Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 352: The Massenomics Powerlifting Meet is Official

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

The 2023 Massenomics Lift Hard Live Easy Powerlifting Meet is officially going to be a real thing. We give you some of the insider Infor of what to expect from the event. We made some MASSive upgrades to studio 6.9 for this episode, and we are super pumped about the way the audio and video both turned out! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! Masanomics! Alright, welcome back everyone for episode 352 of the Masanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. Recorded live from western northeast South Dakota and from eastern southeast South Dakota. My name is Tanner.

And my name is Tommy. Tommyy some weather we've been having oh man you know that's not even like an icebreaker at this point like that is literally a a point of problems in people's lives right now it's it is intense right now yeah um so what is it like i don't know what do they say the wind chills is like negative 40 degrees yeah i earlier today when i checked my phone the feel like temperature was negative 45 like that's too cold yeah i had to uh do a little snow blowing this morning it didn't snow that much but it had drifted in so i had to do a little snow blowing and shoveling this morning and i had i never have to do this I had to take multiple breaks to come back inside because my hands were just like I know like in the danger

zone of like actually gonna have problems here I had just a tiny little drift in front of my door and just scooping that little drift out of course it all blows back in your face so then you get this little bit of moisture on your face and you're within 30 seconds, your face is burning. Like it is an intense cold that I'm not sure I've felt that many times in my life ever. Yeah, no coincidence, I guess, here that we are both wearing our massonomics coats today, is it? No, no, those those stay on. The coats are required this time of year. on the coats are required this time of year you're wearing the uh um crew neck coat and i'm wearing you know the mss nmx oh tanner just wait uh i'm uh i'm being silly over here and i muted you on

accident tanner now okay i was just talking about the sweat the coats that we're wearing and you've got the varsity coat and I have the, uh, you know, the vowel less MSS and MX coat on. Yes. Um, not a lot of stock of this coat that I'm wearing. There is pretty good inventory of the coat that you're wearing. Uh, probably the best news though. Most exciting news,

the Navy blue lift massonomics hooded coat. That one is coming back in stock. I think as we record, it'll come back in stock tomorrow so when this episode releases to the public everyone it'll be available for everyone that's uh pretty cool that's like uh basically an early christmas present right there yeah so we weren't sure what we were going to do as far as uh whether we bring back any of the coats. And I keep saying coats, but by this point, hopefully most people know when I say,

one man's coat is another man's sweatshirt. Yeah, the differentiator is just the amount of washing you have to do, right? Yeah, like really no washing on a coat. I mean, little to none, I guess is the general rule of thumb. Before I get too carried away with all of that, I want to talk about, let's pick something. I'm going to talk about Spud Ink. Our good friends over at Spud Ink, spud-ink-straps.com. The yellow straps that you're all familiar with. Some of the products I just have seen people recently using in the gym is their lifting straps.

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do it do it easy choice grr baby very grr sorry i was a Very grr. I almost forgot my line on that one. I was like, line. Yeah. Yeah. Where is it? Where is it? Uh, big news, Tanner. Oh, hello. Um, just had the first ever encounter with someone wearing massonomic clothing out in the public. And did you know the person? I did not know the person. I, when i say out in the public i gotta uh caveat that with it was in a gym so it does make sense you know it's the right audience but i was caught by surprise because i said he had a lift hat on and i said it was the lift hat i said hey what what version the blue blue flex fit yeah the blue flex fit with the white uh yeah lifting on the front i'm gonna go hey nice hat man he goes yeah

you're on the podcast with tanner right i go yep that's me and he goes actually i went to the gym for a while last summer he was uh he big brandon i believe was his name if i'm okay i said do not forget it do not forget it and i didn't and then i woke up this morning and i forgot it but i'm pretty sure it's big brandon he was in town working last summer, went to the gym for the summer, and now he is back in Sioux Falls. You know, it's crazy. I talk about it with the gym sometimes. We've had so many members in and out of there over the year that I –

it's funny, there's people's names on the list that I completely blank on anymore. But obviously if I saw them, I'm sure I'd remember. But I just – no offense to Big Brandon, but I just – it's just trying to blank on anymore but obviously if i saw him i'm sure i'd remember but i just uh no offense to big brandon but i just it's it's just around a blank on that but uh did you notice did it did the hat smell like farts uh you know i couldn't notice that there i think there's enough other stinky people in the room that it masks whatever might have been going on with the hat to be fair though when uh someone locally buys a hat i and all i have to do is deliver to the gym i usually don't fart on it well there's not there's not having a box at all you know right

yeah i i love it when people locally buy stuff because i just throw it in a bag and then i leave it on the atlas stone platform at the gym and i'm like i see that there like after a new drop there's just like a line of bags laying on the Atlas Stone platform. And you know, yep, all right, people bought these here. Yep, we're on the honor system. No one take anyone else's. I don't think nobody ever has. It's kind of funny in Mass Anomics Gym at all.

In general, I don't think anything's ever really been taken that I'm fully aware of. Well, the only mystery. Possibly one thing. Yeah, there's one mystery out there. Possibly my, I bought a lever belt. the only possibly one thing yeah there's one mystery out there i bought a lever belt and yeah that i i'm still i'm not sure that that was there was malicious right um motives with that i i mean a black inzer black lever belt like those are the easiest thing in the world to confuse i'm still giving people the benefit of the doubt and thinking someone probably on accident got them mixed around

took mine and then whatever happened, one disappeared. So I'm down to one, but that's fine. I really don't care. So much for him lasting a lifetime, right? I noticed something in your voice there that you sound a little bit. So because of that, you did buy a new belt, right? We never talked about that, actually. You are right.

Yes, I did. That'd make the... So because of your move, you know, massonomics gym has a whole bunch of community belts, all kinds of pioneer prong belts and stuff. I was fully like prepped for the fact that I would never buy a belt ever in my life. I kind of thought that being at massonomics gym, I would never have to worry about that. Well, when you move all the sense, like, damn, I do actually need a belt here. This is something I got to think about. And I have come to fall in love with the pioneer cut uh you know it's the single prong

with the adjustable every half inch i really have fallen in love with that belt at the gym we had a couple of them the ones we had were like the raw untreated leather i think is what it was um yes and i really i really like the look of those too and they look good and they have the the pioneer like embossed across the back of it like Like it is just a clean, good looking belt. Yeah. And I think it's used a lot too. Like it's broken into perfection. We've got a few of them too, you know, a couple of different sizes. I'd like to have more of them. I should buy more sometime. I know they're nice. They're nice. But so when it came time to, to buy my own belt, then it was, there was a little debate as to one do I do custom full-on custom and

go crazy with it and then I'm like I'm not sure if I want to spend like 250 bucks on a belt and wait two months to get it so the stock was just so nice I had to go with the stock now the stock one because I think the one we got you got it when it was a stock belt correct right those uh tan leather yep and now that's not the tanned leather isn't an option for stock it's all blacked out but i got it and man just something about there's something about suede just suede always looks so good especially when it's clean and fresh so i got the all black suede and um yeah i i'm loving it so far 10 millimeters i think that's all you need 13 is a chunky belt 10 is 10 is your ends old insert Inzer was a 13, right?

Yeah. And it was just, that thing was like a rock all the time. Like, I don't. Especially the 13 inch levers in particular. Like, to me, it's because of, depending on how the lever fits you, where you're at and the size of it, there can be a lot of double over with a lever. Yes. You know, I think a lot of people don't really realize that when they're first getting into belts is that um when there's overlap on a the lever you have like

now 26 millimeters thick in some places actually and uh it can be quite a bit and there can be some pinching in there too like you gotta kind of position the belt I actually kind of forgot about that it's been so long since I used a lever belt. Yeah. So I do think pioneer cut is just the way to go. So, well, cause I have an Inzer lever. My, I have the, that same belt, you know, I have that you don't have anymore. Hmm. That's actually seems a little fishy. Wait a minute. Did we just solve this mystery? Yeah. So I do have that, uh, that Inzer, but I wear i wear the pioneers you know the pioneer cut prong belts all the time now every once in a while i'll bust out my indzer level lever for squats only i do not like to wear that for deadlifts though oh no that was that was my biggest complaint is i actually i

mean the the lever you can get so tight and it is nice for squats you can just clamp it down so hard but then when it comes to deadlift like it is too much and then to find that happy medium which technically the pioneer adjustable lever would solve that now but uh we don't have any of those in the kind of i still to me i think i still for the deadlift for whatever reason call it uh an unfound you know just a odd opinion but i still would prefer the prong oh yeah deadlift even, you know, yes. A hundred percent. I just like, I don't know why, but that I totally agree. That's, it seems like that's the way to do it. So yeah. Yeah. For now I have the stock one. I could see though at Sunday, I could be talked into doing a full on custom massonomics one. I just didn't have the patience at this point in

my life to wait two months for that decking it out. Yeah so uh this is episode 352 we should talk about last you know like we we've made some studio changes already we alluded to it last week that we're going to be probably changing some things and uh to be completely honest and to be fair i mean we thought last week did not go how we wanted it to go right like we yeah we were not happy with it um and it's so hard to relative to us it sucked like I feel like we kind of feel it got done thinking like that feels like it sucked yeah I woke up in the morning and I had this feeling and I'm like why do I feel like something really bad happened and I just couldn't shake it and I'm like oh no once you start to think about it's like that feeling is no the podcast was not up to what our standards are and not that we have world-class standards for the podcast but

it didn't feel like that passed even uh what our standards are so we we got to thinking and talking probably way too much about it I think there was like a multiple hour phone call every night for almost a week straight to try and get this thing pinned down well i mean i've been we've been up late like every night working on this like the number of nights yeah that we have a phone call that starts at nine and we're like oh this will only go for like an hour and then like oh shit it's midnight right now okay maybe we should uh pack this up but that's been going on most of the past week. We've spent a ton of money to upgrade computers, like the sound boards, cameras, lighting, like all of this stuff. And it's not all totally here and set up yet. So there still is parts that are in a work in progress.

