Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 302: Let's Get Stupid

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

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Okay, Tommy. Where do we start on this one? We'll start with the lighthearted stuff first. Are you keeping up on the latest TV phenomenon, Tanner? Tiger King? No, not that one. Euphoria is back, and I guess that's what everyone talks about. I've heard of that. I've never watched it. And I guess that's what everyone talks about.

I've heard of that. I've never watched it. Actually, I've seen like part of one episode. But not only have I not watched that, outside of seeing it in the name and one meme today, I've never even heard of it. Really? I've never heard that.

Until you saying that in this moment right now, I didn't even know what that meant when I saw that meme that talked about euphoria. And not only until now do I understand that that was a tv show for a guy that spends a lot of time on the internet tanner i kind of feel like you're under some internet rock sometimes yeah but i'm in a very very narrow blinders are up yeah okay it's a very very narrow scope of the internet yeah i just noticed a lot of buzz about it so is it on netflix or it's hbo i think they said it's like they're i think it said like the uh the season two came out like was it sunday night and it was their biggest like premiere for a show ever i never even heard about bigger than game of thrones even really wow that's shocking but it's not tv though it's hbo home box episode also brought brought to

you by hbo it's not TV anymore. It's HBO. I kind of assumed you weren't watching Euphoria. I don't know what it's about even. I'm not even exaggerating in the slightest. It's just like high school kids just doing drugs and having sex and going to parties. Who hasn't been there before? I don't need a show to tell me that.

I lived it. I was there. Oh, you're thinking dazed and confused there we go i have seen that actually yeah you should have just called it dazed and confused massey mcconaughey the one with ben affleck and the paddles yeah that's the one yeah yeah yeah they're trying to initiate people for the whole show plays the younger kid the freshman though um i don't know who that i know i know who you're talking about i don't know who that is third rock from the sun i never watched that show you've heard of third oh i know yeah i know what you're talking about i've never watched that show um better show i think than euphoria third rock from the sun

that might be debatable i think that was the plot was the it was a family of martians that came and they had to assume yeah i mean it was a it was a family of Martians that came, and they had to assemble. Yeah. I mean, it was a comedy. Yeah. But I think they were aliens, but they were here on Earth, and then they had to. Oh.

Because the dad was very like. The dad was. Did he have a tall, pointy head? No, that's the cone heads. Can we just keep like. He just liked to chew on condoms for fun. Can we just keep... Butchering tines. On the road of things that don't make sense.

And their son, he had magical powers and he went to a wizard school. Instead of the seven degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon, we can take and mutate anything anything into like seven degrees away from anything that we make up okay so no i haven't seen you for all right i have seen third rock from the sun i haven't seen cone heads in the last at least 25 years i haven't either i i like saw that when i was very little dan akroyd's and i think inhead. Chris Farley's in it too. Okay.

He's the, he's the boyfriend to the daughter. Okay. I do remember that one actually. I probably haven't seen it since I was like middle school. I would guess. Yeah. It's been longer than that since I've seen it. Gotta get it on the list.

Right. Okay. So you haven't watched Euphoria though either? I've seen like part of an episode but yeah okay that's it okay um okay well i guess we covered all the media then you've been watching more john wilson have you made any further than that not much we i i definitely it's on my list and we got some other people in our circle watching it now too okay to talk about it and it's a great show i definitely recommend that i but i love that uh you know

that's right up my alley for sure yeah that's a home run to me it is a home run uh the only problem with those shows is like there's never enough of i know it's like why don't they make more nathan for you actually i i i almost wonder if they just run out of like if he gets too big he's a victim of his own success right guess what i was all excited this week like borat you know how much longer could borat be borat and it's like yeah everyone knows this stick i give it a little time though and i think maybe he's okay on i was i don't even know what podcast i was watching a podcast or youtube video the other day oh yeah i was listening to a podcast and someone said my wife oh borat nice and i'm like oh i don't hear too many call outs to that anymore yeah outside of this but there's nowhere right now that i think borat is

more relevant than right here on the mass dynamics podcast it might be the the epicenter of borat relevance in the world right i actually full disclosure i did watch borat like in the last month did you really was i saw it on something and i'm like you know i haven't seen that legitimately in like 20 years or something. So I'm like, I'm going to watch it. You know, I think it really still holds up. I need to watch it. You know the part, and you obviously know, I just kind of had forgotten about it.

But when he's on the bus with the college kids. Yeah. Oof. How does that work? Do they have to give their permission to be on the movie because there is no way those guys should have allowed that i think they signed off i'm pretty sure what happens is they sign off before they say we're filming a thing like or film like they're probably presented it under a different context than what's actually happening but i think they

said like hey we're filming can we film this while it takes i mean that had to have ruined those guys life i think it kind of did i think it had two problems and if it was like as of today oh today like you would be like like those guys would be like in prison i mean yeah oh yeah you might as well just never play i would think even today though if you're one of those guys you don't almost do anything and you'd be like oh are you weren't you the guy from borat where it was like awful yeah yeah but the rest of the movie very funny yeah yes uh let's see i trade ipod mini is that what uh might his neighbor yeah whatever his name is yeah nobody like him uh tanner um just i've noticed you know as you get older just nothing seems to go your way as i

get older as you get older like borderline submasters here what day is it i just got uh only a certain number of days left on full-on you are pretty close there i i was walking home you know i'm in a bowling league i'm a pretty avid bowler as everyone you're kind of a bowling guy i'm a pretty serious bowling competitor and walking home from my bowling league thursday night because i do live pretty close to the bowling alley and uh that was the day it was like what negative 35 outside you're like a stone throw from the basically a stone so yeah and it was really freaking cold that night yeah and i was walking and after a while i'm like i'm basically home i'm crossing the street let's i'm crossing the street there's a little

snow bank let's pick up the pace a little bit and i go do do do third step bam i hit the ground so hard like was it like oh it like my my wife was asking did you how did you catch yourself i'm like i didn't catch anything i hit the ground so hard and so I'm like laying in the gutter on the street because that's just where I ended up in this pile of ice and snow. And I'm like, God, God damn it, really falling down now. And so I scurry my way home and I get in and I'm just thinking, whew, that could have been a lot worse. I'm glad that didn't go that way. And then I woke up at three in the morning and I thought I woke up because I thought someone like slammed a hammer on my wrist. It hurts so bad. And then I'm laying there and you're doing the thing where you're just getting

so mad in your head because you're like yep it's broken I need to go in for x-rays I'm not going to be able to lift for like a month and a half like life is going to get really bad all of a sudden I sit at a computer typing all day this is just gonna make everything shitty so the next morning I got up I bought a wrist, wore that damn thing for like two straight days. And then I thought, you know what? I think I'm going to come out of it. It still hurts, but I'm happy to report that I was, I was able to squat today. So I can't, I can't go into something. I can't go into pushup position yet. That's still not there, but I could squat. Slips, trips, and falls are the leading cause of lost time in the workplace.

I think it's also something that happens when you get older is falling on the ice and you hurt yourself. Oh, that's what old people do. Yeah. That's what I did, I guess. Hashtag masters. It's coming in hot. Hashtag scamps. It's unavoidable.

You know what else we did this weekend, Tommy? Oh, I know exactly what we did this weekend. We had ourselves a little par-tay. We did. And it was a good time. Speaking of things that happen when you get older, I felt so awful on Sunday. The day after.

And I thought, this is the worst I've felt in a very long time. I actually was fortunate enough to be able to sleep in until about 830. And I felt pretty damn good that day. I drank a lot of beers, that's for sure. I didn't take any shots or anything, so that worked out in my favor. But I didn't feel great, but I thought a lot better than I thought I was going to. So if you haven't picked up on it by now, we're talking about, of course the massonomics gym party that, uh,

this was the fourth one we've had. We've had skipped the last couple of years, but this was our first one for the last few years. And we had it in my garage this time. First time in that particular venue, we, it was a great venue for it. It worked.

I think it worked pretty well. Like, and we didn't have to rent out to another place, which is, and worry about cleaning it the next day i mean i still had to clean it but i mean like to someone else's right right you know but the cleaning it the next day was still very i was like was it stinky in there not too bad like the house after your uh well back in the first couple gym parties we were like playing like

beer pong and tippy cup and much more stinky like half of every beer is getting spilled on the floor um but we did have a good crowd you know we gave away a bunch of the very limited uh royal blue massonomics gym tees which i forgot to grab mine oh yeah you still got to get one well there's we still got some so um we have not ever released those to anyone to buy because those have just been actual gym member exclusives, but who knows? Maybe if there's some leftover,

we'll pop them on, uh, for sale for just a couple, a few, a few to sell there. Um, there was some people, we,

it went into the wee hours of the night. So it was because we show up and we had pizza and we ate a lot of pizza. And I think you made the comment like damn you don't realize how many pizzas like this many people can plow through that's i hadn't even gone up to i had and i went i'm like all the pizza's gone and then it was there was like uh two layers because that was my first thought there was like four or five untouched pizzas then i'm like oh thank god and that was my first thought because i got everyone else kind of went through the line and by the time i got through i thought whoa there's nothing left

and then you said oh no no i found some more here so yeah then i then i went through a couple more times but right but it was the next morning the only thing there was half of one slice of pretzel pizza is that all left yeah yeah so the numbers worked out pretty good there but yeah it was a relatively tame party you know people were talking catching up you know being part of the noon crew i hardly see any of these guys anymore so got to reminisce about the old nighttime crew back in the day so that was kind of fun and then i want to say it was about nine o'clock the numbers really dropped they did and i think we all kind of the remaining few looked around like is this what's, is this what's happening? Is this what's going on? But then that crew from 9 on was there for the night. We pulled the larger group was there for maybe three hours.

So then the small group of us was there for like five more hours. Because we stayed, was it about 1.30ish? Yeah, I think it was about 1.30. And we pretty much all hunkered down around a table and just sat and drank and drank and talked about stuff. Yeah. There was a lot. So, Caden.

Yes. Caden. Big Caden. Member of the gym. The token 21-year-old that was there. Well, what I would say is I got like 35-year-old drunk drunk but Caden got 21 year old oh and I totally forget when you are 21 MVP of the party he was the MVP when you're 21 drinking is like it is a thing man like we are going for it and you also forget when you were 21 it wasn't just one person

doing that it was everyone was acting like that yep and it was, and we had like Ross and some people really getting him going to, you know, like pushing him. So it was, it was really funny to watch. He put down a solid 12 pack of twisted teas. I didn't know people put down 12 twisted teas. I didn't know that was a thing. And then like he drank all, he brought a 12 pack of twisted tea, drank all of those. And then every time I looked over, you know the little shooters of Fireball and everything?

He was doing another one of those. He probably polished off at least six of those. And then he started drinking Bush Lights. We had some of those in front of us. It was an impressive performance. Yeah, he did end up with a bloody nose. Someone told him he there was uh something about push-ups and he started doing push-ups and i think he may have went down too

far and hit his nose on the ground and had a bloody nose from it and and there was a lot of talk as does these things go about who can bench more and getting people riled up who's stronger which is the best drunk conversation people get really especially at a gym party yeah when people get really passionate about who is stronger uh that that's oh i love those conversations they're so funny it was fun so it's gym party well i mean i guess we'll have one another year my thing was if nobody shows up i guess this will be the last one but i think there was good enough turnout there was it must go on to push it another year maybe we'll do an interim party like in the summer oh i think that'd be a good idea it was pretty fun

and yeah the way we did it it was pretty manageable i'd be totally down for a summer party yeah then there's nothing to clean up besides garbage that's true you know that's even better you don't have to worry about the worst part about having my garage you know i had to spend like three hours prior cleaning it up and stuff you know making it was. In the yard, you can just literally throw a case of beer and say, go nuts, people. I'd be like, go get them, Caden. Go, shoo. No Discord members showed up that weren't gym members.

The invitation was open. A little disappointed about that. We saw a lot of Google Map screenshots. A surprising number of people live 20 plus hours away almost everyone which seems like it's almost hard to do when you're not on one of the coasts but we're a geographical oddity 20 hours away from everything that's just how we do tanner uh did you know this podcast is brought to you by a certain sponsor tell me more this podcast is brought to you by spud inc and the squat max padded overachieve adjustable hip belt are you with me are you following so far so good the overachieve adjustable

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Yeah, real quick one. Okay. You already saw it. I have mine in this, but this is yours. This is courtesy of The Strength Co. Yeah. It is a hat. So there was some confusion around this.

So it turns out you can buy their hats. It's their cats. You can't buy it. It's the cats that the rule goes on. Grant said he couldn't round up any feral cats of those feral cats to send us that he was talking about. So just for now, at least the hats. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess.

