Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 415: CT Fletcher

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! everything. Massonomics. Welcome everyone for episode 415 of the Massonomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing. It's usually about nothing, but it's not about nothing this week because we got a whole lot of something to talk about. We've got so many things on our list and probably most importantly, we've got a whole lot of something to talk about. We've got so many things on our list, and probably most importantly, we've got C.T. Fletcher as our guest this week, which is a bucket list guest. That's damn near a decade in the making. That's going to be a fun one that I wasn't sure if we'd ever get him on here,

and we got it going this week, so that's great. We're coming back from the Arnold and got a lot of stuff to talk about there uh but of course my name is tanner and my name is tommy almost talked too much without telling people what my what our names are i would have forgot i'm glad you got pretty confused now if this is your first massomics podcast the first one you're ever listening to you're in for a treat you're in for a treat, you're in for a fast-paced, wild adventure that we're going to lead you down. But first, before we get too far down that road, I want to tell you about The Strength Co. They make the best made-in-America iron plates that exist. The best on the market, the best there ever has been, the best there ever was, the best there ever will be.

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Yeah, you know what that means. It's been a while. I don't know if what's going on in the world, but I feel like I hear that saying 50 times a day in common life now. Just everyone I interact with is just saying that nowadays. I don't know what's, that's just a function of the mass dynamics podcast bleeding out into the zeitgeist.

It is. We're putting something out there because I'm getting a lot of that lately. Do they have a button that plays the stain song? They do not actually, you know, what was funny. I don't know if you noticed this, even in our Arnold tour video,

you're asking John hack something. And he goes, I and he goes, I about the Brendan Dassey thing. It's been a while. It's been a while. I don't know. That's good. What do you got a can over there this week? Or do I ever? This is a.

I got I got orange here. This is orange. What? Oh, the cup. I forgot the here. This is orange. What? Oh, the cup. I forgot the cup. You got orange too? Did you grab orange? With the twins.

Yeah, I grabbed orange also. So we're twins. What is this brand? Lidl? L-I-D-L? Lidl? I guess so. Exclusively at LIDL.

So is that some sort of regional store of some kind? And this came from our friend in Long Island, right? Or who is that? Was it also the Lins Cup guy? Yeah, wasn't it? Right, wasn't it? I don't know. I cannot confirm.

I forgot his name already. Yeah, I don't know. I talked to him for quite a while, and I feel bad, but I cannot remember his name. I thought it was the Long Island guy. Yeah, he has a shaved head. So it's caffeine-free, sodium-free, sweetener-free, and we both grabbed the orange sparkling water flavor.

And at a crispy crack, Tommy, what's your first thoughts? Delightful. Yep. That hits just right. Just everything you that's everything you want in a sparkling water and it pairs great with my twins come to that oh yes it do yes it do we have a shitload of stuff to talk about this week i don't know how we could possibly get to it we gotta try and we just gotta jump right in i think we don't even have time to mess around we gotta dive right in we can't talk about weather we can't talk about where we're from that although the weather has been nice

but we're not going to talk about it but it has been nice it has been but it's actually going to get a little cooler again for a while until it stays nice for the rest of the year so it's been really nice like let's actually just talk about the weather it's been really really nice but i do see for the rest of march it's going to cool back down a few degrees again. So we're not going to get like 60s and 70s every day for the rest of the month. That's okay. It's been good. All right.

Now that we did get weather out of the way, there was no beating around the bush. We had to talk weather. You couldn't stop us. We have, here's big news this week. We have a big drop coming. So I guess we can just talk about all this because if you were at the Arnold, you saw all these items anyways. I got everything back into the Massanomics Fulfillment Center that was left over from the Arnold.

What we're left with is four new tees that were not on the website prior to going to the Arnold. New means different things for each of these. One of those where it's less new is the Squats tee. We just haven't actually stocked that for a few months. It's been a while since we've stocked that, but we do have the Squats tee back in stock, so that's one of them. The other one that's like that that's been much longer since we've stocked it is the lifted tea with the uh terminator ish look to the vibe of the lifted tea and that one uh that's on that black tea with the

white print a very iconic front print on that one and we do have that one available now on the site starting thursday and then the two kind of newer ones. One of them is the, we've had the, our gym tea mass dynamics, gym tea for a while, but for the first time now we have that on OD green, which looks really cool. Love that new one. One of my new favorites.

And then another one of my new favorites is the heavy is a feeling tea where this one similar to the design that we had on a Heavy is a Feeling gray hoodie earlier this fall. And now we have that on a t-shirt. People like the hoodie so much, we used all of our skills and resources, and we turned it into a t-shirt. Yes. So those four Ts will all be available starting Thursday this week, and that is, if you're listening, that's the 14th. So that those should all be around by the time you're listening to this

episode when it comes out. So make sure to check out, uh, any, all that and everything else that we've got. Um, everything else that we got left is back on the site now. So go buy some stuff.

We'd love to ship it out to you. Do it. Also, uh, YouTube has been popping off for us lately too. We've had a lot of a lot of action going on over there that's true uh we're doing like double we're doing like three youtube videos a week right now counting the podcast that's really padding our numbers for

thinking are we going to get to 50 youtube videos for the year remember that i believe that was the over-under number oh that's true we are really really staying ahead of our quota there that's we're doing several interviews from the Arnold that are coming out. Omar Esaf interview came out today with the world's longest handshake. What interview? Dr. Mike interview we posted last week. We did our Arnold tour, which I really like that video. It's just like a five-minute long video of you and I going around

showing off some of the highlights of the actual Arnold inside the convention center. And then Thursday this week or Friday this week or Sunday this week, the Arnold vlog comes out, which is kind of actually the biggest, longest video from the weekend. It might be three hours long. I don't know. We've got to see what the director's cut ends up being. It's just like a three-day-long live stream of everything that ever happened. We just live streamed everything the entire trip.

Yeah. So that will be a fun one. And then there's a few more interviews to come out even after that that we haven't released yet. So stay on the lookout for the rest of that. We'll try and pump it all out pretty soon. And subscribe to our YouTube channel if you're not already. We're getting very close to the 5K mark. So it'll make me feel I'll sleep

better at night when I see that that is actually in fact over 5,000. With your help, we could get there. I know there's a bunch of you people listening that have been slow to go hit the subscribe button. Just go do it. Get it over with. Make sure to use all of your

email accounts to hit that subscribe button. Yes. Do we want to talk about the Hall of Fame? I think so. I think we better get that one out there, yes. We've got to talk about the Hall of Fame. So our big crew mailing that we've been talking about for several weeks finally went out when we got back from the Arnold.

I had time to get the last of that ready and get them all in the mail. So we snail mailed out approximately 450 letters to a whole bunch of you listeners. All of you that are supporting members either will have your letter already, or if not, it probably means you live a long ways away and it's on the way, or your address changed and it's on its way back to me. I'll have to reach out to you and say, well, what is your new address? You failed to tell me you have a new one, but for most of you, you will have it in hand. And what is that thing, Tommy, that they've got in hand now? Well, there's a few things that they'll

have in hand. The first thing that they'll get is an envelope that has important information regarding their hall of fame status. Once open the envelope there is a little sheet of paper that provides some context to the directions to the hall of fame and how that works and then you also have your hall of fame membership card your hall of fame punch card maybe even is a better way to put it and do we want to go through all the all the the details of the whole thing for people that aren't aware or um i guess i don't know if we have to go through specifically what all 16 of them are, but we can give our rough idea. Some of it, it's a mixture of, so what you need to do is you need to check out a certain

number of these and it gets you a certain status level, a certain level within the Hall of Fame, and there's kind of commemorative prizes to go along with the level. So if you mark 12 off, we have a special Hall of Fame silly pint that only members of this can get. And if you mark 15 off, we would have a special challenge coin that only the 15 make it. And then also the website that goes along with this is what? Massanomics.com slash HOF.

Yes. And that's where those that make it into the Hall of Fame, once you make 12, you get your name and handle in there. If you make 15, then I think you get your picture and a small quote to go in there. And if you get all 16, a perfect blackout, then you get what? Like a special designation within the site. You get to add a short message along with a photo i believe was the other thing yes that's at 15 right yeah yep all right sorry are you talking 15 or 16 yeah because 16 we have a yes okay yeah yeah 15 yep

you get the challenge coin and you also get to add a photo along with a short message into your entry in the hall of fame which is a lot of bragging rights right there. Yep. And then, but if you get 16, what did we say? You're the highest of achievers. You are a master completer. You have completed every challenge. Yeah, you get the title of master completer. Yes. And then that's the highest honor. Yes. So which, I mean, I don't know what else anyone could want in life other than that title. Might as well put it on your LinkedIn too. So, so we've got a few people that have already hit that 12 threshold and uh you actually mailed out some hall of fame uh silly pints today so be on the lookout but like what they are there's 16 of them and it's a mixture of

uh listen you know hit certain thresholds of listening to the massonomics podcast you know some of them are uh you know like if you own a massonomics podcast. You know, some of them are, you know, like if you own a Mastonomics drink spotter, that's one of them. So some of them are kind of like buying things from us. But a lot of them aren't really buying things from us. A lot of them are, have you ever come to this event before? Have you ever been to Mastonomics gym before? Have you been on Unpaid Underrated before? Right.

Have you ever had your voice on the Mastonomics podcast before? And that sort of thing so a wide variety that anyone is able to check off some of them and uh the week's not over as much as anything there's rights that go along yes and the week's not even over we're only a we're halfway through the week and we already got four names on the 12 achievement list so i believe that that will be growing a little bit i'm very curious who's going to be the first one to hit 15 though let's it's not easy to hit 15 hitting 15 requires a lot uh a lot of uh in-depth completeness i think 12 is very doable for a lot of people but 15 will be very hard for very many people to we will get

there on some of them. Some of them are even just being a supporting member for a certain period of time, so some of it just takes time. A couple of them are reward people that I guess signed up longer ago. So yeah, we thought it was pretty fun. We're enjoying seeing how that's playing out for people, and we'll be happy to see.

