Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 447: Viral Stone Lifting expert: Peaky Boulder

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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Right, probably not bigger than a men's six Probably smaller probably not everyone Chad told us that Marissa in dough wears like a size three Probably smaller probably not everyone Chad told us that Marissa in dough wears like a size three. Yeah, that's insane I which I still don't actually understand how that's possible. That doesn't make like what is that even? We got a lot of a lot to run down this week we got to run down and guess what your boys kick the sickness Are you? Are you? Yeah. What's the update? I mean, I'm still not like 100%, but I'm, I'm like basically 100% compared to last week. So I'm, uh, I've gotten two workouts in since then. I have not had to restart juggernaut. I was able to, to just extend things out, not miss any workouts, playing the ketchup game a little bit, but but oh, we are so back over here. We are back.

Ah, listening live big C poppy says as a 411 guy, I wear size eight and a half. He's not 411 right now. That's a joke, right? Okay. 55 or something. 411. I'm I just completely forgotten my reference point here. I don't know, under six foot, they're all the same to me. So you think in like a week from now

you won't be sick at all? Well, I would go as far as to make that bet, but. For the time being, I'm on the up and up, so yeah, yeah, take it until the next thing hits you. Oh, that brings me to my next point I've got a little bit of exciting news my own myself and it depends on actually depends on what you consider The term exciting if that's good news or bad news, okay

Cuz I have this is Britain actually here at the breaking news button the breaking news button. Oh, before we make any statement now, it's just that we have to revert to disturb, to like announce every statement going forward. Yes. Uh, and I haven't even told Tommy this, so this is actually truly breaking the edge of my seat here. Uh, I let's see,

I'm trying to think of a creative crafty way to be able to drop this on people. Oh, but I can't really think of anything. Maybe we could play a game. If you were to guess what part of my body I hurt, would you think it's my ankle, my knee, my hip, my wrist, my elbow, or my shoulder? Okay, you did remind me.

We'll do the six joints. This actually just reminds me of something else. Since we're playing that game, I can bring this up after yours. God, what one did he hurt? Because I mean, the ankle's the obvious one. Yeah, that's the obvious one. It'd be more, if we're gonna be a Lattice Morissette here,

it'd be more ironic to not hurt the ankle, because the ankle's what you expect. So the ironic one would be, oh, you've been trying to protect your ankle and you actually protected it. But what you got was your shoulders been kind of in the clear for a while. Maybe it's your shoulder.

I wish it was my shoulder. Luckily for me, 12 days ago, I tore my other ACL, the one I hadn't torn yet. For real? Yeah. I have a tornie playing basketball, just not even doing anything athletic or drastic. I was literally just like walk, like back

pedaling and, uh, and for tour my ACL, I knew instantly the second it happened, I collapsed to the ground, you know, like I didn't like purposely go to the ground. I just like collapsed to the ground. And before I, I remember before even had a like a conscious thought Like it wasn't like it wasn't like oh, no, I hurt myself I was like, ah my ACL is torn like I I that was what I thought instantly when it happened It was the exact same as though the last time it happened

Yeah, it felt like the first time I did it my thought was what is that that feels weird in my knee and this time since? I'd done it before I'm like Oh fuck my I just tore my other ACL really 99% sure so I laid there or I sat on the ground for just a Couple seconds and some people tried to help me up and I was like, oh just give me just a second here Start throwing the dirt on me now They helped me up and I walked away. I walked into, you know, because I was I was with Jack and we were.

Doing some stuff and I had him help me up and. But was this that were you doing like noon ball, though? Like, well, we were actually outside. Yeah, no, it wasn't even that. Oh, yeah. And like, like I said, I wasn't doing anything. Like I wasn't, you'd think maybe I was jumping or, because that is a lot of times I think how it happens

in basketball, but it wasn't anything like that. I was just like moving backwards and I just took a funny pivot and it just popped. Really? And there was one of the other guys around because there were some other kids over and stuff. And the other guy was a chiropractor. And he looked at it right away.

And he was like, no, it doesn't seem too bad. And you seem to be because I got up within five seconds and was like, oh, shit, I tore my ACL. And like that wouldn't be like, and I said it just like that. And a lot of times when people have that happen. It's a more dramatic. Oh, yeah And he's like, I don't know. So then I went to the doctor or I tried to just say can you just get me the MRI? Can I skip the first appointment because I already know I told my Expert here. Yeah, let's jump ahead

Yeah, and They're like no we can't do that for insurance purposes You have to come in and do an x-ray and then we have to look at you So we do an x-ray of course nothing shows on the x-ray because I didn't break any bones so I already knew that the x-ray was not going to be the Indicator of anything and then the guy looks at it We go through it and not swollen at all. My range of motion is pretty decent. My pain threshold, like it doesn't really hurt that bad.

And I'm like, yep, I tore my ACL. And he's like going through it and looking at it and feeling it and moving it. And he's like, I don't know, it might not be, based on what's going on here. And I'm like, oh, in all fairness, five years ago, when I came in, I had this exact same appointment with you. Oh, it's the same guy. You said the same thing. You sold me that same thing.

I'm like, I think it's just a little bit the way my body is with this compared to maybe some other people's because there's another guy at the gym that just tore his a couple of ago. And he said his was giant purple. He couldn't move. Oh, really? And it was the identical injury, because I tore my meniscus too. So was my ACL and my meniscus. And I don't know, I guess bodies just process it differently

than different people can process the same injury differently or pain thresholds are different, obviously, or whatever. But then he's like, yeah, don't play basketball for a while but you can lift and I'm like don't play basketball I can barely walk like I tore my ACL. Like let's get he's like yeah we can schedule the MRI and we so he scheduled it and I could see the results before my next appointment, you know, I could log in Oh, yeah, very first thing is a fully torn ACL and I'm like, yep told you so

So when did I mean I wish would have liked to have been wrong But when did you find that out officially then? So I got the report this Saturday morning. It had it had I injured it 12 days ago Oh, and I got the report on Saturday morning and then yesterday morning I had my appointment, my appointment for them to tell me that I tore it even though I had already seen that it was torn. So what's next steps here? I have surgery in two days. Okay, and then what was it last time? I mean, I know to get strength back and everything it's like a year long but like yeah, it's a year basically

Is it a year? God dang? Yeah, it's I mean like in actually I looked through my exact I've looked through my exact time log of it and it does depend somewhat on it's hard to tell by the MRI how bad my Meniscus is if they have to go like work on the root of my meniscus. It's actually Makes it so I'm, can't even bear any load on it for six straight weeks. And it has to have no movement for six weeks. So that it means like only crutches with a straight leg, literally for six straight weeks. If they don't have to do that, which it,

I am fairly optimistic that they don't have to do that. Uh, then it'll be like last time. And then like the crutches and the range of motion thing are basically just like as able and people are different. Like I pushed it pretty hard last time because I'm like the longer it has to stay completely stiff and immobile and straight, the longer it takes to be able to get it to move again.

Yeah. It's just like even if you didn't hurt your leg, but you're like, no, hold this perfectly straight for seven straight days. We're going to play a game if you didn't hurt your leg, but you're like no hold this Perfectly straight for seven play a game. Yeah, you don't move Yeah, yeah, and then see how it feels when you go to move at the first time. It's gonna suck. You know yeah so Last time I was off crutches within a week out of my brace within a week and I mean I was doing it faster than Probably recommended Bitches and then doing it faster than probably recommended. Then all those other pussies that are doing it. Yeah, and all them other bitches.

And then I put a barbell on my back the first time, I think it was two or three weeks after. I'd have to look now. I put a barbell on my back and I did like, with 45 pounds, I did like what I'd call a quarter squat. And, you know, for like a call a quarter squat and you know for like a set of five or you know a couple sets of five quarter squats and it was like by four weeks out that I had maybe like 55 pounds on and I was almost doing two depths you know it's like almost a parallel squat like it was just a high

squat at about a month and then it wasn't until about eight months later that I is squatting with you know eight eight months later that I is squatting with You know eight months post surgery that I'm squatting with 315 and if you watched it You'd be like that just looks like somebody squatting. Okay, you know, I wasn't quite I hadn't rebuilt all my strength perfectly But you would just look at it and be like just looks like somebody's doing a squat So it took it took me about eight months to be able to like train squatting like normal. And that's like about best case scenario, right,

for recovery then? Yeah, that was pretty fast. You know, it worked out pretty well. I was also over five years younger at that point in time. I was in my early 30s, or it's in my late 30s. I was dead, deadlifting came back way faster because there's just way less bend of the knee in the deadlift., I was dead lifting

I did 500 pounds for a set of five It was like Three months after surgery or something like that. Okay, so I do get to deadlift, you know I'm back a lot faster than holding you back there, right last time I was benching six days after surgery as a matter of fact with my leg time to in a brace specialists upon the stays after surgery as a matter of fact with my leg time to embrace specialists up on the thing so I am able to keep going to the gym like I'll take probably about the same to have to take a week off of the gym and I didn't know they're going

to get me in for surgery so fast I was actually really glad that they could because I'm like okay let's let's, because we talked about pros and cons. Is there any benefit to waiting and there is no benefits. I got a deductible here. It's like I wanted to wait. First of all, like, yes, let's get it done in 2024. And second of all, well, if I'm going to have a however many month clock ticking, right, let's make it start ticking tomorrow and not in a month. Exactly. Yes. Damn. Well, that

is just wow. I was not expecting that at all. I have matching torn ACLs. I did have the conversation. What I'm curious, I'm like, wow, my ligaments suck. Like what, you know, like because a lot of, I mean, this is an extreme example, but LeBron James is 40 years old. He plays in the, you know, he plays as much wear and tear as possible.