But I busted out mine at the mass economics gym party yeah my melon's too big i gotta adjust this yeah yeah i'm to the kind of a kind of a big head guy a little bit sort of a sort of a big head guy over here yeah i usually am like on the last couple on those and there's people with way bigger head than me that i don't know how some people even wear hats at all i think i think some people just don't that's i guess i'm trying to think that's i think i've seen a guy without a hat on before i threw put one of them on and uh threw back some twisted teas this weekend and why was it good it's uh it's kind of like the uniform of partying right yeah twisted tea now sponsoring the massonomics podcast tanner do you well thank you thank you strength co for this beautiful hat maybe we should do

talk about supporting our supporting uh oh yeah yeah yeah for sure do that while while they're still with us um before they go to a better place so supporting our supporting members great segment we've got and what this is if you're you're new to supporting our supporting members we have the massonomics podcast supporting members and uh that's a a community of uh people that have chosen to support the massonomics podcast uh monetarily emotionally physically mostly financially mostly financially uh and they get a lot of benefits from supporting us one of them is they get to be on our discord community they get to tell their family members and co-workers that they're a part of it yeah there's a discount code out there a whole bunch of other stuff but one of the more recent developments is they have the special segment dedicated to them each week

called supporting our supporting members where we highlight a few of them that are doing something or their personal accomplishments yeah so this week big keith honeycutt we wanted to support him because he was featured in garage gym competition they did a post about him today and a write-up on him about him and his gym that he's got going on, he does have a really, really awesome gym. It's the No Wine Cellar. Go check it out. Check out that post on Garage Gym Competition. Don't miss it.

The other thing I would mention supporting our supporting members, Big Brandon signed up for now our highest level this last week of supporting membership. And because it's the highest level, he was able to name it the pierogi level. The $50 level. That is the crowning achievement. Yes, so if you want to do it, if someone wants to do $100 a month supporting level, we will allow you to name that. We will not be the ones to stop you.

Almost nothing is off limits for the name. We will not stop anyone from achieving their goals yes in that in the race for the biggest supporting member level so that's supporting our supporting members thank you supporting members and if anyone else wants to know uh more about the discord community it's a very active community i would mention you can very active just hop on our site what's the or, or a specific? For this one, oh yeah, massanomics.com slash join. Okay. Yep, it'll take you right to the sign-up page.

Enter in your info. You'll get a little email with an invite. And then you're ready to party. And it's all history from there. Tanner, do you want to play a little game? Just a little game. Not a big game, just a little game not a big game but a little game okay and for this week again it's for sure not uh the it's i can't tell you what it is until you

say yes or no okay it could be kind of saw-ish but it might not be i'm hoping again for not saw okay okay so this is our second ever installment of Tanner Explains the Midwest. I got a lot of good feedback on this one. A lot of people that said, I really hope that this sticks around for a while. Well, it's going to stick around. Midwest intensifies. For at least a little bit. For people that are not familiar with this segment, in this segment,

I bring up several Midwest topics, vocabulary, cultural items and tanner tries to break it down for the people that are not locals put it in layman's terms put it in layman's terms all the normies that are more coastal some of these things are midwest specific some of these are pretty south dakota specific some of these are maybe even aberdeen specific western northeast south dakota specific so it's just a little taste of our part of the world over here yes are you ready to play tanner oh i've just been so ready right now okay i've been ready all week i'm excited because this week it's only the second week and i already like to say that this is a special edition of the game already our second week in a very special all right very

special version of the game for our second week i I like where this is headed. The theme of tonight's show is Tanner Explains the Midwest, Vague Geography Edition. Oh, okay. Okay. Are you ready to play? Yeah. My gears are turning. First question, where are the hills and what are they?

Ah, the hills. That's somewhere when you live in our area, that's where you go recreationally for a number of reasons. Maybe it's just vacation. It's a getaway. And the hills, when someone's going to the hills, they're going to the Black Hills of southwestern South Dakota. It's where Mount Rushmore is in the Black Hills, the Sturgis.

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. Sturgis itself is. It's kind of like right at the foothills of the hills. But you drive. But Rapid City would be one of the, you know, is the largest town. Yeah. Historic Deadwood. Spearfish.

It's the hills. It's the hills. But that's what. If someone's going to the hills, they're usually going there on a weekend they're probably going to deadwood or rapid city maybe they're going skiing at terry peak uh but that's where they're headed the black hills all right you passed the hills themselves are not black it's more of the appearance at a distance all the uh coniferous trees give the grow yeah they look right yeah yeah i've never got the impression that it's black when i'm out there i don't even know if i've really got the impression of from a distance that it's

that black looking yeah but i must i probably don't get out to the right spots okay you have to take a look next time you're at the hills question number two vague geography edition of tanner explains the midwest what is the river oh the river This actually goes back to last week's episode a little bit where we talked about whether you are West River or East River. So the river, if you're in South Dakota, is the Missouri River. There are many other rivers. Local to us would be the James River, which is not an insignificant river. But if someone says the river, that means they're going to the Missouri River.

So like maybe out to pier would be a common place or uh that's about the center of the state or more northern would be mow bridge more southern would be chamberlain or more resort uh i should say more fishing destination akaska akaska yep um so that's uh okoma you know there's a few different ones but and a lot of times you're out there uh walleye or you're out there, uh, walleye or you're fishing at the river. I don't, I'm not a big fisherman myself, but I've never fished on it ever. But if you are, people, a lot of people travel to the Missouri river, AKA in this case, the

river to go fishing. I mean, I think that that's what else do you do on the river? I suppose you could go swimming or something, i don't know if i mean people do but i don't think that they make a trip out there to go swimming like they make a trip to go fishing right right i think so okay so you pass that one too good okay question number three vague geography edition of tanner explains the midwest what are the cities the cities again these are all good i get the theme here vague yeah vague geography so the cities if you're so if people aren't paying attention so far we've covered the hills the

river now we're talking the cities yeah so for the hills and the river we're all we're headed west now to the cities we're going east to minneapolis st paul are the twin cities or more commonly known around here the The Cities. So if you're going to the cities, you're headed east about a five-hour drive. Is that about right? For us, yeah, about five hours. From western east, northeast South Dakota to get to the cities.

And that's, of course, if you're going to go to a Vikings game, a Twins game, a Wild game, go to the Mall of America, Timberwolves game. Go to Ikea, maybe. The Mall of... Did I say the Mall of America?

Yeah, just going around or like ride the public transit yeah you know any of that stuff that's that's where you go the cities buy use gym equipment that's where you go that's that's probably the the main reason you go isn't it yes when was the last time you were in the city stanner oh it's been a little while now it's probably been it's been two years for me it was the year the arnold got canceled we went like it was like i didn't plan on working or anything we got to do something so we went to the cities that was last time i went yep like to go back used to go a lot a lot of fun stuff to do there there is you know there is all right final question vague geography edition of tanner explains the midwest what is the corn palace

ah the corn palace so we've went west we've went east we're going slightly east but more south than anything to mitchell south dakota is it slight oh yeah it is just like a little bit east isn't it yeah a little bit not very much but mostly south i guess is what i would say from here um you're going to mitchell south dakota for the corn palace it is a building maybe i wouldn't say a palace is auditorium the right word maybe yeah well i mean like the mitchell corn huskers that's the high school there and they play basketball in the corn palace so there's a basketball like i we i went to a state tournament basketball tournament at the

corn palace one year where like the girls basketball tournament was there and it's uh decorated on the outside with corn every year and i think do they have to like redo it every year they do i'm pretty sure they do and it's decorated with husks of corn well and it's like the corn like the uh the colors of the corn right right i don't know for lack of the better political correct term it's indian corn is what like it's the corn with like the multiple colored kernels that's how it was i don't know if there's a different better name for that i have no idea it's always been called to have to describe it in a way um and it it is cool looking i have not seen been up close to it since i was like a senior in high

school though so probably be about i don't even really know exactly what it looks like up close on that exterior like the facade that creates the uh corn exterior plus it is kind of like ornate and like doesn't have some kind of like peaks that are overly decorative on top and all that stuff too. Or on the corners. It does almost like a Middle Eastern structure. Yes, that is the good way to describe that. Right. Not in a way of what you would consider like traditional American building. No, but I don't, since it's been so long, I don't know how big the place actually feels when you walk up to it. I don't know if it just feels like your average little,

you know, civic arena in our case here, or if it feels like there's more to it. Biggest superstar to ever play there? Mike Miller, of course, went on to it. NBA Rookie of the Year. Yeah, and I think they might have won the national championship with the Florida Gators. If they didn't win, they were in the final four. Yeah, and I think they might have won the national championship with the Florida Gators.

If they didn't win, they were in the Final Four. Yeah, that's right. They had a really good team. There were some other guys that went on to go to the NBA from that Florida Gators team. And, yeah, he won a championship ring with LeBron James in the Heat. Excellent three-point shooter. Yeah, he actually had a couple of clutch ones, right?

Yeah. And then the series ended. He didn't move near as well as he used to by that point in his career, but at certain points in his career, he was like a 20-some points per game average guy. He was a scorer, absolutely. From humble South Dakota beginnings. Yeah. Fun guy to get on the podcast sometime, right?

We've talked about it. If only we had that reach, huh? Yeah, someday. Okay, Tanner, I am happy to report that you did pass Tanner Explains the Midwest special vague geography edition. I mean, I think I nailed it all again, right? You nailed it all. It helps that I am from here also.

You really have the inside look at how that all goes. Yeah, it'd be more embarrassing when I eventually, like, get them all wrong. I'll be like, jeez, like, do I have to move away now? Am I banished? What if I, like, didn't know where the Corn Palace was? I was like, is that in Huron? What are you talking about? Like a grain elevator?

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we can, well, I got some stuff we can talk about. I'll shoot him a message. Um, yeah. Did you have something? We'll,

we'll see what he says. I'll just cut you off. Well, big Lou said, I hear hybrids having a meet this weekend. Speaking of recent sponsors we just read about. Good point. It's the hybrid showdown down in Miami,

partying in the city where the heat is on all night in the city until the break of dawn. Welcome to Miami. We got John Hack competing. Oh, he is? Always one of the stars of the show. And then Jamal Browner is their headliner, I would say, that it's like is jamal gonna pull a thousand pounds but these guys are ready so all right get them on do you want to keep the discord or send them um up to you

dealer's choice you gotta put it on me i guess i put it on you they're saying they're saying keep maybe we'll keep them around for a few minutes okay we'll just keep them and then just just randomly just get rid of yeah we'll just cut the cord whenever something's really getting good you don't think their internet went out and they'll be messing with it only to realize like no no yeah all right we'll try try the toms here fuck is that hello is that my phone is this thing live oh we are live in the fucking bandland somewhere what in the hell is going on can you swear on this podcast it's our podcast we do whatever we want yeah it depends on which podcast we're talking about

no you're in our world now I have no idea where I'm at you know this is pretty amazing we got three Toms and a Tanner I feel really kind of shitty being the only not Tom here yeah you might as well get off we talked about that I actually just texted Tommy on the side

get that Tanner guy off for just one episode maybe get Tom 10 senior over here. Do you know anyone named Tom that you could have fill in? Yeah, we got Tom Finn Sr., my old man. He's actually here right now drinking beer over at the bar. Pappy? Yeah, Pappy's here.

He doesn't want to get on. He doesn't want to talk. He's too nervous. He's very intoxicated. He's got fake teeth. He's afraid that they're going to fall out. I spit them out earlier. What were you guys talking about before we

called you here? Just how great you guys were. Tom's addicted to Kratom now. I just found Kratom. It just made its way into my house. I said, Chris Bell gave me a shitload of that. I got an airplane when it first came out and I thought I was going to get arrested. Have you taken any of it yet? No, I have not. Tom did. He said he

saw visions. I don't really know what it is. There's green stuff, and it's supposed to be lighter. So I took five pills, and I felt like, oh, this is actually pretty good. Then I'm like, oh, well, what's stronger than this? I'll get the white stuff. So I got this white pills. I'm like, well, of course I'm going to take five.

And I thought I could hear colors. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I'm like, this is too much. It's like heroin. Isn't it supposed to be like opioids, kind of? Is that the thing? Yep. Tom's a diptych.

I've had it twice today. How are you going to wean yourself back off of it? With heroin. Only one way to go from there. It's going downhill. All right, fast. So are you guys in Chicago right now? No, no.

We are way in the outskirts of we're in the cornfields. There's not a neighbor for miles where we're at right now. We're in a farm with a cat that's been destroying our equipment all night. It's about 29 degrees in the morning. How's your driveway these days? Not good.

