Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 353: 2023 Predictions

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! All right. side everything massonomics all right welcome back everyone for episode 353 of the massonomics podcast as we like to call it the lifting podcast about near finn recorded live from western northeast south dakota and also eastern southeast south dakota i it's going to continue to take me some practice to make sure i don't screw up uh the new location added in there i yeah you do not want to mix miss up the location i've done all right with it these last couple times but i just gotta

gotta keep drilling that one into the old uh memory into the spank bank as you will that's right seal it away everything in the memory is just a spank bank at this point it's all spank bank as you will that's right seal it away everything in the memory is just a spank bank at this point it's all spank bank uh this is episode 353 and my name you didn't you didn't introduce yourself my name is tanner if you haven't figured that out yet and my name is tommy yeah so tommy some weather we've been having actually it's been pretty decent. Is it snowing there? No. Oh, we've gotten multiple inches of snow today. Oh, really? Yes, on top of the old classic, let it rain for a

little bit, and then once the rain's done, then let it snow on top of that. Well, that's best for the road conditions. That's kind of what you're after. It's that constant variableness of traffic. Yeah, that's great. Yesterday was one of the... I was finally getting to leave my house a couple times. I lived here almost three weeks now.

Finally, in the last few days, I got to leave my house a few times, and it's like, nope, not going to mess with it now that there's ice and all types of things on the road again. Yeah, there's, like, the roads here are probably the best they've been in a few weeks. I mean, they're sloppy and terrible in that way, but they're starting to, some of the layers of ice are coming off of it. So, I mean, they're still terrible, but the best they've been in weeks. You can almost relax a little bit

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Thank you, Barefoot Shoes. They're cool beans. Very good. Thanks, Barefoot. Boy, Tommy, we got another humdinger, a little humdinger plan for this week, don't we? Another barn burner in the works. Yeah, we're going to revisit uh well actually not revisit we're going

to bring back our predictions so a few weeks back we revisit our 2022 predictions we made predictions at the beginning of the year which would make sense and then we caught up with them here in december and now we're going to so we can play that game again 12 months from now we're going to do our 2023 predictions a little later on in this episode they're wild do you i wonder who knows what we'll predict yeah who could be anything at this point is this the year the mayan calendar ends and we're all done what year was that supposed to be was that wasn't that 2012 oh i think that's right that sounds right yeah i'm pretty sure if it's, 2012 was definitely something.

2023, that would be the next year that makes the most sense. So maybe we need to put that one on the guessing game. Yeah, so we are going to do our predictions, of course, and then we have just a whole bevy of other topics that we're going to hit on in here too. Tonight, more than any other night, it feels like there's a lot of odds and ends, a lot of house cleaning we have to do on this list here. We're going to hit on in here tonight more than any other night it feels like there's a lot of odds and ends a lot of a lot of house cleaning we have a lot of house cleaning we're going to play uh has he seen it we're going to play overrated underrated of course and uh

i think first we should probably hit on what's kind of been our central topic for the last few episodes of studio 6.9 and our progress here and how we how we feel things are going so oh so tanner you got a sneak peek of it yeah i just got the video and the audio edited that would be 352 dropping yes 352 that'll be dropping this uh sunday on youtube and man the video looks good the audio is great it's we took a look and we're like wow this is amazing you could you could make the argument this is better than what we used to have. Even there are parts. It's certainly, it's certainly no worse,

but it's, it's really nice. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's kind of crazy, especially, you know,

in contrast, how poorly we three 51, the presentation ended up being, um, I guess it's apparent we did make the right changes because 352 is a way better product. And I think it's on Mastodonics par now. I mean, I think it feels like a Mastodonics product then, doesn't it? We're not quite as dumb as we look.

I know we always surprise people with that. But we got a little trick up our sleeves once in a while. I like people are using your thumbnail image for episode 351 is you making that uh face uh what what emotion would you describe that face as that you're making kind of like uh disgust like uh grossed out scared maybe i have the the face you make when you walk into a gym full of treadmills, I guess. That's what it was. People are making funny memes with that one.

And I liked the one where it said Tommy's reaction when he finds out he has to help Tanner with IT problems. I didn't see that one. I thought I caught all these, but I did not see that one. I particularly liked that one. It gave me a good look. There we go. When you realize, let's teach Tanner about technology. Oh yeah.

Matt had one that made me laugh very hard and I already forgot what it was. That's, that's how good it was. It was so good. I forgot it less than an hour later, but anyways, we are kind of getting studio 6.9 dialed in here. Don't you think?

Yes. Yes. It's all coming together. Still some few little tweaks we're going to make. I am going to still work on my backdrop here. Your backdrop's banging over there, but I'm still going to get mine refined, cleaned up a little bit. But we're getting there. We're getting really close. We're like 90% of the way there.

Yeah, we're edging right now. Very, very edgy. We're edging right now. Right. Very, very edgy. We're right on the edge. That's right. So stay tuned. Make sure to check out, well, this is three 52.

I mean, check this out on video on YouTube. If you haven't also checked out, check out three 52 or three 53 to get a taste of what things are starting to look like. Maybe don't check out three 51. If you haven't up to this point, just listen to the audio on that one. Don't't watch it on youtube 351 we'll get maybe we'll get to be one of those infamous episodes that we've had it's like almost borderline party yeah that's what i mean

you know it's like not party cast and i do see it looked like maybe repeatonomics was listening along tonight uh so if we need any good party cast uh historical callbacks we could probably call on repeat he's the only one that survived listening to to the party cast more than once here's a question do you think we'll have repeat and oh maybe we should save that for the 2023 predictions okay yeah yep any any any guessing we gotta save it at this point we've come you've got to just save it for the game. Yeah, don't buy our episode 351 or our hats. Okay, what did you...

You had something about East Bay in there that I was pretty curious about. So I think we're both familiar with East Bay, aren't we? Absolutely. I mean, we grew up in an era where you bought shoes from East Bay. Yeah, I remember getting super jacked, like being young and seeing those catalogs and getting so jacked for them and actually getting excited for East Bay catalogs to come in the mail. And actually, the first time in my brain that it really clicked to where, damn, shoes are really cool. damn, shoes are really cool. I remember, I think I was in, I mean, you could, you could know by looking up the year of the releases, but if I had to guess, I would say third or fourth grade, I went and I spent the night at my friend Cole's house. Cole had older brothers,

which meant they naturally were getting the East Bay magazine. And I remember seeing black and red Jordan 12s for the first time ever in my life and being like, Whoa, I don't even know what those are, but those are so cool. Like I had never seen a shoe that in my brain i thought that is awesome and that was what really clicked for me at the time and then yeah you get east bay magazines growing up uh naturally that business pretty much dies out like it does for anyone else but uh east bay has been a division of footlocker for the last quite a while have you no i didn't even know that okay speaking of another company that's probably like not doing that well maybe i'm wrong but do has been a division of Foot Locker for the last quite a while. Have you known that? No, I didn't even know that. Speaking of another company that's probably not doing that well,

maybe I'm wrong, but people don't shop in a mall, do they? I don't know. See, that one's confusing because I feel like you get mixed signals on it, but they also do have a strong online presence, too. Okay, if they have an online presence, then that's probably the only way that they exist still then. Yes, but they have been a division of Foot Locker, I think, for at least 10 years, if not longer. But it has been announced that East Bay is closing its door

after 43 years of operations at the end of 2022, which basically means right now. They are saying goodbye to East Bay at the end of December. We encourage you to shop at Champ Sports to find great deals for athletic shoes. Champ Sports is also under the... Foot Locker umbrella. Foot Locker umbrella.

And yeah, basically they're getting shut down. So kind of, I mean, it's definitely like a part of our childhood that's disappearing. But then it's one of those things where it's like, when was the last time we bought, we gave them business you know i couldn't and really it's like it's all under the foot lot it's like all these companies there's like one company two companies out on everything now so i guess yeah i guess spiritually east bay doesn't exist anymore but they were always

kind of part of footlocker anyways so i'm not sure it really matters a whole lot someone's probably losing jobs, I guess, but as far as our lives go, it doesn't really change much other than some nostalgia. And now I know I just will never run into one of those magazines again. Like before there was the hope that I'd come across an East Bay magazine. It's a doctor's office maybe or something.

Exactly. Yeah. If you type in like on Google, like old East Bay magazines, I'm just doing it right now. You can see the images that come up and the shoes that are in there are pretty amazing. And also the pricing for them. Some shoes, the pricing surprised you a lot. Others it's like, oh, that's actually not too bad, but i'm trying to look at some of these the picture is so small i can't tell but actually it's really funny looking now these old east bay

magazines all of the shoes that are in are like popular again now that were 20 years on but here we go air jordan 12s 140 i'm pretty sure those go for 200 now i remember going to east bay especially if it was like a specialty sport sometimes it was just like where you could the like the only reasonable place you could get some of that stuff like i needed uh like football cleats that was i you couldn't i mean if you're lucky there'd be you know we're both from a smaller town you'd go to like the bigger town over and then you'd walk through the store that sold football cleats and look at the four options they had and pick one off the wall you know or you'd go on east bay and

have every option available yep or like i had um throwing shoes for track you know like spinning shoes and yeah you couldn't have bought those and you know i mean i i'm sure there was internet resources to be able to do it but a lot of people at the time were still just using magazines to order stuff like that. Yeah, this is pretty amazing right here. Jordan 1s, they have them for $80 here. How much do they cost? $180 to $200 now, assuming you can even pick them up.

And then the other classic East Bay, we've talked about this on a past episode, were the jump shoes. That was always in East Bay, those jump shoes. Yeah, that's jump shoes that was always in east bay yeah that's true those were always in there who do we talk to jacob ross about the jump shoes yes yes i think he posted a video wearing those i think after we talked to him about that yeah didn't he do uh didn't he do a deadlift or something isn't that what it was yeah yeah set the set the jump shoot deadlift world record somebody had to do it yeah so uh had to do it to him so pour one out pour a cold

one a cold sparkling water out for our east bay homies tonight speaking of uh cold sparkling waters i'm a little thirsty i'm actually extremely thirsty and i didn't grab anything can you uh keep keep the people entertained for five seconds while I run across the house? We'll play a little game over here while I dip into this one. Oh, I already see what you got. It looks so good. I'll be right back.

