Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 372: Bryce Krawczyk

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Big Bryce Krawczyk of Calgary Barbell joins us for this one. We talk music, powerlifting, documentaries, and we get to the bottom of Bryce being a closet cowboy! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://store.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. I hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! Welcome back everyone to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Oh, that's not right. Wait a minute. It's not the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. This is of course episode 372 of the Massonomics Podcast, the lifting podcast about new fin recorded live from western northeast south dakota and eastern

southern eastern south eastern dakota does that sound right tommy that sounds very my name is tanner and my name is tanner yeah did i hit all i might have added some extra directions in there just just okay well it was oddly specific i it was just getting really really specific you know the circle is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. It was. People are going to know where I live pretty soon to keep that up. Like people that know our directions formula, that just basically gave away your address.

You pinpointed me. It's like giving my latitude and longitude over here. Yeah. See, you don't really need all those systems of directions and addresses and stuff. All you need is the four cardinal directions. You do, just four of those, and you just say them enough, and you get really specific.

Yeah. Oh, boy, we got a hell of an episode to get through this week in episode 372. We've got Big Bryce coming on as a guest later. That's going to be fun. We've got a new podcast to talk about, even though there aren't other podcasts. We've got YouTube action. Quite honestly, we've got one, two, three, like 10 topics over there. Some secret code words in the list. Yeah, there's some secret stuff that

there's some stuff Tommy put in there where I don't even know what it is. There's some stuff I put in there where Tommy might not not know what it is. So it's going to be an episode full of surprises. That's that's what people love it for, right? I almost can't wait. But first, but first, to leave everyone on a cliffhanger, what I would tell you is head over to The Strength Co. and listen to this. This is The Strength Company. We've set out to build a better barbell plate on American soil. We ended up here at Wisconsin's legendary Wapaka Foundry.

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Unpaid and Underrated has now officially been published. It has been. There's been a couple episodes out. Yeah, I'm about halfway through the first episode. I'm liking it so far. Episode zero. Yes, episode zero. Yes, that's correct.

Yeah, I'm about halfway through. I'm liking it so far. I'm excited to finish this one out and listen to episode one, where I'm assuming they really hit their stride and just go crazy. Yeah, they really dive into it around episode one somewhere. That's when they really start getting into it. I have listened to both. I think it's great, a great podcast.

For anyone that doesn't know, I believe the official name is Unpaid and Underrated. Someone in the Discord crew can give the second line to that. But anyways, it's the Mastonomics crew members. They started their own podcast. It's a podcast by crew for crew all that stuff uh check it out it's it's been pretty fun it's going to be a fun chance for us to hear a little bit more about some of the people that have supported us for a long time so i think that's pretty cool and to get the massonomics take second hand you know we know how we think about things but now we're going to get a more long-form

conversation about the appearance from a different perspective yeah just as long as they never say anything bad about us i can't imagine why they ever would i mean that was just crazy talk not even anything bad but just not even anything critical well no what could they ever be critical of nothing to be critical so check that out i think it's actually now like you could listen to it uh everywhere you listen to podcasts yeah that's where i listen to massomics podcast you could find it there yep i was waiting for it to pop up in my podcast feed and it is there now so actually you know what i gotta make sure i gotta make sure i actually hit there.

Now I'm subscribed. I was just playing it. I wasn't subscribed before. Jeez, what kind of supporter am I? Not a very good one. No, but now we're good. Did you see a couple things about YouTube? I have a YouTube written down here. Obviously, we've been pumping out a new YouTube video every

week, so make sure you're subscribing to the Mastonomics YouTube channel. That wasn't really the comment I was going to make, though. Did you see... Did I talk about last week about the change in programming going on at Mastonomics Gym? Oh, yeah. The change in television programming? You got the Roku now, or...

Yeah, we got the... Whatever, streaming device. Yeah, I've got a playlist of about 21 television programming you got the roku now or yeah we got the whatever streaming device yeah i've got a playlist of about 21 uh massonomics videos that are playing there and it's all the old competitions all of the gym tours it's uh got juggernauts uh video in there when they were at the gym yep and then it's got a couple of our reviews like the strength co-plate review so there's about 21 videos in there. I would assume the whole playlist is several hours long because some of those event videos alone are like 30, 40, 50 minutes.

But for any IT people, maybe even Tommy, you have a thought on this. So I'm using a TV with a Roku stick plugged in and then using YouTube. And on YouTube, I've got it figured out where you can go to any playlist and loop it, so it should continue to play. Roku has a setting. I got this far, at least. They have a setting that, by default, they'll only let you play for four hours straight, and then they'll ask you, you know, are you still watching when there's no activity?

I got that switched, so that's off so it should keep playing but something keeps happening where youtube quits working shuts off freeze you know it's like i don't know what it is it'll loop but i can even test i can go to the end of the playlist and i'll loop back around to the beginning and stuff but something between the time I leave there and like you know 24 hours later when I come back it's screwed up almost every time yeah that's a good question I'd have to do some googling there I don't know the only real that's the only real workaround is this that we know for sure would work save all the videos burn them to a dvd put the dvd in the dvd player yeah or could you you i suppose you could put it on a usb drive itself and play that through the tv probably but then you're at the mercy of that usb drive and however the tv handles that too

which i don't know if that's right or not yeah yeah there's definitely some way i'm just not sure if so if anyone has experience with looping YouTube videos in perpetuity through Roku sticks. You get YouTube premium where you can save videos offline, and then it probably just lets you play it nonstop. Yeah. So I don't know. And it also could be that the TV is like 15 years old.

Maybe the TV is like, you know, I don't know how it's really related. It doesn't seem like it should be. Yeah, I don't know. All the TV is doing is doing what the road is telling it. All those streaming services got to do so much to protect their bandwidth, I think. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if by default they do almost everything they can to stop long-term playing without any input. Right, right.

And that's what's happening. That is what I believe is happening. But someone out there probably knows a workaround to it. Yeah, there's got to that is what i believe is happening but someone out there probably knows a workaround to it yeah there's gotta be no but it is fun i do like i do enjoy seeing that stuff especially the really old competitions you put it on instagram today there was the the plate video and i was shocked to see that because i i did not know that was in the playlist so and i think that one's getting looped i really want these to loop so that when i i want the feeling of coming in and not having any idea what videos and just

be like, I just want to catch a part of the video while I get ready instead of just be surprised. I have to like restart it. And I'm like, Oh, I know the order. And like,

I want to just like be caught, be like, Oh, there's that time. You know, let wheel goes. What am I going to get? Yeah.

I hear you. Yeah. You know, on, on YouTube news today, this like the past few days, it really hit me. time you know that's when that wheel goes what am i gonna get yeah i hear you yeah you know on youtube news today this like the past few days it really hit me i think i need to subscribe to youtube premium the ads are just getting out of control like there's just so many ads that play all the time and that's probably our primary it It's funny. You have all these streaming services. I can say without a doubt, the service we watch the most is YouTube. Like me personally,

I watch so much. On your TV. Oh yeah, on our TV. I watch so much stuff on YouTube. My boy, he just likes to watch shows on YouTube, you know, kids shows and all that. And part of me thinks, why am I not just buying YouTube premium to skip all of these ads?

I pay for all these other services that I watch maybe a couple hours a week at a most, you know, and like YouTube, the numbers are so much higher. So I'll probably break down and do that pretty soon, but I'll, so that's not YouTube TV.

That's just, that's live TV. It's a different, that's just ad. That's just ad free YouTube. Yeah. And technically it lets you, I think it lets you download videos

and save them for like offline play you know like when you sure if you're going on a trip or whatever you can hit the download it'll let you how much is that so you can do i looked you can do um like a pre i think it's for what a single account it's like 12 or if you want to pay for a year it's like 10 bucks a month which i'm not too bad um if you have a family account where like each people in your household, you don't have a different YouTube account, then it ends up being like $23 a month, but that's for up to five accounts.

Everyone just uses mine. So that's, we could just get by with the one. So I'm like, yeah, 10 bucks a month. That's probably worth doing. And then YouTube,

what's YouTube TV would be considerably more expensive. Yeah. I think that's like 70-something a month because now you're just talking cable, you know. Yeah. It's not TV. On the computer, you just use Adblock. You put Adblock in your browser, you never see ads, which is great,

but on the Roku, you can't get around it. Right. So do you use a Roku or do you use your smart TV? No, I use a Roku. Like every smart TV I've ever had, they're so slow. They're bad. They're terrible. And I think Rokus are, especially for $30,

I think Rokus are pretty damn good, actually. Yeah, for sure. Okay. What about can? Do you have a can over there? I do, yes. I've got a bottle. I don't know if you noticed that.

Oh, I didn't know if that was just for show or if that was the real deal. This is for popping tops. Wow. Getting saucy on the podcast tonight. I'm not sure how good this Cherry Bubbly is going to be because it was hot in the garage. You know, I like a piping hot sparkling water. I'm having a Shiner Bock. I think it enhances the flavor, the warmth.

It lets your taste buds absorb it more. It is. Like, you don't want the cold getting in the way of the flavor town, you know, like this mass flavor town. There is nothing getting in the way here. Same way with my beer. I like them piss warm, although this Shiner Bock is cold. So how did you decide on the Shiner Bock tonight? shiner bach is cold so how'd you decide on the shiner bach tonight well tonight specifically i went to the my downstairs fridge and this was like this or um

i don't know it's like stevia or something make a sweet and pop uh you know artificial sweet and drink and i'm like that didn't look good to me and i didn't want to walk upstairs to go to that so so by default. But the broader reason of Shiner Bock is I've been on a bit of a Shiner Bock kick lately. I don't know. Have you? One of the bars I went to had it on tap, and then I've just been, I'm like, you know what? I guess I like that better than what I thought I liked it. It's a tasty brew.

It's one that is fairly easy to find in the Midwest as far as craft beers go. Shiner Bock is Austin, Texas, isn't it? I think so. Something Texas. Yeah. It's tasty, though. What do you rate your piss warm? Cherry is always really good.

Actually, you know what? This isn't cherry. It's raspberry. I don't know why I kept saying cherry. Yeah, raspberry. Samsonite. I was way off. I know we've had...

I think we've had this before. Haven't we had raspberry bubbly? I think we popped a little raspberry bubbly before. I'm really between a three and a half and a four on this. Maybe because it's so warm, I'm confused on what way to rate it right now. Maybe I'll go three and a half. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the past that number was slightly different but i'm gonna go three and a half today i'm gonna go four on the shiner bach it's just tasty as tasty as all get out it's real

classic brew i uh i see you put this in there i um but you said concert did you also go to a concert this weekend no you've been a bit of a concert. Did you also go to a concert this weekend? No, you've been a bit of a concert guy, though. I am kind of a concert. You know, everyone knows I've been a record guy for a long time, but this year in particular, it seems like I'm turning into a bit of a concert guy. Well, that's really part of being a record guy

is you have to be a concert guy. That's like stage two or three of being a record guy. There might actually be a correlation there, honestly, I think, because of being a record guy. There might actually be a correlation there, honestly, I think. Because of being a record guy, I do pay a bit more attention to the no attention I was paying to music like the prior 10 years. So now I am more aware and like, not that I'm an enormous music buff, but I've gotten more into something. So that leads me into maybe being more apt to go to a concert but i do just talking about the concerts and the different things that we've both been to over recently i do just enjoy the experience oh yeah regardless of the the

entertainment almost like it's just uh i do value the experience more now maybe than I have in the past, actually. Yeah, if you can go and just not have a care in the world for a few hours or that whole night. That's what it is. It's a pretty damn good feeling. That's actually a really good, that's what it is. That's right. That is right. I never thought of it like that. It's as much of a vacation as you can get without really having to go too far, you know?

Yeah, that's what it is it's like a little half it's like a half you know three hours of just like uh checked out from everything else you know not looking at my phone not doing anything with kids which i love my kids but like and the people closest to you usually know that you're there too so they intentionally know like well we can't bug you you're writing something fun whereas like things, people might just not even be aware and they could still bug you. So, but okay. It looked like you got pretty good seats. So how were the seats?

Who, who'd you see all that? It was, so it was in US Bank Stadium, which I've never been to a concert there. Have you? I've not, I've been to several Vikings games, but I've never, that's where the Vikings play in Minneapolis. I've been to several Vikings games. I've never been to a concert there before. A super cool building. Yes. You know, an awesome building. Cause you've been to a game, haven't you there in Minneapolis. I've been to several Vikings games. I've never been to a concert there before. A super cool building, you know, an awesome building.

Because you've been to a game, haven't you there? Yeah, I've been to a Vikings game there. And just like, it was sold out. So there's like 70,000 people in this building, which is just like, is just, you know, even when you've done it before. Let me put this into perspective for people. That's like over two Aberdeens.

It's almost three Aberdeens, actually. All in one building. Yeah, and we were on the floor, and we were actually in the very first row of seats. The only people in front of us was the pit, basically. So in the way they had the stage, they had two parts of the stage that came out very far. So if the band members would come to the front of the stage that came out very far so when if the band members would come

like to the front of the stage they were very close to us when they came to that front part you know like the only people in front of us were the people standing there at the stage like you know whatever it is that people do holding up their signs and stuff like that actually what everyone does now i know after seeing this the last few years, everyone just insists on trying to get the musical artists to take their phone and take a selfie video. I'm like, everyone tries so hard for that. I'm like, stop doing that.

