your people that are like awful. Yeah, we just have to have something on TV right now. Then you have Oprah, who's the other end of the spectrum, who is like people wish she would run for president.

And it's like whatever she says is gospel. Ellen has moved pretty close to oprah hasn't she like she isn't she far pretty far that way like but she kind of took that hit last year where everyone was saying how she was like the worst boss the worst person oh i didn't know that yeah there was a big people loved her so i didn't know there was a big reversal and i think that's why i thought she was done because there was this big thing of everyone saying she was the worst person they've ever worked with like everyone that worked on her show like and everyone i think hated her for like her some of her dumb bits that she does where she repeatedly tries to like scare and torture people okay and they're like oh she's getting way too much pleasure out of this um but yeah there was this whole thing for a while where they were saying ellen is actually

a terrible person deep down oh interesting but that. But that's how little I follow Ellen. I just kind of knew that from the outside, and that was it. Hollywood, am I right? Hollywood. What are we going to do, a can? Or what do we feel in the can? Well, okay. Yeah, we should do a can.

But we've got something important for the can, so do we need to talk about something else before we talk about the can i have one little thing um last week i had hair follow-up oh yeah much it was just saying i only had a day i thought it was nice yeah um i do have to follow up one more time with my hair follow-up from big d she provided hair products for me after like four days of using it i i i think it's a very nice product. Thank you, D. But what was funny was I Sunday went to the grocery store. Someone commented on your hair?

Two people at the grocery store commented on my hair. They're like, do you use curl relaxer? That has been a long time since I had two people just randomly compliment my hair. And maybe it's because I was freshly cleaned and showered yeah but I was kind of shocked so I gotta think that the product has something to do with it oh I don't know why it wouldn't you know what just struck me we talked all that about Ellen when he never talked about the thing that I was thinking we would talk about oh why were we talking oh I just know why were we talking about Ellen I think because I mean the power lifting yeah uh because what we should mention that so i think it's tamera do you say yeah we didn't actually talk about the thing about ellen we got distracted okay yeah i think it's tamera

walcott or i think that's how you pronounce her first name i don't actually know we got to watch her at the showdown uh meet this year a lot of weight at the all all time heaviest deadlift by a woman ever 635, whatever it was pounds. Anyway, she was on Ellen and she did a couple of deadlifts. I think her heaviest she did on there was five 85, a six plate deadlift, uh, on Ellen. Then they, she interviewed her and stuff, of course, which that's pretty cool. You know, as far as the world of powerlifting, like it doesn't get bigger than that. Right. prior to that the biggest thing that i think of is like them showing a ray williams squat on sports center for 20 seconds basically or like uh when powerlifting was maybe on tv a few times for a few things but like this is a bigger deal than any of that like that had to have exposed more

people to powerlifting inda was on ellen one time okay was she okay do her little pull-up thing that she does which isn't directly powerlifting related either but right they had to have exposed more people to powerlifting. I think Marissa Indo was on Ellen one time, too. Okay, was she? She got to do her little pull-up thing that she does, which isn't directly powerlifting related either. Right. They had to have talked about powerlifting, I would assume. But pretty cool. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, that is solid exposure. So look out for us trying to get her on the Massanomics podcast

because that's kind of, you know how people do their tours. They've got to get on Leno. I mean, this is the 90s, I guess. They got to get on Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon, the Jimmy circuit. The Jimmys. And then Ellen.

Conan O'Brien. David Letterman. Jay Leno. Johnny Carson. Whatever happened to that? Gianni Carsonon they hit up all the greats uh i'm thinking jay leno that was a that's i think that's what johnny carson did like uh yeah it's uh he's wears like the swami hat yeah it was the great something yeah yeah we're a little too far removed we're a couple generations i don't think it was ever on when we were live was it i don't think so i don't know what year they he

turned it over but uh if it was we would have been like wait we would have been too young to get the jokes or understand english yeah yes uh what are we talking about oh i had one other thing to tell you i was so sick this weekend i've never always a good time i've never puked so much in my life as this weekend it hit me out of was it worse than that night before the power it was 10 times worse than that i was that was pretty hurt i that was pretty traumatizing i think there was one time like three or four years ago where i got sick and we might've talked about it on the podcast and that was really bad, but this was really, I've never gotten up like seven times over the course of a night just to puke. It was just when your body gets covered in

sweat and you just think there's nothing left, there's nothing left here and you're still puking. And I got to the point of even dry heaving. I've never got to the point of dry heaving puking because there was just nothing left i didn't know i had that in me and it happened and it was terrible it was the worst thing ever so decent time overall like seven out of ten would recommend i guess what i'm saying is i'm here you guys i'm here so you got nothing to worry about how do you feel now pretty decent i feel pretty good i went to the gym must have been fairly short-lived then overall it was it was in and out of my system whatever literally in i mean the worst of it was in a 24-hour span but 48 hours out i was feeling a little better and i think i'm good

now i went to the gym today i took it easy just because i don't know what i've been through it sucks to go who knows what's gonna come out any of these whole orifices and it was a pretty good workout so i think maybe i am on the up and up here all right that's a good sign so i just thought people should know if they were that they should be maybe you have been worried about me but now i'm recovering okay there's nothing to worry about was this was the hair compliments before or after the sickness it was so the sickness hit friday night which really sucks that's a terrible way to start your insert your weekend i went to the i got my hair compliments on Sunday. Oh, well that's X.

That really means something then. Cause I was short just right after being, you know, I probably was 10 pounds lighter than what I normally was. I probably like a skeleton pale and white, but my hair looked great. Yeah. That's,

that's a good, really. I mean, I think that says even more for the hair products. Or maybe I just looked so bad that my hair, your hair looked better than normal. Speaking of hair, beard watch 2021. i'm one week into no did you go to no shave november is that why that's what it is yeah no shave november was there a big office pool yeah yeah yeah is that a thing like

people what's what do you do and then is what are you are you giving money to a good cause or something i think yeah i think that's kind of how it's supposed to go right yeah yep that's what i'm doing and it's gonna go you didn't say how many novembers it'll go though right i'd like to make i think uh one year would be a really long time to not do not do anything that's a very i think i met the at my longest where i got uh the best and that this includes not trimming the mustache which that's that's the hardest part not to do for people i think i think i made it like eight months in that long stretch there so yeah a year would be quite the i mean you i don't know how people get things to their mouth at a certain point yeah i don't either uh in case people are looking for worthy causes uh big david did say you can sponsor him for no not november so

i'm sure sure that is a really good cause that he is uh yeah uh going for there but should we get to this can tanner yeah uh do we need to get to this before the well yeah we should okay so we have something to put okay and so because this is big news this is very big news it's hard to gloss over this, although this does have a pretty shiny finish to it. It's very shiny. If you're watching on the YouTube channel, you know, actually, you might be thinking,

what the hell is that? The light hits us just right here, and it can be, I don't know how any of this shows up. So what are you holding there, Tommy? This is the masonomics drink spotter and this is the world's only three by three rack drink holder right yes it's the world's nicest cup holder is what this is and it's made for uh power racks it fits specifically on three by three racks we have it available in in two pinhole sizing one is five

eights one is one inch pinhole sizing i do actually technically think this could fit into two by three rack if that's what you had to it was just that uh the get there would be kind of a funny gap yeah so i don't really know someone could if you got a two by three rack you could probably try it but really specifically designed for a three by three rack. And it'd fit anywhere. It's just like any of your attachments, anything that you've got, that's got the five eighths or one inch pin sizing. This'll go there.

So if we get into the details on this thing, did you say 12 gauge already, Tanner? 12 gauge. No, I don't think so. Okay. 12 gauge stainless steel made in America.

It is outside of the pin. One single piece of steel that's been bent to make this shape. And then we have in it laser cut. Cut with freaking laser beams. Lasers. We have the Mastanomics logo in the front. Drink spotter and Mastanomics laser cut into the side. And then on the backside of it, we have the Mastanomics logo.

Again, big. And certainly does pop, doesn't it, Tanner? Oh, this pops so freaking hard and i probably the best sales pitch on this that i heard tanner and i if i mess up any of these words correct me but i believe you said um we noticed a gaping hole in the beverage receptacle holder industry and for the gym environment for the gym environment and we knew that we were the two guys to fill that hole and here we are at the drink spotter we were the perfect two that could fill a hole that large um it's it's this is a product that is very unique compared to things

we've sold in the past it's not a t-shirt it's not a pair of shorts it's not a hat no cotton blend in this thing no it is uh just a stainless steel product um it's a fun interesting thing for us i'd say it's very don't you think this is very on brand for macedonics i think it's totally everyone would agree um one of the more um one of the more special uh power rack accessories that you could buy i would say nothing quite compares to the drink spotter rogue doesn't have one of the more special power rack accessories that you could buy, I would say. Nothing quite compares to the drink spotter. Rogue doesn't have one of these. Rep doesn't have one of these.

Give it time. They're going to be trying probably. They probably will. This is, I would add, Joey pointed out, it is maintenance-free. No maintenance required. It's stainless steel. Should not be doing any rusting on you. Would you say as strong as a house? It is strong as a house i mean oh if i try i can't do anything to it it

is hefty uh we also it is it is actually legitimately um several very yeah um i've been informed that titan will have one by the end of the week so he'll have a little sock will be whatever is way worse than 12 gauge steel i don't know anything about steel tanner so yeah um so it is super cool beans they are for sale now they're available on massonomics.com of course you can buy yours uh they can be shipped international they can be shipped to canada you're gonna have to pay for it unfortunately we did the best we could but it is not cheap yeah uh metal odd shaped objects yeah heavy metal objects but it is available to be shipped uh basically anywhere at this point so please buy them yep this isn't a hat situation do buy do buy the drink spot so maybe we should say just don't buy them though i don't know i

don't know um for now we'll say buy them and yeah we'd love to see this thing take off so it's it's uncharted territory for us anyone that buys one please what i would also ask uh when you get it you know tag us in pictures videos anything you've got of it because we're going to be sharing everything that we can and also uh if you're listening to this on Sunday or Monday or whenever you're checking this out this week, make sure to check out our YouTube. We got at least one good video out there,

promotional video that you're not going to want to miss on the Dream Spot. We have a good video coming for this. I did see Big Eddie wrote something. He wrote, he will judge the welds. No welding here. No welds. This is a solid piece. Yep.

It is bent and shaped to make this, the welds. No welding here. No welds. This is a solid piece. Yep. It is bent and shaped to make this. So no welding. No welding. Like you said before, the only piece that's separate is the pin because the pin is, there's a small screw that holds the pin in so we can either use the 5.8s or the 1-inch pin. That's the only piece of this that is not of one solid piece of stainless steel. Yeah.