But we've spent so much time and effort and money getting this thing to a better state. time and effort and money getting this thing to a better state right now what i'm looking at the setup in the mass dynamics fulfillment center is uh there's you know like three to four grand of new equipment that we put in here over the past seven days like that like that is all did not exist prior to this that does now in an effort for us to make this more up to snuff to what we think it's going to be and i i already this, maybe we're 15 minutes into it here so far, I can tell it is already, I'm like, yep, this is worth it. We made the right decision with these choices. Yes, last week at this point, I was looking at you,

and I wasn't sure how old the potato that you're recording yourself with was. I never at any point saw your voice and face matching each other. There was always this weird delay, and the pixels I was looking at resembled you. And then there was a few spots where it actually did drop out. God, I'm kind of feeling like we're almost jinxing ourselves here. Well, all that to be said, we're not under the delusion that everything is 100% perfect right now. And like some parts, you know, we're going to continue to improve stuff as we go without a doubt. And like part of it's just getting used to some of our processes. It'll like inherently get improved over time. But overall, I mean, we're just like a light years ahead of where we were seven days ago and part of its money part of it's us playing around with it and part of it is I don't know you know figuring

out what didn't work and then helping us lead to what will work or the way that we do need to work and part of it is just me getting rid of a computer that was like 13 years old and quit trying to like I'm not sure what there's got to be a good analogy for that of like trying to do something with something that's awfully under equipped for it. Oh yeah. I think it's like riding a horse. No, it's not riding a horse. I think it's like riding a horse without, with an ass that's doesn't eat like with barely

having an ass. Like you can't ride. It's like everyone else on a horse with a saddle and you're like, not on a saddle. You're like, what's going on guys? I can't figure out why mine isn't working as good everyone else is driving around in a freaking tesla and a ferrari and i'm riding a horse is what it is you know like i like no that automobile is never going to catch on i'm going to keep uh you fools you know there there are a lot of problems that you can solve by just thinking about them smarter but then there is also a point where you just need to throw money at a

problem to actually solve the problem. Yeah. Well, it's really the combination of the two. It wasn't a single one of those for us, but it was a combination of them to, to help where we got. Yeah.

And upgrading internet and you know, upgrading some of our storage facilities and just a whole bunch of shit, honestly, that a lot of it just really far over my head, too, of the fact that the amount of IT, what I would call IT stuff that I've done in the last week, just wildly fucking, just greatly increased my capacity to do that sort of stuff. And maybe out of all the things we've gone through,

we've been going on Zoom calls and FaceTime calls. Like I've been getting, helping you get a camera set up and going through menus and we're talking internet speeds and dual band routers, like what band you'd like all these little weird, dumb technical things. But maybe the, the one that I got to give you the most props on the craziest one is when you said that you had to go into the terminal to update your, your shipping label printer. Like that is, that is mind blowing. I can't believe that you actually went through and did that. Okay. We did actually jinx it. Didn't we? Yeah. yes okay i was wondering if it's just me or not okay yeah but yeah you were talking about what what i was just saying though how really through

it up yes how absolutely mind-blowing it was that you went into the actual terminal on your mac to program this printer and all these other settings like when you told me you're doing that i'm like yeah he's in no man's land that's never gonna work and then you got on the other side and somehow our shipping label printer is now compatible with that computer like that is mind-blowing I can't believe you did that I can't either that blows my mind um and just even what I understand better about wi-fi internet at this point is like greatly increased what I'm understanding here and there's but there is still a

few things even like I think I probably am going to just hardwire internet into this computer here soon and then always the safest bet yeah and I didn't have that set up yet by this week but that's what getting at that it's a work in

progress a little bit and what we also changed is um the live stream now for the live stream is available to people that uh are supporting members they can choose to watch on the live stream each week and historically we'd live stream that through discord. Now what we're doing this week, we didn't do it last week. We tried something different. We scratched that this week. Now we're switching to, uh,

uh, live streaming through zoom. And that's kind of the system that we think we're going to roll with. You know, we'll see how this goes. It seems to be working. All right. But,

uh, for all of the supporting members that, uh, like to tune into the live stream, we believe zoom is going to be the Avenue that we're going to do that and this is our first test run of that and uh i think it works what do you think yeah we get zoom open you get discord going yeah on your phone if people are doing it that way it works good for picture in a picture if you need zoom in one corner discord in the other because i don't think discord worked the best for that on its own natively. So yeah, just all tiny little tweaks that we'll keep messing with as time goes on here.

And then the other thing I'd point out is if you are someone that watches the live stream, I think our video presentation is decent right now on the live stream, but both of us are recording on two cameras now. So what you're seeing on the live stream is not the video presentation that will be seen on YouTube each week of this. The YouTube video presentation is significantly better, I think, right? Right, yes, because the live stream is just going off of our computer's webcams, whereas we have actually another camera behind our computer that's recording us,

and that is what we'll use for the actual video, the YouTube footage. So, yeah, like right now I'm looking at two cameras with two different monitors showing, actually I can see myself in three places. I can see myself on my computer screen, on the flip out screen on my camera, and then on the recording monitor, my camera, like it's, it's kind of trippy. If you looked at this whole setup, it's, it's podcast section. It kind of is. Also I'm in like the lighting that we have you know i haven't this is a little bit different style lighting than i'm accustomed to so it really feels like i'm sitting here like under the light you know almost just like uh under the lights of the recording uh

yeah i mean it really has that vibe it's kind of just a miniature version of what we did have right in the old studio like it's just miniaturized to work in a tiny little desk office at this point. Yeah. So I think we're pretty optimistic about it now, about what we're going to be able to do with this. And in longer term, I think it's going to allow us to do some cooler things that we couldn't even do beforehand, right? Like there's going to be some things available that we haven't done yet uh this week we're not having a guest on but i think we'll do our first guest

soon you know i don't know if it's next week or when it is but that will be something we get to soon now yep yep we just want to make sure that we have like 95 of the kinks worked out here before we throw a guest in and start making either bad episodes or just getting over our head and not being a good spot. But yeah, as of right now, things seem to be going pretty smooth. So if we can keep this going for another week or two, I think we're probably ready to start throwing guests in the mix. Yeah, Big Lee asked if we'd be Zooming in the guests.

That won't necessarily be the plan all the time. We obviously do have some ability. That's one of those things that I was saying we do have the abilities to do now potentially. That will all depend, you know, that might be, that's probably something we try at some point with some people, but you know, for the ease of use for some guests, a phone call like we've always done in the past is still going to be our go-to method, I think. Yeah. If you listen to the show very long, you know, first of all, you know, we're all very grateful for all of our guests. We're not knocking any of them, but I mean, it's not uncommon for guests to have trouble just answering their phone for interviews. So

adding zoom into the mix might not be the best thing for some of our guests. Right. And Big Lee mentioned, you know, depending on if they have a solid streaming setup set up already, you know, someone we're going to have just as a teaser here at some point, relatively soon, we're going to have, just as a teaser here, at some point relatively soon, we're going to have Big Grant from the Strength Co. on again. And he does have a setup like that. So it may be like he could be a good opportunity for us to try something out like that with him when we have him on.

Yes, for sure, for sure. Do you have a can over there at all? I do. I'm actually very thirsty. Do you have a can? I have a can too. So what do you have? I was going to say? I do. I'm actually very thirsty. Do you have a can? I have a can too. So what do you have? I was going to say on the count of three. What if we could have the same can? Yeah, I was just waiting for you to pop up a lime can in front of me.

But is that lemon or limoncello? Lemon. Okay. I'm not a heathen over here. My God. Don't be pulling that limoncello out on me. So I have a Limone LaCroix. And what do you have?

I have the Lime Bubbly. Lime Bubbly. Let me see if I still have a uh limone lacroix and what do you have i have the lime bubbly buble let me see if i still have a crispy crack on this one oh yeah i don't know if you could hear that down in sioux falls but crispy crack oh yep oh how the hell is eddie coming in here with video some people i feel like they know how to beat the system yeah i think you get mole on your name and you just think a different set of rules applies to you yeah so the live streamers just so they know we're not uh typically we're not going to allow you to be in here with the video because this is going to be too distracting for us 20 of you all uh doing god knows what at your computer it would

just be a game of who can distract us the most and we would fail like you guys would win and we would lose that game instantly ah so yeah you're having an old favorite over there right though yep i had to had to make myself feel at home here you know um who is is? Is it Big David that keeps our sparkling water spreadsheet on what we've had? One of the Davids. One of the Davids, yeah. Because this is going to make it kind of confusing going forward on weeks when we have separate cans. Well, we'll get that part settled in too. Yeah.

It still is. We're in a transitionary state right now. That's one of those improvements we'll get as we, like some of the more fundamental things that we get pinned down then we'll be able to start playing with some of the more uh fun stuff to you know have us make sure we have the same can that sort of thing but what do you give your uh it's a fine bubbly limes a four all day every day yeah yeah lemon lacroix it's funny because in my mind like lemonCroix. It's funny because in my mind, like, Lemon LaCroix is a classic 3.5, but it's really not to me.

It's a 4. The Lemon LaCroix, I think, to me is a 4, although it just seems like it's so refreshing. So what's the epitome of a 3.5? A Pompomousse LaCroix? Probably. Like if you looked up 3.5, J.D. Power and the Solstice. That probably is the star of the three and a halves yeah yeah old pample moose you know it actually was funny um chuck i was talking to chuck one day because he doesn't strike me as a lacroix a fizzy water type of guy right he's like oh god those

things are so addicting he's like there's nothing i like more than just waking up in the morning the first thing i do is crack one and just chug it. And I'm like, oh yeah, funny. He's like, no, I'm serious. That's my favorite thing to do in the morning is wake up one and just chug it right away. They're so crisp and cold. I love them. I'll be honest. I'm not a morning LaCroix guy, or I'm not, I don't know if I've ever had a sparkling water before noon. I was going to say my, my, my, say my rule in my head is like noon. Like I just think, no, you can't really start. You can't have LaCroix before noon.

No. It's like a dumb unofficial rule, but it's kind of like my rule. It's like, hey, you don't really drink coffee after like, what's your coffee? You're like, I'm not going to drink coffee after three o'clock unless I think there's something I need to be awake for. Right. Yeah. Morning sparkling water is an odd thing. I think that that's wrong to do i'm sure it's wrong well big keys is saying though that bubbly does have there is the caffeine ones so i could see

how you could maybe make yeah but even then i don't i wouldn't want to do it before like 10 if i feel like i need the caffeine i think i'd try and wait until 10 before i get my caffeinated sparkling water in right um tommy do you know we haven't talked a single thing about anything on our list yet that's how much stuff we haven't talked a single thing about anything on our list yet? That's how much stuff we haven't talked about. Have we actually not talked about anything? We have actually not talked about, I don't think, anything on the list. That must mean, yep, I'm looking at the list right now.

