Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 452: The Pros and Cons of a Home Gym. Is it Worth It?

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

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If you don't follow Massenomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massenomics. Oh hey everyone didn't see you guys sneak in on us like that. Welcome everyone to the Massenomics podcast, the Lifting Podcasts About Nothing. This is episode 452 recorded from the corners of the Dakotas. Listened to and viewed by millions around the globe. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. We have a banger of an episode,

a special Thanksgiving week episode. This comes out just after Thanksgiving. So of course, since it's Thanksgiving week, we're gonna be talking about the pros and cons of home gyms. No better time for it. Wouldn't that be the obvious Thanksgiving week topic of discussion? I don't even think we even need to mention that people just knew what this episode was gonna be about. Yes, it was just assumed that that's what we were gonna be discussing this week. That will be our title topic so you know what that means?

When the sound of the Sturk hits it's our title topic. So you know what that means? When the sound of the stir pits it's the title topic But first I want to tell everyone about Okay, I'm just double checking dates. So yes If any of these I'm double checking make sure they go through Monday December 2nd Because that's when this episode actually will come out of Sunday and Monday So yes, the strength co the strength got co their Black Friday deals start They have started as of now actually ever recording and they go to the next Monday to December 2nd Here's what they got going on for Black Friday deals at the strength co spend $500 save 50

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weeks ago I meant to ask you something looks different Well, I how far is that wall behind you have no understanding of depth It's actually it's really hard to tell when I look at the the web It looks like it's like 30 inches behind you or is it like many feet behind you? You can almost touch it's like an arm away, okay, I didn't know if you're gonna tell me is like 12 feet away No, no, it's like an arm's length away. Okay. I didn't know if you were going to tell me it's like 12 feet away. No, no. It's like an arm's length away. So yeah, the first stage was, all right, okay, we're going to rearrange this room to a different

layout and I put it over here and for like a week I'm like, I think I like this. And my wife's like, yeah, I don't think that's the spot. And then after a little bit, I'm like, yeah, this is not the spot. So what I'm going to do, I actually have the whole plan. So it's in the spot right now that's not the spot and then after a little bit I'm like yeah this is not the spot so what I'm gonna do actually have the whole plan so it's in the spot right now that's not the spot this is the spot that is definitely not the spot so what we're gonna do we've decided is I'm gonna go back to where I was we got the the layout and everything figured out what actually the layouts not really even hardly changing I'm just getting some I just got it all it's hanging on is I have

to order some prints for the wall something for the backdrop I'm just dragging my feet on that because black Friday is kind of a busy time of year for us so have an example you want a Print a giant print of the old the original Mastinomics gym like the yellow door like behind the door wall Yeah, like where it actually like literally looks like that. It's like a life size. Yeah. Yeah. Where it, where it like looks like you're in the original the yellow door. Oh, actually if you could make that yellow door look like a real door that goes somewhere. That's what I'll do. It'll, the whole thing will just be a print, but then the yellow door will actually be a recreation of the yellow door attached to the wall. So this will move

sometime, but I'm probably going to wait until I actually buy stuff toached to the wall. So this will move sometime, but I'm probably gonna wait until I actually buy stuff to put on the wall so that when it is done, it's done. But the plan is in place. So now it could happen anytime between the next week and a year. So stay tuned. Big Ben posted the Mr. Deeds Butler in our Discord.

And it just reminded me of this week, my six year old daughter, I had like surprised her or something and she go, oh, you surprised me. And I said, Vete Vete Znigi. And she said, what? Vete Znigi. And she's like, what are you saying?

And I'm like, I'm saying Vete Vete Znigi Znigi. Went on for like a minute or two about me. She was getting mad because she wanted to know what I was saying. And I just kept saying that event is sneaky Mr. Deeds Butler classic Okay, so we talked a few black Friday deals already I think it's important to mention our Black Friday deals the black Friday drop we call it the black Friday drop, but really it's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday

is kind of the big, big time. And we talked last week about what we got, but just in case you missed it, Tommy's wearing one of the new shirts. I haven't actually worn that shirt yet. How is it? Very nice. Yeah.

Very nice. I got that as sneaky over there wearing that shirt. What is this? What was the official color of this shirt? Wine is a wine. Okay. I was gonna say that but I'm like, am I wrong? Yeah, so this is the wine gym shirt It's amazing. It's so comfy and just relaxed and nice Yeah, so the wine

G at mass dynamics GMT. Where does it rank now? We've had that shirt on four colors. Oh boy Where's it rank? We had black this one has only major novelty factor royal blue being that it's wine It's wine which is a color we've never done ever and then also it's on the comfort colors, so it's a different fit so this Just on those alone. It might put it at the top of the list for me It probably I've always been of a kind of a purple color fan, too I can definitely see how some people wouldn't appreciate this as much but this this might be at the top of the list now For me as far as the gym teagos Okay

Hmm. I really like it. I'm always a victim of liking the newest ones the most though But I always was a sucker for the royal blue I was gonna say the blue one was always just man. That was a that one was a workhorse on that one. Just great. Yeah. That's still in my rotation. OK, so we had that. The other new T was our

I guess we're just talking about everything because it comes out in the future. So most yeah, was our Crispy Boys New a new return of the crispy boys. The crispy boys. Yeah, we've had we had crispy boys, one point OT. We had crispy boys, two point OT. And this is really just. A remix crispy boys, one point. Oh, we did. It's not like three point.

Oh, yeah. Right. Right. So we got the crispy boys. I think if you look over my shoulder, you can see some stacks of those right now just waiting to ship out to people. I actually rearranged the fulfillment center to get this optimized for D-Day coming here soon so that I can hopefully be fulfilling as efficiently as possible. And those are the two new tees. The two new, well, one of the pairs of shorts is still still secret You have to be in the crew to be able to get that pair of shorts You'll only know about that pair of shorts if you're a crew member and if you are crew member You know what we're talking about. The other pair is the all over print Mesh shorts, which I don't know how else to describe them other than that. How do you describe them Tommy?

Yeah, it's just got a full print all over the whole thing. It's black and like a dark So yeah, it's like a subtle. It's a subtle like from far away people might think you're just wearing black shorts But when you're a little closer, you can definitely tell there's a little more going on with the design. Yeah, they're awesome I wear those all the time and those have the massonomic massonomics written on one thigh and the massonomics circle M logo on the other thigh Pretty pretty gangster. Yes thigh. Pretty gangster. Yes. Pretty, pretty gangster. Then we have the crew neck sweatshirt lifting department.

We have the zip up hoodie in the Metalnomics zip up hoodie. First zip up hoodie we've had again for a few years. A long time. And then we have the Massonomics patch hat. This is on a Richardson black hat. And then this patch is actually 100% embroidered. All the details are embroidered on this one. It's kind of slightly different than other patches.

There's just a slightly higher level of detail on this one, I would say. The detail, it's all in the details. The detail's high, right? Very high. Don't even get me started on the details. All I got time today is talk about the details. Do some people say details? I mean some people definitely do. I don't know maybe that's left British thing. The devil's in the details. Yeah.

Koozies, free koozie. Well, I'm talking about stuff now that won't even matter because some of that stuff will be gone. But yeah, the first 100 crew orders, or the first 100 orders, get a special limited edition magnet. The first 400 orders get a Lifting Department koozie. I also forgot to talk about our Fanny packs that we brought back actually new ones I was taking pictures today comfortably fit three crispy boys in there

Could probably even fit one or two more if you if you really worked at it, but three that's a fourth of a 12 er Yeah, it's you go a third of a 12 Is you only need to do it to the fridge four times as all I would wear three one Across my belly and then two crossways over the chest almost like a Rambo sort of thing I like it situation like it and then you got your full 12 or for the day or whatever Yeah, well, I said only fits three so you'd need four packs So you could just do what one on the back front and one on the back. There you go, right? I like that was that all the new stuff then we also marked several T's gonna be marked down to

$14.99. Yeah, I think that's everything Sweet So please if you haven't bought anything from the drop already what you probably already have but maybe come back a second time Maybe come come for the first time if you haven't already. It haven't yet. It is our most important sales time of the year. It's where our nuts get nutted. So please help us nut on the Black Friday Drop. Right? Please, please help us. Your helping hand can help us. That was our sales pitch, at least this particular sales pitch of this part of the episode. There will be many other many other adjacent sales pitches where that came from. It's all really a sales pitch if you listen hard enough. Basically. Yeah, what do we got next? Oh, boy, there's a lot on here. Okay, fine. One one final thing since we're on the topic of Black Friday here. Do you have any planned Black Friday purchases?

I know years past it used to be, all right, so and so's running a sweet deal, or I know they're going to have a deal. I'll wait. I'm going to buy this then. I didn't know if you had any of those in store for this year. Nothing planned at all, but it's not impossible I could become a victim of the moment. What I've found more as of recently on the equipment stuff is I don't have a lot of strict moment. What I've found more as of recently on the equipment stuff

is I don't have a lot of strict needs. So I will actually, if there's a really sweet deal, I can be enticed in a different way than I used to be able to because I was more budgeted strictly before and I was like, I had a priority list and I'm like, nope, that might be a good deal but I have four things that I need more than that. And now it is kind of like, I don't know, convince me, you know, like,

you know, like make me feel like I need to buy this. Like, is it that much of a deal? So if there is something like that, then maybe, but I have nothing in mind. How about you? Uh, no, I don't either actually. I mean, the, the Texas power bar, Texas deadlift bar is high on my list of something I would want. Yeah.

And now is kind of the time to do it, but I still, I still really want to buy the rep ins and I might pull the trigger on that. I mean, there's no, they're not having black Friday sales deals on those. What's really holding me off on just wanting to buy them is that their orders are out like three and a half months. Like that's the most annoying thing in the world. Yeah, if you could just order it and have them in a week. Yes, I would have, I would have probably ordered them already, but there's something really their orders are out like three and a half months. Like that's the most annoying thing in the world. Yeah, if you could just order it and have them in a week. I would have probably ordered them already, but there's something really annoying

about parting ways with my money and then having to wait many months for a product that's not customized, you know? Like it's just, and I get it, they're just so backed up because it's so powerful. So are they to take, are some people, do some, they have delivered on products. Yeah, I think they started shipping in,

was it October maybe? People have been getting them. I mean, there's several people in the crew that. Yeah, I think they started shipping in, was it October maybe? People have been getting them. I mean, there's several people in the crew that have them, I believe. But I just checked the other day and yeah, if I wanna go order them right now, it says something like delivering like the middle of April or something

and that's not very exciting. No, so probably nothing for you? Not necessarily? No, I mean, maybe if something small I Just don't I don't have any big items. I want to get right now besides the rep in so yeah, that's yeah No, no plans at the moment, okay? anything outside of gym equipment um Actually, that's a good question

No, not really no, yeah, I don't either unless it's like also a Christmas present that I haven't thought of yet. Yeah, it would be something like that maybe, but yeah, I don't have any like purchasing plans for myself as of right now. Okay. I want to do, this is sort of a build off of last week's old man complains about coffee prices. Oh, now I want you to guess the next thing I want to complain about the price of the experience this week. You wrote ranch down. I don't know.