Damn, drink spotter. Good stuff. It would fit in a hat box, but actually these have their own special box that these are going to go in. So these do not come with farts. They do not. They come with a special card. I feel like we're kind of getting a frequently asked questions section

here right now, which I do like. Big Nick says, if if i don't have a rack do you think it's still worth it to set it on a countertop absolutely i've been doing it in my uh office yes yeah it looks great what you've got regardless of having the rack or not and the pin does come off if you don't want the pin there you could take the pin off um what you've got is no matter where you put it you've got the world's maybe most expensive cup holder yeah and that's something then also the maybe heaviest yeah that's for sure worth something yeah so do you have a can that we could try them out here oh do i break this bad boy in yep all right tanner is this. Is this a canned segment? This is a canned segment. All right, cool beans.

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Okay. Ready, Tanner? I'm ready. So this is a... This is a what's in the can. This is a true legitimate segment. This is. Okay. It's in? I'm ready. So this is a... This is a what's in the can. This is a true legitimate segment. This is. Okay, it's an Akuzi.

It is an Akuzi. Why do some people do this? I don't know what that does. Nothing. It doesn't do anything. Here we go. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Well. There's some things going on there. Let me try it one more time. Well, I'll tell you what, I like it. I like this thing. It good quite refreshing let me try one more thing it tastes cherry cokie to me it tastes real cherry cokie to me there's a little something different just maybe just something that's hitting me right at the very end of it but i this is i'm not lying when i say it tastes like cherry coke to me again

let me try it again just to see if i'm way off on that it tastes like cherry coke to me well tanner that's my guess why don't you take a look here we are working with a tart cherry lime okay the lime was maybe hitting me i could tell that there was just like a slight thing at the end yeah i think now when you go yeah you get kind of that limeade lemonade yeah yeah yeah yep now i definitely taste it it is like the the and the tartness is there too, I think. That's pretty good. That's real good.

This is polar. I was, when I was at the store, for the first time in a very long time, they had new flavors that I'd never seen before, so I got lucky. It fits in the drink spotter with or without a koozie. Yeah, that's a selling point right there. Looks great too. I think I'd maybe point right there. Looks great, too. I think I'd maybe give this a four, maybe, Tanner.

Let me take one more sip before I go throw it around. I have to make a correction on last week. I think I have to retroactively lower my birthday cake. I couldn't quite finish that one last week. Are you going down to a three? I think i'm going down to a three on that okay yeah which i don't think it's ever been pulled off before but i i'm giving this a four it's good it's really freaking good yeah yeah i'm convinced on the four now that i've thought about it a little more it's delightful god we're kind of on a heater for outside of me.

Really good cans. Outside of me not enjoying the birthday cake one a whole lot. The flavors have been popping lately. They pop. So should we get to this? Yeah. We got a lot. Like we said, we got a lot of stuff going on this week.

We're kind of running out of time almost. That's right. I told Brandon, you know, if we call him in 15 minutes i think we're all right okay 10 to 15 okay i don't want him to think we just totally left him oh shit i didn't realize it was nine right now i'm just looking at that one which is already yeah uh man big joey goes everyone shut up it's time so he's not wrong it is time we are going to get into the massonomics meme contest results the moment everyone's been waiting for at least everyone that submitted a meme in this contest and boy were memes submitted tommy do you know how many memes were submitted for the contest over 500

i believe anyone in the uh discord got a guess on the number of memes that were submitted you're right it was 69 600 6 6969 420 and it was all 420 and 69 references exactly it was 523 memes that were submitted in the math within the the time frame time frame massomics meme contest 523 memes that's why i've been spending the last uh week was it one of those things where uh 20 of the entrance made up 80 of the entries i'm not sure if that's it was quite to that extent but yeah there's certainly some of that math in there yeah um and not we are not lying when we said it was very hard to pick winners it's hard to sort through 500 of anything to determine that give so yeah give someone 500 of something and say pick the best 10 out of here so if anyone wants to get critical or feel upset that they didn't

win i mean it's probably fair because it's not insane that we almost that we overlooked a couple that should have won because it's just so hard to funnel down that many to select a few winners so if someone had a you know someone could have a legitimate gripe about it but yeah if someone wants to make a list of the biggest snubs go ahead i'd love to see that i think that's a fun idea i think that uh some people should uh point out the biggest snubs that didn't make it because I'm not saying I'm disagreeing with them, but the list is what the list is at this point, and it's not changing. So in what way do we go?

Do we go bottom up? I think we start with the honorable mentions. Okay, so honorable mentions. We have, in true Masonomics fashion, several categories here, but the people that didn't quite make the cut the first first category we'll go through here this will be the honorable mentions people that we really so these were people that we were talking about uh they were in the debate they were in there but just they ultimately didn't quite get over the hump they didn't quite have that

bite that some of the other ones did but they were close and they're uh good enough that we knew we had to mention them and they're really this list you know so we've got one two three four five in this list this one could be like 50 long oh easily you know this honorable mention area but these were kind of the ones that were really like should these people win and there was a lot that on very first glance made me laugh. Yeah. Like it gave me a good nose breath. Some actually made me laugh out loud,

but then it was like going back. Did I laugh at it again? Did I think it was funny again? Did I think about it again? Some you look at again and it is kind of funny, but it's definitely not as funny. Some you see again, it might even be better the second time.

So that was where, that's what I think weeded out a lot of them. Once we got into this a little farther is, is that lasting power that some of them had. So should we cut off the discord now then? Yeah. So let's get into these honorable mentions then I think. Right.

Yeah. So should I, should I start with the first one here? Yeah. Are you going to start from the bottom? I'm going to start from the bottom. Okay. We, I think we mentioned? Yeah. So should I start with the first one here? Yeah. Are you going to start from the bottom? I'm going to start from the bottom. I think we mentioned this last week. I really like this one.

The vanilla of some sort. Fusion gains meme was really good. And that was from Big Jeff. He was operating under the handle of WNES memes, Western, North, Western Northeast South memes which I think that's just what his handle should be all the time it should be we talked about a category of

best sponsor meme it didn't necessarily materialize but he would have been in the running for that particular award but Big Jeff vanilla of some sort very good meme take the next one here next

one we've got uh i really liked this one this one was uh this one was tough for me because i i really had a personal bias on this i did have a personal bias and it just i can't i thought about this one multiple times and this was this was a theme of memes. There were several of this category that were kind of on the same level of funny, but this one particularly stuck out to me. It was a meme where they talk about the transition we make into overrated and underrated. So all these almost uncomfortable scenarios. So we've got this game called Overrated and Underrated.

And this one was doing that at a funeral, like the guy talking in the center of the funeral. He goes, so we've got this game called Overrated Underrated. And this one was doing that at a funeral, like the guy talking in the center of the funeral. He goes, so we've got this game called Overrated Underrated. And that was from Big Bob. And he is at the strongest man in history on Instagram. And we just titled that, So We Have This Game at a Funeral. Solid meme. Well done.

You don't, it's worth mentioning, these honorable mentions don't get anything other than this fame and you're getting a shout out you just get to know that you are so close to having actually won a prize yeah and you do have that to uh to to call out on everyone else you have you have that to fall back on yeah next one here big joey your squid game meme did make honorable mention yep and uh what was the exact wording on it, Tanner? I forget already. Well, it was the... Was it getting a follow back from Masonomics or?

Yeah, getting a follow back from us. And it was the... Like the little sugar cake thing that they have. You have to see Squid Game for that to make total sense. But timely meme, very well done. Very timely. Yeah, there's a few... There wasn't... I think had the meme contest been

one week earlier i think there would have been a lot of squid game there was several with the old man but uh yeah and joey joey's in the discord i don't know how you say joey's um joey underscore m i'll i'll be honest sometimes some i don't know some uh some names have too many consonants in a row to be able to pronounce them. Too many letters that I don't know. But that was one that we did debate on being a winner back and forth. It was right on the cusp as well. Next one we've got, I did think this one was really good.

This was from Big David. Which Big David do you ask? It was from Big David Mills at Above Parallel Memes. which big david do you ask is from big david mills at above parallel memes and it was the padme star wars meme the classic uh right but it was uh which put our faces yeah with our faces over the top of it and it was the with like they're doing a meme contest and there's prizes right and then it's like me looking back at you like a sheepish look and you're like right um i like that very good yep uh next one last honorable mention we have here this would be the the tanner clark griswold um you're looking all triumphant up on that rock with a barbell there's

a plate there's some sponsors hanging from your legs all types of little massonomics easter eggs in there and kind of something we talked about and what not always the case but sometimes i really like these memes that um there's a time and there's room for all the memes i would first say first say that but i have a real affinity to the memes where they're creating something out of nothing it's not a template uh-huh like he literally just made this thing and made it into a meme you know like if if there's a high level they're really funny yeah right and there there it is big tyler just posted it yes and that yeah that is at

it's funny you know we didn't talk about it i'm not going to specifically say on the podcast as to not ruin any future surprises but do you know what that reminded me of, Tommy? Oh, I know exactly. Okay, yeah. That's something. Because it reminded me of something too. We have something that's coming out someday and that in a way reminds me of it.

If that says anything. People just have to stay tuned. Yeah, Big Tyler at Lift Hard Live Easy. Great Instagram title by the, or Instagram handle by the way too all right easy now before we get to the winners we have one more category these guys are also not winners we have one more category of not winners and this is but they're in their own special category their own and it's slightly above the honorable mentions category if that means anything

on the sheet at least they're they're literally above them the honorable mention category on the sheet and so this this category right between the honorable mention and the winners is the bridesmaids category and we have two people in this category tanner the first one that i'm going to take on because and you said it's the bridesmaids category yes yes bridesmaids category this one made me ah we were so right on the edge but it just didn't quite make the cut and what i'd say about this group of people, these guys have so often been the brides. You know, the traditional thing is like always a bridesmaid, never a bride. These particular guys have always been brides.

Time and time again. And for this contest, we're calling them both bridesmaids, actually. So they get to experience on that side of life for a change. So this first one made me laugh several times going back to it by big matt at mostly squat videos the texas power bar lathe buys a buys a lathe yeah you can address so many known issues with this bad boy uh it's that was that was good it was really good it was really funny so good job on that one the one other one of matt's i would point out that i really like too was the uh um yes they do yes they uh matthew mcconaughey oh the cool beans yeah uh what was the

um i can't remember that's how much i liked it i can't remember it i can't remember what it starts but it'd be a lot cooler if you did yeah yeah yeah yeah also very well done yeah second man in this group though tanner second man if anyone hasn't guessed it by this point who matt would be partnered with in the bridesmaid category be none of that none of the than big nate. Nate E561. And that was the first Anchorman video. Yeah, we selected the Anchorman video for his, which was a very good video.

I like the incorporation of Scantz as, I think it was Scantz, the history channel, because it was the old people. I like that. Well, no, no, was he the Canadian one? Or was it history channel? I can't remember now. I should have watched it right before we started.

But there was just a lot of very funny references in that one. Yes, there was. And just deep references, like just how they kept coming. There was just reference after reference. Again, not a winner. Not a winner. But good job, guys. There's always next time.

Okay, now we are into the official category of winners. We're going to announce the winners, but there's a grand prize winner. The grand prize winner will be last. We'll announce that last. Okay. First one I'm going to read here. This would be the best Aberdeen Magazine meme. And just to clarify, too, prizes.