Man, wow. Okay. So I think that's a good sign. We're becoming comfortable with our surroundings, right? Yeah. And one of our feature topics of today is going to be an update on the 2023 massonomics lift hard live easy classic power lifting meet in western northeast south dakota but we're going to save that for maybe the second half maybe we'll kick off our uh supporting

members here before that so that they have a uh that they're left in a lurch here of what's going to happen that they can't listen till mond Monday to find out our update on the meet. And boy, let's just say there are some power moves happening there. There is big moves happening, but we better save that for now. So some of the other stuff we've talked about, what do we want to dive into here? We have, of course, our much-anticipated Olympia rundown. I mean, what people come to rely on us for every year

to take on the Olympia. So we should probably talk about that. Should we dive right into that one? Yeah, let's. All right. Yeah, we're almost 30 minutes in. It's a little early, but I suppose we could dive in. We could dive right in.

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, we've hit the time here. So the Olympia had happened. That's bullet point number one. What we need to discuss is that it did, in fact, happen this this past weekend. Can confirm. I did. I'm pretty sure it's in Las Vegas.

Yes, I believe you're correct there, too. It feels like more and more that they're trying to kind of make it an Arnold kind of thing. And I get they are very, very similar in a lot of respects. But there there was some other thing well okay i'm getting ahead of myself i'm getting ahead of myself let's talk about the competition old cart before the horse says i am i am i'm again i'm riding um uh one ass on two horses again right that's right i just can't can't keep my asses and my horses straight i'm getting my numbers all mixed up um but the the main thing is the bodybuilding, right?

Isn't that what everyone's there for? Yeah. I think the old phrase, as they say, everybody want to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanted to lift no heavy ass weight. But these guys do though. They, they do it better than anyone else in the world. You could say. And yeah, we have just like a series of random takeaways from the event as we've seen.

This is going to be the most, the event as we've seen this is gonna be the most uh the worst cliff noted version of this thing that they ever that's what we're known for on the olympia rundown is our awful olympia rundown each year though because we know so little about bodybuilding not knowing any of the names and then even the names that we have in front of us we don't know how to say any of them either it's really at this point the tradition of it is the only reason that we even do this is just that like we started doing this and like it would seem afterwards. It was like, why do we don't even know anything about that? And like now we just have to do it each year.

Because at one point it was like, oh, there was like something kind of somewhat newsworthy in the strength training space. That's our job to discuss that. And I think we'd even prep a tiny little bit. Now it's like, no, no, no, we're not prepping for this at all. Like pull up, pull up an article and we can read off so yeah the olympia winner haddy chupan i'm probably saying that wrong i have you ever heard that name before this weekend well i've definitely not heard it said out loud because i don't know how to say it i feel like i've maybe seen the name before

um but then when i look at the guy i'm like i don't i don't recognize him like that's he is not recognizable to me no and to be fair a lot of bodybuilders aren't super recognizable because they all just are massive especially when they're on stage um they're just hard to tell apart but yeah i he did not uh ring a bell i'm actually you know okay that's his name but the bigger question is what's his nickname well i literally the whole time we're talking here all i'm thinking is my biggest takeaway from the 2022 olympia is the horseshit nicknames no good freaking nicknames my favorite part about the olympia and the bodybuilding is the sick nicknames that these guys have so no gift no no blade. No shadow. Yeah. Okay, the only one that's iconic to me in the nickname is Big Ramy, right?

Mm-hmm. And what did he get, fifth? He got fifth, yep. Yeah. I'd say that's outside the podium. So, I mean, I give it like a D in the nickname scale this year on 2022. Yeah, that's... Well, classic physique winner, though, was Chris Bumstead, old C-Bum.

So I think, you know, people may be known by C-Bum, but is C-Bum that... It's no blade or gift. Yeah, that doesn't really feel like a true nickname. Like, when it's just an abbreviation, I don't know if that's... I don't know if... It doesn't have the same ring to it

as the blade or the gift or anything like that but rounding out the top three in the men's Olympia so we had a Hattie Choupon in first Derek Lunsford in second and Nick Walker in third nope never heard of either one of those he had to get to fourth Brandon Curry I have heard of Brandon Curry yes um and then yeah Yes. And then, yeah, Big Ramy in fifth. But I do not know. William Bonick, I think he was at the first Olympia. The first Arnold we went to. I think he was.

Yeah. I think he got maybe top three there, actually. Well, so what was the prize winning? How much money did the. So first place wins 400 grand. That's a shit pot of winnings. It is, but it drops off pretty fast from that let me find the 400 then 150 then 100 but so even in third place you're getting 100 grand yeah that's not 100

grand is pretty significant yeah i mean obviously 100 grand is freaking significant i mean that's i'm not saying anything going out on a limb there i think for most people up but they'd be like yeah i'll take a hundred grand like yeah all you got to do is like work out harder than anyone else in the entire world, devote your entire life to the most insane diet. And then also commit to taking the craziest drug regimen. That's all you got to do to make a hundred grand. Like, yeah, I'm still not sure that's enough, honestly, but no, probably not to me. I guess it is for somebody, but 400 grand, if you could guarantee to get that every year, I mean,

it's probably, I don't know if it's worth the trade off for me. Still, it could given a few of those factors, but like, at least that's paying you something. That's like, okay,

that's a lot, you know, that's, yeah, you can, you could like, oh man, you could,

uh, I don't know. You could lease like a whole fleet of, um, I don't know. Here, here's an interesting question if you got an unexpected four hundred thousand dollars tomorrow what would you do if anything what would you do in terms of what you what would you or would you not do I actually know well I would first probably nervously think about it for a month straight every day, all day.

Like, so you do nothing at first. Yeah. Oh yeah. I would, I mean, if I did anything, it'd be, I'd go make a bunch of like dumb, like a hundred dollar purchases, like of things that are not, I'm not a consequence. Buy a new pair of shoes. Yes. Like I would just like, all right, here's like 10 shoes I have on a list of shoes that I think would be cool to buy sometime.

And that's like, oh, that's something I'll treat myself with over the next couple of years. Exactly. But I'll just do all of those right now. But so that'd be the first thing. And then so the 99.999% of the money, I would just nervously think about what to do with it for the next month. I wouldn't touch it or do anything. And then honestly, at this point in my life, it's really hard to say it'd be a toss up between because I am renting a house right now, 400 grand all of a sudden covers a lot of house in South Dakota. So I would probably be rolling a lot of that into a house. Right. But I have just wanted I've been really into cars like the last year or two.

So would you probably like 50 grand of it that goes towards a car? What would your car budget be if you could talk to yourself? that's see that's a tough thing too because it's also there is something to like oh if i'm gonna buy like my first fun car it still is something to like keep the expectations low so you have something to grow into over time so right i don't know i'd maybe put maybe set aside like 25 or 30 for like a fun car yeah i don't know if i'd go crazy like you'd buy a used uh i'd probably go i've told you i've kind of like said i wanted a C5 Corvette for a long time. I'd probably do that. Like 20 grand, you can get a decent one.

And I'd probably set that money aside if I had 400 grand hit my bank account. That's completely unexpected. You know, like then you could kind of feel guilt free because you're like, well, I spent 20 grand on that. Maybe another five grand on other just piddly crap. And then so I still have. Well, and I'm saying this is after you get 400 grand. I know that that's not reality here, but in this particular situation or most, but that's probably what I do though.

What about you? Oh, you weren't ready to say back on you, right? It's yeah. It's odd to say. And I mean, you'd, you would agree with this. I think too. It's not, it's not a life-changing amount of like i mean i'm not saying that from like a point of arrogance i'm just saying like from pure reality it's kind of

not a life-changing amount of money for me because i wouldn't change because i would not change my life at all you have a banging house like you're not gonna go sell your house like i'm not gonna i'm buying a new house i um it would be well more than enough I could pay my house off. That's not actually, in today's market, a smart choice. No. But I would be tempted to do it. You know, with my, someone's big chiggy said, buy a pair of lift shorts.

Like, yeah, we could finally afford to, like, own some of that lift short inventory that we keep around here, I suppose. that we keep around here, I suppose. I would, this is like a stereotypical sports athlete thing, but I would probably buy my mom a new house. Yeah. You know, and not like a, not a $400,000 house, but like, or not a house even, just like a, you know,

not a full up blown house, but like, what is it called what you're living in right now like what oh like a town home yeah yeah like a place because she doesn't live in the same town as you right like i'd move her into yeah i would maybe yeah something like that i would you know i'd spend half of it on that and then i as far as little things i don't know if i would even like you know you say a few hundred dollar items i don't think i'd buy anything no you'd have to do this you'd have to get that pair of shaknosis i honestly was just thinking i could maybe buy the shaknosis i don't think i would do it because i could buy like i've thought so many times and looked at buying the shaknosis and every time i get to it i'm like i could just keep that money. And like, even if there was, you know, if I had an extra 400,000, say I spent, uh, half of it on, uh, uh, towards something for my mother. And then I had an extra 200. I don't, I don't know if I could make myself by the check gnosis.

Like, I know that that sounds absolutely insane and maybe I would just do it for the sake of like, okay, here's this one thing I don't need that I got. Uh, you know, like I'm pretty good on vehicles. Like we're thinking about upgrading my wife's vehicle anyways. So maybe I would just go ahead and do that. I probably going to do that anyways soon, but, um, I guess we'd put, I guess I'd pull the trigger on that's I'd pull the trigger on that, like something I'm going to probably do anyways. I would just be like, okay, now we're definitely doing it. And now that you've talked, I've already thinking and this is this is once i mean i would consider like seriously put some real thought into 400 grand is a lot of money you could really make a real run at a satellite satellite massonomics gym location in sioux falls like that would be the amount of money that you

could really like make some make a splash with that um that would be the amount of money that you could really like make some, make a splash with that. Um, that would be something that would cross my mind at that point. That's true. That's true. So gym stuff, I really wasn't thinking about gym stuff. Although it's funny. I kinda, we kinda have bought like, like my gym wishlist is so small. I would maybe go to a Big Keith supporting member and say, hey, what's your price on those roundhead York dumbbells? There you go. I would like to have those.

