Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 381: Evan T-Rex Singleton

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Big Evan T-Rex Singleton joins us for this one fresh off his big Giants Live win at Royal Albert Hall. We talk to him about his Jurassic Park memorabilia collection, Jared from Subway, Shoofly pie, an...d sumo deadlifting. We also talk a bit about The Shaw Classic coming up next month. Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://store.thestrength.co/ BearFoot Shoes: https://bearfoot.store/ and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.
Starting point is 00:00:16 If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Welcome everyone for episode 381 of the Massanomics podcast. We are the lifting podcast about NIRFN and my name is Tanner and over here we've also got Tommy on the mic today. I'm also here with my boy. He's trying to skip bedtime apparently yeah we both had that same uh we both had that same thing going on tonight i just had my finger on that mute button ready to go that's all part of the life of never missing an episode of the podcast in 381 weeks you know sometimes you just fall with the punches your family has to suffer
Starting point is 00:01:05 that's all part of podcasting putting the family last putting a heavy territory making it very burden burdensome for your spouse and children and that it does why we laugh and joke around for a couple of hours. Yep, yep, 100%. This is episode 381. We've got a fun one planned today. We're going to have Big Evan T-Rex as our guest this week. We also got a lot of fun topics to touch on. We're recording this on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:01:42 By the time you hear this, that means we just wrapped up the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic. So we're going to talk a little bit about that again, because we're going to talk about that every week for the next like five years. Until we get into Arnold prep, right? Yes. We have to let the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic carry us until it's time to talk about the Arnold again. It's called content. That's how it works. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:07 again it's called content that's how it works yes but first i want to fill you guys in on uh i want to fill you in on on spud ink straps i'm going to play spud ink straps roulette and spud ink straps roulette is where i close my eyes and just kind of try and try and uh uh pick randomly pick oh i thought it was where you got tied up with some of their straps and then they whipped you with one of their attachments. To be honest, we've all been there before, haven't we? I'm closing my eyes right now, and I'm coming up on their wrist straps, just classic old wrist straps. I'm looking at the cotton-heavy 60-centimeter wrist straps.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So they've got a whole bunch of different lengths and stiffnesses of wrist straps and actually styles um if you're ever in the market to try a new pair of wrist straps i would check out spud ink pretty much anything you can fit in a bit jim bacon find out spud ink and they also have free shipping on all orders 75 or more they're good friends of the massomics podcast please support them they support us we'd like if you could help us support them in return let them know your good buddies at massonomics sent you and today's episode is also brought to you by texas power bars and specifically their new 29 millimeter power bar um this thing is brand new it's been out for what tanner a month now maybe
Starting point is 00:03:24 maybe a month yeah maybe a month has yours shown up yet oh it's in the new it's been out for what tanner a month now maybe maybe a month yeah maybe a month has yours shown up yet oh it's in the gym it's sitting there and it's actually sitting in there in the corner in a sleeve just uh i don't know why i haven't taken it out oh like it's still in this like it hasn't yeah okay okay i i've just actually been quite busy and i i have opened it up and boy i don't know what the what you're going to read or what it will say about the knurling on that 29 millimeter texas power bar but that knurling is sharp is it really it oh my god i you if you haven't felt a new texas power bar recently or ever you will be taken aback by how aggressive the knurling is on this well it
Starting point is 00:04:06 says right here aggressive knurl they weren't lying it is not lying especially you know uh yeah it is it is freaking sharp like you you would not drop a deadlift due to a slipped grip on that bar i will guarantee you that all right good to Well, I can't wait to see that thing. I am going to see that in person in a few days here. But yeah, the 29 millimeter Texas power bar, you heard Tanner's review, and he hasn't even used the damn thing yet, and he's impressed.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Starts at a very affordable price of $315. That is a really good deal. It's got a great deal at the aggressive neural that you're all looking for comes in bare steel or black zinc shaft and also on sleeves you have a choice of chrome or bare steel as well
Starting point is 00:04:54 a moth flew into my beard while you were reading that ad I was reading the ad so I had this pulled up and I saw you doing something on your face there. I'm concerned it's going to nest in there now. A whole family of moths will be moving in. I'm going to have balls in your beard. Moth holes in my beard.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You're going to eat through holes in my beard. But if you want a Texas Power Bar of your own, make sure to hop over to TexasPowerBars.com and while you're there, tell them Massanomics sent you. Yeah, what I did in the gym, I did open it up out of the sleeve and just pulled it out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And on Saturday morning, I had some of the crew. I was like, you got to feel this thing. And it was like Caden and Larry and Justin and Corey. And everyone was like, holy shit. So is this a more aggressive knurling than what we typically have? I don't know if it is more aggressive than like the you know if it's changed over the 10 years like when we would have bought that or if it's just just when it is so fresh and so new or if it is more aggressive on the 29 but
Starting point is 00:05:56 it is how new is the how new is the newest power bar that we have texas power bar that we have in the gym yeah i mean they're all fairly used at this point aren't they right they're all they are all fairly used at this point not counting like the deadlift bar the squat bar like that's different right right we do have a squat bar that's fairly probably the newest one is probably that one of sergeant anderson's that he took from yes yeah and even that was technically kind of older too isn't it it? A little bit, I think, yeah. It had been around a while. So, yeah, I mean, it's probably been over five years since anyone's touched a brand new one, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, probably. Yeah. Frickin' aggressive. Aggressive as frick, that bar. I like that we both got the memo that the red power shirt is the one to wear tonight. I did not notice that literally until you just said that right now.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I know we get on and we talk our pre-show stuff and it never even occurred to me that we were wearing the same shirt. What are the odds of it being this shirt too? I mean, we have a huge closet. I almost never wear this one because it's a large and I basically wear extra large in all of the shirts now this one because it's a large, it's a large, and I basically wear extra large in all of the shirts now.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And so it's a little tighter than what I prefer. So yeah, I rarely wear it anymore. It was in the top of the pile. And I thought, Hey, I haven't worn this shirt in forever. I can't wait to wear it tonight. And then here you are wearing the same thing. We're going to bust out some raw power on this episode, I guess, aren't we? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I'm pretty thirsty. I don't know how you're feeling over there as far as just parched i am quite thirsty thank thank the good lord i've got this mass dynamics drink spotter right here with a licroy in it i think you'll drink some licroys this weekend i'm gonna drink so much of everything this weekend. It's just, I don't know what I'm going to drink the most of. I really don't. A lot of water, a lot of beer, a lot of sparkling water. A lot of bourbon too, apparently, according to the Discord. Well, I'm not going to drink a lot of bourbon. I know that.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I will try some bourbon. I've probably said this before, but bourbon is one of those things I would like to like. I'm like, oh yeah. Actually, here this before, but bourbon is one of those things I would like to like. I'm like, oh, yeah. Actually, here's my here's my hypothesis on bourbon. Out of everyone that says they like bourbon, I only believe 50 percent of them actually like bourbon and half of them are just pretending to. So I'll say this. I if if we were sitting down and someone like gave me. OK, assuming we're like actually are this weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:25 So we were there to just unwind and have a good time, which we are. And someone gave me a glass of bourbon. I would not, I could totally tolerate it and put up with it. And by the end, I'll probably even enjoy it. Like there was a stretch like last winter where it would be at night.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Everyone went to bed on the weekend. I'd pour like a short glass of bourbon, throw a little bit of ice in there. You know, at first it's pretty strong, but the ice dilutes it down a little bit, get just a little more mellow by the end. And by the end, I'm like, Ooh, I'm feeling pretty good. And this isn't too bad now, but I a hundred percent get it when people don't like it. Well, that's, that's why I only think half the people are telling the truth. Cause I do believe some people like it, but I don't believe everyone. I believe some people just want to like it like me.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I think that falls in line with a lot of things. Bourbon, certain beers, IPAs, cigars, things like that. I think there's a lot of things. People don't really like to like it, but they like the idea of liking it. Yeah, I love the idea of liking all that stuff but then also i have a hard time liking stuff that i don't think tastes good just gotta trick my brain into it that's that's uh but i suppose there was a point in my life i didn't think coffee tasted good right i used to actually just i was like oh that stuff is disgusting and i'm like a good
Starting point is 00:09:46 coffee actually like when uh i'm so used i drink work coffee all the time you know through our you could say that's our you could say that's a real coffee well it kind of in a way it is that's like depending on your definition of their coffee you know right like that's kind of like real coffee but um when big jake bowley was here and we shot some YouTube videos, the one morning he brought me just a plain coffee from like Caribou Coffee. And I was like, oh, my God, this is really good. You didn't notice like that much of a difference? Yeah. I was like, I like the coffee I usually drink.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Don't get me wrong. But I'm like, this is exceptionally good coffee. It's just like a cheap cup of coffee yeah and it was just a black coffee but it almost tasted like sweet and it was just black you know i don't know how to describe that but i'm like oh my god this is like crack if i knew i don't know what crack tastes like probably like black coffee right yeah i don't know if crack has a taste even i guess uh well that's a good tool people can know if they ever want to really impress tanner just give him a cup of coffee from anywhere that's not work
Starting point is 00:10:49 from our own like he's like our like our particular coffee pot probably gets like you know 15 cup pots uh carafts actually caraft is the right vessel. Fifteen carafe's of coffee go through a day. It's better that he said that he got it from Caribou rather than like, oh, I just made it in my hotel coffee maker. Oh my God, I've been making it wrong my whole life. Where do you put the shit in it? Because mine tastes way more like shit. Austin, it is shit.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's a bit nutty. It's never the wrong time for an Austin Powers reference, if you ask me. No, it is not. Nobody has ever made an Austin Powers reference and me be like, dude, wrong place and time, man. Yeah, you'd have to really be trying to do that one wrong to not get the sign of approval. It'd be like a good Anchorman reference to me. I'd be like, it always has a place.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yep, yep, just never gets old. So we have Tanner, we've hinted at, or we've said a little bit actually I'm already we've talked out long enough that I forgot already what we've said on air and off air but the meat this is meat week which has meant meant that it is so hard to focus on anything in life that's not meat related it's almost hard to podcast tonight it is it is like no we got we got shit to be doing which actually we got nothing to be doing right this second but your brain is thinking of like like, four days ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You're just, like, living in the future. It's hard to live right now. My brain hasn't unplugged for, like, a week now, and I'm feeling it like I need a couple nights of straight-up crashing because I'm mentally exhausted already from like everything that, with everything that's going on, to tell you the honest to God truth. I am like, I even am right now at this moment,
Starting point is 00:12:51 I'm like, I am burned a little bit, like just a little fried on it. I think you would agree. We're incredibly well-prepared right now. Like we've, I mean, we've had so many calls, like we've done, it's almost funny to think we ever ran the strong man event with how much preparation we put into this compared to those. And I mean, there was a lot of preparation that went into those, but it
Starting point is 00:13:13 feels like we've done so many things here. Uh, thought of things ahead of time and this being our first event of this kind too. I mean, I really do feel like we've checked all the boxes. I think we've, I think we have a really good event put together for people. I think I don't, I don't even care. We said, we talked about the meat last week and we weren't going to talk about it as much this week, but that's all we're all we're all we're doing.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So I can't not talk about it, but I feel like we've got so many little touches in place that it is going to make this a really cool experience for the lifters. I think like there is just so many, yes, the lifters, especially like fans already are going to, if you show up to watch, you're going to have a good really cool experience for the lifters i think like there is just so many yes the lifters especially like fans already are gonna yeah if you show up to watch you're gonna have a good show but yes the lifters we have so many things in place for them that it's like oh show up in western northeast south dakota and let us be your let us be your guide for the weekend
Starting point is 00:13:59 let's i i you know i think at the end it, we won't have many people that walk away that have competed before. And they'll all say, like, this is the funnest meet. You know, I mean, it's like, I think it'll be no contest, honestly. I'm 100% biased. And, of course, I'm going to say that. But I do believe that to be true. Like, I described it because there was some conversation in the Discord of what the future holds for more years of Lift Hardly Busy Classic. We don't know that as of yet, but it's very possible that it's a thing that continues and grows for all we know at this point. And obviously, Western Northeast South Dakota isn't the most common place to travel to.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Or exactly the easiest place to travel to either. place to try either but our thing is we make this so cool and so much fun that people are almost like yeah i have no choice but i i i can't not go back to that yeah next year you know like you build it they will come right right and if you build it really well they can't not come because i'm like well no i just do not want to miss that and i feel like that's what we're working you know i feel like that's what we're on track for i mean yeah and also like this is just as much a massonomics party as it is a meet and we're throwing a party we want to throw the coolest funnest party we can and that's what we're doing so we've taken we've got a lot of surprises uh just a lot of little treats and things spread out through the whole weekend that are going to be a great time.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yes. Yeah, it's going to be great. I think we're, I think we are on track, right? I mean, we're going to get there. Can't hold anything back now, right? We cannot hold it. We literally cannot hold anything back now. If we've been holding back up to this point, we have to stop.