So as Tommy goes to get that, we'll take a dip into what I've got. And I've got one of the, or anyone watching one of the tall, fancy LaCroix's. I mean, all LaCroix's fancy, but the tall ones are, tall skinny ones are particularly

fancy. So this is the what is it? Cherry Lemon. They of course have it in a different language at top, but let me crack this open. Ooh. Yeah, that is a crispy crack on that one.

Oh, what did I miss, Tanner? Mmm. Mmm. Cherry lime. Cherry lime fancy LaCroix. So, but it's, I'm going to read it in this other language. It's Cerise Le Mans. Fancy tall LaCroix.

And it is good. You nailed that accent. I got the old Waterloo black cherry here. That's good. Classic and delicious. Cherry Coke. This one's really good. You're familiar with this one, Tommy?

I am. I think we've had that one a couple times on the show, I believe. It's a good LaCroix. It is. They knew what they were doing when they, when they put that far. What is like the inherent difference between this shape of LaCroix? Like,

is there something like across the board? You'd say, Oh, if it's in that shape of a can, this is what it means. I don't, yeah, I don't know what that means.

There probably is something to it, but I have no idea why things get that. Some get the tall skinny can and the others just get the regular can. I have no idea where that comes from. Okay, well, it pops. I give this a four JD Power & Associates Award. This is a good one. I'm torn because I know we've done this black cherry,

and I feel like this is one we've given a four. I know I like that one. That's a good one, too. Yeah. I think I would give it a four if I haven't before. Okay. So. All right.

Yeah, what else do we got here on the old list? Let's talk about our good old friend, Marius Puginowski. Oh, yeah. I don't know if we've talked about him on the podcast for a while, probably, but it's been a long time, I believe. As we know, the former world's strongest man has dipped his toes into the MMA waters for quite some time now since his retiring from Strongman.

And did you see the clip of his most recent fight? I mean, it's been a few weeks ago now at the time that this episode's coming out, but did you see that? I did see the clip, and there were several noteworthy things about it. Yeah. He was fighting, I don't know, Mamed Kaladov. That's what I'm going to say. That's who he was fighting.

And he tapped out in like a minute, or was it even that long? I'm not sure it was even that long. Okay, it was like maybe under a minute. And I did see that Pujanowski outweighed him by 53 pounds. Oh, that's the first thing that stands out is when you look at it, you're like, why are these guys in the same weight class? How is this happening right now? And I still don't know what the answer to that question is.

No, I don't really know. This isn't like UFC. And to be fair, I know next to nothing about MMA. Would you say your Olympia knowledge is only surpassed by your MMA knowledge? That might be true. Actually, I'd say how little I know about MMA qualifies perfectly for us to be talking about this on the Maths Dynamics podcast. I would say that's exactly why we should be talking about it here. You got a point there. You're totally right. Yep. Let's dive into this. So that everyone listening can really be like,

wow, these dumbasses do not know what they're talking about. But I don't know anything about MMA, but to me it looked like a strong case of someone being strongly outskilled at the discipline that they're competing in. You know, the bigger, stronger guy does not necessarily win. Yeah, and especially when you're that much bigger and stronger looking that you lose, it seems like you're being very outgunned

in the skill department. Pujanowski wins in the physique department, hands down, though. He still looks shredded. He always has won in the physique department, hasn't he? He has, and he's he's still still the dominator presenting there the dominator did not dominate in this one though did he not this time no so yeah you can probably look up the clip and it'll take just seconds of your time because there's just not much to see but if you are a Puginowski fan or just like to

keep up with him make sure you check that also he he tapped via strikes like he wasn't being it's very weird yeah he wasn't being like that's the uh obviously i it happens and it happened in this case but you know i more more closely associate tapping with being in a hold of some sort but he tapped just to being stricken in the head and not being able to like defend himself from it any longer so he just tapped out yeah anything gonna happen yeah um so who will we see next and uh what strong man would you like to see next in mma in mma oh who would i like to see well a lot of the guys a lot of the big name guys are too are the guys with the biggest reputation are too old i think that's true brian shot in mma would just be ridiculous yeah he's too old he's way too big he's not gonna get slow right yeah he's not gonna

fit in any weight class so he's just way too much um i mean you could have said Thor possibly could have made an entrance here when he was more in his boxing shape but we watched a boxing fight with him and Eddie and that was like the worst I didn't even watch the whole thing it was just so boring and lame that there's no way an actual fight or a mixed martial arts fight is going to be any better. Repedonomics said Dimitar

you know what that is the answer Dimitar it is right on our nose the whole time yep uh how could we forget dimitar he's just been laying low lately yeah well dimitar definitely a favorite of mine okay we've been talking about this thing you and i have been and i uh posted posted something about it on our mass comics instagram here this last week but chat gpt that's something i was like a little bit of a little bit i don't know if i really even knew it by name all that well but i was and this is this is changing gears if people aren't aware yeah this is an

enormous change of gears right now i i gave up on the uh mma i've said all that i can about mma we'll come back to that in like 12 more months uh no so ai like writing ai you know we've everyone's seen the the ai photo or the AI art that's been popular lately. I don't know what program is that or what is that exactly? Well, I forget what the one's called where everyone had their, here's me as an elf, here's me as an astronaut, here's me as a whatever. Here's me as five different variations of being jacked. Yes, it's all what it is. Yeah, looking larger than life

and um but the ai writing that's something i've been a little bit of aware aware of you know i know it exists i'm sure we've talked about it a little bit in passing and just read a few things about it but uh over christmas my my brother-in-law he said said, have you seen, like, first, are you aware of it? I'm like, well, yeah, I'm kind of aware of it. But he's like, have you seen this, like, in use yet? And I'm like, no, I guess I haven't. And I didn't realize how curious I was until he showed me the first go-round. go around he said like he gave chat GPT the prompt like write a humorous poem about

massonomics and I ultimately ended up sharing something like that and then he hit that and said hit the enter button and I hit it and you watch it write it right in front of your eyes in real time extremely quickly like as fast as you can read it's writing it if not faster and i read it read it that first uh first one and i thought oh my god this is like

um this is gonna change so much you know this changes so many things like in it i guess it's kind of like a seeing is believing thing because i didn't really fully understand what it was doing until watching it happen. Yeah, what it was actually capable of. Yeah, and then I was like, okay, this is insane. Like I really didn't realize that there was technology that existed quite like that yet. And I don't know. It's just wild.

I think it's just going to change a lot of things, especially as it only gets better. Yeah, so there it only gets better. Yeah. So there is so much here. This could easily be a two-hour topic on its own. And this is something we don't know a ton about, and we could still probably talk about it for two hours. I mean, the other day on the phone, I think me and you talked about this for almost an hour, just going on and on about it, because there's so much there. And it's not just, oh, you give it a prompt and tell it to write things like you can ask it questions and it'll give you advice or you can almost like ask it for like help with how an article would be and it can spit out an article

like you were asking i think you said the greatest power lifter of all time and it it put together an article that as people that are fairly knowledgeable on the subject you couldn't argue with it you could maybe say like oh i maybe would stylistically or I maybe would have subjectively made some different choices, but you couldn't say like, well, it did a bad job and it was totally wrong and it was well-written enough and it made sense and it was concise and to the point like it's pretty incredible what it can do already. And when you start looking at all the things it can do from like chatbots to article writing to potentially writing code to writing scripts,

all of this stuff, it's kind of insane what is out there in the future. And in theory, this stuff is only gonna get better as time goes on, which is also pretty crazy, but it does make it seem like writing content, especially if your livelihood depends on that, is going to be a dangerous place to be in the near future. Yeah, you're going to have to, I mean, in most scenarios,

you're going to have to adapt to use this technology, not to fight against the technology, I think. Like to be successful in whatever you do in like that writing space like this should be a tool not a uh not something you want to avoid i think and the first thing that the first thing that i uh someone's right doing uh big nate did you see that in the discord he's he had chat gpt said massonomic shirt design yeah give me an idea for massonomic shirt design and it spits out it spits out here's an idea for new massonomic shirt design design a stylized image of a barbell with the world massonomics written across it in bold letters

color scheme the barbell could be rendered in black or metallic color and the text could be in a bright bold color like red or yellow. I mean, that's in that case, art direction. I'd say that's pretty vague. Like it's, um,

but like, like the fact that you can ask it for general direction on things. Like you're not just asking Google, like, Hey Google, what's the answer to this? Like you're actually, you're leaving it as an open-ended question for a stylistic thing.

And it's giving you a direction to go with. Okay. So big, like you're leaving it as an open-ended question for a stylistic thing, and it's giving you a direction to go with. Okay, so Big Lee is in there, a supporting member. He's in Discord right now, and he said, as a teacher, I am so looking forward to reading these papers. That's the first, like, upon seeing that, that's like my first thought, having been someone that went through high school, college, grad school. You know, you end up having to write a lot of papers over time and some of it maybe chat gpt can't do for you but it could do a lot of

things for you if i if i saying that right like i'm not saying it can do everything but it could be a pretty useful tool for a lot of papers you have to write big time and i think um i think with the like if you're just talking teachers giving you assignments with all right short answer things you know or it's all right write a paragraph for these five questions whatever it is i'm so far removed from that i can hardly even remember that now but um like chat gp2 could rock that but where it gets where it you can see the difference though is kids that are not good at writing it's not going to fit their style at all because it's going to be way better than they are and then also kids that are not good at writing aren't going to have like the the insight to go in right be the editor and like

clean up some basic things but you know once you get your like your your b maybe even your c your cb and a students if they put a little effort into it i would think chat beat gpt would be really hard to uh i would think you'd be able to cover your tracks and like just let chat gpt do a lot of the work for you right yeah there's a lot of talk going on in our Discord right now, but citations is an issue and there seems to be talk that it would make sense that only in time it could do that

accurately as well, like citing all your sources and providing all of that information as well. I mean, it's obviously pulling from sources when it's writing, so it wouldn't be a stretch for it to be able to start to incorporate that too, if necessary. It is crazy.

