Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 378: Lindsay Gray

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Big Lindsay Gray (@Lindsayloves2lift) joins us for this one to talk meet prep for the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic. We also talk Ohio/Florida geography and foot fashion.  Don't miss our new drop which includes the blue Jefferson Deadlift tee and the Lift tanktop! Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://store.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! Welcome back, everyone. side everything massonomics welcome back everyone to episode 378 of the massonomics podcast the lifting podcasts about nothing recorded live from western northeast south dakota and eastern southeast south dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy and tommy this is 378 you know why that's important right uh I mean there's a lot of reasons but why don't you tell me the most important reason I was actually hoping you had a reason that it was important I was really relying on you having

a reason why 378 would be important it's your kind of wracking my brain it's your that one football number from high school with a three added to the front of it minus one and i can use that minus one i can use i can use that next uh next next episode next i actually didn't know if you said that joke one time and i didn't know if your number was in the 70s or it must have been 99 episodes ago that i used that joke my timing's always just off just off like yeah i had that sit in the back of my brain for 99 episodes. I need to wait for 100, and that joke would have just hit so good. Yeah.

Here we are for episode 378, though. We got a banger this episode. We got a special guest coming soon who just so happens to be lifting out of the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic powerlifting meet. That's coming up soon. We're going to be talking about that. We've got a special Jefferson deadlift competition that's running now. We're going to talk about that and a new drop this week. So holy crap, there's a lot of stuff going on here. Before we get to any and

all of that, I want to tell you all about Juggernaut AI. Juggernaut AI is the app that Tommy and I both use for our powerlifting programming training. We've both been using it for many months now, well over a year, making progress. And it's actually the training that a whole bunch of people at Mastodonics Gym use. There's more people using it every time I walk into the gym. There's people using it at Mastodonics Gym that I expected would never people using it every time I walk into the gym. There's people using it at Massanomics Gym that I expected would never be using it because either they don't like the tech stuff or they really just haven't done it. Because they said, I would never.

And they ended up using it. There's a lot of people that maybe don't really haven't done set programming almost ever. They've lifted hard and heavy for a long time, but they really don't do programming outside of just what they want to do and this is a real testimonial there's someone at the gym that um has just been using it for a few weeks now and i hadn't expected that they would even get on it and said he's using it and i asked him how it was going i asked him how it was going this week and he said you know what i'll tell you the honest truth i wish i would have started doing this so long ago do i know who this is uh it was big justin oh he said i should have started doing this doing this long time ago and

i'm like yeah that like i can believe that you know it it uh it makes a lot of sense and in addition to that you know who else uses juggernaut AI for their programming now at MathSynomics Gym? Larry Legend. Larry Legend. Does he? Larry Legend uses Juggernaut AI. Look out. He has been for a few. He has been in the books.

He has been for a while. Yeah, he actually brought that up last time I was at the gym, and I actually did not know if he was being serious or not. No, he is. He is. Larry is using it. They don't call him the legend for no reason. They don't call him the shaft master for no reason either, do they no he uh every nickname he has he's earned it so yeah so check out juggernaut

ai when you go sign up make sure to sign up through the web browser the reason i want you to do that is that because that is where you can use our discount code discount code is massonomics that'll save you 10 for the lifetime of your membership thank you jug, Juggernaut AI. And today's episode is also brought to you by Texas Power Bars, and specifically the brand new Cunning Edge best bar out there, the 29 millimeter Texas Power Bar. US, they delivered the 29 millimeter bar is here.

It's their strongest bar to date with an increased shaft diameter of 29 millimeters has more loadable sleeve length and a minimum of 200k tensile strength and aggressive knurling this bar is sure to live up to the hype we have a lot of texas power bars in the gym and they are always a crowd favorite this 29 millimeter we don't have it yet but boy i haven't i haven't bought one yet it's just a matter of time i guess i gotta decide do i want to buy uh it in the bare steel version or the black zinc wow tanner that leads perfectly into the next part of this ad here that um the texas power bar comes in a shaft option of bare steel,

black or black zinc, and the sleeve comes chrome or bare steel. Yeah. Yeah, that is choices. I do like the bare steel bars that we have in the gym, but I also like all the black zinc Texas power bars that we have. Actually, I like the way that the black zinc wears on our Texas power bars that are like seven years old. It has worn so nicely. It's made this just amazing smooth gradient

that I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many gyms that have Texas power bars that have worn like that, you know? Yeah, I love the way that our old Texas power bars have worn. So I don't know. That would be the decision. And really reasonable price on that 29-millimeter Texas power bars have worn. So I don't know. That'd be the decision. And a really reasonable price on that 29 millimeter Texas power bar. Starting at a $315. Right.

So yeah, one of the best bars out there. Strong as a house, maintenance free, best in Erlene. You know the deal. Get the new 29 millimeter Texas power bar for yourself at Texasxaspowerbars.com and if you want to see us handling uh shafts and bars and that sort of thing head over to our youtube channel make sure you're

subscribing last week we posted our uh shaft master video our blind barbell test video i think that was our funnest video we've done to date. Mr. Beast reached out and said, wow, you guys are insane. I need to get you for some brainstorming. Yeah, so check out that one. And then this week's drop was the Fulfillment Center Tour. So you get a little peek at how the Masanomics sausage is made. Real behind the scenes. Yeah.

All the secrets are spilled. So if you're a listener of the Masan spilled so if you're not if you're a listener of the massomics podcast and you're not subscribing on youtube shame on you shame shame shame shame wasn't that is that game of thrones or something wasn't that uh i mean what was that lady's name circe circe circe yeah um i mean as much as you hated her lannister you may really started to hate those other people even more that's true you do love to hate the lannisters yeah but man when towards then you start really start to like jamie lannister i know don't you you forget that he shoved a kid out of a giant window to his fall to his uh crippling

wow first episode spoiler alert. Yeah, sorry. I guess if you haven't watched Game of Thrones yet, like, first of all, watch Game of Thrones. It is the first episode, so I'm not giving away a ton. Also, like, his incest, you also get over his incest, too, when I think about it, because

interesting character there, his changing of his character arc. Yeah, real character arc there. Right. Yeah. More reviews of Game of Thrones and other 15-year-old television shows on this episode of the Mastodonics Podcast.

Have you heard of Breaking Bad, Tanner? I could almost re-watch that. It's been so long since I've seen that. I think I could, but at the same time, I do remember stretches of Breaking Bad starting to feel really depressing. The show really does. I mean, because the show is doing its job,

it just starts to wear on you, though, that show after a while. Yeah, I think I can. Did you? I've never asked you that. How far did you ever make it in succession now that we're talking TV shows? Is there new episodes coming out of that right now?

The last season is done. Season four is it. And I couldn't remember how far you made it. I think I probably watched the first two seasons. This is my habitual problem with new shows is I find it and I really like it and then I just drop out. I don't find my way getting back to it when it comes back on new again. Like I don't,

I don't see things like advertisements or anything like that. So I never really know when new show, when shows are airing again for another season. And I don't like make an effort to find it and see, I can watch that again, but now I'm like, Oh, it's been like four years since I've seen an episode.

So then if I just pick up in season two or three, wherever I think I'm at, do I really remember what's going on? What you need to do, if you do do that, what you should do is you can go to YouTube and type in like season two recaps and there'll be someone that'll break it down for you.

All the main plot points in 10 minutes. And that would be a way better use of your time than watching the entire season again. I won't rewatch it because then I think like, oh, I don't remember any of this. And then I start to watch a season I've already seen, and then I'm bored because I'm like, no, I've definitely seen this before, and I don't care.

Yeah. I do need to watch this last season, just another show to have closure on here. Update on The Wire, for anyone that's wondering, though, I have not watched The Wire. Okay, I kind of expected that answer. Still have not watched watched the wire we haven't talked about that for quite a while would have been way more shocked if there was some answer in there but yeah we have uh the wire talk has really uh dissipated in recent months i i'm more of i'm just such a big book

guy now like how could i watch the wire when it's like, maybe, maybe I'll take soak in the wire once they put it in a written format. Once they convert that show to a book. If you can find the screenplay, you'll do that. It's kind of like the hipster version of watching it. Like, yeah. Yeah. Refuses to watch the wire reads the screenplay instead. So should we talk about our, should we talk about our new drop this week? Let's do it. So should we talk about our new drop this week? Let's do it. We have a new drop this week. Boom, segment done.

We do have a new drop this week. Just a few hot, hot summer items that are perfect for your coming right on 4th of July here, releasing just in time for that. Hopefully a lot of the shipments will go out around then. I'm not sure if you'll have it by the 4th of July per se, but you'll have it for summer, and it's just two items. I think they're both going to be hot items, so you don't want to sleep on either of these items. And when you're listening to this with it actually coming out,

that means the drop's actually already occurred because as we speak, the drop is tomorrow. So now is your chance if it's still available on both of these items. And I am wearing one of the items right here. It's the return of the Jefferson Deadlift T. People have probably picked up on this through a number of things lately. This is probably what's coming back. But originally the Jefferson deadlift tee was in black. This time we've got it in the royal blue color.

Back in blue. Like that ACD sound. Just like Metallica said, back in blue. And I really like the blue. It does pop, as the kids would say. It looks great. I got, you sent me mine about a week ago, and I loved it. I like the blue.

I don't know if it's, maybe it's just because it's new in comparison to the black that I've seen so much, but I kind of, the blue's real hot right now. Especially my black one was so old, that shirt is almost destroyed, so to see a fresh, crispy version of it really made me happy. My black one is stinky. that shirt is almost destroyed. So to see a fresh crispy version of it really made me happy. My black ones is stinky. Occasionally I have to permanent stink in it.

Yeah. I have two mass and I'm like shirts right now that are, there's no coming back from, and it's my Jefferson black Jefferson deadlift and my don't curl in me. That's quite old and fresh out of the lot, fresh out of the laundry. They smell fine. If you smell it, you're like clean laundry, you wear it for five minutes and even think about sweating in it it's just and

you're like wow i and it's like it just brings out uh so much hit like like hidden in the fibers bo out of that thing that you're like oh there's no saving this i should probably burn it but i don't i don't know what the fumes would do it'd be like a gas explosion yeah yeah that can happen with shirts after long enough but yeah big alex pointed out reusing a logo from a previous product on blue fabric we have never seen this from massonomics before this is pretty original one you know take something, but then take something that's pretty cool in black, and we make it limited blue. Yep, it's the oldest trick in the book.

The oldest trick in the book. And then the other item, I don't know, are we spilling exactly what it is? Maybe we'll leave that one as a little bit of a mystery, but we do have a tank top coming. It's a tank top. Summertime, got to have a tank top every year. This year is no exception. We're only doing one tank top coming so it's a tank top uh summertime gotta have a tank top every year this year's no it's the only we're only doing one tank top this year this is the only design that we're putting

on a tank top so if you want a tank top this is this is the one yeah we really made the decision process significantly easier by giving you one so really only thing you have to decide is size you know whereas before you had to pick from multiple designs if you were going to do just one now you only got one option size it but we're not saying yet what that is you're going to have to check out uh the drop after it goes live to make sure you check out and see what's what's available there for the tank top but i think if you like what we've done before i think you're going to like this one i think so too so yeah please if you like massonomics you to like this one. I think so too. So yeah, please. If you like massonomics, you should like this tank. Yes.

Yes. So go out, buy those, be part of this fun summertime party mood that everyone's in. Yeah. And then tomorrow's a big day for us because the Jefferson deadlift competition actually kicks off tomorrow too. We're long.

We have a new drop tomorrow afternoon that, that kicks off. And we also, the start, the official start of the Jefferson Deadlift competition. It's been five days, six days since we announced it, which means people have got it programmed into their training. They've been working at this for six straight days now. There's going to be some incredible lifts, I believe. I believe so.

And for anyone that doesn't know the details, maybe you didn't listen to last week's episode. I'll give you the real quick down and dirty. We want Jefferson deadlifts. This is going to run from June 29th to July 10th. We're looking for a video posted to Instagram, post it, use the hashtag Jefferson DL,

and make sure to tag us, tag massonomics in the post. We don't want it to be a story. We want it to be a main post on your IG page. Jefferson, DL, and tag Massanomics. For prizes, we're going to pick three random winners. And by random, really everyone that enters, everyone that participates, has a shot at winning.

