Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 377: Brittany Diamond

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

Big Brittany Diamond joins us for this one to talk “Business, Barbells, and Boobs”. We dive into her strong(wo)man career, reporting for ESPN, her brand new podcast, and the Ninja Creami. We also announced the new Jefferson Deadlift competition in this episode! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://store.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings of how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Welcome, everyone, for episode 377 of the Massanomics podcast. If you're watching along live on YouTube, you notice I jumped up out of my chair real quick and jumped back in. I made the classic rookie mistake of leaving the overhead light on. Can't be leaving that light on. Been there, done that.

Last minute. At the last minute, I thought something's off here, and I got that light off. And we are back for 377. After a long layover of not recording, your podcast feed hasn't been disrupted. We've had a new episode out every week, of course, just like always and forever. But it's been a while since we've recorded, so it'll be fun to get back inside.

It's been a while. Yeah. Ah, yeah, classic. Stained. Stained, yeah. What's the lead singer of Stained? He's on his own now. He does country music.

For real? Oh, yeah. Really? He has for quite a while, I think, actually. Okay. Aaron Lewis, Tanner? Yeah, Aaron Lewis. There you go.

Big Coke Heeft, Massonomics supporter, friend of the podcast, went to an Aaron Lewis concertwis concert last year if i remember right so wow no idea yeah aaron lewis learned something it's been a while oh the shit seems to disappear when i'm with you it's kind of borderline almost in that like creed thing where you can sort of just yell like that. Like when you sang that one little word or whatever, it just,

it really reminded me of creed actually for a second. I had to adjust. This is how you remind me. Okay. My name's Tanner. Did I say that yet? I don't know. My name's Tommy. Okay. Episode 377. We've got a banger of an episode. Got a lot to tell you about, but first, before we told you about some of the things coming up in the episode, I wanted to let you know this particular episode is brought to you by our good, close, personal friends over at The Strength Co. The Strength Co. makes made-in-America, veteran-owned, high-quality iron plates, the best iron plates that your money can buy. They work great for a home gym, commercial gym, massonomics gym, any kind of gym you could think of that needs plates. This is the kind of plates

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in the episode. Sometimes it's more true than other times, and today it is as true as it gets. We could probably record a five hour episode on our own right now. We've had so much stuff happen, you gets. We have a lot. We could probably record a five-hour episode on our own right now. We've had so much stuff happen. We have a lot to run down on this one. I mean, topics to include but not limited to our supporting member mailing

that went out here this last week that people have been enjoying. Oh, God. I actually already forgot about that. There's so many things. Our new competition announcement, our the where everyone can get involved and everyone can win that's the big announcement this episode i think we've got uh big britney diamond coming on as a guest in this episode we've got florida news taco john news cracks apple cologne i'm just saying words now it's just like words just words at this point, but they all are words from our actual to-do list.

Supporting our supporting members. So much stuff this week. I don't even know if there's any – there's no chance we're going to get to all of this, is there? Well, we could, but we'd have to give the really short version for a lot of these things. Yeah, and if there's anything where you've come accustomed to not getting from us, it's the short version of just about anything. That's right. First thing I would mention that's not even on the list is make sure to head over to our YouTube channel

and subscribe if you're not. Last week we had kind of a fun video giving a rundown on the equipment we got over the last two months, but the video that just uploaded today I love. I think it's so fun. I don't know what the title is. It's the blind barbell test video. Yeah, barbell guessing game, I believe is what the YouTube video is called. Yes, the barbell guessing game video where a few of us down at Mastodonics Gym did a blindfolded everyone,

and we had to guess just based on feel of knurling what bar it was that they were holding. And it was a lot of fun. And I think that video is really cool. It was. And I was watching it and we were laughing a lot in the video. And while I was editing it, I was laughing a lot again. And I do miss it because to me, that was just exactly what going to the gym was like. It was just you laugh that much and then you go do your set.

Like you turn it on for 30 seconds and then you just go right back to laughing and being dumb and that can go on if you want to be at the gym for hours that's how it is just the entire time you're at the gym yeah you know like we filmed that on a saturday and that is very much what saturdays feel like when you're down there you know that is what a saturday at mass that is a saturday at mass dynamics gym really is what that feels like we did have just to justify it uh it's not just us saying we have several several of the fellas in the discord crew right now you know big andrew weighing in several of them saying that that's their favorite video that we've done so far and it might be my favorite video that we've done you know over those last few months of of pumping

videos out i just just i watched it you know you public you edited it and put it put it out there and i watched it twice. Both times, I'm like, oh, that was so fun. It almost makes me feel like I was one of the gang, and I even was one of the gang. Yeah. It gives me the illusion of being one of the gang, even when I really was one of the gang. Gives you that out-of-body experience. But we didn't talk about it it did we both said after

we got the video done and watched it that it reminded us of super training videos way back in the day where it was just a lot of guys hanging out and lifting and having fun while they were doing it so yeah so check that out and make sure to smash our knurled subscribe button when you're over there it's knurled for your pleasure. Okay. Should we talk about the competition that's coming up, or do we save that? You know, that's like the heavy hitter, I think. Yeah, maybe we should get that out front because it might just get carried away with too many other things then.

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about too. So that is the big announcement, and this is somewhat tied into the crew crew mailing that went out we've been seeing everyone share that on instagram uh you got your uh official jefferson deadlift history letter that went out to all of our supporting members we sent up mailed out uh well over 300 of those things uh so i had to buy a lot of stamps at the post office to mail out all those envelopes, but I think we, for the most part, successfully stuffed everything in those this time that's supposed to go in them. I haven't gotten too many messages yet of people that were missing a letter or whatever. You didn't accidentally slip hundreds into a few of them?

No, but I do like somebody shared there. Big Eddie shared his where he had like an extra $52 bills in his. We'll leave that up to your interpretation whether he did that or it really showed up that way. But someone did it where they had to have had like $10,000 in there. Did you see that one? No. Stacks of, it had to have been at least $5,000 of $100 bills in there. I didn't see that, no.

I'm like, I hope I didn't do that one on accident. Just blindly one day sleepwalking. But everyone got those in the limited edition stickers. You know, those stickers only went out to supporting members to crew members. So that would have been like the $2 bill, Jefferson deadlift sticker. And then actually an old callback that $2 bill is a callback.

That's the liner of the lift shorts, three pockets for anyone that doesn't know. And then the JDL Jefferson deadlift league. That's never been a sticker before. That's an old shirt that we only ever made like 50 of maybe about five years ago. And we put that in a sticker. I always do forget that that was a shirt.

I do. I have that shirt. So that's why I, you know, that one sticks out well to me because I do still forget that that was a shirt. I have that shirt, so that's why that one sticks out well to me because I do still occasionally wear that one in my rotation. So you've got the limited edition stickers, the fun letter, which you haven't read it yet. If yours hasn't showed up, check out that letter. It's got a very interesting, elaborate history of the Jefferson deadlift.

And then, of course, an actual $ two dollar bill so who says it doesn't pay to be a mass atomic supporting member you're losing money not signing up and actually while we're at it we should also say thank you to everyone that signed up because uh things were going kind of crazy there for a while with all of the new members joining it was it was really awesome seeing all the people getting in on yeah we we had a lot of new members joining um so so then this leads into the contest oh for anyone that doesn't know i have a an assistant right now in the in the mass economics podcast recording studio uh tommy maybe you should get started on explaining what's going on, what the start of the contest is here. Okay.

So after lots and lots of careful scheming and planning, we are ready to announce the new Jefferson deadlift competition that was teased in the mailer that went out to all the supporting members. And this would be, this is kind of a return. This is a return of the Jefferson deadlift competition. We did one a few years ago, but it's back and it's better than ever. And here's the details for you.

We'll have this all on Instagram. So because there's a lot here, you'll, you'll forget some of it, but it'll all be on Instagram. So you can see it again. But the Jefferson deadlift competition is going to start June 29th and run through July 10th.

So what's it give you? How many days are in June 30? Tanner, you there? I can't unmute. No, you muted Tanner. Yeah, I can't mute. Still can't hear you. Did you hit the mute button? Yeah, but you won't allow, you have to allow me. I can't hear, I can't hear Tanner. I don't know what's going on. Okay. So the contest will run June 29th through July 10th. And we want Jefferson deadlift videos. So we are going to put this on Instagram. All we want is you to post a Jefferson deadlift.

And the video has to be 30 seconds or less, which I mean, it's Instagram. That's how it goes. And we're going to just see how many awesome videos we can get out of this. We'd love to see, you know, all the crazy stuff people come up with. And when, um, when we get all the videos and announce them, we haven't actually said the date we're going to pick the winners. It'll shortly after july 10th but we have a variety of prizes we're going to give here and three random winners just for entering it has nothing it is not based on merit performance anything but three random winners are going to did i actually mute you or what happened no i muted it and i didn't realize that i can't like then since you know the way you have to have the permission set up uh i could it wouldn't allow me to uh see i was thinking maybe you bumped your board and hit the mute button on your board no

i muted it on purpose i had a a special helper here for a minute. And I knew you muted it because I couldn't hear you anymore and I saw you talking, but I thought for sure you hit the red button on your board and that's why I couldn't. Okay, so I was just going on and on. You're doing a great job explaining anyway. Yeah, we'll try not to like me for while trying to technical troubleshoot. We'll also explain this at the same time. But I was just saying, okay, we're going to have some prizes going to everyone. The first set of prizes is going to be three

random winners. So this is not based on merit, skill, achievement, anything. You just have to get in on it and getting in on it gets your best chance of winning here. Like your best chance of winning something is just getting in on the competition, right? Yes, exactly exactly and so three people three very lucky winners are going to each get forty dollars in two dollar bills mailed directly to their house and they're also going to receive a sixty dollar gift card from massonomics to use on whatever their heart desires so it's a hundred dollar prize value for those three each on forty40 of that and $2 bills, which you almost can't. Can you even really put a value on $40? No, you can't.

Go out to dinner with that and they'll for sure think you're paying them in fake money. Yes. So, but there again, we kind of stole like the part, that part of the competition. We almost, that's all a garage gym competition where you just need to do it you just need to participate and you could have a good chance of being a winner everyone has an equal chance that participates and did you say what they actually have to do in order to participate uh that it's did you tell them the the hashtag oh no no we haven't got to that that's the details we'll get to that part in a minute here. So that was the first set of winners.

The next one is going to be just Masonomics favorite. So that's just me and Tanner deciding what our favorite one is. That could be based on a lot of criteria, and it's more than likely going to be how we're feeling that day is how we're going to determine that one. So that usually does come with a lot of debate, there's usually like four or five front runners that are really really hard to decide on so our favorite is going to get a hundred dollars in two dollar bills yeah that'd be 50 we're doing the math people that's 50 two dollar bills directly to you and

you'll probably get some massonomics goodies mixed in with that too and then the final biggest prize of them all is going to be awarded the granddaddy of all the granddaddy of the whole thing is going to be awarded to the heaviest deadlift and jefferson deadlift yes sorry yes naturally yes heaviest jefferson deadlift that gets recorded during the contest here and they're going to get 222 dollars in two dollar pills yes you heard that correctly do not adjust your podcast yeah there was there was no stuttering there was no glitching the 222 was what we said there and i'm really curious i i have no idea what that number is going to or what that number is going to be like we were saying there's a lot of really idea what that number is going to be.

We were saying there's a lot of really strong guys that if they decide to do this could probably just pull 800, Jefferson, any day of the week. But a lot of them probably aren't going to do this. So I don't know. I think we're going to have a fair number in the 600s. Will someone hit 700? Maybe, probably. Will someone hit eight?

I don't know. That's a big deadlift. We know people out there that can do nine. It's happened. It's on the record board. maybe probably will someone hit eight i don't know that's a big deadlift so there's we know people out there that can do nine you know it's happened it's on the record board so maybe some of those guys will come out of the woodwork we could see anything but you're not out even if someone out does you you still are then in the running for one of those three uh you're well you're running for random and you could also have one of our favorite deadlifts too who knows right right maybe you're decked out massonomics gear and you could also have one of our favorite deadlifts, too. Who knows? Right, right. Maybe you're decked out in massonomics gear, and you pulled 800 pounds, and that wasn't heavy enough.

But, like, you know what? That's still our favorite. It's just too good. Yes. Yeah, massonomics gear being on isn't required to enter, but it's encouraged. It's always a great tiebreaker, too. Yeah, and we're probably, obviously, you know, if you know how competitions go we're going to share a whole bunch of these videos and if you're wearing mass atomic stuff they're going to be

that much more likely to share it if you care about that you know i mean that's that's just the truth about that um we did talk about uh like these videos we're looking for jefferson deadlifts you know like that's that is a requirement it needs to be a jefferson deadlift in the video and also like that's what we're looking for in the video right like there's not a secret uh yeah we don't know how yeah we don't need like a big scripted movie thing like we just want to see good cool jefferson deadlifts right um yeah i mean that's that really is it like you're probably probably have more points coming your way if you can keep your video to less than 10 seconds. Right. Right. Like we want stuff we can, we can share and spread the good word of Jefferson

deadlift, you know, like, uh, we anticipate we get a whole bunch of videos out of this that we can share. And then a lot of the community, even outside of massonomics start to starts to take note of why is there so many damn Jefferson deadlifts going on right now? And, you know, we can play into the one true deadlift. And I really, I really like the thought of just being able to tell people, you know, hopefully this draws in new, some new people that aren't as familiar with Jefferson deadlifting. And we get to tell them, you know, we got sick of the sumo conventional deadlift debate. We think they're both cheating and this is the one true deadlift.