It actually warmed up a little bit today, so it melted most of the ice because Mrs. Barbell couldn't get out. I had to push her out yesterday to get out of the driveway. I'll give her a push. Don't hold another man's lawn. One of our listeners, also one of your avid listeners,

Keith Honeycutt. Actually, we were talking too. It's funny how many listeners that we have in common that we'll hear brought up on your that you guys talk about that are also big listeners of the Mathonomics podcast too. We're going to get a lot

of crossover. A lot of losers. A lot of losers out there. He said drinking game for this episode. Take a drink if you hear. Shut up, Karen. Bell, you cocksucker. Okay, bye. Lineman, Mackie, Shanks,

Barn, or Bionic Elbows. Oh, God. Shanks and Barn have already been brought up like 20 times. They're probably fucked up right now. Wasted. Tom almost killed Shanks already today. It's a prison cat, dude dude it doesn't have house rules

it's got no rules and it wants to play constantly it's not good so what's going on out there in the badlands not too much we're just over here podcasting we do this it's kind of funny you guys usually record on like Tuesday or Wednesday nights then too huh

yeah typically Wednesday. Lately, it's been every Wednesday. Every Wednesday. Eight or nine nights. Probably the last year we've been doing it. Are you guys trying to copy us just like those silicone pint cups? Yes. That's the first thing I told Tom. Well, hold on.

Hold on. Actually, Tom took a picture of his new setup, and I said, are you in the Masonomics podcast room now? Where are you at? I screenshot it on YouTube. I'm like, where's your fucking equipment? It looks just like your set. I mocked it.

There's a Masonomics sign on everything. I went to an old lady's house and I got these two retro trailers for $50. This is perfect, just like Masonomics. I got this little table that's in between us and then I got Mason two retro trailers for $50. This is perfect, just like Mastodonics. I got this little table that's in between us. Then I got Mastodonics drawn on a piece of paper. Right behind the picture.

Just like they're neon. Then he put a little neon rope around it. Same thing. You guys aren't there tonight, though. You're in the barn. Yeah, we flip and flop weeks. Finn decided to move an hour and a half away from me so i gotta we gotta share the drive you know is it actually that far no it's probably

15 minutes at least it's not bad it's just tom's more more towards uh i don't know bigger towns i i've got a uh about a seven minute drive to get over here to tommy's house and i think that's bad enough when i leave at about 11 at night and I'm like, geez, I got to make the drive home. That lucky guy, he just gets to crawl right into bed, you know, and I got to sleep in by the time you're getting your driver. I know it's so good when you're at your house and then you, yeah, Tom leaves, I'm hammered drunk. I need to go right to my bed.

It sucks when I sleep Tom's house. I'm like, Oh man, Jesus take the wheel and I hope I make it to work in the morning. I got pulled over that one night. That wasn't good. Everything was fine. I didn't have any cocktails. The guy knew who I was and let me go. So here's that Huck Finn barbell guy. I saw you at the Bears

game. You want a flannel? I said something. He goes, yeah, I know who you are. And then looks at the Bears game. You want a flannel? I said something. He goes, yeah, I know who you are. And then looks at me and then takes my stuff and then it goes back to his car. I'm like, oh, you're really good or really bad. And then it turned out to be good. We were talking. It's funny.

There's quite a, you know, there are some a lot of similarities between our two podcasts. You guys kind of do a similar thing that we do that you're both still working your full-time jobs and um you know you're i don't know i mean callous you talk about it too it's like the working man lifter but it's also kind of like the working man other business at the same time kind of thing too and like and everyone knows me for my bench press and Tanner for a squat. So like,

it's a lot of, a lot of really, not quite as much that part of it. Yeah. Maybe in your town. That's, that's actually about right. Yeah.

That's fair. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, we both, I don't know. I don't really know you guys, like what you guys do for work at all.

Well, Tommy's a banker. That's what Tom was telling me a couple weeks ago. What do these guys do for their jobs? I'm the banker. Tanner. Oh, Tanner's a banker. What kind of banking are you in? Agricultural banking.

So farmers, people growing corn and soybeans and wheat. And then the other guy, what is it, a bartender, right, at the bar or something you were saying? I got a graphic design website business. Yeah, Massanomics. You know what it is? It's a t-shirt company. Yeah, we already know what that is. Never heard of it.

That's a fancy word for it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, go ahead. No, that's what we we do full-time and you know we talk or you kind of watch people that want to start stuff and we talked about this on recent episodes too with some other people but uh the idea that everyone wants to jump in whole hog on like the side business thing that they want to get going and you can go a long time like you can really like something can build up a lot of

traction and stuff with keeping your other a full-time job you know and we we both have wives and kids and families and all that stuff too like uh you just gotta it just takes a lot of hours i guess but it can all be done it takes a lot of hours man like me and tom pretty similar and i have two well me and mrs barbell run two separate companies right and then i have my full-time job, which is a prison guard. And then we have, you know, a family, kids and shit, and all that other shit that goes along with all that. Then the training on top of it. So it's a lot.

I work eight hours at my job, sometimes more. And then I come home and try to focus on immediately my business and my training and then the kids and everything else. So it's not much sleep and just, but and then the kids and everything else so it's not much sleep and just uh but i love the other shit the other shit's my favorite once i get out of my my you know working for the man i love working for myself yep so it doesn't seem as much like work even though it is work right it's always better when you're working for yourself oh yeah because you're making your own money the only thing that sucks is when you have to pay

the government i'm like these guys didn't do anything for me. I did this all myself. I thought all this stupid shit. That part is a little annoying when you read it. It's way different when it just comes out of your check and you never have it, but once you have it, then you've got to give it back. That's what it hurts the most. I really wanted to hang on to that. You don't know it's getting taken from you when

you get your check in the mail. You know, I'm going to get a direct deposit but uh yeah yeah that's it's fucking sucks oh was that shakes tom just do shakes across the barn it's coming back for more no i don't throw them across the barn i said i'm gently inside my local listeners get confused yeah no i i'm i'm with you i'm like we always i always like kind of tell people like seven million guys yeah i'm gonna quit my full-time job and i'm gonna make this product i'm with you. I always tell people some known guys, yeah, I'm going to quit my full-time job and I'm going to make this product. You might want to make the product before you start quitting your job.

You might want to make sure that everything's going to pan out. If it doesn't, you've got something to fall back on. There's more time, but there's more security as well. You've got your job, then you've got eight hours to do a different job, which is whatever your business is. Maybe it's a little different

if you're a single dude out there and stuff, but when you have a family, other responsibilities, it doesn't really work that way. Not if you're going about it the right way, at least. Yeah, just jumping out of the plane with no parachute. Well, I hope

I don't die. So what do you guys got cooking for the podcast? Yeah, just jumping out of the plane with no parachute. Well, I hope I don't die. Yep. So what do you guys got cooking for the podcast? You know, another thing, too, is you guys have just been doing it for a really long time now. How many episodes are you guys at? This is 110. This is actually our two-year anniversary. I was planning on a big episode tonight.

We're kind of flatlining with you guys. No, this is the big episode. Yeah. This flatlining. This is the big episode. This is it. This is the grande episode. This is as good as it gets. It's downhill from here, Tommy. So what do you plan for the next... I mean, obviously you guys want to keep it rolling. You've had more guests on lately and stuff too.

Are you going to keep going that way, you think? Yeah. The guest thing is nice because me and finn we could fuck it we got the gift of gab right so we could sit there and bullshit like for the most part like for at least an hour hour and a half every season you know every time we talk um we never plan anything you guys plan anything we don't plan a fucking thing dude you guys have like i've seen you guys have like papers in front of you yeah we have papers for our ads but what we do is before we get started, we have to write down our things

or we forget what we were going to talk about. So like, oh, I want to talk about this. I want to talk about this. We just make a checklist. We'll spend like 30 minutes before we start recording just kind of talking about some of the things that we want to talk about. Me and Tom talk about everything for 30 minutes.

Don't write anything down and be like, oh, we should have took the mics off. We fucked that up, Kaz. And I even got to a point point where i go get in my fucking basement now shut up get your headphones on we're gonna bullshit like this is good stuff people want to hear this that's what we'll do we'll say we'll say something like i i'm gonna hold off i gotta wait yeah we talk about the podcast we'll be like at the gym at the same time it's like no no we can't talk about like we let's not talk about that yet've got to save that for Wednesday night. Yeah.

Wednesday night thunder. Yeah, no, we like getting different guests on because, one, it gives us a break. We get to learn about somebody new. It gives the fans someone else to listen to besides Tom and Tom. I just like getting it open for them. I like doing more in-person stuff, but it's fucking hard. We did a three-hour interview in person before. We got on the phone like 30, 45,

maybe if it's John Anderson, it's going to be fucking three hours. You actually don't even need to ask John Anderson a question. You can just walk away. I'm not lying. When he was on, there might have been a stretch where he talked for 15 minutes plus without us even saying a peep.

I'm not sure if we actually said more than three questions the whole thing. Yeah, same with us. Yeah, he just goes and goes. I guess we're not going to answer any of these questions. Sorry. We don't have as much recording room right now. Sorry. Oh, I love John Anderson.

He's good. Yeah, he is. Yeah, he can talk. Do you guys have anyone coming up soon that you got planned that we can steal and try and get before you do? Yeah, we do have this guy named Hulk Hogan coming on very soon. Never heard of him. That would be a good one. And Stone Cold Steve Austin.

We're trying to get Brock Lesnar, so we'll race you to that. He's your neighbor. Yeah, I know. He lives right above you guys, I thought. Basically, yeah. Steve Austin, he texts me all the time, especially recently. He texted me the other night, a Monday night. I was in bed.

It was like 1230 at night, right? I woke up to like four text messages from Stone Cold Steve Austin. I thought, shit. And it was like some stupid videos or something. It was funny. I was. I thought, shit. It was like some stupid videos or something. They were funny. Shit. Steve Austin has sent me videos. Have you thought about asking him yet or do you not want to?

I don't know. I don't want to bother. I don't know. It seems weird. I know him, but I don't know him. Finn doesn't want him to stop texting. I don't want him to stop texting me. Hey, you want to get on my podcast what the fuck he never texts me again and then he's like damn it now you're just another guy that wants

something from me let it grow for a while yeah that's what I'm going to have to do I'm going to keep watering it we got a couple connections to like Jacob Ross he's another former pro wrestler that bongo guy I'm not going to give you the right name because you'll steal him We've got a couple connections to Jacob Ross. He's another former pro wrestler.

That bongo guy. I'm not going to give you their right name because you'll steal them. Probably plan it for the same Wednesday or something. What did you say that guy's phone number was? Actually got his number. We're like, yeah. They've got Cowboy Kim and Jacob Ross on next week. Shit. Dan Bell again.

Yeah. Yeah. We kind of fly by the seat of our pants, you know. If I see somebody on Instagram, I just, like, DM them. Like, hey, you want to get our podcast? Yeah. That's kind of how you have to do it. Like, you plan it out and people forget about it.

And, yeah, it's hard to keep a schedule. Right, yeah. Yeah, I do everything, like, last minute because my schedule can change. Finn's can change. Everybody's schedule sucks. It's like, I just do it, like, Tuesday. Hey, can you get on tonight or tomorrow? Okay, thanks. You know what I mean? Yep. So it's like i just do it on a tuesday hey can you get on tonight or tomorrow okay thanks you know what i mean yeah so it's easier that way but some people like you

know what it's really tough i don't know if you guys experience i'm sure you have with 300 episodes like it takes like a while for people to get their fucking engine going and you're like you need to talk because this is an interview like some people aren't used to interviews either right like they'll just give you like one word or two answers how's your training good okay anyway i figured that was gonna take like 10 minutes and like it was like three words like when you talk to people in person you kind of notice it but the second you start doing a podcast you really feel it those people that go on forever and those people that don't say anything like and you never know until you get going so it's hard to even prepare for what one's going to

happen right and yeah it's like a poor teeth no it's great to get you know we've had a you know a ton of great lifters and stuff and some of them are really really good on the podcast but we always notice people that like if they do podcasting themselves or like have a youtube channel where they do a lot of vlogging anything like that when you get them on like it's like oh shit they make it so easy the way that they're just like used to talking and like used to um those kind of interactions like they just make the podcast so much easier sometimes right right that's a load off of you because they're like what the I've got to fill this dead air. Do you guys ever do pre-interviews?

Or do you just fucking bring it? Yeah, he is. Do you think they have a guy who pre-interviews people? No, you talk to them before they get on. No, some people want to know what kind of things do you want to talk about? What should I prepare for?