It's kind of crazy. It just doesn't make sense to me. When you actually watch it happen in real time, and my thought is, wow, so it's scrubbing the entirety of information as it can be found in well and and that's that is the question is the same thing with like the the ai art is it's where is its data coming right you know is it is it pulling from books is it pulling from the internet like is it pulling from yeah whatever the hell it's pulling from like because that is a big that matter yeah point of contention with a lot of people like is it stealing all of my work to put in its brain to use this stuff?

And so you don't really, maybe if you dig in enough, they'll give you some information on what the data set is. But that is part of how it's getting what it's getting. And then translating that in real time, like translating that to something that's cohesive over multiple paragraphs it's just like i don't even understand how that's just that's uh you know really really wild wild stuff it is it is and this is a field that will be changing a ton as uh the next i think

actually by the time the year's over like there's going to be so much stuff that happens with this that we're going to have a hard time believing that that's what's happening in a year. I remember the first time it was probably, it was probably actually about a year ago when I showed you the art one where you could feed it props and it would spit out art. And we're like, that seems not even possible.

And had a chance to play with that one. That one hasn't been as, I guess maybe as magical as I thought it would be where you really do got to be like really good with your direction. And even then when you think you have it down, you might have to clarify your direction or even change it like 30 times before you get something that you think direction or even change it like 30 times before you get something that you think would be acceptable. But there's, there is a lot of stuff changing in that field for sure. Do you, the most important question, do you think chat GPT uses the Oxford comma or not? That's a great question. I'm actually curious how well it works with like punctuation and things like that, because I believe the whole point of it is to be more conversational.

OK, like less formal. I think that's if you read in the stuff, you know what they're trying to get it to do. I think they want it to be a more conversational type speaking pattern that it's going through. So this is the only one I'm familiar with. Is this just is this just one of many? Do you know is this oh yeah this is just uh is this the leader open ai um maybe i don't i don't follow it enough to know they might be on the chat side of things or they at least have the brand recognition but uh on the on the image side there's a bunch of different people that have the image ones um yeah there's a lot

of people doing this right now it's the wild wild west isn't it just like uh will smith said wiki wild i think this is what he was talking about big evil spiders powered by artificial intelligence um coming for our jibs let's see got a lot of different things here uh we could do supporting our supporting members or we could uh we could play has He Seen It? Let's do supporting our supporting members. We'll flip on into that ad break, and then we'll keep the party rolling. Are we going to let the live stream keep rolling for a while then, or are we going to keep booting?

We'll see. It's like Russian roulette in here. You just think you're playing a game, and then boom, you're gone. We don't even know yet when we're going kick you out so supporting our supporting members i kind of gotta i like to do it we like to do it this way every once in a while every so many weeks we just uh give a little rundown of some more recent supporting members and i hadn't done that for a while so i thought it might be fun just to uh welcome some of our more recent recent recent joinees to the club and for anyone that's less familiar supporting our supporting members what it is is we have these supporting members first of all it's a relatively new segment then we have these supporting members that

like to support us they do that through our shop you can go online what's the exact URL if you wanted to hop right to it massonomics.com slash join. Yeah, you head there, and then you can sign up. We have several different levels of supporting member that you can participate in, but all of them come with exclusive benefits like being able to listen to the podcast live each week, a discount code that only you supporting members can use, access to our online Discord community,

a very, very active community of like-minded individuals, and then also the chance of being supported in this very segment this week we're going to support a whole bunch of them big lee thanks for supporting big alec thank you for supporting big nathan thanks for uh coming back as a supporting member you were gone but, but you've once again come back. You've returned to us. You have returned. Big Zachary, welcome.

Big George, thanks for supporting. Big, big Daniel, thanks for coming back. What once was gone is now is returned again in that case. Big Holden, Big Griffin, I think that's a welcome back also. See what happens here we've mentioned this before as people's uh cards they're uh uh they get a new card and then their their recurring subscription uh doesn't get updated so they're gone for a while until they realize they're not supporting members anymore and then they come on back and visa won't just let us keep their cards on file forever you know i if only

they would if only um big austin welcome to the crew big rachel welcome one of the chocolate chips and our chocolate chip cookie as if you will big uh big keenan big dallas big joseph big ryan big tim big luke big joshua uh former massonomics gym member big anthony big ashton big james big chris big lauren and big mitchell our most recent one we have kind of a little slew of them coming in this week, really. We've got a whole bunch of new members this week. It's been a great week for new pledges. Yes. So thank you all for becoming supporting members.

Thank you for all of our longtime members. And maybe this episode comes out too late after the line in the sand, but there is a definitive line in the sand here where last time it was our supporting membership card that we sent out, and if you weren't joined by a certain point in time, you didn't get one. This time we have a new thing.

It's a surprise as of now. You don't know what it is. Only Tommy and I, we're the only two people in the world that know what this thing is that we're sending out to all supporting members. And the time you're listening to this, maybe you could still get joined up and get in on this exclusive mailing. I don't know for sure when that is, but you could try.

The best you can do is try. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck. If not, just get in. You can say you're in early for the next go-around. Yeah. Good luck. If not, just get in. You can say you're in early for the next go around. Yeah. And if, um, if you are a longtime sporting member mentioned this, but make sure to, uh, let us know through a DM, what your most current address is. If you think your address may have

changed between now and the time you originally joined up to become a sporting member, if you think it's changed, make sure you've sent that to us. So we've got your right address because you're not going to want to miss out on this thing we've got to send you. No, no, you don't want to miss. You don't want to. And speaking of all the supporting member stuff, this the discord just reminded me here. There was a bit of a conversation happening with two white lights this week. And I shouldn't say conversation. There was it was a one sided conversation. There was some statements made regarding their community versus ours. Our frenemies over at Two White Lights.

So what did they? I'm definitely going to be paraphrasing here, but I think they said something like, we have the market cornered on beer drinkers that like to lift. Is that what they said? Well, like the third strongest lifters in their own home gym i know that that was a comment that was thrown out something like jorts wearing beer drinking like that's that's their go-to is do the massonomics guys even actually

lift i think that's kind of you know do these guys even really lift and boy howdy do they lift and we're actually all a bunch of us are putting our the money where our mouths are at with the lift hard live easy mass time is power lifting classic in 2023 you know there's no there's no doubt about it like our community is so strong we can have a whole power lifting meet full of people in our community yeah that uh it's incredible a meet that sells out in like a day because there's so many people that lift so seriously. USAPL Nationals can't sell out that fast. No, it's Massonomics Lift Hard Live Easy.

There's two parts to that. You don't have one without the other. You don't have the Lift Hard without the Live Easy. You don't have the Live Easy without the Lift Hard. These people are lifting hard. Let that be known and clear. Everyone is lifting hard they're just also fun people so they're also living easy they're complimentary easy yes they're

living easy as much as you could ever live yeah for as much as they lift hard they equally lift live easy right and don't get it twisted. So, yeah, we're just really strong, really silly gooses is what everyone is. But if there is any question as to who's getting the last laugh in this, I think our memes make it pretty obvious that you don't come to a gunfight with a knife. Well, you don't come to our gun fight with a knife. They're coming to a meme fight with a paper and a crayon. They have some whittled stick that they made, and we have fully automatic assault rifles.

Obama can't ban these guns. Our assault rifles are just spitting out memes everywhere, and they have a stick that they're trying to carve into the paper it doesn't even make any sense that's an unfair fight to be completely honest about that though like that's not um you know i yeah you can't fault them for that between you know us and especially the massonomics community like it's just yeah no that was that's definitely like that's definitely like you just rode your raft over the most violent waterfall and you're just getting pummeled at the bottom of that waterfall there's there's no hope for you anymore yeah that's what happens when you go there yeah so we'll have to bring those guys back on to defend themselves again

some point or maybe even better yet we won't and we'll just talk shit when they can't defend themselves yeah let it keep being a thing. That's maybe the right thing to do. That's the massonomics thing to do. Yeah, I like that. But if you do like powerlifting talk, if you're into that sort of thing, I guess they have a podcast about that too.

They do. They never really talk about non-powerlifting stuff though, so I don't really get it. And we talk about powerlifting like once or a few episodes so you probably get your fill for that here anyway that's way more than enough you don't need to overdo it that's way more than enough powerlifting talk right sets and reps what's all the sets and reps talk exactly all right what else we got on the list here i would talk a little bit about sets and reps because you know what I want to talk about? Who's that?

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I agree. I think that that's part of the appeal of the phasic structure of going from block to block is by the time you get to the end of one, you're genuinely excited for the next phase. So just switch it up a little bit. Let's switch it up. And it's not a wild switch. It's not like completely like, okay, I was marathon running. Now I'm going to test my one rep max on the bench you know there's just these small small changes over the phases that keep you i think like a high interest level that's kind of how it works for me at least i i 100 agree because i in

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You know, part of what I like about Studio 6.9 is now that I have a computer right at my fingertips, while you're reading an ad, I can type into the Discord chat. You don't have to be all worried on your phone over there. Right, right. So, and like if I put my hands right, you know, maybe you can't even tell what's he doing. Oh, is he

just reaching for another drink, or what is he doing? I actually can't, I can't see, so I don't know what you're doing down there. So could be playing pocket orders for all i can tell you're packing orders down there right and thank you i was it was funny i was like just seconds before we started i was packing orders i'm like well i'm down here where there's orders to be packed it's like like i don't ever have to leave if there was like a toilet underneath my desk i'd never have to leave the station ever in my life giving me ideas over there the seat of toilet that's right yeah um the other thing i was going to note about uh studio 6.9 is we're going without a guest again this week but i think we're geared up uh that we could uh we're to introduce soon our first guest,

our first call-in guest to Studio 6.9. So it's really going to feel like old hat again once we throw a guest into the episode two, I think. I think so. We just wanted to do a few of these where we felt pretty comfortable with it. We weren't getting caught off guard with anything. And as of right now, things are feeling pretty damn good so i think we are ready for a guest to hop in the mix here again someone asked if they would be a zoom guest also

and that's a that's possible that we have a variety of ways to be able to do it now so a lot of it will depend on what the guest themselves is equipped to be able to do it sometimes it'll just be a straight up phone call just like it always has been because that's kind of old reliable, and it's what we've known and had success with. But we do have an ability now with Studio 6.9 to do stuff like that. I am also going to just forever refer to this as Studio 6.9. It can be Studio 6.99, 9999 going forward. Yes, Studio 6.9420.