I don't think they've all gotten to everyone yet, so not everyone's seen it yet, but by the time this comes out, this recording is live. I think a lot of people will have seen it by then. So I were recovered from the Arnold. I'm over the Arnold flu. I definitely got the Arnold flu to a certain degree. I wasn't overly sick, but I just did not feel all that well. For me, that's what I'm getting right now, but it's definitely coming from my kids. Man, I actually had trouble sleeping last night. The mucus throat thing, God, it is just not pleasant right now in our house. Yeah, I just get run down from all the not sleeping and all the traveling.

And then once we get home from the Arnold, it still takes me many, like it takes me a week to get all the mass dynamics, inventory and merchandise back to where it goes and counted in inventory and things put away. And that is all done now. So it's, that's such a relief when that's a, that's over for the year that I'm like,

ah, yes, stability. A little bit of breathing room. Yeah. And I can actually like pack order. Yeah. That's the other thing. Like when we, when we get back, stability once again a little bit of breathing room yeah and i can actually like pack order yeah that's the other thing like when we when we get back there's a lot of orders that i have to fulfill

because i haven't been filling them for five days so it's just like a perfect storm of massonomic stuff right there and then also life stuff because i there again have not been at my home for almost a week but i am pretty well caught up on that i am no longer sick although i am pretty much immobile at this point because we have not talked about this injury and i also have a uh theory that goes along with this so first first bring me up to speed on what the hell happened here tanner yeah i had a i had a uh some joking, a quite horrific injury. Certainly the most, I've done, I've had a few lifting injuries over the year where I've torn my ACL and my meniscus.

You know, I tore my bicep, flipping a tire. Yeah. I had surgery. I didn't have surgery on the bicep. I did have surgery on the ACL. And then just other like more moderate things. You know, I, whatever I could go down the list. That's not what this is about.

Yeah. Yeah. Stuff like that. But this was the most painful thing that's ever happened to me as far as an injury like that. By far, I dislocated my ankle. Oh, you actually dislocated it. Yeah.

I dislocated my ankle oh you actually dislocated it yeah i dislocated my ankle it was uh um actually what happened is well i was i was playing basketball which everyone most people could guess it was dune ball related and it was almost not a matter of if something like this would happen but when and um well the when was thursday this last th, and we'd been playing for like an hour, hour and a half already, and I do not have the ability to ever stop, even when it's a good time to stop. And it's like being out at the bar and everyone says, oh, let's just have one more.

I can't stop this good time. Yeah, and then like you don't want to stop when you're at the bar. It's also like playing noon ball. I really am not, don't have to stop when you're at the bar it's also like um playing noon ball i really am not don't have a good i don't have a good uh internal ability to shut it down even when i'm like i'm probably more as fatigued as i need to get and stuff but it's just too fun so i don't want to quit so we play one more and about like 30 seconds into that one more that's i was just about walking to the locker room to be done for the day and then about 30 seconds into playing one last final one uh this happened and it wasn't uh you'd think i've sprained my ankle in basketball

at least 10 times in my life like i've my ankles were not you know they did not get made in a way that's great for basketball like my connective tissues on that and i've sprained my ankles a lot of times but this is a lot worse than and i've sprained my ankles a lot of times but this is a lot worse than and i've had some really bad ankle sprains but still nothing quite like this uh i was and it wasn't like jumping and landing on someone's foot oh that's what usually happens i was i almost kind of blacked out of what even exactly happened but i was just like making like a backdoor cut underneath the hoop and someone threw a pass like let a bounce pass in front of me and it was just a little far out in front of me and i just took like

i was running and i took like an uh an extended fast step and i just like stepped on the side of my foot really and it uh and if you would have watched it it would have looked like somebody shot me you know when people do those sniper videos like that's how hard I went down and I was immediately cursing. Like I was, it wasn't like, ah, I rolled my ankle. It was like, holy shit. Like what happened here? You know, something is is bad and uh i was on my back and looked at my foot for the first time my leg was going straight and my my foot was still angled in at like 45 degrees oh yeah and it was like um it almost put me in a little bit of shock because it looked exactly like when you see on TV when somebody when their leg is yeah when their leg is that your first thought is I broke something oh immediately actually my first thought is like oh my god there has to be a bone sticking

out of my body somewhere like like that's how bad it was and I lifted my leg towards my initial reaction was like I guess you put this like you try to do something here so I lifted my knee towards my chest like you do like a if you're laying on your back and do any chest and then like started to reach towards my foot and uh like I just barely got my hands on my foot. Like I just barely touched it. And I don't know, it must've been from like flexing my leg, you know, and like moving it or something,

but like, I just barely touched my foot and it went like, and popped back into place. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So there was a guy really been in some weird alignment where it's just hanging on.

Yeah. And there was a guy that, you know, one of the guys that i was playing with that was like there about ready to help me up and i was just in a little bit of shock from that and i just was i think i said something like holy shit did you see that and he was just like he looked white as a ghost which i probably also was and he was just like yeah and then he just like just said yeah and kind of stopped. And I had someone run and grab my stuff from the locker room,

and I tried to stand on it, and I'm like, I can hop away on this right now. It doesn't hurt that bad yet, but I was still just thinking something was going to be feeling horrible, and I wouldn't know when they were going to be able to drag me out. So I just hopped to my vehicle right away and had him bring me my stuff. And what foot is this? My left. Oh, okay.

And I went directly to the hospital from there and got an x-ray immediately. And, uh, even at the hospital, even after it was popped back in, I'm, it was hurting quite bad. And I was just convinced that something was, has to be broken. And, um, the doctor came in after the x-rays and he's like, well, I suppose you're wondering if it's broken or not. I'm like, well, yeah, that's definitely what I'm curious about. And he's like, well, nothing's broken. You know, he's like, typically, most of the time, if there's a dislocation, there's fractures and breaks and stuff. But in your case, nothing is broken. So it is just like an extreme sprain of the ligaments in there.

And it is a bad one like i like i've said i've had a lot of sprains before but my leg is swollen like halfway to my knee from my foot up your shins oh yeah like like literally halfway to my knee and then to the tips of my toes and that's like my my five toes are today are purple the the picture you had yeah your foot is so fat the proportions i feel like i'm looking at like one of my kids feet because yeah it makes your foot your foot is just so fat it doesn't it looks like your foot is only a couple inches long it's not how a foot should look oh yeah and that's uh the swelling i think is going down a little bit but the purpleness is just going up every day.

And like today, all five of my toes are like purple, like eats, you know, and like it's purple. Like I said, up my up my shin, you know, like halfway up my shin. So you might have a couple of weeks at this still. Yeah, it's it's getting like I mean, it's all relative but it is uh it is getting better daily at least i would say yesterday today didn't seem that much better but prior to that every day it was getting a little bit better where i was feeling a little bit more mobile he said you wanted to put me in a boot and we talked talked about what the whys of it would go in a boot and stuff like that and i'm like well that doesn't seem like anything i'm worried about and i don't

want one and i'm not going to wear it so do not give me the boot and i like that. And I'm like, well, that doesn't seem like anything I'm worried about and I don't want one and I'm not going to wear it. So do not give me the boot. And I have this brace that I wear most of the time during the day, but I mean, I can walk around without, it's just like protective at this point to make sure I don't roll it back over or something. Wow. I can't imagine the pain if I was to roll my ankle for it right now. Oh my God.

Imagine the pain if I was to roll my ankle for it right now. Oh my God. Cut my leg off. Yeah. Just, just kill me on the court now. I'm done. Yes. Wow. Okay.

So does this put a stop to noon ball for a while? Do you see yourself making a return in the next couple of months? It just, it puts the stop as far as like, I literally can't run for probably, I'm curious. I don't know. And actually I went to the gym the next day and did upper body. And then I was in the gym on Sunday and I did stiff legged deadlifts with 315. And the stability of standing there is really no problem. I definitely can't do a squat right now.

And I can't even do a regular deadlift yet because the biggest reason is I cannot push my knee forward at all because my ankle walls yeah like I just it's not possible like I my ankle will not bend like that right now so um I'm curious by this next weekend if I can kind of do a semi-normal deadlift that's kind of my expectation and then from there just be slowly doing you know I, even now I'm working on things, just trying to get some movement in my ankle and then eventually like flexion to be able to, you know, have forward knee travel. And then, then I would be able to squat again, but I will, we've, we've had a heavy thought and discussion around the house on it. And I, I will play basketball again more at first. I was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't do that anymore. But then, you know, actually someone said something to me that made

me think about it in a different light too. I won't name any names, but said something, you know, a guy even actually a little bit younger than me, not a gym member or anything like that. Nobody that would be relevant to this podcast, but made the comment yeah that's why i don't do stuff like that and this guy looks like he's you know he's 35 and he looks like he's almost 50 uh for a number of reasons and i'm like yes that uh that really that drives home. Because my talk that we had already had about it is a lot of the stuff I like to do either has hurt me or just has a high potential to hurt me. But that's also physical activity in general. Right. Right.

That's true. But it's stuff that I enjoy. So, like, I could take the approach, that's why I don't do that. But I'm not going to do that. You know, like if I was really into, I guess, downhill skiing is something we talk about. I don't like skiing, so I have no desire to do that because I don't like it. But if I did, I'd still do it right now. You know what I'm saying?

And you know, like if you're doing skiing or snowboarding, which I like to snowboard, you just know that injury is like just always on the horizon you know right like if you go almost not if but when you go a season and nothing happens you're just like i guess i was just really lucky this year nothing happened to me right right um so i'll probably i'll ease back into that certainly like i'm not in a row i'm not going to do it until my ankle feels like it's up to it. But once my ankle is up to it and I'll probably wear a brace on my ankle for a while and see how that goes to be just because I don't want to do the same thing to the same one just because it's so damn painful. But yeah,

I'll eventually get back to it because, because it's fun. And I'm like, I can't not do the physical things that I think are fun. I mean, it's just like lifting. It is. I tore my ACL and my bicep, both lifting, but has that stopped me from lifting? No. And you know, never would because I'm not going to stop doing the things within reason. You know, if it was like causing, I'm not like, I would do this no matter what. Till the day I die.