I'll always tell them, first first of all don't prepare anything i want it to just be like the more that it's just like a conversation the better and this is usually like through text yeah this through text or dms or what whatever and then uh you know what i'll tell them is like yeah we're kind of goofy you know we'll probably want to try to joke around with you um you know ask you some yeah yeah ask you some silly questions you know a little bit about lifting but more about just some other crap in your life and usually you know that's enough and people are like okay i kind of get it but or a lot of times i'll just be like just check out any one of our other episodes and you'll kind of know what it's

like you know i'll tell them that a lot of times too uh but no i don't know why the fuck did you guys get on here and ask us a bunch of questions before we started recording? You guys pre-interviewed us before we even got on here. Hey, don't tell people that. I was like, I've never been pre-interviewed before. I've been on big time podcasts. And then I go on the

Massanavis and you guys pre-interview me for like a half an hour. Very nervous. Made us nervous. I almost didn't get on there because of that secrets of the trade which podcast do you think Dan Bell likes better yours or ours not even a chance

I can't listen to everything this week mass economics drop one okay okay I guess I'll download it whatever Dan Bell would not only listen to ours then he would go re-watch it on TV. It was like the worst quality ever. He wouldn't care.

He's a big fan. That's dedication. That is. He is a supporting member of the Massonomics podcast, though. Son of a bitch. Are you kidding me? Bill, you're done with this podcast. We're going to open that up.

We're going to take it from each of you. What do you guys charge? Three bucks? We got tiers. Yeah, there's a bunch of different choices. Oh, there is. There's actually one on there. Couldn't afford you guys.

Laramie, King Ranch. Different trim package. The four sixes and Yellowstone and Dutton Ranch. Bell's at Dutton Ranch. Bell's at Dutton Ranch. Hey, has the Dan Bell laugh played? Will we hear that through the phone? No, it won't play on your guys' end.

It'll fucking scream in our ears but on the phone side. One time we did it, they're like, what are you talking about? Oh, they didn't hear it on there. It happens on the hour. It but on the phone side, because the one time we did it, they're like, what are you talking about? They didn't hear it on there. It happens on the hour. Because it's on the computer. We record through the computer, but it doesn't spit the sounds out back through the board.

You guys get it. Are you guys working on getting video going still? Is that in the plans? Why didn't Tanner or Tommy just hit the call button? Come on, what's going on over there? Seriously, you have a mute button? Wake up. Yeah, we were looking into cameras like last week we're on the phone looking at a bunch of where i'm like god this is so fucking overwhelming yeah we're not like i was

just gonna buy the same one you guys have but like you're even saying like that's a lot of camera recommend it it's so much work the one we have. If I didn't do this stuff. The first one we had that we used for a long time, the quality of the video wasn't as good, but it was basically just, I don't know, you call it like a pointed camcorder. The beauty of that was how simple it was. Basically, you just press power and press play and then plug it into your computer.

I mean, you could even, if you have enough space on a phone, you could probably, especially if you have a newer phone, it'll look pretty good if you just plug a phone in too and just let it go. I have the new iPhone. If you set that up and you have enough space

and just let the episode go, put it on the computer, edit it, and then delete it every week, that's honestly going to be better than even most cameras. I got a microphone for it. I would probably dump the audio. You'd match it up later on. Because if it's a call, got a microphone for it. Well, I would probably, I would find out. Yeah, you'd match it up later on. Because if it's a call,

you wouldn't hear it. Oh, yeah. The only downside is that then you don't have your phone to mess with the whole podcast episode. Yeah, you got it like, you're just stuck with the people. You're just stuck with Tom the whole time. Yeah, I can't look at football

or check on sports. Oh, my Karen's yelling at me. Wait a second. Oh, we're not busy yet. Go ahead, buddy. I was watching like the bowl games or the Monday night game, whatever. All the time. I'm watching the games while Tom's talking.

Like, this is getting good, Tom. You're going to have to leave me alone for a couple minutes. It's overtime. It's funny you guys bring up Karen. She was actually messaging us earlier, maybe thinking about doing a few runs of masonomic shirts to see how it goes. Pull some screens. Mrs. Barbell is messaging you?

Yeah, she was talking about she said she had some spare time that she might want to pull a few massonomics. She said she had these cool flannels she wanted us to sew our patches on too. I'm telling you what right now. If you guys come out with flannels, I pay out of it with you guys. There's another

company that I'm not going to name. Live Large. No. Not Live Large? Nope. I love Live Large. No. Not Live Large? Nope. I love Live Large. I do too. I love their shit. There's another company I'm not going to name who came out with the Hulk cut.

I have the Hulk cut. They came out with the Hulk cut. They also came out with a flannel very recently. Some of my fans got on their page in certain scenes. That's good when you've got real good fans where they kind of take care of that stuff for you. I don't like messing with that stuff. I don't want to give them whatever. Do whatever you want. I don't care.

But it is funny when people do that. You know we've got the Western Northeast South Dakota cut though where you just cut one sleeve off. That's a hell of a cut, man. Real popular. It's very popular in the western, northeast, southern part of the region.

Get a free sweatband with it. I've seen a lot of guys going to Sturgis wearing that last year. But depending on which one you cut off, your left or right, it's a signal to what you... Which side of the state you live on. West River or East River.

Oh, God. what you're probably what side of state you live on west river or east river oh god you guys need flannels out there though man yeah no shit you guys we need uh i was looking for bomber jacks they're very expensive we need parkas yeah it's actually nice today but it's been brutal lately no i think the flannels is a cool idea i think that's that's a really cool deal but we don't have plans to rip that off soon. But I do like that. I think that that's pretty awesome. I've worn this flannel for years. I love it. I don't wear a jacket unless I'm like I wear like a jacket

if I'm outside for long periods of time, but I'm just going around, I don't know, Tom's house or a store or whatever. I never wear a jacket. Even if it's below zero, I wear this flannel, this flannel, the same flannel that we've been selling. Did you get one, Callis, then? No, I couldn't afford it. We sold out very quickly.

Times are tough. I thought you were supposed to be the number one athlete. Yeah, well, you know, you get a lot of promises you get told, but the follow-through is just not as good as I thought it was going to be. Cam is now the number one athlete.

Until he tears something, then he goes to the bottom again. Yes, when he tears his pack, doing a reverse grip bench to the next meet, then he'll go back to the bottom. So he is reverse grip benching in the meet. He's doing that. He plans on over 500 pounds.

Is that legal in all federations basically then? Yeah, it is. I don't think there's rules against it. Have you ever seen someone do it in competition? Yes. Yes. I have. There was an older guy who was like the first guy ever to bench fucking like 800 pounds

in a suit. Craig Tarkowski. I used to, when I first first started really getting in it, I was training with him in Juliet, Illinois, and he was an older guy and he fucked his pecs up or something, so he started reverse grip benching. He was probably close to 50. He competed with me in a meet.

He benched like 450 or something reverse grip. That was the first time I'd ever seen anybody do that. It was allowed. It's going to be funny seeing Cam do reverse grip bets. He can do 500 pounds. When Cam does it, does he do suicide reverse grip or does he wrap his thumbs around the bar?

No, he's suicide, 100%. It goes across your palm, your thumb and your palm. Do you have to have someone really seriously lift it out to you? You can't on-rack that yourself, can you? No, because his wrists, your wrists are in a bad position. Think about where your wrists would be.

You have to turn it. While it's getting handed out, it has to be turned in your hand. Otherwise, it's like certain death. You know what I mean? It's got to be right to get him to fucking get that position. When he first started doing it out here, I was getting nervous just because he's coming off a torn pec, and then he's got

that alien popping out of his pec now because it's all fucked up. You see that pop out? It looks like a fist. Then the bar's spinning on him, and I'm like, dude, and I'm telling the other guy, I said, if this bar moves at all, push it away from his neck. That's the first thing you do. You start pushing it towards his chest.

That's the first thing that would hit. It would roll right into his fucking neck. Then he starts going heavy, and I'm like, oh, fuck, man. I hope this fucking holds up. Have you guys lifted off for him? Oh, yeah. It's fucking weird, dude. I would not really like that.

Tomorrow night in here, he's probably going to go, I'm guessing, probably around 475. So do you got to lift? I mean, even at a couple couple plates do you got to start lifting off for him then when you're yeah yeah yeah i'd say he starts getting a lift off right at 225 i mean that's how i would do it we were trying to get it because jacob has done reverse split grip so instead of going like a complete reverse on your palms on the suicide you put either one or two like middle your of your pointer, and you put the bar splitting between your hands.

Between your fingers? Yeah, between your fingers, because that way it's through the meat of your hand, and you have grip on both sides as opposed to a suicide reverse. It's like a suicide split. But the whole palm is like diagonal, so you actually get more palm on it

you know what I mean it is safer but he just didn't like it it felt weird he's strong at that angle too I think he will hit if everything goes his plan he will hit the over 500 if everything goes his plan

it takes your peck out of it but it also puts so much strain on your triceps if everything is as it should be. It's just a lot. It takes your peck out of it, right? But it also puts so much strain on your triceps. You're like, oh, man. I don't know. He's actually, I think, could be a stronger bench that way because that's how he's built. He's built all triceps and back and everything else.

And belly. And belly. So, I don't know. I think he's actually... I assume if you're going to do that in the meet, it's almost something you've got to go up to the head judge and tell him about first. Make sure you know I'm

reverse grip. Cam shows up high as hell wearing sunglasses reverse grip. This guy's alright. This guy knows where he's at. Does he live in a fucking bar? What do you expect? Is he doing his Jefferson deadlift then with the bar in between?

Of course. Yeah, he's doing the Jefferson deadlift. He'll be over 800 pounds. It's going to be a weird lift. Then he's going to fucking squat. He's going to front squat 800 pounds, right? Yeah. He's all over the place. Just an unconventional meet for him.

Yeah, with blue blockers on and all smoky, a lot of marijuana. And all that terrible singlet that's fucking like, it goes down to like his belly button and the straps come up. He's got that Olympic singlet he wears. Like where the nipples stick out and it's cut way too deep. Yeah, that's what he's got. It's cut all the way down to his waist.

It's a capital V-neck. Yeah, that's what he has. He loves it. Who do you guys think's more Midwest us or you guys? Oh, that's for sure. You're not like Midwest. You're like You guys are out West? Yeah do you guys think's more Midwest us? Or you guys? Oh, that's for sure. You're not like Midwest. You're like... You guys are out West? Yeah, you guys are West.

See, that's funny because if you ask anyone around here, this is kind of, you know... And I figured you guys would say that too. And, you know, that's kind of... It's funny, like when we go out to the... You guys are like Canada. Do you guys think Ohio's the Midwest though? Or is that too far East?

I don't know. Ohio's like Florida. So it's like, you know, like all those weirdos. It's either like, oh, who fucking got on meth and ran over their fucking kids. Like, oh, is it Ohio or is it Florida, guy? You know, it's like, I don't even consider them a different planet over there. Ohio's kind of Midwest. Ohio.

That's Indiana. Iowa. Michigan. Illinois. Illinois. That's Midwest to me. I think once you get out to the Dakotas, that's the West. Way West.

You guys know what's the fucking Rocky Mountains? I thought the Rocky Mountains would be a little more rockier than this. That was full of shit. Denver was full of shit. Tommy, did we have some Midwest? You guys think you're Midwest?

Everyone from around here would say this is Midwest there's no debate everyone says it's the Midwest here and what the fuck is the West I think once you get anything west of south west of South and North Dakota even actually the west side of our state I don't think people there call themselves Midwest because that's where the mountains kind of

start if you're west of the Missouri River so the east side of South Dakota is on the east side of the Missouri River. We call it Midwest, but you get west of the Missouri River. Then I think people. Missouri. Yeah. I don't know, dude. I remember being out there when I was a kid out in the Dakotas. We went out there quite a bit. Pappy would just pack us up and we'd head out west and we'd end up in Rushmore all the time or somewhere out in that area. I just remember there was nothing out there. Nothing.

I guess that was more North Dakota. We were in South Dakota a lot. Wall Drug was big. That was the only sign. Wall Drug, 100 more miles. Then we went up on Highway 2 maybe up in North Dakota. Literally, we didn't see cars for hours. Gas stations, cars, and there's like a post office with everything.

Yep, yep. Usually a post office and a bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a pep. You can always stop. Get a beverage and go, man. Send a letter. Yeah, send a letter home and say, we're all right.

We're headed out west. We make it out to Montana somewhere and turn around and go home. But, yeah, there was not much out there. Where you guys live, what's Aberdeen? Is that a big town? For South Dakota, it is. It's about 25,000 and it's the third biggest. Oh, that's very big.