6.969. There's a lot of riffs on this. Yes. Do we keep in the supporting members on the live stream, or do we boot them, or what do you want to do here? We might have to boot them. We might need some alone time here. I'm kind of sick of those guys and gals anyways.

Okay. Here they go all right so as uh we boot and i was supposed to report all of them too yes yes make sure that they can no longer use zoom for work that zoom like bans them from being able to do this so that they they can't call in remotely for work tomorrow morning. And we're going to transition into Has He Seen It? Oh, okay, okay. So Has He Seen It? is a revolutionary game that we've been playing for a few weeks now, and it's where we quiz Tommy on, we pick a year, a year in time, and pick a subset of movies from those years,

from that particular year, and we find out, has he seen them or not? And if you haven't been following, we just got through the movies of the 20s. We're moving on to the 30s now. I haven't been doing very well. Yeah, we're in the talkies now, as we like to call them. The speakies.

Make it our way into the talkies. Has he seen it? Something with Charlie Chaplin. I think those were the only movies that came out for a decade. Yeah, he was in the one where they didn't say anything and there was like music and words. But this week we are going to talk about, last week we did 1999, a hell of a year for movies honestly um

so good that it's it's making me hopping us in the way back machine we're gonna go all the way back to 1988 oh we are we're gonna ever oh this is a new curveball system where i have where i gotta keep you guessing each week because i know you've been cheating. And the week like I know we just did 1999. So you've been binge watching all the movies from 2000. I just watched 50 different movies from the year 2000 this week. And I'm just realizing how many hours of my life I wasted. Well, you're safe because we'll probably do 2000 next week. And then it's still.

And not only did I watch 50 movies, each one. I have a notebook entry of an elaborate story of how I watched it in the year 2000. And that was all for nothing now. Yes. All for nothing. Should have been doing your 1988 homework. Interesting set of movies we got here for 1988. We got seven of them.

I'll say this. You're not probably going to do as well as 88 as you did 1999. I'm going to go, just thinking back, I don't think I've really seen that many movies from the 80s in general. And 1989, if that's any indication, that is the truth. So I'm going to say three. And that's being a little optimistic there. I think you'll know all these movies. I'm pretty sure, yeah, I think you'll definitely know all these movies,

whether you've actually seen them or not. I think three might not be a bad guess. I would maybe guess four, but we'll see. That's why they play the game, right? That's why the game's here. So, first, to get this kicked off, I want to hit you with a little something, okay?

This is 1988. Has he seen it? Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker. Die hard. Of course I haven't seen it. I have actually never seen Die Hard. Of course I haven't seen it. I have actually never seen Die Hard before. So do not get this. Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker. I mean, I know it's from Die Hard.

I actually think I maybe have actually even seen that scene before, too. I've seen parts of the movie, but I've never just sat down and seen all of diehard yeah that seems just too iconic that uh um you just everyone just knows that and what it's from whether you've seen the movie or not it is and yep and i have not seen it so you know what meme i really like i noticed this year for christmas you know of course uh diehard's the christmas movie but it's like my favorite christmas movie it's like, no, you don't get it. It's during Christmas time. Yes, we get it. It's like the guy that insists on telling you that Die Hard's his favorite Christmas movie.

Thank you. We get it. No, he's wearing a Santa hat. So, 0 for 1. You have not seen it. I wish I had a sound effect for each movie, but the only one I got to was Die Hard. Okay, I thought you were really up in the production value.

Well, I thought of how fun it would be if I did have a sound effect for each movie, and then I was like, oh yeah, Die Hard, yippee-ki-yay. And then the rest of them, I'm like, I don't know what the sound bite is for all the next six. He's maybe never even seen this this let alone know a line from the movie yeah oh for one uh okay now we're gonna get into the tom cruise section of 1988 oh god all right so you're gonna have a bad start here and when i say section there is more than one

movie here but they are both popular they are popular movies so has he seen it cocktail no i don't think i've even heard of that one cocktail that was the one i was if there was one i was to guess you hadn't heard of that was the one the rest is it has something to do with a bar yeah it's a bartender so we're not good on the uh because what was the uh what was the roadhouse? You also, everyone didn't like you hadn't seen Roadhouse and everyone's not going to like that. You don't know what cocktail is. I think I've, I've never heard of this movie.

I looking up the cover right now. I don't remember ever seeing the cover. This, this whole thing is new to me. Your 1980s bar movie trivia is not very good. You could really use some work, couldn't you? I was really starting to think I was a movie guy again, you know, when we were approaching the 2000s. Yeah, 97, 98, 99. Late 90s, 2000s, and all of a sudden that's going away from me again.

Okay. thousands and all of a sudden that's going away from me again um okay you know actually his uh the synopsis for the movie here doesn't sound a whole lot different than what could be like a nathan for you sketch uh brian flanagan wants a high-paying marketing job but needs a business degree first working as a bartender to pay for college flanagan is mentored by his veteran boss together they show tricks and charisma command command large crowds and tip payments oh boy yeah you know the flare bartenders do i think a lot is that yeah like that's a lot of what cocktail is you know okay that trickery shit that the fancy bartenders do. Gotcha. Okay, so 0 for 2.

Next one, I know you've heard of this one, but the question is, has he seen it? In the Tom Cruise section of 1988, Rain Man. I've not seen Rain Man. It's another one of these movies I've seen on TV before. I've seen parts of it. Never seen the whole thing again. It's a good movie.

I can vouch for Rain Man. That one's worth watching if you ever had the chance. I think I saw more of the iconic scenes when they're actually in the casino playing cards and all that. I thought it was really interesting. Definitely 20. It's my Dustin Hoffman as Rain Man

impersonation. You nailed nailed it i thought i was looking at dustin hoffman for a minute here at a blackjack table or whatever the hell uh is that what they play there blackjack yeah in the movie yeah yeah um so good good movie but uh you have not seen it oh for three okay now i feel better about some of these on i'm not sure if you've seen them i just feel a little better about some of these i'm not sure if you've seen them i just feel a little better about some of these here so have you seen it the land before time i have i actually had that video growing everyone did right i think so it's one of those everyone had the vhs tape in their house it's funny because that came out way before like that came out just a year after i was born

like i wasn't watching vhs's when i was one it came out before you were born i suppose but like everyone had that still like 10 years later yeah that is surprising when you say that because i would have guessed that was a movie from the 90s because everyone there did have it but if you didn't have the first one you had like the second or maybe the third one like everyone had one of those movies in their house and with that being said, I do not remember one part of that movie right now. I mean, you remember it's the dinosaur. Is it Littlefoot?

Yeah, Littlefoot. I was just going to say, I was thinking that the pterodactyl is Petrie. That does sound very familiar. I wouldn't have remembered Littlefoot until you said it, but I always remembered Petrie because I liked that character. I'm actually just thinking

right now my boy's getting very into dinosaurs he would probably love this i never even thought of it yeah the land before time i think it's streaming on amazon because i i had the same thought when i when i saw this i'm like oh i could watch the land before time with my kids for sure yeah peach petrie is the pterodactyl spike the spike sarah the triceratops uh the sharp tooth ducky yeah i i mean i watched this a ton when i was little i just do not remember the plot at all but i mean we had the vhs watched it a lot i would be very interested to watch this one again so you have seen it though one for four i have i want to we i need to follow up and watch that again okay next one um i'll say the name of this three times this movie have you seen it beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice uh i actually have never

seen beetlejuice i've seen it's another one of those i remember i had a friend close to my house and it seemed like they loved beetlejuice and i remember it being on at their house many many times but for whatever reason I never watched it probably because when I was a little kid it was too scary for me uh Beetlejuice was like scary just the guy himself was scary to me I'm sure the movie is not scary at all but I have never seen I've seen it I've had did you ever watch the cartoon Beetlejuice have you ever are you familiar I remember I remember seeing the cartoon on TV. Yeah, I remember catching that once in a while. Not a ton, but once in a while.

Yeah, I liked the cartoon. So not doing good. You may be poised for one of your worst weeks ever on Has He Seen It? Doesn't surprise me as we get older and older into the 80s here, though. Although, 89, you were four for seven. I was, really? Wow. older and older into the 80s here though um although 89 you were four for seven i was really wow uh and but right now you're sitting at one for five so two left two left you've got a chance here i could still get i could still get yeah i don't know how we're doing with these but have you seen it blood sport yeah i have seen blood sport that's one that one is super iconic and was also on i want to say like

tnt and spike tv like non-stop in the 90s for sure well probably aired on works existed like 25 of spike tv's programming was blood sport i i think so or uh at the very least john yeah i've seen bloodsport. Very good movie. Actually I'm actually have no idea how it holds up. I just remember as a kid all right fight scenes on and off. Awesome. Two for six. Last one. Historically

we end on an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie whenever possible and this year is no exception to that rule. So the finale have you seen it? Twins, Basil, twins. I have not seen twins. I have not seen it.

I don't really even know what the movie is about. I just don't know. Yeah, it's Danny DeVito, right? And it's Arnold. Yeah, that's all I know. Arnold and Danny DeVito. That's all I know about it. Maybe I better get the synopsis here.

So you wound up a 2 of 7 this week, which, yeah, you've gone. In 1991, you were 1 of 7. In 1990, you were 2 of 7. So this equals your second worst of all time at 2 of 7. But maybe next week we'll go back to the year 2000, and I bet you'll up that score a little bit, don't you think? I think I will. Now whenever you say twins,

I just think of that time Ryan and Larry took that picture together. Do you remember that? They reenacted the cover. That's an iconic Mastodonics picture. It is. Commercial success. The movie was a commercial success. Larry's leaning on your brother.

