Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 384: Jimmy Kolb

Episode Date: August 14, 2023

Big Jimmy Kolb joins us for this one to discuss the heaviest lift in powerlifting history… his 1,401 pound bench press. We also talk about differences in powerlifting equipment, horror movies, and MREs! Build Fast Formula Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on your first order! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASS for a free pair of AWEsome wraps! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates! Swiss Link Use code MASS to save 15%! Texas Power Bars Get the Barbell that changed the game!

You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! website, everything. Massanomics! Welcome everyone for episode 384 of the Massanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from western northeast South Dakota and eastern southeast South Dakota. My name is Tanner, of course. And my name is Tommy. Of course. Of course.

Of course. Just like usual. If you're hoping for someone different for the 384th episode, you're going to be sad. Yeah. You're going to be sad. So you got to stick with us again. We do have an exciting,

exciting episode here. We've got a big Jimmy cold coming on later this episode to talk about his enormous 1,400-pound bench that he just did here. So it'll be fun to talk about that after it just happened here a week or two ago. And then we're going to support some of our supporting members before that. We're going to get into a fan-submitted can before that. And I don't know, Tommy, we got a big trip coming up that we finally got booked here too. So we got it we got a big trip coming up that we finally got booked here too though so we got to talk about a travel plans excursion flights cars planes

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We don't have our size, actually, of this. This is kind of like the original test run, so I haven't been able to wear these yet, but I am excited. I don't know if I'll ever take them off once they come in. Just sleep in them. Yeah. Should we jump into this can? Because I'm thirsty. Yeah.

So we each got something different. This was a submission from big Jen when, when she was here for them, power lifting meat a couple of weekends ago. It was now she dropped these off for us and she gave us each something different. She like handpicked the selection for each of us. Um,

and she, she let us know that, that like these were, these were special for each of us. So mine is Peacetree Brewing Co. Is yours a Peacetree Brewing Co.? Mine is also a Peacetree Brewing Co. Okay, Peace, right? Oh, sorry, Peacetree.

Oh man, that's what I get for not really reading correctly. And mine's a Blonde Fat, Belgian-style blonde ale. 8.5% alcohol by volume. Yeah. Damn. Is yours that much? No. And I have a hazy India pale ale, which if you listen to the show, you know I like those.

Mine's only a 6%. A blonde ale at 8%. I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah, 8.5%. And I had to look. It says it's rooted in Knoxville, Iowa. I had to look where Knoxville, Iowa is. Tanner, any guesses?

I have no idea. I'll say northeast. You're wrong. It is southeast of Des Moines, which Des Moines is kind of in the middle. Yeah. Okay. So this is from Big Jen. Big Get Strong Jen.

Here we go. It looks like Knoxville, Iowa has the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame. In case you're into sprint cars. I've never seen sprint cars only on the television before. Me too. This is... Is that a robust beverage? Yeah, this does pack

a wallop. I will say my get a little hazy IPA is exactly how I'd expect a good old hazy IPA to be. Pretty mellow, good. This is

the stiffest, uh, the stiffest blonde you've ever met. Yeah. And I've met some stiff ones in my day, if you know what I mean. Ooh, that's,

it tastes good. It is. It is a strong beer though. Surprisingly strong. It's good. What do you give yours on the JD only debating between three and a half and four it's almost too mellow it's so smooth it's almost like i i'm almost looking for more but i that could be a good thing though on the right day you're like no i want that to just be perfectly

smooth right um four is pretty exclusive territory we discussed this this last week. I'll go three and a half. Yeah. But I'd gladly drink this again and again. I'll give mine a three. It's not, it doesn't, the eight percent doesn't offend me, but it's not the, yeah,

yeah, it's a little bit stronger than what I look for in a, in a brewski. It's understandable. Tanner, today I went and ate at a restaurant and i'm very curious if you've ever been to this restaurant before and it was called not called red robin i don't think those exist around here that's right or anywhere for that matter yeah

um have you ever gone to who hot before yeah yeah because i you said no it really surprised me yeah it seems like who hot really had a strong run there like 10 to 15 years ago and i totally haven't heard anyone say that name i forgot that the existence of that i totally agree with you everything you're saying right there i i don't think you're wrong at all if that's a mongolian grill right and it's where you you tell them yeah i want the beef i want you kind of you kind of collect your own stir fry items and then give it to the guys and they cook it in front of you yeah um i'm not i have not been there like 15 years but now that i think about it wouldn't be bad because you just say yeah i want beef i want oh you don't even say i want to say i want your

own you you make your own service as much as you want yeah right and what do you throw on there like broccoli and is there rice and stuff uh so yeah first you pick like there's like different types of noodles and then yeah okay i'm remembering your rice too so you pick your noodles and then you pick your protein so you have you just give it to them and they cook it yeah so you get a bowl of just you do a bowl just full of your meat. So your meat, you have like chicken, beef, like meatballs, crab, scallops, mussels. I mean, there's like 10 choices of your protein. And then there's like the veggie line with, you know, everything, peppers, beans, onions, all that stuff, broccoli, anything you'd expect to see in Asian

foods. Yeah. And then, so that's the second line. And then the third line is all the sauces. And that's where you really bring the flavor, you know, to see in Asian foods. And then, so that's the second line. And then the third line is all the sauces. And that's where you really bring the flavor, you know, you pour all the sauces on. Take it to flavor town. Yeah.

And I am, I'm right there with you. I'm pretty sure the last time I was there was over 10 years ago. And my wife just always brings it up. And I'm like, not usually in the middle of the day in the mood for a huge buffet, you know, cause it's a buffet, it's all you can eat. So I can't go there and like not go hard and uh today was just that that right day and it was pretty damn good like it's it's the thing with those things is because you're making your own it's kind of on you to decide how good it's going to be and when you're experimenting

with the sauces it leaves a lot of i would still prefer someone to make my food for me like no these are the sauce this is the sauce proportions that need to make it good. Right. But I was, I was still, uh, for like $13, all you could eat. I'm like, yeah, that was, that was totally worth it. I, I walked away feeling pretty good, but I was just very curious if you had ever experienced too hot before. Um, yeah, I have. And you don't like know like it all seems good in practice or in in theory to me but as i'm thinking about it the thing i notice like i always tend to lean towards the beef as my protein source when i go to something like that and it feels like i don't know what the cut of beef that is that they're using but it always is so damn tough or am i misremembering that um

so that's like i feel like the beef just looks tough when I look at it. They cut this, they cut it so thin that by the time they cook it, by the time they cook it, it gets feeling pretty crispy. Actually, I did just have to look here. David said, if you walked away feeling good from an Ali Kineet buffet, you did it wrong. It's actually just dawned on me right now. We didn't go there. We had a crazy day. So we didn't go there until three. And I so we didn't go there till three and i'm just realizing right now i never ate dinner tonight so i mean i was i was incredibly full like i didn't feel uh completely normal than when i went but or when i got done but yeah the beef was better than i thought it would be i thought it turned out fairly decent because yeah you can get those pieces they're a little thick and then they get like rubbery or weird i was i was fairly happy

with it yeah big keith in the discord he said bad chicken is better than bad beef i don't know it's tough almost any almost any beef is better than chicken in my opinion yeah usually that's true okay so i i'd be curious i would actually like to have it again to tell you the truth i would like to i would like to try that again also there i had to check to see what their uh locations were mostly midwest and mountain region which surprised me a little bit okay um i wanted to i've got a topic about quarterbacks in here all right you know what that is do you know what i'm talking about i've heard of this position before yeah we're talking football here i think uh i don't know if the actual word should be quarterback or quarterbacks i don't know if it really has an s on it but talking about the uh netflix

documentary oh i didn't see that who okay was it did you see it or no i just saw i saw that it existed is it mahomes cousins and oh the guy that played for the falcons that got drafted by the titans uh marcus mariotta ah okay i mean he gets like benched halfway through the season so they kind of quit following him maybe not the best person to follow in hindsight and i don't need to talk about the whole show but what i want to talk about is uh the training that they show in there the lifting that uh people need to if you if you haven't uh if you haven't checked this show out you know watch it and pay special attention to the to the gym time that they show yeah i would just say it is a really it is a good show i like watching that much more than i like watching an nfl football game to tell you the honest truth that's way more interesting than uh watching oh there wasn't a commercial break every 30 seconds

right yeah that's probably most of it i think we've talked about this before but that is that is like what ruins football is the number of breaks is absolutely insane and it might be even worse when you're in person because then you realize the tv timeouts and all that shit there's just nothing going on ever like it just kills the pace of a game actually i remember i went to that asu game i i think i complained about that last november i got back and i said everyone that was with us as huge football fans even my father-in-law he reffed college football for years and he was like this is too much like this this is insane the number of breaks going on this makes no sense yeah go ahead um no it's overall a good show and you know how netflix has been doing the different sports like you talked about uh

formula one golf tennis and the rate it's made shit bikes yeah it's made shit take off now i think this documentary is really going to be what it takes to make football take off gonna be big this fall yeah i think i think football is really going to take off now that they did this show on Netflix. It's finally going to get the respect it deserves. But my quick notes is Cousins is just as vanilla as you think he is, if not even more so. Oh, 100%. I'm like, wow, that guy. Yeah, you can't play your personality to be that vanilla unless you actually know you know that would be

him and his i mean his family that's what that would actually be the coolest thing ever if somehow he can pretend to be that vanilla and then all of a sudden you're like oh no this guy's just like going off freaking out all the time when you actually get the behind the scenes but yeah that's not surprising at all yeah that is not an act. And then the most interesting part, like I said to me, was Mahomes showing him training. So he's got his own personal trainer. And the shit they have him doing.

Is it the balance on one thing with the BOSU ball and do this? And because Patrick gets in weird positions, so he needs to know how to react from any... That's why I'm like, all this wild shit and all this weird, weird, wild, wacky agility stuff. And I'm like, you're not improving Patrick Mahomes' agility with this drill. You're just, all you're doing is,

you have a genetic freak right here in terms of speed, uh, agility, you know, mobility, uh, in a number of ways. And all you're doing is just like putting it on display by putting them through these drills. Like, I don't think you're honing anything when you, when you put, when you make Patrick Mahomes do that stuff. I think you're just, you're just, you're getting to display someone that's just like, uh, well, a gift. And also again, like, are you actually making him better? Like, are you doing the, are you actually training? Are you doing like dumb testing? You know, again, like that's, that's what I thought is, and granted you don't see the full picture, so I don't want to shit on the, you know,

strength coach. They ask too much because not, I don don't know but just the bit that you see in the show it kind of looks bogus to me and you know never once did he do just what you might consider a normal barbell movement not that you have to there again i don't even know if you need to do that shit if you're patrick mahomes although maybe maybe if he's gonna waste the time doing something maybe if he did that is maybe yeah at the end of the day like if you're gonna block out you know this many hours per week like wouldn't you just think like well let's make it like as valuable as possible and and Patrick Mahomes doesn't need to be a power lifter yeah of course but maybe if you've uh even if you for whatever reason maybe you don't want him to barbell back

squat maybe you're having him do a goblet squat. Maybe I just feel like getting bringing up just some of those basic strength numbers would be of more of an asset to him than, you know, having them do these cone one legged leap hop bounding in and out stuff. In my very uneducated opinion, I'll be the first to admit that it just seems like a stronger quarterback would be a more resilient like resistant to injury like that's their biggest concern once you're good it's like once people know you're good you just like don't want to get hurt and you would think that doesn't just being stronger kind of not like you have to be insanely strong like you were saying but just being a little stronger doesn't that maybe make you a little more resistant to getting hurt when the 350 pound d lineman comes through and just destroys you see i would think so yeah that's that would be my take

on it that was my take i mean it it seemed there again there's i i don't know everything about it i don't know actually what they're doing but just from the bit that i see on the show i leave that thinking what in the hell are you actually doing here? Like, I don't think you're progressing anything. I think you're just showing the talents of a really talented person. And at the end of the day, it's like, what does that actually make you better at? Like you set up this one time drill. Like, does that actually make you better at anything?

