Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 346: Ko Kieft of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

Big Ko joins us for this one to talk about what it takes to be the most Alpha tight end that the NFL has ever seen. We talk about what the weight rooms and training looks like in season, and find out what goes into the perfect Minnesota Juicy Lucy. Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics. Yeah. Welcome back, everyone, for a very special episode 346 of the Massanomics podcast. Your favorite podcast. The only podcast. A very long, long-running podcast with breaking no streaks. The lifting podcast about nothing, formerly known as the world's strongest podcast.

The Maths and Dynamics podcast, recorded live from western northeast South Dakota. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. And with no more further ado, we're going to talk for about 40 minutes, and then we're really going to dive into this. Just have some very basic housekeeping we have to get through really brief it'll be to the point but then after 40 minutes we will really dive into this thing yeah like all good podcasts do uh we do have an important announcement uh this week about the future of the massomics podcast yeah we don't make a lot of announcements on this podcast but there is an announcement we have a very important announcement to get to uh but before we go to

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It erupts audio and you got your barefoot shoes on. This comes natural. So we do have the important announcement today about the future of the podcast, but I don't think we want to dive right into that. No, no. Like I said, we got some housekeeping. We got some stuff to...

So much housekeeping. Where do we start? We had Big Efren on last week, and he did a really good job sharing stuff on social media, made some cool posts, and he was excited about it. We were excited about it. And he was a really fun guest, too.

Yeah, that was a lot of fun. And one of the comments on his post, someone said, yeah, and for all you Efren fans out there, do yourself a favor and skip past the first 30 minutes. And I said yeah and if you're gonna do that you might also want to not pay attention to the last 30-ish minutes and then also don't listen to the first like 344 episodes before that either and also every like

five minutes after Efren's done talking you're gonna want to just plug your ears like you just only want an Efren monologue that's all we want that's we don't want him to acknowledge that he's talking to anyone right that's always such a funny thought to me we've gotten to have a lot of guests on the show over the years and the thought of like i refuse to listen to anyone but this guest i turn in to listen to on your podcast and i don't want to hear them even talk to anyone else i only want to hear them talk like i don't want to hear them even talk to anyone else. I only want to hear them talk. I don't care what this interviewer does or doesn't have to offer. It does not matter to me.

Yeah. And I'm, I know I've come, I've bitched about that before. Well, it is funny though. Like to me, that is something that I get excited about when people that I follow or care enough about that,

I would go listen to them, whether it's on a different podcast or different YouTube channel. A lot of times to me, the exciting part is, Oh, they're in someone else's channel. So you're going to get them at a different angle. Like that's the exciting part is they're with a different person. Yeah. But to a lot of people, I guess they just want the same track every single time.

Like the interviewer does not matter one bit. Right. That's the case. So we do have the big news today. But before we get to that that we're going to run down some other things and um we did something kind of cool this week too we got a had a cool little experience but before that actually how some weather we've been having still still the weather i tried to use my grill today and boy i was not prepared for the like inch and a half of

ice that was still on it get it open because the damn thing is not warmed up yet so um first of all i couldn't turn any of the dials because they're all frozen so what i did is i took one of the grill utensils and just started banging away and eventually these huge blocks of ice come off of it and i think i got the problem solved but no the dials are frozen so then you got to bang away in the dials and the whole time you're thinking am i cracking and breaking all the stuff that's on here luckily i was able to get the gas loose get a dial going and once that heat starts going it does the work does the work so you don't have to yeah uh but yeah the weather does still suck though yeah and for anyone that's also an additional update i have had wings multiple times again since the last okay i was gonna ask you said you had uh circus wings i did what flavor did you go with medium ah you gotta do the double dip the only

reason i didn't have that i would i do want to get that and i would have it's just we were ordering it they're ordering it in at work oh so someone was good and i don't i just like to be to be the difficult one yeah like kind of annoying like because some of the people are super difficult with their orders and i'm like um just let's keep it simple like here's someone yeah and so that's that's why i yeah that's the only reason i'll give you a pass i actually thought about it i wanted to yeah i was thinking and i'm like i don't want to explain i don't want to because then the person writing down the order will write like double dipped and then you'll say buffalo and barbecue. I think Tanner's getting a double order.

One order of Buffalo and one barbecue. And then they show up and you're like, yeah, that's not what I got. But yeah, you probably did the right thing there. Still riding high on the flats too. Over the drumsticks. I've never heard them called that. I'm sure they are. I mean, you said flats.

I'm thinking like, oh, did you buy a case of pounders or something? I think flats is, I did pick up several people unless they're all just reciting what I say, but several people in the discord this week, we're calling them flats too, unless they're just, and maybe I made that up. Oh yeah.

Cause Joey wants to know what is it that you call them? I call them. That's isn't that the wing? Yeah. I think that is like the technical, like the literal to me, one's a wing and one's a drummy. Right.

But the, but yet they're all wings. Oh, well, you order wings. Yeah, I know. I know.

And maybe I'm totally wrong. No, I think that, I think, uh, I would agree with you that the flat is actually like the, the wing, but yeah.

Yeah. Always has been. Flats and drummers. The two words that make a wing flats. Yeah. I guess I don't get out enough. Wings was a good TV show. That's debatable.

I'm not even sure I know what that is. Oh yeah. Have you never heard of wings? I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe it's a Navy thing or something or a air force thing. Uh, I think it,

I, I think it was like a small commercial airport in some like northeast town aired in maybe the late 80s early 90s that's my swag on what wings actually was my guess would be like a air force show of like oh here's all these wacky people in the air man tuck it so i was pretty close as on uh a small northeast town right oh Oh yeah. Yeah. I believe so. Yeah.

Okay. So that's wings. I don't think a good, maybe, maybe a good show. Maybe it's underrated actually. Maybe it falls into underrated territory. Probably not being that.

I don't think I've ever heard. I feel like I got decent TV shows down. Okay. And I've never heard of that. Yeah. I've seen it. I have seen a few episodes of it, but it doesn't come highly

recommended to me uh i haven't watched as of late but what we did get to do this week was we massonomics class was in was in session wasn't it and the students were riveted yes they uh they said it was the most valuable class they've ever had in their entire educational history. K through whatever grade they were in college. Yeah. So what we did is we presented to a college class via Zoom meeting. They're out of a college in Florida.

And it was a specific podcasting class. I couldn't believe that a podcasting class, one, they have a podcasting class and that that was a considered a general course yeah that was a general class too so this was probably you know first second year students there in a general course that they were able to take as an elective obviously and uh we talked to them definitely something that did not exist as a class option when we were in school um no. Right up there with social media marketing as an option, right? Yeah. And what else didn't exist yet that we could have had classes about? Cryptocurrency best practices.

Yes. That's funny, though. So I was a finance major. Yep. It wouldn't be weird. It'd be almost weird if there wasn't classes specifically about cryptocurrency at least part of it didn't discuss it right like yeah for sure and how it's a scary place to have your money right now yeah for a cryptocurrency class the

professor would get up there and be like i don't completely you know it's like i don't know i don't know what to tell you this class is going to be a lot of metaphors that kind of pertain to what we're talking about so just bear with me here yeah uh and we uh it was a lot of q a for our presentation with them i think we did i mean would you say it was all q a basically uh yeah yeah yeah being they told us to not prepare anything right right so it kind of has to be q and a we came pretty prepared not prepared so you are speaking our language yeah and uh we talked for probably like 45 minutes i think something like that wasn't it yeah around there yeah and there was some good questions from the group uh-huh i think there was some not good questions yeah yeah yeah no it was i mean we didn't have high i mean we weren't expecting like really hard-hitting questions

here they were all appropriate they They were all good. Some, I think one of the better questions we've ever got, someone said, asked what was our proudest part of building the podcast? Yeah. Our thing we're most proud of. That's actually a pretty good question. Yeah. What was the answer?

We said the community. We built the discord. Yeah. Props to the discord crew. They are what we're most proud of right here. Look at them. Referring to the discord crew live listeners right now um big alex asked if they wanted to if they asked us over under questions and that would have been hilarious they didn't they had over i don't think anyone to be fair knowing the class uh outside of the professor was familiar

with uh math sonomics before that so maybe one or two of them are familiar now big tracy the professor hooked it up for us and uh i said let let us know we'll be an at we'll be a resource for you in the future if we can ever uh we can ever participate industry insiders over here yep yeah i do think the you know say if there is varying levels of podcasting classes you know as a general yeah active in your first year like to be fair like every general class i was in oh a hundred percent i was checked out all as much as possible i mean yeah they were when i think of the general classes i had it they did an amazing job yeah i think it's like some of those i'm like i don't even know if people knew what

class they were in you know right and some people far worse than other like some of those, I'm like, I don't even know if people knew what class they were in, you know? Right. And some people far worse than other, like some people are crazy. How little, like when I got to college, I was like, Oh, you can like, like participate that little,

don't have to come. And if you do come, you don't actually have to mentally be here either. Yes. You only physically have to be here. I interesting though. Like when I first went to college, I still, I don't really remember

people being on their phones well but i don't think they i mean you're talking 2000 that's what i mean like i don't think people would get on their phones um no i i remember well i mean nobody had smartphones yeah that was the thing that was that was not smart i remember one of my instructors had the like first iphone 3 because at the time, the first iPhone was only AT&T, which didn't exist much in this part of the country, like AT&T. And I remember seeing that and being like, damn, that's crazy. I didn't know people actually had those things. That was my thought process.

There wasn't a ton you could do with them right off the bat. But yeah, I would imagine that's not how it goes now. Big Matt brought up people bringing laptops to class. People were bringing laptops to class. Yeah. I never did that. Yeah, the closest you got then was people on their laptops just on Facebook or playing like dumb online games.

Dude, you're really clicking and clacking a lot over there for like what we're talking about right now. Like I suspect you're doing something else. Yeah. Like damn, you're just hammering away at the keyboard and like we're not nobody's talking about anything noteworthy at this point so that was a fun experience though i think uh being mass dynamics teachers for a day

yeah and i i i did enjoy it it was a good time it was fun and i actually get to go talk to a local high school class yep uh in a day or two now you have your canned speech yeah i get to go talk to a local high school class in a day or two. Now you have your canned speech. Yeah. I get to go talk to him about being creative and some of the stuff I do. So we'll see, we'll see what gets addressed there, but so we'll have, we'll have more followup next week with Tommy presenting to high school kids.

So at like 30 or 40 minutes into the presentation, we said, all right, enough chit chat. We're going to dive right into this thing. Then that's your first lesson in podcasting that one's free there's a few there's a few catch phrases you're gonna want to hang on to you're gonna are you guys familiar with the phrase you can't ride the line back get get about 10 catch phrases and go to them anytime you don't know what else to say. Do not deviate away.

And get in an order. It's a rhythm and an order. You can fill like two and a half hours just with a similar order of events. On the topic of riding the line, I was going through Instagram the other day and a person I follow in the music space had a segment where it was just like cycling through people and it shows someone on the screen. You have to say if they were underrated or overrated, but he also played it where you could say appropriately rated.

And after watching them, like that actually ruins the segment because you can just appropriately, and it's just done there. There's nothing else to say. Right. You know, and no Ryan lighting is a key. Yeah.

And I think of the five people he said three of them were appropriately rated and that makes that not fun at all like because you can't ever you can't take a side now right so that's that and like everything in life you have to take a hard line stance there was never ever line riding in life no middle ground no what do you got a can over there or something i do all right let's crack into it and this is 99 sure a what's in the can oh well i better do what needs to be done and that has dawned my for those of you just listening and not watching i'm donning my protective eyewear so i can't see and i can't cheat tanner's completely blindfolded okay we've got a can i have also now to make it more intense i have put earplugs in his ears i have plugged his nose and i've spun

him around so his senses are we actually brought in a deprivation chamber into the studio just to be able this is the only his tanner is in a deprivation chamber and the only thing in there with him is this can it's got a smell we need it to be as neutral of a playing field as possible well that's gonna be difficult for me to peg I can already tell you

I'm trying to actually see if I even remember what the hell this was okay I don't think I would guess this i have to say i don't think i know i wouldn't guess this i know this is a hard i'm not some i've been do i've i feel like i've done pretty well as of late on these i haven't had one a real real stumper and this is one of those ones that's super hard to peg let me try one more time i'm i'm gonna have to formulate a guess here, and it's going to be embarrassing of how far off it's going to be on this one.