Although he's typing now. He'll probably say, no, no, there isn't a price. Yeah, he'll say, screw you, man. Someone asked about the over-dead body. $400,000, that'd be the price. Someone said, well, I would pay in your house, be a bad idea. Just to elaborate on that a little bit. In Tanner's situation. Yeah. So my interest rate is so low that- It's essentially free money. Right. Exactly. So that's the thought. Although with my reasoning in my head, I'm very debt averse. So I would would still be tempted to be frank even though it's maybe not the smartest decision it's maybe not the the smartest

decision i still don't think it's a stupid decision i don't think you can go wrong doing that yeah uh just to just to be more clear on that like it's probably what you know it'd still be what i lean towards doing i don't think it's dumb to do it from my point of view. It's just that other people could justify how you could turn your money into more money alternatively and come out more ahead in the long run. Yeah. And I mean, there's also investing, you know, you could kind of, supposedly we're, we're in the dip or going to be in the dip. You could buy the dip hard and then cash out later right yes step five profit profit hard okay so this is our olympia rundown

i was like trying to figure out what are we talking about yeah i'm glad i had this tab open because i would have no idea how we got there so uh all right so that was that was the the big boys now what's probably more noteworthy than the big boys was the 212 Olympia results. This is my favorite part. Do they... Is the name 212? Do they use lightweights and heavyweights? Like, what name do they go with there in bodybuilding for the lighter guys?

Is it just 212? I think you say the 212. Yeah, I think that that's what they say. Like, what division are you in? You're like, yeah, I'm in the 212s. But if you were... I think it might as well also be called,, what division are you in? You're like, yeah, I'm in the 212s. But if you were on... I think it might as well also be called, like, under 5'5". Oh, God, yeah.

Yeah. Division. And if you spent any time on Instagram or the internet in this past week, you probably saw the very meme-worthy image of someone decided it would be a good idea to have Brian Shaw hand out the awards to these guys. And it looks like someone's dad that likes to lift weights is handing out awards to little children. It is looks like when you go, you're walking with your kids and they stand in between the two parents and you hold up their

arms and swing them. That is exactly what it looks like. And it's just so absurd. Like, and then it doesn't help that Brian Shaw's wearing a suit. So, of course, it has to be cut like a box to fit in, you know. So that just adds to the absurdity of it all. But those images, I actually thought for the first time. They shouldn't have done that. They shouldn't have had him do that. They shouldn't have.

That was a dumb idea. And I did think the first time I saw those that those were fake. I thought there's no way these are a real image. And let me be clear, I'm glad they did it. That was hilarious. Someone there should drop the ball. I think though that like for their sake, but yeah, it's just a, it's just people are laughing, are getting too much enjoyment out of it for the wrong reasons. Right, right.

Yeah. The bodybuilders are being laughed at sort of in that situation, I think, you know? Yeah. Cause you're just like, oh, look, these guys are enormous, but they're so tiny. Yeah. That's not what, that's not the takeaway you want to get right bodybuilding show ever no uh so yeah check out those photos if you haven't seen those at all and then really rounding out our our competition coverage here when we get to the classic physique which i think is really picking up a lot of steam as far as popularity goes among people. Yeah, and what's the logic behind that?

I suppose the look of the full-on bodybuilders is very unrelatable to everyone. But to be fair, the classic physique look is not realistic for anyone either. I think it ties into more of the desirability. If people look at these guys and say like, oh, if I could have my dream physique, I think it's getting to be fewer and fewer people every year would pick the top Olympia guys and more and more people identify with, oh yeah, my dream physique would be in that classic physique.

Everyone loves this Bumstead guy, right? I mean, like he's super popular. Sebum, yeah. I don't know that much about him. I just, you just you know kind of do i'm peripherally aware of his name and he's the only name i even recognize in the group and i know i've heard him but i just i i don't know much about him at all other than i think he's what a five four or five time winner of this now i assume at this point it's very much in everyone's best interest for him to win. Mm-hmm. Right?

Like, as the face of this. Yeah, to have the big-name people winning, like, it always looks better, right? Yeah. So that pretty much rounds up our competition coverage. Oh, he's Canadian. There was also men's physique, wheelchair Olympia, Miss Olympia, fitness Olympiaia figure olympia bikini women's physique uh wellness like i don't know i have no difference with any of those things like i have no idea what those are i mean i i hardly can i mean i don't even keep up with the men's side so i have a guess of what the one that's called wheelchair is just a guess i mean it's just a guess i'm not positive what that one

is but i kind of feel like i might know what that one's about yeah i have a feeling i have a feeling you're probably right there but again i haven't seen it so i can't say for sure if you're right or not yeah uh other other things takeaways from the olympia okay i saw a lot of footage of rhino cage right the rhino cage that's that was the if you your instagram feeds look a little like tommy or not or eyes do what you would have noticed from the week for sure is the rhino it was called the rhino cage or the same i think it was yeah there was no cage to be fair That obviously is a la the animal cage from Arnold. Yeah, heavily inspired by. Yeah.

And there was a whole bunch of the usual suspects that we all have come to know and love over the years all lifting there, right? There was. A whole bevy of past podcast guests, I think, actually. There was. But you know what my big takeaway from it was? Is looking at that, maybe we had the wrong angles,

but the crowd was non-existent for that, right? It didn't look like anything. It certainly didn't look like the Arnold, did it? It looked nothing like the Arnold. Even the Strength Co. last second at the Arnold this year threw together a significantly bigger crowd than that. And I don't know if that's a, hey, that's the Olympia, not that many people go to it.

I've never been there. I don't know. I'd imagine there's thousands of people that go, but it's still got to be much smaller than the Arnold. But I was just shocked at how few people there were actually watching this thing. It kind of, did it give you the feeling of justification? Like, yeah,

we're not missing out by not like having a booth there. That's what it felt like to me. Like, and to be clear here, I'm talking about the expo part of the Olympia, not, you know, the competitors on the main stage for the,

for the men's. I have no idea what that's like, but as far as the expo goes, there just didn't really seem like there was people in the background at all, which I would have been hyped if the background was like popping and there was a ton of people. We would be having a conversation right now saying, oh, that looks so crazy. We need what do we need to do? Yeah, exactly.

But that was not my takeaway from that at all. Then there's a bunch of people I recognize, but then there's no one there to watch them. Yeah, I do think I mean, historically, the Olympia Expo is not, you know, remotely the Arnold Expo. So it's not surprising. You know, I just don't think that the Arnold, I mean, what is the biggest part in your eyes? What is the biggest part of the Arnold? Well, to me, we're a little biased, but it's the, I think it's the Expo.

Yeah. Like even like, I think if people, you know, there's some, and that's amongst some enormous competitions going on there because you can make a case for the pro strongman show being the biggest thing. You could obviously make a case for the bodybuilding show to be the biggest thing. But you have to be really into one of those things to say that they're big. People that go to the Arnold even go to that grand ball Arnold. Yeah, spend like $80 to go in there.

I would say everyone should do it once but there's a good chance after you do it once you're probably like yeah that was good enough for me and to be honest i kind of was falling asleep at the time that we went to it so man especially when it wasn't the strongman part it got uh and to say when i was kind of falling asleep like i was like falling asleep i may have even dozed off at times because it's so dark and quiet in there and it's after really long days of getting to finally sit down. You're like oh it's so dark and quiet in here

and cool. Anything else on the I think that was everything from the Olympia. Yeah I just saw just traces of the of the expo, but it just looked like a much smaller ordeal than what I even imagined. And then, of course, didn't keep up enough on,

actually kept up just enough on the competition to give people that outstanding coverage we just provided. Yeah. How do you feel about me hitting us all with a little supporting our supporting members? Yeah, I'd love that. Okay, I'm going to do that then. What was, I thought I saw someone in here

mention that someone else, oh, okay. Supporting our supporting members is a relatively newer segment to the Massonomics podcast. And what it is is we have these supporting members that pay us a little bit each month to be in the supporting member crew, as we've dubbed it. And they get a bunch of perks back. It kind of is Perk City population, all supporting members. They get things like to watch the podcast live like they are now, and they kind of get to interact with the live podcast. You know, they're typing things that we're looking at. It's

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good towards everything that we sell, except for it's maybe not good towards additional supporting memberships. You can't use the discount code to get cheaper additional supporting memberships, you can't use the discount for that yeah besides that cheaper additional supporting memberships which is a funny thought uh and then part of one of the other perks is we have this segment where we give back to a few of them a few of them each week so uh first thing big tyler his birthday was today so happy birthday freaking birthday yeah big canadian tyler, our neighbor to the south down there,

probably experiencing some of this, probably some weather he's been having down there. It's probably on his way to him right now. It's still getting there. Then Big Chiggy, who I saw was listening along live, he was getting chiggy with it tonight. He had his jug AI meet and in his jug AI mock

meet he had a 550 squat excellent squat a 420 bench hashtag blaze it yeah and a 530 dead for 1500 even total that's nice 1500 1500 that just that just makes you feel real good when you get done doesn't it

1500 hit that just makes you feel real good when you get done, doesn't it? Yep, 1500, hit that one. And then Big Big Daniel, there was a correction. We had him on supporting our supporting members last week. They thought it was a 45-pound bar. They were giving out the numbers as if it was a 45-pound bar. They forgot to add in that it was a 55-pound bar in the meet, so everyone totaled 10 more pounds than what they thought so it actually made his squat it was like 590 it made it a 600 pound squat

something like that so that's kind of a good bonus at the end where you're like yeah but then if you're the guy that missed his third attempt you're like yeah sorry we had 10 extra pounds on here yeah yeah oh that's um that's kind, though, because how much people know about equipment that someone wouldn't. Well, I guess, but if you think, if you just assume everyone's got it right, then that. Well, and what's the software that most people are using now? I mean, is it like OpenLifter? Yeah. Didn't you kind of make some of OpenLifter?

I designed pretty much the whole interface for it. So if you have a meat running that. Humble brag. It was pretty much concocted by yours truly here. here i mean i didn't do any of the coding or anything i just said like right hey i helped him out and said hey guys like well you just did the important shit yeah i just did the stuff you look at besides that yeah i didn't do anything besides handle that handle the nerd stuff yeah just everything you look at was me that's all I did. Yeah. Then last one, of course, not least, giving direct credit for this. I was thinking, well, this wasn't really in supporting our supporting members yet,

but Big Nate created Massanomics.bingo, and that needs to be in officially supporting our supporting members on record. So if you haven't been playing along this week with Massanomics.bingo, shame on you. Also, now open it, and week with Massanomics Bingo, shame on you. Also, now open it, and it's massanomics.bingo is the URL, the website address for that, massanomics.bingo. You can play along. What did he say? It's actually your bingo card will be refreshed each Monday morning.