Or did you just do some crazy fitness competition one time? And you're like, OK, now that's not repeatable so we're not actually getting better at anything here right um other notes it is just it is funny this is true about almost everyone uh it's definitely true about most of these athletes even though maybe maybe there's a certain level of stardom where it's not true but everyone almost everyone at the end of the day is just a normal dude. Like just the, cause there's some pretty candid stuff about this. And it's like, uh, you know, Marcus Mariota gets home from a game and it's like, they're having a kid and they need to work on putting the Ikea crib together.

It's a pain in the ass. It's like, yeah, that's what we all are doing. And then it's like, um, Patrick Mo Holmes dogs are being pains in the ass yeah it's like yeah that's what we all are doing and then it's like um patrick moe holmes dogs are being pains in the asses and like jumping over the fence and he's out in the like they're interviewing his wife and he's in the back yelling and screaming at his dogs i'm like just and just then just like their interactions with their buddies you know like on say monday you know not other players but they're legitimate friends just they're they're dudes just and i'm like oh it's just literally like if you were sitting around with your buddies the monday but they're legitimate friends, just their, their dudes just. And I'm like, Oh,

it's just literally like if you were sitting around with your buddies, the Monday after a powerlifting meet and you're just kind of shooting the shit on it, you know, it is just funny how even maybe the most high level of star athlete is still just kind of dudes doing their thing. Yeah. I mean,

that's what, that's what it is at the end of the day though. Right. They're just playing a game and having fun, but getting paid a ton of money to do it. Yep. Living the living. That's, I guess that's what they mean by living the dream. Although would say the strength training looked like shit to me. Honestly, I expected you to say that. I really wasn't expecting you to be like, you know what? I was really impressed with their training regimen. It was very, very good. Like that, that would have been a surprise if he said that. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. So that's quarterback. I would recommend if you're, if you're into football at all, you'll like it actually. Maybe if you're not into football. No, I think that that's actually fair because I, my wife watched that with me and she would never watch a football game. Well, very rarely ever want to watch a football game.

Um, but it was interesting to her. about because it was okay how many episodes is it like four oh it's like the right amount of episodes yes that's not bad at all i was gonna say how would you say it compares to hard knocks because my wife also does not enjoy watching football there was a couple years where we watched hard knocks and she liked watching that we haven't done it the last couple seasons it's way more comparable to hard knocks than it is a game i think uh you know if you say you have a wife doesn't like watching a football game but kind of likes hard knocks i think this is even better than that okay because this has a lot of the wife's in it and stuff too it is really just like they're and i suppose it really is just

focused on like three guys where hard knocks focused on like 10 different guys that are rookies while also trying to show the veterans it's yeah yes yeah so that's quarterback that was our quarterback quarterback discussion for this for this episode uh should we do a little uh supporting our supporting members or yeah we do or do we want to talk about our trip that we've got coming up maybe we should talk about the trip yeah we've got coming up? Maybe we should talk about the trip. Yeah, I'm too excited. Okay, we do have a big trip. We finally booked it, didn't we? It's been booked. So the trip is... We're going to beautiful Ohio!

Again. One of the few places we go every year from Massanomics is Ohio. We just love the Midwest so much that even when we book trips, we go to the other side of the Midwest. Yeah, so we go to Ohio every March, but March just seemed too far away. Yeah, so now we're going back to Ohio in the end of September. Very end of September we're headed there. We've got a few sunny days of vacation in Ohio.

We're also going to Michigan in that trip. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We're really crossing states here. We're touching going to Michigan in that trip. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We're really crossing states here. We're touching down in Ohio. Do we want to give just some brief specifics on what we're doing? So we're going to touch that. This is the itinerary at the moment. Of course, things can always change.

We hope they don't. But as of right now, the plan is we are going to touch down in Dayton, Ohio. Are we flying into Dayton? Is that where we're going to end up? Is it Dayton or Columbus? Actually, I can't remember now. We looked at one of those. It's one of those? Is that where we're going to end up? Is it Dayton or Columbus? Actually, I can't remember now. We looked at it. It's one of those two.

It's one of those two, yeah. We're flying to either Dayton or Columbus, one of those two. We're going to get in a rental car. We're going to Elite FTS. We're going to record an episode. Yeah, in London, Ohio. We're going to be on Table Talk, which is pretty awesome. Do an episode of Table Talk.

Yes, that should be really cool. Still not totally sure why. Out of all the people you people you could pick we're gonna be one of them on there but it'll be a lot of fun also they normally go for like three plus hours i'm very curious how long ours will go for well and dave did say something about wanting us to train in there a little bit oh really too so i don't i don't't know exactly what he did. He hasn't been a man of a lot of words on the whole thing. And so and I, you know, I haven't pressed him on any of it too much. So but we'll probably be at the compound for several hours. Yeah. Well, just the podcast. Yeah, it's going to take a long time. That's going to take a half a day damn near,

you know, what we do. Our two hour thing takes like four hours to do. So, uh, right. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if we have five hours, four to five hours just wrapped up into podcast time. So we'll have that. And who knows what else? Of course,

we'll be doing lots of video travel, vlogging, whatever we do. Uh, so people can, can follow along with us afterwards. But when we're done with that on that night yes okay yeah so we're flying in friday or we're getting up early friday morning hopping on the

plane friday afternoon we'll go do this podcast friday night when we're done we're getting back in the car we're driving way up north to detroit rock city yep and det, Michigan. And then we're going to wake up Saturday morning and do some recording with Dr. Mike Israetel. And then we're going to Mike Israetel's compound. That will also be very funny. That'll be an interesting experience. I don't know all the particulars yet about what we got going on there exactly yet either, but no doubt it'll be fun whatever it is

yeah uh mike he'll have the privilege of being will he be the first guest that's actually had three episodes to himself yeah i suppose well i don't know if that's technically true or not what about like brad night soul have you been well i'd say in the modern era we're gonna go modern era here yeah that's probably true then you know since episode like 200 it'd be the first three pete well we got some time to research that we can we can get into that one a little bit but yeah uh and see how we're gonna record with him on saturday hop right back on that plane come home saturday night it's gonna be a crazy like yeah by the time we finish yeah when we finish recording with him, we pretty much need to book it to the airport to catch our flight

to get back to South Dakota late that night. Yeah, yeah. So that's going to be where we got this mostly finalized last week. And so I was very excited. I think it was when we were recording last week, we'd find out about all this. And I was very excited going into last week's podcast so we had all this stuff going on and so yeah the next few weeks next month month and a half it's prep time tanner yeah let's uh we but we got everything booked and that that

part's uh kind of a pain in the ass to make sure everything yeah when you're going out of different out of different airports and renting cars and all that there's a lot of working with multiple schedules and looking at travel times and there's several moving pieces there yes there is but stay tuned we'll probably have more on that as we get a little closer here um but we do not have almost any spare time in that trip it is basically blocked up from the moment we leave until the moment we get back and we'll probably be pushing the boundaries on just about every way there yeah you know we could probably start recording our footage now and have mike do one of those videos where he roasts us for our training routine where he makes fun of all the loser midwesterns attempts to power

yes okay all right now supporting our supporting members this week so what is supporting our Loser Midwesterns attempts to power leftists. Yes. Okay. All right. Now supporting our supporting members this week. So what is supporting our supporting members? It's a relatively new segment of the podcast. We've got the supporting members that help support the Massomics podcast. They have been for years. They choose to do that monetarily. They get some things in return.

One of them is access to our exclusive discord community full of other like minded individuals. That's one of the biggest perks I'd say. You also get a discount code for our store, our merchandise. You also get early access when we drop new items in there. When we got new shorts, new shirts, new drink spotters, stuff like that, you get early access and you also get kind of a peek behind the curtain of what we got going on also. And then in addition to that, every week we pick out a few of you guys and gals in there that are doing stuff that we find noteworthy that comes across our desk and we put it on our list. It's not an inclusive list.

We don't cover everything that went on in all of your lives over the last week, but we do hit a few of the highlights. your lives over the last week but we do hit a few of the highlights so this week i would mention that big paul foss from sioux falls was the guest on this week's unpaid and underrated podcast i listened to that paul did a great job just like i would expect every good south dakotan to do on a podcast so that's right it's the home team good job big paul uh big colton another this is like the sioux falls episode it's a growing contingency down here yeah there is it's the people some people are maybe even saying that it's crew falls actually i almost have to i almost have to interrupt you for a second here tanner i went to the i never work out on the weekends just it doesn't work very

good with my schedule but i did go work out on the weekend the last weekend and i feel like i was a celebrity in the gym the people coming up to me saying are you the massonomics guy it was like non-stop and some of the people one of the guys was from aberdeen actually two of the guys were from aberdeen they graduated anyone i know or um they were they're a lot younger they graduated from high school they're about grayson's age okay some of the guys from there another another guy that just watches the podcast another another person that knew who I was. It was like crazy. You have to go on the weekend more often.

Damn, I feel like a celebrity in this gym right now. All these people coming up and talking to me. And then yesterday I went to the Sioux Empire Fair. I had my Lyft shirt on. I wasn't there three minutes and somebody came up to me and she goes you're one of the massonomics guys right and i said yep that's me she's like oh my gosh what are you doing here and so i had to explain the whole story and was she wearing a massonomic shirt she was not but were any of these people wearing massonomic shirts no but all of them say the same thing like

oh i normally one day i don't wear my shirt yeah yeah likely story yeah uh did your wife get sick I normally have a Mastodon shirt. Likely story. Did your wife get sick of it at all? She's just like, whatever. Okay, do your thing. You think you're so cool with your fancy shirts and your podcast. But speaking of Crew Falls, people. So it is Crew Falls now.

It's not Sioux Falls. It's crew falls. A big Colton down there competed in a strongman competition. Sounded like he did well, got second in the super heavyweight class. He ran down some of those events, did a heavy hold for heavy farmers, heavy yoke. Second place for big Colton. Big Toby also competed in a strongman competition. Uh, this weekend is big Toby from Arizona. That was, I think maybe that's what I was going to say.

Do you think it was hot? I'm sure it was at least 100, just like they've been sharing their weather reports in the Discord. I feel like everyone's been putting that on Instagram. Just everyone's weather report is 100 plus all week. Yes. Big Toby got second overall in his master's class. Did well, of course. Looked like he won the sandbag carry for distance event

and did well in some others. And then I saw Big Jonte in there. Big Jonte Hollins, I think this is Big Jonte. He competed. He had a 474 squat, a 297 bench, and a 575 deadlift, and that deadlift was a PR. So great job, Big Jonte. deadlift and that deadlift was a PR.

So great job, Big Jonte. So congrats all the crew for all the crew stuff that everyone's had going on here. Good work, crew. Tommy, should we hit a couple ads quick and then get Big Jimmy? I think it's that time.

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I like Big He shared on the unpaid and underrated podcast. They had a poll of, of our former guests on the podcast, who can answer one question the longest. And the choices were either, uh, John Anderson, uh, Chris Duffin or nitro from American gladiators. And, uh, if I had to put an honorable mention in there, can you think of anyone else that gave very long answers? Honestly, I think those are the three great choices right there. Those are three great choices. If I had to put an honorable mention in there, I would add. Why can't I think of his name?

Strong man. Travis Ortmeier. No. Derek Poundstone. Oh, Derek Poundstone. Yeah. He talked for quite a while, too. He was giving us all great information, but he gave some very long responses to you.

But John Anderson, John Anderson won and he's the clear winner. He's the right answer. John Anderson doesn't even need someone else on the other side of the phone call. He needs no, yeah, he needs no, he has no competition in that. Yeah. Okay. Oh, big Eddie put a picture of him. I see that. Jimmy in here. Yeah, picture of him. I see that.

With Jimmy in here. Yeah, that's good. Where was that at? Probably at, like, doesn't Eddie do, like, Swiss and all that stuff? Oh, I bet it was at Swiss or something like that, yeah. Got him. Awesome. Well, if you're good to go, we'll just jump right in. We don't want to ruin all our good stuff for when we're not recording.