That's annoying. That guy doesn't want to be up there constantly having phones stuck out at him. He's there to play songs, not to play phone games for you. So it was a Luke Combs concert. And going into it, I'm not – so these were really awesome seats, I would say. We got there, got to the bottom, looked up. I'm like, wow, some of those people are so far away right now. I'm like –

I can't even make out if those are people or just shapes up there. It is wild how far away right now. I'm like, I can't even make out if those are people or just shapes up there. It is wild how far away. It was really awesome seats. We actually, I won't get into the specifics of it, but we didn't pay for them. We got the tickets for free, so that part was really cool. The tickets would have been way more money than I would have spent on

basically any tickets, but the experience was super cool. Being that close was cool. I'm not a huge Lukeke combs fan but i like him a lot more after going to the concert i'll tell you that he put on a good a really good show and it was funny came out in a vikings hat right right at the beginning and wore that all concert really getting the crowd going yeah towards the end uh he threw on an old randy moss jersey and every member of the band put on a Vikings jersey, and they came out for their encore like that.

And, like, they played Purple Rain, and they did. At this point, everyone in Minnesota just got into a coma because it's just overload. They did the Vikings drum where they go, do, do, skull, and then everyone yells skull, you know, and it goes, do. And Luke Combsmes was beating he was the one beating the drums and i'm like i'm not even personally an enormous vikings fan but i'm

around the culture a lot and it was just at the time it was very that stuff was just uh was super cool and really good performer uh there was like four openers and one of them is i think it's laney wilson who people went nuts for her she must be on the come up big time she was on Yellowstone okay like the most I think the most recent season and I still haven't watched Yellowstone yet so I right but people go nuts for Yellowstone and like they oh yeah totally especially around this part of the country yeah they people people loved her and love her message and like I could like after could, like, after seeing that, I'm like, oh, this person is probably going to be considerably more famous than they are right now really soon is what I took away from that.

But Luke Combs is, I didn't realize how big of a name or draw he is. Because Luke Combs is actually just, like, right on the edge of the country. Because I like country music but i like certain country music and he is just off i guess i would say he's just like he's parallel like just a bit off of what what i listen to typically you know like it's so so i like it it's just not really my perfect cup of tea but in a concert setting it's awesome and okay so the concert was like what time did it all get done then? Like how long of a show was this? It was very long. The other thing I got to give him props

for is that dude stood out on the stage signing autographs. We eventually just, we were watching cause there was stuff going, you know, it was just people throw, it was just a spectacle and we're really close. He out there we eventually just left because he was still he signed autographs for probably i don't know how long like at least an hour wow yeah after the guy at that level yeah yeah so and just watching that i'm like oh that's uh that is cool like that is cool to see uh the other particular note i had is we're down on the we came in went all the way down to our seats and some of the openers it's in between openers and we're killing time. And we're like, let's walk

back up, you know, to the mid level and just check out the different shops and stuff up there. Like through the concourse. Yeah. And from the ground floor to that middle concourse is a hike up the stairs. And I had underestimated it coming down the stairs just the hike that it is when we got up to the top uh both of us my wife being pregnant and me just being I guess out of shape like halfway up I was like holy crap this is a workout and uh we went the only other time we went up back up was when left. And same way, I was like, my legs were burning going up. And it's such deep steps, that each step you're taking such a broad step. And I'm like, wow, that should not be that hard.

You said, don't worry, honey, I'm going home and I'm going to start a bridge block and really enhance my aerobic activity. I thought I was actually kind of feeling like I am in decent shape, relatively speaking. And after I did that, I'm like, nope, I guess not. It's not there today. Yeah. Did you stay at the same hotel? No.

We always said, oh, you did a different one this time. We stayed in some fancy hotel that was way too much money. Downtown, I'm assuming? Yeah, it was downtown. It was close. We walked to US Bank Stadium. Oh, okay. That's tough to beat then. Yeah, which that's fun too. That's part of the experience

to me. Oh, yes, for sure. You know, we walked to a bar out to eat, then we walked back, we walked to US Bank Stadium, and it's really nice out at rain. It was a little rainy, but it was cool. Yeah. Cool beans.

That's it. Have you ever heard Luke Combs before? I've just heard the name. I bet if I went on Spotify, I mean, I'm sure if I clicked on one of his top three songs, I've probably heard it before. He's got a cover right now of Fast Car. That's really popular, I think. Yeah.

I'm sure I've probably caught one of his songs at some point here. Yeah. I think a good dude though. That'd be my takeaway on that was pretty good. Dude. Riley green, I think was one of the other openers that people really seem to know him. I recognize a couple of songs,

but I don't, I don't know him. That's it. That's it for concert news until maybe next week if i go to another concert now that i'm a concert guy yeah got that street going i keep thinking you know i'm kind of in a area that actually has concerts now i keep waiting for something to pop up for me but still a little still too many country things yeah which is common around here i see which is really common t swift is coming to us bank stadium, which that's probably the hardest ticket

in town to get. I'm sure those tickets are a thousand a pop if you're lucky. And then Metallica and Pantera are coming soon too. Taylor Swift played in Aberdeen at the Brown County Fair. I know, isn't that nuts? That's kind of crazy. It was probably over 10 years ago, wasn't it?

Yeah. It was probably over 10 years ago. That used it? Yeah. It was probably quite, yeah. That is funny. That used to be a real hot spot for people on the come up, though, wasn't it? Yeah. They, at times, do a good job of catching people at the right time. This year, they got Lil Jon. I'd say, is there ever a wrong time to catch Lil Jon?

No, not a chance. I would say, yeah. It's really good to know uh actually in other aberdeen news this might be relevant for all of our people i i you know we have people coming in in july for the meet left hardly busy classic what are we july 22nd 60 ish days out 66 days out 66 days out a little public service announcement i think we should get this out there and i don't know if you're aware of this yet tanner but i believe the world famous silver dollar bar has closed or has changed ownership oh it's closed actually closed yeah they had their last uh

last hurrah yeah i heard maybe they're going to take the liquor i heard maybe he bought it to get the liquor license or something and i don't know what they're going to do with that building but yeah they're Aberdeen is with Sons a strip club now there is no more remaining strip clubs at one point they had two then they had one now they got zero I mean if that's not small town America dying then I don't know what is and if you go farther back and be like prior are you know the start of my Aberdeen history there was, and I went to both. I did. Not me. If someone was into that sort of thing, maybe they would have went to both.

Sort of thing in my bag, baby. But prior to us, there was at one point, like 30-ish years ago, there was like four open strip clubs simultaneously in Aberdeen. Seriously? Yeah. Really? Yes. open strip club simultaneously. Seriously?

Yeah. Really? Yes. You should ask, ask some older Aberdeen natives. There's, I can't, I can't name them all.

I have coach just know the Cove and the dollar, but there was others. There was like downtown on main where a couple of those other bars are one or two of those was also, were also strip clubs. Really? Yep. I think at one point in time, this might be accurate. There was four strip clubs in town out think at one point in time this might be accurate there was

four strip clubs in town out at once that is shocking i had no idea i wonder if the strip club is going the way of the mall you know like yes or also because people just get it online it's just only fans has ruined the strip club industry. Right, right. The top 1% of earners make 98% of the income. Really, though, what does that say if the town used to, I mean, be it funny as it may, the town used to support four strip clubs. It went to two. It went to one.

Now, like, apparently the customers have chosen that one is not necessary. Yeah, I don't know what, yeah, that seems to be in person, in person. Connections are just dying, I guess.

In person relationships just don't work anymore. Wow. Well, okay. I just wanted to make sure people had that off their itinerary. So that no one was caught off guard when they touched down in on july 21st yeah it's uh no it's not open they had like their final night you know and i don't know maybe the rumors i heard are wrong and it is going to reopen at some point in time but i've heard it will not come back open

that wouldn't surprise me i i would not doubt for a second that someone wanted the liquor license and toss the business to the side. Yeah. Oh, that was the dollar. Yeah, I didn't know that that's what the dollar was. I figured you wouldn't know if I just put dollar on the list of what I was talking about. If you would have put the dollar, I would have known.

That's why I was very careful with my wording there. I was like, dollar? What's dollar going to be? Yeah, that did catch me off guard. Do we have time for an ad here? Yeah, let's do it. Should I start booting people and get our guests ready? Yeah, is he waiting yet for us?

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one of the first bars we ever bought in the gym, and the one brand of bar we own the most of for sure. For sure. So you can't go wrong with a Texas Power Bar. One last bit, quick bit of a follow-up. Big Nathan mentioned that Laney Wilson has a dump truck. Laney Wilson has a dump truck. I had to actually, while you were talking, type that in.

Maybe in a way that you don't normally quite see. There's something different there. I'm not sure how to describe it. Yeah, I actually had to type it in, and then I said, oh, she pops up in my Instagram discover page. Now I know what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That may be part of her growing popularity, possibly. All right. We better let our guests in all right big bryce in the house allow him to start video i'm going to admit him right now should be coming in any minute here hey big bryce how's it going oh uh i think i got it muted here let's go okay it was telling me i was not allowed to unmute myself so i apologize hello how are you good how's it going i i'm tanner and i'm tommy bryce hello hello to both of you. Good to meet you. What are you drinking there? I've got a little bit of whiskey.

Okay. Because it's later in the evening here. It's time to wind down and relax. And I'm looking forward to a nice chat. Absolutely. Like 20% of our podcast each week is just us talking about what we're drinking. So it fits in great. And we are we

are recording by the way we'll just i don't want to say a bunch of cool fun stuff and miss it be recording so we'll we'll just catch everything right away so what uh what is your whiskey there that you're going to it's a it's a suntory toki whiskey it's a japanese scotch i guess you can't call it a scotch because it's not from scot but it's a Japanese scotch like whiskey. Tanner, do you know instantly what he's talking about when he says that? Obviously I'm of Scottish heritage. So, and I, I almost like whiskey, you know, I've for years been trying to make myself think that I like whiskey. I haven't gotten there yet, but I figured if I keep trying eventually I'll, I'll have to like it. Well, unless, unless this is like too much heresy

because it's not Scottish so it's a good place to start maybe all right I'll keep it in mind I'm drinking a Shiner Bach are you a beer guy yourself at all or more of a whiskey guy yeah love beer there's probably some good local Calgary brews I would imagine I think there's over a hundred breweries in calgary it's like our second biggest industry next to i don't know being cowboys or something but yeah there's an absolutely immense amount of breweries here it's wild you do certainly have the cowboy look to you don't you i do do i that was gonna be our first question

is when did you become a cowboy it must be 2012 i think right when i moved here it's just you know it was like more of a calling than anything really yeah you so you are a you we're from south dakota we say western northeast south dakota but it's really the we're close to north dakota close to the north dakota close to the minnesota border so we're not too far i i don't think you're a you're a canadian native but not calgary right that's not where you grew up yeah yeah i grew up in uh in saskatchewan which is just one province to the east a lot flatter a lot flatter there saskatchewan that would be straight north of us isn't it tommy or am i am i off on that so isn't it yeah that's about right i mean winnipeg is like straight north of us okay so we're yeah saskatchewan is just slightly west of that but

so when you say a lot flatter that is like where where where we live that is what it's like here so yeah calgary is more of uh what is calgary like i know it's a large city but what i wondered is uh would you compare it to like if you compared it to a U.S. city is it does it feel like Denver in the in some ways or would that uh not be an accurate comparison I've never been to Denver but from what I know of Denver I would say that's probably a pretty apt comparison okay yeah it seems like kind of a cool cool city is that right or not I love it yeah i love it i you know immediately found a bunch of people that lifted that i connected with and like fell into a big community and have been able to like kind of compound on that and grow it and just like

kind of found home when i moved here so i'm a big calgary stan as you well might imagine yeah so as a Canadian um and a average strength strength sport uh participant and maybe enthusiast yourself uh do you follow world's strongest man at all and if you do were you rooting for Mitch Hooper this year I don't follow it closely but I was stoked to see a Canadian on the podium. I follow it closely enough that there's enough sort of, you know, in the periphery. And yeah, I mean, generally speaking, people were very stoked to see a Canadian at the top of the podium. You know, we've had JF Caron and a couple other guys kind of in the mix over the years. But this might be. I think it's the first Canadian.

Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. over the years, but this might be. I think it's the first Canadian. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, so I mean, that's definitely cool to see that happen for sure. Yeah, right on. If, this is like a weird hypothetical question. Okay. If the Canadian government, because we know you're also a music guy,

so this kind of ties into, you're also a bit of a lifting guy. Most people are probably aware of that too so yeah think of a alternative future maybe a dystopian future where the Canadian government only allowed its citizens to either listen to music or lift weights which would you choose that's like that that would gut me but I think i would honestly i think i'd have to choose lifting it would be a terrible listen to another song alive but i think i think i need lifting more than i need music although it's a pretty close second tommy what do you what would you do um

that's a hard question i mean i feel bad now actually for having answered that yeah that's really tough because you could say well technically i could do some type of other act you know physical activity or right so like maybe you could maybe that's a way to get around it but i i mean if it would if it was music or like no physical activity i'd definitely have to take you know lifting physical activity it's health issues that have, you know, lifting physical activity. It's health issues that have, or mental health issues with me in the case of music at, you know, possibly though too. So it's, it still is a, that is, is a tricky, tricky thought, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Not a, not a future I'd like to live in. I don't think having to choose one or the

other. Yeah. What, what would you describe your music taste as? Like, what are you into? Oh man. Um, or can't you put pretty much everything except like modern pop country. Like I enjoy a lot of electronic music. I enjoy a lot of like bluegrass music, a lot of really aggressive, intense metal music and hardcore and post hardcore and like R and B and hip hop and rock and like Katy Perry and Dua Lipa's, uh, one of her recent albums is an absolute banger. Like I love a lot, a lot of music and a very wide variety of, of genres, but I can't get behind like modern pop country. It just has always just been like nails on the chalkboard to me. Yeah. So I've got one for you.

I listened to, I listened to country just outside of pop. We actually were just talking about this earlier. So it was actually a Saskatchewan native that I'm pretty into from Saskatoon. Colter wall. Have you ever heard the name? Colter wall. Yeah.

