Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 397: Stacy Burr

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Big Stacy Burr joins us for this one to talk about what it would take to get her to return to powerlifting, fast pitch softball, and riding lawn mowers… you know, just the basics. Build Fast Formula Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on your first order! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASS for a free pair of AWEsome wraps! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates! Swiss Link Use code MASS to save 15%! Texas Power Bars Get the Barbell that changed the game!

Thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! side everything massonomics welcome everyone we've got episode 397 of the massonomics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing recorded from right here in good old south dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy right here in good old South Dakota. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. This is 397.

It's a banger of an episode. They only get better and better and better as we crescendo to episode 400 coming soon. Exponentially better, you could say. Exponentially better. Each episode gets exponentially better than the last. So, you know, two to the power of 397 is probably. It's like a million. Yeah, it's like a million, one million, one million.

That's at least, right? Roughly in there, yes. Yeah, roughly a million. This episode, this is also a sack segment here, right? Ad read slash sack segment. Two in one segment alert, two in one segment alert, two in one segment alert. Coming out of the gate firing. Yeah. This episode is brought to you speaking to South Dakota by our good friends over at build fast formula and Tommy, they sent us,

you haven't seen this yet. So this will be new. They sent us some of their, some of their new goods. Uh, first one that i've got here is their full blitz the fully loaded pre-workout formula so check that out i think that this one all right there's this one almost like a combination of their um vaso blitz and their other where it's got the vaso blitz ingredients plus plus the other pre-workout ingredients. Yeah. So check out Full Blitz. Haven't tried it yet.

Untapped, unopened. What flavor? Oh, great question. I thought I saw something online in regards to that. I don't want to spoil it, though. This is Power Up Peach. Yeah, okay. Power Up Peach.

That's intriguing. I like the sounds of that flavor and then we've got a couple other things here one is glyco hack which i do not know that much about to be honest because the reason i don't know that much about it because it wasn't until right now i thought these two bottles were both the same oh they i thought they were both this other product that i'm going to tell you about and just that now I realized one is GlycoHack. It says never carb load without it, advanced glucose delivery. I do not know that much about it, so I'm not going to sales pitch you on GlycoHack. What I'm more interested in, at least as of today, because I understand it better, is DrinkHack that we've got right here. Drink hack, never drink without it. I'm not going to attempt to spell this word,

but it supports the elimination of the most harmful byproduct of alcohol consumption. And what you do is you take one capsule within an hour before your first drink, and then you take another capsule. Isn't the most harmful byproduct of alcohol consumption just regret and despair? Yeah, I don't know what they're saying. They're saying it's this chemical, I think, but I've had some other pretty harmful byproducts

that have come from that, to be fair. Well, anything that helps. Anything helps there, right? Yeah, yes. And then you take one capsule within an hour after your last drink. So what I was thinking about this is I'll leave this untapped, and then I'll bring this to the Crew Falls to Separate to Remember and pass it around.

The whole crew can give Drink Hack a try together, and we can all report back. Are those capsules? Is that what they are? Yeah, they're capsules. I think there's, I don't know, why do I think there's 60 in here? and we can all report back. Are those capsules? Is that what they are? Yeah, they're capsules. I think there's, I don't know, why do I think there's 60 in here?

Everyone will say, man, all those guys are putting capsules in each other's drinks. What's going on over there? Vic, don't worry about it. You don't worry about that. So we'll test out Drink Hack for anyone that wants to. I'll bring it, if I can remember, I'll bring it with to the Crew Falls December to Remember event coming December 9th. Right around the corner.

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That is awesome. Awesome. Those have started to ship out, seeing people get them, get that. I think today is the first day of deliveries. So if you have ordered and not gotten yours yet, I bet you will be seeing them very soon.

Very, very soon. Kind of a couple of good, uh, ads to kick off, uh, kick off this episode. I always like it when,

when ads are timely and relevant right we had a lot of good stuff speaking of uh timely and relevant are we going to do our mr olympia recap for this year okay um you know what this is the first time i've thought that we're doing this segment so that's actually perfect for us. I did not prepare one bit. I was just kind of Googled the results right now. First of all, before looking, do you have any idea who won? I did see this, and I do not remember because it was a name I wasn't super familiar with. I'm trying to find it. I've got it right here.

Okay, yeah. Derek Lunsford. I don't know if I've actually ever even heard of him to be honest i feel like i've heard the name uh second place was hattie chupan and i've heard of him yeah um yeah so we're actually we're in it right now we're doing the thing so we're just living the test we're're doing the thing. And I guess for anyone that's new to the show, a lot of people tune in each year to get our Mr. Olympia recap. It has been a very fun recurring segment. Yes. I think every year for the last many years,

we have recapped the Olympia. It's the one bit of bodybuilding we talk every year. It's kind of a cornerstone piece of our show here. Yeah. So anyone else of note brandon curry i know that name he got fourth let's see regan grimes who is that i know that name he got ninth um that is it some people got dn. One person did not finish. Really? How do you do that? I didn't know that was a thing in bodybuilding.

I did not know. So the 212 winner was Keone Pearson. Never heard of him. I'm scanning the list to see if I've ever heard of anyone. I believe. Was it Mr. Bumstead? Yeah, that's the thing. Chris Bumstead won the classic physique

which that's like his anytime fourth or fifth year in a row something doing that yeah yeah i think that's maybe like five uh i'm looking to see if anything else stands out mrs miss olympia andrea shaw uh b Brian's wife of course yes Brian's wife yes Derek Lunsford walked away with a cool 400k for his that's what I was looking for how much he won so $400,000

second place 150 third place 100k fourth 40,000 fifth 35,000 does it say what Bumstead gets for winning Classic Physique? That's a good question. Let's see right here. I got another one.

And the other one was actually the exact same thing. Okay. The most interesting part about the Olympia to me is the prize money that these people get. It's still shocking that there's that much money to be had. So the winner got 400 000 but this is it's let's be real we know this is you know we're bodybuilding guys this is like the super bowl of bodybuilding so i guess right right they have all the money to go

at this one i'm curious what the what are the biggest payouts in bodybuilding this the arnold and there's probably one other something somewhere isn isn't there? Yeah, I would think that those are the two biggest ones. LA Fit Expo or something? I don't know. Maybe. But isn't that coming up pretty soon here? So maybe that's not a big payout if it's right after the Olympia. Right.

But if they gave out over half a million just to, like, the first couple winners of the one class, they must have, like like several million in prize money that goes out for this wouldn't there be because i just scrolled through and there's like 30 different things and each one has a list of you know yeah you would think it said okay this sportingnews.com says says uh where'd it go? Too many. Okay.

Sporting news.com. Men's classic physique, Olympia, Chris Bumstead prize money, 50 grand. It says, Oh, wow. So that's really shaved off from all these other ones.

Mr. Olympia is 400. All these other ones, two 12 Miss Olympia, men's physique, all of those first places, 50 grand. Wow. what a discrepancy well they call it mr olympia they call it mr olympia not mr men's physique olympia

yeah that's true that's true that's true eight times more to win uh yeah and also the payouts so all those other ones the payouts go 50 000 20 000 10 6 4 they drop down in a hurry yeah okay all right well it's still overall it's a lot of money because uh for any strongman show to give away 50 000 to the winner is a huge strongman doesn't uh doesn't what's the arnold giveaway don't they give away 50 60 grand to the winner yeah it's like that much and the rogue gave had a big payday like it was like 60 70 but um but that's what i'm saying like they're smaller ones here that's still like a good strongman yeah show payout you know that's a 400 000 is a lot though that's almost enough to like make you

you know make you think ah maybe all the drugs and stuff are worth it maybe i should put myself through this another year well they couldn't start i like realistically they could start to justify it like that and then i suppose you know with winning the actual olympia title comes a lot of other money mate or some other money too oh it's got so at that point so if it's a half million dollar locked payday that's uh you know that's enough to make people consider what what it takes to consider shortening your life and right right right yeah and then although there's you know all of them that are not winning that much money. But they're so close.

They're right there. So is that it on our Olympia coverage? I think so. That was pretty extensive, wasn't it? It wasn't in Vegas, right? Was it in Florida this year? Oh, I think you're right. I forgot about that part of it.

Yeah. I believe, was Mike telling us that? Was there a rhino cage thing with, like, a bunch of people lifting? Wasn't that a thing last year? Oh, was that a, okay, is that at the Olympia Mike telling us that? Was there a rhino cage thing with like a bunch of people lifting? I wasn't that a thing last year. Oh, was that okay? Is that at the Olympia? They're doing that.

Or is that at the LA FedEx? Well, I can never keep straight. What, when they do that, I think that was at the Olympia last year. Okay. He's from Vegas.

So it was, yeah, that makes sense. I think that it was in Vegas last year, but I didn't see anything about anyone doing anything. I didn't either. The cage often imitated, never duplicated, right?

That's true. Mr. Olympia, stay tuned next year to get up more up to the... Only 360-some days until we do our next recap. Yeah. I don't know nicknames for any of those guys. My favorite part about bodybuilding is the nicknames. That is actually a great thing. Let's do... What's the guy that that won does he have a good nickname i judge a

bodybuilder most on their nickname rather than any other criteria uh okay so hattie chupan is the persian wolf yeah that's pretty good not the snappiest nickname but it does it does sound tough yeah uh and then who do we have? Derek what? What was? Lunsford or something like that. Derek Lunsford. He's got to have a nickname.

Let's see here. I don't think you'd be Mr. Olympia and not have a. I know. The best bodybuilding nicknames are like the and then a one syllable word. Yes. The. Gift. The.

Shadow. The. Blade. Blade. Yes. Yeah. yes gift the shadow the blade yes yeah who's the gift is that phil heath is the gift okay and dexter jackson is because those are kind of my few favorites yeah i don't see a nickname for him he's got to have

one but i i even googledled Derek Lunsford nickname, and I'm not finding anything. Okay. Well, I think he just earned himself $400,000 and a good bodybuilder nickname. Does anything stick out to you when you see him, like a nickname that would make sense for him? The dude.

The dude. Derek the Dude Lunsford. He looks pretty big. I'll give him that. He's a big dude. Yeah. Big Derek. They don't call him Big Derek Lunsford for no reason.

I guess that's his nickname. Derek the Big. Yeah. for no reason i guess that's his nickname yeah speaking of what's uh back in the segments did you see have you ever seen the zaheers kind of back into lifting i have noticed that he has had some some clips popping up here and there yeah he did like an 805 deadlift double that I just saw from him here. Some guys are just strong, aren't they? Guess how many followers Zaheer has on Instagram. Okay, he's got to have a lot because he got into Instagram.

He was early lifting Instagram on top of being one of the strongest guys in the world at the time. So, I don't know. Does he have a half million? It says one million. Really? Wow. could that be right i thought maybe i was i was shooting high with half million but that's a million that's impressive yeah that's what it says one million because i just noticed it when i was looking it up today he's just million but he was in at a different era you know he was in there at what 2013 ish posting videos it's yeah 24 to whenever instagram first started letting you post videos

and do stuff like that he was the guy if she if she does if she does not remember zaheer then she is too young for you bro too long too young uh i had i don't know what he's doing but it's good to see yeah nice to know he's still moving weight i had a fun little follow-up to what was it two or three weeks ago we we were giving our very in-depth critical analysis of nike getting into the strike training game yes actually it was pretty fresh when they were yes very fresh news maybe less than 24 hours old a couple of things about that now that now i think back on it um we had made the comment that plates are equipment that's made in america you pay a premium for and that that's uh you know something that people look for which i stand by you do pay premium for it people do look for it but we got a lot of comments of, well, what about made in Europe?