Yeah, that's really tough. It's sweet, but I'm also getting like a little bit of the flowery taste on this one, but a little bit of the fruity taste and the flowery. The fruity taste I'm flowery i the fruity taste i'm leaning most towards the strawberry not super confident in that okay but i i still think there's flowery something to it so you know i'll say uh strawberry lilac sparkling water okay actually made up word take a look here you're actually very very very close it doesn't look close by the color oh there's the strawberry strawberry mango and i think the mango does have

that weird fruitiness to it that mango is like in like would be very very hard and i'm not a mango guy but i don't mind this this is pretty tasty the strawberry catches me at the end of each drink i don't know this is the strawberry at first i know notice the strawberry at the end of each i was kind of shocked you got strawberry there because i was drinking this thinking i'm not sure i would guess that if i didn't know it it's weird it is it is sweet ish flavor oh. Oh, brand. Yeah, brand. This is the Target Good & Gather Strawberry Mango. Unsweetened.

For Strawberry Mango, it really has more of a, I don't know, like a florally taste than I would picture at Strawberry Mango. That's hard for me because mango is such a weird flavor. Then I would picture at strawberry mango. That's hard for me because mango is such a weird flavor. Mango always just has like a dirty fruit taste to me. I don't know why. Yeah. It was funny when I bought these, though, because there was an older couple there. They were probably in their 60s.

And this is at Target. You know, they have a fairly decent selection. But we're at the point where we've had so many of these damn things that the, for the most part, the only ones at a store I haven't had are flavors I don't actually want. Like things with coconut and things like that. Yeah. I usually don't want to buy them because I know we're going to have it once on here and then I'll have 10 cans forever that will sit in the fridge.

So I typically stay away from some of those. Maybe that's the wrong approach. But so you're like looking hard, trying to decide what you have and haven't had. And this older guy's like, this stuff's just great, isn't it? I'm already laughing because this is the first time anyone's ever made a mention of anything

sparkling water in a store before. I'm like, yeah, I think I've had all of them. They're just, they're tough to beat. He goes, well, you got to try them to know what you're into. You just get a different one every time. I'm like, exactly, you do. You got to see what you're into you just get a different one every time like exactly you do you gotta see what you like you're like have you heard of the mass and he's like oh soda is just so sweet you know this people think this doesn't taste good

but they're crazy it's so much better than pop i said man you're like do you know me we just get each other yeah and then he grabbed two cases of whatever and took off. What do you give this out of the, out of five JD power and associates awards? Half points are available. If we could do quarter points, I would say this is a 3.75, but we can't do quarter points. Cause I'd be riding the line there.

I'm really, I don't think this is quite four, but I do. I do feel like I like it a little more than some of the three and a halves I've given, but I'm going to stick with three and a half because I don't care for mango that much than some of the three and a halves I've given, but I'm going to stick with three and a half because I don't care for mango that much. It's a three and a half to me.

When you said quarter points, I could almost go three and a quarter on this one, but with the sake of no Ryan lighting, outside of our half points that we allow, that's not Ryan. This one is so much better to me than ugly birthday cake, but I think I gave that a three, so we're okay there 3.5

repeating of course naturally let's just assume that the five is repeating the repeating okay um delicious for the sake of just mixing up order a little bit how about a little supporting our supporting members yeah exactly when we support our supporting members but just for the sake of mixing it up a little bit so supporting our supporting members this is a segment we have every week on the massonomics podcast it's a relatively new segment but growing and we give back a little bit to those people that choose to support the podcast you can support the podcast also we have four different supporting level options that you can check out on our website. Or what is the direct link if you just want to go right to it?

Massanomics.com slash join. Yeah, and if maybe you can't afford lift shorts or you don't want a closet full of RTs, which that would be insane to me, but just if you don't, but you still want to support, a great option would be becoming a supporting member of the show. And we give back to those people a little bit every week in terms of they get to watch live through the Discord like they're doing now when we record this. They also get early information on drops and a discount code that they can use when you first sign up. And they also get to know early that there was big news coming for this episode this week

they don't know what the news is yet but they got to stew about what the big news big exciting news about the future of the podcast could be so that's some of what you could get by becoming a supporting member so supporting our supporting members big ian you might remember big Big Ian famously getting the first ever Mastodonics tattoo. He got the lift tattoo on his thigh right where the lift logo would be on a pair of lift shorts. Classic move. One of my favorite. That might be what I'm most proud of that come out of Mastodonics. Someone got a lift tattoo on their thigh.

It's in the Hall of Fame for sure. That's in the Hall of Fame. Mastodonics moves. Absolutely. Big Ian hit a 20 pound squat pr and he attributes that in no small part to his lift tattoo so congratulations big ian and also just continued congratulations on having that yeah just keep doing that man yeah big murloc jones competed in his first strongman competition. He took three second-place event finishes, two fourths, and a fifth overall in the open category in his first-ever competition against the Big Dogs.

So well done, Big Murlock Jones. Good stuff. Next is Big Zach. Big Zach started a powerlifting team at his school. Damn, that's taking the bull by the horns. He literally took the bull by the horns. That's being the change you want to see in life. Yes, yes.

So he's changing the powerlifting world one lift at a time by creating this team at his school. That's pretty cool, isn't it? That is. That's really cool. And then the garage gym competition was going on right now, and one of the flagship sponsors, Juggernaut AI. We'll hear more about them in just a little bit.

And we kind of consider ourselves a flagship sponsor. I think it's Massanomics and then Juggernaut AI. They don't write it that way, but that's how we kind of think about it. We kind of feel like we're the flagship sponsor of everything. I mean, we practically are like putting on the event basically. Right. We do most of the legwork and, you know, we had... The guy that actually does the legwork.

So by default. By association, it means you kind of do the work, I guess and chad was here and we you know told him hey you should be a sponsor of uh yeah it was all of us yeah so uh but we did have several crew members uh that have started competing in that i'm not sure if i caught everyone that's updated us on this if i missed someone you let me know and we'll talk about them too but big ryan was in the garage gym competition he had a 421 squat 230 bench 430 deadlift for a 1081 total nice then big austin mr breaking parallel hit a 380 squat 225 bench 405 deadlift for a 1010 total there we go not to be outdone big rich competed he did a 440 squat 265 bench and a 495 deadlift pr five wheels on the deadlift always

for a 1200 total breaking the 1200 mark there we go and then big andrew also threw his head in the ring here he did 395 squat 245 bench a 425 deadlift for a 1065 total. Knocking it out. No, well done, crew. That's some pretty good representation in the... Absolutely. No, in that event that we came up with. For us putting that on, yeah. I'd just like to pat ourselves on the back. That's good. People should, yeah.

That is a good thing. I like how I'm saying people should do it, and I'm not doing it, but it's a good... I think it's a cool idea. I like it. If you're not going to do a meet it's another little thing to put on the calendar to get you to something to train for absolutely couldn't agree more um what uh speaking of juggernaut ai is in in the state in the spirit

of uh switching up the order of things a little bit juggernaut ai um we tommy and i both have been running juggernaut ai for our programming for many many months now i am just in the start of a hypertrophy block i mean you are done with your bridge block officially with my bridge block onto hypertrophy and uh i'm excited to be do you feel like you're bridged out to the max i feel like i bridged it uh it was maybe uh if i had to do another week it would almost be what they would call a bridge too far doesn't say that in the program yeah it's like six weeks seventh week a bridge too far there's week seven in parentheses behind it that's what it says yeah

so i'm on hypertrophy block and um continue to use it uh love it uh see multiple people at the gym making progress ryan at flying ryan actually came back and hit that 315 pr he did did go off program to do it so we'll see what chad says about that right it might mess up his next six months of programming actually yeah but what i like about juggernaut ai is uh how it's become very adapted to me over time, adapted to a frequency, and hitting lifts for my weak points, helping me get stronger as I continue to progress with it. And then I like the phase, basic structure of it, like I was talking about the bridge block hypertrophy,

then I'll go into strength, then peaking, of course, after that. And I don't know, it just works. it just works it does was in the pudding right i i love it it's uh it sounds cliche i have a hard time saying these things because i always think everything sounds cliche and i'm just saying the same thing everyone else says but it really has changed my outlook on training and as dumb as it sounds it almost feels like it's giving me a new purpose in the gym because man there just came a point where after running so many templates it just kind of felt like what am i i don't know it just wasn't inspiring me anymore and whether it's having this dumb little

thing in my phone telling me what to do if that's what it took for me to be inspired i guess that's what it was a little chad wesley smith right in your pocket but it's working for me man it's going good and i'm i go into the gym every day very very excited for that workout and i love seeing the progress it's all right there i'm starting my bridge block now i you know i was on vacation so i'm a little sore coming back into it not as bad i i went a little easy in the beginning um so i'm not feeling terrible but i'll get back after it tomorrow here so and uh the best part about Juggernaut AI is our discount code. Go to juggernautai.app. It's almost better than the app even.

It's better than the app. We kind of created the app also. It's much like the Garage Gym competition. We're also mostly responsible for this. Right, right. So make sure when you sign up, sign up through the website. It's juggernautai.app, and that's where you can use the discount code MASSANOMICS, and it'll save you 10% for the lifetime of the membership.

The lifetime, because you will have this 10% for the lifetime of the membership. The lifetime because you will have this forever. For the rest of your life. So just assume that this will be the most longest running bill in your entire life. Yeah. And should we hit them with one more? One more? Oh that was an ad. I thought that was just an organic

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Yeah. So I just come out and say it. Well, yeah, I think we should, we should, we should let them know. Okay.

So this is not easy for me to say Tanner, the, uh, mass economics podcast, as we know it will no longer exist. And, uh, you gotta let me, as we know it, will no longer exist. And you got to let me. As we know it. As we know, I have to finish my statement here.

I have an overly dramatic pause. And I may have actually kicked the Discord off there. Right after that statement. As we know it today. Let me start that over now that the discord has been booted. The Massanomics podcast, as we know it, will no longer exist. It will change. And that is because my family and I will be moving away from Western Northeast South Dakota.

Yeah. And you say, well, where the hell are you going? Not too far away. We're actually going to Eastern Southeast South Dakota. So it's not too far. It's like, you know you know your directions of the compass you can figure out about how far that away it's down the road we we will be moving um so yeah we're actually we're moving to sioux falls uh it it's uh for people actually i got maybe i should back this up because the majority of people are not from our part of right right it's not uh should i bring them back in here not uh i've been as we're talking i'm monitoring their uh there's a lot

of activity going on in the discord with that cut off uh yeah uh uh we could bring them back or i don't know or they just don't they we leave them in limbo for like four or five days here i almost feel bad okay we'll bring them back on. We got our little prank over with. But yeah, the Mass Comics podcast is not going to cease to exist. There will be no break in activity, actually. It'll just be a little bit different. Are they back with us now?

Okay, we're back okay we're back we're back so so yes so uh i think the discord so yep that that that wraps up our announcement discord thanks for uh so we hope uh that you guys all heard that entire thing and nothing cut out yeah didn't miss any of the important details there uh no we'll back this up again so the statement was the massomics podcast as we know will no longer exist the reasoning is because my family and i are moving to sioux falls south dakota which means in-person podcasts are going to be very few and far between we're still going to keep doing it yeah we have no plans of changing the podcast there'll be no there'll be no podcast interruption there will be no podcast interruption that's uh logistically it's just going to look a little

bit different for us on our end uh i think as we get it fine-tuned you won't feel like there is much of a difference especially especially even if you're a video what so we're working on the audio visual uh well the audio part is super easy. And a lot of people might not realize this. Well, I think we probably mentioned it in the podcast. But if you listen to older episodes, when COVID first hit, I think there was 10 to 20 episodes where we did them all remotely. Right.