Colter. Do you like Colter wall? Love that heard the name colter wall yeah colter what do you like colter wall love that stuff yeah that's that's my jam yeah yeah yeah yeah that's good stuff but that's not pop country no i wouldn't consider it that although i think he's he's like starting to gain a lot of success and notoriety and stuff but I wouldn't consider it like that genre of kind of like really produced and kind of packaged and formulaic, like dog car pickup truck kind of just, although he might hit on some of those things. I agree. You're right. And it's funny though, cause my wife and I talk about this. She's a big Zach Bryan fan. Uh, and he's become extremely, he's become a lot more popular or in the past it was, she's a Steel Drivers fan. It's Chris Stapleton is the guy that was the Steel Drivers. It was a little more

niche when he was the Steel Drivers. It was very bluegrass and stuff. And now it's, now he's like country music's biggest star. And my thought on this, like with some of these country music singers, we like to like them when they're not popular it's like i don't know you think you're cool or something i don't feel like that's what i think but that's almost part of it and maybe you think this across other genres too but like uh a coulter wall it's it's like the batman thing actually you either die a hero or you uh live long enough to see yourself become the villain kind of where it's like you become chris stapleton then and all of a sudden it's like

nah i don't know if i like chris stapleton anymore well it's like but it's like the thing in music forever it's you know once you know you're you're the the up-and-coming band and then once you make it you're a sellout you know and then that's the problem is now you're a sellout yeah i think there's there's like kind of two paths that a lot of a lot of bands will take once they gain that level of of popularity and it's kind of either like either way you go like you're not making everybody happy because it's just not possible but bands will like completely reinvent their sound and go do whatever they want whatever brings them you know artistic fulfillment and and you know sort of satisfies that creative itch and people will be like oh

they changed like i like their older stuff better they They suck now. Or they'll just like, keep making the same record over and over again, because they think that's like what people want. And some people will be stoked either way. And some people will be really mad either way. So you kind of can't win as far as I can tell. I think that is the good takeaway is you're kind of, somebody's not going to like it no matter what yeah yeah okay so as a canadian uh ipf lifter have you been uh you know with what's gone on over the last two or three years with us apl ipf stuff like that do you care at all or have you just been you know have the canadian ipf lifters up there been just been uh sitting back and laughing and thinking ah i love

our lack of drama here in in regards to this or like what's your take on that yeah i mean we have all kinds of drama of our own but i mean it's hard not to like to see that and and probably like have some kind of opinion but i think like at the end of the, that's kind of the historic path that a lot of these federations have taken over the years. And it just like, it often seems to be around drug testing and drug testing practices. And I think, you know, looking back at the federations and the way they've fractured to even form like what we have as the IPF now, it was one of those split off things. And I think my overall take on it is just that I,

I wish there was a way we could get like more together instead of constantly seeing things fracture off and everybody needing to go their own direction with things. Because I think if there's any, you know, the, the big IPF thing and personally, I think it's kind of a pipe dream, but the, the, the Olympic dream, um, you know, if, if there is any merit to that, it's probably being recognized by, uh, you know, national sporting associations and things like that. So that there's funding for lifters, uh, competing at nationals and above and that kind of thing. And there's, there's more money in the sport coming from government, government funding. And I think if there's any way to like you know nudge things towards that more it's probably being more unified as opposed

to being more fractured and and having you know 15 different federations kind of thing so it's like the old saying goes you can never have enough federations more federations is always the answer. That old kidder. It's just like that. That's the one thing that's been holding the sport back, I think, is a lack of enough. It's too united. It needs to be more fractured to give people some more spice, you know? Yeah.

Like, no, I like a deadlift bar, some drugs, not too much, a medium amount of drugs. Just the right amount. But we need a two-hour weigh-in. All the other guys did a 24-hour. Let's make a two-hour weigh-in now. We've got to figure more ways to segment this. Yeah.

So you've done a whole bunch of meets. Like if you look on your open powerlifting history, there's a long history there. And I didn't count it, but it seems like it's almost somewhat evenly split between raw and single ply. Maybe that's off a little bit, but, um,

where does your, uh, allegiance lie there? Like, do you have a preference or this podcast is just picking sides. We're just trying to really label you. We need some labels here. We want to be able to really

like uh yeah like pin you down on stuff and yeah yeah make it be device we're really looking for those instagram uh real clips so we can uh yeah i mean it all comes down to there not being enough federations the mass synopsis there's no room for shades of gray everything is black and white so we need to get this figured out um so i did like a couple years of equipped uh probably two years worth of meets or something like that um and i don't know if i have one that like i would prefer as sort of like an overall thing i think equipped is there's something about the added level of intensity and and focus and like the sort of like razor's edge room for error and stuff like that that i find incredibly appealing and very very stimulating

but there's also something about rob being and especially with like where i'm at in my life right now being a little more able to fit in and around things like, you know, work and home life and that kind of stuff. I think the equipped stuff, one of the things that kind of eventually drove me away or, you know, at least made the decision easier for me to move away from it was that it just, you know, it was like four and a half hours. At least one of my sessions per week was four and a half hours, you know, getting in and out of the equipment and warming up to the weights that are like, you know, 120, 130% or whatever the hell of my, of my raw max needing, you know, a crew of five spotters, potentially having somebody come in to wrap your knees for you.

And it's just, it's a lot, it's physically and mentally draining as hell. And, uh, I mean, yeah, it's a hell of a lot of fun, but I think I need to be in a place where I have like that much to give. I need to be able to like tilt the seesaw of, of quote unquote balance enough towards lifting to be able to, to give that the attention it deserves. Yeah yeah so if you're single and don't have a job and stuff like that equipped lifting might come a little bit easier I mean I made it work yeah in in my situation then but I think it uh yeah it's it's a lot it's a lot yeah how much uh how much do you get out of a single ply dead out of single ply dead lifting

versus your raw deadlift when you're wearing this? So the deadlift suit, I think I was, I think I was pretty good in the deadlift suit. Like I think as compared to probably your average, I think I got maybe a little more out of it. Um, and I would guess that, you know, I got somewhere in the neighborhood of like five to 10%, maybe. Yeah. Uh, like my best raw pole is, you know, three 85, my best equipped is 400. So like somewhere in that neighborhood, uh, of, you know, about 20 kilos on a 400 kind of deal. Yeah. It's significant. Uh, you know, whereas, you know, the common phrase that someone that maybe just dabbles in it a little bit might say is like,

Oh, the, you know, the bench shirt, the squat suit that adds a lot, but the deadlift, uh, suit, there wasn't much there for me, you know, like it. Um, so for you and you, you pull sumo, correct? Like, so maybe there's, I assume that there's more. Yeah. We actually, I don't know if you're aware, but, uh, we consider everything that's not a Jefferson deadlift cheating. So we throw traditional right in there with sumo i appreciate that elevated level of yeah we get sick of people getting getting in the weeds on sumo versus conventional and we kind of think we're like s tier uh right at jefferson deadlifting all right yeah no i like that have you ever done

a jefferson deadlift i don't know if i ever have on purpose anyways. In case you didn't know, we are the unofficial, we keep the record record. We keep the record book for the world records of the Jefferson deadlift. So we are, we are the record keepers. Top, top 10 to hit top 10. Now I think the bottom of top 10 is around like seven 20. You'd have to pull like about a seven 20 to break the top 10. If that would ever be something that interests you and are there weight classes within this record no weight classes in the jefferson jungle yeah there's yeah it's just like the jungle there's no weight classes here okay all right interesting well i'll squirrel that away in the back of my head

real spicy what's the world record just so he has something to be thinking about over there? That's deadliest lift. We've had him on the podcast now. Mark Rosenberg. He now has, I think it's 930 pounds. Oh, my God. That's wild. There's two over 900 now, maybe.

It's weird, though. Some people it comes some people would maybe say they can Jefferson some people can Jefferson deadlift more than they can conventional or sumo actually. So kind of odd. Whereas some people it's very awkward and

uncomfortable for. I mean it just it looks awkward. You were getting a lot of carryover out of the deadlift suit. Maybe you get even more carryover if you do some jefferson deadlifts something is there is there a world record for equipped jeff we know but i don't think we would put it in the record book yeah it's just it's just the lift is the only thing we care about yeah all right all right there's no equipment requirements in this jungle either. Actually, my brain's like confused that that's never came up before. I'm kind of shocked, actually. Yeah. Maybe because of the difficulty of getting in that sort of position with

it's going to feel bad. What if you could, what if you don't know it and it's naturally easier for you and you could just go walk in right now and pull 900 Jefferson deadlift, would you do it? I mean, I'll tell you a really quick story. My business partner and I were driving to the place that's now our gym. And one of the first times we ever went there, we saw this like beat up minivan in front of us with just the worst marketing for some home business thing. And I don't even know what the business name was, but in big quotes, it just said on the back windshield, if you never try, then you never know. And that's just that's always stuck with me.

So when I get faced with questions like this, it's like, well, you know, if you never try, then you never know. That's true. Terrible marketing. Is the sport or maybe the skill, maybe it's the skill of powerlifting. Is it simple or complex i think i'm gonna i'm gonna uh probably like dodge this a little by saying both yeah well i think i bring it up because i think i've heard i've heard you say something before about it i can't remember exactly what i just remember that it was particularly interesting. So I just wanted to get your take on that again. I feel like I probably

quoted that. Have you guys seen that documentary, um, power unlimited? Absolutely. We've done a full review of power unlimited with a silent Mike and Jim McD. We did a full, uh, deep dive on power unlimited. Actually Unlimited. Actually, the DVD plays on repeat in Massanomics Gym. And I think the producer, the guy that was behind it, he actually reached out to me after we did our podcast review of it. And he was defending anything that we said. You know, overall, we had a lot of good things to say about it. But he had some good, you know know just enlightened me a little bit uh actually actually uh not to interrupt too

but i think they're working on it he's they're working on another one oh yeah nice very interesting yeah no i i grew up like watching that just over and over on on youtube and when i say i grew up i mean like starting power lifting basically, but that was, you know, there weren't a whole lot of resources or like YouTube for powerlifters and stuff like that back then. And I just remember watching that over and over and over again, but there was a quote and I can't remember who it was. Um, but I think they said that powerlifting is like simple in form, but complex in execution or something like that and that always stuck with me right because you think about like the three lifts and it's like

okay you just like sit down and stand up but as soon as you get into the execution and the technique and the different leverages for different body types and strengths and weaknesses and the the nuance of bar position and you know some people's tendency to do just completely unnatural seeming things with their stance um or you know toe angle and that kind of stuff it really does begin to layer on a lot of complexity so yeah i mean you can look at it and say it's it's just a squat like you know the karwoski mentality of like it's just ballast you ride it down and ride it back up can you just don't fuck up for 10 seconds or whatever? But I think, yeah, like there's, there's elements of both. And I think at times probably very worthwhile to think about one, think about it one way over

the other, right? Like if you're in training and you're trying to like dissect things and pick things apart, then, okay, yes, yes it's complex we break it down to its different components and discuss all the different options and ways of moving and all that kind of stuff but you know if you're about to go get under a pr like you're just squatting you just go squat that's it like you can't be you can't be too heady about it at that point i think yeah that's that's that makes sense and speaking speaking of powerlifting documentaries, The Powerlifter, which I particularly enjoy, maybe that's like three years old by now. I'm not sure how old, a couple years old or something like that by now.

And that's on your YouTube channel, I'm pretty sure. And I just wondered, I've seen it. I watched it here recently actually in preparation for this, and I actually forgot how much I enjoyed it until watching it again. So shout out to that. Anyone listening that hasn't seen it, is it Calgary Barbell? Is that the YouTube channel? Check it out.

It'll be one of the first videos that shows up if you look at top videos or whatever. It's called The Powerlifter. And it is awesome, but I don't really know any of the back story of it. I just wondered, you know, a few things, anything you could say about it would be interesting, but like, what led to you guys making that, who made that? Um, and then follow up to that, like the process of that, was it Don? I mean, was it, what did you, did it end up being like what you expected going into it or what was the workload like on something like that? end up being like what you expected going into it or what was the workload like on something like that so it was a result of this like talus has this sort of like creative funding initiative

that they do every so often um and they essentially put up a number of grants for i mean that year was documentaries i think they've done music videos depending on you know sort of what mood they're in maybe who knows how much money they need to write off it's a telecom communications company that is one of the few that monopolizes cell service here in canada and you can get your internet from them or like one other company but they yeah i guess they like fund creatives. It was tell us, I can't remember the name of it. Anyways. So my business partner, Dylan is a sort of like videographer extraordinaire. That's responsible for anything you've ever seen me in where I look cool. That's his, that's his doing, not mine. So we had been, you know, running the YouTube channel for a number of years. And

he was like, I think with the little bit of like YouTube following we have and, you know, running the YouTube channel for a number of years. And he was like, I think with the little bit of like YouTube following we have and, you know, social media reach, like there's a, there's a, at least one project gets funded as a result of popular vote. And he's like, so if we just like hammer them with votes and get everyone we know to, you know, try to shout this out so we can get that funding and make this thing like we can do it. And the next year, they no longer took a public vote. Because you guys ran away. They were like, wait a second, what's going on here with this?