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Maybe we should each throw a freebie their way right now. What's a catchphrase you would like to put out there? Bring locked and loaded bring in the heat. I don't know if that's on the bingo card, but it is like the classical catchphrases you would like to put out there? Locked and loaded, bring in the heat. I don't know if that's on the bingo card, but it is like the classical catchphrases of ours. It is, and I still just laugh every time I see Chris. What's his name?

So there's a couple bingo cards. Big Grant told me he was playing along this week because he's listening, and he's like, I love massonomics.bingo. He's like, I almost couldn't really concentrate on what was being said because I was so specifically listening to what is being, you know,

referencing my bingo card. He was too in the zone. He was playing the game. He wasn't here for fun. He was playing. Just scratch what I was saying there. I don't know what I was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So thanks, Big Nate, for getting that. And thank you to all our supporting members. We really appreciate each and every one of you. That's about it, right? Yeah. Supporting our supporting members. Should I hit them with a little something here? Or should I hit? We a little something here? We can, but I wanted to say something first.

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Okay. Just for the sake of making them have to wait. This is our dress rehearsal, right? Right. And while we're doing that, I've loaded a couple buttons here. You know, I was talking about having more buttons, and I just want to, for the sake of me getting to press some buttons, I want to press another button and see what I've got here.

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So it's funny because the booting off process now that our live stream is on Zoom is slightly different than it's been in the past. So I could see you kicking them out one by one because now it's more of a one by one process. The good part about this live stream feature is we're really, is there a limitation of how many can get in here? I don't think it's anything we'd ever hit. I think Zoom, it's like a thousand people with the plan on it,

something like that. And before we were at like limited at like 25. Yeah, Discord did limit it out at 25. Yeah, so that's a plus, but it's also funny. I can see them getting kicked out one by one. It is funny though. I admittedly don't use zoom very often. So I'm by no means a zoom power user,

but when I do kick them out at each person asked me if I want to report that user to zoom. So naturally I reported every single one of them. So yes, none of them will be here anymore. All right. Let's see. Got to see what we're kicking off to now. Well, I've talked about our feature presentation being an update on the meet, right?

Do we want to talk about that now? We've been recording for quite a while already. We have an hour. It's kind of shocking. Oh, we have one. What? We had one. Well, we had two tiny things in here.

Do we need to go through those or can we save those for later i wonder if we should save those okay we'll just save them so we're that they're like super not relevant then right well anything from this episode is already two weeks behind and then we'll just save it so it's like a full month behind that's that's another good point too is uh is historically, you know, for the last, I don't know, 100, 200 episodes, we kind of do this process where we record and maybe, what do you say, five days later, the episode gets published. It's always 90% of the time it's record on a Wednesday, release on Sunday night, Monday morning. Yeah, so five days. Right now, we've got an extra week tacked onto that because of these changes we just wanted extra buffer at one point in time there

and at some point we'll probably utilize taking a week off and then get to where we are just like 5 days out again instead of 12 days so that things are maybe a little more timely as you hear them but with us getting more familiar with

everything we're doing it's nice having that. A little buffer is appreciated for sure. But son of a bitch, this is working so much better than last week. It is. It is. I'm so relieved right now just talking in real time. It's very funny because we were talking about that, and then there was, I don't know, was it around like the 20-minute mark?

Yeah. It was like eight. I don't know why. There was like a five-second glitch in there. But outside of that, yeah minute mark? It was like eight. I don't know why there was like a five second glitch in there, but outside of that, yeah, this has just felt like a regular ass podcast. Like,

yeah, if we have one, five, yeah, if we have one, uh, one five second glitchy episode, that's totally not a big deal.

You know, like that's, I can live with that. I think that, I think the listeners can probably live with that too. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the meat though.

The mass dynamics meet meat bring in the meat we well we're an hour and now we can officially dive in dive right into this yeah so the the real thing is i don't think prior to this week i said it already on this episode but i don't know if we had the official meat name yet have have we like when we recorded have we had the meat name or maybe we did i think we did i think we just decided i don't know i'm not sure if we even announced it last week though. Okay. But it is the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic hosted right here in

sunny, beautiful Aberdeen, South Dakota, western northeast South Dakota. July 22nd. It's a Saturday one day event. USPA sanctioned untested meat and none of this that I've said so far is new information.

If you've been listening to the podcast, that's all recapping. But what's new to it is we did open registration for it. And to be frank about that, we did open it first to gym members and Massonomics gym members and Massonomics podcast supporting members. Just another benefit right there. That's exactly right. It is a benefit. This is a real-life benefit right here to being supporting members

because what's happening, what we're experiencing is, I'd say when we started really talking about this meat thing, we weren't positive what the turnout was going to be. I guess we were fairly confident we'd get the people to want to do it. You know, there'd be enough, but I don't know that I knew it was going to be what it turned into of people wanting to get signed up for this. Like, I don't think that was my expectation. I think at the very beginning we'd said like, Oh, you know, we probably thought we could get, I don't know if we're lucky five or 10 guys from the gym. And if we were really lucky five or 10 people from the discord would collectively show up.

So we thought if things go great, maybe like 20 ish people that we directly know would, would sign up for this thing. Yeah. And boy, were we wrong? Yeah. So the first,

we originally opened to 45 slots. Those filled up before even advertising it to any general public, just gym and discord. People filled up those first 45 slots in less than 48 hours of it going live. That was filled up. So then next thing was open up a waiting list. If they got 15, they'd let 15 more in,

in a hard cap of 60. And we're there now. The official last 15 that have been made it as we're recording. It hasn't been, I don't, we don't know that who they are exactly, but by the time this comes out, that'll,

that'll be out there for sure. But then there will be a waiting list beyond the 60 because the way power lifting works, some people will get hurt or whatever, you know, maybe there'll be a conflict. They won't be able to do it. So there probably will be a few people that stick on that 60 beyond 60 waiting list that will get a

shot to sign up for it later in the year if they still want to, you know, so it's worth being on the waiting list. Even now, as you're listening to it, you're like, damn it, I should have done it. Still email Dave, big Dave from North Dakota is the meet director. DM us if you need his email or his information, or go to USPA and look at the events and scroll down to July 22nd. You'll see the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic is on there and Dave's email. And get him emailed and get on the waiting list if you want to, because you could still get on there potentially. And we want to see how much of a demand there is.

So, you know, say we do this again, then we know we could potentially make this a two-platform bonanza. Like, you know, we could blow it wide open next year if we feel like that that's... And when you say next year, you mean like a year? Yeah, or maybe six months. Maybe we'll do two a year. You know, it's like anything's

possible at this point so that is yeah and that's what that we're definitely are keeping that mindset like hey this is our first thing it's a learning experience we're gonna do everything we can to make this thing awesome but yeah if people are showing like there's a demand for this and people enjoy it like we have no problem like going all in and like making this thing crazy like a bigger venue more platforms like more everything and it's not to say this year won't be crazy it's just that work it is a hard cap at 60 so no matter even if 200 people want in we're just sticking to 60 that's just kind of a decision we made and the venue that we have that's kind of what it can support in our opinion you know if we go bigger we need to go to a different venue for the next one. But we can support the 60 that we're working with at this venue.

And speaking of the venue, so it's in the American Convention Center. And it is something that was kind of essential to us. It is attached to a bar. So that's a cool part that fits in with us, right? That was almost a deal breaker for us if the venue venue did not have like alcohol and beer readily available on site right because it is it really is well in our process of even thinking of what the name for it is we threw around a lot of ideas and when we come back to lift hard live easy it's like that's what we want the meat to be like it's hard to not name it that because that is such an accurate description

of how we envision this meat. Don't you think a hundred percent? Well, and then when you factor in that, we have so many people traveling from far away that yes, are showing up to lift hard, but some of them might even say that the more important part is the living easy for the, everything around it. And there's going to be a ton of that. So that, that is what gets us so excited for this. Right. And I, our plant, and i our plan we our plan is uh you know the bar will be attached and maybe that'll open at like noon or whenever we tell them to open it probably but then also i think about the time that deadlift starts that's when we would bring out you know the free keg yeah the keg rolls out whatever yeah and the party really really kicks off Yeah, because we have the convention center all night,

so we can roll from the meet to the after party somewhat seamlessly. I think like when we're waiting for awards and stuff like that, that's the start of the party. And I don't know, it'd be nice to have food there. We don't know exactly what that looks like yet. You know, there's food trucks in town and other people like that. We could, you know, I'm not saying that we're going to provide a whole pile of free food for 200 people, but like just have food options there for people so that they don't feel like they have to leave and come back

or, you know, just to have some options there. So I think that's the general vibe and maybe a little bit of rearranging post-meet so that it feels more like a hang bit of rearranging post meet so that it feels more like a hangout space than a meat right like the disco ball smoke machines that right stuff right right yeah that's the classic party scene like move the platform we gotta put a dance floor down here um i'm extremely excited for it like it like, but it's my favorite thing to talk about right now. Oh, honestly,

like I just want to talk about it with everyone. I, I do actually tell my wife about it. And I sometimes think that she's like, I can't tell if you're being serious with things you're saying right now, because every time I bring it up, it's just getting more elaborate and bigger and bigger and bigger. And we're still like eight months out,

you know? Well, that's the kicker. That's the kicker to me is how far away it is that I'm like, I have to reel it back, dial it back just a little bit because it is so far away. Like that is kind of a sad part.

It kind of kills me how far away it is now because I really want it to be next month. I do too. And then you're like, oh no, a lot's going to happen. Like we're going to go to Arnold again. Yeah. There's a whole spring. Basically almost all of summer happens

and then it's this thing yeah i do think it's going to be a big deal for us though you know for the mass i'm branded it is maybe one of the next big things that we can get into is like doing this like an annual party for everyone that's uh uh feels like a part of massonomics in whatever capacity if you're able to get to this that is like the it's going down yeah yeah and like obviously not everyone can get to it and stuff but that's why if it goes well we can do it again and it's like yeah you get your chance again this next time yep and you could walk in and be like i've never seen any of these people in person but i'm also best friends with all of them all yeah yeah so of of note honestly everyone

is of note to me because i know everyone almost that signed up to do this so that's cool uh people that may be getting excited about quote-unquote big lifters well the biggest one is is confirmed he's doing it uh Dan Bell is, uh, says he's competing in the meat, which is awesome. Like I'm happy if he just shows up. Yeah. When you said that,

I kind of thought you were lying at first. Like I really did not believe it, that Dan Bell would be coming to this meat, but, and he, even if, uh, whatever, something changes,

he decided he doesn't want to do it. He just wants to hang out either way. That's super cool. Um, you know, and so because he's doing it, then, you know,

Jonathan Oldham was already planning on coming, but then he's like, well, I should probably just do it too. He can't watch everyone else have fun. He can't not do it. So he's signed up now and then kind of caught us off guard. Lindsay loves to lift, signed up. Her last name, I think, is like gray or something like that but i think everyone knows like if you on instagram you follow her by her instagram handle and uh she's also from

florida like dan and she is uh signed up to lift and you know she is extremely competitive for her uh like she's squatting 400 plus dead lifting 400 plus benching 200 pounds and weighs like one 35 or something like that. So that's pretty crazy. And it just is going to be fun. The all those people, the three of those, for example, big,

very strong, very competitive lifters, but also three people that obviously like to have fun. So that's why it fits in. Like, I don't have anyone in mind, that obviously like to have fun. So that's why it fits in. Yep, totally. I don't have anyone in mind, but someone that's extremely strong

and that maybe isn't known for, you know, that wouldn't like to go to a party of this sort. Right. Like it wouldn't be as exciting for them to come, honestly. It just doesn't fit their vibe as much. Right. Exactly. Right, so it really does fit the vibe.