Starting point is 00:15:40 We've ignored the warnings of the last nine months. I don't know what we've said of merchandise, but I was counting today, I think we have at least five pieces of brand new merchandise that are going to be unveiled at the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic. Which is very exciting. Yeah, I don't know what will be left in the aftermath, but if there is stuff left, some of them might go for sale on the website eventually.
Starting point is 00:16:05 But the people that made the trip are going to do get dibs. They could clear it out. We'll see how that goes. One thing I did notice, though, Tanner, and I've... You had a, I think it was a snap yesterday, of a shopping cart in Target, I believe. Oh, yes. And it was supplies for this weekend for friday nights yes for friday for the pre-party but my first thought wasn't what's in the cart
Starting point is 00:16:32 or what did he get or any of that my first thought was is tanner in the store or is his wife taking those pictures and sending them to him no that's what the that's the answer i really want to know i actually went in the store to pick out to pick out the beers because i wanted to window i wanted to browse the beers i was kind of excited about browsing uh beers because uh also since my wife is pregnant i'm like yeah this i need you know between water and beer i'm not gonna make you move all we bought like 30 cases of liquid. So I'm like, I better go to actually physically carry this stuff. And I did want to browse.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Okay. I went with a variety. I don't know if you paid attention to the beer choices, but I tried to get a variety there of different choices. Yep. Because I think I went Bush Light, Grain Belt, which is kind of a regional delicacy. I think that's good. Good to have in there. I went IPA was the just basically one that I could find in a 12-pack.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Oh, Michelob Ultra. No, I did get Michelob Ultra, though. I did get Michelob Ultra. I also got my favorite IPA, which is Michelob Golden Light. Oh, that's what I meant to say. Yes, yes. I meant to say Michelob Golden Light. I actually have not had one of those, now that you say that, in so long.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I know. I didn't buy any Coors Light, Bud Light, or Miller Light. I think that's good. Yeah. People can have those at home. Yeah, I wanted more of a variety. I can't remember what else was in there but there's you know six seven different kinds of beer i think the ipa was a sam adams
Starting point is 00:18:09 like i don't know summer hazy thing whatever that one is yep always a good choice there and of course lots of sparkling fizzy waters as well like six seven eight different kinds of sparkling waters for people to enjoy that's good good. Yeah, we're ready. Accommodating all tastes. Yes. Oh, is that what you had by meat supplies? Yes. I was very curious who got those meat supplies.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. I actually went to the store. Were you at Target? Is that where you went? Yeah. When was the last time you think you were in Target? Like, has it been a long time? It's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Like, more than a year, you think you were in target like has it been a long time it's been a long time like more than a year you think um i'm not i wouldn't i wouldn't want to guarantee that but that's possible i feel like i've i feel like i i know i went in there one time to uh pick out like uh because caden and mason were in there and i was having them help me with something on a Nintendo switch oh I do remember so I did go in there you know like but that is the first time I've been shopping like that in probably at least that long yeah that is and I do not miss it I was I don't go in and be like I want to come back here more often I'm like yep I'm good something about going in those stores and walking around makes me really tired. It really sucks the life out of me. It does.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Like where I'm just like, it just drains me that I'm like, I just got to leave and like go sit down and recharge for a second. I 100% get what you're saying. But now I love like over the last few years, just ideas going through there and just seeing just the designs the packaging all that stuff like just yeah it's like oh what random shit are people doing now oh like this is kind of a thing and like it's always like oh it just gets the wheels going that's why i mean i also don't mind going but now like i start doing that so much more than i ever used to not a big store guy yeah gotta just takes a different type of person. We actually have a thing now where Walmart just brings our stuff right to our door,
Starting point is 00:20:11 and it costs like nothing. Oh, do they do home delivery, actually? Yeah, it costs like, I don't know, like $50 for a year of unlimited home deliveries or something. I mean, I think it costs like next to nothing. I'm like, yes, yes, sign up for that. That makes things pretty easy yeah it does yeah i didn't even which is interesting that that's what it's moving to that they literally don't even come into our store that's and then like whenever stuff is
Starting point is 00:20:33 wrong because there's a that the trade-off is there's always something like every time yeah without a doubt you have to go into it assuming if you want perfection don't do those things but they always correct it you could be like yeah you didn't bring me any of my stuff they'll be like oh here you go like here's a total refund you know like there's like there's almost maybe they just know your track record to know like make sure you people aren't using it but they just because in theory they should be able to know exactly what you I mean they know exactly what you ordered because of the website. Whoever rings your stuff up is definitely scanning barcodes,
Starting point is 00:21:09 so they should be able to cross-reference that so easily know if you're telling the truth or not. It's weird that there could ever really be even much of wiggle room in there. I just wonder if it's because of the newness and they need people to accept it, that they just have to like be very like well and also like if they don't come into the store then we don't got to worry about them stealing stuff so that's true and like at the end of the day if we could get everyone to not come all of a sudden we almost barely even need a store like we could yeah you know our brick and mortar could be so much cheaper right maybe we we can have five people working this entire store right yeah those are accurate numbers i think too oh god yeah yes uh we've been popping off on youtube
Starting point is 00:21:54 all kinds of good youtube content going on popping off in the in the massonomics metaverse it's been wild over there as far as massonomics has been wild i mean in the youtube scheme of things it's been not wild but for us it's been wild it's been good uh we've been having fun we have been pumping out a new video every single week on youtube we usually post that thursday ish give or take depending on the rest of our massonomics schedule but uh if you're not subscribing to the massonomics youtube you sure as heck should be. Get over there and get subscribed. And last week's video was the, what was I talking, what was it about?
Starting point is 00:22:32 I don't really remember what it was about. Am I strong is on the title. Stop comparing yourself. Not comparing yourself to other members. God, that took me way too long to think of too. Yeah. So check that video out if you haven't it's it's a little bit serious goose now every week's not going to be serious goose we got plenty of silly goose stuff
Starting point is 00:22:50 mixed in there too but every once in a while it gets a little more serious goose on there too tanner's doing what he can to change your perspective and lighten enlighten your mind yes in the world of lifting have you um Are you familiar with our little segment called Supporting Our Supporting Members, Tommy? I've heard of it. I think I've sat through one or two of them in the past. Okay, it's a special little segment. We have the supporting membership options on our website. Anyone can get signed up if they want to.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You head over there, massomics.com slash join. That's where you get signed up if they want to you head over there uh massomics.com join that's where you get signed up there's three dollar option six dollar option lift shorts level several different levels working on up whatever you can find one that fits you you get signed up it's basically perk city population you at that point because you get discount code, access to our very active, exclusive Discord community, exclusive access to that exclusive active community. You get information on our upcoming drops. You get early access into our meets. You get early access on our drops.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You get to listen along live each week like we have supporting members doing right now. And then you also get the chance of getting on this segment getting supported by us supporting you and this week we wanted to support big andrew montoya he was competing this week in canada against some uh top level some real high level man stuff yeah he was going against i think trey mitchell was in that and maxine boudreaux was in there several other strong lifters also mitch hughes was in that group too our neighbor to the north and uh north dakota so big we had a couple dakota lifters representing in that group
Starting point is 00:24:37 of like 12 there's south dakota lifter and a north dakota lifter it was a canadian event so it makes sense right that does kind of make sense actually I hadn't really pieced that together, but why wouldn't they have their neighbors to the north end on it? I don't know how Andrew finished. I believe that wrapped up yesterday, and I don't know what his final placing was, but obviously awesome just to make it to that competition is a big feather in the cap for sure yeah that's like very very high level strongman at that point and then it hasn't come
Starting point is 00:25:15 out yet as the time we're recording it'll actually come out tomorrow but big caden supporting member and member of mass dynamics, is the guest on this week's unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm excited for that one. A guest that I have a lot of insight. Actually, not a lot of insight, but a guest that I personally know. Yes. So if you don't know, that is our sister podcast. It's like our little sister podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:44 So make sure to check them out. Check them out all the places you find the Massanomics podcast. You's like our little sister podcast. So make sure to check them out. Check them out all the places you find the Massonomics podcast. You can find them. Fun stuff. It's like an additional level of Massonomics talk in there. Do you think we'll have an extended supporting or supporting members segment
Starting point is 00:26:00 next week? Oh boy. I don't even know. We're probably not going going to be up carve out the first half of the show for that yeah we're not going to be able to have a guest next week i already know yeah pretty much for sure i have a guest it's next week yeah i don't even know if we'll survive to next week tell you the truth i'm a little i'm a little concerned for myself of making it through like this many long days it's going to be it's going to be so much fun and also so tiring I don't know how I'm going to go to work the following week actually yeah you have a few more duties because you're hosting some
Starting point is 00:26:35 things I'm you know I have the luxury of I'm coming from out of town so I can kind of just you know I'm coming to help set up but at the same time I don't have to do a lot of that groundwork up front the way that you have to on things right I mean it's gonna it's all very much worth it I wouldn't hate to make it sound like I'm complaining because I'm it's I'm as excited for this as I have been for anything in a long time but it does just feel like it should be here now now it's like these last few days I'm like I was even in the gym today and for a while I was the only one in there I'm like where is everyone yeah I'm like, everyone's gone. Yeah, I'm like, it's supposed to be fun.