And that gives us that chance to get that message out to some new folks, I think, here. Exactly. That's what we're all about, getting the message out. So when people want to enter the contest, of course, they have to tag us so we can see it. It needs to be a post on your main page it needs to be a post yeah it can't be a story that disappears so you got to uh tag us at massonomics in your post and then also use hashtag jefferson dl and that means jefferson deadlift in case uh you couldn't connect the dots we shortened it for you so hashtag jefferson dl along with tagging us we'll we'll

get you we'll make you pop up on our radar yeah and so if you can't jefferson deadlift uh five six seven hundred pounds it doesn't matter you just do what you can and that's going to get you entered and get you a good chance at one of those three random winnings um so don't worry about it we're not you know the heaviest certainly has something to be won there but everyone could be winning something here as well what else about the competition is that kind of the nuts and bolts of this thing uh yeah just be on the lookout yeah just be on the lookout for the official post on instagram that's where all the details will be but one more time really quick june 29th through july 10th

three random winners heaviest winner massonomics favorite tag us hashtag jefferson deadlift boom you're in make it a jefferson just that simple yeah make it a jefferson make the video do please do a jefferson deadlift in the video somewhere you know like the focal point of the video a jefferson deadlift we don't want 50 seconds of something else and at one second jefferson deadlift we don't want 50 seconds of something else and at one second jefferson deadlift so we're telling you right now that that video will almost certainly not ever get reposted or anything because that's not how instagram works like yeah i wouldn't watch that it's worthless just do a damn jefferson deadlift you can be creative with the lift but do a

jefferson deadlift now are you being coy about that no i'm not i assure you i can't be any more straightforward than what i'm doing right now. As much as I am laughing, just do the damn thing. I think I'm going to read between the lines on that one and interpret what you really want to see there. Again, I'm not sure if we're on the same page here or not. I'm excited for it, though, and obviously this runs over the 4th of July, which is fun timing for this.

And maybe soon, maybe real soon, we'll have some Jefferson deadlift merchandise that exists that you could, you could utilize along with this competition. Maybe even. That sounds nice. Little hint there, little foreshadowing of things to come i'm uh i'm getting really thirsty tanner oh yeah i thought you'd never mention being thirsty

here we go just pull this magnetic drink spotter light off of my corner post here what do you got over there had the last strawberry watermelon that was left it was like week three working this thing pretty damn hot yeah i've got a uh lacroix tangerine tangerine not one of my favorites but it's not limoncello either so it's got that going for it it yeah it's not limoncello either, so it's got that going for it. Yeah, it's not bad. This is a three and a half to me. You know, it doesn't wow me. It's not bad.

Nothing about it is really just unremarkable. I'm pretty sure I've said this like five weeks in a row, but I think strawberry watermelon, I think I've always given this a four because it is good. Solid four over there on the strawberry watermelon polar. Is that a polar? Yes. Polar, hardly newer.

All right, Tanner, we got lots of stuff to talk about here. Yeah, what do we go to next? I don't know. We were both on vacation. I feel like we probably need to talk about our vacations a little bit. Yeah, so you went to Florida, right? I did go to Florida. Ohio of the South. Is that what they call it now? probably need to talk about our vacations a little bit yeah yeah so you went to florida right i did go to florida my ohio of the south is that what they call it now i think that's what the kids are

saying uh my wife had a work trip which means that i get to tag along and have some fun and it did work out good that also one of her good friends was also going on this work trip and her husband also tagged along so we got to do fun guy stuff while they did uh work stuff yeah work stuff conference stuff uh and then met up with us later in the day so that part of it was really fun but man i this time we went to destin florida more up in the panhandle or in the panhandle damn near Alabama. And that is it on the, was it on the Gulf? Oh yeah. It's on the Gulf. That is a different vibe. The last time I went to Florida was like a year ago. I went to Miami, man. You might as well be in two other than the beach. You might as well just be in two different places, like two different

countries. It was such a, did it feel more like you, what you'd call the South? Oh my God. Everywhere you went, everyone has an Alabama accent. I'm like, where the hell am I? I didn't pick up on this anywhere when I was in Miami. Like, you know, Miami, everyone's speaking Spanish. But in here, it's like, oh, I'm surrounded by Jonathans. Just the y'alls and the draws on everything. It's like a whole other world. And still, just a Southern accent just catches me off guard every

time because i'm just i was like where the hell am i right now that i'm hearing this yeah but uh yeah alabama is very close to there so i guess it does make sense but uh did you dip your toes in the water i did yes well i did some of that life is good today the problem with that though was that like every day we were there was just the most insane weather. Everyone's like, oh, it hasn't rained this much in forever. It was just crazy. There was one day, it felt like the one guy, our Lyft driver picked us up and he goes, geez, this almost feels like it's when a hurricane's coming.

I mean, there's parking cones blowing everywhere. The traffic lights, the power was cut on everything. Like police had to come in manually, like flag people through intersections. It was insane. Like the rain was coming down so hard. Did you do just like inside stuff more of that? Well, so that was more in the morning the one day

and then it got nicer. But I guess the only bad thing about the weather, there was like one full day when it was kind of shitty. But the main thing was trying to go to the beach then you had like all these red flag warnings which i didn't even know how that worked where you aren't supposed to go in the water so we go to a beach with lifeguards and get out of the water get out you know that whole thing eventually we made it to some other beaches where there wasn't lifeguards where you kind of just i mean i was like didn't need to like push it hard but i mean you can at least go in the water then you know right so that made things a little bit of a pain for that but um other notes i'll just give the quick the quick the

highlights yeah i did get to experience my first waffle house oh yeah yeah i gotta say about that i'm yeah like you had like people build it up so you have like these expectations in your head you know it's been it's been talked about a ton in our discord especially and the okay the food the food's about what i expected maybe even a touch better like it's just like it's just solid breakfast food you know it's it's good there's it wasn't it wasn't bad by any means i would totally eat it again and again again i had no problems with the food just good solid food yep uh but man people talk about the atmosphere and i kind of was ready but i actually was not ready at all it blew me away you if that was real i could not believe actually how it is in there and i don't know if this is how all waffle houses are or just some of them but there isn't a back room like the the kitchen and everything

is right there there's no okay like oh yeah i'm gonna oh yeah i gotta go talk to the cooks it's like no no so does it feel like a hibachi grill oh it's insane in there like my wife turns to me she goes damn these people are working right now like they're they're like the same people are like bussing tables and cooking your food and and checking out tickets and it's just like everyone's running everywhere it was absolutely insane and we sat at the the the bar counter where where the you know the the grill the or the the kitchen is right across from you know they're four feet from you so you get to really take it all in for how crazy it is but i just did not uh i did, I did not expect it to

be like that. It was, it was like very organized chaos is probably the best way to put it. And it was, I even heard someone commenting, like one of the waitresses was like, Oh, I've had like 40 tickets in the last hour. Like even they made it seem like even for them was really busy. And I, I think it's because it was a crazy storm going on when we went. So I don't know if everyone was like, Oh yeah, let's just get breakfast now instead. Right. Right. But yeah, I mean, you had, you had, it felt like all the crazy stereotypes, like you have some person working named pinky. Another person's name is prime. Like someone, you have the, like the pregnant waitress, you have like the really old waitress. Like it was just like, felt like every waitress that's

on a smoke break. It just felt like every stereotype you could think of existed there. But, man, they were. They were. They were working hard, and it was good. So I was really impressed, and I am now even more convinced that we have to go to the one in Columbus the next time we're there for the Arnold because it is just such an experience. Did you see any fun fights or anything? No, no. Everyone was very civil and nice and good.

It was at, like, 10 in the morning. like we'll probably go to that or anything no no it was all everyone was very civil and nice and good it was at like 10 in the morning but uh it like i'll say hype this up for how wild it is then we'll probably go to the one in columbus and it'll be like the most chill thing ever so that was really cool to do that other than that though it was mostly just beach stuff hanging around i do got to say though one day we went or we had with the people we went through we had rented a car so we get around a little easier because it is a pain in the ass to get anywhere because everything's so spread out and just lifts just kind of sucked ubers all that just it was annoying so the one day we went and i'm even i mean you drive up i think the highway's like 30a or something like that

and it goes along the coast which a lot of really cool sites and you get to these areas where there's just like way too many rich people live in them because everything is like perfectly manicured and right done to perfection to the point where it just feels so fake so he stopped at this one place i mean they make it look like a european i'd have to go back on my phone and look they make it look like this european like town like like you're in sweden or something like that like yeah it just doesn't even it looks so out of place in Florida. It's cool, but it makes no sense. It's so bizarre. And then you go down a little bit more and I believe it was called seaside and we're pulling in and just the, the grass on just the Boulevard, the palm trees, it is all done to perfection. And I go, God, this does not even seem real. It for real looks like we're in the Truman show right now.

And my wife is like, no, it says right here, the Truman show was filmed here. And it's like, that was like, so you had said that. I said that and she goes, no, no. Someone so said, this is where they actually filmed it at. And I didn't believe her. And we looked it up and of course that is where the Truman show was filmed. Have you seen that?

Oh yeah, it's a great movie. I've seen it multiple times. And yeah, it's just like, it feels so fake and manufactured that? Oh, yeah. It's a great movie. I've seen it multiple times. And, yeah, it's just like it feels so fake and manufactured that it's, I mean, that is where they filmed the Truman Show. So, like, if that doesn't say, like, that fits that thing. And that was 20 years. I'm sure it's even, it'd be funny to watch it now because I had to look up some scenes and be like, oh, yeah, I was standing there and there and there. But, yeah, it was cool to go to, but some of the places were maybe a little too, right.

Maybe a little too manufactured. Too much. Like you were on the Truman show. That's a good way of describing it. Actually. Yeah. Otherwise though, it was a pretty good vacation.

Didn't have any travel issues, which is always huge. Once you have a family and all that to not have to, I did. The kids weren't with us. Luckily my parents watched our kids, which is good to get away just to have a little time to sleep in and, uh,

just get caught up on life. But yeah, to not have travel issues either there on the way back was, was really, really nice. Uh, cause that helps a lot. Kill it,

kill a vacation in a hurry. That's true. Uh, yeah, I'm glad you brought up the waffle house. I'd forgotten about that already. It'd been so long since, we hadn't talked. I know you posted about that and i was really curious about it so yeah yeah it was good i'm trying to think i wore my son on my stuff every day of course no one notices

like always really annoying um yeah that was mostly my takeaway from florida i believe oh of course like the first lift driver we get he asked where where you from and we say South Dakota and his dad was from like not too far from Sioux Falls okay it doesn't matter where you go like someone has yeah somebody always some connection to South Dakota in some way yeah and then like another guy like a shuttle driver one night asking where we're from and oh my wife's family's from Minneapolis you guys don't seem to have that northern accent the way they do and I'm like that's it depends on who yeah some people think they got a bad some not so much yeah yeah so that was Florida yeah well we did go to this bar one night and we thought it was like pretty low-key chill uh and so we're like wanting to go to the more exciting place and

like oh no this is the exciting place stay here and like yeah whatever and then all of a sudden you're drinking enough that you know two hours have gone by and then you realize oh yeah this is much like the zoo in aberdeen oh this has turned everyone showed up at midnight yeah and it was uh and it was karaoke night which is also hilarious to be at a bar and damn the number of just sad country songs that can be i didn't know you could sing so many sad country songs on a friday night for karaoke until i went to this to this bar and i maybe so did it really get you going oh my it was hilarious i mean it's like comical i'm not i'm not a country guy my wife doesn't like country either but it was hilarious how every song was just this heartbreaking it just like like the song would just be the most whatever,

cheated on me, I hate you, all that, like you know how country songs are. And then it would be done, and everyone would just be right back to partying, screaming and cheering, and the next song would come on and be just the saddest, sappiest thing ever. And I couldn't believe that there was that much of that,

but we are basically, and you were basically in the South there, so it makes sense, I suppose. Yeah, a little different than Miami, Florida, for sure. Yeah, yeah, very different. So that's my trip. Tanner, you were also on a bit of an excursion yourself. Yeah, I didn't go south.