But just like the mix of, there'll be a bunch of people who it's their first meet, but they're just big into the massonomic scene and want to come do the hangout. And then Dan Bell will also be there, you know, doing it. It's just a wild thought. We were even saying like, there's a good chance. I guess you've seen the list, so you know better than me,

but there's a good chance like you could be, there's going to be a guy in a flight and you'll have your weight and you'll be the heaviest guy. And then the next bar there's going to be a guy in a flight and you'll have your weight and you'll be the heaviest guy and then the next bar weight is going to be many hundreds of pounds heavier than whatever you did because dan is the one following you up right well no matter what when it goes to dan well i suppose if jonathan's in there you know there's a right but like it's not you know i mean it's totally 100 respectable that like in a in a heavyweight fight for men that the last deadlift is somewhere in the 700 pounds. It's like, well, you did that.

But then also now they're going to have to like load the bar many hundreds pounds heavier for the last guy. Yeah. What else about it? There's just a lot of stuff that we have in the works now that a lot of it hasn't materialized yet, but potentially could be a live stream of the event, which isn't something we were, you know, had planned out that much, but I think that could definitely happen.

I think we, we will have a variety of cool vendors there. Yep. You know, some people that are really wanting to get in as sponsors. I think we really pictured this as the massonomics meet, you know, the sponsor of this meet is massonomics like

but there may be some some of our inner circle spot you know people companies that just really want to get involved in it like frank from lift evil was talking about wanting to come and do it you know uh grant was probably be here but also talking about maybe even like does he do the meat too it's so it's kind of this funny thing all the people want to come but then they're also like was probably be here, but also talking about maybe even like, does he do the meat too? It's so it's, it's kind of this funny thing. All the people want to come, but then they're also like,

well, maybe I should just do it if I'm there too. You know? Yes. Cause it has this vibe of how fun it's going to be that nobody wants to miss. You're like, Oh, well,

like all that, they're all doing it. I want to do it. You know, like how many times can you say you've done a meet with like 50 plus other people? You know, like that's such a rarity.

I know. Outside of like. Right, right. On top of that, that you like. Yeah. If you're a big name person, you've done big name meets, but there's a good chance you probably don't like most of the people in it. Where here, like you probably do like all the people in it and you know all of them too. I'm glad that there's obviously that we're finding out there's a demand for this because

this really is i think shaping up to be a very massonomics meet where absolutely because that's what we were a little scared of at first it's like is it going to be the thing where it's like well 10 or 20 people we know and then it's 40 randoms and it would still be fun but it just doesn't have the same vibe to it as if it like everyone's on the same massonomics page. Right. Right. Ah, it's going to be real damn fun. It is.

It's going to be an awesome weekend. Like no doubt about that. The killer for us was, is, you know, if we don't do it though, that that's, that's just as,

that's just, I know. And this is like the first year, maybe we have to sit up the first year, maybe not. But then like the second year, you know, and we know how things go and they're smoother. Like that opens up to like all right yep we can totally do

it then yes um anything else that we need to hit on as far as the meat goes as of yet uh um i don't i mean it is like a work in progress like things are always changing um yeah if you think you have any desire to get in shoot dave that email chances are you're not going to get in at this point but you never know something drops out plans change maybe you can pop up on the list and get your spot but it's going to be a ton of fun like it's going to be a blast the whole weekend yeah yeah yeah that's kind of the thing too it will kind of with so many people traveling in, it will be like, I know it's one, the meet is one day,

but in my eyes, especially for us being the hosts, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is just going to be a wild trip of, you know, just because there's so many people to hang out with. Like it does. It's going to sort of feel like that high school reunion thing where it's like, yeah i think i know you but do i know you again and actually it's it's the arnold thing all over again okay what's your what's your name the discord or what's your instagram handle is your profile picture that okay yep yep i got you now my other thing is i don't know if we talked about this in on the podcast or just in person otherwise but um i would kind of relate

it to the feeling of your wedding day too where you have uh so many people there that you like and want to talk to and stuff and you're in this wild whirlwind of an of a day and you get to the end of it and you're like i don't feel like i talked to anyone like i don't feel like i got to hang out with any of the equally among 100 plus people which makes no time for anyone right so uh you know that's a good problem to have it means you know you're having a blast and the day is just flying by and it's it's cool but i i'm guess i'm kind of predicting it to feel like that i i think that'll be a very accurate representation of how it's going to be when it's all said and done. Yeah.

Just pumped about that. Yeah. As it gets closer, it's only going to get more exciting, too. Yeah. You know what else is exciting? What? A little game we like to play called Has He Seen It? Do you want to play Has He Seen It this week?

I do. I'm actually starting to feel pretty confident in myself now. You know, I've been hitting some good numbers these last few weeks and i think you called out this year in the past and boy are you right 1999 that's the year we're playing this year oh my god a year for movies oh my god the movies in 1999 so i'm not saying they don't make them like they used to well i knocked a bunch off the list and then there there's still a bunch I had to keep on the list because I'm like, well, I can't knock all of the... But we're not going to talk about The Matrix.

Yeah, can't say that one. And we're not going to talk about Austin Powers' Spy Who Shagged Me because we always talk about Austin Powers. Can't do that either. That's fair. And then... These are just ones that are not on the list because other ones are on the list. I'm not going to do American Pie

because the list is just too long. And I already know... You've seen American Pie, right? Like, this isn't the game, but okay. Yeah, I think I've seen the first... I mean, was it three that you would say were really, like, the whole casting crew? Was there three of them?

I think so. And then after that, they started to really spiral off in different directions. And then Big Daddy, I also kept off the list. Yeah, that's fair, too. Adam Sandler. We talk a lot of Adam Sandler. Boondock Saints

was also from that year and I didn't have it on the list. I don't know if... That is one I've said before I've never seen. And I left it off the list just because I didn't want the list to be 30 long. That's when I've always felt guilty about never watching that. It seems to be one of those cult classics. So that's not officially

the game, but you probably do need to watch Boondock Saints. I do. I know that. I yeah it's usually one of those cult classics so that's not officially the game but you probably do need to watch boondock saints i do i know that i think it's good but i'm curious i feel like about the time we were in college that was like everyone had a boondock saints poster in their like college house somewhere i'm curious if that still exists now is the cult is the, yeah. Our, if you're 20 years old, do people talk about boondock saints? Yeah. Like they did when we were 20 years old.

Uh huh. Do boondock. Yeah. Do boondock saints posters still exist in college house party houses? Like they did 10, 10 and 15 years ago. Yeah. That's a good question.

Someone, uh, someone let us know if you're of that age, are you ultra aware of boondock saints and do people go out of their way to say how much they like like how much boondock saints resonates with them i think for the record i think boondock saints is good i also think it's kind of overrated by the nature of it okay so we're gonna get into the game here though this first one is a personal favorite of mine,

so it had to be on the list here. How many are we doing here? We're going to do seven. So what do you think you're going to get here? I'm going to go... I want to say five, but do I want to say six? I tried to pick a... I'm going to say five.

I'll tell you, I picked a few. I want to throw a... I just didn't want you getting... Just to be so easy, so I threw a couple. You'll to throw a... I just didn't want you getting just to be so easy, so I threw a couple. You'll know them all, generally speaking. I'm going to say five because there might be a few curveballs in here

just to make the game interesting. Yeah, there's a few curveballs, I think. Okay, I'll go five. Okay. Have you seen it, Varsity Blues? I've never seen all of it, no, because it falls under that sports movie thing, and I just struggle with sports movies.

I know I remember high school football before games on Friday. A couple times, you'd go to, like, guys would get together. You'd go to a guy's house. It'd be on in the background, but I can't honestly say that I've really sat and watched the whole movie. We had, in my college house, we had Varsity Blues on a DVD, and we would watch it every time before we would go out for a few years there.

Like as you're pre-gaming, like as you're doing the sitting around watching TV version of pre-gaming, I probably watched at least part of varsity blues 50 plus times, you know? And I, I don't in this point anymore, I can't even tell you if it's good. It's just so much like, you know, at you know, you've just seen it so much.

A part of who you are. Right, right. That's where I'm at on Varsity Blues. But personal favorite of mine, of course, I don't know. It's just a lot of funny one-liners. I mean, they're one-liners to me because you watch it so many times, you have it memorized, so everything's a one-liner almost. Okay, so that's a no.

This next one one popular movie but to be fair i haven't seen it but maybe you have have you seen it american beauty yes i have actually i have seen this one um yeah it's been a long probably won awards or something yeah i think it won best picture actually i'm not pretty sure um yeah kevin spacey and that one girl whatever her name is um you said cover of that one no i've never seen it is that's the rose petals yes yep that scene is like him uh like fantasizing about like a high school chick or like there's like pretty sure i'm pretty sure it's his daughter's friend i'm pretty sure is what that was so it's been that long since i've seen it curious was it kevin spacey the one that was daydreaming that yes that kind of came full circle on him didn't yeah i did no it did yeah but i yes i have seen american okay one for one or one one out of two we've

seen opposites here yep okay and next one this next one. Okay. Have you seen it? Fight Club. Yeah. That's one. I figured that was a lock. I think when you're like a guy in your teens and early 20s and you watch Fight Club, you're like, oh, my God, this changes everything. I think it's kind of like 300 as like things are different now that I've seen this movie. But yeah, Fight Club. I haven't seen it in a long time. So I'd actually I wouldn't mind watching it again just to see how it does hold up it's wild as i'm thinking about it so in 1999 for good dudes

like us if you're our age or maybe even 10 years older than us in that year it was fight club boondock saints uh the matrix talk about movies where you watch it and you're like oh yeah you know you're like oh that changed me you You're like, oh, that changed me. That's hardcore. I'm not sure if this is on your list, but I'm pretty sure Seven came out in 99 as well. It's, yeah, a lot of bangers. Yeah, so you're two out of three. Next one, more of a curveball-ish, I would say.

