Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 342: Chad Wesley Smith Live in Studio

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

Chad Wesley Smith joined us live right here in Western North East South Dakota for this one! We gave him the full tour of the area including Taco John’s, all of our midwestern basements, and we got a training session in at Massenomics Gym. We dig into Juggernaut AI training with Chad on this one. We bounced some of our top questions off of him, and got a feel for what changes are coming down the road for the app. If you want to get signed up for JuggernautAI, make sure to use our code below! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! website, everything. Massanomics. Welcome back, everyone, for episode 342 of the Massanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from western,

northeast, south Dakota. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. And we have a special guest with, well, it's episode 342, Tommy, and you know what that means. 342. Yeah, it's what it means. Like we always planned out, Chad Wesley Smith is going to be with us in person for that episode. I think we said it on episode one.

I think we said that the whole time. That's what we were saving for. We were playing the long game there. So if you're watching along on YouTube, you notice something looks a little different. Usually it's just the two of us sitting in here. Today it's three of us. It doesn't happen very often. We save it for the most special of occasions and here we are. Big Chad, how's it going? Doing great, guys. Thanks for having me.

We're excited to have you in studio. We've had you on the podcast over the phone before, but that's really not quite the full Western Northeast South Dakota experience when you're on the phone. It's not the full Chad experience either. It been glamorous so far i'll tell you aberdeen treating me right yeah so we picked you you guys flew in last night we picked you up in the limo what were first impressions uh luxury class fanciness you know i would have expected nothing less from you gentlemen uh yeah i i have some experience with small midwest towns my mom's from a really small town in northern minnesota uh they've probably never seen a limo in fe minnesota so uh yeah it was on the sign you got me plenty of weird looks in the airport. The sign, of course, referring to the governor.

We all is our limo driver here. And we do have a specialized limo. Yeah, we do have it. He lifts and he's also our limo driver. And he had the welcome to Western Northeast, South Dakota, Big Chad sign. And that picture of you. What was that? Is that your traps? Yeah.son yeah that's okay that's

what i thought yeah yeah uh yeah so you got the full-on welcome wagon you guys have a trap johnson on the podcast sometime too so we'll save your guests we'll save that for like episode 42 he's gonna be harder to to nail down though and return in an email he's got a busier schedule oh he doesn't he doesn't really use email you're gonna find him uh you know living in the van in front of gold's gym yeah uh yeah uh that reminds me though special announcement this episode is brought to you by our friends over at juggernaut ai oh really they're on for this episode yeah they're still on i didn't know if they were canceling this week juggernaut ai is uh the training app that tommy and myself both use actually i think uh all four of us in this room right now actually not only is this the first or the second podcast with three people in this room it's the first podcast with four people in this

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And see, sometimes we just do it off the cuff. You know, juggernaut AI is such a natural one for us. That's very easy. We're so intimately involved with it. You know, the ins and outs. I got one more person to tell you about here. And that is our friends at Barefoot Shoes. Most shoes harm your mobility by over-restricting your foot's natural movement.

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I think it's original. We're suggesting it as a new marketing thing. We think there's something to that. Yeah, we will be rocking those later today. So thank you, barefoot shoes. And I don't know if you know this, but located just to the north of us in North Dakota for the barefoot team. So exciting news.

We're not far from it. Just hop, skip, and a jump right now. Just across the border. Yeah. So we do have a lot of fun activities here planned with. Yeah, it's kind of tough because people don't realize this, but we've already ate twice. So we've kind of covered everything we had for podcast questions. So this is going to be like a 20 minute. We're just going to read some ads and be done here. There's just not a whole lot of ground we have left to cover uh we so later today we are gonna go we're gonna go train after the podcast we're gonna go hit up legendary massonomics gym so you haven't gotten to be there yet uh you are obviously now in the massonomics podcast studio and then the third stew the third uh leg of our

stool is going to the fulfillment center and hopefully at some point in time we get to stop there and uh the funny part about that you guys like the largest landowners of the underground below below ground level surface area we cover quite a bit of uh western northeast south dakota with our three basements yep all about that basement life yeah uh and there's a few requests for a Beers with Chad segment. We did have Beers with Chad last night already in the limo. We had Beers with Chad. And then out at Pounders, we got to have Beers with Chad.

So a lot of people have only heard Beers with Chad. We've actually got to live it. We've experienced it. Yeah. But are we going to have Beers with Chad today or just a can? Well, since we've got to go lift, we're going to do just a What's in the Can. It won't be a beers with Chad. We might save that for after the podcast later today if we're lucky.

Sounds good. So should we pop into a can? Yeah, we can pop into a can. Okay, so this is one of the oldest running segments on the Mathsonomics podcast called What's in the Can. I'm going to send a can your guys' way, and you're going to tell me what flavor profiles you're picking up here so so does he need to be have his eyes closed the blindfold is over there if he wants to take your spot tanner otherwise he can close his eyes it's

whatever he feels comfortable with what i'm gonna feel a little vulnerable that's gonna say you you you may not know what's going to happen you're in a basement you're blindfolded it's like the true experience is using the blindfold yeah i think it's it's the uncertainty that makes it sexy it's the it's the that's the thrill yeah yeah so uh for my benefit is this is this something we've experienced we have experienced this before tanner you can extend your hand with with profiles as diverse as ours though i mean there's very little we haven't experienced. That's true.

Shorty, I got one over here, too, in case you think you need something. He said he's trying to quit. Okay. He's had too many damn beers with Chad already. So you crack the can. It's up to you. I usually like to do a smell test first. Use all the senses.

All the senses. Citrus-y. Citrus is usually a good guess. Yeah. What's in the can game. That's good. I could see this being maybe a lime spindrift. Okay.

Okay. We have had spindrift on the show before. We do have a precedent of having spindrift on. He's going back for a second. Sometimes it does take, I've experienced before where it takes the second or third try until things really hit.

Just to give you a background, oftentimes we have very mildly flavored drinks, and this is what makes it so much trickier, too, like the minimal flavoring of our essence. Yeah, the point is there is almost no flavor. I mean, I don't know what other guesses I have here. Okay, we're going line spin drift? Okay, go ahead and remove the blindfold.

Remove the koozie we are rocking a polar tart cherry limeade so you do you were ahead on the lime all right yeah yeah it was the chair you're only missing the cherry really yeah actually and the tart yeah and the brand yeah this is a good one though it is then uh now so you understand the next lot. You're the guest. We're going to have to put that out. This is a good one, though. And then now so you understand, the next part of this is the rating system. We do it on a five JD Power and Associates Award system. Half points are allowed. A perfect can would be a five. I don't know if we've ever rated anything a five.

I don't believe we have. We've maybe only gone four and a half a couple times. Someone in the Discord would know our exact rating chart there. Yeah. So what are your feelings on this? of all do you like sparkling waters oh very much yeah a lot of sparkling waters yeah yeah we're we're a spindrift family okay uh i think my normal pineapple spindrift or uh raspberry lime or mango orange. Those are my go-to.

See, I'm not a pineapple guy. That doesn't, that flavor never clicked with me, but. Marissa's on grapefruit. Yeah, grapefruit's kind of classic. Pamplemousse if you have a more refined palate. Yeah, I'm not trying to punish my mouth with stinging. Yeah, I'm not trying to punish my mouth with stinging. So out of five, where are you sitting at on the tart cherry limeade polar?

I drink these. I'd probably a three. Yeah. A three is a pretty standard rating. I think our most common is a 3.5. Yep. That's the most. I kind of particularly like this one.

I'm going to give this. I think we've done it before and I don't know what I've rated in the past, but I'm feeling a four on this. I think we've given this a four in the past. I got to go with that, too. Maybe the fridge I looked was not set totally cold. My son likes to pop open the beverage fridge and change the temp. So maybe if it was a few degrees colder, it would hit a little different, too. But I'm going four on this as well. Can we assume that your son will be appropriately punished for that later?

Oh, very much so. Yeah, very much so. Two-year-olds need to have an example. They got to learn at a very, very early age. Now we've got the headband going here. This is like a competition. That's like back-in-the-day chat I'm looking at here. That's true.

That was kind of your look, wasn't it, for a while? It was. The headband came about back to high school track. Because I was through the shot put in high school and college. And I always really liked these 1970s, Al Feuerbach, Brian Oldfield. The aesthetic of those throwers and even strongman and powerlifters back then short shorts beard and a wild hair and a headband yep and i just tried to embrace embrace that and you know before headbands were were cool yeah i this segment was actually an elaborate plan

to get you wearing a mask on a headband. And like, here we are. You shot one up for the home team. A common question some might be asking right now is, why is Chad in western northeast South Dakota? And a while back, you know, you had mentioned, this is something somebody might say commonly. And they'd say like...