Let's do it. All right. Big Jimmy, welcome to the podcast. We're excited to get you on, and I do think it's perfect timing. Obviously, you just came off a new world record, the heaviest powerlifting lift of all time of any lift, any form of powerlifting is at 1,401 pounds. Is that the pounds conversion? That's the pounds conversion. I wish it was 14 flats, a cooler number, but it was 1,401.

That's one of those rare circumstances. You might actually want it to be one pound less instead of one pound more. Yeah, yeah. Before they did the chips, it was going to be 1,399 or 1,405. I was like, please chip it and do 1,401. Yeah. Yeah. Before they did the chips, it was going to be 1399 or 1405. I was like, please chip it and do 1401. Yeah. So what is, what was that in kilos then? Three, I'm sorry, 636 kilos or 635, one of the two. Okay. So, and I guess, you know, for anyone, anyone that doesn't know, I assume a lot of people have seen it. Most people have probably at least seen it come across Instagram or whatever it is you use.

You've seen it somewhere, but it's the heaviest lift ever, but it's a bench press, the heaviest bench press of all time. And we'll get to more of that. But I think like the first question, I think this is, you've probably been asked this more times than you could ever count. But I think it's still worth asking because it is just such a wild thing to think about everyone i think wants to know what does that feel like like holding 1400 pounds above yourself like that well the answer surprises a lot of people and sounds really stupid but uh whatever whatever your current heaviest max is whatever the number might be how heavy that feels to you is how heavy 14 feels to me

um it's adaptation over time i remember when my max was my first shirted max ever in a meet in 2008 was 550 and that felt like a mac truck was on my body but over the course of 15 years competing in equipment slow adaptation over time it's just you know all the weights have felt same from six seven eight nine thousand all the way up like yes they're heavier but the adaptation with the bones and the cns i'm not saying it feels light don't get me wrong don't get it twisted um but it feels normal so okay so if we were to say and we're going to talk about this more later but like we have some amazing videos of rep work so like when we see like eight and nine hundred pounds given that that is a fair amount under your max like that doesn't feel like bone crushingly

hard when you're unracking 800 something like that no no no no uh i i start feeling so a typical warm-up day or warm-up routine for a big bench big workout i would go from seven or eight hundred pounds my first actual like working set warm-up weight would be like 1050 to 1100 pounds it isn't really until i get over 12 where it actually starts to feel like okay it's getting it's getting serious getting heavy so eight nine 1100 is all kind of like it's kind of like toy weight sounds stupid no it makes sense because it's all relative in percentages really honestly like a percentage of 1400 you know if my uh if my max bench is is 450 you know 10 of that is 45 pounds well 10 of yours is 140 pounds you know i mean like it's just uh it's it's wild but

that's what i wondered like so if you're warming up does 800 feel i'm just picking out numbers out of the sky but does does 900 feel different than 800 to you or do they kind of feel the same like can you if you're if someone covered the weight with a trash bag and they said is it do you think this is eight or 900 could you tell the difference no i wouldn't be able to um i only know what it is visually that what's on the bar right uh but yeah i mean now obviously now the difference between seven and a thousand that's big enough gap where you could tell the difference for sure right um but i couldn't tell you exactly what the weight is it's just weight when all in all it's all just weight when it comes down to it so um yeah you know have you gotten really good you know a lot of people when you're learning, you know, it's, you know, two plates is two 25, you know, three plates is three 15,

you know, four is four Oh five, four 95. After that, the numbers start to really drop off for people for what they know the weights are like, are you like, Oh, eight plates is this nine plates is this like, do you got that math down really good? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Um, after a while, well, actually not after a while well actually not after a while pretty pretty quick uh in training the last couple of years we had to abandon our our precious american pound plates that's what i wanted yeah and go with those kilos yeah so you can't you don't even train with pound you know because a lot of power lifters they'll train with pound and competition go to kilo but you can't train with pound because you're you're

limited by barbell sleeve. Yes. Yeah. Even with the specialty barbells that I have, the F8 sport craft bench bars that have the highest tensile strength on the market right now. I still am limited. I have to use key. I don't have a choice. I don't want to use kilos. I think they suck, but I got to that point where it was just getting dangerous. We actually had to, before we had enough kilos, I was still using pound plates and we had to duct tape the plates together.

The duct tape, the taped plates to the barbell ends. It was getting really stupid. But yeah, so kilos, it's easy for me to remember when I get up to what is it when I get to seven reds. So seven reds is eight plus eight is nine plus nine is a thousand plus tens eleven hundred plus that's kind of how i remember it yeah what about then even on that that bar those specialty bar bench bars that you're using and even with the kilo plates at 1400 pounds how much room is there left on the sleeve? Like, is there much room left? Oh, probably. Could you have more reds?

Yeah, there's probably six inches of bar, enough room for a spotter to get his hands around for a proper hand. Okay. Because, like, on the video, like the one I saw, it was cut. Like, you couldn't actually even see the ends of the reds. I mean, it just looked like a block of reds. Yeah. Like, this freaking thick. Yeah. Just solid reds. I was like, I wonder how much a block of reds. Yeah. Like this fricking thick.

Yeah. Just solid reds. I was like, I didn't wonder how much room is left at the end there. Yeah. I was really happy that at this meet, sometimes the reds don't always match. Sometimes they're kind of mixed, matched different shades. Yeah. This meet, they were all the same.

Yeah. So it made for a really cool, not that that matters, but like visually it looked really cool. for really cool not that that matters but like visually it looked really cool uh but yeah we've um the most weight i've had in my hands was is 1463 so the 12 reds plus a blue on the ends and training and there was still i mean consider the kilos just make all the difference in the world they really do yeah but so what was that was that uh like a board press or uh what kind of variation was that that was uh i was bringing it down to a one board it didn't touch i think i had an oh shit moment even even i go through that stuff once in a while and i was bringing it down

to the one board and i just had this moment of like shit and i just pressed it probably a quarter inch from touching the board it's training it does it's not a contested lift um but that it was it was very heavy yeah yeah so and we could i want to ask a question before i ask the next question i'll ask is you to explain maybe the difference in kind of the different shirts because we're talking to this is you're wearing it and i'd also preface this tommy and i were both power lifters we we've know very little shit about equipped powerlifting. We've had several equipped powerlifters on the podcast over the years, and we've learned more and more. And I've, you know, in preparation for having you on here,

I even looked at it more. I kind of understand the difference in band shirts versus poly shirts and some of that stuff, but you know way better than me. But what I'm wondering in, like, these band shirts, what could be your ceiling? Like, so now you've hit the 1400 like i just wonder because it's kind of like the person first person breaking whatever the uh you know it's like a four minute mile but like you're out ahead of the pack uh do you have aspirations of like doing 1500 pounds i mean is that even possible like do you do you not have aspirations of that because you've kind of like doing 1500 pounds? I mean, is that even possible? Like, do you, do you not have aspirations

of that? Cause you've kind of like are already out in front of everyone. What's it feel like? And what's your thought process? Well, luckily for me, I've not spent my career chasing others and trying to beat other people in the sport. I know, uh, I often tell the story. I think, I think it was Mark Bell when he was a competitive powerlifter, he had what he called his kill list. That was a list of people that he wanted to beat in the sport and after he would beat somebody he'd cross her name off and go after the next person the next person next person so i've only spent my time concerned with me and so even when i got to the top well i actually reached the top in june of 21 uh where i hit my 11 20 which was done in a single ply polyester and that at the time was the heaviest bench ever done period even including the band shirts um but even once that when i

reached that point i mean my it got eclipsed by five pounds by tiny meeker i think four months later so like whatever but um because i've spent my time focused on me and my numbers oh yeah i've got much more aspirations 14 is not the end it. It's not the ceiling. The number, as you mentioned, that I could gladly retire on and finally be happy with for life is 1,500 or three quarters of an American ton. I know an actual ton that matters, the 2,000 pounds. So that's the number I really want. And because of my recent training in the last year, eight months, it's definitely possible. Whether I do it or somebody else do it,

I do think it's humanly possible to do it. I'm stepping away from the band shirts for a little while, going back to poly. I've been doing the band shirt game for two and a half years, it's getting a little kind of redundant a little bit boring and i just can't take the stress uh the training i did to get that 1400 one week out i was i was i i did my last bench workout on saturday the week out from the meet i did my last warm-up weight before i would open her so i did it like 12 20 to a one board or something. And then called the workout done. I had about a two and a half minute personal time in my head where I didn't want to do the meat. I wanted to pull out. I just,

my heart wasn't in it. I had, I was just at the end of my rope with this training. Luckily I didn't pull out. I was like, well, once we get on the road and start making the long drive to Tennessee and get to the meet, get to the hotel hotel do the weigh-ins i'll get like meat mode and then it'll all be fine and then that's that's what happened luckily i didn't pull out words rarely spoken by most men damn i'll eat that that's fine yeah i think it would be good to explain then difference in shirts. I guess from what I know, uh, band is what would be considered unlimited.

Polly woods is what would be considered traditionally single ply or multi-ply depend, depending on what, what, uh, thickness of the material of the poly. But what's, how do you explain the difference?

So, you know, we got a lot of people that listen to that probably don't know. So, well, like you said, polyester is fabric, fabric to fabric, just as poly is to denim, different fabrics, but fabric nonetheless.

And you have single ply, which is just one layer of polyester. You do have single ply denim shirts, but they're kind of dinosaur technology. Never see single ply denims anymore. So you got single ply poly, which I really, really, really enjoy. I did a lot of single ply poly, which I really, really, really enjoy. I did a lot of single ply poly in 2021. And then you have multiply, which is just anything more than one layer. So double ply all the way to three, four, there are very high multilayer poly shirts out there. And then the band shirts came out quite a few years ago, but they're multilayered shirts,

but they're not made of fabric like poly or denim. They're made of what you would, I'm sure everybody knows what knee wraps are, stretchy, elastic like knee wraps. And that's essentially what they're made of is knee wrap material. They're called band shirts, and they're in their own separate category called unlimited. At first, when they hit the market, federations were just lumping them into multiply. Oh, yeah, that's multiply. That's fine. We got pissed. We're like, no, this is

very, very, very different. It needs its own category. And we got that win, I think in 21 or 22 when they officially separated into its own category called the Unlimited Division. So you're okay with it as long as it's separated by its own category,

which it is. Yes. Are there some people that don't like it? Oh, yeah. Don't like the shirts or the fact that it's separated? No, no, that don't like the shirts. They would say, even though it's separated, I still don't like it. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's fine. I didn't want to do them at first. I was very, very happy. So you were closer in that camp almost more so originally that you're like, eh, I don't know about these band shirts. So what changed your perspective then on it? Well, so two things happened.

One, they got their own division. So big win. That's awesome. It's its own thing, its own entity. The sport recognizes that it is, in fact, so different. It's completely different and back in the day like I'm talking like I'm old or something but back in the day it was actually illegal to add things to your shirt Gene Richlack the first man to bench 900 and a thousand pounds

oftentimes got reported or accused of hiding things in his shirt like bungee cords or like elastic material which is illegal and these shirts come out that are made of nothing but elastic material it's like well how's this how's this all right but so it's a category that's the first win that's the first reason i was okay with it second thing happened was when i benched 11 20 in single ply poly in june of 21 at york barbell uh in november of that same year tiny meeker came up to york barbell i was competing there as well i bombed out sucked but he benched 11 25 in a four or five layered band shirt to eclipse my mark i was like all right i'll play this game with y'all i'll just yeah everybody else is doing

it my contemporaries my peers are all doing it i I'll play your game. I didn't want to at first, but I'll do it. And then I'll, and then I've done what I've done. So, right. It is interesting. And, uh, I'll, I'll shout out a long time listener of the podcast. Uh, Dylan Coates is his name. He came up and did, uh, uh, our power lifting meet a couple of weekends ago and he competes single ply, multi-ply.