That's an extreme example, but you could go less extreme than someone like that. He's obviously a genetic freak, but so there's levels to this thing where I'm like, that guy's never torn as ACL and he's played 3000 basketball games or he's 40 or whatever, you know, like, and so I'm like, Oh, is my, are my ACE, are my ligaments weak in my knees? Like, is it a genetic issue of my ligaments?

He's like, well, you tearing it, tearing one once does let us know that you're predisposed to that, of course, like that's the number one indicator that you've torn one before. That's the first thing. But the reality about ligaments, particularly in the knee, is everyone's ligaments in the knee are extremely weak. If you isolate your ligament of your knee and don't have muscle structure around it, it takes almost no force to tear like an ACL, for example.

So the issue isn't really the strength of my ligaments. The issue is a proprioception issue. So like when you're going to have a force on your knee, there's a signal that's sent from your knee, not even to your brain, just to the base of your spinal cord saying like, Hey, something's going on. Tighten, tighten shit up, tighten muscles up so that your ACL, doesn't take the brunt of this. And mine, when you tear an ACL, it's basically a delayed reaction

that it doesn't send that signal fast enough. So then it's not protecting it fast enough. So then it does reside on the load bears on the ligament and nobody's ligament is made to be able to handle that. It is kind of crazy though, like how many sports you played growing up and You know even past high school and you never had this issue though Like that's I mean I I did nothing about play sports through

You know the time that I was 18 and then even after that that's all you know it's kind of like all I've Yeah, like how many people tear both of them post 30 from yeah But you would assume like the older you get. Yeah, the more likely. Yeah, I can see that too. But also it's not like you've been doing nothing either. No, no. Yeah, man. Yeah. There is an option to not get surgery when you tear an ACL. If you're pretty sedentary, you don't actually have to. And I'm like,

and he kind of like, you know what I, I did have a good run. Let's shut this down now. Well, and the orthopedic surgeon is, lives about five houses down for me. And he's like, the day I go to see him, he was like, Oh yeah, I see you've been riding your bike around a lot. So I assumed it and I saw the report. So I assumed it probably isn't hurting too bad. Uh, but he says, you know, if you're, if you're a 40, which you almost are, and you say you have some, I mean, he used the example of you're a 40 year old farmer and you tell me the only activity you do is walking. I would probably tell you, you don't need to, but he's like, I know enough about what you got going on.

You need to get surgery. You know, like, I mean, it's ultimately my choice, but I guess basically every one of my hobbies is a physical activity Literally everything that I do outside of work and that is like a physical activity. So man He really caught me off guard with this one. I was not expecting. Yeah, I was like really hoping for it Yeah, I was pushing the trailer and I tweaked my shoulder again. Like that's what I know. This one, it was the it's the real deal this time. And I was hoping maybe if I, because I haven't really been talking to anyone about it, I'm like, maybe this will go away. And like me, then up until this

Monday, basically appointment, I've there has been some thought that like, maybe I'm wrong. And until I get confirmation, maybe I just have like a bad strain and I'm gonna be like, oh, not even noteworthy. I'm never even gonna mention it. I'll be okay in a month. You know, this isn't even worth it. Just another minor setback on the long, long road. And I'm like, I'm not gonna spend any more time

than possible worrying about it, but then I got the news. But my mate, so I spent like a day having a pity party for myself. And then I'm ultimately like, what am I bent out of shape about? I have like a little ligament in my knee that's torn like that. And then like there's people with real problems. Well, I mean, especially if you've been through it once, like, you know what to expect, you know, it's not like a death sentence for your legs.

Like it's, you can come back. But so is the likely, what's the likelihood of this repeating though, going forward? So my other ACL and the same, they're going to do the same with my new one. They make it out of my quad. So they cut a, cut a little hole in my quad also. And that's what they reconstruct the new ACL out of. And it is significantly stronger than the original ACL. What they, the quad, or the, did I say quad? Hamstring is where they take my, I was saying quad, hamstring is where they take mine. There is an option to take it somewhere out of your knee

or like your upfront, but on mine, they take out my hamstring. And that is significantly stronger, but yes, you absolutely can still re-tear a reconstructed a new one also so like if you ask what the probability is it's like nobody know like there is no you know there's because I asked all these questions like a day ago is why it happened is the only reason I have answers to these. And there isn't really like it's just a it's just a crapshoot. Like I just like it could absolutely happen.

Like I could retare my first one in, you know, a year when this when these are fine. But man, but you also it happens to people doing almost nothing to, you know, like it can happen just like, well, I mean, we've had people in here that they just turn in their kitchen. Yeah. And they tear it, you know, so I had a friend when we were in college, he went on spring break and they're on the beach the very first day they got there and someone said his name and he turned around and looked at him. And he Yeah, towards ACL doing that. He's like, Oh, cool. First

day of spring break, like, and his was like, I really severely paying for one, you know, where he's basically cooped up the entire time then. Yeah, I honestly think after doing the second one too and talking about some people have way different pain thresholds Because I relooked at my first one. I'm like I didn't even go to the ground. Yeah, you just walked away I remember you said you want to kind of hobbled away a little bit Yeah, but I'm like it also what I realized is I've been lying to myself a little over the years when I'm, because I have that video and I've looked at it and I'll be like, and I tell people the story, I'm like, oh, it didn't even really hurt.

And then when I was on the ground doing this one, I'm like, oh no, this hurts. But it's just like, I'm not gonna like lay and cry about it. Like I'm just like, like that's not really a pain emotion I have, I don't think anymore. It's just like, Like I'm just like like they roll it around going like that's not really in a pain emotion I have I don't think anymore. It's just like it's more just like I was like, oh Shit. Yeah, I was like, oh shit. This hurts. Yeah, you know like that's kind of just let it hit me for a while Yes

Yeah, so that's that's the ACL news so Thursday's drop transition to Thursday drop. I will be at some point in time coming down off of anesthesia. So hopefully you get the right thing in the right package. So I, if people, you know, it is typical. A lot of people want to ask a lot of questions of questions, or people will make orders and say, oh shoot, I wanted to add this and combine shipping and I put in the wrong address and all that.

If you do that on Thursday, don't expect a response on Thursday because I probably will be, last time I do remember I was, as a matter of fact, high as a kite for quite a while from the anesthesia. Have you ever had that, like been put from the anesthesia. Have you ever had anesthetics had that like under for anesthesia? I have pretty sure I have not. I remember as I was going down for the count, telling the, uh,

the gal that was administering, I'd be like, wow, this is from pretty wild stuff. I'm like, I can see, part of me can see why people do maybe some recreational drugs Like people like that not that I would do it, but I'm just like okay. I guess I understand But so we do have our drop coming up here on This Thursday the drop is real it is here one of. Well, by the time you're listening to this, it's already out. Yeah, that's true. Like I just, this is just for people listening live.

It's a yeah, by the actual people, by the time recording the drop has dropped. Right. And I know if we're going over everything, but spoiler alert, I am wearing one of the t-shirts right here. You are. I got the rest of the pile just, just out of the corner by side over here. And, ah, we've got some good items in here. There's a t-shirts right here you are I got the rest of the pile just just out of the corner by side over here and We got some good items in here. There's a t-shirt there's gonna be a hooded sweatshirt and there's going to be

two pairs of shorts actually in this drop I Think that that's everything in the drop right so yeah That's good stuff and this t-shirt that I'm wearing is on the comfort colors 100% cotton oversized blank and it's got the massonomics in the small text across the chest and Every shirt is different Actually in the way that it's this pattern this all you like smoke tie-dye

Everyone's a little bit so if yours has a pattern of a penis on it, that's just the way it came from the factory. We didn't do that. That that's that's exactly right. Or if it looks like it was a sharpie, it still was not us. It was just as factory has sixty nine on it. That's how they came. That was how they came. Like we can't help it that that was the one you got.

We had no control over that So do we want to talk about any of the other stuff in the drop or do we leave those mysteries or what do we do I Don't know Maybe they're mystery. I mean you said what the items are basically. So one oversized shirt one hoodie Not a zip hoodie. It's a regular hoodie a hooded hoodie. It's a hood that you wear with your hoodie and two pairs of shorts And two brand new pairs of shorts

Everything's brand new no, you know nothing that we've ever used pre-used or you're worn Well, I mean yes, I if we sell all the two X's this one's going out the door You can believe me that just kidding. I actually really really like the shirt this falls in in the equation I've been wearing the basically wearing the shirt every day since it came in so Big scans asked if the new shirt is the same as the property of Blank so what is the lifting department? Yeah, that's a apartment. Yeah Well, that's an interesting question that has not

that short of an answer. The short answer is yes, but the technical answer is no, because it's two tees made to actually buy different companies, but are owned by the same parent company and have the same specs. You thought, in your opinion, this one runs just the tiniest bit smaller, right? That was my thought on

this one it's still an oversized it's still long it still fits you know a box it has the feel of the lifting department tee but if I had to if you pin me down and make you tell me my honest thought I thought that this one fits a little bit smaller than the lifting department one does and I just got my package yesterday so I haven't even tried them on yet. That's what tomorrow's for. That's right. So buy everything in the drop. And first 50 orders of the drop

will be receiving this exclusive die cut. Ooh. The original never before released Lift Hard Live Easy logo. This was the original logo that was never released that we eventually adapted into the the traditional beer drinking skull that you've seen on everything we've had for years but this was the original the kind of like the first draft. So the first 50 orders in this drop will be receiving that sticker. What a classic classic piece

of Mastinomics lore there. That is like just a lot of story behind a lot of history behind that. I forgot that even existed until the one day you threw in the discord or wherever you put it. So I will also, yeah, somebody said something. I will not be competing in the 2025 Lift Hard Live Easy Classic. That is not within my time frame of recovery.