I don't think that really affected the quality much. And that was on kind of some band-aided equipment. Yes, yes. That was us kind of some band-aided equipment. Yes, yes. That was like us not having anything. Yeah, we're going to pull out all the stops with this since it'll be more of a permanent solution. But I mean, I suppose at times we'll have in-person ones because it's not like we're on the other sides of the world

or anything like that. Okay, so yeah, I'm moving to Sioux Falls. Sioux Falls is three hours from Aberdeen. My wife is from Aberdeen. Her parents still live live here i'll be coming back to aberdeen it's not like i uh it's not like i have no ties to the city right um i don't think it's unreasonable to think i'll be back a fair amount even yeah but um yeah the biggest change for massonomics itself will be no more in-person podcasts no more regular in-person podcasts right the regular format will be virtual but i think um

with what we're working on even if you're a watcher on youtube because if you don't know if all if you've all just been listening for a while we publish every episode on youtube also a decent video presentation i think even that might get improved possibly yeah and i don't think even if you're a watcher you won't really it won't feel altogether different from you. Once we have that fine tuned either, it'll, the presentation will actually feel pretty similar. I think so. Cause there is some really cool stuff out there,

right? We're getting a list of things put together for what we need to do. And it looks like there's some pretty cool options for how we can, how we can do this video thing going forward. Yeah. And something that will eventually will will feel a little bit different at some point in time is uh the way that we interview people because we won't be sitting in the same room at the same point in time so

there may be we may even for a short period of time pause the interview portion of the show as we just fine-tune what we're doing yeah getting used to you know so there may be a few episodes there where if if for those of you that enjoy more of our so you know just us shooting the stuff that we shoot um you might even actually like it better for a while there i was we're we're getting that uh all the kinks worked out for that and when i think about like there is some like there definitely you you do lose something about being in in the same room with someone. But there is also some really cool things we can do between, you know, both being at a computer.

There's different things we can send us each other. There's different things we can be involved with. They're not being around. We can send each other packages and take a whole nother level to the what's in the can and all that. So I think there's some it'll be different for sure. I don't think you could say it's going to be worse or better it just will be different and i think it's going to be really fun because some of our south dakota representatives living listening live someone mentioned uh meet up in between and

big nathan from watertown says yes watertown that's where he's like and then big mo is excited uh you're coming to southeast south dakota where he's at. So yeah, there, there is time. We have, we do have a fair number of discord supporters down in Sioux Falls. That's true. Someone did mention a big, he said, so no 2023 meet. That's not for sure. It has not been decided either.

We do recognize the fact that let's say that let's to put out a deadline to hold ourselves accountable. Like what about like by the end of november we know the answer to whether there's yeah because we said we would not confidently yeah like we we if we do the meet it's not going to be until like mid-june would be the absolute earliest right it'd probably even be in july possibly it'd be like mid-june through july yeah um so i mean at that point we're still giving you like seven to eight months of heads up. Yeah. Which hopefully that's enough.

We would do it in western, northeast South Dakota. You know, that wouldn't change. Quite honestly, you moving doesn't limit us from being able to do that. Like, you know, there's no reason. That won't be the deciding factor of if the 2023 massonomics powerlifting meet happens or not honestly like it's just us committing to making it happen and making it special in the way that we would want to make it special yeah and we were just talking about this on the phone the other day yeah we got to make up our mind here and it's actually i think

on my to-do list for yeah tomorrow friday like call tanner again yeah get this figured out so i admittedly am dragging my feet on it just because i don't know exactly what you know it's one of those things where i'm like i i can i can waffle on that one you know and it's just i mean it is a lot of work yes right with everything else we got going on with everything going on um but the fun the reward of the fun is tempting though still absolutely so there was a lot of speculation of what the special what the big announcement was but uh people asked if i'm going back to a ymca oh yeah uh no ymca at this time there are multiple gym options in sioux falls uh i have not decided for sure which one I'm going to

I haven't been to an actual like real commercial gym in what six years now seven years right I mean that might just totally change my whole life outlook on fitness again all of a sudden so I don't know I don't get a chance to actually see massanomics shirts in the wild in the wild or

just see the dumbass stuff that people do at an actual gym again I'm not sure part of me like wants to like see that because I've been so shielded from it i forget it exists but uh i don't know there's a ton of options i'll get that part figured out when the time comes and otherwise massonomics as a business we talked about it 90 of what we do on the business side of things happens during phone calls during the day right so that changes nothing there it's just product photos instead of us taking them the day before we do a drop we'll just be a little more organized and either do them when i come to town or mail

stuff and shoot it at different times maybe get some different models yeah set up it changes our processes a little bit on how we do stuff but i think uh for the the listener the fan and stuff like that i don't think it'll feel like I really don't know if anything will seem that much different in the long run. I don't think so. And if you don't watch the video, it might actually be nothing different on the podcast. Like, right. That's yeah. Yeah.

We're talking everything we're talking about that we don't know how to do. It's just the video with all this stuff. It's right. The audio part. There is nothing to figure out. That part is so simple part of it's uh something part of it here is actually specific to the guys listening right now uh on the live stream our supporting members we plan to have the live stream continue but the we just we don't it's potential that some of the format of that could change a little bit. We just have so many weird things going on between recording and live

streaming and how that all comes together at the end. And then also recording to a different soundboard too. There's a lot of, I think it's safe to say, well, the, the live stream will, we'll continue it.

It just, maybe it's different in some way. We don't know exactly yet what we don't have. Every one of the kinks worked out yet, but we're going to. Yeah. I think it's not that I know what I'm talking about to be fair, but yeah,

we'll get it figured out. It'll be, I mean, it'll still be good. People will be involved. There'll be a discord. Uh, $6 a month.

See Tommy remotely. Well, well, technically, technically you're seeing both of us. The only person that does it, that, uh, that this really changes. Well, let's now sees you remotely of us remotely right now. The only person that this really changes, that now sees you remotely that didn't used to is me.

But Tanner, on the bright side, I guess, is recording live from the Mastanomics warehouse. That's true. So that could be pretty exciting for people. Yeah, the way that the camera will be set up there is it will be recorded from the mass economics fulfillment center so it'll be a little bit more of a peek behind the curtain there yeah that could be pretty exciting for people yeah i'm already have i like to call it the mass economics fulfillment center that is better better way to say it sounds really fancy i already thinking about like oh what do i get to do for my backdrop now you know there's a whole

new and this sign you'll have to take the sign this will go somewhere to the gym probably won't it or your house actually the gym probably your bedroom with your wife like in the bedroom like just glowing and be like no we're not shutting that off sorry honey yeah the mesonomic sign stays on all the time yeah it could maybe go in the fulfillment center the problem with the fulfillment center is literally wall to wall covered right it just doesn't make a ton of sense in there yeah because it would be behind a shirt but it's the thought that counts yeah we'll figure that out so stay tuned on that and also when it wasn't happening it's not happening next week but it is happening next month right right um we'll have like this setup as we know it has probably four ish episodes left right yeah it's not a ton of

time but i don't have time to process what's going on yeah we'll uh we'll do we'll maybe well maybe it's will it be it might be 350 the last one in here could be 350 if possibly what is it right now 346 i think it would be because i think there is actually four left yeah because that would be with us doing one extra one because we talked about building a buffer in there. Okay. So it would be 350. Episode 350.

What do we do? We're splitting up the podcast. Surprise. Just like everyone wanted. Yeah. Should we say goodbye to the Discord and get a co-op? Yeah. Bye, Discord.

There'll be more news on all of that. Someone asked if now we get two billboards, one in North and South Dakota. I bet Sioux Falls billboards are way more expensive. Yeah. Well, there's way more of them, though, so maybe we can find a really seedy part of town. Supply and demand. Yep, of course. All right. See you, Discord. All right. Time for

Big Co. See if we can get him on the horn. Maybe. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Tanner. Big Co, is that you? It is me. What's up, man?

What's happening? You're live on the Mastodonomics podcast with Tanner and Tommy. What's up, Co? Hey, what's up, Tommy? How's it going? Good. How are you? Yeah, I'm just living out one of my dreams right now, you know?

So you've been on the podcast a little bit before, but today you're the featured guest on the Mastodonics podcast. Yeah, man. That was the call-in special. What is that, like May or June? What was that? Was that a special number for us? Why were we doing that?

I think we were just kind of doing it. I think it was like put your telephone number on the Instagram. Oh, okay. So we're going to do it. I think you were probably kind of doing it. Put your telephone number on the Instagram. Oh, okay. I think you were probably in training camp at the time, right? No, dude, because I remember I think it was like OTAs or something, maybe

mini camp. It's like the camp before camp. Okay. But I do remember that because I was still in the hotel that they put me up in. And now look at us. Bye week just came off a big win. I think number one in the division right now, right?

Yeah, number one in the division is all you can really hope for. Hopefully we continue that, continue the kind of good streak that we're on right now. Awesome. continue that continue the kind of good streak that we're on right now but yeah awesome so for anyone that doesn't know who big co is uh big co has been uh following along with us at massonomics for for a faithful follower yeah for a faithful follower for quite a few years here been uh got your first first lift shirt many years ago which that's always a big step and um big co you know 2017 maybe yeah yeah 2017 so were you in high school when you got that first one many years ago, which that's always a big step. And Big Co. 2017, maybe.

Yeah, 2017. So were you in high school when you got that first one? I was in college. College, okay. I think I was a freshman in Minnesota. Yeah, and Big Co., you're from, what would you describe your location in Iowa with directions of the compass? Oh, central

northwest Iowa. Right in the middle of it. It doesn't sound quite as good when the state doesn't have also a direction in it too. If there's a western and eastern Iowa. South Dakota has south in it already.

It doesn't quite roll off the tongue as nicely. Then you went and played football for the Gophers at the U of M in Minnesota. And then about the time we talked to you last, you had gotten drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and now here you are several weeks into your first season.

Yeah, man, it's been crazy, actually, just that you said that, just to kind of think about the last couple of months. The last year's really been crazy for you, hasn't it? It had to have been. Did you see yourself here a year ago? Was that just a so-far crazy thing, or did you actually see that being a thing? I mean, like, so kind of like the start of last season um we played ohio state that first week and uh did pretty well and i had some

agents like talk to me and stuff but i was kind of like uh like might get an agent might get like be undrafted get like a minicamp tryout or something like i figured i'd get like a shot i really didn't figure i'd be um have as large of a role as i do currently this year but uh it's been awesome man yeah it's really been fun to watch too and uh going through uh you know you getting drafted that was super cool uh then uh you, uh, you know, we were, as we were watching, following along through, uh, me, like me and my son were checking every day, like Googling your name and see what the news is the latest while you're going through training camp and stuff like, uh, just like keeping our fingers crossed that you're for sure going to

be the team. And then it became pretty apparent, like based on what we were reading and stuff that like, yep, he he's got probably got a spot and then you get it you get on and you've gotten like a pretty sweet amount of playing time you've gotten to catch uh uh a few balls and stuff it's been yeah it's been super cool to watch catching passes from tom brady like what the hell like that's insane right like what does that yeah never in my life would i think that like could have would happen ever but here we are like when and i think i'm actually i think i'm uh my dad told me this today i think i'm like like in pro bowl voting really how do we vote not not

for not for tight end but but I think for special teams, for covering kicks and stuff, like punt, kickoff. That would be sick. Because I guess that's a thing now. So yeah, plug myself there for a second. How do people vote for that? I don't even know. I have no idea.

I think it's like the NFL tweeted out something about it. It's all on NFL.com or something. I'm not even sure. We'll figure it out and we'll put it in the description and we'll make sure everyone that's listening just spams as many votes as possible. Yeah, I'm looking at it.

Yeah, it's just like NFL.com something slash Pro Bowl game votes. Yeah. We'll start the campaign. That's hilarious. So what was the experience like?

You know, so we've Tommy and I have watched Hard Knocks several seasons of it and going through training camp and going through the final cuts and stuff. Is that what it feels like, what they show on TV? At what point in time did you know you were making the team? That's kind of the crazy part.