Starting point is 00:27:09 All these people are going to be here. Where is everyone? Where are all my friends? They're prepping. They're prepping their meat. They couldn't hold anything back, could they? Okay. And for everyone that's coming to the meet this week, you're going to get to see the Strength Co. booth.
Starting point is 00:27:28 They're going to be there in their full glory. We've talked about some of their exclusive items that they have for sale there. I want to fill you in with a little more Strength Co. information here. This is the Strength Company. We've set out to build a better barbell plate on American soil. We ended up here at Wisconsin's legendary Wapaka Foundry. With over 60 years of ironworking experience, the foundry had the knowledge, technology, and processes
Starting point is 00:27:56 to build our weights to our exact specifications. The Strength Company plates are slim but rugged, smooth but easy to grip and electro-coated for durability and to look great in your gym this is the next generation of american iron only available from the strength company i can't wait to go to that booth oh boy it's on one of my top five lists of booths at the LiftArt DVD Classic. Okay, remind me again. You said Grant is coming.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Big D is coming. Is Connor coming? Connor is coming. Big Ron. Oh, yeah, Big Ron is coming. Okay, yeah. Is that everyone from the straight? I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I think so. That's five people. That's like four more than I expected to show up. So that's really good. All right. That's awesome. Today's show is also brought to you by Barefoot Shoes, who will also have a booth at the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic.
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Starting point is 00:29:46 holding in a fizzy water burp while you're reading it mostly every week that happens yes okay okay uh that essentially happens to me every week on the show i just remembered i met uh discord crew member and also uh in the in the live stream right now big colton at the gym the other day oh finally yeah finally you guys are at the same place at the same time was he wearing a mastonomic shirt he wasn't and he goes you know uh he was or wasn't he was not and he's like oh like the first time i don't wear a mastonomic shirt to the gym right he's probably never worn one before i figured there was something going on though because he was overhead pressing more than um pounds, which is a rarity in that gym. So like,
Starting point is 00:30:25 wait, are you big Colton? Yep. So we got, got to connect a little bit there. Always good to meet, meet a crew member, Masonomic supporter in Sioux Falls.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Always, always appreciated. That's good stuff. Then our guest isn't here yet by chance. Is he? No, he is not. Okay. We also,
Starting point is 00:30:44 we've been working on the local media circuit, getting ready for the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic. So some places you can find out, maybe find some Mastodonomics interviews this week, would be SD Sports Scene. Did a little interview with them yesterday. Dakota Broadcasting, one of the radio stations, did a little phone interview with them the other day. yesterday. Dakota Broadcasting, one of the radio stations,
Starting point is 00:31:09 did a little phone interview with them the other day. And then maybe the most in-depth story I think we're going to see from Aberdeen Insider, which, correct me if I'm wrong, but is owned by Aberdeen Magazine. Yes. Or is adjacent to Aberdeen Magazine. As far as I know, it's the same person owns bothen Magazine. Yes. Or is adjacent to Aberdeen Magazine. As far as I know, it's the same person owns both of these. So Aberdeen Insider, which is more like a weekly newspaper, where Aberdeen Magazine is more like a quarterly.
Starting point is 00:31:37 A bi-monthly. Yeah, I think there's six issues. It's like a magazine, six issues in a year. Yeah, so we're not going to be an Aberdeen Magazine, but we are going to be an Aberdeen insider, the newspaper version. You know, we've got to kind of go through the initiation fees. We have to prove ourselves, probably. Yeah, we've got to prove ourselves before we make it to the big leagues.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And the most exciting part is they're interviewing at least one crew member that I know of. Maybe they'll end up being more, but there is at least one secret crew member that they're interviewing. Wait, does this mean there's a new mole? In a way, there is a new mole, yes. That is what I would say.
Starting point is 00:32:14 There kind of is a new mole. I don't think anybody else besides... Someone has super privileged media access to represent us on our behalves. This crew member has been briefed on it and they are... In a funny way, they are uh they are in a funny way they are technically the new mole yeah i would say so interesting whoever and it's um
Starting point is 00:32:33 i won't say where they're from but they might not even be from you know they might not be a local person if you're suspecting they're local you may be wrong yeah we had to run them through some very intense media training make sure they were polished, gave the correct answers, and they passed. Yeah, they are an active Discord crew member. I can't wait to see that newspaper clipping show up. I'm excited to see what pans out from that one exactly. But, you know, I've been on a couple calls. I'm actually meeting with them at the gym tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I think to talk more about it. Awesome. So there might be something actually substantial that comes out of that one. I like it. Very cool. That one should be fun. I just want to know who this mole is. Everyone wants to know who the mole could possibly be this time.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So when will this article come out? Would it be like next week? I don't know. I don't know what day of the week theirs comes out, but it seemed like they hinted out that it would be like this week. I don't really know. Do you know when they're talking to the mole on this? I think maybe also tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Oh, okay. So it could come out this week then. Yeah. I don't know if they were waiting until this weekend to have the talk about it or if it was. I don't really know. Actually, I'm not really sure. I mean, it would work out better for us if it was out by like Friday. People would know about it then, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Right, right. And that might be the intention. Okay. I've had enough of these conversations with different people and stuff. I'm kind of like don't remember details. Right. Yeah, I don't blame you okay we don't want to talk about apples do we um i mean technically we got enough time to yeah i'm hoping you know what that is because i don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:34:17 oh i think you put that in there did i really oh i remember this is i thought for sure you're gonna be like oh i got a funny story about some apples i gotta tell you how you like these apples i was i was waiting to just kick back and have you explain some stuff to me but tell you tell you a really good apple story yeah i remember this was actually from we oh do you see this right now yeah i don't know um did i do that uh i don't someone's sharing her screen i don't want to share my screen uh the hell's going on here tanner oh co-editing evan singleton's whiteboard oh big evan in here i don't know how how he got into a whiteboard man um oh oh no oh yes there okay the crew's messing with us i don't know how they started a damn whiteboard um i remember what
Starting point is 00:35:19 this apple we had a technical difficulty there but uh i remember what i've seen that before yeah i haven't either i remember what this apple was i put that in there the day they announced the vr headset or their ar headset and that was now like what a month or two ago yeah and we we were podcasting we're busy that night we had so many topics that uh we never talked about it now it's been long enough i feel like it's not really relevant for us to even talk about it. When does that come out? Like this year? I think it's either the end of this year or early next year. I actually forgot already.
Starting point is 00:35:50 It's not super high on my priority list being it's going to be like $3,600 or something like that. So I'm sure it'll be cool, but I'll probably be sitting it out for a while. So, yeah, that's all I got there. Nothing too crazy. I did, you know, I've heard some about that. We've talked about the Lex Friedman podcast and you talked about Matt, Matthew McConaughey on there.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I did listen to that episode and oh my God, he is like, uh, uh, like I'm like, oh yeah, he is that same. That is what he is.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Like he's like the character, that guy. Yeah. He's kind of like the character from Wolf of Wall Street, isn't he? Like, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:26 he absolutely is. And I'm like, I just can't believe people talk like that. Well, you also, you say, I mean, to act like that is a privilege of being incredibly rich. Right. I mean, if you acted like that almost in any other job, they'd be like, okay, just say some goddamn words. Like, quit talking in no man's land. That's a good point. Yeah, that is a privilege and a luxury to be able to act like that that's a i think that that's a really good point that actually is because that's my first thought i'm like i don't
Starting point is 00:36:53 know anyone that talks even remotely like that but i think that that's a great point because nobody can talk like that because they'd be like uh it's like if you if you're fired like do something yeah if you listened and he doesn't do them now, but if you used to listen to like interviews with Kanye West, it's the same thing. You're like, dude, you're saying words that aren't even like related to what we're talking about. And then you're like, you get done telling your story. You're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And people are like, am I supposed to clap? I don't even know that had nothing to do with what we were talking about. But, um, yeah. Hey, it, it is entertaining. That's for sure. But he's on a different wavelength, isn't he? It is like a different wavelength. That's a good way of explaining it, I think,
Starting point is 00:37:31 where it just is like a little bit. I'm like, that's what people are like? I don't know any people that are like that. And it's great to have people like that in the world, but man, the world would not work if it was full of only people like that. He does say stuff exactly what you're talking about though where he talks and he finishes something i'm like i'm lost like and it's not like uh well sometimes like expertise do you even know what you're saying though i do wonder that sometimes right um our guest has arrived tanner
Starting point is 00:38:02 are we ready okay so are you did you boot out all these? Everyone's booted. I got them out of there. Well, that was quick. I didn't even know what was going on. Call that a sleight of hand. Yeah. Ah, there he is. Hey, there we go.
Starting point is 00:38:16 How's it going? It's going good. How about yourself? Pretty good. If you're ready, we'll just fire right into it so that way we don't say anything super important that people get to miss out on. We don't want to waste all the good stuff when we're not recording. I'm ready when you guys are. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:31 All right. All right, Big Evan, we are excited to have you on the Mathsonomics podcast. First things first, you just came out off of an enormous win at Giants Live. How does it feel? It feels pretty good. Enormous win at a giants live. How does it feel? It feels pretty good. Um, I'm the type of person where if the competition is on Saturday, I'll give myself the weekend to feel it, to experience it,
Starting point is 00:38:50 to kind of like relish in the moment and enjoy everything that happened and all of that. But as soon as I got home on Monday, I'm, I'm all about just getting right back to work and just getting ready for the next one. So are like today, were you right back to work? I mean, were you training today and back at it? Oh yeah. Right back to work. Get ready for the Shaw. Yeah. Cause it's not that long of a turnaround time until the Shaw classic. Is it? Nope. Five weeks. So with a quick turnaround like that, I mean, are you, are you feeling
Starting point is 00:39:20 pretty good or is there some things you need to take a little easy for a week or two here? Um, after a competition like a Royal Albert hall, where it was kind of hard on the body Are you feeling pretty good or is there some things you need to take a little easy for a week or two here? After a competition like Royal Albert Hall where it was kind of hard on the body and it was a tough cop because of the level of competitors, I gave myself maybe like three or four days of bodybuilding, just doing a little bit of cardio, blood flow work, obviously stepping my recovery up to make sure that my body is feeling good and ready to go. But once I did all of that, I'm pretty much just back into event training and ready to go. Yeah, well, congratulations on the win. That is a huge win. I mean, it's a big event, of course, but also given the competition that was there,
Starting point is 00:39:57 it's pretty meaningful. You know, you beat the other best in the world at this point in time. So that's pretty cool. Like, I mean, that has to be awesome. And how do you think, as long as we're talking about the two events, how do you think the Giants Live, the big stadium competition, then in five weeks as just a really close comparison, you got the Shaw. What's the better event?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like, could you – how do you compare the two? what's the what's the better event like could you could you how do you compare the two it's hard to beat the one it's really it's really hard to compare the two because it's awesome competing at the uh the the the bud light budweiser arena wherever it is in denver mainly because it's in it's on u.s soil and it's one of the biggest shows of the year um i i like having that that ability to compete in the u.s for one of what's considered one of the bigger titles um but also to compare it to giants live is difficult because giants live is amazing the the the crowd and atmosphere is nuts i mean there's a there's a serious there's an entire strength culture over in europe and it's just wild that like i can i can walk down the
Starting point is 00:41:12 street and people will recognize me from giants live from world's strongest man because everybody pays attention to a strong man powerlifting it's got such a strong culture over there and then obviously at the strongman classic it's in royal albert hall the history in that building is second to none it's truly amazing so they both have their strengths and they both have um uh a really really good case for being a better show but i i genuinely i don't know if i can pick we'll pick a better one yeah that's fair okay we we've been known a lot of people when they describe us they'll say we're kind of like silly goose you know we're maybe not we're not serious goose all that often we have a lot of silly goose topics we like to be goofy have fun and you know sometimes uh when you're competing people might think you're pretty serious goose
Starting point is 00:42:02 but would you say you you also, but would you say you do also have a silly goose side to you as well? I'm literally standing in front of a toy collection. What toy collection? I collect Jurassic Park stuff. Ah, perfect. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It looks like you've got a lot back there. Oh, this is... Has this been in the works a long time? Like, how long have you been at this? Oh, yeah. I've been doing this for years now. Okay. There's more over there.