And not something someone might say. This is something people do say. This is something people say. Like really i need to get there sometime you know like i need to get there sometime and my answer is like oh yeah always that would be great we'd love to have you here and usually and also usually in my head that's just something people say and then you followed up just like very quickly later and like what about these dates and i'm like oh he actually like it's like not just like this isn't just a thing yeah yeah yeah and so we uh got it scheduled out and uh got you here and we're gonna podcast and train and uh talk about some uh juggernaut ai stuff and uh we're excited for it yeah i mean you know i really enjoy what you guys do and your sense of humor and and you've been you know great supporters with the

the app and figured might as well get out there you know one of the beauties of of working on your computer all the time is you can go wherever and sometimes wherever is Aberdeen it's a very wherever rarely that is the the answer to question, but in this particular case it is. For the listeners, the viewers, twice already in the 18 hours that we've been here. Well, it was actually twice within the first three hours you were here. I've been approached with kind of like, what are you guys doing here? You don't look like you're from around here. And I don't know why I wouldn't look like I'm from around here. To me, you kind of look like you're from around here and i don't know why i wouldn't look

like i'm from around here to me you kind of look like you're from around here i don't know you know like other than i actually i don't know you kind of look like you would be from around here i'm not sure yeah it's probably shorty shorty yeah uh but but that was uh odd and it was funny and none of it was uh i don't think any of it was malicious you know it wasn't like you guys aren't from around here but i like to think they did take a sweet time to serve us breakfast this morning oh yeah that's true that's true that is a good i think everyone was getting their sweet time taken on that one no it didn't look like anyone was a hurry no that wasn't uh that wasn't a target a target at us it was overall everyone was getting getting uh their sweet time taken um so we're we

are going to train today and we were kind of been talking about your training a little bit chad and uh could you let everyone know like what uh what you're up to right now in in training and do you you yourself are you using juggernaut ai app training. I am. Getting ready for the Garage Gym competition, powered by Juggernaut AI, that we're the title sponsor of. So how long a version of this do you want? The card only has three hours left on it. So it's a short version then. Yeah. My last powerlifting meet was late 2016.

At the time, did you know that was going to be the last one? I'd been saying it was my last one for like three or four meets in a row. Yeah. I started powerlifting when I was 23. I guess I just turned 24. I said I was going to stop when I was, my goal was to stop when I was 30 with no surgery scars, which I pretty successfully did. I got a bunch of surgery since then but yeah you stopped without making up for lost time technically technically here yeah so so i did that last meet uh end of

2016 2017 started doing jujitsu you know i was just kind of burnt out on powerlifting in a lot of started doing jujitsu, you know, I was just kind of burnt out on powerlifting in a lot of ways. And, uh, yeah, as, as a competitor myself, and I was still coaching a ton through then and coaching really strong lifters and running, running our gym and enjoying all that. Um, but towards end of 2018, I was like, okay, I'm, I'm training hard enough. Like, I feel like it's a little bit in striking distance. So I started training powerlifting again for the first time in two years at that point and was getting strong again. I think I squatted 700 for a double, no, no belt or anything. And, and it was all in the plans to do another powerlifting meet at the start of 2019, which I wasn't telling anyone besides

like Marissa at the time knew that plan. And then I got an umbilical hernia training for that. So I was like, well, I guess that wasn't meant to be. So through 2019, I get my umbilical hernia surgery. I'm just trained jiu-jitsu, gotten really good shape, probably some of the best shape of my life. And then late 2019, started getting crazy sciatica. jiu-jitsu, got in really good shape, probably some of the best shape of my life. And then late 2019, started getting crazy sciatica.

I had never dealt with that before that had known of herniated disc that I had all the way since 2013. But I just wake up one morning numb from ass, cheek to ankle, basically couldn't couldn't push my heel off the ground at all at the drop foot kind of was dragging dragging my right foot around kind of like a pirate with a peg leg sort of thing yeah yeah yeah looking for a parrot and i'd never wear an eye patch though can't cover up either of these yeah this is all I really got going for me. So, um, so I get two epidural injections in my spine late 2019. And at that point, you know, through, through 2019, I'd started to lift heavier again. I think I squatted like five 70 for five, but i was a lot lighter i was 280 and um so i'd started to feel like okay i'm getting strong again with no idea towards doing a powerlifting meet again at that point

then the sciatica stuff was like okay you're just you're done you're done squatting and deadlifting heavy like i squad 970 i deadlifted 815 i've i've i've done enough of that yeah yeah uh so get those epidural injections then and go through 2020 um well a couple more surgeries there a ruptured tendon in this thumb that got a pin in it from a match with in cima uh jiu-jitsu match there his pecs were just so rock hard i wouldn't grab it and i mean that's pretty much what happened yeah um so ruptured tendon in this finger the week before that match then ruptured tendon in this thumb during that match and i was like you know can't catch a break i'm just gonna do jujitsu once in a while and play some golf and lift weights here and there uh does that pinky do what it's supposed to then because it kind of the last time you did

that i noticed like that doesn't look right it looks good now what it's supposed to do is all other job duties as yeah that's all in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't look straight though. That's as straight as it goes. That's like you can't even force it straighter. It doesn't bend more than that and it doesn't go straighter than that. What's that even for? My thumb doesn't bend more than that but uh what i think he's i'm not what's that even for really my thumb doesn't bend more than that oh okay opposite hands there's all in one hand that would kind of suck with it do either of those like it being both both hands being incapacitated was was probably worse

but yeah i'm almost barely a man now with only one opposable, opposable. It's what separates us between us and cats. So through 2020, I was just, you know, lifting here and there, but I had belt squat and bench and train jiu jitsu and playing golf,

but all at a very hobbyist level with no aspirations towards lifting heavy again. And then at a physical therapist who Marissa was working with, uh, pay Bocan Fuso based out of Australia. And she just asked one day, she's like, you know, do you want to try and lift heavy again? Oh, sorry. I'm getting my, my timeline off a little bit here. I'm going through 2020 and just training jiu-jitsu and playing golf and not really caring about am I going to lift heavy again. Then something happens in jiu-jitsu December 2020 and maybe it was just accumulation of events and

from New year's eve 2020 going into 2021 to when i had a back surgery in the middle of january 2021 i could not stand or sit for more than two three minutes at a time i could essentially bedridden for those couple weeks prior to surgery. So I got a microdiscectomy surgery. You're like the grandparents from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Same outfit. Which is very breezy. A nice gown. A night shirt.

Preferred term. So I'm just there trapped in bed in my in my night shirt and get this microdosectomy surgery which if you were to think of your discs as jelly donuts which i often do think of mine as like to think i'm partially made out of delicious little treats yeah uh you know a hernia disc is the jelly coming out of the donut. And at micro-osectomy, they go and scrape away the jelly that's come out. And I had a 9 millimeters thick by 44 millimeters long piece of jelly out there, which is almost 2 inches long. And the surgeon said that that was a record, at least for him,

of the biggest piece of disc he had ever moved. The biggest jelly he ever collected and when they i woke up from the surgery and my my chiropractor i'd worked with for a long time and referred me to this surgeon the surgeon had sent him a picture of this disc material you know next to a ruler and my chiropractor Joe has sent me that and I'm kind of waking up out of my haze and I look at my phone and I'm like, Oh, two inches. And so not a,

you know, not a record that I'm happy about. But once they, they did that, I mean, I walked out of the surgery. It was like a, you know,

honestly a life changing kind of thing. Granted, it had only been a couple weeks where life was that miserable with it, but Oh my God, it's awful. Uh, so at that point I was like, I just care about not being in that same situation again.

And halfway through 2021, uh, or late 2021, Marissa starts working with Pei, and Pei asks, like, would you be interested in lifting heavy? Again, I was like, not really. Like, I've done that. But she's like, I don't think it would be that tough to get you back to it. So she helped me out and, you know, just kind of started training a little bit heavier.

But once you've competed at such a high level level and that's what I've done all my life, you know, from, from track to powerlifting, the strong man back to powerlifting and then even, you know, not that it was like a black belt jujitsu competitor, but like competing hard at jujitsu and taking that seriously training for nothing was just so unfulfilling to me and so like oh yeah i guess i'll go lift today like i had a very hard time i guess of making it about the the process of it rather than whatever end goal competition so to be able to pick out something

like garage gym competition and be like this is i am going to do this i'm going to tell people of the internet that i am doing this to hold myself accountable and you know have something like yeah you have to train today and you have to try and lift this this much which you know am i going to lift a weight at the garage gym competition that people are gonna be like oh shit cws is bad no that's not that's not gonna happen and yeah that's why i was going all bumper plates for a while so it's the look it's all about you know all about the look to confuse the people and the thing is that heavy it's certainly at least force them to do mental math. It's certainly a wide amount of weights. I don't know if it's a heavy weight, but it's girthy. They're really sticking out there. Because like jiu-jitsu guys and MMA guys that I coach,

they don't know any better. They think it looks like a lot of plates out there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, coach, did the bar always bend so much? And I was like, yeah, well, I mean, it's just what I do. I'm not even going to post what actual weight that was because it's not enough for me to do that but yeah bumpers for likes is a definitely a real thing yeah yep especially not calibrated kilos like that's unfortunately i have yeah those but yeah i think that that is a real thing though like that a few different people

that we've talked to have tested that and not even necessarily against bumpers but calibrated kilos versus uh traditional iron plates that they will literally post the identical thing and the one with the uh thicker iron plates will get like certainly get more likes and views out of it yeah which is a funny thing i i might need to go around the corner from my house and get some of those strength co ones and that's we'll talk more about that when the problem with the strength codes they're so perfectly machined and black and even that you almost can't tell what's on the bar like you can't discern the number like what it's where one starts and the other one begins yeah Yeah, yeah. But they're the real deal.

