Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 365: Shane Hunt

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

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Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! side and everything massonomics welcome back cotter and welcome back everyone else to episode 365 of the massonomics podcast the lifting podcast about near finn recorded live from western northeast south dakota and eastern southeast south dakota tommy have you ever seen welcome back cotter has he seen it uh no but i know the song welcome back yeah yeah yeah um you know i kind of just kind of just said exactly what you said again but i put a tune to it yeah no that it made perfect sense to me good have you

ever seen the episode of the office where michael sc Scott goes into like references Welcome Back Carter, and he's like, Mr. Cotter, or something like that. Oh, yeah, I kind of remember that one, actually. I've got a hazy memory on that. Is that what he's referencing in that, though? I didn't know if that's what he was getting at or not. Maybe not.

Yeah, I didn't know for sure. I might just be way off on that. Because he just says so many dumb things that I didn't know if that's what he was actually getting at or something else. Yeah. This is week two of our special seven-year anniversary month of podcasting. So we're buckled in for another seven-year anniversary special. And some weather we've been having in honor of it, huh?

Holy crap. Actually, today was a new low in Western. Broke a 110-year-old record for lowest temp on March 29th. It's April. It should not be in the single digit. I mean, I live farther South, so mine was in double digits at least, but it's too damn cold to be this late in the year. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I think negative 12 this morning. Yeah. only have forecasted somewhere between 4 and 8 inches of snow depending on where you live.

Yeah, so this weekend will actually be April and we could get half to a foot of snow. And not just one of those fun April snow storms where it's warm and nice. It's going to be a bad one. And we still already have feet of snowpack around. It is is funny it's been like 10 degrees this week but somehow the snow

is still shrinking down i know yeah here it's like there's been a couple days it has actually been pretty nice here like in the 30s and 40s but even when it's like 20 you say it doesn't seem like 20s enough to melt snow but somehow it does does it. You know what people like to say? That sun is powerful. You ever heard someone say that before? That sun's got some power to it. My dad really likes to say that a lot. Oh, man.

Yeah, that sun, once it gets to the blacktop or the road, man, it just melts. And days are getting longer. Days are getting longer. They sure are. That is how it works, isn't it? They getting longer. Days are getting longer. They sure are. That is how it works, isn't it? They get longer. Usually, unless it's the last half of the year, then they usually get shorter. Yeah.

We got a lot of exciting stuff this week. We're going to talk about the Sheffield powerlifting meet that just went on. Going to update some things. Crewcast update. Had a special visitor at Massanomics Gym this week. Tommy was at another powerlifting meet over this last week, so we can talk about that. He's got a sack segment. We got a can.

We're going to do some over-under. We should hopefully possibly have a special guest if things work out as they should. Fingers crossed crossed there no guarantees we'll play that one as it goes a little later on in the podcast but first we we actually first things first we hit the weather second things second i want to paraphrase paraphrase a friend of ours i'm going to paraphrase paraphrase big grant owner of the strength co and uh if i'm remembering at the arnold we came up he put one in the old vice we had a vice vice lock handshake together and he said are you interested in some plates that are smooth but rugged uh that they're easy to grip made in america veteran made

uh what else was he saying about the granted this is paraphrasing yeah what else was he saying about that? Granted, this is paraphrasing. Yeah. What else was he saying? You know, he said affordable. Some plates where I've just drastically sliced the cost of shipping to be cheaper than most of the competitors. And I'm going to paraphrase you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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visit TexasPowerBars.com. Speaking of stuff like that, Tommy, weren't you just at a powerlifting meet this weekend? Yes, I attended my first powerlifting meet in a little while, did some did some watching. And that would be the South Dakota State powerlifting meet down at Liberty Barbell, Jonah Leo's gym, former podcast guest was on two times, times three times so many times like it's even hard to remember how yeah he's on a couple times for sure we've had a one in person with him we've had him on the phone a couple times I think too but yeah um it was at his gym got to go down

there and check it out and I'd never seen his gym before so that was fun to go see that and this is too far from my house so it was uh as far as powerlifting events go for us it was a very easy trip but uh big larry was lifting and big jory larry legend and jory from the georgia yep and also uh big caden and masonomics were both there as well being handlers and so got to catch up with those guys hadn'tn't seen them for a little bit. Oh, did you say Big Nate Moe too? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Big Nate Moe and Big Bryce.

Yeah, two more crew members. So some crew members competing as well. Yes, thank you for reminding me of that. So, yeah, I got there, and they did it. This is something we talked about. They did it in two sessions. I've never been to a meet that does it this way. They basically have a morning session and an afternoon session the morning session was just wrapping up a little

after one o'clock and then all the massonomics gym members crew members they were all in the afternoon session so got to um i stuck around for squats i brought my boy with so there was no way he was going to make it very long but we made it through squats i know how that goes yeah made it through squats and uh it was it was fun watching again did make me want to be out there competing you know when you're at a meet you're like oh i want to be doing this so bad and and it also it doesn't it also does erase those expectations because in one flight you have guys squatting 250 pounds and you have guys squatting 670 pounds and there's such a range you're like why do i even think i have to have numbers in my head to go do a meet like you just go and do it ain't that the truth

nobody nobody cares about the like nobody cares about the numbers you're doing but people do get joy out of seeing someone get something that it was hard or you know like just having any success yes people recognize when you're trying hard. Like, yeah. I mean, once you get over 500 pounds and if you're just blowing them up, people also tend to recognize that too. But people always recognize when you're really working for one and they clap and get excited for it. And there was a decent sized crowd there too. There was probably close to a hundred people watching. So they were, they were all in it and they definitely had some local favorites

you know some people that they got really excited for so that makes it fun too but um yeah i just it does make you miss does make you miss doing it that is that's for sure all right should we get into a debate here i'm seeing it go on here and um i think it's high time we tackled the important issues here. We're talking about sessions. Yes. So I've never done a meet with sessions. I have not either. And we have a few people in the Discord crew that have talked a few times that they think they like sessions better.

And then we had Big Big Daniel who conversely says, I do not like competing in sessions. I have never felt the need for it, but I have never done one with it, to be completely fair. Yeah, I haven't either. Larry brought up a really good point, though, because Larry, I know he always... He is the legend, but...

God, I'm on my cord here. It's really annoying. He is the legend, but even though he's the legend, he can still get a little nervous. He's still human like the rest of us. Yeah, he absolutely does. I asked, how do you like the session thing? And he goes, honestly, I just wish I was getting up in the morning and lifting. Now I have to be nervous all morning. I have to be nervous for six hours before I can go

lift. Like he goes, I wake up and I'm ready to go. I don't want to wait until the afternoon to start lifting. And I thought that was a very valid point. And I would be a hundred percent in that same boat as him. Like, yeah, I'd do a session. If it meant I could do a first thing in the morning, I would not like waiting, waking up. You already almost don't sleep the night before meet. And then to wake up and just sit there all day and stew about it while you got to wait for your turn. I would not like that part. But what about this part of it? Take our meet, for example, 60 lifters, lifters four flights 15 each if you did sessions it'd be two and two so squat for example say you're you're in uh say you're doing it and you're going to be in the second second session and you're in the flight two of the second session

so you're warming up for squat where while flight one is going then you go out squat with your flight as soon as you get done flight one is benching so that means as soon as you finish squatting you're in the warm-up room they were taking like 10 minute breaks between set between okay i think okay i think it's probably because of that because yeah it would go but then you have less action for people like you have more breaks in the and then you also have this big center break where you're giving out awards between the two sessions yep i agree those are all so it's overall a longer day it's a shorter time period of lifting for every lifter but it's a longer day for everyone that's there unless you're just you know i guess unless you're under the assumption that people are only

coming for their session spectator wise and otherwise, but for an event like ours, we're picturing it as more of a full day long event for kind of mostly everyone. So it works out better, I think, to have it be a full event. Yeah, I think you're totally right. And when I think back, the last two meets that we did, the last two meets that I did, the South Dakota meet in 2017 and 18, if that's when it was. They were a full day thing, but I never felt like it was taking too long or I was right. I always felt like it was the perfect timing. I appreciate the little bit of a break, actually, you know, like and then to like recalibrate towards the next thing.

Yeah. Like the last when I did my my last juggernaut like peak day or actually my testing day for juggernaut, I went to the gym. It was totally on my time, and I went almost as fast as I could. It took me three hours, and I felt like that was too fast. There's something to it that I don't mind the full day thing. I really don't. No, especially if it's ran well. I think the important note on there, if it's a well-ran meet and i think in the case of the lift hardly vz classic we're putting in things things in place that it will be a very well run

uh for flight meet so the layoff will not be except you know it won't be exceptionally long waits between but it does definitely it would make the whole day longer in sessions right i mean i think it does especially if you're taking artificial breaks. And there's the other thing of, there's some people in the morning session that they lift, get their medal or whatever, and they're just out, they're gone. So like half the people that competed,

and depending on who you are in your event, that might be a pro or a con, but for us, we don't want people leaving. We want people there all day. That's exactly right. We want it to be a party when deadlifts hit. Yeah. Or sooner.

Yeah. Full day long party really yeah uh did you have any other big takeaways from the meet um i mean with us having a meet coming up you know i was super paying attention to like little minor things that i wouldn't look at normally but that's things that would be really boring to anyone besides us so yeah i've already talked about most of those with you big mo i see is listening live uh could you hit us with your numbers so when we get to supporting or supporting members we could share that and if anyone happens to be able to reference big bryce's numbers we'd share those as well yes and i told big mo i saw him there's a few guys go before him and after squatting i said god you know you get someone out

you like you out there that, you know, you can just tell you've done this before your form looks great. You go out there and it seems like no big deal. And he's like, no, this is my first powerlifting meet ever. And I said, wow, you actually really surprised me because you just, you looked like a pro out there. Yeah. I suppose if some people have been lifting, you know, even if you haven't done it, some people live for a long time. Yeah. You know, some people just started lifting this year and are doing their first meet. Some people are you know seasoned lifters but have just never competed in that way too and it's it's pretty obvious once you get people out there even just in your

attempt it's not also it's not we're not really talking about the weights lifted either this goes back to the fact for most of it isn't really about the weights nobody really notices and my only comment about the weights would just be attempt selection. Like you see some people go way too hard on their first attempt, like way too much. And you also see some guys go way, probably too light, but I think you'd always want to pick way too light. You're, you're not there to use your first attempt. So who cares? It doesn't matter. Right? Right. Right. Yeah. If you're, if your first attempts are going to, if you're planning on your first attempts counting, you're doing it wrong. You're doing a lot wrong. So that's the South Dakota state powerlifting meetlifting meet both of both of us are seasoned veterans in that meet aren't we we are

first we probably did the first one almost 10 years ago probably eight or probably like that eight probably yeah or maybe it was also seven years ago everything was seven years ago it's all seven years ago okay uh speaking of uh cool things that went on this week what day of the it was monday you tommy you remember um big troy who we talk to every year at the arnold uh oh yeah yeah yes big troy harmer yep always yep usually has a bent shirt on yep um he's uh he is a ohio guy been following with massonomics for many years been a faithful customer very long time yeah he's a fun guy we always talk to him he's strong strong dude i think he's talked to us every year we've ever had a booth yeah for sure for sure. For sure he has. And he messaged me on Monday this week and goes,

somehow I didn't already know what he does for a living. We've talked about it or something before. But what Big Troy does is he is a driver, over-the-road truck driver for, he works for a company that delivers buns to Wendy's. Okay, I think you've told me this before. Yeah. Because this sounds familiar, actually.

Yeah, and that's what he does. And one of their routes is called the Fargo route, and it hits Aberdeen in that route. He texts me, and he goes, for the first time ever, I drew the Fargo route, so I'm coming to Aberdeen. He's like, I'll be there Monday, and I'll be there probably about Uh, and I'll be there

probably about noon on Monday or over, you know, something like that. I said, well, you better come stop to the gym if you're able. And he's like, yeah, it's me and another guy. Cause they're like, you know, have a sleeper and they're like rotate driving and stuff like that. So if we can, you know, I'd like to, you know, cause at first I asked him to come lift and he's like, well, I won't be able to do that, but I could maybe just stop by and check it out. We did forget to get the picture in front of like the mass dynamics gym sign. But, um, so he stopped, he put, they pulled, he pulled up the big rig right in front. They just parked it right on railroad Avenue there, right in front of the door and got out and hung out for about 15 minutes, you know,

checked out the gym, walked around a little bit and uh shot the shit with them and that's awesome and big he said just like homeless it was just like homeless i actually told troy you know the last time somebody drove a semi up here and parked like that and hung out at the gym it was homeless uh coincidentally he died shortly thereafter so be careful yeah just yeah keep a low profile for a little bit here yeah uh so that was pretty cool it was another uh another crew member you know um so what was his review of the gym positive negative he loved it of course yeah he's like man i'd love to have a gym like this at home to train at and his place he trains that i know from pictures and talking to him isn't that bad but

he's like yeah this would just be so awesome I told him anytime he gets the western northeast South Dakota route if he can work it out with his partner driver he can uh get a lift in anytime yep yep that's uh gotta take advantage of that at some point that'd be yes okay well that's awesome so that was the big Troy update that I had in there you uh talking about gym stuff just reminded me i had a a funny gym story happened to me this week uh it was it was an rp10 day for me on juggernaut this week it was yes for yep so i started the week with squats and um i had a very i had a minor back tweak a couple of weeks ago. Between the Arnold kind of being sick and a minor back tweak, it's been a bad March. Like I was starting to feel like I was almost unstoppable.