And there's going to be three winners chosen from that group those are going to win what was the details on those winnings they're going to get $100 total package 40 of it in $2 bills 60 in merch then we're also going to pick a mass favorite and they're going to get $100 in massonomics uh $2 bills and some massonomics goodies and then the heaviest Jefferson deadlift that occurs over the course of this competition is going to win $222 in

$2 bills and some Mastanomics goodies. So get to Jefferson deadlift. And I actually did a little Jeff. I pulled a couple Jefferson deadlifts in

the gym today just for the just for the who of it. The competition hasn't even started, but I'm all revved up on this Jefferson deadlifting. So i figured what the heck i'll probably go in tomorrow and get some done i would it is the season so we're excited to see what everyone's gonna throw our way yeah and we'll be sharing a lot of those you know we'll be sharing as many of those as possible so

be on the lookout for seeing what everyone else has cooking in terms of, in terms of their Jefferson deadlift, the one true deadlift. I'm sick of all the sumo versus conventional arguing. Settle this once and for all. Yeah. With the one true deadlift. And I would, speaking of sumo versus conventional arguing, we had several posts on mass dynamics, mass dynamics mass dynamics instagram just it's funny though it's two episodes ago was mass dynamic state of the union and we were saying how instagram's not

working for us and now it's it just was like a line in the sand like magically one day they said no your posts can be seen by people again they're going to like them and comment them and we're going to show them to a bunch of people. And not just like things change a little bit. You sent me the graph, and it's like, whoa, to the extent of millions of people are seeing them now, not even just a little bit. Yeah, it kind of went from our worst engagement we've had for a while

to now our best engagement that we've had in a little while. Suddenly it kind of turned on a dime and uh can't can't attribute that to anything other than instagram doing whatever it wants to do and which we've said and we know that that is that is what they do is whatever they want to do so interesting though that it made a switch but a lot of the engagement has been around sumo deadlifting and i gotta say what's the old segment uh best instagram slash youtube comment of the engagement has been around sumo deadlifting. And I got to say, what's the old segment? Best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Yes. I forgot about that. And it really, it was kind of a, it really wasn't a good comment. We actually found bad comments that are ridiculous. And some of these posts that have been going, you know, getting millions of views or over a million views. We have multiple posts in like a week that got over a million views.

And the comments about sumo deadlifting are stuff that I didn't think people were even commenting anymore. Like this one video of Heather Connor deadlifting the world record 440 pounds has 3000 comments and the stuff it's not massonomics followers or people that even know anything. It's people that don't know anything about powerlifting. Well, it's people that also don't even know like anything about lifting hardly even like barely know anything about lifting and the number of comments of people that I just,

I couldn't even get into what the comments all are because it's just ridiculous. And I, I can't keep track. I can't not monitoring all the comments, but it's just wild where I, we get in the massonomics bubble where I think everyone has like a baseline of knowledge about stuff. And then you get outside of them. Oh no, that's not what most people are like. Yeah. Most people don't get understand shit about shit. Yeah. A lot of people are so insanely like you forget that you go to the gym a little bit. And as long as you're not surrounded by total dumb asses, like most people develop a certain level of, I don't know, modesty, understanding, comprehension for how the gym works.

And, you know, they respect a woman that can lift heavy weights. Like they're not intimidated by that like i all right if every girl on the planet can deadlift more than me sure that's awesome great it has no there's no bearing on my worth as a person you know it doesn't have anything to do with it like but damn the number of people that feel threatened by that is just crazy and then have to make their presence known online that they're the subject matter expert. It's nuts. It is wild. You drinking anything over there today? Yes, I am.

We going to get our drink on. What do you got? Oh. Back to the classics. Lime LaCroix. I've got a classic myself. Is that lemon? Yep. Limon LaCroix.

I was afraid you were going to pull another limoncello out over there. No, straight up lemon. Ooh, that was LaCroix. I was afraid you were going to pull another limoncello out over there. No, straight up lemon. Ooh, that was a pretty crispy crack. I even remembered to put it in the fridge beforehand. Oh, so good. Mine fits real nice in the spoon spot right here. Actually, this might be even better than I remember, honestly. It's been a little while.

It's been a while. It's been a while. It has not been a while since we did that joke. Okay, what's that guy's name again? One more time. Aaron Lewis, right? I don't know. That sounds right.

Yeah, that is really funny. It was only a week ago. I've already forgotten this bit. That's great. And actually, speaking of that, I went to an ice cream shop down the street from me tonight. And while we're outside eating the ice cream, I had to laugh because This Is How You Remind Me by Nickelback came on. That was also part of the joke last week was singing that song. Classic.

Should we start to, should we read, or should we go through some of these odds and ends on our list here, Tanner? Yeah, let's hit a couple things. I have a funny one for you. If I say the name Eric, what comes to mind, Tanner? What comes to mind from the name Eric? Yeah. Oh, just probably like a couple people that I personally know with that name. I mean, don the name Eric? Yeah. Oh, just probably like a couple of people that I personally know with that name.

Like, I mean, don't we all, yeah. If you asked me that question, I'd be like, I don't know. I know a bunch of Eric's like,

yeah, that's what, that's really what I'd say. I don't, uh, who's famous with the name Eric. Um, Oh,

Eric Lewis. Singer from stained. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Eric Lewis. Singer from stained. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Nothing. I'm not, I'm not on a blank on that one.

I don't, it doesn't, my mind goes nowhere. My mind goes blank. I had to make a little trip in town the other day to visit a, a liquor store. And while I'm in there, a guy goes,

Hey, nice shirt, man. I had a massonomic shirt. I'm like, Oh, awesome. Thanks. I'm in there, a guy goes, Hey, nice shirt, man. I had a Masonomics shirt. I'm like, Oh, awesome. Thanks. I go, you, you know, Masonomics. Oh, Tanner's my cousin. It was your cousin, Eric. Oh, Eric Baird. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I said, man, I seem to run into a lot of Tanner's family down here in Sioux Falls. So I couldn't remember, is he related to the other people that I saw? No, that's my other family. He shares the same. He's my first cousin on my dad's side. Okay, I couldn't remember if you said that was your mom's side or not.

I go, yeah, I met some people at Walmart over here. And he goes, oh, yeah, that was probably my parents. I don't know. Maybe Tanner's mom has family that lives down here, too. I guess I don't know. No, because that was my mom's. So I do have a lot of family in the area, actually. Damn, you do.

No kidding. Wow. Yeah. He's, I think, Big Eric is, I'm going to get this wrong, he's a teacher and I think track or cross-country coach at maybe Harrisburg. I mean, it's that end of town, if that would make sense. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Harrisburg. Also works in, like, the biggest liquor store in town.

It's huge. The liquor store is so big it has a bar in it. Really? Is that weird? I didn't know that was a thing. So he works in the liquor store in town it's huge the liquor store is so big it has a bar in it like is really is that weird i didn't know that was a thing so he works in the liquor store he was working there unless he was just picking up no summer unless he was just picking up bottles and moving them around for fun just i just really like to come and hang out here had a bluetooth headset in like taking orders i don't know so i thought that was funny. Just another week that I ran into more of Tanner's family around town. Yeah.

Yeah. There's they're taking over down there. They are. You got to watch out. Boy. Okay. Here is something I'm going to, I'm going to,

I don't want to get any, I'm glad you ran into him though. That's a good story. And that's not where I would have thought that that was. See, that's, that's just one of the Eric's I know would have been my cousin, Eric.

Yeah, man, I cannot believe when I said what comes to mind when I say Eric that you did not guess that. Jeez, Tanner. Just along those lines, I was at Storybook Land a few days ago, and someone goes by. I'm not on the train, and someone goes by in the train, and someone yells, Hey, it's one of the massonomics guys. And it was Big Zane. Oh, okay. Awesome.

I haven't seen Zane in a little while now, but that is funny. What comes to your mind when I say Zane? Oh, Zane, my friend Zane. Actually, like we joke whenever we see someone that is named Zane that it's like, how does. You should say, oh, man, I feel bad for that guy. He's got the same name as you. That's usually the joke. Big Keith in the Discord said, what the heck is Storybookland?

I'm pretty sure we've covered this a couple times, haven't we? Yeah. It's, I think, best described by whatever was in... Who said that? Whatever that podcast was that... Was that Mike Israetel? No, that murder podcast that... Oh, that's what that was. That'srael no that that uh murder podcast that oh that's what that was that's who said that yeah i know what you're talking about it's royalty-free

disneyland yeah yeah but it's good no it is like royalty-free disneyland it's for kids it's for kids so uh keith i don't i don't think you're bringing kids with you to the um meet but if you have kids it is for sure the place to go it's just like a big uh city park that has a bunch of parks playgrounds rides attractions that are all themed after different uh it's pretty awesome if you have kids yeah oh yeah my my boy we live not too far from it when i lived in aberdeen and my boy loved it like we we'd go there every weekend like it was so much fun for him so you you can go there every weekend oh yeah because it's free to go to it's free to go to is the other thing that's awesome so um yeah like and when we go back to Aberdeen he is excited to go back there again like he thinks it's great so yeah it's just a big big uh attraction for kids in Aberdeen but okay uh did

you see this the how supposedly Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk were in a cage fight, Tanner? I did see that. I saw memes going around. I didn't know what it was, so I had to actually look up what is going on about this, and I kind of got the backstory. Okay, so that's not what I'm going to bring up here, but is that just on a side note? Is that still on, or did I see that get called off? I never had seen that it was confirmed going to bring up here but is that just on a side note is that still on or did i see did that get called off i never had seen that it was confirmed going to happen all i all i had seen at the time was that dana white was saying yes he's dana white has talked to both of them they have both said yes i want to do it but i didn't know um does musk train any mixed martial arts like does he train

at all i don't know if he does but mark zuckerberg actually does train doesn't he yeah he actually i think is like competent in bjj so he would destroy him because he had just anyone that's like you take two relatively equal size people and one of them that's i mean not even relatively equal size like you could be bigger and fatter right yeah right for sure for sure okay but along those lines so i saw something else that is even more relevant to our industry and also very funny because tech ceos are on the prowl they're trying to see who can be the most alpha you know the group here airbnb ceo brian chesky says he'll challenge any leader in tech to bench press. Really?

So I really want to know how much this guy benches. And I tried looking a little bit, and I couldn't find what that is. What's his name? Brian Chesky, C-H-E-S-K-Y. Does he look like he? I don't know. I mean, does he look like he, um, I don't know. I mean, does he look like he could bench anything?

Uh, Oh, well this says, if this is correct, a 2001 NPC teen college nationals pump room photo here. If this is actually him, then I mean, he is fairly jacked,

but that was also, this is a correct 2001. mean he is fairly jacked but that was also this is correct 2001 that can change in 22 years oh yeah I can I yeah yeah I can see it certainly looks like he's lifted before yeah so I'm I'm genuinely doesn't look like he benches that much though no I that's I'm very curious like what that number is like it is his mind okay I can bench 275 that's more than any of my CEO peers is that I wouldn't be confident that this guy can bench three plates yeah like is that number three plates is he gonna surprise us and is that number 400 I have no idea so that now that's the competitions we need that's how all business should be for business he's decided by just who can

outlift someone else big alex wants to know if you would be considered a leader in tech that you could go up bench up against him that's a good question i will throw my hat into the ring good sir i think it'd be good publicity for tommy d creative oh i'd, I'd take that challenge all day. Let's go. Even if I get destroyed, it's only a win-win, you know? Boy, I never thought of that. Maybe I am a leader in tech. I don't know why you... I mean, you throw in Masonomics.

I've been running the Masonomics website. I mean, just that website alone for like eight years. I mean, if that's not a leader in tech, I don't know what is either. You know what I'd like to tell you a little bit about is supporting our supporting members. How's that sound? It sounds incredible. Okay.

This is a segment we do on the podcast every week for quite a while now. It is a relatively new segment, though, still. And it's a new and growing segment, and shit's just been popping off on supporting our supporting members. A lot of stuff to talk about, and what this is is we have our supporting members that support the Mathsonomics podcast monetarily.