I'm in a town of 400 right now. I know Jack that almost loved it out there. We still got his signed banner hanging on the wall. That's awesome. I got to go and sign that same banner. We probably will be out there this summer.

First week of June. No, we're serious about that. If you can at all make it possible, come through this way and come to the gym and stick around here, whatever you want to do. When we plan this trip, I'll let you know when we'll be out there. We'll be going for like two weeks.

I got to find a truck first. Finn will be in your front lawn dumping his fucking shitter back into your fucking shitter spool. Backing everything up. Fucking plugging into your house. Kids come flying out.

Destroying everything. Little barbells running around my home. Our wives are like, who the hell is this now? I'll be like, oh, that's just let's talk finn barbell let him go all right we got we got midwest questions for you guys because you know we we also can consider ourselves midwest so we're curious if you guys are familiar with some of these terms that we have here uh you guys ready to get into this? Never heard of it. Yeah, I never heard of that.

What's the term? First question, do you guys know what Whippin' Shitties is? Yeah, Whippin' Shitties. Come on. Whippin' Shitties in the truck, the four-wheeler. Okay. Come on, man. I'm glad because when we had Big Jonathan up here from Alabama,

they had never heard of Whippin' Shitties. I guess that doesn't make it down south. We used to Whippin' Shitties all the time. Remember, Whippin' Shitties. I guess that doesn't make it down south. We used to whip shitties all the time. Remember Whippin' Shitties in Cornfield. They're knocking over corn on the fucking farmers coming out with shotguns and underwear. We used to steal. We'd go whip shitties and go steal

road signs. But we wouldn't unscrew the sign. We would rip it out of the ground. That's a leading job. We'd put them all back. Just took them out and put them back. Yeah, we always put them back the next day. Yeah, absolutely. That's how you do it.

That's what everyone does. Trouble. All right, next one. Do you guys know what a flat of pounders is? Flat of pounders? Flat of pounders? Never heard of it. Beer?

Yeah. Burgers? Beer. No, beer. So you know what a pounder is? Do you guys call them pounders? No, but I know I've heard of that term, but I've never called it a pounder.

Yeah, 16-ounce beers here are pounders. Huh. What do you call them, silos? Like a can. We're talking a can. Yeah, bigger beers, we call them bigger beer because silo. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. what's diesel fuel to you guys budweiser no i would have said budweiser bud heavy diesel um there's a couple other ones for budweiser i

think but diesel yeah would for sure be budweiser but yeah pounders are 16 ounce cans and then a flat is when you buy like it's that cheap cardboard flat it's not like in a a full case surrounded by cardboard it's just the bottom that's a couple inches tall and there's like four six-packs sitting in it no no we don't have that here okay i never heard why would you buy a four six-pack i've never it really is a case of case of 24 but it's not like in a nice case it's just like in a cheap shitty piece of cardboard that you like hey i've got that there yeah and it's cheaper usually and like you almost like have to use two hands underneath of it because it's so fun damn bell just went off bell just went off right now you guys missed it oh damn it fuck oh i heard it

you know i heard it yep you can buy a case of beer, but it comes like how a monster case would come. There you go. Not a lot of cardboard in Wyoming or wherever you guys are. North Dakota. Not a lot of cardboard.

Wrap it in plastic. Pass the savings on to you. Alright, next one on the list here. Do you guys got Chislic? Pass the savings on to you. All right. Next one on the list here. Do you guys got Chislik? No. I don't know. Never heard of that.

Really? Chislik, was that a gas station? No. It's a delicacy. It's a food. So I don't know. You describe it to me. Like most people would call it like steak cubes,

but like deep fried steak cubes pretty much. Like it's just chunks of steak cut up into like little one inch call like steak cubes like deep-fried steak cubes pretty much like it just chunks A steak cut up into like little one inch by one inch cubes No, no, no, we don't have that Thrown in the deep fryer No I remember I went up to the upper Desirable cuts of steak Yeah, that's not a good cut

No, it sounds like those hand pies they have up in the upper peninsula. Yeah. When you come to South Dakota, we'll get you some chiseled. You'll like it. What do you put on it? Salt, dip it in ranch, something like that.

Steak, ranch, salt. I guess you fucked everything up. Eat it with toothpicks. You don't use a fork. You just use a toothpick. It's on the appetizer menu. This isn't a main course. This is just something to get you going. Okay. Why get nice oysters

when you can get cube steak shit and salt? I would get awesome ranch sauce. Actually, and then barbecue. Some places give you barbecue sauce with it, too. They give you any sauce you want. This is starting to sound pretty good. I ate this steak yesterday with barbecue sauce. Actually, and then barbecue. Some places give you barbecue sauce with it, too. They give you any sauce you want. This is starting to sound pretty good. I ate this steak yesterday with barbecue sauce. What's wrong with you? I had a ton of it,

and it was dried up, so I ate it with barbecue. All right. About to go bad. I'd eat it. If it fits your macros, you know what I mean? Yeah, you get it. You guys got macros up there? We're still waiting, Matt. It's been on the coast, and it's getting close to us. We're told it's coming.

That's probably coming 2030. Macro. Wait until COVID hits you guys. You're calling us for help. What the fuck is this thing? Just wait for it. You got something coming. It's really going to suck for us in about 10 years when it gets there.

They're going to shut everything down, buddy. Sorry. When are you going to get signed up for the Arnold? Yeah, we were talking about that after we went off the air yesterday. I don't know. I don't know if Mrs. Barlow. We talked and we're like, well, maybe we just go and just go and just you know make my presence known there right like talk to people and stuff

and not even get a booth that was one direction we're thinking about going that's definitely the less risky move yeah less profit I mean that's what I yeah definitely you get there you're like fuck I wish I had a booth I mean I'm going to spend at least five grand on a booth minimum plus the whatever money on top of that and everything else.

Sell some more flannels. You'll be fine. Well, I know, but it's still. And that's a lot of work, too. Mrs. Barwell's got to make a lot of shit. We have a lot of inventory, everything else on top of it. What if you get there and you do like what I do fucking every weekend here? Yeah.

I mean, you guys get we get it exactly. We understand the exact same way, but what the tough part is though, the upside of when you are there, you do have a good booth. Yeah. You get known. You get more noticed. Yeah, just get in front of all those. Every random person goes, oh shit, who are you?

I know. It's just all those eyes that you don't, that you really just don't have a good way of getting to through just your regular Instagram and all that stuff. A hundred percent. And there's, that's the best thing. There's nothing else that even draws a crowd a tenth the size. Not even close.

You can go set up at little powerlifting meets and stuff, which is good. It's fine. We've done a few of them, but it's not the same. It's not like the Arnold. Well, those Fit Expos are pretty big. The LA Fit Expo was pretty big, but still was not like the Arnold. The LA Fit Expo was probably the second best thing I was at besides the Arnold, the LA one.

Then the Olympia is kind of big, but it's more of a different crowd than the Arnold. That's what everyone tells us. The Olympia isn't really necessarily the spending crowd like there is at the Arnold. Did you have a booth at the LA one? No, I was just out there. Companies were sending me out there.

Just trying to do a booth in LA. All right, now we got to fucking drive to LA from South Dakota? No, there's no way in me out there. Like, just trying to do a booth in L.A. Like, all right, now we've got to fucking drive to L.A. from South Dakota? No, there's no way in hell. Me from Huskers, Chicago, there's no way I was going to do that. Yeah. I mean, I'd have to fly everything out, which who knows what that would cost. That's the other thing, yeah.

Now you're like all trustee on that. And just trusting that all your inventory's, you know, on a pallet somewhere else. Oh, yeah. I'd have to have somebody fucking U-Haul it out there and I'd fly. I'd probably have Mackie or some couple of Kim, you know fucking U-Haul it out there and I'd fly. I'd probably have Mackie or some couple of Kim U-Haul it out there. Me and Garrett fly first class. Tank.

Me and Garrett first. Yeah. You'd end up in what's that guy's place? That guy's basement with lotion? Yeah. He'd end up in that guy's basement. He only goes there now. That guy's basement with the lotion? Yeah, he goes there. He ended up in that guy's basement.

He wouldn't fucking have a tank. He only ended up 20 miles down the road in the basement. We got this little game we like to play called Underrated Overrated. I think you guys are both

familiar with it, right? Yeah, I've been on your podcast. Episode 249. Check it out. Overrated. Kelton's way overrated. That wasn't the topic. Actually, that was the only question.

I guess we're done now. This podcast sucks. I think you guys got more characters. Okay. Overrated or underrated? Prison. Oh, God. I'd probably say underrated.

How terrible it's got to be on either side. I don't even know how to even answer that question, honestly. Yeah, just don't go there, ever, as any side of the prison. I always think about that. That would be my advice.

If I do, I hope it spins. No, I don't know who that guy is. If I've got to be on one side of the bars, though, I'd rather be on your side, I'm pretty sure, right? Oh, yeah, of course. Things are changing. It's 2020, whatever it is. Things are a little more...

I can't really talk about it. I think prisons is becoming a little nicer now than it used to be. So you always say that, and I get it, that you can't talk about it. Do they tell you specifically that you're not it, that you can't talk about it. Do they tell you specifically that you're not, like, basically you can't talk about? What about you, though? Do they know that you're, like, an Instagram following and stuff like that? So do they tell you, like, hey, don't talk about prison on your Instagram and stuff like that? Yeah, when you first start, they tell you that stuff.

Yeah, when you first start, they tell you that stuff. A lot of people, like big shots in the prison community, they know who I am, and it's kind of weird. Yeah, they follow me, and they watch my stuff. And I get a lot of stuff, like I'll go to other prisons, and certain things we have to do, and people will recognize me, other guards. And they'll want their picture taken with me which is very weird because I'm just doing my job. They're like, oh my god, you work blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, I'm here and I'm working and I can't do that. I'm sorry.

You come to fear? Yeah. It's wild. I was in that fitness. Six page spread in there. It was all over the place. I'm sure they got pretty new.

Oh my God, isn't that Finn? That's Ulster Finn. It's hanging everywhere. It's kind of weird. Can't get into anything like that. I live a weird life, boys. Let's just say that. Very interesting.

Overrated or underrated? Very interesting. Overrated or underrated Chicago? Overrated. 100%. The only time I know about Tom, he goes a little more than I do, but the only time I ever go there is for a Bears game or a Cubs game. How far away is it from you guys? Tom's a little closer.

I'm probably about an hour and a half. If I'm going downtown Chicago, probably an hour and 10, hour 20. In terms of traffic, too. I went to a Bears game, it's been an hour and two hours. Or if I go to O'Hare to pick somebody up, it's like 15 minutes, 45 minutes. I'm not in a bad spot. So in your guys' normal day lives, you're not dealing with traffic?

You're not close enough to... I don't see a car on my way to work don't yeah here's me i don't see a car on my way to work which is 15 minutes i don't see one car okay because i don't know how people deal with that like that kind of intense stuff you know i can't yeah i drove to the city for four years straight when i first became a lineman yeah and that you just kind of be used to it i mean i didn't have to go far to the city. I'd probably hit every day 15 to 30 minutes with traffic. So it wasn't like LA shit.

But it was like enough to annoy you, and then people would drive into you, hit my truck, and then blame me. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm just trying to... Very, very outskirts of the suburbs, right? Would you consider yourself where you're at now? A little bit, maybe five minutes from the very, very outskirts, of of the suburbs yeah something like that so yeah i would

drive there every day but like it got old quick and then i would you know just drive shitty cars because they didn't get hit or fucking i mean you're all you get shit out of them yeah i can't see chicago it's chicago i went there for christmas like around christmas time and i was I went to Chicago. I want nothing to do with Chicago right now. I don't have these big towers and everything. I want to get out of here. I went there for Christmas, around Christmas time, and I was like, I don't want to be here. My kids and wife and I met about four or five. I don't like this city. It's just not my cup of tea. Yeah, yeah.

Overrated or underrated Ernie Franz? Underrated, big time. 100%. I mean, he was the man. So many people don't know who the fuck he is and what he did in sports. He invented the monolith. Nobody even knows that. He invented so many machines.

He didn't even make money off of them. Yeah, he had all these inventions and ideas and drawings. And people copied him. People just copied him. He invented fucking lifting gear. Yeah. Like suits and all that. That was him.

Anybody ask Eddie Cove, Ernie Franz, there's a million things to say about him. There's so much going That was him. Maybe I should tell you about Artie Francis. I've got a million things to say about him. There's so much going on with him. Godfather of powerlifting. He just never got recognized. He did so many crazy things. He won like the – he set an all-time world record in powerlifting one day, and the next day he won like a professional bodybuilding championship.

