Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 356: Josh Bryant Jailhouse Strong

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

Big Josh Bryant of Jailhouse Strong joins us for this one to discuss the best gas stations in Texas, the strongest man you maybe have never heard of, and why Waffle House is a life experience! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://store.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcast and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! side and everything. Massonomics. Welcome back everyone for episode 356 of the Massonomics podcast. Of course, we're the lifting podcast about nothing and recording this live from Western Northeast, South Dakota and Eastern Southeast, South Dakota. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. All right. I had to have you give me the green

light. Did you like, was it a good strong hand signal? There was no debate. It felt like we're really making a movie over here or something though. Action. Oh, we got a banger this week. We got a special guest coming up, big Josh Bryant and all kinds of things to get to. Tommy made his first trip back to western northeast South Dakota here recently. That's probably the biggest news, right? It is. There is a lot to cover. I think maybe we should hop into ads before we get carried away. Yeah, we can't dive into all of that just yet, right?

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And while you're there, make sure to use code MASSANOMICS to save 10% on your next order. Thank you, Barefoot Shoes. Thanks, Barefoot. Tommy, so you did make the trip back, didn't you? I did, and I got to ask right away, Tanner. We'll get into the details of that, but the world's been dying to know you finally got to try double-dip wings.

Do they hold up to the hype at all? Double-dip wings. So let me lay out the, set the scene for you. Yes. We were at the circus, of course, where- And when we say the circus, we're talking about the bar named the circus. We weren't actually at a circus. No, the circus, sports bar, and grill, the place that made Double Dip Wings famous.

Them along with you, Tommy, made Double Dip Wings famous. And I can't remember if you suggested it or if we had, and I had already, well, you'd made a cop. It was getting late and you'd made a comment about possibly getting food somewhere. And I said, you're at the circus Tanner get double dip wings.

And it was like 11 o'clock at night. It was getting late. So yeah, I made the suggestion that I didn't know if you were going to do it, but then you, you put the order in. We got it. We had to get,

and then we're going to eat there, but we had to get, because my wife also, my wife also ordered the double-dipped wings. But we ended up having to take them to go, last-minute audible, and get them to go, and we went home and ate them. And I, like, I have to caveat with it, given the situation. You know when you've been out, like, out drinking or whatever, and you're really hungry at the end of the night, it's hard to beat any food at that point. Like every food just gets like a, if any food's a

five, it's almost always a nine, at least at that point then, because it's just, yeah, there's that magic. So because like, I don't know if that's a factor or not, but they tasted delicious. I thought they were awesome, but you know, I don't know, like's a factor or not, but they tasted delicious. I thought they were awesome. But, you know, I don't know. Like, it was kind of like a little bit of a tainted first run, but I thought they were great. I would have given them, like, a 10 out of 10. Yep, yep.

I don't think your judgment's too clouded there. Yeah, that's how I felt, too. I believe I've been on record saying they are my favorite wings. They were really good, and I could take, you know so it i don't know which order they did it or how it works but it felt like the outside was very barbecue but yet then i was getting the uh that vinegar buffalo yeah i was getting that and my wife made the comment like oh i can't really tell but like it just seemed like barbecue wings to her. Yes.

But I could definitely tell. But she also got boneless, so that's a whole different thing, too. Yeah, I feel like that changes a little bit. The other thing to keep in mind is I will still say that any time you take food home from a restaurant, it's never as good as just sitting there and eating it. That's true, too. Because at bare minimum, it's five minutes older. Probably more than likely by the time you get home, get everything out. It's 10 minutes older. And if someone sat food in front of you and said, wait 10 minutes before you can eat it and say,

no, it's not going to be as good. So it, they might be even better still, uh, the second time around. They may have, they, at the time they seemed like the best wings I'd ever eaten. Like I would even put it in that category. I'm excited to get them again now to see how I, what I think the next time, but I thought they were, I thought they were worth the hype. All right. All right. So like maybe even underrated still from what it, even from what we talked about. I always get surprised because I assumed everyone knew this existed. And even your wife, who is a local goes, what are you guys talking about? She had no idea. So apparently this is part of the hidden menu that, uh, only, only certain people know. Oh, they were good. Okay. Well, that, that makes me feel good. You know, I had been hyping them up for a while. I was afraid you're going to say, you know, they were good, but for how much you talked about them, they actually

were not that good, but no, no, no, that's not my takeaway at all I thought they were awesome all right all right that makes me happy to hear uh so that's good we also yeah I did make my my return back to the motherland uh this past weekend I didn't go to the gym or anything it was kind of a quick trip but uh we got to go back yeah and like we were saying we got to go out a little bit uh I think I didn't get home till after midnight which for me these days is getting to be pretty late. But I did have a lot of fun. Yeah, I don't really remember exactly what time we left, but I suppose it was before midnight or whatever. But I remember thinking it was pretty late for me.

It was. It was getting late. Let's just say we got toe up from the flow up. I don't know if I'd quite say that. Yeah, that might be a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe it was more of a state of mind, though. Yeah, there's a lot of hashtag meat prep talk. There was.

A number of days out. Speaking of this just in, meat prep update. We are under 180 days out now from the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic. That's very exciting. Oh, and we also do have, before now from the lift hard live easy classic that's very exciting oh and we also do have before that the arnold coming up uh we have news about maybe there'd be some native western northeast south dakotans making the trip out to the arnold this year oh that is exciting news we uh a number of uh supporting members here that um gym and supporting members here that Jim and supporting members together that would be making the trip.

And of particular note, Larry Legend, of course, right? That's the one that everyone wants to know about. Yes, I think that is probably the most noteworthy, is that allegedly Larry Legend, along with a few other guys from the gym, will be making the trip. Yes, allegedly will be making the trip out east. Big Caden, Big Mason, Big Justin, and of course, Larry Legend. I expect there will be a few Larry Legend call-outs at the booth.

So I'm excited for that. So get your Larry Legend signs ready. Your Larry Legend calendar and photos so he can sign them when you see him in person. Yeah. Do we need to promote that? Like a Larry Legend meeting like Saturday from 1 to 2? Ah, meet and greet. Meet Larry Legend at the booth.

Like where he'll sign autographs? Yeah, I like that. I think we need to do that. Like bring all of your like 30-year-old Inzer really small singlets and he'll sign them for you. Bring all your

25-year-old blue Inzer singlets with a one and a half inch inseam and he'll sign them for you and wear your work boots too yeah work boots get caught wear your work boots and jeans and literally have just come from work like even though the arnold's probably like a 20 it's you know it's like a 20 hour drive he's still not gonna go like he'll have to do it where he just gets off work and then damn was he doing construction before he got here it's like what like that like it's a day and a half drive like he couldn't have just got to the arnold was he helping and i oh yeah out front they had a water leak in the main break and they knew i was here so i hopped in the backhoe and i either expect that or being like yeah you know i'm gone but I had to do some remote work. Well, what does that mean? Is he on the computer? Was

he actually working somewhere? They're having me drive the excavator from here. It's good stuff. That is exciting news. It looks like you, if I'm seeing right behind you, it looks like you brought something back from Northeast South Dakota. I did. It's so confusing for me because I have two monitors for my recording camera and one of them mirrors me and one of them does not mirror me. So depending on what screen I look up on one hand, my right arm's up and on the other one, my left hand's up. Right. And I actually have my webcam mirroring me too. So I have three cameras and two different angles going on. But why does one of of them not what do you mean by not mirror like um i don't know one of them when i put my right hand up it's on the right hand side of the

screen and i really when it's on the left hand side of the screen it well it's because the one knows when it's turned around the other one is meant to be the other the other screen is meant to be viewed from behind the camera but i have it turned around so I can see me. So I'm getting, I'm getting mixed signals on, uh, on what's going on here, but yeah, it's, um, I got the drink spotter over here, but, uh, still didn't have enough time. You know, we're recording on a weird time right now. So I haven't, my whole lighting setup changes during the day. It's so bright in this room that the ambience is kind of, kind of tore up. It's off.

Yeah. Yeah. So we'll get, we'll get this all dialed in still but and like i said we've been doing that for we've been dialing it for weeks now that keeps dialing and dialing yeah it does is that made in america from stainless steel your eyes are not fooling you that is of of an 11 gaugegauge thickness? Wow. It absolutely is. Laser cut, it looks like. Wow. Laser cut, yep. Don't forget that part. That looks safe. Yeah.

So someone asked about the fulfillment center. No windows down in the fulfillment center, so day or night is not relevant in the old Mass Anomics FC. Yeah, one of the beautiful parts of being in a basement and also in the middle of the house, right? Well, yeah, yeah, it is. Really, yeah, there's really no, yeah. There is no options for windows.

It's like a Vegas casino. You have no idea if it's day or night. You just keep going, right? That's why you just keep gambling. And you just keep smoking and drinking while you're down there too, right? Anything goes. Do you have any beverages over there on your own? Actually, you know what?

I do. I'm getting it i uh busy day whoa scooters cold brew baby and so i'm not sure scooters if that's around other parts of the country if that's just a upper midwest thing it's probably everywhere but they don't have uh for people that aren't familiar with it it's a little coffee drive-thru they do not have it's a little coffee drive-thru. They do not have an inside restaurant. It's drive-thru only. And I am partial to their cold brew. Is there one in western northeast South Dakota? There is.

There's a lot in eastern southeast South Dakota. Yeah, I would imagine. It's actually, oh, now that looks refreshing. Yep. That's maybe not what you think it is. Can you tell the flavor by the color of the can? Well, I was going to say like raspberry or strawberry. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's raspberry. It's a raspberry bubbly. It tastes all that much sweeter when you drink it right out of a drink spotter. The cold metal keeps it cold. This is my new prop for the podcast. I like it. You know what? All right. talking on the subject

of food anyone else from the midwest may have input on this as well but we have hyvees there's a lot of hyvees where there's a helpful smile in every aisle you nailed it you know did you actually used to work at hyvee in college too too, Tanner? No. Oh, just Menards? Yeah. I just know all the jingles. And it's been a long time. I remember when I was in college more, I had some buddies that lived in a town with a Hy-Vee, and we'd get Hy-Vee Chinese, Hi-Chai. We'd get Hy-Vee.