You can do that, too. You can log onto our website and get signed up if you'd like to. We got several different levels and options there where you can choose to get in on, but any of those will get you access to our very active online discord community. You can listen to the podcast live once you sign up that you can't.

Otherwise, if you're not a sporting member, you also get early access on things like new drops. You get early access to the new drops and you get just a lot of inside info, a little, a lot of inside baseball that others are not getting so we'd love to have you sign up and then also every week we give back to these people by supporting them through this segment this week big ryan and big chad gpt had a crew meetup i don't know if you saw those pictures. I did see those pictures. And I think, if I remember right, Big Ryan was wearing the Jefferson Deadlift original black tee,

and Big Chad was wearing the, was it the Ray's Hell tee, I think? Yeah, that might sound right. Yeah, and I said rules of crew meetup. Whoever's wearing the older Mastodonics T-Design is the first to initiate conversation. Although it can be trumped with a supporting member membership ID card. Whoever has the lowest number. If someone comes and they have a newer T-Design than the other person, so the other person thinks that they've won and they get to lead the conversation,

they can trump them if they have a lower numbered supporting member id card you're their senior now yes yes and they kind of are required to do whatever you ask they report to you it's a blood oath essentially yes uh so those two met up i always love a good crew meetup that was fun to see and speaking of crew meetups big brad competed in a highland games competition this last weekend he said it was his best comp to date he had a couple prs and he turned the caber and it's relevant to a meetup because big dodzilla was there big scott yes So those two got to meet up. And supporting member number one, Scott Dodds, was meeting up with Big Brad. So that was good to see. So don't even try to one-up him.

He is number one. He's got the... He was number one. It's a SpongeBob SquarePants reference. Then Big Zach Barcroft had a powerlifting meet in Illinois where he hit a 1570 total and he said that was a post-surgery PR for him. So well done Big Zach on the big total. That's an awesome total. Not messing around there. He only weighed 120 pounds too, right? Yeah, 100 even. 47 kilogram class. And speaking of not messing around big nick had his third ever power

lifting meet he went seven for nine with a 501 squat 346 bench and a 573 deadlift for a 14 20 20 14 22 total that was a 33 pound meat pr uh very nice wellrounded numbers there. Last but not least, Big Murph was the guest this week on our sister podcast, Unpaid and Underrated. So make sure to give that a listen. Good stuff. Thank you, supporting members. Do we want to hit any ads up now? Do you think is it ad 30 30 or not just about i suppose okay well i'll do an ad and then if we we've got several other topics here so if we if we need to

want to kill a little time after that we can still get to a couple of these uh little zinger zinger of topics that we've got hidden in here so this week i'm going to tell you about the strength co who will be at the massonomics lift hard live easy classic power lifting meet in person just a few weeks and they're bringing people with them too yeah there's uh big ron's coming i think is he did you know that no i think big ron told me he's coming, I think. Is he? Did you know that? No. Big Ron told me he's coming. Oh, that's awesome. I love it. I love it. Also, who else is coming? Big D, of course, is coming.

Mm-hmm. You told me, was it Ryan? No, I don't know that Ryan's coming. Big Connor's coming. That's right. Oh, is he? Big Connor's coming, too? Oh.

Big Connor's coming, yeah. Awesome. That's for sure. Big Connor's coming. So, yeah, there will be coming too? Big Connor's coming, yeah. Awesome. That's for sure. Big Connor's coming. So yeah, there will be a crew of Strength Co. people there this week, and they're having a booth set up, and there will be let's see if I'm remembering everything.

There's at least two limited edition Massanomics specific items that they will be selling at the Strength Co. booth that I think people are going to be pretty excited about, and if I could tell you any teaser about the items that they will be selling at the strength co booth that I think people are going to be pretty excited about. And if I could tell you any teaser about the items that they'll have for sale at the event,

it'll be, they're going to pop. These items they have are gonna pop and boy, you are sure teasing me right now. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to be popping pop lock and drop in there at the lift, hardly easy classic.

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I just got to kick everyone out now. You're giving people the old ax then, are you? They're getting the barefoot boot. Okay the lift hard live easy classic uh how many days days out is that we're looking at we're under 30 aren't we 23 24 i think we're about 24 days out now is all so we're just uh just to see hair over three weeks uh you know we didn't mention our billboard at all oh yeah gosh yeah. Gosh. Maybe that requires... We'll talk about that more later. Do you want to maybe write that one down so we don't forget? If it's not on the

list, we might forget. There's a very good chance we'll forget. We definitely got to talk about that new billboard. Billboard numeral 4. Back with a vengeance. Back and billboardboardier than ever okay

they're all out finally now Lindsay can you hear us? I can hear you awesome you are on the Massanomics podcast so someone call my mom

it's probably the best day of your life we would assume yeah absolutely i feel like i made it i gotta like i said i'm gonna call my mom okay so she's gonna be so what the hell are you talking about like you did what i told her i was competing in south dakota she's like why would you do that? What has happened wrong in your life? Do you, she's like, we need to have, do we need to sit down and have a talk? No, we've got a lot of stuff to talk about and definitely coming to South Dakota is going to be one of our favorite things to talk about. But first thing first, we spend a lot of time, well, actually we spend a lot of time on our podcast talking about absolutely nothing. But first thing first, we spend a lot of time, well, actually we spend a lot of time on our podcast talking about absolutely nothing. But one of the things we like to talk

about is how words are pronounced. And we, um, we say some things funny is what people tell us sometimes that we, we talk kind of in a funny way up here in South Dakota. That's one of the first things I noticed about you. I'm going to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. We, we get that and it's, and it's, that's all right. We, we lean into that. We,

we like that, but so your name, does everyone just say Lindsay? Lindsay. Yeah. Okay. Cause it's spelled a little bit differently than what I know. It has an A.

So how often do people say Lindsay? It's happened before, but more, more often people just spell it incorrectly. And they're like, oh, they spell it with an E. So they're just like, yeah, obviously that's made up. That can't be right. So I fixed it for you. But really, I think my mom was just drunk.

We've all been there before. Yeah, I asked her. I was like, why the A? She's like, I don't know. She couldn't give me a reason so yeah naming i i get it though naming kids can be hard we're all we're having yeah we're having our fourth one and i'm like we kind of used all our good ones already so i don't know what we got getting the bottom of the barrel sorry about your luck

i practiced when uh when i was when i was pregnant i was like how embarrassed am i embarrassed to say this out loud yeah yeah that's a good that's kind of my guy yeah there's so many things to consider when you're coming up with a name though too and you're like uh what does it rhyme with like that other kids could say or like oh like what kid did you not like or was the bully that had that name like it's like someone you didn't like from 30 years ago tainted is that name in my life experience like that was a thing for me too it's yeah it makes it tough so you're coming to South Dakota that's not a joke then you're really going to do it

yeah I'm pretty stoked about it well I'm just I'm so excited to compete i think it's going to be really fun um plus i've never really been that far over before like i've never been that far west how am i where's kansas city in relation to you guys they're actually almost i have no idea yeah they're almost straight northwest a little bit yeah we're west of them a little bit not far but a little bit yeah so that's the farthest west that i have been so but we're quite a ways north from there so it's still it's but a little bit yeah so that's the farthest west that i have been so but we're quite a ways north from there so it's still it's still a little different than kansas city yeah i'm excited i i still don't know what to expect i don't know why it costs a million dollars to get there but i certainly you guys are really fancy so yeah it could be the whole

thing i mean why would you say it costs so much to fly to abc because are you where are you where are you flying into what uh well i changed it because i tried to fly to Aberdeen? Where are you flying into? Well, I changed it because I tried to fly into Aberdeen and they were like, that'll be $8,000, please. So I did Fargo. So flying into Fargo or Sioux Falls isn't

too bad and they're both about the same drive away. So either of those are better options, yes, but to fly into Aberdeen can get super expensive. I mean, you used to be able to get lucky with Aberdeen and like fine flights that were in like the, I don't know, 500 to $600 range. And now I don't, I don't mean, can anyone ever get into Aberdeen for like less than a thousand dollars now? Is that even a thing, Tanner? I did just, uh, ours, ours to, uh, DC and back were like 600 a piece. Oh, really?

Just caught like, yeah, we did. And we caught really good timing on that though, because they, at other times they were like a grand a piece. So yeah, it's cause that you, I guess you're not flying into the airport, so you won't see it. But if you flew into the airport, you'd understand kind of why it's the airplane has two seats on one side and one on the other. So it's like a very, it's a very small airplane. So like when you go on it, like, I mean, you could go on it and people would be like, Oh, are you here for the massonomics pilot? Like people

would be like, you come into town and people would know. Yeah. Yeah. People have like flown into stuff into town for massonomics stuff before. And they're like, Oh, you have a massonomics shirt on. We know those guys. And they'll start talking. Cause it is so small, you know? oh you have a massonomics shirt on we know those guys and they'll start talking because it is so small you know it's like the one i fly into when i go home um to ohio it's rickenbacker which is like an air i think it's a an army base there and there's a separate airport and has two gates like you can stand at one end of the airport and see the other gate and that's it that's all there is but for some reason it's extremely cheap to find i think because it's actually awful and and they know that so they're like we're gonna make it terrible but like

it's cheap yeah yeah see and we only have one gate so that one's twice as big as ours apparently wow i gotta tell them don't be really excited like oh we beat somebody. Yeah. Tommy, who do you think has longer hair, you or Lindsay? You know, that's actually, well, hers looks pretty long right now and it's wavy. So I would say hers is probably longer. But mine is pretty long. I feel like that's the first thing I noticed about you. And I think I saw you guys in Kansas City, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the first thing you said was, do you to lift I was like how did you know yeah oh you're spoiling one of my jokes from the podcast here actually I wanted to do that again I hope you didn't I was hoping you didn't remember that oh sorry my bad spoiler alert I didn't even spoiler alert it yeah uh so yeah do do you in fact still love to lift then that hasn't changed i that has not changed yet so still my favorite thing to do

in my past time has anyone else ever asked you that before like a terrible dad the same terrible i don't think so i think you're the only one oh yeah we thought for sure. You're like, Oh, this joke again. No, I think it's just, yeah. They just assume because it is part of my name name. I don't put my last name on my, my bio. It's not in there cause I just never had. And so when people will send me things, like if a company sends me something, if they don't ask, they'll just actually address it to Lindsay Loves To Live.

Yeah. Do you do that on purpose? Like you said, you just, cause you've never put it in there, but do you prefer to like have it be like a little less public or like, you know, I mean, you'd keep it off of there intentionally. I don't remember the initial intention for it. I don't, I just never put it in there. I don't know, I guess to have, because my regular, I have another Instagram that has like 900 people

and it's just like private, like my family where I post all of my kids stuff and it's on that one. And I think I didn't want, because that one wasn't always private. So I think I didn't want people going over to the other one and like because my kids were on there so yeah that one's called Lindsay loves to do stuff other than

lifting too right Lindsay loves to exist and then it's just like me it's just like Camilla bossing me around and stuff. So why did you, first of all, not saying this in a way like, hey, why did you do this? We don't want you here. We're stoked that you're doing the meet, but just curious,

what was the deciding factor to get you to sign up for the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic? Well, I was invited, so. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that sounds like a blast. Well, I've only ever had good interactions with you guys,

so I just assumed it would be great. I think it's going to be great. So you, I don't think you'll be disappointed, hopefully. I don't think anybody that's going to come is going to be disappointed. So it should be a lot of fun. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's for sure going to be, I mean, it's going to be an awesome group of lifters and spectators. So, yeah, on that side, it's going to be an awesome group of uh lifters and spectators so yeah on that side it's going to be a ton of fun

yeah and then it's an xbc now so that's exciting because then i think it'll fall you can qualify for the arnold that way right and then i'll get to lift i will get to lift at home or in my home state at least if i qualify which i think i. What do you have to do to qualify? I think I just have to, I think as long as I don't go backwards, I should be fine. Okay. Yeah. Which is always the goal. It's very doable. Yeah.

As far as I can tell. So were you at the Arnold? Did you, did you go to the Arnold this year? I did not. Somehow something weird always happens. I think this year I had to be there. I don't remember why I didn't go this year. Something always falls in a weird way where I have, like, another obligation that I can't seem to get out of.