What about made in Canada? Yes, just because made in America is a premium doesn't mean the other ones can't be. The other ones are still Canada, Europe, wherever it's at. People, yes, people still do like that. Really the point I was trying to get across was that made in China when it comes to equipment typically is thought of as the lowest tier

in that product line yeah like a leeko be you know sweden made isn't uh not or or er racks or wherever your favorite company is that's not in china yeah they probably make really good stuff and and they you probably do pay a premium for it too over stuff that's made in china that was kind of the point we're trying to make there but uh one thing that was very interesting here so you posted a clip of us talking about our what was it a real you posted a reel of us just yeah making some comments about almost what we just said just hey nike's getting into this never underestimate them they have unlimited money you know the one thing to watch though is they don't make their equipment's

clearly not made in America. It's probably made in China because they're not leading with that in any way. And that's kind of how Nike is. So what is funny about this is Nike is a company based out of Portland, Oregon. And I have a good friend that lives in Portland that's in the design world.

And he also have lots of friends that are in the design world in Portland. And that means some of them work for Nike. And so he messaged me and said, Hey, one of my good friends is launching, is helping launch the line for this right now. Yeah. Yeah.

He's like, they're running the whole marketing campaign. And then I got, I actually want to pull it up. He goes, I sent it to my friend right now. Actually, I sent him this clip.

I was talking about it. And I got, I don't want to, I want to pull it up. He goes, I sent it to my friend right now. Actually, I sent him this clip. I was talking about it. And I don't want to get the text right here. You don't want to bastardize the... Yeah. So it was sent their friend the clip of us. It says, my buddy Tommy is doing marketing for you, LOL. My friend also said, his friend is opposed to Nike, however. I'm not sure we made a strong stance there and then so then the friend goes the one that works at Nike haha yeah just

watch this and it wasn't great for us like he's saying he didn't let yeah yeah our shit is awesome our shit is awesome so people can talk shit all they want until they try it I think Nike stuff in a lot of areas could probably say that that's true their stuff is awesome but i still would uh i would argue that no if you're like if you're deep into strength the strength world like no their stuff is you'd be hard pressed to fight you might you definitely find people that say oh it's good enough and if the price is right and i'm sure I'm sure it's not shitty. No, they're a huge company.

So they have quality control, hopefully in check. And they, and they know to a certain extent what they're doing, but, but as far as like power lifters, people like that, they're not going to be like, ah, this stuff is awesome. They're going to be like, oh, that bar's fine, but it's not even made for what we do. And like, you know, like general fitness, I'm sure it's not even made for what we do and like you know like general fitness i'm sure it's more than good enough which actually right pretty much anything is more than good enough but yeah once you start getting into the higher levels bigger weights that's when you start pushing it so it's and it's also not what they care about like right that's

not what that's not what they're going after but i did think it was funny that we had that little piece and we did have an insider at nike at Nike offer some critique as to our approach on it. Do you have a can over there? Oh, yeah. Oh, Waterloo, huh? Yeah, I've got a Waterloo Black Cherry. I'm still working through my Pamplemousses over here. Well, that's never a problem.

That's never a bad thing. No, it's not. It pops. Oh, that is tasty. Waterloo Cherry's got it going on. Yeah, that is a tasty sparkling water. It's been a while since I had one, but I do have fond memories

of that. Damn. I could drink that can real good i could drink the shit out of that can and i will don't mind if i do uh tanner i'm gonna say a saying i want you to finish this for me okay all right are you ready i ready. Nip it in the. Butt. Bud. What is it? What is it?

Nip it in the bud. I guess I say with a D maybe is what I think. Is that what it is? Nip it in the bud. Is that what it is? I don't know what it is. I actually don't even. If I would say that, I would probably say it unclearly so that it can't be defined of what I'm saying.

I would question it. Whatever I would say in that scenario, I would question if I'm pronouncing it or if I'm not pronouncing it, if I'm using. I would say, I think people say nip it in the butt, but I guess I think it's bud. I think it's bud, but I have zero confidence in that. I think it's bud. This is one of those things that you find out you've been saying it wrong your whole life. I say nip it in the butt.

Nip it in the butt is not the saying. The saying is nip it in the bud. Was not aware of this at all. And I thought I was just a big idiot and didn't need to bring it up. And then I asked my wife and I said, did the same thing. Finish the saying. And she goes, but. And I go, no, it's bud.

She goes, no no you're wrong and then i looked it up and it's a commonly misunderstood phrase but yeah people say but i feel like i've heard it that way so many times and i have to give credit to uh nathan green on instagram he dm'd me and he said did you say nip it in the butt and i said haha i might have and he corrected me it's nipping in the bud had no idea that is what that saying was what does that mean like i believe the saying is or where it comes from is yeah gardening you know if you want something to stop you nip the bud to make it stop right which makes sense but also i don't know nip it in the butt seems better to me yeah so okay so you weren't totally clear on it either.

That makes me feel slightly better. Yeah, I wasn't clear on it either. I guess what I thought is it is bud, but I would say that and be like, I have no confidence that I used that correctly. So it's not just me. No, I definitely knew there was like a non-clarity between those two

but i would i certainly have said it before apparently i said it in the last episode so yeah definitely have nipped it in the bud before i guess we nipped that we finally nipped that one in the bud. Didn't we? We certainly did. That's been nipped. I will probably not forget that now after just this brief conversation that, uh, that's what the, that that's supposed to be. Yep.

I got that. I'll probably say it wrong, but I'll think about it the correct way for the rest of my life now. Yeah. Uh, one other thing on Nike, I have been wearing my Nike shoes. Oh yeah.

I actually wanted one in update on noon ball and then been wearing my Nike shoes. Oh yeah. I actually wanted one, an update on noon ball. And then also to know how the shoes are. The shoes are good. Although I did play noon ball twice this week. And one of the times I played way too long. So I did get blisters. Yeah.

Uh, but that would have probably happened with any pair of shoes for as long as I played that day, to be fair. You played for six straight hours that day, right? No, it was like almost two, though. Oh, really? That is a really long time. It was probably an hour and a half. But for me, that is a long time to play.

So do you feel like you're getting more comfortable on the court like you can actually survive that long now um i not conditioning wise i really still no no i'm not i'm getting more comfortable since i'm getting better like in knocking some rust off like i'm doing like actually it's funny you do something and you actually get a little bit better at it. But as far as conditioning, are you getting in better shape or is it you're just smarter about how to expend your energy? Well, that's what I was actually thinking when you said that. I'm not getting in better shape, I don't think.

It'd be kind of weird if cardiovascular, you got better in like a week or two, right? Right, no. So I don't think that that's better at all. It's those newbie gains. You're just smarter with how to do it. Your technique's getting better. Yes, I'm smarter about when to conserve the energy a little bit. So, yeah, I have been.

It's also another great thing is, you know, you go to the gym, like a gym like Masonomics Gym, it's hard to be the big guy because everyone there is the big strong guy when i uh go play noon ball basketball everyone makes comments about how big i am yeah i'm like oh i'm a big guy my reputation precedes me yes i uh i go to the gym i'm like one of 30 guys that all look exactly like this you know and when i go to the basketball court oh it was fun someone did the classic thing of asking me how much i bench even i'm like god i haven't been somewhere and someone like asked me how much i bench in a while it's been so long thank you sit down how much time you got and then uh you know what his follow-up question i got to give

him props though his initial question how much you bench his follow-up question, I got to give him props, though. His initial question, how much you bench. His follow-up question. Okay, how did you answer it? Did you say all-time number? All-time. Yeah. I am always going all-time. For someone that I know doesn't lift, I'm just saying all-time.

This is actually an interesting discussion, what people do do here. Because I have a way of answering this, too. So I'm curious how you. what what people do do because that's i because i have a way of answering this too so i'm curious how you if if a power lifter is that like someone i run into someone and there are a power lifter i would probably answer it this is what i would honestly say i'd say well the best i ever did in the gym was 475 the best i did uh in competition is like 455 and the way things are going i can't do any of those right now i'd be lucky to i might be able to do 400 for a pause rep. You know, like that's, that was the, that'd be the answer. I would get someone that I know gets it. If someone it's happened very rarely. It's only

happened a few times since I've lived here, but a couple people have asked me that when they see me squatting or something like, Oh, how much do you squat, man? And I say, I say, well, my best ever is this. and then i usually followed up with and i'm not in that ballpark right now that's right right i so i do say that a lot but like someone like this that there's where i probably could say 300 400 500 or 600 and it doesn't even make a difference i just say my best ever and leave it at that um not in an attempt to sound cool but but just to simplify it as much as anything. Like, I don't want to say these five sentences.

They don't care about that even. You know, they don't care. But his follow-up question was, well, how much do you squat? And I was like, oh, yeah. That's not the standard follow-up question. Yeah, and then I hit him with my best, and then I did say, but it is like my primary hot, you know, I'm not, like I did then say,

but it is because he was kind of like, whoa, you know, like he knew enough to know that it was like larger than average numbers or whatever, and I'm like, but that is kind of what I do. This didn't happen on accident. Right, right. But it's real good to get recognized. I'm sick of being like a very average fish.

Just one of the guys. I finally go somewhere where I can actually be less big and get recognized for being bigger than when I was bigger. Yes. If that makes sense. That's a win. Yeah, that's a win all day. Because a bunch of the basketball players are was bigger. Yes. If that makes sense. That's a win. Yeah. That's a win.

Cause a bunch of the basketball players are really skinny. Yeah. So it's great to get around them. And then, and then everyone thinks I'm really strong too. Like we play and stuff and like, I don't even want to go up against him. I'm sick of this guy boxing me out and like pushing me and stuff like that.

And, uh, or if it was like, if it was like a group of the guys from the gym all playing,'d be like ah this sucks everyone's yes everyone everyone sucks at basketball and it's way too physical what's going on here yeah that's my update there the shoes good though good i'm just slowly breaking them in although here's like here's an interesting uh flip way to work up look at it i go to the basketball court and people comment uh tell me that i'm look at that i'm big or something like that and i'm like oh yeah that's great

but nobody comments on my shoes there oh yeah nobody comments on my new shoes but if i wore those to the gym nobody would tell me I look big. But everyone would be like, hey, what are those? Yeah, you got to turn in some heads there. Yeah. First of all, I'd say, Tanner, you don't have your normal shoes on. What's going on right now? Yeah, so you look funny.

So when I play pickup ball, nobody. I was like, oh, maybe someone will ask me about my new shoes today. Yeah, I thought at least you'd get a call-out for having some throwback shoes on. Well, a lot of people are wearing Jordans and stuff like that. But that's the go-to, though. That's the normal one. You went, I guess, a step deeper. You had a slightly deeper cut than everyone else.

Oh, I don't think I said this on the podcast, which did give me a laugh out loud as um stop me if I told said this last week I think it happened in between last week and this week though but I had uh Jack had Jack plays basketball and gets basketball shoes and stuff like that so he likes basketball shoes and I told him I was getting a pair and he was excited about that and he likes them he thinks they're cool but But when I was gone, then he told Mary, my wife, he said, you know, sometimes I think dad has a hard time getting out of the 90s. And I was like, that is a very, very true. That is very funny.