Yeah. As long as we're talking about it, why don't I tell you a little bit more about the strength? Yeah, we're about at that time. That's a segue. Yeah. You know what you were doing right there. It's not my first rodeo here. This is The Strength Company.

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new segment. We also have a sack segment. We can't forget about that. We'll do this followed up by what's in Tanner's sack. Chad, you will get to see what's in my sack. That's part of the most fulfilling part about being here in person. I thought we were going to find that out at Pounders.

It just hits differently, I guess. So this is a new segment to the podcast. The working title of it is Has Tommy Seen It? So today it's actually going to be a special version of the segment. It's going to be Has Tommy and or Chad Seen It? And within the last six months, we've come to this realization that

tommy hasn't really seen any movies it started we were talking about blowing it we were talking about tom cruise one day and we uh were going through tom cruise movies and he hadn't seen almost any of any movies where tom cruise is in it and that's like where the phenomenon started and we've just like built on it and so now we have this game and we go year to year i pick a few movies from each year and we see has tommy seen them where do you think like where do you fit in as far as like uh your movie watch history like do you think you've seen a lot of movies or not that many or how do you feel uh you know i i think i have pretty deep pop culture references uh i don't know that just volume of movies that high but there's definitely movies and tv shows that i've seen multiple multiple and embarrassing amount of time yes according to some people but uh yeah according

to marissa perhaps yeah i think i've i think i've seen a lot of stuff just because so i'm i'm 36 but my brothers are 45 and 48 so i've gotten to almost be part of like a gen x kind of culture my own millennial age group and then from coaching a lot of like high school football and and college athletes get a little bit of the the gen z years in there so yeah i know what the kids what the kids like what the olds like you kind of span the spectrum then okay so we what we do is i pick seven movies and it's not necessarily the highest grossing movies, but I pick a year. So this week, the year is 1991,

and there's going to be seven of them. Just knowing it's 1991 and there's seven, how many out of the seven do you think you've seen? What's your best guess? At least five. Tommy? My guess is going to be two again this week. Okay, last week in 1990 tommy got

two he had seen two and we were talking edward scissorhands days of thunder uh arachnophobia uh was it goodfellas or goodfellas yeah there's a few in there i hope that the five that i've seen are the that were opposites yeah yes yeah yeah Together we can make seven. I like that. I like that. Synergy. Okay, so we'll get started here. 1991, have they seen it? The Addams Family. I've not seen The Addams Family.

Yeah. Yes. So, zero, one, you know, Michael Fester thing, it. I mean, I know there was a TV show of it too, wasn't there? Or was it just a cartoon? That's older. Yeah, the black and white TV show. Right, black and white TV show. There was probably a cartoon at some point in time.

Fun fact there. The Addams Family is... Have you seen that new Netflix show, The Watcher? I'm familiar with it. It's really, really good. You're kind of spinning the segment back on us right now, aren't you? Have we seen The Watcher? I was reading an article, like the article that the watcher is based

on and the adams family house is based on a house from that same town as the watcher okay okay the more you know yeah okay so zero one have you played the adams family video game on nes i i haven't i'm surprised that i've seen the Addams Family because I don't like scary movies. And I know that the Addams Family is not a scary movie. But when I was five years old, I'm sure that I would have been like, no, that's like a horror movie. Because I hadn't seen Goonies until I was like 30. Because I probably saw a part of it when I was six and I was scared. So in my mind, Goonies was a scary movie and I do not like scary movies.

I also do not like scary movies. I'm not a scary movie either. I don't like that feeling of just artificially making myself scared. I don't enjoy that. Like that show, The Watcher, I'd call that more of a thriller. Like a psychological stuff, I can deal with that I'm not into like demons and ghouls

that spooky stuff yeah yeah okay that ad read you did I know about leaving yeah okay next one this might be my favorite on the list from 1991 or have you seen it point break all-time classic.

I've actually never seen all of Point Break. I've seen parts of it. Stop the podcast. Let's start right now. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen all of it. I know what happens in it.

So are we saying that yes or no? I'd say no, because to me, to me, I feel like to say I've seen it, I have to have sat down and watched it from beginning to end, like you would watch a movie.

Utah. Give me two. What's the scene where they're at the end when they're on the beach? Yeah, is that where he says that? Yeah, yeah. That's a good movie. Point Break is something I could watch.

I could watch it right now and I'd be happy watching it again. I actually did watch it maybe three or four days ago because we saw a truck driving through the neighborhood like this like lifted late 80s early 90s you know like chevy with flames on it and i was like i'm pretty sure that that's the truck that the that the gang anthony cavis's gang is driving around and in point right bunker Wyatt I think is one of their bad guys names and just such a I mean

watching that when I was you know a lot of these I was watching with my brothers when I was like five or six years old

like way inappropriate age you know there's boobs and violence all that good stuff yeah

and that that scene where they you know spoiler alert for you I mean At this point I had like 30 years

Yeah but when they Raid that house and the shootout And Tom signs more I think I like this hair Good movie I'll put it on the list So Zero Two Directed byatherine bigelow

ex-wife to james cameron really yeah i thought he also directed zero dark 30 oh okay i don't have these uh things written down by the way this is a free script yeah yeah well you live in california so you kind of have the entertainment connections. Right, right, right. It's like your duty to know the stuff. We usually get the movies here a couple years late after you get to see them. Yeah, all my cousins in Minnesota and stuff, and I was a kid, and my brother's more into surfing and skating than I was.

I was too big for that kind of thing. But my cousins would be like, oh, have guys been, have you heard of this like Quicksilver or Billabong? Yeah, we were waiting on that like seven years ago. Gosh. Okay, next one, Tommy. I would not believe,

I don't believe you can say you didn't see this. Don't put this pressure on me. I know you, it's a lock you've seen it. When I saw this one, I'm like, there's no way. And Chad, I know you've seen it too. Have you seen it? Hook. I've never seen Hook lock. You've seen it. When I saw this one, I'm like, there's no way. And Chad, I know you've seen it too. Have you seen it? Hook.

I've never seen Hook. I've never seen it. Robin Williams. No, I've never seen it. Who plays Hook? Dustin Hoffman. Yeah, that is a good... That's a straight up... I mean, I was a kid

at the time, of course, and loved it, but I think that's just straight up a good movie, though. For sure. That holds up now, I would think. And an iconic movie from our childhood. How old are you, Tommy? I'm 33. And I'm 35. Oh, I remember having friends that watched it and talked about it, and I just, I never

saw it. I love the food fight scene where, you know, it's the colored, it's actually just the colored goop, but, you know, they imagine it's like the giant turkey legs and all that stuff. Yeah, but Rufio is... Rufio. Rufio. Rufio kind of goes through an interesting character development of Rufio where at first you're like, oh, Rufio is kind of like, do I like Rufio?

Maybe I don't so much. And by the end of it, you love Rufio. Oh, yeah. Great character. But spoiler alert again, then he dies though, right? Like does Cook gets Rufio maybe i don't so much and by the end of it you love rufio oh yeah great character and but spoiler alert again then he dies though right like does cook gets rufio yeah yeah hook note knew how to uh push rufio's buttons didn't he though shmi ha mr shmi yeah great the clocks yeah that that guy's a good actor too that played i'm not sure who that uh what his name is but

a decently known actor that plays Mr. Schmee. Yeah. So have we removed all expectations at this point? I'm just, I can't believe you hadn't seen Hook. I figured that would be like a lock. So, zero, three. Okay, a comedy here. Maybe that opens the door.

I think that increases the chances. I don't know about this one, though. Have you seen it? What about Bob? I don't even remember hearing of that movie okay I figured that one was a lock at not having seen it no I figured that for following up hook that would be a good one to throw back

yeah I mean I may have seen it but it's because it doesn't stand out so who's in that one oh I don't know Bob there you go right there Bill Murray and that other guy is, Bill Murray is Bob, I think. And that's, Bob's like this kind of,

I don't know the best way to describe him. He's flaky and kind of this goofball character. And then the other guy's very straight-laced. And that's the premise. I probably have seen it, but it doesn't stand out.ard drive us there you go thanks big matt okay so you're all for four all for four three out of four a couple left here um have you seen it the silence of the lambs i have not seen the sounds of the lambs no parts but it's too scary okay that's i'm this i've never

watched all of that either for that same reason i'm just creeps me out hannibal the uh the sequel to that i have seen but yeah okay so another comedy not a lot of great comedies in 1991 so i wanted to pick a couple okay have you seen it city slickers um no i have not yes you know there's two the legend of curly's gold yeah yeah i like city slickers that's kind of uh i don't know how good that movie is still or not where it holds up but just the air of it i like it and uh i like city slickers and that's um who's the lead guy crystal billy crystal yeah yeah see a big new york knicks fan maybe something like that i think billy crystal's uh clippers okay okay clippers i was close just other side of the country yeah they're completely different teams and not really close

okay so zero zero six you like an unprecedentedly bad unprecedentedly bad one for you and you're four out of six i I think last one here. We'll call it four and a half. We I've tried to watch. Okay. I've seen enough. Yeah. I'd say of, uh,

silence of the lambs. Yeah. This last one, we ended with Arnold last time, right? And we're ending with Arnold in 1991. I haven't seen many Arnold movies either. Have you seen it?