Have you been to the Arnold before? Like, before it was very big. I went to the Arnold in, like, I want to say, like, 2009, 2010. Oh, so it's been a long time. So it's been forever. I went to the Arnold in like, I want to say like 2009, somewhere around there. So it's been forever since I've went. And then it was just like, you leave with a ton of supplements and stuff like that. But it wasn't like, it wasn't what it was,

what it is now when I went. But it just always falls in a weird way. It just like, I can't remember. I think my grandma died once and I was like, God, Nancy, could you just be a little more considerate here? And then,

and, um, I had those fucking old people. It's like, could you just consider my feelings for a second? There's this convention with a bunch of my kind of lifting friends that I'd really like to go to. No, it just never works out timing wise.

So you'll be going in with a bang then if you're competing in the XPC event. Yeah, it's going to be great. And then I have like a ton of family in Columbus. So it'll be very easy to. Yeah, that's cool. So we're only we're just talking about I think we're a little over three weeks away from meat day. Yeah. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Close. Yeah. So how's training going? It's going really well. I actually beat my, my training total beat my regular total last week. So I'm like, as long as I'm, I don't mess anything up, I should be in good shape. Yeah. So you're as strong right now as you've ever been then is that right is that what you'd say yeah things are feeling pretty good and and I'm less beat up actually this prep which is awesome because I feel like the last two I've had something weird

happen whether it was like my lumbar my hip so this time I'm just like, nobody do anything stupid. Or don't just sleep wrong one night randomly. Right, don't sneeze, don't cough, nothing. So do you have, have you hit, you said your training total exceeded already. So have you hit your heaviest numbers already or do you have heavier to go? I think so, yeah. heaviest numbers already or do you have heavier to go I think so yeah okay I think I have one like heavy squat left um which I never squat what I'm going to hit in the meet I think my highest squat last time was 385 in my last prep and I hit 424 um I just hit 395 in prep and I don't know what I'll hit at the meet, but that was, that's really the one. Cause it's,

I'm wrapped. So that's like the one that is the most work and the biggest pain in the butt. So once that's over, I'm like, all right, the rest is just doing what I've been doing for ever. Yeah. Um, do you have specific numbers in mind or do you not like to give yourself? I never do that. I actually actually i actually don't ever pick my own numbers so i always have for i think yeah the last i want to say five meets my coach has been there and i don't even like to know what's on the bar like please don't tell me what's on there luckily i'm not great with kilos so even yeah it's nice because it's like i don't really have to try not to know i just can't tell me. Right. But he'll be like, don't announce it.

Like, she's a psycho. Just, there's 135 on the bar. So is he going to be there or he or she, whoever your coach, I'm not sure who your coach is, but are they going to be there to do that in a few weeks? Not this one. Okay. So I just have pals. I'll just have pals call the numbers for me.

I said, this is the range. I'll go in with a plan. Obviously, Michael De La Pava is my coach. I'm like, just he'll sit me down with a plan. I won't look at it. I will give it to someone who will take care of it for me. Who's going to wrap your knees? Do you know who's going to wrap your knees yet?

I have a couple of people that can help me out. I'm not sure. I have a couple of that can help me out I'm not sure I have a couple people pinned down so that's something you don't want to leave to a random stranger yeah there's a few variables I have multiple options

so I'm just like one I have like already cleared a couple people like hey if I need you can you wrap my knees that day like I need a definite yes and I have a couple people that can do that. So yeah. Yeah. If you, if you get in a pinch and need someone,

Tommy and I will not offer our services. Do not ask us. That would be way too Ray, too much pressure for me, but we could find somebody probably. If you were asking us, I'd be like, wow, a lot of things have gone wrong right now for this to happen. It's okay. I will keep that in mind i'll write that down yeah definite no we could we could for sure get on the mic and be like someone wrap

lindsey's knees she needs it if you need help of like how to put on knee sleeves wear your guys but when it comes to wraps these days you just need help getting them off right yeah true true so do you do you usually compete in wraps then I mean is that your preferred yeah yeah I'm a wrap squatter I don't I haven't done a sleeved meet since I want to say like 2018 I think and actually yeah 2018 that was like the perfect storm meet the first r, the first meet I ever did that wasn't a USAPL meet, um, because it was right down the street. It was here and it was overbooked. Um, and we were there until one o'clock in the morning and I was used to USAPL, which, you know, takes like four hours. So I had like one meal. I was ready to be gone by like one in the afternoon it was so bad so you know at uh

at the meet here in a few weeks lifting hard is really only half of the battle the other half is the living easy and that's where like the after party and everything comes in so hopefully you've been training for that as well I'm actually uh I don't know how well my training for that has been going, but my actual training really hinders my living easy, but I'm doing my best. I just, I hope that I can keep up. Yeah. Right after the meat, right after a meat is the perfect time to live easy though. It is. Absolutely. Yeah. And I won't have the girls with me, so I can't actually live easy without like someone asking me for a snack or anything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't have kids around to live in easier. It is easier. You can live way easier. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. We can all relate to that. Unfortunately for me, I might not live here.

Tanner cannot escape it. It's yeah. I'll still find a way to live easy though. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. Yeah. Uh, so you're originally from Ohio. You live in Florida, both, both interesting States. We also talk a lot of geography on the podcast. And both interesting states in their own way. The first question would be, Tanner, though, would be, do you consider Ohio the Midwest? I'm so glad you asked because I feel like Ohio starts the Midwest. Well, yeah. For us, it feels like Ohio is the end of the Midwest,west you know because we're looking right from the other direction but i do get what you're saying there

i do get what you're saying it's it is the border like it definitely does not go east of ohio that without a doubt no no definitively nothing east of ohio i could even consider cutting part of ohio off probably for what uh Like that border of West Virginia. We don't even like to send them, so I get it. Well, here would be my follow-up question. Do you consider South Dakota in the Midwest? I mean, you haven't been here, but you've seen a map probably before. If you're an Ohio native, transplanted to Florida.

Someone asked you to name Midwest states. Is South Dakota going gonna enter your list man i never thought of that actually i forget that you guys are there sometimes but i feel like yeah yeah we have to include you we have to include you although i because i don't think that there is the name for those northern ones so you just get lumped in with the midwest regardless yeah yeah we like tommy and i definitely have always considered ourselves very midwest but it wasn't until like we really got to talking about this on the podcast and talking about it with a whole bunch of people that a lot of other people are like

well you guys aren't in the midwest where did they say you were uh i think just west yeah like west um some people like montana states but like we're i mean we're there's I think just West. I don't really know. Yeah, like West. Some people kind of said Montana. But, like, I mean, there's no mountains on our side of the state. We're the flattest place you could find. I don't know what I would call you guys up there, but, I mean, I feel like everything is the Midwest, and then you get to, like, I don't know.

What's just West? Just West of us, it would be, like, get to like Montana, Colorado, Wyoming and stuff. And those are out west. Yeah, those are like western states. That's like the start of mountain states or western states. Like they all have like Montana, Idaho, Wyoming. They have a more similar vibe and our vibe is not like those places, I don't think. Yeah, because they're wrong

exactly yes so what I've heard people say before that it's like uh Florida is the Ohio of the south do you think that's correct okay I felt at home here immediately though I will say it's more the east coast is definitely more like midwest like daytona is like being at home but with a beach and a very big track you're saying like the east coast of florida is more midwest okay okay yes and then the other side is a little bit bougier so it's not very midwest but i will say overall like in general when I first moved here I because you know in the Midwest you just kind of do the smile thing when you walk by people yeah and like no one in Florida does that they were very confused they're like is she unwell yeah

she has a facial tick okay like that's actually no I've never actually thought of that before I just assume everyone did that everywhere that's never really crossed our mind not here the southern hospitality is not here okay i'd be somewhat relieved to be able to stop doing that maybe if everyone if everyone was in i'm not doing it then it's not impolite to not right yeah everyone's good we don't have to do that anymore this is very much a culture shock though when you are very accustomed to it i'm like oh no what did i offend them yeah yeah but you would carve out like Miami as its own thing almost kind of too like if you get far enough south in Florida that's separate vibe Miami yeah it's a night yeah there's so many lanes why do you need that many lanes I just I

think it's I would like to not Miami yeah and then, you were just in the, I was just in the panhandle in Dustin on a little vacation. And that was, that felt like Alabama. I told Tanner, like, I've never been to Alabama, but everyone down there talked like they were from Alabama. So it felt like I was in a, in the South. Yeah. I don't, I've only been to the panhandle once. And it was like a long time ago before I even moved to Florida. But I would agree that it's got its own little like, yeah, Florida is very like different, like regional. Yeah, surprisingly big, actually. You know, we do live in a big state up here, but yeah, you get to Florida and it's surprisingly big still. It is.

Yeah, because it takes me four hours to get to Miami. Like it's just a straight shot south, but it's four entire hours. Yeah, that's a drive. On a scale from one to sturdy AF, how sturdy are you? Obviously, I'm sturdy AF. Now, I wasn't always sturdy. I kind of like that descriptive word. It's kind of fun, and I see you run with that a lot.

What does sturdy mean to you, would you say? So because I was so tiny when I started powerlifting, I was a 132, and I was so tiny. And I was just very like, I kept breaking because I was just not very sturdy. I kept breaking because I was just not very sturdy. So we, like I was, I had a stupid strength. I was kind of strong for being that tiny, but I kept moving poorly, first of all, and hurting myself. But so like gaining weight with Ryan was really, really important and like just growing in that way and getting like heavier.

So we made it like a whole thing, like a whole goal. Like, Hey, you just really need to move up to a 148 and like fit there. Cause I think at one point too, I was competing at like 136, but I never really cut down to 132. I would just go in as a very light 148. So like filling out the 148 weight class was the goal and that was where like that sturdy uh came from i feel like that's a super midwest description for for how to try to say something is it's dirty yeah it's dirty

that's good i ain't going i ain't going anywhere. Give it a couple of slaps. Yeah. That ain't going nowhere. That's right. So were you strong? Like just even when you just like dipped your toes into lifting for the beginning, you kind of made a comment there. Like, did you like have a net, you know, you naturally came to some of that too. Yeah. I think I thought that I was very strong. I truly believe that. don't i i always felt like i had a pretty good squat like i think my first meet i and i squatted 275 and i was really happy with that i was like 300s right around the corner i wasn't but that's what i thought

yeah that's how it goes i spotted like as wide as an equipped lifter um but yeah i i thought so and i actually i did like a local usa pl meet and won and i got third and because i knew nothing like when i tell you i knew nothing about powerlifting i knew nothing so i was all excited and i was like i'm obviously the third best in the whole state like that's what this means I clearly won third in the state of Florida and and then I slowly realized that that meant very little yeah so but I'm glad that I didn't go in knowing anything because then I didn't have like these weird expectations oh I didn't have the right shoes or the right belt or the right this or whatever I just didn't know any better like I didn't even have knee sleeves my first knee I did not know what they were for I feel like there is part of that that's nice when you're a

little bit newer like I don't know Tommy the first meet we did was in like 2015 or something like that or 2014 maybe and like powerlifting was slightly like oh it was so different then I mean like Instagram people didn't have cool powerlifting shoes like they didn't really even quite exist yet and like the equipment stuff just didn't matter like most people's knee sleeves were like the blue uh reband yeah your options for like reband and then if you wanted a belt it's like you got insert or maybe there were some people that had a titan belt like that was that was like the world of equipment at the time you know you just don't know what you didn't know what you were ignorant to right and it is

kind of nice yeah it is nice your choices were like converse shoes or maybe someone was crazy and had like healed shoes of some kind like yeah or wrestling yeah like that was it basically that was that was the world then yeah and then sometimes like uh i for sure included like i'm talking about myself here you like you can get not all that much better but you start to think you need these things to do what you're already doing without those things you're like oh no i really need these nicer knee sleeves i don't squat anymore than i did in the shit ones like i don't squat anymore in the shoes but i need these now like now i can't do it without them

they feel real nice yeah well that's always our joke is like oh it's finally now I can't do it without them. They feel real nice. Well, that's always our joke is like, oh, it's finally now I can finally get strong now that I have, you know, whatever that piece of equipment is. This is what's holding me back the last 10 years. Exactly. Yeah. So you, you, you, your competition deadlift is sumo, right? It is. I had to come. I pulled conventional my last meet because i had trained

conventional for all that time when i had that hip issue okay and sumo was like really the thing that was pissing it off really bad so we had trained and then i i talked to dr lock dr andrew lock helped me big time to get around that pain so i could squat pain free which was amazing but i had already been training and prepping conventional the whole time. So I did a couple pulls sumo and I was like, this feels like absolute trash because it had been like eight months. So I didn't want to change that at the end of the prep. Cause I think it was like five weeks out, four weeks out, something, it was pretty close. So instead of changing anything, I was just like screw it I'll pull some as long as I pull over four I'm happy I still beat my prior total um and and then no one was mean to me on the internet for like eight entire months so that

was great okay so that's what I kind of kind of want to ask you about I feel like people that power lift you know if you actually compete in power lifting i don't know maybe i'm giving too much people too much credit but i feel like people that really compete or really actually understand power lifting they don't give a shit like nobody like maybe it's a joke of like uh sumo's cheating but like real lifters don't actually care or think about that but then like this week we were talking about it earlier we shared, made a silly video out of Heather Conner at IPF World. She hit a deadlift world record. She pulled 440, I think.