He did a single ply bench only he had a 529 bench and i was talking to him this week and he said uh he's uh applied a lot of what he's called cold principles he's trains a lot of uh a lot of his training he's catered to like what he's learned from you and he said he's uh had the most success he's ever had based on doing that. But anyways, we were talking and I was just talking to him. I was, you know, kind of prodding him to get more information on these bent shirts. And I guess what seemed odd to me, and you tell me what you think about it from your perspective, because then again, I'm not in that world, but, you know, maybe the mentality

is that's not what we've done so we don't like it and you kind of talked about it there before it's like that's not what we're all doing so it's almost like above and beyond and and his other point was that well band shirts maybe don't have quite as stiff of a learning curve as the poly shirts i don't know if you'd say the same yes as that but then just my devil devil advocate thought as well, what's the point of the equipment is the point of the equipment to be challenging to use, or is the point of the equipment to allow you to lift as much weight as

possible? Yeah. So, I mean, the original, the original design and purpose was to keep you from getting hurt, to keep you from tearing your pack, from blowing out your shoulder, from ripping your quads. Gear has been used in the sport since the 80s, early 80s. People don't realize that. Gear's been around for like 40, 50 years. So 40 years, whatever. But anyway, so it's been a part of it.

We're not sticklers for the exact facts out here we make stuff up all the time want to be historically accurate yeah so it's like 80 i think the squat suit came out in 80 or 81 the bencher came out in 84 i think um don't quote me exactly but it's been a part of the sport for a very long time and in the 2000s that's what everybody did was just multiply it was that's that was the biggest thing had the biggest payouts um but it kind of switched so the original design you know stop getting hurt whatever with the benefit of lifting more weight obviously it's switched where the point is to lift more weight you're not going to get hurt yes the weights are heavier but you're not going to tear a pack you're not going to blow out a shoulder if you're doing things correctly

of course but um anytime you hear somebody ripping a pack what are they doing they're they're benching raw right right do what you want but like i i want to do this sport for decades not just years uh and the serious uh tear or something still being a natural athlete is going to set me back quite a ways and i don't want to do that um yeah the band, the band shirts, I mean, they are easier to learn, uh, but you're all going to lift maximum weights with them and a sport where, you know, the point on the equip side, especially it's about lifting more weight. Um, I think there's a lot to learn with Polly or even denim. Uh, I started out in a double ply denim, a hand-me-down Karen Klein, two ply denim was my first bench shirt I ever had by

Amanda and Adam Hicks. And, uh, he me, if you can learn how to bench in that thing, you can bench in anything. That's been true to this day. So I like advocating for, I think there's skill to be learned in poly that can be very beneficial if you go to a band shirt. The opposite is not necessarily true. I'm in fact, going back to poly myself, I have to relearn how to do poly correctly. Cause it's so different and so much more technical. There's a lot of routes you can take with that argument, but I think it's all awesome when you come down to it. Yeah.

I think that's a good, I think that's a good attitude to have on it too. So as long as we're talking about bench still, if you could just, you only get to name three, who do you think are the three best benchers of all time, regardless of, you know, equipment, gender, body weight, you know, just your three best benchers of all time, however you categorize it, it's your list. So you get to say whatever you want. Well, number one spot, I will forever say this to anybody in person or online.

The person who still inspires me to this day, my hero, is Ryan Cannelli. The most unadulterated, badass motherfucker in the sport that'll ever live, Ryan Cannelli. Holy shit, the bench monster. So he's my number one. Number two, I'd give it to julius max because he's got the highest raw bench of all time you can't you can't take anything away from the man he's absolutely incredible uh only three well in present company not excluded you know and that's wouldn't be tommy and i so you could you could what i'm saying you could be on the list

also here you know i don't want to know that's's egotistical. I'll be able to do that. No, I, then I'd put Laura Phelps as being one of the best. Also just what she did in the two thousands. Still, I don't think we'll ever be matched to her body weight, benching five 40 at one 65 and a poly squatting,

almost 800 pounds. Like just insane. I mean, I have a list of like 10 or 12 but to condense it down to three yeah i'd say ryan julius and laura absolutely are the best ever i mean it would be i i suppose people could make an argument of adding other people to the list but then who do you you got to take somebody off too so that's the tricky part too yeah that's really tricky yeah um what do you think like i

don't i don't know i've never heard him say anything about even wanting to do it but like someone like julius i i would imagine paulie is such a learning curve you throw him in a shirt and it's not like it could be years before he even gets anything like i and his raw numbers are so high um that seems like a very uphill battle to even learn how to use that especially at his size it's like what do you even find to use for that i don't know but curious on your take or if he goes uh banded could he could he do more what if he his first month of banded shirt benching could he do more than what he can raw like what would that what would that training curve be like for something like that no it'd be a pretty immediate i mean anybody

can throw on a shirt especially a band shirt that's very very easy to learn low low learning curve or shallow but uh he'd be able to bench a lot more right away um julius would have to just be a lot more technical of a bench presser. I think he'd have to really dial in technique. There's so much more technical things that go into shirted benching, even, even considering poly or band shirt, but like, we'll just even for poly sake, it is so technical. There is one path that bar can take it's called the groove. And if you come out of that groove, you'll dump it. It's just,

you can't, you can't touch here, here, here. You have one spot. And in particular, i use katanas for 12 years straight and when you're trying to touch a weight in a katana with that very technical groove that it has you have millimeters of movement that you can that you can leeway one way or the other it feels like the weight thing on a fishing line when you're going for a touch if you don't what millimeter two way or front you're going to dump it on your belly or dump it towards your face it's so technical and there's a reason why it took me 17 years i'm sorry 15 minus 2 13 years i went the opposite direction uh 15 years competing so it took me 13 years in shirts in the same style of shirt katanas for 13 years to hit my 11 20 and i specialized in equipment for 13 years now 15 years i've been

doing band shirts for over two but i mean it's a very technical hardcore thing um so the technical aspect he's got the strength behind it he just has to learn how to do it um whether he wants to take the time to do it i think he's he seems pretty set in what he's doing um i would be too if i was in his position but yeah you know it's it's all on what you want as an individual what you want to get out of the sport yeah and so when you said when you said like for that 13 years were you using katana shirts the entire 13 is that so is there i mean is there that much of a variance between different brands and styles with them like is that that much of a thing absolutely it is yeah because you

got different cuts you got different uh sewing methods you've got different uh collars materials the material really makes or makes the difference in the shirt so a single ply katana to a triple ply sdp from enzer are as two different worlds i mean it's it's poly to poly but the different cuts different styles grid stitch not grid stitch open, open back, close back, Velcro, you know, double ply, triple ply, single ply. There's so many different variations. So it's not one of those things like I did 1100 in a Katana. Yeah, just bring me the other shirt. I'll also do 1100.

Like, that's not how that goes at all. I mean, there is a learning curve for each one. Yeah, there is. Yeah. Yeah. Each shirt has its own unique groove, own unique behaviors that you have to learn and master um so is part of is part of that game also like figuring out like what shirt is best for your body type too is that a component of it okay yeah i was able to get away with katanas katanas are a

very very dense very stiff uh material very high dense stiff polyester. I'm able to get away with that because apparently I have abnormally short humerus bones. I get flack all the time for having like two centimeter long arms. I mean, they seem pretty normal to me, but whatever internet stuff, but I get away with it because I've got a very short, what we call the stroke, a very short distance that I have to move or I can make a very stiff material, move my short distance and come back. Now, somebody like Ryan Cannelli is somebody that has very long arms is not going to have as much luck with a very stiff material because they have to move the bars to further distance. Therefore, that material has to move a further distance.

So somebody with long arms, longer stroke would fare better with stretchy material. So like an Inzer SDP, a Titan F6 or a band shirt, whereas somebody who's short and stocky would do well. A Titan Katana, maybe an Enzer Rage-X, something like that, stiffer material. So it's just it's body proportions. It's how you're built, body composition, things like that. A lot of different variants and things you have to think about. How big around are your upper arms you ever measure them uh cold yeah i don't do it very often i think they're they're like 23 and a yeah three quarters or 23 and a half yeah they're big yeah uh what you were talking

about there like the technical aspect and then like the differences and the different makes and cuts and uh everything of the shirt maybe it was even you i listened to make this comparison so if it was you'll like this comparison if not tell me if it's bs or not but it was like uh raw power lifting maybe is like less of a it's obviously less technical but like less of a technical sport because it less technical, but like less of a technical sport because it is just like, it is just like a measurement of how strong you are. Whereas like equipped powerlifting or equipped benching is more of a comparison, almost like, uh, like around here, it's like dirt track racing. Like a, you have to be good at racing and then B you have to have the equipment to do it. And then most importantly, you have to know like the equipment you have.

Like you can't just be good at it and you can't just know the equipment. You have to like put it together. And it's like more of this blend of everything where the comparison I think I heard was like something to that type of racing. Was that you that said that or am I just pulling that on my ass? Not me. Okay. I like that though.

Okay. pulling that on my ass not me uh okay i like that though okay it's a or or you know drag racing just down a straight asphalt uh track as opposed to a circular track that's dirt and there's so many more variables too and things you have to know and you know temperature and composition of the dirt did it rain is it dry yeah all the different technical things it's a really good comparison yeah yeah. Okay. Tanner, just crediting yourself for new comparisons. I'll just say I made that up. Go ahead, man. It ain't mine.

Okay. The other thing people want to know then, and I think you've kind of talked about it, is when's full power then, right? Yeah, eventually, down the the road sometime in the future. So you do, you do, you do want to like,

that is a goal of yours or at some point in time though, you would like to do full power. Oh yeah. I need something different. I've been doing, I did, I done bench only. I did full power.

I mean, when I was a kid, when I was 18, 19, 20, I think my last full power meet was when I was 22 or 21. So I did it. I did it because I

thought you had to, to, I mean, I still to this day think that if you're a bench only guy or a deadlift only guy, you're not a power lifter because powerlifting is the sport of squat bench and deadlift. That's just my opinion. My wife disagrees with that. Um, so I, I consider myself a bench specialist or a bench press athlete, not a power lifter. Um, I do, I've been doing bench only for the majority of my 15 years competing, uh, 19 years lifting weights. Um, and I need to change up. I gotta do something different. I mean, not that I've never enjoyed what I'm doing, but especially these last, oh man, eight months or so the training I put myself through and the pain, I'll tell you what, man, like benching 1400 at that meet, it didn't even feel like a bench press.

It's just shearing forces, just painful pressure. I can't even tell what's going on. I just know that there's a bar in my hands and I'm in pain and it doesn't even feel like I'm bench pressing. It's just forces. So I need a break from that for a little while. And doing full power would be an interesting, like new challenge. Um, having to put all three lifts together, the things that come with squatting and deadlifting, and I can't deliver because I got a bench press body, but I'll make do. Um, so I do, I do want to get into something different. I tell people that the 1400 mark at the end of a journey, then they get worried. Like, well, what does that mean? You're done? Like,

oh, I'm not, I'm not done forever. I'm done for right now. Um, you know, in, in less than a, or just over a year's time becoming the first human to do a 1200, 1300 and 1400 pound bench press. I'm pretty satisfied for a little while and now i could kind of turn the page got rid of the mohawk uh fresh you know fresh uh start and do something different for a while so yeah that'd be kind of interesting to get into i think that's cool people would be interested on that i saw donnie and his story the other day i'm sure you saw what do you say uh what are the numbers that uh uh jimmy would do to get to 3 000 or so if you go in full power what would you expense expect your bench to be like i mean if you're squatting beforehand is that you know your bench is a full body exercise when when you're doing what you're

doing i mean is that going to take will you still be able to hit numbers like that in full power well does it take off or what do you expect? Well, I'm doing, I'm not doing band shirts in full power either. I'm doing poly. That's the other thing too, is I want to do it. What I see is the right way. And if I want to join the ranks and have the respect from Chad Ikes, AJ Roberts, Dave Hoff, Donnie Thompson. Yeah.