And getting back to Hy-Vee Chinese, man, $10, double entree meal, a bunch of rice, and a crab rangoonoon or an egg roll. That is so, it's so good. And sure. As far as Chinese food goes, I don't even know how it, uh, how it compares, but man, it is, I love it. I can't get enough of it. It's so good. You just 10 bucks. And there's so much meat in there along with rice. I, uh, it's, it's been one of my hotspots since I've moved to the area here i'd be all over that what do you give your uh scooters uh cold brew coffee what rating do you give it uh it's tricky because we're kind of on a different scale now we're on a cold brew scale

we're on the scooters cold as far as cold brew goes i think it's pretty good i give it about a four this is one of my preferred cold brews okay it doesn't have an overly like weird taste some cold brew is weird i don't know i think this is good yeah i give the uh raspberry bubbly a three and a half it's pretty it's it's right there where it should be i guess yeah yeah i believe that i don't know if i've had have we done raspberry on the show before do you know know? I'm not sure. Someone could probably check the anals, but I guess there's no way we'll ever know. Yeah.

Okay. Let's see. What part of this do we want to talk about next? Maybe we should play. Maybe we should play. Has he seen it back by popular demand yeah because people have everyone's been bitching about not having has he seen it for the last couple of episodes so everyone wants to know have you seen it and i think we got to do it i i agree let's

let's get it going okay so has he seen it you probably don't even remember what year we're going to be on. I've been thrown. You've been switching it up on me. I have no idea. For all I know, we're going to be back in black and white movies or something. We're going to go. I hope your computers are ready for this because we're going to go Y2K.

Oh, baby. That's okay. I unplugged it from the internet before we got started here. Should be fine then. Okay. So has he seen it? You remember how we play? I got a list of movies here from the year 2000, and each one we'll find out have you really seen it or not.

And you're just going to fire them off. Yeah, 1999, you got five out of seven. In 2000, we're going to go for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay, seven again. I think I'm going to go five. I think I'm going to go for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Okay, 7 again. I think I'm going to go 5. I think I'm going to go 5. I was kind of hitting my stride here. 2000 is kind of like 1999 where there's way too many obvious movies.

I didn't pick the top 5 because we've all seen it. I also didn't pick all the hardest ones in the world but i just picked a little bit different variety here but still hitting on a few different genres and you're in for a treat because some of them this week are going to be audio clues for you oh all right so not just your just your masterful descriptions of no no we'll uh so if we're ready well here's the first one. Here's the first audio clue on has he seen it the year 2000. Dude, where's my car?

Where's your car, dude? Dude, where's my car? I have probably seen 70 times, if not more. That might be out of every show we've ever had on this list the movie i've seen the most you see the most yeah oh god i that year 2000 so what am i 11 ish then like 11 by the time it came out on video i was probably 12 you know maybe 13 even yeah oh that is prime dude where's my car is a prime movie for people in that age as far as what you think is funny.

What's humorous, yeah. Oh, God, it did all the right things. I love Dude, Where's My Car. I probably haven't seen it in a little while. I haven't seen it for a really long time. Actually, you know what? I remember. I remember because I was thinking,

why did I watch this recently? It was on a flight. It was on a flight I was on a flight in the last two years and it had movies on it and one of the movies to pick from was dude where's my car and I watched it on a flight and still laughed quite a bit I tried to get my wife to laugh with me and she fell asleep in the first 10 minutes so it was it was I was all alone but I was I was enjoying it a lot I mean I knew you had seen that one, but I also couldn't take all of them off. Sometimes I just want to talk about the certain movies

that go on the list. That was a pretty iconic one as far as comedies go. There was a lot of repeatable lines. So that's what, Ashton Kutcher and... Sean William Scott. There you go. Yeah, yeah. Right, right.

Yeah, that's a. Right. Yeah. That's a good one. So starting off one for one. So number two, has he seen it? Boiler room. Who's in that one? I got to look.

I don't think. Boiler room is Ben Affleck. And then Vin Diesel is also in boiler room. And then there's some other people you'd know too, but those are the two that come to my mind right away. I was thinking of Panic Room, which I have not seen. Panic Room, that's a woman. Isn't that Halle Berry in that one?

Maybe. I was thinking the woman from Silence of the Lambs or something like that. I don't know. Maybe I'm just thinking of Silence of the Lambs, actually. That is... Oh, Jodie Foster. Jodie Foster. There you go. Yeah, Sam Sinaito as well. maybe I'm just thinking of Silence of the Lambs actually that is oh Jodie Foster Jodie Foster

I have not seen that one either hate to ruin that for you but no have not seen Boiler Room not even sure what it's about it's um I might be confusing a few movies but it's uh I'm actually testing you now because I have the synopsis right here

so I'm flipping the script on you I have seen it a few times. It's good. From what I remember, I really like Boiler Room, but I haven't watched it in a long time. But I think Ben Affleck is running this place, and one of the other main characters, he comes in there. He wants to be on Wall Street and stuff, and he can't make it out of their place,

so he winds up at this place. And it's kind of like, I don't know if it's a Ponzi scheme. Maybe it's a Ponzi scheme, Maybe it's a Ponzi scheme or maybe they're just they're doing something shady. And like they're all kind of making money in their quasi Wall Street. You know, they're kind of doing what real traders are doing. And then it crumbles on them. That's what I think. I'm going to give you like an eight out of 10 as far as the synopsis there.

If you want the concise version, it would be a college dropout attempting to live up to his father's high standards gets a job as a broker for an investment firm which puts him on the fast track to success but the job might not be as legit as it first seemed to be right there you go you nailed it so you're one out of two oh boy i can't i can't miss too many more here okay next one has he seen it snatch oh yeah yes uh it's guy richie right is that who directed those i don't know snatch lock stock and two smoking barrels uh yes yes i have seen snatch oh yeah brad pitt uh you like dag brad that whole thing yeah yeah what's he saying he's like he's asking if you like dogs? Brad Pitt. That whole thing. Yeah. What's he saying? He's like, he's asking if you like dogs. Yes, I have seen that.

Good movie. I figured you'd probably seen that, but that could be an up in the air one too. You know, I don't think it's a gimme that people have seen Snatch probably 22 years later. Yeah, that's, yeah, Guy Ritchie. It's very like stylized in how they do a lot of stuff. And I'm all about that. So yeah, I enjoyed that one. Have not seen it in a very long time though.

Me either. Okay. You're two of three right now. For the fourth one, we're going to go back to an audio clue on this one. All right. Well, everyone else would have been able to hear it. So yeah, I'm sorry, Wilson! Wilson, I'm sorry!

Well, everyone else would have been able to hear it. Zoom's doing its thing where it's really hard to hear. Yeah, but everyone else will be able to hear that fine. So it is Cast Away. It was Tom Hanks yelling at Wilson. Okay, it's funny because at first I thought you were maybe playing a Toy Story clip because in my mind it sounded like Tom Hanks. And my boy loves Toy Story right now.

That movie plays every day in our house. So I have seen Toy Story in case you were wondering. We'll get to that later. I have not seen Castaway. I've never seen it. I know I've been on record on the show that I love Castaway. It's one of my favorite movies. And I don't even have a good explanation of why that is.

favorite movies and I don't even have a good explanation of why that is but uh I often even well I've watched it a bunch of times and I can definitely fall asleep through it because they're you know the the movie has like no talking for what seems like hours you know over an hour at at points in it but um I just really like Castaway yeah I I would love to watch that one i've just never done it two out of four so far okay next one has he seen it american psycho oh yeah i've seen american psycho multiple times it used to be one of those movies where for whatever reason we'd get home from the bar at you know two three in the morning and it was let's's turn American Psycho on. Kind of a weird movie to turn on then, but it's a classic. It is one of those cult classics.

You got to watch it. Yeah, I got to return some tapes, you know, that whole thing. He is, Christian Bale is, just plays this crazed psycho guy so well. It's, yeah, you should definitely watch that movie. There's a lot of notable scenes from that. There is.

The business card thing is, you know, people bring up that one a lot. Yeah, the business card scene, the one with him having sex, looking at himself in the mirror, that's a meme that gets used all the time. I like the one, use it for a meme years ago for Mastodonomics, where he's going through his morning routine of, like, his exfoliating. Yes, his skin care and all that. Yeah. Yeah, that is a classic. His skincare and all that. Yeah. Yeah.

It's that is a classic. People should definitely watch that one. Yeah. All right. Three for five. Next, we're going audio clue again. So we'll see how well you can hear this, but we'll go audio clue. I don't want pop.

God damn it. I'm a dapper Dan man. You need to hear it again? Nope, nope, nope. Oh, Brother Where Art Thou? Yes. Yes, I have seen it multiple times. That is a good movie.

It's a fun movie. That is a fun movie. I also love Oh, Brother Where Art Thou? I had to put that one on the list just because I love that movie. I think, I don't know how well, I mean, obviously a very popular movie, but it seems maybe a little underrated to me. I don't know how well, I mean, obviously a very popular movie, but seems maybe a little underrated to me. I don't know. I remember at the time thinking that seemed when I was, what, like I said, 11.

I remember at the time thinking that that seemed like it was a really big movie. It didn't quite relate to me at that time, and I never watched it. It probably wasn't until I was in my early 20s that I actually watched it, but it is fun. They got the whole catchy song thing going. Yeah, yeah. And they're on the run. Zoggy Bottom Boys.

Yeah, that's a fun movie. Okay, you said yes to that one. So what are you now? Are you a four for six? Four for six. Agency Castaway or Boiler Room. Okay, last one. Has he seen it? I think you've, last one. Has he seen it?

I think you've probably seen it. Have you seen it? Little Nicky. I have seen Little Nicky, and I have only seen this movie once. I saw it in the theaters, and that was it. So I remember almost nothing about this movie other than getting the flask.