Is this in reference to ranch? Not ranch dressing. No, but you're on the right. You're already you found the right topic here, actually, surprisingly. So complaining about ranch. I don't think you're going to become a rancher. So I don't think you're looking at a country ranch. Ranch, ranch. I don't I don't know. I don't know.

This is so Jack and I went out to eat last night. That I haven't been for a year. Literally walked inside and I go to Jack. I'm like, Oh my god, what since when does it look like this? And he's like, Oh, they did this like a few years ago. And I'm like, wow, I have not been in here in two or three years. Have you been there? Because it is completely different. It's not the one in Aberdeen. We've been, our kids love pizza

ranch in town and that's like the one place they'll actually eat food. So Leah ends up taking them away more than I do. She tends to, for whatever reason reason go when I'm not around But yeah, they probably go once a month at least It's been a couple months now since I've been to a pizza ranch. So, okay, so You probably already know this then but for Jack and I to go eat at the pizza ranch Which for anyone that pizza ranch is regional. So some people don't know what pizza ranch is I know we've talked about it on here a number of times, but just so you don't know, Pizza Ranch has, it's a buffet. You can order

not buffet, but nobody goes there and doesn't get the buffet. Like you go there to get the buffet. Yeah, you might occasionally see the delivery Pizza Ranch van. And you usually wonder why are they getting Pizza Ranch delivery. Why did you pick that to order? Yeah. You usually wonder why are they getting pizza ranch delivery? If you're eating delivery, do not get pizza ranch. They have pizza, chicken, a salad bar, mashed potatoes, corn, soup, soft serve ice cream, chicken wings. They're well known for the dessert pizza, cheese bread, stuff like that. And it's. Pretty good.

Yeah, it's all like, like the pizza is not that I've always been a real I always make the comment that the pizza is not that good for something that's called the pizza ranch I'm like the pizza doesn't like blow me out of the water Yeah, it's fine, but it's also not like the shittiest. No, it's not It's not bad, but you're not like oh my god. This pizza isn't like it's just like it's fine. It's like it's not bad, but you're not like, oh my god, this pizza's like it's just like it's fine. It's like The fried chicken is good. I've always said that the fried chicken is quite good, but The prices have certainly gone up since I used to be a regular I used to go to the pizza ranch a lot like when I was in college and when I was in high school and as one

does and now I go apparently like once every three years and for the two of us to go Guess how much it was Is it like? 12 or 13 a person It might be different for the different time of day, right? Well, we're going to go at we went Sunday at like 5 30 p.m. Okay. Yeah, okay So you're thinking it might be like $25.

Well, for the two of you, I would say yeah, between, yeah, in the ball, at least 25 would be my guess, at least 25. It was $34. $34, really? Yeah, $34. 17 a person? Really? Yes, it was $34. Wow. Yeah. Geez. Really? Yes, it was $34.

Wow. Yeah. Geez. Which is stagger, which I was like, to go out and spend $17 on a person on a meal would not be abnormal, especially if you're going to any kind of restaurant, like it'd be probably hard not to spend that much, but Pizza Ranch doesn't feel

like a place where you would spend that much to go. Especially when I, I mean, this is definitely putting on the old hat thing, but I remember. And that's the theme of this. I remember going, cause we'd always go in high school. You'd just be like $8.

Yeah, I remember, it was like $7.50. Yes. Wow. That's, wow, 17 a person, geez. And I don't know if evenings are more expensive than you go for lunch. I mean, the food's And I don't know if evenings are more expensive than you go for lunch. I mean, the food's exactly the same. I think evenings are more expensive than lunch,

I'm pretty sure, but. Right, but that's, okay, I mean, but based on your reaction, yes, that seems expensive, right? Yeah, I agree, that seems like a lot. I'm curious if it's actually on their website anywhere here and can towns change that, depending depending on you know, I suppose so for their But you wouldn't think Aberdeen would be the place like yep. Here's where we get to really

rake in the Prices pricing model. Yeah Wow, I yeah, I don't know. I I do not know especially when you consider like alright. Yeah. I don't know. I do not know. Especially when you consider like, all right, yeah, I don't know. That just seems like a lot. Yeah. I'm just flabbergasted. Yeah, good. I'm not alone then. Every week I'll come back with a new thing that I'm like, does this seem right? Like maybe some weeks maybe you'd be like, no, that seems that seems correct Yeah, the cop didn't catch me off guard at all Right apparently has because maybe I'm not the one pain when I when we typically go you have to look next time

Yeah, follow up very curious here. Like what would you have to pay attention to the pricing sign? Because I would didn't even to be honest. I didn't even look at it really I just walked in and it wasn't until she hit me with it that I'm like, Wow, it's almost $40 for the two of us to eat here doesn't show I can't seem to find it on the website anywhere. So it's like a really fancy car. You don't even list the price. Because if you have to ask, you know, obviously can't afford it. So yeah, they put the price of their pizza are very out there.

But the price of the buffet is not so maybe there is a little more discretion So maybe that is the case where there is a little more leeway to pick the price of your buffet. I don't know interesting Okay Do we want to touch on if any any other? What do you got a can over there you drinking anything this week? Ah, I am drinking a little something this week got the lime liqueur. Oh I

Got I think I had this a week or two ago. It's what the Waterloo raspberry nectarine Mm-hmm in This fine lime green koozie Mmm, he's not lime green, but green koozie. Mine's not lime green, but my koozie is. Keith put a little something in the Discord. It said buffet prices range from nine to 14 per adult,

depending on the time of day and location. Also probably depending on that being 10 years old. Yeah, the 17. I don't know, every, everyone might just be taking advantage of people there. Maybe they are. Not a whole lot of buffets in town to pick from, so they might say, hey, you know what,

you want a buffet at this stand? Yeah, that's possible. Okay. Some of these topics are actually almost kind of home gym adjacent. Yeah, they are, so I'll just wait on a few of those. OK, yeah, we're just going to. Yeah, I'm just ready to I'm so ready to get into this.

OK, well, let's first then let's maybe do a little supporting our supporting members. We'll do that. This is a relatively new segment of the podcast that we've been doing for about four years now. That's how relatively new it is where we give back to those that support us. You can also support us by going to massonomics.com slash join. That's where you're see there. That's where you'll see our supporting membership options. And it also tells you some of the stuff you get with a supporting membership.

You know, it's the only way you get in our discord. You get a discount code. You get early access to drops. You get some special merchandise that isn't available to anyone but you. We send out mailers a few times a year where you get a little surprise that only supporting members get. All kinds of cool stuff actually. But one of those other things is we talk about some of you each week on the podcast via the segment. So this week, everyone give, please give big Toby a round of applause for making into the

Mastronomics Hall of Fame. The 33rd member of the Hall of Fame, big Toby in Arizona will also be seeing him soon in Crew Falls to award him his cup. Brandon L competed in his second meet. 485 squat, 275 bench, 523 deadlift, all PRs. And it looked like he was with a few other crew members there that were competing or there at the meet. It was Matt, Big Matt, Big Sam, Brown, and there was one more. There was four of them in the picture.

Who was the fourth crew? Was it Lou Nutter? Might have been Lou Nutter. Can't remember though. I don't know if I saw that one. Maybe I'm making that up Can't remember though. I don't know. I might be making that up. And then big chief crew member big chief with with Big Sergeant Anderson and he was there when Big Sergeant Anderson was awarded the Saint Barbara medal. Oh wow. Yeah. prestigious. Yeah, so he won Strongest couple this year at the lift hardly

Classic and now has gotten the st. Barbara medal all in one year. So big deal. What can't he do? Right big flower child competing in powerlifting media at a deadlift PR of 300 kilograms. That would be like 660 pounds also at a bench PR of 190 which would be what? 424 pounds or something like that. Yeah in that ballpark. Yeah, you're with it. One nineties what 380 plus 38 418 or 18. Okay Not bad not bad at all and This week also make sure to check out the unpaid and underrated podcast. It's our bratty little sister podcast.

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Kick-ass mesh shorts. I think they're like as good of mesh shorts out there as you'll find for a number of reasons quality Durability everything like that. So here is an unsolicited along unsolicited review on the shorts That's right. You wanna know how much I thought about the green lifting department shorts after just one workout?

Yep, you guessed it. I'm getting the blue ones for me and my main training partner. That's how good they are. For real, real. You'd have to be a real horse's ass son of a bitch not to get these shorts. I mean really, don't be a fucking idiot

and just buy these shorts. We used to be a proper country with proper lowi, but lower body garments gee damn it then Then the lift guilt happened then the goddamn gales of November came slashing That's when it happened the wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound and a wave broke over the railing and when afternoon Came it was freezing rain in the face of a hurricane west wind. Anyway, I think we all know what happened after that church bell chimed till it rang 29 times.

Gordon Lightfoot wrote the greatest ballad in the recorded history of mankind. It goes on a little bit, but excellent review. Main takeaway there, for anyone that doesn't know, that's going into the SS Edmund Fitzgerald, but which I love, and I also love the review on the shorts. That was top notch. Because the shorts are really great.

The shorts are great. They're great shorts. Very good. Incredible shorts. Oh, thank you, disturbed. So you know what that means. It's time for pros and cons of home gyms in 2024. Are we going to let everyone keep listening live?

Maybe for a few minutes, maybe. Yeah, let's give them a few, not the whole pros and cons list though. So we talked about format. We both made some notes on this. What we're going to do is say a few pros Say a few cons say a few pros say a few cons We're gonna go back and forth like that and I think we're gonna we're trying to be objective about this, right? I've I've I've really been a guy that's the both sides of this session

That's uh, what I think is interesting is you train in a home gym. Now I don't. You used to not for a really long time. You're relatively newer in the home gym process. Less than a year. Yep. So and Masanomics Gym is weird. It's got elements of home gym in a way, but it's not one. So, you know, I have a slightly different perspective probably. And we're kind of in tune with the home gym community. Right. We understand their wants and needs and deep we've been to home gym con. And there's a lot of pros. I also think there are some cons. So at the end then at the end,

we'll decide. Maybe we'll decide which which one which one what side won the battle? Okay, well just kind of keep a loose feeling of a score in our head and see. Right. See where it's at. Okay. So, all right, who wants to be the lead off hitter here?

Maybe you want to go first. Okay. And do we want to start with cons so that we end on pros? Okay. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Maybe we'll run out of one eventually and we have some, maybe there's like, I know where there's not enough

to keep up, but. All right. The first con that I'm going to say on the list is price. And now I think some people, I would say they're not intelligent people. Oh, actually, no, no, no, no, no. Actually I gotta, I gotta take this back before I start insulting. Uh, Coop recently had a video where he was talking about home gyms and how like the number one thing was like, oh, it's a great way to save money.