But also at the same time, time objectively basketball shoes kind of suck now from a style standpoint that that's for sure it's pretty objective how no no all the same to me no well no one bought look at look at the look at today who what basketball what basketball shoes do people buy from a style standpoint they buy shoes from the 90s and early 2000s right no one buys modern day basketball shoes to wear because you know yeah because they're made of just like i mean they all look like some futuristic spaceship thing they buy them to play basketball yeah they buy into the basketball no one yeah it's so rare for a basketball shoes nowadays to be something of a style piece that's just not a thing right right yeah that's true also it's true i do have a really hard time

getting out of the 90s sometimes so that is also a fair very i said yeah that's true. Also, it's true, I do have a really hard time getting out of the 90s sometimes. So that is also a fair, very, I said, yeah, that's actually really, really a good observation. The dream of the 90s is alive in Tanner's head. Yes, yes. Should we do supporting our supporting members? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, this week, this is a segment we do each week,

a relatively new segment of the podcast. It's where we have these Massonomics supporting members. They choose to support us, our podcast, everything we do by logging onto our site, going to massonomics.com slash join. That's where they sign up. You can sign up there too. It's several different levels of contribution that you can make there, and we'd appreciate any of them.

They get several things in return like discount code, getting access to our Discord. That's the only way you get in our Discord. They're going to be getting early access to signing up for our 2024 Lift Hard Live Easy powerlifting meet. A whole bunch of stuff and then including possibly getting featured on supporting our supporting members like this week's crew. A bunch of people doing the Garage Gym competition. Yeah, I've seen that. These are the names.

I didn't write down numbers. I just wrote down names on this, and I probably missed a bunch. But the following, at least, well done on Garage Gym competition submissions. David, one of Jake, Kevin, John, Keith, Joey, Big Pizza, Steve, Mabel, Deminger, Paul, Scantz, and Jake. That's who I caught on that. That's good stuff. That's a lot. Several others, I'm sure.

Big Moto, he won the Barefoot Shoes giveaway. I think he got like $150 gift card. Nice. Hope he bought a pair of Ersonomic shoes with that. Big Andrew Montoya did his first Olympic lifting competition. I lost his numbers on that, but I know his clean and jerk was over 400 pounds.

And his snatch was like close to 300. So he's got a great snatch that Montoya does. And then Big Tommy S, one of the members of the Minnesota Department of Lifter Safety also competed at the Olympia does and then big tommy s one of the members of the minnesota department of lifter safety also competed at the olympia in a powerlifting us apl powerlifting meet he had a city win four hundred thousand dollars i think okay it might have just been 50 oh i don't know well either

way it's okay he did have a 617 pound squat nice which is very big is very big. 380 bench and a 677 deadlift for a 1674 total. That's why the spotters and loaders at Mass Amics are neat are so good. They're strong as shit. They're in good hands. And then this week, last but not least on Unpaid and Underrated was Big Jake. So check him out. There's a good episode on Unpaid and Underrated. Big Jake. So check him out. There's a good episode on unpaid and underrated. Tanner, our guest has arrived.

Should we get her on or kick people off? Yeah, I'm booting people right now. Okay. So do I read an ad while you do that? Oh, you could if you want to make it a quick one. Yeah, we'll do a quick little ad. I'm actually going to hit you with something I haven't done for a little while here. This is The Strength Company.

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All right, we ready for our guest? Let's do it. Yeah. So you are Big Stacy, you know, right? Everyone here is big, so you're Big Stacy. Clearly, yep. Big Stacy's in the house, so I'm happy to be here. Awesome.

We're excited to get you on it's probably been uh it's been a long time coming that we get you on here and uh we did a little thing the other day asking who we should get on and several people said you and I we said yeah that's a really good idea we should and uh we are able to make it happen really really quick so that's cool yeah you said you guys said today and I was like, honestly, the longer I put it, you know what I'm saying? Like I was like, yeah, let's do it. Like, let's go ahead and do it while it's fresh.

Yeah. Cool. I was trying to think like the first time we crossed paths with you or met you anywhere, I think it was at the Arnold at the Live Large booth. And I don't know what year it would be, Tommy. I don't know if you got a guess, but I would say like 2017 maybe. But in there, I don't, what was the first guess but I would say like 2017 maybe but in there I don't what was the first year we went do you remember Tanner 16 or 17 what what year it was

one was like the first yeah when when have you gone what was the first years you you were going there when were you I think it was I mean it was either I'm pretty sure it was 17 I think you were right so I it was either 16 or 17 I'm pretty sure it was 17 and that's the first time I remember meeting you guys too so I think that was my first year at the Arnold so okay full experience right yeah so that was six years ago which is kind of wild to think about that that is a while I'm so old now like I I'm like a time change and stuff and I actually feel it I'm like wait yeah we're old now so yes yeah absolutely oh I totally tell a difference on the time changes all that stuff screws me up I'm like, wait, yeah, we're old now. So yes. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I totally tell a difference on the time changes.

All that stuff screws me up. Yeah. There's pros and cons to getting old for sure. It's better than the other alternative, I guess. Right. That's true. Very good point. So 2017, I don't think you lifted in the cage that year, but you eventually lifted in the cage at the Arnold.

Yeah. Or maybe it was that year. I don't know. You know better than me. But do I, though? I ended up, I competed at the Arnold at the XPC in 2019, and I did the cage the following day right after I competed. So that was 2019. following day right after i competed so that was 2019 so you competed in the you were competed and then lifted in the cage and that was the last year that we've had the cage the animal cage at the

arnold then so you kind of uh shut it down yeah you kind of shut it down i mean you know they put me in there and they said okay i'm hot enough that's good that's good for now there's nothing left there's nothing left for us to do here any better than this we're just gonna we're canceling this for like the next five years but honestly i'm not even gonna lie that was like one of my dreams right it was to lift an animal cage i haven't even i've never talked about this before but like i knew i was competing at the xpc and then i they uh you know sent me a message to about lifting the cage and i was like oh my god this is so stupid right like why would i do a full meet and then like get in the cage but

i was like why not right i was like unless i die unless i die or something i was like absolutely because that was something i always wanted to do so for that to be like the last year they did it unless like i've heard that there might be some talk of it coming back um but you know no i i think that's official now it is back this year yeah it is uh it will be back for the first time this year so that'll be it'll be i'm excited to see we actually talked about it it's weird you know it's been like five years and talking about like who might be in there and lifting and stuff and five years isn't a super long long time, but like to say in the case of power lifting, there's not that many lifters that in 2017,

18, 19, you would have had featured in there that maybe you would still have featured in there in 2023. You know, there's not that many that are like at that level over that long a period of time. I mean,

you think about it like five years, it's like a period of time i mean you think about it like five years it's like a whole turnaround time right like i mean five years is almost like now a career in powerlifting right i mean yeah do you mean do you remember do you remember some of the names that were in there what the year you did it um i think uh oh my god i know cc holcomb was in there um was in there with me stephy was in there in there. I mean, so like none of these, none of us really are like, you know, competing anymore. So it's like a whole new face. I think Hunter, I think got in the cage maybe the year or two after. And like, so I mean like Hunter and Brianna, Brianna might've lifted that.

Like she didn't lift that year, but she probably lifted the last year or so. But I mean, it's a whole new cycle now. I mean, just like, I don't know how, like, I was just at the American Pro a couple weeks ago. It feels like yesterday. I still have like the meat hangover from all the stimulation and whatnot. But like, I was doing a little bit of commentating up in the box. And just like, there were like three, four, five, like there were over, like, there were a handful of women that were deadlifting over 600 pounds. Like to see where the sport is now.

And I'm not even trying to make this like a whole, you know, like empowerment kind of situation. Right. But just like to see where the sport is now comparatively and the growth on both sides. I mean, truly, it's growing so fast that like in the next probably two or three years, it might be a whole complete different base of stuff too. Right. Because I mean, you're seeing people come out of like, you know, you've never even heard before that are dead lifting. I mean, like just like world records. I mean, like there was a couple of guys, like I'd never even heard of their name before. Never seen them like that. Maybe this was her second or third meet. And it's like, people are strong now. It's crazy. Well, Tommy and we talked about it, especially like you brought it up the, on the women's side and on the, especially like in the deadlift,

like probably all the lifts, but it just really stuck out to us on the deadlift. The numbers seem to just be climbing so fast. Like the, the, the records are getting broken so fast and so quickly it seems like it won't be long i mean i know it's like it is easy to say and harder to do but it's like it doesn't seem like it'll be that long and there'll be women dead lifting 700 pounds in a oh

i absolutely believe it yeah i mean i i absolutely believe it and i i was when i was commentating for a couple of flights the benches as well as squat. You know, the spots outside of Hunter Henderson, Hunter Henderson can squat. I mean, like the whole world, honestly, like I've never seen someone squat that much. But they were like, I mean, there were several like mid 300 benches. And like I remember whenever whenever I was competing, like my bench was the baddest of everyone. Right. It was like, you know, everyone else. And then like my bench and like, my best bench was like three 20 ish. But that was like,

there was one girl that opened with like three 30 and I was like, Oh shit. My bench ain't crap. Right. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's super humbling, but it's like crazy to see. And just like at this rate, you'll have, you know, women deadlifting 700 pounds. You'll have women bench pressing 400 pounds. And it's like, wait a minute. Like, this is crazy. And I mean, it takes a lot to impress me because I've been around for a while. Right.

You know, I've seen a lot, but it's like, I'm impressed. Right. So like when you go to the american pro you're around all of it you're seeing these big these big lifts going on does that ever make you think like hmm do i want to get back in there i mean do you ever get that feeling uh i mean i've been asked multiple times usually it's like multiple times a day at these big meets like oh when are you coming back and i'm like the real answer is like if there was enough money i would you know like and they're like oh i want you real answer is like if there was enough money i would you know

like and they're like oh i want you and it's like if there was enough money i would right like i remember i mean like i remember like i i have that dog in me still you know like i absolutely i see this and i'm like dang i'm not crap oh okay i like that because like i like the feeling of being the underdog i've always like like lived that, right? Once you make it to the top of the mountain, it's like, okay, like it's everybody else and me. It doesn't seem like quite as like you don't have that chip on your shoulder, right?

But it's like I get that feeling that I'm like, man, hmm, you know, I want to and I think about it. But I also think about like how bad my body hurt. And I think about just like the, you know, different commitments and stuff and like how I actually, when I was competing and I was competing at that level, I don't like genetically, I'm not the like most gifted person in the world. I just tried really hard. I tried really hard before a lot of people really considered powerlifting a

sport. Right. I was like putting everything in this to like be the best I could be, but it's like comparative so i have to give like my 110 so like i wasn't really making money i didn't really have like a thriving business or you know i wasn't really doing much outside of power lifting right so like if there was enough money to make it worth it i could can be convinced. But other than that, truly, just like I love coaching. I love coaching. I love like getting, you know, like this will be past my bedtime

if we were talking about if I was competing. I'd be like, sorry, guys, I can't. That's past my bedtime. Got to recover. Got to squat tomorrow, you know? So it's like the way that my life is set up now, it's not worth it to me. But like I definitely feel it.

And I mean, I love to train but uh i don't love being in pain and like to be able to be like oh i'm just gonna not deadlift maybe i'll do something different this week because why do i need to chase these arbitrary i don't yeah so you know that feels pretty good um honestly yeah well i mean you're doing great that you can at least you know that of yourself there's tons of people that go years and they can't ever admit that or ever actually figure that out. So you're, you're, you're winning that battle for sure. Thank you. I mean, it like to be able to like, you know, a lot of people thought, Oh yeah, you're going to come back here and come back. You're not really like retiring or whatever. Right. And I was like, I did what I wanted to do.