I went east, I guess, pretty much. I suppose it's oh okay you know what one other thing though just made me think of the same directions okay you might not western northeast you might have to look at a map to actually see this i did not realize that this part of florida is in the central time zone still i didn't think any of florida was in the central time zone and if you look like the way western part of florida i mean straight north of that it's west of indianapolis like that's that's damn near in illinois that's crazy how far west that is isn't it

that is it is like west of indianapolis yeah it's it's borderline the mid Midwest as far as how far that west goes. Yeah, it's actually, I don't think of it this way, but Florida kind of runs just as far east and west as it does north and south, doesn't it? Yeah, it sort of does. You're right. It is like a big square that's just missing the bottom left diagonal. Right. Huh, the more you know.

So what was the town? Like was it by pensacola not quite that far like where we stayed it was uh what's it like miramar beach but then we went east over to like seaside and great beach and bayside from saved by the bell. Naturally, of course, yes. So yeah, that general region. Yeah. Okay. Alright, tell me about your vacation. Let's hear it. I went to just left western northeast South Dakota and just went to straight northeast South Dakota for a few days just to get away

from it all. Leave all your worries behind. Boy, was it a change of pace. No went to washington dc which uh looking just want to see how far it's actually like speaking of geography stuff it's really a long way south of us actually i gotta see this too like a lot farther south of aberdeen oh yeah i would picture him just in my head that's like even with kansas city almost right right it is but i guess virginia was the south technically right kind of i mean it was borderline right right um so yeah we went to washington dc i've never have you ever been? Yeah, I went to like a lot of people take high senior trips there. I got to actually it was I did go when I was going to be a senior in high school.

But what happened for me was my homeroom teacher said, hey, there was this contest where people had to write a paper and they were going to pick the best paper and they could go to Washington, D.C. And they go, no one wrote a paper. So if you can write one in the next two hours, you win. And I said, I'll get this paper written. And I mean, it was like, to say a paper would be, I mean, it was like a one-page thing. Yeah, yeah. And so then I got to go on like a week-long trip to D.C., which was pretty cool. So you probably got to see a lot of the sites. Yes, it was a very, because you were there with all these other kids from South Dakota,

so it was a very regimented thing. Like, I feel like we probably saw about as many things you could possibly see in one trip. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what, I've never been there before. My wife had been there before, but we took my 11-year-old too. And we left the small girls at home because we wanted to have some fun. Because we wanted to enjoy some of the trip and uh you know taking five and two-year-olds across the country on planes and

stuff especially if there are parts of that that can be uncontrolled that can be not so fun sometimes so it was a lot of fun and but we did man, man, we, I really like the history part of it. And I knew, I knew I was going to like it before even going. I was like researching stuff before getting there. Even, you know, it's just, cause it's, it's just fun for me. Like I really like that stuff and I like going to the, you know, we went to Boston a few years ago. I really liked that. I still want to go to Philadelphia cause I haven't been there yet.

And I just, that stuff interests me. So I knew I was going to like that. I still want to go to Philadelphia because I haven't been there yet, and that stuff interests me. So I knew I was going to like it, and we went to all the – I mean, we walked so much. I wasn't lifting for a week, but, my God, my step count was like 6X normal every day. There was a couple days where I'm like, we just have to sit down for a while because my feet hurt so bad right now. Did it remind you of the Arnold a little bit yeah yeah it did it was it was like that feeling sometimes I was just checking a message there from our guests but I think we're still good to go okay

just changing my train of thought but no it was really cool we saw all the all the all the sites we went to like every Smithsonian Museum that was basically and and you could spend a day in each one of those if you wanted to oh that was that's my takeaway from it though is just like it becomes an overload of stuff it's just like everything you just end up just that it just right normal exactly so i ended up just just starting even just kind of like the highlights at that point in time where I'm like, there are certain things even with being like over just an overload, there are certain things though that still stick out above that

that I'm like, oh, now that was cool. So the few things that were like that for me was actually seeing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights where I'm like, ah, that's crazy that that is the document right there. I'm like, that just does seem kind of crazy.

That's like that 200 and you know, whatever 50-year-old document. It has had the impact that it has. Right, right. Those were kind of crazy and then I really liked uh i had been looking for forward to seeing the changing of the guard at arlington national cemetery yep that was a cool

experience and something that stuck out to me that i hadn't expected was the uh the air and space museum they had like the plane that the wright brothers first did man uh they had that plane on display oh i'm like that's pretty wild yeah that is i didn't even know and then they had the uh yeah they the only thing that was new on it is they had like recovered the fabric in like the 80s but other than that it's like the original um actually the the plane that they did did first, I guess the technical term is heavier than air manned flight. Because there would have been hot air balloons that preceded that, but that was by means of lighter than air. But then the other thing there was the Apollo 11 capsule that they came back to Earth in was there on display too.

And that was also cool where I'm like, that's pretty crazy too. Like seeing some of that stuff in person, it just strikes you different than watching videos and seeing pictures of it and stuff. It's like, oh, that is the thing. That's that thing, huh? Okay, and you said that was the air and space Smithsonian. Yeah, that thing is pretty cool. See, and i'm trying to remember because when i went that was that was

somewhat a somewhat limited day i believe i went in i cannot remember if i did that one or not now i know for sure is there like a music and pop culture one or something like that do you know yes yes the and we didn't go there um there i mean there's like 15 smithsonian museums along it's on the mall you know and uh dc and there's just there's it's just lined with them of course you know we went to the botanical garden one which that was one of my wife's favorite and actually i had thought oh i won't care about this i'm like that was one of the coolest ones actually seeing all the yeah the plant stuff i mean it's just just because it was so much different than some of the other stuff you know it just uh just really stuck out to me compared to some of the other ones

um if they're oh what was something i thought that felt a little overrated to me when i saw it was uh they call it like the stones and bones one which would be uh uh old fossil you know it's like the oh fossils and like that yeah they had like the hope diamond there would that be like the natural history one or yeah the natural history one and like the hope diamond there would that be like the natural history one or yeah the natural history one and like the hope diamond was something that was just a little um underwhelming to me when i saw you know just like yeah i guess it's just a it's a shiny rock right right i would make fake ones that look just like this oh one other cool and just think of anything that's noteworthy that not everyone does exactly you know basically we did basically we did the stuff that everyone would do when they make this trip. But we did do a, we got a tour from,

tour of the Capitol building through one of the South Dakota senators' offices where they gave us a tour. And we got to watch the Senate for a while, like sit in the balcony above the Senate. And we walked in and one of the senators was talking, and I could tell who it was just literally by voice. Like as soon as we walked in, you could tell it was Bernie Sanders.

And he went on like this 30-minute thing where nobody, it's like nobody was even pretending to listen to him. It's just like him just talking nonstop, and we're like looking over his shoulder. I'm like, this guy's barely looking at a note and he's just talking for so long about this material that he just you know i'm just like uh it was just it was just it just felt very much like what you would watch on c-span but it was just fun that it was bernie sanders someone that i actually you know because out of out of this the hundred senators maybe there's 20 that actually exactly There's so many that you're like, I had this name could, you could make up the name. And I went, no, you'd be like, Hmm, this guy, someone should tell this guy

podcast exists. And then, uh, after, uh, and there was nobody else in there. I mean, it was not all the senators. I don't know what they were doing, but they're just like taking turns coming in and blathering on about stuff. And then after he left, then it was Elizabeth Warren that came in after him. And I'm like, ah, it's one of the other ones that I actually know who it is. So that was kind of interesting in the Capitol building. But one thing I would say about all this stuff, I'm like, there's a lot of like, it's weird. I'm like, there's a lot of like, it's weird.

Museums and stuff are weird in that I get it when it's, you know, the Declaration of Independence and stuff. That's got to be somewhere. And, you know, we should keep that. And like, that should be on display at a museum. But some of the stuff I'm like, does this, where does this belong? Like, is this, does this belong in a museum? Like, who is it that owns, like, it's just a weird thought. I'm like, where did you get this belong? Like, is this, does this belong in a museum? Like who, who is it that own? Like,

it's just a weird thought. I'm like, where did you get this from? And like, should you be the one that has this? Like when I'm looking at this, like, no, no,

well, we claimed it. So it's hours now. Year old Mongolian suit of armor or something like that. I'm like, I'm just not sure who does this belong in mongolia or yeah right right there's some of that that i thought and then like just like the overdone-ness and of some of it i'm like

i i think it's really cool and i like it but i can also see the side where i'm like should does all this need to exist like i'm just like i'm a little conflicted in a way almost where it's like there's so many like memorials and monuments and like like really cool really expensive stuff that i'm just like i'm not sure but i i like it i and i appreciate it but i could also like uh just to play devil's advocate i'm like it seems like there's a lot of money tied up in like just like pumping ourselves up yeah i mean i do see that at the same time it is your national capital so it's like if you can't right it's the place for it i mean of course it's been paid for over like 30 times right or 3 000 times with you know the tourism and all that but yeah some of it does like to just maybe feel like a little too self-congratulatory at times you know right that's also the kind of

the interesting part about the you know united states history where it's just like oh even this stuff it's not that old you know like so it's like it's just not that old it's like just the old stuff is a couple hundred years old like right right right but it was really cool i liked it and i like going to like the of course the jefferson memorial okay yeah so i was gonna ask you that stuff like between i wore jefferson deadlift shirts around everywhere so yeah we went to all that we went to the walked up to the uh lincoln memorial and the uh so washington monument yeah of those washington monument lincoln memorial the jefferson one the white house like what was of those locations are i guess even in there too isn't yeah they're Memorial, the Jefferson one, the White House, what was of those locations?

I guess even in there too, is there like the Vietnam and the World War II one and all that? Yeah, those are two. Yeah, and the Marine, the Iwo Jima raising the flag one is a big one too. So of those, what one stood out to you the most? I really liked the Lincoln Memorial, but I've always liked lincoln history and stuff too so that i knew that but that one was um just like that structure and stuff is like a little bit awe inspiring almost but it's also weird it goes into like the illuminati stuff of like the the architecture that's chosen to be used for all of this stuff. Like, why is the Lincoln Memorial, it looks like, you know, a Greek Parthenon or whatever. You know, I'm not even using the right comparisons probably,

but it's just funny the different architecture that's chosen to be used. And then, like, all the different symbolism, and it's like, ah, it has 36 pillars for these reasons. And I'm like, do people make this up after it's done or like you know okay we just kind of find as many things that we can assign symbolism to as possible right or reason to um did you okay like this for me one of the things that stood out the most to me and i i mean i'm probably building up more in my head now than what it was but when you when you were

at the the iwo Jima, I don't even know what they call that monument memorial. I think that's the Marine Memorial, actually. Did they have the full band and everything there? Did you see that happen? No, because we did a night tour of some of that stuff, which was kind of cool, too, because everything was all lit up at night. So we were actually at a night tour when we did,

when we're at that one. Okay. That to me is, I would actually love to see it again to see like, if it holds up in my brain, but they had the guys doing the whole drum line and everything. And I thought at the time that that was like the craziest thing I'd ever seen because they don't like, you know,

it's like Marines. They don't like their body does not move besides the, the drumming happening. Other than that, they might as well be a statue. And just the, I can't even that there might be a statue and just the i can't even remember it now like it just seems so insane to me at the time and it went on and on and i thought that that was so awesome when when i saw that one yeah probably the coolest

part though i did get to see uh massomics crew member uh we went to a nationals baseball game too well you're a big baseball guy so it makes sense yeah crossover into sports and books uh actually baseball being my technically my least favorite of the major sports definitely the thing that i've been to most in person just because i like i do like going to baseball games in person because i like the stadiums and i like it's just easy to do the vibe yeah ticket isn't cheaper than the other things yeah right but yeah so But yeah, so you didn't see, uh, well, yeah, maybe we should just, uh,

segue this into supporting our supporting members. Yes, actually, this would be a perfect, uh, segue opportunity. This is a relatively new segment of the podcast, but every week we like to give back to our supporting members and we've got a

whole bunch of new supporting members over the last month. So it's good to give back to as many of them as possible here. And the first one I would mention is big Murph, supporting her because, you know, I got to meet her in person at the Washington Nationals baseball game, which that was really cool. Did you guys know that at all ahead of time, or how did that play out? Yeah, because I had asked her about, you know, ahead of time, like if she goes to the games, because I kind of thought I remember her talking about it,

and she has been season ticket holder in the past so was just asking her about like best way to get there and best way to get tickets because I didn't buy tickets until like the within 24 hours of the game you know because I didn't know exactly what our plan was going to be and um so I was getting insight info from her and she said she was probably going to be there too so I said we'll have to you know find each other at the game and she came and sat sat uh sat by us for like half the game because the nationals aren't very good i guess so there's a lot of stadium was like half empty yep yeah or half full depending on you if you're an optimist yeah i saw that uh the the post you guys had and at first i'm thinking is this totally random were they here

just totally i'd be cooler if it was just completely random like that but now i knew yeah you guys had the picture there i'm like oh that's so cool yeah so that was really cool and she's uh competing in the lift hard leave easy classic so we'll see her in a month again anyways too so that was cool big murph uh other things uh big gluck drop tested the drink spotter light with like 800 pounds so that was good to see uh big jess competed at ipf worlds those uh just kind of are wrapping up now what'd she do did she get third in her i believe she got third she got the bronze so congrats third best in the world is not anything to shake a stick at. Pretty good.