And man, I know that it is possible, but damn, it is to me a bad way to try and save money. It is, it is so like, it is expensive. And now there's a lot of variables in this. It depends on how much your gym membership is right now and how crazy or cheap you decide to go with your home gym. But I can say as of right now, it's gonna take me many, I'm not even a year into this, and it's gonna take me like a decade to recoup the costs. Now I get it.

And what are we gonna assume you're not gonna buy anything else to add to it? That's if I was done right now and I never bought anything else. And I get it, you know, assuming you buy quality stuff. It does hang on to some Reese, you know some resale value So it's not like you're just dumping money out But as far as actual just straight-up cost to your wallet starting a home gym is gonna put a dent in it for sure Yeah

Key said you can't put a price on convenience, but actually you can I'm sure Key said you can't put a price on convenience, but actually you can I'm sure So as a matter of fact you can I'm a believer you can put a price on anything like it yeah Yeah, I mean if you told me all right you can't have a home gym, but we'll give you a hundred thousand dollars this year I'd say screw it don't even like home gyms. I'm going down the street Don't don't care. I'll take $100,000. Like, anything for a price can be bought. So that's, I think, is the first con. Tanner, you own a gym, you've bought some gym,

pieces of gym equipment. How do you feel about that? Well, that was one of the tops on my cons list also. For everything you said, like, obviously, you know, I have like $100,000 of gym equipment, so like I also to be fair, now transitioning just slightly, I did write it as a pro too, because you could do it. You could do it. If you for someone out there, to be fair, they could do a home gym in a way where the price is a pro, where they do it so budget friendly.

Yes, you could also be a person that lives in a big city and you might go to like a crazy CrossFit gym where it's 200 bucks a month. And you have to commute and maybe it's more significant. We do live. There's a cost. Yeah, maybe there's like this in other areas, but you know, cost of living is relatively low

in South Dakota compared to other places. So like gym memberships aren't for the most part crazy expensive here. And a lot of our listeners are into strength training in the sense that they like to squat bench and deadlift. And some of that stuff gets kind of expensive, but maybe you're the type of person that, you know, their idea of a home gym is an adjust some

dumbbells, a pull-up bar, and, right. And it's like, well, what do they need to pay $60 a month for a gym membership for? More times than not, especially with the people we're talking about with home gyms, it's not saving money, obviously. I would say that that's a con. That was one of the top, one of the tops of my list, to be fair.

All right. So is it pro time? We got the first. Yeah, let's do a pro then. OK. What do you got for a friend? I'm going to say one of the biggest pros right off the bat is just straight up time saving. That's the number one I put on my list. It's that's that was that was the drive for me to do this. Like, yeah, it's nice to have better equipment and have your

own space and all that. But the biggest one for me was, as a person that runs two different business or is part of two different businesses and has two kids and a wife and a dog and wants to wish I had more of a social life and also try to consume some content that I'd like to and just have some fun. Time is just stretched to the absolute max and I can say that having a home gym has made life, has made lifting easier, I definitely have had on any given month

a lot of sessions that I wouldn't have normally been able to get in on that day if I didn't have a home gym. So time saver. I mean to me that's almost actually what you're paying for is the time savings. Yeah and with every single pro and every single con that we list, there could be someone

on either side of the fence that's an exception to every rule. Oh I actually believe a's on my list, depending on who you are, one of the cons is a pro for you and one of the pros is a cons for the next guy. That's what I was experiencing, because time saving is what I put number one on my list, but then I'm also like, for some people,

like in Aberdeen, is that like a huge thing? Right, yeah, in Aberdeen, yeah, right. Because you can get anywhere within. The gyms in the middle of town. I lived on the edge of town. It still took me six minutes to drive there. That's what I'm like. Anytime I go, it takes about five minutes to get there.

Five minutes to get, you know, so it still adds up though when you're on an extreme time crunch. Like, you know, you get there and you gotta get going. Mass Nowak's also has the benefit of you have a locker so you can kinda just walk out the door and go. Where, like when you know, you get there and you got to get going. Also has the benefit of you have a locker. So you can kind of just walk out the door and go where, like when you're going to a gym, you kind of got to get your water bottle ready and you kind of got to make sure you got the right things in your bag and you got, I mean, it's, it's more of a process than mass and I'm mixed where the locker is just sitting there

waiting for you. And if you live someplace, it might be a 30 minute trip to the gym. So you're talking about an hour to make the trip each day that you wanna go. So in a week that could be five hours that you saved on commuting which is very significant. But there again if you're some single 22 year old dude, what do you care, it doesn't matter.

And I would actually say along the lines of saving time, we're talking about just the commuting part here for the most part. The other big one is that, and there's not much of this at Masanomics Gym, but the other part of time saving is you are not sharing or waiting on equipment. So if you are someone that's going for it. That's kind of a separate pro then, really, right?

Yeah, but I mean, it does fall into the time saving. Not sharing. Yeah. Like, if you go to the gym at 5 o'clock, I? Yeah, but I mean, it does fall into the time savings. Yeah. Like if you go to the gym at five o'clock, I would know that if I went to the gym at noon, the last gym that I went to, actually both of them, if I went at noon, basically had the place to myself. I didn't have to worry about anything.

If I, for whatever reason, went later in the day, things got busy, I couldn't get away, and I don't go until closer to five, I know there's going to be a ton of people there. And there's two benches. There's a good chance one, if not both of them, will be taken. For the most part, people aren't very serious.

It doesn't take them too long to get through, but every once in a while, someone is on both of the benches for way too long and that really sucks when you feel like you gotta rearrange your workout or your main lifts around other people. I think that's really fair to be a separate bullet point too though, like to add it to the list because it is a time thing. It also just is like a whole separate annoyance though too, where you're just like, this is just like messing up the vibe of my lift by having to wait for someone else. You know, like it obviously takes time or I can switch and do something else and maybe and then it doesn't

cost more time, but it just it just pisses you off when it happens. You know, it obviously takes time or I can switch and do something else and maybe and then it doesn't cost more time But it's just it just pisses you off when it happens You know, it's like especially like it's especially when it's like people that are just dicking around that's what it's right You're not doing anything here Okay, that's good. What about should I do a con back to a con? Yeah, let's hear you what he got Okay I'm going to say this could be one of the biggest ones for a lot of people Is the social aspect of uh, you know the home gym Where it's there again, it could be a pro to some people if you're someone that doesn't want to be around people

That's a pro, but in my mind when I think about it I'm like, well, maybe eventually it's a con because you're just like, I'd like to lift with somebody else or something like, you know, that's what I think of that as a more potential con than a pro, but for some people it would be a pro. Yeah, this is one, I had the exact same thing on my list that I felt like depending on the person could go either way, but I also had another aspect to this because the lifting alone,

it's not just the social part, it's the lifting alone and part of lifting alone also comes the motivation. And some people, when they're alone, don't lift very well. They're either not motivated or they're afraid to go for lifts that they should be going for. And they're holding themselves back or not training as effectively as they could be. So I totally agree though that I think this is a con. I always, that was one of my favorite parts of Mastinomics was the social aspect of it, of having sort of like

this guys club and girls where you'd go and hang out and just like catch up with people and you kind of knew where everyone was at in their training and you kind of knew. You don't really schedule meeting up with the people, you just show up there and like some of them are gonna be there. Yeah, you just sort of have a good idea that like so and so is probably gonna be here and if I don't see him

today, I'll probably see him the next time I'm here. And you kind of know where people are at with things in their life and with their lifting. And it is just a good way to keep in touch with people. Now, the internet and discord and Instagram has made that much more easy to, you know, sort of make your gym, your alone home gym sessions more public,

you know, where you can share things. But there still is something different about someone actually giving you a spot, giving you a lift off. Well, that's what I was gonna say to go along with it is the spotter, specifically the spotting, you know, from a, and then see a lot of times it's fine. Like you might, when you're at a public gym, you might get a spotter because you can.

And like, especially at Mastinomics, because it's like someone you know, and just like, Hey, can you spot me on this one? And you'll just be just fine to do that set at home without a spotter. But occasionally, you might be like, I'd really like a spotter for this set. And it's been an adjustment for me. It has been like, and now that I'm actually hitting some heavier weights. And I feel like for the most part I have got over it, but if I was starting out early, like now it's weird of me thinking back because we always had a spot,

because there was always people in there, we had a spotter for everything. Right, so you always had a spotter, yeah. You know, especially like on bench days, like just, I mean there was always someone on the spotting platform on bench when you were going, you know, at the very least to give you a handoff. And now to think back,

like if I was just starting to my home gym, that's a really weird thought for me to be like in those foundational years to just be going it alone. Right, right. Okay. What are we back to a pro then? Yeah, it's your turn for a pro.

Oh, a pro. I, okay, flipping this around a little bit, then it's somewhat the opposite of the social aspect, but a different way of looking at it. I would say the privacy. No, I'm just flipping this the other way, but I really just look at it differently. The con is the lack of the social aspect.

The pro is the privacy that you gain, where maybe you don't feel like, I don't really know how to articulate that. You know what I'm saying though on the privacy, like where it's just like. It's just you own the spot. So do you not wanna talk to anyone that day? You don't gotta worry about it.

Do you wanna bust out your camera and not feel guilty at all or weird? Yeah, there you go. That's a good point of what I mean on the privacy. Yeah. I put, I put do whatever you want slash privacy slash filming because there's filming's a really good example of that. Yeah.

You know, you can be discreet about it in the gym, but at the end of the day, some people are just weird about cameras being out. And then also you have to be kind of weird about not trying. I shouldn't say weird. You have to be kind of conscious about not trying, I shouldn't say weird, you have to be kind of conscious about not trying to get people in that don't want to be in. Like filming's always just sort of an odd thing in most gyms.

Don't gotta worry about that at all when you're in your home gym, you can do whatever you want. And then along those same lines, if you want to like try out exercises where you've never done it before, you don't have to feel any feelings of self-consciousness or weirdness about I don't have to feel any feelings of self-consciousness or weirdness about, I don't know how to do this exercise or I'm trying, I'm rigging something up the

way it's not typically supposed to be done. You can try those things and not feel like a dumb ass because you're, you know, you're just in your spot doing your thing. Right, right. Yep. I agree. Con. Con next on the list. Okay. All right.

This is actually for some, again, this is another one for some people. This is a pro. I'm actually, this one's like about 50-50 on me. I could put it in either one, depending on how you want to look at it. But I'll just say con, because I didn't realize it at the time. Starting a home gym, you don't realize you're actually starting a second hobby. And that is the hobby of curating and running a home gym.