Starting point is 00:42:35 What's your best piece? Oh, that one's hard. This is the original board game from 1992, still in its original wrap. Damn. I don't know man like i've got i've got the china that they used in the first movie still in its original box that's pretty cool that's awesome stuff like that i've got comic books and magazines i've got all the m's collector's cups from 1992. I got a little bit of everything.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I like to collect stuff from the original movie because it's my favorite. Do you ever, on a Friday when you're feeling like you're in a special mood, do you ever break out one of the original cups and drink out of it? No, hell no. It's strictly on the shelf. Collector's item only, brother. All right. I feel like this is my next question on the shelf. Collector's item only, brother. Alright, I feel like this is actually the next question on the list. I feel like maybe I already know the answer, but still going to ask it
Starting point is 00:43:30 just in case. Best dinosaur movie? Land Before Time. What about Land Before Time? How does Land Before Time compare to it? Land Before Time, I would say is probably the best children's dinosaur movie. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. But Jurassic Park is still your overall number one then. It's's dinosaur movie. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But Jurassic Park is still your overall number one then? It's my favorite movie, period. Obviously. Yeah. So how old are you? I am 30. Okay, so you were, you would have been born about the time
Starting point is 00:44:02 that that movie came out then, right? I was one year old when that movie came out then, right? Yeah. Yeah. One year old when that movie came out. Okay. So how old were you when you saw it for the first time? Three. Oh,
Starting point is 00:44:11 you did actually. Okay. That's a pretty intense movie for a three year old. Oh, I saw dinosaurs and I was infatuated. The, uh, scene that,
Starting point is 00:44:20 uh, you know, cause I was just like five years older than that. So I was probably, you know, six, seven years old when I saw it for the first time. The scene that literally scared the shit out of me as a kid was the stainless steel kitchen.
Starting point is 00:44:33 When they're hiding in there. The velociraptors. Oh, man. That was some scary stuff. That would still give me... That's very suspenseful there. I love that scene. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Spielberg did an amazing job just creating suspense and tight, close knit quarters like that. And I feel like that's kind of what made the Raptors in the original movie, like a little bit like scarier than the T-Rex because the T-Rex was bigger. And like, it was obviously terrifying, but like the Raptors, like they can follow you into like a building, you know what I mean? Yeah. They the room with the, yeah, they're like silent in the room with you. You almost don't know if they're right behind this exact, this wall that you're both touching right now. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So how do you, how do you like all, like I don't know how many Jurassic Park follow-ups there's been since then. You know how many additional movies do you like all the new ones? Okay. There's three Jurassic Parks parks and three jurassic worlds um i like the second jurassic park uh the third jurassic park should never have been made okay the first jurassic world i liked it but not nearly as much as the jurassic park movies and then the second and third Jurassic World were very... I just can't quite capture that magic again.
Starting point is 00:45:52 What's the dude's name, the actor that was in Parks and Rec that's in Jurassic Park? Is he in all of those newer ones? Yes, he's in all of those newer ones. What's the origins of T-rex as your nickname um well obviously i've been a fan of jurassic park forever and actually the it's my earliest like interest in any kind of a career field was to be a paleontologist and i wanted to pursue that like go out on digs go to college for all get my get my doctorate in it, all of that good stuff. And T-Rex obviously has always been my favorite dinosaur.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And you know how when, like, I don't know if you guys have tattoos or not, but you know how, like, you'll think to yourself, well, this would be really cool right here. And then maybe a month later, you're like, no, that's a stupid idea. I'll think of something else. I've gone through so many tattoo ideas, but when I was about 15, I came up with this. It's T-Rex claws going up my index finger. I have them on both hands. I came up with that idea when I was 15 and I never changed it. It was always the same idea. I thought it would be a super cool tattoo. And about two months before my first strongman competition
Starting point is 00:47:06 in 2018, I pulled the trigger on it. I got it done. And I went into my first amateur competition with my T-Rex claws and everybody started calling me T-Rex. So I just kind of ran with it. And here we are. That's, that's pretty good. A lot of people, you know, with their tattoos, they can get bad or dumb nicknames that they didn't want. Like in your in your instance, it worked out perfectly in your favor here. Absolutely. It couldn't have worked out better. Yeah, it is a really sick nickname, too. It's a good one. I dig it. I mean, there's there's there's not only is there like a little bit of a story behind it, but there's also like if you look at it from a business perspective, it's really good marketing. I mean, at some point in most, I would say an overwhelming majority of people's lives, at some point they like dinosaurs. So everybody can relate to the nickname in a certain way.
Starting point is 00:47:56 You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I got a three-year-old boy and he is on the dinosaur train right now. He is all about that life. The dinosaur train, that's actually a show. Is it really? Yeah, dinosaur train right now. He is all about that life. So yeah, I just, we're trying, that's actually a show. Yeah. I was, I was a dinosaur kid when I was little and I'd kind of forgot about that
Starting point is 00:48:11 world and man, I'm getting like sucked right back into it. It's all, it's all coming back to me. So you, you talked about the marketing, you know, that it's good for you.
Starting point is 00:48:19 It's good for your career. It's good for strong man. You did pro wrestling. Do you pull that? that i mean is that something that you uh getting into strongman that you maybe are more aware of and conscious of than some other people because of that background i would absolutely say yes i mean all you have to do really is re-watch the giants live shows because if you watch the Giants live shows, we're all given a 30 second entrance where we pretty much just they introduce us. And it's just the tiny things that you learn
Starting point is 00:48:52 in pro wrestling have a really good carryover to straw man if you know what you're doing. And there's a little bit of psychology behind it. If you really think about it, there's a reason why pro wrestlers in WWE when they they have a specific entrance they have choreography music all of that good stuff it's essentially imprinting a first impression onto the crowd like the first time that they ever see you is going to be your walkout so make an impression like a lot of the guys they kind of like their music hits the mc introduces them they walk out they'll do their waving they'll wave flag. And then they just get up on stage. And it's not really that memorable.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I come out to the game by Motorhead. And I do the water spit and everything. And every time that I do the water spit, if you rewatch the replays on the shows, every time I do the water spit, the crowd just, they pop. They love it. So, obviously, I'm going to keep doing it. And now for the rest of the show, that image of me doing that stands out to you. And now me as an athlete is stuck in your head. So, yeah, I would, I would think I agree completely. And I think it almost, it puts you in this spot where, um, maybe some people are just, just sort of
Starting point is 00:50:03 indifferent to some of the athletes. You know, they don't love them and they don't hate them. Or they're just going, it was an event in town and they're just going to see it. Like they don't know much. And with you, it seems like more, like we have the Mastonomics Discord group where we have got a bunch of people and Strongman will come up, gets to be talking in it. I made the comment.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You're one of them. Your name is one of the most polarizing strong man. If your name comes up, people have an opinion, you know, people, people have, I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:32 a lot of it's mostly favorable, but I'm just like, people have an opinion. And I think, whereas a lot of people that are also in the top level, there's less than of opinion. And I think that's part of the reason why is just like they they uh they remember something they remember maybe more than what they remember about some of the other guys yep whether it's in favor of me or not you always remember something from watching
Starting point is 00:50:55 me compete and um that's another thing that i learned in pro wrestling any reaction is better than no reaction and i'll give you a funny story about this, actually. So in 2021, I was competing in Glasgow, Scotland, and I was competing with the Stoltman brothers. And obviously, they're from Scotland. So they got huge reception from the crowd and all of that. And I started picking up through the events of the show that they weren't really cheering for anybody outside of the stoltmans like they weren't booing or anything they were just kind of indifferent so the pro wrestler in me came out a little bit i was like all right if you're not going to cheer me i'm going to make you boo me yeah i'll be the heel i don't i'm more than happy to do that so it's me
Starting point is 00:51:40 and tom stoltman doing a yoke race i end up beating tom and as uh we're both still we did the the car yoke and as we're as we're across the finish line i leaned over outside of the hood i got his attention and in front of the entire crowd i did the john cena you can't see me thing yeah and i can't even describe to you the wave of booze that I got from, from eight and a half thousand people. Oh God. It was one of the highlights of my career. I made everybody in that stadium boo me. It was amazing. I loved it. I loved it. That's good. That's good. That's interesting. That's an interesting take on it so talking about the wrestling in your background do you have do you personally were you a fan of it do you have a
Starting point is 00:52:29 favorite wrestler of all time that you enjoyed watching and that you pulled from maybe as far as my my personality as far as like bringing what I can to straw man the energy that i bring is probably similar to something like the rock or like maybe like brock lesnar in his earlier years stuff like that because uh i would and like i would definitely i would definitely say bill goldberg too like not too long ago one of my fans sent me a clip of goldberg back in like the late nineties when he started coming up and he's pacing back and forth. And then he just like, he, he, he puts his hand on a locker and head butts it like really, really hard. And they were like, Oh, so this is where you get that from. That makes sense now. And I was like, yeah, I guess, I guess you could say that. So yeah, when I compete, I'm super, super intense and aggressive. And I guess you could say,
Starting point is 00:53:24 I got a little bit of that from Goldberg. I like those comparisons, Goldberg and Brock. Those are good. And Brock's just from down the road from us. Oh, is he? Yeah, he's a South Dakota native, was a stud wrestler in high school, obviously, and college too. You wrestled in high school then too
Starting point is 00:53:46 didn't you i did yeah okay yeah my senior year of high school i was nationally ranked i did brazilian jiu-jitsu i had full scholarships to penn state rutgers university all of those yeah someone said we have to ask you about uh uh your jared from subway photo does that mean anything to you jared from subway photo yeah oh they're probably uh a little bit of context after after i got i got out of wrestling because i ended up getting hurt. And when I got hurt, I ended up putting on a bunch of weight and I ballooned up to about three 85 of really, really bad weight. Okay. So I got super, super heavy and bad weight. I took a picture of myself
Starting point is 00:54:37 shirtless. And once I was given the green light to go back to the gym and start exercising, I pursued bodybuilding and I ended up losing 140 pounds and got on stage. So that's probably the picture that they're referring to where I'm like super fat and I look like a busted up can of biscuits. And then fast forward like a year, a year. And, uh, I've got like shredded abs and like I've got definition everywhere. So that's probably what they're talking about. Okay. Yeah. That was a big Bobby Thompson that mentioned that,
Starting point is 00:55:09 but we had, of course it was Bobby. I was slightly worried that it was maybe like a picture of you with Jared from subway. And you know, like maybe you had that picture would have gotten deleted. Maybe, maybe you as a young kid posing with Jared from Subway or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:28 As a young kid. That's what I was worried about. Here's my buddy, Jared. Yeah, my buddy, Jared. my buddy Jared. So when you were, when you, like when you decided, all right, I'm going to start doing a bodybuilding approach, I'm going to start losing weight. Like, was that easy for you? Like, were you able to do that or was it hard? Oh God, no, it was hell. I was dieting for about eight months before I got on stage. And, uh, I'm talking like every single day, two hours of cardio, two hours of weight training. I would do like maybe 30 to 40 minutes of posing practice every day.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So you were really all in on this when you were doing it? Oh, no. Yeah. That's the one thing about my personality that's consistent throughout my life is that when I decide that I want to pursue something something i'm giving that everything that i have that has my sole attention now yeah that's cool i've got a couple of uh strongman related questions for you then um shoot first one if you could go and compete against anyone that you didn't get the opportunity to compete against, because they're in a prior era to you, anyone on your list that you would have liked to have gone toe-to-toe with, head-to-head with?