So the grand prize winner, they're winning the 35-pound strength coat plates. We know that. Everyone else is getting your choice of the Frankenstein cut and sewn Masonomics shirts. Sizing's weird and stuff, but I'll get to how that's going to work. So you get your choice of that, the original artwork from Skinny Idiot Studios, the Masonomics stuff. From the Masonomics comics.

Or you can read an ad live on the podcast. We would call you and presumably you could read the Texas live on the podcast. We would call you and, you know, presumably could you eat the Texas power bars ad. You can read the strength co-ad. We kind of work with you and get your choice on that. We could get that ad. You don't want to make sure you're comfortable.

So those are your choices. And because the shirts are, there's only certain sizes for the shirts. We're kind of reading these in reverse order of placing. So the people at the top of the list that we're going to read last, we're going to get with them first to see if they happen to want one of those shirts, which one they want, and we'll go down the list like that. Yeah.

And we also did say that maybe there might be some. Yeah, we've got other. If you really hate all those prizes, we'll work with you. We'll get something for you. So first one,, we'll work with you. We'll get something figured out for you. First one, best Aberdeen Magazine meme. That would be from the Galaxy PT2. I always say the Galaxy part two. I always say the Galaxy part two, too.

Big Luke. He did the Aberdeen Magazine cover with me and you on it, and it was totally hilarious. Tanner, you really started something when you mentioned that last week because we figured we had to have best aberdeen magazine meme after because after we talked about that last week it was just flooded with so many good aberdeen magazine memes um it was actually hard to pick a winner on that honestly there's so many good ones you brought it up on the podcast we got done we looked at our phones we were just laughing and we were laughing so like the first one just because this is what started put me in the mind state was,

I think, I think, was it Matt? Did he have the one of the shining with the ax coming through the door? Very good. That was like, you know, they're going to wait the next day because they obviously not getting

tagged like ever. And they're getting tagged and they say, Oh, who tagged us? And it's an ax coming through in a meme that they don't understand at all so that was that was uh that was good that was a sign of what's to come but yeah seeing us on the cover of the magazine tanner uh i think it was like something love is in the air or something along the lines of valentine's day yeah um very good very good next one then is we called this category best wholesome meme this one is going to

longtime massonomics supporter big scott dodds at scott dodds underscore hook grip anyone that's been around massonomics for a while has seen big scott before and his meme calling it the stronger by science over his head meme where it's the the three levels of the the stronger by science is way over his head uh table talk with dave tate is just just slightly over his head and massonomics podcast goes straight to the heart yeah and who can who here can't relate to that yeah like i feel i listen to uh all those and i just i just relate to that so well and it's just a good wholesome meme straight to the heart so So congratulations, Big Scott. Very well done.

You're a wiener. The next meme here. Best meme about a sponsored athlete. And that was the... We had a lot of Jonathan. We did have a lot of Jonathan Olden memes. Some swim hack memes in there. And this winner is the swim hack from Wish meme

by BeerBelly underscore lifts big chris uh it was look at the bridesmaids amazing yeah not to interrupt not to steal big big chris's thunder yeah not still big chris's thunder but um what did it say uh when you order swim hack from wish and he just had the full swim hack get up on the sushi which means massonomics clothes which means most people have those clothes you know with the sushi stacks he's got the he's got the you know the short uh light colored hair you know just it really was like oh that would be swim hack from wish uh-huh yeah it was really funny it was very good next one um And here, this is the last of the first group of winners.

Right, right, right. So this one is best podcast meme. Best Mastanomics podcast meme is what this category is. A lot of good submissions on this, too. And this is a heavily populated category. This is. So winning this category does mean something. And everyone out there listening

right now is like oh it's me i i made it i made one about the bassonomics podcast and it was so good it's got to be me fire the winner for this one is big does that give away anything the first name big uh second name jen big jen on welcome back to episode 2600. And we were, what was it, the two, was it the British, what is their title? Prince something whatever? Just those really, really old guys in the British monarchy. Yeah, and it's me and you, Tanner. Yeah, I like that.

That one even had a spinoff. Swimhack made something where it was. Him in there too. Yeah, and I guess him still still getting first still getting first comment yep that was funny that was a good one okay so this next one is not the grand prize winner this is the this is tier b the first and final yeah like this is like the one a um you don't get the plates i guess you get that you get the honor of knowing you were very close to you you couldn't have been closer to those plates and not got them yep you were as close as you

could possibly be so the first runner up to this whole contest is the how the silly goose found his druthers meme by at angry monkey big ryan ah that thing was good. And we should probably, do you have the exact wording on that thing, Tanner? Um, yeah, I've got that one here. I've got that one. The exact wording.

It was, uh, let's see. Pause for dramatic effect. Okay. It goes. So it's me, like the father or daddy,

me, daddy sitting in the middle the middle uh this one's pretty well cropped too you know pretty well put together and you're like on my right hand side like a little baby like two babies yeah and uh jonathan baby head is on my left hand side and it goes and we've got the storybook in front of us it goes okay kiddos time for your okay kiddos time for your favorite book how the silly goose found his brothers and there's something about that phrase that is that like a version of english i don't understand how the silly goose found his brothers i just think that's like the perfectly crafted title to this fake book.

I just think it's awesome. It could almost be a children's book. Yeah. Yes. Very funny. Very good. That's awesome. Okay, Tanner, do you want to take it away for the grand prize winner?

Yeah, I was just thinking of a couple other people that didn't win. The roommates watching How I Met Your Mother Again. I just had to laugh a couple other people that didn't win the roommates watching how I met your mother again. I just had to laugh here one time quick. Cause I just see the discord big grants. Is there a link? Did I miss it? I've been in the gym, unable to leave my plates.

And of course the first thing that pops up is the strength of bot has to chop it. Chime in, but that prize winner. Yeah. Yeah. Grand prize winner. So this is the winner.

Uh, and grants here to to to listen to this who gets to win the special ultra limited edition 35 pound plates does anyone have any guesses who it is it is big david which big david again you ask big david hunter account memonomics underscore numero underscore uno uh the scant is okay it's okay i'm fine uh grand prize and his was for the uh discord we're on it of the mess i'm on the discord i'm on it too and that's so funny for multiple reasons. I think a big, how it ties in though, is that that's became the iconic South Dakota, uh,

marketing campaign this, this last year. Well, wasn't it like two years ago? Maybe, maybe it was. Maybe. Yeah,

you're right. Right. Right. I guess at least a year and a half, but that South Dakota tie in is, uh, is just sets that over the top and then all the the names of all the other discord members that he gets in there it's kind of

similar to that uh big nate's meme from earlier everyone it goes to it has a name on and it is so funny that there's a name on every single person yeah um almost knocked over the drink spot there in excitement for big david but he is the winner, the grand prize winner. Overall comments, I would say this was an awesome contest. It was. It made it really, really fun. It was wicked awesome. To just click the hashtag every day and see what was happening

because there was a lot happening. I mean, I honestly mean it too. I said I mean like seven times in that one sentence. But I really think this, that we probably missed a lot that we're deserving of being mentioned here. And it's just really hard when there's 523 of them to pick the winners. But I'm also, that being said, I'm very happy with the people we selected as winners here.

There's a lot of good meme content. Absolutely. And really, I would say at the end of this contest, everyone was a winner, weren't they? Oh, I think the real winner was the friends we made along the way tanner yeah that's true the real wit i think the real winner was you and i for getting all this free content really good free content for us to have well someone's gonna come out with 35 pound plates so that's true i guess big david uh can't can't. So we're going to contact the,

the other winners. You know, I'm going to talk to big Ryan, then big Jen, then big Chris, big Scott, big Luke. We'll see what you want for prizes.

We'll get that figured out. Congrats to everyone. Very well done. Thanks guys. Yeah. Thank you girls. Now, um,

Ooh, that was a long first section. That was, I'm turning off the discord. I am not on the Discord, Tanner. We are not on the Discord anymore. Discord's going bye-bye. See you, Discord.

Discord's done. Now, should we get our guest, Big Brand? Do we need to read an ad first? Oh, yeah. We better do an ad real quick first, Tommy. I hate to keep making him wait. Yeah, we better do an ad. Speaking of the Strength Co., I'm not going to read that ad.

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excited to get you on it's been a long time coming yeah you know i was uh wondering if you're ever gonna ring my bell and here it is well we're still a little pissed at the uh showdown meet you kind of set something on our table for a while and uh we i think we lost some customers over it so we got a bone to pick with you still i rented that spot no we we did see you there we really didn't get a chance to hardly talk to you as a busy weekend and stuff but um you were there helping were you coaching uh some women on the second day yeah uh Karina Davis Quadzilla on Instagram and didn't she bench like 400 pounds? Yeah, 396. And I think the most we did in training was like 373. So her peak went absolutely perfect.

I knew 402 was there, but again, we were going for a total, not for the bench. So all attempts were a little on the conservative side to leave a little bit on the platform. But she did what we set out to do. She ended up squatting 540 bench, you know, was 396. And then she got a red light on her 540 deadlift for a downward motion. But it definitely was the right call. So I think she ended up with like 512, something like that.

Damn. That's pretty. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah. Yeah. There's girls are stronger. The girls are stronger than I am now. It's insane.

Well, so you have. I'm curious about that because we did just see you there, so it was fun to lead off with that. But you have, like, gone through some pretty huge changes in the last couple of years. You know, now focus more on arm wrestling, but maybe you could just talk us through, for anyone that doesn't know, kind of the string of events that led you from i don't know totaling 2500 pounds to now competing you know professionally in arm wrestling yeah so

um you know it's been a ride uh again if i if you had told me in 2018 this is what i'd be doing in 2021 i would say you're full of shit there's no way um just know, powerlifting is, I've always been a powerlifter. Even before I was a competitive powerlifter, it's just what I've always done. That's what I always will do. That's what I still do to this day. I can't get away with it. I don't get away from it. I just love, I just love it.

So, again, yeah, 2018, you know, I was on top of the world. You know, I kicked ass at Kern. I had the highest total in the day, and I barely lost to Uri in the Wilks. And if I had hit that last deadlift of 8.87, which I did hit, I just dropped it on the way down. It rolled out of my hand. You know, I would have won, you know, that 40 grand and beat Uri in the Wilks, which, you know, people say he was unbeatable in Wilks.

So that would have been, you know, pretty cool. That's how the year in 2018 started. I took all 2017 off rehabbing injuries that I acquired in 2016. So I came back in swinging hard. And then we were going to Big Dogs 3 in Australia at the end of 2018. Actually, I believe that was the end of 2018, the very end of 2018. Yeah, it was the end of 2018, the very end of 2018. And, you know, I had already torn my knee training in 20 for the Kern. In Kern, I squatted 975.