Yeah, getting the flask. That's what I remember about that movie. I was going to pull an audio clip for it, and that was the one I was going to pull, but I didn't get in the flask. Yeah, get in the flask. That's what I remember about that movie. I was going to pull an audio clip for it, and that was the one I was going to pull, but I didn't get to that. That was also a thing we used to like to say a lot when we were younger. It was really funny to do.

I remember so little of it, but I have seen it. I still couldn't pull out a flask or have someone pull out a flask and not say, get in the flask. Is it Cassius? Is that the guy? That sounds right. get in the flask. Is it Cassius? Is that the guy that, that sounds right? Get in the flask, Cassius.

Not one of Adam Sandler's top tier comedy movies. I think that was the beginning of a bit of a downward trend for him. Cause he, he had been on a pretty hot streak up until that point. And then it showed, okay, this guy's capable of making movies that aren't as funny as what he's done in the past. And then his track record's been very spotty since then.

So you finished a pretty respectable 5 for 7 in the year 2000. I called it. Yep, called your shot. I guess you could say I'm a bit of a movie guy. That's starting to look that way, isn't it? It is starting to look that way. Okay. How about a little supporting our supporting members?

I like it. Um, this is a relative, when I say little, this is relatively little. I have a shorter, shorter segment this week, supporting our sporting members for no one that doesn't know.

This is a relatively new segment of the massomics podcast. We have a group of sporting members that choose to sign up for our supporting membership. And each week, one of the things we do is give back to them through this segment we shout out any of them that maybe did something cool maybe they competed in a power lifting meet a strong lift strongman competition or just anything cool in your life if we're aware of it we'll like to throw it in here and give them support in addition to that if you're a supporting member you get access to our online Discord community, which is a growing community of like-minded individuals.

It's extremely active. It's going on all the time. You get access to a discount code. You get special information on drops. You might get early access to signing up to powerlifting meets that we put on. That's been a perk that you've gotten in the past. And really too many things to mention here today or else we'd just have a whole podcast about how good our supporting membership options are.

So this week, we want to support Big Justin. Big Justin did a powerlifting meet where he squatted 397. Squatted.397. He benched.236. And he deadlifted.452 for a.1085 total. So well done, big strong Justin. Next time, 1100's going down. Yep.

I guess also good call out, big shout out to Big Nate for taking sexy plates with the Strength Co. plates. Yes. You have to be a member of the discord to know what that's about yeah those are exclusive to the discord so thank you to all of our supporting members one final shout out it was also your birthday tanner oh it was recovering from the party yeah it was a wild wild birthday party for me uh turn turn the big uh submasters plus one party for me turn turn the big uh submasters plus one or as some other might call it 36 when's actual masters 40 40 40 so you can say masters minus three masters yeah yeah i'm getting close right that's uh every day submasters window is really closing in on me. Your prime is escaping you. Yeah.

That's alright. That's alright. That's all for our support. You said you had one other person before I cut you off there. Oh god, what was it now? What was I talking about? Supporting members. Oh, one other thing. The Discord crew

patches went out this last... Everyone was getting those this last week. As an additional support to our supporting members, the secret package that we've been working on has not been delivered to everyone, but a lot of you by now would be the crew

patch, so you are all now officially patched members. Except for the three so far that I've gotten notification back on that they got the envelope in the card but no patch in there. So my son Jack has gotten quite an earful about that. Oh, yeah. He's never going to live that one down. I tell him, I don't remember.

I didn't want you to do a fast job. I wanted you to do a fast job. I wanted you to do a good job. Not a fast job, a good job. There's a difference. It's the old thing, you get what you pay for, right? That's a fair point. He's not allowed to say

that, though. So those people, if you did get that, the three of you, you have your patch on the way now, too. Well, good. I'd hate to ruin anyone's year by not getting their patch. Now what do you think? A little more, should we hit them with some subtle advertisements?

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No time like the present, right? That's what they say. Okay. Hopefully the audio for our guest comes in better than last week god I hope so couldn't be worse could it I mean it could but we wouldn't have an episode then so can you hear that hey yes got you hey big josh is that you what's going on hey josh this is uh tanner and tommy how's it going what's up guys how are you what's up going on we're we're good

we're excited to get you on we've been wanting to for a while and uh we were recording to the during the day here for once you said you're. You said the night owl stuff doesn't work for you. It doesn't work for me. It would be a mush brain podcast. Well, ours are kind of mush brain anyway, so it might not work. Oh, yeah. No, we are excited to get you on. I guess what do you tell people if they ask you what you do

or they ask about JL Hellstrung and what you got, what's your, you know, five-minute or less or a couple line things that you tell them usually? I would say that, honestly, I don't really tell them anything usually that other people do. Well. I can tell you, hold on i pulled my bio on linkedin i said best-selling author strength coach speaker and i help people grow stronger mentally and physically

i think that's perfect and we've kind of got questions about all all of that stuff and uh for anyone that doesn't know you do are starter runner of Jailhouse Strong is the main name of your company or what a lot of people would know you by, right? Right, yeah. So I got a partner on that one and then I have my joshstrength.com too. So I've got both of those.

Okay. And I'm sure you've answered this to other people before, but it's kind of a fun and interesting question. But why Jailhouse? Where did that come from, Jailhouse Strong? Okay. Are we actually recording now? other people before but i it's a kind of a fun and interesting question but what what why jailhouse you know where did that come from jailhouse strong okay are we actually recording now yeah yes we know we're already going yeah yeah all right awesome we don't waste any time around here got it that's great i thought so much when we yeah so a friend of mine uh dom and she and i we were talking about um the guy i actually started it with we were talking about, um, the gas actually started it with, we were

talking about sort of like, you know, one, one day we'd been talking about doing something together and it came back to a lot of the, I used to work at 16 years old. My fir one of my first jobs was basically managing a hardcore gym. I go there at nighttime and in a lot of the people that were the strongest there happened to be, you know, ex-Collins. So I learned a lot of information because I'm a 16-year-old kid, like an open book, just soaking this all in. And beyond that, so that was like a lot of the training philosophy was like, you know, obviously the barbell, like the kind of hardcore, you know, core barbell movements, you know, some like higher rep assistance exercises,

and bodyweight finishes is kind of how a lot of these guys trained. So I picked up a lot of good stuff that way. Then psychologically, it also meant to basically everybody's imprisoned by something. They have some form of self-imprisonment. So we want to help people become mentally and physically free of that. If it's not your sedentary lifestyle if there's psychological blocks whatever it is you have a way to empower people to free themselves from whatever form of self-imprisonment they're in right on so you were man you were like uh actively kind of managing a gym already by the time you were 16? I didn't set the policies or anything, but absolutely, yeah.

Right, right. I'd go there, and it was like Ed Cohn had come to this gym, Dr. Fred Hatfield, all sorts of people. So I was literally training the bouncers from the strip club at like 16 years old. I had a guy named Steve Hall that taught me how to kind of lift, and he didn't go to that gym so i just started i got all these people who are asking me a 16 year old because i was really strong for my age and i've been lifting seriously since i'm 12

and i started lifting at five i was thinking the ymca room but i was serious as i was 12 so i was stronger than a lot of these people and they let me like basically they're my guinea pig so i'd go in there and write them programs and all this stuff so i was managing the gym and you know training people before i knew it was a way you could actually earn a living yeah and i think like like to put it in perspective to people when you say you're really strong when you're 16 you are really strong like how like what like how much were you bench pressing at that point in time? I know at 17, I hit 400. And at 14, I hit 300. And what's interesting is 300 to 400 was the hardest.

One of those kind of like 500 to 600 was easier. For some reason, the 300 to 400 was pretty. Because I guess I was doing so much stuff and all that. But yeah, I hit 400. I hit 300 to 14. I hit 400 at 17. was pretty because i guess so i was doing so much stuff and all that but yeah i hit four i had 314 i have 400 at 17 i hit 519 622 just nice steady progression right yeah and you were competing in powerlifting at the time too right i mean you're at you were you i think if i look at open powerlifting you have several several meets that you're in yeah i started the first one at a bench press competition i was 15 years old was the um 1996 au north american uh bench press championships and

actually it was pretty interesting is back then gear lifting was more the rage so to speak so but they they had a raw division it may have been one of the first meets in an official actual raw division and um guy named richard schoenberger was there bench 611 raw i saw that and then uh he was the training partner and best friend of ct fletcher okay so i got to see him at 15 years old and talk to those guys so i I would just do, um, honestly, a lot of it was being a go getter. I would, um, just like get people's phone numbers and call them up and say,

Hey, can I come down? Usually they say yes. So I had a chance to learn from all these people and stuff. Where, where did you grow up at then? Like, where was that gym at?

And where that was in Santa Barbara, California. And I would live in Texas now and have for about 17, 18 years. But, um, I would go down to like LA orange County places like that. Yeah. So I draw that for like three or four years. Yeah. How hard you were hitting it at that young of an age? Well, at like 19, 20, 21, 18, I was driving 137 miles to, to, um, to to squat every Saturday I'd get up in the morning like 5 in the morning I had like an exact routine I know exactly where

I'd be on the road I stopped in this one place for breakfast on the way I would stop this one gas station I guess they don't have energy drinks in but to get like some coffee or something then I would be at the gym 8 45 we'd start at 9 so i was literally driving nearly 300 miles round trip every saturday to train so who are you training with then i was trained with paul paul leonard he's actually pretty active on instagram he is um he's like uh i guess he's in his 50s now um a guy named martin labar they were kind of like um the really strong guys in in southern california at the time and they were real helpful to me like took me under their wing i'd drive down and train with them and they you know treated me like

one of the gangs i saw my commitment yeah Something cool that you do with GL Health Strong, it's making me think of it now, you post a lot of information about older lifters, like lifters from the past and stuff like that. Do you feel like a historian on that sort of stuff, or is it just stuff you picked up because you kind of lived it and were training with a lot of them at that point in time, or are you just into that? I think it's a combination of all the above because

basically like i said i don't have my own agenda there's not like one single like josh bryant method if you look at like the books programs all that they're like different because they all work and um but there's not one to do it. So I've just had to like, you know, my always thing is about getting people results. That's all I care about. So a lot of that is going to come back to, because obviously while we're advancing in a way, like people are stronger than they've ever been.