I did what I set out to do and I'm okay with that right I think a lot of people in powerlifting or in like just other sports and stuff just you don't know when to quit right and the thing about powerlifting is like you're not usually going to quit powerlifting it kind of quits you like your body kind of quits you right like there comes a time where maybe say that's your last squat because you can't squat anymore because you've got a major injury or something like that. So to be able to walk away, did what I want to do healthy. And now, I mean, I've always just loved to train. But like it kind of is a little bit boring if we're really going to be honest about it, like squatting, benching, deadlifting and some shade form in that fashion repeatedly. shade form in that fashion repeatedly. Like I love to train and like, I love some, you know,

having some variance. Like I did a whole like stint in bodybuilding last year. And honestly, it was kind of fun outside of the, you know, severe dieting part. But like, I got to train and train hard in a different kind of way and fashion. And just, I love that. So it's like, I don't know, I feel like I made a pretty, it was tough, right? It's tough to walk away from something that you're like, at that point in time, you're just a dramatic amount better than the people that are around you. Right. Like, but to be able to walk away healthy and to be able to do what I do now, Hey, I think I made the right call. And I mean, like, I'd say that was pretty challenging from an ego standpoint, but like definitely better for it. Yeah.

And, uh, something I don't want anyone that's listening, maybe that wasn't following you as much in like 2017, 18, 19 to not understand this. Cause we talked about how the sports advanced and progressed and stuff like that. But your number still like, uh, your three 20 bench, your five bench your five whatever squat your total like over 1400 pound total has anyone to this day has anyone beaten your total in your weight class like um uh i don't think so i'm not i'm not i'm not 100 sure with you to tell you the truth like i know that i know someone broke my all-time squat record. I know that for sure. Okay.

But I think I could be wrong now. I think that total still stands. Right. Someone definitely took the all-time sleeve record at 148, but I think the total is still mine, I think. Yeah. But also, I don't hyper-fixate on it. You know what I'm saying?

So I could be totally wrong. And if I am, to whoever you got it, cause like you deserve it. But yeah. So that's my, that's my point though, is that still even like how much we're, I don't want to,

it's not like, Oh yeah, they really like, you know, we're talking about Don and left you behind. That's right. We're talking about some people that are competing in one, two,

three weight classes above what you were competing into with some of those numbers numbers you know so i mean if you open open powerlifting i think my you open the front screen it's my all my dots or wilks or whatever has me like number seven of like still so i mean like i'm i'm kind of relevant i guess like you know like yeah but what does any of it even matter but you know i I'm saying? Like, that's my biggest thing is like, I love powerlifting. I love to see the progression of the sport. But then ultimately, records were made to be broken. All this was just arbitrary numbers that were chasing and just, you know, calculations. So, I mean, I don't get too caught up in it.

To be somebody that was like obsessed with being the, I wanted one dot by my name and i got it it really truly i mean like it's just all what we make of it right but that was my goal that's where i did so yeah yeah and you talked about like the money side of it too because we were just talking about mr olympia the body or you know the olympia the bodybuilding show and we don't know shit about shit when it comes to bodybuilding yeah we'd be the first to admit that uh but we were just talking about the payday you know the the first place winner of that wins four hundred thousand dollars you know so if if there was if powerlifting was paying four hundred thousand dollars to the top uh lifter you'd probably consider pretty strongly doing a little bit yeah right i mean i might have i might've stayed in it for, you know, like just indefinitely or whatever,

made it a career, right? Because like to make it a career, it's gotta be something like that. And I mean, like you think about it, like four, I mean like $400,000, that's, I mean like a pretty hefty year salary, right? But bodybuilding, you gotta be on it all day, all year. I mean, like if we want powerlifting to be something like that, it's pretty much you're an athlete. Same kind of situation. Right. Like if we wanted it to be like that. But like even the American pro and this is no shade or anything like that. But the payouts were a couple thousand dollars. Right. Like I mean, like which is a great payout and whatnot. Not like your salary kind of situation. Right.

I mean, it's like it's like, oh, this is nice if I was going to do this anyways. I'd rather get a couple thousand dollars than not get a couple thousand dollars. My travel and what I'm paying to get here, it'll be covered. Cool. I get a cool free trip, right? Right, right.

How was the American Pro overall, though? Did you go last year, too? Yeah. I've been both years. My homie Ana Perez, she is So how was the American Pro overall, though? I mean, did you go last year, too? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I've been both years. My homie Ana Perez, she is one of the co-mediators, her and Micah. And so this is like one of her, it's like her baby.

And so, I mean, like I've got to watch it just kind of take shape. And I mean, like it was cool last year, but this year it was, I mean, I've been around for a minute, right? Like I've been around, I've seen like, I mean, just like some of these meets and stuff and like, I'm not really truly super, it doesn't have to be this giant spectacle, right? There doesn't have to be like, you know, all the fire and the smoke and whatever else like that's, it's a little much sometimes I think,

but if it's done well and it's like done in this kind of situation, this was an event, you know? And that's not just me saying that because it's, you and it's like done in this kind of situation this was an event you know and that's not just me saying that because it's you know my homie that's one of the directors but i've like never seen something that was like i mean just the video screens and like the live streaming and like it this is the kind of thing that makes you like okay this really could be like in the direction of like a sport right like where we're actually gonna maybe make some money out of it somebody's gonna pick it up it's like you know actually sponsoring it like a you know big companies or something like that like that's the kind of thing that people would watch

you know it was pretty cool yeah uh we had micah on like the week before or whatever to get his little preview of the event and stuff too and so um i guess the hope you probably know too being a little bit on the know i guess the hope already for next year is bigger and better again like just uh just continuing to grow that and make it cooler and cooler yeah i mean and so like i have no doubt either like because i mean like like i said lead off year it was pretty cool this year it was i mean really good and I think they'll just probably just keep getting better and better and I mean hey I think it's really cool that I still get to like be around and contribute in a way right because like I love power lifting even if it's not me physically

lifting right and so I get to coach so the American Pro was like three days and I was coaching two days and then I got to commentate on the third day and it's like I really enjoy just being in different positions right so it's like I almost feel like I can make a bigger impact sometimes on the outside of it rather than being in it because in it you have to have to manage so much in terms of like being the athlete right like being the hyper focus like me executing you know what I got to do versus if I can coach it I can bring someone else to get to that point to have that experience and then like commentating is like just fun because I like to talk crap right like I mean just like and I like to have fun and just I don't know people pay me for pretty much to be a mascot sometimes so get in where you fit in right

yeah yeah this is a stupid question but are you from alabama then originally i am not it's not a stupid question okay because everybody asks right i'm originally from south carolina so okay that's there is the southern accent and everything uh alabama bamaber um that i was a alabama roll tide fan so i played softball um growing up how gay of me right like played softball played softball um in high school ended up playing in college but my goal was my dream was to play for our University of Alabama I loved like their softball team is their softball program okay is their so their softball program's legit yeah for sure for sure I was just too broke I couldn't afford to go out anywhere out of state so you knowIP my dream, but I needed my first ever Skype name.

You know, that was how I was communicating with my first ever girlfriend. So I made a Skype and I had to put a screen name and I was like, Bama Burr, because everybody called me Burr. That's a catchy name though. That's good. And I think I was probably like 2008 or nine or something stupid like that made that screen name for my Skype and it has stuck with me ever since and so people used to call me Berg because that's my last name obviously like in sports but then they just started they put it together and um it just stuck too so here we are what what position did

you play in softball you tell me what position do you think i played i don't know i really want to show tanner's answer here i don't know i'll say uh shortstop okay all right you think i'm athletic that's kind of what i'm that's where i'm coming on i was gonna say speedy and athletic i don't know but i don't know i i also don't know it makes a difference were you strong like this then like uh because i don't know like i think a lot of times that strong powerful players will be in i don't know third base left field. No, I wouldn't have guessed that. Okay. I'm built like a teapot, bro. I've always been, I've always been, I've always been strong. Right. But like, I wasn't really like my coaches didn't want me to like lift heavy whenever I was like

playing college ball and stuff. They're like, Oh, you're going to get hurt. So I lifted, but not at, not as heavy, but I've always been just kind of square, right? So I appreciate, I was pretty fast. I was pretty fast, but just catching. I used to play, so I played baseball. Now I'm getting on a tangent, but I played baseball when I first started because I didn't want to play with girls because girls weren't competitive. Girls kind of suck, right? So I played baseball with the dudes and I played shortstop.

I played shortstop and I pitched. So you shortstopped. Yep, you were right. You guys were right. So with the dudes, I was quick and speedy. But when I transitioned over here to play softball, because that was what I had to play if I wanted to play for the school. So I played softball.

And the first team I was ever on, the coach's daughter was the shortstop. And so I wasn't going to outplay her because on, the coach's daughter was the shortstop. And so I wasn't going to like outplay her because that was his daughter. So he was like, hey, Burr, have you ever caught before? And I was like, no, sir. And he said, you're going to learn today. And I said, OK. And I learned and I never played anything else. In college, I got recruited as a catcher.

I didn't get recruited as anything else because that was all I did. Probably one of the coolest things because I just, like, I had somebody actually teach me, and nobody had ever really taught me much of anything, right? So, like, I'd never caught before, so someone just taught me. They threw balls at me and said, block it up, you know, body it up. Like, I just actually was taught, and I listened very well, and I follow a plan.

That's why powerlifting was not really, you do what you're told. You do the things, you do them well and you repeat them over and over. Guess what? You get good at it. But, um, so I was quick, but I was also like a little bit on the, you know, just like stocky side and like ballsy enough, you know, you had to have somebody that wasn't afraid to block a player, that was not like that line right so i fit i fit that and there we have it what what's harder to hit a uh fast pitch softball or uh you know an overhand pitch what what is what is harder to hit um i'm gonna say there's like pros cons of both right because like softball like softball

I'd say like hitting a rise ball in softball is probably the hardest thing it's so close like your distance is a little bit closer right so it's like you're a little bit closer and the ball just moves so much right so I mean like that's one of those things it would baseball it's obviously smaller so that for me i'm kind of blind like my eyesight sucks so i'd say that was harder because the ball was smaller you have a little bit longer to actually see it and track it but like if you're blind it doesn't really matter um i would say i mean like nobody's gonna believe me none of the guys are gonna believe me but i'd say hitting a softball i think it's harder well i think some people do say yeah some people do say that though too like i think i feel like i've heard that before that uh that's true so that doesn't seem just because

it's bigger i don't think necessarily makes that easier either you know is there so when you're catching in uh fast pitch softball i don't hardly know shit about baseball even but you know let's say the catcher's calling pitches signs are you doing the same in fast pitch softball i don't hardly know shit about baseball even but you know say the catcher's calling pitches signs are you doing the same in fast pitch softball yeah so what are the pitches because it seems like they're always just it's always like a fat it's always fast as shit like it's always like a fastball this is so much fun i haven't got to talk like this a long time i mean like so there's fastball fastball obviously right there's a rise ball which a rise ball is so instead of like the opposite of a drop ball drop ball is it's going to come in and it's

going to drop off once you get close to the plate so it's kind of like if you swing it's going to drop in under but rise ball is really hard to hit because it's gonna instead of dropping it's going to go up and so there's not really a way that you can correct the swing to hit a ball if it's rising above. So rise ball, drop ball, there's like sliders, there's curve balls. So just the way that they track and trail off. There's off speed pitches. There's also something that's off off on a slip pitch where this is not thought about this in forever. So normally you have like you know a full

rotation and you go all the way around a slip pitch which is only legal in some leagues is instead of going all the way around a full rotation the pitcher will let the ball go in the middle of like the rotation and so it just kind of like floats in it's like just a trick pitch right okay but like if you're if you're lucky enough i mean sometimes sometimes you can sit back there and you can just wail on it, but, like, it just kind of usually gets to you by surprise. Right. But there's all kinds of stuff.