Yeah. It's not really lifting even then it's the whole separate hobby of the home gym. There is, there is the hobby of working out, which is why you started it. But with it comes a, another hobby that a lot of people get sucked into. And that is, you know, the curation and collection of the whole thing. And whether that takes you down the road of vintage weights or really expensive high-end shit that is nice, but also not necessary.

Or maybe it's just like, you just are always, a project like I did this weekend, you're just kind of moving around the floor plan and moving mats and like putting things out like you're part interior decorator now. And here's what, yeah, here's what I would say about that. That makes it when I think about it as a con is depending on your goals, but like, I would say we share a common goal that we like to go to the gym because we actually do want to get stronger. You know, sometimes that's not what's happening, but like that would say we share a common goal that we like to go to the gym because we actually do want to get stronger.

You know, sometimes that's not what's happening, but like that is kind of the goal of it. Like there's a goal here and like sometimes that can get in the way of it that you're like, ah, good, an excuse for me to not work hard because I can just like think about this instead. I have a mental thing where I cannot,

I cannot be doing any of the tinkering things while I'm at the gym, because it's just way too easy to just mentally be out of it and be like, Oh, I just took 12 minutes off between sets. Cause I was just like, Oh, maybe I should move this around and like, no, like the second I do that, I've totally moved away from like focused lifting brain to right. Oh, we're just chilling and having a good time. Like I can't, I can't mix the two that it's not how I work at all.

So be aware. I never, that was one that maybe caught me by surprise the most as I thought, no, all I care about is just the lifting and then pretty soon like, well, I need to know what's going on here. I gotta have a, you know, this and this and I gotta be thinking like you're always thinking about what the next thing is and you got the list and you're planning and then you're always like, Oh, could I optimize the space? Can I, if I move this over, could I do this? And then, Oh, does that open up room for the, like, you're just always scheming about the next

thing. And, uh, you don't, you don't do that when you go to a gym, you go to a gym, the, the shit's there. You just use it. You just use it. it You're not you're not supposed to be moving things around and changing things. So be aware Unfortunately, I have that as an issue also even not with a home gym But as a mass dynamics gym that is like the constant battle is like quit working like I came here I it's my one time to get it lifting but I also really have this small project that if I don't do it now When am I gonna do it? Exactly, yes. Yeah, and it's like, that isn't annoying. It is a nuisance in the way of getting in

the way of training, I think. Yeah, but that is one though that, like I'm listening to as a con, like I don't get me wrong, I do enjoy that stuff, you just have to be conscious of it. Don't depend, it also depending on what your goals are, what you're trying to do. But there's some people that lean into that hard

and love that, like they, and it's- Well, I think some people don't care about the training though, either. Their hobby just is the collection of the, you know, just reality. They don't care about the training that much. Yeah, like the training is something that happens. You know, like it's a thing, but it's like they're,

then they probably didn't realize it at the time, but when they started a home gym, like their main hobby became the home gym. Right. And I can totally- Which is okay if that's what anyone can do that Right. And I can, I can totally understand how that can happen. Like I a hundred percent now that I've started going down the road, get how people get there and I can see that. But, uh, yeah, just being aware that that is absolutely a

thing for a lot of people. Yes, I agree. So that was, I was a con. Pro, I'm trying to think of one. Okay, so this one we kind of, yeah, all right. So we said the no waiting, no sharing kind of, kind of, oh, here's a pro right here. Depending on the gym, a pro of a home gym can just be the overall quality of the gear that you have available. Because you are the curator, you are the purchaser, you are the decision maker. You get to do the work. A pro of a home gym can just be the overall quality of the gear that you have available.

Because you are the curator, you are the purchaser, you are the decision maker, you get to have nice stuff. In one area, that least that I've noticed around here, that a lot of commercial gyms really skimp on is barbells. And just something about having a nice, one, just a nice power bar, but then something that's actually aggressive. And then if you to get into the specialty bar game most home gyms suck Sorry, most commercial gyms suck at the specialty bar thing. So

Having a home gym gives you just way better access to the barbell thing The one side you do give up a little bit on equipment. It would be the machines typically a commercial gym is gonna to have better machines, but machines have always been a very, very secondary part of my training. So in my case, that really didn't matter a whole lot. The one machine I do got was the primary machine I would use would be a lat pull down. So yeah, I'm going to say the the bigger biggest pro of a home gym is overall gear quality. say the the bigger biggest pro of a home gym is overall gear quality. Yeah, I basically had that broken down exactly like you pro. I had getting to choose your equipment to handpick it. And for con as far as equipment goes, I said minimal specialized

machines for those that do that. So like if you're into body building style training, you're not going to have Jujimufu's home gym probably. Yeah, you know, so, you're not gonna have Jujimufu's home gym probably. Yeah. You know, so if you're really into- I wish we did, but. Like you said it too, and that's exactly what I wrote down on the comm side,

it's specifically machines, because that's the thing that most people aren't gonna have a lot of in their home gym. You know, some people, there are exceptions to the rule. Some people have enormous home gyms and start to amass like as many machines as a commercial gym But that would be an exception to the rule not the rule

So I think if you're you're not able to really get much for specialized machine equipment But the big pro is I agree you get to curate your equipment The way you you know what you want and not be like this place sucks. They never have any strength co plates You know yeah, they're never gonna get them either like I know It's never gonna happen all the bars are just like the just like the smooth bar that just has like the lines of nerdy netched in There's not actually a knurl on it. They just drew Stuff like that it's a that's that's what you get with a commercial gym Should should I kick everyone out for the rest of these so that some of them are fresh? Oh, yeah, I think so. Okay

they got we're We'll say we're at the half half We're halfway there We got a little bit of We're halfway there. We got a little bit of a... Lifting and drinking is all I know. Hit it like five more times Tanner.

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Now we're on to a con. Yep. OK. I. I'm going to say. A couple of these, it's hard to even parse them apart from each other because I'm like, well, it's kind of saying parse them apart from each other because I'm like, well, it's kind of saying the same thing in different ways. But I'm going to say this is also to the equipment limitation. I'm just going to say the space constraints.

You know, it's kind of the reason you can't have unlimited equipment because you're going to be constrained by space. You know, most people reasonably are going to have only so many square foot to work with in a home gym. So you play this puzzle piece game. There again, some people love to play the game. So that's kind of, you know, it's all about the game and how you play it. But I would say overall, the constraint of space is a limiting factor and a con of a home gym versus at a commercial gym where

they're usually dealing with relatively unlimited amount of space where they're gonna have, you know, they can have 60 treadmills, not necessary, but like they just have this, this open floor plan where they can just put whatever the hell they want to alley hole ways of turf. Right, right. I 100% agree. I also had space written down, and space to me, maybe covers the widest range of things

because space turns into like a cost item, not only from actually spending money, but also an opportunity cost, like in my garage. It's how much of your garage, your actual garage, are you willing to sacrifice? You know, you could go full Nathan Thomas mode who we have a gym tour on where they have basically a two stall garage that's too deep. So it'd be like a four car garage actually. And they have just decided their entire garage is a gym. They don't park any cars in there. They

didn't really have kids. They didn't really have kids toys in there. They didn't have anything. It's just a gym. And I can 100% see the lure of that and the attraction of that, but there's something for me right now that's nice about having two cars parked in the garage, especially when these brutal South Dakota winters

start hitting and you have kids that you gotta run around and so yeah, the space thing, it sucks because you're just always playing this game with yourself of what can I do? Well, okay, so for example there, this past weekend, I added one additional stall mat to my garage. So now I have three that go vertical, so that is 12 feet in width, and then I have three that go vertical. So that

is 12 feet width and then I have two that are sideways. So that wakes it what six by four. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's 12 by 10 is what my space is now and it's a nice even rectangle. I kind of had this stair step thing before. Yeah. And it did eat a little more space the garage not a whole lot more because I did have this weird thing going on before. Yeah, and that's more square. But it does take a little more space in the garage, not a whole lot more because I did have this weird thing going on before. But it does take a little more, and I'm like, God, this feels great.

Like, if I just do this again, how much better would it feel? But at a certain point, you're like, well, but now the kids don't even have areas to put anything, so what it has to give probably next is my car going outside. I'm like, well, my car kinda sucks, so maybe that's not a big deal for it to go outside.

But the car being outside really for where we're at really only sucks in the winter. Honestly, that's what it does. But when it sucks, it sucks bad. You know, it sucks really, really bad in the winter. In the summer, the whole, you know, the rest of the time it's not that big of a deal for if it's like hot, whatever you roll the windows down

It's when it's covered in three feet of snow and it's negative ten and it doesn't start because it's 2009 I know I need to put a new battery in it because the second I'm gonna leave it outside It's just not going to start and that's the whole thing now and yeah And it is really nice when you live in a place like South Dakota when it it's been Blizzarding and like sometimes I can almost forget to put my coat on you can you just know Just like oh and then I'll get out and be like wait a second It's like negative 15 and I'm barely wearing any like I'm like, you know It's really fun is what it's like negative 30 and you're going outside to strap the kids into their car seats and the wind

And the snow is blowing right into the door and the cars freeze. Yeah, that's the worst thing ever. It's it sucks so bad. Yeah, I, as a part of it, I wrote down the space thing though, too, because it's, it's just, there's a lot of garage shit. And like, if you have the gym, then you got room for less garage shit. Or alternatively, you know, South Dakota, most of our houses have basements. A lot of people end up with basement gyms, which that's another option. But there's a space thing there because usually that's a lot of times storage for people or maybe like a second family room

or second living area and this stuff. And if it's a gym, then it's not that stuff. And that's just a prioritization thing of what's. And also your family situation, you know. Right, right. Yeah, just depending on how many people are in your house. So for some people, that's not a big deal, but depending on your thing,

like you gotta think about it. You know, like is that what I wanna use the space for or not? And a lot of, for a lot of people that's like, well, yes, this is what I wanna use it for. This is like my favorite use of it, but it is an opportunity. If you're using it for that, you're not using it for the other alternative options. Yes.

And okay, looking at a pro then. Okay, here's what I have here. This is what I was actually really torn on if I should put this as a pro or a con. Yeah. Because I hate it how people do this for everything now, but I'm just gonna say, actually, okay, I'm gonna say it's an investment.

And when I really mean that, I'm gonna say it's an investment in yourself, in your health more than anything. That is a pro. Oh, you're saying like, you don't like when people, you don't like when people justify things by calling them an investment. Okay.

Okay. Here's an example. I get what you're saying. Okay. Here's an example. I'm going to say Tanner, give me 10 grand. I'm going to invest it for you. 10 years from now, you're going to have maybe 7 grand.

You're like, no, that's a terrible investment. Right? That's not what kind of investment are you saying? It's like, okay. So yeah, like, I don't know if you do pretty good on used gym equipment, you own it for 10 years, like, do you get 70% of the value 10 years from now? Right. Some of it you're maybe getting half the value.