No one can dispute that. But there's also a lot of people are weaker too. If you look at how many more people are in the sport and stuff, that obviously the top guys are stronger, but like, you know at how many more people are in the sport and stuff, obviously the top guys are stronger, but we're at the 50th percentile and things like that. So there is a lot of good information in the past. There was way less people doing it, and there was more of a social stigma to do it.

Now you can actually do it to be popular. Back then it was like fighting a stigma. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense too. Talking about the big benchers, yourself included, you've coached a lot of really big benchers now here over the last several years.

Just some of them that come to mind, of course, Julius Maddox, James Strickland, and I know there's a bunch of others that you've coached that have all benched. Jeremy Hornstrom, TD, all sorts of people. a bunch of others that you've coached that have all benched Jeremy Hornstreet, TD yeah so a bunch of them that have benched over 600 pounds if not over 700 pounds

yeah I lost track at 20 over 600 so what what what do you do for these guys or like what commonalities do you see from these guys? Obviously, they're hard workers, and a lot of them gifted even before they get to you.

Of course. But still, there's something to coaching them from that point. What do you notice similar between this group of extremely strong bench pressers? You mean like the similarities between them all yeah similarities between them all or and differences for that matter too like how do you how are you able to coach them like what's are there any general rules that you find that are similar amongst this like elite group of bench pressers and also like differences amongst them too well i think some of the main principles would be a lot of times they don't recover as fast because they're so strong.

So you have to keep that in mind of like, James Strickland is not going to bench press as often, heavy as somebody else not at that level. Same for Julius Maddox, even more extreme Jeremy Hornstraw all these people they're so explosive you think very because they're they're fast gainers so they're they're primarily opposed to fast twitch fibers so I'm not gonna recover as fast as somebody it's more slow twitch you know of fibers and things like that so you have to keep that in mind I would say that's one of the biggest similarity is most of them that's not always the case but most of them don't seem to

recover as fast most of them are very explosive people like they're very explosive upper bodies like td for example yeah i guarantee if you got them you know even now if you got them with some good boxing coach for a couple years Could be a deadly pro boxer assuming assuming he takes a punch wall all that stuff Which I assume he would because he's so explosive. These guys are very explosive upper bodies They don't usually and that's tied into not you know, not recover as fast. They're very explosive I think another key with all these guys is not getting hurt. So, you know, a lot of that comes with, like, training.

That's one thing where, like, the training frequency is real high is on the upper back. Like, most of these guys I have do some sort of upper back work every single time they train. Another thing is not majoring in the minor. So for example, you know, like I think a lot of mistake,

mistake I personally made is trying to get too crazy on various accessory exercises, you know, where, and you get so heavy on those things, the risk starts out way. You got to risk the benefit equation. It's in everything you do.

Whether you're playing the stock market, fighting MMA, or bench pressing, there's a risk and there's a benefit to everything you do. You obviously want to try to minimize the risk as much as possible with getting as much benefit as you can.

We need a certain point if you're doing... Say you're capable. I'm sure Julius Maddox, if we said, hey, you know what, we're going to really focus on your triceps, we're going to do like 180 pound dumbbell extensions on each hand. But would that help them bench press more? You know, because with the elite,

the cream of the crop, it's a different breed when you get to a certain level. Like always say 70% of your max is a good point to be in your overhead press and bench press is like sort of a guide to structural balance, for example. So if Julius Maddox goes 800 bench press, then like say he goes a 900, I mean is he doing overhead presses with 630 or something? You get to a certain point yeah it becomes absurd and these people are out scale it doesn't it doesn't apply to him what other might apply to someone right

doesn't make any sense to him so and then you got to also remember with all these people you're not the same lifter necessarily you're not the same person like you know as you evolve or that's something not the right word but as you build yourself up you know things change and for example like one of the lifts i like to build if you're someone's totally injury free in the back and shoulder is a wide grip pause bench press um so you go a couple inches wider than your normal grip and do a really long pause on the bottom to build bottom end power, like in a six to eight rep range. Okay. I wouldn't mess with that with somebody with longer arms and a small chest because you look at how deep they have to go down to touch their chest there that it's pretty rough on the shoulders. So let's say that same lifter

that wasn't able to do that gains a hundred pounds and now has a big old barrel chest. Well, at the bottom of his bench press now, his elbow may only be at 90 degrees, whereas 120 before adding all that mass. So at that point, we could incorporate it. But then all of a sudden, he's bench pressing, say, 600 instead of 400. So he may not recover as fast, even though like in most sports where you would you do it all the time you recover faster this is getting so much heavier that you know how much weight you're lifting you're going to recover slower your work capacity is higher but the intensity is so much higher that it doesn't you know like i think mike mincer talked about that before about basically

over the course of a someone's lifting career he was saying something along the lines of, over time you can triple your, I'm just making up the number, but double or triple your strength, but your capacity to work for volume only goes up like 30%. That's probably an exaggeration, but the point being you don't keep being able to do more and more and more. Right.

What do you think, it seems like on the bench press record, be able to do more and more and more. Right. What do you think, you know, like, it seems like on the bench press record, Kirill Sirchev, you know, he had it for a while before that. The big guy. Yeah, Scott

Mendelsohn had it for a while, James Henderson. Yeah. And, like, it got to these numbers these numbers that it seemed like even before Julius, it's like, oh, who's ever going to be able to break that? That's kind of part of the perception for a while. And then he comes in, like, he kind of obliterates it. So what I wonder, like, well, I just wonder, where do you think that that could go?

Like, do you think someone's going to come around out of the woodwork in, like, five years from now? Like, could someone bench that could go? Like, do you think someone's going to come around out of the woodwork in like five years from now? Like, could someone bench 900 pounds raw? Like, yeah, they could.

It's just the, the issue is going to be getting nothing hurt. Yeah. So that's where, that's the issue, not the strength to do it. It's going to be knocking hurt. That's why I like,

you know, see like, you know, more serious injuries. If you, you know, if you tear your, you know,

your quad, say you get it repaired, you can be back to squatting pretty quickly and stuff. Bench suppressing is smaller muscles. So if something, you know, you tear a peck or something, it's a much tougher road to recovery, you know, shoulder problems from doing all that weight and things like that versus like, you know, the hips, the knees and lower back. That's where the problem would be is not people's capabilities. it has to be someone like ironclad joints tendons ligaments things like that more than like you know anything else

that makes sense so do you think i mean do you see you know there has been some major bench progress over the last 10 years with the record do you think 10 years from now we will see some more major additions to what the world record is. I think people are capable, but it's tough to say what will happen. I think Julius will get over 800 this year and go beyond that. I don't know. I mean, the bench has made less progress, I would say, than the other lifts. But I mean, it's also like a thing of equipment and stuff you get like you know different deadlift bars things like that right where the bench press like what's come

along and it's obviously take the shirt out of it then what's come along it's helping you as much just so that part and then it's like i said it's like and then also like even the bs standards because you look at like some of the past world records you know may not have been paused properly but they still get the weight up we're like cutting a squat you know way high it's gonna be a difference we're like julius you know is not gonna be you know it's not gonna help them that much more to touch and go it right kind of thing you know so there's that part too so i don't know where it is i'd certainly say the bench is made i think people just get hurt because like you know the not mean what jim williams or casmeyer in early 80s bench you know 661 jim

williams you know was supposedly doing 700 you know i don't you know you 675 officially made the light elbow wraps on no idea how much those help i don't think a lot but that's we're looking a long time ago the first person to bench press 600 was you know when was it 1967 who like pat casey or something Then 30 years later, 97, James Henderson hit 700. Then now we're at officially, except no reps, okay? Now we're at, we're almost coming up on the third. I guess we're at 26 years. So in that natural progression of 100 pounds every 20, 30 years, we're at that time where Julius will do it.

And obviously, like anything else, it's going to slow down. I mean, because you look at the long jump. Someone first broke 29 feet in 1968 at the New Mexico City Olympics and no one's at 30 yet. I mean, obviously,

there's a point where things would slow down. I don't know where that's at. It's going to be, I'm telling you, it's going to come down to joints, tendons, ligaments, obviously the proper training,'m telling you, it's going to come down to joints, tendons, ligament, obviously the proper training, but that's what it's going to come down to. Yeah, it's interesting to watch.

What about the guy from, oh, the other, I don't know what country he's from and what his name is, but I haven't seen it as much lately, but for a while there, he was posting lifts in the gym where he was putting up a lot of weight, I don't know, 700 plus. And I think there was maybe some controversy there of how legitimate some of that was. I would say there's not really controversy.

I'd say everybody's accepted the fact it was fake. Right. That's probably a better, I mean, that's what I was curious if that was. Controversy means like there's people on both sides of the issue on a large amount. Yeah. That's a good, that's what I was curious if that controversy is like people on both sides of the issue on a large amount. Yeah, that's a good that's a good point. So you are definitely in the camp that that was probably very not legitimate going on.