Starting point is 00:56:56 I've got three. I would have loved to have competed against Hafthor, The Mountain, Eddie Hall, and Marius puchnoski the dominator yeah yeah that'd be three good ones it looks like there was a possibility that thor was going to happen maybe you would have got that chance but now i don't know what the future of that holds yeah ever since he tore his pack he's been kind of like vague on what his like goal, future plans and goals are. So I don't know. Maybe he'll come back. Maybe he won't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 It's unfortunate because I think that would have been, you know, regardless of, I don't know where he would fit in with, uh, the top top competitors now, but it would have been good for the sport no matter what, if he's back in there, like it would have been good for everyone. Honestly, I think. Yeah. It would have been a lot, brought a lot more of attention to the sport and elevated it in the mainstream which is always good yep yeah what if uh you know that this is a kind
Starting point is 00:57:53 of an old older strongman events that they don't really do anymore but the man-to-man strongman events where like that's the old videos of like kaz and they're doing suit you know they're actually like sumo wrestling. Oh, yeah. Or like you'll see the ones, I don't know, it's like early 90s World's Strongest Man where they're on the beach somewhere and they essentially have this giant BOSU ball and they're like pushing each other through the ring with it. And that stuff. Would you ever like it if they did events like that where it's straight up man to man?
Starting point is 00:58:23 Or do you think that's dangerous? I've been petitioning for them to bring back wrestling right since i got to the world's strongest man level because i'll murder the shit out of anybody they put in front of me yeah that's what i wondered how you think you would fare on like i feel like you with your background those would be favorable events for you oh hell yeah but i understand why they don't do it anymore it's obviously to prevent injury that right you got two 400 pound guys butting heads i mean the calf and hamstring tears would be so abundant that's yeah when it's two 275 pound guys it was probably easier to get away with that
Starting point is 00:59:00 than like in today's strongman that's sort of a recipe for disaster but from a fan's perspective i'd love to watch it yeah it'd be fun while i would love to do it okay that's cool what about uh in today's strongman right now could you pick uh could you pick who you think the top five strongmen are right now today that's that's really hard because I want to say in the past two years the strongman competitive field has gotten so thick that yeah I mean honestly like like if you look at Royal Albert Hall for example like five six seven of those guys could have easily all been on the podium they could have i would say this is going to get me in trouble i know it is but i would say probably my top five in no particular order would probably be mitch ho, Tom Stoltman, me, Trey Mitchell, and Alexey Novikov.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I don't think you say it's going to get you in trouble. That's why I think it's such a hard question, because it'd be hard for anyone to make a solid argument against any of the five you made there. Someone could make an argument in favor of someone else that you didn't name there, but then you have to say, well, who do you take out? But that's why it's a hard question. And I think right now, maybe even like 10 years ago,
Starting point is 01:00:33 it would have been an easier question because you just say, well, it's Shaw it's Z it's, you know, Thor. And you know, like I, I asked that because I agree with what you're saying, that there's almost like 10 people at any given time that could win almost any competition. Yep. Yeah. And we just like to put you on the spot there.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay. How about this power slap thing? What were you guys doing there? Wasn't it you and Trey? Yeah. Dana white invited us to come out because they, they, How about this power slap thing? What were you guys doing there? Wasn't it you and Trey that were doing that? Yeah, me and Trey. Dana White invited us to come out because the UFC and Dana White have put a lot of money into the power slap thing. So they were having their first super heavyweight bout.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And they needed, obviously, bigger guys to catch the bigger guys just in case they fell. And that's when they came in to me and trey they thought we would do a good job and we were told that we did so yeah that's pretty much how that came about they were like hey you want to spend like a weekend in vegas we'll give you a thousand bucks and all you got to do is catch some heavy guy if they if he falls over all right hell yeah did you end up having a decision for me too because i'm i've all i've been a ufc fan forever like outside of strong man and like strength sports mma is the only sport that i watch like at all so that was an easy yes for me okay yeah so did you have to catch anyone then
Starting point is 01:01:58 yeah yeah yeah we had to catch uh what was his name? Slap for cash or something. Dude was like 380 pounds. Yeah, he got cracked, and we had to make sure that his head didn't hit the canvas. Could someone pay you enough to get in on that, or would you want to? Yeah. No, not for me. Do you know what those guys, like that night, do you have any idea what those guys were getting paid for that couldn't tell you not enough that's all yeah not enough not enough to get your hands behind your back and get slapped in the face like as hard as they could
Starting point is 01:02:36 no i don't think i would have the balls to just stand there like i would i would win i would have to back away at the last second like that just wouldn't have it. Just wincing up so hard. I will say this. Internet videos do not do it justice. I will say that because for the prelims, when the smaller guys were going and the stuff that wasn't on the live feed, when those guys were going, me and Trey were in the crowd and we were just watching. And some of those slaps sounded like gunshots it was they're they're laying into each other yeah yeah i that that takes some serious balls that would not be for me
Starting point is 01:03:20 uh how do you like the shaw events for you i like the shaw events for me um they're they're a really really good combination of static but also of like cardio and testing your speed and all of that and your endurance uh the wheelbarrow into the arm over arm that's a great event for me i won that in 2021 um i'm one of the few strong men that keeps bench press consistent in his training throughout the year so i feel like the standing bench will be a good event for me uh what else i've been working on my deadlift my deadlift is feeling really strong so the hummer tire but looking to get to at least 10 50 1100 which would be really good points i'm also looking forward to the car leg press uh a lot of the guys felt a little like a lot of the opinions from the guys were
Starting point is 01:04:09 a little mixed about that event from last year, but I liked it. I thought it was really cool. And I've been my legs, leg press strength has just been getting a lot stronger. So I think that'll be a good one for me too. That's cool. I'm curious to see how the bench press one plays out just because that is, you know, as much as anything, that's just outside of the norm for strongman. Yeah, we haven't seen anything like that. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 What do you think? What's overall people's take on it? Are people excited for it? Or like some people are like, oh, what the frick? I don'm to get based on what i've heard from the other guys pretty much the majority of the opinion is like they're waiting to see to make the final decision on how they feel about it after they see like the implement how it's set up how the event's going to go because there's a lot of stuff that's kind of like in up in the air and questionable right now so a lot of guys are just kind of like up in the air and questionable right now. So a lot of guys are just kind of holding off to make a final opinion until they see it. That's fair. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Big Evan, we've got this game we play with every guest on the podcast. It's called Overrated, Underrated. It's pretty simple. We've got a little special hand-picked topics just for you. You've got to decide if each one is overratedicked topics just, just for you. You got to decide if each one is overrated or underrated, but we got to remember is you can't ride the line. You have to, you have to definitively say if each one's over or under, you can probably do that though. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm totally fine with that. Um, rapid fire fast as possible. Well, you have your druthers. You can, you can, no, it's, it's not speed. You can, you can elaborate
Starting point is 01:05:44 it on much as much or as little as you want to. So if you got to elaborate enough, we'll probably make you elaborate more. So yeah, yes. We'll probably ask you follow-up questions to make it make, to get more out of you. So yeah, it's not rapid fire. Okay. Overrated or underrated Vince McMahon. Overrated.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And is he on the way out? what's happening now like is he he's he's on the way out but god he's he is putting up a fight because it's it's abundant based it's very apparent that he doesn't want to leave just based on the fact that he still has majority creative control and he's not really relinquishing any power, creative, creative ability to, to triple H or any of them. So, right.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah. Okay. So that's the WWE, obviously what, when you were wrestling, what was the, I don't, I don't know my wrestling federations all that well,
Starting point is 01:06:40 but what, what was the organization that you were wrestling? I wrestled for WWE. Okay. It was WWE. So did you ever have any interaction with him over that point in time? Where do people go? Isn't it somewhere in the Northeast? Florida.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Where is it? Florida. Okay, Florida. When I was in wrestling, it was in Tampa, and then towards the end of my career when I got out of it because I got hurt, they moved it to Orlando. Okay. Okay. So did you ever have any interaction with him over that time?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Ever see him around or anything? Not with Vince, but I've met Hunter a couple of times. Stephanie once. I've met damn near everybody. Yeah. That's cool. So Vince overrated everybody. Yeah. That's cool. So Vince overrated though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Okay. Overrated or underrated Titanic, the movie? Overrated. And specifically, I think Rose as a villain. Yeah. Rose is quite literally the biggest movie movie villain of all time absolutely i gotta go back and watch titanic because i do not remember this movie hardly at all so i can't it's a horrific fucking movie i don't really want to go back and watch it but
Starting point is 01:07:57 i re-watched it like i watched it like a month ago after this submarine thing that i think was popping up on netflix and stuff so i watched it for the first time in probably like 20 years. Yeah. It's a nightmare, isn't it? Yeah. Regarded as one of the most romantic movies of all time. And if you watch that as an adult man,
Starting point is 01:08:17 that shit's a fucking horror movie. Are you kidding me? First of all, first of all, she has an affair with this random poor dude on a boat okay so she pushes his ass off the boat and lets him sink to his death and then spends the next 70 years of her life raising kids and married to another man just so she can reminisce about about this this one flame that she had 70 fucking years ago and then and then after finding out like the the the guy who's looking for this this jewel this gem whatever it is after learning about that
Starting point is 01:08:53 she tells this long ass played out story throws the gem that she had the entire time the priceless ocean and then dies on this dude's boat seriously villain that's villain energy oh and then when she dies she's reunited with jack not her husband that she raised kids with that's the part that got me when i watched the movie that i i definitely never caught the time before that i'm that's when she dies it kind of like shows her like you know whatever going to heaven and it's like she's going up the the grand staircase of the titanic and jacks they're waiting for and i'm like i turned to my wife and i'm like what about her husband and like all the people for that was my exact thing i'm like she was married and had kids and has grandkids what are what about those people why is she with this
Starting point is 01:09:39 guy rose biggest movie villain ever wow up there with hans gruber and darth vader but uh isn't the don't they say like sure the the door or panel whatever that was it was big enough for both of them but it couldn't have supported the weight of both of them it would have sun that door was legitimately like like 10 feet tall by six feet wide they could they could have had a studio apartment in new york with that amount of room and like teenage leonardo dicaprio looks like he weighs about 105 pounds even so yeah exactly there was enough room on that on that door for both of them. Yeah. So, not a big Rose fan. Okay. Nah, fuck her. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:30 So, are you from Pennsylvania area originally? Like Pennsylvania Dutch country kind of in there? Yep. Like I said, Pennsylvania. Born and raised. Okay. So, we'll see if you know this or not because Tommy and I don't really know much about this, but you might. Over, overrated or underrated shoe fly pie.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I think it's underrated personally. I like shoe fly pie and I don't think it gets enough credit. So what, what is it? We don't, that doesn't exist or we're at at all. We have no idea what it is. Oh, don't worry about it. It's a secret. I will say this though. i will say this though i will say this if you're ever gonna try shoefly pie make
Starting point is 01:11:09 sure that it was made by the amish because they make the best everything they'll make the warmest blankets you ever use they'll make the sweetest peanut brittle that you'll ever have they make the best shoefly pie they make good barns i think too they're good at raising barns so yeah if you're into barns yeah they're good at building too so is shoofly pie sweet is it like uh uh or is it like have like meat and potatoes and stuff like i don't even know what shoofly pie is honestly it depends on who you get it from because you can get it either way you can either get it as an accessory to a dinner or the main course of the dinner. Okay. So if someone tells you you're going to have some shoe fly pie, you don't even a hundred percent know what to expect then. Pretty much. Yeah. Okay. That's why I said it's a secret.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Okay. All right. Last topic, overrated or underrated. So it's kind of going to get levels of specific to this. First, I'd say sumo deadlifting, but then I'd say female, IPF, 47-kilogram lifter, sumo deadlifting, that sort of thing. Overrated. It's cheating, and everybody needs to accept that. It's cheating, and everybody needs to accept that. That's for sure your final answer on that one? I will die on this hill.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Okay. Well, we're not going to argue with you. She's very confident in that answer. I don't think we have to pry too much. That answer was for somebody. that answer was for somebody yeah yeah we did our we did our homework from several angles to make sure to get the right questions for you here so okay uh well awesome i think uh we're adding up the scores now and it looks like you passed overrated underrated oh there was a there was a possibility i could have lost. Yeah, it's kind of a pass or fail course, and you passed. I'm not surprised. I'm good at everything.