Yep, leaning on Ryan. I think we're in the bench-heavy shirt. And gray sweatpants, I think. All right. That wraps up another edition of Has He Seen It? on the Mastodonomics podcast. Are we going to get into a prediction time then? Is it?

I think so. I think it's time to do a little looking into the future. 2023 predictions. So that way next December we can look back on this and find out how terribly wrong we were. If we're still. Well, we were pretty, we weren't too bad this past year. So what I did, went back, kept a fair number of the things in from last year,

just updated some numbers in it because I think those were some good benchmarks. And then I believe you also brought some new and exciting items to the table this year. Yeah, I just had a couple notes of the things we could toss in there. Okay. So should we get started? right my first one the arnold will have more booths at it than it did in 2022 that's an interesting question isn't it it is and i was gonna say more people but it's really hard to gauge how many people are at the Arnold. Yeah, but more boosts, we'll know.

That's a feeling you can know, and we know what the map looks like going into it and everything, so we know that. 2022 was obviously a down year. The first year back after, was it two-year hiatus? I was thinking about this earlier. Yes, two-year hiatus. So we did not go in 2021.

We did not go in 2020 was the year we were called off in the 11th and a half hour, right? That's correct. So 2019 was the last year prior to that that we were there. And 2022 was kind of almost a shadow of 2019. It was very much a shadow. Yeah. And not the Dorian Yates kind of shadow either. And it wasn't a gift.

2022, still a lot of fun. Still a lot of people there. Just relatively speaking to the pinnacle, Arnold. Compared to the absolute insanity that it used to be. Right. It was definitely down. And the question the absolute insanity that it used to be right it was definitely down and the question is how will it compare to 2022 i'd want to say it's going to be more boosts right that's good for massonomics business well that's what i want to say but actually at the

same time the number of boosts doesn't necessarily matter it doesn't matter when people are coming in the door that is really what less boosts with more people coming in the door is probably better for massonomics right probably probably you know we don't need other boosts in order for us to sell Booths with more people coming in the door is probably better for Mastanomics, right? Probably. Probably. You know, we don't need other booths in order for us to sell a lot of merchandise. No. All right.

Next year, cap it to four apparel vendors and Mastanomics will be one of them. Yes. To answer your question, I hope it's going to be more, but for the sake of what I've seen lately, I'm going to say it will not be more. I will say it will be less. I agree with you. I think, uh, I don't know why this is the case.

I think people are stupid to not go to it. It's the easiest way to get in front of the most number of people, engaged audience. But, uh, based off what we're seeing right now, I don't think there's going to be as many booths as there was last year. Yeah. Fingers crossed that that changes.

I hope we're so wrong. No matter what, there's already a list of vendors of people there that I really like and are going to be fun to hang out with, so that's good. There's already these top-level competitors that are all going to be there and the top-level competitions that are going on. All the recipes there for an amazing Arnold. It's just the only thing that it looks like right now it's lacking is as many vendors as would be signed up at this point in time as what I suspect that there should be.

So I guess at the end of the day, just like what we're saying, I don't care if there's not as many vendors, but it's just a better sign if there's more vendors there, I think. Definitely. It shows a healthier, happier industry. So we're in to find something. I mean, and also if the vendors are down from 2022 in 2023, if it's noticeably down, something's going to have to change. I mean, one way or another, something's changing. It might be that nobody goes to that thing anymore and it just dies,

or they're going to have to change something to make it more vendor friendly. Enticing for, yes, yes. And I think the first thing is going to be. Lower the freaking price. My God. Yeah. Like that's got to happen. Yep. Okay. So that's question one question two we're gonna keep this in here another year dan bell will set a new all-time world record

i know his next meet is going to be the pioneer whatever that's called down in texas i think if they're competing in south padre and that's not too far away i think uh it's possible he set a record at that meet from what i my limited knowledge on it so i'm gonna say yes he will beyond that we also know what other meat he'd be talking about the mass dynamics lift hard live easy classic like how insane i was just classic. Like how insane. I was just thinking about that. How insane would that be? If the biggest power lifting total of all time happened in Aberdeen,

South Dakota, lift, hard, live, easy, classic. Why I don't think it'll happen there is because it's a, a combo rack.

Right. You know, so that's probably not what's going to happen there, you know, depending on what he wants to do and stuff. No doubt it's going to be extremely fun. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I do think we could see him break a Sleeves record at this point,

a Sleeves total record. So I'm going to say, I'm going to go with yes, we will. I'm going to agree with you on that one too. And I just like to bet on it. You're never wrong betting on Dan. Yes, it's always fun to bet on it you never you're never wrong yes yes yes it's always fun to bet on it for sure uh next on the list massonomics will have a booth at four events this year what was the number last year last year was three three was the number

last year so what did we do last year what did we do three or did we do four we got three last year year what did we do three or did we do four we got three last year Sioux Falls powerlifting meet Arnold and you did CrossFit right so we're we know we're in for the Arnold yep we know we're in for the mass time with lift hard live easy classic so that's two there's two right there um we haven't talked about it yet but I believe in March right in eastern southeast South Dakota. Now we do. Well, that's a different location, though, now, too, isn't it? It is, but it's still eastern southeast.

Right, right, right. But I'm just thinking as far as booth goes, I don't know if it's conducive for a booth. Right. It probably is. Yeah. So that's an option. And then, you know, Fargo is probably an option. So the question is, do we have four?

That, there could be the same CrossFit venues. I'm almost thinking four might be too low of a number. Yeah. I mean, you never know. Things can always come up as they do. I'll say yes. I'd feel really comfortable if it was three again saying yes, but especially with the two gimmies in there, I'll say yes. I'd feel really comfortable if it was three again saying yes, but especially with the two

gimme's in there, I'll say yes. That's what I'm going with too. Alright, you hinted at this one in the Discord just a little bit ago. Will Buddy Caps be on the podcast in 2022? 2023. He didn't make it in 2022. Will 2023 be the year?

Last year I said yes it will happen and it didn't happen. I'm going yes it's going to happen. I think we're we're gonna make it happen this year i feel like we have to will this one into existence so we are both going yes here it's just all building up to this now you know it's just all it's gonna crescendo with buddy caps here maybe we'll save it for um what this is 353 so will we hit episode we'll hit episode we'll just hit episode 400 in 2023. Yeah, we will actually. Yeah, it'll probably be, what, November-ish? So maybe that could be a 400 surprises, buddy caps.

Oh, okay, okay. Talking the number game a little bit now. What are we on Instagram this very moment? 44,93030 give or take give or take 44 930 i'm making a note of this right now yeah will we hit 50k on instagram the way it's going now no and that stuff's so subject to change didn't we say when we guessed this last time, didn't we kind of say like no, and then all of a sudden it took off a little bit and exceeded what we thought a little bit in 2022?

I think I have to actually have the number here. Our guess last year was will we hit 44 on Instagram? And here we're at 45. So the question is 50. Is 50 doable? It's doable. It's definitely possible. It's not an outrageous chance, but

just what I've seen lately trending, my answer, I think the money bet is no. I think you're probably right, but I don't want us to have the same answer on everything, so I'm going to say yes here. I want to be the optimist. I mean,

and I, it is very possible, especially like it just takes a couple, honestly, it just takes a couple things to hit and it could be there, but I hope so for sure. For sure. So,

uh, we need to get that. We need to get that 5,000 over the next 12 months. We got some work. That's not like in past years, we've exceeded that. And it's like, well, you think we're a bigger company got some work to do. That's not, like in past years, we've exceeded that. And it's like, well, you think we're a bigger company, it'd be easier to do.

It's just a function of Instagram at this point, though. That's what I'm betting on Mastodonomics, but against Instagram, kind of. I totally get it. All right, this one's maybe a little easier. We're currently at 458 podcast reviews. Will we hit 500? We're going to do that.

We're going to hit 500. I totally agree. We're definitely, because we'll push on that. We'll hit that. All right. We are at 330. Leave us a podcast review

so we can get to 500. So we're not wrong. And if you left one, grab your spouse's, significant other's, friends' phone, and leave a review on there. We need 500.

500 would look good. I think two-way lights doesn't even have 200, so let's just blow them out of the water. Yeah, let's just leave them in the dust. And we always have something big planned, so that's the other thing. You get rewarded, basically. Yeah, you're going to want to see what happens when we get lucky number 500. We are currently at 330 Spotify ratings.

Will we get to 450? I was hoping you were going to say 400. Mm-hmm. We are currently at 330 Spotify ratings. Will we get to 450? I was hoping you were going to say 400. It's too, I think it's too low of a number to say. Those are really, I have no pulse on what those are doing. I don't either. It seems like they're really moving up fast. So I'm going to say yes, that we'll get to 450.

I'm going to agree with you there. I don't check that, you know, that's not something I monitor. but that hasn't been around for much more than a year though. Has it? I don't not, not a long time. No. And we're at three 30. You could say we got all the low hanging fruit, but I think we could get to four. Yeah. So go give us a rating on, on Spotify too. So we can hit that. All right. Talking guests on the podcast last year, we wanted to know so we can hit that all right talking guests on the podcast last year we wanted to know if we could hit 42 guests and we i think hit about 44 45 depending on if you count multiple guests on the same show or not right we beat it by a few it was a pretty pretty good number i in my head i might be wrong but i i assume this year we'll do maybe a few less guests since we're remote podcasting now so I bumped the number down a little bit we will have the number here will we

have at least 35 guests on the podcast 35 so if you talking 52 weeks that's's leaving 17 off of there. What's that percentage-wise? So it's leaving about, what, one and a half off a month? Yeah, that'd be like, it's basically a third. Then a third of the time we wouldn't have guests. So every three episodes we will not have a guest. We're starting in this deficit with, you know, the way that this is. True the way that this is true yeah but this is really only a couple episodes though um uh-huh and some yeah because some of these do technically come out boy yeah no the the first two of the year will be

without one i think we'll hit 35 if it would have been 42 i would have said no but you're picking good numbers there where it really makes me think and but i think i think we'll probably hit 35 if i think of it as uh every out every three episodes that uh two of them are with a guest i think that that's what i think we'll do that i think i might have went a little too easy i think the real over under number there is about like 38 eight and a half that's probably the real number i think it is but i think i think we'll go over 35 i think we will that being said we have not actually had a guest on yet so we have no idea how that's gonna go right but i think it's gonna go good it should it should um i have this one on here i don't like this one this is a dumb one so i want to get a new one okay here we go uh i'm writing it out the gym will acquire

four new power bars of some kind i'm gonna go with no on that one because just because we've the the wish list on bars has become so low now. I don't know if we talked about it, but we added the Cadillac bar more recently. Okay, so if I take out even power bars and just say bars in general, is that a better one? I still think the answer is no, just because the only bars I really have my sights on now that we don't have

would be a all stainless steel bar. And I'm kind of wanting to get something besides Rogue just because. Yep, for some variety. And then also I've been thinking about the Alico, the granddaddy of the price tag. Because how much is the, I think the at least. Isn't it about 700? I think it might be 1,000.

