Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 332: Massenomics Powerlifting Meet?

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

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along and um you can get in there it's like the question feature through the instagram story so massonomics instagram and then also we do always tip off our discord crew that this is going on so you can um they can really pepper it yeah they they and they do i'm looking at the list right now i already see a bunch of discord fellers in here so and women all right okay let's get in there question one was the stocks and sock segment a hint at massonomics deadlift socks i don't they would call that foreshadowing in uh in the literary sense there so to answer your question no it wasn't i don't think i don't think that's uh was our intention with that no i don't think so but also take from it whatever you might yeah you can read between

those lines as far as you might want to read you can read between them lines real good so you never know who knows uh maybe maybe it has something to do with socks someday or maybe it has something to do with uh massonomic being a publicly an ipo yeah you could say you were there first i would want it to open at 69 dollars per share and then after the first day of trading it jumps to 420 dollars a share ah yes and then the second day hi and then the second day the second day it drops back to 69 and then the third day and then you have the 420 again and then you're like hi wow this is just going between crazy numbers here buy low and sell high because like 420 is like yeah yeah nice most oh and that was

from uh big chris good good good start off batter there yeah chris next question is from uh big john roy not the john roy of mass and i'm a gym yeah there's also a john roy that's a frequent commenter and there's two there's two john roys they've actually even had that's even happened in the comments that one of them has commented and then there's been a like wait there's two john roys so yeah they're aware of each other i think think of them looking and being exactly the same so this is not uh the massonomics jim j roy of western northeast south kota this is but another uh you know a massonomics yeah a massonomics hombre so they're basically the same yeah i don't know the difference okay both of them probably stand up gentlemen i I know I got a local one better,

but with a name like John Roy, how could you not? I don't know. Decent. Okay. Most useful specialty bar for a power lifter with a home gym. I, I think actually specialty bar.

I think it's, there's not a question mark at the end. So, but I still think it's a question. It's not a statement. They were it's... There's not a question mark at the end, but I still think it's a question. It's not a statement. They were just staying. It's not just a portion of a sentence. Like a really poorly worded sentence. Most useful specialty bar for a power lifter with a home gym.

Yeah, you're like, well, what's the subject of this? Whatever is the subject of this question? That's just a sentence fragment so i do and i've probably seen things lately that have made me think of this and even what we've talked about i think the most helpful thing with a specialty bar is deciding either if you have a certain weakness or an injury that you're working around to me that's where specialty bars are their best like do you have a like a weakness like a weak point that you think a specialty bar could help yeah or do you have an injury that you're working around. To me, that's where specialty bars are their best. Like, do you have a weakness, like a weak point that you think a specialty bar could help?

Or do you have an injury that you think a specialty bar could help? And then I would say get that specialty bar. Because to just say, oh no, get like a football bar. Why are you doing that? That's the important question. Or like a pretty general one is like, oh no, you need to get a safety squat bar. Not that I'm a gold standard for squat, Or like a pretty general one is like, oh no, you need to get a safety squat bar. Right, right.

Not that I'm a gold standard for squat, but I was able to squat 550 pounds or 540 pounds with like using almost zero safety squat bar. Just a power bar? Everyone's different. So that's why I think you just got to look at where, you know, what you think a bar could bring the most benefit to. That's my view on it. I would say, just to define the terms,

we would not consider a deadlift bar to be a specialty bar, correct? Because if you would say that, if you happen to consider that a specialty bar, and you're a powerlifter, and you compete outside of anything other than IPF, I would say, yeah, a deadlift bar would make sense. bar even then you have to put a lot of qualifiers on you're like okay are you a power lifter and that's still asking all those questions uh and i'll say like do you deadlift over 500 pounds because it also doesn't even make it more relevant um because i like a

deadlift bar but then i'm just thinking about the I'm just thinking like if I'm literally just going to base on it if it was my home gym what I would uh if I'm a power lifter and I'm in a home gym what's the first one I would buy it's not going to be something for my bench press because I don't use specialty bars on the bench actually wait a second I'm going to rephrase this I actually might be completely wrong based on what I do I it wouldn't be anything for the deadlift don't use specialty bars on the bench actually wait a second i'm gonna rephrase this i actually might be completely wrong based on what i do i i it wouldn't be anything for the deadlift if we're ruling out what are your options are like a trap bar yeah we have like the kabuki we also have an old school trap bar a hex bar but i don't particularly use those tools all that much

so it wouldn't be that and that's what's funny is because right now the only specialty you use that all the time i've been using the the kabuki trap bar so if it's you the answer would probably be a trap like right now this instance it would be but i've never used one in my life until a few months ago yeah um to me it comes down between the squat and the bench on what i use so on the bench if you ask me it's not a multi-grip bar or a football bar or anything like that it would be it would be the bamboo bar and i would actually buy the earthquake bar and that's the one that and that's a great example i think right there is yeah would you recommend that if you didn't have any no shoulder or pec pain no and that's the same thing like if you have shoulder and pec pain i

think the earthquake bar is an amazing bar to get right um like it's helped me a lot with shoulder injuries over the years it It's like allowed. It's even like as much mental as anything because it still allowed me to do something that's quote unquote challenging or hard. But it does. But yet not like loading, only loading a fraction of the total weight. So it's like saving wear and tear. And they are a fun specialty bar too. I would say one of the funnest specialty bars to use.

Almost like a little underrated. I think so too. i'll say this too those bars out of all the specialty bars in the gym do get used quite a bit like and we say those we're saying the rhino bar we have the rhino and the and the earthquake and i see the earthquake bar get used the most the one where you literally hang that one has more of the novelty yes yes and i see those get used quite a bit but it's for a lot of people for the same purposes they're using it because they're working around and we have a lot of guys in the gym that bench 400 plus pounds yep which you usually don't get there without getting a little banged up along the way right uh so yeah they do get used to and

they do i've never ever had shoulder pec pain problems yep so I've never gone through like long stints of using them. But I will say that the times I have used them, I do have a lot of fun using it. And you 100% will be focusing on your shoulder tightness like you never have before. Yeah, you get humbled really quickly. Also, those bars aren't that expensive. It's another pro.

I would say I think they cost about 300 bucks. Maybe it's a little more. Back when we bought ours, I think that's what it was but uh so that's for the bench i would consider that but then uh i also use special specialty bars on the squat a fair amount because uh there this is also related to my shoulder from low bar squatting i get shoulder pain that then would affect my bench press so a lot of times in lieu of low bar squatting i'll rotate in other bars we just so happen to have the mars bar of them the kabuki transformer bar the elite fts safety squat bar you know the three three probably nicest uh options there and if i was so you if you're gonna ask me if i would just buy one of

those that's a very hard question to answer i don't know i like all of them for separate reasons and i guess we're fortunate that we have all of them and i use all actually we also have the the kabuki uh duffalo bar which i would also kind of put in that category. Yep. I haven't seen that one get used a ton lately, so that's why. Yeah. I have been using it right now because I switched from the Mars bar to that as a transitionary thing where, like, can my shoulder handle this? Yeah.

Because it's more like a barbell squat, but yet, like, still, like, not putting my shoulder in quite as compromised. So as far as for me, for specialty bars, probably the two specialty bars I have the most experience with would be the Elite FTS Safety Spot Bar and the Kabuki Transformer Bar. Yeah. And I like both of them a lot. And I would say if you have either one of them, they're both great.

What is the price difference, though? Do you know off the top of your head? Is the Elite FTS, is that like around 300 ish i think it's it used to be about that but i'm guessing it's more like 400 now would be my best transformer bar is it's probably more like five or six hundred i can't remember you know we bought all of them i don't know if it was like 800 or um it actually might now that you said that it might be more like 750 let's see here i kind of forget because it's been a while. Yeah, so price is a factor, right?