Like if it's, I don't care if it's hurting my family, you know, like within reason, like things that just bring me joy and the risk is possibly injuring myself. I would continue to do those. But part of it was when that guy said like, oh yeah, that's why I don't do that stuff. And I'm like, hmm, I don't want to be like that. That's a tough way to live. Did you, when you were hobbling out of the gym, did you turn around and look at everyone

before you left and said, I'm getting too old for this shit. I'm getting too damn old for this shit. Is that on any videos from Arnold? I kept saying that, but I don't know if it made it in any video. You said it like a million times at the Arnold every night in the hotel about five times, every time after a long drive and we'd stand up, you were, you were saying it more and more actually as the trip went on. Yeah. I was

feeling it more and more too. Uh, I was, I mean, that is a real thing though. Like this injury or anything like the getting older doesn't make it any easier, and I imagine the way that my body handles this, it's a little rougher than it would have been 15 years ago, too. I am getting too old for this shit, but I'm not going to stop doing this shit. Just like the Arnold, I am getting too old for that shit, too, but I'm also not going to stop doing that shit. Yes.

Okay, now I have a little theory on something here, Tanner. What day of the week did this happen on? Thursday. Thursday. Approximately noon. Well, more like 1 p.m. I mean, I don't want to throw anything out there, but is it coincidence that eight days after you shake Ryan from Iowa's hand,

you have a catastrophic ankle injury? I mean, it's causation correlation here. Did you ever think of that? It's not like his thing isn't one of those things. It's not like a communicable disease, is it? I'm almost wondering because I've kind of been on edge a little bit thinking, am I going to get hurt? Like I also shook Ryan's hand.

Am I in trouble? I'm slightly worried. It's like almost like, I don't know if this is from a Ghostbusters movie or what kind of movie this would be, but it's almost like something inside. Oh, like Space Jam almost, where it transfers from one person's body. He got rid of it. He's been the host of this thing. He passed it on to you.

Yes, finally. He wanted to eat lunch with us so bad because it was all a plan for him to transfer his injury thing that's inside of his body to us. I'm just, I don't, you know, and maybe we got lucky. Maybe I got lucky, I should say, and you're the one that caught it and I'll be in the clear. Right, he shook my hand first or something. It's something that has been on my mind lately. Yeah, there could be merit to that.

I'm concerned that you could be right. I picture it like the Space Jam thing, though, almost. Like there was a thing that left his body and came into mine, but I didn't know it at the time. And now you're the victim. But I guess on the bright side, though, wasn't it last year after the Arnold you found out you had been diagnosed with gout?

I completely forgot about that until they brought it up in the Discord. I know. I was actually thinking about, why were we talking about gout? All this gout talk. And then I remembered, oh yes, yes. I've never had that again either since that, which I was kind of like, oh God, is this going to be a thing I have to deal with

every month or something? Or after every Arnold? I think the Arnold is the perfect storm of overuse, underrest, bad diet, dehydration, alcohol consumption. But that did not actually get me this year. You could argue maybe my body being in a more fatigued state in general, like could that have increased the likelihood of me injuring myself?

I suppose that's true. And the Ryan thing too. Yeah. And the Ryan thing. I mean, let's be honest that's the number one culprit here we know what he's up to yes uh so now i gotta get get it back into shape though just in case this summer if any strongman competitions come up or anything i'd like to be ready for them just in case they come up this you know in july or something so it's it's a smart

move you know just in case something happens so i guess i just get a little uh more r and r in the meantime yes super state of super recovery you'll be i'm just i feel like i'm just in the you know i'm just going to come back bad bigger and badder and better than ever that's how that works right it it's exactly how it works okay that's what i thought you'll be just twice as strong as pre-injury you you didn't get injured did you uh no not yet i'm knocking on wood while i say that though uh well i just use this said it post arnold injuries so i was like well i saw your i saw your leg and then i was also my other question was the gout thing, if you had any gout. Oh, no gout.

But also, like, afflicted my foot in a very similar way. That's when I didn't know. That's what gout felt like. It felt like my ankle was broken. Oh, really? Yeah, that's actually, yeah, it felt very similar for, like, a day, although this actual almost broken ankle is taking a lot longer to feel normal. Like when the gout went away, I was like, ah, I'm a million dollars again.

And this is like, ah. I've been cured. Yeah. It's a miracle. It's like, oh, sweet. That went from debilitating to nothing. And this seems to be a little bit more gradual than that. It is nice.

Ryan did say in the Discord that he'll wear gloves to the lift, to prevent future infections to anyone else. Probably a smart move. Other people catching this. You know what I would like to see some other people catching, though? Some supplements from Build Fast Formula. You can check them out at buildfastformula.com and then when you go to their collection of supplements you'll see their vasoblitz which is their dual nitric oxide support supplement they've got their full blitz which is their fully loaded

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And I was. I was wearing my Nike up-tempo. But the interesting point, several people have brought that up. And prior to this even, you know, I think it's maybe a bit of a misnomer that people have thought that high top shoes actually prevent ankle injuries in any way, because the more current research tends to suggest that that is false. Oh, does it say otherwise? Yeah. That, uh, uh, high top shoes, um, possibly provide almost no protection in that and may also like decrease athletic, uh, ability. It's, you know, it's, it's enough to like decrease some,

to make some negatives, but not really create positives in the form of protection. Okay. Well then maybe you have to ditch the high tops, get to something, get to something. I can't guess that. I'm a, I'm a definitely a big high top guy. So that would, I would never change that

even if they don't protect the ankles. But I am not a doctor of course, but I guess a simple Google search could maybe tell me something about that. But that's what I've at least heard from, I've heard people say that, that I think no more than I do. And I believe that that's maybe possibly true. Someone could fact check me and find out that I'm wrong, that high tops actually do do something.

We have iPhone in the waiting room. Do you think that that could be our guy? That could be. I mean, it's right on time. Let me see if I can verify that he actually uses an iPhone even. That's actually a good point. He does use an iPhone. Okay.

Then we are going to get him in here. Kick everyone out. Yep, they're out. Now, and. All right, Big CT. Get him in there. Kick everyone out. Yep, they're out now. And. All right, Big CT, we're beyond excited to get you on the Mastodonomics podcast. This is one of those ones that I've been probably hoping for for years. It's going to be a lot of fun.

We've got a lot of questions for you. You want to pick your brain on some stuff. And you've been an icon in the industry. I probably don't need to go over all your resume that much because everyone that's listening already knows who you are and everything but i would just say we are pumped uh to get you on here and we're happy to have a few minutes of your time well i'm happy to be here master now who picked that name that's tanner i guess that was me it was a long time ago i didn't know if i knew what i was doing at the time but

it's uh it's definitely it's nobody we don't have to worry about anyone trying to steal our name. I think it's pretty damn cool, man. Yeah, yeah. No, so that's Massanomics. We actually got to meet you here at the Arnold just a little bit ago, and it looks like you made it home from there, huh? Yeah, I did. And were you doing some strict curl stuff?

I mean, were you judging or were you just making an appearance there? What were you doing? Actually, what happened is Strict Curl Nation seen fit to bring me there and pay tribute to the old man as being the oldest living strict curler. Is that a fact? Is that a fact for what you know though are you the oldest oldest strict curler out there right now um no i'm definitely a big curler because you know i entered a event and there was people there when i got there so i cannot be the old man well that's that's fair i suppose um some of our first well obviously our first

introduction to you was really early youtube and you made this big splash on youtube when most of us really didn't know what youtube was hardly almost at this point in time or if we did it sure as hell isn't what it is today obviously and. And the first, I don't know, you tell me if this was the first video, but that first one, I remember this was perfect timing for me close to 15 years ago when I was just really getting into lifting. And this video I found, it was the strongest man you've never heard of. That was that first one I came across, the strongest man you've never heard of saw that and it was like as close to life-changing as like just like a motivational youtube lifting video could be was that the original one that was the first that was absolutely the first and in that you know i had no idea what youtube was when i made that video myself so you know i came out i

asked them the same question i asked you guys before I came on the podcast was, can I be myself? That's always my first question. Uh, because, you know, I had been in the early days, I had been, uh, doing videos or broadcast and they, i was extremely censored i could not be myself and uh that i hate so as long as i can be myself i'm cool yeah so they kind of they they they said uh yeah we'll do it and then was it shortly after that that you started your own youtube channel then too like how long yeah yeah yeah and so yeah i came uh arash babu had a youtube channel called strength project that's my grandson hey buddy and uh he he got me on his youtube channel first and then i thank you then i decided to start my own short gap yeah so thank you and how did that first

video come about? I mean, did this guy, did he just, was he a training partner? Did he know about you? Or what started that even? Well, he was training at the same gym. And he already had this, like I said, he had a YouTube channel. And it was called Strength Project. And they were into calisthenics.

strength project and they were into calisthenics and he'd be over there training uh mike machine big rob and bulo and my son samson i was doing a lot of cussing and he wanted to see what all the hustle was about and he said hey would you like to be on youtube and i said what the fuck is youtube uh and the rest is kind of history but that video i'm not just saying that because you're on the podcast or anything right now that video was a big deal for me at the time actually uh i you're in the video you're wearing this corvette shirt and at the time i didn't even care about corvettes i went out and bought that shirt just because and i still have that corvette that same gray corvette shirt to this day just because I saw you wearing it in that video. And I was like, ah, this is, this just is a cool feel to it. And I just thought it was, I just, uh, I just loved it at the time.

Oh man. And now you've got a Corvette, right? I don't have a Corvette, but we got, we've got some vehicle talk actually. Let's, uh, we'll jump back to some of this lifting stuff, but as long as we're talking about classic vehicles, let's talk about something here. We know you're a classic car guy. Absolutely. We're from South Dakota. That's where Mount Rushmore is,

and we like to talk about Mount Rushmore a lot. So what we want to know is your Mount Rushmore, so kind of your top four classic cars? You know, it can either be ones in your collection or just like year and model. Like what are your top four that are the top dogs for you? Man, of course, the 63 split window Corvette. 69, it's hard. 68, uh, 69. It's hard.