The plan was to go for 1,003. But everyone remembers Kern in 2018, the crazy stage with the wobble. Yeah, like J.P. Price was like bouncing. Right, that moonwalk he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The crazy, you know, the judging was just a little a little ridiculous that day um it was just one of those days um but uh yeah so i ended up with a 975 squat high squat meet um again i was totally ready for a thousand three at that point but i i if i'd hit that thousand three i probably would have gone to big dogs i would have waited for big dogs for the following

year because of the condition of my knee but i I was so adamant to squat 1,000 and be the first one to squat 1,000 and pull 900. You know what I mean? I really wanted that one. And that was still up for grabs at that time. So I had a partial torn patella tendon at that time, MRI and everything. And it wasn't too bad to where you know the doc was too concerned to where i needed to completely stop he obviously wanted me to pull back and rest so after that meet i think i took seven weeks off of no squatting at all um which is you know it's hard to do you know especially when you're a meathead and you know you're on top of the world in terms of strength where you get retarded right so um i wanted i wanted to keep squatting so seven

weeks out for seven weeks off and then i started squatting. And it felt great. You know, I was shooting BCP 157 and CB 500 into my knee every day and growth hormone and doing whatever I can to try to mend the fucking thing. And it just, you know, was one of those things that's kind of nagging. So I was prepping for Australia, and I had a squat, a big squat prepping for that. I think it was like maybe 955 or 965 in that range where something didn't feel right. And I was pretty sure I just made the tear worse. And, you know, the tickets are already booked and everything for Australia.

And it was just one of those things like, well, I'm just going to rest and then go out there and see what we can do. So I didn't even get my final squat in prep for that. My depth was crazy strong. My bench was really good. So I was confident. As long as I can survive around 1,000-pound squat, which is insane to say, right? But again, I was that strong at that time to where 940 was realistic, assuming I was completely healthy or or 930 or so or 1030 or so um but uh anyway so uh we're like yeah you know maybe we can survive that

you can do it mind you this is me talking to my wife and uh also with uh guidance from chad weston smith who um i listened to um the best i can but he's definitely more of the conservative side of things and i was more aggressive so uh we went to board with australia and then out there in australia you know i uh i hit that uh i hit a thousand and eight squat i was the only retard to walk it out um of the monolith and uh you know it you know watching it moved great and everything like that so i was pretty happy with that um you know but that knee was already torn it held on out there i was i was very grateful for that because we remember what happened to Brandon Lilly. He went to Australia with a torn knee, made it worse, ended up costing him a ton of money,

getting stuck out there, and then trying to get home with it swelling on the airplane. Just that whole nightmare that he went through. So that was kind of in my head. I was just really thankful that nothing fell apart out there. And that knee, the way itor-lose he did, I'm not sure how deep you want me to get into that meet, but I know we're mainly talking about what ended the powerlifting. So that meet went fairly good.

I ended up getting third place with a 24-30 total, which is the highest podium ever in powerlifting history. There's never been a 24-100 podium. You know, and again, I went for a 900 pound deadlift on the end when in reality, I should have, you know, I wanted to go 881. That's what I was prepped for. Was it, you know, I mean, that was like on the conservative was a solid 81. And that would have put me in front of Odell Manuel. But I, you know, Odell hurt his hamstring.

I was opening deadlift. It was stuck to the numbers. But I didn't go out there for fucking second place. I went out there to win. I said full send 900 pounds and i got it up there uh you know even above my knees and then just you know i started seeing stars and it just stopped moving it was one of those things you just had to let it go or yeah so that happened anyways fast forward a little bit we get back from from Oscarilla. And again, I took about eight weeks off trying to let my knee heal. And it felt good. I mean, I'm not – I'd be lying if I said it felt bad.

It definitely felt good. Again, this is continuing with the peptide and growth hormone use in the knee. And, you know, again, it felt really good. I was down in body weight, so I felt comfortable, and I was still really strong. So we started prepping for Kern 2019, and at this time, no one had yet done 1,000 and a 900. I was confident to do 1,050 and 900. Dylan Hellraiser ended up hitting that 1,900 within that time period, which he's a freak, so he deserved it. And obviously, that sucked, but I was still determined a freak, so he deserved it. And obviously, you know, that sucked.

But I was still determined to go out there and do it. I was like, all right, I'll be the first guy to do 1,050 into 900 or something fucking stupid. Whatever I did to justify it to myself to keep pushing it and, you know, eating four speed. And I was like 365 pounds. You know, I'm only 6'1", so I'm not meant to be that big. Well, the knee was starting to bug me.

You know, during a warm-up one day at squat. Andy, that huge Asian guy was out there with me training. We're filming a video for Iron Rebel, so we had, you know, a little film crew and, you know, guys there at the gym, so the hype was real. And, you know, the knee was feeling like shit warming up. I knew something was definitely bad.

And I did, like, 880 or something, or 870, feeling like shit warming up i knew something was definitely bad and um on the i i did like 880 or something or 870 and i was like my first rap squad did 800 sleeves and you know it's weird you know the sleeves that would really fuck my knee up like when i wasn't just i mean the wraps excuse me when i was just in sleeves i never had any pain or any issues um i did like a 900 or 800 pound squat very easy um sleeves and then i went to like 881 or 87 whatever the kilo conversion was and That wasn't wraps and my knee it's just made like a pop and it feel good And I just kind of chalked it up to was just air like, you know, leave like cracking a knuckle It wasn't a big deal. I remember I'm saying outside of my wife and I'm like fuck

Yeah, I don't know. I said well change it squat to definitely for the body with just body weight I'll say probably not so, you know, I didn't even want to attempt it and you know that's just you know when you're stupid and fucking just trying to keep pushing the limits so i go in there and uh my next squat was 925 pounds um i don't even know that was supposed to be my top squat or maybe i had one after 955 i don't remember where we were in prep at that point. But I did the 925. Right when I got into the bucket, all the way down the hole, my quad tendon completely severed. My patella tendon snapped in half.

My kneecap rolled over in my knee. And my leg just completely gave. And, you know, somehow I ended up standing up with that with one leg. You can find the video on youtube or uh instagram pistol squad at 925 and then stepped it in the mono that's gotta be some kind of record you know so that you know but again my knee was completely uh the quad was completely separated you know all the way off and you know we racked it and as soon as they pulled the wrap off i just felt everything start moving around my quadricep rolled up into my hip my kneecap shifted over i mean it was real weird i was like oh fuck

and then i'm like yo they sit me down on a bench and uh i mean i'm sitting there i'm still i'm just so delusional and it might be all right yeah yeah yeah it's funny to look back on it and realize how fucking dumb i was and um i was like i think we're like seven weeks out from current so i'm thinking like oh it's not that bad maybe do like one or two big squats before the meet i'll be good you know what i mean uh maybe the 1050 won't be there but something big will be there and um you know she's completely delusional and i couldn't even walk out of the gym um one of my buddies uh derrick white uh he uh she got one leg, so he's got crutches. He brought me his crutches over just so I can get up, get to my truck, and get home.

You know, my wife had to drive me home. It was my right knee that was busted. So I get home, and, you know, I keep telling myself, oh, it's not that bad. I can't even walk, you know. I'm fucking scooting around in a crutch and just getting my chair, and I'm sitting there. And then, you know, I reach out to a friend of mine who's a PT at the doctor that I see. And so she was like, yeah, I'm going to see him tomorrow. I'll let him know.

So she sees him and shows him the video. And then he's like, oh, he needs to come in. He tore his quad. And, you know, she kind of tells me that. I'm like, don't tell my quad. No way. I think like maybe it's a small little ligament. I didn't think it was a big deal.

So I crutch my way fucking into the truck, and I go to see the specialist a couple days later because he was on a weekend. And he has me do a couple tests, and he's trying to tell me to move my leg forward, and I am, but I'm using my hip and swinging it. He's like, no, no, no, no. He holds my hip. He's like, move your leg.

And I couldn't. It was a weird feeling. You know what I mean? To have your leg completely, you know no, no, no. He holds my hip. He's like, move your leg. And I couldn't. It was a weird feeling. You know what I mean? To have your leg completely, you know, the muscles separate it. And he just wouldn't move. I was like, oh, fuck. And he's like, yeah, dude.

He's like, you tore your quad. I'm like, well, can I still do the knee? He's like, no. He's like, no, man. He's like, you'll never walk again. And he's like, we're going to repair this. I'm like, whoa. So here we go.

I'm on cloud nine. I'm there you know number three in the world and uh extremely confident that i was going to break andre mahalchev's record at that time daniel bell had not had it yet i'm extremely confident i was going to break it and i was you know just uh it just sucked you know i didn't want to believe it and um i was like no way he's like yeah you're gonna be out for a year i'm like you know that's an eternity you know what i mean when you're uh at the top because you know a year i mean at least it feels like an attorney when you're going through it looking back on it it's just a blimp in your life but at the moment it was forever right yeah i was like it's a wrap you know what i mean what am i even doing this work so um i dealt with i went and i had a surgery um had knee repaired. I was like 363 pounds in the morning of surgery.

It was fucking brutal, so big. My poor wife was having to lug me around. Luckily, she's strong as fuck. Isn't your wife like six foot tall? Yeah, she's six foot tall, just jacked. She trains every day. She's strong as the cops. And she got a pretty awesome hat at the showdown.

Yeah, she has a pretty awesome hat at the showdown came up and showed me uh her camo and orange uh lift I was like oh fuck yeah she was like oh I thought it was cute I wanted to buy it I'm like cool but yeah she was stoked on that um but yeah so again luckily she's stronger and stronger to come you know mind you when you're completely locked, you're kind of fucking useless. I'm stuck on a recliner chair. I can't get up on my own. This is not possible because I can't bend my leg.

At that weight, it was brutal, guys. Pissing in a bottle all day while she's gone to work until she got home. I'm still writing programs online. I do not miss those motherfucking days i'm so glad they're behind me i was sitting there just smelling like shit

yeah just getting sweaty on the couch yeah yeah i have a i have a fan coming each direction just to get that fucking smell going away from me and stuff that was brutal but um you know so you know we dealt with that and uh you know that recovery was uh relatively quick um i think uh you know two months after i was moving around pretty good on my own um you know still like in a leg like lock my leg was locked shut i don't remember how it was i don't remember what it was that did it but my leg was locked straight to me and then uh maybe three months out that's when i was able to start kind of moving the leg a little bit trying to get trying to get it moving and then uh yeah four months out, that's when I was able to start kind of moving the leg a little bit and trying to get it moving.

And then, yeah, four months out, I'm now moving around well to where I'm doing bodyweight squats to a box and rehabbing my knee. I remember I put out that video with Iron Rebel where I was like talking shit like, you know, being top five is trash. I don't want to be number one and blah, blah, blah. I'm all fucking fired up to come back. And I was benching north of 500 pounds. I was just, you know, still strong and I was still in it. You know, I was still big, 350 or 345 pounds from what I was. Anyways, like I said, moving around, doing bodyweight squats.