I need to do it the way they did it. And they're not using band shirts even though they weren't around at the time but doing full power with a band shirt i could do that um but i want to do it the way they did i want to do it the hard way the right way as i see is the right way so my bench is going to be considerably lower than it is i'm not going to be doing 13 1400 pounds in a full meet with a band shirt. Uh, so even though it's a full body lift, um, with conditioning being well enough at the time, I don't think the lower body will be an issue. What's going to be an issue for me is the flexibility, the mobility

and the shoulders to get a straight bar on my back. That's, what's going to hurt me in the bench is straight bar squats. And I just started the process this week, actually, on Monday, I go down to see my chiropractic buddy in Fredericksburg, Virginia, once a week on Mondays. And I said, Hey, I got a project for us. He's like, do tell. And I said, I got to put a straight bar on my back. It was okay, cool. So we started working on it right away. So that's going to be the challenge is making sure my shoulders don't get obliterated. Right. With enough mobility, that shouldn't be a problem. But right now, like it's it's it's no bueno.

So got to work on that. Yeah, that makes sense. Tommy talked about the rep work that you do in the bench press. And like we've had a few like I said, we've had a few multi-ply guys on the show in the past, and a lot of them are, they've come from almost like, I guess I'd say the Westside Conjugate School of Powerlifting. It seems like your training is different than that, from what I understand. So I guess what I would wonder is, in your opinion, compared to what you do, what does Westside Conjugate have wrong? What were they doing wrong? What were they doing right? You know, or how have you, what's, how is yours different than that?

I'll start with the right part. I really, really like and agree and apply the principle of rotating your movements, avoiding the law of accommodation. Absolutely. That is a absolute necessity. So these kids these days that train SBD five or six days a week or more, I think really got it wrong. Never doing any variance, just doing straight bar squat bench deadlift. And when you say when you say rotating movements, like how often are you talking here?

Like what is like how often does something need to be rotated out once a week? Oh, OK. OK. So I got two bench days a week. One day is for just heavy shirted bench work. That's on Saturdays. Wednesday is my variation day where I always do something different. I don't even know what I'm doing until I get to the gym. I'm just like, show up. And I'm like, Hmm, what haven't I done in a while?

What would suck? What would be very difficult? Let's do that. So Wednesdays, I always change something up, do something different. That's one thing that Westside absolutely got correct. That is, that is law of accommodation. You do something too often for too long, you start going backwards, you stop progressing. So that's what I apply to my training right now. What I don't like, and I'm very, very,

very vocal about it and very opinionated about it. People don't like it, but I do not like, no, I hate the speed work. I think speed work is is worthless i think it's for the birds your max effort your true max effort lift is not going to move like this it moves like that you gotta put my weight on the bar it's not your max your max weight is going to be a battle it's going to be a grinder of a lift so i think your time should be better well spent not doing sissy foo-foo percentages and 60% with bands and chain, all that difficult crap that just makes this seemingly not complicated sport extra complicated. No percentages and bands, accommodating resistance, all that stuff for speed. No, I think you should learn how to be strong, be strong for long periods of time, learn how to grind a lift out because how your max lift is probably going to move like that 1400 was a grinder. I didn't think I was going to get it.

Um, so speed work is one thing that I just rip apart. Uh, anytime somebody's willing to listen to me talk about it or ask, I rip speed work apart. Like it's my job. So you could, um, because you're rotating in variations on your non-shirted day, you're rotating in variations. So would you potentially use accommodating resistance occasionally on those rotations? Or do you stay away from it altogether then? Stay away from it. Last year, the year of 2022, I can count, I need two fingers. I can count twice that I used any accommodating resistance in the entire year of training.

It was twice. Once I was doing banded lockouts on a bench. And the second time was I had chains on a floor press. That was it. I think people get too wrapped up with accommodating resistance and having this much in the bottom and this much at the top and this and this, all these percentages, all this crazy crap. My very simple philosophy is I want to lift heavy weights on the platform. I have to lift heavy weights in the gym consistently, get good at lifting heavy weights. And we don't compete with bands. We don't compete with chains.

We compete with straight weight. So I want to get really good and efficient at lifting straight weight. So everything I do is straight weight and heavy, and I really good and efficient at lifting straight weight so everything i do is straight weight and heavy and i can do that i can get away with that because of the rotation of the movements so one day i come in and i do max effort and most of this is equipped in some fashion or form whether it be with a sling part of the variation yeah i mean you know what you're wearing is part of the variation of what you're doing correct i'm just it's called my not sure today just because i'm not wearing a bench shirt but i'm wearing some other apparatus that as adding assistance or protection uh not

always raw sometimes assisted in some way shape or form i might do uh reverse grip four press next week uh reverse grip raw three board the next week two inch range of motion like lockouts the next week full range reps five by five there's i'm always changing it up cambered bar three board work you know just anything but it's always straight weight because i want to get good at lifting straight weight that's what we do on the platform so on on those days are you usually, are you doing a top set or are you doing straight sets or what, how do you handle that? You know, are you doing one top set of five when you're going forward and then back downs or does that change even? Does that part of it change too? That's always changing.

It's really about what I want to's, it's, I, it's really about what I want to accomplish, but also how I feel. So some days, like once in a while, I'll just walk in there and go, Hmm, uh, I have rep out sets, uh, in a slinger, but also in a shirt, you know, stuff like that. I'll be like, well, I haven't done a rep out set with 706 months. Let's just try that, you you know just work up to that set and be done um and hopefully that number either i can match it from six months ago or increase upon it and that means my training is going in the right direction um or i'll do like a five by five or i'll work up to a heavy triple and then maybe do some back down sets i didn't feel like i worked

hard enough for just there's all there's so many things that I can change and move around and always as long as I'm being challenged and it's difficult. That's the thing, too. People get so wrapped up in the things that they're good at. You need to do you need to do things you suck at. If it's if it's difficult, if it's hard to do, you should probably do more of that. If it's difficult, if it's hard to do, you should probably do more of that. How do you record all of it? How do you know if it's a reverse grip, two board with the slinger, set of five? Where do you keep this information that you know? That's what I wondered, if you kind of mentally remember most of the big ones, the important ones? Yep. It's logged away it's just it's not that i'm super smart i'm not but it's just something i'm good at having done it

for so 19 years i can just say like i'm just kind of recall maybe not down to the finest damn detail but i can definitely recall it the last time i did this variation i hit this okay let's try to beat that or hey or you know maybe i did doubles the last time i got new triples this time or work up to a max single or do high volumes that's a 10 something crazy just making sure it's always hard and difficult that's that's the key to success okay so like on a day when you know let's say you're getting up there you know like at that 90 plus percent range you know whether that's 1100 or 1200 if you're using a band shirt what does warm warmup look like on that day? Like how, what are you taking for jumps and what are your reps look like there?

So the very first thing I do before I even lay down a bench, the empty bar, I do super D Donnie Thompson shoulder protocol. So I grab a band loop around something that I'm not going to pull over, put it across the shoulder. I do my rotations and cross the body and pronations I'll put it around the back of my shoulder and do chicken wings get all the soft tissue nice to warm and prepared how he says it prepared for the abuse you're about to put it through after I do the shoulder protocol then I lay down to do the empty bar the empty bar is the only time I will ever grab a bar raw pronated. If it's anything above the empty bar, it's all reverse grip. So I'll do the empty bar for one, two to three

sets because sometimes the first set with the empty bar feels like dog shit. So I'll do the empty bar for two to three sets close wide reverse some JMS to get all the blood and all the right areas chest, shoulders, triceps that I'll throw. So on a shirted day, so we'll use the kilos. So I'll throw one kilo, two kilo. I just,

I do plate jumps all the way up. I'll do one, two, three, four, throw a slinger on, do five or six, uh, throw my shirt on, do what I call my break in set, which is just me getting in shirted bench pressing mode with around 800 pounds for like a floating triple or something. It's not going to touch a board. It's lightweight. It's like, you know, floating reps for like three.

Then I'll jump to like 1,050 or 1,100 for my first official like heavy warm-up set. Heavy warm-up set. And then I'll hit that to like a, yeah, relatively speaking. I'll hit that to a two board or something for like a double or a triple. Then I'll go to like, if my goal was to hit a top end single, then I'll make appropriate jumps. So from 1,050 to 1,200 or 1,220, hit that for a single, maybe jump to 1,300, hit that for a single. Then whatever that goal weight is, 14, 1,405, 1,420, whatever the hell it is, hit that to a half board or a one board for a single.

And then I was doing back down sets a few weeks out from the meet, which I was having some relative success with. But that's kind of a rare thing too. So that's a lot of bench pressing. Like getting up to that single, how long is that taking you from where, let's say from where you start with the empty bar to where you're getting to that top single what's that timeline looking like oh we're looking at again this is this is the i'm working out with like five or six other people so it did not take me that long to do that at the meet that i did yeah this is right week so

but in the gym with other people and everything and all these other uh variants and uh things i'd say we start lifting at 10 o'clock um my top set i'm hitting around 12 30 at one o'clock okay so it takes some time to get up there does yeah yeah that makes sense yeah so it's a day yeah it's a day all the saturdays bro that's what's on. That's what we do. Saturdays is just, we wake up, we're benching and then we're coming home. That, that, that is what Saturdays are. So you wake up and eat and like, while, while you're waking up and eating, it's all the bench day. You know, I mean like it's thinking about the bench that's coming up, talking about

the bench that's coming up. You get there and it's like, uh, however many hours in there. And then probably after that you're eating again and like yeah then recovering from it it's a midday nap wake up edit the video together to put it on patreon and then yeah go go to sleep that night the whole day is structured around that because that's what i compete and that's what i want to be the best at yeah mentally for me my weeks actually start on sat mornings, not Mondays, not whatever it's it's Saturday mornings. And based on that performance, I based the rest of the week on till the next start of the next week, which is the next Saturday. Um, so that entire day

is structured around that workout because it was that important for this big lift. Yeah, I get that. That makes sense. Okay. All right, Jimmy, we've got this game we play with every guest that we have on. It's called Overrated, Underrated. It's pretty simple. We've got a special Jimmy Kolb set of topics here that are handpicked for you, and you just have to decide if each one is overrated or underrated.

The most important thing to remember, though, is you can't ride the line. You have to pick on each one, whether you think it's overrated or underrated. Okay, yeah, it's cool. Let's do it. Alright, so overrated or underrated Montana. Montana? Yeah. I was born there. Underrated.

Do you make it back there ever at all? I make it back. Not since I was 14. Okay. okay yeah it's been a while what part of montana because we're from south dakota so not you know not not way out of our way out of our realm here i was born at the bozeman clinic uh bozeman montana i grew up in belgrade just west of bozeman so the gallatin valley big sky country okay yeah bozeman what do they call bozeman now it's like uh like it's like a cat like that there's like a slang term from bozeman

because it's very like um nice and like very uh like it's like there's a lot of money in bozeman and stuff like that i can't remember remember. There's like a shit. It was one of the fastest growing cities in the nation at one point. There was a shit load of people flooding into Bozeman. It's been like 20 years since I've been there almost, so I couldn't help you there. I think it is much

more recent too, where it's like a lot of outside money has moved in there, where they're moving away from other places and moving to somewhere like Bozeman. So underrated Montana though. Yes. Underrated

or overrated The Exorcist? Underrated. um underrated dude scariest movie of all time that's it's been rated that by i don't know how many different platforms or sites like no definitely underrated do you feel like that title still still holds up today historically speaking if we're talking about like just horror movies from start to finish a movie history yeah i think so what it what it did to the audiences back then just i mean it's it's a i like what's a good movie even though it was 70 70 something early mid 70 like for what for the time period to do it's phenomenal I think it's great I still

love that movie what's your favorite horror movie oh god damn um well I'm gonna put it with the one that absolutely just fucked my brain as a kid uh the one that ruined every horror movie since for me was the the original the first paranormal activity okay it's a long story i won't i won't tell you unless you have time but no but i i watched that in the theaters driving it like you're saying like 2007 or whatever when that one yeah 2007 or 6 yeah they read the first one we were driving to the theater but we were listening to the radio they were talking about like oh and we knew going in it's not real the radio it's not real it's it's it's it's just like uh you know any other found footage bullshit you know like flair witch and bro it felt real i'm getting goosebumps man because it seven people left

the theater during the movie and every time it comes to that like bedroom scene where it's like that wide angle it's like night seven night night the whole room went you could just hear this like hush of like just fuck where are we gonna watch this you know what's next and my friend went to drop me off at my house for some and i lived in the boondocks in northeastern ohio like middle of nowhere. Came home. He went to drop me off. My family was gone. Every light was off in the house.