68, 69. I go back and forth, but 69 Dodge Charger. Um, cause I think my dad, that's, you know, he had one that was the first muscle car ever experienced. And that kind of did it, you know, for the muscle car. Cause I really wanted that. And, uh, let's see, probably, uh, does it have car. I really wanted that. And let's see. Probably, does it have to be American made?

No. Whatever you like. Okay. Well, they are American made, so I'm going to go with a 70 Cuda and a 70 Challenger, man. Okay. So kind of a Mopar guy. Yeah, yeah.

I love, you know, like I said, my dad bought that 69 Charger brand new and that kind of put the Mopar in my blood, but still my favorite car is Corvettes. Okay.

Okay. So do you have a split window Corvette? I sure do. You've got a few Corvettes, don't you? Yeah, I got four of them. So what year Corvettes do you have 63 uh 65

62 and a 72 okay oh yeah the 72 is that the black one with like the side uh yeah yeah that one's pretty sweet too so too. So do they all get driven? Okay. Say that again, please. Do they all get driven? Rarely, yes. Yeah, I drive at most once a month. So I get to pretty low miles. How many classic vehicles do you have between either running or not running? Or, you know, what do you got?

I got four Corvettes um 72 mighty carlo and uh 72 uh 69 god oh god it's not a dog it's a 72 uh long bed pickup truck is that the four-door pickup you know i sold that one oh that four-door one looks i saw you talking about that somewhere and i didn't even know they made those at that point in time that was like an early 60s and that that thing looked pretty sweet yeah i got rid of it yeah so what right the ones that i got now i'm not getting rid of so what's the pickup that you've got now 69 uh, uh, C10. Oh, you're talking, I've got, you're talking to 69 C10. All right. Yeah. I've got, uh, I've got a 69 C10, uh, long bed, uh, with the three 50 in it and stuff. So absolutely. So, you know, how cool it is. Oh, I love it. Actually we it's, uh,

I, I think I legally have to say it's my wife's. That's how she let me get it. So we have to call it my wife's pickup. But I've never had a, you know, it's my first older vehicle like that that I bought. And just working on it and messing with it and driving around, you know, I kind of love every bit of it so far. Grandpa's trying to do an interview. Yeah. Fall in love with him man I'd rather I told somebody

I'd rather And I mean this I'd rather wait on the side of the road In my 69 pickup For AAA to come get me a towed And a driver brand new Yep I mean that

Yeah But it never fails It's a very reliable vehicle That's right Do you have anything that So I mean you got a lot, but is there anything out there that if it came up, you feel like you have to have that you don't have yet in the collection? That's a Charger, the Cuda, and the Challenger. I want one of those. Yeah. And all those things might not be bad also.

Yeah. Yeah, I can blame you for that one then too. Okay. Yeah. What about, do you like, what's your daily driver then though? I mean, I assume it's not any of those then, or is it any of those? Yeah. Most of the time, if I'm driving something, I'll be in that pickup truck. Okay.

Nice. Yeah. That's awesome. You got room for stuff. Yeah stuff throw shit in the bag you know go around i don't need it works good for hauling around weights oh yeah definitely okay um one thing i was thinking you know people like me you inspired a lot of people going back 10, 15 years and even now today. Kind of wondering when you first got into it, was there anyone like that that kind of first inspired you, whether it was directly with the lifting or even outside of that? Was there anyone that really motivated you when you got your first start?

got your first start well not from social media but uh craig munson you know underground superhero was the guy that i you know most admired as a youngster coming up uh big craig he was like you know lord of the streets man gang member and he was fucking huge he was masternomics in in person in the flesh yes okay and then uh at your biggest i mean you uh at your biggest was was he were you as big as he was then when you got up to your biggest because you were a pretty large man yeah that was the goal that was the goal to try to be as big as peg munson man because when i first seen him i was walking around about 255 pounds and 21 inch arms thinking i'm pretty big thinking i was doing something and i seen craig and i just my notion of big just went out the window i said what the fuck i felt like i didn't even lift weights at all so at my largest i was 325 pounds 24 and a half inch arms so i wouldn't i was close being big

craig was running neck and neck yeah yeah so you said 24 and a half inch arms that's crazy yeah uh what what was your strict curl record then at that time 225 pounds which okay it doesn't sound like very much but when you got to keep your head back and butt against the wall it makes a big difference yeah i mean people are there's there's nobody blowing that out of the water now, is there? I mean, that number hasn't greatly gone up since then, has it? Or, like, what's the world record now? Well, I think it's about 250-something now. Okay. Done by a guy in Russia, an arm wrestler named Saplinkov.

I believe his name is Saplinkov. Okay. He broke it about, it's probably been eight, nine years ago, but it lasted, you know, almost 30 years before he broke it. Yeah. Especially in this day and age when it seems like records are falling all the time. Yeah. That's a long-standing record.

Yeah, I was shocked that he lasted that long. It seems like strict curling is getting kind of popular right now, too. I don't know if it's just from seeing it from you or who all I see it from, but it just seems like Jen Thompson's a power lifter we've followed for a long time. She was in on it this year. It just seems like I see more people doing it and more people talking about it than 10 years ago. Yeah, it's having a resurgence, and it's coming back, and it's more popular than ever now. They have their own stage there at the Arnold. resurgence uh and it's coming back it's more popular than ever now you know they had the

their own stage there at the arnold they've had it for a couple years two or three years now and uh you know at the mr america and it's really more popular than ever and i'm just happy that out of my old ass is still here to witness it yeah yeah. Yeah, Jen did something, you know, incredible. She walked into her first street curl meet, set an all-time world record in her weight class, and she's got some competition, though. She's not just doing it for herself. There's some other strong ladies out there, too.

Yeah, that's cool. You talked about, you know, some of your inspiration there and talked about them, but I just wondered, you've been in the gym a lot over a lot of years. You trained with a lot of big dudes and stuff. Is there any other lifters that stick out to you as just some of the biggest, baddest dudes that you've trained with over the years? Any other names that really stick out to you from your time in the gym? really uh stick out to you from the your time man you know some of the biggest strongest rascals on the planet uh iron bibby for one uh he's a strong man athlete but before he became a strong man athlete you know he came over and stayed with me he uh lived with me for quite a while really i didn't know that yeah yeah and yeah. And B.B., I was telling people back then

that B.B. was going to be a sensational strongman if he ever decided to compete. He's still going to win. I predict that B.B.'s going to win the overall. He already has a long press record, but he's going to win the overall World's Strongest Man title before it's over with.

How big a round do you think his upper arms are? 26? Yeah, they are ridiculous. That is nuts. Yeah. What country is he from? I forget now. He's from Africa,

but Kikafaso. It's a small, not small, but it's a region in Africa. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll be, I'll love to see him compete more. Anytime he's on the roster, you know, people get excited about seeing what he's going to do because he's obviously a freak of nature, you know, just has a presence, just the way,

yeah. The way it looks even, it's just, it's not normal. Yeah, yeah. And for somebody that big to be turning cartwheels and stuff is, you know, unheard of. Yeah. Yeah, and then you got guys even of more recent, you know, training with, like, Larry Wheels, TD Smash, Julius Maddox. And, you know, Julius, I know you've very big bencher yourself in the day

obviously and been around a lot of big benchers but Julius is pretty rare you know you don't see anyone like that walking around very often that does what he does either yeah ask mommy what mommy say

yes okay go ahead go ahead Yeah, ask mommy. What mommy say? Yes. Okay, go ahead. Can I not open the fridge? Okay, well, grandpa's doing a podcast right now, so you have to get mommy or grandma to do it.

Okay? All right. Okay, yeah, Julius is hands down the strongest raw bench presser I have ever witnessed. And that's saying a whole lot, man, because I've seen a lot of strong dudes, you know, have competed against some of the best dudes in the world in my heyday. And I would love to see James james henderson if james henderson in his prime

against hollywood henderson against julius maddox in his prime as uh julius has you know eclipsed uh henderson's record but i think as hollywood didn't have a have no competition yeah right right no no one to push him any farther than he went. I was trying, but he was the king. Yeah. I would love to see them two go at it head to head. Yeah, I would agree that. TD's fast also, though. TD and a full meet, 700 pounds and a full meet.

Yeah, that's going to be hard to beat right there and Larry Wills is just a fucking freak he looks like a Mr. Olympia competitor and lifting numbers that can hang with any power lifter

so he's just a freaking nature man yes he is Larry had that streak. I mean, we talked about it on this podcast where it felt like every month it was Larry broke this record, this record. I mean, he was just on a tear for like a year straight. Yeah, yeah, and he's still strong as shit. Yes, he is.