Terminator two judgment day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. An all time. Great. Yeah. Yeah.

I will say it's full circle. Catherine Bigelow, James Cameron, director of Terminator two, Judgment Day. Yeah. An all-time great. Yeah. And that's full circle. Catherine Bigelow, James Cameron, director of Terminator 2. Ah, yes. That was a big year for them because that's when they were married. That's a big year for them. It's been a very long time

since I've seen Terminator 2 in its entirety, though. I think, am I out of line in saying that Terminator 2 is better than Terminator 1 where that could be a sequel? Yeah, I think that's pretty... Term who is just an all-time great movie yeah in any regard i i wasn't sure on the years i thought that you may have been getting towards an another arnold not classic but jingle all the way or uh twins or uh last action, see, I barely know what the.

Nope, I don't even know. It's not one of his best. But so the, is my sound not good here? Maybe point it towards you just a little if you can. Okay. There we go. Oh, that sounds real crisp now. That is.

Oh, yeah, that does sound a lot better. Sorry about that, everyone. We'll just redo that last. We'll just, you know you know we're 40 minutes in we'll just restart the podcast that's it's tough to get this thing far enough over here to because i want to look at you guys yeah yeah uh last action hero where i mean i'm not even gonna say this stuff to tommy because obviously he's not gonna know but he'll get none of these right this is where he there's like a golden ticket situation and he the magic ticket and he goes through the screen and becomes part of the movie austin o'brien is the child actor in it so arnold is playing an arnold schwarzenegger like

character jack slater who has like all these jack slater films. Yes, The Ripper. Yeah, so Austin O'Brien, the child star in it, went to my church, and I was in several productions up on this big church. Now it's like over 10,000 people, but at the time it was maybe three, 4,000 attendees. So like a Christmas play kind of thing. Your boy was a child actor, actor with,

with Austin O'Brien the same time that he was in last action hero. So I, I was probably, I guess last action hero was maybe more like 93. So I was like seven or eight. And I was. So you basically have been in a movie with Arnold. Pretty much. One degree.

If we were playing like six degrees of Kevin Bacon. If we were playing two degrees of Arnold Schwarzenegger, I'm in it. And, but not to toot my own acting horn here, but, but his, his parents were like, Chad's like a really good actor. And we know acting. We've seen Arnold. Yeah. They were trying to get my parents to make me become a child actor.

Probably the biggest holdup would have been like, I was six, but you know, looked like I was nine with the head of a 28 year old. And probably a lot of times with child actors it works better in reverse when you're 10 and you look six. Exactly. So you could have been in home improvement or

Boy Meets World or Home Alone maybe. Heavyweights probably. I could have been a fucking mighty duck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dang.

How things, I wouldn't be sitting here with you. Well, what about gold Goldberg? I think he didn't pan out great for him. Right. You know, he's got his life together since then.

Does he? Yeah. Okay. Let's check in on old Sean Weiss, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeahiss, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a rough patch there for a while. So that was Has He Seen It? Tommy, you did not disappoint it.

You have not. Just all in all, you have not seen it. We're two weeks in. I'm two for 14. Three, because you did get one out of this one, and you had two. Oh, yeah, yeah. So three out of 14. That's right.

Pretty terrible. I think as we get later into the 90s, though, we're thinking you're going to pick up a little bit. I think we're going to do better as the 90s go to pick up a little bit that'll be exciting to find out Point Break though you gotta get on that there is a thing like people love Keanu Reeves kind of right

that's a thing that people and that is just an awesome movie though really good movie Point Break it's on Netflix right now so you're good you're not gonna watch it are you see if i can sneak that in there was a point point break had a live show that they were doing like a stage version really and they would hold auditions called point break live uh they would hold auditions for the johnny utah character out of the audience

wow so someone from the audience played. Did you go to this ever once? Yeah, we tried to set it up to go for my birthday probably eight years ago, 10 years ago now, but it did not work out, but I was really pumped about, like, we've got to make this happen. It just never worked out.

But yeah, so they'd have them do the, I am an FBI agent scene as the audition yeah yeah pick them and and it looked pretty awesome uh you guys start doing massonomics like that where you just pick the guest post out of yeah yeah uh what the tryout would entail we wing it like here's some sparkling water what do you think of the flavor? Give us a describe that better movie than heavyweight. Oh, actually best Mighty Ducks movie out of the trilogy too. Yeah. Yeah. And then better movie.

Heavy weights for Mighty Ducks too. I'm man. I was never huge into Mighty Ducks. My son is super big. He watched, he's watched all three Mighty Ducks like on. He's watched every one of them like five times. So I've seen them all as of late even too.

I'm going heavyweights though. Heavyweights is really good. I think as a kid, hockey did not relate to me at all. So that was heavyweights. I can confidently say that as an adult, heavyweights will stand up as the better movie. Yeah, that's true. And that's maybe what the frame of mind I'm thinking that.

Yeah, and it was not, I don't think, written as a children's movie that much. Right. This was sort of like, oh, it's Ben Stiller. There's children in it. Yeah. But yeah, Heavyweights is very funny. Yeah, it does hold up.

I noticed earlier on the Discord crew, the guys listening along live with us, that there was almost like a Juggernaut AI inception going on because he was literally training right now. I think it was Big Matt number two. He posted he was literally in the middle of training on Juggernaut AI and here he is sitting listening to you live. Oh, Big Matt.

30 seconds remaining. That is funny it's always good in the gym when someone has their phone plugged in and then the music just stops 30 seconds i'm in a bridge block right now so i'm you know i've always got the automatic timer on it so it's popping on all the time begin your next set do you what does it feel like if you're using it and that like it is that an odd feeling to you when it's your own when it's you yourself telling yourself 30 seconds remaining uh it would be i don't i don't use the the timer yeah okay okay that would be i am the time yeah like what do i need that for i am that yeah i was worried when he got off the plane for a second there, if you were really you,

or if you had just sent, you know, Chad, Chad, and actually, as I'm thinking out loud, I'm not really sure. That could very well be to be decided.

Like there could be multiple, you probably also in, you know, some other, I don't know where else you would want to go besides here, but you could send another version of you out somewhere into the world. Yeah, maybe like southeastern central Oklahoma or something. To get all the directionals in there. A couple things I did. There was a few Juggernaut AI things I wanted to hit,

but we also have this impending sack segment. Tommy, which one do you think we should do first? I don't know. You're in control here. Chad, are you curious at all about what's in the sack right now? What's in my sack? Tommy's sack. Both of our sacks. It's Tanner's sack. It's very much Tanner's sack.

Yeah, I mean, let's go for it. Okay, let's find out what's in the sack. Long recurring segment. I think our original segment. This might be the first segment in the history of the show. What's in Tanner's sack? Tanner, it's only right that I hand it to you since it is your sack. I'm going to tip this this way.

Yeah. And then, Chad, this is actually for you to look at here. And this side of it isn't as interesting as the other side. So we've got you something to commemorate your visit here. Oh, this is fantastic. Oh, this is fantastic. So for those listening, what would you describe what you've done? I don't show it to them?

You can show it to them. So this is from a previous time on the show when I was asked right about fighting Louie Simmons. What was the question? Who would win in a fight? A Louie Simmons with a Chad Wesley Smith body. You know, there's the Louie Simmons brain and head on a Chad Wesley Smith body or a Chad Wesley Smith brain and head on a chad wesley smith smith body or a chad wesley smith brain and head on a louis simmons yeah and i think as i like to do i i sort of tried to turn it around on you guys and and realize that the the issue with fighting

louis simmons rest in peace yeah yeah would uh still alive at the time when we had this discussion now yeah it was all in good taste yes it was uh that the issue would be what sort of accessories does he have access to because if you know the louis simmons action figure comes equipped with the full array of west side accessories bands he's got bands chains boards to to hit me with he's got a reverse hyper to regenerate his body from any level of of damage yep you know like if this is a video game and he hops on that reverse hyper that energy bar that stamina is just coming right yeah yeah yeah you know regenerative abilities that the other individual would not have in this scenario. Yeah, I've got a barbell.

Well, I think we even made the joke at the time, you've got a tool belt with the seven scientific principles of strength training, and you'd be like, individual differences. Which you get hit across the face of the tube board. Just hits different. Yeah. Pure knowledge. Well, not, you can't stand up against that. Yeah. So a fan, you guys have very dedicated fans.

It's impressive who illustrated this. So this is a big Andy. He's a western northeast south dakota native also and uh we uh commissioned we on occasion commissioned him to do uh these comics for us and he made this six slide comic and this was kind of the perfect like when we had this story and i thought back on it i'm like that's absolutely one that we need uh it is a comic comic to exist for i appreciate this i'm not too sure that you're gonna be able to slide that in your carry-on, so we're probably going to have to ship that to you. With that other sign. You're just going to get a bunch of signs in the mail from us when you get home.

Yeah. It's got the guy on the reverse hyper... With Wolverine behind him. Yeah, because he's just regenerated himself like Wolverine. Me with the Louis Simmons tattoos is horrifying.