Whatever was going on there? I would say so for sure. I mean, it's Iran. Right. So, I mean, I think I would assume their government would support anything they could do to make us look bad here. Right. Wasn't there talk he was going to come compete against julius at some point in time supposedly yeah and that obviously didn't happen right i mean yeah they're talking pretty big for one at that minute as i say

i don't i was i got some weird messages he told me i was his best friend and stuff and i never met the guy i don't know if i almost think we might have been getting a joke played on us too you know yeah he didn't ask you to coach him then no he put his coach in his video remember a little corner you missed a chance to have your face in the corner james strickland did it too for me that's what i was gonna say you gotta you gotta start requiring that julius and james and all those guys do that for you put my coach with a little arrow to picture your face

yeah I mean I don't know the reason I ever post about it is like I just don't want to like for the most part my theory is if you bring like attention to someone acting a fool then you're kind of like in a way supporting it just because they want attention I mean

the guy obviously was strong. I mean, look at him. I mean, he's definitely got strength. Um, but I don't, you know,

for example, you know, I don't really care. I'll go into for here for a minute. The other thing that was fishy about it is, okay. So Julius did the, um,

so Julius had missed 800 and that, that guy said at that point like he's like you know wanting to battle julius all the time he said i'm gonna i'm gonna like julius is gonna go off season at that point kind of like back everything down do more volume more capacity things of that nature that guy was saying you know like oh i need to get my weight down from you know whatever and my thing would be if this guy was a serious competitor is he thinking as soon as you like i mean if you like start to just you know what do they say um you know when the dog's belly up you go in there and you attack that's what i would do if i thought i want to get this person and i sense that weakness

i would attack them and want to you know what I mean at that point I'd go after that 800 and make them look like a fool not be like oh well he's not going to do it so I'm going to back it doesn't make sense it's illogical is there anyone out there that you haven't gotten the chance to coach

that you would have really loved to that maybe you thought you could have whether you just thought you would have loved to or maybe even thought that you could have done something taking them beyond where they're at um well i would say most of the people obviously i mean not to be arrogant but it definitely would take them farther um i don't know a lot of its personality too is like how well you mesh with somebody or don't mesh with somebody so just because someone could lift a lot if the personality is not right then it's not gonna work anyway so i don't know everybody out there but yeah that's fair yeah i

don't give like deep thought i'm always like i'm pretty good at focusing on what i'm focusing on so like if like say let's just say for example like you know somebody's had a jul, I'm not thinking like, oh, how can I get that person in my camp? I'm thinking of like, okay, how can I help Julius get past that person? Right, right. Okay. How many books have you written? I know it's a lot. It's got to be a lot.

I know it's over 20. I don't know the exact number. I mean, most of them on Amazon. The only ones that aren't are like... I've done some for ISSA, the personal training certification, that you have to be enrolled in the certification to get access to.

Other than that, they're on Amazon. I know it's over 20 because I counted a little while ago. It was 20 a bit ago. So how many books are you working on writing like right now um at the moment none right at the second okay i figured maybe you always had a couple going or something like that no i just put one out uh we just put one out a couple um like a week it was a week ago today actually on mental training on Powers of the Mind. So do you usually always print a physical copy or is it a lot of e-books?

Or do you always print a physical copy? So with Amazon, the deal we got with them is like you basically, they do both. But I feel like they're sort of, they say like all the numbers, trends, or what have you, suggest everything's going to eBooks. But I feel like it's sort of like a forced trend, if that makes sense. Like they want it to go that way. Right. So like, I don't know, you know, what the deal is.

But like, it used to be like, if you got a, say you can get like when Jailhouse Strong came out, you know, that was eight, nine years, nine years ago, came out. That was like nine years ago. Eight and a half years ago. So what would happen is you get that book up usually on Kindle and then it would be up in paperback within like a couple days. The last few have taken like about a month to be up on paperback without

Kindle like immediately. I get that the e-book is like that that's become more popular but if so if i'm really into something i always like having the book it's just like part of the oh especially like if you're studying it the way that you can flip between pages and make notes and yeah i totally get why you'd want a paper book yeah so you definitely they're all in both the newest one's not in paperback but it will be i'm just saying it takes a little longer um i think you got both because um i like i like real books better myself too however um it's pretty cool when you if you got like the so kindle like i don't have a kindle per se like the

actual thing it's just app so you if you have a smartphone you can have a kit like when people say i don't have a kindle i can't buy your book. They're always interested to know. So no, you actually can. You just need to get the app for free. But I like the part where you can go in there and highlight things and put notes in. Once you play around with it and go on the back end yourself, you can find your notes pretty easy. Yeah. That way.

What does it mean? Oh, go ahead, Tommy. You go ahead. I was going to say, so 20 books is a lot of content um and you know looking through that is there is there one that sticks out on your mind of like you got done with it and looking back you're like man that book like we nailed it like that thing's a masterpiece or are you just equally proud of all of them oh i think definitely equally proud of all of them um there's There's some that are better than others.

It just depends on what I like. The tactical strongman one I think is really good for that kind of thing because there's nothing else like it. So it filled a niche right then and there. I think obviously J jail how strong is that's gonna be like for you that niche of like you know like garage gyms and things like that so if you don't have anything obviously as a sec like a pretty extensive section on body weight um so that's helpful and then also like garage gyms and things of that nature where you know it's more minimal equipment and it filled that niche and people enjoy reading it since it's

You know got some interesting history in there and the written entertaining style the bench press the science book that was You know that kind of like I think opened a lot of people's eyes because I think it's part of the reason I've had more success with keep then, you know early on was like have had more success with people than you know early on was like back when I started powerlifting they were talking about how bench pressing was like only you know with your lats your triceps your chest didn't matter and I knew that wasn't true so I always had advocated you know bottom-end work chest direct

chest work as an accessory since I was a kid and I and I was able to put that in that you know a lot of that in that, you know, a lot of that stuff in that book. And I think it helped open other people's eyes too, because at that point it was more like my theory, but I found a lot of, it's called the science, because then I found, you know, actually scientific sources to back what I,

there'd actually been stuff that had been studied that would bring further validity to it. So then the Metroflex power building one was really good too because that was sort of like you know a lot of people are in the quote-unquote power building if they're not like serious about you know getting ready for a certain meter anything I think most people want to you know look like they lift weights and have some conditioning and go with it, but then also be strong too. Well, and you said powers of the mind is only about a week old. It's a week old. Okay. So for people, um, just hearing about that now, what could you give them for a quick synopsis of what they could find in that book? Um, that book's going to be, um, it's sort of like it's not just on mindset so it's

there's like the kind of like the in the nutshell of the mindset some strategies there but a lot of exercises and things so for example of like you know so someone says you need to watch a mental movie or visualize yourself well here's how to actually do it like like how to do that kind of stuff versus just like you know successful people you know have a visual picture of their goal it's like okay no sit down you know do this many breaths you know picture this kind of thing cool what what does it mean to actually be an amazon bestseller i know you've had some books that hit that but i like what what does what happens in order to be be an Amazon bestseller? I know you've had some books that hit that, but what happens in order to be considered an Amazon bestseller? I just assume they're not lying

because you see it next to the book. Is it like it sells a certain number of copies, do you think? No, it's more like in certain categories. For example, there's a men's health category, or then they'll have a weight training category. They'll have different categories. Well, right now, Powers of the Mind is rated as number one in new age meditation.

Yeah, see, I don't even know how they put it in there. No, but it was in men's health, which is more prestigious. I mean, I got to assume it's more prestigious. I don't know that category, but it was in men's health, which is more prestigious. I mean, I got to assume it's more prestigious. I don't know that category, but it was in men's health a couple of days ago. And that's going to be one of the better ones or that weight training would be for, for these kinds of books to be the better ones. I mean, obviously you could really, you know, Mickey Mouse it and find something like you just said. Right.

Right. Right. Or even further. I mean, I think they have like, you know, ninth century, you know, whatever, you know, European studies. That's just like powerlifting though. In open powerlifting, you just get all the filters enough,

like 35 to 38-year-old men that weigh 275 to 290 in this one very specific federation. Yeah, you're number one. Yeah, that's a whole different topic it's crazy like you know like that kind of stuff of like you know you can talk to people and you're like you know they're 37 year olds or something and they'll tell you they're a world champion it's like one thing if you're like bragging about it like you know i don't know like the the church weenie roast, and everybody's like, cool, you know?

But it's a whole other thing to brag about if people actually know what's going on. I'm like, come on, dude. Some guy told me, saying he was the strongest guy in America or something a few years. I'm like, dude, there's garbage men at LA Fitness that outlift you. For real, there are guys that come in here that can do reps on deadlift with 600. here i'm like dude there's like garbage men at la fitness that outlift you like for real like they're guys that come in here they can do reps on deadlift with 600 that don't even know these

contests go on like come on man like you gotta be embarrassed saying that isn't that weird though like this uh population of people are that are out there that really like don't even care about strength sports in particular but like the freaky strong abilities that some people have. Yeah, no, for sure. And, and I think, um, you know, and sometimes some of this is going to save them. They'll get so fixated on one lift because obviously if you want to be like, you know, you're ready for any, you know, anything you can encounter like you know only training your deadlift doesn't mean you know you can like you know for example like if you have to carry you know if you're like hunting or something I'm carrying a hog out of the woods or something that that's pretty hard to do getting your

truck back there you know for a distance of fewer yards or somebody deadlifting you know 900 pounds, they might have the strength to do it for six steps, but they're not going to be able to do it for 500 yards. You get kind of in a myopic sort of, I guess, kind of circle if you don't, if all you do is powerlifting, which is great when you're competing because you want to be the best at that,

but I think there's a subset of the population that are really strong that aren't pigeonholed there and just do what they want. And they've gotten pretty good results. Speaking of people that are kind of just crazy in that way, someone that pops out to me all the time that I'm like, I don't even understand this dude is Tom Havland. Exactly. That I'm like, but my question to you is what the hell is with that? Like he is, heavland. Exactly. But my question to you is,

what the hell is with that? He is insane. Yeah, and he's exactly, that's the extreme example of somebody like that. People say, why doesn't he compete here or there? What's the point?

The goal is to get him as physically ready as possible. I think he's just doing he the goal is to get him as physically ready as possible and for anything i think he's ready he is i mean like even before he started doing the conditioning and stuff when i was in australia with him we were like hiking up mountain ranges and stuff and he was having no problems how what size is he like what is his height and weight right now he's like 330 or so He's been as high as like 400. And, um,

I would say he is, um, six, eight or so. I mean, yeah, I mean, no one,

no one is near him on that kind of stuff. He's so far ahead. And it's like, you know, there's know there's just no one else close to that like at six you know six eight three eighty or whatever he weighs he look he looks lean to do like at least through his car hearts and stuff he looks like yeah he's super lean it's crazy i mean it's maybe one of the craziest i mean i know a lot of people do know about him but i think a lot of people don't and this is's maybe one of the craziest, I mean, I know a lot of people do know about them, but I think a lot of people don't.