Yeah, maybe it was 419. Whatever it was, it was close to 200 kilograms, whatever it was. It was a crazy, awesome lift. And we've had her on the podcast before. And she's cool and everything like that. We shared this video and we actually shared a couple of different things and they both went a little bit viral. You know, they both had millions of views and getting thousands of comments. And we kind of live in this bubble where we usually get like actual real lifters commenting on things.

And they may make a joke about Sumo being cheating or, you know, just a dumb comment. We make dumb comments all the time so we're used to that sort of thing but this got out to all these people that actually don't know about lifting and i start all these comments i mean it's just it's crazy i forget we that there's all these people out there like way more of the people that think sumo really is cheating or oh that's only a six inch range of motion that doesn't count or look how wide her legs are that's not a real lift like does that actually count and all this put your legs together put your legs together and tell your mom to put

her legs together like i just don't what is your problem like i love it when people always are will say like do a standard deadlift like you don't even know what what it's called and you're trying to correct me like sir have several seats please um but I just I forget I do the same thing like I forget like because I'll be excited and then I have tried so many different ways like I've tried being a dick back and I've tried being like a little bit more gracious back and no matter what the ignorance stands. So I'm like, I give up. So do you still, do you still get a lot of that on your pulse though? Oh yeah. There's always one. And,

and then, like I said, I didn't realize for a while until I switched back to sumo that I wasn't getting hateful and rude comments. I mean, occasionally, cause my bench arch isn't crazy. If I, if I crop the setup, you can't like my arch isn't super high. And my arms are so long that like, I wasn't getting a ton of hate for that until recently, but the, the sumo always garner something. Cause for some reason, deadlift videos just are I think because it's the lift that most people recognize and it's the lift that generally people have the

most to say about because not a lot of people actually squat so they tend not to say anything about right they can't even have an opinion they're like I've never actually done anything like that right so because it's so recognized yeah that's a good point but it's always there's always one especially if for some reason it just like takes off um or i notice like the heavier they get or heavy singles all that stuff like people get really really offended by my wide stance conventional deadlift i don't get i do think, especially after this week in the post, all the comments I see, it is, like to me, there again, like people that are actually into lifting,

women's powerlifting is exciting and very popular and people like it. And, you know, to me it's just powerlifting. I'm not really thinking about women's powerlifting and men's powerlifting and stuff like that. It's just in the sport of powerlifting especially, they're very, like I think they're very equal playing grounds and like both both get a lot of publicity and both are enjoying and stuff but there's is like a sexist thing about it or something too because all the negative it's like but it's not just a sumo deadlift it's a

woman doing sumo deadlifting seems to like drive people nuts too i don't really know why i i the one post that went yeah it's like people are insecure there's you see a video of a woman first she's deadlifting and then she's sumo deadlifting and then she's doing more weight than a guy could anyways and they just feel threatened in so many ways that they just can't handle it i that's all i can think of what it is you know i that's what it is. I think that even if you're not, even if it's not more than they can do, if it's somewhere in the ballpark, yeah, it's threatening them. They're like, whoa, that's not, but this is why I'm better than you, because that's a little too close for comfort. Slugger, let's talk about this. More strength

for me isn't less strength for you. It's not I. We can both have it. Exactly. Yeah, we can both have a lot of it even. The number of people that commented on those that like, oh, that's my warm-up weight. And I'm like, dude, first of all, it's like 440 pounds. She's the size of your legs. There's so many reasons that that's that comment is just like that that comment is so stupid i can't even get into all of them but i'm just like oh i i don't know i i got a little frustrated with that after seeing them so many of them i'm like oh

i thought we were kind of beyond that but i guess not i did too there was a time there was a short time like i said when i was like, wow, this is great. Maybe the internet's turning a corner, but it turns out the second you go wide, you... Yeah, that's the thing when it gets wider. There's no peace. But that's why we always take the stance that conventional is cheating too. They're both cheating. It's just Jefferson deadlifting is the only thing that's actually not cheating. I've still never done a Jefferson deadlift.

Oh, well... lifting is the only thing that's actually not cheating i've still never done a jefferson dead lift oh i feel like after that oh you know what maybe at the meet i'll just do it out is that a legal comp stance because i could just actually it's actually not yeah but most of the room i i don't know what the xpc rules say but most of the rule books do say your your feet have to be you know that you're on the same side on the same side of the bar right have you guys you remember the hack squats like from the floor i have done those before i have done those before see those actually seem crazy to me like the i don't get i think that's harder than the jefferson yeah for sure maybe it's really difficult it's really difficult to keep a hold of the bar, especially as it's coming up, like right behind your glutes. That's hard. It's hard. Yeah. They're fun. I just did some Jeffersons today. Cause we have this Jefferson competition

thing coming up. And to me, it really like the way you put your feet at really, it, it reminds me a lot. It is more like a sumo deadlift where you just are around the bar. You know, you just, it's just your hands, your arm and hand position. That's weird. Your legs pretty much, you can still swat it up even more though. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

I think even more like there's some people it's advantageous. Like I think if you're a sumo deadlifter, the Jefferson deadlift maybe comes a little bit easier. I don't know. What is the, what is the training? Like is the Jefferson just like prepping you for like a dinny stone or something like what is the reason ah there's so many reasons we just wouldn't have enough we wouldn't have enough time on this podcast to talk about all the reasons you would want to do a jefferson deadlift but that would be

one is it's funny you know who does them a lot is like the bodybuilders you'll see like kai green always always kai green doing them yeah yeah and it's like uh as a leg developer but i don't know why you i don't know why you choose that exercise over all the other things you could do to develop your legs still too but um yeah i guess i guess I guess part of it is it, it maybe is a good social media engagement post sometimes too, because everyone goes, what is that? Right. What is he doing? But we like it to stop the sumo conventional argument. You know, it just like someone says, oh, sumo is cheating.

Oh, conventional sucks. And we say, no, you're all wrong. We're just in the separate class over here with the Jefferson deadlift like I feel like you're doing the Lord's work yeah so talking about commenters and stuff like that I don't know I didn't do my homework

and look through your Instagram comments to find out on this or not but do you get very much muscle mommy talk and comments which is a very popular thing right now do you see a lot of that on your posts sometimes i see that and honestly it's become this like fun little thing uh between like female lifters so you know i get like my favorite one ever from aya. She said muscle matriarch. That might be my favorite thing of all time.

But it's more, you know what I get the most of is because I'm always barefoot. I always get the foot guys. Because I just, I don't have the energy to try to censor a video. I'm like, well, here you go. Toes are free here. I don't have the energy to try to censor a video. I'm like, well, here you go. Toes are free here. I don't know. Yeah. I bet some guys get to your page and they're probably like, this is the gold mine.

I just don't have the energy to try and figure out how to censor a moving thing. Yeah. So toes is free here. I always forget that's a thing. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, everyone's entitled to like what they like, but I can't, that's a, that's a thing yeah well yeah I well I mean everyone's entitled to like what they like but I can't it's that's uh that's the one of the I just I don't I think because they are not sexual things to me I don't it doesn't compute as like I should be offended because

again I'm like you want to look at my Fred Flintstone heat buddy all right listen I look like I walked out of Jiffy lube with these things that's okay but i just think that i i don't have the energy but when i had um first people were very confused because they don't know that you can compete in the rps barefoot oh you can actually when i yeah you can compete the rps has that as a rule you can be barefoot i knew that i found that out in 2019 when jaffee forgot, uh, his deadlift slippers and he was competing and he like kind of exploited that rule a little bit. And then, so when I signed up for my next RPS me, I was like, I am absolutely pulling barefoot or squatting barefoot. That was

my biggest thing. Um, but that's when people were like, what the hell, Why is she barefoot? Like what is happening? And then I got so many, um, like sweaty souls requests, message requests. And I'm like, I'm just not gonna do that. It's probably the safer way to do it. So how did, I mean, just, just training barefoot for you, has that just always felt better or what's your reasoning behind it? Yeah. I just, I've always been like a flat flat I've always been a flats person anyway like I've never liked lifters when I had a hip issue I tried them I'm just I've never liked lifters I've always liked squatting and flats anyway and then barefoot always feels best I can just feel the floor yeah makes sense what about uh do you have any hacks we talked about it you know you you have kids also in

your very high level competitor do you seems like something that comes up a lot do you have any uh uh how do you manage life being able to you know have kids have a family you know still hit the gym not miss any of that stuff do you have any tips or tricks for anyone that i think that you have to stop assuming that you're going to do it all and just do like what you can and like that's it's the simplest answer is the answer like balance is probably bullshit there's pile of laundry back there that i like to call mount doom that i'm not going to touch today probably not tomorrow um like just pull whatever you need clean out of it that's the system exactly are they wearing clean clothes all right then it's a win is a win but it's like the all or

nothing mentality that really kills people uh because you can't get it all done like i made dinner tonight do you think i cleaned up after dinner you'd be wrong it's in the thing but there's other there are other more pressing things like podcasts. So stop thinking you're going to do it all and just make the to-do list, cross off what you can put the other crap at the top on the next day and keep the ball rolling. I think that's what it is like parenting and doing anything in life is just keeping the ball rolling and making sure everyone's breathing at the end of the day, where they fed, are they breathing? Okay. We're good. Yeah. I mean, you did, you did break it down pretty simply, but yeah, you are right. Those are kind of the main, the main things like, cause yeah, if they're not fed, like, you know it and everyone's life is going to be miserable

when people are hungry. Like it just, Oh yeah. You can't get around that one. And then, yeah. Or you have the kid that's like, or there's a kid that's like my other my oldest one is like you know she has lots of sensory issues and she doesn't love to eat so at one point i'm like listen legally i have to feed you do you want some yogurt okay we don't do the dinner we don't do the dinner battle here it's like did did you eat something okay that's i do not fight very hard on like like a lot of times it's like you need to eat something i really don't care like right today i don't care what it is eat anything i'm not like i do it doesn't even have to be this thing that's healthy like it just needs to be something some calories have to go in yes did you find that cracker on the floor no i just i don't do that battle because i'm like when's the last time you heard of a of a

kid you know that cared for child actually starving you haven't they're gonna eat when they're hungry i'm not doing this yeah i pick your battles i guess is another tip i think that's good yep okay we have this game we like to play with every guest that we have on today is no exception it's overrated or underrated and we've got a special lindsey loves to lift set of topics for overrated underrated you can elaborate as much or as little as you'd like to on the answer for each one but what you have to remember is you can't ride the line you have to determine if each one is over or under and these are all sweden no yeah no these are all no neutrality here no and these are uh did you know uh someone in our discord said this today i think think it was Big Kevin to give him credit. The Swiss bar, you know, the Swiss barbell?

I never knew that's called the Swiss bar because it's neutral grip and Switzerland is neutral. Have you ever heard that before? I didn't know that was the reason. That's what he said and I'm like, that actually makes sense. I've never heard that before.