I'm not sure if it was that or our reluctance to kind of do things the way they wanted us to. And that kind of leads into the next part of the question, which was like who did that and how it kind of came together. And Dylan and I's creative process has always just been he and I, right? Like I write scripts and storyboard and whatever else might need to be done for any video we do. And we collaborate pretty heavily on all that stuff. And then he, you know, films colors does all the music does all the audio

engineering does all the anything else that needs to happen before it's like shipped and uploaded whatever that's all Dylan and the expectation that Telus had was that we were going to use this money that they gave us to fund a team to film and to rent stuff and to have somebody score the thing and all this other stuff. And we were just like, we don't need those people. I think what we'll do is use your money to buy us equipment that we can keep. And I, they were like, eh, it's not really how we want you to do it. And then you're like, come up with a budget and stuff. And we're like, well, it and you know like come up with a budget and stuff and we're like well that's what we're gonna do um uh so i mean we did it the way that we normally do it we were lucky enough to work with a kind of like mentor who was you know very legitimately planted in the film industry locally

uh who was kind of like here's the process, you know, the way you have to write these proposals to submit them and blah, blah, blah. And there was a lot more kind of groundwork to that than any other project we had done previously, we needed to do more scripting and more storyboarding and at least like flesh out all of the different situations that we wanted to try to capture, and then figure out how we were going to try to get them and how they were going to fit and you know all that kind of stuff so it was like for us it was kind of like a really really big beefy youtube video where we had a budget to kind of like travel and go see my parents and you know talk to the guy who kind of got me into power lifting way back in the day and have Dylan out to cover a meet and upgrade our

equipment and make things look better and put a boatload of time into it so yeah it was uh it was pretty cool to be able to do something like that I think we'd like to be able to do something like that again at some point yeah did it feel rewarding then you know the um granted it's a little different as a grant project you know that's just that's a sweet deal and stuff but you obviously end up with a lot of time into it and even like did you get out of it what you feel like you would hope to get out of it or maybe that's not in maybe you didn't have certain expectations in that way yeah i mean i don't i don't really know if we knew what we were going to get out of it we just knew we wanted to do it yeah you know we we just thought like okay i think we have like a cool story we can tell, you know, I think we're good enough at telling stories that we can make

something really cool. It's going to, people are going to see and be like, well, shit, what is, what is powerlifting? I want to do that. Like, this seems awesome. And I think I've had enough like conversations with people who, you know, saw that and maybe kind of got interested in, in powerlifting because of that, or that was the thing that put them over the edge to sign up for their first competition or whatever so I would say in that sense like absolutely yeah we got what we wanted out of it and I think for us it's also just like a compulsion to do creative stuff like that and to make things and to film and try to tell stories or jokes or whatever so scratching that itch is also a big part of it, I think. So when they run the grant process for the music video concept, you guys will get in on

that then also. We might be blacklisted from ever entering one of those things again, honestly, I don't know. But yeah, I think actually Dylan did not totally jokingly, uh, toss one of those my way and be like, maybe we should enter for this kind of thing at one point. Well, have you guys talked about like a follow-up, you know, a more specific follow-up to the power lifter? We have. Yeah. That's something that we've mulled around. And I think the biggest constraint right now is just, is just time and manpower, right? Like it's the two of us running the company. It's the two of us doing all of the things. You know, we manage other coaches and they help, you know, by coaching their client loads and

we work with them on all that stuff. But in terms of like a lot of the social media and film type stuff that's literally just Dylan and I and now that we have all kinds of like emails to answer and like administrative things to do and accountants to talk to and stuff it's just like I don't know it's hard to hard to carve out the time to to do like another kind of passion project like that but that's one of a couple of things that we've thought of to kind of I don't know just just kind of squirrel away in the background and if we can get little bits for it here and there and you know try to piece something together over maybe a longer time frame you're kind of like the band or the music artist now becoming too successful now for you know yeah selling out yeah i'm a seller we you you brought it up and tommy and i

both talked about this a couple time in preparation for this but uh you know your your i say instagram content you know it's probably out on tiktok and stuff too i don't really we have it we don't really actively use it like we should it's a scary place yeah it is a scary place it's tanner's actually downplaying that he's on tiktok 24 hours so we we grew up uh then when i say grow up i mean what you said when you you we're we're all the same age basically i think too i'm uh okay yeah are you 35 or 30 i'm 35 i'm 36 you're 35 tommy's 34 we're all the same age. But, you know, we started Mastodonomics in, say, like 2016. And we grew up through the Instagram era. The Instagram boom of the teens.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And become very comfortable with that over years of using that platform of social media. And then TikTok comes along and does what it does. And you would think before it came along, you'd be like, well, I don't know what could come along that could, you know, overtake this or how it could even be different or anything like that. And then

you go on there and like, it can be so different, oddly, even though now they kind of have become sort of the same thing, but still yet it can be like a way different tone and a way different audience that you're hitting where it's like where are the people from instagram that i know follow that get it quote unquote where are they in tiktok because it feels like a whole bunch of people that uh you might be getting the views or the count or stuff like that but it's just a lot of people that have a different level of education or experience with some of the stuff all that to said, the comment I want to make is how good, especially as of late, I don't know if you, this is obviously intentional and focused on it,

but how good your short form video content has been like an Instagram reel, how fun that is now. And like what, I mean, you probably kind of talked about it with the documentary, how you and Dylan work through that, but like how focused of an effort is that? Like, are you guys coming in on Monday and you're like all right here's our schedule for you know are you scheduling this out are you what's it look like so maybe a little less organized than than say scheduling things out yeah uh definitely like I

would say most days of the week we're filming writing editing stuff for that content I mean we've always been like I said like very driven to just like do creative stuff and make content and you know YouTube was that outlet for a long long time and then it kind of just slowly petered out and didn't seem to be getting that same kind of engagement or people didn't seem to be as interested in the the the formula that we were using or the way we were doing things so it was probably a period of of maybe a year or a year and a half where we tried doing some vlogs and we tried doing live streams and we were just trying to figure out like you know what are people interacting with where we can like get at people and, you know, spread the good word

of powerlifting kind of thing. Uh, and it, it got to a point where I can't even remember. I was just like, I think like, I think short form stuff is the way, like, I think we just need to double down on this stuff. And we had done like a run of a week or two of it at one point. Um, and it went extremely well. We did a couple of little shorts and they got shared all over the place. And we got a whole bunch of feedback and a whole bunch of people, you know, stoked on what we were saying. And it just is a different way of presenting things, which I think offers certain challenges, especially when you're trying to present like a, an intelligent and sort of like whole thought or any kind of nuance in any way, shape

or form. It's just, it becomes kind of a challenge to like put things together in a way that still fits that format. But yeah, we've really, really doubled down on trying to use that as a way to kind of reach more people and engage with the community and the audience that we have and, and get that stuff out there. So. I would say it's just good. I just really enjoy it. It's just, uh, it's good stuff. I, I like to, it looks like you're kind of getting in the podcast game too, with the one minute podcast. I just saw today.

Yeah. We filmed another one today. Yeah. Be coming out soon. Um, have you talked about publishing that on like as a podcast? Um, I mean, I guess that's maybe a thing, right? Yeah. I think we just feel like it's so silly. Like why would we actually put that on like an actual podcast service? But maybe that's how we, you know, get people to take it a little more seriously. So I think that would be the perfect

way to like that's that's what i like about it any any of the marketing that's also a little silly i think that that uh makes so much sense and granted you're paying for hosting and some stuff like that and you're like it's literally a 60 second podcast but i think sometimes that uh you know people uh like they think there's a level of respect to that where you're like man these guys are really going the extra mile on you know this is they are you know this is published as a podcast yeah they're just they're really doing it they're not like doing what you're expected to do when it comes to podcasts yeah yeah i mean we so oh man we uh when we kind of like reimagined all the things that we wanted to do and kind of

like realized that like, oh, this short form stuff's really something we could invest a lot in. My sort of like drive behind a lot of that was like, I want to be the Miss Frizzle of powerlifting. You know what I mean? Like I want a magic school bus powerlifting content. And she could bench quite a bit in that one meeting. Exactly. That's four reds right yes absolutely yeah she outbenches me i think at this point but um i think we ended up somewhere between like miss frizzle and chris farley a little bit but it's not a bad place to be honestly yeah it's a magic school bus down by the river

i was actually just picturing ch Farley driving the bus and Billy Madison is like, amazing. Yeah. That's, that's too perfect. That's good though. I think it's just working out great.

I don't know. I just, uh, uh, every once in a while I pick, you know, I, I probably am going to,

it's weird, you know, Instagram or all going to, it's weird, you know, Instagram or all the platforms, they stopped showing you stuff. I used to see your stuff more. I don't know what happened to that. And all of a sudden what you're doing must be working in the thought that somehow I'm magically aware of it again. And I agree a hundred percent. Like I, up until maybe, I mean, a month or two ago, I kind of thought you guys had just completely not produced content for a year or two. And then now all of a sudden it's in my feed all the time. And it's like, no, there was never this huge long break. It just disappears.

There wasn't not also, like I said, I actually thought it was just done. Like it just disappeared forever for me. Yeah. Yeah. We stumbled through a lot of stuff and tried to like, you know, find different formulations of making the YouTube thing work and longer form content and trying to figure out what people wanted. But, uh, yeah, I think what we've kind of gotten to a place with now is a, is a good place to be and have found like a bit more of an audience for that

creative outlet, which obviously helps with all the business stuff too so so how do you guys deal with it because tanner and i talk about this all the time and we're on such a smaller scale than you when it when it comes to a time investment like we get actually we've never put the amount of effort you we have into like any of the videos that you guys do like yours all look amazing they're super well produced so sleek and just they look great and i mean the content's great too ours is like way more times and then we then we say, Oh my God, I don't know what, you know, like, yeah, we're just way more run and gun. Just, I mean, get it out there, do it. And, um, I mean, even memes all the time, like we had this feeling like, Oh, this is going to be,

this is the one that's just going to go off. And we think it's like, Oh, I can't wait for these memes to come out. They're so hilarious. And then it's just like for whatever reason either they don't hit or instagram decides nah no one needs to see this and it's like the most annoying feeling how do you guys deal with that when you think you got something and then it's just yeah it falls kind of flat for whatever reason the same way everybody else does we're like man what the hell like i thought this was great people did i don't nobody liked it i guess i don't know but you can't you absolutely can't predict that stuff it just seems so hard to try to predict and again that goes back to what we were trying to do with the

youtube and like looking at different analytics and like oh if we get maybe longer watch time then maybe we'll get better you know know, visibility to people. And, and it just like, doesn't seem to make any sense. Cause again, we've had stuff where we've put like a lot of work and a lot of effort and a lot of, you know, editing and cool shots and all this kind of stuff. And then we've had other ones where it's like literally just me standing there saying whatever, and we slap some subtitles on it and like that one blows up so it's just like it doesn't seem to really correlate with like how much work you put in or how cool you as a creator think it is it's just like i don't know whether or not you win the coin toss and it does it just

seems like at the end of the day it's always random which is the most annoying part of the whole thing yeah yeah it's it's interesting to see kind of what the i don't know what the algorithm or whatever like what it likes um but it doesn't seem to be very consistent no yeah as soon as you think you feel like you know what it is then you try and repeat it's like it's like they know if you're trying to repeat something that you feel like it's unsuccessful they're like no exactly nope we can tell this is forced even though it looks polished like we know that you're trying to do what worked before we're not going to let it work yeah yeah that won't work again that's about the only guarantee if you feel like you're starting to get momentum you just know like that that backslide is going to come pretty

soon and i think the like the way that we've kind of been able to overcome that a couple different times with like starting the youtube channel back in the day. And now with the short form stuff is like, just keep it coming. Like that's, I don't know. Dylan showed me some clip of a, I don't know. He was a fitness influencer of some variety. And he actually had a really poignant sort of a bit that he was talking through about how everybody quits in the middle, right? Like people get really, really excited to like start something up and they go all in they go all out or you see people like at the end who are like successful and seem to have like made it and are doing all the cool things but it's that like middle chunk in between those two things where everybody quits

right so if you can just kind of like just keep slogging through and it you know i mean i guess that sort of rings true with a lot of stuff lifting yeah lifting is totally like that it's like yeah you get past the new beginnings you're like oh now we're in the suck now this is like when the work actually has to happen well yeah tommy speaking of our my book report thing not too long ago i read a book called Finish by John Acuff and that's exactly the whole book is built around that premise of everyone's super excited at the beginning you know you see the results at the end but like this middle 80 percent is where everyone gets lost on it and that's the whole you know the built book is his book is just built around this concept of the suck in the middle basically which is why you know this is episode 370 something of the suck in the middle, basically. Which is why, you know, this is episode 370-something of the podcast. So any day now, any day, like, we're going to be figuring out how this goes.

And things are going to be great. Seven and a half years in every single week, we're just, I think we're at the tipping point. It's just right around the corner. It could be any time in the next seven years. I mean, that's how it goes though we have on our youtube channel i think we got up to like the 280th form check friday before we kind of like we're like i don't know if he's doing it anymore man but like yeah i don't know there's something to be said for consistency well it is and you never know like someone finds that one piece of content and we have it all the time like some of the people that are our biggest supporters like oh yeah i

ran across you had an interview with one person or i saw one meme and that was all it took and to this day they're great supporters great followers great fans of everything we do yeah the the parallel to lifting really is there though too as like a submasters guy that's been lifting for a long time and that's been very. Like you'll go through these stages where because of injury life setbacks, uh, just stressors that are hard to control, you know, that you just, you get to this point, like you can have these long stretches of time where you feel like, man, I just will never make progress again. And like, if you just stick with it and you, you know, you're working on it, I've had it numbers of times where I've kind of started to

have that thought creep in. And then like, just by staying consistent, you can, and I mean, making a conscious effort to, to work around it or out of it or whatever, but you can, you can still like, it just takes, uh, not quitting a lot of the times. You can still. It just takes not quitting a lot of the times. Yeah. Yeah, it's, again, a big consistency thing, most things. It's the damn stick-to-itiveness.