Starting point is 01:13:12 So who's going to win the Shaw? Me. Who's going to win World's Strongest Man 2024? I thought those might be your answers, but good to get it on record still. Are you doing the Rogue Invitational in October? I thought those might be your answers, but good to get it on record still. Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing the Rogue Invitational in October? I haven't gotten the invitation to it yet. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:13:31 I've been very... What more do you need to do? Honestly, I'm not really sure. The ball is kind of in their court. I'm not sure what the invitation process for Rogue is. There's no way to really qualify for it. I'm hoping that a combination of my performance
Starting point is 01:13:47 at World's Strongest Man this year mixed with the fact that I got invited last year, but I was unable to compete because I tore my bicep and had surgery to repair it. I'm hoping that my invite will carry over and I'll get to compete at Rogue this year. I'm really, really hoping. I got my fingers crossed for that one.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yeah. Well, and I would think winning this last Giants... I mean, I know it's Giants Live isn't a feeder for the Rogue Invitational or anything like that, but it's all relevant, right? It's all part of the resume, you'd think. Right. They want the people in there. Right, right. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Well, we're excited. We're excited to watch it. I always like cheering the Americans on. I make a big point of, of, of that on here. I thought it was really cool. Let's see. It was you, Bobby, Kevin, Brian, who am I forgetting? You guys were all training together prior to worlds.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Trey. Oh, of course. Trey. Yeah. So that was cool. I really enjoyed how, how was that experience? Was that fun? That was awesome. That really was. Um, I'm, I'm a very patriotic person. I got a, I got a big ass flag, uh, on the wall in my room. Um, and it's really cool to be able to
Starting point is 01:14:58 go out to Colorado where Brian being as established as he is as like a living legend in the sport, inviting all of the guys who are, who you could say are like the next like up and coming torch carrying guys for the American strong man circuit. It's just really awesome to go out there and spend time with Brian, pick his brain, ask him questions, learn from him,
Starting point is 01:15:18 hearing about his experiences and just everything in general. Honestly, I loved being out there i really did what does that guy really know about strongman though i don't know bald nerd i don't know like what he he's got to prove something before i would want to listen to him you know he's got to accomplish something before i give him give him some time then we see. As I get ready for the show class. That was cool, though. I really appreciated that.
Starting point is 01:15:50 That was fun to see, fun to watch. That's cool. I hope some stuff like that continues. Oh, yeah, I hope so, too. Awesome. Well, we really appreciate you coming on, taking some time. And I would say we had a silly goose time, didn't we? I had a good time.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That was good. I think people really enjoy this. People, like, especially listen to you after you've been kicking ass here as of late. So it's fun. We'll be cheering for you. Cheering for you. And, Tasha, is that August? Yeah, it's August 19th and 20th.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Yeah, okay, sweet. Anything else we didn't talk to you about that you're like, oh, what the hell? I really wanted to talk about this. No, I was pretty much just giving you guys the reins and I was just along for the ride. Okay, sweet. Well, like I said, we really appreciate it. This was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:16:39 We'll make sure that everyone hears your opinion on the sumo deadlifting. Please do. I'm about to put it in my bio out in spite of love. Awesome. All right. Thanks, Evan.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Thanks a lot, Evan. Thank you very much for having me. All right. Cool. Oh, oh, oh. Cool beans. Cool beans. Beans.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Cool beans. There it is. Did you give him a double dose of Shoofly Pie Cool Beans? It was a Shoofly Pie, and then when you opened it, it was nothing but cool beans. It was part of the surprise. So that's what is inside Shoofly Pie is cool beans. Just cool beans. A lot of cool beans.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Amish cool beans. Yeah. Well, we definitely had a silly goose time there, didn't we? We did. We didn't even really have any serious goose time goose time there, didn't we? We did. We didn't even really have any serious goose time in the whole thing, did we? No, that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that.
Starting point is 01:17:32 That was a lot of fun. He has an, it's heart is kind of dark lit in there, so I couldn't see everything, but it looked like he really had an impressive, for anyone that just listens to audio only and doesn't check us out on YouTube, first of all, check it out on YouTube if you haven't before. He had a Florida ceiling bookcase, looked like multiple of them, just filled with toys and collectibles from Jurassic Park. He wasn't lying. There was a lot there.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah, so he really lives the T-Rex life. It's not just a clever strongman nickname, is it? No, he ain't messing around. Oh, well, that's good stuff. I'll be interested to see how the Shaw plays out. I wish we could have been in there at it this year. I know. But hopefully 2024. There's always next year. There is always next year. And then we're also, who knows what 2023
Starting point is 01:18:22 brings. We're just this week, we're having some meetings on talking about some other possible destinations that we make where we're able to get before 2023 is over. Some of our next major events or things that we got possibly planned. You know, like we said earlier, we're wildly successful YouTubers now. So we don't have to have a booth everywhere we go.
Starting point is 01:18:42 We can be YouTubers. We can just go youtube now literally hundreds of people are watching those videos they demand us that's not a smashing success and a reason to fly across country and get more content i don't know what is they demand us to travel now they need us traveling yeah never mind like an instagram account that might have a video i think it's a million views that doesn't that's not the focus it It's a YouTube with hundreds of views. Do you think Evan was like,
Starting point is 01:19:09 I wonder if they always wear the same shirt. You know, I sit lower though. He can maybe only see the top, but he wouldn't have to be that observant to be like, why are they having the same shirt on? Like, was I supposed to wear that shirt? I don't have that. They're an apparel company and they both wear the same shirt? like was i supposed to wear that shirt i don't have that they're an
Starting point is 01:19:26 apparel company and they both wear the same shirt do they not have that maybe they only sell one one shirt maybe they've only ever made one shirt is that the only one maybe we should do a shirt with a t-rex on it oh it could be something there's a there's a million dollar idea we could do a movie about it too where it's like we bring it'll be like a theme park kind of yeah it's like we use like the mosquito uh-huh that's stuck in the amber yeah i think there's something there and then like for some reason there's like this can of like uh shaving cream but there's a false bottom on it and we'll put something in there do you think uh dinosaurs could ever could ever be brought back like in any i mean with any amount of technology i would assume with
Starting point is 01:20:10 with a certain amount of technology yeah if you have a technology to bring things back it seems like you just solved that problem didn't you but like what is the i don't like it's it's uh i don't i'm not obviously not smart enough to know this stuff, but it seems like if you have enough DNA things in some way that you can start to piece things together there. Right. I'll give him a little DNA. If you know what I mean, it doesn't seem totally implausible to me.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It seems like a very big problem to solve, but it doesn't seem totally implausible. Well, they did it in Jurassic park. Yeah. And that was made in the nineties. You know, we're like light years ahead of that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Now we have freaking ai i should just ask chat gpt how to do it yeah jurassic park was is 30 years old and wasn't the i mean the book is right that was based on a book wasn't it oh why didn't you tell me there's a book i'll read the book i'm a book guy wasn't it based on a book i didn't know that was it based on uh what is uh let's see. What were we talking about? Land Before Time is the cartoon, right? Am I right?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yep. What's that show that in the 90s it was like a Saturday morning show? It wasn't a cartoon, though. It was a real show where they're driving a Jeep, an old Jeep, not a Jeep Wrangler, but like they're driving a Jeep Cherokee, like a red nineties Jeep Cherokee.
Starting point is 01:21:31 And it like falls in a crack. They're in like California. It falls. They like drive through a crack. There's an earthquake and they drive through. And then they're like stuck in this prehistoric time. This is live action or a cartoon? It's, it's not a cartoon.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Is live action just real actors? Is that what that means? Yeah, that's what I was getting at there. I got to know the name of it. Like 90s TV show, kids, dinosaurs, maybe Jeep Cherokee.
Starting point is 01:22:04 That's a lot of keywords there. I'm just getting the dinosaur. Oh, Land Jeep Cherokee. That's a lot of keywords there. I'm just getting the dinosaur. Oh, Land of the Lost. Land of the Lost. Do you know about Land of the Lost? Have you seen it? I got to see pictures. It might ring a bell.