And then March was like. Can we rule out that it was back gout? You know, I can't actually confirm or deny that. So that is. Is gout contagious? It may be spreading through my back as we speak right now. But I thought i was kind of making i was coming back around and i still thought okay i can i can push this a little

bit so my rp 10 day it was 385 for a set up for a set of six on squat which is getting up there with some of the bigger yeah uh over five sets i've ever done yeah so I was getting pretty hyped for it did it I got done it felt great I rated like an rp8 like it felt oh yeah and I was probably even being conservative there it felt really really good so were you almost feeling like you could have done four plates for like a set of five I think I think I probably could have yeah like if I was in massonomics gym and I had people around to spot me and decent equipment, I probably would have maybe put four on there. Yeah. So you're getting up there then.

Yeah. It was feeling really good. And my best ever, not that we really ever trained for like sets of eight in the past, but my best ever with four Oh five was a set of eight. And I was about to die after that. And I, that almost seems like within reach now kind of.

Right. But I got, so I had three 85 on, I do it. i put the bar down get done start walking away and there's a guy like right there like right there to talk to me and i'm like oh god was he wondering about like what's going on here you had a lot of weight and did quite a few reps though yeah and he comes over and he goes hey man i just wanted to let you know that that bar was really bending i'd i'd be careful i don't think that bar is made for that i i know

you can handle it but i don't think that bar is made for that. I know you can handle it, but I don't think that bar is made for that. So how old was this guy? Was he 50 or old? Was he older than 50? I would guess in his early forties would be my guess. So I just thought that that was funny that he was very, very concerned about my wellbeing, especially with the bar. Well, not bad looking out for you. No, no. And then on my next set, I think he wanted to spot me, but I didn't really pay attention. So I kind of just did my own thing. It was probably a drop down, wasn't it?

It was a drop set, yeah. And then he was very curious. He's like, your max has got to be like in the sevens, isn't it? And I said, no. So he's not completely familiar with like a good one rep max formula. Yeah, in the sevens would be just insane and you were like yeah yeah that sounds about right yeah i mean yeah always give or take 700 yeah a good eight on a good day seven on a good yeah yeah and i don't even ask you what i used to bench either

so that was fine i've never had that i've never had anyone acknowledge uh lifting in a commercial gym but it was very funny that the first time it came up was out of my safety for could you could you feel the bar bending like uh moving at all no no how bad are the like is that like are there bars out there that can't stand up to 400 pounds i don't know like that seemed really weird to me like i've never once thought that that was uh yeah i i mean maybe if i was going over 500 i'd probably think like oh maybe this is getting a little whippy but right that that thought has not crossed my mind once at all in the process with that might speak to how rare at like a gym like that it is to see someone's spot well i'm also starting to realize that actually the pegs the pegs on the racks can only hold three plates on them they're so the plates

are just wide enough and the pegs are short enough that you can only hold three plates on them. They're so, the plates are just wide enough and the pegs are short enough that you can only fit three plates on a rack. So you have to go searching for anything after. Take with that what you will, what that means about lifting heavy. Yeah. So did the bar have a center knurling then for squats?

It did, but I got to make sure to find one because there's a fair number that don't have it. And that is like a no, and I mean, knurling then for squats uh it did but i gotta make sure to find one because there's a fair number that don't have it and that that is like a no and i mean knurling is being pretty generous with what you could call that but yeah yeah right uh you thirsty over there at all i'm very thirsty actually yeah i'm i'm ready to crack into a cold one here all right uh this is not a uh i mean actually this is a good segue into something else that we've got to talk about here. Your can's looking better than mine, I can tell you that.

What do you got? I've got the old Melon Pomelo. I've got the Pure LaCroix, nothing but the purest LaCroix over here. Ooh, that cracks real crisp. here. Ooh, that cracks real crisp. I'm a big peer fan. I mean, the basics can't mess that up, right? No. How's yours? Melon pomelo. Didn't we have this one? I gave you one of these a few weeks ago, didn't I? I think we rated this's quite high i think we're ready for this fours yeah it's really good um i'd give i don't know what i've given pure in the past but i'd give it a four it's delicious tastes like water nothing extra it is good it is refreshing when you're

thirsty uh yeah go ahead there that's what yeah most importantly i can't believe we waited this long to talk about it this week if you're listening live it's actually tomorrow is the big drop 24 hours yeah the drink spotter light if you're listening there's a recording that means it is for sale and available now unless we've sold out of them uh if we have sold out of them we do have more coming very quickly uh after that initial order and maybe we even just put those back into inventory anyways if we know that they're showing up soon so this should be available when you're listening to this the drink spotter light our promotional uh videos and things should start

to be pumping out we got the photos out there. The promotional video is a pretty, it's a new take on Drink Spotter promotion. Wouldn't this be odd if this stuck to that? Yeah, that would be a real, that'd be like a mind bender at that point. Like what is the purpose of this thing now? What's in the pure? Yeah, what's going on?

But yeah, so the Drink Spotter Lite should be out. Do we want to talk price details and all that? Have we discussed that last time at all? It's 47% cheaper than the classic Drink Spotter. So what, $32.99? Is that where it's at? Yes, plus $5 shipping, I think. Where the old one was $60 with $15 shipping

because it's significantly bigger and heavier. Yep. So we're talking all-in price is $75 versus $38. Yes. So basically half price. Yep, yep. People can go ahead and put pen to paper on that. Yeah, I see the emoji.

All the details of that. The pen to paper emoji is happening right now. But this is for sale. We did have a lot of fun shooting video and getting stuff ready for this. The promotional video, I think, is pretty fun that goes along with this. So make sure to check out YouTube, Instagram, everything with the DrinkSpotter Lite. Also, very surprising what a magnet can stick to in the gym yeah a lot you can put this damn near anywhere in the gym now or not in the gym like just in your garage

your house that is yes the other thing garage toolbox front door my house shop anywhere that has some metal stuff that thing sticks on it looks great it does and it's made from 50 52 durable aluminum uh what is this uh air aircraft grade i keep wanting to say airplane grade and that sounds it doesn't sound quite as it sounds really stupid to say something's an airplane grade so it's aircraft grade 50 52 laser cut aluminum this is made in amer America and it does have a 40 pound rare earth magnet on the back of it and you say what is 40 pound rare earth magnet?

It means it's a really strong ass magnet. Isn't that where the hobbits are from? Yes. Rare metal earth. Someone at Big Mo mentioned would it work on a wood squat rack uh no it would you would need you'd need to nail a metal plate to your wood spot rack and then it would work yeah or you could just like nail the drink spotter to it too like that or even like one of those uh

wood uh are those like steel plates that they use in construction that maybe sometimes like hold two by fours together like they have like spikes in them you just nail them in you can nail one of those into your wood rack and then pop it right on there yep stick right on yeah but uh yeah we got we had a lot of fun shooting the promotional stuff for it and i was genuinely surprised at the number of things that that does stick to yeah uh priced well priced to sell we're not in the business of collecting these things we're in the business of selling them we don't want them we got the ones we want now we're ready to sell the rest yeah and we also uh put up for sale the limited edition seven year strong podcast tea in celebration of our uh uh month-long celebration of the seven-year anniversary.

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Yeah, I have a little sack segment here tanner go on are you ready to see ready for me to empty it out here oh just unload the contents of the sack we go i got also i had to enter the club and get one of these oh handy dandy uh backbone backbone bench got yourselves a backbone huh yeah so have you tried the backbone yet uh no i'm gonna be trying it tomorrow it just came in today so uh get to put it to the test so we got i got a backbone uh for mass dynamics gym here a few weeks ago yeah and that was part of my inspiration was you got one and then i went to the gym when i was back and we were filming all that stuff and i laid on the ghost bench because that's what i always benched on and instantly i thought god i feel so strong just

laying on this thing and then i do i'm definitely leaving some uh some pounds on the table yeah the with the slick bench that i use so i had up my bench game. So you haven't got to try it officially yet though. No, I have not. Um, yeah, you'll have to, we'll have to stay,

stay tuned for your report then on how that goes to. Yeah. And if anyone is curious, actually, we don't have any affiliation with them or anything, but it's one strong herd.com. The bad is, is it about 40 bucks?

I think, yeah, I think it was on sale for 35 and like five dollars shipping so yeah 40 they have a bunch of colors but everything's always out of stock besides black i think they own black was the only one they had then i checked it again today and they had all the colors in stock uh must have been i mean black does probably look the coolest i kind of want to get a different color because i think it would be less. I think it'd be harder to leave a colored one on the bench, you know,

because you'd be like, Oh yeah, this big blue mat is laying on the bench. Like that's a good point. So that's why I wanted to get one, but they didn't have it and I didn't want to wait. So I thought about getting a red one, of course,

you know, red or black would be the color for mass dynamics gym. And is it air? Is it airplane grade? It is. I think it's an airplane grade mat. Good. We got other stuff to talk about.

The Crewcast podcast, update on that. This is not the Mastonomics podcast for anyone that's listening. This is actually a loosely loosely massonomics affiliated podcast where maybe massonomics could be a sponsor of the podcast but it is uh ran and run and everything done by the massonomics supporting members of the discord crew the uh massonomics faithful uh but i have noticed up to this, they have a special thread in the Discord crew where they're talking about ideas and planning out. And as of so far, there seems to be a lot of name ideas.

There was a lot of name ideas. I did see that. A lot of good name ideas, actually. I really liked, what did you like? Well, it was the same one you commented on, was Band of Druthers was very funny. That was commented on was Band of Druthers was very funny. That was really good. Band of Druthers is really funny.

And then there was some talk about what else exists out there. You know, then there actually like was a band called Band of Druthers. Oh, really? Yeah, I think Big Jen found that. But maybe because then some people, you know, like the podcast is a title, but then there's a subtitle. So maybe Band of Druthers could be a subtitle or something like that. Yeah.

You always, it is tough though. Whenever you have, whenever you got to add a qualifier to your name. Right. You know, as far as searching goes. It gets long. In the internet age. Yeah. When, when, uh, if people just think what your name is and type it in and they're like, oh, I can find is these six other businesses.

You're always putting yourself in a tough spot there right right um the other one that kind of struck me as that i let that i thought was interesting was was uh just uh unpaid and underrated that's pretty good yes that's pretty good i feel like it just uh and it's so you have to know what it's like it makes so much sense if you're in the massonomics universe yep yeah there was a lot of puns in there a lot of them were good some of them were less good but there were there was also for a brainstorming session there was a lot of very good ideas floating out there so we'll keep people updated if that uh podcast ever comes to life we'll we'll pitch it to make sure it gets to help get it off the ground as far as listeners go, you know,

and I'll be, I'll be tuning in. So that at least be one listener, the road to a thousand episodes starts with one podcast. Ain't that the truth? That's what the old proverb says. We, we know that all too well ourselves, don't we? Yes. We're living it. Yeah. Speaking of supporting our supporting members, which I've kind of alluded to several times over the course of the podcast here now, this is a segment we do each week where we formally speak of our supporting members and give back to them a little bit each week. And those that sign up to become supporting members,

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And then you get things like access to discount codes our online discord community community full like-minded individuals a bunch of silly geese in there and you get a chance on being on supporting our supporting members this week big murph she had a powerlifting meet. She had a seven for nine day, hit state records in the bench, the deadlift, and total along with a 22-pound deadlift PR on the day. So big day at the meet for Big Murph. And then, as we already talked about, at the South Dakota State powerlifting meet, we had Big Bryce competing there. And Big Bryce put up some big numbers. I guess that's why they call him big Bryce. Can you verify was Bryce big? It's not just a clever name. He is

actually big. Yeah. So he did a six 40 squat, three 80 bench and a six, six, six deadlift. I think is what we got there. So good stuff there from big Bryce.ce and then uh we had big nate big mo he had a 407 squat 275 bench and a 445 deadlift and i think he was going uh had to go head to head he had to stare larry's uh 15 year old blue inser singlet singlet in the face and go head to head with him didn't he i think so how was larry singlet looking blue as ever still looking pretty fresh after all these years are the legs still uh it's still the the trademark one inch inseam that you would expect i mean larry's not that tall of a guy. If me or you were to wear that thing, I'm curious if inns are singlets,

if the inseam scales with body height. Because for real, I mean, you're taller than me. If you wore that thing, that would just look like you're wearing a pair of briefs, basically. Be a negative inseam. It would. There's nothing to it. I feel like the inseam goes up.