Yeah. The next day or that afternoon. I think it was that night or something. It was crazy. Nobody's ever done it. He's a regular Dan Bell. He was the was that night or something. It was crazy. Nobody's ever done it. He's a regular Dan Bell. He was the Dan Bell of the year. I don't know if Dan might have won

a eating contest first. He used to have in our old gym, he was training at Barbell Central, which is crazy. They used to have a little Hall of Fame for him in there. He was really good friends with Clint Eastwood and shit, but he's at Clint Eastwood's house birthday parties You know a lot of like famous people as well, which I never knew until I started actually and

He's just nuts. He's awesome. He loved me I love her and she's the best. He's such a wealth of knowledge He would just sit there and watch you lift or deadlift, squat, whatever. Like, hey, why don't you try this? Do this. He's 80 years old. You're doing this wrong. Usually you want to do this.

I'm like, okay, thanks for watching me. Yeah, I know. It was so nice having him around. He'd just sit in that chair and critique you and then he'd take off. Like every Saturday or something. So definitely underrated. Big death. Somebody would go, now you now you got like which is

good for the sport right you have all these new people coming in but like they don't know like

chest invoices you know what I mean like so none of these guys like

the older guys keep the record luckily Ed Cohn has held on to his like he's grown

popularity but guys like Ernie Franz are just never getting any recognition and people

just kind of get forgotten yeah Franz is awesome he had a gym I guess in Aurora and I used to talk to like guys that are older than me and people just kind of get forgot. Yeah. It's kind of sad. Franz, yeah, Franz is awesome. He had a gym, I guess, in Aurora

and I used to talk to like guys that are older than me and they used to always, I mean, there would be guys from like Michigan all over the tri-state area just coming to Aurora,

Illinois to train in his gym because that's where every monster trained in. Yeah. Anybody that was anybody would train there. And back then,

it was like that before there was like any Westside or any of that stuff. It was Ernie Franz. Yeah. And it wasn't like, you know,

me and Finn had full gyms and Rodgers with a model. That wasn't around. Right. It was like, you want to go bench heavy,

you better go to fucking Chicago. Yeah, you better go find somebody else to train with. They'll let you in. Yeah,

they have to let you in. it wasn't like an open gym. Right. You had to be invited or know somebody. And then the place burned down and a lot of people thought,

man, you did it. Yeah, it was weird, like insurance, right? I don't know what insurance happened with. It burned to the ground, I guess, and then people thought he did it or blamed him or something. So I don't really know what happened. It kind of got all fucked up after that. Yeah, that's when he came over to Barbell Central,

and they had that. And then the guy at Barbell Central never paid his bills. That gym went gone and then everybody spread from there. The gym owner not paying his bills and the gym going up in smoke. It's happened probably like a million times. That's such a common story too. I think it happened to that guy specifically ten times.

Yeah, for real. He owned like five gyms. That gym at one point, man, that was the gym. We had some of the strongest guys in the world at one point in that gym. We had several elite or all-time polters. You have all the elite bridges. You have Derek Kendall walking around. Yeah.

Tom Callis. Dan Bell. You were in there. You were top, what, five in the world at one point in your weight class? I mean, it's just were in there. You were top five in the world at one point in your weight class. A couple girls that were top. Spitting out freaks left and right. Like anything,

you're on top of the mountain when you fall. We all fell at once. Tits up. Tits up? Tits up. It went tits up. It went tits up. It went tits up. Big time. And then that other guy, he owns a Surge now.

He lifted there, and then he started Surge, right? Yeah. He went just too far from me by far. There's just got tons of people in there. It was awesome. Cam actually told us he was trying to get in there as a intern right before I was going belly up. And we had no idea Cam was there. He just wanted to get in there because he saw all of us in there, I intern right before I was going belly up. And we had no idea who Cam was then, you know. He just wanted to get in there because he saw all of us in there, I guess.

And luckily, the guy that owned it didn't know what to do or told him something. I don't know what the rest of the story was. But he ended up not interning there, thank God, because the place went belly up and Cam would have been fucked on his college. So that was kind of cool that that happened. I never knew that until like last year yeah okay that was a good place for a while but like with anything when you start mixing i'm not gonna blame women because it's guys fault because of testosterone and bullshit like everybody's trying to like all

these people are trying to fuck each other's girlfriends or some girl gets single and comes in there so everybody's trying to like get with her and then you're like jesus christ i'm like and then every weekend's fucking drama i don't want to squat with her, and then you're like, Jesus Christ. And then every weekend is fucking drama. I don't want to squat with her. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Last time I checked, we're here to get strong. I'm like, well, you know what? I got to start my own gyms. That's so many people, too. It was just the drama. I couldn't stand it.

You had a lot of good gear lifters in there as well. So they had their side. We had the raw side. We got Clicky. Someone wrecked the Red Bull machine. Yeah, somebody wrecked the Red Bull machine. Yeah, somebody wrecked the Red Bull machine. Everything was on fire all the time. Yeah, dude, that gym was nuts, man.

Like, anything went, though. I will give it that. Anything went. Obviously, you saw. I never paid. What? You never paid once. No, I never paid once.

I never paid for the bill. That's probably why it didn't work out for him very well. I said, yeah, I'm not paying. I'm not paying to be here. You're lucky I'm here. You should pay me. I never paid him once. Other guys are like, yeah, I'm going to need $500 up front,

and then the gym goes belly up. Oh, God, that was terrible. Not good. What a wild place. One more overrated, underrated question, and this one's real important. Overrated, underrated edging. Underrated. I like how we're saying it at the same time, too.

That's how we think. We drilled Hunter Henderson on that last week, and she was a little confused. You drilled Hunter Henderson. She's like, what? You do what? Is that when you don't stop and you stop? And then I'm like yeah you know

like you get it going and then you you leave it alone right on the edge yeah leave them life on the edge yeah I tell everybody if you're serious

well another bringing up Cam again I mean if Cam's name is in this as a drinking game he's gonna be hammer drunk Cam worked at a local fitness area

and he had older guys come in there and thought, they followed me and they were like, what Ben said, is that true? He's like, what are you talking about? He goes, the edging thing, is that true? That ups your testosterone? Cam's like, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Everybody was like, oh, we got bored

doing it, I guess. I think it's good motivation to just watch some porn on the way to the gym. Or an old trick of mine, and I fall asleep right before the city. I'd listen to it when I went to bed and raised my testosterone at night. Put the headphones on. Some people listen to Mozart.

You listen to sex. I would do that. I heard that would raise your testosterone at night. That and a scoop of peanut butter. You eat a scoop of peanut butter. You eat a protein shake and a scoop of peanut butter. I read that somewhere when I was in eighth grade. I've done that ever since eighth grade.

I don't even think it's true. I have a protein shake and a scoop of peanut butter every night before bed because I read that. Somewhere in, I don't know, one of those little Netflix magazines. It kind of makes sense. Yeah, it's science. Good stuff. Good news. It looks like you guys

passed overrated, underrated. That's the first test ever passed. You got any underrated, overrated for them? How about Walt's drug? Overrated, underrated. Overrated. That is way overrated. We got a couple here for you.

What about the Badlands? They're probably underrated. I think underrated on the Badlands. I think they're underrated. They're cool to see. If you've never seen them before, it's definitely something you should check out. How about Mount Rushmore? I think it's underrated too, actually.

When you go, you get out there it's kind of mind blowing how big it is I don't know if you need to spend all day out there but I do think everyone should see it at least once Pepe's took us there like six times well if it's been a while if it's been a while you'd be surprised though it does kind of work

I think the Crazy Horse Monument is pretty awesome it's like six miles away right? it's farther than that, but it's way bigger, too. And they didn't finish it, though, did they? It's been going for like three years. But it's enormous. It's huge. That's one thing I know a lot about

history and geography. I love that kind of stuff. That's about it. I'm not going to mass sign none of that, but I like historic shit like this. I want to go to Deadwood. I've never been to Deadwood. You've got to go to Deadwood. Deadwood's a lot of fun. We go out there.

I was just there about two weeks ago. If you're going to get away or maybe do a little party in or just a little vacation thing, a lot of people head out to Deadwood. Yeah, gambling. Okay, overrated or underrated? Sturgis. The Rally?

Yes. sure okay overrated underrated sturgis the rally yes so i'm uh you know i've got a harley and i've been out to sturgis a number of years but i haven't gone any more recently and assless chaps well all chaps are assless is what people will say about that but um god this guy is smart yeah must be a banker i guess it's probably i don't know as someone that's been to a lot of i'd probably say it's a little overrated yeah it's probably overrated but it's still that's another thing that i think uh especially if you're into motorcycles and stuff it's something you got to see once just to see the insane amount of people around on bikes that weekend.

It's just crazy. Everywhere you go is just bikes as far as you can see. All right, I got one. Strip clubs, overrated or underrated? Strip clubs in South Dakota or strip clubs in general? We'll go in general. In general, strip clubs in South Dakota or strip clubs in general? We'll go in general. In general, strip clubs. We're drilling.

You guys make it? This is a hard one. I kind of feel like this maybe depends on how old you are too. Right. When you're 21, I think that goes against. It's so cool. It's fun. When you're 21, they're definitely underrated.

It's like, yeah, give me all the're definitely underrated right it's like yeah give give me all the money let's go anymore i'm kind of like well and some of them you know bad ones they're they are and if you know if you're a little too sober they can be pretty depressing in a way too you know that's why i love them yeah it can be a really fine line between a good time and um a place you don't want to be. What about South Dakota strip clubs? I mean, they've got to be terrible, right? They've got to be the worst. I remember my dad went to one in Wyoming,

Casper, Wyoming. When I was like 17, I was in a hotel and he comes back and he goes, that was the worst strip club, the worst little women I've ever seen in my life. And they didn't take their clothes off. Let's get out of here. Just in case any of the local talent are listeners,

we don't want to say too much bad about them. Do they get naked there? What's the deal? They don't go full nude. They just go down pasties. That's how it was 20 years ago in Wyoming. Grow up, guys. It's 22.

The exception to when they're better, though, is when it's opening hunting season and stuff. Places will bring in contractors. They'll fly in the town. Make the call. Call the hall. Load up the plane. It's what they do.

Do they have strip clubs in Aberdeen? There used to be two. There used to be two when I was growing up. Now there's just one. It's the world famous silver dollar. I tell you right now, we're going to cruise in there. I'm going to bench with you guys.

We're going right to the strip. It's like the world famous silver dollar. It's walking distance from the gym, actually. Oh, jeez. I'll park my trailer there. I'll have one of your wives watch my kids and we'll go to the strip. It's on our historic main street. It's right on main street, so it works out good.

I'm going to get into this place even joint. It's on our historic Main Street. It's right on Main Street. It works out good. I'm going to like this place even more. That might be our first stop. Before the gym. We'll go in there and get loaded and then we'll go bench. I think on Tuesday night there's a taco bar. We'll be there Tuesday then for sure. We love tacos. Alright.

Last one. Overrated or underrated? Steak bites. Chislik very underrated as good as an appetizer as they come it should be on the appetizer menu everywhere overrated underrated North Dakota overrated

yeah I think overrated Sarong Dakota is the main problem exactly so you think South Dakota is the better Dakota? It is. I think that's just a fact. I think even weather-wise, it's a little from the south, right? South Dakota.

I think by pretty much all standards, it's better. Yeah. I mean, North Dakota people always say North Dakota is better than South Dakota. You know how it goes. North Dakota is key to it all, right? It basically is. It basically is. It's close enough.

That's Saskatoon. Yeah. Saskatoon. Saskatoon. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Well, I've got to take a leak, guys. We're going to get the hell out of here. Oh, that's good. Finn can't hold his piss. I broke my garage door off.

I would have just left, but my garage door door he ripped off yesterday trying to get out of here, so now I've got to open the big garage door the door he and I ripped off yesterday trying to get out of here so now we've got to open the big garage door that's a whole other mess

now with this kit and everything else well this will be a good co-episode so this will be out on the Let's Get Stupid podcast and this will be out

on the Massanomics podcast so you can listen to it both places yeah so if you want to listen to the good version listen to Let's Get Stupid right we've got great stories

before this podcast and if you want to hear how it really went you'll have to listen to the good version, listen to Let's Get Stupid. We've got great stories before this podcast. If you want to hear how it really went, you'll have to listen to ours for the after commentary. Oh, yeah. The stuff we're going to make fun of us the whole time. The stuff we only talk about once you guys hang up. Shit, I forgot to listen to the end of it. Every time, I'm just like,

well, I'm done. I have to make sure I listen to the end of this one. Don't hear my voice. I don't want to be interested. I couldn't care less now. Is that about Finn? I listen to you in this one. Don't hear my voice. I'm not interested. I couldn't care less now. Is that about Finn? I'm done. This is bullshit. Is Karen coming out next weekend, you guys said?