Is it now? Maybe it's somewhere around there. Honestly, I haven't looked at that in five plus years. I thought about getting that for no other, literally no other reason other than just to have it. Was the Kabuki deadlift bar ever on the list or not? I mean, it's not not on the list. It's just not a priority, though, since we have the Texas, the O bar ever on the list or not i i mean it's not not on the list it's just

not a priority though since we have the texas the oaky and the rogue i'm like we don't have a need for a fourth deadlift bar okay well because you have a little more sway in this one i'm gonna i'm gonna bend this one in my favor a little bit and just say the gym will acquire three new bars in 2023 because i'm when that first thing comes up on facebook marketplace in february and someone's that's a good point here's uh that's what happens actually yeah yes and i'm gonna say the the gym will get at least three new bars this year and i'll say no but that's a good point actually i think that that's very possible that that would happen in that because that happened this year where it's like oh there's a yes point. Actually, I think that that's very possible that that would happen in that. Because that happened this year where it's like, oh, there's a Texas squat bar for sale at like half price. I'm like, well, yeah, I'm buying that.

Yeah, you can't not get that. And like that comes up at least like once or twice a year. So then it's like, okay, are you going to buy one new bar? Is there going to be a Facebook one? And then there's that wild card in there somewhere. What that's going to be. So I think three is a decent number there. That's good some things that are on the list are the rogue rhino belt squat we have a belt squat

but i've really been considering upgrading to the rogue rhino it's like 2500 bucks but pretty sweet piece of equipment from everything i've seen is that considered the about as good as it gets the the Rhino? In my opinion, yes. People would say the Westside Barbell, like the giant things, especially if you're a West, you know, if you're a whatever, a Louie Simmons enthusiast, Westside Barbell enthusiast, I think you'd lean towards those. But this steals some things from those anyways, I think.

But that's kind of what I think, yeah. I think it kind of is. I think it is. So that's on the list. Upgrading the sound system is definitely on the list. I think that'll probably happen in 2023. Like a big upgrade. That's just one of those real quality of life improvements.

Yeah, like make that like a big up. Not that what we have now is terrible or doesn't do the job. It's just kind of a big, cool improvement, I think. But at this point, we have so much of the equipment stuff, more people will get more marginal utility from the improved sound system. It is the one piece of equipment that gets used every single time. It might be the only piece of equipment that gets used every single time the gym is someone's else's gym. Right, right. So that's on the list then uh what i've been eyeing just as of recently is enormous kettlebells

like uh like they sell 200 pound kettlebells really yeah 200 so there's like an and they're usually kettlebells whatever they're usually in kilos so that's an odd number but it's like a 206 pound kettlebell i want one of those and then there's like a 206 pound kettlebell. I want one of those. And then there's like a one 78 and then there's a one 50. I want singles. So who makes those rogue? Oh, they do.

The shipping is ridiculous on it, but they're just, they look ridiculous. A 200 pound kettlebell is enormous. I mean, it's obvious, obviously is, but like,

it just looks ridiculous. So I want those huge ones ones and i don't know exactly what people will use them for but i think they will get used at times and also they just look uh wild that they're so big so i want to get some of those to for the kind of the strongman area at the gym yeah the monster kettlebell that thing is beefy yeah and then like a set of 100s and maybe you know a couple sets of like we just have sets up to like 55 now i'd like to get some sets in like the 70 range and stuff too so yeah the 203 pound is 320 dollars yeah what do you think the shipping is on that bad

it's like the shipping if you buy just that one is like a couple hundred dollars so to get that yeah yeah oh yeah right here please note all kettlebells over 70 pounds in weight will ship free yeah so that's why it doesn't make sense to just buy that 200 you know if i do it i buy like six or seven different ones and then the shipping's doesn't go up incrementally all that much so so that's a side track on some things that are on the list and like that's a thing there's no real real need for that but i just think it's one of those things it's another one of those things when you walk in and you go the hell is that for yeah wow i didn't even know they made those and here there's multiple of them sitting here yeah i kind of assume those things maxed out at like

maybe a hundred yes okay uh last one on my list we will podcast in december of 2023 and remember to cover these well with now that this is a thing i'm yeah i'm gonna say yeah we will i think we'll remember i think uh i would have forgot this last year luckily you remembered but i think we'll i'll even remember this next go around i agree i'm agree. I'm agreeing with you on that one. Okay, do you have some for us now? I had a couple, like, you know, us following strength sports. I had a couple there that I was going to hit on, and I was thinking the Dan Bell one.

I forgot that was already one, so I'm going to throw a twist to that, a different powerlifting one. John Hack, the question is, will he total over 2,300 pounds in 2023? His best meet, his highest total to date is September 24th of 2022. He totaled 2,270 pounds. So he's 30 pounds shy of it. I think he's going to.

He just still keeps improving like it's not like he's been at 27 or 22 70 for two years it's he just gets better every single meet i i don't know why you would say no at this point i don't think you could yeah and uh by the numbers that 22 70 he did it with a 766 squat a 60 601 bench, and a 904 deadlift. So I'm like, God, I don't know how much more he squeaks out of his bench and deadlift right now. I know. It does seem like just off of how these things typically go

that the squat is where there's ground to be made up, doesn't it? I'm like, I don't know. Maybe he can deadlift like 915 instead of 904. Yeah, I guess if you're deadlifting 904 yeah what what's 920 930 at that right um so you're saying yes i'm gonna say yes on that oh that just seems like so much at what he weighs but also it's kind of like, Dan, you know, I wouldn't really bet against him. I guess I think he'll improve his total in 2023. I guess I think he'll hit it. I think he'll figure out a way that he hits like exactly that number.

So I'll say yes. Yeah. It's what's at 30 pounds. He said he's got to make up. I mean, it's a decent amount of it to increase your total by 30 pounds, you know, like it's not nothing,

but then at the same time, like you say, ah, okay, can he put 15 on squat and then like seven on deadlift and what five on bench then? And then he's there. Yeah.

That seems doable. I wouldn't fault him if he doesn't get there, but it seems like he's very, very, very capable of doing it. And then I had two strongman ones. So the first one is, will Tom Stoltman win World's Strongest Man again? So will he repeat as World's Strongest Man?

That's the question. So it's kind of are you taking tom stoltman or the field really because if you're saying not him you'd be anyone else is going to win but so will tom stoltman win again i am gonna go no on this one there's a lot of really good competitors out there and i think it could be i mean it could just be a strong man more than anything it could just be anyone's day you know so i'm gonna say no he will not repeat yeah i'm gonna say no to just because of um there's too many variables he could get injured you know it's just injuries are just so easy to get injured yeah or come in just not at 100 and when you're getting the choice of one person versus the entire field and strong man like the way it's been over the last several years i would take the field although there's a

point in time where i would have said if it was half or i probably would have picked him over the field you know there's a point you know what what maybe would have been the better question here there will be a will this year will there be a new first time world's strongest man that's a good one uh that i would say no because now so many of them novakov martinez and soltman have all won it's true so i'm like oh there's they have big time favorites so i think one of them will win it yeah that would be a better question probably but i think my answer for that is yes that or my answer for that is no there won't be a first timer and i i'd say the same thing once you say that out loud of of who has right who's competing Yes, or my answer to that is no, there won't be a first-timer. And I'd say the same thing once you say that out loud of who has won and who's competing.

It just seems like, yeah, one of those guys are just such a favorite still, aren't they? I think so. Okay, so the last one that I've got, and this is maybe more interesting given our history of what we talk about with Strongman on the Math comics podcast is in 2023 world's strongest man will brian shaw finish in the top five at the finals will he be in the top five finishers the finals at world's strongest man good one um top five god he going to do something stupid like be second or eighth. Can I defer and let you go first? Yeah, I just wanted to see what place he got in 2022 exactly and see if that. Listen, he third.

Is that what it was was I could be wrong but hopefully Google doesn't do me dirty on this one and I can figure it out oh just ask chat GPT that is what we need okay I found it on Wikipedia so oh my god don't give me the heats first.

Final standings. Oh, no, he's not third. Fourth. He must have been like fourth or fifth. Yeah, he got fourth. Okay, there you go. 37.5 points in fourth, so he did make it there. Tom Stoltman, Martins, and Novikov all finished ahead of him.

And then Trey Mitchell is behind him. Maxime Boudreau, Luke Stoltman, Martins, and Novikov all finished ahead of him. And then Trey Mitchell is behind him. Maxime Boudreau, Luke Stoltman, Mitchell Hooper. Ah, I think he is not going to finish in the top five. I think he won't. And I've bet on him so many times over the years. Yeah, now that I was thinking he got third. Now that you say he got fourth this year, it makes me think he's not going to beat that.

But at the same time, I don't want to say the same answer as you because we're in agreement. He is pretty consistent. And like, he's going to be pretty good at most of the events, you know, like he's not going to do. And that's kind of how you,

I'm going to, I'm going to put you down as a no. And I'm going to say yes, just so that we're different. Yep. We only have one, two, three. We only have three that we're in,

that we're not in agreement on here. Those will be the crucial ones, the side who wins and loses this very important game here. That's right. All right, well, I like that. Okay, we are going to follow up. Let's pick a date out in December.