Pretty, pretty good. Big Chris Mark, the man with two first names. He did his first powerlifting mock meet. He got a 405 squat, 275 bench, a 440 deadlift for an 1120 total. Excellent numbers there. Let's see. Then we've got Big Aaron. Big Aaron was the guest this week on Unpaid and Underrated. So make sure to check out the Unpaid and Underrated podcast.

That was a fun one. I didn't know that much about him, and I got to learn a lot more. And it was just another case where I'm like, oh, this is really cool, getting to know more about some of the people that have supported us for a long time. You know, he's supported us and have supported us for a long time and over, you know, he's supported us and listened to us for a long time. And I, I mean, I see him in the discord,

but I just didn't really know about him. And now I, uh, not like I put a face to the name cause I don't see his face, but I put like a, it's more than a fate putting a face to name. Actually. It's like putting like a just really,

really like know them deeply. Right. Right. Right. So that's cool. Right, right, right. So that's cool. I have to, I'm very behind on the podcast. I have to get caught up.

So that's on my to-do list is that I listened to one of those on the, I listened to that on the plane, on one of my plane rides actually. And then last couple is a big Luke. He got hitched. So congrats on the funeral, the old ball and chain. Yeah congrats on the funeral. The old ball and chain. Yeah.

Big Lou got married and then big Keegan went to prom. So congrats on Keegan going to prom. And that's covering the whole spectrum. That's covering the whole spectrum of relationships there. That is a lot of life cycle stuff. Yeah. Okay. Can I, there that is a lot of life cycle stuff yeah okay can i should i tell you about who this episode is uh brought to you by yeah i don't see our guest yet so we got time she yeah she had mentioned that she'd be running a couple minutes late felt like not showing up so just go on yeah yeah um

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is a memorial out in dc that has granite from northeast south dakota oh i believe it is the franklin dillano roosevelt memorial and the granite okay the granite is from good old northeast South Dakota. Wow. Okay. That's cool. Yeah. It's the iconic Dakota mahogany would be the blend. Rich mahogany. It's a very kind of a purpley stone. So a little fun fact for everyone there. Is our guest actually waiting?

She is now here. Yes, she is now. Okay. So yeah, I should kick everyone else out here so we're gonna start booting give them the boot scooting boogie while i'm doing that quick did you guys have any crazy food at all or anything while you were there oh what did we have uh there there was a couple things i wanted to bring up on food related oh that one thing i was going to bring up is the lime scooters there oh yeah yeah freaking everywhere all this and we took them a few times they're almost a little bit of a nuisance though because they're because they're everywhere because they're everywhere the bike share and the lime scooters and then they're like don't want you

ride on the sidewalk but i would never ride one of those on the street so i'm like where are you supposed to ride this yeah and then the part like when i every time i used them it ended up not being convenient i mean it's kind of just fun for me and jack to scoot around on but like it's not practical because like the places you could leave them or it's like you drive from one place to the other and when you get to the place you want to go you're like oh wait a second where can i actually park this and then you have to like somewhat strive like yeah yeah and i don't know maybe you can go around it but they threaten to fine you and i don't see the last time with me not knowing what to do well and it probably is different there because there are so many people the last time i used those was in like phoenix and it actually was right like right by asu and

there it just seemed like it was a free-for-all it was just like literally get on it wherever you want leave it wherever you want it does not matter and like then it was perfect it's like yeah this is just so convenient you can just ditch it when you want. It does not matter. And like, then it was perfect. It's like, yeah, this is just so convenient. You can just ditch it when you're done, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That would be better.

Uh, should I let her guest in? Let's do it. Okay, here we go. hi britney how's it going good how are you guys good good if you if you don't know i'm tanner and i'm tommy nice i met you I met you, Tanner. Oh, that's right. Yeah, you stopped by the booth at the Arnold, yeah.

Yeah, that's right. All right, cool. If you're ready, we're going to just jump right into it. We don't want to say a bunch of good stuff and not have it be recorded. Yeah, as long as you guys see me okay, I'm sitting, not standing. So my computer desktop's a little weird. But if it works, because you guys are in a good studio. yep no it's totally fine yep yeah it's perfect um no that's cool then we we want to talk about that too we'll get to talking about studios you know you've got your new podcast going and that's something i definitely want to talk to you i'm excited to talk to you about that

and find out how that's going to uh see how're liking it so far and what, what you're, how you're feeling about the starts of it. But for anyone that's not listening or for anyone that, that, that doesn't know, that hasn't been familiar with you in the past, could you give a little bit of your rundown, you know, the, the typical stuff you talk about on your podcast, on a podcast when you're on for the first time where, you know, your, your strongman history, your physique competition accomplishments, you know, some ofman history, your physique competition accomplishments, you know, some of your accomplishments that you've had over the years. Yes. So athletically, I started as a track athlete.

That was my first love, favorite sport. I did long jump and 400, 600, pretty much. I was very versatile, so whatever my coach needed me to. So I was an All-American for that. Planned to get a scholarship so I could go to college on that ended up tearing my hamstring so had to kind of come up with a different plan because I didn't sign anywhere yet ended up rowing division one at University of Rhode Island I was a walk-on it's the only division one sport that you can actually earn a scholarship for so that that was cool. Did not like rowing, but I fell in love with lifting there. They made us lift three times a week,

the main compound movements. And yeah, I just fell in love with strength. My junior year of college in the summer, I was working at a gym and I stumbled upon a strongman contest called Boston Strongest. Didn't really know what it was, but I thought it looked fun and thought I would be good at it. So I did that and the rest was pretty much history. Won my novice show and then after I graduated college in 2014, I actually moved to the area where the strongman gym that I liked in Boston was and ended up just sticking with that

for years became pro in 2017 did strongest woman in the world three times kept getting third and after a pretty bad injury I had some wrist reconstruction I was like I don't know if I should go back to strongman yet so I dabbled with women's physique for Mc and that was fun and then i did something called super league which i won and did some tactical training and now now i'm just kind of washed up no i'm just kidding so you've done a lot like the short version of that is you've done a lot over your period of time in the strength sports and stuff like i mean um there's been a lot did you say you ran the 600 for indoor yes oh okay yeah i was like what's okay so so 600 is a common indoor event then yes okay so did you out did you run like the 800 then too or would be the six year longest usually

i did the 800 sometimes so i would do the decathlon and like the pence i forget what it's called but we have five events my coach just said okay britney let's do this let's go to boston this weekend and do that so i was just thrown into random things i also did cross country in the fall and i've actually done a couple half marathons so i was kind of yeah versatile i guess you would say yeah uh a lot of people say isn't like, I mean, it depends on what you're good at and everything, but isn't like the 600 or 800 I'd throw in that area, isn't it kind of like the hardest event sort of because it's almost a sprint still, but it's the longest sprint event? That's what people say.

Yes. I would say because it's not necessarily a sprint because it's so long. So you just have to be very good with that lactic acid threshold. Yeah. So strongest woman in the world. You got, did you say you got third three times? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's, I mean, that's, that's a's a crazy so who was who was finishing ahead of you in those years usually it was leifa we went head to head for years yeah she's awesome okay so then you talk about you know you made the joke of being washed up like that's not accurate of course but

like there is this uh thing and i've seen some of your posts of you talking about it, where you coach people and you do, you know, you're still very active in the sports, especially through coaching. have to be getting third every year at world's strongest woman in order to be able to still feel like you're a valuable coach and like that you, you know, that you can do that stuff and you don't have to be actively doing that all the time to still have value there. Yeah. Great question. So just recently I felt okay with my decision to not feel the need to be in prep for something. And it bothered me for a long time. It's been very difficult the past year. It'll be a year since I've moved cross country July 1st. And, you know, especially being somewhere new, I always felt like I always had that community when I was competing and, you know, it gives you like utmost drive and it makes the routine in the day so it's

been I did feel like I had an identity issue I actually have been writing about it a lot I wrote an article called death of an athlete because I pretty much did treat it competing like it was a death because it was all I've known since I was a girl in middle school like I was going to the high school to practice with the older girls. So like having a competition, always wanting to be better is kind of all I've known. So when I decided to put it on the back burner for a little bit, yeah, it just felt like very traumatic. And I would, I was starting to get this, this terrible anxiety, which was a compound of, you know, being on my my own being away from family having my own business that essentially I made and built because of competing and having those

connections and my knowledge in the sport so I struggled you know with will I end up on the streets and be poor if I don't compete like it came down to that but now I feel I'm at a very good place with it you know I feel confident I feel that I can still walk the walk. And honestly, until I'm, I one day maybe have kids or something, I always want to be like 12 weeks out from something. Like I could just jump in if I wanted to. Yeah. So what, what is your, your own training like now then? I mean, are you, um, you know, are you benching and deadlifting, squatting, maybe not benching, but deadlifting, squatting? You know, are you doing the big barbell compound movements regularly? And if you are, are you training them what you would consider for strength?

I mean, how do you go about it then? Obviously, you're still lifting. You know, you're not going to the gym, but maybe you're just training differently than how you would if you're actively competing for a strongman show yes so I still power build essentially where I do the main compound movements sometimes instead of benching I might do like a viper press or there's a lot of strongman out here so I've been doing like more odd lifts outside which I really like because it is like strongman but yeah no I train four to five times a week I do I don't do cardio like I'm like I'm in prep but I do walk or rock every morning and

then do some hit a couple times a week post training and I make myself you know it's hard you coach yourself but I make myself like know it's hard when you coach yourself but I make myself like a template and some weeks might be a little bit different or I don't like beat myself up if I don't like if I don't have time to finish a workout because I have like a business thing going on um this week's actually been kind of all over the place because I had a photo shoot for American Barbell on Tuesday and they told me it was just gonna be fun then I Then I got there. They're like, okay, these are the 15 movements you're doing. And we want you to try to go heavy. So I was like, oh, okay. And then yesterday I joined my friend, actually Nick Best's wife, who's up here, Callie Best. She convinced me,

and I wouldn't consider this competing. It's just fun, but I'm doing a local CrossFit competition July 8th. So will this be your first CrossFit competition ever? Yes. My first, probably my last. I would think, I mean, a lot of the events you'll probably

be really, really good at, though. I mean, like it's... It can't be that much ahead of time right right yeah so we've been practicing them and yeah i actually some of them are like rowing and then right front squat so i'm good at those i'm really really like i can't do like kipping pull-ups and stuff and i don't want to because i don't want to you know already have enough injuries that i deal with on a daily basis i don't i really don't want to be having like any kind of surgery. So I do hold myself back a little bit on purpose. Like if I wanted to be really competitive with it, I would hire someone to help me.

Yeah. You know, my technique for Olympic lifting and hone in on my double unders and hone in on kipping pull-ups, but I just don't want to do that. So, yeah, that seems fair. Uh, you talked about rucking then. So is that something you do quite a bit? And like, cause I say that because like in our, our discord channel, there's been quite a few people lately talking about rucking and we've had, uh, Josh Bryant on the podcast in the past. He's written a book, I think on rucking and

like, uh, what is, I mean, is rucking thrown on a weighted backpack and going for a hike? I mean, is it that simple or like what, what is in, what is, what do you consider rucking? Yes. So I started rucking. Well, so Josh Bryant was my mentor and he coached me for a couple of years. So I've been with him. We've actually written some books together. So I did the rock from him. And the reason I I started is because when I was reading about it it's three times easier on the joints than running and again where I was a former runner obviously I'm much heavier now than my running days I still love I love being outside and getting cardio and do not like machines so I just tried rucking I had like a vest at first

now I just use a backpack and I just, I usually just do 40 pounds. Anything more than that seems to irritate my traps, but yeah, I love doing it. I can do it year round here. And I actually started a rucking group and we've done some like mountain ones. I try to meet with them every few weeks. So it's been fun. And it's, it's nice because, you know, you're getting more of a, a a workout. I get my heart rate up to 140-ish, so I'm in that zone two, almost zone three, and it goes by fast. I could do it for two hours. So with rucking, is that something that you're programming in, or is it just like, nah, I'm

just going to go and just see where it takes me, see how this feels today? No, I don't do it as methodically as I would do it for like a client. I try not to do it. Like if I know I have a heavy squat day, the following day, I'll try not to do it the day before. It doesn't really, it doesn't seem to fatigue me too much because I'm used to it. Like I walk, I've always walked so much so much like when I was young my mom made me walk because I was hyper so she'd be like go outside so I'm pretty pretty accustomed to it like it makes me laugh and sorry if this is going in a different direction but everyone talks about steps these days and I'm just like yeah oh gosh we're humans like why are you paying someone to

tell you to get steps? Yeah. You should be moving a little bit, like for sure. Yeah. You know something that I always, I'm sure we've talked about this on the podcast at points in time over the year, but whenever we have a woman on that does strong man, I always think it's weird. Like the sport is strongman so you say like

what is right you say you do strongman or you do strongwoman because both sound kind of weird to me when i say it in that context so when i write it out in the proper way is to put like strong and then parentheses w o parenthesis cold parentheses man but like if i'm just talking about it, I'm just like, oh yeah, I do strong man or strong woman, whatever you want to consider it. So you could use either yourself. Both of them sound funny when I say it out loud. I think, I don't know, neither of them sounds quite right. I know.