Have you seen it, October Sky? No, I have not. Do you know what october sky is i don't think so it's a good movie we watched it in school i think we watched it in physics class no it is uh i think it takes place a little in a little bit uh i have the synopsis here yeah yeah it's like they these kids that they're building rockets is what I kind of remember of it. True story of Homer Hickam, a coal miner's son. Homer H. Hickam, that's what it is. Was inspired by the first Sputnik launch

to take up rocketry against his father's wishes. No, Dad, I will launch that rocket. You can't stop me. I don't care, Dad dad i'm launching that damn rocket i'm gonna launch so many freaking rockets now and the dad's over there like oh dang it no son of mine's gonna be launching rockets i'm gonna hoard freaking rocket fuel so much you're gonna work in the coal mine and die young whether you like it or not boy that's what we do in this southern that's what we do in this west virginia town i'm just making stuff up but or not boy that's what we do in this southern that's what we do in

this west virginia town i'm just making stuff up but i think that that's what it's kind of like i i've never seen the movie but i'm pretty sure that those are actual lines from the movie if i had to think about it so you have not seen october sky no i've never really even heard of it okay two out of four it's a it's a good movie i think it's decent movie okay i picked this one because you made the comment last week or last time we did one that you said if it was saturday night live around that time you've seen it so this one popped out of it i'm like this will put that theory more to the test i think here do you remember molly shannon yep saturday night live so do you remember superstar superstar yep i did see it okay yep um i actually remember a lot of the uh girls girl classmates of mine

above and below i remember all of the girls that movie seemed to resonate with them probably because it was one of the few movies at the time that had a female comedian you know a female being funny in it not just a dude being ridiculous but uh yeah it was it was funny isn't she doesn't she go like to catholic school is that her whole thing she's like this uh how have you seen it i've seen it it's been a really long time ago and it's not like on my list of movies that i'm like oh i have to watch that again you know yeah i'm pretty good molly shannon is super funny she's ridiculous she's good um yeah i i have seen i just man i don't remember much of it but then there's also all the snl skits of it too yeah she's me yeah and i kind of merge it with that but she's maybe one of my more favorite female uh snl um comedians i think of as I think about it. She's good.

Yeah, she's very good. So you've seen it three. So you're at three of five. Two left. Okay. We'll do the one first that I think you're more likely to have seen so that we have more lines in this last one. Yeah, here we go. So have you seen it, wild west oh yeah yeah yeah wild

wild west also a 1999 classic i remember going to that one in the theater and i think i went to that one in the theater yeah i remember thinking damn that big metal spider is kind of creepy actually that one really hit for our age that was a really like age appropriate movie when you're like 10 ish that's that's who that movie is made for people that are about 10 that have a really like age appropriate movie when you're like 10 ish that's that's who that movie is made for people that are about 10 that have a hard time distinguishing between what's real and fake and all that and the thing in the beginning where they had those things on their neck where the saw blades are coming after them they're like magnetic oh that was so crazy yeah but uh the fresh prince of bel-air was really hitting a stride in there i think too oh yeah

yeah particularly with that movie that i would say necessarily he had the soundtrack to go with it i remember seeing the music video on mtv wow wiki wow going straight desperado with with the is it the sample none of this yeah yeah yeah i had a friend that would sing that all the time yeah like all through high school even just because he thought it was so funny ridiculous and there's the south park episode where they're like talking about it like, Jenner Loveless with the big evil spider and the big metal spider, going on and on about it. I can't even remember how that went now,

but I remember Cartman and I was talking about it in that one South Park episode. Okay, so you're four of six, and you guessed five, so it all comes down to this one. Maybe the biggest wild card of the of the week though here we go have you seen it the iron giant yes actually i have uh that's i believe that is one of the last like really hand animated animated cartoon movies that that ever existed uh i did go to that movie actually i went to that movie in Phoenix, Arizona. In 1999.

Yep, 1999. Yep, yep. So you've definitely seen it. Yep, I did see that one. In convincing fashion, you have seen it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I've never seen The Iron Giant. Oh, really?

But I know it has, I know people like it, right? I don't know why that movie is. I think it holds up pretty well. I probably haven't seen it. I probably saw it once after it came out out or after it got out of the theater. But I do think that that movie is somewhat regarded somewhat highly still. I think it is too. Which is why it stuck out to me.

I'm like, why haven't I watched that? Like, I'm probably going to watch that one with my kids at some point in time. Yeah, you should. The IMDb rating is 8.1. That's not a rating they just give away, you know? No, it's weird. I just it stuck out to me odd i'm like why have i never seen that yeah i'd actually just for the sake that it's actually animation i i wouldn't mind seeing that again too um so five for seven pretty good wow some real interesting people in the cast on that thing we got harry connick jr okay uh jennifer aniston okay whoa the voice of the

iron giant the voice of the iron giant johnson actions it's an action star no not john cena i'll give you one more guess uh russell crowe vin diesel really that's great i'm actually the funniest choice possible oh man i'm curious if it's actually his voice or if it's just so like manipulated and distorted that you would never even know. I don't know what Iron Giant is about, but he's like, I live my life one Iron Giant at a time. Man, this Iron Giant from outer space sure is into racing cars. The only thing better than being a giant is family.

I love my family. I don't think the people that wrote the script had any clue what this giant was supposed to say. Vin Diesel really ad-libbed a lot of things about family and race cars. That all 20 years in the future came full circle. So watch that one. All right. I'm going to watch that. Follow up for me. Little how the tables have turned tables on this one where I need to follow up watch that one all right i'm gonna watch that follow up for me

little uh how the tables have turned tables on this one where i need to follow up on that one all right good week of has he seen it right here according to google uh the iron giant is considered one of the worst marketing snafus in mainstream movie history how what do you like it wasn't marketed well like it was a really good movie and it didn't get marketed well so people didn't watch it yeah because that's probably why i think it was a bit of yeah i think it was a bit of a flop at the box office yeah it was but people decided it was good yes due to the the marketing and promotion of it that's interesting and people say marketing doesn't matter could have had the iron giant Could have had the Iron Giant 10 by now

if they would have marketed it better. Vin Diesel wouldn't have probably taken on that role. Vin Diesel went to that time to be in the Fast and the Furious. And Triple X. Was that Vin Diesel? Yes, Triple X. And what was the other? Chronicles of Riddick?

Surprisingly not a pornography show. It was really in for a rude reckoning when it was not a porno. I think that starts... Isn't Triple X that starts with not a porno. I think that start isn't triple X. It starts with the Ramstein concert. I think so. Right. Yeah.

And then triple X feels a little. What's that movie? You know, super. Everyone's gonna be like, oh, you can't remember that. You know, it's where Mad Max. It feels a little Mad Max. It's a little Mad Max. I kind of get what you're saying.

I haven't seen it for like 10 billion times better. That's what I mean. Like, it feels like a really cheap knockoff Mad Max-y TV. I kind of get what you're saying. I haven't seen it for like 10 billion times forever. That's what I mean. It feels like a really cheap knockoff Mad Max to me. From what I remember, I haven't seen Triple X since it was new, and I don't know what year that came out, so I'm assuming 20 years ago. But my recollection of it is a cheap, shitty knockoff Mad Max. That's probably accurate.

I can't really even say. I just don't remember. Someone can put this into a quote. probably accurate i i can't really even say i just don't remember someone can put this into a quote triple x is a cheap shitty knockoff garbage version of mad max and then like well look and be like oh yeah those put that in a stupid black and white quote those movies had nothing to do with each other so man what what statement was that guy making there okay that wraps up has he seen it for this week good stuff i wanted to tell everyone a little bit about juggernaut ai

juggernaut ai uh as this meat prep is coming up for the mass dynamics lift hard live easy meat everyone is i've seen everyone in the gym is all restarting their uh juggernaut programming to set it up. They're going to get about, we're like 32 weeks out or something. I think someone was telling me. It's like a week off from being the perfect six months, I think. That's why everyone's kind of like in limbo right now. They're all waiting because they're all wanting to restart their juggernaut to pick July 22nd.

And I shouldn't say the perfect six months. The perfect whatever default. It's not six months. It's the perfect whatever thing that juggernaut wants to default out. Right. So we've got so many people, you know, locally in the gym and stuff that use juggernaut AI, everyone's pumped to utilize it for this meat, which it is kind of the perfect thing to be able to help, uh, you go through the phasic structure of hypertrophy strength training blocks and then peaking and it actually peaks you for the meat uh which if you knew to ever doing a meat or actually for testing maxes it's going

to take you through some stuff that like i've never done this before um but you're going to understand at the end of it why it is you're doing that you know when you see the results um you're using juggernaut ai still? Yep, just finishing up my bridge block. I'm going to get back after it pretty soon here. So check out Juggernaut AI, but make sure to go, when you go check it out and go get signed up, go through the web browser.

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Thank you, Texas Power Bars. Thank you. Okay, just when you thought we were done with segments and games, I've got one more for you. Oh, you pull me back in. Yeah, keep reeling them back. This one is overrated, underrated. Are you familiar?

I sure am. We're recording this on December 22nd. We are three days out from Christmas to 48 hours out from Christmas Eve. This is going to come out well into the new year, so it's above and beyond that for you listening. But anyways, as you're listening, you can remember back to Christmas. It wasn't that damn long ago, so just shut up about this. There's still that little twinkle of Christmas in your eye. Yeah, so what we're going to have here is a special Christmas version

of Overrated to Underrated. And because I just said the magic word Christmas version of over under, you're going to notice. Oh, you're watching on video. We're going around that and that. All right. Tanner's got red and green lights behind him now.

Yeah. Santa Claus is coming to town. I'm manually doing what I'm doing right here, but I wish I could just make this do this automatically. So some of our upgrades is part of it is lighting here. There's some lighting that I can control for the computer. And I'll switch that to red because it's our special over-under Christmas edition right here. There we go.