Starts now. Road to the 2025 lift our live easy. I'll certainly be lifting by that point in time, but I won't be competition ready lifting by the upcoming summer. Also, my lifting at Crew Falls might be a bit boring because I'll be. Oh, surgery, you can still be. Yeah, no, I will be benching hard last year. You can do that this year Yep, that's what I'll be benching and I'll probably be you know, I maybe even dead lifting a little bit Well, let's see and to so what so will you are do you know for sure if you'll have the brace off by then? Oh

Yeah, I'll have it off. Oh, you know, there There's no way in hell I'm gonna wear that thing that long. That thing sucks balls. I was taking it off like as soon as, like way, like I hate the brace. Not a brace fan. All right, so yeah, six weeks from now, you're just walking on. I wanna have the brace off by Halloween.

Oh, okay, okay, by end of the month, gotcha. I mean, I should put it on if I'm doing drastic stuff for the most part I'm gonna get rid of that bitch cuz they okay suck Okay, you like that kid in the what was the one movie where he starts running in the braces just start falling off his legs For scum Is that what it's worth? Yeah. The kid in that one movie. Awful.

One of the most popular movies. Big Tyler Thompson asks, this does come up into 4x. Lifting Department only went to 3. This one we do have in 4x. I'm looking at the, oh shit, am I lying about that? That's a lie. That's a lie. No, it was the same thing on that. They do only come up to 3X.

I'm getting confused on other things we got coming up, but this only comes in up to 3X. The hooded sweatshirt we have even in some 5X. Alright. We have 4X and 5X on the hoodie. And the shorts that we have coming, we have big boy sizes also up to 4X on the shorts. Which would fit damn near anyone that's ever bought stuff from us. Damn near anyone. Yeah.

Do you want to hear a little supporting our supporting members? Yes, please. Okay. We've got a pile of them here this week. Okay. First of all, Big Grant and Big D welcomed their new baby girl into the world. So congrats on the family PR to the Brogues at the Strength Co. Good job, guys.

Yeah. Big J Roy, offensive line coach of the Northern State Wolves. They celebrated their four straight win. They're on a four game hot streak. Go Wolves. Just zinging them off every week. The shit out of SMSU. Can't be stopped. Oh, big steam competing powerlifting meets. She went eight for nine with meat PRs across the board. So it literally does not get any better than that. Big Bryce did his first powerlifting

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repeat himself big john. john John welcome to the massomics podcast we're excited to get get you on here talk some stone lifting and talk about your adventures we're excited for it. Thank you for having me. Yes. So you popped up I know on my Instagram feed I don't know how many weeks or months ago it was list lifting some enormous stones and I've kind of been following along ever since then. We'll get into what you do but it seems like, I don't know how recent it is but you've had a lot of like really viral videos really going crazy on there,

is that right? Yeah, there were three videos that went viral, one that went viral, one that went viral viral, over 40 million views now. That was the John Coffee video, AKA Claire Glenstone. Never expected that to happen in a million years, ever. I was just going to lift some stones, but I love doing it, and That's what came out of it. What do you think?

I mean, cause you've got a lot of videos of you lifting stones. Why do you think that one? What's, what's your thought? I've watched that video a few times. Why do you think that one went so popular? I want to say it has a mixture of the lift itself was cool. Yeah. The technique that was used and everything, but I think it had a mixture of the lift itself was cool. Yeah. The technique that was used and everything.

But I think it had a lot to do with some Irishmen screaming at me in the background. Yeah. The way I was dressed and it was just. I can't think of the name for it, but everything about it, it was meant to go viral. Yeah. I think you're right. Like, those are both things I would have pointed out, you know, that I would have brought up if you didn't. I'm like, it's like the Irish, I assume your friend or what, you know, whoever it is screaming at you there, the lift, what you're wearing, all of it. It's just like, man, this is a video that is just prime for everyone, you know,

to come across everyone's feed. Absolutely. Oh, so yeah. So travel underscore lift stones, underscore repeat is your handle and you've been to a whole bunch of places and lifted a lot of stones. So what is the rundown on number of countries and our number of states that you've been to lifting stones? So in regards to that, I've been to 15 different countries.

Now as far as historical stone lifting goes, I've only done that in four countries. I also love to just travel like a normal human being too. But my, my passion for historical stone lifting happened about two years ago. Okay. Actually, I'll take that back. It happened before that, but I didn't actually get to partake in it until two years ago when I scheduled my trip to Iceland. I've lifted historical stones in Iceland, Sweden, Ireland, and Scotland. All the other places, I just went for vacation. Okay. The states, because unfortunately we don't have any known historical stones here in the states.

There's a few in New England and one or two in Pennsylvania, but you're not allowed to lift them. Somewhere in New England is the one. But yeah, I remember two years. Sorry. So what you said, he got into it a little over two years ago. So what got it got you into it to begin with when the full sticker and the stolen documentary came out.

Have you seen those? Yeah. Yeah. From rogue. Yeah. And really it was a pipe dream when I watched those. I thought it would be amazing if I could one day somehow make it over there and do that. But actually having it happen was, I just never saw it as a possibility.

I assumed it would just cost an arm and a leg. I didn't think I'd ever be strong enough. And yeah, it was a pipe dream. But right around when COVID happened, I stumbled, I was going on a hike with my friend Andrew, shout out to him. And we stumbled under a bridge in New York where I was home at the time, because we were locked down. And there was hundreds of stones. And I love lifting things in general.

It could be a couch, it could be a dresser, stones, cars, motorcycles, people, you name it. But stones have something special to them because they've been here forever. And I just started lifting a bunch of them under the bridge and I was hooked. I was hooked. And it was right around then I was like, all right, maybe I have a shot to go do this internationally one day. Maybe I'll go pick up the Husslefell stone or the inverse stone. And that was really it.

I didn't know about all the other stones. There's, there's so many now and there's so many more being rediscovered like in Sweden, Ireland, excuse me. I have really bad allergies. We can relate. It's awful. But yeah, really at the time I just started telling myself, all right, maybe I'll make it over to Iceland one day. And about two years ago,

I just hopped online and I said, F it. Bought my plane tickets and had a tour scheduled for eight months in the future. So how many, uh, how many historic stones do you think you've lifted with or got your hand, gotten your hands on now? I have lifted exactly 175 historical lifting stones. Yeah. The most of them were in Sweden. That was 85 in Sweden, 84 or 85.

Okay. Like you went to Sweden, were you aware you were going to lift that many while you were there? Like, did you have a list made or did they just keep throwing them at you saying, here's more? I did have a list made or did they just keep throwing a match and saying, here's more? I did have a list made. I had potentially a little over a hundred. I didn't think I'd have time to make it to all of them. I didn't think I'd get permission to lift at every single stone that I went to. Cause a lot of them are on people's property.

And I didn't think that I would physically have the capacity to still lift stones after eight straight days. But I did. I somehow managed to do it and my training did me well. I started my first two days in Iceland. First day was five stones. Second day in Iceland was just one. Then I hopped over to Sweden like I did only four that day. And then I got to my fifth day, or sorry, fourth day that I did 15 stones. And then my sixth day was 22. And that's actually the most stones I've ever lifted in a single day. And the majority of them were pretty decent sizes. So you can imagine you're sleep deprived because you're international. You're basically doing

many, many maxes every day, numerous times a day over the course of over a week. It gets to you. It. It's the whole body. So like with these stones, when you're like, how many of them are you going up to? And you know, you're probably kind of sizing it up and you know, planning your approach here. How many of them is it? I mean, it's all relative, but to you, how many of them are easy and how many of them are like, this was really hard. This took me a lot of attempts to actually get this thing lifted. Usually I can go up to a stone and know right away how hard it's going to be. Sometimes I can even tell before I get there. But I guess it really has to depend on how the CNS is for the day.

is to depend on how the CNS is for the day. Sometimes I can walk up to a stone and I won't be able to budget the first time because I'm not properly warmed up and all of a sudden I get warmed up, take a few attempts at it, second, third, fourth attempt and it comes off the ground a little more each time and then bang the fifth or sixth time up to the chest, like it's nothing. That's why a lot of the times when I do go for a max lift, if I can't budge it off the ground at first, I don't automatically tell myself, oh God, no way that's not gonna happen. Because I have done this so many times that I know how the body needs to be primed

in order to do an ultimate max stone. But really as far as the ones that I know are going to be easy versus the ones I know are going to be hard, I think a lot of it has to do with the texture of the stone. If I look at it and it looks smooth like an Atlas stone, such as the Menzies stone in Scotland, I know that it might take a few more attempts. look smooth like an Atlas stone, such as the Menzies stone in Scotland. I know that it might take a few more attempts. It only took me one attempt. I thought it was gonna take me more, but I'll take certain precautions.

I'll warm up more differently, do something different instead. It always just depends. What stone has given you the biggest fight out of all of them you've done so far? Historic stone or any stone? Historic stone. I would say Fegelkohlstenen in Sweden.

That is probably the most challenging historical stone that I've successfully gotten wind under. And when I say I got wind under it was like that much but it came up and it was my it was exactly my 60th stone on that trip so not only was it over 600 pounds but I'm nowhere near fresh my CNS is already. But I told myself before going to Sweden, it's getting air under it. I don't know how much, I don't know how I'm going to do it, but it's going to happen. I told myself that about Ballingerie Cross in Ireland and sure enough, I did it. So with one like that, like how long has it taken you to actually break them from the ground? Balling Gary took probably 20 minutes of different attempts and kind of just messing with it. Fagel-Colson in, I kid you not, I was probably there for over an hour and a

half because every time I stood it up, which was a wrestling match in of itself, and I failed the lift, I'd have to set it back down. So picking up, just standing it up to workout, setting it down nicely. So it doesn't get damaged as a workout. And then of course, trying to lift the damn thing is a workout. Yeah. I was there for about an hour and a half trying to do that. And finally, finally it came up and I met long for that much of air, but it happened. That's awesome. Have you gotten skunked on any attempts where you travel somewhere to go to a

stone and you are unsuccessful in lifting it then? There's only been one historical stone where I was unsuccessful from breaking it from the ground. And that was clock Radleymore in Ireland. We weighed it in at 507 pounds, 230 kilo. I think it was cause they go by kilo over there. Right. It was just a weird stone. There was nowhere to grip on it. And it was pissing rain. And it just was not happening. Yeah.