Yeah. It's still your motherfucking set. Do you know when you said that the first time or what that, you know, did you say it the first time? You're like, yep, that's something. Like, did that stick right away or what's the origin of that? Yeah, the origin of that, I'm training with Big Rob. You know, I always had that mindset, but the first time we ever put it into words, I'm training with my training partner, Big Rob did it, and Rob was having a particularly

grueling training session and Rob turns away and goes, he said, hey, I'll be right back. He goes and he throws up and he comes back and he said, hey Pop, I had to throw up and I'm like, look, okay, wipe all

that shit off your mouth and it's still motherfucking sick so don't think just because you throw it up you're just gonna get out of this shit so that's that was the first time it was said uh in training i had no idea that it would become a thing it was just you know just couple of training parties talking shit. Yeah. And now you couldn't say that to a single person in the gym around almost the world and them not know where that comes from. And, you know, it's just such a common phrase you just hear it in the gym all the time. Yeah. You know, it's so common. I looked at this street interpretation,

and it's supposed to tell you what street language is and where it originated, and it had I-S-Y-M-F-S on there. And they said, OK, it means the state of the set, but they didn't say who started the shit. Yeah, it means if you haven't completed your set and weightlifting that uh no matter what you still have to complete yourself i'm like hey can i get a little credit here but also though that is awesome that at at this day that abbreviation can exist which is just random letters and people can know like the saying has gotten so big

that people can see that abbreviation and it means something to them. Yeah. That's wild. I agree. What do you have? You had a lot of, we talked about some of these YouTube videos too that went off so popular. Do you have a favorite one personally that you loved thought that you loved that uh you did man uh that's hard to um i command you to grow is up there

and i think that's submitted me as a certified nut for talking to his biceps but the the workouts with uh terry cruz uh michael Hearn. I had a group of professional wrestlers come in. Some of the workout videos are also very high on my list. But Hulk Smash is actually my all-time viewed video. That's the most popular video I ever did was Hulk Smash. Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, I get off the plane in Russia and they're wearing Hulk mask and everybody's like Hulk smash, Hulk smash, Middle East,

Hulk smash, Hulk smash. I'm like, wow, this thing is pretty popular. Yes. You know, kind of about that and just, uh, the way you are, you know, maybe in some of the videos and even just really just the way you speak and are. I know you've said before your dad was a preacher. You know, do you feel like you get some of that from him? Like the way you speak and the way you talk? Like, is that what it, cause it's almost, I mean, you're not necessarily preaching a sermon, but it kind of feels like that in a different way. You know, do you think there's some similarity there? I think it's impossible to be raised by a preacher and not have some of that rub off on you.

So I absolutely, absolutely think that it's part, a part preacher, part drill sergeant and part Raven fucking lunatic. That's how I described it yeah uh yeah that makes sense were you in the army then is that right or okay so uh had you been lifting yet when you were in the army i started lifting when i was 10 years old so yeah in the army i was 18 so i had eight years lifting before i went in the Army when I was 18. So I had eight years of lifting before I went in the Army. Yeah. So you were probably basic training and stuff like that was no big deal at that point in time. Yeah, it was no big deal physically because, you know,

my dad had well prepared me for the Army before I got in the Army because he was a soldier himself. So, you know, I was yes sir and no sir in my whole life so when i got there that was no big deal yeah um the pig iron can you explain what pig iron is for anyone that doesn't doesn't maybe already know what pig iron is absolutely and that's for you younger generation people yeah the simplest uh description is anytime you see a plate with a one-inch hole, one-inch hole in it, it's a pig iron plate. Olympic plates all have two-inch holes. So you see a one-inch hole and it's old, rusty, and beat up,

most likely it's going to be pig iron. And a lot of times the weights are different than what people are used to too aren't they oh most definitely a pig iron plate uh if you don't know i mean they're a lot smaller in diameter than the olympic plates but they're much denser and thicker and the bars are usually five or six feet bars when olympic bar is a seven foot bar so pig iron plates make the weight much closer and it'll feel heavier being closer to you uh you don't you don't have you can't grip way way out wide with a five you know five foot bar it's going to feel denser and heavier and pig iron plates are

notorious for being inaccurate so you may have a 25 stamped on the side of the plate it might be 28 pounds 27 you know it's you know whatever the fuck you know we always looked at it like whatever it is we're gonna pick it up so right and you've got uh at iron addicts and just otherwise maybe your backyard gym and stuff i've seen you've got some cool older you know vintage whatever you want to call it equipment and i've i know you've been on uh rob's podcast before vintage weights and he's a big vintage weight so we've had him on before and i've over the last few years i've gotten into getting a lot more older weights you know know, I've got older York roundhead dumbbells and some York deep dish plates and stuff like that. And I just, some of that stuff, just the longer I go, the

cooler and cooler, some of that stuff seems to me. Uh, do you have a favorite piece of like vintage equipment? I've seen, I got a couple of things, at least one I want to ask you about, but is there anything that sticks out to you that you've got that you really like? Well, uh, Rob, that, that, that was, you mentioned him. He gave me a very hard to find seven foot pig iron bar by York. Uh, York made a seven foot bar and you can use that on your Olympic bench or a regular pig iron bench press which is a

lot narrow more narrow than a regular bench press but uh he gave me one of those they're super hard to find and i appreciate the hell out of it rob just in case you're looking but as far as curl curl bars criterion bar yeah you know i don't own any stocking criterion he's not paying me to say anything no criterion curl bar is hands down the best piece of uh apparatus for growing biceps i have ever seen he has the attachment that you can use on your regular machine pulleys and i have the bar which he made especially for me because it's a pig iron bar it's one inch diameter and I asked for that because I'm old school like that and for anyone that doesn't know what it is it's got two handles on the bar and they are free to rotate so as you as you come up

or down you can you know turn your hands in turn them out you know as as you're So as you come up or down, you can, you know, turn your hands in, turn them out, you know, as you're going, as you're performing the curl. And that's the one I particularly wanted to ask you about is because that looks like a pretty sweet bar. It is. It is. You can't have mine. But he's coming out with some new ones real soon. Real soon. Okay. So we'll be on the lookout for that. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Tommy, should we do underrated, overrated?

I think we should, yes. Okay. All right. We did Mount Rushmore. Now we've got this other little game we play with everyone on the show, and it's just overrated and underrated. So we've got a list of topics that are just handpicked for C.T. Fletcher, and you've got to decide if each one is either overrated or underrated. We've got a list of topics that are just hand-picked for C.T. Fletcher. You've got to decide if each one is either

overrated or underrated. You can say whatever you want about it, but you can't ride the line. You've got to say if it's over or under. First one, overrated or underrated mailmen. Mailmen? They're pretty much

underrated. That's because i was working at the post office for fucking 28 years man so i get mail they are highly underrated did you ever have any big dog run-ins as a mailman yeah i wasn't a carrier i worked okay driving forklifts and stuff okay okay yeah okay uh overrated or underrated bruce lee oh man uh i'm gonna say and he's highly rated by everyone so i'm gonna say underrated anyway because you know uh of what real fighters had to say about him uh joe lewis heavyweight champ back then said that bruce lee was the real deal and he was you know a fighter fighter uh so people that actually fought if they have good things to say about bruce lee as a fighter then he's underrated because a lot of people just think he's a movie star but he can fight and martial arts was one one of your first things you were into, wasn't it?

Absolutely. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I keep getting my head beat in, but I loved it. So were you, I mean, would you keep up on all those movies? Were you watching everything he was coming out with? Absolutely. Oh man, a Bruce Lee movie came on. I was flying to the stream.

Yeah, me and my brother, my older brother Walt. We loved Bruce Lee, man. I wanted to be Bruce Lee when I was, you know, in school. Well, and you were into karate then, too. I mean, you practiced karate then, too, didn't you? Yeah, I did it the whole time I was in the military. Okay.

Do you think, you know, if you were born 30 years later say you know for as big as mma is today do you think that could you have seen that been something that you would have got into oh i would have had to try it i would have had because uh you know that's uh it's the most macho thing going around so yeah you know you got to get him tried, but it's just, it's an ordeal. I mean, if you see somebody in the UFC, that's a bad motherfucker. He had to go through a lot just to get

to that stage, you know, because there's a whole plethora of motherfuckers that's practicing martial arts, but they ain't in the UFC. There's a whole lot of guys that are training every day. You go to the dojos and gyms, and they're full. But, you know, it's not everybody's on the UFC

roster, so those guys get a ton of respect. Whether they fucking win or lose, they had the balls to step in there in a cage with another motherfucker and try to knock his fucking head off. So they get my respect, man. I think anybody who's trained to fight uh would give uh ufc fighters any fighters a ton of respect because

it's not an easy job right okay overrated or underrated the pontiac gto oh the goat yeah the goat yeah it's uh how can it be underrated because it gets quite a bit of of praise but maybe underrated because it's not i don't think on the status uh of a god's charger uh you know super bird and even now with pontiac gone, I feel like people maybe forget about Pontiac even more now. They don't have that thing to keep it. It's not giving a Shelby Mustang. It's not on that level. And I don't

know if it ever will be, so I'm going to say underrated on me. The other one I was thinking about, how do you feel about Chevelles? I personally don't like them. Okay. That's why I was curious, because it's one that didn't come up in our conversation so far. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I've owned a couple, a 70s Chevelle. You know, everybody loves them. you know, it fucking, you know, everybody loves them. But the only reason I'm, you know, not so partial to them just because there's too many fucking me,

too fucking many of them, you know, they're not rare enough for me. Too many to, you know, everybody's favorite fucking cars. That's good okay uh what's your favorite era of corvette you know what what is uh it's like you're 70 whatever is that a c3 corvette then yeah c3 yeah yeah so what's what's the best I have two C2s. C2s? Is the C2 the split window?

C2 to 67. What's the years again you said? 63 to 67, C2s. Okay. So that is the split window, right? Yeah, split window and, you know, 63 split window, and 67s are probably the rarest vets okay um before i forget you got to send me a picture of your uh 69 c10 i want to see that too so i gotta perfect that's a 69 even so yeah

you go if you go to ct function auto addicts page uh you will see it i got i got it i called it i called my truck hattie b did you name your truck uh well it's like i said it's kind of my wife so she's got a name it really right now is we just call it my wife's pickup so yeah tell your wife she's got to have a name okay i'll tell her okay all right uh overrated or underrated easy e oh man uh i think to anybody that's really into rap and i'm not uh but there's a certain rap artist that i love and easy is damn sure one of maybe never one of my list he'd be on the mount restmore of rap okay okay i didn't know that but i wondered it you know with him being from compton i just i didn't know if you have a you know you kind of like the compton guys or

or not i figured maybe you had an opinion on it one way or another. Yeah, well, Dr. Dre is also a favorite of mine because I know him personally. Plus, he's a competent guy and he's just a bad motherfucker. He's Dr. Dre. Yeah. Okay. All right. Last one, most important one here. It's worth all the marbles, overrated or underrated the the big mac from mcdonald's oh shit it's uh

overrated because you know of the obvious unhealthiness of it but you know it was my favorite food of choice for many years so i i can't talk too much shit about it because you know as uh you know like an alcoholic there used to be i mean a reformed alcoholic saying i'm fucked up and it's no good you know which is true but i feel kind of you know bad condemning it seems like it was my food of preference for so many years and What did the Big Mac diet look like? I mean, what was the number? There might be some people listening that don't know. So what was the McDonald's routine back in the day?