And then, you know, we had just, you know, was it, we just partnered with the new gym or it was something around that time where anyways i was driving much further to the gym now and uh i was riding my new bike like i've you know i've had a Harley for a minute but i sold my road king and ended up upgrading and riding a road glide so i was super stoked on my new bike and i'm riding the fucking riding my bike to the gym and then uh i got smashed uh tboned at like 50 miles an hour and, you know, launched up in the air, you know, came down, landed on my head and then, you know, whiplash in my back. Ended up breaking my pelvis, shattering, you know, like five vertebrae in my spine, tore my erector in my back, completely tore every ligament in my left leg, which is the opposite leg, into growing. So I had like no movement in my left leg which is the opposite leg in the groin so i had

like no movement in my left leg at all and then um luckily i didn't do any damage to my right leg my knee that i just you know had repair that i was barely even walking on so you know i was pretty confident that or not confident i mean i thought i was gonna die when i first got hit because i was in the air it was all slow motion i was reaching for the ground trying to catch the ground couldn't came down smacked my head and then I was pretty amazed that I was still conscious I remember laying there on the ground and then um I knew I wasn't paralyzed because my upper body was burning on the asphalt because it's Vegas you know it was like a hard yeah yeah and uh but I couldn't feel my legs at all um so I thought I was gonna be paralyzed lower

lower half and uh yeah you know the responding emts and firemen they uh you know they were a fan of me they knew me through instagram and they're like oh shit's brandon like how's your knee i'm like my knee dude i can't feel anything like and then um you know they they you know they obviously know how serious it was and it took a minute for the fucking ambulance it seems like to get there who knows this all could have been a couple minutes guys in my In my head, it was an hour. You know what I mean? I don't know.

It could have been 20 minutes, 10 minutes. I don't know. So we get in the ambulance, and we're driving to the fucking hospital. I remember thinking, like, fuck, man, how did this happen? You know? And you just, I don't know, you just start thinking of the worst of everything. And I texted my dad, and it was a rough time. And, you know, We get to the hospital.

They strip all your clothes off. I'm just sitting there with my little dick hanging out. I'm like, this is even more embarrassing. At least give me a chub. Just like half of one. I couldn't get any blood flow down there. It was pretty hard.

The fucker was just being stubborn. My wife finally shows up. down there. I was trying hard. The fucker was just being stubborn. So, and then my wife finally shows up because again, she's at work and I had to text her and it was rough text. So she gets there

and they send me to the back. That's right. I'm sorry. She had not gotten there yet. So they sent me to the back for an MRI or no, a CAT scan,

excuse me. And I don't, or no, I'm sorry, it was MRI first. And then I got stuck in the MRI machine, as usual. I know. Bring some techs in to fucking take the thing apart,

get me out, send me to a different MRI machine and put me in the other way, see if we're, oh, dude, it was a fucking nightmare. And all this time, my legs aren't moving. Like, I can't really feel anything. And then, you know, at this point, we're still thought of, maybe I was paralyzed, I don't know. And then maybe it's been like three or four hours now and uh you know

after the mri the cat scan i'm laying there my wife got there and my legs were starting to move that point my toes and shit i could feel everything i was okay so it was just an impact shock that um was that lost mobility so uh i was feeling i was pretty happy about that obviously and i was okay i'm gonna i was in my head i was like i'm. In my head, I was like, I'm going to be okay. As long as I can fucking walk. I don't want to be stuck in a wheelchair. I just want to be able to walk. I don't care about lifting or anything at that point.

So the doctor comes out. She's an Indian doctor, a woman. She was like, sir, I don't want to offend you. She was like, but if it weren't for all your size, there's no way you would be here today. I was like, oh, you're not offending me. I was like, I have four speed, four speed motherfucker i was like this is by design oh my god this is what an accident i was like yeah this is not an accident so you know it was

you know relieving to hear that you know all the hard work paid off but again i just should never got hit in the first place is how the fuck do you not see a 340 pound man on a fucking road it's like the biggest bike you can get but um i mean you can get but um no that happened here it is and then uh you know we get out of the hospital for that and that was rough because this was way worse than the knee surgery because this one my left leg didn't work at all i couldn't like there was no ability to move it forward so i'd have to like be on crutches and then lean onto my right knee which is now my good knee which i just had repaired fucking four months ago and then my wife would have to like be on crutches and then lean on to my right knee, which is now my good knee, which I just had repaired fucking four months ago. And then my wife would have to pick up my left leg and move it forward.

And then I'd lean on that leg and scoot over and then on the right and then so on and so forth. So as you can imagine, I didn't move much for a few months. Yeah. Right back on that fucking couch. Yeah. Oh, my God. This motherfucker. You know, I just want it.

It was you can only imagine what was going through my head yeah absolutely um yeah it was a tough time uh but again uh you know as i started rehabbing that i'm starting moving around again and you know i'm like fucking super happy we just opened up the big gym um things are uh i don't know things are looking good we're ready to run meets and all this cool stuff. And then, I don't know, man. I just couldn't. My back was just so fucked up.

I couldn't get strong again. Like, I would go to, like, I'd feel good deadlifting, like three, four plates. You know what I mean? And I'd just turn it up a little bit, and I'd have that one spot that tore my back. Even to this day, I have a little gap in muscle um from when that tear was uh it just never fully mended and uh i was just feeling every time i get strong so um you know i just fucking hated it i just hated lifting at that point i was so depressed and just so over it i was still benching you know decent weight in the low 500s and shit like that

so i mean that everything was bad i just was so mad and then all the um atrophy that was happening in my legs and i worked so hard you know i all the atrophy that was happening in my legs. I worked so hard. You know what I mean? You get to that side. I was watching myself shrivel up. Well, you know, a buddy of mine, Eric Spoto, is a world champion bench presser.

He's also an amazing arm wrestler. One of the best there is. He's posting on Instagram again now, too. He's coming out of the wild. You're welcome. Did you force him into it? He's got an arm and pulled his ear to get him to post. Smoto is all about arm wrestling.

He's like, oh, the team, the biggest arm wrestling team, I'm sharing the gym. Then my other buddy, Eric A., who we sold during you know, during COVID and stuff, you know, I'm fast forwarding a little bit, we sold the gym and we sold it to Eric's photo and our other buddy, Eric A., so the two Erics. So, you know, but they're both arm wrestlers and they're, you know, pushing me to do arm wrestling with them. So I would go to practice here and there. I wasn't in love with it at first.

Like, they're all like, oh my God, you're so strong, but they're kicking the shit out of me, you know what I mean? So it didn't feel so strong. And then it wasn't, you know, until I met Devin Larratt. He came out to my gym from Canada, and I see this guy walking in the gym, and he just looks like a gorilla, you know, like 6'6", and his arms dragged on the fucking ground, his knuckles dragged on the ground, enormous forearms.

I'm like, what the fuck? And Spoto's like, this guy's the best arm wrestler in the world. I'm like, what? I'm like, this guy fuck? And Spoto's like, this guy's the best arm wrestler in the world. I'm like, what? I'm like, this guy? Like, no fucking way. So, you know, I think that's kind of like the night that I really fucking fell in love with it. You know, again, I've had exposure to arm wrestling prior to this from Derek Smith, you know, guys in Cal. Like, I've had a lot of exposure to it.

But I've seen it at the expos and things like that. But I didn't care about it. You know what I mean? It was nothing I cared about. I think that was like the turning point where I was like, dude, actually fucking, this is pretty tight. So I started arm wrestling, you know, going to practice every week. And like when you first start arm wrestling for like the first year, you just get weaker every week because your tendons get more and more sore

and damaged and they take so long to recover. So it was one of those things I just had to keep sticking with and keep going and keep going and keep going and learning better technique and getting stronger and stronger. And, uh, you know, I was like,

fuck dude. I was like, well, I love this arm wrestling shit. It's growing big. There's a lot of opportunity in it. I don't have to put a thousand pounds on my back again. I may not even be able to put a thousand pounds on my back again.

I was like, maybe this is for me. You know what I mean? It's another strength sport. I like competing. Maybe this is for me. And then, and plus it's more combat, you know what I mean? It's head to head, man to man, a little different than powerlifting, which I like, you know what i mean it's another strength sport i like competing maybe this is for me and then plus it's more combat you know what i mean it's head-to-head man-to-man a little

different than powerlifting which i like you know and i like that aspect of it um you know shit talking is a lot funner and there's just more to it so um yeah i was like maybe i'm gonna stick with this so my arms were pretty beat up just from all the training i was doing um i uh you know i had dino from you know fucking you know a fucking decade of steroid abuse. I wanted that removed because it was kind of hard when I was losing size. I felt uncomfortable being 300 pounds because my gyno would show more. My chest size is smaller and everything like that. My muscles are smaller.

So I had my gyno removed. That was a fucking brutal ass surgery too. If you're ever thinking about doing it, I highly recommend it. Just letting you guys know the recovery is a bitch. There's a there's a point where i was sitting there i was like here i am on the fucking couch again i hate i elected to do this you chose to do this one to the couch so here i get fucking skinny again i'm pitching fucking 500 anymore and uh you know i had nothing going for me, but at least I got

that fucking gyno going. I was super stoked on that. So, and then again, you know, as soon as I recovered from the gyno, right back, all I thought about

during my recovery was arm wrestling. I was in love with it. I was watching every fucking YouTube video there is to watch. It was just, totally just immersed into it.

And so, I didn't try to learn as much as i can and so when i came back that's all it was arm wrestling so i started training arm wrestling like real serious um still while doing powerlifting uh movements and stuff like that and then uh you know earlier this year i was getting pretty strong in powerlifting oh actually i'm sorry last year uh it's 2021 now so um oh no no it was earlier this year fuck man this year's been a weird one earlier this year i was getting strong again i was like

i think i'm gonna do a powerlifting meet again so um i was gonna do this meet in phoenix was it uh you that's the federation not aau that's fucking drug free it was um apf or yeah yeah that's right it was yeah but i was gonna do it was tim sparks i was gonna do an aps me and uh i just uh i was gonna i was pretty confident at 308 i could do a 2 000 pound raw total which um used to mean something you know what i mean i know yeah that's yeah we've had that conversation with a lot of people like at the showdown now it's like oh just like you got a 2000 oh you and everyone else right right right i mean it still does mean something honestly but like that is what it seems like yeah well when i first got in powerlifting like there wasn't too many people

that did it 2000 pound total so that was like that was the goal not the standard that's the standard today right um i was like okay well i can I can do a 2,000-mile total. That would be great. I'll promote my coaching. You know what I mean? Get me back out there in the powerlifting scene. I was pretty dead in the powerlifting scene for a minute. It was just, you know, it is what it is.

And I was like, you know, that would be good. And then my team had an arm wrestling tournament that they were going to up north in northern Nevada. And I wanted to go to it, but it was the same weekend weekend as that meet i already said i was going to do that meet uh long story short i end up getting hurt prepping for this fucking meet again uh and that was nothing serious uh you know my left hip i don't know this is i kind of always had pain in this area i don't know if it just got worse from the action or what or all the compensation for my right knee going on to my left who knows what it is but my left hip i've always had pain in this area. I don't know if it just got worse from the accident or what, or all the compensation from my right knee going on to my left. Who knows what it is,

but my left hip, I've always had this spot. It's just fucking hurt. You know what I mean? It kind of swells up a little bit. And, um, I hit,

uh, I think so that I, the week before I did six 85 for like three sets of three. So I knew my strength to come back up. I was like, Oh, let's do an AMRAP with like six 35 decent weight. See where I'm at. And I hit like eight reps.