I mean, so – and being the catcher, right, and actually calling pitches and stuff, for me, I think this is probably why I, like, really enjoyed catching so much was you're in control of the entire game. Sometimes the coach is calling, but, like like once I got to where I was like pretty decent I mean in terms of like you know just assessing what was going on the field I would have free reign pretty much to call like what pitches I thought would like I can tell what's working what's not working I could call the pitch like if you wanted the girl to hit it to right

field where you would call the pitch based on that trajectory i would call that kind of pitch right so i mean just as the catcher you're the only one that's seeing the field from this view everyone else is looking in and you're calling the pitches so it's like you can see everything and i'm obviously a control freak as you can tell um that's why i love i really love that too yeah so do you still do you still follow college baseball to this day uh college baseball not sorry sorry softball yeah you're good you're totally good but softball yeah like I live in Austin now or right outside of Austin and though I mean Texas has always been a pretty good team and so I'll go to Texas softball games like I'm not gonna say like all

the time because I'm not really in Austin very much but like when I'm home if I can catch a game I'll catch a game just because it's so much fun to watch like it's fun it's pretty fast paced and I mean just like what throw throw $20 and I can go watch a baseball game or softball game yeah I'll do it so living in Texas are you still an Alabama fan to this day I am am. Roll Tide roll. And usually nobody's going to fight me, right? I can get away with a lot of things that some people can't. Don't be mad.

But I'm not going to go to the Texas game if Texas isn't playing Alabama and just wear a Roll Tide kind of situation. I'm just going to roll tie kind of situation. I'm just doing something just like, you know, neutral or whatever. I definitely 100% like have my Alabama, like, you know, just like some of my gear and stuff. And I represent, nobody fights me. What, what was your, you did your, did you do one bodybuilding competition or did you do multiple?

I did three. I did three, but i did them all last year okay so what was your uh least favorite part about competing in uh bodybuilding the sparkly bikini maybe um i've never worn a two-piece bikini before in my entire life so buying a fourteen hundred dollar one holy crap and that's common probably then that's just like yes that that was with a two hundred dollar discount guys like how can they cost that much it's like this much uh you know tell me about it i don't know and then okay so you know what let's just go let's just keep on this rant from here right so it'd be that part or the having to pay and wake up at like four o'clock

in the morning to go get a face full of makeup like and your hair done um okay i don't know this just doesn't really seem what like this like i get the pageantry but like you know what I like I like to train hard and I like a challenge I don't really like the whole oh let me just do my hair and makeup and prance around in this sparkly bikini like not really my vibe right like I love the process like I love the hard I love the like grueling cardio sessions and I like I'm not gonna say I love the dieting because like oh my god I didn't realize how fat I am right like I love to eat like I love to eat and so like I didn't realize how much I love to eat until I couldn't eat right and I said that with all the love in my heart, but like just the dieting was hard, but I enjoyed the hard, like the cardio was hard, but I enjoyed that.

I really didn't enjoy the actual competition, like the actual, you know, the show and like the, you know, some people like that. They like getting dolled up and look pretty, but like, I don't know. I didn't love that aspect of it. pretty but like i don't know i didn't love that aspect of it like i wanted to showcase my body like i want to showcase my work versus like none of this really matters right like and so that's kind of like an interesting take on like you know women's bodybuilding and like what's the pageantry of it or like what is bodybuilding like right one of the one of the shows that i did i got i got knocked down because they said i was too conditioned they wanted someone that was a little bit softer than me and i was like

uh okay okay so at what point you know like at what point is this the pageantry aspect or at what point is this the bodybuilding aspect right and like i don't know crap either i'm just i had a really good coach that approached me at the gym that I was training out of. And he just, he saw me deadlift. I think I pulled 450 one day, just like it was sometime last year.

And he just was like, give me six months and I'll make you a women's physique pro. And I said, I wasn't training for anything. Like, I just love to train, right? Like I hadn't competed or anything, but I still, I still like the squat deadlift. You know, I still like to train and train hard. And I just hadn't done anything hard in a while.

And he approached me on the right day when the mood aligned and I was like, okay, what time do I show up tomorrow? Right. And so from that moment on, I was like, I'm going to do a bodybuilding show. And that was it. Right. So that was how that happened. I mean, did, had the idea ever crossed your mind before that? Oh, absolutely. I mean, like, I don't know. I mean, anybody that's gotten into fitness, right. Like has the idea not ever crossed your, like just even if it's fleeting, right. Crossed your mind. Right. Like I got into like fitness and just like training and stuff because i used to just read the

bodybuilding magazines right like i would see the fitness magazines and just like i love the idea of like bodybuilding right like i grew up in like a you know with a bunch of like big dude bodybuilders right just like i was the little token white girl that was like you know ain't nothing but a peanut like that's kind of why i'm like this now right so like i had always thought of it but i i really kind of fell in love i say fell in love with like power lifting because i didn't like that it was so subjective right like even in theory before i'd ever done it i was like well you could diet for 12 weeks or whatever do all the training do all the work but like you're just not what the judge

wants. That feels kind of dumb, right? I was like, with powerlifting, if I do all the things, if I get the strength, if I do the things, it doesn't matter if I'm ugly, or if my makeup's not right, or if whatever else, what matters is I picked the weight up, like to comp spec. So I like the idea that it was like powerlifting was performance based versus bodybuilding being much more subjective. And so that's why I leaned towards like the street sport. But I was approached on the right day, the right time. And I needed to do something hard. And I was just like I had toyed with the idea.

But I just didn't. I never had anybody that like I trusted or anybody that I knew is like a coach. And I didn't know this guy. I didn't know this guy I didn't know this guy from you know anybody else than Justin Mahaley but I knew that he was a coach I knew that he had coached a ton of people like and had pros and so I was like well you must know what he's doing and if he thinks that I can do this sometimes that's all you need is somebody to like just see it in you and like just say hey have you ever thought about it and now you're like okay cool right at least for me that's how I just kind of was like okay well if he thinks I can do this he clearly knows what he's doing hey show me the way right I can follow a plan yeah how did you like the uh posing part of it like did you what did you think of that

that was hard too and like i just i worked with a really good posing coach too um alissa like uh the classical queen uh she is i think she won the new york pro a couple years ago but um she's excellent uh she was great but it was just so hard i'm like and it was hard in a way that i didn't really anticipate because you think about okay you're just like flexing right like not hard at all but so hard especially whenever I had mind muscle connection like I mean like I I like to train like in a like a bodybuilding style anyway but it's like the posing and to be in a really feminine presentation I know how to be big, right? I know how to take up space, but I don't know how to do it and be pretty about it. So like, there was a lot of just like,

the movements were very unfamiliar to me, the positions were unfamiliar to me. So it was like, I was a beginner in a way that like, I really didn't anticipate because like, I know how to take douchey selfies, right? I know how to pose, but I did not know how to take douchey selfies right i know how to pose but i did not know how to pose and like i did not know how to hold my breath a certain way or just you know like to sit there in a whole like i remember when alissa was doing the posing with me she was running me through just like i mean like sessions back and i was breathing so heavy at this point i was doing like two hours of cardio a day or something right Right. So I'm in condition, but I was just sucking air because it was just like so hard, you know, just holding the contractions. So, I mean, I don't know. I definitely have a respect for it that I did before, but I have a deeper respect because I did it right.

The posing and stuff is art if you actually do it right. Now, some people will get on stage and just I mean, like, okay, you look goofy, that's on you. But, like, the posing aspect, if you really do it, it's an art form. And, like, you don't think about that. Like, at least I thought, okay, I'm going to train hard, I'm going to diet hard, and then I can just get, you know, figure the rest out. No, no, no, no, no. I can train hard, I can diet hard, now I'm going to have to pose.

Like, Justin would have me pose every day. He would have me pose every single day and I did right I posed every day with him and then I posed with her just like virtual sessions but it's like you just have to practice you have to and it's like that's even just like a lot of energy to do too when you're eating like nothing right so i mean just all of it in a nutshell i bit off a lot i bit off a lot more than like i probably should have chewed but i chewed it up anyway and i did it three times so that's enough for me for now yeah that's cool okay we've got this little game we play with every guest that we have on it's overrated underrated so we've uh hand-picked a special bam a burr set of over under topics it's your job to you know

pick picking each one whether it's overrated underrated but you just can't ride the line you have to okay definitively say if each one and they're always super controversial so you're in for it okay bring it on all right so over overrated or underrated power rangers underrated so underrated so underrated that's why obviously i wore what i did thank you so much at the american pro which which color power ranger were you uh what what color was that um i was the blue one but i'm gonna be honest with you uh the costume that i ordered was the black ranger and i did not know until the day of when i opened the costume to put it on that it was the blue one um switch it on but yeah putting this big old thing in a blue leotard wasn't really my anticipation but i went with it so okay so

having your choice then is the black ranger your favorite yeah that was yeah okay i was but i i hear i hear the blue ones like the gay ones so i'm guessing the universe it just knew see i don't remember well enough like what is the isn't the one, wasn't that like a cool special Power Ranger that came on later? No, that was the green one. That was Tommy, right? Okay, that was the green one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Okay. I won't lie. Tommy's pretty cool. See, my name's Tommy, so naturally the green one's cool already. He's got the same name. It's like, yeah, that's the one. That's the best one right there.

The red one's probably overplayed, right? Wouldn't red be the – that's probably like the most – is that like one of the most – is he one of the more popular characters? I don't red be the, that's probably like the most, is that like one of the most, is he one of the more popular characters? I don't know. Yeah, I always felt like the red guy. To me, it was like the red guy and the pink girl. Like they were like, we're the real American duo here.

Yeah. The American Rangers. Morphin time. Okay. Overrated or underrated sixth street in austin oh um overrated probably i'm like wait what i'm just overrated because truly everything i think in austin and i'm probably gonna get in trouble for this i think everything in austin is overrated because ew like what's the parking situation that i have a truck and there is no

way i'm going anywhere down there um and trying to park it so like everything is overrated if you're not picking me up or if there's not a real easy parking situation i'm not going so i say everything in austin's overrated that's how far are you like if you were to go like downtown austin like how long does it take to get there 20 minutes okay yeah the whenever i was moving here my i didn't want to be in downtown austin i but my goal was i was like i only want to be 20 minutes from the airport 20 minutes from like downtown 20 minutes from the airport and that was good and so someone told me directly live here and i follow directions really well. Okay. Overrated or underrated grasshopper mowers?

God, underrated. Oh, my God. You did do your research. Yeah, grasshoppers. And, like, only real ones know this, though. But grasshoppers, those are the best. Those are just such a comfortable ride. The deck is so big.

I love cutting grass. Obviously, you guys know this. But if anybody out there you know bambo burr along here let me know i'll come with my grasshopper and chop up that lawn for you baby so have you always yeah has been mowing the grasses that always been like a therapeutic thing you've loved or you've developed that over time um i when i used to live in south carolina i had like three acres of land and so i would cut my grass and i had a big grasshopper um grassmower mower and so i'd cut my grass and then um i lived that house i bought and it was uh just like maybe two or three minutes from where my grandma lived because i looked i took care of her a lot and so i would just ride my lawnmower i'd ride my lawnmower

across the road down to her house yeah and i would cut her grass and then some of the old ladies in her little neighborhood they were like oh can stacy come cut my grass and so i would go cut her grass little old lady's grass and so i'd just make it a full day right like usually on like a rest day or something i would just make it a full day of cutting grass and it kind of just felt like my like service in a way of like this is how I show my love even like you know just like physical tasks that people can't do themselves but also cutting grass I'm not trying to get like super deep on it right but just like I don't know you can't really be bothered when you're cutting grass right like I've got my headphones in and like what can you smell grass

right you're outside you're getting some sun I'm cutting straight lines it you smell? Grass, right? You're outside, you're getting some sun. I'm cutting straight lines. It's the tism in my brain. It makes it feel good. You know, I mean, just like, I love cutting grass, but I also love any kind of physical labor that has you like in nature to any kind of connection. So like, I love to cut grass, even still here in Texas. I don't have my big grasshopper out here, but I cut like two or three girls grass.