We have this special game we like to play with every guest. We actually like to do it, and we just do it with every guest. It's called Underrated Overrated, so it goes back to our theme before where we've got a special. Very divisive. Yeah, yeah. Very divisive. Uh, we have a special, uh, handpicked set of, uh, big Bryce Calgary barbell topics, and it's your job on each one to decide if they're overrated or underrated. The most important thing to, you have your druthers to elaborate as much or as little as you'd like, but the most important thing is you have to remember you can't ride the line. You have to ultimately decide if each one is over or under all right all right you got to commit

pick a side topic one overrated or underrated cassette tapes oh underrated i'm a cassette tape guy i got a bunch of them i think there's a lot of bands uh that i like that do a lot of cool stuff with cassette tapes they They're small and compact and easy to ship. I don't know if they last super well, but I was able to refurbish my dad's old cassette player and I got a cool stereo set up at the gym. So anyways, I like cassette tapes. Underrated. You're also a bit of a record guy too, right? Yeah, I've got a very quickly growing collection that I keep at the gym. What about CDs? Do you like have, you know, CDs have almost, I mean, they've kind of gotten old enough

now that they're somewhat back in a, you know, like doing fall in that same trend that everything is, right? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, compact, it's like CDs are a great medium, I think. yeah absolutely and i mean compact it's like cds are a great medium i think um as long as you don't have them in like a giant book with like 40 pages of them rolling around in the passenger seat of your car oh you mean what and only a select number of you out there will get that everyone did you know like literally nobody didn't have that and then just the front pocket is just 50 burn cds

all smashed together like that yellow brand bird ones and somehow it still plays i don't know how that works bryce bangers there's like a track and a half yeah yeah yeah yeah so i mean you know i have a stack of cds that sit there in their cases or in the disc changer uh and doing it that way is uh is much more civilized and maintains the integrity of them a lot better. I'm not near as big of a, we talked about this too, I'm not as near as big of a music guy as either of you guys are probably. But the physical media, when I got into records, I joke about being a record guy because I'm not that, like I'm relatively speaking not that into music. But the physical media has actually gotten me way more into it than I was before. Yeah, I would say the same thing.

Yeah, okay. I remember going to buy CDs of bands that I had never heard from HMV or whatever equivalent. I don't know if that was HMV or Canadian. I don't think that's in America, no. I've never heard that. Okay. What are the places? I don't think that's in America.

No, I've never heard that. Okay. What are the places? What are the... Oh, I remember when I would always buy CDs, it was like at Sam Goody or was it... Sam Goody. Coast, was that one of them? I can't even remember now.

Sam Goody was one of them for sure, though. That was... Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, but just being able to see the artwork and read the book and read through the lyrics and see all that cool stuff. I love that part.

It makes it so much cooler than down you know than streaming it yeah it's just kind of like a different interaction with it you got to pay attention to it a little more you know right it sound like old man screams at cloud here but i find for me personally like it's so much because i used to buy a lot of cds now just because of convenience, I'm just Spotify. And now you hear, okay, yep, this is a good album. You need to listen to it. But because it's just so easy to have on in the background, music turns into so much more of this background thing. And then you'll listen to a whole album. You're like, oh yeah, there was some good songs I liked on there, but it's just like one album. It just turns into like one big, long song. You don't

even really know, like you used to be like, yeah number three number six number seven and that part's gone too so that's uh been sort of annoying uh lately that i've that i've noticed on my end of listening or you get a bunch of recommendations and you're like okay i'll just add them to my library and you never listen to them because it's just like so easy to be like yeah no absolutely i'll pick that up but if you like if you get a record or a cd or whatever you're like dang i spent money on this i'm gonna listen to as expensive as the media part of it too it's like i put money into this i can't waste it i need to actually listen to it now it feels just so disposable when you have everything in the world that yeah just the the

listening experience goes down okay overrated or underrated calgary the calgary stampede overrated i could you explain it i guess yeah uh it's like the downtown core shuts down and becomes like a giant party everybody breaks out their cowboy boots and cowboy hat that they wear once a year and gets just shithoused for a week and a half straight. And there's like a, a fair basically like a County fair and a rodeo. Um, some people love it. If it's your thing, great. Have fun. But I couldn't care less about it. I, isn't that how like 90% of people with cowboy boots and cowboy hats are those it's like the one time a year special occasion where they probably yeah yeah probably yeah it's a k-mart cowboy yeah uh okay so is there rodeos and stuff then is like uh yeah no it's pretty legit yeah

all right yeah okay but not my thing do you have a cowboy hat and you're somewhere in your closet just in case you go out for the stampede? I don't. I just got a Tilly hat the other day. What's a Tilly hat? It's just a Canadian brand of bucket hat. It's really robust. It's weatherproof.

There's like two people out there listening to the podcast that are like, I got a Tilly, bro. That's just for them. Overrated or underrated megaman underrated love megaman one of my favorite games of all time okay grew up playing megaman x megaman x2 x3 the super nintendo era of megaman x was chef's kiss i was gonna say the same thing like megaman x like that was where it was at it was those games were so damn good and then once you go back to like the original ones it kind of feels like slow motion and primitive compared to those so you're saying like nes were they on were they on regular nintendo prior to that or yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was like a bit a bit of

a different era though but i think like megaman x there were some extra functions and like controls like you could dash mid-air and you could dash which i don't know maybe wasn't even a thing in original megaman but it was just so good and the music the soundtracks those games are like burned in my mind forever love it yeah it's like the pause screen on uh uh 007 golden eye yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of funny memes about that pause screen music though like how did why did they put so much like effort into this pause screen music like they knocked that out of the park yeah i mean they just they just went the extra mile back in the n64 days you know effort into this pause screen music. They knocked that out of the park.

Yeah. I mean, they just went the extra mile back in the N64 days, you know? Okay. Last topic on over-under, and we usually save the most important, the most controversial for last. So overrated or underrated, Pizza Hut. Ooh. Nobody out pizzas the hut.

Maybe underrated I mean I feel like Pizza Hut's not necessarily underrated but I like it like if I'm gonna go and get like crappy pizza and just like you know I want that kind of just like make my gut into a ball of iron just do it

like that's kind of the pizza I'll go for. And I worked at pizza hut for a number of years. I drove delivery for them. Uh, I met a lot of my good friends that, uh, kind of ended up being good buddies with for a long, long time, doing a lot of partying with my twenties and that whole like era of my life through pizza hut. So I gotta get, I gotta get pizza hut props. Tommy, are you a pizza hut? I pizza hut would be very high on my list. If you said we got to order, right. Yeah. If we got to order some chain pizza, pizza hut is in the top three for me for sure.

Are you, are you guys stuff crust fans from pizza hut? I think they kind of pioneered that. Like one piece. I was was gonna say the same thing like stuff crust is one of those things it's like that sounds like such a good idea and then you get one and you're like man that cheese string is solid again like it was melty and gooey and stringy and now it's just that's just a little brick of cheese in there and my tin tin hat theory on uh stuffed crust or maybe any like over the top variation is they find a way to make the rest of the pizza worse i don't know how they're doing it or what they do but they're like we're gonna put the money in the crust so we're gonna yeah we're gonna cut the corners on the actual pizza i'm like

that's like 90 of what i'm buying here is the pizza and you like make that part worse because i mean you gotta so with the stuffed crust you have to hand toss the dough right most of the pan pizzas they like they rise in the pan so the crust is always consistent it's always about the same size shape whatever but with the the stuffed crust you get like a ball of dough if you're if you're working in the back room, at least this is how it used to be. Maybe it's different now, but you had to like knead it and press it and, and, you know, work it out and then have enough extra dough at the end. So you could roll it around the crust and, and pinch it around the, the cheese strings that you would put in it.

So I think what happened was like the inside of the pizza would just end up getting really thin and then any amount of toppings on there and it's just soggy as hell yeah yeah that's why i knew it's not a tin hat theory it's real yeah here's a really good pizza question for you in canada growing up as a kid prior to you working there at younger did you guys have the buttons that had like little stars you got on them and it was based on reading through school and like if you read enough you eventually got a free personal pan pizza oh yes yes we did have those we did yeah yeah that was a wild time yeah okay yes paul i've yeah the booket program that's what it was yeah okay here's another pizza to remember something here's another pizza question for you in canada did you ever have the white sauce for breadsticks

i don't i don't know tanner did you ever have the white sauce i don't think i've ever had that i always kind of i thought the right pizza breadsticks are underrated first of all pizza breadsticks are underrated i would just throw that out but i've only i feel like i've only had the red sauce see i the pizza where i grew up the pizza out there had the white sauce and that seems to be like one of the only pizza huts in the world that had white sauce creamy i don't know what they were putting in your white sauce creamy garlic sauce i've almost never encountered it anywhere else huh i would try it but the breadsticks themselves anywhere else huh i would try it but the breadsticks themselves are legit i would also we used to have this thing and this was one of like the last pizza huts to ever have this like they would do a lunch buffet and you could come in and just like it's all you can eat pizza

and it was amazing but one of the things that they would do is they had these dessert pizzas. So they would take a pizza crust and put just like a can of like pie filling and just like slop that on there and then take like a little bit of graham cracker cinnamon mixture stuff and sprinkle it on top and then bake that. And they were, they were dessert pizzas, drizzle a little bit of icing on it. I think there were apple and cherry flavors. And it was a thing that kids would eat. And I consumed my fair share of them. Speaking of Pizza Hut and content creation, I think that there should be a dedicated Instagram account

that's just, it lists the location, you know, the country, state, town. And then it's, what is your old pizza hut now? And it's all these buildings that have these red roofs of that shape. And it's like, what is that building now because like none of them are pizza huts anymore. And you see them all over the place and you're like, Oh yeah, that was a pizza hut.

You know, I want to go back and see now I got to check that next time I'm back in Saskatchewan. Yeah. There's a couple of, a couple of, a couple of pizza hut locations I gotta gotta i gotta check up on now okay there you you passed overrated underrated so great news there okay congrats 100 yeah it's more of a pass fail it's like if you don't pass that we don't air the episode so okay shoot well i'm glad i passed yeah so that's important and then there was one one question we didn't hit on before that, uh, as I thought about it, we really should, uh, you've got a lot, you're a man with a lot of tattoos. Tommy pulled one up. Uh, I think it was on the side of your head. It's

probably covered by hair, so you can't show it off right now. It's, uh, the scorpion and the frog. Yeah. And we talked about that and I said, I think I know the story of the scorpion and the frog. And I kind of have a tendency to tell really shitty stories and I don't really know the details. I mean, I don't know why you have it and your personal significance or anything like that. But there's a story behind the scorpion riding the frog and I explained it. So could you tell us what the scorpion and the frog is? Sure. So basically there were a scorpion and frog on a riverbank

and they were hanging out and they both just for whatever reason needed to get to the other side i think things were flooding or something and the other side had had high ground or something yeah but anyways the scorpion is like well bro i can't swim like you want to give me a lift you get me across the other side and the frog says like hell no you're scorpion dude you're gonna sting me we're gonna like i'm gonna die you're gonna kill me and scorpion's like well no i'm not gonna sting you because if i did i would either have no way to get to the other side or like i would drown i would like i'm not gonna do i'm not gonna take myself out come on come on come on come on give me give me a lift so the the frog like reluctantly agrees and the scorpion climbs onto its back and they swim out into they get maybe halfway across the river and the scorpion stings the frog and they both drown and die that's the story tommy how did

i do you told it uh bryce used a little more colorful language you gave me a little more straight to the facts for me tanner, but you did play it exactly. So then my question was, what is the moral of that story? What am I supposed to take from that? I think to me, Bryce, you can weigh in yours. And as you're saying it out loud, I'm thinking of the moral to me because that's the question to me. What is the, if this is a proverb or whatever,

and you probably have an opinion on this. And I'm thinking the moral is he's a freaking scorpion, man. Like you can't take the scorpion out of the scorpion like that's what i think is like the scorpion no matter if he says he's not going to sting you the scorpion is gonna even if he's gonna die he can't not be a scorpion so is that what it is there's just some people you can never trust is that so that's like that's part of it like the classical sort of interpretation of it is basically that like evil people will do evil even to their own detriment or destruction right like that's just their their human nature and like you can't take that out of them uh and to me it was more

about like each person kind of having their own intrinsic nature and i'm not necessarily evil but you know there are things about yourself and and tendencies and things that you find easier and more challenging depending on, you know, the ways that you interact with the world. And the more that you can, you know, start to understand and see these tendencies and get out ahead of your own tendencies and try to like, you know, instead of thinking like, oh, I'm going to change these things about myself, sort of accepting that, like, I struggle with these things. So

if therefore I can, you know, circumvent them or, you know, try to plan ahead so that they don't hold me back or so that it's easier for me to do the things that are more challenging because of work I've done in the past or, you know, however you want to line that up. That to me was like kind of a big aha moment for me and led to my own sort of personal connection with the story, just kind of starting to understand the way my own brain worked and that, you know, I should just make like three or four calendar reminders. And, you know, if like, if anybody tells me anything that I need to remember, I need to write it down and, you know, that like, if anybody tells me anything that I need to remember, I need to write it down and, and, you know, that kind of stuff. So just understanding that instead of being like, oh,

I'm going to try to change these things. Like I'm going to do better next time. It's like, well, you know, might, might be something there that is going to make that a little hard for you. So maybe just try to get out ahead of that and understand that like, this is kind of your nature. So, you know, the way that you do better isn't by changing the nature it's by you know understanding that nature and trying to work with it deep actually heavy thoughts on the mass economics podcast heavy thoughts sorry no that's what that's what i was here that's what i wanted to hear though that was that's good uh and that's just a recurring segment. Sometimes we occasionally talk about something serious.

We call it heavy thoughts. It's a bit of a pun. Oh, okay. I like that. I didn't know that was intentional. No, that's pretty good. You just do the podcast long enough, you have a segment for everything. So it just works.

I mean, it makes sense, right? You come up with a good formula and you hit the hits. Yeah. No, this was awesome. up with a good formula and you hit the hits. Yeah. No, this was awesome. We were really stoked to get you on. I think people will really enjoy this. Where should anybody find anything? I know you guys are coaching merchandise. What should people be checking out?