I always wondered why it was called that, but I, yeah, that makes sense. Wow. So that's big Kevin. Yeah. That's a, the more, you know, right there, like that's a good, that was, that blew my mind for a second. I'm like, Oh wow. That actually makes sense. Okay. So these are always like, you know, of course, super serious and about like politics and stuff. And we put you on the spot. So I hope you're ready. Perfect. Okay.

I'm ready. So overrated or underrated choker necklaces? Obviously they're underrated. I mean, you can, they're so much fun. I actually love mine because I have a very fat neck. So it just gives it a little dimension. So, and then you can, you know, make it a game. Like, am I going to break this one when I pack my neck?

We don't know. Yeah. It's up to the gods. We'll see what they'll have today. So you have broken them before. I think I've snapped like five or six at this point. And then I got the stretchy ones that are unbreakable but they're not as cute is it always yeah is it always does it always break during a lift is that when they go

oh yeah it's always squat because I pull my neck back so okay overrated or underrated rope climbing I think they're obviously underrated. I mean, when's the last time that was a weakness for you? Like, if it is, you're in trouble when the apocalypse arrives, then I'm not waiting for you. You'll be at the top of the rope already. Yeah, I'm aerodynamic. You're screwed. Yeah, like sturdy and aerodynamic.

You're zombie bait. Sorry about your look. Yeah. Survival tips, that it's good is that something that you i mean you've we've seen you post those obviously before but like have you been doing that for a while or is that like uh yeah crossfit gym and got in on that or how did that start uh and i was teaching aerobic boxing we had a rope in there and i just wanted to see if i could do it and then i wanted to see if i could do it. And then I wanted to see if I could do it without my feet.

And then it was just, it just became like a funny party trick. It's like ripping a phone book in half. Right. I'm like, Oh, I hold my beer and watch this shit. Oh, there's a rope here. How did this happen? Okay. Uh, for the last couple, we get, we get into the foot section of overrated and underrated, the feet stuff. So hope you got your Flintstone feet ready. Overrated or underrated, Crocs. Oh, come on.

Crocs are super underrated. Crocs are the elite footwear. I mean, Squat University just said this, didn't you guys see? I didn't see what he said. Dr. Aaron Horschig, what did he say? said this didn't you guys did he really i didn't see what did he say did he actually say that aaron horsing what did he say he said that some guy uh ran a marathon in crocs because of the wide toe box you know he's a toe box guy oh yeah name a wider toe box name a wider toe box than a croc so i i just yeah i don't know they're just so easy for me to get on and i thought that they

were hideous too that's what's funny was like when they first rolled around my dad has some and my dad is like super midwest like my dad is the midwest and he calls them his plastic shoes and he he'd be like go get me my plastic shoes um and I was like god these are so hideous I will never own these and now I own like way too many pairs of Crocs so Crocs with barefoot or with socks so I have yeah well I'm in Florida so I will wear socks with my Crocs if I need to but usually without but I do have a pair of like the fuzzy lined ones oh that was a thing so you can get so you get really fancy with them. You get fleece-lined Crocs, and it's like you're wearing a socially acceptable – well, are they socially acceptable?

I don't know. They're basically slippers. We were talking about it today, though. We took the family, went and got ice cream down the street, and every kid there has Crocs on. And we're like – I was talking about it with my wife. We're like, it wasn't that long ago that it seemed like the whole world was like an agreement that Crocs were not cool. And then it felt like there was somewhere in like the last four or five years that everyone's like, no, no, Crocs are good now.

And just everyone wears them all the time. We just changed our world. I think like with little kids, it's just that they're so easy to get on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My boy has them. He's always wearing his Crocs around. My kids all wear

them so do you wear yours in four-wheel drive or two-wheel drive i'm i'm usually in two-wheel drive unless i'm doing stones in which case i feel it's important to get four-wheel driving it's like it's like putting on like that last elbow sleeve or like that last piece of equipment it's like oh i have to flip this to four wheel drive now I'm good one second now I'm ready I've never put a pair of Crocs I haven't either I've never

I don't even know what it feels like you don't have Crocs? I've never even tried a pair of Crocs on before your children have Crocs they all have it yeah I don't know did you guys see my shark shoes no my cloud i've oh cloud sharks are next i need you guys to get off this podcast and look up cloud shark they're do it right now because i have a pair of those too and they are obnoxious cloud shoes how would you i'm just typing it oh like are these the ones that actually look worse than so they're are they kind of flip they're kind of like flip flops that look like a shark slide

it kind of looks like a yeezy slide yeah it looks like if you made a yeezy slide look like a shark yeah that's what it looks like oh i feel like my kids would love those like my kids definitely those they do and they're really squishy they feel like you know those boat keys that are like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah they feel like on your foot yeah like the old koozies too like beer koozies right yeah yeah it's like walking on a koozie it's literally it's joy and they're funny they are attention that's for sure yeah yeah i feel like they look better than crocs that's my first impression really i don't know something about the holes in the crocs i think it's not really the material of the shape it's like the wisconsin cheese well but you can get you know

you get the little pins that decorate the crocs so fill those holes tanner have you seen those um yeah i'd not you're not selling me on that being better I mean until you get to customize them and then we're all excited like let's be honest like you would geek out if you have like a full store we have a crock store here and when you get in there and you like start getting into those little gibbets is that what they're called gibbets yeah you're like wow I am a genius um clearly a design god just very validating this is really the foot feet section so there is one more and this is the last last topic so this is a lot rides on the line with this one so overrated or underrated uh doc martin's oh underrated okay ducks are the i love my ducks have you always been a docs person because those have also kind of gone through well yeah like

in high school were you a doc did you have doc martin's i did i didn't have i had the shorter ones though like the ankles not the uh yeah not the tall and i yeah the tall ones are back too but i had the short ones in high school and middle school yeah middle school those were like those were like my go-to everyone had those oh god yeah yeah i mean everyone those are underrated for sure i'm glad they're back but i wish i was like allowed to they were a little bit too gosh and my mom was like absolutely not who do you think you are um so i had to get the short ones i remember at the time i don't know maybe they cost the same they did then but like doc martin's weren't cheap though either like weren't doc martin's like a hundred and i know they're like a hundred and hundred and ten i think and i remember at the time thinking shoes can cost

that much money it was like mind-blowing and now just all shoes cost yeah but you're wearing these for the rest of your life yeah yeah that's true yes i don't know i will be wearing these for like five years these are your shoes for the next four years same with my like one pair of nike shocks those are your nike shocks forever yeah yeah i'm surprised i don't still have them well that was always the reason i couldn't get them because like now your feet aren't done growing you cannot cannot have them to have you grow out of them in a year. Like, so that was off the table for so long. Yeah. But I, I think I stopped growing by that point.

I wasn't getting much bigger after. I think I stopped growing in like eighth grade. I'm actually not very tall. People think I'm tall on the internet, but, and then they see me and they're like, Oh, I thought you'd be taller. I'm like, Hmm. I think it's the thing if you see girls lift weights and you're just like she must be huge like she's got to be I think that's just like what your brain does and then the angle plus the ceilings in perfect storm are very low so I think I just in comparison look taller than I am I mean

what your average height for what I don't even actually know what average means, but like, are you average height for a woman? What is the average height for a woman? I think, I think average is like five, five, five, six. I'm five, four. So I'm not especially tiny, but I think people expect me to be a lot taller than I am. But I think five, seven technically, or five, nine is tall. Five, seven is average somewhere around there. And then anything under five, anything five, four and under, they stay as short, but I don't feel short. And I think a lot of people think that they're five, seven and they're actually not. Yeah. They got weight. They got like, they measured their height when they were wearing their docs and they were like, this is who I am now. And you just pick a height at some point in your life

and you're like, this is how tall I am. Yeah, it's like all guys. It's like, now I'm just six feet. All guys say six feet. It's like, yeah, five, ten, six foot. What's the difference? Sure you are, slugger. Oh, I'm average. Yeah, good stuff. It looks like you passed overrated and underrated, so that's

great news. Since you passed, we are going to let you still be in the meet. Oh, thank goodness. Okay, I had a lot riding on that. That was important. It was pass, fail, and you passed, so you do get to still we are allowing you to still make the flight to South Dakota.

Beautiful. See you guys there. Awesome. we are allowing you to still make the flight to uh south dakota beautiful awesome well this is really good i know you work with a lot of companies uh one do you do stuff with bodybuilding.com i thought that was particularly interesting to that kind of yeah that's not something you see all that much with like uh you know a lot in fitness bodybuilding maybe that sort of thing. But I don't know if there's that many people that I'd say are quote unquote powerlifters. Yeah, I think there's only one other girl. Well, Steffi Cohen too, but she doesn't powerlift anymore.

But there's another girl named Haley that seems really sweet and she competes as well in powerlifting and she's also with bodybuilding.com. They expanded that team pretty significantly. sweet and she competes as well in powerlifting and she's also with bodybuilding.com they expanded that team pretty significantly and i think they had like a change of hands at some point um but yeah they have great they send great stuff i have all the protein i need thank goodness yes okay um what what else do you offer coaching then too, I think, right? I have one-on-one coaching. I have my Train Heroic app, which is just like kind of general strength programming, all via Train Heroic, which I love because it's a very affordable way for people to get stronger. And then I have Live Large that I work with. Never heard of them. Yeah, they're the worst. Don't even know those guys

terrible um and then cerberus too i just joined the team with them and they're great they have they make a lot of really good stuff yeah they do they make cool stuff they make really good sandbags too you do a lot of sandbag you do a lot of like strongman i do because my coach is a strongman so i like to dabble i because my coach is a strongman so i like to dabble i was getting ready for a strongman and then i left when my hip got busted up and i was like i don't want to be able to power lift still so i could probably stop this so is that would you ever compete in that though someday oh i want to so bad i love strongman i just i wanted to make sure that i could still power lift. I was getting ready for Miami's baddest.

And then I just stepped out from under a yoke and my whole left side just kind of collapsed. And I was like, oh, so we kind of recovered from that and then just slowly eased back into power lifting. That's what took me so long to go back to sumo and all that actually happened under a yoke. So I wanted to compete in strongman. I still do. I just can't. I'm a little bit nervous

but I do a lot of things that like carried over well like um conventional I still do wagon wheels still do stones and sandbags um carry stuff like that yeah I think strongman's awesome and so fun and stuff but the injury risk just is always higher because there's so much higher uh there's like a lot less controllable variables and like moving in all these different planes and obviously the odd objects that's most of the times i get i got hurt that's what it's from but it's so much fun it's hard not to go back to it so still too because just because it is fun yeah it's a blast i and a lot of my lifters are like i want to try that i'm like you, we have a, just wait a minute.

Yeah. Simmer down. Okay. Well, we are excited to see you in about 24 days. It's going to be a lot of fun. We feel like we're, we're working on getting the final, final touches finished up. So Aberdeen should be ready for you.

All right. No pressure, but I'm coming. Awesome. We expect to see you as sturdy as ever. I will live up to this, I promise. Okay. Awesome. Awesome.

Well, thanks for coming on and staying up and avoiding the dishes with us. Absolutely. Anytime. Thanks a lot, Lindsay. Thanks, guys. Bye. dishes with us absolutely anytime thanks a lot lindsey thanks guys bye hit her with the double cool beans didn't you cool beans that was good the meat's getting close isn't it to, Tommy? It is. When you say 24 days, and by the time people are hearing this, it's like 20 days. Man, it's right around the corner.

Yeah, so the billboard went up to advertise the meat. It was our fourth billboard ever, and you haven't seen it yet in person. Not in person. It's brand new. It is brand new, and it really pops. It really is attention-grab attention grabbing this new billboard. I put it, you know, you had the video,

I put it on my Instagram story and I had several friends that don't live in Aberdeen anymore that saw it. And they were like, wow, that is amazing. It's really fun. I love the billboard thing is never going to get, I just think people just really don't believe like,

really this kind of fake seeming company has a billboard. Like just let anyone have those things, huh? Yeah. Anyone that will pay, you're telling me if you cut a check, you can do almost anything. It's like,

yeah, you really, if you have the money, it is a funny thought. Like it makes, it has made me think before, like, uh,

for, you know, my, one of my kids, like, Oh, 16th birthday just like really embarrass them i always thought it'd be the funniest prank yeah to just if you and some friends pooled together it's not that much money especially in aberdeen south dakota if you and some friends just pooled together some money i mean a billboard's pretty damn cheap you could

do the most ridiculous things on it and as long as you're giving them the money they'll let you do it's sort of putting like expletives or vulgar things, they'll let you do almost anything you want. You can do some fun and funny. You know what? I shouldn't give anyone this idea, but you know what I'm still waiting for? Someone else to put a billboard in our town.