There was no way in hell I could figure out how to get that one. But I'm gonna go back for it eventually. So there will be a rematch. Yes, and I'll win that time. Yeah, Tommy, go ahead. A lot of times, you know, with lifting stones, like no doubt they're heavy, but it is the awkwardness and the shape of all of them. How tall are you?

Because you know, your, your wingspan does play a big advantage in, in being able to lift stones. I'm so glad that you pointed that out. And I don't think a lot of people know this. I'm five foot seven. I'm short. And it does, it plays a huge role. I've gotten a lot of people saying, well, big deal that he lifted the stone. He's like four feet tall. And you're right though. It's the shorter you are,

the less of a wingspan when it comes to an awkward object. You're at a disadvantage for a shorter purse. I don't think anyone, I don't think anyone would say it's an advantage to, I think someone that understands lifting to a much degree would think that that's an advantage to be shorter to do that. That seems like in more cases than not, that would make it more difficult.

Yeah, I mean, definitely for like a pressing, like if I'm doing a bench press, which I don't normally do, I have an advantage for that. Probably a squat too, but let's go for a deadlift. I don't do any of those exercises, but I have nothing against them. I just don't do them for my training. If you're tall but you have super long arms, it kind of, trying to think of the best way to put it, kind of negates the fact that you're tall, still challenging, but it goes with your height.

So yeah, I just, I don't see being short as an advantage when it comes to bulky objects, but there are things where being short is an advantage and being tall is an advantage. So you talked about your, you don't really squat bench and deadlift, but I saw videos you do train, you know, obviously you're doing things to prepare yourself for lifting these stones. What does your training look like?

What are some of your, what are some lifts that you think are important to help build your strength for the, for the stone lifting? I might be being biased here, but I love my good mornings. I love going super deep with good mornings. We've seen that and super heavy too. Yes. I just, I feel like it, it carries over very well because the range of motion that I go with. Is that of the range of motion that I'll use to lift stones?

And. I can go about as heavy on a good morning as I would for like a Max Stone, but I could do it for many reps. You'll not really see me do one rep max good morning. Because I think that's kind of dangerous. You know, I just don't want to not be able to not stand up with a max on my back, so I typically keep that. 10 reps so heavy for high reps.

And if I am going to go super duper heavy, I'll try to keep it three to five. Okay. I like to do, sorry? You know, go ahead, yeah, what else is on your list? I also wondered about hand or grip strength, you know, if you're doing anything specific for that too. Grip is definitely big.

I like to do fat grips. I'll throw them on dumbbells, do rows, curls, pull downs. I also have these atomic pipe bombs, they're called. They're like these rock climbing grips, so three and a half inches thick. And I'll do weighted pull-ups on those. I'll never use straps in the gym. If I'm doing heavy dumbbell or barbell rows, pull-downs,

I'll never use straps, always raw grip. Because I wanna train it as much as possible. I'll do heavy rope pull-ups. I'll tie ropes around my squat rack. And then I'll put weights on me because I'm light enough. So I need to add a little weight. Bulgarian split squats are huge. Lunges.

I think the unilateral work has allowed me to be comfortable with having a stone on my legs as I'm kind of wrestling it so that I don't lose stabilization. And I feel like the lunges just have, and the Bulgarians have really helped with that, because I can rest a 400-pound stone on one leg at a time. Whereas back in the day, when I didn't do those, I felt like my leg would snap if something was on it, you know? And it looks like, uh, are you a home gym guy? A lot of training is at home.

Some of the trainings over down on the river. And then I do go to a normal gym and do normal person stuff, but I got all the fancy stuff at home, you know? Oh yeah. Have you had your home gym a while? Five years, I think. Are you the type of guy, like is it kind of set or are you always adding more stuff to it?

I'm not always adding more stuff to it, but I don't want to say I'm set. I'm always hoping that I have something else come to it. Do you have some favorite pieces of equipment? Spider bar, spider bar, SSB bar, earthquake bar. Yeah. And wheel. I mean, that's pretty basic, but. And it looks like spider bars, is that what you're usually using for your good mornings?

It is. It allows me to go deep without the weight falling off. With a barbell, I can never go that deep because it would roll off my neck. You guys mind if I try to find something for this cough real quick? I feel like I'm, I'm ruining this podcast. Get a little something in the old windpipe. It's, it's fucking miserable. Let me take some like real quick. It's all miserable. All right, let me take some light pill real quick. You know, it's all I got.

Yeah. Well, it'll hit just right by the time we're done recording here. It'll be time to go to bed. Yeah. Absolutely. Sorry about that. That's all right.

That's good. What about this? What's the best clothing to wear when you're doing stone lifting? Like do you have any tips and tricks or what, what you should or shouldn't wear for stone lifting or doesn't it matter? It definitely matters when I'm training though. I'll wear sweatpants. When I go on tours, I'll wear cargoes or overalls.

So if you want protection, cargoes and overalls are the way to go. I don't wear them on tours for the protection. I do it for the style. But they will certainly protect you. I like tearing up my hands, my arms and stuff though. So that's, I'm all for that gushing blood. I'm in.

I just don't want to tear a tendon because then I'm out for a while and you know. Keep the biceps intact. Yes. Okay. What's your personal rock collection at home look like? Do you have a good, do you have a rock collection at home or do you, do you, do you not?

Not really in my place cause I'm on a second story in the apartment. I do have a few stones over at my cousin's house I'll train with. And then I have the really super duper heavy ones that could prepare me for any tour down by the river. And I'm trying to get people to come and just lift more because they're smaller ones over there but yeah unfortunately not at my place yet but when I do get a home or something you can bet there's gonna be an assload of stones there lots of shoes from yeah so what's your you know you know we're from South Dakota Mount Rushmore in South Dakota I mean made out of stone actually coincidentally

We play this Mount Rushmore game with everyone that we have on the show where we want to get your Mount Rushmore of something so for you it'd be what's your Mount Rushmore of Historic lifting stones, you know if you to put, pick four to put up there for whatever reason you would pick, what are the four that would go on your Mount Rushmore? The stones themselves? Yeah, which four stones? Fegel, Kohlstein in Sweden,

Bellingary Cross in Ireland, Ultax, Gelesbick, Alyn Heischker in Scotland. Let's see. We need one more or two more. One more. One more. Yeah. Let's go Langstein in Iceland.

That has a really cool story to it. That was the most special stone to me in Iceland and it's 484 pounds so it's pretty heavy. Okay, that's a good Mount Rushmore. What about your bucket list of stones you haven't attempted? Is there many left on the list of historic stones that you haven't gotten your hands on yet? I think there'll be many on my list until the day I die. There's just I'm going to the Faroe Islands in June and there's a lot of stones there. I would like to go to Japan eventually.

They have the most historical lifting stones in the world. They have over 20,000 documented stones there. Granted, I could live there and the stones every day for the rest of my life. I don't think I would get that many, but I'd like to go there and get a fair amount eventually. However, bucket lists, I just think as many stones, as many historical ones as I can throughout my lifetime. Well, I still can, you know, I don't know if I'll be doing it when I'm 80 years old, but I don't know if I lived to 80 years old. So, um, I know you said in the States, there's not much for historical stones. We're from Aberdeen, South Dakota.

Uh, we call it Western Northeast, South Dakota, but we actually kind of have a historic stone here that's become a little historic over the last few years. We call it like the towns. People call it Brock the rock. Uh, Brock, the rock is a landscaping rock in the parking lot of our Qdoba that is positioned in a way that, uh, vehicles get high centered on it. Multiple, like there's been at least probably 10 to 20 vehicles that have gotten high centered on this rock

it's around a little median and people are like on their phones and they don't look and then they Just rock it slanted in a way that they rent run up onto it get their front wheel past it And then they're stuck on there and then they you know The cops have to come and tow truck and get them off of it. So that's Brock the rock So like when we have our lifting event in the summer, we have people come and they get their picture with Brock the rock. So maybe you want to put that on your list. It would be something for you to lift Brock the rock. I think. Well, I tell you what, I've been to South Dakota so many times, one of my

favorite States, because there's so much to do there. And I will absolutely put it on my list. Yeah, yeah. Mark Brock, Brock the rock, Aberdeen, South Dakota, Qdoba parking lot. It has its own Facebook page even. So it does have its own Facebook page. All right. This is going to be a thing. Yeah, this would be a thing. Yeah. We'll send you pictures of it so you can start sizing Brock up. Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. You got any tips for someone if they haven't done much stone lifting before, but they want to do some, they want to get into it. Any beginner tips?

Definitely. I think balance is key and I think anyone who's getting into stones should absolutely develop a base with weights and also continue to work on that foundation with weights so that everything just stays well balanced, keeps you injury free because stones can make you brute strong like a mother effort, but there are always gonna be some things that they're not gonna hit. And I think a lot of the stuff you could do in the gym. Deadlifts, good mornings, squats, lunges, Bulgarians,

heavy bicep curls, grip training, the list goes on. I even love hip thrusts. I know some guys are about doing them, but I love them. They're one of my number one go-to's for getting stronger at extending a stone from my knee to my chest. It won't help you so much off the ground. But yeah, I would tell them, just like in the gym, you're gonna have to start small.