It is surprising, though, talking singlet game. SBD, it's been a while since I've gone to more of a local meet. I think the last couple of meets, well, the last meet we went to would have been the showdown. And there, you know, everyone has sponsors and stuff, so they have their singlets that they wear. But SBD is by far the the biggest most popular singlet option and after that it's a7 and then you'll see a couple inzer and like maybe adidas you know some

other things but it used to be when we first got into meets us everyone had an inzer singlet on it felt like everyone had those things right they had the market cornered at that point in time didn't they not anymore the times they are a changing just like bob dylan said i think he was talking about ends or singlets when he wrote that song and larry uh so thank you to our supporting members uh should we do some uh ads should should i hit everyone with an ad here uh yeah let's do it okay i like uh we just had someone join uh the live stream right now and they're gonna be in here for like a whole one minute we could i could draw on this ad really long too too. Well, I don't want to keep our guests waiting any longer. Well, he didn't message back. Oh, God. So we might be in for some.

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If I'm going to speak my truth on Juggernaut AI I would tell you there is a lot of ways that you could get stronger there's a lot my honest opinion is there is a lot of different programs you could use to get stronger I like the biggest thing oh you know if I could add to that I recently listened to the Mike Isra tell table talk with Dave Tate and I think he even says you know as long as you have some progressive overload and a certain amount of specificity to it, you're basically going to get stronger. It's just how effective is that in making you stronger, but you really only need about two components to actually make you get stronger. Right. Especially for someone that's maybe more beginner and like, not maybe ever your first time lifting, but your first time, like,

yeah, I'm going to really train to get stronger on my squat bench and deadlift and your big lifts and really progress those. I honestly believe there's a lot of programs you could use that are going to get you stronger. So it's not like Juggernaut AI is the only one that's going to do that, but if you're looking for something that is very directed, that you're not going to be just kind of leaving it up leaving it up to guesswork or jumping from a template to template. You could get in on this.

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much into MRV and all of that. Or if you're into that sort of thing, it provides you a ton of data, a lot of history on these lifts and what you can check it out there. So my point is there is a lot of ways to get strong. I'm not, we don't, We don't pitch Juggernaut AI saying it's the only thing out there that's going to work, but this is a pretty sweet option. And I can say that from experience from all of us using it in the past and the number of people I have seen make progress with it over time, a lot of progress actually. And that's my story, and i'm sticking to it you nailed it

discount code massonomics go to juggernautai.app and sign up have to use the website to get the discount code can't sign up you do have to do that yes yes oh well let me check here okay 10 more minutes 10 so we can let the discord people stay on. Do you, were you going to read an ad or we're going to wait for that? I will wait. Okay. Uh, you know what?

I just want to talk about a juggernaut one more time though. Cause you know what? I'm actually really starting to appreciate it. What do you think of my, uh, synopsis? Do you agree with what I said? Yes.

Yes. I a hundred percent agree. A hundred percent agree. And I've started reading the scientific principles of strength training. Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm not done with it yet,

but still it's like, it's like making all these thoughts that you have in your brain after going to the gym for a long time. It's like, are you reading them and pay, you know, you're reading it for the first time and you go, okay, that makes a lot of sense. Like I've kind of always had this thought, like after you spend enough time, you start to see what works and doesn't. And then this is just like putting those thoughts into words and you're like, ah, it's all kind of clicking now. But one of the things I am really appreciating about juggernaut is that it does take more of a long-term approach to training. You know, when we first were really getting into it, I mean, life was mostly about eight and 12 week programs then,

you know? And, uh, it's so crazy thinking about that because you can't just keep doing that over and over like you do start to just hit a wall where juggernaut really does that the awesome thing that phasic structure of the hypertrophy phase a strength phase and a peaking phase and then also and then it spreads them out over a long period of time like it wants you to do those over the course of almost like 20 some weeks you know you're looking at like a half a year and then when you're done with that you can also add in a bridge block that changes things up again and change it so uh i do really like that it takes this phasic approach to training because i've noticed that it keeps things fresher for me less stale and uh just keeps the gym fun like it always feels like you're getting a pr of some kind because you're changing your rep and uh rep and weight goals as the months go by and some and decent number of a decent bit

of exercise selection changing too you know you are hitting some different different lifts too um yeah i agree with all of that there was a point i was going to add to it, but it is now escaping me. And this isn't really an ad. This is us kind of talking about training. No, this is just like just, yeah, our. Oh, that's my point is the time on it. It's also the longer you train, the longer you're lifting like that, the shorter like eight weeks.

Oh, my God. The short, like I'm like that. Even eight weeks of training goes by. I just closed my eyes and it was eight weeks. my god the short like i'm like even eight weeks of training goes by i just closed my eyes and it was eight weeks i like a hundred percent agree and that just speaks to getting older in general like time does start to go fast but i already think like god this thing's supposed to have me peak like in late july early august like that's just around the corner like i won't i can't be ready by then and it's you know it's like five months four months away

and it feels like there's no way i'm gonna be in a peaking state by that time yeah that is that is funny and i don't know is do you think that's as much of an age thing as anything that you feel that way or is it like the longer you've trained do you start to feel more like that or i think both i think it's both it's just the more time you have just you, you start to realize how time, how short time is in general, where it used to feel like, oh, an eight week cycle and then another eight weeks. Like, oh, that that's, I mean, that's a couple of months from now, who knows what could change between now and then you're like, well, now I actually know what changed, not changes in two months. And it's not a whole lot, but if I can get two good months, and then if I can get two more good months and then maybe two more good months, well,

then something can really change. Yeah. Your, your your your goals start to go from like just i need i need gains i need instant gratification to like hey let's take a long-term approach here and it usually does work out usually when you play the long game it usually works better yeah the uh the it's like they always say the eight rep rpe 10 training days are long, but the mesocycles are fast. It's like they always say that very common saying that you hear so often. Yeah. I'd love to make that as a poster or a banner and we'd sell two of them and it'd be hilarious. I have to repeat it again to make sure I

don't forget it. Eight rep, ten RPE training days are long but the mesocycles go fast. Chad would probably appreciate a framed picture of that to hang in his gym or something. Wouldn't be the first framed picture

we gave him to hang. Have we ever seen, did he ever share like hey i hung this up somewhere that's a good question i liked a picture that if we haven't seen it it's because he actually put it in his bedroom and he thinks it's too private to share that i bet it's somewhere right i god i hope it's somewhere i mean technically unless it's absolutely destroyed it somewhere so much that he destroyed that he's like i must burn this i can't believe those assholes showed this thing to me in person i'm never flying to western northeast south dakota again uh gosh i don't know if we have enough time or i wanted to recap the sheffield a little bit too right yeah i don't think we have enough time for that because i did watch a decent amount of that too okay so we can talk about that later i could tell you about uh let me give you a roundhead

dumbbell update ah yes been talking about that there's still there's still more developments here huh more developments this is a daily development you are basically just a roundhead uh roundhead junkie at this point that's three weeks in a sick sick addiction that i have uh so i don't know i i don't know where what i covered last time so i'll just recap it big eddie has picked up uh the 20s through 60s in every five pound increment he confirmed the set is very nice he has secured the bag and he has not been uh he said he wasn't hasn't been slamming them down he's only thrown them off the roof of his house a couple times and he's like yep i figured you would want me to test them to make sure that they're durable he said i saw coop do this once so i always wanted to do it he's like i figured no better chance than when it's somebody else's stuff uh then uh ones twos and threes have all shipped to me the ones the ones and twos are comically

tiny where that i i don't have a particularly large hand and i can't even fit my like your my hand doesn't fit in the grip but barely really it's it's that narrow huh yeah yeah it's like fist width yes it's fist width it's a fist width uh dumbbell and then let's see i've got fives coming in the mail i've got 15s that uh show i found on facebook marketplace where my mother-in-law is at in florida so she picked those up for me i think yesterday but she could ship those back easily yeah yeah yes yes okay so that worked pretty good too i had her pick those up those were a steal on those 15s um why would you get the 15s for oh what were they i think it was uh 30 bucks so that was a dollar a pound which is a a good deal and it's 15 relatively rare or not no no 15 is not a special size it's probably a very common one under 10 that are more rare yes and 12s oh and 12s that's

right yeah yeah yeah and i was slightly confused last time i was talking about a fictitious 11s we got on well i think i mentioned that because that because I think I got stuck stuck on that. But the 12s are rare. The nines and the sixes are both rare, too. OK, but right now I have the ones, twos, threes, fives are coming. Fifteens are coming. I still got to secure tens, which that's easy. Tens are common.

So that'll that'll be any day that I'll get the right set of. That seems like that would be one of the most common numbers. Yeah. Ten and twenty. Yeah, for sure. Then I've got sevens and 8s. One of those I bought off Facebook Marketplace. One of them off of eBay. I found, I think, 7s on eBay. And are you sticking with the pre-USA stamp? Are you with that on all of them? I'm not being exclusive on that. I prefer the pre-USA stamp when I can get them,

but some of these I'm going to get what I can get now, and maybe later I will trade in. Yeah, I would trade it back into the pre-USA. But on some of these harder ones, I'm going to get what I can get. Because there is no, like, aesthetic difference outside of the stamp on the back. But I'm going to take what I can take at that. Okay, so what are you missing right now then?

So I need fours, four, six, nine, 12. Four, six, nine, 12, okay. And then I got 65s. Someone thinks they can ship them. You know, Eddie has me up to 60s. Someone thinks they can ship them. You know, Eddie has me up to 60s. Someone thinks they can ship me 65s. They'll fit in the priority box. So I got 65s.

Big Keith is making a point about that. You know, this is true that USA stamp, you know, the newer ones are more accurate than the old ones. But I don't care. I couldn't care less about that. We already have accurate ones. Right. These are for the collectability. So I want the older ones are more accurate than the old ones, but I don't care. I couldn't care less about that. We already have accurate ones. Right.

These are for the collectability. So I want the older ones if possible, but I'm not picky. Like I said, not picky about that right now, but don't care about the accuracy because it's, they're mostly a dust collector is what they're going to be. But, um,

so I got 65. So then I have seventies. So then the, the one that's going to be, take me a while. Seventies through a hundreds can't be shipped cheaply or easily. Um, and they're heavy and they're expensive. And you know, if I, and, and it's hard to find, you don't find, you rarely find, Hey, here I have all seventies through one hundreds available for sale.

Right. For you. Are those in five or ten pound increments five they are okay 70s 75s 80s 85s 90s 95s and 100s whoo yeah uh yeah best case there would be if you find those for eddie to get before he before he makes the trip that way you can have him yeah but it might get to be an issue where it could just be a heavy ass load for him too, because right now,

like the twenties through sixties, right. That's, you know, maybe there's, I don't know what the math is, if it's like 600 pounds there or something like that, but you start going,

you know, hundreds, 95s, nineties right there. That, you know, that alone is like, uh,

what's, you know, that's 600 pounds almost just in those three sets. Thanks for taking those. Sorry. You only got four miles of the gallon right right my best bet which this is a uh not an easily thing done if i could find someone that has a lot of them you know if i could find like five sets something that has and do like freight shipping yeah. But some of that will be more of a long, long, long game thing. But I've got a pretty sweet start. You know, have most of the gaps filled, and then it's just the big daddies.

Yeah. This went from hardly being a thing, what, three weeks ago, to now having a pretty substantial amount of them locked up and spoken for. Yes. pretty substantial yeah amount of them uh locked up and spoken for yes and um i did uh i've made a couple posts in the some of the community facebook groups and uh without fail there's been some massonomics uh privy people and everyone that like uh you know i posted one today in search of a couple things uh first comment i get on there is i didn't recognize the names first comment i get is cool beans that's awesome yeah uh yeah you'll have to once you get them set up just put that video on in slow motion of everyone slamming them on the ground yeah yeah

well should we uh try to get our guest on the horn here yeah should i keep the discord in just in case or should i boot them right now we could uh you could i guess we could keep them in for the for them to be able to know this uh you know whether it was really answered or not and then once we get going you could boot them i suppose or What do you think? That's fair. Yeah. That works for me. Okay. Alright. Because they might want to hear if we get shut down on this one and it doesn't go through.

Alright. Let's try and get Big Shane on the horn. I guess I can't just say that. I actually have to do it then too, right? You do. Yes. You do have the power. He-Man, I have the power. I don't hear it ringing, so I just said it's dead silent. Yeah.

It's ringing. It's ringing. Please leave your mess I would have been disappointed if it wouldn't have went to voicemail to be fair I kind of expected him to not answer the first time I bet we will catch him catch him here shortly on this week it would almost be funnier though if we are not able to get him on the phone this week wouldn't it be yeah uh okay

i was uh i was talking i might actually be making a trip down down your way this week i don't know if i will for sure yet or not given the weather conditions and everything else going on but yeah i could make a little trip down to eastern southeast south dakota yeah of course though it's nearly april so you know what they always say if it's almost april make sure you're watching the weather because you might not make it back. Well, did I tell you when I was there, I had to drive back, and the first, what, 80-mile stretch, I had to drive about 40 miles an hour. It was so shitty out. Yeah.