Four Big Macs, four french fries, two apple pies, and goddamn a strawberry fucking malt shake to rinse it rinse it down and i see people you know imitating that shit and i'm like are you crazy you know and but that was just my lunch that was just my lunch for you know 20 years i did 20 some years i did that at the post office i went to the same mcdonald's every day they would have it on the table waiting for me when i got there i didn't so yeah and they were just saying something to me for free they just wanted to see if i could eat it all and did you did you ever once get tired of it like think no this is this i i gotta do something different today you know that's right you know they must put something in them big macs man because no i didn't i didn't get right i think you're right

they put something in there do you ever do you ever eat mcdonald's anymore like do you ever have it at all i have a filet of fish on a case okay no big macs though no more big macs yeah uh yeah so the big mac okay well good news it looks like you passed overrated underrated so that's important do i get a 70s now well everyone's got one you just go to your neighbor they probably got two yeah i don't want this thing yeah uh that's how about uh how about the old camaros what do you think of those I don't want this thing yeah how about the old Camaros

what do you think of those I love them man especially you know the early early 67 oh yeah 67 68 are probably my favorites yeah gotta be a RSS though

right right right yeah I like the old car stuff that's good It's got to be an RSSS though. Right, right, right. Yeah, I like the old car stuff. That's good. Okay. Yeah, well, that's great. How about this? Where, if people, you know, what would be the number one way if people wanted to support CT Fletcher, you know,

if they're listening to this, what do they do? Check out Iron Addicts or your website, or where do you send them, or where do you want them to go? CTFletcher.com, and that will be it for all things. And we're revamping everything. We're coming out with a new program. I do supplements, everything. We're going through everything all new.

So it'll probably be kind of scarce over there right now, but give us a couple of weeks and everything will be back up. Bowman, CZFuture.com. Okay. And if people are coming through, can they get – anyone coming through, can they get a day pass at Iron Addicts? Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yes.

Iron Addicts Gym, Signal Hill, California, which is, you know, same as Long Beach, California. You can go in, get a day pass, and I'm there three, four days a week. But it's hard to say which one. Yeah. You've got a pretty sweet gym out at, outdoor gym at home then, too, don't you, too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Me and my boy go out in the backyard hit the pig iron so yeah all kind of old rusty shit good okay awesome well we really appreciate you coming on this is uh this is fun and like i said kind of a bucket list thing for for us to get you on here this is good stuff massonomics man i love it that's a great name. Thank you guys for having the old man on. Thanks a lot, CT. You better make sure the grandkid got in the refrigerator. Oh, my God. Doing everything possible to make sure that this podcast was fucked up.

We both got little kids, so we're no stranger to the game. Awesome. Thanks, man. Thanks a lot thank you guys see ya vintage classic big mac cool beans right there compton cool beans and cool beans right there compton cool beans and cool beans it's still your motherfucking cool beans wow ct what a guy uh the man the myth the legend that's there's not a lot of people you can say that seriously about but uh that guy you can say that seriously no there's not a lot of people we've had on the podcast before you'd get done and say the man the myth but the legend and you wouldn't be saying it like tongue-in-cheek almost but with ct fletcher that is the man the myth the legend uh you might have to we might have to rethink our conversation we had about chevelles just a couple weeks ago i guess yeah ct's kind

of talking me out of the list yeah um i i love i did not know that he had a 69 c10 that is crazy yes you guys have the same truck. I'm curious what color his is. What did he say the website is? I think he said Iron Auto Addict. Yeah, I think it's an Instagram page, I think. Oh, okay. I believe.

I'm curious what it looks like if it's, you know. Oh, he has a YouTube channel, CT Fletcher's. Oh, only two videos. Okay, so not a whole lot there. All right. So you think it's an Instagram? I want to look quick and see if I can find it just because I want to see what it looks like. So what did he say, like Iron Auto Addicts?

CT Fletcher's Auto Addicts, I believe is what he. I thought he said it was an Instagram page oh auto addicts yeah okay what do we got here see a lot of his corvettes here oh yeah that's got to be it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah had he be yeah it's black it's okay what's the name of the page here it's uh ct auto addicts okay i see now yeah yep so his is is nice looking yeah his is black and white two-tone same front grill of course as mine uh long bed because he's talking about how he he hated long bed trucks because that's all his dad ever had oh and he never wanted to see a long bed again damn his has that cool uh like him well first of all the red

interior which yeah the red interior i remember it's funny how long chevy's had red interiors on their trucks yeah like even what's what's grants like the square bodies or whatever they are yeah i remember having uncles that had the all red interior on those things even yep um but his has like that embossed like like leafing effect to it do you see that in one of these here is that on this? Oh yes. On the door panel. Yeah. Like in the leather and on the,

on the door, the door panel. Yeah. That's a nice pickup. I like that. That's cool. She's a fine looking unit. I like his tailgate too.

His tailgate is a little bit different. Let's see. Yeah. The words what's, what's see. Yeah, the words. What's yours? Does yours have Chevrolet on the tailgate? Yeah, mine just has a big Chevrolet across the back middle, basically. Good stuff.

Glad we got a little C10 talk into the CT Fletcher podcast. I didn't do it earlier, so we should do a little supporting our supporting members. It's a segment where we give back to the people that give to us. We have these group of supporting members that choose to support us. You could also do the same.

You go to massnomics.com slash join. That's how you get in on our mailings that we do a few times a year, like our Hall of Fame mailing that everyone's just receiving now. It's also how you get in, in our discord community. The only way you get in,

in our discord, you can listen live to the podcast. You can get a discount code, a whole bunch of stuff. You get early access to drops, early information on what we go going on. And then in each week, we like to give back through this supporting our supporting members.

So this week I saw big Matt saysney did a push-pull single ply, and he hit a 436 bench and a 555 deadlift. And then his wife, of course, Big Jess Sesney, it was her first ever meet. That's awesome. So congratulations right there. She hit a 105 bench and a 225 deadlift, and they are both signed up for the 2024 Lift Hard Live Easy Classic

right here in western northeast South Dakota. I guess you could say that puts them at frontrunners for strongest couple right off the bat. Oh, that's a good award idea. That's a good award idea. Not a lot of people will be in the running for that one. I wonder if there's any other people that are potentially in the running. It'd be fun if there was a couple other ones.

for that one. I wonder if there's any other people that are potentially in the running. It'd be fun if there was a couple other ones. Nathan and Abby. Oh, yeah. Ryan and Leah Anderson. Are they both signed up? Both in it. And then also the Thomases. So that definitely could be

a triple threat match here. Yeah. Make the award. Needs to happen. It's So that definitely could be. We got a triple threat match here. Yeah. Yeah. So that's. Make the award. Needs to happen. It's official. Write it down.

Live brainstorming session. Strongest couple. Okay. Next big Matthias Cash. Did it meet again? Strong numbers like always for this fella. 600 squat. 363 bench and a 606 deadlift for a 1570 total.

Very nice. Then Big Colton from down there in Crew Falls. He won a belly flop competition on vacation. I think he was in Cancun or somewhere like that. That's prestigious. Then Big Hannah. She was in a strongman comp. She had a clean sweep on all five events at her Strongman competition and qualified for nationals.

Sounds like a supermarket sweep. Have you ever seen that, Tommy, supermarket sweep? I remember the show being on back in the day. I thought it was pretty cool, the idea of going into this grocery store and just cleaning up house. Oh, get all the frozen turkeys. I don't know why I thought that was cool, but that did seem like a really cool show to me

when I was six years old or whatever that was. I agree. I thought that I loved that show. Then last but not least, Big Dutch Matt was the guest this weekend on Paid and Underrated. Well, and maybe we should, did we actually mention the names of our first official Hall of Fame members? That would kind of tie into this.

Actually, yeah, we should mention, that should be, anytime we have new ones, I guess that's a good to mention, right? Yes, so we did mention that Hall of Fame status is awarded at 12 achievements from the achievement card we sent out. And so far, we have had four people reach 12 achievements.

These four people are, and I'm just reading them off on the order on the website here. Is this Tanner, you put these on here. Is this the order that they came in or did you put them all in at kind of the same time? That was the order that they came in, but I'm wondering if we,

is that the way that they should be ordered? Or should they be alphabetical? Or should they be by whichever crew joined first? Well, okay. So that's to be decided. But I'll just read them in the order they're at right now. And so the first one on the list, Big Chris Daminger. Well done.

Matt Fleming. Jen. How do you actually say Jen's last name? b jen b that's actually good and of course keith honeycutt and it is funny tanner you're asking me how to say people's last names it is funny because when we were doing this you know like with any game anything prizes you want it to be where people can get it but you don't want it to be where it's so easy that just everyone gets it because then it's not cool it's it's too obvious and it is funny how these were the exact names that were coming to mind and we're like well

chris would probably be at 12 achievements right away i bet matt would be up there oh yeah jen keith yeah they're probably like those people just come to our mind right away as people that are high achieving individuals. And of course, yes, they were. Someone made the comment, oh, you've because some things are do involve around like coming to events. And that's kind of the whole what I would mention is the whole theme of the whole thing is like this. You have to be really into massonomics. Yeah, it just encourage its additional encouragement to participate more in anything.

And some of those things are in-person events. You know, not everything you could. It's additional encouragement to participate more in anything. And some of those things are in-person events. Not everything. I actually don't know if the math checks out that you could hit 12 without doing any in-person things or not. Maybe that's not possible, but it probably doesn't require many. We have the Arnold. Attend the Arnold. Attend the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic.