You do have your druthers, Tommy, and you just cannot ride the line. No line riding at all whatsoever. So overrated or underrated eggnog oh i i'm not sure if i've like really ever like made a real attempt at drinking eggnog like same it's like most people it's like they've maybe had like a sip or two of it in their life and go oh gross and you never touch it again right isn't that that's boat. I kind of thought that's how everyone was with eggnog. And it blows my mind if there's actually people out there that are like, oh, no, like, I like eggnog.

Actually, I take that back. I had roommates. It's their seasonal thing. I thought it started as a joke, but it's still going like all these years later, which makes me think it must be real. They do eggnog and blackberry brandy. I don't think those things are supposed to go together, but they do it every year,

and they still do it to this year. They're still doing it. So I guess there are people that apparently do like eggnog, but I'm going to say it is overrated. Agreed. That is the correct answer. Okay. Overrated or underrated christmas movies

i want to say they're overrated because there's so many that i feel like just phone it in you know it's like oh we got the christmas movie we get the sentimentality thing going the the sadness of family or the loss of the christmas spirit it's all falling apart. And then at the end we make them into a believer and everything's good. Like there's so many that follow that generic formula. Even the good ones kind of follow that generic formula, but there's just way more misses than there are hits. That's why I will say they're overrated. But that being said, there are still some good Christmas movies. There's just not as many good ones as there are really bad ones. Yeah, I probably agree that they're overrated,

although there are some we watch every year. Yeah, it's almost just part of the tradition. I think Elf is always good. We just watched Elf a couple nights ago. Everyone in my family likes it. It's fun to watch Elf. We watch Home Alone every year. Always good.

Because we love Home Alone. I love uh national lampoon's christmas vacation that's probably my favorite that's my favorite christmas movie and i've been saving it till like we'll probably watch that tomorrow night like that's gonna be like my last one uh the final hoorah when i was a kid i was like the the animated grinch i always thought that was awesome as a kid. Oh, I still love that. And the Grinch, well, we'll get more to this, but I guess I'm not actually going to even speak on that right now. But I do like the Grinch, the animated Grinch. The remake of that that's more recent, I think, is kind of trash.

Well, but there's been several remakes. There was like the Jim Carrey remake in like 2000, probably three or four-ish. Those are all trash, actually. It's just the original animated one that is that one is the best one for sure and my most controversial one that i think that i really like just out of um tradition is a christmas story some people usually love or hate a christmas story i really like a christmas story i always remember that being on as a kid and not 24 hours

of a christmas story on like tvs every year yes yes yes yeah that being on as a kid and not 24 hours of a Christmas story on like TV every year. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That's right. As a kid, I never really liked it. I do enjoy it more now as an adult.

Yeah. Yeah. As a kid, that one was a tough one for me. We always use my mom liked it. So we always watch. Oh, I always remember being on like to me. That is like the the on TV Christmas movie when the holidays get near. Because Elf and some of these other ones didn't exist yet.

So that was like the movie that was always on. Right. I made my kids watch that one. Jack, not so much a believer in a Christmas story. But can't all be home runs, can they? That's right. Overrated or underrated? Stockings.

I'm going to caveat one thing thing i think we've probably done a christmas version of over under sometime back in the year probably i may have picked the very same damn four topics for all i know but we're getting a fresh take on all this yeah um stockings are probably underrated because i think it takes if you're gonna do stockings it takes the pressure off the gift thing because like oh no stockings are meant to just be dumb, cheap little gifts, whatever you throw in. Like if you get a stocking and there's candy in it, are you like, oh man, I'm so pissed. I got a stocking. All there was can't, it's like, no, you're just happy no matter what for a stock.

Right. No, it's all good. So I think they're probably underrated in that and that it's a, it's a lower effort, lower risk, lower everything, lower stakes gift. Like you just, people are just happy for things in a stocking not that i'm around people that aren't happy for gifts in general but you don't feel like you gotta try very hard on a stocking you know yeah true that last one with all the marbles you're familiar with the marble i think check that out if if you play massonomics

yeah are these christmas marbles or regular marbles? These are, yeah, these are like snow globe style Christmas marbles. All right. Yep, yep. I can picture them. So overrated or underrated Christmas music? It's overrated. I think so. It is.

Well, actually, some I like and some I don't. I hate the Mariah Carey song. That is the worst piece of music ever to me. And I know people like, that's like not a hot take because a lot of people either love it or hate it. But I do not like the Mariah Carey song. I totally get why people can like that song. I do.

It's like super catchy and it's kind of an epic fun feel to it. I mean, it's overplayed like more than any other song like that no doubt about that but i can understand why people like it so that's why i can't i can't trash on it too hard because i can be caught having a fun time with that song playing in the right moment uh but yeah they're so it's kind of like christmas movies there's so many christmas songs that are so blah or boring. Like they exist just purely out of tradition. Not, I don't think any merit of that. Well, and it's all the remakes of the, you know, like whoever the most popular artist is or the time, you know, like Luke Bryant singing, whatever.

I don't even know. I'm just making up. Yeah. Here's Justin Bieber's take. And now here's Ariana Grande's take on it. And here's like, there's just so much of that. But that being said said there are some classics in there for sure uh they're just a lot of crap a lot of crap that's true we have a uh well i'm

kind of a record guy obviously we know clearly listening around here yes i'm a record guy my favorite christmas album that we have a few different christmas albums my favorite is a bing crosby uh christmas album that we have and And I really like the Bing Crosby. It's like old, obviously. And I just really like that. I can put that on and it's super fun in the house. Like everyone, I don't know. I really like the Bing Crosby Christmas album.

It's really good. I still, this time of year is, if you're a Spotify user, I'm sure it's the same thing for Apple music. You go to the top charts, you know, Christmas songs take over this year's the exception because SZA released her new album. And that is just pushing all of the Christmas songs out of the top. But, uh, I just had to pull it up right now. The number two song SZA has number one, but the number two is Brenda Lee rocking around the Christmas tree. And I still am like, her voice has got a little,

the way she nails that song. She does like, and that is a Christmas song that gets overplayed and it's been covered 10 million times. Her original is still the best for sure there. I think so too. I'm just looking at this. You're a mean one,

Mr. Grinch though. I really like that. Yeah. That's a great Christmas song. Yeah. I'm looking like Michael Buble. Those ones never did anythinginch, though. I really like that. Yeah. That's a great Christmas song. Yeah. I'm looking like Michael Buble. Those ones never did anything for me.

I do not like those. I do not care for those. I will give it up for the. I don't know. Is there any Bing Crosby on the list anywhere that you can see? That's probably not in the top 50 right now. So the top Christmas songs right now are rocking around the christmas tree number two for christmas is all i want all i want for christmas is humor i carry uh jingle bell rock by bobby helms and i wouldn't

even know who sings half of these songs right you know everyone knows the songs they just always sing it last christmas by wham that is a bit of a banger i'll give them that uh it's the most wonderful time of the year andy williams a holly jolly christmas let it snow let it snow santa tell me by ariana grande that's getting in that more new school uh the christmas song by nat king cole felice navidad you know it oh that's the Taco John song yeah that song I think uh Jose Feliciano was so inspired by Potato Olays that he wrote Feliz Navidad I believe is it's funny if you live in Arpaio when that song I've heard that song maybe like three or four times this Christmas season and when it comes on every time I'm like oh it's like that's good marketing it is that now you cannot hear that song and not think about like oh i should get some taco johns yep it's so a part of it a hundred percent

uh nachos navidad feliz navidad nachos navidad they're one in the same have your day the mexican way do you think he gets any do you think he gets well i hope the guy's dead somebody think his estate gets any type of royalties off of taco john's using that yeah that's a good question there's got to be some some deal worked out there good news tommy it looks like you passed over all right so do you have uh anything to give yourself in uh oh yes as a rule as a these might be the coldest beans I've ever served up ever. Those were served up at a blistering

feels like negative 45. Almost negative 50 it feels like. God, that is so cold. They don't make gloves that can keep your hands completely warm in that. No, that's not a thing. That's not. This morning I'm wearing these

super thermal insulated gloves that you couldn't pick up your phone off of. If it was sitting flat on the table, you couldn't pick up your phone while you're wearing them because they're so cumbersome. You basically had two giant burlap sacks wrapped around your arms. It's like you'd be outside for two minutes, and it feels like you're not wearing gloves.

It feels like you're standing out there. Really, at this point, it's like gloves are just stopping you from the instantaneous burns that you would get without having gloves on. It just makes it like a burn. You know, this last joint of fingers just is, you could just saw them off is what it feels like. It's so bad. Those are the first to go.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I like that we bookend this episode with weather. Yeah, more weather. That feels really appropriate, doesn't it? It sure does. But, damn, that wind.

That wind is something else. It ain't the temp that gets you. It's the wind chill, right? It kind of is, yeah. I hope, I think what's's gonna happen is everyone that listened to 351 a week ago and they thought oh i noticed that was a little off compared to what they usually do then they just finished up this episode here with 352 and everyone just said okay that's okay so are we at the part where we can just congratulate ourselves and pat ourselves on the back here like

i think so i'm at the phase where i feel really, like there's, I will say right now, I remember back in the day, every once in a while, my camera would get the little skippy, we get the little skippy icon. The skippy icon turned on my camera very early. So there's at least gonna be a couple second gap in my video.

It's how many times did it do that? But audio wise talking, this felt so much better than last week, like 10 million times better. Oh yeah, and some of that video stuff, like still 90% of our listenership is listenership and not viewership. Like our audio presentation is the most important.

And the most important thing is today we were able to have, this felt like the Mastodonomics podcast i this is agree even as i'm talking i'm like yes this is the massonomics podcast nothing is differing about it we can keep going for another hundred years because now we have you know like there was last week i was like shit yep there was a couple times in there where i was like finding myself like it was feeling exactly like we were in the basement at my house and then if it wasn't for like a notification

popping in discord or whatever like that was the only thing like breaking the illusion for me and like bringing me back to earth was like oh no no no no like we actually are not in the same room right now right right okay on that note check out our website we did just restock the navy lift

hoodie this is important point won't check out our website. We did just restock the Navy lift hoodie. This is important point. Won't get into all the full details, but we do have something very, very cool coming up. And Tommy, where's my camera?

Okay. I just want to make sure what we can and can't see. Where's the camera in front of me? Yeah. I just want to make sure what it is or isn't picking up on, but there's something really super cool that came in this week. Do I know what this is? Yeah, it's going to be our occasionally we like to do cool stuff for our

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