And on the eighth rep i'm coming out of the hole my hip popped like it was like an odd like i could hear it you know i was like oh fuck me so i wrapped it i'm like you dumb motherfucker here we are again back to the fucking couch that's all i could think about right yeah i was like i was confident something just tore you know the way it sounded and uh and then you know a few minutes go by you let the fucking shot go away i'm like oh maybe it's not that bad i go to squat it just hurt like shit but i was able to you know, the way it sounded. And then, you know, a few minutes go by, and you let the fucking shot go away. I'm like, oh, maybe it's not that bad. I go to squat, and it just hurt like shit.

But I was able to full range of motion, things like that. So I call my doctor up. I'm like, hey, doc, you know, me again. And I was like, I need to see. I got something going on. So I go see him. He's worried I may have torn an attachment off the bone area. So I went and had an mri done

and um no no tear i just have really bad brucitis and tendonitis from all the years of um of the penis you know so it's one of those things where he's like that he's like you know you have you know really bad brucitis i'm not sure what you can do for this other than rest and you know ice and massage and stretch and i'm like rest yeah i'm not gonna fucking do that so he's like yeah i know you're not he's like so we can stick some quarter zone in it and that might help i'm like yeah let's do that so i fucking load up on a quarter zone shot i was still gonna try to do that meet it felt great for like three days and then it just felt like shit again so i was like no i'm done so at that point i

totally switched my focus over to arm wrestling now i'm still maintaining you know my power lifting movements just i'm not squatting anymore i try to squat all the way up until a few weeks ago maybe like six weeks ago i'm finally now at a point mentally where i'm okay not squatting heavy weight because i just can't my hip just doesn't let me do it um so you know I do like hypertrophy work and squat on my squat day instead of actual squatting yeah and then I still pinch and I still deadlift and I still do standing overhead press um all at a pretty high intensity I just I just can't squat anymore and uh I've learned to accept that and squatting is never going to help me in arm wrestling anyway so whatever so I've kind of

totally embraced arm wrestling and this is kind of what i want to do and i love it and you know and again um i think i was only doing the powerlifting because i felt like i had to because i worked so hard at it for so long and built up you know everything i've done with my coaching and with my uh you know just my reputation and i just you know it was it was a part of me it's how i identified you know like what do you do i'm a fucking powerlifter like oh but what does that mean i'm like look me up dude like you know what i mean like sick numbers like it was just a part of me and i it was i think i had i felt like i had to continue doing it but you know i'm at a point now where i'm like you know that that was me that's what i love

it'll always be a part of me and i'll always do the training and always be involved in it but i just don't know if i'm there at a competitive level anymore that the guys are taking it to a new i mean we mean, we saw the showdown. You have fucking Thomas Davis just doing numbers. It's just insane. You know what I mean? And all these guys. There's multiple thousand-round damage attempts.

I must have solved three or four 600-pound benches and then a 700-pound bench. The numbers are just fucking ludicrous now. So it's kind of nice being on the coaching end of it i don't have to worry about it yeah i've been there like i know what they're going through it's it's uh it's miserable but it's worth it on the platform and you know you feel bad because someone like td who just did so great that mean smash it and then right when he was over and i was all excited for everything he's like yeah so the next one this is what I'm like, damn Couldn't enjoy it just for that. That's that's the way that that's how people get good at it though, too

You don't people don't get that that level just being like, all right, that's good enough Well, you got to be kind of stupid. Yeah Right and TV is obviously kind of stupid But again, he's going with an issue right now so i hope um you know i know he he went and got it right i know he's getting dialed so i hope uh he gets that mended up and he's able to continue and not not to go through some of the bullshit i went through you know i was a little smarter about it listen to chad and things like that i wouldn't be in the shoes of him right now probably you know but again here's what it is so um yeah so now full-blown arm wrestling that's all i fucking do i mean well i train arm wrestling six days a week i train on

the table every other week i uh uh still do power lifting four days a week without the squat it's just my hypertrophy squat or leg day and then you know i bench every Wednesday. I deadlift every Friday. I do overhead every Saturday, which is my routine. And then arm wrestling Monday through Saturday. Or arm wrestling work, arm work, to be more specific, like wrist and cup and stuff like that. So with arm wrestling has come new opportunity. And it wasn't that long ago. I signed up for my first tournament, which is in Utah at SitCon. Keaton, the muscle from Diesel Brothers, he's a friend of ours.

He's one of the owners, and I'm not sure how you would describe him, but one of the owners of that event, him and the Baileys. So he called me. He asked if I would go and be a part of it. I was like, absolutely. And then I saw there was an arm wrestling tournament,. I was like, absolutely. Then I saw there was an arm wrestling tournament. I was like, dude, can I not speak? Because he wanted me to speak on the stage and shit. I was like, you cannot speak because I really want to do this arm wrestling tournament.

He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want you here. I was like, fuck yeah. We went up there and I did that arm wrestling tournament. I ended up running through everyone, left hand and right hand. To say it was a huge tournament and a big turnout would be dishonest. I'm not also discrediting anyone that did show up uh it just um i was pretty happy for that my first tournament i was able to have a good run

and um you know get my confidence up and kind of see what tournament how a tournament goes and everything like that so i've done that i did well you got a little buzz in the arm wrestling community you know powerlifter converse, blah, that kind of shit. And then I got called out for a supermatch. So in arm wrestling, there's two styles of competition. There is tournaments, which are probably more common. And then there's supermatches, which are becoming much, much more common and more exciting. So a tournament is just what it is.

You know, you can have, you know, whatever show up type of bracket, person bracket whatever your battle up you go to the top as we all know in tournaments not always the best guy wins you can have a number one and the number two guy get sent up to each other early in the match and then get tired and then those guys will be eliminated you know i mean there's so many ways that things can change in a tournament so um you don't necessarily know who is the strongest and a tournament you just know who had the best day. So that's one way of competing in arm wrestling. And then there's super matches, which is you versus one other guy for the best of five or the best of six or seven, however it's set up, under what category of rules and all this stuff. Arm wrestling is still a little disorganized in terms of how it goes.

There's just a lot of federations, a lot of different rules, and there's not really a standard. There's no standard weight classes. Those can change per event. So there's a little disorganization, which I think is going to change as it's growing as rapidly as it is and the people that are involved and myself being involved as well and working with people to help make it better.

So that's how it is. You know what I mean? Supermatches are kind of like the cool thing. That's how you know who's the better arm wrestler in terms of one guy versus the other and things like that. So I get called out by Dave DePue, who is a powerlifter, arm strongman, and arm wrestler. He's been arm wrestling for like 15 years. He's out of Grindr Gym in San Diego. He asked me to come out there for his son's event, which is King of Cali,

and if I would like to be a celebrity match and arm wrestle him. And that kind of thing is my first super match. I was, you know, hella nervous. This guy has been doing it for a long time. I've gripped up with him. Maybe I've gripped up with him before. I don't remember. I just know his hand is super strong.

And, oh, my God, I was nervous as shit. So I go out there to San Diego. Did really well. Ran through him 3-0 no disrespect to Dave I just was definitely training hard and I took that shit very seriously and did everything I could to make sure I was prepared and to beat him

and that's what I did I ended up having an after point with everyone did really well pulling all the other guys and things like that so Larry Wheels maybe you guys don't know who he is but uh never heard of her so uh larry wheels has been uh been in arm wrestling for a little over two years now a little longer than i have and um you know he's had all the best

in the world out there training with him and to buy everyone's seen the videos that you can watch larry wheels i'm a huge Larry Wheels fan. I've always been a fan of Larry. He's just a genetic mutant. Can do whatever he wants and be one of the best at it. So that's why I've always respected the guy. Me and him have talked all over the years, and I've kind of been poking at him like,

yeah, let's get a match. Let's get a match. And he was in the States. And when he was in the States, I was trying to set up a match for me and him for when he was going to be on the West Coast. For those of you that know, there was in the States. And when he was in the States, I was trying to set up a match for me and him for when he was going to be on the West Coast. For those of you that know, there was a tragic accident. One of Larry's best friends, also a friend of mine, passed away. Black Tom Cruise.

It changed Larry's plans for being in the United States. And then he went back to Dubai because he wanted to be back where he was comfortable and things like that where he lived now. So I was like, oh, fuck. The match with me and Larry probably isn't going to happen know when am i ever gonna go to fucking dubai um and you know when's the next time he's gonna be in the states so uh you know that's kind of was in my head and then uh one morning i wake up and uh i'm fucking it's like i don't know it's like five in the morning taking a shit before i get up to coach i look at my phone i got dms from larry and uh he fucking uh asked me if i would

be interested in a match against him at King of the Table 2 which is one of his promotions out there in Dubai by far the biggest powerlifting event going on right now in the world in terms of spectators and things like that so I'm ecstatic I'm like fuck yeah man absolutely I couldn't believe it

it was so awesome now I don't remember how long ago this was a few months as you can imagine my training has don't remember how long ago this was a few months so as you can imagine my training has been insane recently getting ready for this match because uh it's an opportunity of a lifetime um i'm really thankful for larry for giving me this opportunity um i really started uh focusing more on my youtube channel as opposed to my instagram kind of where it's at for arm wrestling most most of the people on youtube not on instagram uh so um yeah i'm super ecstatic for that and i don't know i've just been training and

getting ready for that and here i am now i don't even know what else to say i know it's hard to get me to talk guys by all means well i mean you knocked through most of our questions for us is the good part there, I guess. Let me say this is last list, yo. Tell me some more. As you were talking to me, I was thinking of a few things. So where to start? My first one would be what does actual training for arm wrestling, like what does that look like?

So it's very boring, partial range of motion type movements keeping the arm at a 90 degree angle and beyond uh so you know us guys who have been lifting our entire lives well we never trained that top portion of the bicep or a wrist why the fuck would we so when we do a curl you know you're curling from the bottom and you carry momentum when you get to that 90 all the way up to the top so the top portion of the of the curl doesn't really get that much work in the way that we traditionally train um and then again when are you ever doing wrist rolls and riser and supination work on and pronation you just never do this these wrist movements um the traditional weight lifting so um again i've always had i've had a very strong back and a very strong arm because of all the lifting i've done but i'm not strong in the right

places in arm wrestling but i've learned obviously over the last year and a half that i've been training it so what it looks like is half rep bicep work um and then it looks like a ton of boring little wrist movements that if you didn't have a trained eye you would have no idea what's the difference in the one compared to the other that i'm doing uh for example it took me forever to um not long i'll say forever like i'm a uh for example it took me forever to um not long i'll say forever like i'm a fucking idiot but it took me a minute it definitely took me a minute to figure out the difference between like supinating and pronating and right like just just to call it quick right so i someone have to like i'd have to really look at it and analyze it but now you know it's just

second nature is what i do so um again riser work which basically means fucking lifting like if you're sitting there making a thumbs up like just lifting the fist up that's riser and that's like one of the most important things in our wrestling and then cup work which is literally just doing a wrist curl turning your wrist in basically and then supination would be like if you have your hand straight out it would be twisting your pinky up, like your palm and pinky up. That's supination. And then pronation is if your hand is straight out, turning your thumb so your thumb goes down, basically, and you're turning your wrist over. So, yeah, those are the four movements in – oh, was it three?