So as far as actually money goes, I don't think it's that good of an investment. People like to say that. I also don't like the mentality that people think everything is investment. Now it's like, you know what? It's okay to have hobbies. You know, like not everything is. It's a weird justification to justify doing anything if you say it's an investment. Just like things can just be fun.

Like, like. Oh, I collect guns cause they go up in value. Yeah, a gun doesn't need to sell them. You know, you know what goes up in value way more? It's like the market. You know, like mutual funds. It's really easy to liquidate the market. Yeah, you have you have 50 guns. Okay, which I'm not saying don't buy guns. Like, is it really like,

are you doing it because it's in like, this is like the best, like, I can't imagine a better and like, you know, like just things that fall into this investment trap would be like fashion things like handbags, shoes, designer clothing. It's like, okay, really that's what you're investing in. Yeah, equipment. I think it's like, yeah, like anything where you're buying quality stuff is that there is some resale value associated with it. Like we have all this camera equipment and gear here, Tanner. I don't think of any of this as an investment from a money standpoint, you know, five years from now, it's worth half

of what we bought it for at best. Right, right, right. But, but yeah, I guess it's an investment yourself in right. Well, in people say it's an investment in your health and stuff like that. But we're talking pros and cons of the home gym versus commercial gym. I don't know if it's a wash almost though, because I'm like, you get a gym membership, you should be able to make that same investment in yourself. Yeah, and that's why I'm saying the pro to me

is the investment in yourself, in your health. Like that's what it's all about. Because if you're spending money, if you're dedicating your home to it, I think that means you're taking a little more seriously than the average person. Right, right. You're more like, so maybe it's like you're more

Likely to use a maybe like to me. That's the pro You're more likely to actually utilize the stuff because you spent this money on it used part of your house like I feel like there's more of an obligation more guilt factor like some right Convinced my wife that I need all this space and spend all this money like I'm gonna look kind of like a dumbass if I'm Not out there actually doing anything. So yeah, that's why I do think it is an investment from a point of your of your health Is it an investment from a? Financial standpoint, I don't really think so. It's insanely expensive a lot of it, but You know, can you sell it back at the price you bought it?

No, just like a marketplace. There's all types of stuff where people are trying to sell it for what they bought it for. It doesn't move. You start looking at that 50% off range, then you could probably do it, but that's also not really a good investment. I don't buy all the mass and I'm extreme equipment thinking that I keep track of what I've got and what it's worth, and I use a relatively discounted rate of what I think that my value is on that. When I'm, you know, when I put it on the balance sheet, like it's, it's discounted pretty reasonably because if I said, no, if I really had to get rid of all of this stuff here in Aberdeen, South Dakota, what am I actually going to get

for that and how hard is it going to be to sell it and who, you know, like, well, and how, how much of your time, how many years of your time do you want to spend offloading all of this? Yeah. And how many misconnections on Facebook of people not showing up and deals falling through like at a certain point, like, oh yeah, I made an additional 10% and it only cost me 50 more hours of my time. Yeah.

Uh, I'll do another pro as long as we're on the pros here. Yeah. I'll do another pro as long as we're on the pros here. I think this is a Massonomics gym isn't a great example as the alternative. But I would say the pro at the home gym is, for a lot of people, is the music. You get to control your music. It's very, very cheap to be able to have some sort of speaker

playing and playing with the way that Bluetooth and streaming services work now, like you basically can listen to whatever music you want to whenever you want to. And that's a kind of a fun thing. I think if you're a home gym owner, I think that's a really good one. I actually forget about that because that was one of my favorite parts of mass and I was forever was having that playlist just bump in, especially most gyms are most commercial gyms. You don't get that well That's what I'm saying is like mass enough. You just get so used to being like no, I'm the DJ I can at least control it like when I'm ready to go if I need my song I can do it and then you go to

commercial gym where it's anything from like just the the regular ass radio to The same classic rock station that plays every single day and you hear the same songs where you get kind of tired of it So going back to a home gym and being Yep here today. We got 60s rock radio Maybe i'm feeling a list a little more zoned out Whatever I can just turn on today's hits and whatever plays plays. Yeah, you're you're the boss. You can do what you want Yeah And one more even just along those lines that just another little minor thing,

and it's kind of like the music to me, but the decor. You also can have, or like vibe. Like you get to, with your complete control, you get to control the decor or the overall vibe, or it's just like, you go to a commercial gym, some have a good vibe, some have a lame vibe. You don't have any control over it. You can control your situation in the sense

that you go to a different gym if one's available. But at a home gym, you curate your whole vibe of the gym even too, where it's just like, oh yeah, this is what I like. I got all the Mastinomics banners up here. That's where that second hobby comes into play. How much time do you spend curating the space? Yes, yes.

Okay, one other con I have is Garages and basements we kind of talked about this but specifically those are usually the most common two places that someone has a home gym You could have a shed. It's a Bit of a different wild card, but I would say in a basement gym You have ceiling height constraints. Mm-hmm For most basement gyms and also just space constraints because getting things into a basement Getting in and up and up and out of the basement. Yeah, so the we know the basement gym We're very familiar with the getting things in and out and sometimes I can suck

Yeah, so you have that in the basement and then the other option, your garage, depending on where you live, the climate control is a, you know, it's not not that it can't be controlled, but it's just, I mean, I think I think it fits in the cons list that either you have to pay to situate it or deal with the conditions. And it could be you live in Arizona and it's 110 degrees and you just deal with that, but I, and maybe some people don't mind it, but I would say overall, it's a little bit nicer to live somewhere where it's about 70 degrees than if it's a hundred degrees or if it's 40 degrees. And I had this exact same one here. I wrote battling the elements because that can mean a lot of things, especially in South Dakota. Uh, you know,

one of the examples you use there was if you live in Arizona, I believe when we're at home gym con, we talked to Mike and he had said, he lives in Arizona. I think he said that he has insulated like Mike. Yep. Nice. Like Mike, he that he has in the slated and lift row podcast. That's the one that he had insulated his single garage stall and then has like a window unit air conditioner or like a portable air conditioner because, and then he said he also had to lift at six in the morning because even then it was still like 90 degrees in the garage, but later in the day it'd be 120 or more. And that's actually straight up not safe to lift in that, you know?

Right. And as far as us here, you know, my last summer, uh, yeah, there were some days that were really hot, you know, once you start getting in the nineties here with some humidity, I know for a lot of places in the country, that's not bad, but when you don't get very much of that, it's hard for your body to get used to it. And, uh, it wasn't, it wasn't like, I mean, there was definitely days you got hot. You know, I had, I had the fan on full blast standing right by it. And as long as the air was moving, you're usually pretty good. Yeah. But also with that, you know, there's some bugs. It's not a Aberdeen bugs, but there's some bugs around. So you got to think about that a little

bit too. You know, you might see a spider or something like that you got to deal with, but that would be the summertime side of things. Now the other side of it is the winter. And that is when things can get really brutal. And that's where that's where I've been been trying to make some plans here. And so I'm happy to say I do have a plan in place Tanner, because for crew falls for crew falls, because actually the time this this episode comes out, that's why I was just looking this episode comes out the very beginning of December

Mm-hmm. This would be the falls on it. Yeah the week Yeah, the week this comes out will be meeting with everyone in crew falls by Friday the 6th I actually might have talked about that some more before we end the episode here. Yeah, but all right the Temperatures in your garage can vary wildly from having no insulation, which basically means you're just protected from the wind to having insulation and no heat to having insulation and heat, which just means it's another room of the house. And those things can all happen to someone.

I wanted to put a heater in my garage. Actually now thinking back, okay, we built this house. This house was brand new. We were the first people to live here. And at the time, it's like, no, I don't have a home gym. I'm not a home gym guy. Why would I ever think of that? And had I known that, would have just put the damn natural gas heater, had the builders

do it. I mean, half the ones do it in new homes anyways, they didn't do it on this one. Should have just done it from the start. That's what should have been happened. So finally decided, okay, I need a heater. And I start calling around places and start getting quotes, have people come here, cannot get a quote for a natural gas heater

in a three-stall garage for less than $4,900 and like five grand. Like, I know the heater you're using, the thing's like $800, like that's retail. Your wholesale's probably less. I'm like, where's the other like 4,200 going? This isn't a week long project. This is like a day project, isn't it?

Tanner, you put one in your house. Yeah, it's pretty fast. Yeah, I had one. I'm like, is labor $500 an hour? If it is, tell me. But I just, I couldn't do it. Like I could not bring myself to spend 5,000. Like I haven't, that's basically how much I've spent on my entire home gym.

And I could not bring myself to spend $5,000 on something that I consider. As an example, right now it is November 25th. I worked out today in my garage with no heat. Uh, my garage stage 50 the entire time it's insulated. Well, it's staying 50. I'm like, I'm already through November. So I'm like December, January, February, actually last year on December, it was still, it rained on Christmas here last year, it would, which means it's still

going to be 50 in my garage. I'm like, realistically, if this was like last year, it would mean I would need heat for January and February and part of March. I started lifting my garage March last year without a heater and I was fine. Right, right. So I'm like, I just can't bring myself to do that. Well, talking to my father-in-law, he's an electrician. He's like, I just put a new two stall up.

He goes, all I did is I put in, I wired in my electric heater. He goes, so when I want to go out there for an hour or two and work on my car or whatever, I just turn it on, let it run for a half hour. I go out, it's warm. It runs for a little bit while I'm there. When I'm done, I turn it off. And you know, because the labor's free.

Right, right, right, right. That really, really helps out the situation. Yeah, you know, so he's like, oh, you know, for 500, we could probably have that heater in. And I'm like, God, 500, I get it. Electrical heats way more, but also $4,500 of heating. Does that take me five years to get there? Six years to get there?

So he's coming for Thanksgiving here in two days. And he is installing an electric heater for me. And I'm excited to have it. Do you have the heater? No, he has it he got the whole thing He did I message him we were talking one or when he was here he's like, yeah, I'll look into some stuff for you and then I I Didn't hear anything from him and I'm like, hey, did you ever find some options? He's like the heaters already in my truck I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, so I'm very excited for that to happen. Because, like I said, not bad right now. But it will be nice to know that if I ever need to crank it up, the

option now exists. Yeah, that'll be that will be very nice. Well, because there will be parts of the winter where without any of it be like any and like, yeah, I'm not also not like super. I'm not like trying to save crazy amounts of money here. So like, yeah, I'm not also not like super, I'm not like trying to save crazy amounts of money here. So like, yeah, even if it's, the difference between 45 and 55 is big. When the gym is 55, like,

I mean, massonomics might be 55. It's like that. Actually today I was down there, I'm like, hmm, I'd have to turn the heat on actually here. I do not need it to be over 60. Like 60 is actually hot, you know? Yeah. So just the main thing is- Why don't you keep the house that much over 60?