You're not gonna jump up to a 350 pound stone right away. You wanna practice and perfect the form and technique with a lighter stone, 100, 150 pounds, something like that, which you'd be surprised, a lot of your gym guys and gals could do 100, 150 pound stone. It's nothing crazy. They really start to get hired around.

I've noticed the upper three hundreds is when stones really start to present a challenge, at least for myself. And yeah, it's just, you build it up slow over time. Yeah. Just like you said, anything just Rome wasn't built in a day. Exactly. And their stones are for everyone too. For all ages, body types,

anyone who wants to do it can learn. Absolutely. Tommy, what do you think about overrated, underrated? Should we jump in? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, we've got this other game we play with everyone on the show, overrated, underrated, and we've got a special hand-picked set of travel, lift, stone, repeat topics that are just for you, and it's just your job to decide if each one is overrated or underrated. The thing you got to

remember is you can't ride the line. You have to definitively say overrated underrated even if you don't want to you just have to it's the rules Okay, we don't make them. I guess we do but Okay overrated or underrated peaky blinders the show Underrated Are you a fan I Am under overrated or no underrated. No. No, you're right underrated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay That that it's over though, right? Like there's been a finale of that and there's no spin-off or anything like there's no new episodes of anything coming out. I

think so Unfortunately, I was only able to watch season one on Netflix. I can't get the other ones I have to pay and I'm just too cheap. But I believe they did end, yes. Yeah. Okay. So you haven't even finished it though. I want to eventually. Yeah. How about this? Overrated or underrated? I don't know how this is pronounced. I've never said it before. Is it cairn building, stone stacking? Cairn building, stone stacking. Underrated. Have you done much? I have not, but it is a

old tradition and art that actually goes back thousands of years, so I'm all for it. Yeah. I mean, do you encounter places like where you go to some of these stones where they have, you know, something stacked up? Is that a thing? Oh yeah, definitely. I've seen it lots of times. Many places I've gone. I've never done it, but I've seen it a lot of places here in the U S or overseas. Yeah, that's cool. That just reminded me of something. Do you, uh,

do you know who bud Jeffries was by chance? Have you ever heard familiar? Yes. Big bud. Yeah. I passed away a few years ago. We had bud on the podcast many years ago and, uh, just, I just remembered he would do some pretty interesting stone stacking actually. Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We're like eight feet tall. I remember. Yeah. With some big stones too. Like Bud was a strong dude.

Yes. Yes he was. And his cardio was out of this world, too Yeah, very well versed and yes Overrated or underrated Flat caps Flat caps is that what I was wearing in Ireland? Yes Yes. Totally underrated. That is my shit right there. Yeah, we've had a history of talking about flat caps on the Masanomics podcast even before. So yes, that is the hat you were wearing on your head in that video. Yes. I know it is a tweet. I never thought of it as a flat cap.

Yeah, I mean, are if there's uh, It's a couple other names for it. Yeah, depending on where you live. There's a different name for it It seems like right right sense. Yeah Uh excellent hat. Okay last one here worth all the marbles overrated or underrated the husafil stone Underrated I think it's I think it's, I think it's as, as up there as everyone makes it sound. I think it is the most iconic historical lifting stone in history. It is debatable when you have that versus the inverse stone. But it didn't make your Mount Rushmore. versus the inverse stone, but I think it's underrated.

It didn't make your Mount Rush more. That's true, it did not. It did not, but still underrated. Okay, all right. Are there any stones out there that you think are overrated, that you are completely underwhelmed, that you're like, why was this,

this was not what I was expecting? underwhelmed that you're like, why was this? This was not that what I was expecting. Yes, there's a few in Sweden that were like 50 or a hundred pounds. I can't remember the name of them. My God, I'm drawing a blank here. Yeah. There has been a few. Okay. Yeah. How about, this is obviously a little bit different. It's not stone lifting by the letter of the law, but they are famous and they are called stones. How about the Denny stones? Have you done them before?

Do you have any interest in that? I do have an interest. Unfortunately, when I was in Scotland back this past March, I couldn't, I couldn't fit in a reservation for my time. Yeah, I'm gonna go back and do them. Absolutely I I can't lift all the stones that I've already lifted and Say that I haven't lifted any stones, you know, that's right Yeah Yeah, that makes sense good news. We just added while we're talking there

We actually added up the scores and you passed overrated underrated. So congratulations. Add it to your stone monument wall. Oh yeah. Awesome. I know that was good. I think this this is fun. We wish you well also on your your do you have an upcoming trip plan then? Like do you know when the next time is you're gonna go somewhere for any historic stone lifting? Yes, I will go to the Faroe Islands and end of May. Okay, end of May. Yep. So, okay. All right.

Right now I'm just training really hard for it. Nothing else planned. Awesome. Well, good luck when you make the trip. I think people will really enjoy this. We've got a lot of people that competed know competed in Strongman, done some powerlifting that sort of thing and maybe messed around with Stone. So I think we've got quite a few people that'll be cool for them to hear your story. Oh yeah? Awesome. Thanks Big John. Thank you

for having me out here. Thanks a lot John. See you later. See ya. Have a good one. Yeah Cool beans are cool stones. What one is it? I can't tell did you almost give them the end of the show? I almost hit the I almost shut the whole thing down right there. I'm like, it's all gonna go downhill from here. Yeah Cool beans a man that's lifted a stone or two. That's gotten me feeling inspired to start lifting some stones here. Your gym's gonna be full of stones now, here, isn't it? Oh, honey, you thought gym equipment was annoying? Wait till I start filling up the gym with the garage with giant ass rocks.

Then you'll really be impressed. I did, while he was talking there, some of these, I'll be the first to admit, I don't know a ton about this. Like, I know the names of the big ones, right? But I don't know almost anything about the history of them. I did see this lifting stones that or has a very impressive write up and history on a lot of these stones. I have to do a little research here in my side. A lot of the ones he was mentioning them. Yeah, they're all right there. Like the top articles, diny stones, the who's the Phil Stone? What's this one? The Dritvik stones,

the inverse stone atlast? Okay, lots of good stuff in there. I'll have to do some some some research. Let's see, do you need to hit them with an ad? Oh, I thought you would never, never ask that question. Just I was just waiting for the interview to get done. I wanted to read an ad so bad. It's been itching to read an ad for an hour. Actually, since the last week I got done, that's all I wanted to do. This episode is also brought to you by Texas Power Bars. Texas Power Bars are our favorite

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Just buy a regular bar. You will not regret it. Thank you, Texas power bars Thanks, Texas power bars, we've got several other things in here Did you see them Mike Van Wick attacking Jeff Gifford and the gym thing that's going around? Do you know who either of those people are did you see that so I mean I know who both of them are because of people talking about them. I do not follow either one of their content Yeah, I'm in the same boat. So I I do not keep up with them at all I did see the video and yeah, not good to try and attack or fight people on gym It's the wrong place to do it for sure

Also good not to try and attack or fight people over a difference in what people do how people pursue their recreational hobbies Also a really weird thing to want to fight someone about So yeah, not a not a good look that's for sure also like to be growing adults and like, almost doing a hand-to-hand combat over anything. I just, I'm so at the point where I kind of have to remind myself that I don't, I'm not trying to sound like enlightened

or anything like this, but man, the number of things that I just do not care about, that people do, like definitely there was things that when I was younger, it's like, you're not doing it the way I like, so you suck. But then, like at a certain point, maybe it's just maturing and getting older, maybe not everyone does this,

but at a certain point you just go, you know what? The world would actually really suck if everyone did the thing the same way that I do it. Like, and also it's not hurting anyone, so you know what, I don't care. And I think at the end of the day, it's the thing that's like, just don't care. You're not bugging me, I don't care.

I don't care, I don't care, I don't care. And that's how I feel about most things, I don't care. And I think at the end of the day, that's the thing is like, just don't care. You're not bugging me. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. And that's how I feel about most things. I don't care. Grows the economy. Yeah. Ah, it's just, yeah. I mean, man, there's so many things

you could be fired up and upset about, but to be mad at someone about the way that they approach lifting is just, like you can definitely think someone takes a really stupid approach and not like the way they do it and think they're doing it, it's all wrong, but that's kind of their problem then, isn't it? That's not your problem, so let them sit and live with that if you don't like the way someone lifts.

I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice to each other. Right, yeah, Canadian, Canadian crime here, come on. I Jeff Nippert has a huge following which I just realized over this and I have almost like I've actually never seen anything of his ever. So I will admit, I also don't know anything about him. But does he have something to do with macro factor too? Yes, but I don't know what. Yeah, see that's like the number one thing in his bio. That's where he crossed my radar recently was that when I first got going on Macro Factor and I was looking some stuff up on it,

he kept popping up and I'm like, I just know your name from stuff and I don't know a thing about you. And that was maybe the first video of his I've ever watched in my life was him talking about Macro Factor. Seems like we might need to get him on the podcast and have him do the tell-all story Give us a breakdown of play-by-play. What's going on right here?

Our IP rests in power bodybuilding comm forums dude, that's wild, isn't it? Did you know about that? Like that's uh that just came out of nowhere So for a lot of people actually probably have, I mean younger people listening to this, probably hardly even know what a forum is. It's such a dying thing. But that used to be where people found good, handy information and it lived forever.

Now Reddit kind of is that, but it's not at the same time though. It's not though. It's not a true replacement, but. It's not the same. It's not the. It's not a true replacement, but it's not the same. It's not the same It's not the same user experience either dude. I'm telling you you probably ran across this a lot You're looking for something on your old truck. You want to fix it. Do you run across forums all the time?