You know, that's a consideration. Well, especially when you're talking a home gym. And the Mars bar is also like $700 or $800. So it's also very expensive. I guess I would say the Elite FTS Safety Squat Bar. So the Transformer bar is $700. Yeah. yeah and uh just for comparison's sake the elite uh the ss yoke bar is 345 so is the kabuki bar twice as good if i was doing my own home gym so luckily we're at massonomics yeah yeah money

isn't really a thing there's no object it just doesn't matter um but in my home gym i don't know if a kabuki transformer bar would be twice as good to me as an elite fta like in the idea that you're if you had 750 to spend i would actually take that 750 and split it on two things like yeah i'd buy that late fts safety squat bar and the earthquake bar or something yes i think that would be a much better use of the money if money doesn't matter then yeah get i if you're just like oh no i i don't care i just want the cool thing yeah the transformer bar is the cool thing and you can do more stuff with it okay i think that's a pretty good answer to that question don't you think but yeah so i think the takeaways there get it get a specialty bar built around your weaknesses or an

injury yeah not just like oh for sure this one's really cool like no i don't i think that's the worst way to do it i i agree um luckily we just buy them all well and for the mess exactly but there's some my thought is there's someone here that that's actually why i buy it because i'm like there's someone here that this injury or this thing they're working around it will benefit them but we can tell you firsthand having all of the toys the only ones you go back to are the ones that you're literally using because you're either having a ton of fun with it or you're working around an injury or a weak point yeah it's all the new ones show up and everyone uses it for like a month and then it just goes to these people that the only people that use it are like the people that

need it as part of their training. Yep, that's true. This next question is from JM Fleischman. When are you guys going to interview The Great One? The Great One. The Great One is, to me, The Great One means Wayne Gretzky. And I don't know who The Great One would be besides Wayne Gretzky. Isn't Wayne Gretzky isn't Wayne Gretzky the great one I thought so I think uh yeah it's not Calruf Jr it's right here that's when I type in the great one Wayne Gretzky it's well I'm not that big of a hockey fan I mean he'd be cool to talk to but I have like so minimal hockey knowledge that it would be a bad person to interview.

Funny thing. Anecdotally, we've noticed if we had Wayne, based on what we know, if we had Wayne Gretzky on, what would our number, what would the download numbers be? It'd be an average episode.

It would be, we know for a fact, which is insane. We've had people that have channels with millions of people yeah and their episodes and if they don't align as well with with our with what our particular audience is into yeah it doesn't matter the name doesn't carry a less popular power lifter will beat them every day yeah every day yeah so yeah the names, it doesn't matter. So I guess

the answer is when, probably never. If it is in fact Wayne Gretzky. I'd have to really brush up on hockey. Oh God, I'd have to do a lot. Yeah. Next one is Bacon and Beer Bells. Spons sponsored athlete here big jonathan oldham

massonomics gym is on fire what's the one thing you grab and save and this is from uh a fireman well the guy that knows what to do about fire i'd grab my phone and leave that's the only personal belonging in there, really. That's what I would grab. What if that doesn't count, though? If we're saying my shoes don't count and that stuff, it's like, oh, grab an item out of the gym. Right, like something that's just like a gym item. I mean, if you've got to grab a gym item.

Or something on the wall. Okay, so maybe we'll slip it. You got to grab a gym item. Or something on the wall. Okay. So maybe we'll slip it. If I got to grab a gym item. Something you got to can actually be able to grab to. Yeah. You can't say I'm taking the rack. I'm taking the ghost truck.

It's like, well, no, you're going to die in that fire. Go down with the ship. A Texas power bar. That's a that's a go to. Also, there's a lot of sentimental uh we've got sentimental blood sweat and tears into those texas power bars that have been in there we do so that'd be that'd have a pretty strong argument for that one what about for you for a gym item that is super hard that's what she said. Gosh. One thing. I don't know.

I'm trying to think of like what we just. It's almost a trick question because it's like, oh, Tommy, you're going to grab the Texas power bar. Trick question. It's strong as a house. It survives the fire. You wasted a pick. That's true. Like some of that.

We're just thinking the steel stuff. It's going to pretty much make it through that steel. It's going to be burned. It's that steel. It's going to be burned. It's like, oh, a fire in the Massanomics gym basement. Fire, you picked the wrong place. There's nothing flammable in here. It's all stainless steel. From a comedic perspective, maybe I go drink spotter.

Okay, okay. So there's a fire in the one. Just in case someone happens to be recording me, it'd be a great Instagram post. The gym was on fire. I grabbed the drink spotter. Maybe I would grab, you know,

the red banner that's been up there the whole time. Or maybe I'd grab the hand painted from Chris Hale. Those are really cool too. The Massanomics gym. Cause if I'm like, oh, if Massanomics gym is go up on flames, maybe I want the thing on it. The cool hand painted sign that says Massanomics gym. Just so i'm like off massonomics gym is go up on flames maybe i want the thing on

the cool hand-painted sign that says massonomics gym just so i'm like well that this can go yeah right right that's what i kind of thinking of or yeah uh the poster of larry or something like that like the poster of larry is like a close second yeah a very honorable mention because the bars and stuff i don't know you know they are easy to replace though or even any of the equipment maybe or maybe i grab one of the strength co 45s that'd be cool but at the same time like those are easily replaceable it is so yeah if we're saying like grab something that is sentimental though it's definitely something on the walls yeah everything else in there is like the ghost bench at this point can't really be

replaced but you're not taking that out in a fire either so right right uh a gym is tricky in the Everything else in there is like the ghost bench at this point can't really be replaced, but you're not taking that out in a fire either. Right, right. A gym is tricky in the fact that a lot of things can be taken out. Yeah, some of the paraphernalia on the walls, I guess, would be what I lean towards. Good question. Very good. That's a real thinker.

Real thinker. Who do you think you are? I mean, I think we get that question just about every time. That's from Garage Gym Updates. I don't think we have to answer it. We probably answered that one before. From Austin Turner, recent winner of the Gold Drink Spotter, he said, why is there still no goddamn varsity jackets? Well, you can't release a jacket when it's 104 degrees outside.

That's true. In this humidity? The thing would be soaked and then it'd shrink. You can't release a jacket when it's 104 degrees outside. That's true. In this humidity? Yeah. The thing would be soaked and then it'd shrink. You can't do it now. No, you'd have to get that thing dry cleaned weekly. Yeah. Do you know how much dry cleaning costs these days?

Because I don't. I don't. I don't know how much it costs any day. Probably a lot, though. From that mofo guy, what would happen if you drank your LaCroix ice cold and consumed your beans hot? Oh. I don't think I want to find out. That sounds like a disaster.

Yeah. Probably have something coming out of one of these ends. Maybe both. That's what really gets you when it's both at once. That is the worst. That is really bad. That is the worst. You're on the toilet. Everyone's is the really bad is the worst you're on the everyone's probably been there at least you're on the toilet and your mouth you don't know what to

do sweating and you're like oh god no no no no what part of me is getting dirty what part of the floor is getting dirty this next one is from Patrick Karkoff. Who's the worst, in quotations, worst guest you've had on the podcast? So quotes make this hard. Am I supposed to say who is actually our worst guest? Who's the worst? So I don't know actually what the quotes mean. Quotes are a tricky thing.

Usually it's like figuratively. I was like, well, what is... It's like notatively yeah it's like oh what is um like it's like not really the worst wink worst um i don't know i don't we haven't really had anyone that's been like a bad guest yeah it's just been maybe as bad as it gets is like oh maybe there's like a guest where we're not like aligned. Not that we're not aligned, but we're just, we don't necessarily see things in a similar light. And there's nothing wrong with that, but it's in a way that's not maybe makes for a less than interesting show. I don't think I could bring myself to throw anyone under the bus.

No, I couldn't because I wouldn't say we've ever had a bad guest. I've got a, you know, I could think of a handful if we wanted i'm not gonna say them because i'm just not gonna do that you know that's not those people all took the time they did so uh and they were respectful and like no one no one has ever no we've we've never had anyone that you get done with any like well that son of a bitch you know know, like, you know, there's nothing like that ever. Okay. Where are the quotes around worst or guest? Let me double check. Worst. Oh,

okay. Cause I was gonna say if they're on guest, you could say, well, there's a guest. Well, guest, like as in,

they actually weren't a guest. Oh, right. Right. So, right. We have been ghosted once. Yeah.

Oh, actually I shouldn't even say once. We've been ghosted twice. Oh, we've been ghosted twice by one individual, I shouldn't even say once. We've been ghosted twice. We've been ghosted twice by one individual. So in theory, I guess that would make that person the worst guest because that didn't happen. That would be hands down for sure. Everyone else, we've had great guests.

And everyone's been cool about it. The worst you could say has ever been like, well, maybe they're not on the same page with everything and that's totally fine we're just like uh that's not the way we like to have a conversation well and it's not even that or it's not even so much like it wasn't fun it's just more like ah this might not resonate with our audience is actually a lot of times the takeaway it's like right hey we had a fun time but i can see how some of our listeners won't be interested in this like that's's actually about as bad as it gets if we get done with an interview and think that. Yeah, I agree.