Right, exactly. The main thing is when those days do get really cold and like the wind's hitting just right and everything and you're like floating around that like 40 degree mark or lower. Yeah, I can't really lift in here now. It's like, yeah, it'd be nicer to get another 10, 15 degrees in the space.

So that's gonna be the big one. But the whole thing here, where this whole thing is, or lower. You can't really lift in here now. It'd be nicer to get another 10, 15 degrees in the space. So that's gonna be the big one. But the whole thing here where this all started was the con was battling the elements. So you just gotta know, like do you need air conditioning in your space? Do you need a heater in your space? If you're outside, in most parts of the country,

you'll probably be nice to have one of those at some point. And depending on your setup, your build your build your space those prices could vary wildly Yep, okay Oh, I had one I had another Pro Gym rules you might go to some commercial gyms where you can't use chalk or you they don't want you deadlifting here They don't want you deadlifting period or Whatever the rules might be.

Your home gym. You're the boss. Nobody tells you nobody makes up any silly rules for you to follow that you don't want to you are you're the rule maker. Yep, you're not going to show up and there's gonna be some surprise signs sitting there telling you what to do. Right. Right. Yeah, it's not massing up where they're putting up all these passive aggressive signs are actually that was funny I walked into the gym the other day and by the sandbags There was the sign that just a piece of paper up with black sharpie like on top of one of the sandbags

And it just said if you're gonna use a sandbag you need to put it away when you're done. Otherwise, don't use them No, I'm like I didn't do that sign, but I really appreciated the sign. I'm like, well, I hadn't even noticed an issue, but I'm like, I'm glad that someone else noticed an issue and they just knew to make a sign for this. And it does kind of work, cause there was like a Darren pointed out to me at the gym today, I hadn't even seen it.

And it was like, oh, I didn't even make that sign. And Darren goes, yeah, it's funny how even like grown responsible adults sometimes need a little bit of a reminder on things. And I think, and I'm like, oh, I didn't even make that sign. And then Darren goes, yeah, it's funny how even like grown responsible adults sometimes need a little bit of a reminder on things. And I think, and I'm like, yeah, that's true. I think for some people it's a reminder. And I think some people also don't even realize or they're fucking up, you know?

Right, right, right. And then the sign, they're kind of like, oh. Yeah, because you're gonna read that and be like, have I been putting my sandbags away? Like you're gonna think that. You're not gonna just seem like, ah, just like run away. Like you're gonna think that. You're not gonna just seem like, ah, and just like run away. Like you're gonna have a second of intreflection. You know, of reflection.

So then if you're gonna, like you just have to, then at that point you just have to be a D bag to be like, ah, fuck them. I'll just leave my sandbags wherever the fuck I want to. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm trying to see if I, Eddie. What else you got? That's kind of. I got one more.

Okay. I got one last one. And now as I think, it's funny how every one of these, as I think about it, I'm like, is it this classification or is it the other one? But I have a pro that you could be, this ties in with several other things we talked about, but I didn't specifically say it,

a pro that you can be close to your family or close to your pets without the travel and everything. Most of the time, I think that's a good thing. Occasionally, it could be a con in the sense that you're like, I really wanted to get in the zone here and now it's like, you know, I don't wanna take the dog out to go to the bathroom. I'm just making up an example I don't even know. You know, I was just like, you know, I don't want to take the dog out to go to the bathroom. I'm just making up an example. I don't even know. I was like, right.

I've experienced it. I've just been getting ready to get my top set. I'm like getting the camera position. I got the music cranked. I'm about to go and the gradual and my wife is pulling in with the kids from daycare. I'm like, yeah, this is not this. Yeah. We're going to like take this down a couple notches for a couple minutes here And then the kids are gonna be and they might want to do their pull-ups or whatever Yeah, and there might be like this five minute distraction and then once they go inside then it's like, okay Let's restart the whole process here. So overall I think that's a pro it overall. Yes

It is a pro but yeah, you do have to realize that also by being at home, you are very accessible now, so. Yeah, it's like almost too accessible sometimes, possibly depending on the situation, but that is better for everyone involved, probably. That's kind of everything I had on my list. That's everything I got. Should we do the final tally here?

Okay, yeah. Yeah, I think, uh, yeah, the way I'm counting it, I think, uh, the home gym is an overall pro. Okay. So yes, the wind, the yes for get a home gym at all costs, save, do it, dump a ton of money into it. It's an investment. You will definitely get at least 50% of that money back. if you're lucky someday. Maybe let us know for those of you that watch the podcast and don't say, Oh, I sold equipment during COVID. I made a lot of

money. Doesn't count. It's an exception to the rule. That's don't point out the blatant exception that you experienced like, because every one of these you have to understand there are we understand there are exceptions to the rules, but do leave a comment and let us know maybe some pros and cons that we completely left off of our list, you know?

Even, what the hell, for the algorithm, point out your blatant exception to the rule. And you're like, you dumbasses, I got filthy rich during COVID. You dumb bastards. Yeah, so even for the sake of the algorithm, even yes, point out your blatant exception to all of the rules. But yeah, let us know what if there's any thing good that we kind of left off

or anything bad that we left off. Because there might be some people that are like very anti home gym, right? You don't I know there's a lot of people that are very pro home gym. Is there anyone that's anti home gym? That's like, I know there's a lot of people that are very pro home gym. Is there anyone that's anti-home gym? That's like, oh no. I would say, I don't know if I would say it was anti-home gym, but I was kind of the mentality like, yeah, home gyms are sort of overrated,

like even a year ago. That was my thought process. And I still, I mean, I still, to a certain extent they are, but it's just, if a good gym is not close to you, it gets really, I still think at the end of the day, a good gym is not close to you, it gets really I still think at the end of the day a good gym is better I I really do a good gym is really hard to beat but good gyms are few and far between and also Right, there's a good chance Especially if you're in a city a good gym requires a good drive and now you're talking right time

Like if you didn't haven't had a home gym for the last year, do you think your training would have gone worse? Oh, 100%. I don't think I could have. Like it wouldn't have gone worse. I know for a fact it would have gone worse. But also, a lot of that is because of having kids and stuff. Like if I didn't have kids and that stuff going on, like my schedule could just be whatever.

Like part of that, that's, I might say. You could go spend four hours on your gym trip for the day. I'm so constrained. Like you might just want to. Yeah, that's my I might go spend so four hours on your gym trip for the day. I'm so constrained want to yeah That's my biggest constraint is just I'm so my schedule and time is so restricted that the home gym has allowed me to To make it happen, right? So that was your gym size Comment was that that you added your stall mat? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think did I put that I didn't write gym flooring, too Or did you put gym flooring actually?

We that had come from the week prior. I put that because we I had that Instagram post. Oh, yeah Yeah, we could talk about that specific. What about you also had feet is that related to the home gym thing? No, no, that is not okay. We'll talk about that All right, maybe I'll say the gym floor thing then because yeah because I think this is actually kind of relevant to the home gym thing. We had the conversation with Jujie Mufu when we did his home gym tour, where he said, everyone, you know, Coop and everyone's like,

oh, you need to cover the whole thing in- Stalmats. Rubber, Stalmats. And he's like, he's like kind of, he was kind of baffled by that thought, honestly. I think he was like, why would I do that? Like, I would never want to do that. And I'm kind of with him with, I am actually, I feel,

I share the exact same sentiment as him when it comes to massonomics, Jim, that's a lot of times, or sometimes people have brought that up, that they're like, oh, why don't you deck the entire place out in stall mats or rubber flooring? And I'm like, I don't know why. Like I would spend thousands of dollars on that and you know, tends to

God knows how many hours. Yeah. And I don't know what the, I mean, I know what people say the advantage is because they commented, I made that Instagram post, what they say. And I'm like, what are they saying? The advantage is though, like I'm actually genuinely curious. What is the advantage of having the protection of equipment? So I'm like, why do I need that everywhere else?

What's the point of having stall mats underneath the leg extension? What's the advantage? There is not one. What's the advantage of having stall mats underneath the leg press? I wanna know. So tell me.

And the other thing people said, you can make a 100% level surface then so there's no trip hazards because the stall mats are a trip hazard. The stall mats are a trip hazard. They are, you know, because I don't have my whole floor covered in stall mats. So just a portion of it. So where, where that starts and stops, there's a trip hazard there. Yeah. No, I'm not buying that one. I don't buy that one.

Uh, here's what I'd say the con and I'll get to this, but here's what the cons to it at massonomics, Jim are, um, price time. I don't know what the hell the pros are. Like my con is what is the fucking pro? And the pros are, I don't know. I agree because here's the thing, the pro, okay, so people that don't know, the dumbbell area is completely covered in rubber,

in more stall mats. So an area where you would actually drop things onto a floor and both things could benefit from the floor and the objects could both benefit from some protection, the protection is in place. The deadlift platforms are deadlift platforms, not horse stall mats. So the deadlift platforms have that. The racks have actual platforms built underneath them too. Right. So, you need rubber flooring under the bench presses. I mean, some people might say for grip you do, but that floor is also not slippery.

Right. And we have, yeah. I've never had an issue with my feet slipping there. Well, and some people just put the mat, we have. And yeah, there are squares. Yeah, people will put those under the. The other thing, like from a cleaning of the gym, not that it's the cleanest gym or that I clean all the time, but it's a

lot easier to clean the bare concrete floor than it would be if I had 10,000 seams of. Oh, you just take them all. Well, guess what? That's what people and you know how well that yeah tape works good when you're in your home gym and you're the one person there. You know how well that lasts? I can tell you how well that lasts.

I used to, all mine were taped. You'll go, now I've never actually picked up any tape of that, it's gone. And I use the best, you know, but it's getting walked on a hundred times more than some of these home gyms. Yes, like people will get this, is like you, if you use your gym every day,

okay, it gets one person on it every day. A gym like Masanomics might have 50 people on it in a single day. It gets used more in a week than yours might in the entire year. And so like the first time someone runs a bench across it at an angle and rips the tape, it's done. Yeah, and when it's not you, you and you're not the owner

or, you know, like other people, I'm not even saying they're being disrespectful. They don't take the same level of care. They just don't know the limits of how the limitations of the other day. There's other things you can like use those like what they make, like rafters out of where it has the spikes on it. You put those down on the ground and

tap it all together. Or you could get rolled flooring that doesn't have seams. But I'm like, you're talking about, like to do that, you would be spending tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah, it's a lot of money for sure. And at the end of the day, if you spent all that money, I'd be like, is this better? Okay, well here's one of the questionables is,

all right, so you put that down, like Juju said, moving equipment around is a pain in the ass now. If you need to move anything, you gotta actually pick it up because you're either gonna bind those stall mats up when you're pushing everything together or you're gonna rip the tape

when you're sliding heavy stuff on it. Or you just don't do it and you can move things across the cement floor, no problem. Which it's made it, that has made it really easy to be able to move equipment in there for me over the years. And the stuff that gets a very permanent home and we don't want it to move ever. Then I bolt it down.