That's the only way you find information on fixing your old truck is for all you like right here like all the Constantly like I actually have became Within the last six months. I've become a member of a forum. Oh you have because it's so Like valuable. Oh, you're really doing it old school. I mean I I can't remember what the reason was I became the like it was like I couldn't see something I need I wasn't doing it to really contribute Well, I was like, wait a second. There's some follow-up questions I might want to actually ask on this rather than The typical way I use those forms is unlike someone has to have the exact question I can't be the unique person here and if they don't I'm like Matt they don't I guess it didn't work But I'm like, well, I guess I could get on there and actually ask the question

I could be these people probably will answer but I don't even think of it as something that you can use that way. I don't either. I don't. It's like, Oh, the question's ever been asked. Clearly didn't need to be asked then I guess. Dude, here's my automotive automotive forum story. So a lot of time listeners of the show will know that I've been driving a Chevy Malibu since 2013. So I'm going on 12 years. yeah I think like March will be 12 years of me owning the same car and I am NOT lying for probably Of those 12 years probably eight of them I feel like I've heard this goddamn squeak super high-pitched squeak in the Malibu and Most people that ride with me I try to point it out like no don't hear it Don't hear it to the point where almost think I'm crazy and when I brought it to mechanics before

Don't hear it. Don't hear it to the point. We're almost think I'm crazy and when I brought it to mechanics before Like let's say something else is going on Whatever I'm doing and I'll say it and I'll either get the answer of no we don't hear it or yeah We heard it, but we just have no idea where that's coming from and I don't know why off of all of those years I never thought to type it in I typed in Oh nine Malibu squeak like tire squeak or like rear squeak, because that's where I could hear it coming from. Sure enough, within five minutes, there was like a little tiny clip on like the rear,

like, trying to even think of where it's at. It's like in the wheel, and there's like a metal clip that holds a cable. And they're like, that clip gets dry. If you just spray some lubricant in there, they're like, it'll go away. And I'm like, I clip gets dry. If you just spray some, some lubricant in there, they're like, it'll go away. And I'm like, I'm so skeptical. I do not, but the guy even put a picture of there and it was so clear.

I'm like, all right, I'll try it. I did it. Drove down the road. It was gone instantly. I'm like, are you kidding me? I've been how many years has it been like, like eight years, this noise to the point where I'm like, I almost want to sell this car to make this noise, go away, it was driving me so so crazy like I was getting actually neurotic about it

And then all of a sudden one little spray and it's gone and I'm like you got to be kidding me This is this is insane. So there's my forum story. That's good I and the vehicles are the perfect reason perfect example and I do use it all the time and I had to even google it Because I'm like I never go to the site all I have to do is google any question I have about my pickup and this forum is always the first thing that pops up so the actual name of it is 67-72 Chevy trucks comm yeah, that is the name of the form and it is like the most comprehensive Way too specific like like that's like the one I was is like malibuforums.com. It's like there's a forum built exactly for your model cars.

Yes, yes. And this forum is like, I mean, I have found countless helpful things in these forums. You have to dig for it too. Oh yeah, well there's just so much, we're talking years and years of just stuff you have to do. And then you'll get to a dead end trail sometimes. you're like how did the people stop discussing this like they were right hot on the case that I did I what happened? Yeah

Never gonna find out what happened to Steve's It's like it's like you're reading a murder mystery in real time and it never got finished Then you look at the dates and it's almost always like 2010. Yeah, so long ago. Yeah, so long ago. You're like, oh, this theater didn't even really exist then. So cute. So my question is, so bodybuilding.com forums,

they delete, like they don't exist. You can't even look them up. I don't think you can. I tried, I just on my phone when I saw that pulling them up and it brought up kind of their generic You know, this page has been moved message So there's what do you think they were paying a lot of money to be able to for those to exist and that's why they Got rid of them like I mean there was a lot there

I still don't totally understand that because that's sort of a thing that for the most part like bandwidth isn't something you really pay for Nowadays, but also okay. We're talking about massive sites though too. So, right. They probably still were getting a lot of traffic to it. So like maybe there actually was really old sites. So I don't know if that makes any difference where it's like, Oh, this was just at the end of the day, we're talking about like moving text and really shitty photos, like it's not like they're watching a hundred hours of, you know,

everyone's watching hours and hours of HD video, right? You know, like the actual data itself, but maybe at the end of the day, it just was like a pain to maintain and keep those up. I don't know. I mean, I think that's kind of what they said was part of their reading. But that had to have been getting traffic,

or maybe people just literally aren't trafficking those anymore, that it's just like, no. Maybe it's just the historical thing. That is not like. So is the most, I do remember coming across those a lot when I first started, I never posted and I didn't't that wasn't like a spot that I would regularly check on the internet I just remember when you would do Google searches a lot in the early 2010s. You would end up there frequently, right? is

The is the number of days in a week. Is that the most popular post ever go on there you think I? It's the one that people it comes up all the time. I'm not sure if it statistically is or not, but it's definitely the one that I'm most familiar with. Yeah. Yeah. It's got, yeah, it's gotta be, that's gotta be like top three for sure. I would think. Yeah. Um, I have a commercial gym story. Oh, you know how you had commercial gym stories? Yeah. Yeah. No, you know how you had commercial gym stories? Yeah, yeah. Did I? Actually, the clip of me talking about the decline bench and I just like read some of the comments and I

Oh, yeah, have to remind myself that yes, most people are idiots. So I, one of my kids has basketball practice at the Aberdeen YMCA, famously where Masanomics got its origin story, the Aberdeen YMCA, the very gym that Masanomics was really hatched from. And I haven't been there much in the last ten years, obviously, because a while. It's been a while. It's been a week. No, it's been like 10 years since the YMCA gym looked at me and I've I've been up there maybe a couple of times or something. But this is the first time so like I can go up. It's on the second floor and watch the basketball happening

through the glass. You know, you know how it is for the glass down there. Yeah. So I'll go up there to the gym area and do that. And I'm up there for like an hour or so back. Let me use the calf machine a little bit and like, you know, like, yeah, yeah. I test. So I like have really eyeballed all the equipment. I've been out there like four times, spent like an hour up there each time and I really

Eyeballed it and is most of it hammer strength. I'm trying to remember now like what or is it just there's yeah There's a few hammer strength Things and most of it's still the same stuff that was there when we were there ten years ago It all like is it all kind of like painted silver or gray for the most part? Yeah They have some newer stuff that didn't exist when we were there. Okay. Um, you would pay, you would know, it would be much more notable now to you than it was then. Cause then you're just like, I don't know, it's whatever stuff's in a gym that I

use. I don't know what brand it is. Nor do I care. And now like 10 years later, it feels way different to there. I'm like, Oh no, I now analyze every piece of equipment because I know like been studying for ten years I'm an expert. Yes, they do have one rogue, Ohio power bar I think I remember someone saying that like five years ago. They got that the plates are all the standard Olympic Plates is that what they always were, weren't they? Yeah, they're the same ones. They're just like the standard,

the ones that say standard Olympic on it. Yeah, generic. Yeah. But the equipment's not what I wanted to point out. It is such a foreign concept to me to be up in a place where everyone's weird and nobody talks to each other. no one kind of everyone's like into that's

Yes, and I'm like like everyone. I got this is real time absolutely insane Like I'm I'm not joking like I'm up there and I'm like this is crazy I'm like is this what it's I know you talked about it and we went through this thing and I'm like I'm like is this what it's I know you talked about it and we went through this thing and I'm like Holy shit. Is this what it's actually like in every gym because it has actually been a decade and I am so Desensitized to it and not all I get is I'm like I'm used to going where I know first of all I know Everyone and you also kind of know what their training is to like everyone knows what they're doing Even the worst people that come into economics gym figure out what they're doing like pretty well. And I'm like, whoa.

It is, it's like, it's just. I've been shocked by it. I'm like, what is going on here? I think that's actually, now that you're making me reflect back on this a little more, it is that fact of like, it's just a straight up zoo of like people yoloing it. And at the same time, having no clue what they're doing, what the hell is going on at all.

Like you got some guy that's like doing sprints, but at the same time, trying to like max out on overhead press and then like directly next to him will be someone like swinging kettlebells right around it. Like it's just like the crazy, it's like what you would expect like elementary kids to do in a gym. And these are full grown adults.

Yes, and it's not like you, I could, maybe you could get into the line of thinking like, oh, they're doing something different than me, so it's weird because it's not the thing I do. Right, I don't understand. And that's not even what I'm saying. I'm saying you guys are actually insane. There isn't, I can tell there is no rhyme or reason

to anything that you're like anyone hears it and I'm Not not any of them. There are some people in there that I'm like, okay Yeah that person know like I guess I'll never sure be a few that kind of know what's good Right, right and you can see you can see there are some but for the most part. I'm like wow there is just like It's crazy. I'm like that is crazy. So that is that what it's like in every commercial? Like that's what it is. Because you think about it though, if most people aren't on an actual program, you know, Oh no, none of the people there on our program. There's nobody there on a single person. No, yeah, none of it. So then you get is like, well, today I'm going to like bench something,

you know, that's already the first problem is like, I'm going to bench something. And then when that's done, like, I don't know, I'm going to do some arm stuff and just like, whatever I feel like. And it's like, that's what this day is. And then the next day it's like, ah, we're going to hit legs and, uh, yeah, I squatted last week and that's enough squatting for the month. So I don't know, maybe we'll do hack squat and leg press. And if there's some time after that,

we'll go back to doing some arm stuff again. And that's just like kind of how people roll, you know? I don't know, did I do five sets of three last week? This week I might do four sets of 12. You know, it's just all over the place. And the other thing, I kind of alluded to this, but it's just crazy to me because it's so much different. I'm like, there's like 13 people in here not one of them has said

anything to any other one of them in there other than maybe like hey are you done with that or I'm like there hasn't been a person in here like nobody has like spoken anything to like everyone has headphones in and nobody has said anything that's actually probably the biggest change since when we first started is eerie in here that I'm like, Oh my God, am I like, is this a library? Like it's like quiet. Yes. That's yeah. So that is from when we started, I think that is the biggest change is then like people would wear headphones in the gym, but also like for sure, like you wouldn't go up and be like, I think, I bet if I walked in, you know, how many people are going to have headphones in

you'd say, I don't know, maybe 25%. Like if you're doing cardio, you're like even more on cardio. People have them in, but like lifting weights, you saw it, but it wasn't like everyone was doing it. And now it's like weird when people don't have headphones in at the gym. Everyone has them in and it is cool. I don't even know if there's music on, to the point where I'm like, and like,

there's no music on, there's nobody talking, and like, it's like oddly silent. Yeah, like, are we in prison? We're not allowed to, like, this is wreck time, and we're not allowed to talk, or we're gonna get in trouble. Yeah, dude. So it just was like, I'm like, this is like the weirdest place in the world, because I've always been like in my mind