Put a billboard up in Aberdeen. You know, someone not from Aberdeen. You know, it would be the funniest thing if like Rascal Apparel put a jorts billboard in Aberdeen. I'd hate to even give them that idea. Because we'd have to start a billboard war with them. But you know how funny that would be for them? Like, we're known for this billboard shtick in Aberdeen.

And, like, nobody from Aberdeen would get it. But that's the thing. Nobody from Aberdeen ever gets the billboard. It's the internet. It's for the laws on the internet. Right. Right. But this billboard is the billboard that makes the most sense out of all of

the billboards we've ever had, because it is actually advertising an event in Aberdeen. Yes. Like this is like the one thing that, yes, we want to get people to show up and make this a really cool special event for people. So it did make sense to have this billboard roll into being a promotional

item for the meet itself yeah yeah it does it it it's cool though it acts part of we were partly to be honest we were even partly worried about this billboard because like oh this billboard's kind of real is that very fun like is it not we don't want it to be too like it actually does make a joke but does it need to be a bigger joke like right is it bad that it's serious in any way we had to walk the line of like because we actually do want to get encourage people to come to the meet and we thought a billboard could be a one possible way to do that and we had to certainly had to walk the line on that because we don't want to be too serious about billboard and we wanted something that when people came to town, because it will still be there.

Oh, that's the big part of it. Yes, it will still be there when people come to town. And that was another thing. We wanted a billboard to be up when people came to town so that they could take photos, see it, be part of that whole thing. So that was also key is making sure that it was around for people. Yes. So that's cool. The Meat, also exciting news, Obs exciting news obsidian pneumonia is on board they

are making a lift hard live easy classic uh special ammonia for the meat big travis is hard at work in his uh scent shop over there uh sniffing and huffing and mixing chemicals things he does he's like an evil scientist isn't he just like boiling pots and beakers all around everything's on a Bunsen burner why is there always this open flame with a Bunsen burner going

don't worry about that is fire needed for ammonia the amount of natural gas I go through in a month is just insane so there is going to be a special ammonia involved The amount of natural gas I go through in a month is just insane. So there is going to be a special ammonia involved there. And one of the sponsors, Tommy D Creative. I don't know if you saw that. They got them on board.

Kind of a big tech guy in case people aren't familiar with it. I heard you're going to do Hell in a a cell royal rumble you uh mark zuckerberg elon musk and elon the ceo of airbnb and the ceo of tinder and yeah we're just all gonna go at it. Last man standing. Hell in a cell. I'd pay to see it. I'd pay to be in it. Yes. Anything else about the meet?

Or that's pretty much... No, people will hear about that plenty over the next few weeks here. Yeah. We're getting shit ready. We'll tell you that much. I had an interesting thing. I'll call this a sack segment, actually. All right.

You want to see a little sack segment? You haven't seen this. I mean, technically, you've sort of seen this, a digital version of this, but you haven't seen what I'm about to show you right now. It's kind of a fun little thing that I got whipped up here. So are you ready for this? I'm very ready. Do you have any idea what I could know?

You're saying a digital version. So I'm thinking it's like apparel, but I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah. Here we go. Version. Oh,

I forgot about that. Yeah. See, this should be coming across. Uh-huh. We've got here. Our mass dynamics trademark. see this should be coming across uh huh um we've got here our massonomics trademark I framed it

so I think I'll probably hang this up at the gym oh god yeah that's an amazing thing to hang up at the gym because people will just all think it's fake then they'll read it and think god this seems really real to be fake this is a very expensive piece of paper is what I'll tell you that I don't know what it does if anything yeah we both got through this process so yeah this is we have officially trademarked the name massonomics right is that what that piece of paper is confirming that's

yes that is where it's the name massonomics it's not even really per se the logo it is the name massonomics and specifically in reference to headwear bottoms as clothing tops as clothing online retail store service featuring t-shirts sweatpants sports singlets headwear short stickers flags banners cups headbands drink insulators and water bottles and also uh 41, which is entertainment services, namely providing podcasts in the field of fitness. So if you're in any of those fields, do not even think about naming your company Masanomics

because we will send a team of lawyers after you with this piece of paper in hand. The U.S. government is essentially going to come and throw you in jail. I don't know if you can read this, but this says, the United States of America, the Patent and Trademark Office, is not going to like to see that. So finally, everyone else can stop using the name Mathenomics like they have been.

We can finally put a name end to all these imposters. All the people that were probably desperately wanting to use this name for their various businesses tanner didn't go fight in a war overseas to have someone take our name and now uncle sam has guaranteed us that right uh after we paid a lot of money to get that yeah like what's this um after we went through that process i've had it occasionally comes up where um you'd be surprised the number of people that i talk to that think that they need to like copyright their little brand and one no you don't need to do that um and two after going through the process i'm like no trust me no i do not need to do that you don't want to do that it's an enormous

waste of money and it's a it's it's sneaky expensive like if you hiring and like also you get part way through the process and like oh it costs a little more money now like for this part of the process and then you're like and then they also go through like and by the way there's no guarantees that we can actually even uh secure any of this either right and like we you get to a sunk cost fallacy fork in the road, even at times where we almost were like, oh, fuck, is this even worth it anymore? Like, do we just, like, can we, there was, I could have seriously considered

just canning it even after having sunk a decent bit of money. I mean, we're not talking like we spent, we didn't spend like tens of thousands on this. No, no, but like enough money that I'd rather have it. It started, because did we do this through LegalZoom? Is that how we did this? Yeah.

And I think it initially started like $700 or something. I think maybe the number was even lower than that to start. And it was like, Oh, that seems like nothing to do. And then it's just like every week you get an email and it was like a couple hundred more dollars, a couple hundred more dollars.

You're like, what are we doing here? Yes. Kept going on and on for a dumb piece of paper. But now it's ours. Yeah, at the end of the day, we can hang this piece of paper in Masonomics Gym and make an Instagram post of it. So can you put a price on that?

I mean, I think you can say that it will pay for itself in that case, for sure. We will get hundreds of likes and a couple of comments on that Instagram post. Well, if everything goes according to plan. That's true. If Instagram decides to show our post that day they allow it yeah then it'll be hilarious well i'm glad i kind of actually forgot that even existed i never got closure on that so um i might have to might have to have you fax me over a copy of that so i can pin it on my wall here we have a fax machine out i have one at work if you need me to have you fax me over a copy of that so I can pin it on my wall here. We have a fax machine. I have one at work if you need me to send you a fax.

You're kind of a tech guy. You probably know about fax machines. Yeah, I also don't have a fax machine, so I can't get too far. Matt, I matted this. I can tell. It's great. Background beige. What do you call that?

Like a beige or something yeah it'd be really funny if there was like a picture of like a really high ranking political person on there to like it would look like that they somehow signed off on this approval it is like if joe biden's picture was on the bottom it'd be like did he single-handedly approve of this copyright this is stamped and signed by Catherine Kelly Vidal, who is the director of the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Oh, there you go. That's pretty official. What more could you need than that? I don't know. Would you say Kelly?

Dr. Kelly? Catherine. Dr. Catherine. Catherine Kelly Vidal. Catherine Kelly. It doesn't even say doctor. Oh, I'm adding stuff to it. I don't even think this woman has a PhD. Well, you don't need to she works in the she's in charge of the office i mean what would a phd do there good enough for government work that's right

uh amazing i can finally sleep comfortably tonight knowing that that is done been sleeping so restlessly these last three years thank god it's done so that we can't spend any more money on it. It saved us from ourselves. Yes. Okay. Well, there's a few other things there. Do we want to hit on any of those hot topics that you've still got there? I don't know. Okay, I got to ask you. You know what's funny to me thinking about it the other there? I don't know.

Okay, I got to ask you. You know what's funny to me thinking about it the other day? I forget it even exists. Cologne. I thought about this recently. I have thought about this at length recently. Really recently.

Maybe I saw this in there and it made me think about it or something. I don't even know why I would have thought of this. We were at dinner with some friends and someone, I don't even know how it came up. And someone goes, wait, do you, do you, it was talking to the guys. Like, do you guys wear cologne? I'm like, no, I'm not like 21 trying to.

Or 60. Yeah. Like for him, not like freshly going to the bars thinking I'm picking up chicks with cologne. Like, like that's, that's who wears cologne, right? Also, that's a fallacy anyways, isn't it? I think. I don't know.

I don't like that stuff, personally. I don't like it. I don't know. It gives me a headache. I don't want to smell strong smells of any kind, really, preferably. Yeah. Good or bad or not. You know, I'd rather...

What smells good to me is like not a smell like neutral right uh just clean um yeah with cologne it goes to the whole thing of with guys especially it's probably changed a little bit but if you're in your 30s or older there's probably like two names that like stick out and that'd be like david off cool water and like curves for him or whatever like those were both like yeah it just felt like the cologne that guys all had in the earlier 2000s like that was the thing everyone had those damn colognes i had a nicer one that i bought from like her burgers when i was maybe like a junior in high school i think i still have that around somewhere like i never got you have to use it so much to use any of it you know i have a it's probably 20 years old by now and i i mean i haven't used it in 15 years probably or you know like like i quit using that but i used to i guess

like when i was probably changed drastically if you were to spray it when i was 21 i think i did use like put that on i remember occasionally putting it on like before i go out like oh cologne here we go we got to put this on yeah i would never consider doing that now there is no no that's that's what seemed so funny to me is when it brought up it was like no why on earth why on earth would i put that on now well maybe that's part of uh when you're not like on the when you're not like uh you're not on the prowl right right whole sex but is that helpful or is it just like oh here's let me check all the boxes just in case like i gotta yeah i gotta make sure everything is just everything is that

possibly can work in my favor is going well i can't you don't want to smell bad yeah but also i'm like oh i'm just gonna shower before we go out and like if you smell bad. But also, I'm like, oh, I'm just going to shower before we go out. If you smell bad, cologne isn't going to be the saving factor there. You still smell bad. Now you're just going to smell bad mixed with cologne, which is even worse. You know? I think what's really bad, though, is if people wear too much of it, though. That's terrible. Oh, God, yeah, and it chokes you out.

You've probably had a job. It seems like every time you have a job somewhere, there's at least one guy that works there. And like he is a heavy cologne user and like his smell just permeates through the entire office. Like you can tell. So just think, though, they're doing that every day before they even go to work. I bet those people don't even smell it anymore, though, you know, because it's they can't. Their car is totally so. Yeah, it's I would imagine the rooms of their house.

It's like it's like a smoker at that point. Like it's just in the fabric of their house, the fabric of their house, it's like a smoker at that point. It's just in the fabric of their house, the fabric of their car. It's in their office. It's in all their clothes. You were saying how you have a shirt that you think stinks, even though it gets washed.

You know their clothes just smell like it forever. It's just who they are. It's part of them. That'd be really weird to put that on. Hashtag goals, right? Yeah. I'm not criticizing anyone that wears it. It's just a weird thought to me.

Yeah, it's just so not part of who I am. And I think women get a pass on perfume because women's whole thing is they always smell like something, it seems like. Right. So I don't have any. But did perfume ever, were you ever like, ooh, I like that woman's perfume.

She's the one for me not really maybe subconsciously there's something that we don't know like because they say you know like pheromones yeah like different things like that but i'm i don't know if i'm buying that i know i'm not sure i am either so that was my that was just my thoughts on cologne recently that was my, that was just my thoughts on cologne recently. I do think that it's funny. What about brute? Dude.

Oh, do you ever have brute? Um, what about ax body spray for that? Oh, I hate that. Ax was the worst. Cause that came out when we were in middle school, which meant that so many middle school boys who already have terrible hygiene.