Coming. I haven't even breathed a heart. Hardly knew her. No, she sounded like we're sending over some blank tees and some of the screens, and she's going to start pulling some tees for us, pulling some screens. She's trying to buy this what do you call that? Some machine?

It's like the KR3000. I mean, it costs more than all my vehicles combined, yeah. It costs more than my first house. It does like, I don't know, 100 shirts every 30 minutes or something. Don't spoil it. I'm like, we don't need that.

What are you trying to spoil her? Yeah. That's what she wants because then she doesn't have to drag any ache. Like, I remember she got on there, you guys drag age? You guys drag age, right? You're almost hurt? You got 10 to 9. I'm like, you guys don't drag age.

I just need somebody to talk to that has my business. How are your elbows, guys? We should have just told her yes so she'd feel better. Yeah, my elbows. I wear a brace. I wear a cock ring. We get it. Doesn't Pioneer sell those?

I got one, and I lost it at my wedding. Yeah, you lost it. I don't know where it's at. Well, I got a good place I'd check first. What did he say? I know where I would check first if you had a cock ring and you lost it. Where?

Well, in your wife's hoo-hoo. Oh, man. He's talking about your wife on the podcast. Actually, he's talking about Polar White. He's trying to claw my driveway. Load up the truck, Tommy. We're in North Dakota. Load up the Jeep in South Dakota. Jeep with no plow. We're coming your way.

Claw the road for us, please. Kick your ass. Alright. Good stuff, guys. Man, I got two orders for you, pal. Okay. Shut up, Karen. Alright. Later. Later. I said there's two of them. Does that mean they get an extra thank you

extra healthy two cool beans for each four total we want to spread the wealth there good stuff yeah you know what all that talking reminded me of tommy i'm guessing some type of advertising texas power bars we're talking about ernie franz being a pioneer of powerlifting how about this guy buddy Buddy Caps? He first started lifting weights in the late 60s and getting powerlifting in the mid-70s. That's pioneering already. He said, shove it, Ernie Franz.

Let Daddy Caps take over. At that time, he was working for Image Barbell Building Gym Equipment. Around 1976, a local machine shop started making Olympic bars for them and calling it the Image Bar. In 1977, Image Bar. In 1977, Image Barbell became Champion Barbell. It was then that Buddy started looking at the bars with an intent for changing them for the better. In 1979, Buddy bought his first lathe to begin addressing the known issues.

In 1980, his passion, drive, and purpose now had a greater mission. Buddy set out on his own to make what he believed was the greatest bar he'd ever seen and trained with, and the Texas Power Bar was born. What was it? It was strong as a house with the best early, and it was maintenance-free. Hundreds of state, national, international, and Chicago powerlifting records have been and continue to be set and broken on the legendary Texas Power Bar.

Check them out at TexasPowerBars.com. Just came out with the Monster Squat Bar, 66 pounds of monstrous bar. That thing is a monster. Yeah. It does make other bars look like toys. Should we say goodbye to these? Yeah, we're actually going to say

goodbye to the Discord because we got some top secret stuff to talk about. They can't know about early. They cannot know, so bye Discord. Oh, they're gone. Suckers. Losers. Now we got to come up with something top secret to talk about. Tanner, I just realized we haven't had the can yet.

I'm thirsty. It's not a what's in the can, but I'm very thirsty. So we're just going to get right into it. I could have used it for my little cough I always seem to develop right as soon as we start podcasting. You get that little tickle in there. Now I know why on the talk shows they always have those coffee mugs full of water, you know? Yeah. You just don't want to be caught off guard.

That's good. What do you think? Cranberry. I'm, I would have guessed cherry cherry of some sort. Yeah. The red is kind of, that's when I saw the red,

I couldn't help, but think cherry. I would have said cherry polar. Yeah. It's hard not to go there. It's darn good. Not as good as the uglies, but pretty cherry. I would have said cherry polar. Yeah, it's hard not to go there. It's darn good. Not as good as the uglies, but pretty good. You get spoiled on the uglies.

You do. Start hitting them uglies. Everything else is just different. That's what she said. Okay, top secret. Well, not top secret. By the time you're hearing this, it's now old news almost but it's old hat the new massonomics billboard is up it is it's beaut it's uh billboard 3.0 and how do you explain

the billboard tommy for those of you that haven't seen it yet you probably if you're listening to this podcast should i paint a little word picture here i I think so. So what we did, there's levels to this. There is levels to this now. Whereas before there was kind of a level or two, there's levels to this. Plural. So what we did, we bought a billboard. Unfortunately, we couldn't get the same spot we always wanted.

Apparently, someone bought a billboard for like two years out, which seems a little crazy. I'd say maybe even a little reckless with money. Coincidentally, it looks like it was the Let's Get Stupid podcast. It's bastards. So we couldn't get a regular spot. So we had to get the other side of the billboard. So you could say we flipped the billboard game 180 degrees, right?

Literally. So we're on the other side of our regular spot, but still a good spot. So this billboard, what we did is we made a billboard for a fake automotive dealer, for a fake car dealer. So we made a billboard for a fake car dealer called Dak Auto. And what we did is we graffitied

this fake billboard with Masonomic stuff. So I don't even have the art. I thought I had the art on my phone. I don't even have it on my phone. I've got, um, it basically says South Dakota's number one car dealer, right? Is that what we actually said now? I haven't looked at the code. Okay. Yep. So yeah, big words, South Dakota's number one car dealer. What we did is the number one, we crossed out and have a five scribbled in and where it says car dealer, it's crossed out multiple times and says podcast. So when you look at it,

if you read the graffitied letters, it says South Dakota's number five podcast. And then on the bottom of the billboard, where it says shop now at DACauto.com, it now says shop now at massonomics.com. The DAC auto is scribbled out, replaced with massonomics. Then there's a auto is scribbled out replaced with massonomics then there's a big salesman on the side of the billboard and the guy is very much a uh like a

stock image very much a stock image guy you'll actually recognize the guy gets used in memes all over online we got him big on this billboard and we drew some glasses on him we drew the squiggly mustache we drew a massanomics logo on his shirt. We wrote lift hard, live easy. And we also drew in a little speech bubble that says cool beans. Cool, cool beans. That says cool beans. And that's the billboard.

So what we basically did for this billboard is we made a fake auto business, put the billboard up, put fake graffiti on it with the hope that, I don't know, maybe someone will see this and be like, wow, someone put graffiti on that billboard. The mass and not massive. Who is your billboard? Yeah.

Someone needs to report this billboard. It's been vandalized. We'll get pictures with it. Actually, by the time this is up, we already have a picture with it. It should be on Instagram. And I don't know.

We think it's pretty funny. I think it's funny. And kind of also just, we don't want to just repeatedly do the same thing. Yeah, like we put funny quotes on it, and we'll definitely put funny quotes on a billboard again, but this is something a little different. It is always just kind of fun

to let these billboards be some dumb, subversive marketing thing that kind of doesn't make sense, and people have to be like, wait, someone paid money to put that up? Because I've got to be missing something here, because that doesn't make sense. To me, it's almost like you have to step the game up of it making less and less sense all the time like you do like uh especially on this track we're on it has to

continue to make less sense almost get more or be wilder and so be more into la la land every time and uh you know so we this was when we hit our 400th podcast review is kind of when we celebrated this it also coincided with our 300th episode. The idea we had to scrap. There was an idea. We really wanted to do the recreation of 300. Yeah, right, right, right. The 300 movie poster with us, which we can do a meme.

You can post a meme on Instagram of our heads crudely photoshopped on the 300 movie poster, and that's fine. But I'm sure warner brothers or whoever the hell owns the rights to 300 would not appreciate us putting up a giant billboard of the 300 art uh you know so gerard butler would yeah gerard butler would be coming after us so unfortunately we couldn't do that one but that would have been really really fun to do a 300 billboard we do do have a couple other good ideas in our pocket that we just the timing didn't quite work out right up

to so when we hit that 500 podcast reviews which i think we've already got like 407 ish okay we're already i think we're gonna say 470 for a second no if that's the case you better like order the next billboard because uh no i think there's maybe like 410 or a little less than that so yeah we we're not at a lack of ideas it was more of okay on the time crunch we're on and with the resources we currently have what can we make happen quick and this was the one that the idea that we thought was really funny that we could definitely do but there are some other really good ideas we do have a couple of good ideas um and if you want to see those good ideas next the the billboards do hinge on the podcast the apple podcast reviews that's the way steve jobs intended it get us on that road to 500 and here let me read a couple reviews that people have left as a good example as maybe

some inspiration for you this first one is titled five star review from mason lake 1731 he says very nice mustache man emoji next is from samuel n04 second review club i'm setting out to leave the most reviews left by a single person on the massonomics podcast if i had my druthers i'd say that's pretty cool beans very cool beans i think that's a good title to have, who can leave the most reviews, because you can only leave one per device or account. So you got to get on other people's phones. You got to start borrowing. That's what we need more people to do.

Help us get that push to 500 going. Start getting other people's phones. If you're an Apple family, it's really easy. You take your kids' phones, your parents' phones, your significant other's phones, grandparents' phones. We don't need to rely on new people listening to the show we know we can have these numbers we can leave more reviews yeah that's what amazon basically does on their reviews so those we'll do the same thing dirt bags and look how jeff

bezos ended up exactly uh next one's from hannah wife of the year titled a wife's duty. My husband ignores me to listen to the show weekly. He also developed a raging sparkling water habit due to these guys. He said that if my rating gets featured, we can sell all of our world assets to buy a pair of overpriced shorts. All right. Love from Western Northeast, Southern Illinois. Sounds lovely.

Must be nice there this time of year. That's a good review, though. I'll be looking for that pair of lift shorts to cross the website. Exactly. The podcast that refuses to quit. Project Artichoke 173 is who this is from. I accidentally bumped into this podcast by first discovering their apparel. After tearing my tricep out of meat and having it wrapped by Jonathan

Oldham. I inquired about his PBR powerlifting shirt. I then went to their website, ordered the deadlifter shirt, which I believe is causing my tricep to heal faster every time I wear it. Now I'm diving heavy into the super chill lift, hard live, easy style of podcasting for

my ears and training loving it he's loving it we should that should be a little slogan we do isn't that catchy that just came to my mind i think we have something there yeah i think we have something in the jingle business is this have you seen this meme format before i just i found this i'm like i like that image yeah that's a fun image isn't it yeah not great for the podcast audience because they can't see but i just saw that i screenshotted that i had on my phone i was thinking of what to make funny how you can just look at pictures and be like this picture has potential yes exactly if you look at this it's like yeah that yeah and i don't i didn't know if it was popular or not but if you either of us had seen it before it must not be but

doesn't that have just almost like endless very meme ability yeah um good good dig because that because what i i found this one when i was making this one i was trying to find that that uh template because i saw that somewhere else i like that too yeah yeah that's good so to see more memes like you're really not hearing about right now follow me if you want to do more than just hear tommy react to memes which we could do a whole episode of that just just tanner okay tommy tommy this one out and then and then you pull up middle class fancy to be like tanner you gotta check this one out no bet yes that's like me hit me again ha that's what my life is like i relate to that yeah he didn't say silly yeah i'm also middle class yep yep he didn't say it's not the heat it's the humidity

there is someone at my office that talks like that every day oh yeah yeah i did hear it's not the it's not the cold it's the wind i also go to work i have a job like is this don't at at me next time geez Jeez, guys. Dude, are these guys following me? Okay. So, yeah, our billboard. Come on. It's up for, we don't know how many weeks exactly, but probably a month or two. Yeah.

So, now's a great time. Don't wait to make that trip. Yeah, now's a great time to plan a trip to Aberdeen. Flights. We do have a Delta terminal here. You can fly right in after you'll get to stop in minneapolis and then once you're done in minneapolis you hop on the plane there and it'll scoot you right over to aberdeen what about a 30 minute flight you'll touch down and the billboard is within what five minutes of the airport so you can you can turn around get right back on the

return flight and leave if you want how about this free t-shirt to any non-South Dakota residents that post a picture of them at the billboard on the Instagram. I think that's totally fair. We'll even throw them free stickers. Yep, and free shipping. If you don't want to just take it while you're here. As long as you made it this far, you might want to pick it up. You post a picture in front of that billboard. And free day pass at the gym.