I like the, as we said, I like the Instagram content and I like some of the long form YouTube stuff too i still enjoy that so yeah um so i mean if anybody wants to find out more about me or calgary barbell calgarybarbell.com is the place that's kind of the hub for all that stuff uh we are calgary barbell on instagram if you want to follow my own sort of personal lifting journey and that kind of stuff i'm bryce underscore cbb um and if i were to sort of personal lifting journey and that kind of stuff. I'm Bryce underscore CBB. Um, and if I were to sort of shout out anything shameless plug style, I would say, uh, check out our Calgary barbell training app. Uh, and again, all that stuff's on, on Calgary barbell.com. You've had the app for a while too. You know, that's it. Uh, how long have you had the app going? Uh, we just had our two dang years anniversary. I'm sure you were beat over the head with

marketing materials for over the last couple of weeks here was good though i like that that's that's how you market it though that was fun marketing of uh and still selling something along the way i hope so yeah yeah i mean we so we have the the app and it comes with you know you can upload your programs your calendar and all that kind of stuff but i think the thing that maybe makes me feel really good about it and hope that people, you know, get a lot out of is that we have this sort of discord community that goes with it and myself and one of our other coaches go in there and we do form checks and we help people modify the programs and we work around people's like equipment restrictions or injuries

or whatever. So it is, it is more like a coaching light than just like a, here's your app. Thanks for the money. So yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty proud of that and think that it's a, it is more like a coaching light than just like a, here's your app. Thanks for the money. So yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm pretty proud of that and think that it's a, it's a good thing. So, and, but, but still thanks for the money. I mean, yeah, it's not, we never complained. Okay. Oh no, that's awesome. Thanks. Thanks Bryce. I think this was really cool. Sure. Thanks for having me thanks bryce sorry should i should i hang up now or are you gonna like i was just trying to act frozen uh i always forget.

I always want to go to the end button and it says end meeting for all. And I got to go, no, no, no, no, no, no. For all. I have to do that every time. I just never remember. It's like, nope, boot them. Just like I boot everyone else. That is the one, this format that we do now.

And for anyone listening audio only, we had Bryce on video again, and we should have that. Last week, we published that YouTube video with video with Jordan as one of our first ones trying that. This should be this way again, and I like the interview experience like that. I think that's good, isn't it? It is, yeah. It's fun actually getting to see the person after all this time. the person after all this time the one thing that's maybe worse is the start and stop of it because it's just slightly well i guess you could say the other one will i mean technically it takes almost the same amount of time as starting like the other one you have to let it ring ring right

half the time people want to answer then we do like starting probably literally just for me and us when i think about that and it's the other people, they're hearing the ring, and the ring to me just isn't an uncomfortable feeling. That's just what you know. But not that it's extremely uncomfortable. Sometimes it feels like there's this, like, we've talked about it before. I don't need to explain it again. Yeah, no, for me, the startup is whatever.

You just assume there's just a few hurdles between turning on video, getting sound ready, hitting record. It's the end when end it's like yeah no don't end it for all like i i always see the end button i click it and i'm hovering over the other red one like just about ready to click and then i gotta pump the brakes and say no no no no and then think about it oh man what the hell am i doing oh god this is this is taking seconds this is so awkward now yes oh that was that was great though what a fun uh what a fun guy you know you like you said we've done this for 372 episodes and you think at some point in time there's nobody you know new that we haven't already had on that's going to be fun and interesting and then every time it's like ah that was one of the funnest ones ever

you know just like uh 372 episodes we've've probably had, what, 250, 200 interviews. I mean, that's everyone in the entire world of powerlifting, right? You think so? And then it's like, well, how have we not had Bryce on yet? Uh-huh. And now we did. Yeah, now we did it. Did you give him this cool beat?

Oh, oh, oh, oh. Cool beat. Cool beat. Beat. Cool beat. I guess that means we're just getting that much closer to the end of the list, right? Yeah, that's true. I don't know, though.

There's just always more. It's just lining them up and getting them going. I've got a few things we wanted to talk about here. I do have a really good get-off-my-lawn story. Yeah. I would also note, not on the list, but do you know what I had for supper tonight? No. I had Zubar wings. Did wings did you shout out to one of the sponsors oh good my wife was there for a book club and she uh brought them back there are two 25 cent wings damn that's really cheap yeah except for then i found out the caveat is not for to-go orders oh so how'd you get around that oh you just don't pay more

okay okay yeah they're gonna say they just wouldn't let you order the wings they just will not give you the deal and then i'm like well at least you got the deal right and she's like well i got boneless wings and i'm like oh they don't count then yeah she's like no and i'm like so are you telling me um none of us got any deal and she's like there was no deals and i'm like damn actually paid extra i'm like i like a deal tell me we got make it up just the thought of having a deal is what makes you feel good the zubar wings though this is relevant information for anyone coming for the lift hard live easy classic because that will be the official after party spot the zubar wings were good they They were good wings. They were solid. They were meaty. Coincidentally, they gave me a two-thirds flat to one-third drummy ratio,

which is my preferred ratio. So props on that. I suppose that's a little coincidental. But was it really, though? They probably knew something. They probably know. Oh, yeah, because this is for the powerlifting meet, guys. Is there a chance we're going to get reviewed on a podcast tonight?

Better make sure the ratio is right here, guys. A few extra flats in there. That was that. So then I have taco news and a get off my lawn story. Which of those interests you more, taco news or a get off my lawn story? I want all of them. I want all of them. Hit me with them. Okay.

So just today, this happened to me. I had a get off my lawn story. I got yelled at today. You got yelled at. I got yelled. Oh, I thought maybe you were going to be doing the yelling. No, no, no. I got yelled at by a much older man than me. Wow. So let me set the stage for you. This is like a real masters then masters, masters, like masters, six class, whatever, whatever. If you're in your sevents and senile um so i'll paint the picture you'll get this very well but um big zach from the gym and also from the discord he had sent me a news article today from hub city radio saying that railroad avenue was going to

be closed from klein to that uh street to the West by like the courthouse, you know, that next street West because they're doing planned, uh, sewer maintenance. So I'm like, well, that's the entire frontage of the gym and like the street from both sides. I'm like, and he sent me that at maybe like 11 and I was going there at noon. So I'm like, well, I have to investigate how we even get to, because I assume some other people are going to be wanting to get to the gym. So I came from the east. You know, I came by the old YMCA where it all started for us. Came by from the east.

And I get to Klein and Railroad, and it's completely boxed. I mean, the street is torn to shit. Like, it's not a thing like where you're going to sneak by. There's like four excavators there. It's like an enormous production. Larry's got his shirt off debris everywhere that's why i was like is larry here um i don't think he was that i could see well that was their first problem right there that's their first problem so next to the just to the north of the gym building next to the railroad tracks i've over the course of years i I've taken this a couple of times for things.

There's just a gravel. There's a gravel thing. And I'm like, oh, I can just take that. I mean, my first initiative, my thing was like, yeah, I'll just take the gravel thing and pull in the back of the parking lot. Wouldn't you think about that? Like, I mean, that would be a, yeah. I mean, I've seen vehicles do it all the time.

I mean, the railroad owns half of the like right of way there anyways. Right. And then it's just an abandoned lot. It's like a gravel track. I mean, I think there might be a case that the railroad might say they don't want people driving there. I also think maybe under the circumstance, if there's not a train there, they might say... This is outside the norm of regular life here. Right, right.

So I paid no thought of it. I was like... And I couldn't even see to the west what the case was. So you went north back up over the tracks and came around? Is that what you did? Well, I didn't have to cross the tracks. I just went north to the tracks right before the tracks, just like half a block north.

And then I turned west just before the tracks, and then I pulled right in to the parking lot. So just to paint this picture very specifically, because it's important, there's the railroad tracks. Right adjacent to it, running perfectly peril, is the gravel. I'll say it's important. There's the railroad tracks. Right adjacent to it, running perfectly peril, is the gravel. I'll say it's a road. It's not really a road, but maybe it's kind of a service road.

The railroad uses it for their vehicles. They use it, yes. They use it and you see people going back and forth there a lot. And then there's a 15 foot wide strip of grass. And saying grass is being pretty generous too that is an important part it is sandy gravel with pieces of grass poking through and this is like one of the most

industrial areas of town like there's no housing here this is like well you would also think if someone's along the railroad tracks they're all old and commercial railroad buildings you came to town you would think these buildings were abandoned for sure. Yes. So there's that 15-foot strip of grass, and then there's our parking lot for the gym. There's just a slight hit. It's maybe like three foot up a little tiny bank just to get into the parking lot. That might be the most, yeah.

So in theory, the route was I had to travel the gravel for a block, make a left-hand turn, cross over this sandy grass, and pull in our parking lot. Because, and I'm doing this because the road is completely blocked off. And from what I can tell, what I've, you know, I've read that the road's going to be completely closed for that full block. It sure looks like it's completely closed because there's all this heavy machinery and it's from the East. It's completely, completely blocked up. So I don't, I paid no,

there was no thought process in my head. This was just by default, what I was going to do to get to the gym. And it was like, obviously this is where, you know, like, of course,

I mean, is that what you would feel like or not? I don't think that any of that sounds unreasonable at all. No. So I do that. And the second I hit the parking lot, I just crossed over the grass. The old man there that owns those buildings pulled up in his vehicle, met me, you know, met me head on.

So he pulled up next to my window. I had my window down. It's been really nice out. He had his window down and just flung a slew of obscenities at me, like an unhinged, deranged, like F-bomb this, F-bomb that, about because I drove over that patch of grass. Because of the grass. That was the thing. Because of the grass. he's like you can't you know I'm I'll save the uh I'll save the tone like it was screaming yeah and I'll save the f-bombs but the message was you can't drive there you can't drive on that

grass what are you doing you dumb ass uh like like and that's mean, it would be as severe of a yell, like someone that's got a vein sticking out of the forehead, like about ready to pass over and die because they're so angry. Like the angriest you could ever picture someone being. And I was so caught off guard of like, like what is going on? What is happening? like what is going on what is happening and i just uh i said oh i and i was i was very caught off guard but i was also polite and i just said oh i apologize i i guess i just did it because of the road construction i thought this was like i'm like i didn't not intentionally trying to ruin your life by driving across that grass it just seemed like the obvious thing to do. And it wasn't even that long because before I said, I'm sorry, this is why I did it, you know,

because the road construction, I feel like that was obvious, but maybe it needed to be said that the road is completely blocked off. So this was how I was going to get in here. And before I could say the second thing, he sped away from, like, tore away from me. Yeah. So then. Hit him and run before you yeah so then I parked and I was like just uh just a little baffled or you know just like I wasn't worked up about it at all first of all I was like just like geez that's like wild behavior. Like, uh, like, uh, mentally all there. Right. So then I,

I parked and, uh, he actually had parked also. And then he was walking by right where I had parked when I got out and he had just started to walk by, I was getting out and I'm like, I'm just going to go apologize again because like, you know, maybe he in this had a bad day. Yeah. Right. And like, I'm like, I mean, it is his property. I'm not, I'm not arguing his right to tell me not to drive across the grass. I mean, I think it's not a big deal. But there's a certain level where, especially in this day and age, like, does everyone have to be an asshole to everyone all the time? I'm like, I never talked to anyone like that ever.

I never talked to anyone even in half that. I never, I never yell at, I'd never talked to people like that ever? I never talked to anyone even in half that I never, I never yell. I'd never talked to people like that. I've been paying you rent for how many years? I've never asked for a thing. You've made in like much money from me for to not even know I exist. Exactly. And I'm like, I'm not positive if he knows. Oh, who you are specifically. I think he might, but I don't even know. Right. And maybe he figured it out later or something, you know, but I don't know that he knows that. I'm not confident he knows that.

I'm very curious to know what happens, but I got to say I'm already shocked you're going back for the second apology. Well, I was just like, so I'm like, I'm like, I just don't, I've matured enough. I think that I'm just like, I just don't like having ill will towards anyone about anything. Killing them with kindness. Cause now that's my strategy.

Apologizing to me, apologizing again. What's going on here? Right. And I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe he just is having a horrible day. And like maybe 10 people did that right before me. And he's just like, you know, his dog died and who don't, you know, there could be a whole bunch of stuff that led up to that second.

I'm just like, I bet it's been a couple minutes and you know, I'll just go apologize and tell him, uh, you know, I really wasn't trying to do anything wrong. I certainly won't do it again. You know, like I, and I started to say that stuff and the F bombs and the yelling started immediately again. And I'm like, like what in the world and then he stormed away on foot this time now this is what that is not this is when you got to go back a third time now at this point now now it's his problem it's not no he stormed away into a building and i was like it was just like my mouth may have been visibly open, uh, a gas, you know, just like, uh, just, uh, just like not offended in any way. You know, I don't, does it, I think something about being in the army and stuff like that.

Like I've had a fair share of ass chewings before. Like an ass chewing doesn't get me like, um,, maybe a 16-year-old girl. It would have been an ass chewing that would make them cry or like a younger kid. You know, they would have been in tears because of even some grown adults honestly would have been in like have tears in their eyes about that. But I do feel like it's one skill I have that I'm a little on phase, especially when I feel like I'm not like, I don't know, even in any situations. I've actually done stuff wrong before when I know I'm doing it wrong and I get an ass chewing. And at that point, I'm like, well, I have this coming.

Oh, yeah. No, those ones I'm always like, I'll come by that honestly. Yeah, I fucked up, man. Like, that's not bad. This one I feel like is way, way out of line, but it still wasn't, I was not upset or angry about it. I was just kind of like, boy boy i got even a second time trying to diffuse this and stuff and it's like the same thing happened i so wish you could have got a

third time in that way because at that point how angry he's got to be that you've apologizing three times he's like no i'm trying to murder you and you're being nice this is backfiring like i just couldn't believe it i had to later call my wife and be like, you wouldn't believe this story I have to tell you. You know? But then I wondered, too, a thought I had later. I'm like, is Midwest kindness a real thing? I think maybe I'm used to what I consider Midwest kindness. If you live in, say, the Northeast, is that type of behavior any more typical or not?