It doesn't happen often though. No, no. And overall, overwhelmingly, I really enjoy like a huge percentage of all of them that we do. It's almost like we get to kind of pick who the guests are or something. Yeah, yes, yes. have to kind of pick who the guests are or something yeah yes yes from uh mostly squat videos matt possible prizes for the 2023 massonomics invitational powerlifting meet oh well the prizes that's where we could really um light the world i really do some creative stuff uh well obviously there's gonna be a lot of massonomics goods yeah we haven't said that

this is a picture of thing to clarify that it's real um but that's part of the setup that's right up our alley you know that's the part of it that is really fun like deciding things like prizes because who knows what we could come up with uh i think it's safe to say old west barbecue sauce would be involved it always historically has been right yeah winners will be receiving cases or gallon jugs of old west barbecue try getting that back on a plane sir why do you have four gallon jugs of barbecue you don't have to drink have you ever had old west barbecue sauce you have to either drink it or throw in the trash and everyone's gonna drink it so yeah i'll do it i gotta do it um so yeah i mean yeah we would have a great time with prices that would be

one of the i never thought about it right now that would be one of the more fun parts of that would be of the whole thing that would be maybe there'd be checks involved checks various sizes yeah maybe the bigger the prize the smaller the check I like like second gets the third gets the largest physical check so big and then of the smallest amount by the time you get to the winner they just get an actual real check is all no what if the checks are actually smaller than a real check okay you know like a tiny check yeah like you get this tiny fake check for five hundred dollars i think we're onto something yeah yeah and then we'll take a picture each holding our fingers on it shaking hands you know each holding a corner

people are like what are they why are they touching their fingers you have to zoom in no no there's a check they're not touching their fingers there's a check in there oh like honey I shrunk the check I like that idea it's great for photo ops

because everyone's like they see the third place check and like, whoa, that's the third place check? What's the big one look like? Like, where, what, oh, what? It's all about subverting expectations. Big Kevin RSG. Thoughts on the American Pro? Answer this first and take like 20 minutes like you did with World's Strongest Man that one time. Well, we already talked about that last episode didn't we yeah we did so just synopsis one sentence it seemed like a really really great meet and there was a lot of big lifts it seems

like it was well done that was a run-on sentence but yeah one sentence one one poorly constructed sentence you didn't stop to take a break so i'm gonna say there was no periods there so you did you did follow your one sentence that if you saw on paper you would say this person does not understand does not do english well it's three sentences but there was only one period so yeah i guess it's one next is from evan shelton how accurate do you think you all could do an ad without looking at the paper oh sometimes i think about that what ad would you try to do i'd have to do the texas power bar ad yeah um i haven't read that one for a while i was on that one again for a while and now you've been back on it so i'd be rusty on that one it's the weird thing is though is it's in front of me when i read it but i'm so kind of an autopilot that i'm

not actually paying that close of attention to the words and i know i would mess i know i'd mess up the years that'd be the yeah in 19 yeah i'd i'd mess up the years the most part and then i'd need help like every fifth word the more i was trying to do it the worse i would probably yeah because that's what i'm starting to think about it now and then i don't know what i yeah that'd be the one to try though. I think, right. It's the Texas power bar ad. So not that good.

Midwestern Jake from state farm. If you had to choose one LaCroix for the rest of your life, which would you choose? It says, which lift would you choose? But which LaCroix would you choose? It says which lift would you choose, but which LaCroix would you choose? I think I'd go lime. Because this isn't the only thing you're going to drink

for the rest of your life. It's just what flavor would you pick. What if it's the only thing you... Well, if it's the only thing, then I'd maybe... Well, you can't... I'm going to make the rule to this that you can't say the unflavored one i was going to say i would definitely take the clear you can't say clear if it's the only one

you get to drink because if i really if i could only drink one thing i would for sure take that because i'd get so sick of everything else but if we're going to say you have to pick a flavor and i could only drink this is the only thing i can drink the rest of my life i'd pick lemon because it's just inoffensive enough it's fresh it's neutral enough i'd go lemon but if it's i can pick one lacroix for the rest of my life if i have my choice of lacroix i'm gonna pick lime for you know the uh the flavored beverage yeah gosh i feel like i don't know that's like writing the line well i guess i would i'd like what you said about lemon i think i would pick lemon based on what you actually just said there.

Because it's like, you go to a restaurant, people get lemon water. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That's why I think I would pick lemon. You can't go with like. Well, what about Pamplemousse? No, that's too much flavor all the time. I'd get sick of it, though. Yeah, I know.

It's too much. I think lemon. I like lemon for that reason. This is a great time to have our what's in the can. Oh. Do you think people like it when we talk about La Croixix and we're like that's too much flavor not that much flavor that's too much when you taste it and you're like I can't tell if there's a flavor here yeah that's way too much too much very very it's all relative but uh this is a special edition of

what's in the can you need to You need to get that blindfold on. Suit up. Barney Stinson, suit up. Regulators. It's so special that it's not in a can. It's in a bottle tanner, so I need to pour it into the super special limited edition Masonomics podcast cups just this week.

So if you don't know what these are, you missed out they're gone but uh it's a when we ran our limited edition was it 300 episode box set yes yeah so we had these the silly cups the silly pint cups 32 episodes and my son has now is at the point he's two yeah and we'll be sitting at the dinner table he's a big boy he'll go daddy tanner daddy tanner and he'll point at the cup and we're like yes that is daddy and tanner on the cup and it goes fun yeah it is pretty fun he's wise beyond his ears yeah yes smart boy okay so i have a bottle here that I have to crack open. We're going to pop bottles.

We are popping bottles. I really hope this doesn't spill on me. Oh, good. Okay. Dent. I don't know what those noises were. That was a bottle cap. I'm like in a sensory deprivation chamber with these headphones and blindfold on. I don't know where I am anymore.

You got to wait for me because I want to taste it at the same time as you. So here's the cup. Reach your hand out gently I didn't fill it up very full okay wait for me before you do any smells or anything because I want to

I know what this is but I want to experience it have you ever had it before I have not had this okay let's go for a smell here it's not getting a whole lot of smell it smells like the

silicone cup yeah it kind of just has the silly pint smell does kind of get over from the dishwasher a little bit. Okay, I'm going for the taste. Hmm. Hmm.

I had to tip the cup way farther than I was expecting, so I just kept going. I'm like, when is it is this empty is it is that the trick let me I gotta try that again this is interesting I'm I'm confused I have no idea what this is like in the sense of like, especially at not being in a can for me to be able to judge like shape or feel or anything of a can. Do you,

do you feel like there's like an after, an after flavor, an after sensation? Yes. Like a burn in the back of my throat. Okay. I wasn't going to say say it is there alcohol in this no there's no alcohol i was gonna say the burn as well do you want a hint that does play into

the flavor let me just say what this like obviously i feel like this is way not relevant like when i first tasted i almost get like an orange cream taste at first okay but that burn makes me feel like um like big red chewing gum like what's that cinnamon flavored yeah so that's that's what what i'm noticing so far okay do you want to take a blindfold off oh should i take it off well do you want to keep guessing i that's i don't know even know what i don't think those are bad guesses okay that's what i'm feeling like uh orangey creamsicle but like there's some burn at the end here okay you take the blindfold off and you can read the bottle buffalo wing soda lester's fixins buffalo wing soda so that would be the spice at the end right okay um so i wasn't gonna guess that now was

i so that's kind of gross yeah the idea of it also has 42 grams of pure cane sugar in here so whoa lots of sugar to i'm glad you didn't it is orange in color it is it is um so lester Fixin's artificial buffalo wing soda original it also says pure cane sugar and then it says y'all get your Fixins do people want that so do you want to know what adds to the mystery of this

Tanner is tonight my family and I we went for a little walk we went for a walk through the neighborhood. And when we came back to our house, in my garage, sitting in the driveway, was this... Tonight. So someone that knows we record on Wednesdays?