Compete the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic, attend Crew Falls. That's four right there. And the gym is one. Oh, and the gym. So five. So, yeah, I mean. But one of those is not in South Dakota, the Arnold, you know, like that. I mean, it is required as an in-person event,

but you could almost slightly get there without ever even. You could get there without ever coming to South Dakota. You could. And also, if you make the trip to South Dakota uh you can pad those numbers in a hurry oh yeah uh but but that's part of the thing it's just like encouraging people to do anything massonomics you know to to be on the one of them is being on the unpaid and underrated podcast you know so it's just further encouraging participation in that as well um But my point was that three of these four people are from the East Coast. I know.

Only one of them is Midwest, and Jen is not particularly close to us. It's not like she's hopping to Aberdeen at a moment's notice. I mean, is it eight hours from Aberdeen? Probably at least. Something like that. So, yeah, it's not exactly close. So that's interesting to see how that, but we have

seen some people actively, you know, someone told, because one of the things is posting a picture on Instagram with a fellow crew member and one of the big jories said, well, I got to make sure I go to the gym

at the same time as Zach this week so I can get a picture with him. There you go. I'm like, oh, that's good. That's encouraging. You know, then it's like just encouraging. And I'm owning a Drink Spotter's one, so I know I saw a Drink Spotter order come in

that was probably tied to that and just some various things there. So I think it's fun encouragement and hopefully everyone has some fun along with it, I think too. Yes. And we didn't, we haven't talked a ton

or we haven't really mentioned it much, but the 15 achievements, you do get the challenge coin and we don't have those in hand yet, but it will be, I was actually not familiar with this term, Tanner, until you brought it up after we left Elite FTS. We got an Elite FTS challenge coin.

And it's just basically a big gold medallion, really is what it is with their logo, their branding on it. And so we'll have some of those being made. And that will definitely be one of those things that if you have one of those, that they will be rare. There will not be many of those things that if you have one of those, uh, that, that they will be rare. There will not be many of those in existence.

Yeah. Those will be few and far between definitely for people to get those. Um, but it'll be also pretty exciting to see the first person that gets it. I like, I think it was big Jeff in the discord said, you know, in July at the lift,

hard, live easy classic, there's probably going to be a lot of people cause they'll be able to knock off like three on the list that are hitting that 12. So we almost need a ceremony. A coin ceremony. Well, it's almost like the existing Hall of Famers need to welcome in all the new ones. In my mind, it's not even us at that point.

It's like, yes, everyone that's... They have the gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a shit. Well, in ours, it's not the jacket. They have the silly pint. So it'll be all the current silly pint members. They welcome in the new member to the hall. I like to think of that scene from The Sopranos where Tony's getting, you know, sworn into the mafia.

It's something similar to that. There's like a blood oath going on here. Right so it's not even really us it's like the now that there's four of them in there like it's their responsibility to uh you know like welcome in the new members to their club i like that yeah that's on them to create their initiation ceremony then. Yeah. We definitely have a lot to talk to, talk about related to the, your, to garage gym progress. I mean,

do we have enough time today to like, Oh boy. I feel like we have like an hour's worth of discussion. Actually. Yes. I could talk about that for so long now. Actually. I think we'll save it.

We'll, I think we'll save it because I could for real. We need, we need an hour. Like we need at least 30 minutes to talk about save it because I could for real talk for an hour. We need at least 30 minutes to talk about that. Yeah, and I don't want to sneak that all in here, but I will say this 100%, and I just mentioned this to you quickly,

that the mindset and the way you look at and approach products, content, all of that stuff is so different when you're actually in the market to buy it. You know, you, I got to see, you have all the stuff in the gym. I got to see it. I got to use it. I got to play with it. I got to everything. And I'm aware of it, but you're just kind of like, well, yeah, I get it. This is good. This one's clearly good. This one's clearly good. This is all good stuff. You know that, but then when you're buying it, you're just in a whole different level of research. And I'm also the type of guy that when I like to buy stuff, I like to research it and know exactly why I'm getting something.

And man, if there's a hobby that tends to that, that caters to those tendencies, it is the gym, home gym market. Absolutely. It is. So yeah, I w yes, that'll be a long long segment i have lots of initial insights and observations that i'm sure lots of other people have these same conclusions and these same things to say i'm sure you do too but yeah let's hold off on that one until next week where we can really go all yeah have you said anything up yet though like i have not said anything up yet okay i have to so you haven anything up yet. Okay. I have to. So you haven't, like, lifted in the garage? Well, the big reason is I'm still kind of waiting.

Me and Grant have a plates thing in the works here. So there's no point in me really setting anything up. It would actually make me more sad to see a gym sitting there with no plates than to see just piles of equipment. So, yeah, right now it's just equipment laying on the ground. Yeah. But I have ordered a bench. I have ordered, yeah, I just won't say anymore.

I won't say anymore. We'll save it for next time. Yeah. Okay. What's this acronym one in here? Oh, Red Hot Chili Peppers, RHCP. Oh, yeah. I never got to talk about it.

I went to, because you went to them. We actually talked about this in the car a little bit on the way to the Arnold but I haven't got to talk about it since I've been back uh oh god well when was that three weeks ago or whenever the hell I went to Arizona it was actually right before the Arnold so it's just gotten missed and everything and I gotta tell you man the Red Hot Chili Peppers concert was so damn good. Like I actually went into that having, I'd kind of,

I'd basically been checked out in the band. For people that don't know the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I didn't like them for most. For anyone that doesn't know, they're this band from California. They sing about California. They've written some hit songs over the years. People have some strong opinions on them.

I've gone full circle on them like multiple times in my life to where growing up, I didn't really care for them. I mean, yes, they were actually really young. I didn't even have an opinion. Like the 90s, I'm 10 years old. Their songs were big. They were on the radio. You heard them. Yeah.

And I was just aware of them. And then a little bit when I got more to high school, I was like over them. I didn't really aware of them. And then a little bit, when I got more to high school, I was like over them. I didn't really care for them. And then it wasn't until I was probably 22, 23, 24. I had some friends that started getting into playing the guitar. And then by that,

they got into red hot chili peppers and then John for Shantae. And then I went down that same path and I got so into them to the point where it was in, I think 2012 or 2011, they played at Bonnaroo i saw them that was the reason i went to bonnaroo because i want to see red hot chili peppers unfortunately at that time they did not have john frusciante in the band as their guitarist he was out at that time and i still stayed a big fan of theirs through probably 2014 2015 and then i started to get

really checked out just because i was i was kind of of over it. Well, John Frasciante comes back into the band a couple of years ago. Even then I didn't pay any attention. I was, I was done with them. I wasn't whatever. And so going into this concert, I was just like, ah, Red Hot Chili Peppers. It'll be fun. But it was more of my wife's idea. Honestly, she's like, let's go see them. And I just had like, yeah, this will be fun. I didn't listen to any Red Hot Chili Peppers songs leading up to the concert. I didn't brush up on anything, and I had fairly low expectations,

and the concert blew my freaking mind. It was so, really what it felt like to me was, hey, we're the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and we're what happens when John Frusciante is not going nuts on the guitar. That is what it felt like. There were so many times, it started, the concert starts with them coming out and it's John and Flea doing their little jam band thing

where they're just going and going. And you know, Chad's playing the drums and it's building for like six minutes. And at one point, my wife, who's not really into guitar music in any way, she does not listen to, like my wife's choice of music is rap caviar on Spotify.

That is her playlist. She's up on what's going on in hip hop. So it's how it's always been. That is her music genre of choice. But she looks over into me like three minutes into this crazy jam session. She's like, what is going on? Cause it was mind blowing to her even.

And right from the get go, I thought this is not what I expected, and I am excited. And that was, the whole show was like that. The whole show was just, all right, here's this song that's, yep, kind of maybe more, just chugging along, nothing crazy. And here comes the predictable solo. And it was just like, what is this solo?

It's just out of a totally different area. And he's just ripping. The whole show was, it was nuts. It was so good. Californication, they're known for that. it's just out of a totally different area and he's just ripping the whole show was it was nuts it was so good californication they're known for that they always do this whole thing where they jam for a little bit in the beginning john and flea and i think that was because i've looked it up on youtube that turned into like this eight minute nine minute song uh and then even there was parts where because the red hot chili peppers love them or hate them you can't deny that they're one of the biggest rock acts of the i mean ever actually less yeah right i mean how many bands

have had that many songs that are that known by people of all ages that was actually another comment we made looking around we're like the age group here is crazy diverse like there's obviously college kids when we went to yes there's obviously college kids and younger people here but there's people here that are clearly much older than me even you know like i would say damn near my parents age and that is how long the redhead chili peppers have been around since the 80s to today so it makes sense but i don't know if i've really ever seen that much of a span at at a at a concert like i agreed i we made that same comment when we went. It was crazy the span of people that are there, but that also speaks to how widely popular they were for how long, you know, for the duration too. songs like the biggest one they didn't play under the bridge i don't know if they played they didn't play that when i went either they did play the only thing they did is that is uh before they

ever even came on the stage they played just like the i don't know if it's all like they just go well no literally just like that's how you know they're coming when the lights are still dark he just went like he just went like you know just like the little and then everyone's like whoa you know just like the little and then everyone's like whoa see for us they did they had this big crazy like orchestra music playing was leading up to the thing but i don't remember maybe it maybe i just missed that because it would have been quick enough that i wasn't and it might have been like 10 minutes before they even came on it was just like the like it was almost just like the hey everyone get to your seat because like something's gonna happen here and i like that's really actually what it triggered to me that i was like needed to be stopping like screwing around

and doing other stuff mode and like oh no something's happening here now yeah so uh but with the song with the songs though so they play all the class you know every single song i didn't listen to any of the new ones and so it gets to a point where like, oh, 10 seconds in. Yep. I don't recognize this song. 10 more seconds goes by. Clearly don't know what this song is. Obviously it's a new one.

All right. They got to stuff a new one in here. And you're like, yeah, mentally I'm thinking, okay, I'm just, I'm having fun, but I'm clearly more checked out on this. And then still out of nowhere, it just kicks over to John for Shanta. And again, I'm like, what the hell is going on here?