I like the parentheses on the W-O. It's just harder to say that out loud. Exactly. I usually just air quote it. I's just harder to say that out loud. Exactly. I usually just like air quote it. I'm like, yeah, strong man, strong woman. Yeah. You talked about American Barbell, which I think that that's kind of cool. You know, we've got one of their power bars.

It's a really nice bar. We've got that a little while ago. Like, how did that come up? I mean, are they out of Las Vegas? Yes. Okay. They have a warehouse here. I met them in December at the Olympia here.

They were hosting. So Stan Efferty hosted a rhino cage and my goal was to squat 315 times 20 reps. I only got it times 18, but that was the bar we were using and they were still like impressed. And I just kind of was talking to them and they asked me to work an event for them. And then they asked me to do photo shoots randomly. And they're trying to come up with like an educational program. So I might help them out. It's really important for me to like be active in my community. I'm such an extrovert. And because my business is run remotely, I really try and get out and do other things with brands that I align with and people that I like just because like,

I don't like just sitting at home. Yeah. That's cool. That seemed, they seem like a good company and their bars are nice, obviously. So yeah, good stuff there. So15 by 20 well by 18 have you was that the most you've ever done of 315 yeah that's a lot that is a lot it was funny because it was kind of when I heard about Stan doing the rhino cage it was like six weeks away and so it was kind of random I just kind of went with it I was like that sounds like a cool goal that I would like to hit because I had done like 225 times 40 once so I was like maybe I'll try 315 times 20 that would be really impressive and then of course during it I was actually going overseas and then like on the I was in Australia so I had a long flight and my

I changed it from high bar to low bar and that day like if you watch it it's so bad like by rep three i am so slow i think it took me like three almost four minutes to do 18 reps it's a lot of a lot of squatting yeah i was so mad because i was like oh i really obviously all i had to do is two more. But my the bar was rolling back. It was like about to fall off. So I might try again next year. The Olympia this year is in Orlando, Florida. So I feel like I can still achieve if I actually train for it. So that's that's right. The Olympia is in Orlando, Florida.

I thought I heard that. And then I'm like, that can't be right. The Olympia is always in Vegas. So the Olympia is not in Las Vegas this next year no so it's still it's actually earlier too it's the first week in November I heard and I don't know how true this is but I heard they're gonna swap every year with it being in Orlando and Vegas I was not aware of that. Yeah. How do you think it'll be in Orlando then? It was supposed to be there right after COVID or maybe what, I think it might've been there for a year.

I can't recall. I mean, there's a big, you know, strength bodybuilding community out there too. I do think I'm kind of sad because I'd rather it be here in Vegas. I'll have to travel, but right. How do you like living in Vegas then?

Because Vegas is like, there is a, you know, this, this huge lifting community there, obviously with the Olympia always being there and like the bodybuilding scene. And also just like, I would say even the power lifting scene now and, uh, you know, the gym scene, you know, there's a lot of, uh, cool gyms there that people just want to go to. I mean, is, is that part of the draw to living there or is that more coincidental or so interesting interesting about vegas and everyone says this you would think it would have the best lifting community i don't know if it's just because i'm like i'm in my 30s compared to when i moved before and i was in my 20s but

i tried over 15 gyms here and Sin City Iron I'll drive a half hour to go there on like days I have to squat and deadlift I like it there and I met some friends but there is no lifting community and that's why people like it here though it's very big in bodybuilding because it's more of like a you know headphones on like eye contact very like people go to the desert you know to get like solitude they say but it is like i've had to really expand that's why i started my rocking group because i've never had a problem making friends in my life and i was like no one at the gym you know you know how for most gyms in the world you if it's like a lifting gym

you know you can go there at like friday at two or whatever the gym's time is in the spot you can get it that does not exist here so do you think that's interesting yeah do you think is that a las vegas thing or is that like the times are changing thing i think it's a las vegas thing because when i go to other gyms still visiting or when i see clients that no i think it's just a ve thing because when I go to other gyms still visiting or when I see clients that, no, I think it's just a Vegas thing. Okay. Yeah. Cause that's the, yeah, the community part about it is like kind of what I love.

Like that's like our, like mass dynamics gym. That's what, that's what I love about it. Like you show up on a Saturday morning and you know, it's just like, Oh, you're just, you know, like the serious lifting, but like the bullshitting and just like the fun you know the atmosphere the the yeah and i believe everything happens for a reason but when i first moved to vegas part of the you know of the draw and everything was because of my industry and i at the time had in my head my goal was to turn pro for women's physique because i wanted to be one of the first people to have a pro card in both. And then, you know, I'm from the East Coast, Boston, where like the bodybuilding crowd, like we're dirty and like we lift hard and we're not pretty. And then I came to Vegas and it's like, because it's the best bodybuilders in the world, it's like, they don't want to risk getting hurt.

Like they are very pretty. And I'm not talking negatively at all it's just it's a completely different culture bodybuilding in the northeast where I'm from versus completely different so it actually was a turnoff to me because I was like you know that's not me like I don't want to have to get dressed up to go to the gym here like right which is fine I'm not judging anyone but it's like social media come to life and like you you can't get a workout. Some of the bodybuilding gyms are the pros are you can't get a workout without like a whole film crew being there. And that's just not my scene. Right. I could see that for sure. I could, that would be that I will, that would not be preferable for myself. I don't think either the style that I would like enjoy that wouldn't be up my alley. That's interesting. That's interesting perspective on that that I hadn't thought of before. Something else cool that you've done that we wanted to ask you about is announcing events, almost being like, I don't know if announcer is the right word, or you're like the reporter, basically.

Announcer, commentator, yeah. Yeah. How did that come about, and what's that like like do you enjoy that is that cool that seems fun i love it that's my my childhood dream before athletics took over i wanted to be a news reporter when i was a baby like five years old i watched the nightly business report and i purposely tried not to have a boston accent like my mom did, went to school for journalism. And then that dream, I guess, just, you know, I don't want to say it faded, but it just kind of was on the sideline when athletics took over. And then I had interviewed at a few places before they told me

that I was like too big to be a reporter. So when I got the the redemption like when I was on ESPN for the first time I was very very happy because it's one of those moments like in the pursuit of happiness when Will Smith says like don't ever let anyone do something I felt like that I'm actually I have the Shaw Classic I'm doing WRPS and some um the American big ones coming up so my goal is to be like the strike the reporter for strength sports i want to be able to give people a voice because sometimes at like the arnold or really big events they have people that don't have any knowledge of they don't know shit about strong man they don't yeah exactly they don't know shit about strong man yeah yeah i have a dream to hopefully paint a picture and be able to showcase and ask the right questions and you know give the people give these strength athletes the opportunity

that they do so if i can help you know translate that passion through like a media outlet that would just that actually drive that drives me more now to do that than like my own athletic feet yeah that's that's uh really cool i could see that playing out that way too. I could see you be, you know, you having that role at, at events like that, which that would be cool because I agree. I don't really like when they have someone that doesn't know like that. It's yeah. They just pulled a relatively clueless. Right. And they give them like the quick two hour rundown and and say, all right, here, go do your thing.

Right. It's not authentic and you can tell. Or they always get the weights wrong. Like when I've watched over the years, they'll be like, oh, you were running with a 5,000-pound refrigerator. It's like, it was not 5,000 pounds. So you're doing the Shaw Classic then? I am. I can officially say it now.

I was keeping it in for a while but yes I am which I feel like that's my you know ESPN was obviously very big but yeah this is huge and I'm really excited that they have a woman doing it yeah for sure that's cool we we were really hoping to be there this year and uh have a booth because they're having a expo you know having vendors and stuff for the first time but didn't we weren't able to with our schedule but uh hopefully you do it again next year and we can watch you in action there what about uh at um uh have you at uh you probably mentioned but at the arnold you didn't do that this year at the arnold did you or were you doing it there at the arnold i was actually just just um so Dion Strongman Corporation president hired me to do like the media so I was just doing more like

social media stuff they wanted to do a live stream but with the service it just was a little unorganized so but I still could kind of consider that the same realm you know anything in the media like I I'd like right and then did, was it the ghost clash you were doing comment? Okay. So is there, so like with powerlifting versus strong man, like that is a very different, you know, it's a very different activity. There's a lot of different things. Is there one you prefer or like, if you had to commentate on like that you would prefer over the other? Well, I'm going to be biased obviously because strong man is like what i did and it's right it's more fun to speak on because it is changing so much but power lifting is a little bit easier i guess for most just like from

a data statistical standpoint because i can look at everyone's numbers and it's very easy to tell the audience like well this person is lifting x number their previous pr is this right but i feel like i have more personality with the strongman but both fun. Like I do get a rush out of both, especially interviewing athletes. Like after they do something crazy, that's the part I really like no matter when I feel like that's the same, it would be the same, whether I did it for like football or it's just like getting someone live yeah passion in their eyes is probably my favorite aspect that's cool do you feel like you get nervous for it like uh especially the first times or is it i feel like it comes pretty well i feel like it comes very natural

for me which i was surprised by because when i did espn i was a little nervous because there are certain things that people don't realize. Like I had my mic in the first time I'm live, like someone's screaming at us because of the technical errors. So trying not to show any like fluster. And then the only thing I get nervous for is sometimes people are so excited that I don't want them to say anything inappropriate. Like we had someone drop an F-bomb on ESPN. And, you know, I get yelled at, like, you an f-bomb on espn and you know i get yelled at like you need to control them but it's it's you know that part can be hard but no i

don't really get nervous so yeah and i think if you're you know fairly prepared that kind of takes care of like uh some of that nervous stuff anyways you know if you know if you know what you're doing like the nerves aren't as big as that nothingms that is like, like kind of knowing what you're doing, I think is what I feel like in that situation. Honestly, I kind of approach it like I did competing. Like I get really excited before and then like an hour or two before. And then right before I just try and like deep, you know, do some deep breaths and calm myself down. And then I feel very like honed in and almost hyper-focused. Yeah. Cool. We hope you see, see you doing more and more of that,

then that'll be cool. Uh, one of the things that I was most excited to talk to you about, because I think it's really cool is the new podcast that you have going, uh, that you and Christy are doing together. And is it just your second episode now that you've published? Yes. So we just published our second episode. So we have four recorded and we're trying to release every other Thursday. And I give you guys so much credit because, so we decided to start the podcast because, you know, Christy and I did the same thing for work.

And as you well know the social media algorithm has changed oh god yeah yeah and i don't want to be i'm not going to be negative because like we can't change social media but you know when i was like 25 and making content just doing cool stuff like christy and i were killing it just by being ourselves but now it's like i don't want to be someone i'm not just to push the please the algorithm yeah yeah so i'm like you know podcasts are going to appeal more to people that just aren't looking for a quick entertainment fix that actually want to learn and it kind of goes hand in hand with the media reporting gigs yep so yeah so we are on the like

we don't have a studio or any good equipment like you guys do we just have our laptops and i just got this mic oh there you go yeah yeah we got some of those yep yep that's a good mic to have uh i i thought it looked and you're i thought a a good thing that you're doing is it was in available in video right away off of the gate which i think uh you should be in it is in video on spotify which i think is is cool i like that and um i think it's good and i i like the name i think that that i think you chose a good name and it's is it because it's barbells business and boobs right yeah yeah you know we were we were stuck on the name for a while we have a whole list we kept going back and forth

and we wanted to be taken seriously so we didn't really want to use the boobs in there but then we were like you know what we still have to be a little clickbaity right yeah it's like the perfect yeah it is it's good that's i that is what it is it's, yeah, I get that too because you don't want to be clickbaity, but at the same time, you want people to click. Yeah. So it just reminds me of a name. I think this is what I told the Tommy. It just reminds me of the name of a podcast that has, you know,

if you're just looking at a name, like that's the name of a podcast that I could see being popular. You know, like it's a good uh I think that's a good choice I think it's good to include the boobs in there I I I'm glad you did that we figured and we did video too because Christy and I both are kind of exhausted from you know there's a part about making content that's part of my job that I love but like anything when I feel forced to do it I feel like that robs me of my creativity so we wanted to do videos so that we could literally

just use it on our Instagram because again I sometimes think about my business and I'm like okay what's gonna happen in 10 year years like I'll be 40 which not saying 40 years old but like am I still gonna be just filming myself lifting and making protein shakes and weird things outside? Like, I don't know. I'm sure I will, but I don't know if any 40 year olds are going to be drawn to that. Yeah. That is the thing you never know. Like, and we've talked about this before. It's like, everything has a shelf life, you know, everything like eventually you have to change, but yeah, you just, you never know when that is like, who knows when you're, when you're 45, people could be like, no, this is great. She's 45 and does this. Can you believe it?