Right. Right. You know, it's like the bench, the two elite FTS benches are bolted down so they don't go anywhere. The combo racks not bolted down because I actually like that to be moving You know, I like people move that around. Yeah, right. I like it to move around And that you know like I like fucking sliding away from you when you're using it. It's uh-huh, you know, it's But if you want to move it you actually can Yeah, but in a home gym Like your home gym, like your home gym, I think it makes sense to have.

Oh, it does. You are like outlining what the gym is by having that. It's like you're saying this is the spot. Like I even know right whether whether you admit it or not, I notice it like my kids, you know, subconsciously they'll walk around the perimeter of it, you know, like, right, you know, sometimes I'll walk right across it, but there are times where I'll watch them and they'll go around the perimeter instead of taking the diagonal line over the over the corner of it.

And it does, it just does that thing of like, it sets a boundary on top of, you know, protecting everything in the area. But I'm also talking, I have a total of five stall. Right. The scale is always so much smaller in the terms of a home gym too, that, um, but yeah, I get it in a home gym, but in a gym like semi-commercial like that, it doesn't.

It'd be a different story if just a huge roll of flooring, it's like $20, you know? Right. Like if it didn't cost like anything, you're like, ah, I don't know, maybe. But when you're looking at the actual cost of what it is, it's like, man, that's a lot of money to spend for what gain. But my thing then is like, say it was completely free and all it cost was me doing all the work

to get it to move all the equipment, get it installed, cut it, cut it around like all the things in there and get it down. Like what I want to spend days doing that and at the end of it, then I would, I'd be like, what, and I would say, what is, what, what was the net gain here? Yeah, that is a really good point though, actually when you say it is a free. Maybe you'd say aesthetic, but I actually like, there's a certain, there is an aesthetic of like,

certain concrete too. Oh yeah, the mass, not like the concrete of original Massonomics Gym, that was gross. Well that was borderline dirt. Right, the concrete of original mass dynamics gym. That was gross. Well, that like undoubtedly borderline dirt, right the concrete at Massanomics gym now it was painted is a certain it's worn and it has yeah to it It does I mean it is a certain look. Mm-hmm Yeah, I don't know so Jim that's my job for thing don't be tricked by big gym flooring into thinking you have to cover everything

You don't have to there is alternatives to it. But in most home gyms, it probably makes the most sense to pretty much cover your whole gym with it. Yeah, here's just so much smaller. Yeah, it just doesn't take much. Okay. All right, what else we got? Dude, I for like probably the last two weeks, I wake up in the morning feeling like P.D.

Not anymore. I was about to do that and say, nope, nope, you don't want to feel that way. We don't want to do that anymore. I wake up in the morning and like my left foot just hurts. And it's like it takes just a few, I don't know, a few minutes to get everything going. And then I, then I'm good, I'm good.

But it's like, I was gonna kind of limp out of bed and is this part of getting old? Is this what's going on? And that really came, it really, really hit me hard yesterday morning when I got out of bed and I'm like, oh my God, I can't even put weight on my left foot, it hurts so bad. And I'm like, well, this will go away.

So I just kind of hobble around for like making, you know, usually between kind of like going through the cupboards and making your breakfast, by the time you sit down, you're like, oh, I feel fine now. Like, I don't know, it might just be worse even. Like what is going on? And then throughout the day, I'm like limping around

and I don't like to tell my wife stuff because she usually gets all, oh you heard it dude, she gets all, she gets just too worked up about it. So. Send you to the doctor right away. Well she kinda is the doctor so to a certain extent she's, but anyways I'm like oh my foot is just,

I said my heel, like in my arch my heel is just killing me. She's like oh it's plantar fasciitis, that's what she got. I'm like, nah I don't know. in my heel, like in my arch, my heel is just killing me. She's like, oh, it's plantar fasciitis. That's what she got. I'm like, I don't know. She's like, that's what that is. I'm like, okay, well, what do you know, but really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like becoming more familiar,

I gotta let it look and see, get familiar with what it is. And yeah, it seems to be the symptoms here. And so I suffered through it all day yesterday. And then today took a little more of a approach while sitting at my computer. I had the golf ball really working the arch and you know, did some different stretches on it throughout the day. And by the end of the day, you know, after really working the foot over for most of the day, it didn't feel too bad actually. Like yesterday,

by the time I went to bed, I'm like, I actually would not be able to squat right now. Someone told me I had to go squat. It would feel like someone's telling you to go squat on some Legos. Like you're like, oh, that hurts so bad. I can't do that. And even this morning was not too great, but yeah, by the time the day went on,

it was feeling better. So hopefully, hopefully- What do you think was the trigger of it though? That's what I don't that's what I don't know I really don't like you went out and ran five miles. No, all I can think of was the day before I still have Well, you have a pair of you have a pair of ultra boosts I have a pair of ultra boosts I've had for like five years and They still look clean. So I wear them all the time, but inside I know they're like totally shot

And I don't know if it's like the you know, foam it's still squishy and soft but it's like bottomed out so I don't know if it does a weird thing for you and so I was in the garage all day you know I went to tractor supply I was rearranging stuff and then I was even standing on a ladder doing some stuff in my garage too and I don't know if just being on my feet all day on that hard cement did it, but for whatever reason, on Sunday when I woke up, man, I felt it big time. It's getting old. Dude, I know man, it's always hard. It's the best when you just wake up with an ailment

and don't even know why it's there. It was just slowly getting worse and I'm just like, yeah, it'll, I mean my mentality always, it'll go away eventually and I don't know, yeah, it'll, I mean, my mentality always, it'll go away eventually. And I don't know. Sometimes it does. It seems like more often than not, it doesn't go away eventually. No.

Yeah. I still think about my hip though. I think when I moved, like when I moved into my house last year, I remember like we talked, it was like last about this time last year, I'm like, dude, my hip just hurts and it hurt bad for a while to the point where I had to like modify my squat stance and all this. And then slowly after like nine months, there was one day where I'm like, my hip doesn't really hurt anymore.

And it somehow went away on its own. That one did, I have no idea what that was about. But it hurt for a long time. Like if we were sitting in a car, remember when we went to the Arnold this past year? Oh my God, every time we got up, oh, it hurt so bad for like the first 20 steps. And then after that, it didn't feel good. It just didn't hurt severely

anymore. So I don't know, sometimes sometimes you do get lucky and things go away on their own after many, many, many months of doing nothing. That is the best. When you're like, wait, that doesn't really bother me anymore. What happened? You just forget that? I don't know. You got to think, okay, do I just- Does that hurt or do I- Have I just totally moved on mentally

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I guess I'm trying to think how far I'm gonna go back here, but just in the way that it calculates the number of calories you need in a day to the ways you can customize the app. Just nice to see them continually putting in the effort to make the app a great one to use. I still log my food every single day in it. Every meal.

Not intentionally. There's been times where we eat out or something where it's hard to know exactly what it is and I guess. But you make your effort all the time. Yeah, I still put all of them in and that's probably why my weight is holding strong. What's your body weight doing? Depending on the day, anywhere between about 212.5 and 214.

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Yeah, I should really sign up for it and use Masanomics. Dude, you should. I will, I am going to someday. I just am always finding my excuses to not do it. Some days I just get so... I just... I understand. I'm probably lucky in the way that I don't have like this nasty appetite that leads me down the road of obesity like a lot of people have. And I do believe that some of that is genetic. Just naturally I lean towards being a lighter eater. But like, I just, the more I track my calories,

the more I'm like, man, it's as long as you just don't eat garbage, you can keep your weight in line pretty easily. Like, I just, okay, this morning, today, this felt like such a massive breakfast for me. I just, and it was 900 calories. And I'm like, it felt, so this is what it was. Two pieces of bacon, three eggs,

an instant oatmeal packet, a yogurt, a Costco bagel, and that bagel even had a little cream cheese on it, and I also had cheese on my eggs as well. And all that stuff together, we're talking just a little over 900 calories, 58 protein, 100 grams of carbs, 34 fat. And I'm like, dude, I am like stuffed after this meal. Like that's a bigger breakfast than normal for me.

And I could not imagine eating much more than that for breakfast. I mean, I know I could, but also I wouldn't want to like go on with my day and be productive. I could not imagine eating much more than that. And that's like not even hitting a thousand calories. And when you have like Macrofactors giving me about 3,400 calories for the day, like God, and I still have 2,400 to go. Like that's still a lot of food to put down. So yeah. Yeah, it just shows you

some really interesting thing about calories and food and dieting while you're while you're in the process. Yeah, I want to get on that. It's getting started. That's the hard part. It is because it also remembers you know, the stuff that so like you're starting from scratch. So like for me, I can just go to the previous day hit copy, you know, breakfast, copy it all, paste it today, no big deal. And now that you've, now that I've ate some things, like it knows that I've eaten those.

So I can just start typing the first few letters and it's like, oh, is this the food you're looking for? Like, yep, that's the one. And it remembers the last serving size you ate because typically pretty similar serving sizes. So, so much of it now is just like type two letters, click yes, go, and it's in there. Telling yourself you're too busy is the easiest excuse

to get out of absolutely everything you don't feel like doing at the time. Yeah, and it's really this one. I honestly don't know. For me, that's actually what macrophactors, probably the biggest factor for me, has one just, I know, and I've said this before, I know it's brought my fat down and brought my carbs up,

which I think is a net win. So I don't take progress pictures. I do think I'm maybe starting to see just the tiniest adjustments in body composition. I think I am, but some of that, maybe that's just better training too, you know, maybe that's where that's coming from. So for me, it's getting that a little more in order, but probably the bigger one is I'm routinely at the end of the day and I'm at like 2,800 calories. And so with MacroFactor,

I get that last, okay, yeah, we're kind of low on everything. We can make a big ass peanut butter sandwich and yeah, we're at like 350, 400 more calories and like, we're perfect for the day now. Or like maybe I just, it just keeps me more in line from going to my tendencies of not wanting to eat. Are you still riding the cottage cheese lightning at all? Oh dude, yes I am. So actually I have, I think I've just adjusted my body to liking the daisy cottage cheese from Costco

because I keep buying that one because it's in the biggest tub. But I had run out and I I usually do a Costco run at the beginning of the month and then like a mid-month one. So basically I'm going to Costco like once every two weeks and my cottage cheese had ran out somewhat early. And so I went about a week without any cottage cheese, which was annoying because it was like, Oh, this is like a thing that actually helps me get my protein in a day. Like this sucks not having this. So get the cottage cheese. My wife also got some cottage cheese from Target, but it was not the good stuff that you like. It was just the good and gathered the Target brand. And I opened that up. So I'm like, oh, I gotta just see what this is like.

And I don't know if I've been conditioned to like the daisy one, but I actually couldn't eat it. It was so gross to me. It was- See, that's the thing about cottage cheese. It's crazy how like- And I think that's what it is, is maybe get used to a certain formula.