Like 7.15. Yeah. This bottle sitting in our garage. Like just while you were gone. In our open garage with this note taped to it. And it says for tanner what's in the bottle slash can i have no idea where this came from i have no idea i do not know this bottle is just sitting in our driveway and i don't know it's interesting that it's in

your driveway and it says for tanner i know i i i don't know um leah thought that maybe this was my brother's handwriting I always thought his handwriting was a little messier than this I mean I have did somebody has anyone mentioned this to me before like that I'm just forgetting now I don't know like I don't really

want to drink more of this oh yeah so with that with that in mind I knew we need to cleanse the palate so I also I don't really want to drink more of this. No. Oh, yeah. So with that in mind, I knew we'd need to cleanse the palate. I also brought some backups here in case. You can dealer's choice on that one. I really like those, but I've been drinking a lot of those lately. Not that I really need another sparkling water, but I'm thirsty and we didn't have any bottled water. That leaves a funny taste in your mouth cleanse the palate much better there

oh yeah um what do you give that so first of all does it taste like buffalo wing i think i'd have to really like chug a bunch to really get it all in the flavor system but i don't know there's like a spice at the end but it's so much sugar there's 42 grams of sugar in there um i don't know. There's like a spice at the end, but it's so much sugar. There's 42 grams of sugar in there. I don't know. I'd give that thing like a two, right? Yeah, it's bad, right? It's like you don't want to drink that thing. Let me take a picture of that to put on our Instagram.

It's without a doubt one of the most unique cans we've ever had. It looks like Warren Buffett on the, like Lester. Maybe Lester is actually Warren Buffett all along. Yeah. That's how he made it. That's how he got rich. That's how he made his fortune. And we get quite the lineup of liquid death and Lester Vixens here. Where's it bottled at?

I like what you're thinking here. Get to the bottom of this mystery. It is a product of the USA. It is carbonated artesian spring water. Oh, it is flash pasteurized for stability and safety. That makes me feel better. Bottled in Incline Village, Nevada. Okay.

I bet we'll get to the bottom of who the culprit is behind this. From the Rocket Fizz Soda Pop and Candy Shop. Yeah, I don't know. We know it's someone local because the mailman doesn't leave leave notes and put one bottle doesn't leave notes at your house with my name in the open garage yeah yeah so who knows we'll find out at some point okay not great though tasting a fun idea doesn't taste all that good okay i'd actually rather just eat my hot wings wings are good i love wings amazing next back to a question then what do you think

um from k goody 66 when you go on vacation or travel, do you find time to lift? And if so, how do you find a gym? I do not. I don't do it when I go on. Well, first of all,

I don't go on vacations that are like seven days long. Yeah. I've like, I never do that. Um, it's harder to do when you have kids and stuff. Yeah. True.

It's just as harder to do that. Yeah. Uh, I haven't got on a ton of vacations in like the last two or three years anyways but um every vacation i've been on probably the last two years has been at the longest five days and usually to me vacation is yeah it's about getting away and doing something but it's also like oh yeah let's just let's just get rid of everything so i usually either sneak a few i actually do it both ways i sneak a few extra workouts in ahead of time yep and then a i'll sneak some extra ones in once i get back and if

one or two have to fall through the cracks then that's just how it works but usually i don't really miss much on a vacation i used to do that but you did you go to some yeah cool gym it's kind of pre-massanomics gym actually i used to be well that's the thing that i used to like to go to cool because people would say oh you go to cool gyms and all that i'm like but we kind of have like as cool as they don't have anything we don't have it's it's nothing it's not that exciting at this point it's just well you're just going to a it's just the environment at that point right um because we have all of the cool stuff like there's a few really weird little things but well you're just going to a it's just the environment at that point right um because we have all of the cool stuff like there's a few really weird little things but it doesn't

excite me enough to go to and i some people like to just go like oh i just need to like get a little pump on and do it i don't need to do that like i like very much like to stick to my other problem and i've talked to this and it's about that where it's like, I used to like, well, that's, I'm so used to having like all my stuff. Like we have, we all have our own locker of like our own, like, I don't want to drag all that with me. I want like,

I want the right shoes. I want my knee sleeves. If I do squat, I want the belt I like to use. I want to bring my wrist straps. Like I want all of my stuff. And that's a whole nother bag of shit to that. Yeah.

And I, back in when I was younger, I used to be more like, I, I do this on Mondays. I want to do my stuff. And that's a whole other bag of shit too then. Yeah. And back when I was younger, I used to be more like, I do this on Mondays. I want to do that on Monday. I do this on Wednesday. I'm going to do that on Wednesday. So if I'm on vacation, I'm going to figure out how to do that. And I changed my mentality on that more.

I really almost never missed. Looking more at the macro. That's true. That's exactly true. And I really never still miss training days i just bump them up before and like i'll play it like i'll start adjusting two weeks ahead of time if i have to to just like or i do it ahead of time that or another way too is like if i know i'm just gonna miss a day and i cannot make it yeah i've come it's like all right well let's salvage the

compound lifts and then we'll rest all right instead of having four accessories on both days yeah i'm just gonna drop those i'm just gonna take two from each day and split it it's like okay accessories can drop out missing uh shoulder raises for one day is not going to make or break anything yeah as long as i'm still benching and squatting or dead lifting so that's yeah that's how I look at it. From Big Brand, what temperature are cool beans kept at? Well, I kind of almost think of it more as a state of mind than an actual. Than a really temperature. Than a real temperature. Yeah.

But, you know, to be cold, it's got to be under 50 degrees for sure. I'd almost even say under 40 degrees. Yeah, it's cool. Beans, cool. cool yeah i would say not freezing though is that too cold i think so yeah yeah we're not talking frozen beans okay just cool beans yeah so somewhere between 40 and maybe maybe up as high as 60 even 60 maybe sounds kind of warm that is is, I think like 40 to 50. Yeah.

I think even just in the forties is a pretty good, that's cool. Yeah. You know, I'm not wearing a, you know, you can maybe run outside for a little bit. You'd not,

not wear a coat and you're not going to be frozen, but it's all, it's like, Oh, it's a little cool. Wow. Yeah. So yeah,

in the forties, uh, keeper of the gains would people on the west coast call the midwest mid-east because to them the rest of the country is east i i get the logic here it probably goes back to what what is the origin of the term midwest actually and as much as this has been brought up i don't know where where did that originate i'm not sure where the where that you know first uh like was the idea so it's an odd thing it is because it's like yeah why is there why is it mid west out of all the mids we could go mid every direction why is midwest what was the idea that all right here's the east coast and everything west is kind

of like no man's land so actually i, I think that's why it starts, because everyone everything started from the East and went over. So it's like, well, we're not going West. But what was the West then? It's where 50 went. Yeah. So, yeah, it was West, not Missouri. But like at some point, you know where Missouri was either. Right, right.

Maybe it didn't start until after we'd gotten all the way to California. And then they made the Midwest. And then it was like, no, I'm like, oh, you headed west? I'm like, well, kind of, like Midwest. You know, like, oh, you headed out there west too? Well, not California. I'm just going to stop in Iowa. So, oh, just Midwest.

Yeah. Mid, kind of west. I think that theory, just based on what we we're saying makes a lot of sense to me i we cracked whether it holds any waves it's yet to be seen nobody will ever know and then follow-up question can south dakota be considered midwest even if it's actually mid north i mean something could be midwest and mid north at the same time yeah yeah i don't think there's any rules well you can go up and down on the there's also places in the midwest that are have parts farther north than us you know true minnesota

goes farther north than true north dakota goes farther north minnesota goes farther north there's probably parts of michigan yeah the upper peninsula i don't know they're probably actually far south of us but yeah they might be especially when you figure out the the curve of the is that which way is longitude and which way is latitude latitude i feel like would be yeah so the the curve the latitudinal curve i believe so okay from uh mills so that's big david is kabuki is the kabuki dead left bar cheating we talked about it last week just a bit didn't we i don't know as of right now no it's not cheating because they're allowing it feds allow it that's literally not what cheating is if a fed allows it it's not cheating so by definition it's not i

guess if someone comes out and says it's cheating well then yeah now by definition it is yes um no i'd agree with that from big eddie have you picked dates for the massonomics powerlifting 2023 meet yet a lot of questions around swarming around the massonomics powerlifting meet no we have a rough time of year yeah we think it could be a year from now yeah maybe like next summer yeah june july august somewhere in there yeah but it's not a done deal yet how can we help you pick dates for the 2023 mass max trial lifting meet was that a two-part question second question um we you can't yeah you can't unless somehow you can't rush these things an army of 30 people was like oh we'll all do it if it's on this day.

And all 30 of those people happen to be Discord members. That would make a pretty compelling argument. You can't rush these things. What you have to do is just not act on them until it becomes too late to act on them. That's the best course. Yeah. Isn't it rush?