Starting point is 01:22:15 You almost would need to watch the YouTube intro to Land of the Lost, I think is how you could really. Well, I got a new TV show. I'm getting the movie with Will Ferrell here. Oh, there's a remake of... Is it a Jeep? Yeah, this is a... Oh, it's a white Jeep.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Okay. Nickelodeon's Land of the Lost. Yeah, I remember seeing some of these pictures of the little creatures that they're with here. That rings a bell a little bit. Yeah, see, they're driving... With the dinosaur, bell a little bit yeah see they're driving with the dinosaur especially that's in there with them right that you got to watch the intro for this if you're listening they are driving a white jeep uh jeep cherokee and a crack in the road literally
Starting point is 01:22:58 opens up and they drive in it and then the crack closes back up. Just swallows him up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember these dinosaurs now. Yeah. Land of the Lost. I wish Evan was still on, and I could have asked him if he has ever seen Land of the Lost. That might be a hidden dinosaur. Dinosaurs are very, the effects are just,
Starting point is 01:23:19 I mean, it almost looks like if we just went to the store, bought some dinosaur toys, and started filming them on the oldest phone you could find. Yeah. That reminds me of speaking of horrible old Nickelodeon shows. Did you ever watch that one where it was like action figures on Nickelodeon, but it was just like random shitty old used action figures on nickelodeon but it was like it was just like random shitty old used
Starting point is 01:23:45 action figures and it was like them moving almost like gumby uh like it wasn't claymation because it was actual what is the name they had like a long crazy now is it actually now yeah wasn't that one supposed to be kind of funny though right yeah yeah oh i totally was funny i thought it was yeah i thought that was awesome i thought that that was. No, it was good. Yeah. Yeah. But I just mean shitty in the way that it's like. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Like not polished. Right. Like it's like the like it's literally just like old used action figures. What was that on actually? I thought that that was. It was its own show. Totally. At first, I don't think it wasn't it a part of all that there you go okay yeah that's what didn't it
Starting point is 01:24:27 eventually become its own show or yeah I think that's what it looks like here according to Wikipedia article yeah all that yeah interesting like there's one guy that was always like got like melted every episode or something like that yeah kablam all that interesting yeah i forgot about that yeah that's number 51 episodes that's surprising yeah melt man justice uh that's funny did you watch that though i i do remember seeing those i do remember seeing those on before uh land of the Lost had 43 episodes. I bet I saw them all at one point in time. I remember that show really well.
Starting point is 01:25:09 There is no way I would have sat and watched something that looked that shitty and then was also not cartoons when I was little. Like, that was not going to happen. Yeah. What about... What about what? What now? I'm just thinking of old Nickelodeon shows now did you ever watch
Starting point is 01:25:26 hey dude or i did a little bit to be old enough that they're actually like we almost we almost weren't old enough yeah and i remember that being on and like because um i remember like that being on and what was the one with the brothers too pete and pete yeah but like same thing like when i was a kid i just loved cartoons so much yeah like stuff like that i hated it i'm like no i want to watch cartoons not what about are you afraid of the dark i remember that too and i was always afraid of things like scary things scared me are you afraid of the dark i could kind of tolerate that but even then there was times where that was kind of scary for me too what about goosebumps when they made a show out of it did you ever watch the show i don't think i ever saw the show no that doesn't ring a bell for me at all why did you what was that on even
Starting point is 01:26:13 maybe i'm making it up that it was a show no i believe it totally um i don't know. Hayden Christensen's in the cast. 1995. Yeah, I do not remember that. Oh, I like this. Did you ever remember seeing Tales from the Crypt on TV ever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:40 What is that? With the Crypt Keeper. You know, he's like the skeleton with the long hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that even? I just saw that this popped up on with it but i remember seeing that occasionally on things that felt like that had a real cult status thing oh yeah it was on hbo okay so i would have never really seen it because it was on hbo but i was aware of that being a thing for sure did you ever uh did you ever read mad magazine no i didn't and i it was just because more i didn't have access to it because i totally would have read that if if i yeah i used to get uh
Starting point is 01:27:14 i used to get mad magazines um like an occasion like if we were if i was out with my mom i could like persuade her into getting me mad magazine and so not wholesome content in that magazine so not for little kids and what's the knockoff is mad magazine doesn't exist anymore does it i don't know what is cracked oh i don't know cracked but there was but there was mad magazine yeah yeah did you like watch that ever yeah wasn't that like stewart where he's yeah that's where yeah michael mcdonald yeah yeah let me do it that whole thing look what i can look what i can do yeah all that um yeah they had a couple tv was kind of funny oh will sasso was on yes will sasso yep uh bobby lee was on there like that was definitely a time where there wasn't a ton of dumb,
Starting point is 01:28:06 funny stuff on TV. Like it felt like in the nineties, a lot of just funny TV was all sitcoms, like stuff like that. And so then you had mad TV, SNL, and then even a little bit of in living color, right?
Starting point is 01:28:17 Is that what it's called? Yeah. And that's where you could get some like goofy, wacky stuff going on. So yeah, I always loved all that stuff. Do you know what the cover boy for mad magazine what his name is no alfred e newman is that a actual person or is
Starting point is 01:28:33 that just the purely a character i think he's just a made-up mascot essentially is what he like he's i guess we'd call it a mascot it It's kind of, what a weird thing is iconic though. Yeah. This magazine is this redheaded kid with big ears. Look up cracked magazine. You've never seen that before or heard of that. It's essentially was like mad magazine. I would guess I would like, I don't know if it's maybe like it was budget mad magazine or like their
Starting point is 01:29:01 competitor. Boy, I'm just looking at some covers and this is, I feel like I've never seen this in my life. Okay. But do you, are those a thing? Like, is Sports Illustrated a thing? They both have websites,
Starting point is 01:29:17 so I don't know if they print anything, but they have websites. I wonder who is, like, I just don't know what like what i liked about uh mad magazine there was always like a centerfold thing that you had to like try it was like a this wacky picture and then you like tri-folded it and it actually turned into a completely different picture that's kind of cool yeah it was always cool where I was like, oh yeah, that's funny. To follow up on our original point though,
Starting point is 01:29:51 yes Tanner, there was a Jurassic Park book that was released in 1990, three years before the movie in case you were curious. I wonder if it follows pretty closely to the movie script then.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I would imagine it's got to be pretty close. Yeah. There was no dinosaurs in the book. They did add that for the movie. It was about a group of ill-tempered sea bass with lasers on their heads.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Wait, was this Austin Powers' book? That's what it was. Getting them mixed up. Movies from the 90s are all the same to me, so I don't know. No different.
Starting point is 01:30:30 They're all the same to me. Dinosaur movies are all the same to me. I don't know. It's just a dinosaur. Yeah. I would say all the newer Jurassic Parks are all the same to me because I don't really know them.
Starting point is 01:30:40 They all just kind of seem the same. I've even seen, for sure, one of them, if not two of them, and I can't keep them straight. So, yeah, didn't like I know that there's obviously with Chris Pratt, there's much newer ones. But was there a straight up like Reese like Jurassic Park came out in 92, whatever year Evan said it was. Was there like in 94 or five? Was there a second Jurassic Park then?
Starting point is 01:31:01 Yeah, yeah, there was. There's an old. OK, yeah. Like Jurassic Park. Oh, the Lost World. OK, so the movie like Jurassic Park Lost World. So the movie was 93, Lost World was 97, Jurassic Park 3 was 2001. So was that 97 one, was it
Starting point is 01:31:14 bad then? I think that one's still, eh. The ratings aren't too high on that one. When I click the old button here, and Jurassic Park 3 ratings are not too high either jurassic world does have an uptick jurassic world fallen kingdom yeah about the same
Starting point is 01:31:34 you know what movie holds up what i think surprisingly pretty well i thought was talking about this uh with big rob at on vintage weightsights because I did a thing on his YouTube channel and he was quizzing me on Aberdeen stuff. So he was asking me about L. Frank Baum. And I have watched Wizard of Oz a couple times with my kids over the last couple years. And it's shocking how well that movie is made for a movie that was made in the 30s.
Starting point is 01:32:04 It's almost like a hundred years old yes yes all right i okay i 100 do want to watch that and i my boy just still isn't at the point where that could that would hold his attention but um we'll probably scare the shit out of him yes along those lines though for whatever reason old old disney movies have just got his attention right now and it started with dumbo and i don't know if i'd ever actually what about bambi so that's where it started with dumbo and then that was like a week or two ago this week it moved to bambi and bambi has got him locked in like he could if you would let him i think he'd just watch it nine times in a day like he would
Starting point is 01:32:41 just you could start it over and he'd just say or you could get to the end and he'd just watch it nine times in a day. Like he would just, you could start it over and he'd just say, or you could get to the end and he'd just say, yeah, if you'd let him, like you don't let him. He's kind of a sad story though. It is. I actually, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:50 This is one of those really, I haven't seen Bambi for a long time. Um, yeah. So I haven't, because it's with kids, you, it's like nearly impossible to like sit and actually just watch the whole
Starting point is 01:32:59 thing because you're waiting on them or putting out some fire constantly. So I've seen the beginning a hundred times now. I've really haven't got to just watch the last like 30 minutes uninterrupted but i basically get what's going on but this is one of those things is the mandela effect do you know i'm talking about oh yeah when you think something happened and it didn't yeah doesn't bambi's mom mom get shot by a hunter or something yes okay i don't think that should be a spoiler for anyone well no his mom so the mandela effect? Well, no, his mom... So the Mandela effect is you think something happens and you feel like you remember it and it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Yeah, right. But... And I always remember reading things about how like Disney Plus is editing stuff out of videos and trying to make them more correct and, you know, whether they're right or wrong doing that. That's a whole other conversation, but... Right.
Starting point is 01:33:43 So the way that that scene takes place is they're growing up they're having a good time they're in the meadow his mom tells him to run and they're running they're running they're running they're running you hear a gunshot you know you hear multiple gunshots then finally yeah Bambi gets back and he says mom we're back we made it we made it and his mom's not there and he goes out and he can't find her and then his dad says you know basically his dad's standing there talking to him. Yeah. And I'm like, no. I remember he sees his mom dead there.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Like, I'm like, I thought this was, like, so traumatizing because he saw his dead mom there. Right. More like Lion King. More like a Lion King scene. Kind of like that, yes. Yes, I thought it was more like that. I thought he came back to her dead body.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I'm like, oh, they totally edited this out. i'm like googling it like where is this scene or edited bambi is that a common mandela effect it's a common mandela effect and i guess maybe what happens is there is like a still that someone had drawn of like him at that and i don't know if that's just something that you we've all seen all seen on the internet at some point you go wow that's graphic for like little kids i can't believe they did i don't know if that's what's in my brain or what but i was absolutely shocked that after the scene happens he does not see his dead mother at all i i thought for sure disney had changed that up and they never did which which blew my mind i can't believe they haven't remade a bambi into a well more there was a bambi 2 then into like 2006 oh really but um which is a i
Starting point is 01:35:09 mean a sequel actually but then on those same lines though dumbo like there was a uh what's it tim burton in like tooth ardent edward scissorhands yeah like 2019 he directed i not it says live action dumbo but yeah it's like cg but like my boy wants, he wants nothing to do with that. Like does not, you'll click the start button on that. No, not this one. Not like he wants. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:29 But anyway, the thing with those cartoons, I was like, Dumbo is like, I think 1940 and Bambi's like 1941. Like those are like 80 years old. And it is kind of amazing that those can hold up as good as they can from like a entertainment standpoint for kids. You think kids would have evolved and been like, no, like there's all this crazy stuff out there now.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Like this is like 80 years old. Yeah, this is an 80-year-old cartoon. It moves at a very different pace. There's whole parts of it where there's minimal talking, but man, they had some formula figured out and it transcends the test of time there. It just works across all ages. One of those ones that got me
Starting point is 01:36:08 on that was the original 101 Dalmatians. Oh, that one too. We've watched that so many times. We watched that and I'm like, what year was this made? And I don't know what year I thought it was made, but I looked and I'm like 1961! I had no idea this was
Starting point is 01:36:24 like, I thought this was like from my i thought this was like made in the 80s i did that was my guess almost made in the 50s yeah that shocked me um the yeah that one surprised me a lot too i think the thing though like you can tell they must have remastered it a little bit because the animation on dumbo the quality is so good compared to like Bambi and even 101 Dalmatians. Like Dumbo is so, the colors are good. The lines are all really good. So they must've had like a different level of restoration on some of these compared to the others.