I think you're right. But I actually don't think that was good cottage cheese though. Like the curd was so small. It was so small. Yeah, you don't want tiny curd. It was so tiny. And like the, just the whole thing was off.

The flavor was not good. That was not, it was not good cottage cheese. Cottage cheese, I still would say is one of the most variable foods in that way though. Like it. It's just that, that sauce to flavor to size ratio has got to just be dialed in. Some of them are way too wet too.

I don't like mine soupy. Like some I open up and I'm like, this like soup and the daisies well the daisy It's a it's a thicker soup that it's in it's not yeah I actually can't say for sure I got to try some more before I can really give an honest opinion here And he will be able to a blind taste test of cottage cheese. I think that could be a YouTube video at the point Yeah, I you check out our YouTube video? Our last one that came out was the freedom fitness equipment tour of his facility. I thought that video was really fun. Yeah. Like it's been a while since we shot that and I got

to watch it. I'm like, this was a, you know, Ashton's a good dude. And I thought that there was some, you know, a few funny moments in that video and stuff. And you get to actually see quite a bit about what he's got, like, uh, what a good guy has going on, like building a business and like successfully building a business from the ground up and still kind of like in some of those earlier stages. And, uh, I thought it was pretty fun. Yeah. I now at this point, has it been two? Yeah.

Two months. It's been two months since we were there. So it was, it was kind of like watching it for the first time when I when I went back to edit. And yeah, I enjoyed the video a lot. This next one that's coming out is a barbell comparison of the Aliko $1,200 power bar versus the comparable Hanzu power bar that's also IPF approved that only costs a fourth the price

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we're going to have the golden PP grip gauntlet home gym grip challenge as a part of crew falls December to remember it's gonna be in Tommy's home gym it's gonna have heater in there so we're gonna be so nice and totally sweating I'm gonna take that sucker to 80 we're not leaving until everyone just looks like that we'll have to sauna until everyone is just satisfied with so satisfied at how warm you kept it You know just I don't know is there gonna be ten people there or twenty people But just having them people in the garage is gonna raise the heat already, you know, and we've got the

general Events of the grip gauntlet challenge. It's gonna be this will be a YouTube video. This will be a video This will be a YouTube video. I'm be a video. Yeah, this will be a YouTube video. We're gonna do grippers, grip genie grippers. We're gonna do grip genie rolling thunder handle. We're gonna do blobs. And we're going to do probably a hang, it's gonna be the, I'll give some details on it. There's gonna be a hang for time using the PP

and some other stuff there. So that'll be the main thing. We also do have a dynamometer. Whatever I kept saying wrong. Yeah. Hand grip measuring tool thing. Right, we're gonna have one of those also for fun. It should, some elements we're stealing from our video

with Jujie Mufu and we're just bringing it to the crew. We think everyone should experience that. Can someone cover you in chalk again? Oh God. Also that'll be in your gym and then you got if you even clean it like you also It's in a garage. So it's not that big. I do not have that much chalk to make him that I'll have to tell you To bring some chalk with you. Oh somebody already said they were gonna bring some okay I just have one block and yeah, I don't really use chalk hardly ever It's the tiniest amount on my heaviest deadlift days, which means that I don't use chalk that often

So can we recreate it and just have like Bryce? He's just gonna dump a chalk bowl on your head Started I'm just people show them just covered in powder. It's your own house. Why are you dirty? It's a grip gauntlet challenge I gotta do it how to be ready it's tradition Then we're gonna hang out Friday evening after that. And then Saturday is kind of even the bigger day where we're gonna meet together for breakfast. We're gonna get a Las Campiones gym in Sioux Falls. And we're all gonna lift there together.

We'll do another YouTube video of that experience. That should be a lot of fun. We'll do a gym tour video with Big Casey, the owner and operator there. We're gonna find out about the legal structure of the gym once and for all That's what the tour is gonna be we're gonna be like, oh no, we do not want we're not interested in the equipment Can you get out your paperwork and we can go through up your computer here. We got a legacy stuff Pull up the state of South Dakota and look up up some official documents with the Secretary of State here. And then Saturday night's kind of the final shindigger owner.

Couple locals are coming. Few Mastinomics Gym people are making the trip. You know, we talked about your brother, Flying Ryan. Big Tom from the gym said So he's going to come. Oh, wow. OK. He told me that today. He's like, I got to fill out that form thing you got on there. But I'm planning on coming. So we get big, big Tom there. He competed in the powerlifting meet last year.

This year he's doing the strong man, though. He's got to see he signed up for the strong man. And then Darren is coming also. So wasn't there going to come last year than the store? He was, but it was a it was a very icy blizzard that I barely made it, but it was very sketchy getting there. So I couldn't blame him last year. Yeah, it'll be it'll be fun having Darren make it.

Yes. So it'll be getting a few more of the the Aberdeen western northeast South Dakota natives involved in the action. I did look the other day, cause I was in the neighborhood, I had to go to Best Buy for something and like the gym is right here. I know it's here somewhere. And I drove over and oh yeah, the gym might be 300 feet from the original pancake house.

Really? It's, it's the next building next to like, would, would like would like we won't even get in our vehicles to go I mean you wouldn't have to but would you just pull up and park at the gym and then walk to the pancake house? Actually, that might be the easier way to do it. Maybe I mean it's right There's like a very small alley between the two buildings is all it is. So last year for lunch on Saturday as Those some might remember we did the Costco run and we all got chicken bakes. I know there's been somewhat of a change to their policy.

Are we gonna be able to do that again? Uh, I think so. Like, have they been cracked? Do they crack down on the membership thing? Yeah, now, even to get into the Sioux Falls one now, before you used to just flash your, you know, just kind of hold up your card, and now you actually have to scan your card to get in to the- So are they gonna let us all get in there like that? Probably, because you're still, as far as I know,

you're still allowed the same, I don't think they've changed the guest policy. Like each card member is allowed to bring like three guests with them or something. Oh, okay. So if we got enough card members, we'll be fine. Yeah, I don't think that policy has changed at all. It's just people used to, I think, walk in or or take like their brother's card and not

Yeah, I don't know if there's any truth to this But I've heard even like some cases of people doctoring like their own cards on their phones And it'd be a real sick person to do something like that. What kind of sick bastard would try something like that? Just a real demented, just terrible, scum of the earth type person. I don't know if it's happened, I can't verify it, but I've heard the people have done it. You hear these stories about these sickos out there

and you wanna think they don't exist, but every story is rooted in some type of truth. These sick, sick, tormented bastards. Could just not imagine just knowing that someone like that lived in my neighborhood. They're out like running around in society. They're just out there driving their car like they're a regular-ass person over there

with their doctored Costco card. Makes me sick just thinking about it. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight knowing there's people like that. Okay. I'm waiting for Netflix to come up with a documentary about that one. Disgusting bastards. Uh, so yeah, you can still get in on crew falls if you want to, too. It's going to be fun.

I'm totally looking just like outside of like all the met all the content and You know, it's a thing we run on stuff, but selfishly it's just gonna be a lot of fun It is like it'd be a really good time as hell. So I okay so physically what's your condition like? Oh going into this Yeah, I I'm I I'll be able to do some grip. I'll be able to do the grip challenge Yeah, you don't have to move around much for that. But uh, I'll bench at the gym. I'll be able to do some grip. I'll be able to do the grip challenge. Don't have to move around much for that. But I'll bench at the gym. I'll be able to bench just fine. I've started deadlifting.

Like next time I go to the gym to deadlift, my deadlift will be a plate on each side. And that is giving me no problems whatsoever. Like that's gonna continue to be really easy as I move up slowly. And I'm getting close to where I can kind of do like bodyweight squats. Okay, so you're I can walk around All right, so you're walking around fine. Yeah Like my knee, let's see. So what is that and that's like in a couple weeks are

Yeah, like when we're out standing around for a long time My knee is going to be like like Actually, I'm gonna make though. Yeah, like I will have to find a seat more You know, I'm not gonna be able to stand for like three hours and BS like I will have to get to a seat eventually you know but also I'll have some Pain-killing juice in me so that helps a little bit too. Right, right.

But like in normal, mostly normal stuff you wouldn't even really look at me and know, but I will be feeling it the next day also. Especially after a day like that. We're at the gym all day long, we're running around doing stuff. Yeah, that's a long day. Yeah. It won't limit me too much, but I'll, I'll, it'll, it'll take a couple of days to, it'll, it'll be a minor setback.

But worth it. I also got a tomorrow hop in the car and go to the black Hills. So it'll be like six hours in the car. So are you going to get that functional trainer that was out there? Sold really fast. Yeah, I actually did message about it I'm like I'm gonna be there in like a week and I Messaged him said hey I would even pay you more if you can and I'd pay you now more if you can hold it until next week

And he said it was gone already It was gone already. Yeah, I would buy that though. I don't even know where to put it yet I would like at that price. I'm like we're gonna figure it out. Yeah, was it a parabody functional trainer? Is that what it was? Yeah, there's a paramount or parabody. Yeah, it was one of those What do you want with 300 bucks for it? Yeah, and it looked nice, too I mean it's worth like a thousand dollars I think all day like those are not that cheap what I like about those though. They don't have a large footprint either No, they're not that big really.

And we have a cable crossover already, but it is slightly different. You know, you can do things a little bit differently and like a place like Masanomics Gym, the cable crossover and lap pull down get used a lot. They do. You know, those are always being used. I could see a justification for also having one of those in there Especially when we're talking it's not that big of a machine really no, it's not that big. I would figure it out

I would figure an arrangement to have that in there at that price I'm not dying to go buy one for three thousand dollars or whatever, but dude I could have swore that the same time that I found my lap pull down in the cities I could have swore there was the free motion functional trainers. That's the one people want. Yeah, like that is the originator, I think, isn't it? But I could have swore there was like two of them for sale for like 600 bucks.

Maybe that's all they cost. I thought there were more than that, but I don't know. No, I still, you see them and under a thousand seems rare. Like it seems like they're usually a thousand or more, but I mean, I could. Nathan, did he have the, he had the free motion one, didn't he? Nathan Thomas?

Yeah, didn't they have that one in the corner in their gym tour? Yeah, I don't remember which one it is, but yes. Maybe it was that one. Because Ashton said in the video though, you're asking him about it. Remember he's like, oh, the free motion ones. He goes, they designed him to weigh like a thousand pounds which is oh

So he's like I just hate dealing with those things which I can see how if that actually is what it weighs That it would be a huge pain in the ass moving it. That's true. Especially if you have a full stall mat floor Especially got to move it down some stairs. Oh Just get to the top stair and give her a little push. Yep. Oh, should we wrap this be arch up? I think so. All right, buy all of our new stuff from the new drop. Like subscribe everywhere you find us all that stuff. Leave us a five star review on Apple podcasts. Need to get those five star reviews

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