Like it just come all the way back around. I would love, I told Christy, I was talking to you guys. We would love to do one together because. Oh yeah. Yeah. When we talked about it too, that we haven't had Christy on and we want to get her on too, but we also kind of wanted to get you each individually on too because you know some of us it's we've done it like say

with uh huck finn and uh tom callous they have a podcast together we've had them on individually and we've done it together with them too because it's both ways are different like when we talk to you personally we get to talk to you about a lot of more of the stuff that we talked to you tonight and when we do it together it's fun in a different way but we don't get as much of that like you know the actual personal stuff so it's cool so what do you

feel like you've recorded four episodes like we talk about it with our we've been doing it for a really long time and our original ones are awful in comparison you know I mean not that we're great at it now but it's just like kind of not the best but then they were really bad yeah right right so they certainly got better but it's just it's fun to look back on that do you feel like even four or five episodes

and you're already picking up on uh things that you're like ah this seems to work you know this is an avenue we can go down more like that feels awkward or uncomfortable are you learning stuff so far like that so we just decided that we're going to have like a like almost more of a system because we're trying to educate right so it's different when you're interviewing someone and it flows naturally we want to be able to like make points because one of our we were doing one the other day like like on online coaching and we, we hit the points, but I feel like now that I'm listening to more podcasts that are like educational, it's like, okay, you have to keep saying the points and like follow more of a guideline. So we're going to do that. And my favorite, we actually released one today that I think was really good. It was a fun one.

You know, some of them are a little, like when we were talking about injuries injuries and stuff that one kind of got a little dark because people like talked about how depressed we've gotten from them and stuff but today was it was a really fun one we did one today talking about how people can make money from social media and like the difference between influencing and sponsorship and how you pick working with brands so that was a really fun one because to this day like I'm still I'm really proud of myself that you know I don't come from that much I'm the first person in my family like go to college the fact that I like left my hometown and like make a living that my parents don't really even understand absolutely yeah it's like unconventional by older people's standards for sure yeah so that was fun today yeah that's cool and I I list I've

listened to the first episode and I liked it and you talked about I think somewhere in there you talked about uh both you talked about some of your ideas of future episodes that you're gonna gonna do and I'm like oh there's some really good topic ideas in there and like um do you feel like uh I don't know if taboo is the right word but you talked about some stuff you're going to talk that you're going to do in future episodes that like some people might choose they might be like i don't know if we want to talk about that yes we're definitely i mean i can be open on your podcast we definitely want to wait until we work out some of the kinks but we're going to do an in-depth steroid one because we both feel we have a similar mindset on

it and I feel like everyone's talking about it now yeah and there's some really bad information out there so I want to talk about that yeah and it's really we almost get like a rush out of it because I have to be careful because it's like okay by me talking about this this is now me literally committing to only working for myself for the rest of my life. Because once it's out there, it's out. And that is frowned upon, you know, in the business world. Right, right, right. Uh, yeah, yeah, no, that's cool. I'll be excited to listen to those. And something else you guys brought up was talking about, uh, breast augmentation, uh, decisions and stuff like that for women in lifting, which from the average dude's perspective, they have a different take on it. But actually, women that are in the sports and competing in it, it would be interesting to hear your guys' take on what it means, why you do it, why you don't do it, all that stuff.

That's how we originally started the podcast. Christy and I, we were doing ESPN together. Um, when was April? And we noticed that all the women just kept asking us like in person, like, can we ask you guys something? So we were like, why don't we just do an Instagram live? And then we did an Instagram live and people were like, you guys should start a podcast. So I texted Christy.

I'm like, Hey, you want to just start a podcast? Yeah, that's cool. Awesome. Well, so you're doing every other week.

That's the plan. Every other Thursday. That's the plan. We're trying to release. We try to record every Monday or Wednesday, depending on our schedules and then release every other Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. I think as long as you can stick to try to keep and then release every other Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. I think as long as you can stick to trying to keep pumping them out every other week,

that's the bit, that's the, probably the hardest part for everyone that does it is just like, uh, sticking, sticking to it because it seems like the recipe is there for it to be, uh, work out really well for you. So as long as you can keep doing it, I think it'd be awesome. Thank you. Yeah. I think like anything, just being consistent. And I told her that she's the only woman or only person or friend, even I would do any type of business with, cause I know she's just like me where she has like

workaholic tendencies and she wants to be good. Cause I didn't want to, I was the girl, you know, in high school and college that like did all the, like there was a group project. I did it all. And I, you all and I you know I have clients to take care of and responsibilities and a roof to keep over my head so I wanted this project to be fair and it's perfect because she is like amazing like she was a former she went to art school so she did the graphics she's a little more tech savvy than me even though she doesn't think she is she is So she figured out like what platform we like the best that I do more of like the writing parts of it and like the outlines. So.

Yeah, that's good. That's what you need in a party. Like you need someone that like can balance you out and have some things that you don't have. And that's, that's the best way to do it. We went a different approach. We're just like both bad at everything. And then you have long hair. I do i do too okay i think that's something right oh you guys are doing awesome i'm gonna have to get some offline tips from you because we're using something called riverside and for the life of us we can't figure out like apple podcast we can only figure out spotify and youtube yeah we've been down that road we do yeah we've got

some experience in that stuff and where tommy is definitely you know you said christy is tech savvy tommy is definitely the tech savvy one of us but we have uh i've even experienced enough of it that i have have some uh we struggle we had some struggles with riverside too but a lot other people use it effectively uh you know i know like uh jim mcd uh and mike silent mike they use it uh 50 facts and they use it and have had success with it. And a few other ones that have, so I think it can be made to work, but it didn't work very well for what we were trying to do.

I would say that. The other day we were recording an episode in like eight minutes through. It just like stopped working. So we had to like redo it. And I feel like that kind of, you know, how we just kills. It kills. That sucks. Yeah. Now I i'm like acting to to say the thing before now we're just repeating the things we said

naturally but now it's like we and i know what you're gonna say and you know what i'm gonna say exactly we might redo that one because then it felt forced and it was a sad episode anyways so we've been kind of lucky that there's in like 377 episodes, we've maybe had to, we've had to do that. Well, the worst ever, probably the biggest mistake we ever made is there was one episode Tanner was on with Jonathan. I think we were 25 minutes in before I realized we never hit record.

And then it was like, okay, here we go. So yeah, that sucked. But yeah. Besides that, nothing too major as far as problems go yeah uh learning process yeah yeah now so you uh offer coaching obviously and another interesting thing uh that i we saw when we were looking is you had like you and we were talking about here but you you were advertising your uh vegas rucking meetup so is that what you were talking about the bi-weekly thing or is this more of a specific

event that like people could sign up for so this is just a free event i do just to make friends okay everything in vegas like i went to a few groups networking groups everything is so salesy here and where i have to be salesy online I wanted something just authentic and I've met really cool like I've met all walks of life like one time I had and it was 5 a.m I was like no one will come I had like 20 people one was a guy from Portugal that was traveling the world some was like some 50 year old woman who just got divorced and I had a bunch of like young kids, younger kids, like in their twenties that just left the military.

So it was really cool to have such a melting pot. So no, I don't, I just do that for, for companionship to meet people. And yeah, I'm just someone I'd like, I keep myself busy. I like to be doing multiple at once. Okay. Well, that's cool. I don't know if i if i could do that i'd be too one do you be too curious about who's gonna show up and what you know what if it's gonna be weird or not you know i'd be like oh i don't know who's gonna be there it was so funny because i'm so used to being alone in the morning and like i'm a morning person but not when it comes to talking

to people so when i did the five we had we had to be we had to meet up at like 5 a.m so I woke up at like 4 20 to be there because sunrise and at the top because sometimes I do like a little like guided meditation nothing crazy and I was like oh maybe we can just skip this today you know it's pretty early and then some people like no we really want you to do it so I'm like okay okay we have this uh game we play with every guest that we have on called overrated, underrated, and we've got a special handpicked set of Brittany diamond topics just for you that we're going to read off to you. And it's your job to decide if each one is overrated or underrated. The most important thing you have to remember though, is that you can't ride the line. You have to definitively definitively say if each one is overrated or underrated.

Okay. So my opinion of it, right? Yeah. Just your opinion. Like, however you want to, people look at it a different way. Sometimes people say like, uh, what do I like? Here's what I think people think of it. So is it overrated or underrated?

And how people think? Right, right, right. Yes. Okay. So overrated or underrated and i'm going to change one or two of these because we kind of talked about it uh some of them a little bit already so i'm going to change overrated or underrated uh the state of rhode island underrated okay so you live you are not you are massachusetts is where you live but you

went to college in rhode island yeah and i lived there after i went to massachusetts for a while and then i lived in rhode island for like a little bit i actually lived in the woods pretty much alone with my dog in rhode island i thought i was staying there forever but that's a story for a different day so there are woods in rhode island though yeah oh yeah there's so much so much i just assumed how small it was. It was just like one giant city. That's my assumption. No, I was like Walden out there. I just rocked with Rosie in the woods every day. It felt like we were in the middle of nowhere, but we were in a small state.

So what college was it in Rhode Island then that you went to? University of Rhode Island. Okay. Is that where, I don't know if you know him, but well, Brandon Diamond. You're not related to him, I assume, right? No. Because he's also from Rhode Island, so that would be a small world. No, no relation. Okay, but he went to, we've had him on the podcast.

I know he flies one of the Rhode Island college flags. See, I couldn't tell you where he went to. Okay, okay. All right. Overrated or underrated, hercules hold underrated too oh it's so awesome i wish they had more of that stuff so was grip uh are you are you were you kind of good at all the grip events or i mean is that a strong point for you yeah i i believe because and even now after having wrist, my grip is still really strong.

Everyone automatically thinks that you must have huge hands. And then my hands are pretty tiny. I think because I was a rower and like we have to turn the oar a certain way. So and then like we would actually do a lot of rice buckets and like forearm training. So I think doing that for four years really helped me. And then just having the course like so it's it's a lot of core too. People don't realize that. Yeah, that was definitely, I've never lost ever a Hercules hold. I've had three of them at high levels and I always easily won. So is that your favorite Strongman event or do you have anything you'd place above that? Stones are my favorite.

Okay. Yeah. That's a good one to have as your too because that's the whole deal strongman is like lifting a stone up and that's why i still do it i call it like odd lift du jour where i just go out and like lift rocks i mean that's exactly what the appeal to strongman is so okay so overrated or underrated. Um, this is a song and I assume you'll have it. You assume that based on something I saw that you'll have an answer for this and it'll mean something to you. But if not,

let me know. We'll change it. Overrated or underrated hunger strike by temple of the dog. Oh yeah. Yeah. Underrated. I love that. I feel like all my answers have been underrated.

Yeah. That's a really special song to me. okay because you want me to elaborate well you had I just thought that was a really interesting song that you had because you had a like your posing routine to that song and I'm like oh that's a cool like that's I wouldn't be the song I would initially think of as a posing routine for that and I just I thought that was cool yeah so the song is actually a deal with the lyrics it's about like slavery and being held captive um but I didn't know that when I was a little girl and I remember so my mom's obsessed with like that grunge or rock like pearl jam and like audio sleep jamming out and I was born in 1992 and my mom got divorced and for a while it was just me and her

and I just remember her like being a strong ass bitch like I remember like everything in her day would go wrong and she was like struggling to keep afloat but she always made sure like me and her had fun so she had this Camaro and we would blast that song and no matter what she was just always so happy so when I did bodybuilding it was just a journey that it felt different than strongman like because I didn't necessarily want to do bodybuilding I just kind of wanted to prove to myself I could and so yeah I surprised her with that song like I wouldn't tell her what the song was she was trying to guess she was nowhere close she's like oh it's Christina Aguilera it's Lady Gaga and so yeah so being able to pose for that song like yeah it just it was really I actually want to get a tattoo of

it but yeah and it was so funny because people were trying to figure out what the song meant and I remember someone was like oh it's because you were hungry. I get it. You're in a cut. No. Too literal. Yeah. Because I think for me, it just meant like losing ego and like not really caring what anyone thought and just marching to the beat of your own drum. I think picking the posing routine song would be the funnest part about bodybuilding. It was. It was.

That was the one thing at first I never in my life, because, you know, I did strongman and strength sports. We didn't look in the mirror. I didn't care what I really looked like. And so it was different to focus on that aspect of it. But I, yeah, I fell in love with the posy routine because I never thought I'd be able to get half naked on stage and like, essentially you're like dancing. Right. That's a weird thought. I mean if you think about it like that and then getting judged for it too yeah exactly but I tried to make mine you know non-sexual like very beautiful and it's the first thing I can say because usually you look at yourself and you judge yourself you know you're a reverse critic but like

I can look back on my posing routine and I think I owned it so yeah proud of that right on okay last one and last one's always worth all the marbles so very important your decision on this one overrated or underrated the ninja creamy I think is is that what it's called the ninja yeah I think it's overrated if you pay full price how much is it you gotta get the deal uh I think it's likerated if you pay full price. How much is it? You got to get the deal. I think it's like $200 if you go on Amazon. Yeah. So the $200 is the full price or that's the deal?