And this is maybe like one of the strongest, like all around humans that maybe people don't, some people don't. It's like, he keeps as low as a profile as you can for being like six, eight, almost 400 and as strong as he is. Like it's hard to go under the radar and he kind of does that still a

little bit. The thing is though, like of like overall strength of functionality i don't think anybody's really close when you look at like of those kind of scenarios i think the people that are you can say okay well they can maybe like do more in this lift if you factor in strength endurance dude they don't have a chance right how do you think i know this isn't as apparently this isn't his goal but if he was like you know, you know what? I want to dip my toes into Strongman. How good do you think he

could be at it in a reasonable amount of time? I personally think he would dominate pretty quickly. You think he would win World's Strongest Man in a reasonable amount of time probably, right? I would think so. It seems like he would have like

if anyone could do it it's like he's the size he has the size and the strength i mean yeah his work capacity is so much higher because you just have to redirect the focus but all this base would pay off i mean he could train three or four times a day for you to. It is wild. It is. Well, a lot of people are sucking wind up for three or four, you know, heavy deadlifts in one sec.

It's a different ballgame with him. Right. So what does it mean to be gas station ready? Gas station ready means, you know, if you're at the gas station,

it's 3 a.m., you're pumping gas with some wild, degenerate who again comes up once your, you know, your car, your ride or your lady, are you ready for the situation? So basically in essence, what that means is you're ready for any situation you could encounter. I mean, that's the idea is like of general, you know, physical readiness.

Like it could be, it just, that's the terminology, but really ready for anything. of general physical readiness. That's the terminology, but really ready for anything. Basically, in a nutshell, besides the mentality of being ready for anything, physically it means you're able to move like somebody bigger, I mean smaller. You have the strength of somebody bigger and you have the conditioning of

somebody smaller. So you're basically like combining those elements. Right on. Josh, we've got this game we play with everyone that we have on. This little game we kind of close it out with. It's overrated, underrated, and we've got a special Josh Bryant Jailhouse Strong set of topics for you. So we'll shoot

them over to you and it's your job. You can elaborate on as much or as little as you want to, but you can't ride the line. You have to decide if each one is overrated or underrated. Okay. So overrated or underrated black singlets. Overrated or underrated? Okay. Okay, so overrated or underrated black singlets? Overrated. So what's the deal with black singlets? It's harder to tell your depth on squats. So is it because of the lighting and shadows and stuff?

Go on the Jeloff Strong Instagram right now. I got a whole post about it today. Okay. We'll check it out. But so your recommendation is do not wear a black singlet then for anyone. That's my recommendation. Yep. I thought I've seen, I've seen you say some things about that. The guy, I should guy, I actually did a seminar for, um, in, um, Canada is the one that really opened my eyes to it his name is Joel McCain it's um blacksmith Fitness and um he went through this whole thing he's dead on he showed a bunch

of pictures and stuff so I mean yeah I think that it's a big mistake and people get mad when I put that up I put that I put that post up about once a year probably just so the reminder and people get all bent out of shape I just bought a black singlet. I'm like, dude, I'm not like, I'm sorry you did. I'm just leech up. Yeah, exactly. So do you have any color recommendations or is it just stay away from black? Brighter is good.

Okay. Overrated or underrated rucking? Underrated. overrated or underrated rucking underrated I think you have a book out on rucking too right I do have a book out on rucking I love rucking is like you know the ultimate I'll just go over the one word answers

yeah I got a book on it so obviously I think it's underrated I do it all the time I love it it's paid off and you know it's it's one of those things that you can really build your capacity in it where like when i first started doing it could be hard to do something with my legs the next day like training wise now anytime so great way to build your work capacity we're all sick of one word answers i got a book on it wrecking gains gains. All right. Excellent. All right. We know you're the gas station ready guy. So,

and we know you're a Texas guy, right? So we don't have these here. So we really need your recommendation on it, but overrated or underrated Bucky's gas station or truck stop. Hmm. Let's, I know if to go one way or the other we'll go through the positives

their prices are actually pretty except for like their barbecue is pretty reasonable like their junk food prices are very reasonable their drink prices are really low like up until like a couple a year ago 79 cents up to like a 64 ounce drink out of the fountain

They had they used to have really good deals on deer corn they've kind of gradually increased their prices There's Always some sort of entertainment there. I would say The only minute I guess the top the tough part is i i'm um i'm a property in oklahoma and we we go up there you pass right by bucky's actually it's open one about 12 miles from my house here too and um every time i take we'd stop in there on the way up i have my kids with me we go in there and like we we end up being there for 45 minutes. Is it because there's that much to see? Yeah, and people talk to you.

It's a nice vibe in there, so people talk to you. I guess you could call it underrated, the exception being your tight schedule won't stop in. I feel like we're missing out on not having buckets up here. It sounds like a very Midwestern gas station they have I mean they've like randomly like oh I forgot batteries oh they got batteries here oh

yeah I need to get some whoppers they got that here it's like you know my tractor ran out of a battery I got that here like they like literally they're kind of like the Swiss Army knife of retail of anything outdoors because they may not of like the Swiss Army knife of retail, of anything outdoors, because they may not always have the best, but they're going to at least have something to get you by.

Okay. Okay. Good on Bucky's. All right, last one. We usually save the best for last, and we always like talking fine dining on our show, so overrated or underrated waffle house underrated so what do you like about waffle house everything um

i mean i could go i could go into so much detail on this i mean they're they're um i would say um i mean i'll tell you a little story about one so when I lived in Tennessee there were there was some sort of scandal there and I honestly don't recall what it was but they're all the ones I used to shut down and I started

going to the more rasty ones in the rastier parts of town because there would be like more like one of them they had some cook They went apeshit and the customer like picked this plate up and like broke it got mad at him And instead of firing me some like anger management. He's back in like a week and like freaking out again There was another one there. There's you know off Trinity Lane in Nashville Literally, there's old man that claimed he got divorced, had like a really high paying corporate job, got divorced, didn't want to give his wife half. So he quit

that and went to Waffle House to work. And he was literally running a drug business out of a 70 year old white guy in an all black neighborhood was running a drug business out of the, it was classic. We called him Wild billy looked like mr. peepers or something that fool was up there there was another one I want him there and this guy's like talking to me he's like can I get a ride home and I'm like I didn't really give right out we start talking to me and I'm like what do you do anyways like I'm always like clown by trade I'm like what you know and then oh shit I saw this night there's some I'm like what you know and then oh shit. I saw this guy the other night

There's some fooling there with clown paint and crying to himself drunk I'm like, I'm definitely you right home and I gave this guy turned out to be a total nutcase name was jingles a clown and he gave a ride home and he lives in the attic of some hardware store and I mean in so he was there the same awful house there'd be some other guy in there he'd come in screaming to everybody you know you go y'all going to hell and tell everybody they're going to hell I mean it was just there's been so many characters and entertainment I mean he said my friend's dad used to say um you hang around any bar long

enough there's three things you're gonna see um a fight a drug deal and prostitution say that's true you can say to waffle house but through all that there's like a very nice welcoming vibe there too it's it's it's in their food so good What's your go-to order at waffle house? Okay. So that's another way there. When I was in bodybuilding, cutting down, they were accommodating.

They make me like skinless chicken breasts. They would, they would, uh, do the hash browns. It says to fry them, they'd steam them and stuff. Um,

but like if I was going to go in there right now, tough to beat the All-Star. What's on the All-Star? Is that the Denny's Grand Slam? Same sort of thing? Yeah, but I mean, Denny's is awful for the waffle. I was looking.

We're way up north here. Our closest waffle house would be in Kansas City, Tanner. We have about a 10-hour road trip. Where are you guys at? North Dakota? Western Northeast South Dakota. So we're in the northeast corner of South Dakota. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure with all the oil roughnecks and things up there, you eventually get a Waffle House. I'm kind of surprised we don't have one up here yet. We don't even have an IHOP anymore though like there's not very many IHOPs in the state

oh really yeah I mean so Waffle House I guess you have to I was wanting to open one at some point like I don't actually want to work there just like I've seen so many opportunities I'm telling you like all these towns there's so many towns i'm telling you like all these

towns there's so many towns like from where i live that are like say an hour out of the city that are fairly populated now that like a waffle house would kill it but i guess you have to work there for like two years to do it and i'm i just can't bring myself to do that i got too much other stuff going on if i had nothing to do i'd love to mean, I'm sure it'd be like a very good book. I mean. That's what I was going to say. You could tie this into a book. It would all come together.

You see, like now, like, so now it's like actually getting, you know, Waffle House is like in the news more. But like, I mean, it's, it's, you got, you got to go to one and try to go to one. If you do like the neighborhood ones are generally better than like the ones right off the interstate. Because the ones right off the interstate, you're going to have more people, a little more transient, where like the ones in the neighborhoods

a little more are more like Cheers or something. Right. Like the same. Yeah, yeah. I can get that. I don't know if it's as catchy or not, but have you ever thought about instead of gas station ready, it's Waffle House ready? I have.

I've been using that lately. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. That's good. I mean, in reality, I think in my lifetime, last year I saw a fight at a gas station, and it was out in the middle of nowhere.

I had my son with me we were walking out and there's two guys started fighting the gas station like it was out in the middle of nowhere it was pretty sketch and um i've seen like probably three fights at waffle house so i mean you know you think you go to you go to a gas station like your whole life. I've seen one where – no, I've seen two at a gas station. I take that back. But Waffle House, I've seen three. Yeah, there's a lot of opportunity for the fight at Waffle House, I think. There's just too much time there.

Yeah, you're just parked down for an hour. Right, yeah. Right. One of the fights I saw is this guy who was mouthing off to the like I'm talking like this happened to instant this guy this guy sort of being rude to the waitress about his hash browns or something of that nature and this cowboy dude just like Walked over and said like just guy stood up and just met just clocked him and said show some respect I stood up and just clocked him and said, show some respect.