The security light somehow was knocked out. It was pitch black. I said, I'm not staying here. Let's go to your house. I could not stay in my own house that night. It fucked me up, dude. I probably would have had to walk out the movie theater. I don't think I could take it.

Seven people walked out. I couldn't fuck it one guy was like fuck this movie his girlfriend ran after him there was the first two then three more and one more and people left they couldn't finish it it was it was it was it was horrifying when we watched it the first time it's terrible it was terrible so then how did you feel about this because there was a few sequels of that too wasn't there oh there's like five or six of them now the second one was okay the third one was still okay the fourth fifth they all suck that's yeah but they're gonna as long as they can make money on it they're gonna keep making them it's just how how it works right okay that's that's good okay all right overrated underrated you talked about it i

probably know your opinion but i want to know why uh overrated or underrated? You talked about it. I probably know your opinion, but I want to know why. Overrated or underrated reverse grip benching? Underrated. Underrated. I don't know why it's not more popular. Everybody that tries it under my recommendation or others love it. It's competition legal, although a lot of people don't know that. I mean, and feds that matter. I don't know about USAPL or US PA or any of those, but, um,

but yeah, it's competition legal anatomically speaking, it's, it's a much more superior way to bench. Um, it's, it's safe for the shoulders. It's safer on the pecs. It puts all the stress on the triceps. So it's a raw bench variation with little stress on the shoulders and pecs and puts it all in the triceps. What else could I want in a, in a variation, you know? Um, yeah, it's, the rgbp reverse grip bench press the backwards bench mafia i don't know why more people don't do it so do you think more uh people that just compete just compete straight raw do you think they should be utilizing it more in their training

absolutely i do yeah i know just because everybody does everything one way does not mean there's not a better way. Um, once I dropped pronated Rob bench after 16 years doing it one way, once I learned how to reverse grip using my variation between the fingers, that's what I wanted to ask you about. And I don't know if Tommy, if you know this,

but if you watch it, he doesn't put the bar right here. The bar goes it's kind of like how people do that talent grip sort of for squat but it's almost a little different on that yeah we actually got it because that's one of the javelin throwers grips is holding but it's called the fork grip between the fingers here okay so the bar sits not horizontal on the palm it sits vertically in the hand oh some people like chad yikes will bench between the ring and middle but you can't really grab it that way but if you use that very between the

trigger middle finger you can get a nice secure grip on the bar after 16 years of benching one way once i learned how to reverse grip 16 years dropped it like a bad habit i'll never do it again it's it's it's so damn cool and beneficial and fun and it just builds everything it's it's you gotta try it it's definitely underrated i'm definitely more curious about it after you talk more and more about it that's the trick you gotta hold between these two fingers okay that doesn't i mean i i need to try it yeah like i'm still when i think about in my head that doesn't seem like natural like but oh dude it it's it's for people yeah for people listening you're talking about between your pointer and in and are between your pointer and middle finger yes i'm saying you hold it correct yeah until i can have a bar in my hands

i just still can't you'll be sure that you be surprised. It puts a lot of pressure on the bone right here. Again, because it's not horizontal in the palm, it's vertical. So all that weight is on that bone right in the palm, which is a little bit painful at first. Once you get over it, I mean, dude, I'll never go back to pronated bench. I guarantee everyone that's listening keeps going like this as they listen. You can't help but actually put your arms out there and think about what it actually feels like. We could go down that rabbit hole but i know we

don't got enough time but it is you gotta try it man is the on rack harder or rack getting used to like that like or just with a spot i suppose it doesn't matter if you have a spot or a handoff it's actually because it puts the bar in such close line with your line of force which is your forearm right here puts it in direct line with the forearm. It's a very powerful grip. It's a very powerful unrack. I'd recommend a handoff in any bench situation. When you go to rack it though,

be careful, watch your knuckles. I've taken, I've, I've pinched skin off. Yeah. Take you on my middle foot. You got to watch the rack,

kind of ease it into the rack. But besides that, man, it is, it is dope. It's awesome. Oh oh that's cool okay all right last one uh most important one here it's worth all the marbles overrated or underrated mres oh my god fucking overrated dude it's whole overrated over i will say though the only one i could yeah what's the best one dude yeah the only one that i could never get down was the ratatouille mre that is the only

damn one and when i was going through combat training or any other field ops that i did when i was in i ate all of them cold yeah yeah i never used the heat packet yeah i didn't want to i was i didn't i was too hot and didn't want to waste the time i just cracked open ate them all cold yeah but they're overrated fuck them is there a worst one in your mind like that you had well the one the ratatouille i couldn't even eat yeah okay that's the worst but the one that i i'm not i'm not i was never in the armed forces so i don't have the uh what was the ratatouille whatever the fuck ratatouille is some french stuff and oh my god i cracked it open i tried to get i was start i was really hungry i

tried to get it down i'll spit it out i think i just put the coffee grounds on my lip like a fucking like a pinch and uh yeah i just got through it but i could i just put the coffee grounds on my lip like a fucking like a pinch and uh yeah i just got through it but i could not eat that crap the ratatouille was disgusting the worst one and we've talked about it on the podcast many times the worst one i ever had and they quit making it quite a long time ago so you probably never had to come in contact with it but it was the veggie omelet was just the most atrocious piece of not food that you could ever come across. Not food.

I love that. I'm really glad. They must not have made it. No, they quit making it. They replaced it because it was notoriously hated. Like nobody would – you know when like they're getting passed out or whatever and like you get a certain one and everyone's like, oh, shit, no. And like you can't give it away

yeah that was the veggie omelet maybe like the ratatouille was that's that's just maybe that maybe the ratatouille replaced it dude it was i was like just it just tasted like dog shit it's i did a quick google here it says it is one of the few vegetarian mres oh see and so was the veggie omelet maybe that's part of it maybe that's eaten the yeah connected the dots right there yeah oh yeah overrated as fuck overrated yeah yeah thank you for that occasionally there's a few things in there like certain ones be like oh that's the one with the peanut butter or like the you know like a couple of them had a couple edible parts to it you know it's like yeah yeah. That one has peanut M&Ms in it. What was the one?

It was that little bar. It was like a little power bar. Yeah, like the Hua Bar or whatever. Yeah, those were great. What was Green Apple? That was a good one. Yeah. It was really tacky.

It was really hard to chew. It lasted a while. Yeah, it takes really it was like tacky it was really hard to do it lasted a while yeah it takes you a while just to get it down you need like a gallon of water just to get through it yeah yeah hydrate or die right yeah that's hydrate uh so overrated mrs yes uh good news it looks like you passed overrated underrated so awesome add Add that on your trophy case next to the picture of the 1,400-pound bench. Fuck yeah. Love it. No, that's awesome. No, that kind of is most of what we want to talk about.

I would mention I listened to quite a few of your podcast episodes leading up to this, and I thought that's great. Most of the episodes, I think you called it benching and bullshitting or whatever it was it's just you talking about your training for the week and what you got going on and you got live listeners asking questions I think it's great so anyone that wants to know more about you that'd be like just from my perspective I got to learn quite

a bit by listening to some of those so I would send people that way I listen to that on Apple podcast or whatever but I imagine people can check that out wherever they want to. What about YouTube? Do you post much on YouTube then too? Should people check that out? Yep. So I got a YouTube channel. It's just Jimmy Kolb on YouTube.

And with the benching and bullshitting, I go live on both platforms, Instagram and YouTube at the same time. For the longest time, it was Sundays at 8 p.m. Eastern standard, but I had to move it because Sundays at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard, but I had to move it because I'm training some training changes. So it's actually Mondays at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So I go live both YouTube, Instagram. I talk about the training for the week, things that are goings-ons, stuff like that. Then I get into the subject matter of just answering questions, talking about what they want to talk about. You can ask questions on YouTube,

ask questions on Instagram. And I try to get to everybody. I know the feed tends to scroll on Instagram pretty fast, but I try to stop it and answer as many questions as possible. As long as you're not being a weirdo, I'll answer your questions. But at least not the wrong kind of weirdo. We better be good. If you're going to be a weirdo, it better be good.

Yeah, correct. Correct. You know, yeah. What about I guess you're sponsored by Anderson Powerlifting, obviously, here. Do you have a code through there that people should be using if they're buying anything from there? I do. If you go to AndersonPowerlifting.com, my Instagram handle, which is the Kolb Strong, so K-O-L-B-S-T-R-O-N-G, that's a 10% discount for the customer. Again, that's not a commission thing for me. It's just a

10% discount for the buying customer. It works on everything in the store except for the F8 Sportcraft Bench Bar. That's the only thing the code will not work for. It's the most expensive item in the shop. Everything else is good to go. 10% off with Culp Strong.

Right on. Well, awesome. We really appreciate having you on. I think this is really good. Uh, this is, uh, I think people really enjoy this. So this is cool. Appreciate that. Thanks for having me on guys. I'll, I'll just leave one more plug. Uh, if anybody wants to see what I do training full-time, I have a Patreon, which is $10 a month. Again, that's just Culp Strong on Patreon. Uh, all the behind the scenes stuff that I do in the gym five days a week lead to these big benches, uh, is on Patreon. Again, you's just Colbstrong on Patreon. All the behind the scenes stuff that I do in the gym five days a week to lead to these big benches is on Patreon.

Again, you can subscribe for $10 a month. Or YouTube members is also $10 a month for the exact same content. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Good stuff. Thanks, Jimmy. Yeah.

Thanks, Jimmy. Appreciate you. All right. See you. See you guys. Yeah. see ya see you guys yeah yeah gave him the double double jimmy cool beans there didn't you yeah that was uh tanner you know that was a lot of sets and reps talk for us but i i enjoyed that sets and rep talk so a lot of times i was thinking about that even while we're talking a lot of times i don't like to talk that much substance sets and reps talk because it's the same shit it is it is like it's yeah okay you're doing some

variation of periodization and you're right like it's like yeah i kind of get for the most part what's going on but people like this are such an outlier that you want to know what the hell are they doing right it is such an outlier and rare and weird and different and uh it is it's it i mean just even from my perspective it's a little more interesting because it's not oh totally to hear that to get up to a single takes like two and a half hours that's insane you know it is crazy i mean it totally makes sense but at the same time it's insane yes right right it's it's uh i understand how you get there and why that is but just if you just think about it, it is a little bit crazy. Yeah.

Like if he said it took like less than an hour, I'd been like, that doesn't really make any sense. How is that the case? Right. Yeah. Oh, that's good stuff.

That was way more sets and rep talk than normal. Wasn't it? It was, but I was, I was liking every second of it. Now, every once in a while we pull out a little sets and rep talk just to remember, just so everyone remembers this is, this, this is still still a lifting podcast even though most of the time it's about

nothing yeah yeah okay not a big mre guy was jimmy who would have thunk it i always like anytime we can get the vomlet a little more airtime i think the page i googled i think it was that guy that ate the vomlet because it had the picture of the Ratatouille. It had it like on the black backdrop. I actually kind of want to watch. So does he have a Ratatouille video? He must. I just clicked it.