I've always said oh if I had to go back there and lift that'd be fine. I can lift anywhere That's no big deal and after being there a few times I'm like oh I would have to really like hone in on making this work because this isn't this Feels like an insane asylum to me. That's yeah that is a hundred percent what it's like and then you but then when you get there when it's The times where people are talking it's because it's surrounded, it's, you're just surrounded by high school kids. Then you're like, ah, actually this kind of sucks too, because I mean, I'm sure I did

the, I, I know I did the exact same thing in high school. You're just talking about like dumb shit that you did with your friends or like, yeah, you're dicking around. So like, it's like, no, that's actually just annoying to listen to when it's not you, you know? Um, yeah, that's dude. you just summed up commercial gyms right there. That's what it is. And I know I've heard you talk about it, but having actually witnessed myself for so long,

I'm like, okay, wow, that's crazy. That is what it is, man. It's somewhere we're going to be way different, you know, I suppose. Right. Yeah, there'll be definitely different levels to it. But when you're talking about just like a general fitness, like we're not talking about a gym that's known for lifting's right. Yeah, there'll be there'll be different levels to it but when you're talking about just like a general fitness like we're not talking about a Gym that's known for lifting or right like that, right? Which it was those gyms tend to have a different vibe to them too, you know, exactly Yes, so that's my commercial. I'm glad I'm glad you got to experience that. That's good

I do like getting to I still as weird as it is. I still like going to like every time I'm like Oh can't wait to go up there and see but like What it's like freak show. Yeah And I like to like walk around the track and just literally just see what everyone's up to you know And yeah, we're like I'm in a Alternate universe like yeah, I'm like man This is what it would be like if massonomics never existed I was so this universe where people haven't figured out how to yet. Like they're just feeling it out for the first time ever

Oh, it's so true. There's so many guys that come in there that are probably like in their early 20s that I'm just like if they could probably do so well if they just even have the slightest bit of programming or direction. Isn't that funny though thinking about it is and this changes the more you're in the gym. But I remember that time being like, I mean, how do you get stronger? You know, it's like, right, right. Like I'm going to do some of this stuff, but does it work? And now it's like, oh no, I know exactly how you get stronger. It's just, can I avoid injury? Just doing that. And it just takes time and can I stay healthy? And yeah, I just, as long as I can continue to put an effort and show up and put in the work and not get hurt,

I know I will get stronger. But then it was like, right, dude, I have not hurt myself. And my deadlift has not gone up in six months. What the hell is going on here? You know, like my bench has moved five pounds in the last, you know, whatever part of a year, what's the deal? Because you just didn't really know. Right.

Yeah, it's good stuff. What else we got this week? Oh man, I gotta say, I've been getting on that, this is something you've talked about, I've been getting on that cottage cheese train. Oh yeah. It's staple, big staple. I've had, you know, I say I get the big tubs,

for just supper tonight, I had over half of one say the big tubs I for just supper tonight at over half of one of those big tubs of cheese are you are you getting like 60 grams of protein from cottage cheese a day probably yeah like some days I'll have a full one of those things well when you say the big tub that you're talking about the ones that are are they like a six they're like that tall and that big around okay like a 32 ounce tub probably yeah like a pound of cottage cheese a day Like there'll be days where I sometimes don't have any but some days I for sure eat a tiny an entire one of those Like all like just tonight with supper. I was like, oh, I've accidentally eaten over half of this

I should probably just like not eat anymore of it like a just cuz I'm like that's too much of one food probably Okay, I gotta I'm just like mixed up on sizes now. So I gotta I'm not sure what what is the I think? Yeah, 32. Is that look right? Yeah, 30 to 32. That's a big one. That is a big one That's what I mean we buy. I mean we literally go to the store and buy like eight of those 32 ounces at a time. So that's Like I could go through like four of the four or five of those in a week So that's what I had to revisit here is because now that I have been I've always liked cottage cheese I just don't buy it ever now that I'm seeing like oh this actually this actually is a really cheap, good source of protein.

And it's pretty low on everything else. Fat's fairly low too. Yeah, it is. It's not like regular cheese where it's like damn near, you know, fat is higher than the protein. Like protein is the highest macro in it. Well, for like example, okay. So I have now at Costco, this is what, this is what has brought this up is, so you were talking about how certain brands, you know, have much better flavor than others. And even there, you were saying how the batches almost feel like can vary. Can be different.

I'm a bit of a cottage cheese kind of sewer and I would take that positive that that's all true. And I really want to see what's, Yeah, what brand have you been getting? Friggin' annoying here. I just looked up the, I found the brand of the kind that is my go-to now too. Okay, so I'm looking here.

So Kemp's to me is, Gonna look up Kemp's. There's a cow on it, there's like a clouds and sky. That one is one that I thought was tasty, I thought was good. You told me the Walmart stuff is damn near unedible, correct? Yeah, I won't eat it. I've had too many bad experiences on it.

Yeah, so like a tub of this Kemp's one, this is a 22 ounce one. And like I got that, I'm like, oh, I think this is good. This is tasty and everything. But then you go to Costco and they got a giant ass tub it's like a three something pound of the daisy and so I get daisy, okay and First bite of it. I'm like this actually is not good and I ate it a few times I'm like, I actually don't know if I can finish this. Oh, I don't like daisy cottage cheese

I had to look it up to like I just I recognize the label. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like I do Kemp's I think is good. I can't really recall specifically Daisy I specifically Generally do not like that was curious if you had experience with it I was like this is it's like a thicker It seems like it's a thicker one and it was not good and I got to the point where I'm like this isn't I can't Eat this so I just had to salt it and pepper it heavily to like mask all flavor and then it was fine But then this last time I'm like I'll give it one more chance because Tanner said some batches are better than others I was just gonna say sometimes it might be okay, and I got it again

I'm like either I've gotten used to the flavor and this one's better because I didn't find it to be as offensive It was just to me. It just felt more like cottage cheese then the home run choice to me I think we get it from Target is it's called old home. I get the old home 32 ounce or maybe it's 22. Maybe it's 22. I think they're saying 32. Yeah, you were saying like 3 pound I think which should be really big. No, it's I think it's their 22 ounce containers the old home Usually I get the 4%. Uh, yeah, I know. I'm just looking here. I've never seen this one before, so I might've tried it. I think you get it at target probably is only a place, but it is.

I've actually never had a bad one out of, you know, I've probably had, I've had hundreds of these tubs and the one that used to be my go-to was, um, land of lakes. Yeah. And it was like so reliable for so long. And then they did you dirty. They screwed like, I literally asked him at the grocery store. Well, I went to the grocery store because I was like, I was getting on my wife. I'm like, what is with this kind of cheese?

I don't come here often. So I went to the grocery store basically to go ask the one of the managers what the hell is going on. I need your manager right now. She came storming in. And they did say, yes, something has changed.

Oh, they did actually say that. Yeah, there was there was like even like there was like I don't know if it was a merger or acquisition or something. I don't know if you're aware, but if you looked at the label, things have definitely changed around here.

Yeah. No, it was something about even like, ownership of the company. So they're like, there was recently a change. And so they're like, and like, I think it was two companies merged together. So their theory was that they went with like, whatever, you know, the, I don't know.

I don't know, but there was a change and it was absolutely noticeable. Mm-hmm But the right cottage cheese is a staple. Okay. Well hold home old home You got me you got me interested, but I think what you said it I do think is correct though that you're like, oh I tried this one and it wasn't good in the next one I'm like it was good and that actually happens and sometimes I'll be like I went through this thing I'm like am I losing my mind because I just had this and thought it was delicious and I'm eating the exact same thing today and it's disgusting me like

literally to the point where I cannot swallow it and then I'm I would like make people in my house be like try this is this good or is this bad and be like tell you tell me that that's good because there's no way that tastes good that tastes terrible You think this is good. I'm kicking you out right now Like it was been a big thing I'm just trying to trying to look if they if the I've haven't even really paid attention if the Costco one is even that much cheaper But sometimes it'll much cheaper but sometimes

I don't give you a pricing on some of this stuff. Yeah that doesn't really give you a pricing. So okay all right well I got some cottage cheese homework to do so I'll see. Really good cottage cheese discussion and that is why the title topic of this episode is cottage cheese. I'll just go to Walmart. This will be a video next week taste testing all the cottage cheese, blind cottage blind cottage I would actually like to do that do a blind taste. I actually do that to myself even you know Picking the Walmart one yeah, they're like am I am I correct or is it in my head? Maybe it's an egg I'm not really I'm not saying it's not just in my head I've always wondered is this just in my head, but like I'll come to that

Nope, this is so definitively bad that this cannot just be bait up in my mind That's good yeah when you type in old home like pretty much the first thing that comes up is target so that must be okay Let's be the supplier there Okay, if that ever goes away from target, it'll be a sad day for me I'll be like okay. this is a crisis and yeah So for example though for people that are curious the old home in one serving which is a half cup So we're talking 14 grams of protein Four grams of carbs and five grams of fat So how many a half, how many servings

are in the 22 ounce? Servings per container, five servings. Okay, so like tonight I had three servings of that for sure. So it would be like, what, 28? 42 grams of protein. Yeah. And that's just kind of my filler. Like kind of cheap, that's just my filler. That's just my filler.