Like, just like like i'll go over there and yeah i'll smoke some of their weed and i'll cut their grass and it's just an easy exchange you know there's a grass grass trade-off yeah fair trade bartering i love it yeah what about weed whipping or uh trimming do you also like would you can you be okay so that's part of the service yeah come on a full A full service grass situation? If you just leave – what do you think? I'm just going to not trim it up? Get out of here.

You don't know anything about baseball or cutting grass? What kind of man are you? No, I do know cutting grass. I just want your take on it. Okay, but then the final piece though, the final piece is that edging, the sidewalk edging. Do you hit that too? Oh, yeah, 100%. We've got one of those little edgers that goes – edging. Do you hit that too? Oh, yeah, 100%.

We've got one of those little edgers. Got you. Don't worry. Make it look nice and clean. All right, good. Overrated or underrated white monsters? Oh, my God. I have to choose a stance. I'm going to say they're underrated.

Okay, because they're rated pretty they're pretty well it's like the classic is it I mean is white monster the best monster I mean

is it the best energy drink um no what's better well rockstar there was a rockstar that was okay

it kind of tasted to some people like cough medicine but it was it was cotton candy rockstar okay but see the name already you're throwing me it tasted like blue okay you know exactly what i'm talking about it's the artificial blue okay so like but it had like 300 mgs of caffeine so like you know the white monster you have to drink like it like you have shotgun two of them you kind of feel it you know that's where i'm at with it that's why i'm not at that level but i've i've heard people get there yeah yeah yeah so i hear i hear that you know people how do you guys stay up so late

and you don't even know about this monster game right like but the 300 megs of the rock star i could feel that a little bit you know so i could i can drink that feel it but i think that um they might be discontinued now, so White Monster is still just the OG, but I'm going to say instead of saying it's overrated because I think so highly of it, it's got to just be underrated since I have to choose the stance. Yeah, you do have to choose.

But it's funny, like, White Monster is also a little more OG, too, because now it feels like Reign took such a big like, Re rain has all these sponsored people that are like into the lifting community and stuff but i've hardly ever i've only maybe had like a few rains in my life i feel like i've never really had that many i'm never gonna get sponsored by rain um because i'm about to just tell the truth to what i think

here um i had somebody that i know, they will not be named, but Rain gave them several cases of just like free, you know, from like an event or something. And I was like, oh man, I've never really tried or tasted Rain. And I, you know, drank one. I was like, oh my God, this is terrible. Then I opened something else and I was like, oh my God, this is even worse.

And then, so I just went, I just went through it, right? I was like, I picked one of every flavor and they recorded me i just went through it right i was like i picked one of every flavor and they recorded me and i went through like i just uh what it tasted like just a blind taste test they were all terrible like yeah i don't know maybe there's some that i haven't tried but like uh not a fan like not a fan and is bang energy is that the one at the arnold where it's always the ridiculous booth where it's got like a... Yeah, they always see over the top. How much would you have to get paid to hang out there for like an hour?

I like titties. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, looking at them and stuff's fun, but I don't know if I want to like be in the booth. Right, right. Probably only last for just a little bit of time. That'd be way too much for me. I'm super introverted. Even being at the American Pro for three days,

I still feel like I'm hung over from the lights, right? Yeah. All right, last one, and we saved the best for last. The most important, most controversial for sure. Overrated and under uh rotisserie chicken oh my god so underrated so underrated yo you can have like protein for days guys and like it's anywhere to go okay so like you could be eating it in your truck what's the most underrated thing is a rotisserie chicken in your truck right right? Like front to your truck, just go into town.

So do it anywhere. Do you have a preferred, you know, you can get a rotisserie chicken from anywhere. You get it from Walmart or you can get, you know, yeah. I mean, I'm just, I'm cheap, so I'll just get it from Walmart. Like I'm cheap and trashy. I'll get it from Walmart. People say that like Costco's got some fire chickens, but I don't have a Costco membership. Am I going with you?

You going to get my chicken? Because I love, you know what? Three rotisserie chicken is my favorite. So if you want to buy it for me, I'll eat it from wherever it is, right? So is rotisserie, when you're bodybuilding, is that something you got to eat then too? Like is it where you live now? That's cute. That's cute.

You think I got the rotisserie chicken that's cute yeah nah if it wasn't like basically like plain chicken asparagus um you weren't getting it yeah nah green beans nah i didn't get it for like weeks months years oh my god that part doesn't sound i need to go overeat so so how often do you get like, will you get a weekly rotisserie chicken or not that often? I still try. I still, I'm like,

I'm bulking now, like for real, for real, like not even like just getting fat. Like if I, if I probably will compete in another bodybuilding show at some point in my life, but like my last like show, my stage, it was one 19.

And so, uh, I've lifted dumbbells heavier than that. So like, that's not the mood for me. Right. So like, I'm intentionally trying to get bigger, but I'm also trying not to like get like a super sloppy kind of bigger. So I try to limit my rotisserie chicken consumption maybe once every two weeks yeah yeah yeah yeah all right that's reasonable yeah yeah no more but um because i mean like i'll eat the whole thing like i mean i'll eat the whole thing in one one sitting like like i i'm starting to

talk into like more like normal people like i interact with like normal people on a little bit more regular basis now since i'm not like in the mix of competing and stuff and like people are just so like impressed or horrified by like my eating habits and how much i can eat they're like you're still eating i'm like i'm hungry bro like i don't even you just ate two hours ago and i'm like yeah like i don't know if like the bodybuilder stuff too, just like I can eat. I always could. That was one thing. Just like I,

when I competed my last meet at one 48, I weighed in at one 48, but I cut down from one 72. You feel me? Yeah. Right. Okay. Well,

great news. It looks like you passed overrated underrated so congratulations best in the world again yes still shocker shocker you heard it here top of the chest uh congratulations so where um you you you what is it uh bama um what's your coaching the bama brick squad yeah right so what do people do if they want to find out more about that like Bama, what's your coaching? Bama Brick Squad. Yeah, right. So what do people do if they want to find out more about that? Like, do you take people all the time or what's the process or what it's like? Yeah, I'm currently accepting clients and I coach people that are athletes.

I also coach like lifestyle clients and stuff. I just like coaching people that like to work hard and want to train. But you can visit my website, Bamaricksquad.com or you can shoot me a message on instagram bamboobricksquad training um yeah so just message me there and that's how you get to it right on what about uh the champion mindset podcast have you are you still like where's that at because you've done a lot of episodes before so are you will you still pump them out or is it on pause or what where what's the status yeah i haven't done any like super recently right um i'm working i'm in the middle i'm getting a new editor i'm doing a couple like revamps to it because i have done over 100 episodes i think and

they've all been like solo episodes just like solo episodes me talking basically like you know just like a almost like a meditation kind of way. But I'm hoping next year, like, obviously, next year is like basically next month. But next year, I'm looking to try to get into a little bit bigger studio space and get it where I can have guests on. And so I'm looking to kind of crank out a little bit more and do more consistently, because I was doing it once a week. And like, that was great for a while. And then I just really needed a break from that. So'm gonna try to get them pumping out probably bi-weekly the beginning of next year and then hoping that I can add some guests on too so that's my plan excellent yeah be cool well uh we uh really appreciate you coming on this is a lot of fun

and uh I'm glad especially that we got to talk about rotisserie chickens and grasshopper mowers and softball. I would say the grasshopper mowers were probably my favorite thing. Yep, for sure. Awesome. We appreciate it. I think people really like this, so we're glad we got to talk to you. All right. Well, thank you guys for having me on, and it's about to be my bedtime now, so I'll talk to you guys later.

All right. Thanks a lot, Stacey. All right. Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. see you. Thanks a lot, Stacey. All right, talk to you later. Bye. Tanner, it didn't dawn on me until you said Big Stacey, but as soon as you said it, you know what it made me think of? Uh, no.

All of the Dark Iron Gains memes, the lady is always Stacey in all of them. Oh, it is. I didn't know that it just makes me think of yeah big stacy i just started thinking of dark iron gains i haven't gone down a dark iron gains rabbit hole for a while yeah it's still about like you'd expect yeah um what's the band called 10 scoops or so uh oh yeah i forgot about it yeah was it 10 scoops still waiting for 10 10 i think it's 10 scoops okay i'm still waiting for 10 scoops to make us a little uh custom

masonomic song yeah yeah yeah yeah even like a little like 20 second uh something there a la 10 scoops your brother ryan will put on a little 10 scoops in the gym every once in a while yeah have you ever heard it yeah it's uh because i follow the the dark iron gains uh spotify playlist and i believe they had some 10 scoops pretty sure they had some 10 scoop songs mixed in the playlist on there well they should i mean it'd be weird if they didn't that's why i thought that i had yeah came across it there. Yeah. Should we hit him with an ad? What do we?

Yeah. Let me do it to him. Let me take a swing here. Today's show is brought to you by Texas Power Bar. Softball reference. Take a swing. That was very much a softball reference. Buddy Caps first started lifting weights in the late 60s and began powerlifting in the mid-70s.

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texas power bars and buy one of their legendary bars visit you guessed it texaspowerbars.com i've got a little texas power bars uh news if you're interested oh i'm always interested yeah do i see some retros showing up over there yeah Yeah. Have I talked about any of them? Well, the one you talked about that you got, who did you get it from again? Well, I got to, yeah, that was the first gen Texas Power Bar from Big Efren. Yes. Okay. That's what I thought. Yes.

So that was the last time I've, that's the last update on that. That's the last update I got. So here's a little, we know, everyone knows about our Texas Power Bars timeline that we do here that, you know, you've come to, everyone has come to know and love. But here's some more detailed, really, really on the nuance of Texas Power Bars that I've started to become more, not an expert on, but I don't know. I just understand it better than I did in the past. Enough to be able to semi-confidently explain what's going on here with my Texas, my growing Texas Power Bar vintage collection. Oh, is this our newest segment?

Tanner explains the Texas Power Bar's history, but it's not part of the ad? Yes, this is reading between a lot of those dates and lines in there. What I've found is there's just massive gaps in our timeline. So, like, I read, like, the, you know, one of the movies, and now you're going to take us down, like, a TV show side quest here. Yes, this is like, oh, you jackass, you never read the comic books, and you didn't see the cartoon? Big fan over here.

He's watched the movie a few times. He's like, you didn't watch the cart the cartoon series like yeah that was only on tv from 82 to 84 and nothing else since then oh yeah you're you're really into it aren't you like well no i didn't watch it was a cartoon yeah i wasn't born yet um so that one i bought from efferent is what you'd call a Generation 1 Texas Power Bar. Roughly what year are we talking here? A Generation 1 Buddy Caps Texas Power Bar. That would be whatever they say is a 1980.

1980. Is that what it's stamped on? Passion Drive and Purpose. Yes, that's like a 1982. I don't know when they stopped making what's considered the Gen 1 Power Bar, but that would be one of the original. Early 80s-ish. Yeah, one of the original Buddy Caps-ish. Yeah, one of the original

buddy caps Texas power bars, and they are not stamped on the end. It does not have a Texas stamp on it. So how do you know what it is? Is there any indication on it? The way it is built and constructed.