It was a blog post. Isn't it Clean Plate Club? I can't remember. Is that what it was called? I can't remember. Well, that's like one of his things, but that might not be the name of the channel. But I know he calls it the Clean Plate Club. I would have never guessed in a million years I would find a video of a guy eating an MRE be the name of the channel but i know like he's he calls it the clean plate club or like that's

like i would have never guessed in a million years you'd i would find a video of a guy eating mre entertaining but that bomblet one is that was so like i could almost it's been a while i could almost watch that again like that that had me like i would think if you're in any branch of the military that you would find that video very and i have nothing to do with the military, and I found it entertaining. So I have no shared experience there, but I would think anyone that ate MREs... Yeah, especially since I've been through it, it's just like, oh, yeah.

It's nostalgia, too. Yeah, especially like the earlier 2000s, earlier to mid-2000s there. Right. And it's like, oh, there it is. Look at it. It's even more disgusting than I thought, and he agrees. And then he's eating the whole thing.

Why is he doing that? Yes. You had something in here about texting. Yeah. I actually had to think about this for a long time. It's always one of those things where I think, did I put that in there? Did Tanner? Yeah.

And I think what I was thinking about one day is how often how often Tanner do you just text your wife and just see what what are you doing what's going on like hey well no never it's not like that like okay because here's the thing like me and my wife are in a never-ending conversation so we never you never have to be like, hey, how's it going? Or like and you live together. Right. Right. That's like there's there are no formalities of like sup.

You know, it's like like it's every it can always be direct to the point because there's like, you know, like so, yeah, never in that way. Because that's what I was thinking about like one i work from home so right if my wife's not working she's either here or running around town or she's at work yeah yeah yeah but like yeah if she's not here she's either running around town doing something or she's at work like it's like i know where she's at so we don't really need to text and be like hey where are you what's going on right now like that's not a thing and then also the way her schedule works like she's there's not that many days of the actual month that she's working so it's like a you know we're usually if we talk

to each other it's because we're we're one room apart i just walk to the next room and talk to her and i think i think what made me think of is like one day i looked and like we hadn't texted each other for like i think it was like 10 days or something you know like it seems like a very long time yeah but at the same time like well but also i mean we've talked usually if we need to say something like a lot of times we'll just have a quick phone call like hey all right you need to pick up the kids at this time i'm doing this like there's some there's some critical information that needs to be exchanged and a text you know sometimes it's okay maybe i miss it or something like that yeah uh it just made me laugh because you think like oh remember when you're dating and you're like hey what's

going on what are you up to it's like no those texts are gone no and all that is part of it though too what you said why we might text less is because my wife is one of the very short list of people that we will just call if we like you know that it's like no no just call like because because we can have a 20 second phone call and there doesn't need to be any like prelude and no like and you guys are both busy you know it's just like yeah it's just like okay i gotta go and then it's like okay you know like so yeah we can have very short calls and there doesn't have to be any concern over like minor form you know like so yeah we can have very short calls and there doesn't have to be any concern over like minor form you know like uh pleasantries on you know not that we're like rude to each other but

just like the the information just gets exchanged so much easier like this is mission critical here like that's like that's the thing like a lot of times like there's kids i mean there's always kids stuff to like it's just always so transactional yeah right right and it's like somebody's coming over to work on the whatever and we you know it's just like it's all this time stuff i'm like no i need to podcast tonight and um that being said i mean we sure we have a lot of fun and like we do stuff that's not like that but a lot of our daily communication when we're not with each other is that type of stuff yeah and that's the necessity i i totally agree and for me like where the communication gets to be just more fun is like oh okay uh we're gonna go to the bar for a little

bit or something it's like now we can actually just talk yeah right that's what we do yeah you don't have to worry about oh thank god the kids are in bed or whatever it's uh we actually have your own personal time now oh when you have a bunch of kids and stuff it's just sometimes even just like 10 minutes of no kids around is the most rejuvenating thing to be like to be like literally just like 10 15 minutes and you like a lot of times we'll be like oh yeah we like each other i forgot like it's when we also do have interests and hobbies yes like uh when other when we're not being like ripped apart in 70 directions it's like oh yeah it's fun when we get to just do stuff like uh that's why it's probably really important to do you know to make sure to make time for that stuff it's tough sometimes because

you're really tired it is and uh also the hard part of it is not sometimes you're almost always really tired. I talked about this. We, we said this on the podcast or did I just have this conversation with people in person over the lift hard, live easy classic weekend? I'm sure it's not on the podcast,

but I'm going to say it again because it still makes me really laugh when I think about it. Uh, I told someone like I'm Bruce Banner and, but I'm not always angry. It's like, it's like, that's my secret. I'm Bruce Banner, but I'm not always angry. It's like, it's like, that's my secret.

I'm like, Tanner, how are you so tired? So frequently, that's my secret. I'm always tired. It's like, sometimes I'm just shrieking you into making you believe I'm not that tired,

but even then that's how tired I am. Have I said that exact shtick on the podcast before i probably said that exact one no we've definitely talked multiple times about always being tired though but that's my secret i'm always tired even if you think i'm not even if you're like wow tanner's really uh really seems uh into it today i i guarantee you i am still tired deep down if you got me in a like laying down with the lights off for about five minutes that's where i even trick myself though is a lot of days i think god i am not tired at all today and then like if i sit you slow down let's see yes if i slow down

for a minute the the speed that my eyes can just well you've seen me before you say like how fast sleep real fast and i've done that it was actually a time not that long ago where my wife was getting mad at me because it'd be like the end of the day it's like 5 15 and the kids are home and i'm like sitting in a chair and they're like climbing on me playing with me and also like my eyes are just closed like i don't even know it they're just closed and she's like okay either you're faking it or something seriously wrong with you and i'm like i'm not doing this on purpose. I'm not trying to fall asleep here, but my eyes just closed somehow. I don't know how it's going on.

Yeah. This is, to some people, this will probably be weird. Or they'd be like, oh, I would never do that. And in my relationship with my wife, I have absolutely no problem with this. And like, I actually had her do it because it works to my benefit in many times. She has, because like with our son, we have it set up where we can see where his phone is at,

you know, and she has that on her phone where she can see where I'm at on my phone, you know, like where my physical location is at all times. And like, some people might be like, well, I don't want that. That's like an invasion of, you know, my my physical location is at all times and like some people might be like well i don't want that that's like an invasion of uh you know my privacy or whatever but like it's also like a safety thing like if there's someone that i want to know like where my phone is at all the time like she can see it you know if i'm like i don't know i don't do dangerous shit obviously

but i don't think that's that weird i mean like now especially like with how fine mine all that works like that's not that uncommon for people to have find my turn probably yeah probably not like we don't we don't have that now but i don't i wouldn't be surprised if there's a day at some point when especially with kids where you say okay yeah let's flip the switch so we can see where you're at yeah you know especially in living in a bigger town like let's see where you're at and then at the same time like, maybe you want to see where I'm at too. Like, I don't think that's that crazy of a thing for a family to have it like boyfriend and girlfriend. I think that's a little weird that you need, like, that seems like there's trust issues

right off the bat, but for like family members to want to know where you're at. I don't think that's that unusual. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what you would think is like, maybe it's trust issues in our situation. In my situation, it's the opposite. It's like, there is so little trust issues that it's like by all means you can know everything i'm doing because it most of it's not fun to begin with i promise incredibly boring

it goes between three locations on a incredibly predictable schedule. Yes, exactly. Yes. So, but I'd be curious. That seems like something that, as we were thinking about it, I'm like, you know, certain things we talk about get people going in the Discord

and they have their opinions and stuff. Like, I could picture that being someone, something that people have their take on, whether that's something that they would do or not. The location thing? Yeah. Yeah, I could see people having a, you know, whether they, take on whether that's something that they would do or not the location thing yeah yeah i could see people having a you know whether whether they because i could definitely see how some people would be like oh i would never want uh my significant other to have that or maybe not

maybe everyone would just be like no that seems normal i don't know i don't really know but to me it seems like not a big yeah i i don't think't think it is either. I mean, especially mine. I mean, my dot is 98% of the time. Actually, right here. This is where essentially I spend my waking life, right here. Why does this phone never move? Dude, there's a lot of days where my phone, when I go to, I mean, this phone is two years old. Like next month, this phone is two years old.

There's a lot of days I go to bed and my phone's out like 75%. It's like I'm in front of a computer. Everything, it's just right here. I don't even need my phone's out like 75 on a two it's like i'm in front of a computer everything right it's just right here i don't even need my phone you know oh well and i don't know maybe i don't say a lot of people i'm just maybe thinking of my own experiences i use my phone for everything yeah because i'm not at my and i would do the same thing i don't want my work computer to have all of my right going on right so like my phone is my computer realistically like why am i at my computer right now and i have a computer that I'm at work all the time,

but I don't use that. Even though I could for a lot of things, it's just a good. Yeah, I always err on the side of caution on all that stuff. That's why my batteries take really, as of late, it's really starting to take a random dumps on me all of a sudden. Like it seems like it's, it can really just, I don i don't know the batteries like they just have a lifespan on them yeah it's like these things aren't limited what the hell right right and i think i really put mine through the ringer sometimes where i like my phone will get hot sometimes with the thing i'm doing i've

noticed that once in a while editing video and stuff on it it uh yeah like actually working yeah yeah yeah i mean it gets yeah it can get hot see again it's gotta be burning just such a funny concept to me because if you told me yeah edit a video on my phone it i mean you might as well tell it like to a 60 year old because i'd be like i don't even know where to start right because that's just like me it's like nope just grab it on my computer pop it in and go like it's it would take although the computer is obviously the better tool for that it would take me it takes me much longer to do that stuff on my computer pop it in and go like it's it would take although the computer is obviously the better tool for that it would take me it takes me much longer to do that stuff on my computer because it is second nature to me on my phone it is just what you're used to like same thing although it's not the better tool it's just my but i mean really the tool is like the best tool is always

just the one that you can get the job done that's true too it's the same thing like making memes like if you told me to make a meme on my phone i'd be like okay let me go find an app and i guess i'll start there like here it's like nope photoshop's going open i got the template right here the font like it's like boom we're ready to go baby that's where i'm the opposite i'd be like how do i even get that on my computer yeah i mean i know i could do it yeah like but it's just like i don't just the same way are you talking about the app it's like i don't where do i even it's just not what i normally do conceptually i know what i'm supposed to do but as far as the steps it's going to be a little bit of trial and error that's going to go on here yeah yeah phones can't live with them can't live without them amen am i right or am i right what's the newest the 14 what is our phone i was actually

my wife got a new phone and hers is like the 14 and i was like i don't even know what our mine is the 13 14 is the newest one 15 allegedly is coming out next month so okay you're in the market for one right now don't buy one uh so when are you getting uh a new one will it be the 15 or i'll see if they only get a new one i know you i just want to know when i get i know you do what i do. If they have some sweet trade-in deal, I will do the 15 because- How long have we had this one? This September will be- I can say we because I just get mine right after you get yours. It's our phones.

September will be like two years. It was either September or October when we got them. Okay. That'll be two years. It's almost like their massonomics phones, although they're not really. It's like the company phone. Yeah. But yeah, if they have an awesome trading deal,

like you can't not take advantage of those because they're too good. So if they have that, I will take advantage of it. Otherwise, I will probably chill for a little while because like I said, mine just gets used. It's honestly, it's. Is there anything better about the 14 or going to be better about the 15? What's better? Camera's a little better.

The screen's a little clearer. Yeah. It's like. That's just what it is every time camera will be better and screen should be a little better and i mean yeah they get a strong there's no much they get a wheel's not like getting reinvented they get a better processor every year so they can do more things more efficiently which means that the battery usually gets a little better too supposedly this year the big rumor is it's gonna to get rid of lightning finally. It'll have the USB-C port on the bottom. So you can start to kind of ditch lightning stuff.