It's like, Oh, I can cover it up with that. I can just spray this and i smell clean and like the number of times so many people have rotten old shirts that have like they you take them off the hanger and they're hard exactly i was gonna say like this just shows how this just this just like a line universal middle school boys thought was like oh okay let's see i had gym class i got really sweaty in these clothes i put in my, left them, these sweaty clothes in this gym bag,

all weekend. It might have been a long holiday weekend. Came back, sweaty-ass clothes in there. It's like, hey, hold it up. And then it's like you're spray painting it with Axe. Like, it's good. Covering every square inch of it with Axe. It's like, no, it's not good.

It smells really shitty, actually. And guys would do that. Like, locker rooms would smell so bad because there'd be so much Axe in the air, you know? Oh, yeah, definitely. So gross, too. But did you ever see that where people would take a shirt and it would actually be rigid? I don't know if I remember that. I remember that, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Football's the worst. I mean, football's the best, but also football. For smells is the worst. Football, terrible hygiene and clothing items is socially acceptable in the sport of football. Your pads just smell terrible, and there's nothing you can do to change that. No. You know?

The pads thing is gross, if you think about it, like what those do, because you wear them all season, then you put them back in this like closet and then you check out and you probably have somebody's that were somebody else's last season and somebody's before that. And just handed down through the years. Just like even I was having this conversation about shoes was actually talking about it with with my son or somebody else. I can't remember now. But yeah, like like you i get that you want to have cool basketball shoes like fashion like is relevant in the sport of basketball in football it was almost a contest to see who could have the shittiest shoes it was like no i want to

like you want to look like you want to look tough like just war torn and just destroyed right i remember that it was like no it was like we want these you know like but i also think part of that too was that aesthetic of like the time when we were growing up it was it was the same thing of football i mean like just recently has the gym aesthetic changed a little bit because forever that was also the gym aesthetic is like no that's true you want like when we talked to evan centipani or however you say his last name like the holiest that was the look it's like we know a few guys that have like taken that to an absolute extreme personally,

to a bad way, like actually have shirts that are probably 20 years old that are essentially see-through older. Yeah. I mean, the shirts actually had a date on them. They were older than 20 years old and they are essentially see-through because they'd been worn and washed and sweated so many times.

There was nothing left. It was just the thinnest. It was like a was like a sheer it wasn't even clawed it was like sheer at that point but um even like in wrestling i remember that it was still like the also wrestling pride was just have wrestling shoes that were just destroyed and all of your sweats were just the most disgusting ripped torn stained ruined thing possible um but there has been such a push in the last 10 years of like athleisure wear and like elevated you know gym like gym stuff has become so much more socially acceptable to wear outside of the gym anyways that that has now seeped into the gym where it's more fashionable and uh but yeah that has definitely been a thing

that's changed like when i think about the clothes that people wore to practices and things like that when i was in high school man it was all like trash clothes it seemed like well everyone i played with had a like this under shirt football shirt that was like the raddiest raddiest old shirt you could ever find like that was like a point it's like oh yeah this was from eighth grade football camp and i'm a senior in high school and i probably worn this for 10 000 practices but also i was in the transition period uh we mostly still wore jerseys that were big and baggy and like that people would tuck the jersey under their pat like fucking brian bosworth you know like uh like that was still the we everyone had the the very mesh jerseys you know like the big like it was just

that like my last year that one of ours changed to like more what you consider for actual jerseys you're saying just a game jersey oh everyone's practice jersey was like that but the practice jerseys were even like that up until like my last year and i think in south dakota like that honestly was more of a small school thing where i think a lot of the smaller schools did have almost almost more of the crop top, you know, Jersey. Yeah. That's what we, that's what people wore. Cause we didn't, we never had that ever. That was never part of our thing, but that did just make me think though,

like how you wear the same clothes and sweating them. It's funny that football pants, like you wear your practice pants all week and just sweating them and you just put them on every day. It's like, no, no, these are just the same pants you just wear. That's just how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. Football stuff stuff i don't know where what that started from but football as a sport and i think wrestling's in that same boat and probably hockey for all i know where it's like i would no no it's almost cool but basketball i always thought differently where it's like no you kind of like it's important to look cool when you're playing

basketball has way more of a style well but yes basketball was for sure the first one to me that had that style factor now that has seeped into all sports so much more now though true you know right right but still football shoes cleats are still like the most like i don't know what cleats do people it's not like people are needing to wear the jordans or the durance or you know and stuff like that and football cleats it's like but they're still the black cleats. Yeah. But now the big thing is like all the NFL,

they all have their special edition, like airbrushed ones that are for their cause, you know, like they all have their, like, that is a thing. And then also are like the consumers then buy. I don't think they get that as much, but like Jordan. And then they were like making Yeezy cleats for a while. Like, I mean, they do get hyped, but it just isn't as much as shoes that you could wear during the week i mean no matter how cool your football

cleats are you can't wear them anywhere besides right that's probably the biggest difference between because people wear basketball shoes are fashion shoes and basketball shoes where cleats but nowadays also basketball shoes are not that though you know like oh right real basketball yeah like like yeah but like in the 90s that's the 90s basketball shoes that's what they were i had to laugh today tanner when got lunch or went down the street to go somewhere for lunch today and our waitress had on the air max are the air up tempo 96 is that what they are awesome and i'm like they were the white ones with the black outline of Air. And I'm like, I've probably never seen a woman wear these shoes ever.

And I just thought it was funny to see our waitress having those on. Well, the last time I saw a woman wear those was probably in about 2000 when I watched high school basketball women wear those, or maybe even 2000. 2000-ish, yeah. I remember seeing some girls from our high school that had those. Really?

Oh, yeah. I remember one guy having those. He had the all black ones with the white outline. Yeah, those are my favorite. I mean, I just like black, of course. Yeah, and I thought those looked so cool. I had no clue what they were. I was in elementary school and this guy was way older.

He was at like the place in town that had the basketball courts that you go to. And I'm like, damn, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I'm not a sneaker head, but someday I'll probably buy a pair of sneakers. You're really leaving the door open on that one. Not on the secondhand market though.

I have to wait until they release it. Reebok released the Shack Gnosis once not too long ago. I almost thought about buying a pair. I thought about buying a pair. Couldn't bring myself to do it. But there's been times since if they would have been available again, not through the secondhand market, that I would have bought them. The Air Upttempo 96 yeah um they always like that shoe nike still is kind of

always putting out there's so many different versions of it so there's a lot of different versions and then the colorways some of them are like intentionally bad like in the stores around here they had an all black with purple letters for air and i'm like this has to be one of the worst colorways i've ever seen this shoe in it looked terrible and then they do the other thing where the the air stays on the upper but sometimes they have the air the letters extend down to the and are the midsole and i don't think that that looks as good i don't think that that looks good either no see that's i don't like all those bad versions of it i like the very traditional white and black or black and white like but they know they know that's what people want so that's why they don't

release that right because then it right keeps the hype up on them keeps it more up tempo that's right so wow what do we start was that cologne is that how we got there i think so that wraps officially wraps up cologne that's good speaking of uh speaking of consumer items that you can buy that are very fashionable have you have uh are you familiar with at all with spud ink you know i'm slightly familiar but i'd like to know more uh you check them out over at spud-ink-straps.com. And today I want to do a spud ink roulette where I'm just going to wave my – Oh, you crazy SOB. What are you going to do next? Then I'm just going to click on something. I don't know what I'm even – ooh, chains.

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Yeah. That is impressive. Soaks, spills, and plugs unwanted unwanted openings tanner you should get some of these for the spring flooding that happens in the gym throw a few of these down soak that right up i got scared uh we've actually gotten a decent bit of rain yeah there has been almost two inches hasn't it yeah we've gotten has it been raining in uh down south there i mean it has but nothing like crazy oh yeah the crops could really use it though oh man i just keep thinking man we needed this that's all i think when i see it raining we really needed this uh we we got a couple good shots of rain and i always wonder about the basement at the gym but it's been

really good there's been no issues they redid some sump pump stuff and i think maybe it uh took care of it or maybe we haven't had anything significant enough yet to really is that was really push the limits was that happening in the spring or was it happening with summer rains before both really like just a minor varying levels but let's see it was like a year ago that in the summer last year that shit really got wild for a while there where it was a legitimate. I was like, oh, this is bad. Yeah. But it seems to be better. So that's that's good.

But I did get scared. Somebody messaged me the other day that there was a leak in the gym. This was like when it was raining. And I was like, oh, crap, it must be coming up through the floor again. But it was actually a leak from above. Oh, boy. Yeah, that's there was someone. Yeah. And I was actually a leak from above oh boy yeah that's happened there was someone yeah and i was like oh okay well that's different that's a different

thing you know because we are another level so there's some water above that there was that time it was minor spilled like a can of coke and somehow it made it all the way down through the cement floor under the wooden platform yeah just crazy that was when we were just in uh just the one side the first iteration of Mass. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I remember that well. We were being so confused. Like, you're looking around, and then you look up, and you're like, wait, it's on the ceiling, and it came down here?

That doesn't even make sense. That's the things you experience when you run Mass Anomics Gym, I guess. Coke spills from the floor above. They're everywhere. Uh, did we have any, we kind of have touched a little bit on sports, but do we have any formal sports and books for this week? Sports. Those golf leagues came together. That's old news, right?

Now at this point, yeah, that is technically old news. Yes. Uh, anything else? Sports. It's kind of, uh, I think lsu won college baseball which i believe i saw that i couldn't possibly care much less if it wasn't for instagram i would not even know that was a thing yeah um what else is going on in sports is there anything it's kind of a slow time a year for sports it is kind of a slow time a year isn't it yeah it was the nba draft not too long ago yeah that guy from france or whatever yeah

what's his he's my god he's tall and scary god i know it's like that kid uh i think he's on the thunder that he was hurt this year so he didn't play uh what's his name i can't see i can't remember these guys it's the same body i'm like what are these body types that you're the you're the slender man like somebody put you in a funny mirror and took a normal-sized guy and just stretched them out so there was no mass left. It was just like a tall, skinny man that doesn't even have to jump to dunk it.

So it's Wemby. I don't even know if that's how you say it. I'm assuming Wemby or, well, I mean, it's longer than that. But I saw a meme and it was like, it was him walking in a suit and it's like, Wemby walking in a suit looks like when the three little rascals are trying to get approved for a bank loan and i'm like dude it's so true because it's so long and awkward looking oh yeah that's funny the dude is enormous though

like if he can stay healthy it seems like he should be pretty insane i think dudes like that gotta put a little bit of weight on. Although Kevin Durant never did hardly, but like you got to do, that's not not like, that's not helpful to make an NBA season to be that they're frail. Like there's no way that person isn't right. Right. Just your durability is so low when you have that little amount of muscle to

just stabilize things and protect you. You know what I mean? You're're gonna go against men like grown ass men that like that I don't know maybe that's a not the correct way maybe I'm incorrect I don't think he needs to gain 70 pounds but it probably would hurt him to gain like 20 or 30 when he's that tall

I bet if he gained 20 or 30 pounds you wouldn't even know I don't think he would stretched out over seven feet. You're like, yeah, it's like, yeah, he just needs a little more. It needs to be a little something there. Like, it's got to be like, that dude could jump higher if he got like a little bit more. Like, I can't see visible muscle on him. According to the Spurs, they have his official height at seven feet, three and a half inches.

It's enormous. And his wingspan has to be crazy, too, because it doesn't look like... He might almost be able to not jump and dunk just about. He barely moves and can dunk it. Well, this says with shoes on, they say he's 7'5", which, I mean, yeah, that is insane. Yeah, there's no way you can't.

I mean, you can dunk easy on the ground still at that point, right? I'm sure he can jump and hang on the rim without. I would think he can stand and grab the rim without jumping. I would sure think so, yeah. Yeah. So there's sports. How about books? Yeah, I don't have anything uh i don't have anything to add there this week no it's tough to always have something to add to the book to just

be reading every week like come on give me a break i wish if i i wish i didn't have anything uh not don't really but like it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if i didn't if i didn't have that much to do i could certainly spend a lot more time reading oh yeah and i wouldn't i wouldn't dislike that that'd be an enjoyable way to spend uh spend a good bit of time every day and then you'd have that garage full of books that you've been after all these years you think these car you think these weights are cool yeah how about these books cooler than weights books you know what's cooler than weights sports and books sports and books all right should we close this one out on a high note i think so yep i think so all right uh make sure to check out the items from the new drop we

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