So those are the movements of arm wrestling that are very important to do. Again, you can be creative with it. There's all these, you know, very important to do. And, you know, it's, again, you can be creative with it. There's all these specialty handles and things like that to work. And in arm wrestling, they're all effective. They all work. It's just as simple as just creating tension in those areas. And then, you know, force is going to stimulate change. So people for like the actual, you know, like a lot of sports,

you have technique drills and stuff like do you have like when you're training the actual competition part of it? Do you have like drills and stuff that you run through or how does that go? Yeah. So this is going to change based off who you talk to because everyone has their own theories. I don't technically train that way. Like I don't do arm wrestling in the gym. Like I don't train like working, like grabbing the pulley and then bring it to the side and doing like I don't do arm wrestling in the gym like i don't train like working like grabbing the pulley and then bringing it to the side and doing like i don't train that i train like the individual

components of the arm wrestling um which has you know been talked to me like derrick smith uh who's someone i really respect in arm wrestling and a really smart guy so um that's kind of how i do it and then i get that actual technique training on the table so you can only recover from so much right and uh you get your ass kicked on their table like that you know you have to imagine how much harder and longer you can train in the gym because in the gym let's say you're working back pressure or riser someone's not just going to drop 80 pounds of pressure out of nowhere to the side like can happen on the table so in the gym you can you can train a lot harder than you can on the table table takes you a while to develop that conditioning to handle the work but yeah to answer your question there you know again i i don't do too much technique um training or uh drill work

as as you're asking but there are a lot of guys that do okay is it uh do you think it's harder to make it to the top of uh power lifting or to make it to the top of arm wrestling as a sport? Well, definitely powerlifting. I mean, like, yeah, like, again, I'm not, there's probably maybe a few arm wrestlers that are listening to this are like, fuck you, dude. But, like, arm wrestling is seriously, like, the training of arm wrestling, just in comparison to elite level powerlifting is easy, is much easier, right? Like, I've never puked from an arm wrestling just in comparison to elite level powerlifting is easy it's much easier right like um i've never puked from an arm wrestling workout i've never not been able to walk out of the gym like uh you know i mean i've never there's just so many it's just so different uh it's more of a consistent type thing like you can train arm wrestling six seven days a week there's small

muscles small breakdown small quick recovery as opposed to powerlifting. They're just too different. Again, a lot of this is going to come down to genetics too. If you have the genetics to be one of the world's strongest powerlifters, you're going to have the genetics to be one of the world's strongest arm wrestlers. It doesn't mean you're going to be the best arm wrestler, but you can be one of the strongest, right? So it all comes down to genetics in my opinion on all of it but i would have to say that uh again i'm nowhere near the top in arm

wrestling like i'm uh i'm just uh uh i don't know how you would even describe me i guess technically i'm pros i've done pro tournaments and shit like that but i would have to say i'm just like a fucking very low level pro guy you know i don't think i don't think yeah i don't think that makes sense uh do you think you get do you get any uh like is there any arm wrestles out there that are pissed off at you and i don't know if this is true or not but do you get any preferential treatment because you already had made a name for yourself in power lifting so you get like yeah so some people are like this fucking guy just started and i would kick kick his ass. I mean, how stupid it is. It's like a boxer bitching that half-thor got that big boxing promotion match.

He didn't get the fucking boxing promotion match because he's a great boxer. He got it because he's one of the world's strongest men. What he did in another sport, the cross burn over. He's got a following. People want to watch him. Neither me or Larry are phenomenal arm arm wrestlers but we're so strong we can beat a lot of guys because of our strengths and then you know they want to see the two big fucking meatheads go against each other who have similar experience levels and um you

know what i mean and similar me and larry were you know very close to each other's strength and powerlifting i obviously did more weight than he's done, but I'm also 80 pounds bigger than he was. And I think I'm pretty sure Larry crushed my numbers in sleeves because I had never done a big meet in sleeves because when I was competing, all the big money meets were in wraps. And then when Larry did Kern, he was the only, him and Foster Parnell were the only ones that do it in sleeves. So again, if Larry had done Kern in wraps,

that would have been a great comparison against us to see who was overall better strength at that time. Right. But again, that just wasn't the case. So again, we're very close in strength in terms of the powerlifting. He's probably definitely stronger than me now. He's just more weight than I am. That's for sure. I'm more weight than I do. But you know, in terms of arm wrestling, weight than i do um but uh you know in terms of arm wrestling we're just going to see you know it's who's the most who's just who's going to be able to use other strengths to get them but yeah you know it's weird in arm wrestling i already

i've already noticed it people that used to like talk to me and reach out now they as soon as i got my match with larry they fucking you know don't respond to messages and shit anymore i'm like oh that's weird yeah yeah these aren't like the super elite guys the super elite guys are all cool as fuck so happy that we're involved they're like yeah good it's more exposure for arm wrestling like that's good yeah they're all super cool it's the people that make that are probably busy you know a little more comparing themselves to you and thinking like why didn't i get the match up there well because you've been arm wrestling for fucking 10 years and you haven't squatted a,008 fucking pounds yet.

Yeah. All right. You know what I mean? Yeah, you talked about some other changes and stuff that you owned the gym and sold that. Is there any part of you that misses owning the gym or is that a relief to not have that anymore? Yes and yes.

COVID was a fucking nightmare for us out here in Nevada. It still is. They're still fucking making you wear masks and shit. It's insane. We have a bitch-ass governor who follows anything Newsom does, but no one can come into the gym. And then the other half of the country is terrified to even leave the house. It's just the gyms didn't make sense to have anymore. And to be honest, the gyms didn't make us much money. They paid the bills. But it gives you a place to make money at in terms of coaching.

And it's just fun you know to have a big gym and when people are in town they want to come see you meet up in the gym and uh you know hold events when there's events in town um so that you know that's what's cool about being in vegas you know what i mean just a lot of people come to town throughout the year and you run an event during those events to capitalize on them and you get everyone together in one little gym so yeah do i miss that part for sure absolutely but do i miss like the fucking headaches the text at three in the morning about there's no fucking toilet paper or yeah like you just you can imagine your biggest service 24 hours so you can imagine

the dumb shit you have to deal with yeah i believe that how about uh podcast wise you know i we always enjoyed uh listening to the broadcast and and you're out of that now. You don't do that anymore. Do you miss podcasting regularly at all? Oh, absolutely. I love podcasting. Well, I mean, I know you guys are going to have a hard time believing this, but I love talking. I think I'm funny and hilarious, so I like talking.

So, yeah, I definitely miss podcasting. Me and Andy just kind of went our own ways and did our own thing. He ended up joining up with John Hack on that. Whatever. I don't know. I don't know. You guys can do whatever they want to do. That's their own ride.

I've had plans of doing podcasts. It's just been weird. It's a weird time. The more content you put out, the more you give ammo to the people that hate you to use it against you. I love to talk shit. A lot of my shit talking is taken out of context. Sometimes podcasts get a little nerve-wracking, right? I've wanted to do it.

I've wanted to start another podcast. What do I do? I don't know. I'm not deep into powerlifting anymore. I'm not, you know, a well-known arm wrestler anymore where people would care what my pain is in arm wrestling just quite yet. So I don't know. You know what I mean?

I'm in a weird little limbo spot. But I would be lying if I said that podcasting is not something that I plan on continuing doing in the near future. That's cool. Yeah, I would love to do another podcast. And again, I've been on a few podcasts actually recently it's been kind of cool i've uh uh tom and tom huck huck finn and uh tom callousy yeah that was fun um you know i've done uh one in ireland several in australia i have an australian podcast coming up on Friday. That's an arm wrestling one. That'll be my first arm

wrestling podcast. I love... Imagine what the community is going to think when they hear me talk. A lot of your listeners, maybe if they're listening to this podcast because I'm on it, they know how I am. Right. They do. This arm wrestling community has no idea.

Who the fuck is this guy? No, that's good. Easy nod. I don't know. Yeah. I like to keep question marks. Brandon, we've got this little game called Overrated Underrated that we like to play with everyone that we've got on the podcast. And we've got a special Brandon Allen set of overrated underrated topics.

And we'll fire them over to you. And it's just your job to decide if they're over overrated underrated topics and we'll fire them over to you and it's just your job to decide if they're overrated or underrated you can elaborate on it as much or as little as you want to you just can't ride the line in between you got to decide for sure whether it's overrated underrated so are you ready to rock and roll alright overrated or underrated

over the top the movie underrated that's a great fucking movie. I think everyone needs to watch it. Yeah. It is the arm wrestling movie, right? It's just a classic late 80s, early 90s style movie. Have you watched it recently and been like, oh, he's not doing any real technique?

Can you analyze it from an arm wrestling perspective now? Oh, totally. You know what's amazing is that that was a real tournament and those are real art arm wrestlers in those tournaments so i know those guys now okay that's cool so it's cool to see and um you were like holy shit there's fucking alan fisher there's john brazini who i don't know personally but yeah john have you ever watched pulling john before oh absolutely that was when my when i went on that youtube kick when I had the gyno surgery, I probably watched that two or three times over the top is kind of the, uh, arm wrestling movie that people know everyone knows, but pulling John is really the, it's good.

I don't know where you see if it's on YouTube or where you can catch. Okay. Yeah. It's a, it's worth for anyone listening to this that if you think arm wrestling is cool to any degree or whatever like watching pulling John is that's a cool move documentary real quick on that for those that

you have seen one John know it is it's about John the greatest arm wrestler ever lived who's an American who has been retired for five or six years now who has now come out of retirement who is smashing young guns on his way up. He will be in Dubai competing against Devin Larratt at

my event when I pull Larry Ruse. What does John wave? He's not an enormous man. He might be bigger than you think. I believe he's like 6'2". I wasn't thinking he was that tall. I believe he's like below 200s. Okay, yeah, I wasn't thinking he was that tall, too. I believe he's like

below 200s, and I just know he has an enormous hand. Yeah, right. Pulling John, that's a must-watch, though. Pulling John, absolutely. If you're interested in arm wrestling, check out Pulling John. You'll be in love after that. If not, you're probably somewhere else.