That's not my meal. That's just the thing I have to make sure I'm satiated once I get done. And I still at the end of the day, I always enjoy eating my calories way more than drinking them. Like I don't, like if you're giving me the choice, obviously I like Build Fast Formula protein,

but just from what makes me feel good, I always like to eat the food more than drink the food. And dude, I'm at the point now where it's just like, there was a while ago where now, like when I got done with lunch, I'm just like, I crave something sweet. And for me, a pure protein bar fits that and it's 20 grams of protein. So my brain just at lunchtime just assumes I'm getting a pure protein bar every day. And now after like a week and a half, two weeks, my brain just assumes I'm having cottage cheese with lunch every day now, too. Yeah Jimmy just those two things alone just I mean even if you did just a serving of protein and a pure protein bar

You got 34 grams of protein. You haven't even ate your lunch yet You know That's just doing those are just the crack fillers. That's if you're only doing a only a half You know only a half a cup of cottage cheese, too You know if you're going cottage cheese, I think if that's like when people say oh, I don't even track I don't track my sauces. That's how I treat cottage cheese like oh, I don't even really try Like a tub of that a day and I'm like, I don't really count that's just like that's just like the ranch Oh, yeah, that's 60 some grams of protein. Yeah, I don't even count that in my daily expenditure. That's just like at the condiment

But you know a half a cup only has 110 calories that honestly honestly is less than some condiments, you know That's true. Like especially by volume You know if you go with like a sugary barbecue sauce, you're looking at 70 plus grams of calories or 70 calories easy, you know, right. And some people use multiple servings of that in a single meal, you know, I got to know protein or anything in that obviously either, you know. Yeah, kind of cheese. You're like, oh, it's just spinach leaves.

I don't really track that. That's what kind of cheese is like. Yeah, I know. I don't really track that. That's what cottage cheese is like Yeah, I don't really account anything That's good, that's good What else we got this week I got a few lap pulldown updates I am I Basically a little restore pulling bone dude I've I took I painted the

damn thing. I touched it up with white paint. If you're walking into the gym right now, you'd think this damn thing's brand new. The white I does a pop or dude, it just looks so good. And I was not sure how the whole thing would go like a touch up marker. Did you use a I went and bought the rust olium like 2x paint and primer and one I got the white Gloss and just like goddamn. I hope this matches close because I really don't want to paint this whole thing And that was the problem. I was running into is it matched so close

I could not tell where I hadn't had painted it looks it just looks exactly like it's it's such a clear perfect coating and just sanding the rough spots down and Going over it. I got it with a few coatings this weekend. I got that all cleaned up and then I took the weight stack out and man three in one oil you hit weights of three in one oil that thing's a miracle worker you just start you start cleaning things up and you know if it is a little rough spot again it is if it's a little rough spot you can either take the wire brush or even kind of that rough like steel wool type sandpaper to

it and it just cleans the thing right up and all the sudden the weight stack I thought looked a little shitty I'm like yeah this yeah this this weight stack does look rough now I'm like dude it's just black and like it looks like it's brand new it looks so good and the stickers were all perfect on it already so I'm like this whole thing just looks I can't get over how good it looks. And then I did, when I was using it, it was just catching a little bit or it wasn't catching, but there was like a spot where it just didn't feel really smooth. And I thought, oh, it's the guide rods, you know, like this whole thing has probably never

been lubricated oiled or anything. But then when I really looked into it, I realized there's one pulley wheel that, I'm guessing, it looks like it's been this way for like 10 years, that had somehow, I'm assuming when someone moved it, they had cracked. And so the wheel, instead of standing vertical, was off at about a 30 degree angle. And so what it would do is when it would come around,

it would actually hit the guide, you know, the mounting bracket that it was in, and that's what was making it feel rough. So then just last night, I took the pulley off, I got the measurements for it, found the website that sells the replacement pulleys. I mean, spec-wise, it seems to be the same. We'll see if it actually fits.

I can't imagine it's that different. So I got a couple replacement pulleys coming in. Dude, this thing's gonna be just like brand new by the time I'm done with it. It'll be literally like brand new. Dude, if I, in a perfect world, if I could get the, uh, black, you know, like the black grippy upholstery that everyone puts on benches now, if I could get this thing re upholstered with that, which you could probably pretty easily too.

I just don't want to spend a lot of money on it, but if I could find, if I knew exactly what that upholstery was and it could be done reasonably, this thing would be all white and black, and it would look so good then. So that's like not out of, because the blue at the end of the day, the blue upholstery always looks like 90s gym equipment. Okay, it's blue upholstery on it.

It is, it's just like the stuff in the gym that we have. It's white equipment with blue upholstery. I feel like it was like, oh, you're making gym equipment? It's pre-2000, blue upholstery. That's your option, you get blue. There's no other color options. Yeah, why not black? Come on, people. Yeah, black is making gym equipment. It's pre 2000 blue upholstery. That's your option. There's no other options. Come on black. Black is not the option. You get blue upholstery.

And, uh, if I think of, I got this reupholster with the black grippy stuff that this thing would look amazing, but yeah, right now I was like hyper analyzing it. You know, I have it like pulled out more towards the front of the garage where like the sun's hitting it. It's getting super bright light. And I'm like nitpicking every little thing. And then eventually I just had to myself, stop this is going tucked into the corner of the garage where like the sun's hitting it it's getting super bright light and I'm like nitpicking every little thing and then eventually I just had to tell myself stop this is going tucked into the corner of the gym no one's ever going to look at it this hard

and then I got it and I'm like dude like it's just barely dark enough over here and it's not dark but it's not in the daylight right day I'm like yeah it just looks like a perfect clean coat of white paint on this thing it looks amazing so uh, I'm really happy with how that turned out. Good. It's basically as good as new. It is. And you know what else is good as new juggernautai.app. It's the training. I'm actually in still using juggernautai, although I'm having surgery on Thursday. I'm going to lift tomorrow one more time and I've been continuing to do my juggernaut training. I'm like surgery on Thursday. I'm going to lift tomorrow one more time and I've been

Continuing to do my juggernaut training. I'm like, I don't know what else to do So I'm not gonna keep doing this and it's like you gotta go in strong, you know You got to go into your surgery strong. That's what I figured I've been bike biking every day and lifting on my normal schedule I'm just I actually on my tourn, like four days after I tore my ACL, I'm like, Oh, I didn't squat obviously, but I'm like, what's my deadlift day? And it was like a fairly light one. It wasn't a D load, but it was a hypertrophy block. And it was, uh, the lowest weight I could pick within the range was like four 25. And it was for, um, Oh, I have my deadlift set up that it's lower rep range. So I never do over five reps of a deadlift set because that's the way I

don't ever want to do over five reps on my deadlift. So even on your high perch free block, you never do over five. Really? Nope. Five is the max because I found I, there's nothing about that. That makes me feel good. So I'm just like, Nope, these are capped at, it'll give me a few more sets sometimes, but never a set above five reps because I don't like doing, uh, especially on the,

the, uh, competition lift. If it's a variation, I might allow it to be a higher rep scheme, but on the competition lift, I will not do more than five and I've liked that. So, but anyway, so it was 425 for four sets of five. And I did that like, three days after I have to torn ACL, I'm like, this doesn't really feel I'm like, my other knee might be a little more sore today than this one. Like, like, it just feels

fine. You know, it's from carrying around having to having to do all the work. That's right. That is that is correct. So I'm still using juggernaut AI long way of saying So I'm still using juggernaut a long way of saying I'm still using juggernaut AI and you could to check him out at juggernaut AI dot apt Tommy's also so you're but are you're back on it then are you up and running on? never left Is this as long as you don't get sick again, you're yeah. Yeah. No, I just I had to bail out on my

Bridge block a little early. And then I made it to like week three. I was set up to do a six week bridge block. I completed week three and then the next three weeks, I couldn't do due to various conditions, ailments. And then when I got done with that, I just did like, when I was finally feeling healthy, I just did like two weeks of just lifting

By my own you know my own standards, and then I just started up I just let I just started up a new program and let it run so right I'm like I'm like Four or five weeks into hyperchip right now Got it. We do have a discount code with juggernaut AI. It's massonomics It'll save you 10% for the lifetime your membership you have to sign up through the website not the app juggernaut AI app And This episode is also brought to you by Swiss link Since 1995 Swiss like has been importing military issue goods to the United States and into the hands those yearning for quality gear at Uncompromised prices.

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That's correct. So don't miss that make sure you're subscribed on YouTube for everything that's coming out on there. Ah Anything else we want to hit on this week in particular Looking at the list we got all the drop I guess we should mention the drop again. I am wearing this smoke tie-dye Massenomics tea. It's all the rage. Yeah, go buy the stuff. It's a little more, it's a little change of pace for us.

It's a little more subtle, a little more. Yeah, I think people will like the hoodie too. I think the hoodie's gonna be cool and I think people will be excited about the shorts, the new colors, the blanks that we've used and everything. So I'm pretty optimistic about this one. I think it's pretty cool. I think a lot of really good quality items in this drop.

Yeah, it's going to be, what do they call that? A bank buster or, you know, it's going to be busting the bank accounts. Is that right? Yeah, something like that. Yep, that's what it's going to be. Oh, leave us a five star review on Apple podcasts. Tommy, where do they find you at?

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