I actually haven't ever watched Hard Knocks, so I couldn't tell you how similar how I felt is to what they kind of show. They were at Tampa Bay, I think in 2019 or something. A couple of my teammates were talking about just like that experience but uh yeah they kind of said they blow things out of report i mean it's tv right so they blow they kind of blow up the stuff that needs to be blown up to get you know watchers and stuff but uh basically training camp goes you have about two weeks where it's uh just like you um there's 90 guys that get invited to training camp and they whittle

that down to obviously the 53 man roster and then 16 practice squads so they cut about truly cut about you know like 20 some guys but uh you have two weeks where it's just like one-on-one twos on twos kind of that thing in practice and then the preseason game starts which is kind of the crazy part so for me i was running kind of with the second offense um and second team special teams so i would get you know like a decent amount of reps in practice not none but not like a lion's share and so you kind of have like three days so with the dolphins we had two days of joint practice a day off and then we played them in a pre-season game in tampa and so it's like uh from like a practice standpoint those two practices are pretty

much like when they're against the other team, it's pretty much like a game, like just because of how competitive it is. And everyone knows like they got jobs online and stuff. So then you kind of go through that. You do, we went to the Titans and kind of did the same thing with them for the second preseason game.

And then we ended up playing the Colts for the third one. And, you know, cuts are kind of progressively made after each one of those games. and then we ended up playing the Colts for the third one. And, you know, cuts are kind of progressively made after each one of those games. And so I think it's five after the first one and five after the second one. And then after that third one is kind of the big one. And so after that third one, like, I wasn't quite sure if I would be on the team or not.

Like, sitting at the fourth tight end, I'm not sure if I'd contribute on special teams quite yet or not. And, uh, you're literally sitting in the locker room on that third day, watching this, uh, admin guy,

like walk up to guys, say, Hey, we need your laptop. Um, like the GM director of player personnel wants to talk to you and you're just like sitting there sweating bullets for a day god yeah and then that was the thing too is like no one even told me that i made it like okay it's just like no like the no

news is good news type of thing so i was just like literally like you just sat there long enough and at a certain point like after like 4pm or whatever it was you're like well I think it's done like I saw on Twitter that they're like yep final cuts are done and I was like no shit I made it so that was what it was like that's crazy

yeah no it's yeah it's nuts so where were you actually sitting like where was everyone hanging out like what are you doing when you're all just like wait like especially anyone that's nuts. So where were you actually sitting? Like, where was everyone hanging out? Like, what are you doing when you're all just like, wait, like,

especially anyone that's on the bubble. Like, what are you at? What are you just like sitting there just waiting or what? So it's like the next day kind of just like continues as far as the football schedule. It's like we have meetings or lift and they could just like come in at any time.

Right. Like they kind of did a lot of them i think i remember they kind of did like a lot of them a lot of those cuts like when we had a little bit of downtime so like a bunch of dudes are just like sitting in the locker at their lockers and you're just like watching watching them you know kind of get fired it's it's it's crazy man and it's just it's people's jobs livelihoods right for the most part like they're trying to make a lot of these guys have families and stuff and i'm just you know right out of college single so it's like i don't have like a wife or daughter's children to

support and when you know those guys are getting cut like that it's just brutal to see but it's a part of the business Tommy and I talked about it especially like watching you go through the process and stuff like that some of the thing you know like maybe people that don't follow the NFL that closely or not into that sports they don't really realize this or maybe some people just don't think about it

but like the perception is like professional athlete you know they're getting paid millions of dollars and like you're on the team life's good yeah yeah like it's easy street and you know you're making 10 million dollars and stuff like this you know it's just kind of like this perception that's out there but like for most i i would say it's almost fair to say like most of the guys on a roster it's more so like you're battling for a job and praying you make it because it's like very famine or feast either you make it and you're getting the game checks or you don't make it and then it's like

well now what am i doing yeah it's it's 100 that and i know a bunch of guys that kind of like went through that um one that was with like that i went to college with that came up the same time I did um but then also like we had a you know a guy on the team that got cut like middle of the year just like out of nowhere just got waived like I forget when that was but it's just like it's like every practice every game like it's a job interview and if you're not like locked in and doing what you're supposed to be doing like you're you're gone and that's the crazy part too like not only that like if you're not on top of your game but just get hurt too right like you're protected kind of for like that year but then after that it's like you got to show that you can still play and just the whole cycle

repeats itself so we're kind of see and that's the other thing too is like um kind of talking about like yeah it's feast or famine because like you got to play in the games to get the checks be on the 53 man for the game to get that big check but then uh you know a lot of times like guys might play one year might play two years and that's that's it right right it's not like there's very far and few between guys that ever make it to the second contract which is kind of where you make that the larger sums of money or into their 40s yeah be 45 yeah hey tom he's already got like what what's that contract he's got with fox to be an analyst like 370 million something like he's he's good what's uh like now that you made

it made it uh made it this season and stuff what's the biggest stuff that people ask like does everyone want to ask you about tom brady Is that like the number one thing that you get asked about from random people? Yeah. I don't, I don't know. Like random people. It's like people in Tampa or more.

Like, I don't really like, I can be out in public and people won't know who I am, which is nice. Some people probably do though. Like there, you know, like if you're a hardcore fan,

you, you would know, you know, hardcore fan, you would know. They would recognize you, I would think. Yeah. I actually, I think last Wednesday, I was out with a teammate, and we were walking out, and somebody ran up to me, and they're like, you play for the Bucs? And I was like, yeah.

He's like, what's your name? I was like, Ko? He's like, I don't know who you are. He's like, I thought you, Ko? He's like, I don't know who you are. He's like, I thought you were Ryan. He's like, I thought you were Ryan Jensen. He's like our Pro Bowl center. He's just like this big ginger guy with long hair. And I was just like, do I look like an offensive lineman?

It just kind of hurt my feelings. And he just didn't even give a shit. And I was like wow thanks yeah it's a lot of people that once you're over like 250 pounds everyone just looks like he's just big yeah yeah take a shot in the dark yeah you play football yeah like well i did middle school yeah um man it so there is like uh like there's some like a lot of that stuff we talked about is like stressful stuff to think about but on the flip side of the coin i'm wondering what does it feel like you know when you play high school football you play college football like you're hanging with

your buddies and your dudes and it's fun uh you know obviously you take it serious and you're trying to get better you're trying to win games and stuff like that but there's so much that's just messing around yeah you're just like dudes being dudes is it like that in the NFL quite a bit too? I would say for the good teams or the teams with good people on them it kind of is like that

at the same time it's more business like just because you always have that constant threat kind of looming over you right um but at the end of the day when you're on the field um kind of perform your best you gotta treat it you know like that game that you just love to play otherwise like if you're not loving it um you're not going to want to do it and that just eventually kind of leaks into your play and people can kind of tell when that happens.

So I think just having that basic love for the, love for the game thing is important. But at the same time, like I wouldn't even tell you, like, if I would like, I don't, I don't watch football on my own time. Yeah. Like, maybe I'll watch a Minnesota game once in a while, but usually when I watch, they lose. So I try to not do that either anymore. But, like, even in college, it was like Sunday would come around and be like,

hey, you want to go, like, watch some games? I'm like, no, I'm just, like, would come around and be like hey you want to go like watch some games I'm like no I'm just like don't want to be around it's like that's work so it's like yeah it's like I don't know like a good analogy would be for it you know you're just like some business dude you know working

nine to five some extra numbers on the weekend you guys want to watch YouTube tutorials about Microsoft Excel? Like, no, I don't. That's the last thing I want to think about. No, that makes sense for sure. Was it a pretty sweet feeling, though,

getting the first game check, though? Was that like, yeah, that's sweet? It was. You know, it was kind of just like, and that was the thing with, like, college football that I kept telling myself, too, is, like, especially the position I play and kind of how I play the game, it induces kind of a lot of wear and tear. And so it's like working anymore it's like to beat yourself up and see that first game check you're like yeah it probably did worse

yeah you can throw more at me now yeah but yeah you can't complain about it, man, when you're getting paid this much. So I'm just kind of all about perspective. For sure. So what's the lifting facilities like? What I'm wondering is, like, at U of M or in comparison to Tampa, what it's like there, like, how are the team facilities, like the gyms? College facilities are so much better than NFL facilities. Like way better equipment, way better space. Better probably equipment, more space.

You name it. Just like style. Did you guys have like your own specific football area or was that shared with anyone else? We had, yeah yeah like an entire kind of football in weight room devoted to just football but then i think like two or three years ago there's like a title nine thing so then like the women's rowing team uses it like a couple times a week like at night when we're not in there okay okay but uh i would definitely the college ones. If you look at big... If you look at big college weight rooms,

anything in the Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, I guarantee you they're better than 90% of NFL facilities just because those colleges need them to be nice and as flashy as possible to get recruits to try to recruit, you know, more players. So what does like lifting look like in season in the NFL? Oh, pretty minimal, like two times a week, three, if you want to get one in on your own but uh it's basically like um try to maintain

kind of what you had coming into the season and also like not get you hurt because the last thing an nfl strength coach or anyone involved with the team or yourself wants to do is like injure yourself you know trying to squat more than 400 pounds and miss playing time and miss game checks because of that so you're not going to sign up for power lifting meet like next next week then you don't think no not until i'm done with football, that's for sure. You've only got to do something on your bye week, right? Yeah, that's what I would do. It was even dumb in college too. Every break we'd get breaks off.

We'd get three weeks in May, and then we'd get a week right before fall camp started, and three weeks in the winter too. But I wouldn't do it in the winter because we didn't obviously lift as much in season i would always me and my roommate in college would always max out our deadlift like a week before camp started and it was just like you guys probably shouldn't do that i just had to so what about your those couple times a week when you're hitting the gym now like are the strength coaches for the team, do they tell you exactly what to do or do they just give you some guidelines or do they let you run wild

or what is it like? I would say it probably depends a little bit. For the most part, they kind of individualize stuff for everyone. But I'd say for rookies, they kind of hold their hands a little bit more than, you know, say like a 10 year vet who kind of knows what he likes and what he wants to do. They'll kind of let those guys do what they need to do. But for us, they kind of just like have, you know,

print out a sheet or have it on team builder online for us, you know exactly what we've got to do. So yeah, you talked about the tenure, but if you're Mike Evans or I'm just picking someone that's better out, whatever, that's been there for a long time, that's very secure in his

position, stuff like that. If you don't want to go to the gym, do you have to go to the gym at all, ever? Are they like, nah, you need to be here? Or is it like, nah, screw you, dudes. I'll do what I want to. I think in season, we're in season. I think they have to. It's mandatory that you do it. The strength coaches say it, but

if you don't, I think you might get fine okay like i know that happens at other teams i'm not really sure like i think for the most part like guys are into lift if they're supposed to at least in season like in the off season it's pretty much like free game like you can kind of do what you got to do as long as you show up to camp you know and shape ready to play football right which is in your best interest anyways obviously yeah uh what about if you what about if you're tom brady do you like to do is it like do any of the other rules apply or is it pretty much like yeah it's just we're doing your thing yeah yeah i mean here on sunday i'm brady like i would say stuff, but I mean, it's Tom Brady. Like, what are you going to do?

Right. I don't think I've seen him in our weight room a single time. Right. But he also has his own, his whole business, TV 12. Right. Right. You know, so he's got, he's got his own like facility here in Tampa. Yeah.

Which I haven't been to, but it's really nice. Yeah. He's just the exception to every rule, I suppose. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's an anomaly. He shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Yeah. So you're on the bye week. You guys just got back from Germany.

What was it like playing there? Yeah, so flying out there, flying east that far sucked. We flew out there Thursday night, like overnight. So like try to sleep on the plane, that type of thing. I'm like this nine and a half hour flight. So that obviously doesn't go too well. And then right when we land land we pretty much like head to the hotel have meetings and then go to practice and thankfully it was like they took care of us

it wasn't like a hard one but it was sweet it was a kind of surreal experience it's my first time in But great food in Germany. Fantastic. Just like super fresh stuff. And then like even the fans at the game, like they were just, it was like the loudest environment I think I've played in. So yeah, did playing in front of a German fan base feel different than playing in America? Oh, it was electric. Because I think technically it was like a home game for us.