Oh, you know because of the way it is? Yeah, right, right. Like because of its characteristics. You can tell there's a Texas power bar because of the way it is. Right, right, right. Because someone that I, really, if you ask me how I can tell it is, it's because I bought it from someone that knows.

Someone that's smarter than you told me. Yeah, that knows and told me. Which is how a lot of things in life are so that's kind of true really if you think about it but I believe what you would say is because nobody else actually made a bar that's that specific you know you know because

caliber well and even just like the way it's the unique characteristics that you could define it by but really in my case it's just because somebody said that. And then I look at other people that are also advertising a Gen 1 Texas Power Bar, and I'm like, ah, yes, it looks the same. I see these similar patterns popping up here.

Yes, I guess I see how they are both the same bar. So I got that. And then I've also got, of course, at the gym, what many would consider. We've got multiple gen four Texas power bars, which are like what our gym started with is a generation four Texas power present day. Isn't it? Well, caveat, some people consider now the 29 millimeter is a, yeah, excluding millimeter though.

Yeah. Well, but, but it's important because some people would, some people now call, in the community, now call that 29 millimeter a Gen 5 Texas Power Bar. The Texas Power Bar Commission gathered and they voted and said, we have entered a new era. But there was dissent among all of them. Not everyone would agree that it's still all Gen 4,

but some people would say 29 millimeters Gen 5. At the 50th annual Texas Powerball Congressional meeting, they didn't come to a consensus. I have the mindset I like for it to be called a Gen 5 just so it's another distinction when I speak of this collection. There's more layers you can pepper in there. So we have Gen 5. We've got multiple Gen 4s. Gen 4s really would always be a special place in my

heart as my personal favorite still in the gen it does feel like it does feel like the classic the modern day classic yeah uh the gen 1 which i've got and have used many times i like the gen 1 is still a nice bar um the one I most recently ordered that's not here yet, he's shipping it tomorrow, is a Gen 3. Oh. And the Gen, so the Gen 1, Gen 4, the bar you know. Yeah. You know how it's, the end of the barbell is recessed

and then there's that. The caps are inside there. The cap, yeah, on the inside. The Gen 1 is not like that. Yeah, it's just like it has a yeah it has a convex yeah rounded uh end to it and no stamp on it gen three the one i ordered it is uh indented ends so there's not that there's not like that painted cap thing that's in there the texas end cap isn't on there the texas end cap isn't in there but there is a texas stamp inside

of there okay that gets worn out worn off on a lot of them actually like i don't know how it gets worn because it's recessed in there but so that's a gen 3 that i have on the way. In between it, it looks very much like the Gen 3, the one I ordered, that is recessed and has the Texas stamp inside it. This one, Gen 2, is also recessed and has the stamp inside of it where it's literally just stamped onto the metal. But the distinction is the Gen 2 has a snap ring. None of the other Texas power bars have a snap ring, and this Gen 2 has a snap ring inside of that somehow, some way.

Are there any barbells in the gym right now that have snap rings? Yeah, there's like the Rogue ones. Oh, those do. Those have that. Like the American barbell probably does. And all of them that have, most of them besides the Texas power bar do. Okay, that's right. The Texas power bar has those.

I can't remember what that, 50 people listening will know the answer to this right away, but it's basically like about three inches from the end of the barbell on the sleeve. It's like the cotter pins. It's those punch pins. Oh, yes. That's how you take a power bar. Yeah, I was trying to think, how the hell do youter pins. It's those punch pins. Oh, yes. That's how you take a power bar. Yeah, I was trying to think, how the hell do you do that?

You have to punch those out. The word is escaping me of what that's called. You explained. I knew exactly what you were talking about. 75 people will DM me and be like, oh, you dumb fucker. This is what it's called. They're rear-ending the person. They're so mad driving their car right now.

God damn it, Tanner. You don't know anything. I know everything. You are so stupid, and I am so smart. And you bought them in the wrong order, you dumbass. So you'll have a full collection here shortly, then. Well, so I don't have the Gen 2. Oh, well, so did you order one or not?

Not the Gen 2 yet. Oh, okay. The Gen 2 with the snap ring, they didn't make for very long. It's kind of funny. It's not particularly valuable, but it is relatively rare. So I found one guy that has one for sale in Texas, maybe ironically. Of course. But he will not ship it to me.

I haven't convinced him yet. So I'm still on the search for that Generation 2, but the other bar that I haven't mentioned yet in any of this. There's more? I now will have the 1, 3, 4, 5, missing the 2 that I'm on the hunt for, but there's more. The one I also have in

the gym that I most recently got, my Gen 3 isn't here yet. Don't tell me Image Barbell. It's not Image Barbell. It's actually a Champion Barbell. my gen 3 isn't here yet don't tell me image barbell it's not image barbell it's actually a champion barbell all this to be said this is a missing part

of our timeline read here this is the deepest deep dive this is the interesting part the rest of it you might think shut the fuck up why are you still talking about these this is the, it all leads, this is the interesting part. The rest of it, you might think, shut the fuck up. Why are you still talking about these? This is the interesting part.

You know how I said the Gen 1 does not have a Texas stamp on it. Yeah. The bar I have in the gym that predates the Gen 1 Texas Power Bar, it's the original Texas Power Bar, but not not the original buddy caps oh yeah because wasn't there like another manufacturer of them yeah it is the mac there you go yes yes yeah so i have the mac which the mac and the gen 1 look very similar although where they don't have the indented ends they have the the rounded end you say return the mac did you play that everyone started dancing you're like whoa but the mac on the end of it and most macs because they're they're

even older and this stamp was not deeply stamped into the metal most of the stamps are worn off of the mac texas like this is the original original bar that first had this Texas stamp on it. It doesn't say Buddy Caps. It says Mac's Texas Power Bar that has the Texas state logo. MAC. Yeah. And so Buddy worked for Mac. Yep.

This is, as I understand it, split off to make buddy caps barbells the gen one didn't have the texas thing on it yet because mac was still in production at the time and they had the rights to that by the time the texas uh gen two came around mac was out of business and buddy now had the texas power bar name gotcha that that he originally worked on those bars at Mac. So I have a Mac, and it's a really nice Mac. What I would understand with my limited knowledge, it's a really nice Mac because it's got really good, the logo on the end of it's very strong still. And I've used the Mac, and it is a good bar there again

this is a bar from the 70s now probably yeah yeah and like compared to say like our our classic origin story that everyone knows at this point is the ymca you know the local western northeast south dakota ymca where we met where we lifted um where we began power lifting where massonomics sort of began this bar is still way better than any bar they have there that at least that they had there at our point in time like i'm like you could definitely like there's you could do anything with any lifts with this bar and you'd be absolutely no problem it would be nice you'd be like oh that's a pretty good bar they don't say strong as a house for nothing that's amen um so that's where i'm at so now i actually have not just the one through five i have the mac through the one through the five just a whole on the two as of now

but then uh what makes me think when i get the two well then do i need to find somehow find an image barbell and it's the problem that completes the storyline well i think the problem is some of these become so obscure they're not even collectible like nobody even knows what it is like what is this guy asking for i'm already kind of getting there like on this gen 2 texas power bar it's not even really collectible you're just lucky if someone has it for sale and someone knows it gen 2 texas power bar it's not even really collectible you're just lucky if someone has it for sale and someone knows it's a texas power bar so it's like ah this has some value still you know half of these things with collectible i mean you know it firsthand it's not related to their their value or it's all no it's all related to hype and

sentimentality so you could be the one to start the craze on the Gen 2 right now. Well, I think we, once I, I need the Gen 3's got to show up and then I need to get this Gen 2. And once we have the Gen 2, I think we could do a fun little YouTube, basically this in a YouTube video form of showing each of them.

Do the full timeline of all of them? Yes. I mean, that'd be cool. Especially if we got some good photos of the end caps and the knurling on all of them. It would be a cool little thing. Yeah. Yeah.

But I got to have the Gen 2. Otherwise, it's an incomplete set. Yep. Yep. Can't be having that. So if anyone out there, if you have what I just described to you as a Gen 2 Texas Power Bar, let's talk. Let's talk. Get your people in touch.

But it's kind of fun because some of these things are, the Mac is pretty collectible, so that wasn't all that cheap. But like the Gen 2 and Gen 3, they're kind of just like old barbells. Or like not like super old collectible. They're just like. There's not a lot of specialness to these they're kind of old these have just been used several years in the gym like they're not super collectible yeah well i found that story very interesting i can't wait to see the collection finished out

yes oh and uh one other note on the whole thing then is, yes, I have continued to buy many more barbells here in 2023. That number, I'm not even sure what the number is. We'll have to review that a little bit before we come to our end of the year recap. The number is for sure over 10. It might be like 10. I don't know. Yeah, it's pretty high. It has to be over 10.

Yeah, because just here I'm buying these three. I've got at least three old Texas power bars. We came home from the Arnold with three, didn't we? Like two or three. Yeah. Yeah. And then I, I think I bought one or two others.

So I might be at like an eight or nine. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll keep that in mind. And I think the over under was like two or three.

And I thought, we'll keep that in mind for the guessing game next year, January. But then I really couldn't, now with all these, I really couldn't see buying many more bars. No, I would, no one will come out with any new good bars or anything.

There'd never be a reason for it. I'll just be like, oh, what's another brand of old ones I can collect? Well, you don't have the knurled axle bar yet, do you? No, and I still want that. Yep, slipping right there. That's a major gap. Yes.

What was the Midwestwest oh boy strap on in i've got a story for you so tanner you're an alum you're an alum of one of canada's top business schools yes absolutely people that don't know we're talking about the university of south dakota of course yeah uh football championships, high school state football championships going on there as we speak. As we speak, yes. So I ran across a local publication this weekend, and I don't want to misquote anything here,

so I took a picture. We would never want to misquote something on the show. No, we don't do that ever. So this local publication, they had just random stuff in it like they always do. But then there was a little, a map. And this map looked like it was highlighting the Midwest to a certain extent. So you have my attention now, I'm curious.

And so there was, this part didn't even get a headline, but the first sentence really caught my attention. Because it was just, it was just like, ah, here's this part of the article. And then they did a little dot, like, all right, we're starting a new article, but it's still in the same one. And the first sentence says, what exactly is the Midwest? Does it include Michigan, Indiana, Ohio? How about South Dakota? I'm like, all right, here we go here. And this was very interesting.

This was tailor made for us. It says, Middle West Review, a scholarly journal based out of the University of South Dakota, sought to gauge perceptions of people about whether they think they live in the Midwest or whether they consider themselves to be Midwestern. And so I was one, very interested in the results and also amazed that right here in our own state, we have the Middle West Review, a scholarly journal devoted to studying the Midwest. And I did have to Google it. And of course, usd.edu, their website does have a page for the Middle West Review. And you can follow them on Twitter where they have all types of Midwest facts. It looks like they also work with the University of Nebraska to do some of this

information. And even when I did a little looking, you can go to the University of Nebraska and you can buy the Middle West Review, an interdisciplinary journal about the American Midwest. So they have books on this even, all types of books out there. But what I thought was very interesting was what they talked about here, talking about one of their polls, asking people across states in the Midwest and even Midwest adjacent, do you identify as living in the Midwest? And the numbers, I don't think are that surprising. So we'll start in our state. How many people in South Dakota, what percentage do you think identifies living in the Midwest in South Dakota? Well, what I think to break, to really dig into

the nuts and bolts of South Dakota, East River is Midwest. Yes. West River are the people that I could think making more of a case for not Midwest, but that's not a 50-50 split of population. I don't know. East River must be 70% of the population or 75. I don't even know. It's a high percentage of the population,

but some people in East river might say they're not some people west or might say they are so i'm just going to say the split so i'm going to say i would say like 75 percent yeah maybe it's and maybe it's lower so i'll say 70 you're way too low okay oh i'm too low okay that makes me feel good that it should be high okay good so that's even better than according to this survey 90 92.2% of South Dakotans identify as being in the Midwest. Well, that's right. But I could just see the West River people making a case for not Midwest. To show our bordering states here,

I'll say the other Dakota, North Dakota, 93.8% of North Dakotans identify as being Midwest. Okay. South Dakota, 93.8% of North Dakotans identify as being Midwest. Okay. South Dakota was 92.2%. Nebraska, 92.8% identify as being the Midwest. I'm curious, though, out of all the Midwest, what state do you think has the highest level of identifying as being Midwestern? Let me think.