This is like in town, too, saying out in the middle of nowhere. This is like Little Road. Because Ronnie Coleman hangs out at IHOP. He hasn't learned the Waffle House gospel yet. But there's an IHOP off Little Road in Arlington, Texas. And then right up the road, there's a Waffle House. So this is like in the city. It's not like, you know, because you see more craziness out in the middle of nowhere, but this is like right in the city.

So definitely check out Waffle House. I'm feeling it's really underrated the more we've talked about it. Yeah, I want to check it out. Yeah, it's like the food, the entertainment, I mean, everything. It's kind of like Buc-ee's, only with waffles. Yeah, it's weak the food, the entertainment, everything. It's kind of like Buc-ee's, only with waffles. Yeah, it's weak in that regard, though. People that work there and stuff aren't as entertaining, for sure. Yeah, okay.

All right, well, Big Josh, we appreciate it. I think everyone on Instagram, everyone would find you at Jailhouse Strong. Their books, your books, I suppose your website, or just Amazon. Just type in Josh Bryant and i'll come up anywhere else that anyone should make sure to check you out uh your website what's the what's your site joshstrength.com okay joshstrength.com all right yeah so that's more detailed you know say like the instagram posts that are a few hundred you know words long that's gonna be a lot more longer more detail Can someone get you to be their coach if they want to?

Do you openly coach? Do you have people open spots? As long as they're not anti-Waffle House, we can discuss it. Perfect. As long as they're not big IHOP guys.

Yeah, I'm more of an anti- IHOPite. Awesome, I'm more of an anti-IHOP-ite. That's a thing. Awesome. Well, we appreciate it. Anti-Denites. Oh, no Denny's? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I actually think IHOPs.

I like Waffle House better. I would do like IHOP, but Denny's. Do you have Perkins at all? Oh, thankfully. If you like that crap, you'll like these places way better. Yeah, up north in ohio and stuff yeah i mean yeah i mean that now you'll like off waffle house way better if that place is okay to you i would say it's okay i don't know tommy what do you think perkins is okay at best probably but yeah i feel like i mean you're in a smaller

town though out there so you probably there's not many choices i get that no oh we can't beggars can't be choosers yeah it's getting it's getting slimmer by the year too they keep losing more you basically can't get breakfast actually perkins is gone in western northeast south dakota there is no more perkins even yeah in the last 10 years we lost perkins and ihop can't get breakfast anymore dang dude okay but with the price of eggs actually what i wonder what i what uh those places are charging for like breakfast right now well waffle house was um i don't know let's say raisin was they for a while it was 25 cents an egg extra so say you get like say your meal is like seven dollars or something and it comes with two eggs you can add on additional eggs for 25

cents and after the 30 i think it's probably 50 now but still you can add on additional eggs for $0.25 and they have to do $0.30. I think it's more like $0.50 now but still you can add on. $0.25 would be a steal. You got Tanner's mouth watered. Yeah, no, it ain't like that no more. I mean, that was like a while ago. But it was $0.35 like as of a couple years ago. Okay. That's not bad though still.

No, it's not. No, I mean you can get eight extra eggs for 280. Right, right. It's nothing. Yeah. Okay.

All right. Check out. All right, guys. Josh Bryant, G.L. Strong. We appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Bye. All right.

See ya. Those were served on a hot Waffle House house plate but they were cold beans did you give them the you gave them a double dose it was a double serving yeah he will have to pay 35 cents extra though 35 second 35 cents extra for every extra cool bean that's right boy i well i don't know i'm pretty i've have you ever been to a waffle house i have well no because they're not uh they're not around us they're i mean there's probably been a few times in my life i've even seen one on the road and i'm trying to think i was looking i got their map up here and they have 11 locations in phoenix that's probably about the only place i've ever seen them because i've just never really been down south at all

which is where they almost i maybe would have seen some in florida maybe but there's none on i know i've been by some before i can't recall where for sure but it looks like though on our way to columbus that's what i was just gonna ask yeah we do we pass by some yeah there's there's 18 in columbus and there's a few on the on the western side of indian. Like if you go a little, um, there are some in Indiana. Let's see where Indianapolis is at. Uh, yeah,

there are some on the, we probably actually, uh, I'm just looking though. Even the route we take to Columbus. I don't know if we would pass. There's like one or two. We maybe would pass by.

Okay. But that would be, it is funny. We would drive all that way. And Indianapolis would be the first time we would drive all that way and indianapolis would be the first time we would see a waffle house yeah we'd be like what's that 16 18 hours down the road and that's the first shot we have a cn1 because otherwise you have almost 20 hours in every direction to get to a waffle house yeah otherwise you have to go farther south down to

kansas city to get to them and we don't go that way so yeah yeah, we're kind of, we're kind of isolated out here, you know, I guess. Oh, good episode. Good. A good interview though. I think with a big Josh. Yeah. You know, his whole thing about,

uh, rucking here that got me thinking, you know, I go for a lot of walks with my dog backpack on. I should, I might actually go on the rogue website. I was going to say a weighted vest. I might go on the rogue website,

get me a weighted vest. I keep thinking about buying a weighted vest myself for this like when i go on the treadmill and stuff just just to make it less run it you know just to make it more fun or yeah just to do a little something because i mean yeah i can go for an hour walk but also that's an hour walk it'd be nice to make that time a little more efficient you know if you threw a 50 pound weighted vest on when you're doing it so that way way, when I fall in the ice, it really hurts then. Right. Great.

I broke my sternum. I can't get this plate off of my chest. Did you see the big power lifting? This there's very, very, very big controversial news in the power lifting. Oh, how could I miss it?

And I feel like we pretty much have to talk about this, right? Yep, it's been heard around the world. Everyone that's been listening to this episode so far has probably been thinking, how have they talked this long and not talked about that thing? Yeah, these guys are known for hot takes on everything, so let's give it to them. Yeah, so I guess the news,

I assume everyone else is even aware of this by now but um um the news is that there was a little bit of rift in the let's get stupid podcast uh tom callous rebranded the smart toms yeah the tom added again tom callous rebranded to be his uh company to be called be better and then tom fin, Huck Finn Barbell, came out with a Be Bad branding. So there's a little bit of a split there. I don't know if the podcast is going to continue. A lot of controversy going on right now. Would you say Tom is the yin to Tom's yang?

It sure sounds like it. I don't know if they're going to be able to overcome this rift, this split that they've got in there. That's, you know, all podcasters, eventually they go through it. They'll have to work their way through this one. Yeah, so that was the controversy. Yeah, we'll keep our eyes on that. We'll be pulling for them.

They talk about massonomics just about every week on their podcast. So we've got to see them keep going so we can hear what else they badmouth us on. I just want to hear what they're saying about us all the time. They can't stop. Those sons of bitches. Let's see. We have a lot of other things on the list. We do.

Did I tell you, Tanner, I went to Costco? I'm an official. Did you get a membership? I'm a card carrying Costco member now. How much does it cost to be a member? So I think it's the cheapest membership is 60 bucks a year. Why is there different levels? So the higher tier gives you a percent back on everything you buy.

So if you are a big spend, I think the math breaks down to like 300 bucks a month. If you, if you spend 300 bucks a month, then you start to make money. Okay. Cause it's like a 2%. I think it's a 2% rebate is what you get.

But yeah, that's what we were just dealing with this on something else in this stuff. I know. This is me off. I'm like, why? Like I want it simpler, less options, more simplicity.

Yep. 2%. It's hard math, isn't it? It's just like, why does there need to be multiple levels of that with different rewards back? I'm like, the customer is not... Well, the customers, some individual customers are

sure no doubt coming ahead because of that. Oh, yes. But I think it's obvious the customers as a whole are not benefiting from it because, well, I suppose if they've considered a marketing expense and stuff, maybe it's worth it to them. But I think overall, the company's winning, right? I don't know. Well, this is what's really interesting. So I saw a chart and I didn't double check their't double check their sources, but right. So Costco is known for their low prices and always,

yes. Did you work there in college too? But the chart that I saw was something along the lines of like Costco, the company operates at like a 2.6% profit. It's something along those lines. And it said 2% of their revenue comes from memberships. So with that logic, you would say that because of memberships, that's essentially why the company make money. Essentially why the company's able to stay profitable because they're selling you everything else so cheap. And the other thing about Costco, if you do want to be a fan of the company is that unlike some other mega corporations, like they pay all their employees very, very well, right. And they have a, they have a much better reputation. So you say, okay, if I pay you 60 bucks a year, I get, uh, maybe better treatment. Your employees are treated better. Everyone's happier to be here. If that's what it takes, then I guess so be it.

No, I'm not anti the Costco membership anyways, like I am some things. I think that those reasons all do make sense to me. I just want it to be less choices. It's not even just that. It's okay. There's a $60 level, $120 level. And then also on the $120 level, they can also offer you a credit card, which gives you another 2% kickback. So now you're getting like a 4% kickback every time you go there. But I don't like opening up credit cards more. Right. So that's a pass on that one.

But overall, pretty impressed. I'd been to one once in my life. It was more than 10 years ago. So I just didn't remember a ton about it. But there's a few things where you are like doing the math. It's like, wow, I'm saving money big time right here doing this. And then there's other things where you're like, I'm not saving, I'm not saving money on this, but yeah, I guess I have a huge stockpile of it. So yeah, I need to buy it once a month, once every two

months instead of once every few weeks in a smaller package. So overall, we had a Costco here. I bet our fan, my, you know, it wouldn't be me. I sure as hell wouldn't be going, but like we'd be custom. I bet we'd probably use it. I bet we'd buy a lot of most, maybe a majority of our stuff, groceries from there. Yeah, yeah, there's, I was pretty impressed.

And so I'll keep people posted if I find anything else interesting there. But, and then I didn't know this either. Did you buy any 30 rack of Kirkland's or? I did not actually. We were in a bit of a hurry so i couldn't run through everywhere i did not get any alcohol on this trip but i think that it's safe to say there will be some alcohol getting purchased on on future trips and i did not know that costco has gas did you know that yeah i think costco is one of the big like they are like one of the biggest sellers of gas yeah

i think i'm trying to remember what the number was, but I think they were $0.30 cheaper a gallon than the other gas stations. I think they move a volume of gas more significant than a lot of other places that you might think. Yeah, I totally believe it now that I see their whole setup. But you have to be a Costco member, I suppose, to buy gas there, too. Yes, yes, that is correct. So did you fill up a tank? Oh, yeah. Costco member, I suppose, to buy gas there. Yes. Yes. That is correct. Yep.