This guy is just going nuts on the guitar to the point where I had to leave and look up. What were those songs that played during those? And now I go listen to those and I'm like, yep, I love these songs now too. These are great. So they,

uh, they really won me back as a fan to the point where this is how extreme it went. I got home. I actually bought a Fender Stratocaster in probably 2010 because I actually did get really into playing guitar for a little bit. And I bought a Fender Stratocaster to play. Probably for real have not picked it up, taken it out of its case since probably 2013. And I came home. I'm like, I got to touch this damn thing again.

And I was playing around on it and having a lot of fun and thinking, I'm going to start playing this. And then reality kind of hit. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You're too busy to do that. Yeah. But you can tell it would at least would be fun. Oh, it would be.

And so that's, I am like, this is a bad time right now because I've been gone for basically two weeks. And then the Arnold happened. So I'm just like so behind on work and massonomic stuff and all this where it's like, we just got like a lot of content we're trying to push out, but I can see how possibly in a couple of weeks, I may actually pick it up again because I did have a really good time with it. And I have started listening to way more, like the concert did have an effect on me. I've started listening to way more music. I used to only listen to podcasts to the point where i mean that was the only thing

i listened to and now i've actually made a habit of at night podcasts can be a day thing at night maybe i'll do more music and so i have been doing more of that now too uh so that was fun i wanted to say there was one other thing oh okay at the concert so this was actually a music festival that i went to it's called the innings fest and uh some of the other bands were like jimmy eat world and 311 played earlier in the day uh fantagram a couple other bands that i there was a few on the list i'd never heard of but the the the beverage options at this do you know what the beverage options were i mean it's probably dependent on the venue. I'm assuming you had probably like,

I don't know, like pounders or 16 ounce beers or something. I was surprised the beverage options were 24 ounce cans at the venue. That's a big can. And at 15 bucks a pop. Oof. Holy crap.

When you think about it, you're like, well, that's two beers. That's two beers, I guess, a regular beer. It's about $7. Yeah, I suppose. It's also a very warm bottom of the can. It gets there.

Yeah, it definitely gets there. Moral of the story is I drink a lot of $15 beers that night. $15 beers, yeah. Like a lot. And where they get you is with these, with these festivals. Now I'm assuming they all do it as you know, how they've wristband to get you into the festival. But what you can do is you can link your credit card to the wristband. So you can just, it's like an RFID thing. You put it on and then you got to put in your pin number just to confirm it's you. So now it's like money to let all the drunk people do money starts

to get even more, you know, credit cards already make money. to let all the drunk people do. Money starts to get even more. You know, credit cards already make money abstract. Now a wristband with a pin, it's even more abstract. And yeah, I spent, I actually was like,

really? I drank that many? We spent that much on beer that night? That was, that was a lot. 20, 20, what'd I say?

24 ounce Pacificos. I guess that's just what it takes for a Red Hunchley Pepper concert though. That's what it's all about. That's part the experience it is it is so it was so was it an abbreviated concert then they played or not they played so they started at um they started at 9 30 and they were done at like 10 50 so it wasn't super I mean it wasn't quite an hour and a half they didn't take any breaks uh they might have taken like a they did the thing where they walk off stage and come back out 30 seconds later you know uh but they never did sometimes you go to

axe and they might take a couple minute break they never did that they were they were really like and actually we even made the comment i said this to everyone we went with the next day i go you know what surprised me and i'd like to hear how this was for you. They did almost no talking to the crowd. Like it was just song, song, song, song, song. Yeah, no, I don't actually even remember any. Okay, so maybe that's just how they do it. I don't know what they did at all.

Yeah, I don't remember hearing them basically outside. I remember Flea, you know, for a while it was just the Flea show. I remember that where it was just him and he talked for a little bit. And then it was just like, I don't even know if anyone else was hardly out on. It was like everyone's getting a break and he's just like talking a little bit and then just going wild. You know, like it wasn't a part of a song or anything. It was just like. Yeah.

I mean, that's the coolest stuff, though. Yeah. Like that's like the that's good. But I, everyone else may have even actually been taking a legitimate break at that point. Isn't it kind of funny that, I mean, mostly just coincidentally that we both went to a red hot chili pepper

concert within like a couple months. But then I was going to say also if the two of us walked into a room and people, and if you're like, who here likes the red hot chili peppers, people would probably like, yeah, those two. Yeah, those two are the ones I like. Yeah, those guys look like the age and profile to have gone to a red hot chili pepper. They fit it. Living up the stereotype. It was really good. I mean mean to the point where i actually

look because they're on tour and i was saying i gotta see him again and unfortunately they play they play in minneapolis the same weekend as the lift hardly busy classic which is i mean we clearly know where the priorities are there so can't make that one where we could get them over here it's not that it's not too far. Yeah, fly them in. But they do play in Milwaukee like the week after. And Milwaukee from eastern southeast South Dakota isn't a terrible drive. So I'm still debating the idea in my head. I would really love to see them again.

It was so good. It was so good. I loved it. And then I had to listen to, because I am obsessed with John Frusciante, he has a four-part podcast with Rick Rubin where they just talk about how they made the music and all this stuff. Yeah.

Is it called Behind the Music? It basically is. I think it's called Broken Record or Skipped Record or something. But that was very entertaining as a person that's consumed a lot of john john frusciante media over the years it's all pop-up video yeah just fun fun wacky facts for four straight hours john frusciante was a stapler uh that's good that's uh that makes me kind of want to go to go to some concerts are pretty fun

it was especially you get outside too in the festival setting it was get a couple of them brewskis in you get some brewskis going and the other thing that the last time concert actually i've been to concerts lately but the last time I saw the Red Hat Chili Peppers concert, you know, 20 whatever said 2011, 2012. The the stage technology has changed significantly over the last decade, you know, to the point where a lot of shows now so many shows you go to the the the the show is just as much what's going on in the stage is just as much a part of the show as anything. And I've gone to a lot of like EDM stuff, you know, you know diplo skrillex where that's like is like maybe even travis scott like yeah so many of these where it's like that is almost the show at certain parts is right is what's actually going on at the show yes and it's awesome but when i saw redhead children's last time i don't even know at bonnaroo if they even had screens and if they did they were like small

and shitty now they got these big ass screens where when he's doing a guitar solo you can watch everything he's doing and just see him going nuts and that makes you like it even more because while we were not in the way back we were actually in a pretty decent spot you still don't ever see that stuff unless you're right there but being on the screen you get to take it in that's what I said about that concert too as the coolest like part of the experience like there was at times when i was almost just like mesmerized by everything going on i'm just like we talked about at a certain point there's like this giant starburst sun exploding thing and i remember my brain being like i don't know what's

going on right now man but this is pretty trippy and i took a picture of it and then we were talking about it and you're like yeah there was a point where this this thing like kept getting bigger and bigger and I'm like dude yeah the same thing like it was because yeah it was it was good it was awesome there is uh I find myself going through a weird thing though uh when I'm at an in-person event and there's all the giant screens that you can see way better than actually looking at them and I'll start to like be like should i be looking at the screen or where's that a certain point am i watching this on tv or should i be watching or should i be watching the one inch tall person that i see two right away right like what how do you feel

about that um well people just wouldn't think about it really depends no i i it really depends on where you're at right and uh it just depends on the venue so much so like these yeah i don't know we were we were slightly to the left of where they have uh what's the concert like the state the sound engineer people you know they're how they're back about halfway and they're always in the middle we were just to the side of that a little bit so So we weren't in a bad spot, and we were also up kind of on a little natural hill, so we could see so good where we were at. Even Leah, my wife's 5'5", 5'6", something like that, and she could see just fine, which for a woman going to a concert, a lot of times you get behind a couple of guys like us,

and it's like you're just screwed. There's nothing. But she could see fine the whole time too. So we were in a really good spot to where you could definitely see the guys moving around on stage and everything. But yeah, those screens are just, you can see. I mean, you can literally see what their fingers are doing

when they're playing the guitar. And so it's hard not to watch those. It is, yeah. Okay, so that concludes our concert portion of this episode and we didn't i am still excited to talk more about the garage gym i am too i also as a teaser of you i feel like i've been i've been uh it hasn't even started yet and i feel like i've already been uh formally inducted into some brotherhood the number of dms and messages i've gotten from people people are just pumped about you getting a garage gym.

I told Lee, I'm like, I would have never guessed in a million years how excited people are for me to have a garage gym. I've had a, you could say an outpouring of support. Like I've done something profound with my life. Like everyone's just like, it'd be like. Yeah, one of us. Right, right, right.

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Thank you, SwissLink. Shout out to supporting member Nathan Thomas out of Watertown. He picked up a new preacher curl bench for me that'll be going on. Oh, I saw that picture. Yeah. Yeah, so he's got that in Watertown, probably in his sweet gym set up. And actually, there was a little crew meet up there the other day, big Nathan Thomas and big Jake Heinrich were training together there.

And I said, what the hell, where's our invite? We could do a gym tour of Nathan Thomas's gym. We absolutely could. He's got a lot in there. Yeah. Well, have to consider that sometime. Actually, you know, just actually that is the, that is the halfway point for both of us.

That wouldn't be that hard to do. No, and I do have to get that preacher curl bench at some point in time, too. Oh, okay. Well, something to go. We already had one. This is just an upgrade. I don't know if you remember the kind of the JT. Yeah, I didn't know if something happened to it or.

Well, it's just always been kind of a hunk of junk. And this one came up used as a. And it's a little more robust. Yeah, it's a little more commercial quality, I would say. So thank you, Nathan Thomas. Your services have not gone unnoticed. It was in Watertown, actually, though? Yeah, it was used for sale in Watertown.

They had a Smith machine that I consider buying if they weren't charging triple what someone would pay used for that. Oh, they wanted a premium for it? $3,000. Oh! consider buying if they weren't charging like triple what someone would pay used for that oh they wanted a premium for it three thousand dollars buying a used smith machine i want to just out of comment just a courtesy just like yeah no one's gonna buy that from you in watertown south dakota for three grand uh is anyone gonna buy that used for three grand it's no is that what they know i mean they're very expensive new but that doesn't you know that's kind of irrelevant i did get a new postcard in the mail this week i

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