The highest level of identifying. I would think an I state state i would say iowa like because what is iowa if it's not the midwest it's a very it's a very illinois would be my second best guess i guess maybe you are correct 96.7 percent of people in iowa identify as being midwest whereas the next closest, Minnesota, 96.5. So it's very close, actually. So those would be the top ones. So I don't think there's any huge surprises there.

I feel like we, I mean, maybe the surprise is how many South Dakotans actually identify as Midwest. But I think there might be some surprise to Eastern Midwesterners because they don't, they start to, it starts to get to like South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, and they don't think that that's as Midwest. Whereas I think of Iowa as the quintessential Midwest. And I totally agree. So we start, we start looking at the fringe states though. And these are the areas that are, you know, more in that gray zone, you know, it's harder to identify where, where do these align? So frequently discussed topic on the Massanomics podcast,

Ohio, do you live in the Midwest? What percent do you think that were polled of Ohioans believe that they're in the Midwest? Well, what I've heard based on the people that we've had on the podcast and the supporting crew that live in Ohio, if you would have asked me this question before I had all that knowledge, I would have said it had to have been a really low number because it does not feel like the Midwest to me

near like this does. But so many of them say that they are from the Midwest almost just like surprised me, but I understand that now. So I would say maybe it's got to be at least 50 and maybe i'll say 65 according to this 78.2 percent identifies midwest in ohio yeah so that seems really high they're believing it over there um yep they also got some some very on the outside edge like tennessee nine percent of people in tennessee think they're midwest that's not right there's not even nine percent there that are midwest that's not 30 30 in kentucky 13 in west virginia no eddie brought this one to our attention pennsylvania he said some people thought pennsylvania was the midwest well according to this 9.4 percent of people think pennsylvania is the midwest and god damn you could not be more wrong about thinking that is the midwest you only have one state to the east of you.

You can't be Midwest. Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania. That is like... You were founded with the country. Yes. No one had to go west to find you. You were there. But when you look at the other side of the range now,

they actually have numbers in here for Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado. First of all, Idaho is not in the Midwest. Well, 25% of them seem to think they are. Yeah, that's not right. They're mistaken. Those numbers do not belong in the Midwest one bit.

Where do you think Wyoming, though? Where do you think they sit? Because I do not think that they are Midwest. Yeah. They're probably, I guess the biggest takeaway is everyone thinks they're in the Midwest. Apparently. Yes. Like everyone thinks they're in the Midwest.

So I suppose they're over 50%. They're at 53%. Yeah. And Montana's not right. Montana's at 30%. Colorado's at 42%. Colorado is not the Midwest. You have the freaking mountains.

It is in the Rocky Mountains. Your state is known for some mountains. They also have Kansas and Oklahoma on here and Arkansas as well. Kansas out of those is the most close. Yes, and Kansas has 91% of people, and I can see how they would think that. They do feel a touch south but yeah still that's i'm just we're we're on the northern end of the midwest so sure right oklahoma 66 percent of people there think they're in the midwest 26 percent in arkansas so um yeah according to this 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21.

Roughly 21 states think that they're part of the Midwest in one way or another. So over half. Just about half. But I guess what does, what more than the people that live there thinking they are a part of something makes something a part of, like that is probably the truest test of what makes something something is if the people all believe it. If everyone believes it, then it's hard to say

that no matter what, then it's true. That is how a lot of things in the world work. Even if we all agree that the color blue is actually now the color red, if everyone agrees it, then it's true. I mean, the biggest example of this in the world to me

is we all agree that money is worth something. It's nothing more than a piece of paper with a different number printed on it. But we all believe it. The entire world agrees that that is worth something, and that's what makes the world go round. It's literally what makes people get up in the morning because we all agree that this piece of paper with a number on it is worth something.

If we didn't believe that, then the whole system falls apart. Yes. Which is crazy. So I tend to whatever people say, you know, if Ohio says they're 80 some, they are the Midwest. If that's what the people that live there say, then I agree with that. You know, I can't argue against it, really. I would say though, this has been such a long going topic

to a lot of people that follow Masonomics. If you do go to Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it and follow the Middle West Review, they just have tons of posts and graphics about this stuff. Kevin would probably love this. They got charts all day.

Is this just for, is this a USD based publication? I, the, yeah, I believe that this is a, it's not really a publication. It is a journal or it's a,

okay. What's the technical word for here? It is the Midwest review. Is it, oh, it's an interdisciplinary peer reviewed journal. Okay. Yeah.

So they have people studying this. You were in Canada's top business school. I know. Not that you mentioned it, I remember this. I was in the editorial team. So there's our Midwest update for this week. Also, actually, before I forget it, speaking of Canada's top business school,

Nathan Fielder has a new show out on Showtime. Where can he possibly go from here? This one's scripted, actually. Oh, okay. But from what I hear, it sounds like it's got plenty of awkwardness in it. So I'm going to try. I think it's called The Curse.

I'm going to try and watch that one here the curse uh a less popular bodybuilder nickname it's kind of the the heel of the situation no one really likes him no he's the curse what about compute oh i had a quick story here i ordered my wife's wanted a computer for a while she uses mine mostly which is fine she's never had a computer she's never i've actually she's been begging you for a computer for the last 20 traditional type of life here i don't believe women should have access to computers so got her a smart honey there's got a smartphone this year and that will rot your brain. You just go back to reading the Midwest Review that I give you.

That's what she reads. That's all she gets. But she had broke her own computer a while ago. She'd been using mine. She'd been wanting a computer for a while at her old place. We were so tight on room. I said, no, when we go here, look at this. I got this vast expanse behind me.

There's this room for computers for days back here. You could set up a really old, where a computer takes up an entire room. Isn't that kind of funny, though, the evolution of computers? For a while, they're like like everyone would have to have a computer but now it's like well because everything's a computer like sometimes you don't like you'd be like she just hasn't even had one and really the main reason she needs one is because for work stuff she has to actually remote into a system so it's like i can't really do that on a phone doesn't work right yeah and then also the nature of what she's doing she has a lot of charts and shit up so having a big screen like having real estate is helpful so um yeah and i had i

i said yes yes we'll get you we'll get you a computer we'll do this when we get the house get room so um go on apple and the the setup i decided to do i get her getting her a mac mini with a with a screen so you have the im, but going slightly different route with her. So she has the Mac mini. It's like this own little aluminum enclosure. It's like this little aluminum box. It's probably a six by six square

and it's probably three inches tall. So it's this little flat aluminum box is what it looks like. And I ordered this thing from Apple. And then you just plug a monitor yeah then you just plug a monitor in whatever you got so i got i got all this other stuff so yeah we'll get all this stuff plugged into it and uh so you order this thing from apple and getting the tracking numbers all that says it's delivered and i go up to our steps to look at it and I see a package sitting

there and my first thought is god I hope a computer's not in there because if it is it is in rough shape I just see this mangled box I'm thinking my wife ordered clothes or something because being a much better situation and it was all I could think of is is it the opening scene of Ace Ventura where he's doing the cartwheels and like kicking the box and like, that's what this box looks like. It is just destroyed. And so I pick it up and I look and yeah, sure enough, it is the computer, which, which isn't the best sign right off the bat. I think, well, they know what computers in here.

They probably have it packaged up pretty good in the box. Right, right, right. And no, there's no additional packaging. And then Apple's very eco-conscious so i'm thinking well other than i'm thinking well maybe the computer box itself has a little padding but right because apple's so eco-conscious their packaging has just slimmed down to just hug i mean look at your your iphone when you open that right the box is just millimeters outside the edge of it and i'm looking at it and the box is just smashed in i can see the computer actually

poking out through the box which is kind of amazing because those boxes are hard and rigid. Right. And it just keeps getting worse. And then I open it. Yeah. It's got like dents and scuffs and scratches in this aluminum, this aluminum computer. And I'm just like, I'm not even going to bother to plug this damn thing in because even if it doesn't want, even if it works, you're like, yeah, I'm not keeping it. I'm just assuming everything's just held together by a thread on the inside, you know, just hanging on.

So, uh, yeah, the computer showed up and within an hour I had a return label to send it back. So, um, I guess,

I guess, I guess even Apple has their off days. Apparently who, who was shipping that thing tight and fitness. days, apparently. Who is shipping that thing, Titan Fitness? Well, the crazy part is, though, the damn things do ship from China. The shipping label does come from China, which is kind of amazing that you order this a week ago and it shows up in a week from China.

But, yeah, someone over there did not get the shipping memo, apparently. Yeah, even if it worked perfectly you'd be like i just this is no that's what i thought well yeah this thing is pretty heavy duty there's a chance it's got no scuffs on it and then i thought well even if it had no scuffs would i really want to take the chances and have this be the one i want to keep but yeah yeah it was scuffed and damaged i think the one i have here it's a it's a refurbished one technically, wasn't it? Yeah, and Apple's refurbish is, if you're ever thinking about buying Apple computer stuff,

unless you're like a major power user, even then, Apple's refurbish is so good because a lot of times you're saving anywhere between $100 and $400. And you get their full... In this case, I can say is good. Yeah, you get their full regular year warranty that they give with everything else like your warranty isn't any shorter I think on most of their devices if it's refurbished they usually replace the whole external enclosure so I don't

know in the case of an iMac if they're replacing the entire screen everything but on a lot of devices they do they take the guts out of the machine and they'll put in a new thing. So, yeah, it's a pretty solid deal. It's definitely worth looking at if you're trying to save some money on Apple products. Yeah. All right. Should I tell everyone about Juggernaut AI if they don't know already? I think you should.

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before, if that's something you're worried about, I wouldpe stuff like that and if you've never done rpe before if that's something you're worried about i would not worry about that at all you get started on it you're going and it doesn't matter if you're finding the perfect rpe rate i want this some a point i would make it doesn't matter if if it's really an eight or if it's really an 8.5 just start inputting the information you know go go with your best leading on that. You'll start to develop a, maybe a better feel for that as you go. A six cents you could say. Yeah. You start to develop the six juggernaut AI sense.

It's like Bruce Willis is right there with you. And it's like, Oh, I was on juggernaut AI the entire time. But really like what I'm, my point is is there that doesn't like some of that half rpe here there that's not the point the point is the overall uh rating like the over the grand scheme of things how they how they add up so just get started give it a try um it really starts to make a lot of sense as you get going and that's if you just have any any worries about that part of it best part though my favorite absolute favorite part about juggernaut ai is their discount code it's massonomics that's the only discount they have or have ever had so do not or will ever have ever if you've ever heard anyone else advertise their code uh do not believe

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You know what they say. Don't major in the minors. That's exactly right. That's what I've always said. I just think of Tanner. He always says that. Always. Like, that doesn't even apply right now, Tanner,

but whatever, man. What do you mean? Why? What? It's like a Michael Scott thing. You're just at work and you just stand up. Don't major in the minors. Tanner, that does not apply here, but okay.

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