Both end zones were like Buccaneers, but obviously in Germany. They were just loud. If we were on offense or Seattle was on offense, they were just screaming. It was intense. man, it was crazy.

Yeah, that's cool. You brought up something there. We talked about kind of what the lifting's like, and you talked about the food being good there. It reminded me, I was curious, what about nutrition-wise? Like going through, you know, whether it's going through camp, going through in-season, stuff like that. Are you guys at all being monitored or told like what your diet nutrition stuff should

look like or is that a free-for-all um i would say kind of if you're not um along your body weight um it might like force you to do some stuff but for the most part it's kind of like uh if you want help and ask for help you'll get help in that regard, kind of with nutritionists and nutrition. But like if you're not making the right nutritional choices, you know, as a pro athlete, then probably won't be a pro athlete for very long. Unless you're just like a freak. Who is it? Like DK Matt Calf the Seahawks. He eats four bags of Skittles a day.

That's what I was going to say. If you're a Marshawn, all candy. You eat whatever you want, I guess, and you still truck 30 people. It's fine. That's what you've got to think about. All the guys you guys have on your podcast, whether it be the the strongmen or let's say like um what's that dude's name uh ph deadlift yeah ben pollock yeah yeah yeah you know you got you got these guys who are the top one percent of the one percent um in powerlifting or a strength sport and you know that's what you're dealing

with in the nfl is like you have the top one percent one percent of athletes so like a dude like mike evans yeah who probably would be in the nba or in the nfl or in some pro sport league if he just solely wanted to regardless of any other factors yeah you know it's like kind of what you're dealing with for the most part and then it's it's funny because then you mix in guys like me who just like had to just grind to kind of get to where they're at nutritionally weight room wise like that whole thing but funny meg yeah yeah it is it is interesting how many uh during a during a week in season how many beers could you get away drinking zero or is there time to drink a beer a brewski or two oh there's always time for a brewski um you, I think, yeah, we played in – our first game was in Dallas,

and we won. And then I think it was Mike Evans. I remember seeing you had like a Budweiser. Yeah, I think I sent you that snap. Yeah, it was like, yep, first win, first NFL win, first postgame beer. And my thinking was, I'm like, I was so curious. I'm like, where did the beer come from? And, like, are people just throwing it out?

Like, how does that work? Yeah, so, like, I don't even know how it, like, ends up showing up. There's just like a there's like a hole in the matrix where it's just like a beer can I don't even know but like you can buy chartered flights and stuff like

you can kind of get away with getting some stuff onto a plane if you wanted to so a lot of times it's like on the way home what's up like kirk cousins and like taylor heineke with the chains and stuff like you had a bush light like you're gonna look too far yeah uh those are the things i'd really like uh like uh being close up close and personal to see some of that stuff. That's the cool stuff, I think.

Oh, I mean, yeah, that's at the end of the day, too, is back to people asking me, what's Tom Brady like? What are all these guys like? They're just guys at the end of the day. It's like they're human beings that happen to have a job where they make a lot of money and get a lot of public notoriety. It's just like any group of people. Most people are pretty cool, and then in there, a few people are probably kind of our dicks,

and that's just like any group. That's the way life goes, man, yeah. 100%, without a doubt. Yeah, that makes sense. BigCo, I think you're kind of familiar with a little game we like to play called Overrated Underrated. Oh, yeah. And we came up with a very special co-key set of topics here.

Oh, geez, let's do it. We'll fire them off to you, and it's just your job to decide if each one's overrated or underrated. But you can't ride the line. You've got to decide on each one whether it's overrated or underrated, but you can't ride the line. You've got to decide on each one whether it's overrated or underrated. No explanation given or what? No, you get to explain as much as you want.

As much or as little as you want. You can go into each one for like 20 minutes and we'll just go along for the ride. Let's hear it. Overrated or underrated? Okoboji. Ooh. I think Okay. Let's hear it. All right. Overrated or underrated? Okoboji.

Ooh. I think, and I might catch some flack, I'm going to say overrated. So for anyone that doesn't know, you know, maybe some people aren't from the Midwest like us. Maybe they aren't familiar with Okoboji. Maybe explain it a little bit. Okoboji is this chain of three lakes um i would say in uh what what would i call that eastern eastern northwest iowa yeah that's pretty good eastern northwest iowa and uh they're pretty big lakes but i mean it's just packed like every inch of each of those lakes basically has a property on it and uh it's a lot of fun um i would say it was probably more

fun when i wasn't 21 yeah than now anymore but uh i would just say it's so busy every time you go there there's just so many people that's just like sometimes you want to you want to be in a lake and but, uh, I would just say it's so busy every time you go there. There's just so many people. That's just like, sometimes you want to, you want to be on a lake and just kind of like, you know, live slow, get away from all that.

But when there's just like that many people there, man, it's just like too much going on. So I'm going to have to say, I love it. Like I'm good for like a once a year Okoboji rip, but that's like it. It's like it it's like it's like the las vegas of northwest iowa i would say it's like the las vegas of lake life like you it's not like

you said where you go to a lake and you're gonna have some fun and relax and it's like no you go there at a party like that's the point of that place like yeah definitely 100 the heart of it and it's just like too much sometimes like like uh i don't actually the last time i was like really there for an extended period of time uh was a summer of 2019 and uh me and two of my roommates borrowed my parents camper and camped there in Okoboji seven days straight. And that was just, dude, I think I needed dialysis after that. Your parents were okay with you taking their camper to that? Yeah, God bless their soul.

We took good care of it. Honestly, the only thing we really used the camper for was sleeping. Yeah, just a crash. Oh, just a crash. Overrated. That's good. Okay, overrated or underrated? Kirk Cousins. Oh.

You know, I don't know the guy personally right and like i said earlier i don't really follow football that well he's having a great year um what do i see like there's always like is he good is he not is he good is he not so i'd say like what i kind of like is how he's kind of like, like they kind of play him off as kind of like, I don't know, like dorky or something, you know, just like kind of. Like the dorky kind of like every man guy. Right, right, right.

No, yeah, like he's probably an actuary. If he didn't play football, he'd be like an actuary for some insurance company. I'd say perfectly rated just because of that. Just exactly like the yin and the yang of Kirk Cousins. Yeah, that's good. In an alternate universe, would you have liked to have got drafted and got a shot up to play for the Vikings? Would it have been cool to stay in Minnesota?

I mean, yeah, I think it would have been cool. Yeah, either way, like you're playing in the NFL, right? Yeah, yes. Like a part of me loves Minnesota, and I think eventually someday, you know, I might live there. But I think it's been good to just get away because I've been there for, shoot, six years. So I think it was just good to just get away because I've been there for shoot six years.

So I think it was just good to get a change of pace, but love that place. So you're going to get a little different winter experience that we're headed into right now this year. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Um, 75 here today is like almost 80 and,

I'm going to fly into a high of like 19. So, uh, we're going to see, We're going to see how I handle it, see how much I miss it. It's been winter started. It took a while, but man, when it showed up, it showed up here. It does, man. Overrated or underrated?

Fullbacks. The fullback position. Okay. Overrated or underrated? Fullbacks. The fullback position. Um, no. I want to say underrated, but I kind of want to do

perfectly rated because they're kind of coming back now and, you know, everyone's kind of like fullback, fullback, fullback. So I think there's a good balance there. I'd say they're perfectly rated. Like you're you know you

I don't know what you guys what sets you guys run out of and stuff and I don't really know the lingo well that well anyways but you being a tight end you were getting like at least earlier on especially it seemed like a lot of your reps you were getting you were like coming out of the full back position and maybe like you guys didn't hold't hold a normal roster spot for a fullback,

but you were getting to do that. Yeah, that was kind of a big thing in me making the rosters, that I was kind of able to do that. Yeah, I mean, it's technically a roster spot, because I can play normal tight end and pullback. So, yeah, dude, at the end of the day, it's like they want me to do whatever. Like, if you're going to pay me, I'll do it. For sure.

Go line up at pullback and trap a shade. Like, okay, let's go. Yeah. And obviously you're an excellent blocker, and I think you're probably well-known for that. But that first catch you had was a sick catch, though, too. Oh, man. Literally, I was running that route and looked back,

and I was like, in my mind, I saw the ball and looked back and I was like, in my mind I saw the ball in the air. I was like, holy shit, you threw this ball. And to catch that back shoulder ball, that was definitely a cool first catch in the NFL. Wish we would have won that game. Could have had some plays in there to help us win that game too. But it was definitely a cool, surreal moment that I'll remember forever. Yeah, were you tempted to track down that ball and keep it like is that is that an option can anyone just keep any ball that they want to i think i think my agent was kind of like hey you

should like try to keep that ball but i was like ah whatever yeah maybe maybe i'll get a right definitely not in the moment like i was just like handed to the ref I was like okay what's the next play what's right now right but uh yeah I don't know I think uh hopefully you know we win a couple more games um win a super bowl I'd be like hey Tom man sign me sign a football for me here yeah yeah I'll buy a Tom Brady jersey and ask him to sign it for me. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. All right.

We did Kirk, fullbacks. Now this one's kind of worth all the marbles. We usually save the best one for last. So overrated or underrated, a juicy Lucy. Oh, underrated. Solely because I do not think enough people know what they are. So explain it to people that might not know what it is. So Juicy Lucy is like a hamburger, like any normal hamburger shape. Probably a little thicker, um they basically mold the

patty around some cheese depending whatever cheese you want so they take like a cube rectangle i don't really know how they do it i've never seen them make it but they'll mold the ground beef around the block of cheese and then grill the burger with the cheese inside of it. When you bite into it, that's where the cheese is. You don't just place the cheese on top after the fact. It's delicious. The cheese is melty, but it's a little bit of a double-edged sword. If you get it too early off the grill, you're going to get some cheese.

You're going to get third-degree burns. It's a hot pocket conundrum. Oh, yeah. It's molten cheese for sure. And isn't Minnesota where it supposedly all started? I think there's like, yeah, it's in the Twin Cities. Is it St. Paul? I think somewhere in St. Paul.

There's like three different burger joints in the Twin Cities that like claim to have been the originator. Of the Juicy Lucy. So I'm not exactly sure. Don't know the entire history of it, but it did originate in Twin Cities. And they are delicious. I enjoy them. It's a good change up. It is. I ate at one of them and I don't know what one it was. And I

remember the people worth being like, this is where Juicy Lucy started. I'm like, damn, that's really cool. And I don't know how I ran across it and then I found out exactly what you said. They're like, no, there's like a handful of places that claim to all have started it. Juicy Lucy. That one's up for debate. Good news. It looks like you passed overrated, underrated. That one's up for debate.

Good news. It looks like you passed overrated, underrated. So that's right up there with catching a pass from Tom Brady. Yeah, I think we'd agree for the most part with everything. Any no hot takes? I don't really have a hot take.

I mean, the biggest hot take for us would maybe be you know, depending on the year Kirk Cousins is having, you could maybe change the over, or I should say even the week. I could maybe change my opinion on that one, but at the moment, he's playing pretty good.

No, for sure. They're doing well, man. 8-1. You know, having been an athlete for a Minnesota sports team, albeit not a pro one, they're cursed with Minnesota sports.

We'll kind of see how it plays out down the road. Maybe play them in Minneapolis in the playoffs. You never know. Road through US Bank Stadium, maybe. Never know, man.

Yeah, that'd be fun. We'd have to beg, borrow, and steal to get tickets for that one. Oh, geez, I'd probably have so many people coming at me for tickets for that. Do you get that a lot? This year, are people like...

Yeah, you'll get random people on social media. I probably had 10 or 15 people from Germany DM me on Instagram being like, hey, it's impossible to get tickets. Do you think you can give us a ticket? These don't respond, but... Do you guys all just's done with his mind. Do you guys all just like, is that a thing? Do you guys all just get tickets to pass out to people? Is that even a...

I never even thought about that. Do you have 10 tickets with your name on it for every game? Right. No. You get two free tickets to, I think, home games. And you still have to pay taxes on those. Yeah.