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. That's kind of the way we're going to go with it. Yep. Okay. This is from Evan Shelton. Do y'all ever zone out when guests talk a lot? Kind of. Part of it too is weird when you're interviewing someone,

which is what we do. Because you're half listening and half thinking about what you're going to say. Yeah, because you're listening to what they're saying. You're like, okay, what can we get? What can be a question based off of this? Right. And also, we talk beforehand about the rough outline of what the conversation is going to be.

And so the whole time you're thinking, okay, if I pull that string, is that going to totally mess up the whole outline? Because people will, like, it's not unusual for us to kind of like, oh, we should talk about this and that leads into this and that will go into this yeah and like people might bring up something that we know kind of is something we need to talk about later on and if you bring it up right away it kind of sort of rearranges the whole cards yeah and then you're like okay well

we got to start back at the beginning and then we're going to come back there it is weird yeah so you got to kind of keep that in mind and then you also have to listen to what they're saying and be like all right is that a string you pull and do you go down that road or do you just let that be and then you also are like looking at the time and okay we've had them on almost an hour like do we ask that question because if we do and this is a guest that's talking a lot this could now be an hour and a half long that definitely happens we're like yep we're not asking any of that stuff because we do not have enough time we look at each other and we're both like yep we're shutting this down there can't be any more discussion going on that absolutely happens

i mean i'm we're pretty engaged so i wouldn't say often we zone out but some people do talk a lot and it's just like it's never like a oh man what am i gonna eat for dinner right no it's not that it's just no you're thinking about the the the structure of the yeah yeah um from tanner baker first of all i don't know if there's room enough for two tanners here's a tanner bear no uh oh that's i didn't read his first comment because it didn't make sense he asked something about a friend's logo because we had something in the story about that and he goes I would like to take back what I asked because I committed a sin it's actually a Seinfeld logo I'm like correct

okay from big Dylan coats am I saying his last name I believe that is correct now that's correct it feels weird because to me and it's cots yeah but I guess that's not right who's been the closest from getting canceled from the discord.

And why is it me? I don't think it's, I don't think so at all. No, no. I don't know who's been the closest, but it's not you. Dylan's almost been a little,

little MIA, a little, quite honestly, I'd like to see a little bit more big Dylan in the, but I know people go in phases and cycles depending on their everyone they're going on everyone does there's very few people that are consistent all the time there's actually a few there i take that back there there's a few people that are just their output is amazingly consistent but yeah um people go through ups and downs i totally get it i'm not

very active in there no to to be honest i do love seeing when people that aren't as act when where i'm like ah oh look at this person i haven't seen them for a while yeah yeah it's like oh oh i did this and this or oh i when i talk about this thing and this thing and i'm like yeah that's awesome and a different point of view in here and even with us you know there's there's there's like 200 members in there now and there's not a member really there's not a person that comments that i don't that their name doesn't mean something to me some i'm more familiar with because they've been around longer they comment more but there's not like anyone that doesn't when i see them like i think of

something what i don't know either a conversation ahead or you know what their profile picture is or you know what i know what they train you know that they're strong very rare that a name pops up like what's that? No, that almost never. And I do honestly really like when I go through and I see like, oh, they're not in there that often. I love seeing that they're in there commenting or like, what do they have to say? I'm really curious

to see what they have to say. So we encourage the conversation in there. Yeah, love those. Dylan also asked, how much longer until Tanner lifts in single ply that could be i wouldn't say that that's uh forever impossible i could do like a us apl single ply lifting someday yeah i prefer raw lifting so i'll basically do that as long as i could but if at some point in time if being able to keep lifting meant that i wore

single i wouldn't be totally against that i mean when i was playing something it looks like lifting to me and you know i um i wouldn't be against it i'm just not i'm not in i'm not act like presently interested in doing it that and also the fact that uh time is not on my side already. Exactly. And the idea of it making training time significantly longer is also a problem. Okay. Also from Dylan, and I think the last one from Dylan,

more impressive bend, Big Bend National Park or the Kabuki deadlift bar? What is Big Bend National Park? Where is Big Bend National Park or the Kabuki Deadlift Bar what is Big Bend National Park where is Big Bend National Park name is certainly familiar to me but I feel like I sure haven't been there

it is let's get you the exact location here oh come on it is oh Texas okay obviously

got a Texas one in there I don't really know much about Big Bend it's probably more impressive than a Kabuki double bar though so I'll go Big Bend National Park do we need to hit everyone up with something then a Kabuki double bar, though. Yeah. So I'll go Big Ben National Park. Do we need to hit everyone up with something else?

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Well, I think we just order them and just do it. Probably not a lot to figure out. I think you just pick the item and tell the printer to go, right? That seems like a lot. Here, watch this. This is the first step to anything happening i'll put it right now are you putting it in the sauna i'm putting it in in the merchandise list if something goes in a sauna that means it will get talked about it's a thing um it might not be it could

be like in three years from now still but yep we'll be like oh well look at this thing that but it is will be someday that's a big step if it goes into Asana. Yep. Here we go. There. I put it in the 2022 question mark section. So that means it could be 2022. Could be 2023. Could be never.

Could be 2024 or never. Big James from the gym. You know Big James from the gym. Oh, I know Big James from the gym. Says Twizzlers, Pull and Peel, or or normal twizzlers you can go ahead first i have my answer okay when i was a kid i for sure would have said pull and peel because it's the texture it's so soft it's so much better um god i haven't had either one in so long so i'm just thinking is that still my answer this is really hard i i think i'll still say pull and peel but that's just me thinking it back it's probably been 10 years since i've had pull and

i'm just gonna say pull and peel still i could take both of them and throw them directly in the garbage can and i'd be happier about that than eating either of those things those are gross i never like you never like like twisters is licorice right the only thing worse than that red licorice is black licorice now that's vile i don't like black licorice who does like when who made that candy and it was like yum eat up i don't know like this is candy and i just gorgeous. Wasn't someone in the discord just talking about black licorice? Oh, that's nasty. Oh yeah.

That red stuff, red licorice gets a slight pass to me. Cause they just kind of make it. It's just kind of like cherry gummy candy, but I'm like, okay, give me like good gummy bears or like, um,

I don't know anything. That's not licorice. I think that's nasty candy that should get be gone when i was in high school i worked on this farm and you could go to runnings yeah and you could get the red vines you know the tub of red vines yeah i'm talking about yeah is it like is it like five pounds maybe i think the thing was like ten dollars and you would get this massive bucket of red vines which is like kind of an off-brand licorice. And that was just the rule.

If there wasn't one at the farm and you had to go into town to get something, you would get the bucket of red vines. And I ate so many red. I just think they're the best thing ever. And now red vines. Yeah. I, I, I'd still struggle with it a little bit. You know what?

I like those things you'd buy when you're little. They're like long, skinny, like little skinny like little almost straw flexible straw real sour like oh um sour straws aren't they is that what they're called yeah what they have like the little guys on yeah yeah it's a sour right sour straws i have no idea but those are good i gotta actually i mean i probably haven't had one in 25 years but yep sour punch okay yeah

occasionally on road trips my wife has to pick up a package of these in the in a gas station if she sees them and I'll take one and you're like whoa the sugar level is so much here yeah one is enough okay I would take it. And I'll take one, and you're like, whoa. The sugar level is so much here. Yeah, one is enough.

Okay. Good question, Big James. Throw your Twizzlers in the garbage can. Big Jake, also of Mastanomics Gym. Mastanomics Showdown, gone forever. The Mastanomics Strongman Showdown. Was there a question mark or a period at the end of that? Mastanomics Showdown, question mark is was there a question mark or a period of mass and i'm a showdown question mark gone forever question mark mass atomic showdown gone forever i it doesn't have any had its three-year run in uh 2016 2017 2018 and had a three really good

strong years it was a real it was a lot of fun it was a real crowd favorite there was a lot of fun um i still won't say gone forever although it has uh matt from the discord made the meme a while back where it was uh uh whoever waiting because it was like a clip of us saying like this is back in the podcast from like 2018 saying like my old house yeah saying like oh maybe it won't but we're not saying it's gone forever like we this was announcing after three years the first year it wasn't going to exist yeah and we were saying what doesn't mean it's gone forever and then it's like mr bean waiting for like you know it's 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 still waiting there's still no strut And then he just falls over like almost dead from waiting.

Yeah, we've kind of left that one, but... Yeah. Just got to wait for the right opportunity. Whatever year that may be. Yep. Big Chris asks,

will Dan Bell be joining us again anytime soon? I think it's only a matter of time he will be joining us again. At some point he will. It's a matter of when. Yeah. When was... It's been a little while because he was will be joining us again. At some point he will. It's a matter of when. When was.