So that was what was in my sack. Well, thank you very much. I feel much relieved to get it out of my sack. That was a large frame with sharp edges. So it's good to get it out of there. And then, like I te teased i wanted to talk the juggernaut ai app we've talked about a little bit but more specifically digging into the app as of late there's been a couple recent updates um a couple updates back you added i don't know

if it's called tools or you know it's bottom tab all the way to the right and it's got uh you know plate calculator some different things like that involved there. And then as of more recent, you added the warm-up feature. Yeah, so the guided warm-up feature I think was solving a big pain point for the users. A surprising amount of people, because they would just see top set and then the the down sets and they would just go right to that top set really yeah more more people than you would expect certainly as i would have expected nobody oh yeah right on that but uh it was like they just would throw that on the bar and that'd be the first yeah that was definitely happening there's also people who have used the app for at least weeks if not months and never press start training like they just kind of do

it off the preview which i'm shocked that they stayed with it because they would have been like this app really sucks yeah it just tells you the name of the exercise when they found that out there probably like wow yeah like this happened actually yeah yeah yeah it was it was blowing blowing their mind but uh so whether they were making the the error of just going straight to the top set or not quite knowing how to warm up we we added this guided warm-up feature but it's not just you know warm-up sets the uh you know the the other kind of difficult part for people, and this is, you know, not unique to our app, but is hitting the RPE target effectively. So as they go through the guided warmup feature, and just when you're warming up for training, app aside, guided warmup feature

aside, every set that you're doing warmups is informing informing you you know how do you feel are you you know do you feel strong today do you feel weak today is it a good day is it a bad day kind of thing and and we're taking care of that some with the initial questionnaire but on another level with the guided warm-up feature as you get through those earlier warm-up sets and get to the weights that can really start to tell you like, all right, I'm having a strong day.

I'm having a weekday. Um, we have you rate those warmup sets and the, uh, so as you rate those warmup sets, Marissa came up with a very intuitive, I think a rating system of the shit emoji, thumbs up or fire. We've been think, rating system of the shit emoji, thumbs up, or fire emoji. We appreciate that specifically, so it's interesting that she came up with that.

We've had conversations about how it's fun that that's what the rating is in there. Yeah, and I think it hopefully doesn't require too much explanation of what it is, but that felt like shit. doesn't require too much explanation of what it is but well that felt like shit you know i kind of think of it if you were you know if you had a one-on-one online coach and they asked how's warm-ups feeling you may just respond with one of those emojis anyways or if you're in person with the coach and they ask how like shit yeah and you're you know sort of thumbs down. So I like that because Marissa came up with that. It's super intuitive. So if you're telling us, all right, that warm-up set felt good,

then we know that maybe as you came into the day with what the RPE chart says you should feel like. So someone who squats 400 pounds, if they're supposed to go to a five rep max at seven RPE, that should be, you know, all things being equal. You look at the RPE chart, it's going to be three 15 for five at seven, but as they start going and maybe they are having kind of a strong day and they go fire fire, that could be, you know, take them up to three 25 for five. And the second layer is, is going to get added to it. But you know, if they hit three 25 for five at seven, the first week, then the next week when eight and a half is the goal, you know, all things being equal at the start of that block, the plan would have been 315, you know, 330, 345.

But after they do 325 for five the first week because they felt good and they hit the target of seven and rated it as such, now 330 the next week would be too low. So now it's going to move that next week's target, maybe up to 335. Right. And then the rating system will do its thing within the context of that session. And then, you know, also extend, you know, adjust the goal for the, for the next week up, down, you know, whichever way is appropriate, or maybe it's just hitting the target as planned. But I think that's going to solve a lot of issues for, for people and just make them you know more effectively be

able to use the app which is always our goal here something i picked on picked up on that i particularly like about the guided warm-up now is before um you're coming off a night of bad sleep you don't feel that motivated to train uh you're sore in a couple areas and you're rating that honestly as it should be before your workout. It's maybe dialing back some things which would make sense for it to do. But then now on occasion, that's how you feel prior to you starting to work out.

You know you had this bad sleep. You know you didn't eat quite right. And it's dialing everything back. But then you start warming up. And all of a sudden i just kidding that's all true but i actually do feel good today so now it's a second check and a second adjustment that's like in real time exactly that uh perhaps it was thought it needed to be moved down all of a sudden you're warming up turns out i do actually feel good and maybe it's adjusted back the other way so it is like a second real-time adjustment that you're not getting if you're not using this uh juggernaut ai training

you know it's like a coach in your pocket sometimes it's even more than a like sometimes because you i don't know if every coach even if you're right there if you're really if they're asking those questions all the time like they should be and if you're answering them honestly whereas when it is a coach in your pocket you i mean you should be answering on this honestly that's always the caveat i guess as long as you're answering it honestly then it is making those adjustments on the fly every single time yeah because even you know a an online a one-on-one online coaching situation like yeah maybe you're texting like it would be pretty rare to have a coach that's like i'm trying to this time i'm going to text you and also every workout i will be there too and through every single lift i'm doing i want you to know every set as it goes

i don't have a life. Just keep me busy with what you're doing in your training. Yeah. Yeah. So my follow-up question to that, we talked about some of the most recent updates, and I don't know if maybe you don't want to throw any of this out there, but what do you see going forward for changes?

Is there anything that you would talk about that you think is relatively near on the horizon? Yeah, in the near future, roadmap stuff will be a lot more robust, like graphing and tracking of progress, of estimated maxes in all the lifts. So yeah, that'll be a big piece. Uh, redoing the exercise history, uh, how that's displayed is going to be done a lot more effectively. Um, I think that'll be really helpful for people. And then there's going to be a strong

man, uh, program going in as well uh you know people had asked about strongman stuff a lot and it's the strongman program is not going to be the robustness of the powerlifting program because it would just be really impractical to do that for strongman um because you don't know what the person's getting ready for and there's so many different events like there's really not limited well the variables and implements too right yeah and then the the variables in implements that people have available like i you know i was a professional strongman i won 2012 strongman nationals and got my pro card there. I did that with two Atlas stones, basically a light one and a heavy one.

Right. You know, I think one of them was about 300 and the other one was about 365. And, you know, so unless someone has like stone of steel and they can go by, by these. Yeah.

How, what's your progressive overload? Exactly. Yeah. Or they go to massonomics gym. That would. Well, yeah. Just make a quick road trip here. Yeah. Yeah. So way too many variables. by these yeah how what's your progressive overload exactly yeah or they go to massonomics gym that would well yeah just make a quick road trip here yeah yeah so way too many variables in that but it will be a you know more template based strongman program that will adjust volume

initially for them based on you know individual differences the way that we do basically categorizing them into like all right this is a higher volume, a medium volume, or a low volume person because of their size, age, gender, strength, experience, all that stuff. And then so that'll, that'll adjust their initial program. They'll be able to say, all right, I want to train these three events and it'll do it the way that I trained strong man. Uh, when I was competing and coaching a lot of strong men was we're going to train, you know, one event for strength, one event for speed, one event for endurance each event day and rotate those through is unless you have this very specific show that you're getting ready for and you're

kind of training you know just to compete at that show which isn't quite as necessary for strongman i feel like because there's going to be another show after that and it's going to have different stuff um you know if you can be a strong overhead presser and a strong deadlifter be good at yoke farmers and stones and be able to carry stuff it's gonna cover you on a pretty wide you're pretty good at strongman right right every every strongman show i did and it wasn't a ton but it was you know enough to become a pro uh there was at least one event that i had never done before when i when i got to the show i mean granted i signed up for my first strongman show six days before, uh, it was happening and just

turned out that I was a strong man. So it worked out. Yeah. But yeah, it's a, so I think it'll, it'll give really effective training for people. They're something that a lot of people asked about. So that'll be pretty soon. And then weightlifting early ish 2023 a lot of specialty programs like bench only deadlift only push pull uh like a squat emphasis bench emphasis so still full programs but where you can kind of just bias the program towards you know a certain lift that you want to work on more those are all relatively relatively soon so you can rest assured that continued development is happening oh yeah as telling you guys at dinner last night i'd say the app is 60 done from what we you know of what we have planned now which is a funny thought because when i look at it um it looks pretty pretty polished yeah right right right well it's gonna be really shiny

really really really polished we're only 60 polished yeah yeah uh no that's exciting and that is part of like uh as someone that uses it that is kind of a fun part of it too when there is an update oh like i just expect i'm like to me just give me my numbers and let me do my thing and i'm good yeah and then when i go in and the guys at the gym are like oh did you get the update and i open it up and it's always surprising like oh there is stuff going on in here there's more to be done so that is appreciated and uh this was like a really long ad segment we'll just bill you like for the difference um what about uh juggernaut ai uh is there anything we didn't really cover that we should

talk about on it um i'm just thinking out loud that's the biggest thing i was just personally curious about is what's coming. And that strongman piece is interesting because we have a few strongmen at our gym that have actually been asking about that. And I think that there'll be some serious interest in that probably when that does come out. Yeah. And in the meantime, I even got a customer service question this morning. Someone asking, you know, how would i do strongman with it and i'd suggest to those people do a three day a week lifting plan in their power lifting or power building whichever you prefer really yep and then just do a fourth event day on your own with you know the moving whatever you're preparing for for that next show yeah yeah that makes sense

so we know about your power lifting career and you talked about your strongman. Did you ever do Highland Games at all? One Highland Games in like 2017. I mean, I was a shot putter. Because yeah, that's like, that'd be such a natural. Yeah, in like a number of ways, probably. Yeah, my last track meet was in 2010. And in those seven years between last track meet and first Highland Games, I got really slow and unathletic.