Or is that still, behavior anymore, typical or not, or is that still like completely irrational or, or in the, you know, the meme I have inside my head would be two New Yorkers and be like, ah, F you. And then he yells back F you. And then they park there,

you know, like, yeah. And then they're just like, ah, yeah, screw you buddy. And then they just go along.

Cause that doesn't happen. But, but that's the whole stereotype is that don't they say, you know, in the New York, they'll tell you, you know, F you to your face. And then they'll say you go to California and people say it behind your back because that's how they do it there. And then like in the Midwest, it's like, no,

people just always want to put on the smile no matter what and just be accommodating. But maybe that's how some people are still, is that they want to be abrasive, but don't mean to be as abrasive as what they actually are maybe well that's why i wondered if i'm so desensitized or if i'm so sensitive to like irrational yelling behavior that like it just like catches me way out of left field or you know you know what i mean like if you're just so used to midwest kindness that when someone's not like that you're like whoa especially when we both work in like

more of an office you can't do that in an office environment you would be or I did corporate off and if I did 10% of that I'd be fired yeah without like I would have to have great great call no if I did 50% of that I'd be fired yeah and I get it

I mean it's annoying that people have to be that way, but it's a little different when you work in a field where, oh, it's where the guys, and we talk shit all day, and we just, we're rough. Like, you don't bring that attitude into an office where, like, there's customers coming in, and, I mean, it's just a different world.

Like, people do not, you, like, bring that attitude in, like, it just doesn't work in corporate america at all no not like that and then i like if that's me if you know aberdeen's a small town oh my god you're a business owner in a small town you can't your reputation be destroyed so people would just be done with you it's if in i'm glad i didn't do this and i wasn't thinking about at the time if i would have Everyone has a camera in their pocket. You see this all the time. People posting stuff like this.

If I were to whip out the camera and gone up for that second apology, it would have been the most damning video. Outside of a video showing racism and sexual assault and stuff like that, you would watch that and be like wow i am not you know like um it would just be a bad a really really horrible image for somebody uh yeah i'm like but that's what also where i think somebody that's that old doesn't uh think you know they like almost think maybe like those rules don't apply to them anymore maybe or something like that time they get right they get to live life by their own rules apparently right

right yeah yeah just old and owned businesses you can do whatever you want and it wasn't until like an hour later that i'm like wait a second this was an old man yelling at me to get off of his lawn yeah like this is actually the get off my lawn. And not even a residential lawn. Lawn that is adjacent to a busted up parking lot and gravel road. And right next to the railroad track. Yeah. Like you can't see, like the public can't see that road. The only people that could, or that grass, the only people that could ever see the grass

are the people that pull into that parking lot. It's where we used to do our strong, like flipping tie. I mean, it's like grass. It's like, well, it's where we used to do our strong like slipping tie you know it means like it's like was half gravel it's like pea gravel with weeds growing through it and yeah if that was someone's yard i wouldn't have done that like there's like levels of sense to this that i'm like yeah if that was someone's yard i wasn't going to just whip through there also i wasn't whipping i was going two miles an hour there was no whipping shitties right there was no shitty whipping it was i was driving very really appropriate for the situation yeah boy they thought strongly about the grass wait till they hear about um the condition of

the flooding in the spring in the basement down there right well that's not like you know it's a makes me all these thoughts circle i'm, last year our building flooded and I barely even mentioned it. You know, I mean, I did. And you put in like tens of hours of work to fix it. Yeah, and I asked for enough, you know, like. Yep. That's just, I wouldn't say I had a bee in my bonnet because I wasn't upset, but I'm just like, the thought keeps running through my head of like,

man, there's people out there that that's how they treat people. Yeah. They just run through cloud. They run through life with just this negative energy, this negative cloud over them. And then they're pissed when things don't go right. It's like, dude, you're bringing this to everything. You are the reason it's like this. Could you imagine ever in your life?

Have you ever like chewed someone's ass like that? No. I just honestly don't care about anything enough in life to, I mean, outside of like messing with directly with my family, I don't care about anything enough to like feel that way about things. You know, I don't know what that says either, but. Yeah. I don't know if someone drove into my yard and literally whipped a shitty in the middle

of my backyard and maybe put my kids in danger. Yeah. I be really upset about that but i'm still not even gonna go yelling up to them like oh if i was like you f you f you and if i was like at your house and a car drove through the backyard i'd be like what the hell is going i'd be like i gotta get to the bottom of what's going on here like it'd be almost be more curiosity than angry yeah and i guess i'm comparing things that aren't a fair comparison because that is an act of that is a crazy act like i mean that makes no sense there's no right there's no way to get back there even unless you're driving through 12 lawns you know right right right um but it's like yeah take any industrial park area you could an industrial warehouse park area that has grass that hasn't been kept up with and imagine a vehicle on it and people be like oh yeah what i'm quite sure i've seen other vehicles like i've driving yeah i mean

they drive their vehicles back there all the time when i did come out of the gym after my lift there was barriers put up there too so i'm like oh of course i was glad that there was barriers though because i'm like i don't know how to get this my concern is i can handle it i'm a i'm a big boy you know like i get someone yell at me and i'm like okay but there's some younger guys some girls came after some of the girls that go to the gym like that god my wife would be like calling the police that's what i was gonna say someone might call the police actually you know it'd be pulled you know what are the police gonna do they're gonna be like yeah don't yell at people you know but like yeah some people would call the police over actually well he's gonna you know, what are the police going to do? They're going to be like, yeah, don't yell at people, you know, but like, yeah, some people would call the police over actually.

Well, then he's going to be mad because he got the police called on him and then it's making a whole problem at the gym. So like, right. Right. Yeah. And then, uh, but that, that was just my thought. I'm like, I don't want other people or I'm even like, there's other businesses, like there's a hair salon there.

One of their customers could do that because i'm still like that wasn't a wild thought to do that to go that route uh that i did you know it it did turn out to be fair to the west the other way you could have went around the long way and come in from the west the road was blocked off but to the west it wasn't blocked off with all this equipment you could go around the barriers to go that way but even then i'm like so then you're going around barriers road closed barriers to get there is that the better method than you know what i mean yeah i mean it's without a doubt an overreaction yeah like could you be upset yeah someone could be upset about it but again it goes back to that's not how you treat people it's yeah and that's not even being like uh oh i want to be treated nice it's just like i mean have some common sense like

that's right not how you act when someone drove on your shitty gravelly grass no i don't need to linger on it any longer but i just thought there's a lot of uh important takeaways from human behavior on that uh yeah there are you know what reminds me of that ties us back to the Massomics podcast and lifting? Remember when we were at the Arnold when the guy yelled at you? Yeah, what was that now? I thought about this the other day,

and I don't know why. We were watching, I don't know if it was the XPC or whoever had the... It wasn't like Blaine Sumner's bench. Yeah, it was like way on that rogue stage, way to the side at the Arnold. Maybe like 2018 Arnold or somethingnold or something it was like yeah one of the first or second ones we went to yeah and i mean it was i don't know there's a couple hundred chairs there we're standing way in the back away from everyone like we're standing there feet from the nearest chair

yeah i mean we're we are in the back like there's no if if you can't see it's because you're like the side back we're almost like in the side like i mean can't see, it's because you're just- We're in the side back. We're almost in the side. You could almost say we weren't even watching it. We were so far away. Right. We were standing there, and some guy behind you goes, get the fuck out of the way.

To me, right? Wasn't it? Yeah, to you. I think you go, well, yeah, maybe if you ask politely. The guy was like, oh, I'm sorry. Can you move? yeah maybe if you ask politely and the guy was like oh i'm sorry can you move or so i'm like why is it was like the weirdest place that someone had a chair where he yeah first of all that is like you're watching a powerlifting meet from like i don't know a hundred

feet away when there's you could have been 60 feet closer there's nothing but space between you and i mean open space to go watch it and the guy got so mad that you stood there and then this the way you diffused it as like telling him to be polite and then all of a sudden you had to take a step back and then he I think he was polite then right I think he was too but like that's that is simple that is kind of a similar situation where my action is like just don't yell at me like why are you what are you yelling about you know trust me i don't really care where i'm standing either i have no problem moving but just ask like a person that's yes that is actually a really good comparison of the grass where it's like i have no problem not driving on

the grass if you know turns out it's a problem like i would gladly avoid doing this problem again um but don't you don't have to drop f-bombs and like yeah it's like no like things happen all the time in society there's people that exist in society and a lot of times those people aren't where you want them to be a lot of times they'll just move if you just ask them like hey i'm trying to get by here i'm trying to see this most people don't care but you don't got to go straight to like wanting to kill someone right off the bat we We live in a society that has rules of thumb, that the society moves along much more fluidly. If people follow those,

just a few base, very basic, uh, strategies. And nowadays, you know, I just be careful about who I unload on like that with the way people, people will use anything to say that they feel threatened now.

And that's an excuse to do whatever they want. And you just can't, you can't trust it. It's there's a, that is actually another good point. That's what I told my wife. I'm like, there's a percentage of the population that if they would have got,

someone would have done to them that they definitely have a gun and they may consider of pulling it out in that scenario. And that's especially in rural uh however you feel about guns that is the thing that happened like people it happens all the time i felt threatened or i didn't like the way that person talked to me i shot them doesn't mean who are who i don't know who in that situation was right or wrong but someone is dead now or severely injured because someone felt unsafe verbally there There's that. And there's also just, there's bad people out there that, uh,

like don't want to be talked to that way. If you are going to come at someone that way, like, yeah, someone's going to bring it right back to you. There's people that would punch someone for talking to him like that. I've, I've definitely been friends with people in my past,

like in their twenties, if you would have talked to them like that, and it was at the wrong time they're throwing fists like instantly and probably doesn't matter how old they how you know the age difference or anything like that they're just there's some people that just like don't respond to that any way other than violence in return there are some people they just like see violence they do they see red the second that happens and it's like they just they lose control their body they go to like caveman mode that's like they do things that they probably the second that happens. And it's like, they just, they lose control of their body. They go to like caveman mode. That's like, they do things that they probably regret, but that I don't even know if they know what they're doing in the moment, you know, they lose

it. And that's a, that was a point that I made too. I'm like, you'd, I would not run. I personally wouldn't, you know, I'm a big guy that doesn't matter against a gun. No, it doesn't matter if someone, if someone, you say the wrong thing to someone and they have a gun no it doesn't matter if someone if someone you say the wrong thing to someone and they have a gun or a knife it doesn't matter if you also have a gun and a knife if they make the first move and you're not expecting it you're done like what does it matter that's why you just can't even have that can't even have that attitude anymore that was something that i thought about too that i'm like i'd be careful who i spoke to like that because there's people that do like after that got done you're like i'm going to be really careful who i apologize to twice from now on because that ain't that the truth uh slightly

more light-hearted although that wasn't heavy-hearted probably but just uh just just a observation of the human condition yeah it's sociology uh experiment i don't know if that's considered more i suppose that's more sociology than psychology because it's the interaction of people. Right? There's probably some psychological things going on in that other head. That's true. Now for

what we've really been waiting for all episode. Taco news. And you may have seen this already but I still just wanted to review this taco news. Very interesting and relevant. This is very interesting, actually. I was surprised by this. Yeah.

Title, Taco Bell appeals to U.S. regulators in bid to liberate Taco Tuesday for all. The restaurant chain Taco Bell filed a petition on Tuesday to end the chain Taco John's trademark of the phrase Taco Tuesday, arguing that it should be available to all who sell tacos. Taco bell said in a release that the trademark, which has been in place since 1989, I couldn't believe that. Yeah. Has put companies at risk of legal action if they want to use the phrase.

So they probably threatened to, you know, if they haven't, they have the ability to threaten to, uh, it said the chain is not seeking any damages for the trademark rights, but wants common sense for usage of a common term taco bell believes taco tuesday should belong to all who make sell eat and celebrate tacos etc etc i mean i see both sides

of this it's what do you that's what i want to think what you're at is this is obviously funny as hell i mean this goes on to show though how just broken and busted and idiotic the u.s patent and copyright intellectual property it's it's so i mean okay taco tuesday like i get it they were maybe the first ones to yeah 1989 i'd like to think maybe someone said the words taco tuesday together before 1989 but taco john's were the first ones to they were the ones that said file the paperwork yeah do the legal work to have that ours two incredibly generic words um i i mean according to the letter of the law it appears that taco john's has every right so like they're doing the right thing here um taco bell who would think you should be able to trademark just a small phrase like that of just a couple words.

And then here's another one. But this is where it's so dumb. But here's another one. It's so dumb. I saw this not that long ago. Chipotle. There was another restaurant that was selling because Chipotle is a type of flavor. You know, there was another restaurant that was selling a Chipotle is a type of flavor you know there was another restaurant that was

selling a chipotle chicken burrito bowl which could totally be used to describe it and chipotle sued them because that is too similar to their menu item i'm like oh okay yeah so you just like own anything with the word chipotle in front of it now like where chipotle existed long before the restaurant franchise chipotle came around you know exactly yeah and so now you just get to like own phrases of that common word used and things like that's kind of starts to break the english language at a certain point when private companies can just own a huge swaths of how these words work in there um so it is really annoying taco john's i have a spot for them in the Midwest, you know, they got that whole thing going on. They're doing it right. But this does just go to show

the greater problems of, uh, how our U S uh, system works there. Yeah. Yeah. It's so silly though, too. It is like lawyers are getting paid a bunch of money for this right now. Oh, multiple lawyers. And, and also taco bell just wants it for their own self-serving interests. You know, they're like, oh, that is the ultimate marketing phrase. We need that. They're not trying to liberate anyone. They don't care about anyone. They only care about themselves here because you know the second this wins,

they're going to be running. You're going to see 10 million ads on TV for Taco Tuesday at Taco Bell. And that's the only reason they're doing it. How they want to do it, liberate it for everyone that makes, sells, eats, enjoys tacos. they're doing it how they want to do it liberate it for uh everyone that makes sells eats enjoys tacos like yeah yeah and i'm sure i'm sure taco bell has some some uh surprisingly vague words copyrighted in their uh in their dictionary of taco bell slang you know so yeah they're doing

the same thing but uh yeah they have definitely their own self-serving interests in mind we should uh hit on supporting our supporting members i forgot to do that oh yeah i can't leave this we're still doing it we didn't forget we're just doing a little later uh this is a segment of the podcast we do it every week it's a relatively new segment of the podcast but we do do it every week when we can. And it's where we have the supporting members that choose to monetarily support our podcast, which was awesome. We greatly appreciate that.