It's been a little while. Because he's. Well we've had him on like shorter things and stuff. Like it doesn't seem like he's been. I bet on episode like 300 did we have him on. Well he was probably one of the first actual call in guests we had. Right. And then yeah we had him on for 300 I believe.

Okay. And then on top of that you know he's had the in person. So yeah he's. It's probably been a while though. Yeah. Well oh yeah yeah yeah sorry 300 and then yeah first call okay big jake again he says choose one for you to have dan bell squat dan grigsby deadlift or tds bench press i guess it depends on how much other stuff has to come with those.

Yeah. No, literally you just get to be us. I just have those things. I just get to be me and have those things. God, I don't know. That's a really tough one.

That's a hard question. I'm thinking hard about that. People really love a big bench. That probably has the most mass appeal, honestly. That probably would be able to go bench 700 pounds. That would get the most attention from people probably because outside of people that really understand lifting, anything over 500 pounds just quits making sense.

Squat is my favorite lift, so I feel partially biased to say Dan's squat. Yes, squat is my least favorite lift, but I think almost for that, I don't know if it's my least favorite lift. i think almost for that i don't know if it's my least favorite lift it's my least relative good lift in comparison my three lifts it's the one that lags the most so i think i might choose squat because i'm like spent years trying to get you know like and i mean with some success relative but like it's a real real struggle to get better on squats for me and

pain and you know it's hard so i think i might pick the squat for that reason i'm like all oh i'm like the best squatter in the world now that's also a really good way of looking at it i guess that's what i'll say this next one is from uh r pinozzo where did the name massonomics come from it's like we get this one about every yeah um well we knew that there was going to be a thing before there was a name and then um so i was reading the book freakonomics at the time then it was a little bit of a spin-off of that with obviously the word mass uh wait i can't i can't follow the line here that's basically it's at the core like there's more to it than that a little bit but also maybe it's it is that simple that's where it came from and i i don't know i

thought it sounded it's obviously very unique in hindsight sometimes it has so many letters that it's nicer to have maybe a little bit smaller thing to be able to put on a shirt but yeah i like the uniqueness yeah so yes tanner did tanner did come up with the name totally it was a tanner thing before anything else there and the name is great from a unique standpoint like you don't really got to worry about anyone having the name masonomics or anything like that was we we had all that locked up from early on but that is the the biggest downfall is if you're having a brand and you can pick a name massonomics is 11 characters yes on the surface there's nothing wrong but when it comes to the world of apparel 11 characters makes it a little tricky to fit doesn't work in uh proportionally it's tough you have to if you really want to make the logo large on things you have to use a really condensed font

which we're not really doing but like live large also has 11 characters but it's two words so you can put a break in two words you can't put a break in masonomics so you could layer it too and then when you look at equipment companies there's a reason they go with names like rogue rep titan because yeah they're short and easy to remember but also they fit really nicely on uh on equipment yeah so overall though the name's still a 10 out of 10 be hard to think of it as anything different it is it would be very hard to think um from onward daisy what piece of the gear in your gym gets used the least um this is gonna probably depend on who we're at the gym with because it'll be with who we see i mean there's some really i'm not going to count

like weird cable pull down attachments no like that i'm thinking like main pieces that take up actual floor space the reverse hyper i don't see that get used very much at all reverse hyper i also don't see it's funny because i actually just saw using this but i don't see the calf raise machine get used very much but it depends there's certain guys that i know if i'm gonna see him at the gym they're probably going to use it that's it just depends on who you're there with but yeah the reverse hyper is probably as far as actual like big piece of equipment probably the least and it is a homemade one so like i can see how a actual right i could use the road one would too yeah it's not particularly comfortable no no this one has a plywood board on the top and you grab your own foam and yeah position it to to

provide some padding but i i think that's the right answer that's kind of what i know that's kind of what i think too i mean i see it get used some but it's probably the least yeah but i mean you could also say oh we have a whole collection of boxes and tons of them never get used some but it's probably the least yeah but i mean you could also say oh we have a whole collection of boxes and tons of them never get used right and like you get some of them use a lot but other ones yeah they get touched like the multi-grip bar the football bar i never see anyone use that i don't either like you could say we don't have it and i'd be like okay like oh i didn't notice i haven't looked for it for four years. That thing never gets used. I never see anyone use that. Nope.

Like the landmine, I don't see anyone really use that ever. As far as something that gets kind of talked about a fair amount in the garage gym community is like, oh, you got to have these. I never see anyone use that. No. Like they're cheap, so you're not out there. Yeah, right, right. I never see anyone use that landmine. No, I really don't.

Oh, we have a preacher curl in our dumbbell area. Yeah, the actual preacher curl bench. I never see anyone. No, they just use it as just a loader to do curls. To set where the curl bar sits. Do you ever see anyone sit on there and do preacher curls? One member who is no longer at the gym anymore. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, right. There's only one guy. He who shall not be named. Yeah. There's only one guy that ever used that.

I've never seen anyone else. I feel like it puts you in a compromised position kind of though. Yeah. I used, back before I was kind of power lifting, I used to do that. It's just kind of scary to have a lot of weight in the preacher curl position. Some people have torn their bicep doing that I think before too. Yeah, you're right.

That doesn't get used much at all. I couldn't tell you the last time I saw someone actually use it. It might actually be who you were referring to there. Strong Man Dan, Arm Tattoos Dan, um strong man dan arm tattoos dan lift shorts with lift on the ass like in the early juicy 2000s i like the i like the concept i like where your head's at on this one never say never on something like that Never say never on something like that. Opel AJ, do you and Tommy ever bump knees during the podcast and is it awkward?

Well, we can't bump knees. We'd have to be sitting fairly. Yeah, you'd have to try. I think we maybe occasionally have bumped feet together. I don't think it's ever been very awkward. There's not really enough time. I don't have enough brain power to be worried about something being awkward there's not and it's also relatively close so it's like oh yeah it'd be almost weird if you never did bump feet but bumping knees would be weird if that did happen that it hasn't doing that which doesn't means i can't talk into the microphone yeah it hasn't but i guess i suppose

it could be a little awkward if it did uh big david hunter when will you have the over under pulls back on the story i don't know if you remember i used to pull put those every week on about that it's funny things just i just sometimes i forget things for a long time and then i just stop doing it too you know and it's like i don't know sometimes i just in my own head start to think uh i don't know if it's true or not but i don't think these things have value to someone anymore and i eventually stopped for that i think you got to bring them back like at least once a month they're fun i think okay so you think over under should be back in the story just once in a while yeah okay i don't think you have to do it every

week i think you should do it once in a while it's a fun dumb thing okay especially when you can get the really stupid pictures for this yeah yeah that was part of the best part yeah that shouldn't doesn't take that long but it takes a while to post like all four you know you gotta have an image for each one and then you put the poll you have to put the question and the answers i'd say don't do it every week i feel like it's a slow day i'd say yeah do it okay because some of them are really funny. I used to do it like on the same day of the week every time. Yeah. I think I would do it on Podcast Mondays, maybe something like that.

I believe it was. This is from Big Chris. I always say Daminger, but is that not right? I'm not sure. I forget. He's corrected me before, so Daminger must not be right. Dominger. Is that what it is?

Could be. He's told me or said it, and I'm not going to remember, so don't correct me this time, Big Chris. But his wife said, When the F are you going to have dates for this meet? Some wives need to know. The meet? That's a hot topic.

Yes. We don't know the answer see see previous questions on this episode big joey is oakley doakley the height of midwest metal oakley doakley i don't know what that is that's what uh Ned Flanders says. Oakley doakley. Oh, yeah. See, I was never a Simpsons guy. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's also in something else, but that's what Ned Flanders says is oakley doakley. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm not familiar enough. Yeah, me either. I mean, that's what it means to me if someone says oakley doakley. But he said Midwest Metalhead. I get the impression it's like a band, right? Maybe that's, maybe is Oakley Doakley the name of a band

that is Midwestern Metal? And is it based off of the Ned Flanders character? Let's see. What are you getting when you type in Oakley I'm sure I'm not oh okay here let me try and spell this a different way oh it is a band

I've never heard of them American heavy metal band from Phoenix Arizona they all dress like Ned they do oh yeah okay American heavy metal band from Phoenix, Arizona. And they all dress like Ned. They do? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Okay. But they're from Phoenix, so they can't be Midwest, right? Well, the whole thing's a ruse then if you ask me. Yeah. Sounds like a bunch of phonies. The majority of the band's lyrics are direct Ned quotes. I like the concept. He's a really cool guy.