It's like, yeah, of course, it's late March. Of course you can't expect to, like, get anywhere without going through a snowstorm. Yeah, I know. That is the thing, isn't it? Yeah. So April, yeah, it'll have shitty weather in April. Yeah, so that means we get, I don't know, if we're lucky, like four months of decent weather this year maybe. Yeah, I've got something else we could talk about here

while we're waiting. I've had this topic in there for a while. You might have seen it. It's just labeled Powerade. Yes, I do want to know what this is. Not if anyone's hoping for something real in-depth here, that's not, this isn't the segment for that. Yeah, but just a general comment.

So Powerade's been around for a long time now. I kind of remember when it started. I feel like I remember when it really started to get more popular into Battle Gatorade. You know, when I was a kid, I just remember Powerade machines popping up more often and really like to Battle Gatorade. And who owns which?

Coke owns power aid. Okay. And I'm almost wondering like, cause I agree with you too. I remember it as when we're younger, seeming like it was getting really popular. And I wonder if that was like when Coke purchased it or how long they had it. Right.

My comment though, there's probably people that will disagree with this, but, um, I think what I've always kind of thought is who the hell's choosing to buy Powerade over Gatorade? I know, I know. Okay, so you agree. I totally agree, and I don't know if that's because they position themselves cheaper, so you think it's a cheaper product, because Gatorade is always more expensive I don't know I don't I didn't even know about the price then if it was but yeah I think

like Gatorade is a more premium product than Powerade oh I always thought so but okay what if I said name all the Powerade flavors I'd say uh red blue purple and then there's like sugar free versions of those Arctic Shatter still exists i don't even know because i think that their flavors aren't as good but like i don't know i can only think of like four or five powerade flavors then the sugar-free version which i'm still just going to say is four or five flavors gatorade has way more flavors too yeah and also like powerade just feels like the it's like um oh it just feels like the generic knockoff. Yeah, it's Mountain Dew versus Mellow Yellow, right?

There's probably a few people out there like Mellow Yellow better, but they're getting their ass kicked, right? You know, they're some unhinged lunatic. So you would agree that Powerade feels like the cheaper... Yeah, so much. I totally, totally agree. That was my only thought i was just thinking about i was think i was at a gas station that's for that's the only place i'm buying either of those things is maybe at a gas station i don't you know i don't typically stock uh

these beverages but um i just thought who's buying this why is there how have these two coexisted so strongly for so long? Yeah, I think it's because Powerade is so much cheaper. I think that's why Coca-Cola owns it. That makes sense though. But looking here, doing a little dig in according to Wikipedia, Powerade was created by Coca-Cola in 1987 and...

87? Yes, 87, which shocked me. Wow. But in 2000, which would have been, that's what, okay. That's, I think where,

what made them popular was in 2000, they were the official sports drink of the Olympics, which I could see how that could give them a big boost as far as recognition goes. Yeah. And also drinks like that were probably getting more popular too. Yeah. But back then,

isn't it funny? Like your choices for drinks back then were probably getting more popular too. Yeah. But back then, isn't it funny? Like your choices for drinks back then were like soda or a Powerade or a Gatorade maybe. Yeah, or Snapple. Like nothing, there was no like, I don't know, was there to-go canned coffee drinks? Or there definitely wasn't energy drinks. Like there's just so many beverage options now that didn't exist. Yes, yes. That would have been another one too.

There was Allsport. Yeah, there was Allsport. I do remember that. That doesn't exist now, does it? I don't know. I mean, if it does, it doesn't exist competitively. I think we've talked about this in the podcast before. Yeah, we for sure have.

Allsport felt like so much. I mean, I know they all have sugar in them, but Allsport felt like a higher sugar beverage to me you know like uh even a lower quality like maybe even more knockoff than powerade even like the knockoff power like even like worse for you all sport felt worse for you to me something about it yeah they have a lot of mixes you go on their website they have mixes i also in high school a lot of people a lot of people in high school had it looked like a you know those uh big gatorade jugs that you have at sporting events that you dump on the coaches

a lot of people had the gatorade mixes that was in like the, it looked like that, only it was, you know, a little, I don't know, eight ounce like Gatorade mixes. People had that all the time and I don't really see that now, I guess. I remember that too. And yep, I totally, I haven't seen one of those in forever, but I do remember people having that. What's interesting is the Allsport website. If you go to their products, it's just all, all sport powder mix. But if you go all the way down to the bottom of the website, they have powerade freezy pops. And I don't know why those are on that website.

All sport or powerade on the all sport website. There's powerade freezer pops. Powerade. Yes. I don't know why they're on there. It makes no sense. The onlyade product on the entire website. So does Coca-Cola own Allsport? That's what I'm trying to look at here.

It says Allsport is owned and manufactured by the Gel Cert Company. Okay. Hmm. Yeah. It doesn't really say though. Huh. So I have no idea why that is the way it is but

um what about mystery here what do you think oh yeah uh big colton in the discord crew is sharing yes that stuff like that looks like a pretty modern version of what I was picturing but uh I remember a lot of kids having that and now i just can't recall having seen that ever within the last like 15 years you don't see people busting those out at the out at the office at

lunchtime no mix it up some yeah i guess maybe it's just setting i'm not in the high school locker room where people would uh like oh this is way cheaper than buying a Gatorade. I'm like, yeah, you also got to mix it in water and it kind of tastes granular when you get done. Dry scooping this doesn't really do much for you. What about between Aquafina and Dasani?

Which one is better? No other options as of now, just Aquafina or Dasani. If I had to choose between those those you're on a deserted island and you can only have one water i would probably pick aquafina probably if i had to pick there but i also hate buying bottled water i actually bottled water is the one where i almost always buy if i'm gonna buy bottled water the cheapest biggest bottle you can get without doing a gallon i don't want to carry a gallon it's too annoying but i'll just get the cheap every gas station has like the local brand

that's you know like almost a liter bottle and it's like a dollar and then you have the aquafina or dasani that are and then you have the high-end waters too yeah your fuji water yeah more expensive one of the options there. They're probably like the, or like the most expensive one that you can find in gas stations. Actually. Oh, big David mentioned a Voss too. Isn't that kind of,

that's kind of seems to be marked as, I don't know. Yeah. I think they go a little more. Yes. I think they go a little more premium too. Yep. I have,

I don't think, or what's that one. That's it's re it's tall. And then the cat that it has no neck? The cap is right at the very top of it. It's a tall... Maybe that's Voss. What does Voss look like?

That is Voss, I think. The cap is flush with it almost. It's like one big cylinder. Right. Yeah, that is Voss. I have the picture here. Or Smart. I'm big...

Smartwater, that's what I'm thinking of too. Smart is really tall, yeah. That is really tall. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, Voss, the lid is the same width as the bottle. Oh. It'd be like if you just took this. That just screams expensive.

Doesn't it? Yeah. I've never bought. I've never bought. I think I've bought Smart Water a couple of times. Other than that, I've never bought like a premium bottled water. I've never bought like any of these that they're Voss core. I think Smart water had the

thing where they had some bigger bottles maybe than than yeah like before a lot of companies had bigger ones i thought that they were one of the first ones to have a bigger bottle so that's why i think i might have had it a couple times but again still just i think overpriced yeah it's all is isn't it yeah it's always isn't it it always always was yeah I think this is where we mention

2023 lift hard lift easy classic is proudly sponsored by Aquafina Aquafina what's in your water that was just because of the Dasani sponsorship fell through. Yes. Well,

should we just start talking about the Sheffield? I mean, I could try calling Shane again here. Should I try calling? Did he say 15 minutes or what was the, uh, we'll give you a synopsis here. Um,

at nine or at eight 26, he said, uh, or no, at nine 17, nine 17, he said, give me 10 more minutes. So that would be 9.27. It has been 14 more minutes beyond that 10 more minutes. So that seems like we should call him then, right?

Yeah, we'll try him again. The least we can do is try it's ringing about to start Please leave your message. Oh, well, let's talk about the Sheffield Classic. Might as well. Yeah. If we don't, we talk about the Sheffield Classic

and we can't get them after that, I guess we'll chalk this one up to not working. I can say we gave it a try. Okay. So did you say you watched some of the Sheffield? I did watch a decent amount of it. I got to see the flight of squats that had jessica in them and then i watched the men's squats right after that actually that was all i watched i watched just squats so um but you watch all the

squats yeah because you want because i think each one is just one flight women and one yep and yeah and then i had to go to the south dakota meet so i had to you know priorities i had to go watch the more premier powerlifting event so i had to say by the South Dakota meet, so I had priorities. I had to go watch the more premier powerlifting event, so I had to say bye to the Sheffield. Yeah, you had a lot of meet stuff going on all day. I did. It was a fun, not too often that I actually care about watching powerlifting, but there was two powerlifting events in one day that I actually cared about watching.

Right. So did you have any takeaways from watching the squats? How was the live stream? Live stream was good. It was on YouTube, so that worked the way you would want it to and expect it to. The things that could be slightly improved on it, production quality seemed really high across the board.

A couple of things that were weird that I had a hard time immediately figuring out was they did this thing because the whole point of the event was was it the percent over the world record is that how they were awarding yes and so they were doing this thing that was like um like someone would get done with their first attempt squat and there'd be a percent to their name that would say like 50 percent and it was like like what the hell I've never seen a percent in a powerlifting meet i had no idea i was getting that but i think it was saying like how far they were

on their way to the total you know or like 40 you know whatever it is sorry finish up their squat and it's saying 42.3 and it has everyone what are we talking yeah it has everyone like ranked by their percent and i'm like what the hell is going and then i figured out okay yes i think this is getting at what percent of the total they are at right now yeah um you know 100 meaning you match the world record where anything over that would mean you pass the world record so that was a little confusing at first because this is the only event that does that but um the uh one of the weirder things. So they had like the onscreen, uh, the onscreen graphics, you know, giving you the lifters name and you know, the lights and the attempts, all that stuff. But what was kind of weird was the second the lifter would complete the lift. So, I mean,

they'd say rack the second their bar was in the rack, whoever was hitting the graphics would hit the next graphic. So let's just say Jessica goes goes the second she racks it it now says the next person's name so it's showing replays showing video they're still showing jessica on the screen they're showing replays and all this stuff but the entire time and you actually don't even have the the judges don't even have their lights in yet you don't even know if the lift was good or bad and it already has a different person's name and total on it. So that part was a little confusing. If you didn't know who the lifters were, you'd have no idea how to keep up with that.

But if you're aware of who they are, you say, okay, yep, I get it. This name was for the person. Or the name is for the person that was just there. Like, this isn't right. And they kept doing that the whole time, which was kind of strange. And then I could not tell from the little bit that i watched like they didn't show the crowd like at all so it was really hard to tell like was and you couldn't really hear him either like was it a big crowd was there a hundred people there was there a thousand people there because right i saw on

instagram like they were in this huge like theater auditorium thing it looked it looked like an impressive thing but i never saw like how filled out it was. Yeah. And I, I had no idea. I could not tell. And the lights were dimmed. So you couldn't really see out in the crowd and maybe that's why they didn't show it. It just wouldn't have looked good.

But yeah, you just had no idea how many people were actually watching them there. So those are, those are things not lifting related, I guess. If I were to comment on the lifting lifting the squats were fun to watch i guess the the big takeaway from the day would be that uh big jesus set the new all-time world record in sleeves which is pretty damn impressive yeah that first i mean that that kind of sold the show i think i didn't watch any of the live stream but that seems to have sold the show it seems like talking about didn't watch any of the live stream, but that seems to have sold the show. It seems like, talking about the live stream, though, what you're talking about,

how they're flipping the next graphic up, like, it seems like they, someone might have pointed that out, like, even in the midst of it, and be like, stop changing that so quickly. And for all I know, maybe they fixed it in bench or deadlift, but I didn't see it fixed in squat at all.

Should we take a pause for a special guest segment? Let's do it. Let's do it. Big Shane, is that you? Hey, sorry about that. My friend just came over. We went to dinner and then he forgot his bag in my car. I'm sorry about that. I don't like this guy already.

I'd get rid of him. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a little forgetful. You're live on the Mastodonics podcast with Tanner and Tommy. What's up, Shane? We're live already?

We're live already. We're right into it. All right, all right, all right. That's cool. Let's go. So you got to put your podcast hat on already. You feel like I got to get a hat? Yeah, your podcast hat. I feel like i need a beer for this podcast yeah that'd be that'd be all right i'm actually having a lacroix right now

are you a sparkling water drinker at all i've been through a few like whole foods has some really good like different flavored sparkling waters. They have that nice glass bottle. It has a nice tactile feel to it. Yeah. So what's your go-to brand or flavor? I don't know. I was in Rhode Island, and my friend Steve, it's like all he drinks.