Yeah, that's the full price. Okay. Okay. So is it, it's just, it's, it's basically like an ice cream maker then, right? Or like what is the Ninja Creamy? It's basically like an ice cream maker then, right? Or like what is the Ninja Creamy? So it is kind of magical in the sense that like you make a protein shake taste like ice cream.

I haven't tried it with like a full fat one yet. I'm going to do that next week with my friends visiting. So we're going to do like, you know, like real cream and like real candy. I've only made it with like protein shakes and stuff like that. And the reason I'm saying it's underrated, like it's cool. But like if you're in the mood for ice cream, you just want ice cream. You have to like really plan it out because you have to like put it in the freezer cup, like six to eight hours before, then take it out. So it defrosts. So I don't know if that's kind of why I would say it's underrated. But so do you, do you like routinely make shakes with it though? Like,

does it make good protein shakes though like does it make good protein shakes it does make really good protein shakes but usually I put my protein shakes in like my oats or my cream of rice yeah if you're a bodybuilder on prep it's definitely probably perfect because yeah yeah an essential tool for that job I I could see that. But right now I don't just eat protein shakes, luckily. Right. Oh, good news. It looks like you passed overrated, underrated. So congratulations.

It's a big deal. Can you fail? Nobody has yet, but it's possible. It is a pass-fail course, and you did pass. If someone fails, we always say that means we're not going to air the episode. So lucky for you, you passed and we are going to publish this one then. So this wasn't, this wasn't all just for hanging out and talking to us for like an hour for no

good reason. So yeah. Yeah. Yes. Red lights. Thank God. Yeah. That I bet that'll happen to you someday. You'll be like, you'll be like that far into it. And you like, oh, great. We forgot to record. I'll think of you guys and I'll let you know. Yeah. So where do people find you, check you out if they want to ask you about coaching or anything else that they should ask you about? What do they need to do? they should ask you about where do they what do they need to do instagram and facebook it's just be dimes those are my pages i don't do tiktok or any of that stuff i've tried i can't do it so yeah instagram is probably the best yeah we're older we're not we're not 18 it's tough yeah it's tough

it's uh it's a young kid's game right right it's like back in my day we just had instagram like god intended we just took pictures i know yeah okay cool well i think this is awesome i think people are going to enjoy this a lot and we really appreciate you coming on and uh and doing this with us yeah thanks for having me guys thank you yeah if you've ever uh if you've ever got any questions for us we probably don't have good answers, but we'll, we'll do our best to help. Sounds good.

Yeah. And I would love to come up there at some time in my life. Open invitation, Massanomics gym. We also tell every guest they do get a free day pass to Massanomics gym. So that's also a really great reward for being on the show. You know, it'd be cool if you record with Christy

and then us both come up together. That would be a goal. Yeah, absolutely. That would be awesome. Film some stuff in the gym too. I don't know. South Dakota, you might not want to come in January. It's a little bit different than California and Las Vegas.

I actually like the cold and the snow. I miss it. It's going to be weird when I go home and like do see snow again, but no, I love, I love that. I love cold weather. Well, we got lots of it here, so you would love it here. That'd be your favorite place. Yes. Awesome. Well, we appreciate it. That'll be, that'll be fun. And we'll be, uh, we'll be excited to watch, uh, watch your podcast. Keep taking off. Thank you guys. Have an awesome night. Yeah. It's super late there, isn't it? 10 30. Yeah. You guys have to go to bed. Yeah. It's past our bedtimes, but we do we're, we make it happen once a week where we've off our sleep schedule.

Well, thank you. Thanks for all right. Thank you. See ya. Bye. thanks for all right thank you see ya bye all right tommy i almost hit leave meeting there i was about very close to hitting that button first um speaking of hitting the wrong button before i forget before i forget i was um she said she likes it cold so So it's cool beans. Yeah. Those are frosty Northeast South Dakota beans. Um, I was this five minutes into her interview, having a mild panic attack because for the first time ever, I had a red blinking screen or a podcast board here and elected. Oh, I forgot to erase the card before we got started. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And so this part right now is just going to be coming from the zoom recording which luckily we have oh otherwise otherwise that's fine i don't think there's a way while you're recording on on the road board to delete old things right i think you'd have to right and i don't think you can i don't think you can selectively delete episodes and maybe there's a way we always just that'll be fine that won't matter for so this this people listening right now this might not sound quite as good as normal because it's going to be coming through zoom but you know it's funny most people they won't know this the difference they won't yeah listening on

like your speaker on your iphone now that you probably won't but uh we're talking about all these things like oh yeah you mess up a lot and then like literally while it's going on i'm like i'm messing up right now so real life example we just wanted to make the example really real yeah super relevant yeah yeah uh that was fun she was a she was a good guest uh that that'd be something if those two came here to train at mass economics gym for a day yeah oh yeah it'd be fun i mean we could we don't mean we make a ton of content for sure yes yes, yes. We encourage anyone that ever wants to come up to Western Northeast South Dakota either just to check out the gym, to hang out a little bit, or if you're into the content game sort of thing,

we're working with some other people. There might be something coming up in the not-too-far future with that. We welcome all oncomers, especially since we've expanded our YouTube game and are putting out videos every week with that. Like it offers us an additional opportunity to make something out of it for ourselves. So hopefully you see more and more of things like that happening in the future too.

Yep. Got to keep feeding that content machine, right? Yeah. Like Grant always likes to tell me though, he's like kudos to you on the lift hard leave easy classic and getting all those people to come there because aberdeen is the hardest place to get to he's like i mean this as a compliment aberdeen is so hard to get to i know i know when you told

me that i thought it was funny and then i told my wife and she was like yeah it is insane yes yes it is you got to try you don't get you don't wind up here on accident no no you do not get there an accident although you get there an accident is like you're leaving uh i don't know northeastern minnesota and coming yeah going west maybe if maybe if you're like pain stewart i think you wound up here so there was someone that got there an accident and uh that's a very little dark but yeah that's a very deep dark joke right there actually very deep dark dark humor that most people would get but you just google pain stewart and you figure out the rest speaking of deep dark jokes there's been a lot of uh a lot of jokes and memes about the sub thing the last day here. I was thinking of making one for tomorrow morning. I was thinking of,

here's the joke. It's a picture of the sub, and then it's like, got five openings left for, and then what's five douchey type people, gym stereotype people, where you're like, looking for the next five uh um

you know what i you know what i'm saying do you do you understand like i got five open seats like uh coach coach uh i only have five pro five spots left for my program and it's like the program and it's a picture of the sub ah yes yes right right like that yeah but yeah yeah i like that actually people that is that's a very trendy meme at the moment is tragic as it is that is a that is a trendy meme i the funniest one i saw so far i think what is just a picture of a titanic you've probably seen this one and it had like the death count of whatever it was and then it was crossed off in like a red marker and then the number was five higher oh i did i did not see that one i'm like it's a little too soon for that but also like

it made me laugh out loud too like i mean that's so weird though like it is tragic without a doubt right right like that would be but it's also a joke right now at the same time i know like it's just so absurd in every way like yes it is tragic no one should ever have to have a family member die in like a tragic accident especially right something that's weird and crazy like this but at the same time like this thing is so insane like you have you're going down that far in like this sketchy ass submarine to go look at the titanic like no we get don't we have videos of that that did that for you it's that's man would you ever want to go in a submarine is that like on your to-do list ever no me either you could not uh you

couldn't pay me uh i mean you could actually there is a number but um to be fair you there there is a big enough number out there that you could pay me to do that but no i do not want to do that it's also mind-blowing to me that there's a whole branch of the military that just has people that are hiding in submarines all over the earth. That would be awful. Is that just insane, though? That would be hell to me. Especially as a larger-than-average-sized person.

You know things aren't made for... Not that I'm a giant. Hath bjornson but like just being like even six three like i feel like i feel like that's not accommodating to that it's just what my assumption is and uh no i don't i'm not claustrophobic but i also don't want to be in i don't want to i would be sitting there thinking like where's our air going like and where the hell on earth are we right now and how far away is the surface like if we died would anyone really even know besides like the one military base that knows where we're at and i just don't like i don't want to be in close

quarters with that many people for that long it's just like being on an airplane where i'm like i don't want i'm i like the three hour breathing in the same air that we're all breathing in together here for this amount of time. I'm like, that doesn't seem healthy or good. Yeah, so submarines, overrated. It's like the Beatles said one time. We all live in a yellow submarine. That's deep. Get it?

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bit in the middle of overrated underrated or did you you guys were still talking when i came back so i didn't i didn't see you freeze but i guess okay i have to i have to the way i record for zoom you can only record the screen of whoever's talking unless you pin that screen okay so i pin her so it's large so you're such a tiny little thing yeah i wouldn't have noticed so there was never uh there was never a time when you thought like oh i'm surprised tanner's not responding to something because i think it was like the second over under this would be interesting for any everyone listening because they would have just listened to this i think it was a response to the second over under i froze for almost a whole thing and i came back and you guys were

still talking and then i just being the professional that i am i just said all right next you know i was just like no like i i never noticed anything yeah yeah because i was worried you guys were like oh is he there where's you know what's he doing and uh rolling with the punches i i didn't see anything uh that's that's how professional we are here we mess a couple things up here you don't even know it other than freezes i forget to clear space on my card you know all that yeah we have several other topics here today um i did have an interesting piece of taco john's news that I guess maybe timely in a way. So I want to get it out there.

And it is Taco John's, so that's important. And this came to me from a meat director of the Lift Hard, Leave Easy Classic. It's Big Dave, resident of Fargo, North Dakota, our neighbors to the north. Here not too far, just a jaunt up the interstate from us. And we've had Fargo Taco Johns before, if you remember the last meet that we did there. Big Jonathan Oldham. Jonathan, after driving through 30 other places,

finally arrived at Taco Johns. Yeah, because for some reason everything was closed in Fargo. All the nearby places were. After a point in time that the pandemic was not relevant anymore. Yeah, that was a very odd thing to think about. And he got us some Taco Johns, so we were able to OLE, pandemic was not relevant anymore. That was a very odd. Yeah, that was, yeah. And, uh, he got us some taco John. So we got our,

we, we were able to lay the day thing, thankfully. Um, but Dave hit me with some disturbing news, very disturbing taco John's news. There was, uh,

he sent me the article link to this and I had to even do a little research on it there. I believe Fargo had five taco john's locations yeah had five taco john's locations and they're all eight now they're all gone zero what they all closed what yeah they all closed wow which uh and he had said they'd been like drive-through only like they never came like stopped being drive-thru only, I think. Really? And he said like on the same, they all closed. And I saw the news stories and the pictures. They all had like taped marker signs that were like closed for business.

That's just bad management, right? It has to be. I assume they're owned by the same person. I'm like, Taco John's isn't doing bad business. Like Taco John's have to make money everywhere you know like have you ever been to a taco john's and not have the drive-thru line be i mean you know i mean like they're i would say if there's a home run around here it's that yeah like they especially thrive in smaller areas too right because right not as many places will go there like now i definitely live in a bigger market where there's 10 billion choices right but there's probably several taco johns yeah but there's taco

johns around there's actually it's the the closest fast food place to me is there's a there's a a burger king and across the street is a taco johns i will put an asterisk on it though and say that that taco johns is in a gas station which talking with talking with my wife is like why is it that you can take a taco johns and you don't think it's gross at all and then the second it's in a gas station no yeah i'll pass but yeah i mean there's taco john's around i if they started closing in sioux falls i would be totally shocked yeah and possibly the most interesting thing i picked up in those new articles is the reporters couldn't confirm this, but they had reports that the employees

need not be worried because the Taco John's owner was in talks with the company that owns Papa John's in Fargo and that owns Papa John's in Fargo and that the Papa John's locations would be able to absorb any employees looking for a job. So that made me wonder if the Johns are in cahoots between taco and Papa that, that, and this is real.

I'm not making this up, but it said that, that Papa John, that it sounded like the papa john's restaurants would be able to absorb the taco john's employees wow i mean it just kind of just seems like easier like now just to run your taco john's like all the other ones that make money but yeah i guess yeah yeah i was looking here this article from the uh i don't know, somewhere in Fargo in forum. It says they, what was I looking at here?

The number of taco Johns. Where did it go? Where'd it go? I lost it. I can't find it. They had the total number of taco Johns. Oh, here we go. Okay. Taco Johns, 370 restaurants in 23 states.