Oh, I don't like when they change that stuff. Yeah, well, lightning's run its course. It's very, very old. But yeah, that's also been a rumor for like the last three years, and it never happens. Maybe they'll go back to that fat one. The 30-pin. but that's also been a rumor for like the last three years and it never happens, but maybe they'll go back to that fat one, the 30 pin. And maybe they'll bring back those docs that you had to set it on to,

to play. Yeah. Like every college house had those. Right. Right. It's like, Oh, you'd go there and everyone had their,

their doc, the 30 pin doc. You'd put your phone on. You're saying if it's going to go to a new thing, we're going to need a new adapter for the gym. I pet iPod. Actually in that case. Yes. we're going to need a new adapter for the gym iPod. Actually, in that case, yes. Yeah, you'd need another new dongle.

Or wait, that's only, though, if someone's going to use their phone. Right, and plug it in. For the iPods, we don't need it. Yeah, everyone just Bluetooths their phone usually. So for the iPods, that won't change, obviously. That's what it is. They're still all good. I ordered some new stuff for the gym.

Did you? I mean, maybe we can talk about it more when it comes in. But I thought this stuff was kind of interesting. I did order like three or four new gym belts. Okay. I saw you write that in the Discord. Yeah. I was very curious.

What did you get there? There's a lot of people been using the gym belts. And I'm like. There's no point even having your own belt when the gym has all the sizes, all the varieties, all the materials. And that's my thing. I just want to get all... Like, now at this point, I'm just like, no, I'll just fucking get every single one of them. And then all of a sudden, it's like, what?

I mean, you can buy your own still, but... And some people like to have their own shit, and I get that. And I just use the gym belts. I mean, they technically are mine, but... But they get broken into. Like have their own shit. I get that. And I just use the gym belts. I mean, they technically are mine, but they get broken into like they are better. I like them. Like, honestly,

when I left, you know, I had a single bar. I had a lever somewhere that somehow got lost. Probably the only item to actually get lost in the gym ever. I, I still think it was an honest mistake. Someone probably grabbed the wrong one.

I would guess. I just can't because there, because there is one that's there. It's just too small. So I really do think someone probably took that one, took the wrong one and would guess i just can't because there because there is one that's there it's just too small so i really do think someone probably took that one took the wrong one and didn't realize it um but like that the the was it the 10 millimeter is that the sizes there's 10 and 13 yeah yeah the 10 millimeter like solid leather one that thing was broken in to perfection it felt so damn good that thing was amazing but then i did get the you know moving away i had to get my own belt again i got the

suede well the suede kind of already is broken in compared to the solid leather so again and that's what i bought uh like four more of the pioneer cut because i do really like the best it is the best and actually going back to the regular single prong after the pioneer cut, I'm like, ooh, I don't like how far apart these holes are. The pioneer cut is just the way to go. I couldn't imagine not going with that now. No. So what, did you just get it in a few different sizes? Yeah, I just ordered the same thing in like four sizes.

So what did you get for sizes? I'm curious there. So actually I talked to Matt about it because it's interesting. So you were talking about the black one when you said the 10 millimeter leather one at the gym. Well, when I talk about the one at the gym, the gym is the all leather one. The one I ordered was the 10. The brown one or the black one? I'm telling you the leather, the brown leather, raw leather, like solid piece of leather.

Yeah. So those were only like seven and a half, those brown ones at the gym. Really? Yeah. Those were thinner. There's a black one that they considered a 10 um that we have at the gym you say black you're still saying leather though black leather not suede yeah yeah there's a black black leather one at the gym that's not suede well but was this the

thing though was it is it the suede ones are like seven and a half but then the millimeter on each the let the suede on each end brings it to 10 i'll be honest it's a little confusing because i even had because there's this black one at the gym that i really liked and i want in the pioneer cut is that the one with pioneer embossed on the back yeah yeah pioneers embossed on the back and i'm like i want that one in every size because that was a stock belt and they don't that was advertised as a 10 millimeter leather non-suede stock belt they no longer have a 10 millimeter leather stock belt they have a 10 millimeter stock suede belt yeah which is what i got the suede is the 10 millimeter suede is way more

you could go like this way looser yes like it does compared to the leather ones it it arrives feeling very broken in right which i think is great i like that's what i was gonna say not it depends whether you think it it's different whether you think that is good or bad depending on what you like but i just really liked this one so i want that one well you really can't get that one and it is funny the suede one is the same thickness but it's just the difference in materials it's not a thickness that's the material difference of making it. But anyways, he showed me this other one I get, and it's actually advertised as a 13 millimeter,

but he said because of the difference in materials, it'll feel just like that 10 millimeter one that you have. So that's what I ordered. But it won't have Pioneer embossed on the back then, will it? It does. Oh, it does? It'll basically look just like that one that I like it's all although this one's advertised as a 13 but he says it'll feel because of the material change that they've had over that point in time it'll feel what just like what that

one i think is a 10 because 13 really is a chunky boy like when you yeah because we have some 13s that are like the brown all solid solid leather. Those are too much. I don't think that is the right belt anymore. If you're going to do a lever, I could see that. Right. Yeah, that's a lot of belt. Even the suede ones. Like Ross has a red suede that's considered a 10 millimeter.

His is so much stiffer than like that 10 millimeter so they have changed some stuff then over the years differences like there it is not you it's not like there's definitely differences i can look at the belts and be like these look like the same thickness they feel so much different like that 10 millimeter suede one that you can come that you get they can ship it in like where it's like coiled like that rolls up like i don't know a little bigger than a soup can like yeah it rolls up tight uh mount ross moore's if you rolled his up it would freaking on coil it would whap you in the face like a coiled spring if it was tight you know it like uh there's just no way so i just think it's interesting the differences like that but i ordered that what's actually

called the 13 and then i'll probably later order like three or four of the suede ones that okay so what's that okay so you went with all black on all of those yeah and what and i would get all black on the suede also get through then uh i actually got they're big like a large pioneer it's enormous yeah i shouldn't say like i'm on like but i'm not a small guy and i'm on like one of the smaller settings on the large i'm actually trying to remember now if i got a medium or a large like you would be a medium okay then i must have got a medium yeah yes because the one at the gym was a large and i was always on like the very first one i'm like if i lose any weight i can't even use this belt anymore so yes i got a medium and I'm like right in the middle of it.

And I weigh 210 pounds. That's a medium, you know? Right. So this one, I all have small through XL, which XL, you'd have to be a big dude to use the XL, honestly. I'm curious. Okay, so small, like do some of the girls in the gym, would that be the size for them?

I don't even know who will really wear that medium. Actually, medium would cover like 80% of the people that come in there and tell you the truth. But, uh, cause I can technically wear a medium, like largest, probably the goods,

a right size for me, but I can also wear most of the mediums. Um, but then I think I'll go back and get those suede ones eventually to, you know, and just at some point, just people will be like, I don't even know why I have a belt.

And that's what, that's just what I want it to be like. I think they should. I think they're kind of at that point now when those, when those ones show up. And then the other thing we got, well, maybe I should save that for next episode. I'll save the other thing. Is it a piece of equipment? Can I at least know that?

Well, not really. It's more of a, should I talk about it or should we save it? I don't know your call i guess it'll just take two minutes so i thought i thought that about the belts though so uh i got a wall control which oh like the fancy wall systems yeah it's the uh powder coated metal wall systems with uh that's what they're they're locked and powder coated metal i never actually knew what those yeah they're powder coated metal and then the hooks are so i got all red uh sheets and then the attachments i got are also red and pegboards going away is this the pegboard's going away and it's all going to the red uh and i'm going to do more of it i'm going

to cover more area with it because i think it's really going to look cool. It's called Wall Control is what the brand is. Yeah, Wall Control. I got to see these things in person. And I bought quite a bit of it. Do they actually market them to lifters or is that just... The biggest thing I think is garage. These are just like marketers, just general wall storage, aren't they? Right, yeah.

It's like probably the number one application is garage walls and that sort of thing oh oh tanner tanner you gotta back up like a second you were frozen for a long time there okay i asked you if these were marketed to lifters of the general population and i'm on their website i answered my own question yeah like i mean it's pictures of it just in people's garages yeah garages i bet it's the number one application but we'll see i i ordered like a variety pack of several different types of hooks and things too so i can see what i like there so then i can go back and order more once i find the attachments that i think are good the stuff is not cheap for as much of it as i'm buying but so are you buying okay were you buying these in

like these 32 by 32 pieces yeah usually like if it says 32 by 32 at least for the red powder coated you actually the biggest piece is like 16 by 32 so you put like a 16 by 32 next to a 16 by 32 okay the two pack is the uh good deal so you know i've got uh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven like 12 of those coming oh really Yeah. And then we'll see how that goes. Once I get those up, I'll see what more attachments I need. And then if it goes well, then I'll buy even, I've got a few other places that I'll put a few more. Just to kind of clean things.

Like if I can really get a lot of shit hung up. And they look cool too. Yeah. And that's the other thing. Like now it looks, now I can do it and it looks cool. It fits the vibe. Okay. And so you got like 10 of those things you said?

I think 12. That's actually not that bad I'm looking these like 30 bucks a piece ish or shipping get kind of crazy no it's free shipping if you order over a certain dollar amount to me though to get all that stuff organized for like 300 and some bucks like that's really not that much I basically in this first order I dropped like 400 bucks on it yeah I don't think that's that crazy and it looks really good I always thought this was like I always thought this was like a lifting specific thing I didn't realize it. Yeah. I don't think that's that crazy. And it looks really good. I always thought this was like a, I always thought this was like a lifting specific thing. I didn't realize it was just, no, I mean that all the lifters have.

Yeah. We should probably get a, uh, all. Now I think about, I should probably have them make us an affiliate, uh, link for it.

So if, cause I could do a video on, uh, do they, do they do that? Like they'll make it. Yeah. They do.

Every, every, everybody has one. Okay. Yeah. Well, God, now Everybody has one. Okay. Yeah. Oh, God. Now people can finally get strong, right? That's, I think that's what's been holding us back, honestly.

The attachments are just a mess everywhere on pegboards. Yes. Not for long. All right. Well, I'm excited to see those things. So will they go in that one spot? Will they go into multiple spots or just like that spot where they were at kind of already yeah i'm gonna put it in the two main spots where pegboard is now you know so it's like behind the cable crossover yep that'll be the big

section and then i'm gonna run it long where where the grippers are at now underneath that mirror i'm gonna run that longer so i can just put more stuff there and then i'm going to put uh behind the lat pull down where there's pegboard there i'm making a bigger section of pegboard there and then if that all goes good what i actually might do where all the belts hang up in the other side of the gym i might just make that all wall control wall that'd be pretty and then just hang shit everywhere instead of having let's say like four or five hooks there right now yeah there's just some hooks i might just make a wall control wall there and then it's like that'd be pretty cool then hang belts it configure that like in a number of different ways you know yeah be like guns

there's like two holders for each one for it to lay horizontally yes yes sweet well i'm excited to see this is playing out great for when we do the next gym tour in like seven months you know got gotta keep buying stuff for the gym so that way there's new things to show off gotta keep progressing yeah otherwise the gym tour video gets stale and i think i've only done like six gym tour videos this year so you have done a lot haven't you yeah oh and also along those lines um the youtube we had a surprise YouTube video this week. We had official, um, not massonomics, but official meat photo video, man, Nick Duraney himself. Uh, he put together his highlight reel of the lift, hardly easy classic. And man,

that thing's a banger. If you haven't seen seen that you need to go check that out we we just released that today on tuesday so this week i watched it like four times i did too only a couple minutes long it just makes it so fun might as well play this again yeah play it back i could watch it right now even though i've seen it five times never gets old um so that came out on tuesday and we still get to have our regular podcast drop this Thursday. Sorry, our regular YouTube drop this Thursday. So this week you got YouTube video on Sunday, surprise release on Tuesday, another release on Thursday. This is a crazy week for content, isn't it? Yeah, this week is going to be the breakfast one is going to come out finally.

after long-anticipated my 1,100-calorie breakfast that I've eaten every day, approximately, for the last 10 years. Approximately every day, approximately, for the last 10 years. Which adds up to a lot of breakfast. Yeah, I'm getting hungry. It's almost breakfast time for the next day. Your mouth is watering just thinking about it. All this talking about that breakfast. Got to shut this down.

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