He's one of those guys. So I just drank a bunch of his. I don't even know what flavors they were but they were all really good i just like emptied him out i was like drink all of this my friend steve trip like shout out shout out to steve sounds like a man of culture over there yeah yeah it's all he drinks he's all he drinks and you said you were in rhode island but where did you moved recently right are you a tex Texas guy now? Yeah, I'm officially a Texan. I moved here in

August of last year. Did that come with a cowboy hat or anything when you moved in? I haven't officially found any cowboy hats. I feel like I have to do something cool here. I'm going to compete at my first meet

in Texas in like 10 days that might warrant it that might warrant the hat yeah if i do well if i do well i might find i might find one and buy one and sport it like that night when we go out because are you uh you're talking about the pioneer um you're you're competing at the pioneer open or the pioneer whatever it's called right right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I got in super late, but I still got in just in the nick of time. So you're hoping to secure some cash prize, I would guess, from that, right?

Yeah, it's a big money meet. It's a big money meet, so hopefully we can make some money. Do you know if you got first overall or like what what how much could you win have you figured it out how much could i win or how much could like the potential like anybody win yeah like what's like or like either way like what do you think you could take home or like if you what's the most somebody could win either way so i believe as long as there's five people in the weight class they're going to pay two grand to the winner of every weight class okay so i think i have 275 hopefully

i can win the 275 weight class so that's two right there and then they're paying a thousand for i think the biggest kind of biggest everything so biggest biggest deadlift biggest total bench squat So then I can pick up another grand there and then the top three dots get paid ten ten Seven and a half seventy five hundred and then five thousand for like top three dots men and women So hopefully I can win my weight class, get the biggest deadlift,

and then win some money in the dots. Who's in the dots running, do you figure? Dan, you, who else is doing it that's in the running? The top dots, just by whatever forecast

or however they say it, isake blake lehue okay and then derrick derrick thistle sweet oh yeah oh so he's competing too okay and shane holler so shane holler damn bell me shane holler and damn bell all have like very similar dots like it's within like a point and a half. And then Derek's a bit ahead of us and then Blake's way ahead of Derek. So there's a big gap between me and

Shane and Dan and Derek and there's a bigger gap between Derek and Blake. So it's almost if everyone has the day they should, it's kind of between me, Dan and Shane for the top for a third. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, Derek's a, he said it'd be, it'd be interesting. Oh, that's cool.

Derek, Derek's a Houston guy. I think, right. Where are you at then? Are you Houston or where did you move to? So I'm in, I'm in San Antonio.

Okay. Actually I trained with Derek. I think it was about two weeks ago. We did a deadlift session. We did a little bit of like benching together. Yeah, his lift, I mean, I think his best lift is his squat. He has a crazy deadlift too, but his squat is just, you know, next level. So we'll see, you know.

Yeah, only time will tell. Ten days out days out right can't hold anything back now yeah i think i think it's next saturday i'm hoping so hopefully yeah hopefully didn't move on help yeah i hope it's not on sunday i've been i've been i've been thinking it's on saturday it's unsanctioned yeah that's what i'm gonna ask yeah it's unsanctioned right yeah so does that does that bug you at all Saturday. It's unsanctioned. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. Yeah, it's unsanctioned, right? So does that bug you at all that it's an unsanctioned meet? Not really. For me, it's mostly, I think it's going to be a really fun meet just because everyone's going to be there.

The combination of people that are going to be there, the fact that it's unsanctioned, I think is actually kind of cool because the first unsanctioned big think is actually kind of cool because the first unsanctioned like big piloting piloting that a lot of people are actually willing to do that's happened in probably like a decade so i think i think it's like i'm grateful to be able to to jump in honestly so even if it doesn't like count you know whatever that means count everyone's going to see it so yeah and in that way like it kind of counts anyway count everyone's going to see it so yeah in that way like it kind of counts anyway because everyone's gonna everyone's gonna know what happens you know yeah so do you know how

does it work so it's unsanctioned i get that but what is what rules exist that how does everyone agree what the rules are if there's not a federation or anything like do you get what i'm saying yeah so i more so lift the weights i don't make the rules i don't know i honestly don't know what they're gonna do i assume they're just gonna use like uspa yeah yeah but the reason obviously they want to do it is because of everything that's happened yeah with the USPA over the last... Exactly. There was something that happened? I never heard anything about that.

Yeah. Actually, I was talking to Goob and he said he might actually be a commentator for the meet, which would be really interesting because he was kind of the catalyst for everything that happened, you know? Yeah, did you see him at the Arnold at all or talk to him there?

You better be on your best behavior or you'd hate to talk about it. Yeah, I did run into him. The first time I met him was at the Olympia, and then I did run into him at the Arnold and at Ghost because he actually commentated for Ghost as well in Miami. Okay. So what did you think of the arnold this year have you been several years before or was uh you know you lifted at the strength co booth and did some stuff there have you done anything like that at the arnold

before no so that was that was my first time at the arnold so everyone said the year before was a bit like watered. There was less people. I can't remember if it was 2021 was the year they had it at Pinnacle or the makeshift Arnold that moved to Pinnacle but still they canceled it. Was that the year

2021 or was that 2020? That was 2020 actually. 2021, I don't know if there was really anything i think there was nothing that year yeah oh yeah because that was the year actually that um jamal was still with animal and he was talking to me about potentially like i think doing something in the cage but yeah then he got with jim shark and then whatever, all that stuff happened. But yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, so 2020. But no, back to your question, that was the first time.

This was my first time ever even being in Ohio. You broke the Ohio and the Arnold cherry all in one weekend. Yeah, but it was a crazy time, honestly. What did you think of the Arnold? Was it fun? Will you be back next year oh yeah i had a great time hopefully i get something as well i was kind of what i said about the olympias too is hopefully i get things kind of lined up earlier versus last minute because

both both of those for me were really spur of the moment like last minute um trips so hopefully i get like more more time to prepare and actually know what i'm gonna do like but i think tolerance up a little higher is that yeah get a get a little you know did you imagine you're gonna be drinking as many beers at the arnold's as you did i want to say no but in a way yes i kind of did anticipate that it would be a little bit a little bit rowdy yes but no i don't think that the volume but definitely the volume of beer was was next level i i posted on my story someone was like how many beers did you drink and i was like i don't know 20 25 and damn bell responded and said i had like 50 so i don't know yeah um yeah and what'd you do at the you deadlifted twice that day too didn't you uh didn't you pull something conventional and then

come back later at the strength co booth and pull something even heavier sumo yeah i think i don't know why but for some reason like people were still dead lifting i came back like hours later from the i did the 810 conventional and that was it was really hype you know it was fun how many reps did you pull that for i did i did six reps with 810 which i i think we planned for it to be 800 but just the way they loaded it was 810 yeah which is a plus an extra 10 pounds I think I thought it was 800 before like while I was doing it I was like this is 800 pounds and then they were like no it was 810 so that was cool but it was it was pretty much the exact number that I planned to do Tyler uh Tyler Obringer he was like do one more and I think I could have done like one or two

more reps i always say that after i do like like an am rap yeah you know but but in the moment like i think i had planned for six like so heavily yeah but once i got to six i just stopped um but yeah eight ten for six which was was pretty good and then i did 900 for four, maybe like two or three hours post post that. Did you, did you rewarm up again? Or like, what was the, like,

yeah, I think I did. I did 500 for like a triple or three or four. And I did 695 for the same thing on two or three. And then straight to to to 900. i have four sort of four three and a half the fourth one was kind of iffy so have you ever have you ever done 900 for like reps before yeah a few times i've done like nine then 915 and 926 both for doubles and then i have actually done like 400 kilos uh for six sumo so that definitely is but that was sober so you know it's a little bit easier

it's a little easier uh so the next day or the next couple days were you hurting unit at all after going like kind of almost an amrap conventional and kind of almost an amrap sumo like did you is there any soreness residual soreness from that or was it not that bad um i don't think the next day it wasn't so bad probably two days after when i flew i flew to houston that was like a three- hour flight that was probably like the worst of it but then after that I think five days later we went to Alphaland and I was with Johnny Kaufman and

Saul here and Nabil and a few other people Derek that was when we dealt with Derek and I did 926 for a double there I think that was on Wednesday so like four or five days later. So it wasn't too bad. I was still feeling pretty good.

Who do you think as of right now today you could go strongman or powerlifters or whatever you want to or you could justify it however you want to. Who do you think is the best deadlifter out of anyone out there right now

in your opinion? I mean, pretty much I had to say Dan Grigsby. But there's an argument to be made for I think Kristoff did like 1110 which is technically the heaviest deadlift ever done. He did that last summer i think

and i don't know if he's done anything heavy since then but he's he's kind of the one to like he won't post a lot uh polish guy you guys probably know yeah yeah his name i think like mr yeah where's back like his name is mr deadlift on instagram uh but yeah definitely one of the best and he he pulled so he did like a 502 and a half kilo um with straps but no belt deadlift weighing i think like 220 or 230 so it's definitely one of the craziest like just the head it literally is the heaviest deadlift ever done and it was beltless and he's not like a huge huge guy so that's kind of crazy too but i think you have to give it to dan just because he did the 1074 in competition and it's just by far heavier than any other deadlift

you know heavier than benedict magnuson 70 pounds above jamal you know it's like it's far it's so far and beyond anyone else like the the margin is just so great that i think you have to give it to dan because it's in competition you know right right big dan the man yeah he's just it's and he just he actually just took the 242 uh record as well he competed this this weekend i think on saturday what did he pull i think he did a thousand thirty okay oh that's four four seventy yeah but he cut he cut all the way to 242. so for him i think he walks around like 15 20-ish pounds more than that so for him to cut that much is is uh and it's his first time ever cutting so he didn't have much experience with the cut but he still he sold i think total 20 22 43 22 42 and hit the all-time

world record deadlift so i think at this point you have to give it to Dan. There's no one who can really contend with that. Yeah, that's probably a fair case. Jamal, at least in training-wise, he's pulling heavier weights more often than Dan is, but Dan has obviously figured out how to make it happen when it's meat day too, I guess. Yeah, I think Jamal definitely has like a potentially a higher just baseline where he can just somehow pull 900 pounds like basically every single day.

You know, he like, it just doesn't, like it doesn't matter, Which I don't understand. I don't know how he does it. Because for me, my baseline is probably somewhere like, I don't know, 100 pounds lighter than that. I just pull that every single day. You could walk in and pull over 800 pounds every single day, you'd think, pretty much.

Probably. In most conditions, I should be okay to do that But his seems to be like somewhere like a nine like 950 range where it's like every day It's there, you know, and he never misses like off the ground. He always will get it moving which is crazy like he never misses I Actually, I don't think I've ever seen grigsby maybe one or two times like just not move the weight off the ground either they're always going to like get it moving

you know right so yeah i think the baseline strength is yeah jamal has like no one's close to jamal's just baseline which is consistently always there always do 900 and somehow make it look looking why like what you watch you like why isn't that hard somehow you know and you can do it conventional or sumo like any given day basically yeah so either way how do you want to see it like i'll do it who do you think is the most most flexible power lifter with like over a 2200 pound total like over a 2200 pound total flexible like in like doing the splits

and you know kind of like the stuff you do do you think there's anybody that can total what you can total or more and still move the way you move I think so I don't know if anyone honestly don't know if anyone's like done it and I mean I feel the effects of being heavier it is it does become more difficult

um to move in some of those ways you know like it's not it's not as easy um but i i don't know like i'm sure dan would be pretty athletic i don't know if he could do like the splits and stuff that's kind of that's kind of like a specific skill to acquire. You're not talking about Dan Bell, you're talking about Dan Grigsby. Dan Grigsby, yeah. Just to be clear. I did see Dan Bell do a full knees forward

heels off the ground squat, like one of those Ben Patrick super knee forward squats. There's no doubt he's for that size, he's still like, well, just watch him when he jumps after he deadlifts every time. I was going to say, yeah, the deadlift.

He's pretty graceful for 400 pounds still. Yeah. The first time I saw him at Hybrid in 2021, the Hybrid Showdown 3, I think, 2 or 3 was I was amazed in the warm-up room it was it was actually kind of terrifying just seeing him like bounce all around like how like quickly he was moving but he was you

know he was like very like in control of him so I was like what's going on because he moves like someone who's much like lighter than he is you know there's a lot of masters moving what's the's the it's different yeah what's the most uh what's the highest number of red kilo plates you pulled off off the bar all at once before um so this back last year it was basically like me johnny Kaufman and Rondell, all kind of, I think some other people jumped into, but we all like sort of went on this, you know, quest to see how many, how many plates you could crack at once.