Starting point is 01:36:54 But yeah, classic Disney. Yeah, it's just, and then I started like reading about it because it's like, oh, Bambi's based on a book. So then you read like some Austrian book and then you're like, what was the origins like how the hell did they sell these damn things and it's probably all Nazis probably well yeah it probably was and then uh also the fact that like the world then well because then we I'm like I've never seen Fantasia I gotta turn this on and then I start trying to he didn't really like that as much but i can
Starting point is 01:37:25 see how that would be like a mind trip for people then whenever that came out in like 48 or whatever it was right like oh this is almost like an acid trip with colors and all this crazy stuff i could see how people's brains are like exploding at that point and now you just go watch an avengers movie and you're like man things have sure changed those are not bad though like they're like, man, things have sure changed. Those are not bad, though. Like, for how old it is, it's crazy. And that's my point on Wizard of Oz. Like, my girls love it. And, like, when you watch it, you're like,
Starting point is 01:37:54 not a bad movie for, like, something that was made that long ago. You know, I just, it's kind of crazy. Yeah, I do. You have me excited to watch Wizard of Oz again here someday. Yeah. That's one when, like, I'm always conning the kids to watch movies that I can also stop. But I'm like, no, like, let's watch Aladdin.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And I tried to get them to watch Aladdin just yesterday because I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, here. We'll watch Aladdin. I remember being a kid liking this a lot, and I probably haven't seen it since I was in about third grade. That one had no – it must be the animal thing. You know, it must be something to animals. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:38:34 But he, 20 minutes in, he was just, I don't want this one. Different one, different one, different one. And finally, I'm like, okay, you're giving it a shot, and this is just not clicking with you. I won't force you to watch that yeah well aladdin on disney has some pretty strong warnings ahead of time to yeah about uh yeah there's a few characters in that movie that i'm like ah yeah they would do that that way okay dumbo has that too on it dumbo's yeah okay there yeah you know what doesn't need a warning like that you know what you know what doesn't have 50 year old racial undertones juggernaut ai
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Starting point is 01:41:44 Not recently, no uh it's been a long time but i i'd liked it a lot when i was younger yeah i could i'm gonna watch that with uh with my son i think that uh i could i want to see how that holds up i bet the first one holds up pretty good still i think it does i already can tell that it does even though i haven't seen it for so long i feel like that's pretty interested in watching that right you know every time there's some old movie that i'm like you know what i'd really like to watch that i wonder what streaming service is on i'm like every single one of them not on yeah like every one of these old movies that i'm like that'd be fun to watch it could be some shitty old movie a blockbuster old movie whatever it is every time i mean we have like
Starting point is 01:42:23 17 streaming services, and it's always like, no, it's on none of them. You can pay like $9 to rent it on Amazon Prime if you want to. Yep, that's streaming for you. Have you ever had that happen, though, when you're like, are struck? You're like, oh, I'd really like to watch this. What's it on? I mean, we know I don't watch movies, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:40 True. There was several times that I've had a list of things I want to see, and I'm like, all right, here's two and a half hours. Let's do this. Oh, yep, not on this one, not on this one, not on this one. Yeah, okay, yeah, we won't do this, I guess. I'm sure as hell not paying money to watch this. I want to watch it for free and built into the money that I've already paid.
Starting point is 01:42:58 God, we also, the number of streaming services, it's just in a constant ebb and flow of how many we have, and right now we're back on a high of just way too many streaming services it's just in a constant like ebb and flow of how many we have and right now we're back on a high of just way too many streaming services because i had to get netflix i had i've actually never even had my own netflix account in my entire life had to get netflix to watch muscles and mayhem now we got that and now we got that is there like a free month though or something i mean there might have been been, but I wasn't going to mess around with that. I'm just like, no, I'll give you my thing to just get the show on with and do this. So now that you have it, are you using Netflix? I actually started.
Starting point is 01:43:34 We need to just do this as an episode, watch the Arnold thing, and then talk about it for an episode. I haven't mean to tell you that, but I was going through there. I'm like, oh oh this looks interesting this looks interesting i want i watched a little bit of the tour de france documentary i clicked on that i was gonna watch it i haven't it's interesting it's a little too french or a little too foreign the whole thing you're just reading everyone's subtitles and then they also have it dubbed so you're hearing some other guy try and explain, which for a lot of things works in a documentary.
Starting point is 01:44:06 It's kind of weird. I mean, at times it's not just a documentary of someone dubbing over like an interview. It's like, no, this is like live footage of them. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:44:14 Oh, you fucking idiot. Get on the bike. And like, there's so like the voice actors trying to like recreate this, which, and some of it, they don't do the best job of explaining the rules,
Starting point is 01:44:22 how the whole thing works. Cause I don't get all that, but I did learn a little bit and it is interesting. But after like three episodes of it, they don't do the best job of explaining the rules, how the whole thing works, because I don't get all that. But I did learn a little bit. And it is interesting. But after like three episodes of my, OK, I think I've probably had enough of this now. So you wouldn't strongly recommend that I need to watch that? No, it could be a little punchier. I don't think it was the best.
Starting point is 01:44:38 OK. Because they're doing that with every sport. Oh, they are. Because the F1 thing is what started it. It just blew it up and so yeah now they've done it they haven't they done it with tennis golf uh the quarterbacks one now yeah yeah um yeah i mean they're doing it with everything because like if one of those can hit like it just totally changes your sport and that's right i i mean i i wasn't into f1 i mean i kind of
Starting point is 01:45:02 always like cars but i wasn't into f1 someone said i was listening to a podcast like oh you but I wasn't in F1. Someone said, I was listening to a podcast. I was like, Oh, you got to watch it. If you think you have even a remote interest in car racing or anything. And I watched them like, yeah, I'm into this.
Starting point is 01:45:11 This is amazing. I loved it. And after that, I watched that and I'm a huge Formula One fan. I watch every single race. I don't miss it all just because of that documentary. Like it, it did the thing it was supposed to do to me.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I don't know. That racing is all the same to me. And I a hundred percent get it when people say that. I don't know that racing is all the same to me and i 100 get it when people say that i don't even like try i don't even hardly try to push it on anyone other than if i talk to you long enough i'll let someone know that i'm into it outside of that i don't even like i'm not even gonna attempt to explain this to someone that's one of those things that uh the average population doesn't have a base knowledge to even like grow up with it in any way right it's like a baseball or the nfl or like you know just like the average person you're gonna count uh come across in america knows enough they've been like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:45:57 how about the power lifting i don't go around explaining power lifting to anyone because right yeah if you don't go to the gym first of all you don't care about powerlifting at all and even if you do go to the gym you probably also don't care about powerlifting at all so it's like yeah i don't why would i bring this up with you unless we're like way into a conversation that's never going to lead with you know the conversation i've had to have with every single one of these local media outlets about our the powerlifting meet is what is every single one of them yeah like in in in, in the way that it's like, is it like the thing on TV where they lift the rocks and like that's strong,
Starting point is 01:46:29 man, it's comparable, you know, it's in the same, it's a strength, the same area, but that's not that that's strong, man.
Starting point is 01:46:35 And then it's like, well, is it the thing at the Olympics? You know, after I explained a little bit of like, Oh, it sounds more like the thing at the Olympics. Is it that like,
Starting point is 01:46:42 well, no, that's another separate sport. Uh, it's kind of closer to that in some ways although there's really more crossover yeah there's technically more crossover i think between powerlifting and strongman than there's power lifting and weightlifting but it visually looks much more like weightlifting and um and it's like well it's like that and then the one guy is like so are any of the people you know
Starting point is 01:47:03 that you said there's some top ones are they any of them that have done the olympics then, it's like that. And then the one guy is like, so are any of the people, you know, that you said there's some top ones. Are there any of them that have done the Olympics? And it's like, well, no, this sport doesn't actually, isn't in the Olympics. It's in the World Games kind of. But, you know, that's a whole separate federation. And like, so nobody really gets it. No. Well, it's confusing, though. It is.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Like, that just shows right there how hard, how much of a hurdle they have to get over, because people don't even comprehend what your sport is. Right. You know how many I try to. How many sports exist out there where you before you can even have the conversation, you have to even pin down what the sport is like. Most people, you can say the name of a sport and they're like, OK, I don't know the rules, but I know what the sport is here. People don't even understand what soccer looks like.
Starting point is 01:47:42 You know, I generally get that what's going on there. Polo know the one with around horses with the sticks oh yeah i have no idea how the game works but i know what you're talking about it's like powerlifting it's like the weights oh the one on the olympics no not that one okay the one on espn no not that one it's like yeah you don't even it's this other one that you've never seen so yes yes that is exactly right so i try not to focus on that and i more so i tell them about how uh how it's kind of cool how we're bringing in people all over from from all over north america and then all like half of it and then the other half is just like local people so it's kind of cool in that that way and i tried to sell them on that as the interesting part of it more so than
Starting point is 01:48:20 yeah trying to spend countless time explaining what powerlifting even is. Yeah. No one's there for that. They're just there for the entertainment. That's right. Just like the Massanomics podcast. Exactly. Just for the entertainment.
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Starting point is 01:49:34 You don't seem super confident in that answer this week either. Yeah, I do think it's a thread, though. Have you spent much time on threads yet? No, I posted a couple times. We've got a couple thousand followers or something on there did you know i should give you a fair warning you can never delete your threads account did you know that oh it's tied to your instagram account so if you delete threads you delete your instagram account which we never want to do i don't know if you know that but the
Starting point is 01:49:57 instagram account is important to our business so should i go delete threads right now is that why i'm on i heard delete threads and I just did it. So that's okay. Okay. You moved pretty fast on that one. Is this going to be a problem here? Yes. So please,
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