You got to. So did you fill up? Oh yeah. Well, we were just about to hit the road and my wife's like, oh, we got to go. I'm like, no, we're going to get the cheaper gas because we're going to need gas in an hour if we don't get it right now. So we're doing it now. Yeah.

Right. Right. And it is, it is still funny with gas because, okay, what you buy in a Tahoe, you put 20 gallons in it and you say, well, I know even at 30 cents, you're like a five bucks, whatever. Yeah. I saved $6. Like still it's, and that 30 cents, that's a, that's a huge difference. 30 cents is a huge difference. And maybe the number was 20 or 25. I thought it was, I thought it was 30, but still, even then you're like, well, I saved $6. Like that's at the end of the day, not going or break anything but you feel like you're getting a deal and i think that's half the battle isn't it that for sure but the gas thing

when it's like you drive across it's funny or a more extreme as you drive across town for the one that's three cents cheaper oh i've never did you actually no like i wouldn't do that either but people do people do right they'll go through I mean, probably losing the difference in burning a gallon, half gallon of gas to go get gas. That's five cents cheaper a gallon. You know, it's like it doesn't. Yeah. Assuming your time is even worth anything. And yeah, when you drive your truck six miles across town and back, yeah, you just use a half gallon of gas. And did you get one of the glizzies when you were there? I didn't, but I did. Oh, no, no. My wife did. I got the pizza.

She got a glizzy? She did. It's $1.50. I thought, is that what the price? Wasn't there? Did they stay at $1? Did they raise from $1 to $1.50? Or was $1.50 always the price?

It said it's been at $1.50 for 36 years. Okay. So when you consider inflation, damn, that hot dog used to be kind of expensive. You almost can't afford not to buy it now, right? So she had to get it because it's a hot dog and a soda for a dollar fifty I had really yeah not a bad deal at all that's a loss leader oh absolutely I had to do the pizza and I got two pieces thinking well they're not that big they actually were fairly big so two two pieces of pizza is quite a bit so yeah we did was it I I thought it was fine I mean I just definitely

pizza I like more but I've for sure had worse pizza. So you took it in as like an experience. Oh, yeah, we did the whole thing. You get done eating, and then as soon as you get done buying your stuff, the food court's right there waiting for you. And it's like, well, if we're walking by it, you might as well get it. Might as well get a glizzy or two. You can't come here and not do the whole thing.

So got that to look forward to every time I go back now. Did you see Big Lou Nutter pointed it out, the fireball? Yeah, that was, now it makes sense that I read what he said, but it was interesting. I never considered that before. Yeah, and like, is there like a lawsuit going on against him on that? Oh, I guess I didn't read that part. But so people, for people that don't know,

fireball enthusiast and massonomic supporter Lou Nutter had made a comment about how not all. What's it like two ounce bottles or the little shooters you typically find in a gas station, a fireball, which when I think of shooters, that's that is like the shooter is a little thing. A fireball. People always seem to have those. is a little thing of fireball. People always seem to have those. That's true. But he had made the comment that not all gas stations that carry those shooters of fireball are actually true, legit fireball

because some gas stations are not allowed to sell. And I suppose it probably applies to grocery stores too. Not all of them are allowed to sell liquor. And so the ones that are not allowed to sell liquor, they're not selling a product that is what, 22% alcohol. They're selling a slightly different product that's closer to 17%. And it has no whiskey. I think it has no whiskey in it. Like an ingredient in the bottle is not whiskey. Yeah. And that brings the liquor. Yeah. That brings the alcohol content down to like 17%. So it's about 5% less roughly.

And I didn't know, I didn't look into it if there's a lawsuit or what, but that is interesting. It is kind of surprising that they would even split the product. And there's slightly different labeling on that. Like instead of being called cinnamon whiskey, that one, you know, doesn't have whiskey on the bottle, but if you weren't looking out for it, you wouldn't, you know, it generally looks like the same label, but it doesn't say, you know, cinnamon flavored whiskey or whatever it does on it. You know, it's just a little bit different. Okay. So, yeah, look, this is as of today, this article from the New York Times is saying the maker of Fireball cinnamon whiskey has been sued for fraud for selling a beverage that at a glance looks like the spicy fireball

spirit. Um, but it actually doesn't contain the key ingredient, which is whiskey. So yeah, I guess that is, I guess if, if you have the exact product that people know and recognize, and then you take one word off it, that is a little deceptive when people are going to buy it, I guess. Yeah. you would think you would, well, if they were honest and truthful about it, they'd put a slightly different label on it so you know you're getting diet fireball, not the real deal. I suppose that might hurt sales.

Yeah, it might hurt sales a touch. It's just like, it's not a full-on blazing fire. It's just like a smoldering, like there used to be a fire here. Smoldering ball. Yeah. Fireball. So that's our public service announcement make sure uh when you're buying i demand my three dollars back yeah make sure you know what you're getting there you could be getting how much does one of

those cost like i'm just thinking probably a couple bucks right i'm sure it uh price per ounce is way higher than buying a handle right oh god yeah has to be this looks like according to here yeah one to two dollars i suppose it's uh here's one for three one to three dollars we'll say be on the lookout okay well they're not gonna trick me again yeah and next. And next, what are they going to tell us next? Goldschlager doesn't have real gold in it? But I love gold. Little teaser for next episode. Next episode, we'll talk about rockets at loggers.

That's a cliffhanger. I'm curious to hear what you have to say. What the hell could that be? Okay, without going too far into it, when was the last time you had a rocket at Lager's? Well, this would pretty much just be going into it because that's all it really is. All right, all right.

I'll just have to hold off until next week. Well, luckily, we're recording on a Thursday today, so instead of having to wait seven days, I only got to wait six. We'll only have to wait six, yeah. Yeah, that makes it a little easier, the anticipation. All right. I was also going to say, let everyone know,

make sure to check out our shop, our website, massanomics.com. You can buy things like our nose freshener, Dakota Breeze, scented ammonia. Not even that. We just had our new drop come out, and we haven't talked about that at all. We had our new drop come out. We better talk about that. You can also buy dad hats and drink spotters. And then, more importantly, our recent drop. What all do we have left of that hardly anything i think the flag

might be gone right i think we have like a couple uh weight is the number heavy is a feeling by the time you're hearing this that means they're gone they're probably gone we are reordering more of those we did reorder more of those so hopefully we get some more of those eventually also then we had our squats t that's getting dangerously low but at the same time we are experts in guessing sizes and so i don't are any sizes out it isn't it the best feeling out of small or something isn't it the best feeling though when you look at inventory solo and you're like nothing is out of stock are we mind readers what's going on here whenever it it's like that, I'm like, yep, we cracked the formula. And then the next one will sell like 30% of the inventory

and it's out of two sizes. And I'm like, what the, how can it be that different? Yeah, you'll be down to, we have eight sizes we carry and you're down to like 12 shirts and there's still nothing gone. Like, it's amazing. How did it work that way? Yeah. People are really liking the squats tee though. I think the color. I like the color. The it's amazing. How did it work that way? Yeah. Uh, people are really liking the

squats tea though. I think the color, I like the color. Yeah. Have you worn yours at all yet? Yes, I have. And the cream color, it's kind of, uh, I'm kind of torn on it because I want to say it pops, but cream doesn't really pop, but also in a sea of black t-shirts cream kind of does pop, you know, it's all relative, the popping, isn't it? It is. It harkens at the same time, though. It's a little harkening, a little popping. Yes, there's a little harkening.

I do really like the color of that shirt, though. Yeah, it's a good one. It fits in really good with that design, I think. We've said we've been trying to use that color forever, and we've had probably four different designs mocked up through the years on that shirt. And last minute, every time we say, I don't think this is the right one for it and without a doubt i can say the the shirt was the right one for that i think so for sure um so check it out buy all of that stuff everything from our website check it out at massonomics.com also please become a supporting member we'd love to

have you more uh the more the merrier right like the more we get in there the better it just makes it that much more fun and a lot of people have that same thought because the more it is growing it's a growing active community and uh really like to hit a few more we'd hit a certain milestone that i'm been eyeballing so we'd really like to get a few more so maybe you're the special milestone person that i see is it the same milestone I've had in my mind? 10,000 people. Yes. We're almost 10,000 supporting members. So close. So please sign up.

We said once we, once we get to 10,000, we're going to start our own city. So get us there. So we're almost there. Yeah. And we'll start hiring for jobs for this city shortly after that. So it'll be the mass,

shortly after mass novice job fair, big things coming. And then also make sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts if you're a listener of the podcast. We'd love to have the review. I'll say it right now. We're on the road to 500. I think as of today, we have 468 five-star reviews on Apple Podcasts.

So give us a little push here. If you've been listening for a while, go leave us a review. If you've already left us a review, try and borrow someone else's phone and hit us a review. And on that note, I'll hit you with a couple of reviews here. I'm even going to read a couple. This one's titled Ugg from PowerBelly69.

Only complaint is I don't get my druthers on where to leave a five star, how to leave a five star, and how to use my five star. Had to come all the way over here from spotify but thank you for making that sacrifice of coming from spotify they got on the road with us there yeah next one is from corn fed highlander i feel like i feel like we know that name yeah uh he goes some place flat a place where the beer logos look like

lifting apparel where non-discretionary income instinctively flock like the structured annuities of J.G. Wentworth. I'm talking about a little podcast called Massonomics. Very good, Eddie. Very nice. Next one is from... Well, maybe that was a fake Eddie, though. Maybe that wasn't the real Eddie.

That's true. It could be a whole Eddie. We don't have any way of knowing. Right. Next one is just titled 400. It must have been around 400, Mark. And all he said is, yeah, buddy. Sometimes that's all you got to say, just a yeah, buddy.

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