That's not a small franchise. No. That's a lot. That's something. Not in Fargo, though, apparently. No, I feel sorry for those sons of guns up there. How are they supposed to allay the day? I guess they'll have to just think about the Taco Tuesdays of the past

because they can't have that anymore. Christmas is going to be a little sadder around there with no nachos navidad. The chips will be a little less festive this Christmas. Santa apparently figured that Fargo is on the naughty list this year, it sounds like. They'll just be dreaming of Whiplash the Cowboy Monkey. All the rest of us get to live live that whiplash life yes did you have uh yeah i mean you have several things here that i don't know what any of them are so we can probably talk about them none of these are time sensitive at all i'm talking about food you know what one thing that did after my trip that i'm kind of shocked that does not exist in our

part of the country at all is grits i can't believe that grits just do not do not exist i could actually couldn't even give you it if you asked me a week ago what grits were i couldn't even give you an honest answer like i have no idea i'm soured on grits because they had those in all the military chow halls and it was just slop it was i'm sure they're not good grits i'm sure they were like the most subpar grits that exist but i'm like i would take oatmeal a thousand times over grits and the i guess the times i had i am by no means a grits i've had now i had grits like three times in my life yeah and to me it's just like it's like a creamy cornbread basically like that's yeah um i'm just soured honestly i i really

think i'm just soured on it from like the chow hall oh and i could totally see how they had some bad like soupy gross ones or a lot of them too how it could gross you out but man after having that i'm like i do not get how that just doesn't like absolutely. Oh, it doesn't at all. Like you don't go. That doesn't live in Aberdeen and say, let's go to a restaurant. You have to find me a restaurant with grits. I'll give you $10,000. You just have to say it's not one.

You wouldn't even have to think about it. You just say, well, I just can't win this prize. Right. I don't even know living in Sioux Falls. That's what I was going to say in Sioux Falls. I'm sure it exists somewhere, but I'd have to do some major looking, though, to find a place that has it. Right.

Oh yeah, for sure. It does not exist. Yeah. That was my first exposure to it is when I went to basic training and that was one of the men, you know, daily menu items. I'm like, this is crap. Who's eating this? It's garbage. This is garbage food.

This isn't food. This is garbage. Bring me the vomlet. Come on. Bring me the Mre vomlet now i would probably take grits uh chow hall grits over the vomlet the vomlet has is still in a class of its own in my opinion yeah uh what did we get to eat that day i can't what did we get sent i can't even remember the meal now was it like oh we we like something beef? We each had a meal.

Yeah, you had the beef patty, I think, probably. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So we talked about the Jefferson deadlift competition quite a bit. Yeah, be on the lookout on Instagram for that. The official starting post, but we kind of talked about those dates.

And it's going to – there's a couple about those dates. The dates cover two weekends there. We wanted it that way so it gives you optimal chances. So people can start a peak and really prepare and peak for this, right? You have blocks and phases all around this Jefferson Deadlift competition. We wouldn't give you enough time to have a hypertrophy phase, a strength phase, and a peaking phase to this competition. All around this competition. That's so we gave you two weeks yeah the the highest paid will be uh the heaviest we'll get but there's several other awards you know you don't have to be have you don't have to

have a huge number in order to win anyone could win because it's a random drawing for three of those and you know what maybe i thought about people have brought it up at some point in time should even ask britney about it if she's ever tried a jefferson deadlift but i should start a top 10 women's jefferson deadlift all-time list we should we should you know that would be fun or maybe even just start with the top five and just start building from there but the problem is like right now i'm like i just need five to do it and put like i guess this contest could be the starting point assuming we get like five women to even do it i'm like i guess this contest could be the starting point assuming we get like five women to even do it i'm like well there you go you're on the record until someone can

tag me in a video of uh it being larger than that like you you started the record book as far as i uh we're concerned at this point that's kind of how the leaderboard almost started the first time wasn't it yeah sort of actually i was able to find this weird uh lifting federation that contests like 300 lifts and they had a few jefferson lifts in there so i was able to put those on there as a starting point but we've since exceeded that none of those old recorded jefferson records are even on our 10 top 10 lists anymore because they've all been surpassed by because of you know because of our peer pressure on the world because of that yeah honestly that's a big part of it become a supporting member if you're interested in it we'd love to have you if you've been listening for a long time maybe you're

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uh they maybe have a family member that likes to buy merch you could also become a supporting member i don't know if we have time for this but did you say you were reading a book oh oh i did finish a book on the plate okay right i did finish i i can't remember if i brought this one up man search but do you need to specifically enter this uh as a segment here if you're going to talk about well okay is this sports and books i'll do a very this will be a very bridge version because okay and i went to the nationals game so we talked about sports all right so we got sports so now sports and books? This will be a very bridge version. I went to the Nationals game, so we talked about sports. All right, so we got sports. So now sports and books.

We're finishing up right now. Did I tell you this as a book to put on your list, Man's Search for Meaning? I couldn't remember. No, you didn't, but then someone in the Discord had said it, and I've got a little list going, and I had written it down, and then you said... It's one of those books that comes up as you know, as one of those, uh, you know, all time.

Right. And that's kind of what I'm, that's kind of what I want right now. So I'm like, ah, yes, this fits perfectly into what I want. I mean, it's like 170 pages. It's such a quick read. Uh, but what's, I'm almost tempted to restart it because what I did is I was reading this book when I actually found my list to show how much of a reading streak I was on in 2019. I was keeping track of all the books I was reading and when I finished them and I found my list that I had saved. And from January to June of 2019, I had read like 14 books. Like that feels like a reader at that point, doesn't it? That was, oh yeah. I couldn't believe it when I saw that. Like you're reading a book a month. That's a lot

of books. I couldn't believe that. Like, and then there was there was a few audio books in there too which I'm I'm counting the mix but um 14 books I was like damn 14 in six months who the hell was that guy I didn't I thought my best I did 14 in a year even like well and actually that my best I did do 14 a year because then you stopped and I looked it was it was the year we when I moved into my my new house at the time you know we moved to studio 3.0 or whatever yeah it was we moved everything got packed away i unpacked the stuff i never never opened a book basically again after that and just quit reading right um so i had started man search for meaning i'd read like the first 130 pages probably over the course of like four days or so

and then closed it never opened it again and we've been talking about books i'm like i'm going on a trip what better time to read than on vacation so i went into the garage i found the tote full of books i grabbed it out the bookmarker was in there i'm like all right we're gonna pick right up where we left off and like i'm reading it i'm like dude i do not remember like so much of this and what so the the book it's about a guy he gets he gets you know he has to go to the concentration camps he's he's a jew in nazi germany or austria i can't remember where he was now i did go tying that in i did go through the um did you go to the holocaust museum okay yeah that was yeah i i remember when you're in high school your level of uh oh empathy and care for everything is fairly

low you just don't get it you don't have that life perspective but even then i'm like damn this is pretty heavy i remember thinking that in high school and now oh i could see how that'd be a really tough one to go through now it is it's it's uh you go in that room that has all the shoes and everything in it yeah yeah yeah it's intense it is it's a it's heavy yeah you get done with that when you're like i don't even know can i go on with the rest of my day or right right is it okay right right right yeah so the it's about this he's a psychiatrist i think he's a psychiatrist see See, and this is where I'm screwed myself because I don't remember that. Well, the first, like the first half of the book

is about him and his experience with other people in the concentration camps. And then like the last third, last half of the book is him afterwards. And, you know, him and his, his practice of being a psychologist or psychiatrist whatever it is but i didn't realize because it's been so long i didn't realize that that that it switched over so i'm like reading it like where does the camp part come out i didn't realize i got past all that so i did that was not the ideal way to read that book is to is to read the first two-thirds of it and then uh take a four-year break and then finish it finish up like a chapter like you'd never left it so yeah i can definitely see how that book would be

very profound for a lot of people um but yeah i definitely did not give myself any favors the way i read it yeah yeah it is a quick i mean it's a quick read though it's it's a little book with i mean not a ton of text in the like you can fly through that thing yeah i read on i did the same thing on flights i was reading you know flights were a great time for me to read and uh yeah so i hammered through quite a well now that's actually not that's being way over generous i hammered through some of uh uh atlas shrug so i think i've read like 140 really of the tiny little pages now that's a lot of that's like that's like it's 10 percent regular pages that'd be like a thousand regular books that's yeah so i've read like 10

of the book and still i don't have an it's just a story to me at this point you know i just uh okay at this point 140 pages in do you feel like this needs to be this long or do you like you're saying get i feel like i can't understand how it possibly can be i feel like i don't understand how it possibly could be as long as it is being this much into it i mean it's not a bad book so far it's just uh it's just a it's just a novel that i'm reading at this point but it's only be 10 in is you know that's a lot of books you're on page 30 i'd be half done getting started you know that's there's nothing to it right yeah yeah no it's uh i'm interested i bet i don't you know i've maybe just at the very starting to be able to even pick up on where some of the symbolism could even go

like it's just like still it's almost like still just like introducing the characters at 150 pages in kind of is what it feels like. So, okay. And then did you also that speaking of sports and books? That's what I wanted to say. If you carry around that book, there's no conversation starter like carrying around that book. Everyone that walked by me wanted to interrupt me and asked me what I thought of the book. Really? Yes.

Like everyone wanted my like that. I'm like, or everyone's like oh what are you reading it's so it's so obnoxiously fat it's like who's the bible right right and uh the number of people that i that i actually couldn't read as much as i wanted to because on the planes would want to ask me what i think of it so far and i'm like i don't know i'm like 100 pages in i can't even barely tell you what it's like even even remotely what it's about yet. So I just don't know. But on the one flight on my last flight though, two other bit of interesting thing I did, uh, was a kid, 18 years old. And, uh, we, he ended up asking me a lot of questions. He was a bright kid. He started, it started to him asking me about the book, but

we ended up talking so long about massonomics. It was probably the best flight ever. He wanted to know all about, you know, he was, he's pretty, you know, he understood tick tock and social media and all that stuff. And he knew who like Ronnie Coleman and Michael Hearn was. And he goes to the gym a little, you know, he goes to the gym and lifts and works out. And so he was super curious about massonomics and all that stuff. So it was a, it was a fun fun hour-long massonomics discussion.

So you're running the whole sales pitch given the history. Yes, yes, yes. So that was fun. And you were going to tell me something, but everything's led into three more things. So have you started meditations yet then? No, I haven't.

Because when we left, I was like, it was either two things. I'm either going to really dive into this or I could probably read meditations on this trip, but I really just wanted to, now I've got kind of a stranglehold on starting,

uh, Atlas shrug. So now I feel like I, at some point in time I could go to meditations and feel like I'm not going to get that. Like I'm not going to forget what I'm. Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. So yeah, I'm probably going to read that pretty soon now and maybe can give a good sports and book update on that. Yeah. I'll be looking forward to your recap yeah i'll see if i can keep uh keep trying i still have to finish i'm so close to being done with the scientific principles of strength training i've had that on the back burner for so long um i'll finish that one of these days here though, but I feel like at this, Oh, okay. Along those same lines, I'm probably late to the party here, but the videos that Mike

is, or tell does of, Oh yeah, God, the videos critiquing Hollywood training programs. Have you watched those ones? Uh, yeah, I've seen some of that stuff. Yes. Those are so funny. Those are so good. And Mike has some of the best stuff oh the way that guy is i imagine they could if they feed those guys if they have like a list of just training programs

for him to watch they could probably sit down and i'm sure he could knock out like 10 of those videos in like two hours and those videos get so many views too and they're hilarious too like he's always oh like talking about whoever he hams it up so much on all those it's hilarious he's good uh i don't know if you've ever looked at the analytics but him being on not too long whenever he was on recently with us within the last 10 weeks that is a very popular downloaded episode it is but and the other thing i love about it though is what he does so good is he'll be like okay the trainer will be like okay so up next we needed to get so-and-so really strong you know they really needed a strong posterior chain so here we are

working um hip thrusters and so he'll pause the video and be like okay nothing wrong with a hip thruster but you just said your goal is to have the strongest posterior chain. Yeah. There's 50 exercises. Starting with the hip thruster. There's 50 exercises you could pick that would hit this so much stronger. And like the way he just breaks down, like, okay, someone says we pick this exercise because of this.

And he says, okay, well, if that was really your goal, this exercise does not hit those muscles. The way you sit, like, I feel like you could justification he has for stuff. It's just like, it it's hard to argue with a lot of people could listen to those and be like

oh actually if that's how that works training makes way more sense now you know the time right okay we had him do this and we had to they had to be really strong in every position so we had him hold this hold this thing like they're holding a sword and he's like or you could just swing the damn sword and get strong at moving the sword he's like isometrics are almost always terrible for building strength you know what's good for building strength doing things that require your muscles to move you know like oh yeah like this i mean people know this but like hearing a guy explain it so because he can explain things so simple you know in such simple terms like concisely and just where you're like, I guess I feel dumb for not understanding that

like you understand it. It's funny the way he does it too. Those videos are great. Pretty much all of his stuff is gold. I agree for those reasons. Become

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