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So this is a garage gym competition version of supporting our supporting members. You've seen that's going off now. So we've got a whole bunch of members that have been throwing their hat in there. So some of them, I've got some numbers. Some of them, it's just that they've been competing. Big Joey, one of the regular hosts of the crew podcast, he competed. I saw that today. Big Carp, he got in on it. And I see there was like a deadlift party that Jonathan Oldham was at

with Surplus Strength. Jonathan was there and some other people. And Big Carp was there. He got a picture with Jonathan, so that's cool. But Big Carp competed in the garage gym competition, and his numbers included a 425 deadlift PR and a 495 squat PR. Sweet. So a big five-plate squat PR.

Yeah, that's a huge milestone. Big Spoon got in on it. Didn't have his numbers. I think he did some. His programming wasn't in singles, you know, reps but he get on it a big dutch matt uh our big uh big dutch friend matt he got in on it his numbers included a 408 squat pr very well done big dutch matt and then uh our crew agronomist big uh nicholas rol, he did it. His numbers included, get this, Jefferson deadlift PR.

He did his deadlift Jefferson. He did 455. I love it. And I think he shortly thereafter went and planted a field of corn. At least that's what I'd like to think he did afterwards. And transitioning then into a quick agronomy update, which I haven't done for a year. Yeah.

Are things very... Yeah, planting's progressing nicely. It actually is. I didn't know if it was too wet everywhere up there. No, it's going. The wheels are turning. You know, it's wet-ish and stuff in places, and there might be some mud holes and stuff that don't get planted,

but it's going. It's trucking along. Because, you know, I was up there last weekend, and I was surprised at the amount of water I saw in ditches and fields around. Yeah, there'll definitely be potholes of people, you know, I was up there last weekend, and I was surprised at the amount of water I saw in ditches and fields around. Yeah, there'll definitely be potholes of people, you know, planting around and stuff, but the wheels of progress are still going. And it's been really nice. It's actually, it was hot today.

It was probably our hottest day of the year. It was like, I don't know what it got up to. So this was the first day that I go, damn, it's hot out, you know, almost. Yep. Not in a bad way. I'm still enjoying it, though. I don't know. What's it been like there?

Amazing. Like all this week has been between 75 and like 80 and no wind. It's been so nice. Yeah. I've been going on bike rides with my youngest daughter. Well, everyone pretty much like every night and just so many nights that I'm like, what is going on? It is so nice out. Like, it's like, uh, it's just so nice out every day. So let's keep that rolling, huh? Oh yeah. I hope so. Okay. What do we got? Should we touch on some ads or what do you think? Let's do it.

Did you have another thing in here too? Yeah, this is just a quick one. When we were eating out the other night and they had the Rogue Strongman and we were at a sports bar. It was on TV. It was on TV. And it's so funny watching it because I'm just watching it. I'm like, oh, Leah, yeah, that guy was on our podcast.

That guy's actually one of our sponsored athletes. That guy, he likes us a lot. We talk to him all the time. We've actually interviewed that guy. We've, we've, we've had a video with this guy and I'm like, wow, that guy's bought stuff from us. Oh, here's a picture with, see those two guys together. Here's actually a picture with me and Tanner with both of those guys. Like, and I'm like, it's so crazy when you see them on tv and then just be like we actually know all of them fairly well and have interacted with almost every single one of them yeah it's true i mean in the top level strongman because i've never really i've never really thought of it that way but it's once you get removed from you know the event of it all

going on and you're just watching it on bar, on a, at a bar, on TV, like any other sporting event, you really feel like I really know the ins and outs of, of that, of that event right there. We do get to, it's really fun and cool. And just like, uh, as someone that just enjoys the sport of it and stuff like that, it is fun, you know, and I kind of, you know, even like at times what people's opinion are of each other, you know, and I kind of, you know, even like at times what people's opinion are of each other, you know, and like, you know, stuff you share, but just like knowing the inside baseball of it is, uh, is fun, uh, just adds another element to it. Uh, and it is just like, you start to know like, oh, that guy's just a really good guy. Like I want him to do well here just because I really

like, you know, just, he's really nice and friendly. I hope he does well. And the number of times where I was also like, see that guy. You can't tell, but he's really big. Like that guy's really big. It doesn't look like it there, but trust me, he's enormous.

Did you, was a Pablo? It was, it was during the deadlifts. Actually, it was when it was on and Pablo went by or Pablo was on at one point. And I'm like, I know you can't really tell right there but trust

me that is one of the biggest people i've ever seen and she's like okay sure like i don't think it is indescribable how it is someone like that guy he's like i don't know you're just like i don't know you have to see it it's like thor you have to until you stand next to him you don't really know but even pablo has still like a different build than uh yeah pablo is one of the biggest oddities i've ever seen him and the other one that always just shocked me also for not being like you know brian brian sean thor sure they're big like yes that is like it is insane how big they are but pablo he's not like six seven like those guys but right he's bigger in a different way at the same time it's bigger in a different way at the same time.

It's bigger in a different way. And the other one always to me was Kowalski. Like he's also something about him. He looks so enormous in person and I don't even know how to describe it. You know, we've met a lot of people that are some of the strongest in the world at powerlifting and they looked nothing like those guys still. It's just different. Another one is Terry Hollins.

When you see him in person, you're just like, dude, something's different about the bones in your body. I think we've always said it. The size of his feet and just the width of his wrist. It's odd how wide his wrist is. And then you're like, I get it why you could be really, really strong. Like your,

your bones and your arm are twice as wide as mine. Yeah. Right. It's not like the, you have different parts than the rest of us. It looks like. Yeah. Your skeleton weighs three times as much as mine.

Yeah. This makes sense all of a sudden. Yeah. Oh, so true. That all reminds me of something. Make sure to check out Juggernaut AI. It is the training that Tommy and I both use.

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uh this gym actually does have an outdoor turf area which is kind of cool it's outdoor yeah outdoor so it's been just now recently nice enough that people and i don't really get what i don't really get what the rules are regarding like what you're allowed to from what i can tell it's a free-for-all you can take anything outside and i don't even know who's in charge of choose your ass up and down for doing something that seemed like pieces yeah but uh people take stuff it seems like you just take out whatever you want and i don't even really know what the rules are and bringing it back in either. But I was taking my dog for a walk last night and this was, I would have walked by the gym about nine 20 at night.

And I got to say, I was absolutely shocked at the number of people in the gym at nine 20 at night. And all I can think of, cause it looked like all young people is that it's just like high schoolers. I don't know who else, unless the all young people is that it's just like high schoolers. I don't know who else, unless the, your demands of life require you to lift at nine 20. Right.

I don't know who chooses to lift at nine 20. Like that's not ideal for almost anyone. Right. No, no, no, no. I don't think it,

I mean, there's some people who's have odd work hours or whatever, and they just, that's what you do what you got to do. But I think, yeah, it's probably younger people for a lot or people on shift work. Maybe that's possible.

But who's it in the discord that is a member there? Didn't he say he got to, that's what I wondered if it was big Colton. Yeah. Doesn't he go out like that time? Was that, was it that late? Or did he say he goes out like six or seven? I couldn't remember. You're probably right.

I don't think it was that late. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I mean mean it was almost 9 30 and i was just i've never had like an actual workout 9 30 at night like still getting after it um which was kind of shocking to me to see i don't know that's pretty late to be shutting it down after that oh god i've never seen i've never seen it that busy during the day you know by that point it is dark in here so our so like the gym is lit up and there's big windows you can see all these people and they're like i've never seen it look like that during the day but at by that point it is dark in here so our so like the gym is lit up and there's big windows you can see all these people and they're like i've never seen it look like that during the day but at 9 20 at night it was just popping well when we podcast like this you know

we're at 11 o'clock at night this is a long one and stuff but it's late this is past my normal bedtime do you fall asleep immediately or does it take you any wind down well what I do um because on Wednesdays what's weird is so I get done working and then it's straight to kid time because we're gonna start podcasting getting into podcast mode about 7 30 so it's really only about two and a half hours so I basically get unless I quit working early and get caught up on some phone social media stuff I'm behind on that. So like, as of right now, I basically haven't looked at Instagram since like noon today. So I'm behind on Instagram. When we record, I turn off email too. So there's going to be some

emails that come in. I'm going to be behind on the discord. And then I'm like, Oh, I'll have some fun time on Reddit or something. So I fall into this trap where a lot of times we get done and I might sit on my phone for another hour and not go to bed until midnight. I kind of have to do the same thing, though, even though it's past my bedtime and I'm fatigued and stuff. I can't. I can't. If I, like, slid into the bed the second we shut this down, I'm not ready to fall asleep because you're, you know, might not look like I'm doing cartwheels over here and stuff. But you're a little incredibly bright lights is blaring in your face for two and a half hours now. It is really, this lighting that we use, which is very nice lighting, it is relieving when you shut it off after recording this.

You're like, oh, I didn't realize the stress that that was putting on me. Finally, yeah. Another good one, another good one in the commercial, Jim. commercial gym there is a guy in there that he's he's something else and he's probably in his late 50s early 60s if i had to guess uh he screams out uh yeah buddy a lot while he's lifting really and um nice he was on his phone talking very loudly lifting the other day and he's like a lot of people just don't get it, man. The only way you can, I couldn't even tell if it was a real conversation. It's like, the only way you can get stronger is you have to train to absolute failure. People don't get that. And I'm like,

okay, this is a phone conversation. I'm like, okay, okay. Like a holdup right there. Like that's pretty well documented. Like the, not the best way to train is to absolute failure. Like you do not get stronger. If you actually genuinely trained to absolute failure, you're not recovering from it in time for the next workout. Like, I don't care how tough you think you are. If you really, really do train to absolute failure, you're not ready in time for the next workout.

So already you can't work out strong enough. Like that's not how you get stronger. And also, if you want to know more about that, look up the scientific principles of strength training and it explains it very, very clearly on how you actually do get stronger. And also, if you want to know more about that, look up the scientific principles of strength training, and it explains it very, very clearly on how you actually do get stronger. Yes. More. We're hitting a lot of book stuff to this episode too. Yeah. But he's just like, that's a good book. It is great book. And I actually still haven't finished it yet. I got to finish that thing. I'm almost done. And I just, you know, you get almost to the end of a book and you're like, I've gotten everything out of this. Right. But I have not gotten everything out of

it. There's more in it. I just need to finish the damn thing but that is a that is a very very very good book probably actually i shouldn't say probably it is the best book i've ever read on strength training training i i agree i've read quite a few too and i do really like that one so that yeah that's not okay to be having loud oh conversations like yes so i'm not like in the gym like that is the last place i would ever think of having one wanting to have a conversation and then to have a loud Bluetooth headset conversation in the middle of the gym. It was a Bluetooth headset. I was going to ask that.

I feel like I already knew that it was a Bluetooth headset conversation, but it was worth pointing out. Yeah. Yeah. That's not okay. I'm so self-conscious about talking on my phone in public that I would do whatever I could not. It's the thing now.

Like, your phone's just, everyone's phone is permanently on vibrate. Like, you don't even want the damn thing to ring, and then it's like ringing, and you're like, ugh. Okay, I'll hit ignore, unless it's an absolute emergency, and then you, like, go in the corner,

and you're like, yeah, what's up? Yeah, I'm at the gym i gotta go well that's the not in that's the polite thing to you know that's the uh that's the that's appropriate to me like yeah i think that's the thing more younger people are conscious of then yeah yeah yeah some people make a scene on purpose too oh god yeah uh any other good commercial gym stories or um i guess i'm gonna leave some cliffhangers for next episode that would probably be the big one is that the outdoor area is open at night time seems to be popping that's when people are going that's surprising to me that people are going that there's that many people there that is um yeah

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Oh, they were great. That was maybe the original recurring bit. I think it was. As far as Instagram goes. Right. Maybe Tanner Sack was original to that. Right. As far as Instagram goes, Versus was the original and the longest running.

We have well over 100 of those. But then the rookie card got in there. And then in its heyday, we had three. Every week there would be one of each of these. Mass Comics Versus, a rated rookie card, and the Lifting Legend. Lifting Legend, actually the most work of putting together of any of those. Yeah. Those had a cult following for sure. Those did. Yep. Lifting legend, actually the most work of putting together of any of those. Yeah. And those also got,

those had a cult following for sure. Those did. Those had like those three things almost had like three separate. Yeah. The lifting legends would really pull some characters out of the woodwork. He'd some guys that I think got Instagram accounts just to make a comment on some of those, you know,

that is true. I'd like to bring that back someday too it's just that only problem is instagram doesn't reward that stuff like it used to not one bit like oh you took the time to find this photo and put some facts down yeah let's just show you some boobs instead yeah like where's the boobs yeah yeah it's just you just get a warning instagram's like uh your account has not hit its boobs quota for the week is there any way you could make text uh or or make uh um uh quotations uh subtitles fly over the cross over over the top of this quickly in a visually appealing manner. That's Instagram for you.

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