Yeah. But you have to be an out-of-state resident. That's roughly a $ thousand dollar value we can probably get a tax break on that actually yeah that's true all this charity we're giving away here some say you can't almost afford not to do it if you put sit down and put pencil to paper but uh with these billboards and everything i think it's important to highlight our overarching strategy here. We're going to take all the ships, rise them up, burn them to the ground. Burn them to the ground.

Once they're up, burn them. Once they're burnt, we're going to build an inverted pyramid to funnel everything back through. Into more billboards. And then a few more ships to build and then burn again to make a statement it's just like a big reasoning why we're secret ship builders it's just like the market for

more ships getting burned and built is where we profit it is but we've been shipbuilders this whole time we play both sides of it so we can't lose it really is just this endless cycle of building and burning and building and burning. We build the ships. Ha-ha. That's the part you didn't last expected. We also burn the ships, but we build those things too. We also run the local fire department.

So we make money from all sides. Yeah, on both sides. I did. I posted the two space or one space after a period on that. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it was definitely overwhelming. space or one space after a period on that. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it was definitely overwhelming. People said one space. Or it was like, I don't know, like a third, two thirds,

or like 70-30, something like that, in favor of one space. But it was surprising all the comments that people had on it. And all the people that, a lot of people like someone was like, this is a good example. Someone said, yeah, I'm in my NBA and our professors demand that you do two spaces because that's the professional standard.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And like, just like the people that said they're like in school now, are they also on a typewriter for their NBA? Yeah, I assume not.

But the people that there was a few people that said whatever they're in they have to do double space geez someone made the comment they're in they're in the 1950s what they're in someone said uh i do single space unless it's a paper that's uh of a certain length requirement and then i use double double space that's when you should do it that is the time to do it oh that's all like you could go in and change the font size by decimal places and like uh just change the spacing just by little you know you bring in the margins just so it's almost indiscernible characters are the widest yeah yeah that has a taller line height so yeah the lines a little bit yeah just yep little little tricks little tricks to hit that five page requirement everyone just wants a little more length don't they

join the club am i right is it funny now like do you think of a so what we call that a double space paper is that's what you always have to do right yeah yeah that's way too much space oh way too much space but also but that's what we had to do all of us. But like a five page double space paper. I remember thinking that seemed like a lot of writing. Right. I feel like I've written emails that are longer than that now. You know, like that's not that much writing in the scheme of things.

It's a pretty minimal amount, honestly. But when you're in the setting of something you don't want to do. Yeah. Where it's like, oh man. Just. Yeah. But I'm like, what do you grammar? Grammar and words matter here. you're in the setting of something you don't want to do yeah where it's like oh man just yeah but i'm like what grammar grammar and words matter here so like that i get the purpose of a lot of stuff in school isn't so much about the specific thing is more like proving you can just it is it

is yeah so i get that but in the terms of actually like writing creatively like because we do a lot of things where we have to write somewhat creatively at least in short bits you know we might not be writing essays but we do like small bits of yeah mathematics even does i would say we i didn't know if you're talking about people at your workplace and i was like really what type of creative writing i know i do a lot of writing but not creative actually i would love to know what type of creative writing at work my goal always is concise. Because some people are the exact opposite.

That should be the goal. And I'll often write something and reread it and think, how can I take sentences out of this or shorten up sentences? After you write an email, do you reread it usually a couple times? Always reread it a couple times. And then after you send it, no matter how many times I reread it before I sent it, always have to reread it immediately after i sent it okay unless it's just like i send a lot of meaningless emails all day long i don't do the reread one the only one i'll do a reread you

don't read it after you send it no the only time i'll ever go back after i send it is what email address did i send that to that's the only time i ever go back but i am also myself notorious for uh rereading an email 30 times before I send it. Like ones that are of ones that are of importance. Yeah. And like length. Like, yeah. Ones that have like, all right, this, this, there's a proposal in here.

Like there's thousands of dollars on the line. Like I don't want to sound like an idiot in any spot to give people a reason to be like, yeah, this guy can't even make complete sentences. So we don't need to give him money. So that's where I tend to reread things too many times. But also sometimes on the smaller ones, I catch myself reading them a few too many times too. Just depends.

It's probably better than the people that don't do that though at all. Well, because what I do is, I get a lot of information from people and a lot of it is very unclear. You could say to an extent that it's part of my job is to take bad information and make it clear and presentable so it makes sense to people. Right, right. Yeah, I just hate being that guy where someone could read it. Because that's what you do.

You read it and like, I can see how people could take this two different ways. All right, delete that out. Write it again. And yeah, you can't, like you almost can't be clear enough with things. No, true. Did we hear from the Strength Co. this week? No, I have Did we hear from the Strength Co. this week? No. I have an ad here still.

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that yeah it kind of is or isn't what you decided to be right absolutely so hop on become a sporting member join up and then buy all of all all of our stuff that we've got. Buy all of it. All of it. Actually, what... Look at the calendar here, Tanner. I feel like the month's really slipping away from me all of a sudden. It really is because we kind of... Wow, okay. Month of the... Yeah, we got something coming out this week, don't we?

We do. The week of this episode being released, I should say. Thursday the 20th is our plan the 20th of january something real cool we have coming out i don't think we can spoil it yet we're not going to spoil it of what it is we have a collaboration though coming out secret collaboration top secret never before seen never before done collaboration and there is some cool stuff in here i think this is going to be a win-win for everyone involved yeah we probably can't say who we're collaborating with but it's uh yeah it's uh

it's uh it's a company it's a company and they make stuff yeah they make stuff they even sell some things they make so it's it's going to be really cool be on the lookout for that thursday that's our plan unless that changes between now and then uh we got other uh one or two other things maybe to go along with that collaboration so and also drink spotters should be getting pretty close maybe not the week that this comes out but we're hoping like the week after that yeah yeah within we're hoping within the next two weeks before the end of january so if you've been on the way the drink spotter factory is just they have 300 men working day and night they're all swinging hammers like yep there's like nine guys holding a piece of metal and one guy's swinging on all this 12 gauge stainless steel made in america is uh really tight

in america it's really stiff they're just trying to get it all right to exactly the 12 gauge. Get the gauge out. Yep, 12 of them. We demand perfection. Get out that ruler and triangle and measure this damn thing. Get the compass and protractors. Which is which? Nobody knows. I don't know either.

Just measure it. Nobody can remember which is the compass and which is the protractor. They go hand in hand, but nobody uses either. Just get them both. measure it nobody can remember which is the compass and which is the protractor they go hand in hand but nobody uses either just get on both we don't have time to argue about it don't don't you remember at didn't at school didn't you always be like and make sure you have a compass and a protractor wasn't that a thing like in your i think it was actually kids of stuff you always had a have you ever like you're even in graphic design as, like, maybe something where you would possibly have use for a compass and protractor? Well, but it's all on the computer.

Right. Any angle you want to put, like, the computer does it for you. Right. Like, it's not, you know, just the computer does all of it. It doesn't really matter anymore. But do you remember? Yeah, I do. Barely, but I do.

Yeah. But, yeah, that's not a thing anymore. And the compass is the one that you spin with the pencil on the end? That's what I thought. And the protractor is the semi-circle. Yeah, the half-circle with kind of like the ruler and some other lines built into it. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't use this.

Did you ever take a drafting class? No, that was... I took a drafting class in high school. It was a lot of fun, actually. The closest we ever got to that was in our very first woodshop class. We'd kind of spend a little time, like, them showing you how you draw plans. Yeah. So ours was, like, half a year of mechanical drafting

and then, like, half a year of woodshop or something like that. Mechanical drafting was really cool. I was not particularly good at it but i do think that that was uh that was fun yeah i can i can totally see that yeah a lot of precision involved in all that stuff but hey when you have a protractor and a compass anything's possible the world is your playground when you have both of those in your little little little quiver of tools your little pencil case full of shavings and erasers like like someone was talking about trapper keepers a while ago i don't think we talked about it on the podcast but did you ever have a trapper keeper um i was not a trapper keeper really you really missed out on the trapper keeper i was really good accessory yeah i know a lot of people

had them most people that i knew that had them just had them filled with just shit like they were so unorganized. It wasn't so much a trapper keeper. Things falling out like they drop it every day somehow. Yeah, it wasn't so much like, hey, this is a great thing to have as much as like, oh, this is almost like another backpack that I can carry with me just full of stuff. Did you have like mandatory student planners in like school? We did.

And I was actually really, really bad about student planners. I was like, nope, I got this all in my head. And I was pretty good about that. really really bad about uh student planners i was like nope i got this all in my head and i was pretty good about that like i was i was a pretty good student and uh didn't really have to worry about the homework thing too much but now i'm the complete opposite as far as uh the planner thing goes we both kind of are we have 10 billion things written down for everything that's true okay that's why you have the compass so you can go full circle circle so i have two protectors on me so i can always just draw a full circle no worries there what is it do you use those in geometry right yeah

it's got to be but i mean i i remember like i don't remember using those like no i don't remember like um but geometry makes sense since it's all shapes right i mean i guess it's arcs and uh um i suppose i don't know if you would ever do anything in like uh any other uh i don't know i don't think you'd do any of that like calculus type stuff would you i don't i took free calculus and i don't ever remember take using a protractor or compass for anything yeah we use a lot of like um ti the the uh graphic calculators like i took physics and we took use the graph the shit out of graphing calculators and stuff that sort of thing yeah we've talked about the graphing calculators though right i don't know if we really ever have those have to not be used anymore or are they still using that same exact that's what like the fact that's such

an outdated thing the fact that those things were a hundred dollars then oh i'm sure they're probably that's appalling like yeah the fact that uh there can't like the p the damn chip in those things can't be more like the materials in that thing can't be more than about two dollars right right right you know why were they so expensive i don't know probably robbing kids and their parents like probably because they had like the entire like they had the monopoly on the market right right like they were the only ones they had the kids by the balls they did and you had to have those damn things i know like that like imagine all the parents that like probably didn't have the money for it and they're like no we have to have this yeah god why well because my son needs a thing to

put games on to play during class because just the regular one that he was writing on boobs upside down he came on fun enough uh that is funny to think about too that like that was as crude as those things were that it was still worth it to put games on them and try and play and that was still more fun yeah i remember like a knockoff mario game that on uh one of them how did you get the games on there i don't even remember that somehow god would you connect it to your computer or did those things have some type of memory card i don't remember now yeah i really don't but you would do so you had to connect it somehow to a computer you remember the clear version that you could see the insides of the calculator?

Oh, yeah, that's right. I feel like when I was like a junior is when they started to come up with kind of like this white and gray one. Maybe it was a little before that. But the old ones were kind of like black and very rectangular. They came out with ones that were kind of like a whitish gray plastic and had some curved sides. And sleeker. I think the buttons in the screen were all the exact same it's just the case on the outside is slightly different

i uh through college we always use the financial calculator and i still use those i have several like an adding machine well i do have it required for everyone to come to class with their own adding machine with the paper on it just type it away see adding machine is uh i didn't use that in school that was a post-school thing that I got on the adding machine. Would you say that was a post-school hack? That was. And like, I didn't know how to 10 key prior to my work. Yeah, I don't.

And, oh, it's just 10 keying on the adding machine is so much faster than like using a calculator. You're saying with those nice big mechanical buttons. Oh, yeah. It is like, I mean, I could go through a, you know, a mechanical buttons oh yeah it is like i mean you i could go through uh you know a spritz just eat it alive and it's funny you don't even have to look you know if you made a mistake you can almost just like uh it's just like typing it yeah you know it's just like typing it actually but uh except for like when that z comes up and you're like i don't hit that one too often where yeah Yeah, what is it?

What's bottom right pinky? Well, kind of like a bracket or a period of some kind. Okay. Yeah, those are the ones you don't like. Right, right. But also it's funny because I have to look at a keyboard here because I can't in my head actually envision what those... I have to almost like pick a word in my head and then I know like where my fingers would go. you're like all right just without looking put your hands on

a keyboard and type a period i'd be like i don't know if i can like i need to actually put my hand i just need and i just need to actually write a sentence and then the right and then it just naturally appears at the end somehow yep back it's all back to typing back with one space yeah the compass the protractor brings us all the way to a double protractor and it's the billboard that flipped a 180 but now we're flipping a full 360 um yeah so look out for our new stuff but buy everything else that we've got in sale for sale until then like us on youtube make sure to subscribe on youtube tell a friend about the podcast we'd love to get more ears on this if you're someone that's coming over from the let's get stupid podcast and checking us out for the first time we're glad to have you

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