But still, you had to have been pretty good at it. I went straight into the pro division because of being famous. Matt Vincent kind of told them, yeah, okay, this guy's good. It was right down the street from my house, Costa Mesa, Highland Games, some Scottish festival they had there. And I did not get last in the pro division,

so that was good. So open stone, which is more or less shot put, that and bread mar stone, which is like standing shot put. Power throw. Yeah. So I did pretty well in both of those and pretty well in both the hammer throw

events yep could not turn the caber over and that that one is like what you know what could i have done prior to that that would have had to train that no no but i did you know destroy some of the you know destroy some of the the implements oh snap yeah yeah yeah so i i'm trying to get the caber up and i i you know can't can't get into position so i drop it as it falls over i'm kind of just walking away from it and frustration similar to you know how arnold in like the last action hero would be walking away from an explosion as the caber falls over it smashes on the way down a can of spray tacky which is

compressed so that explodes and it hits a tie like a toe strap that's holding up the weight over bar thing so it snaps that did the weight over bar so it snaps that did the weight over bar

it didn't fall over but this highly tensioned toe strap just flies out of there with the explosion from the can kind of simultaneously so it was it was pretty epic but that was the last event anyway so what are they going to do

kick him out it was already done well you said if I can't turn this stupid caber, I'm not going to let anyone do it. Yeah, but Highland Games is a very fun community. Great guys with that. When you talked about having a number of hobbies you enjoy, is that something you would ever – that's something I could still picture you doing.

You could still roll up and have a good time.. Like you could still like, uh, uh, roll up. Yeah. You can be good at that right now. Like no doubt. Yeah. You know, the, the competing stuff is,

is tough for me just in the sense that if I do it, I want to be like really good at it. And I don't have the, the will to be really good at any of it now. Like jiu-jitsu so 20 2019 i was competing a bunch in jiu-jitsu but then i'm training jiu-jitsu five six times a week doing strength conditioning specific to that and it became less fun really because i was treating it so seriously where now you know go train two three times a week but i can you know train techniques that i know i would never use in a tournament but you know because they're not like my a game kind

of thing but they're more fun to do and i don't have to stress about it that way so yeah could i probably go and do highland games and be good enough that they wouldn't be like oh who is this right jabroni over here and so, oh, who is this jabroni over here? Is that the second time I've used jabroni? It might be the first. I mean, you have a 10-time limit. There's never a wrong time to use jabroni. Let me check the jabroni.

The counter, the counter. Yeah, I don't think they would see that i'm i'm you know out of place but it wouldn't be for me like yeah i mean it's a fun thing to do on the on the weekend i guess but i feel like i'd have to be training it and you know i have enough of my time dedicated to being average at golf yeah yeah um and unfortunately are all the golf courses closed right now they're basically you might there might be one open maybe yeah yeah it's that time of the year you know yeah i suppose they don't ever close where you're at do they they do not yeah yeah it's a different little different vibe here it's like simulator season here now basically yeah

which you got to hit up the simulator in the minneapolis airport simulators yeah those it looked like where you was this like in a like a airport lounge of some kind or was it just uh so we're walking through that kind of like mall part of the of the monstrous minneapolis airport and just look up and on the second level sort of where the airport lounges would be to, you know, glass backed simulators. So I could see right into them and I had a two hour, two hour layover.

So it worked. It looked like on a par three there, you had really close to pin. Is that what you know? It looked nice. A nice shot. I'm not a golf expert, but it looks like a nice shot.

Thank you. That was actually the only shot that I filmed. That's what I was going to ask. Delete, delete, delete, delete, delete.

Yeah, it was, it was the only shot I filmed. So that worked out really well. Wait, say, well, that did take a half hour to get to that point.

You can see the pile of broken clubs. We do each week. We have a supporting our supporting members segment and uh what we do is we have a group of supporting members that choose to uh sign up for our supporting memberships and they give to us every month so we like to give back to a few of them every month and uh this month who we're going to support is big nick big nick just competed in a powerlifting meet. He squatted 606, benched 385, and deadlifted 694. 1685 total. And best part, he won a dagger.

Yes. As we like to call a sword award. A sword award. Those are the best kind of. Have you ever won any weaponry from lifting? You know, I actually don't think that i have really which is very surprising that's a shame yeah no you know like double-sided battle axes or just like a six-foot sword of some kind yeah the rod sword if i did i did not bring it home the it is a bit

of a liability when an airplane's involved yeah almost half the powerlifting meets i did were in australia i did win some really big trophies they're big metal trophies which did not get brought home either because where do you think they are today probably they're still in the gyms that that the okay because it was like a four foot tall you know piece of metal And I was like, do I want to ship this back to America for like $200? And they weren't first place. So it was, yeah. A sword might've been worth it though.

If it was a true sword award. Yeah. Those tough, tough to get through. We think so. Well, what we've said about that though, it's funny,

you know, swords, a common award, but why not other, other weaponry do we stop at? Like, about that, though, it's funny. You know, sword's a common award, but why not other weapons? What weaponry do we stop at? Well, we've even said, wasn't it way back in some CrossFit games, guns were given away? I think that that's right in one of the early CrossFit games.

In like the 2015 or 2016, guns were given away. But why not grenades? You know, while we're at it. I like bow staff. Bow staff, yeah. Here's your staff. Who's your guys' favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Okay, now that's a question.

I can say right now it's not Donatello for me. Okay, is Donatello, who has swords? That's Leonardo. Leonardo is blue with swords blue donatello is the bo staff okay that's a is boast donatello bo staff anyone's favorite ninja turtle no he's the nerd exactly so like you can just take white kids yeah you can basically wipe him off of the table and uh leonardo although the leader he's off the he's not in it for me either like i don't know maybe it just didn't associate with

the actual like true leader of the group but uh to me it's between rafael and uh michelangelo rafael the tough to me the toughest ninja turtle yeah the bad boy right and uh michelangelo numchucks numchucks cool weapon also like fun turtle yeah i'd say rafael the size probably the weakest yeah but it's so climactic he doesn't need yeah swords you know like that like he'll probably just hold a scion punch you in the mouth you know like that yeah i was a rafael kid yeah yeah i kind of lean towards rafael but i also associate a little bit with michael something about two swords was just too cool to me two swords too cool and the red band do you actually even know what we're talking about have you ever seen ninja turtles i had a lot the name like the name is okay yeah i forgot i had a ton of ninja turtles

action figures that was i had a couple of action figures i would i had i was a big fan of the ninja turtles super nintendo game i can't remember what that was very fun was it revenge of can't remember what it was called what was the guy that had the brain in his in his stomach krang krang or krang yeah yes yeah yes the i think he was the first boss of the first level yeah the both the first two movies the third one the turtles in time not great but the first two movies, the third one, the Turtles in Time, not great. But the first two, excellent. Oh, I forgot about Turtles in Time, yeah. Another situation like Mighty Ducks, I'd say, where number two is my favorite one, I'd go 2-1-3.

I don't know who shot those movies, but they're a little... I think it was Steven Spielberg, I'm pretty sure. They feel a little dark. They're a little dark, aren't they? i haven't watched them for a point of yeah children right right there have you ever seen and again that aimed at you oh i just assume you're not talking earplugs uh the little netflix show the toys that made us oh good show they have a ninja turtles one and they talk about that with the movie how like dark the movie was so yeah uh ninja turtles based on like a graphic novel kind of uh deal and yeah and

much darker and then they had to kind of lighten it up and then kids yeah for the cartoon version but then the movies were more in the yeah for the for the cartoon they threw in like more cowabungas and uh yeah more of that language. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, pizza. They loved their pizza, didn't they? They did. Who was it?

And they were only teenagers. Raphael was jacked for a teenager. Well, the ooze. The mutant part of it. The ooze is a performance enhancing drug. That's true. Yeah. They were not natural, were they?

We should check the WADA list for that. on there a banned substance what was the ooze was it like radioactive waste from a 55 gallon drum is that what got them or something like that and it leaked into the sewer yes that's the drip down on yeah i wonder lucky it only landed on turtles if not any number of other things. Well, they get that snapping turtle and the little wolf kind of thing. Yeah, what were their names? Bebop and Rocksteady? Well, in the cartoon, they're Bebop and Rocksteady. That's right, right? Bebop and Rocksteady?

Yeah, but it's not Bebop and Rocksteady who they fight during the Vanilla Ice concert. Oh, yeah. Rocksteady? Yeah, but it's not Bebop and Rocksteady who they fight during the Vanilla Ice concert. They act like babies because it's like a baby snapping turtle and a baby. They're not as aggressive as Teenage. Shredder was pretty sinister looking in that. I forgot about that too. Yeah, wow. Man, this is really bringing

back some memories here. Go Turtles! Go Turtles! Go! Go! Go! Yeah. Go Ninja. Go Ninja, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're close. go turtles go turtles go go go yeah yeah it's just go ninja oh yeah go ninja yeah there you go you're close yeah it's been a long it's been a long time yeah i know your level of movie knowledge as good as it gets that's as good as it gets that is pretty good um so big nick congratulations on your meat is what we were getting yeah that's a great that's a great performance. And actually, 1685 total. Big Nick is a fairly low body weight class, too. I don't know what he competes at, like maybe about 180 or something.