And like, I, so I started with three, I had done three a bunch of times. I would do it in like training sometimes, you know, it's like, just like, cause people would say I couldn't do it. And I would just like do it. So I'd started with four and then i think both of them did four and then rondell and i both did five but we weren't like holding it in our hands anymore it's more like a searcher yeah kind of like throw it into the elbow and then johnny said like he was done after that because he said that was it was no longer like a grip test it was more like a you know overall body bicep tendon strength test so then rondell did six like i did five and

then the next day ron dealt at six so i was like i'm not gonna do six so i just did six and i put uh i put a chip on there i put like a 0.25 kilo chip on there and I chipped his record. It's just like, just to be funny. So did anyone go above that? Okay. I don't think he did seven. There's some guy, there's some guy on TikTok who I think did like eight. He did like eight, like 20 kilo bumpers, like the blue ones. But he's not even like a huge guy.

I think like he like sort of, he He pulled them out and immediately just threw them all over the place, all over the ground. Which is basically what I did with the six plates that I had too. I basically just tried to slowly lower it to the ground. I didn't actually rack them on any plate tree or anything. I took

them off the bar. I just tried to get them to the ground safely. Were you worried about your feet, the worried about your feet? The safety of your feet at all? No, because I did the whole thing with no shoes on. Living on the edge. I was just there shirtless.

I was basically only wearing shorts. No shoes, no shirt, nothing. I think that's how I did it. I was assuming with the specificity of these questions that you had the video like it's been a while it's been a while i know i've seen it before and it always just struck me as kind of fun a fun uh fun little test uh but it's been a while since i've seen it um you mentioned tiktok there too you know you use instagram and TOK, which one do you use more often or which one do you like better? Definitely like Instagram. Yeah. I made a comment on it. Like, you know, I look,

we use Instagram a lot more often and I like it a lot better too, but I know you're active on Tik TOK too. And it's like, I made the note on even looking at some of your videos on Tik TOK, like the number of people that comment on like your TikTok and then just like, I would say don't get it to put it simply like they don't get, I don't know, a number of things or anything like the comments are just,

some of the comments are so stupid. Whereas I don't see that on Instagram. Do you notice that? Yeah. I think Instagram and even like YouTube is kind of hard to say because people are kind of hit or miss. Sometimes there's some wild people on YouTube as well. But generally those people are more, whatever they're watching, they're more kind of like they want to see it. I think TikTok is just like so many random people just scrolling.

They end up seeing your videos and it's just not like the target audience i guess you could say yeah you just have so many random people that aren't like into lifting at all but they like they want to comment on like everything you know i don't know i'm not exactly sure what it is. And then just the amount of, like, children, like, kids that are on it, too. Yeah, that, too, for sure. You've done some collabs with Squat University, you know, or where he uses you as a model and stuff like that. How did that get started?

I think one, like, this was for the showdown in 2021 i just sent him a video and just asked him if there were any any things that he like saw about my squat because i was having a lot of trouble with mostly like my upper body in the squat not so much the lower body but i was just having a lot of trouble with like the upper body mechanics so i was trying to get some advice about like shoulder shoulder mobility and just like external rotation and just like some specific stuff about how i could like achieve a better shelf that basically didn't cause so much like pain in my squat and that just kind of opened the door we just started talking a bit um like back and forth and he would just use my videos for his own like um like reference and stuff like he would he would just kind of take my videos and use them to make all kinds of other

content that wasn't really related to like that initial thing that i asked him about you know right but the first thing was like i just sent him a video of my squat and then he critiqued it and then he asked me if he could post it. I was like, yeah, like post, post whatever. He posted a few things I think about like that specific squat and then like intermittently he would like ask me if I had a video of me doing like a certain exercise, like Bulgarian split squats or whatever it may be. And I would just like send him to him and he would like make content

out of it but besides that we haven't done like a lot of I've never met him or anything you know yeah big Aaron so was he able to get you set up for a better shelf then he gave me a few things I can do like for my shoulders

and I think it helps but it's still like it's still an issue that I have. I think it's hard to get over the fact that you just have a lot of weight sitting on your rear delts. I just have long arms. It's just always going to cause me some level

of... Squatting 800 pounds isn't supposed to be the most comfortable thing. I just got to live with it, you know. Did he have you do the classic deload to broomstick? Oh, like squat the broomstick? Yeah, that's kind of the, you know, running joke. We've had him on the podcast and he's a good sport, but that's kind of the joke people would make online.

It's like, yeah, something's's not technique isn't perfect deload to broomstick you know yeah if there's any like any technical deviation like all the way back to the start yeah yeah no because i just i didn't really like ask him like for coaching like that i just asked him like for a few tips i think i was like a month out from the meet it was kind of like a last ditch effort honestly just to try to get my squat to be a little bit stronger which it wasn't but i kind of figured it out honestly like a year later and it was pretty much as simple as just putting the bar a little bit higher in my back where it's still low bar but it's just not super low bar, which is obviously very basic.

It's not like nothing very scientific, you know? Right. It's not a very sexy thing to sell. I was like, I just put it a little bit higher on my back. Yeah. Talking about your numbers, you know, you've, you know, pulled well over 900 now, pulled over 900 meets several times, benching over 500, squatting almost 800 pounds.

And for anyone that doesn't know you know you originally did several meets and you compete on tested now you originally did several meets where you're in the us apl when you got started lifting um and you've made huge you know your numbers have gone up through the roof since then talking about the big 900 plus deadlifts and everything i just talked about there but um was it easy uh decision for you to make the change or do you ever think like uh what would my numbers been had i not made that change or do you not give a shit and just want to be as strong as possible um i guess sometimes like i do kind of think about it with how strong like a lot of these natty people are you know a lot of the people that compete like in PA and USAPL, the IPF,

like St. Sheffield. I mean, I kind of wonder, but I was like, I hate to say like, Oh, like I reached my natural potential.

Cause I probably hadn't, but just at the time, just where I was like in my life and everything, I think just like doing that, even though it isn't the healthiest thing I'm not trying to like promote it or anything like that it did kind of just push me enough to force myself to like start making progress again because I've been lifting weights forever and I was probably like two or three years into like just not making any progress

was like a very hard like stagnation where i like was basically stronger in 2018 like the beginning of 20 or middle of 2018 than i was like in the middle or end of 2020 so i just for me i think like mentally it kind of helped but again like it's not what healthy it's like the healthiest thing so it's hard to you know be like oh it was a great it was a great idea oh yeah it's all yeah it's not what healthy it's like the healthiest thing so it's hard to you know be like oh it was a great it was a great idea yeah it depends on what your goals are and everything too you know like yeah it's it's people don't always talk about that side of it too but yeah it's like but there is some give and take right right um but your number shot through the roof too. Like if you look, you know,

your last meet at Raw Nationals in 2019 at like 1650, and then your next meet was, you know, I'd say a year and a half later, your total is 2061. So you like almost 400. That was an insane jump there. if you look if you look at it i had totaled more in 2018 in 2018 i totaled like 16 90 91 92 yeah and i had like an 1800 ish pound like training total okay i was really just never able to make it happen yeah like on the platform and then i think was once i just like once i switched over and i was it kind of just

in my mind it was like all right there's no there's no more things to kind of fall back on like there's no more excuses like this is it and something just like flipped like you know like a switch like flip whatever it was as cliche as that is where i was just like this is it like you're actually doing this now you know like right i took it i took it more seriously like in every aspect not just like oh now i'm like taking drugs i think i trained harder i would like take more time just to sleep you're like i'm gonna take that step i need to make sure that i'm taking all the steps otherwise what's the point you know why is this isn't worth it what's the point if i'm not like right yeah yeah i think i think like when i first started to like for that meat like hybrid specifically i didn't drink for like six months like as like as soon as i started basically taking gear i was like i'm not gonna

i'm not gonna drink and put everything into like doing as good as I can of this meat. And that was a big thing too. Like now that I was like drinking all the time, but if I'm drinking and like whatever, just like living, like not like prioritizing sleep and prioritizing food, it's a vast difference in like how strong I'll be versus if I am, you know? Yeah. Like if I'm living my whole life to be as strong as possible versus just like living kind of however like i feel like how a lot of people kind of live there's nothing wrong with that it's just like that's just how it is but if i put like my whole 24-hour day like being as strong as possible and like sleep as long as i want to eat as much as like i possibly can like three pounds of beef a day you know like

everything like that versus like not it's like a huge gap and how strong I can be and if I'm already gonna like take the drugs to try to be as strong as possible I'm gonna do everything else on top of you know I'm gonna do them like together no I think that was why it was like such a huge difference. Cause I took everything a bit more seriously, you know? No, that totally makes sense.

Um, we've got this little game we like to play with everyone that comes on called overrated underrated. And, uh, for you, we have a big, a big special,

uh, set of Shane hunt overrated underrated topics, and we'll fire them over to you. And it's just your job to decide if each one is overrated or underrated but you have to remember you can't ride the line you can't say it's appropriately related you have to decide if it's over or under so it's like underrated being like just like it's not like a good topic or like well you'll see once we when we when we get to the you'll decide like uh there's a few different ways to look at that.

You can say, like, what does everyone else think of this, and how do I think of it compared? You know, does everyone else think this sucks, and I think it's not so bad, so then it's underrated? Or does everyone else think this is awesome, and I actually think it kind of sucks, so it's a little overrated? Tommy, how would you? Yeah, but ultimately, you are the judge, so you can decide however you want on something. Right, right. Whatever you say, you get to kind of make up why you think it's overrated or underrated, but that's how a lot of people look at it.

Okay, I got you. All right, so overrated or underrated, suicide grip bench press? Definitely overrated. Well, it depends who you ask i think like generally the consensus is that it's not a good idea but i think that like the people that do defend it it's pretty overrated like oh you can drive your triceps better or something but other than you just like put the bar lower in your hand and have a little bit like more security in the grip you know and have you do you train lift that way or you have or before what's the deal i have a little bit okay i'll tell you i met actually met bill casmeyer like a month ago yeah and he told me he was i think i'm gonna try to get this right, the analogy he used. He has some good ones, too.

He's the best. He said benching suicide grip was like taking the steering wheel off of a Lamborghini and then putting vice grips on it and then driving with the vice grips. Wait, so was he trying to say that it's good or bad? He was trying to say it was really bad, that you have no control, that you wouldn't have very much dexterity, I think. I can picture him having talked to Bill a few times before. I can 100% picture that exact conversation, too. Yeah, it was my first time meeting him.

It was pretty surreal. What else did he tell you? Anything else worth repeating? I think he gave me some pretty good advice. He was like, don't be trying. I think he actually posted something today about this. He was like, don't be trying too heavy all the time. He was saying something about 5x5 at 80%.

I think there's some old wisdom to some of those like very general kind of concepts that sound kind of like very arbitrary but i think there's there's something to some of the you know some of those some of the old heads have to say there's something something there yeah yeah kaz has told us some good uh giving us some damn good advice over the years yeah okay that's that's funny that's good okay overrated or underrated shot put um i'd say underrated in terms of like just like the the athleticism that those guys possess and like a lot of those guys would be like incredible power lifters or strongmen if they actually transitioned over like i think um what's his the the current guy i can't remember his name i think his last name is uh kovacs yeah

yeah yeah there you go he's he's i think he has like a 400 kilo triple on squat i've seen him squat like 705 for 10 high bar and i think think he just broke, he broke like a 30 year old. I think he broke Randy Barnes all time. Maybe he didn't break it. Maybe Ryan Krause had broke it, but yeah, shot put is hugely underrated. I think,

I think more people should be, should appreciate that. You toss or put it around the old shot a little bit. Didn't you? Yeah. Just in high school. I wish, I wish I had gotten to take it a little bit, didn't you? Yeah, just in high school. I wish I had gotten to take it a little bit further. I really only did it for like 16 or 17 months.

I didn't really do it that long. I didn't do it like all throughout high school, just my junior and my senior year. So I didn't get, I think, like the full – I definitely didn't tap the full potential of what was there. Do you think you could put it a little farther now that you could got a 800 pound squat, 900 dead, 500 bench. Do you think that would help a little bit?

Yeah, but I think like drug tests and all that. Ah, we're not worried about that stuff. It doesn't matter. Drug test, shrug test. Okay. Overrated or underrated?

I'm being 100% honest. I don't know what this is exactly about, but I just know I've seen it on your stuff before. So I don't know if you can tell us, but overrated or underrated? Nose breathing. Oh, definitely underrated

there's this big thing like a year ago where i posted like a bit of a bit of stuff about nose breathing and i made the like i guess i used a little bit too much hyperbole and i was like if you're gonna do cardio and breathe through your mouth you might as well just not do cardio and then a lot of people got really mad at me and they're like you're trying you're keeping cardio you're trying to keep the obese american population fat by making them scared of exercise and i was like what are you talking about like i made a joke about like breathing through your nose i read like a few books and like i don't know kind of it did help

me quite a bit i think like breathing through my nose more it's like it's an obvious thing that people don't like they don't always do especially like when they're exercising they'll just like revert to mouth breathing but if you can just like for the most part breathe through your nose usually you'll feel a lot better so nose breathing underrated definitely underrated by most people but i think people are waking up because like as soon as andrew huberman said something about it they were like he was like oh it's good then like a bunch of people were like oh i'm sorry they were like apologizing to me okay all right uh last topic We usually save the most important for last. So overrated or underrated smoking cigs or darts or heaters,

whatever you'd like to refer to them as. And keep in mind, people really shit on smoking cigarettes a lot. They're pretty lowly rated already. Yeah. People don't like them anymore, I guess. They used to. Yeah. I mean, I guess they're a little bit underrated, but you shouldn't make it like a habitual thing, you know?