And then outside of that, I think you can have up to eight. So you can buy six additional tickets for whatever market price for that game is. So it can change from week to week, depending on how many tickets you want to get. So you don't have 50 tickets to pass out to every

dude that you said hi to 13 years ago. No, no, no, no, no. No, not a chance. Even if I did, I wouldn't be doling it out like that. Yeah, it's a funny thought.

If you did have some tickets, it's like, yeah, dude, I'm probably going to give them to my family, not you, some guy asking me on social media. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, I had probably going to give them to my family, not you, some guy asking me on social media. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, I had to calc with you. Remember me? No.

Sorry, dude. Yeah, that's funny. Not too much, man. I'm trying to stay low-key. I have been low-key like obviously um do you have do you have now that you are you know technically on an nfl payroll do you have like any crazy purchases in mind like i don't like maybe getting like an 80s buick and like spray painting your face on the hood or anything like crazy like that i've i have i've had some thoughts the craziest probably the most expensive thing i

bought um was a used truck okay i did just buy a ps5 which is a little bit of a splurge for me but uh used truck right now is pretty freaking expensive like oh yeah like tommy and i've talked about it you can spend like more money on a used truck than like what a lot of people think is like an expensive sports car at this point you know yeah seriously it's killing me at the moment but what are you gonna do yeah when the needs there he's kind of got to get it so when you've got it down to tampa without one yeah you got a pair of lift jorts so that's up there in your

vaulted, with your gold chains and everything else. Dude, I have four or five teammates that are like, I would like a pair of those. We should have more in a few weeks here. I'd like a pair of them too, if the damn things ever show back up. Yeah, we've got more

coming, so eventually we'll be able to. Some like McDonald's hotcakes. They can't keep them in stock. They can't. No, man. It's a shamrock shake. Talk about juicy Lucy. You should see some dudes in a pair of lift jorts.

Oh, man. Seeing. Oh, man. Seeing Now, why am I forgetting his name? Oh, Jonathan Oldham Bacon and Barbells. Yeah, oh, God. He's like the king of them.

Like when he was posting a video. Was that today or two days ago? It was like, well, rip my, rip my jorts. So I figured I'd cut them off and squat 700 pounds for five reps in them. Yeah. It's like he has a permanent speedo on. And if the speedo isn't appropriate, like jorts are over the top of it.

Yeah. I think he made me buy a shiny C speedo. I think that's like my sole swimsuit that I have in Florida right now. Is it like a Jean, Jean print speedo? I think now is like a jean print Speedo. I think he is like their leading. He's got to be like their leading. Yeah, he's told us some stories about his time with them too. I don't know if social media marketing, man, is nuts to me.

It kind of weirds me out. Yeah, it's very weird. Pimping yourself out. It's very weird. Pimping yourself out for some clothes. Not that that's wrong. I would love to do it for Massanomics. That's completely different. You guys have morals.

We're not like those other people. No, that's just night and day different. Yeah, man, this was awesome. Next time, after the season or whatever it is, next time you're're closer in the area like in Iowa region, we've got to get you to come make the drive a little farther north up to western northeast South Dakota and come maybe get a lift in the gym, something like that.

That would be glorious. I will because I will drive back up here eventually in the offseason and do that. Yep, that would be awesome. I have to make the return trip. Ah, man. I feel like we're talking about football the whole time.

Yeah, probably. We have to do another one and just talk strictly about lifting. Oh, yeah. That's my true love. That's why I've followed you guys and all these crazy dudes. So if you weren't if you weren't playing football like is that would you be involved in lifting in some way um our training

like if i didn't make the nfl yeah yeah if you were you know let's say uh let's say i didn't if i made an nfl team this year, immediately probably would have tried to get on a cycle just to see how that is. Yeah. Yeah. What are some of your best numbers that you put up before?

We should have talked about that for sure. I think the best squat that I ever did in college was 465 or 485 for seven reps. Oh, damn. Nice. And you're like, what, 6'5", 260? 6'5", 260.

Yeah. Bench? um bench i don't know i think my like true heaviest one rep max is like 385 yep and i think i ended up doing uh 345 for like four reps before yeah i would guess if you weren't playing football like in a matter of like weeks you'd probably be like and if you're like yeah now that i weren't playing football, like in a matter of like weeks, you'd probably be like, and if you're like, yeah, now that I'm not playing football anymore, I'm just lifting. You'd probably be benching four plates and just now that all I have to recover from is just a workout. Right, right. Oh, yeah, 100%.

Well, because now, too, I'd be a strength coach. I'd just be there all the time in the gym. Right. But I'm kind of my uh and it's still my question it's like what way do i want to go post football do i want to see how strong i can be or do i want to like try to get a six-pack because i like never had one i've always kind of been like quote-un unquote skinny fat you know what I mean like that

the power lifter that says he's going to bulk up a weight class and like never comes out of the bulk just kind of like like well between your options I have been told before that strong is never wrong so I don't know if that helps you know

weakness is never a strength heard that one before yeah strong is never wrong. So I don't know if that helps. Strength is never a weakness. Yeah, weakness is never a strength. We've heard that one before. Yeah. Strong is never wrong. Strong is never wrong. I like that. Well, then, too, if you do that, you know, you bulk up a little bit. You got more mass for the cut.

That's true. Yeah. You got to make sure there's something there. That's fine. Right, right. Yeah, I'll say that, you say that if I ever get on again don't take too much time but lifting for sure is

my love it's the reason why I'm playing in the NFL right now is that what you went to school for? strength and conditioning is that what your major was in? I was a freshman I was in biology i wanted to go to med school oh and then um through a series of events um it was either uh be a biology major be on the football team so uh ended up trying to like figure out kind of for like a semester

like alright what's what am I going to be and just like I loved lifting and like my dad was a high school coach so I knew I'd like being a coach and I just kind of found you know my love of strength and conditioning

and was like kind of the route we're going to chase so I think that's what I might try to do this offseason, actually, is take the CSCS and get that certification. Yeah, you got that lift shirt and never looked back. Literally, man.

You guys and Hunk Finn suck me into it. Yeah. You still get brought up on their podcast every other weekend. I think it's probably competition what gets brought up more often, Mastodonics or Coquifed on the

Let's Get Stupid podcast. It will be fun to rub it in, though, because they've never called you to be on the podcast, have they? I don't think. Huck even came to one of my games last year, dude. Did he get kicked out? He got kicked out. He got thrown out.

Was that when he was like, he had his shirt off and he was throwing the beer everywhere? That's like every game he goes to, though. Yeah, like all those Bears games he goes to. Yeah, so I don't know. You have to room my roommate in college bailey schoenfelder who is from here on oh no he got kicked out of the ufm game right

yeah yeah yeah i forgot about that yeah yeah and bailey was like with him um yeah so your your roommate i don't remember all the details is from here on then right yeah right yep yeah and so uh i remember seeing him we're playing miami ohio i remember they like showed him on the video board for like probably a minute a minute straight and as soon as they put the video board on him like he somehow just found like four beers so it was just like trying to chug him but like spilling it all over himself and then uh yeah as i don't know he was like somebody was telling him i don't remember the whole story you have to ask him but i think it was something along the line of somebody basically wanted him out and then he was like

fuck you and then like they asked him to leave so he just left and then he was like, fuck you. They asked him to leave, so he just left. Then he was at the tailgate after the game and he was just gone. He was so drunk. I thought my mom was going to kill him. We've been around him when he's been like that before.

He's an animal, man. You can't. We've seen it before where I'm pretty sure his own wife wants to kill him there's just not an off switch there once again no yeah man he is blessed for sure with that one

yeah it's good remember at the Arnold that year when he was just bombed like at the end of the when he was just bombed? Like, at the end of the day, and he's doing the worm. And at one point, we're like, how the hell is he still going right now? Like, he had drinking well over a case of beer throughout the day. And then he's, like, in front of a bunch of people doing the worm,

like, making an enormous scene. And then all of a sudden, yeah, he's, like, just, like, running around with his midget, like, held over his head. And it's just, like, every time you look, you're like, I don't get how this is even happening right now. Yeah. Oh, man. Literally, his beer bong bench videos are like

what kind of ensnared me and all my cronies into the world of social media strength world. That's awesome. That that's perfect I remember the best like one time at the Arnold when their booth was across from ours or whatever or maybe we were at theirs or something

and there's a big crowd around him you know he's shotgunning beers or drinking beers with people and a couple dudes walk by that they probably lifted you know but they were probably more into I don't know you know they were in like stringer tanks. Yeah, there it is. Some bro left.

Yeah, just some bros. And the one, I'm right next to him, and the one goes to the other and like, what's the deal here? Like, who is this guy? What do they do? Or what's he do? Or why do people know him?

And the other guy goes, well, I think he drinks a lot and lifts. And the other guy goes like, oh. And then they turn around and just get walked away. And I'm like, yeah, those guys probably aren't my people. This is not your audience. Right, right. No, definitely.

That's like, you can't get much better than lifting weights and drinking beer, either separate or together. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's the bad. Awesome. Well, Coe, this is good stuff. I think the people are going to be excited to hear this one.

Tommy Tanner preaching the opportunity to be on. Going to have to get out to Aberdeen this spring. You let us know. We'll make it happen. We usually bust out the limo whenever anyone important comes. We'll roll out the red carpet.

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm from the Midwest. I don't need any of this. Oh, party bus then. I remember. We'll get the party bus. Yeah, we'll get the party bus. I'm driving my shit box straight to the gym.

That's right. We'll go crush some beers in the bed. Excellent. All right, man. Sounds good. We appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Excellent. All right, man. Sounds good. We appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Cole.

See you, Jen. See you. He got the cool beans. He probably needs cool beans in that hot Florida weather. That's a good thing you gave him a double serving of cool beans. Cool him down. Yeah. 75 degrees.

Jeez, it must be nice. Yeah. I don't know what that's like talk about talk about some weather they've been having same weather we kind of have all year so we got the peak behind the nfl curtain there yep that's fun what makes ko so cool he's a very uh he's just a fun just a dude fun dude you know yeah i did not realize that he's just a fun, just a dude, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I did not realize that he's from actually that close to South Dakota before this started. I,

for in my head, just feels like Iowa is the East side of the state. I didn't realize he was way over on the West side. So, right. And he's also got that connection with his roommate, you know, being from here on.

So we've got that tight connection there too. And I bet we'll get him up here at some point in time to come check out the gym and stuff. So that would be fun. I would be looking forward to that. Yeah, it would be a good time. My son would shit his pants. A pro athlete?

What's going on here? My son Jack is a Buccaneers fan. Well, you technically, I mean, you are Tanner. It's on the record. You can go back a long time. That's true. I have always been a Buccaneers fan actually but to be fair co being on the team has made me care much more than I care for the team because uh and actually my son being into football that's

probably the bigger thing but he was you know by far more excited about co being on the podcast than anyone we've ever had he wanted to come tonight he's like can i come and i'm like well we sit there for hours without even podcasting you wouldn't really there's a good chance you would be sleeping by the time we get to yeah co's not gonna be here you know like uh someday we'll get him up here and they can come hang out then and so yeah he's uh yeah put on a put on a blocking clinic for children show them how that like with some like actual demonstrations where co-chief runs at them full speed he'll be at 100% this is how you play in the big leagues i bet co could run over like 30 uh 10 years yeah just be like dominoes knocking him down yeah he is an impressive blocker and so you know he is

good at uh what he does. On a surface level, it's like, well, yeah, you just get in front of someone and stop them. But it's a whole different game. When he talks about some of the guys being freaks and him working hard, and no doubt, I guarantee he works extremely hard and the weight room is a big part of it.

But also, he's, not to sell himself short, you don't get to the NFL without being a little bit of a yeah without being six five and you know like good genetics obviously uh you know if uh he's no anomaly yeah yeah he's no slouch in that regard either big co now if he made the pro bowl and special teams that would be really cool the like it's like oh like that's got to be like a a ticket to making the roster for a couple years i think like i made the pro bowl you would think like you can't not say you know you you gotta keep me around for a while yeah or at the very least be in the nfl a while then, right? Right, yeah, right. Have that on your resume. For sure.