Very strong. Very strong dude. Big Noah, he hit a 600-pound deadlift PR for the first time. And he said if he would have wore the deadlifter shorts, his lockout would have been a little cleaner. And isn't that always the case? And if he was using the Juggernaut AI, in the hashtag it would have been a seven and i would have reposted him that's let that be a lesson that's pretty much my entire social media presence

at this point reposting uh juggernaut ai lifts uh yeah they say that that can't be your personality but i'll show them uh big joseph uh big joseph he just uh completed a meet he had prs in all three all three lifts earlier this year he hit a 10 25 total in a second meet now he had an 11 0 7 total 82 pound increase and he met a fellow massonomics fan there that complimented him on his party never dies t-shirt and he tried to recruit him to join our Discord crew. So great work on the meet. Even better job on the recruitment effort. Because there is only three spots left.

Yeah, there is. You go to a meet. You recruit a guy. All of a sudden, he's in the Discord. The next thing you know, he's running Juggernaut AI. And then he's buying the Strength Co. plates. While wearing barefoot shoes. It just keeps going.

While ordering a British a british hazmat suit from swiss link yeah with a nato fuel can and last one this week uh big david he competed at strongman corp nationals nationals uh along with uh massonomics gym member big tim they were it looked like massonomics was well represented there. So along with competing, which congrats on that, he also had the following confirmed Massonomics merchandise sightings at Strongman Nationals. His self in black and blue lift shorts, Bobby Thompson. This is a real rich guy.

Yeah, it's not anymore. He has since transferred his wealth to us, thankfully. Does he not know know there's a recession in this economy uh bob big bobby thompson in the deadlifter shirt not not an on strong guy right there and bobby thompson he knows how to move some weight uh big tim from massonomics gym in the lift hat and eight bit strongman shirt uh big harrison in the lift shorts one and three and he actually in true massonomics fashion he couldn't get the last it was either

an axle or barbell deadlift as a part of a deadlift medley he couldn't get it so he switched up and tried to pull it Jefferson Jefferson deadlift style and also couldn't get it but it was A for effort on that big Alex

he got an Arnold invite and he was wearing the blue lift shirt while he was doing it. And his wife in a nice rack tee. Big Zach in the headband. And Big Steve was there coaching in the 8-bit strongman shirt. And Big Pablo in the don't curl in me shirt.

So great job getting us that list of all the strongman merchandise. All the mass dynamics merchandise all the mass dynamics merchandise so and he's a supporting member thank you to all of our supporting members everyone else come join up be a supporting member you'll get in on the discord crew which uh chad himself is in on the discord crew you were just in there talking earlier today very very briefly this one is slightly overwhelming we like to say it's a very active community and maybe that's putting it lightly

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That's kind of how it goes in Massanomics Gym. Yep. A little corner of my CrossFit gym back in the, mostly my heyday of my powerlifting career. No coincidence that it was with a Texas power bar then, is it? I think like 875 squat on a Texas power bar, I believe. Wow. Not on a Texas squat bar, on a Texas power bar.

Power bar. Wow, that's loading that thing up. Yes, that is. That wasn't with bumper plates. That was with the, just the old fashioned metal plates. Yeah. Yeah.

The, the special bar, like the special bars and stuff, it gets a little, quite a bit overrated. Like I, we were, we were hosting a,

this like charity event and, uh, with, with the U. Iron Club back in the day. It was a Halloween party and raise money for charity, and we had lifting exhibitions. So I squatted 915 at that on a Lico bar, and there were these two guys their exhibition thing was going to be uh a pause squat off like who could pause squat longer which i told them terrible idea this is not that exciting to watch and i was like well they both ended up missing it because they tried to you know pause for 45 seconds this is the same kind of event just a different iteration of it that i did that 2000 total in a minute or yeah oh yeah

i think 37 seconds from start of squat to end of deadlift but so but one of the four and the pause squat thing was with 405 and they were lighter guys maybe like 165 181 type of guys but one of them was really upset that i didn't have a squat bar for he was upset for you oh he was upset you didn't have one for him to use although and you just use that for 900 like that was the reason he missed his right right well this is like in the warm-up he's like you don't have a squat bar and i was like no and he's like how am i supposed to do this well i don't know it's 400 pounds so i just fucking do it i think it's easy to become a little too reliant upon that well would you say in general um you over your lifting career and even now you don't i would get the feeling you don't worry quite so much about

um the equipment uh you know the shoes maybe like the supplements and like it kind of goes back to why at like 30 bucks a month juggernaut ai for a value is especially if like you want to get stronger some of those things don't really provide that much value in that arena. Whereas like a solid training philosophy. Yeah. Program's going to go way, way longer towards making you strong than any kind of bar is in any kind of supplement than any,

you know, shoe or, or strap or knee wrap or, or sleeve or whatever. Yeah. I'd squatted over 900. I didn't own a pair of knee sleeves. Like I didn't, I didn't have knee sleeves i think until maybe the third strongman contest i did and then

i got like a pair of blue reband knee sleeves was it because you were just taking a lot of time to google what knee sleeves add the most to my total and you just couldn't decide what the right one was and yeah i did my first meet wearing nike freeze like the squishiest ones ever and there was was a lot of people, oh man, this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Well, I just squat 800 fucking pounds. So maybe you worry more about your squat and less about your shoes. And people are kind of missing like the important stuff. Like, all right, is it worth, do you want to have a bar that is safe and holds the weight securely? Of course, it's not going to bend in the middle of it

but like was the texas power bar really whippy i i guess i didn't really ever think about it yeah i just put the plates on and lifted it and because i'd always been training with that it was as whippy as it was so it didn't really matter but blaine summer scored 500 kilos on on a 29 millimeter bar like powerlifting would be so much better if the specialty bars and different equipment you know monos okay like i can see the safety argument there but if no one had ever changed bars and no one had ever added equipment or anything it would be so much simpler and cleaner and and yeah better universal uh yeah yeah yeah that makes sense yeah chad i think you're probably familiar with our overrated underrated game

i've heard of it okay you've actually even played it before so just a refresher we've got a list a special uh set of chad topics we'll fire them over at you and it's just your job to decide if each one is overrated or underrated and you have your druthers to elaborate as much or as little as on each one as you would want but you just have to remember this is the most important part no line writing you can't line the right ride the line you ultimately have to decide if each one is overrated or underrated so if you're buckled in overrated or underrated the titleist pro v1 i'd say overrated i'm not nearly good enough to to know to know the difference well you're telling me you don't know when you're swinging through that that ball is different?

No, not quite. I feel the enhanced pressure if there's a water hazard or something. Of your expensive ball? Well, no, let's put this one back in the pocket and grab the old noodle here. A top flight that I found. There we go.

So overrated on the overrated i would imagine at california golf courses i just assume that's all you find in the rough is pro v1s i mean you probably are never in the rough so you don't know what that's like but i've heard other people talk yeah i've been imagining if a guy was in there that's what he would find yeah i play a vice yeah and yeah i'd take those and hit them on like the, with the launch monitor and compare them to that. And not that my swing is the machine like precision necessary, but you know, it feels close enough like for half,

for half the price and 95% of the performance similar, I'd say to like a rogue Ohio power bar versus a laco power bar yeah for a quarter of the price and 95 of the performance four times more but is it four times better and and what would that even mean is that going to make you lift four times more right exactly right um as a big strong guy and you know like one of the strongest guys in the world at one point in time do you feel pressure like first of all do you drive the ball long when you hit it well and like do you feel pressure that like i have to drive the ball long like oh this guy's coming up right right uh i definitely feel the the pressure yeah pre-back

surgery i could hit the ball a lot farther than i do now but post-back surgery i'm a much better golfer right right slow things down just a little and yeah the the main focus of my rehab plan coming out of the back surgery was be able to swing a golf club again and so i had like structured my rehab plan around that you know some people might be like all right well i'm going to do block pulls this week and and you know or squat to this height box or whatever in their their rehab plan and progress that down mine was all right this week i'm going to start putting and then and i'm going to chip out to 30 yards now to 50 yards yeah so i got you know a couple months of like just sort of

short game practice there and made me a much better golfer that makes sense overrated or underrated nil deals i'm trying to think of what sense the rating would be. Yeah, you can interpret it however you want. But just like, and really I guess it is more so the introduction of NIL deals. Because as a concept, it is relatively new for college athletes. Right, right. Yeah, I'll go with underrated.

Actually, I have a lot of thoughts about this. As a college athlete, a track athlete, no one gives a shit about college track, and college track doesn't make the college any money the way that football or basketball does, but that's not to say that the track athletes or the wrestlers or volleyball players or any of the non-revenue sports aren't working just as hard as the revenue sports.