It's just like a fun thing every once in a while. I think that's a fair take on it. That's probably the honest take, actually. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to make it like your mission to smoke a pack or two every day. You know? But the occasional dart when you're out with your buddies?

Yeah, if you're a little too drunk, once in a while. Get a little head buzz going that you didn't know you could get wake you up a little bit yeah weird you recently had like some photos where you were smoking heaters and uh we made the comment you mean for all the dangerous effect of cigarettes and you know everyone's well aware of it at this time there still is something kind of classically cool about photographs and stuff of like people smoking where it's like yep i still get the marketing from like the 1950s when they're like yeah this is cool you're like you know what i mean like they still don't like they don't take pictures of like someone

putting a fat dip in their lip and go like oh man that's so classy yeah that wouldn't that definitely wouldn't wouldn't be the same um but no we just like randomly decided to do it we're on the way to waffle house and we're like we had a camera all right let's take some pictures of us like smoking a cigarette we didn't even plan to smoke it i think i did smoke it but so it was authentic we can't let it go to waste. Yeah, then we ate at Waffle House right after. Oh, perfect. What's your go-to at Waffle House?

Waffle House is so hot right now, everyone's talking about Waffle House all the time. Yeah, you can just get like an all-star. Yeah, okay. Chocolate waffle, eggs, grits and hash browns. Kind of sounds like the works. Coffee. eggs, grits and hash browns. Kind of sounds like the works. Coffee.

Good news, it looks like you passed overrated, underrated. It was a pass-fail sort of game and you passed, so that's cool. Oh, really? Yeah. So even if the Pioneer Open doesn't pan out, at least you've got this feather in your cap. I got the American Pro in about seven months, too. Where's that at? That's in Virginia, Manassas, Virginia,

October 27th or 28th, so that's going to be the big one for the year. I'm sure you guys will be out there, right? We haven't been there for it before. We used to go to the showdown in Kansas City and if we were to go to one like that, it would probably be the one to go to though, right?

Is that a lot of the big... I mean, have you talked to some of the other guys or a lot of people doing that one this year? Yeah, if you guys were going to go to like if you had to choose one this year, I would definitely go to that one like i think like as of right now like hack yeah zack myers i'm doing it there's like everyone's doing it you know everyone so that'd be the one to go to for sure okay and they put on a pretty good uh production there don't they yeah i didn't actually do it last year

but everyone that did it said it was it was like next like next level dan griggs said it was uh it was like the most he's ever felt like a like uh i don't want to say a real sporting event but like you know like an actual like felt like a big championship yeah yeah yeah it was just uh like on a big stage i think they had like a jumbotron and like they had him walk down the carpet it was it was cool yeah uh right on oh i was gonna ask you too uh was the arnold your first experience with huck finn in person uh yeah yeah i think that was our first time meeting. How would you describe that? I mean, I don't want to say that it was not that surprising.

Kind of what you expected. It was exactly how I expected it to be. Which is a good thing, you know? It's like no bullshit. That's just how he is. Yep. He's just wild. Yep, that's right.

One other thing. Do you have any relatives named Mike? Oh, I do not. No, no Michaels in the family. Oh, because it'd be funny, kind if you did i know i do have uh i do have uh my aunt is with a guy his name is mike but she's on they're not married but if she took her name they're still yeah yeah then they'd be on to something yeah then then then they just you know that would break the internet for sure. It's not like your middle name by chance, is it?

No. I wish. I could probably get that changed at least. Yeah. I could just get that changed. Yes. All right. Awesome.

Well, we appreciate it. You got the Pioneer. We're not keeping you up. We didn't keep you up too late, did we? No, I was just getting home from dinner. I went to Texas Roadhouse. Got a few steaks in me. Multiple steaks?

No, just one steak. I was going to say a few beers, but I didn't want to sound like I was drinking and driving, so I was like, steak. Good save. The cops do listen to this show. Oh, shit. They've been out in Texas, though.

We're big with Texas cops for some reason. The SAPD are real big fans. Real loyal listeners. Awesome. Well, we appreciate you coming on. We're glad we got to get it done this time Yeah I appreciate you guys having me on Everyone will be excited to listen And find out that we really made it happen

For real this time I know they probably won't even believe it The thing is like April Fool's Oh that's perfect timing I was going to say It almost is April Yeah that's perfect timing. I was going to say, it almost is April. Yeah, that's what day of the week. Damn, we should have been planning this better.

That would be the day before this drops. Yeah, well, close enough. Yeah, it's close enough. Just call it April Fool's. Yeah, yeah. All right. Awesome. Well, thanks, Shane. Good luck at the meet, too. Yeah, thanks, Shane. Good luck.

Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, see ya. All right, y'all. Have a good one. You, too. Awesome. Well, thanks, Shane. Good luck at the meet, too. Yeah, thanks, Shane. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. See ya. All right, y'all. Have a good one. You, too. Later. Cool beans! Cool beans! Beans!

Cool beans! After a whole lot of delays, he got the cool beans. We finally got to give Big Shane his cool beans, didn't we? I've had those cool beans sitting here for a long time. Those have been on ice for months, haven't they? Those have been waiting for a long, long time. That was back in Studio 6 that we were trying to give him those cool beans, wasn't it?

They were. Yeah. Well, that was fun. We kept him out of bed long enough this time to get the full rundown, didn't we? Kept him from drinking. We just kept him on the straight and narrow tonight yeah yeah i don't i guess it was inconclusive if he had any heaters tonight

though you know yeah we probably could have pushed him a little harder on that to found out to find out if it is a funny thought uh to say that cigarette it's really not a funny thing to say if cigarettes are underrated but it's almost like you can get behind that that logic you can draw you can kind of get behind that logic though kind of in a way yeah a hundred percent i feel like he uh i feel like he really nailed the the logic on that one it's like well i mean if you could just have like one or two and be good but i think that's the problem is they're highly addictive and most people have an incredibly hard time having one or two once in a while. Yeah. That is a funny thought, though.

Like, oh, no, I just had my one cigarette for the week. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Keeps me honest. I have maybe said this on the podcast before, but i've never had a cigarette in my life i think you have said that actually not even i have never had a puff of a cigarette in my life i've had that's a very very honest puffs yeah but man it's crazy actually thinking back at the number of people like when you're in college that it feels like smoke cigarettes oh yeah all the time like it just every party all the time it just it feels like everyone's a smoker yeah like

you think that it doesn't exist anymore and then you're in your 20s and then it it appears that everyone is a smoker and then now as time goes on you're like well no one smokes cigarettes i tried like uh through the college days and slightly after and through my military days. I tried to take up chewing so many times because I always thought like everyone else is doing it. I'm bored. Like this must be. And I tried multiple times and every time I'd be like, yeah, I'm pretty sick from this now. And why would I do that?

I've only ever had like the what are they like the snooze packets or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Like the hell those are. The ones that are diet chew. Even that, I'm like, yeah, nah, I don't care for this. Big Caden at the gym, he does Zins. And I always say Zins for the win. You know what Zin is?

I don't think so. I think it's tobacco-less. It's just nicotine, I think. I think it's tobacco-less or it's, what is it? It's just nicotine, I think. I think it's just, I don't even know. Oral nicotine pouches. Yeah, oral nicotine pouches. So they're not tobacco, they're just the stimulant.

Is what my completely non-existent understanding of them is. Well, apparently they're proven to appeal to the youth, as all things tobacco do. Well, Big Caden, he's a young fella. He is. He's fallen for the marketing pitch. But he has them, like, before he lifts, because it's, you know, nicotine is a stimulant, you know, not completely unlike caffeine.

I by no means understand the differences or anything like that. They do not contain leaf tobacco, it says. Right. The products are derived from tobacco and contain nicotine. But due to the absence of tobacco leaf, the Food and Drug Administration does not classify it as a smokeless tobacco product. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. So I don't know how old do you have to be to buy Zins then.

Is there an age? That's a good question. I don't know. Yeah, I've never heard of these things. This is new to me. Oh, it does say 21 plus though. Yeah. Interesting that they don't classify it as that but yet you still

do have to be 21 but anyone could go buy a coffee right and have and load it on 300 or a energy actually a better example of an energy drink yes you know young people aren't buying coffees they're buying do you think that would be the thing where you know when people for a long time almost thought of alcohol as like therapeutic you know a long time ago and same thing like cigarettes were like therapeutic and they thought they were good yeah like oh you gotta cough just go home and smoke a pack of cigarettes or whatever like right the doctors almost tell you that do you think there'll ever be a time where people like remember when people would just drink energy drinks all the time and they thought it was okay

yeah do you think that will ever be a thing uh yeah that i find out like that i could see it turns out like these like taking on like 500 plus milligrams of caffeine every single day for your life of your life and also all the other weird shit they put in energy drinks turns out that's actually not good for you and can have long-term effects yeah yeah i mean i could see that happening but knows? There's also so much money in that industry that it'd take a long time for any bad news to come out on it, I think. I mean, they brought down Big Tobacco, though, in that way. They brought down Big Tobacco. Yeah, they weren't going up against Big Coca-Cola, though, were they?

That's true. Marlboro Man ain't got shit on Coke. No, you don't. We didn't really put a bow on the sheffield but uh my big just biggest takeaway was obviously big jesus like obliterated everything that dude you know he squatted 1036 bench 600 and pulled 904 so that was the heaviest deadlift ever in ipf history is it really yeah like single ply or oh no no i don't know about single ply okay maybe maybe i don't know that though that doesn't seem right but it's possible but yeah for sure and uh raw tested that's yeah that's in a 600 pound bench that's pretty wild part of it the squat i somewhat

expect you know i just i mean nothing none of it is like out of what was possible and expected but it's funny when i pull up the list one other note on it when i pull up the list on open power lifting it by default sorts by dots and of course dots is not how they determine the winners they determined the winners by percent of breaking the world record right but it's just funny that in comparison because by dots amanda lawrence smoked it for the win on women is it dots or is this saying like that gloss and oh oh yeah yeah no no that's what i'm getting it by glp here yeah good lift points oh that's what that is that's what the ipf work uses good lift points so amanda laurence crushed it on good lift points and the person that actually won is

evie corrigan and where is she at she is sixth uh and are those all women there yeah so that one two three four five six seven the first seven are all women which is i mean all the coefficients almost always favor women though don't they right well i don't know if yeah it kind of seems like that but my thought it's funny that amanda got in the final standings because of the way they do it. She got seventh, but yet she by traditional scoring. Yeah. Yeah. You know, she spanked it.

Right. Right. Yeah. That is interesting. Like if you're Amanda Lawrence, isn't that a little bit annoying? And she had a 591 pound deadlift. Also the biggest women's biggest, biggest deadlift. Yeah.

deadlift also the biggest women's biggest the biggest deadlift yeah but because i would guess it's because she's already set the bar so high for the total record in her weight class she didn't actually surpass her best total ever you know she has to beat her former self in order to well i think she did but it just wasn't by enough percentage well no because her percent on the list is 97.2 oh it is really oh yeah there's like of the women there's only two that have over 100 so and i think there was like five yeah i thought there was like five women that were over 100 no there's only two oh how many guys were over 100%? One. Really?

Jesus. Really? There was only two people that broke the all-time world records? Or three people? Three, two, the total world record, I guess. Yeah, that's according to this. I'm looking at SBD posted, and they've got the standings and then the percent next to them. They're all like in the 90ss but there's only three of them

that are actually over 100 percent interesting i i must have looked at it differently or the wrong thing because yeah i thought that there was multiple people but maybe i was looking at like single lifts or something like that yeah and then if you looked by good lift points also you know Jesus wouldn't be the winner there but he's also super heavy so you know it it seems appropriate that Jesus won okay it does though like you know it'd be a shame if he didn't oh yeah to be though like well if he didn't it's like no this is screw this is f to like yeah like the whole point of the sport is to lift the most weight but uh yeah you were the biggest guy you lift the most amount of weight ever but because of the sport is to lift the most weight, but yeah, you were the biggest guy. You lift the most amount of weight ever, but because of the way we divide up the sport,

yeah, actually, we had to give it to some other, like that would be such a slap in the face. Yeah, and of note, he broke Ray's record in the IPF, of course, and he broke Dan's sleeve record. Which Dan did make the comment, I believe, on Table Talk, like he thought that there was like a 90% chance that I won't have this in a month or two. So he knew this was coming.