Yeah, for sure. People also a really cool guy. For sure. People also search for Mac Sabbath, uh, beat Talika, uh, Guar, you know, the classics.

Of course. Big Joey also asks, have you watched letter Kenny yet? I have not. No, I have not either. I should, but I started, uh,

working my way back through our back. I shouldn't say back there. I started working my way back through, or I shouldn't say back through. I started working my way through Curb Your Enthusiasm. I'm almost done with the first episode. It's kind of a hard show to watch like five episodes in a row because it's just people yelling at each other the whole time. I'd like to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. I never have. You've never seen any?

No. Well, I mean, no, actually, that's not true. I've kind of seen a couple, but I've never watched the show in a way where you... See, I'm almost probably doing it out of order because I've never seen... I've seen very little Seinfeld. Okay.

I've seen every Seinfeld episode 10 times. Yeah, see, there's a ton of Seinfeld. The majority of Seinfeld I've never... I've probably seen 10 to 20 episodes of my whole life. My problem is I would like to watch curb your enthusiasm but when it comes down to it i'd rather watch seinfeld again really or i yeah that's like i it's hard for me to not want to watch if like if i'm gonna watch something like that i'd be like seinfeld was the pinnacle for me so i'm just like i'd rather like it's just nothing's funnier than

that yeah so i can see how that could. Yeah. It is it is fine. I'm enjoying it though. I would like to watch that. Yeah. And I had to go back and look because in my head I remember being a kid we'd have like HBO occasionally you know when it was how old is it. So the first season was

like the year 2000. OK. So it came out not that long after 22 years ago. Yeah. and when i was a kid i remember thinking this larry david guy is so old yeah and i had 22 years ago and he's like 75 or something so he'd have been he was like in his early 50s yeah and now that i look i'm like well yeah he's just a guy that's bald and has white hair and glasses like now i don't think he looks that old but it is funny to me as a kid i'm like well that's just my grandpa right talking now it's like no it's just like a slightly older than middle-aged guy yes but it is also funny part of this i think is how much the world has changed is

that this is a guy that was just part of one of the most successful shows of all time you know yeah probably has even at that time in 2000 probably had an insane amount of money oh yeah i mean i think that the offer they left on the table from the to keep you going was insane i think it's just crazy amounts of money and they maybe downplayed a little but just how much the world has changed like when you look at their house and what they surround themselves with and everything and even the places they go for the most part like these just kind of seem like a regular places like how much now when you think oh they're a big hollywood person you're expecting like mega mansions and yeah just scenery and ambience like you've never seen before and for

the most part it feels like oh this is pretty regular yeah uh regular settings that they're in here so uh it is kind of funny watching some of that. Yeah. So no letter, Kenny. Big Brofester Steven, if you could lift with anybody past or present, who would it be and why? Did we do this? I think we have.

What did we do this on? I think someone's asked this before. Haven't they on a previous one? It feels like it. Yeah. I kind of feel like i have to say someone that's outside our sphere a little bit because it wouldn't be super hard to lift with someone inside our knowledge base if we really wanted to right right like it would be cool to say ed cohen but that wouldn't be that hard to actually make that happen no right we could

probably just drive there i know you can just yeah come on man i feel like you'd have to say someone like ronnie coleman or somewhere like in that line to like really make it feel special and arnold yeah our actually that would be arnold would be the number you're right that would be the best one i think i said it before i would shaquille o'neal would be fairly high in my that would be cool because i want to go hang out with shaquille o'neal yeah yeah it's like if we get to do it lifting that's even better i think so um but if we're talking lifters i think ronnie would be a ronnie would be up there for me like it probably doesn't get a lot better than that i would say if we're going lifters arnold is number one right ronnie's in the top five for sure. It's funny. Neither of us are all that into bodybuilding.

No. And he asked the questions like, will you pick two bodybuilders? I know. But they also are kind of like at the most glorified of any lifter. They do. They get elevated more. But it would also be cool to like lift with like Hathor or something too, you know? That would be cool too.

Or Kaz. Or Kaz. Or Kaz. I mean, we have talked and met. I've gotten to have candid conversations with Kaz before. That's an experience. First of all, if you haven't been able to do that. But because I've done that, it almost moves it a little lower. It does.

Because I've already got to have a fun interaction. Even the same thing like Brian Shaw. But it's it's like oh yeah i mean we haven't really had much for interactions with him but maybe he seems more accessible right i think part of these people is they seem almost impossible right that's part of the where it's like well you can't get just train with arnold you know like how do you? It's not a thing you get to do. Yeah. From Freedom Fitness Equipment, less of a question, more of a demand. We need a shirtless episode.

I don't know if I'd feel completely comfortable with that. Yeah, maybe we'll put it on the list sometime. Yeah, it's not in Asana yet. It's not in Asana yet, but someday it'll be in there. From Glucks Jim, prickers, briars, or thistle. What is the correct term? Or cockabers. Yeah, I'm going to go with cockabers again.

Cockabers. Thistles are the weeds that grow. Cockabers are like the things you find out in the country that you touch, and then they're just stuck in your it's like where did that come from it's like when a cockabur gets in your shoelaces it's never coming out of those again no oh shoelaces the worst or like you know or like if you have a dog that has slightly longer hair it gets a cockabur and it's like yep you basically gotta cut it out of its fur yeah yeah when you it's when you get like multiple of them like and then they make a wad. And that's when you're like, oh, everything's screwed here.

It's all got to go. Keeper of the Gains. Does being a supporting member mean I'm a stockholder in Masonomics? It makes you an unpaid intern. Yeah, unpaid intern. That's better. Let's say almost in a symbolic way, you kind of are almost a stockholder. But I mean...

To be clear, you owe nothing. But there's still some prestige there. Yeah. I would say unpaid intern is the preferred nomenclature. That is. It is. Crew. Crew.

C-R-U. Unpaid intern. Supporting member. That's kind of the short list. pretty much yeah not really not really stockholder but maybe stakeholder there we go that's actually a better yeah i think he makes you a stakeholder but not a stockholder uh last one on the list here i think fmk dan yuri russ this group is funny yeah um i would normally skip past the fmk ones on here because i just don't like that game that much but this one's particularly good because of the

recent discussions we've had on dan yuri russ um god this is a hard one um i'm gonna kill yuri because he's russian that's what i was gonna go with too i mean we don't even talk we don't even speak the same language like that seems like and he's russian and russian bad yeah that's kind of the the easy consensus there right but that one feels easy but the next two are like damn the dan bell makes things tricky here is yeah really is what i'm really fighting with i don't want to have sex with dan very badly but also do you want to marry dan though because that's the hard part though i could handle that you know he's fun you know yeah i mean life will probably just be kind of sweaty for a while but let's

and for a while i mean forever it'll just be kind of sweaty for a while. And for a while, I mean forever. I might prefer a little sweat for a long time than a whole lot of sweat for a really intimate, short period of time. Okay, okay, I'll buy that logic. So in that case, I was Mary Dan. Okay, I can follow that. Sometimes it's best not to take those too literal. Yeah.

Yeah, it is. That's how a lot of things are. Yeah. That wraps up all the questions we are going to take for this episode. It doesn't wrap up everything, though, because I wanted to tell you about spud-ink-straps.com. And specifically, I wanted to talk a little bit about some of their more popular products that they've got there. So I'm actually going to, I think I can sort by that. Actually, no. I i'm gonna talk specifically

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Oh, well... Local. Okay. Wait, I remember... Yeah. Okay. kind of machine shop oh uh well local okay like wait i don't remember yeah okay around 1976 you had that part right yeah a local buddy began working at a local machine shop and started making olympic bars for them calling uh no calling it yeah yep calling it the image bar yes in 1979, Image Barbell became champion barbell. It was then that Buddy started looking at the bars in an intent of changing them for the better. One tiny correction. It was in 1977, not in 1979.