Let's see. December. Hmm. How does December 16th sound? Perfect. Yep. That's the date. That's the right date. Whoa, 2026.

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I think ChatGPT wrote this game. ChatGPT, write the rules of Over overrated underrated i'd love to see what it comes up with but there's a theme to this uh to this week's version of overrated underrated and uh you'll you'll pick up the theme as we go so i'm just going to jump into it i'm not going to tell you the theme you'll just have to you'll have to deduce what the theme is use my critical thinking skills to find the pattern and yeah yeah so you've got your druthers to elaborate as much or as little as you'd like on each one but you just have to remember you can't ride the line you have to ultimately decide if each topic is overrated underrated and if you're playing along

on massomics bingo that's mass at you can find that at massonomics.bingo on your browser um i probably just said like three things right there in the rules for over-under. So check them off the list. Someone just yelled bingo at the top of their lungs. We've got a good bingo. So first one, Tommy, overrated or underrated Birkenstocks? Birkenstocks. Clothing is always tough because it goes in waves, you know? I've never owned a pair

and I think that you could say based on that fact that I believe they're overrated because if I thought they were underrated, I probably would have purchased a pair by now. I did consider it for a moment, but then I'm like, I don't feel like that fits with who I am. I think they're overrated. I do think they're overrated. Birkenstocks are fairly expensive, right? Yeah, they're like $110 sandals with a cork sole on them or whatever they have. Yeah.

That's more so, when I think about it, I'm like, that makes me feel like maybe they're a little overrated for the price point they're selling at for what they are. But that's true with a lot of things and a lot of different, you know, that's just. To be clear, I have no problem spending a hundred plus dollars on a pair of footwear. Like that doesn't bug me at all. But I'm also not a huge sandal guy. That's just.

So, yeah. Yeah. I definitely think they're overrated. I don't really care for sandals that much in general. And then to spend that much on a pair that not that, um, it's like right now, right now. Okay.

I go to, I go to a commercial gym now and man, Nike blazers. Those are the fricking just everybody. That's like the official gym shoe. That's the gym. The yep. The,

the mid top, you know? Yep. And I had, cause nobody, I has those like at official gym shoe. That's the gym. The yep. The mid top, you know? Yep. And I had, cause nobody, I has those like at math dynamics gym. I don't think, no,

no, it's, it's, I thought it was the tick tock gym shoe. And then when I go to a gym, I'm like, damn, okay.

Yeah. There's guys and girls. I bet, I bet today, like I went today and it was the slowest day I've gone. Uh, you know, it's Christmas break.

So I think it's normally busy for kids. I'm usually like the oldest guy lifting weights. Right. I like to think of myself as the old wise guy there. But exactly it is. But I'd say even today there was probably, I don't know, 10 to 15 other people there, obviously all younger than me. And I would guess at least six of them had blazers on. Like it's just, that is the official gym shoe. And I love blazers. I had a few pairs of them. I thought they were so cool.

This was like, I'm doing the hipster thing. Like 10, 12 years ago, I had them and like no one really had them then. And that was what made them cool. And now everyone has them. And so I just like i i like blazers but now they're like scratched off my list of shoes i want to buy because they're just way too common it's almost the same thing with jordan ones like i think jordan ones are awesome looking shoes

but it's just the shoe that everyone wears and just the second everyone starts doing something i kind of like don't want to do that now so i'm yeah i'm saying overrated on birkenstocks okay to bring that back i had to remember which one i had asked you about so that was just still I'm yeah, I'm saying overrated on Birkenstocks. Okay. To bring that back. I had to remember which one I had asked you about. So that was just still the first one on Birkenstocks. Okay. Okay.

Overrated on Birkenstocks. And actually, we need to bring this back. One more thing. I, we've said this at the Arnold before. We've even said this in person before. We're like,

who buys, who actually buys and wears Jim shark and young LA stuff like who i've we never we say we never see people with those on have you seen that stuff at the gym go to a commercial gym people have that stuff on okay it's very popular with with the younger crowd at a commercial gym okay like it's very very common to see people wearing that stuff yeah we're in such a weird isolated thing at mass and i'm we are it's it's like kind of been eye-opening for me i'm almost getting uh it's almost like no everyone is wearing this stuff like everyone is like that yep it's like i'm kind of going to a gym for the first time in my life i'm like learning the the rules of the ropes over here

right yeah so it's yeah it's like all the jokes and stuff there actually are true they're not just like something like because for us they kind of are abstract jokes it is just like i just get the jokes because people are joking about it and it makes sense like i get what that person looks like in theory although i don't really see yeah we understand the concept of that yeah the meme of that but not like from actual experience and now i'm kind of getting it from actual experience that also while i'm ranting on the subject of it i do gotta say i do it is fun going to a commercial gym where there are other people there yeah because like massonomics it's great like i would pick massonomics any day but it's like the same three to ten of us there every time so you're never you're never caught off guard by anything you know there's no surprises ever no like that's

not a thing but here it's like every day is like, what the hell am I going to see today? What is going to happen? Like it could be anything. What's the Easter egg that I'm going to pick out of today's experience? It's you do. I think it's like a lot of things in life. I think,

I think the commercial gym is like the, like, I don't know the, the condensed down version of life where you really do see how people spend so much time on the wrong things and like, like worry so much about the wrong things. And if that's not like also, yes, if that doesn't just apply to life in general, I don't know what does, but like the amount of time that I see guys, and I don't want to sound overly critical because they're in the gym. That's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just the amount of time, and I think everyone probably recognizes this in themselves a little bit. Like the amount of time you see guys that like probably weigh, I don't know, 140-ish pounds. And I'm not saying they're five feet tall at 140. They're like closer to six foot. They're very, very skinny guys spending intense amounts of time on isolation arm exercises with 10 pounds. I'm like, that's not what's going to get you stronger.

30-minute ab workouts. Yes. You don't need to be holding, do these isometric bicep curls where each rep is like 30 seconds like that's not what's gonna do almost anything for you at all and you don't need to do like three different variations of bicep curls no and then when you're done with bicep curls you don't need to also go do like preacher bar curls and then also go do bicep curls on the cable machine too

yeah like like the problem your arms aren't small because you're not hitting biceps enough. It's because you weigh 140 pounds. They're never going to be big because you're too small. And just seeing stuff like that, it is really funny. And you want to be like, grab them, like, what are you doing? But also that's part of the game is you just have to like suffer through being dumb about things.

Well, we even talked about just the um the say dumbbell and cable area in general at massonomics gym usually when someone's in that area what i said is that it's like they already have one foot out the door they're almost done with their workout they're doing their last few things they're like it literally goes closer to the exit door and like they're literally getting closer to the exit door and like they're literally getting closer to leaving you know it's the cable machine and dumbbells are the closest you can get to the lockers in the door out of basically any equipment in the gym that is the flow of it too maybe maybe some people warm up a little bit in there then they get to the other

end of the gym and do their main stuff and by the end of it they're back over possibly to the uh dumbbell cable cable area finishing the last couple things. Then they're gone. Like, it's, you just don't see people spending a majority of their time in there. Where I would imagine you see people never leave that spot. Well, yeah, you don't know, I don't know anyone that's strong. And they're like, yep, I got this way by spending intense amounts of time, just insane amounts of time on the cable machine. Like, no one's ever said that right and when i think about the cable machine at this gym it's always

slammed it's always like if and if the cable machine's not slammed in front of the in front of the the dumbbells there will be eight benches and every bench will have someone on it just doing some dumb isolation exercise like it's it's comical that that a cable machine can have all right the the you know the double pulleys in the middle so one guy could be doing that and then on each of the ends there could technically be three you know one on the side yeah and then and then two on the ends there and so you could potentially have at any given point like i mean like seven people on a cable machine and at any point there's usually seven people on the cable machine like it's constantly busy it just blows

my mind that people like the cable machine that much yeah well it's easy and it is that is the thing it's easy and i usually have like one exercise a day that needs it and a lot of times it's hard to get that one exercise in. And I have seven potential spots I could do it. And I usually can't because there's that many people on there. It's nuts. Yeah, and we have the two at the gym. Can you ever recall like not being like, oh, it's full?

No. No, never. Well, and also people at the gym aren't dumbasses. Well, right. I don't know where this comes from. dumbasses well right i i don't know where this comes from i it's probably just i don't know it's so stupid to me okay if you're doing cable you know let's say you do lat pulldown yeah you go up to the thing you put the pin in your weight you do your reps you walk away from it but this is what people do in a commercial gym on anything

they get done the second they're done they just stay there on their phone like this is my area now and i'm like that why that doesn't happen at uh like i've never seen someone do that before but it's stupid behavior i mean it's dumb but i get it i guess if you have to guard it you gotta you gotta guard your spot because the next dumbass is gonna come and do the same thing but it's the same concept it is like why when you're doing like cable rows when you're done you sit on that bench on your phone for like five minutes until you start your next set and it's just because i guess you don't want the next guy to come and move the pin on you right it doesn't it doesn't make sense but that's what people do but then if it happens that i mean i relate everything to mass dynamics gym because it's all i know at this point but it's like well you get up and if the other person wants to use it he'd be like hey do you care if I

use this and he'd be like oh that's fine and then I know that's what I don't like and then you would use it next when you know it's just like yeah I went to go do lat pull downs the other day and there was a guy standing like right next to it and I couldn't tell if he was just hanging out there if he was using it I go hey man are you using this and he goes yeah and i go because i hadn't seen him use it i'm like yeah the lat pull down yeah i'm almost done okay i guess i won't move your pin on you like sorry it's just it's so bizarre oh it's so funny because i've it's just i've done it before but it's just been so long and this is and it sounds like i'm complaining a lot but i am finding some entertainment in all this too like it is like i'm discovering a world that i forgot exists no i

think it's more interesting than it is even it's not even like necessarily frustrating it's like that's really that's really what's what it's like out there and smith people still squat on smith's machines it's still just still really surprises me on that one like i don't it's weird it's weird so is there one smith machine in your gym or there is one smith machine there's there's four racks actually no there's six racks and one smith machine and the smith machine gets some mileage on it which just really surprises me i kind of thought those things had a bad enough rep yeah people i could see some people doing like some type of arm exercise or something like that there was a used one that came up for sale not that long ago and like if we had a limited room

like at the price i would have bought it because i'd be like but it's just a matter of uh you know is this more valuable than the next piece i could put in the same footprint? It's like, no, not in our case. Yeah, and that's, yeah, I don't think Smith's machines are a total waste and just the sub-dumbest device in the world. But at the same time, like, I don't know if you're a teenage boy and you have 20 pounds on the Smith machine and you're doing squats. I don't know if that's the best use of your workout is to be doing squats on the smith's machine at 85 pounds

like i just don't think that makes any sense no so birkenstocks are overrated so i guess to bring that full circle yes birkenstocks are overrated okay overrated or underrated crocs i also i've always thought crocs are overrated. I've never owned a pair. But at the same time, I've never owned a pair either. And they've been around so long and they've gone in and out of fashion so many times that it's almost like they've transcended all of that now.