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each side of the sign would look really impressive i there is a lot of room and just like my on my just general basement walls that the masson could go with the strobe we've never i don't know if we've ever turned it on on here we'll do that for episode 350 there you go we'll do the entire episode strobe and all the other lights in here will be off so you basically can't see us but just a strobing light youtube will put some epilepsy warning on the front of it without us even knowing yes um kids would think that's cool the strobe effect if that's going all the time that's true it'd probably get broke definitely yeah yeah think about kids they break stuff they're great at it it's like they're they think they're limp biscuit or something they're freaking fred nurse out there get that red hat to the back breaking stuff

yep nothing stands a chance did it all for the nookie, didn't they? Kids for you. Doing it all for the nookie. Yep. Do we got anything else that we need to hit on this week? Let me just check my list to make sure we didn't miss anything, you know, super time sensitive. Oh, yeah.

We didn't play Has He Seen It this week. Oh, damn. We did not. That's fine. Whatever you want to do. I didn't play Has He Seen It this week. Oh, damn. We did not. That's fine. Whatever you want to do. I don't know. Is that a streak thing that we have to do every week? Maybe it kind of is now because we've been sticking to the years.

Do we got time to just do Has He Seen It? Okay. We've been going after. We've got 15 minutes still. We'll do Has He Seen It and then we'll close out this episode. Okay. Okay. Then land the plane?

Yes. Then we'll bring this one in for a landing. I struggled a little bit with 1995 a lot of different options we're getting to i think as we get out of like 1990 and more into 1995 i'm gonna struggle because there's just so many choices that i think are fair good choices yeah i'm taking two off the board like we took dumb and also shocking i couldn't believe the number of people in like, yeah, they haven't seen dumb.

Okay, that that's disturbing. I wasn't or wasn't exaggerating the last episode. You said, I don't think there's anyone that listens that hasn't seen them. I wasn't just like saying that as a figure of speech. I actually didn't think there was people that hadn't seen that movie unless you were like four years old, right?

Like right now, like you're a baby. I thought everyone had seen that movie unless you were like four years old right like right now like you're a baby i thought everyone had seen that movie yeah i mean or maybe if you're 20 right now like would you have been even there if you're 20 i feel like by the time you're 20 you've gone to high school and if you haven't gone to college you have some friends that have and you just watch dumb movies especially comedies maybe that's changed too maybe you don't watch funny movies anymore back in my day we watched dumb and dumber just watch dumb you just watch dumb movies all the time and i also like this guy that hasn't seen many movies and i feel like that's all we did back in my day you had cable television and

dumb and dumber was on cable television nonsense all the time yeah i do forget about that part actually not a lot of people have cable anymore so if netflix doesn't have dumb and dumber on at that time or whatever and also like it was a different formula before you had to watch something that you didn't really have the choice and now you have we're just force-fed stuff before i do feel like you're less inclined to watch something like ace ventura pet detective or dumb and dumber or any of those things now when you could you're like and now as soon as it starts the first commercial break it comes on you're like why am i wasting i don't need this hour and a half movie

to be three hours long i did actually want to watch since we talked about it i did want to watch ace ventura with my son and it was not streaming on i had anything was not free on anything i'm like i'm not paying four dollars for this movie it's very worth watching it for free but bringing it up i was talking about ace ventura last week and i forgot it is actually one of my wife's favorite movies she commented even yes she loves her and her sister both love ace ventura the first one or the second one both of them they love both of them they think they're so good i had jack all hyped on it and then i'm like oh so he hasn't seen it yet no oh yeah like we've gone through the austin power you know i i take him through these uh oh as a kid like jim carrey just how insanely

goofy he is there's jack has seen pretty much the entire um adam sandler library worth seeing you know the hits the top the, the ones you should watch. He's seen like the Austin Powers ones now. And then like, when we were talking about Ace Ventura, I went to him right away. I'm like, we got to watch the Ace Ventura movies that you're going to love these.

Like I was in the explaining to him and then I'm like, great. Now we've got to pay $4 for this stupid movie. Like nobody should be price. You got to pay. It feels like it's too old and just too dumb of a comedy to charge for yeah so i am taking two off the table just because we've taught some of these if we've talked about them 20 times on the podcast i'm not going to ask you if you've seen it before

or not because well you're like you're assuming i've seen it or you know i have seen it i know you've seen okay okay the two that are coming off the table like dumb and dumber last week is Billy Madison and Tommy Boy. Yeah. I don't need to ask you if you've seen those because we've probably talked about each of those movies 30 times in the last five, six years. Have you taken Jack through the Chris Farley lineup yet? His only exposure to Chris Farley,

actually hitting on Chris Farley right there, his only exposure to Chris Farley would actually hitting on Chris Farley right there. His only exposure to Chris Farley would be from Billy Madison. Very limited there. It is. Beverly Hills Ninja. So good. That would be a good one. Yeah.

Yes. Hilarious. I think Chris Farley would hold up forever too. I think so. Well, it's that same thing. Like Jim Carrey. He's just such an over-exaggerated character. It's hard to not find that funny.

Yeah. So Billy Madison and Tommy Boy off the table just because it's just... That's fair. That's fair. Just too easy. Okay, so we've got seven. We usually run through seven.

We're on 1995. Last few weeks, you've gained momentum. I have. Here's what... We'll start with 1990. Here's how you've done. Two for seven. Then one for seven.

But then four for seven. Five of eight. And three of seven last week so in the last three you're averaging more around like that 50 yep and how many are we doing this week we're doing seven i try to keep so i'm gonna say four then this week just go i gotta get back get back just over 50 yeah momentum going here again okay so 1995 have you seen it tommy seven yes i have actually i've seen Seven multiple times. I actually owned that DVD. Okay.

I think it was one of those DVDs when you go to, what, Sam Goody back in the day? Yep. And they had a DVD bin and this was like $3. And it's like, oh, this looks cool. I'll get this. And yeah, great movie. I figured you, I kind of felt like we've talked about something that we've. What's in the box?

Yeah, yeah. But everyone knows that, right? If you haven't seen the movie. I think, I don't know. Like, you're just aware of that peripherally if you're like. That is one of the best crime thrillers ever, though, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's up there.

Yeah. If you're talking crime thrillers, it has to be top 10. Yeah, side note on The Wire. I finally almost watched the wire i literally was like going to i went to hbo and i was like i think i might watch the wire tonight i'm kind of thinking i watched something then i saw the band of brothers thing and i'm like ah i did see you i really would prefer to watch band of brothers for like the 10th i probably watched you actually oh yeah oh you have the first time i watched it we watched it in high school, like in my history teacher, like instead of when he didn't want to teach,

he would just let us watch Band of Brothers. So the first time I saw it would have been in like 2004, 2005. And since then, I have watched that front to back probably close to 10 times. Really? Yeah. Wow. It is really good. Is there 10 episodes, I think?

Nine, 10? Something like that. I've gotten through the first three okay i was pulling my wife along with me to watch it i could see and after three she's like my wife doesn't like she's like i can't i can't do this anymore and that's and then i never went back and i don't i was enjoying it a lot though it was really good oh i and i'm not like i'm not any like you know i was in the military you know army oh yeah i know you never shut up about it let's see that my point is i don't i do shut up about it but there is something i do really enjoy good military film stuff like and i don't know military because i have that point of reference but when military movies are good there's some of the best i agree there's not many movies that make the stakes feel higher than military movies are good there's some of the best i agree there's not many movies that

make the stakes feel higher than military movies yeah and band of brothers is so good and it tied to get tied in with being a well-tell well-told true story about this group of guys it's just like um crazy good and uh emotional and i kind of forgot about that even until you you did you see you had that in this word i should i should revisit that so my i would prefer to watch band of brothers for a tenth time then give the wires you're also it's daunting it's a much less daunting task looking at 10 hours versus like 70 that's why like it's too daunting for me to start the only thing that's nice about it is you now know that i don't have to ever think about deciding what to watch because this is just what's this is what i this is what's on the table for the next year or

yeah this is the thing this is the show that i watch yeah and then once you really get into it it's you know it's just like game of thrones or any good show once you get into it you don't have to be spurred along it doesn't for you it it's got you pulled in i'm just i don't want to go through watching those and the addition 10 episodes i don't want to have to get into it you do have 10 episodes of getting into it yeah i don't want to do that it's just the price to pay like i don't want to like i couldn't make myself sit and watch that first episode when i when i because i have that feeling like i don't know anything about this like none of the characters mean anything well i know but you have to do you have to watch the first 10 because it does just kind of lay the foundation for the whole

thing i mean that is that sounds like the first 10 the first 10 is way more about what it takes to get a wire going you know a phone a wire phone tap and then after that they don't have to spend all that time in the extra in the future episodes because they've talked about everything that involves in that and the characters have been introduced. So now season two comes, you know what it takes to get surveillance on people. You know who the characters are and they can just skip past all that and get to the show now.

That sounds like a lot of prerequisite homework you have to do in order to be entertained. It is. It's the anticipation that builds up to a crazy reward though. Yeah. I'm going to keep considering it. Something to think about for the future so far you're one for one but we have had really good wire and band of brothers talk we have we have almost forgot what we're doing here we've legitimately talked about the wire

so many times on the show now and like had real conversations about it and i still haven't seen a single episode of it it's the amazing part of it okay one for one actually make me think though you were talking about how you like game of thrones but it's the amazing part of it. Okay. One for one. It did actually make me think though, you were talking about how you like game of Thrones because it's just all these stories and you'd ever even, a lot of times how you, you won't hear from people.

And sometimes you, not even sometimes huge chunks of the time, you never even know who the main character is. The wire does that same thing. It's that exact same thing where some people are the main character for episodes or seasons and then the next season comes and you see that person never.

And you think, are they even in the show anymore? And then the next season comes back and they're a main character again. It's part of the beauty of it. And it's also much like the Game of Thrones where they have no problem killing off main characters

and all that stuff too. Another thing to think about there. I'll consider thinking, I'm going to be thinking about it as I watch Band of Brothers here. That's a good thing to think about there i'll consider thinking i'm going to be thinking about it as i watch band of brothers here that's a good time to think about and then i'm going to watch generation kill again after i finish band of brothers yeah well you don't want to you don't want to rush it's a big commitment okay one for one i'm glad you repeated the story have you seen it clueless okay i know for sure i've seen parts of this i'm trying to think if i've ever actually seen the whole thing i feel like i have seen the whole thing but it's so long ago that uh it was at least for like if i saw this movie it was it

was either when i was in middle school or like a freshman in high school yeah um you feel like that's enough to say yes on that one well it wasn't do you remember the lines of the plot of the movie it's have you seen it boy this is the closest i've ever felt on a tiebreaker because part of me deep down says I have seen this but I can't remember hardly anything about that movie other than they're in like Southern California aren't they yeah they're I don't know rich yeah like rich in high school

like totally I'll just say no because there's so much I can't remember even though I feel like I have seen this movie before going with no one for two next one I'll be curious i'm curious to hear the answer to this is it clueless too no no that wasn't in 1995 we'll get to that one uh this one maybe will hurt people's feelings if it's a no you know it's in that level of like

yeah it's like how is he not seeing it's making me feel like it's gonna be no right well i don't know i feel like maybe it's a no have you seen it braveheart i have seen braveheart yeah yeah but that well don't you think that yeah one if you i can see how like have you not watched braveheart yeah oh totally totally yep yep um yes i have seen braveheart don't quote me on this i think it's not historically accurate they were not wearing kilts at that point of history oh really i don't know for sure i think that they were not they had moved on from that no i don't think they oh that hadn't started yet oh i think that so i've heard something before about that being historically inaccurate do you like braveheart yeah i mean it's it's a good movie i haven't seen it for quite a while it's uh i believe i watched that it'd be daunting for me to start i actually think uh we watched that movie uh my freshman year of college we had like an art history class don't know why but i believe we watched that movie in that class okay and i

think that's the only time i've ever seen the whole thing front to back because it's art it is a work of art so two for three uh this three. This is probably my favorite one on the list here. Has he seen it? Heavyweights. Yeah, I've seen heavyweights many, many times. I figured you've seen heavyweights. But I didn't think it was so much a home run that it was worthy of the exclusion list.