Yeah, Jesus, 24 years old. That is insane. It did really feel like Ray's record when that was going on, that it could just probably stand forever. And here we are, not that many years later. It just shows that his well-roundedness is like the, that's what builds the total obviously. But if anything,

it just shows that even when you think something is just a really good record in this day and age, that means it's going to stand for a couple of years at the most. Right. Right. There's just always someone bigger and better coming. Well, the,

the interesting part here is like, Hey, Zeus is 24 he put together this 25 25 25 41 total he's 24 years old he seems to only be getting better where is he going to take it to I know does he go to 26 plus naturally I it seems weird to think he wouldn't like did you watch the issue the only issue is if he gets hurt that is that is it's going to think he wouldn't. The only issue is if he gets hurt. That is. It's going to be.

He's pushing the kind of weights where it's so possible to get hurt all the time. Is the body really made to be handling that? But he's so young, so that's in his favor. But did you watch his last deadlift? It was so fast. If you told me this guy could deadlift 1,000 pounds at some point, I'd say, well, well yeah that's not surprising it looked to me like he got like at least one red light on every lift like every single lift and i'm and a lot of them i'm like what's the red light for i think like why are they just like oh we just better give them one i think it is the ipf like they just

always have to red light one at one at all times don't they like i thought his squats they look dunked i was like those were unquestionably deep enough i thought on the one what i saw don't didn't you think like for a big dude yeah especially with a big dude like the way their hip crease is on their body yeah i thought there was no doubt about it but i do it's see i had thought based what i heard on this for what they're going by winners it sounded like taylorwood was going to have a really good chance of winning, and he obviously did not. So I don't know if he has some sort of injury related there. Yeah, because his performance, his total was 17-14,

which actually the meet before this, he had a 17-41. So, I mean, he was actually, yeah, he's even had a, well, was he down a weight class? Like three meets ago he had an 1848 total. So he was over 100 pounds off of that even. You'd have to think that there's injury related to that. But I guess it's just a funny formula for picking the winner because, like, the better you do, the more you're raising this record,

the harder it is for you to win this again. I don't know. It's just a weird dynamic, I think. It's weird. And it's also confusing. We even follow the sport to a certain extent, and it's confusing for us. Outside eyes, this would make no goddamn sense at all.

It would be the most obscure, confusing thing ever. Right. I mean, it's a good way to reward people to try to break records. It is, no doubt about that. And there was a ton of money on the line, too. In powerlifting, that's what people want to see is records, kind of, right? Mm-hmm. So I get the logic behind it, but it's weird the way it plays out, I think.

And also, supporting our supporting members, Big Jessica went, did she go 8 for 9? Looks like she went 1, 2, 3, yes, 8 for 9, missed her last deadlift. 8 for 9, so she had a squat PR, I know that. 485 squat, 237 bench, hit a 556 deadlift and missed 577. Okay, yeah. So I think it was overall a really good meet for her. It's just, you know, the competition.

I mean, it is the best competition in the world at this thing. So every, Jessica probably has one, two, three, four, I don't know, probably 20 meets in here. Every single meet she's done, she's placed first or second, except it looks like where she did a meet in France like last year. Okay. And she got fifth at that one. I'm confused what that meet is because it just says girl power competition.

Oh. FF4. I don't know what that is. That was like called girl power or something like that. I don't remember that. I don't know that she went into that like fully like really with the whole intention of even her numbers were down a little bit on that one i think that was semi-intentional though yeah so that means she got fifth otherwise all of her other meets she's at first or second and the ipf placed 10th it's just great art sorry

the chef field like it just shows like a really good with a good meet for her too. You know like that. Yeah. Yeah it looks like her second best dots total ever. Who is the oldest person competing in this? That's a good question. My immediate guess

would be Bonica. She's tied with Taylor Atwood. They're both 34. Yeah, this person on the bottom. Oh, no, 35. About 35. So they could also be. So it just shows like, yep, 34, 35,

your chances of being really, really good almost disappear. Well, maybe Taylor has hit an injury wall with age. I'll tell you what, I'm'm 34 i know how that goes man there's a whole lot more 20s in this list than there is 30s yes there is remember the thing used to always be like oh you don't hit your peak strength until your late 30s and now man maybe it geared people are are um enhanced people but yeah damn doesn't it just feel so hard to recover in your 30s? Part of it is just life

though too. That's what I'm saying. Kids. Kids. Right. They unconsciously are just killing you unknowingly every night by just the amount of not sleep I've had in the last six months of my life is just insane. This would have just crippled me when I was younger

and somehow I'd crawl out of bed every day of the lifestyle seems bigger than the age like the lifestyle or not the lifestyle not like it's like a rock starts part you know it's just the life demand stressors is yes the life stressors that add up your job you know a little bit sort of matters now that you're in your 30s right whereas in your're assuming nothing matters it's so much easier to spend way too long in the gym i want to sleep for 15 hours or 12 hours tonight either one's fine i just got to choose yeah do i want to be at the gym for two hours or five hours again doesn't matter it's totally up to me like yeah those things are not an option anymore yes i i think uh i don't know in terms of like peak strength i think it is possible like in within your late 30s even with lifting i mean like yes and i don't i still just

heart it's just that's what i was gonna say if i could stay healthy i think i could still hit now and i never had like big elite numbers anyways, but I think if I could stay healthy, I could have the potential to hit an all time PR total or at least PR some lifts. It's just the staying healthy and recovering part is so damn hard right now. Yeah. And like, I don't know, it doesn't really, you made the point, like, not like we have elite totals, but that's kind of almost not relevant because it's like we've trained really hard for really long periods of time so it's just like we have genetic limitations you know like some people are only ever going to be so strong so like we have pushed it really hard right yeah it's like checking all the boxes so it's not like it's like we never even got done with the newbie gains

right right it's like you you pushed it uh really hard to like you know get your strength up to a certain level so like passing that now is hard you know it is that is a hard accomplishment right right yes it did take multiple years of hard dedicated training to actually get to that basically never missing training for years and like eating a certain way for years because it's like I'm the same way. It's like because our numbers, like you said, it's not elite numbers, but it's

kind of putting in similar amounts of work as some of, you know. True, yes. There's a lot of the people in that and then it is just hard to get to pass that after a certain while, especially if you've done it for enough years. It's just, it's tough. But I think you can.

You just have to have a lot of things fall in the right way when you do have those life stressors. You do. I know. It's just so many. It is just like a roll of the dice. It's like, what am I going to get? Like, what am I going to get this next month?

Is it going to be in my favor or not? And it's funny how it can come and go. I mean, it doesn't come and go quickly, but? And it's funny how it can come and go. I mean, it doesn't come and go quickly, but at the same time, how quickly it can come and go in the way that I've been at points where I'm like, I'll never be stronger again.

And then, you know, the last meet I did all of a sudden I was hitting numbers again and even hitting PRS and some of this. And I'm like, wow, I last couple of years, I thought I would never be doing that again.

And then I ultimate, like I squatted 600 pounds for the first time. of this i'm like wow i last couple years i thought i would never be doing that again and then i ultimate like i squatted 600 pounds for the first time and this was after going through injuries that i thought i will never be stronger than yeah yeah that was after having acl knee surgery uh-huh but then again now i'm like well now i do i once again i'm in the pit of despair versus the, on the mountaintop where it's like, but it is possible. It just, it can turn around like in a weird way too, where you're like, I know you are totally right there. And I have to give myself a reality check sometimes too, because like I walked away from the gym the other day after doing that set of three 85 and I was like, ah, kind of felt like, ah, I sort of left some weight out there it's sort of annoyed i'm like well a year ago i would have not even thought

that was ever possible and here already i'm thinking like okay oh i messed that one up not as good as it should have been and like a year ago would you even like if you loaded 385 on the bar like i don't even know if i could have walked that out right like you would have been in pain and like yeah that wasn't an option i'm trying to think oh i could open up juggernaut a year ago i probably did a set of eight that was in the mid twos right that's probably what my set of eight was right so yeah things do change yeah it's like the old saying goes the old uh rp 10 The old RP10 8-rep days are long, but the mesocycles are short. You know what else they say? What's that? Make sure to head over to spud-ink-straps.com.

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I really liked that, uh, dramatic dammit you added into the ad. So I'm going to, could you tell that I added So I'm going to, could you tell that I added that? I'm going to experiment with that. Yeah.

Just like in this adding, is that a superlative? In that case, it was awesome. It was what that was. Most shoes harm no mobility by over-restricting your damn foot's natural movement. Did I do that correctly there?

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10% on your next goddamn order. Once again, that's code MASSANOMICS to save 10% at Barefoot Shoes. Tanner and I wear them all the time. We love them. I can't wait for it to be nicer out so I can wear my barefoot shoes when there's not huge puddles everywhere.

Until then, I'm wearing the boots still, but I want wear the shoes outside so um if you want to be like me and tanner make sure to get yourself a pair of barefoot shoes i think more big companies need to add in damn it more often i think it's a missed opportunity reputable companies to differentiate their their marketing messaging for sure it really makes you listen up if someone starts saying, damn it. How many of those are you allowed in an ad on television? My guess is probably zero, but if it's one or two, then I think that's underutilized. Are you allowed zero? As far as curse word goes, it's not that high on the naughty list, is it?

I'm just saying it because I don't recall hearing any ads on TV. That's why my guess is zero. I think it's perfectly accepted. It's just being way underutilized. Boy, local radio could be in for a real treat if people get onto that secret. Someone, one of these big companies needs to hire us to put together an ad campaign where it's all focused around using dammit. It'd sure get people talking. there's no doubt about that buy our prescription drugs damn it fix your damn whatever you got

whatever like a certain percentage of all advertising like about prescription drugs now like isn't that like a huge doubt it at all yeah there are so many of them especially if you watch shows that are uh have an audience of older people god oh yeah there's a lot of just odd supplements and pharmaceuticals that are marketed yeah uh you did have one other thing i saw that you put in there as we were recording we should probably mention that before we sign off did you see this yes yes i really enjoyed this so uh i'm mark bell on one of i'm assuming it was on one of his podcasts yeah it must i just saw the clip whatever the hell this podcast is called but so the clip was playing for mark bell and his uh crew and it was john well it was Dan Bell deadlifting in his

event with Thor at the Arnold so they're at the rogue booth deadlifting and we said this we said this the whole time they're they're deadlifting they're all serious and there's Jonathan in the corner in his pink speedo and his jean jacket on. And to the unsuspecting people, which in this case is Mark Bell and his co-host, they're thinking, what the hell is going on? Why is this guy back here? This makes no sense. No one else is back here.

It's just this guy, this guy being Jonathan. And the funniest part is they go, isn't that that one guy? And someone goes, yeah, Huck Finn, right? Yeah, I love that they thought it was Huck Finn. He's been on the show before he's been on the show before they don't that's what i was thinking i'm like he he has been there in person on mark's show before and he didn't mention like no that's not him i know who huck finn is yeah yeah i've actually spent time with this guy in person i you might even been sponsored by at one point who knows he was that now that you mentioned

that he was but at least in the clip he'd ever said anything to that would indicate that he knew but that was uh that was a very funny clip yeah it is very and they're like oh there he is he's standing right underneath the rogue logo he's like someone said like uh rogue had to have been like what's going on here like someone goes he probably wasn't even invited in there he just showed up like that might not be completely untrue i think they were right on most of that but yeah we were saying we were just hoping the whole time that rogue would have one of their super serious overly dramatic edits like they do for the strong man in at the booth that day and you'd be just seeing these guys like so focused and pulling big weight.

And then just you keep getting shots of this guy in a pink Speedo in the background. And it takes you out of the moment. I'm surprised they didn't make a video like that. There had to have been a camera crew like that there. I was waiting for it. It's almost been too long now. So I assume they're not. Maybe they just had no usable footage because Jonathan was in the back of all of it in Speedo.

That might have been it. Bill over at rogue was like, yeah, we can't use this. Since the confusing message, who let this guy in here? Damn it. Rogue fitness.

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No, no, no. We can't afford that. No. Anything else, Tommy? I don't know. We're only two hours and 20 minutes in. I feel like if we didn't cover it by now, then we don't have time to jump into it. One last thing I'd point out is we are at 486 five-star podcast reviews.

We are 14 measly reviews away from 500. And we've got something very big planned for when we get to 500. So please go out and leave us a five-star podcast review. It could happen any day. You know, we put enough of these requests out there. A few more people leave them here and there. We're going to be in the 490s in no time. You could be the difference maker here. You could could be the difference help us get that number 500

um give give us a review we really want to get to 500 it's going to be be something big we'll just tell you that it'll be big tommy where do they find you at you can find me at tomahawk underscore d you can follow me at tanner underscore baird but just make sure to follow massonomics at Massonomics. See you.