Okay, overrated or underrated Harley Davidsons? Oh, well, shit. I love Harleys, but you're probably something wrong okay overrated or underrated harley davidson's oh well ah shit i love harley's but i've got a fat i've had a fat boy for like 10 years um but i just wanted your opinion now after the accident and stuff if it's changed at all no i still love them i don't know how to uh word it i guess i don't want to be a toe on the line but i think they're awesome i love them i don't know that they're underrated so i think a lot of people think they're awesome yeah yeah i was thinking about that question from my own perspective it's tough because if someone says name a motorcycle brand yeah i'm gonna say harley

davidson you know right and um i wouldn't even buy a different bike you know i mean the only thing i'd say is uh you know the harley davidson like they have the the the v you know the v twin look like there's you always know a harley when you see it like they're it's like the most iconic looks it cut when it comes to that sort of thing but in the american-made motorcycle market like indian motorcycle is doing pretty cool making pretty cool bikes now and that's just okay okay so okay yes they're overrated as fuck there's way better options out there i just don't want to walk out of the bar and have loogies all over my car and that's what i like i still i i just especially over the last

few years indian motorcycles have really like started to you know and i see more and more of them all the time too and uh you seem like a colonizer you would like an indian well so so we're we're in uh western northeast south dakota sturgis is uh not too far from us so um sometime maybe you'll have to make it to the sturgis motorcycle rally i feel like it'd be a i'd love to yeah we've been wanting it for years I've been I hear it's been pretty like commercialized oh yeah oh yeah there's still I mean you can find or not find as crazy as shit as you want to yeah you can you can make whatever you want out of it yeah right you can okay so you still get coke in the bathroom oh certainly like there's all these different that's kind of the funny thing about it now is it is pretty commercialized and also like every doctor and banker and lawyer also owns a Harley you know so like that's kind of the funny thing about it now is it is pretty commercialized and also like every doctor and banker and lawyer also owns a Harley, you know, so like that's half of the

people that are there, but then there's also like, you know, the hell's angels are all also there and all that shit's going on too. So it's kind of a unique, uh, melting pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Uh, so you, but do you, could you, would you ride a motorcycle still do you still do you have one or well yeah i mean you know uh or do i ride currently no i've been wanting to get a bike recently um i've kind of been poking at the wife a little bit about it and uh you know i've been showing her like oh look at this i want to get this road team this one yeah where we live now we live in boulder city which is out of las vegas we live in a like uh we live on lake need which is the city that built the hoover dam basically so we're out of vegas now i'm like we live now, we live in Boulder City, which is out of Las Vegas. We live on Lake Mead, which is the city that built the Hoover Dam, basically. So we're out of Vegas now.

We live in the desert. There's really not much around here. I hardly ever go to Vegas. The way I was convincing her was that I'm only going to ride out here and this and that. And then she's like, okay. But I have buddies that are HA and shit like that. And she knows that okay but you know i have buddies that are ha and shit like that and you know she knows that you know as soon as one of your buddies wants to fucking go for a ride in town you're gonna go right down and she's right you know what i mean

and um again so i'm i think i don't know that i would survive another crash like i did right so maybe it's better to stay off it you know what's fucking what's interesting is that we've been she's been our neighbor has a badass c10 um you know a silver uh chevy uh've been, she's been, our neighbor has a bad-ass C10, you know, a silver Chevy C10. And she's like, Oh shit, why don't we do something like that? I'm like,

Oh shit. Okay. So, you know, maybe a truck, a little truck might be safer than a bike, but you know, I would love to get back on a bike in a perfect world.

You know, I ended up moving out even further in the middle of the desert. Like I want to, and then I'll get a bike again to where I'm not around any traffic. And I can ride freely much more. Right on. Overrated or underrated Larry Wheels? Can you be more specific or you just mean in general?

You can take it out where you want. Yeah, right. Shit, I don't know. I think he's... Walt, you motherfucker. We're just gonna cut whatever sound bite sounds the most interesting out of what you're saying and remember how you said people take it out of context that's what we'll try to do like i'm just direct like way to reality i was like hey so i told the story was i fuck that dude yeah yeah um i think that larry is underrated in his ability to in terms of strength to be able to do i mean bro name another um you know world champion pro power to

whatever you want to call him uh you know strongman bodybuilder you know like name someone else that can do what he does like there's very few people that are genetic mutants like that and then have the dedication to i mean when have you ever seen larry do something fun you know i mean that guy all he does is he's always in the fucking gym training doing some kind of training so i don't know honestly i think he's underrated i'm not just saying that because it's why i'm going to buy thank you larry um but uh i honestly do i honestly think he's underrated in a lot of aspects because to say that he's overrated would mean that everyone's just talking

about how much of a mutant phenom he is and everything, which I think that's not the case. Maybe it's just because I'm more hyper aware because I get a lot of hate, so I see the hate more, maybe. I don't know. You're aware people hate on him. You're not even their hater. Maybe I see a lot of haters, and that's probably why

I say that, but I definitely would say underrated. I don't think he's overrated. This is the last one now. This one's kind of worth all the marbles. Everything comes down to this one. Overrated or underrated edibles? Overrated. Tell us about it.

Fuck you. Eat too much. You don't fucking know exactly what i'm talking about so like you get to the level of pop consumption that i'm at where like i rip dabs all day so uh my tolerance is like stupid high and um so to even edible to get a fucking feeling it requires a high mouth and there's no, there's no balance or medium, you know, like if I eat like even a hundred milligram edible, which would melt. It won't really do anything to me other than just give me a really bad cotton mouth.

Really feel stoned or anything. Now with that, a 500 milligram edible. Okay. Now I'm fucking putting, um, fucking newspaper on the windows because there's little crack i don't want people to see it i'm crying all the time i want the neighbors to see

me i just get terrified you know i'm staring at a glass of water scared to pick it up because i don't want the dog to see me through because i was like you're my dog you can't fucking use a little out of it for a decade We eat too many fucking edibles. I did like, though, that the steps were 100 and then 500. I mean, who goes in between? I could never get over it in a butt. Terrible with fucking moderation. So overrated, then, for sure, on that one. I think they're fucking overrated oh let's have an edible

go to the movie why to have cotton off or to be paranoid you know i'd rather rip a couple dabs where i can control the high it's instant i know like okay i'm dead or oh no i can have another one or edible is like i think i'm good i mean you're fucking driving you're like why is everyone speeding you're going 40 on the going 40 all right good stuff well good news brandon i think you passed overrated underrated oh fuck yeah that's what i've been i mean we know we know you were worried about it so we don't know we just make it up yeah all right no that's cool we we appreciate it having you on was awesome and

so you're are you still coaching power lifters are you taking uh oh yeah yeah i'm still balls deep in coaching powerlifting that's fucking what i'm doing all day formulating and writing programs for people i love it um you know i get a kick out i coach out of my garage uh i i sold the big gym and we closed my little gym and uh moved that into my garage so my clients come to the house and train them out of here i love that stuff it's a lot of fun if you're interested in uh programming by me uh easiest way to get a hold of you is on instagram shoot me a dm we'll make something happen if you live in the las vegas area and you want one-on-one coaching i can train you out of my house in Boulder City or at Sin City Iron.

Just shoot me a DM and we'll get you dialed. Right on. That's cool. We appreciate getting you on. This was fun stuff. Keep rocking that Curlz shirt. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. I fucking, when I was picking out my gym gear today,

I was like, oh, dude, a mass anonymous. I got to rock this shirt, man. Just to get my hug going. It was weird. I had it retching the entire time. No, that's normal. That's actually usually what happens. Oh, cool.

So I'm not alone in this. Nope. Nope. That's everyone. Even women. Fuck yeah, dude. It's great. When I had a boner at the gym, I put it up looking at me.

I might have screwed a little on the bottom of the shirt. Where was that boner when you needed it in the hospital that day? Right? Fucking A, dude. It wouldn't even chub all right thanks good stuff brandon thanks a lot brandon i appreciate the opportunity guys take care yep see ya tanner what do you give them double cool beans double cool beans for big brandon You know what else is cool beans, Tommy? What? Texas power bars. Buddy Caps first started lifting weights in the late 60s.

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made a few cart massonomics cartoons before and they it always really catches you off guard when you see one of those pop up in the field you'll wait does that say massonomics yeah like martine's comment on there he's like what is this i don't get it none of this makes sense hopefully i was hoping that was going to be a stepping stone into getting him on the podcast uh i see oh the perfect icebreaker yeah he won the rogue invitational this uh last week we didn't talk about at all. How could we talk about that with all this stuff we got to talk about? So much things going on.

Yeah, help us get our teens on the podcast. You know, add him to the list of people we're trying to get on the podcast that you can help us out with. Oh, that's a hell of an episode, isn't it, Tommy? It was a hell of an episode. I just thought of one other thing, Tanner, that I thought was really funny. Former podcast guest, mikey may be maybe maybe maybe good point he has a very funny contest going on the ego lift contest yep and man if there's a person that should be having that

contest that is him it'd be a dangerous one i wouldn't want to for liability reasons i wouldn't want to be taking out the one taking on that contest, although it's probably hard to pinpoint things like that. Put a disclaimer line on it. It sounds good. Yes, yes. But, yeah, I'm very interested. I'm following along with that to see what people come up with.

I think the world's following along. I've seen a few other Masonomics supporters getting involved in that contest as well. So maybe if you didn't win here, that's next opportunity that's a little bit more difficult i think a little more physical insertion than ours but yeah interesting to follow along with that and see how it goes was there anything else we need to hit on this week i think the big thing is make sure you go online and buy the drink spotter yeah while you still can do you think though do you think those could be sold out? If those are sold out already,

we're throwing a freaking party. Yeah. I'll put that to put that in perspective. If we can sell out of these, then yeah, we will have some insane, like we'll just give stuff away. We will.

Yes. And you can hold us to that. We will, we'll have like, all right, 25, 30% off the entire website yeah i think we'll do so included if we happen to have sold out of these and uh well when would we so we were saying

by like oh next week yeah yeah we'll do well if we sell out of these by next week we'll give away one thousand dollars how about that oh i'm yeah i i have no problem with that yeah we go through it, we will do a thousand dollar giveaway and we'll get ones and send a, we'll get a briefcase. We'll do a whole thing. If we sell all of these in a week, it would be insane. So I hope we do that. Something to look forward to. Yeah.

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There might still be some around in some sizes. There honestly might be just a couple left because quite a few did sell tonight already. Get one of those if you want. Yeah, if you want like that, it will go away. And it's going away. Probably never to return, would you say, right? It was on the website for about a month and a half last year,

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Snatch it up. Otherwise, yeah, just buy a couple drink spiders for you, your loved ones. Great Christmas gift. Imagine this as a stocking stuffer. That would be a, otherwise yeah just buy a couple drink spiders for you your loved ones great christmas gift imagine this as a stocking stuffer that would be a not only is it a cool gift it also works as a gig gift i think a real gift my kids would love having one of these under the tree what kid wouldn't love one of those give that to me in third grade man my christmas that n64 doesn't

look so good anymore my son would be like dad is this one of those things that's been sitting in the garage for the last few months i don't want one of those like what would i do with that it doesn't even light up i thought i thought it was a nintendo switch uh like us on youtube everywhere and anywhere tommy where do they find you you can find me at tomahawk underscore d you can follow me at tanner underscore bear just make sure to follow massonomics at massonomics see ya