Oh, yeah. I had a friend in high school that thought heavyweights was like i remember watching it growing up and it was funny but then when i got to high school i had a friend that really liked it it was like really you really like this movie and then when he started quoting all the lines and making us watch it then it just got to be hilarious yeah and part of it is the lines part it is like uh what devil log i'll be doing doing this by August 23rd or whatever when he's flipping around on the log Ryan always has a good

laugh about when they're when the they're in is it the chipmunks bunker chipmunks download and then they get all their get these salamis off my back strapped to his back over the top I've heard Ryan several times say,

chipmunks download. he loves that part of it. So, three for four. I'm feeling strong, Uncle Tony. Is, what's,

is it Lars? Is that what his name is? Lars. Yeah. Who we've also discussed is not jacked. Yeah. We've talked about this before. Yeah.

Possibly doing a segment of people we thought were jacked but actually were not jacked yeah the more i think about it i know you've seen heavy weights but i still i feel like that could be on the that wasn't an exclusionary item because of its nature okay three for four um it's gonna get interesting here have you seen it apollo 13 i have not seen apollo 13 i figured you had kind of like that's also one of those movies where it was a really big movie in the 90s right yeah yeah and i never saw it yeah tom hanks uh kevin bacon uh the third guy and the other guy he's deceased i think what's he was in twister oh yeah or no was it twister the one where it's

dorothy that they put you have you seen that you probably haven't yeah i have seen twister actually is that twister i remember watching that and being terrified because twister was probably about 95 96 wasn't it yeah 97 uh i remember watching that and then being terrified of living in the midwest every summer because a tornado is going to come and murder me in my house uh that guy is it randy quaid i think that's it is or something i don't even really know if he was in that movie and i couldn't tell you for sure what he looks like but i feel like that's the right name that's i that also feels right if it's not him it should be so you haven't seen apollo 13 i have not, no. But you're aware of Apollo 13? I'm very aware of it, yeah. I'd totally watch it if I had the time and it was on,

but no, I've never seen it. I like it. I think it'd be a good movie. I got into enjoying watching space stuff for a while, and I watched Apollo 13 a few times there, and good flick. Tom Hanks, I enjoy his performances usually. usually yeah he has a pretty long list of has i'm i don't know that this this could go 50 50 coin toss a comedy from 1995 has he seen it major pain i have seen major pain uh i I remember when I watched it and everything.

I've only seen it once, but I do remember it. Yeah, I have seen it. I don't remember a ton from the movie, though. I probably watched it. That came out in 1995. I remember he sleeps with his eyes open. Is that what it was? Because he's like a drill sergeant or something like that.

And he's got the gold tube. Yeah, it came out in 1995. I probably watched that movie in like 97 or 98. I remember watching it with Ryan, but I just don't remember many details of it. He was very much a hard ass. Don't they go to a dance at some point in that? Yeah, I think like he gets put in a scenario

where he has to be like softer, but he's like such a stiff that it's like these like yeah and i couldn't remember if it was that or if he was actually a good dancer if what the deal is possible yeah i do remember that movie okay so that's it yeah that's one of those movies i remember previews a lot for for some reason yeah you know you rent a movie and then you have all these previews before the movie would started started, even on the movie you rented? You're four for six. All right.

If you hit this last one, that would give you your best ratio ever at five for seven. So a lot riding on this one. There's everything riding on this one. And you know how we usually end in an Arnold movie? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. From 1995, this is not an arnold movie today we're going to end in a um pierce brosnan flip okay we're going to i've seen some with him if you've seen some you've i think you've seen

this one so has he seen it goldeneye 007 i I have seen Golden Eye because I was such a... You had to be up to date on the game. Yeah. I was such a fan of the game. You're like, oh, there's a movie based on this game? Yeah. I got to get to the bottom of this. Yes.

That was... So... All-time great game. Golden Eye the game is what... That's like in my top 10 of games all time it might be in like my mount rushmore of games oh it we spent so much time playing four player split screen golden eye that and it just never got old to me is like there's nothing much better than that it was so much fun all the dumb stuff you would do where you would just play these multiple multiplayer levels the stack the like all the complex uh and like some of the levels it's just the same level only you

can also go in the basement basically you know like it's like and it's like oh let's do a big head mode oh let's do golden gun mode oh let's do proximity mines and it's on the ones where the doors open yeah yeah and but you could also look at everyone else's screen and know where everyone was at at all times too yeah so it was always this battle of getting no screen yeah getting mad at everyone for looking at your screen yep uh so i think that was tiniest television the tiny 13 in the four split in four so like how can i even it's like everyone's playing on an iphone but they're also we're all 10 feet away all right in a line with four of us that is like the best video game there's nothing we played so much of that uh the slappers oh yeah come in and i always thought that

the sniper rifle looked like a looked like a squirt gun a super soaker yeah i always thought that the playing the golden gun mode that that's you know you know it's like a mad dash to get this stupid golden pistol and like the golden gun mode was it takes one shot your dad no matter what right yeah that was really fun this is the whole like the one gun to me i can't remember it was black it always looked like a black colored pencil was the ak-47 that's probably what it was doesn't it look like a black colored pencil it looked really weird yeah the uh i gotta see these now wasn't there a laser too wasn't that an option you could turn on in that oh the moonraker i think okay um who what character would you pick on uh i remember being odd job a fair amount odd job was a fun one yeah short too so it's a yeah it was a little bit of an advantage here we go here's the i'm just looking here okay here oh the clob i remember that thing the clob yeah like and then

you're double wielding uh-huh i forgot you could do that oh the shotgun had the uh the shells on the on the gun there you could see them oh look at that that looks like a black colored pencil oh yeah i think that's ak-47 yeah i'm pretty sure it looks like you're holding a black colored pencil tell me like if you can well and you. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That looks like you're holding a black colored pencil. It does. Tell me if you can honestly see that. And you see the sniper rifle on the far left? That looks like a super soaker, right? Yeah. I think it has to be the scope.

And is that like a.44 Magnum? Or is that with that one pistol? Because you'd shoot that pistol. Was that what it was? Something like that. But that one always sucked because you take one shot and it goes like this. All the recoil. And then it takes forever to be able to shoot.

Yeah. There's the golden guns right there yeah double golden guns uh that's good stuff uh did you ever play the regular i actually did like the story i thought it was really fun yeah i remember doing that but oh so talking of this is i think i feel like that's what introduced me to james bond yeah because i was probably what year was this? 1995. And if the game came out around then, it was probably like seven. Yeah.

So getting introduced to James Bond. And I remember watching, renting gold and I watching gold and I, and being like, oh, this is cool. And by the way, there's like 50 other James Bond movies. And then you start watching them and you'd usually be at someone's house and

like their dad would be there. And it was always weird because, oh, why is this guy always having sex with all these women while he's trying to kill people? And then those scenes always happen to be. Oh, you summed up the entire plot of every movie. James Bond having a lot of sex with women

while he's trying to kill people. The spy, he has to kill someone, but at the same time, he has to have sex with a bunch of people first. And he might even have to have sex with the person he has to kill. It's not completely unlikely his character fly or the person that he has to have sex with might be needing to kill him yeah and they're also gonna have some really weird nicknames too yeah uh but there was always a parent around it felt like for one of those scenes i feel

uncomfortable i don't know where to look uh there's boobs here and i'm just a kid and your dad's here too this is really weird that was james bond though yeah that's what he did with our age if you're our age i think uh pierce brosnan probably was your first exposure he wasn't james bond very long though was he i don't think he's uh i think widely revered as one of the top james bonds either do you think i think i don't think so i think he is too far on the spectrum of like fancy british fancy british james bond whereas daniel craig is much more like uh blue collar i like this guy james bond i've i guess i'll just get ahead of you here. Okay.

I've never seen a Daniel Craig, James Bond movie. Oh, they're good. I know they are, and I'd love to watch. I've never seen a single one. Some of those are just outside of, you just even peel away James Bond completely. They're just great movies. Yeah, I would say maybe even just straight up great movies.

Some better than others, and I don't remember which are which. Casino Royale is a good movie. I totally believe it. And you don't need to... The good part about James Bond is you... They're not really connected. I guess they are. The Daniel Craig ones, I guess, are a little bit connected.

But it's not really all that relevant. Yeah. Pierce Brosnan. Pierce Brosnan played James Bond in Goldeneye. Tomorrow Never Dies. The World Is Not Enough. Die Another Day. Four movies.

That's quite a few. Did you know that Goldeneye game, I think, was made by like four people? Pretty amazing, huh? That's probably why it was four players so they could all play they're like i don't coincidence i think not like that had to be up there with all-time selling nintendo 64 games should we find out yeah what's your other guesses for oh mario and zelda for sure have to be up yeah uh i don't like what was it

mario 64 or what i didn't think that that was that good oh i thought i we got it for christmas one year and i thought it was just the most insane thing ever i always thought the gameplay was like after i was used to nes mario then super nintendo mario then going to this i was like i don't like this is what like this is like the 3d world is just oh it blew my mind all right super mario 64 best-selling game yeah that makes on the n64 11.9 million copies i wonder like that doesn't seem like that many maybe it is a lot super smash brothers so yeah mario uh mario kart 64 was number two with almost 10 million. That makes sense, I guess.

And Goldeneye was number three with 8 million. So only behind the Mario games. Yeah, and Goldeneye was ahead of Legend of Zelda, which was number four, and Super Smash Brothers was number five. Super Smash Brothers was a lot of fun, too. Oh, we played that so much. And Legend of Zelda, I played that game a ton. Pokemon Stadium was six. I didn't play fun too oh we played that so much and legend of zelda i played that game a ton pokemon stadium was six i didn't play that much never played that donkey

kong 64 i didn't ever really get into donkey kong starfox i love starfox uh oh star star wars episode one racer i played that game so much you just do pod racing the whole time i thought that was the best thing ever. I loved it. Does that get us to 10 or where? That's number 13, actually. Star Wars Shadow of the Empire. That was number 18.

I also loved that game, too. That was very, very fun. Did you play much Mario Party ever? No. Oh, we played a lot of Mario Party. Oh, and WCW, NWO Revenge. Did you ever play that one? Yes.

Yes. I always liked that. That was very fun. Yes. Oh, andvenge. Did you ever play that one? Yes. I always liked that. That was very fun. I'm assuming you could in that one, but when you could bring out tables and chairs and ladder matches and cage matches. Is that still boarding anywhere on the list? Yep, 1080 is number 24, which NWO, WCW, that was number 27.

How about NFL Blitz? Does that show up anywhere? That's got to be in there. Because that was number 27 how about to nfl blitz does that show up anywhere that's got to be in there because that was a really good game a really fun game yep tony hawks was number 31 cruising usa number 30 on the list to rock do you ever play that one dinosaur hunter yeah that's in there i don't remember thinking it was fun but i do god what did you tell me? NFL Blitz.

I don't see it on the list. That kind of surprises me. I guess a sport game appeals to a narrow. Yeah, that has to be what it is. But that wouldn't be true if you're talking about Madden. I suppose Madden is. I don't see Madden on this list either. Kobe Bryant in NBA courtside is on the list, though.

NFL Blitz had to have... Namco Museum 64 is on here. So you finished 5-7, set a new PR. Congrats on that. Awesome. We'll see you next week. We can see what 1996 brings. I'm kind of riding some momentum now. Yeah.

I got some. I think we're getting into a better year. It's into like when I was growing up now, actually watching movies. You don't have to go back in the catalog too far. I think we'll do a bell curve probably. Yeah, at some point it's definitely. If we go later than 1990, it gets the farther.

I think it's going to really taper off about 2012-ish, I think. Mine would too, I'm afraid. When I start living life a little more. Sit around watching movies quite as much. Right. Right. But for now, we've got some time until we get there. We're getting right into the meat of the heavy hitters.

Yep. Should we bring this one on home? Yeah, let's do it. All right, Tommy, where do they find you at? You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner. What is it? Tanner underscore Baird?

I think so. That sounds right. Tanner underscore Baird. Sounds right. Okay. But really, I don't care about that. Just make sure to follow Mastonomics at Mastonomics. See ya. We'll see you next time.