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and broken on the Texas power bar to learn more about Texas power bars and buy one of your own visit Texas power bars.com. Yeah, that was real close. There's just a few in there. Once the numbers start getting, I start second guessing the numbers and then I start second guessing what I'm going to say but it's almost like one of those things

the less you can think about it the more you can once I start going I'm like oh yeah I'm here but yeah that was I would say that was really good you know that's not perfect but very good definitely way better than I could do on that I would not have a chance not have a chance in hell of getting it that good

it's a pretty fun way of doing that yeah well maybe we'll test you again next week to see slow and steady improvements yeah um who was it on the podcast where we were having a discussion about um testing being tested and quizzing that sort of thing it's not really um anytime you learn something all you're doing by testing and quizzing and continuing to study it is preventing yourself from making it a longer period of time until you forget it like you're always in the process of forgetting everything yeah and like whatever you're doing by doing that you're always in the process of forgetting everything. Yeah. And like whatever you're doing by doing that, you're just, um,

just delaying your forgetting of it. So we have not talked about this ever. Okay. Um, I mean, I get what you're saying to an extent, like, yeah,

there are some things like baseline things that I feel like you kind of always sort of know, like once you learn certain base, yeah. Yeah. Hopefully you don't forget how addition works or the alphabet or like the alphabet yes like and but if you never repeated the alphabet to yourself ever again i mean yeah i think maybe you're eventually like um yeah i mean that that is like the extreme yeah that's and that's not really what i'm talking about like i would say

even like in my field i mean there's i google things every single day for things that i do like there's things that i do every single week and i'm like why am i googling that again this week yeah i googled that last week and the week before that the week before that like why can't i remember this um but yeah you're you are right to an extent yeah well i think there is a lot of talk about you know like when you're in grade school like the memorization that you do of things really is not ideal learning and i don't think that seems surprising to people but also it's like kind of is a part of the process well yeah and even then like because those are such foundational things like what about like states and capitals well i know that doesn't but is that so i guess people have spent way more time thinking right that i have but

like is there something to like flexing that mental muscle of like okay if you really like is that part of teaching yourself how to learn that's what i think can i can i memorize things yeah that's the bigger thing to me of like like the discipline learning ability yeah right right um but and then also the world has changed from when we grew up though like when we were elementary school kids, even middle school and high school, like, if there's a lot of things you wanted to know, if it wasn't in a book,

there was a really hard chance to find out a lot of things. You didn't really Google it. No, and the idea of looking up tutorial videos on YouTube didn't really exist in the early 2000s. That wasn't a thing. No. So, now, like, if you want so now like i don't even think we used

google no when i was in school like honestly i don't think people were going to google you're going to like yahoo they're going to ask g's questions i really when did goo when was google like really like had become like the de facto is the like probably like the i don't know early 2000s yeah 2005-ish in there. Right. And that's when I graduated from high school. So it's like before. I mean, there's no doubt existed and people were using it.

Yeah. I don't think, like, I don't remember that being, like, people didn't use that as a verb. Yeah. It was probably closer. Like, Google it. Yeah. You know, like in high school, people went, oh, just Google it. I'm like, I don't remember that at all.

Yeah. So that has changed a lot where now it's like, oh, if you want to know how to do something, it's I'm like, I don't remember that at all. Yeah, so that has changed a lot where now it's like, oh, if you want to know how to do something, it's like, oh, I don't need to commit this to memory. I'll just look it up. Like, oh, I don't need to commit any address ever again to memory. I'll just look it up or save it in my phone. Like there's no point.

I don't ever remember to need a phone number ever again. Like I suck at remembering phone numbers. I don't need to know any phone numbers. I don't even know any phone numbers. Like you don't need to know any street addresses or street numbers like it it doesn't matter anymore so uh you really don't need to know directions to anything either don't okay that just reminds me i take my dog for a lot of walks and i can always count on once if not twice a year i will get stopped while i'm on a walk for someone to ask me for directions. Now, you might say, who would ask you for directions?

I'll let you take a guess as to the age of these people. Old. Yes, very old. Masters. Hashtag masters. The last two have been where a church is at and where the Super 8 in town is at. They weren't even close to the Super 8. I guess there used to be.

Well, there's a Super 8 over the overpass here, but that was not the one they were looking for. They were looking for the one on the other end of town. There used to be one right here, though, too. They were almost as far away from that Super 8 as you could possibly be. That's what they were looking for. Asking for directions.

That's a funny thing that doesn't exist anymore. No. I'm glad you don't have to do that actually yeah but also yeah having to know a lot of just general knowledge things you don't really have to remember much anymore because no it's two clicks away take a look it's in a book reading rainbow yeah lamar lavar lamar burton lavar burton i don't know both of those sound neither of those sound wrong i think it's lamar with a m let's see but i could be i could be swayed easily on that lavar okay okay both of those sounded right i know that's like good was he also on star trek he was

one of the guys that wore the i know nothing about star trek i don't either i know a little bit about star wars i've watched a lot of it he was on star trek the next generation he was in roots as well um star trek a lot of star trek like i i remember in star trek wasn't didn't he have like the thing the funny thing like, that visor over his eyes? That could have been. I don't even know. I don't know, like, anything about Star Trek. Oh, George Jetson was born just, like, this month.

Really? Like, if you look up George Jetson. Really? Yeah, like, he was born in August of 2022. Really? Yeah. So that means. The future is here, old man.

Approximately 40 years from now, we should be living in those space houses like on really tall sticks. I'll have a robot dog. Yeah. Elroy. His boy Elroy. And then. Daughter Judy.

Yeah. I'm trying to think of what else is. Their dog. Yeah. what was his wife's name uh she was always on tv is his wife judy or is that their daughter oh let's see she's basically sprockets that's where he worked this is how it was his boss was always a real big jerk meet george judson uh his wife jane their children judy and elroy robotic uh robotic maid named rosie oh yeah and a talking dog named astro astro okay yeah it first aired on abc in the 60s what okay which is better i think this is a classic

comparison the jetsons or the flintstones um that's a good i see i don't i do not remember i remember watching the jetsons i just can't remember like really anything that happened in them but now that i say that i also can't really remember anything that happened in the flintstones either other than fred yelling at his wife a lot and yeah and then like wanting to eat big old racks or ribs on the side of their car peddling his car with a um i i like jetsons a lot better than the flintstones i just can't remember like the story of like whatever happened in an episode like what do they do mostly like in the jetsons he goes to work and like gets yelled at or in trouble or gets really grumpy and like brings his anger

back home that's kind of what I'm thinking yeah and it's like the daughter is like a teenager and she's like kind of like into cool like she's like trying to be cool and then the little boy is like trying to play basketball but it's like futuristic basketball

I just don't remember like the plot of any but I guess I don't really for the like Jane's going shopping yeah I kind of remember that part she was just like living the life right right I don't I couldn't answer that question I just don't remember really it's kind of actually

as I'm thinking about it's kind of the same plot it's just the same plot versus past and future it's really the same show let's see what came instead of uh astro it's dino yep and then they have a bam bam pebbles and bam yeah uh but i don't know you know the flintstones leaned heavily on their neighbors the rubbles and i don't know in the jetsons wow oh okay okay okay i was gonna say the flintstones was september 30th 1960 the jetsons september 23rd 1962 okay so basically two years apart so they definitely had to have like taken a lot of inspiration the flintstones are the ogs here. I like the Jetsons the better.

Might be a non-popular opinion. I'm not sure. That might be. But I vividly remember as a young kid. Do you remember the Flintstones movie with John Goodman? Oh, yeah. I mean, I remember it being a movie. Who else was in the movie, though, more importantly than John Goodman? Holly Berry.

Oh, she was, wasn't she yeah wow now that i remember oh did you ever see the movie swordfish uh um yeah i kind of forgot about that movie flintstones yeah oh yeah i remember that he works at the rock quarry and you know john goodman's a good uh fred flintstone though to tell you the truth yeah he plays it pretty well yeah and he goes barney over the line over the line bar yeah barney is played by the dad from honey i shrunk the kids oh is that who that guy is okay i'm looking at him right now what is his name i'm so terrible with all these people's names um yeah rick moranis rick moranis yeah yeah and then the boss rosie o'donnell was petty yeah

yeah i don't remember who will i mean i don't think that wilma was a notable actress that i remember no and then um elizabeth perkins i don't know who the boss was that holly berry was like the assistant to the the slimy boss that was like rich guy trying to get money and like screwing over other people and her name is sharon stone in the show okay all right must see must see tv so that is your history on that uh should that bring it on home yeah let's bring it home uh check out our stuff hopefully there's a new drop been out by now we're recording this at a little bit of a uh our timing's weird and stuff so check out what we've got for sale and become a supporting member tommy where do they find you at you can find me at

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