And they just are what they are, which that almost makes me want to give them a pass and be like, nah, like the rules don't apply to Crocs. But I don't know. I still think they're a little overrated. Okay. want to give them a pass and be like nah like the rules don't apply to crocs but i don't know i still think they're a little overrated okay i would have used to said like they were super overrated i'm bringing that down to a little overrated i've never even put my foot inside of a croc i haven't

either i haven't either they're probably super comfortable and awesome but i'm saying they're overrated overrated or underrated and actually on that subject i did see a kid hang cleaning with crocs on the other day that's a i'm not mad i'm actually impressed well he missed it and i'm gonna think it was probably because yeah so there's people doing hang cleans in there there was a guy doing hang cleans yeah have you seen anyone squat over 400 pounds no the very first day I was there, the heaviest squat, I saw the heaviest squat I've ever seen, and the guy was squatting 365 for some doubles.

Have you seen anyone bench 315? No. I'm not sure I've seen anyone bench over 225 yet besides me. I did see a kid pull five plates for a double and i mean it was an rp15 it was insane that he got it and i was happy for him was it he was very very it was conventional and he he kept his form pretty you say anything to him no i didn't he was with his buddies and they were living you could tell he's super jacked i was excited for him um i was i was just shocked that he got it for a double i was like hey you do you man that's awesome he kept it pretty clean but uh that would be that would be the actual single biggest lift i've seen in

that gym so far all right uh overrated or underrated yeezys. They're overrated. They are. And now people are, I think it's really funny now. So, you know, obviously Kanye has gone totally out the deep end saying he loves Hitler and all this stuff. And, you know, all these brands are dropping him. And Adidas has now said, you know, that they're going to release Yeezys just without him. And it's really, really funny. A lot of people seem to think that, I mean, they were Yeezys by Adidas. That's what the box and everything said. It's Yeezys by Adidas. And I'm pretty sure some like patents and all this stuff came out a while ago, like listing the designers on the shoes and, you know, he doesn't own any of the patents or have anything to do with any of the shoes. I haven't looked much into this,

but I'm pretty sure that there was, it was just like, Hey, we have these designs. We just only need you to stamp your name on these just to sell them. Right. He was a lot of people seem to think he was deeply. Yeah. A lot of people seem to think he was deeply, deeply involved in design process and all this. I don't think that was the case, which is really interesting because now a lot of the i did like a lot of the silhouettes like that is the thing in the shoe space there's not a lot of companies that make new silhouettes it's it's just new colorways that's all companies do and even then they can come up with a new colorway and it can totally tank because people don't like those colors and then they can change two colors on it and a shoe that would not sell is now worth thousands of dollars not because it's any more rare or not sell is now worth thousands of dollars.

Not because it's any more rare or better materials. It's purely because of the colors, which is the insane part about shoes. But I mean, yeah, Yeezys are overrated, especially when you look at the resale on them. Like the resale going on tons of them for 400, 500,000, you know, into the thousands. Like that's too much. Like those shoes are not that cool.

And this is from a guy that owns a pair of yeezys too right um i would have bought more but they just they were kind of a little always a little hard to get and then the resale was stupid so yeah i'm saying overrated okay last one and this one is worth all the marbles have you noticed what the theme is or it seems to be footwear footwear do you have any guess what the last one is uh you're not gonna you're not gonna guess it okay so overrated or underrated hey dudes they're so overrated there's a they're overrated um and that being said i've never had a pair of any of the four pieces of footwear on this. Yeah, there's a lot of memes going around.

And I'm sure they're comfortable. I do not knock it. You don't got to tie them. They're the easiest, most convenient thing. They fall in line with Crocs and Birkenstocks, basically. But there's all the memes of the Midwest guy look because those shoes are at every freaking store in the midwest you can buy them at like buy them in bulk i'll have seven pairs of hey dudes please um yeah to me that just looks if you're wearing those it kind of looks like you gave up on caring about style in any way and not even just like caring about style but like even just like all

right i gotta just put the bare minimum effort into leaving the house and um like i said i'm sure they're comfortable but you will not catch me wearing a pair of those uh there's other brands there's other brands that make footwear very i actually owned a pair of vans in the day back in the day that looked very very similar to that almost i would say even the same but again it's one of those things where it's like it's just just taken middle America by storm. And when something takes middle America by storm, watch out, it's not very fast.

God. Yeah. Watch out. Yeah. So I'm going, um, overrated on that. So I think you,

I didn't know if, I didn't know if maybe you're going to catch me on like maybe new balance on the last one. I was thinking maybe that would be more interesting. Maybe the, the, the sort of more like just, yeah,

that would be a more interesting take probably. Cause you overrated uh all four of these that i over and maybe i just hate everything footwear wise that's well actually i'm at the i'm at the point i was just thinking about this today i'm like all right like yeah there's a lot of nikes that are cool but at the same time everyone wears nikes and then yeah there's a lot of adidas that are cool but a lot of people wear adidas and that's like the only freaking shoe i bought in for the last four years adidas and i'm riding the new balance train right now and uh i mean it's definitely like a look like you can definitely look like an old dad wearing them but that's kind of getting to be what's back in style and their materials are a little more premium than most companies i think

they've always been a um functionally and like durability wise a very sound shoe right like even if the style was poor yeah and like you can get ones that are actually made in america made in america is loose like that i think for them to consider made in america it has to be like 70 percent between let's be honest they're still going to use a little bit of sweatshops oh yeah exactly yes yeah just not like 100 sweatshop like adidas and nike um see i've been thinking about buying a pair of reebok shoes for years i might just do it someday i might just pull the trigger and buy a pair just might pull that trigger yeah i keep i keep going to new balance over and over and i probably would

have bought a pair of rebox by now except for you you got me that pair of shoes once however you know whether that was a year i got you the ultra boost so i'm good for like five more years now so exactly yeah you're set away yeah i don't it just for me new balance seems to be the one that has exciting stuff going on and maybe i think they still are overrated after you get like so if you look at what's going on with shoes it's just so much Nike Jordan Adidas like something different is needed and New Balance is kind of killing it in that space right now with premium materials fun colors and also they got some pretty wild silhouettes out there so I think they got some exciting stuff going on. But not hey dudes.

But not hey dudes. No. Nope. Nope. You won't find me there. Good news. It looks like you passed overrated and underrated. So congrats to that.

There we go. There we go. I think that passing grade is in, deserves yourself a little, you earned yourself a little something over there. Oh, oh. Cool beans. Cool beans., whoa. Cool beans. Cool beans. Beans.

Cool beans. I almost forgot to serve those up. Yeah. Thank goodness you did, though. Oh, I think we should bring this one closer to a landing now at this point. We've been hitting it hard in Studio 6.9 today. I think as you're listening to this, important to note, when this comes out, I think we're about 20 weeks out from the Mastodonomics

Lift Hard Live Easy Classic. 20 is all? 28. Yeah, 28 weeks out from. Oh, 28? Well, geez. Close your eyes and open them. It'll be here. Hashtag meat prep is in full swing. Don't worry about anything else from this point forward. Just all meat prep. I think there's going to be a fair number of juggernaut programs that

all have the same meat day in it, isn't there? Yep, July 22nd is going to break the juggernaut app if it ever could be done. The database says, no, there's too many meats on the same day. Not this many people are supposed to peak at once. That's too much peak. It's too much for our AI systems. This is peak, peak.

So 28 weeks out, hashtag and hashtag meat prep. Make sure to check out our store at massanomics.com. We've got a whole bunch of stuff for sale. We just this week restocked the classic lift shorts, the one that the granddaddy of all, the one that started it all, the Champion Mesh black shorts. For those of you. Underrated.

Yeah, very underrated. For those of you underrated yeah very underrated for those of you that are not good with just the plain ones you buy the lift ones um just as unaffordable as ever back and more expensive than ever the massomics lift shorts what else did we restock oh lift banner reset i'm i can just literally look around the room now and tell you what we do have and what we don't have. Just fire them off. We've got a good selection of dad hats right now. We've got dad hats in four colors. Just talking about it with your brother and some other people at the gym today, what our favorite colors of the dad hats were.

Flying Orion just went with the rose recently, which is maybe an underrated colorway on the dad hat. I like the oak, which the oak is the tan color. I think the oak is the most underrated dad hat color that we have it's probably the most underrated color it's also the most understated color that's true i like it so much i keep thinking about taking one of those but i haven't yet either do it i'm thinking about it one of these days i might get that in that pair of rebox shoes a lot of our tees we've got good stock of right now, so get a tee. We still have pennant flags for

sale. I've got one of those behind me on the wall. And then our hats, don't buy those. That room was really hearkening when you turned the camera on. I thought something felt hearkened in here. I can see it, and it's really putting out a vibe. That does kind of hearken back

to that guy in like a college dorm room there like uh it really harkens to something like clothes everywhere there's a flag on the wall this guy's definitely in college he looks 35 yeah freaking asher off over here getting wasted i love women hey i love college now that song really harkens back doesn't it that really harkens to about 2010 it really harkens just like our pennant flags buy all that stuff lift hoodie is restocked so we do still have the lift hoodie. I think in all sizes, small through up to a big boy, four X, but three X and four X usually sell out kind of quick.

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