They're just not getting the money for it. So it was ridiculous before to restrict a college athlete from being able to capitalize on themselves in whatever capacity they can the same way that a regular student could. And let's take this as there was a girl on the Cal track team over there named Allison Stokey, and she's now married to Ricky Fowler, the PGA pro golfer. So she's done well for herself. But she was a beautiful girl, really well-known for being very good-looking.

How many hundreds of thousands of dollars did she miss out on by nil not existing right where if she was the you know and this was also pre-instagram type of stuff but you know now that girl if without nil that great pole vaulter is restricted from whatever brand deals that that she could have gotten while a sorority girl at the same school could have done the same thing and making all this money like that just that's you know un-american like to restrict them from doing that and i think that that's the real intent of nil when they set it up was let the influencer economy kind of do its thing. And if Pounders Bar and Grill wants to sponsor

the University of South Dakota's star hockey player and he's going to show up there for happy hour on Thursday nights to sign autographs and they're going to give him a free Wings for life card and 500 bucks. Like that's awesome. Or if Tuscaloosa Chevy is like Alabama offense line going to be here on Sunday, you know, for this meet and greet. Great.

I think that that's kind of what it was intended for. While it's turned into, at least for football and basketball players, this booster now can just give you a bunch of money to go to this school. Yeah, buying you to make sure that you come to Alabama. Yeah, which I think creating some structure around that would be useful. Maybe the schools need to have a salary cap type of fund where the boosters can donate to that. And that can be distributed to the players in whatever way the,

the school wants to organize or something. Cause it, that's, I think being perceived so badly that it could turn, blow it up on itself. And that is the NIL thing at its worst. Yeah. Right.

But, but it's not taking very long to get to that either and you know if the owner of tuscaloosa chevy just wants to give the kids money and they don't have to do anything besides just show up you know go to school and play yeah that's that's all their prerogative you know uh being being a college athlete from a non-revenue sport, you know, those athletes, their time to capitalize on their, whatever level of fame they may have

as a track athlete or wrestler or swimmer or something is only those four or five years that they're in school. So I'm glad that they're being able to you know start to understand that kind of uh the potential of entrepreneurship building themselves as a brand and that you know something i'd like to do and i going forward as you think about other sort of projects for juggernaut marissa and i've started this uh kind of foundation type of deal that we're just started working on called fostering strength which we work with high school kids at a at a charter school in in Santa Ana California just a lot of low-income areas and we're teaching them about powerlifting

and then a lot of kind of the lessons that come along with that and small business, uh, ownership and entrepreneurship. And we want to start, uh, I'd like to start doing something similar with college athletes, almost like a shark tank for college athletes kind of thing. Yeah. Whereas they start to understand their NIL stuff. Like, all right, let me show you how you can take this and turn it into a real business when you get out of college. I have a lot of interest in NIL and doing something like that because there are so many athletes out there who could be creating a great life for themselves, maybe not from track and field. For me, in the shot putter, from track and field, like for me in, in the shop, when I would go to the powerlifting meets, my mom would ask,

are you going to make any money at this? Are you going to win any money at this? And I said, I don't make money from powerlifting. I make money because of powerlifting. And you know, if someone in the NIL can begin to learn, I don't make money from tennis. I'm not going to become a professional tennis player because they're not good enough probably, but they can leverage that into a tennis-related business

or some fitness-related business. That's something I'd be really interested to support and see where it could go. So NIL underrated in its potential, I think. Yeah, I totally agree yeah yeah overrated or underrated limousines for driving overrated for riding under not bad yeah yeah yeah pretty wide open uh terrain around here in aberdeen so you get around get around pretty well

yeah but it'd be tough other you know limos the turning radius isn't isn't there we went were we talking about this in in chicago or i think because we were getting like a uber you know it was like uber the suv one and it's like when's the last time you saw a limo i was gonna say they're kind of a dying uh the party bus is kind of the shuttle has basically replaced it i think the the limb a limousine hit its peak in probably like the 90s i think so like that or maybe even because it does have you know the the ergonomics of it of having to bend down and you can't party in it the same way you can in a bus or a van where you can move more freely except you can put a stripper pole exactly yeah you know get some more

lights well you could but all yeah those would be pretty limited on the yeah just your perception of yeah yeah like the stretch hummer limo or the stretch navigator limo yeah i'd say that and viewership of mtv cribs yeah we're in at the same line directly correlated yeah a magical time spinner rims while we're at it too what about non-spinning the ones that don't that's they stay solid yeah i'm not i'm not against uh the where they you know they'll put maybe like the the manufacturer's logo in the middle where that stays in place so that's level. But the rim in place, was that a thing actually? Oh yeah. That and the

chameleon paint that looks different. Yeah, like what Master P would have in his 96 Impala SS. With like some gold plated tanks at the same time. Yeah, with eight 12 inch subwoofers in the trunk. Similar times. Okay, last one, and this is, we always save the best for last.

I'm going to call an audible on the last one even here. So, overrated or underrated, Sammy's Omelet Shop in historic downtown Aberdeen. You have to factor in our service. A lot of calculations here i guess i i don't know what the rest of the world's perception of it would be so so i would go with i would go with overrated yeah as yeah it was a good 40 minutes probably before we were asked for our order it was a while um and i did do specifically say historic downtown

Aberdeen because we had a laugh about that. It's like every, it's kind of the joke is every Midwest town. Have you seen that? Every Midwest town, it says welcome to our historic downtown. And it's just like boarded up like condemned buildings. And that's how towns are around here. Ours is a little different

than that, but but not far off from each other yeah yeah so good news i do think you passed overrated underrated again now you've now passed the game twice so there's and and you also beat me at have you seen this too so you're kind of undefeated that does not mean that much i would not put that much if you lose to tommy and have i seen this you have not seen movies yeah i'm gonna assume you grew up without power you're probably like 97 years old or something like would be the only explanation or two yeah right amish people yeah yeah like actually we snuck away and

saw a few more movies than tom yeah there's a good chance the amish have probably seen hook probably probably if you're amish and about our, there's probably a chance you've seen Hook. When they're on Rumspringa. Yeah, that's right. When they're going wild. First thing on Rumspringa is Hook. That's part of the ritual. Tommy, we've got a drop coming this week.

The week that this comes out. I'm glad we waited until an hour and 42 minutes to promote our own goods. But yes, we do have a drop. This will be our first drop in almost two months. Yeah, it's been a hot minute. It has been a hot minute. But we got some different items, some items we've never, ever released before. Not just from a design standpoint, but from an actual merchandise standpoint.

Items that the world has never seen. The world has never seen the likes of these items. That's absolutely true. From Massanox. We've got some fall apparel coming out in this one for sure. Brand new tees, never printed before by us. Completely original new designs. I can't help but notice Chad here is wearing juggernaut socks.

The right one should say jug. The right one should say life the right one oh i was just but oh you got mismatched oh okay oh that's okay because yeah now it just says jug jug yeah but i am also wearing socks but these are not uh these are not juggernaut socks these are massonomic socks so that's your one teaser for this drop is uh the massonomic socks are finally coming out keep an eye out the people have clamored for it and we finally delivered for years yeah tommy do we have anything else that we that's probably everything i mean i don't want to take anything away from what we've what you know we've had such a good podcast right i'm afraid anything else might just ruin it at this point that's true we don't want to sour it now. We'd hate to have to start over. Chad, is there anything else coming up in the world of Juggernaut

or anything that we didn't talk about that we should have? Yeah, I think we got it all covered, guys. I appreciate you having me out here in the hospitality. I'm going to go lift. Yeah, we're excited to hit up the gym. We haven't been there yet, and now that's coming up soon, coming up next for us. I'll be doing my third conventional deadlift workout of the last four years.

It was on the no deadlifts for a long time, and then the just trap bar. And now you're doing the barbell. So last week, the whole time as I've been doing this train cycle for Garage Gym Competition, it's like, should I just do trap bar deadlifts in it? Because you can do any variations you want. They even allow the Jefferson deadlift, I think. Absolutely.

Confirmed. But as I was saying at breakfast, we have this idea to create a Juggernaut AI user meet database, kind of our own open powerlifting but just for app users and for that it would be required that they're doing the lifts to the competition standard right whether in an actual meet or a home meet and submitting the videos to us so if i want to be included in that to be able to you know check the box i certify that i use the juggernaut ai app to prepare for this you got to hit the conventional deadlift i have to do a conventional deadlift so i thought about just going all trap bar and then day of being like all right let's just

throw in some conventional but i'm i think being smarter by doing it a couple times yeah before it adds to longevity there. And we're excited because we're going to get to show you some of our, like we're a couple of the most exceptionally average at best lifters you will have ever seen. So this is really our time to shine. You're going to say, wow,

those guys aren't just average. They are exceptionally average. They don't just play the part. They are the part. They live the part. Yeah. It wasn't just play the part. They are the part. They live the part. Yeah, it wasn't just an act. Okay. All right.

Great episode. We appreciate you recording with us. And that about it. Should we fly it in? Chad, where do they find you? Instagram, YouTube, any of that stuff? Yeah, at Chad Wesley Smith at Juggernaut Training. Juggernaut Training Systems on Facebook, on YouTube.

Juggernaut AI app, as you fine gentlemen mentioned. Tommy, you can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner underscore Baird, but I don't care about that. Just make sure to follow Massonomics at Massonomics. See ya. All right.