Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 460: Were They Actually Jacked or Were We Wrong?
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All right, all right, all right.
We're back in the saddle for episode 460
of the Masanomics Podcast, the lifting podcast
about nothing formerly the world's strongest podcast.
My name is Tanner.
And my name is Tommy.
I'm glad you cleared that up.
I don't want anyone to be confused about what this podcast was formerly known as.
When there, yeah, we used to be the world's strongest podcast.
We, I always know we have back catalog warriors, uh, arming themselves for
battle, going through the first 45 hundred and fifty nine episodes prior to this one.
And they might come through those first hundred and some and go,
Oh, what is this? The world's strongest podcast.
Well, the wrong show.
Yeah, we used to be the world's strongest podcast now.
And for quite a while, for several years,
we're the lifting podcast about near Finn.
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Okay, first impressions. Let's get them.
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But what I would say, whether you consider it a pro or con,
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I don't think it's either, it's just a difference,
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Right, which makes sense,
because there's a visible soul now.
Right, right, so sometimes I still really prefer my gen ones because I,
I have grown to really like that feel of like a truly minimalist shoe.
And I really feel that with the Ursus gen one, the gen two doesn't feel quite as
minimalist, but there's also times when I'm like, ah, maybe this style of a shoe
is more representative for the activity that I'm wanting to participate in here.
I could see that.
If that makes sense.
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It's extremely thin.
That's the one we've been rocking
for the past several years.
The Ursus Gen 2 just recently came out.
Tanner, did you get your pair this week?
You just got them, didn't you?
Yeah, I think they came in sometime between the last time
we recorded.
So yeah, they just came in. I've worn them for a between the last time we recorded, so yeah, they just came in,
I've worn them for a few days is all.
Yeah, and that one, the biggest difference,
the upper appears to be exactly the same,
it really is just the sole is just minimally thicker.
The material on the upper and everything feels,
you know, seems exactly the same, yeah.
Okay, and the fit's the same,
it really is just that little more presence of a sole?
Yeah, more presence of a sole,
unlike people with red hair, so.
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Oh boy, we got a lot this week.
We got a title topic coming up.
A real newsie.
A real, real Zim Zam hoedown we got here this week
and we're gonna talk our title topic later.
But first, we've got all kinds of non-title topic things
to talk about, but a little housekeeping. all kinds of non-title topic things to talk about. But
a little housekeeping, I would mention as we're recording our drop is tomorrow. So as
it's come out, our drop has already dropped and they, we talked about a lot of this last
week so we don't have to rehash every bit of it down to the gnats ass, but I would say
again, uh, if we're talking gnats asses, I don't know what it has to do with this, but make
sure to check out our MSS NMX license plate. I did a little research on this and I forgot
where I wrote down my research, so it's almost irrelevant that I wrote, did a little research.
Actually, I do know where I wrote it down. I want to find it. I looked up what years
this was, this exact license plate was. It was actually a lot for this being as
memorable it is to me. You know the number of years that this was actually in production wasn't
as long as you would think. Really? It was you can Wikipedia it you can you know they've got a
really good description a layout of it but I wrote it down here. This was 1996 to 1999.
Really?
Only three years.
Well.
Yeah, but I suppose then they stick around.
You know, it wasn't like.
Yeah, oh, the license plate game in South Dakota is super lax.
So people were probably rocking those until 2010.
Pretty easy.
Well, I occasionally still see this sitting on old vehicles
in the Leeds and places.
Did you know that that's like a thing for people to in states?
Like I was not aware of this until some of the podcasts are that some of the car
podcasts that I listened to and they talk about, oh, you want to get around
emission stuff and like expensive registrant.
You just, you just register your vehicle in South Dakota.
I guess that's a thing people do now that aren't from here.
I guess Montana is another popular one, but South Dakota and Montana are both like, oh, we'll just let you register anything.
Well, that's the rule with South Dakota. You have to live here like one day a year
to be considered a resident. Who was talking about? Was that on the Let's Get
Stupid podcast that maybe that was where they brought us or someone was brought it
up to us. Yeah. Yeah, it's something like that. Do though that is yourself.
I see that right here. Ninety six get yourself a mass-lomac.
I see that right here, 96 to 2000.
There is a slight, or that's what this one says.
Yeah, the one prior to that,
or prior or after one of the other looks very similar.
It's pretty similar, yeah, so that'd be like 92.
But this is the more iconic one.
It is, it is.
This is the one that I recognize.
That's where they perfected it.
But the prior one to this doesn't stick out in my memory,
but this one sticks, like will live rent-free
in my head forever.
And I don't know if that's just because, OK, that was just when we were getting
to the age where you maybe start paying attention to that a little bit, maybe.
Right, right.
I don't know. It is an iconic one, though.
Yeah. So get your own.
It is authentic.
Whatever this metallic material is, it's made out of, I guess.
Is it aluminum? I believe it's stainless steel.
I think it's what it's it's I know it's a volcano
neural pattern on the back.
Yeah. Is it is this aircraft grade or?
I think everything's aircraft grade that we do.
We don't do anything.
That's not everything's aircraft grade.
If you try hard enough, that's right.
It doesn't make sense.
Say a lot for the people in the back, Tanner.
And then we got all of our new stickers
and we never did show off what the shirt is.
Maybe we just leave that in limbo still, or do we show it off?
You could maybe show it. I don't have one.
Do you have one?
Do you have any shirts nearby?
Oh, gosh.
Nope, no shirts in here.
It's all just boxes designed.
Should we show it off then?
Maybe, maybe not a bad idea. It's just
I told RTA that Tanner can still hear
he's digging for the shirt right now, but
Tanner told me when he got the shirt he goes
this is just one of the best looking shirts
and I thought okay, yeah
I think we say stuff like that about the new
shirts and then I got mine in the mail and
I thought this is just straight up one of the
best looking shirts from
the shirt
Blank to the ink color to the ink the way the ink went down just everything on the shirt looks so good
Also we should you showed off one of the new sticker packs the crispy boys of all the
all the cams showed that off last week, but we should show off the
all the cams. You showed that off last week.
But we should show off the other one
that we didn't show that I'm also.
The other sticker pack.
It's going to be a glitter sticker pack.
So the first sticker in the lineup is the raw power sticker.
And these all have the holographic glitter look.
Yeah.
And their die cut as well, really up in the premiumness.
Yeah.
Next one is the Mastinix Lifting Department glitter sticker.
Hopefully that's coming through.
And the last one, the piece to resist all, is the chicken
bake.
Glitter sticker.
There's two grams of protein now and a die cut glitter
sticker.
It's just so excessive in every way, but looks great.
My son was extremely excited about this.
Really?
He liked the chicken bake one?
He put one on his computer, school computer immediately.
That's I mean, that's as high of a praise you can get on a
spacing government property instantly. And then the shirt
brought back out of the vault improved better than ever
possibly our best shirt ever. We both at least until we come out with another new one
For now it is our best ever. It's the massonomics raw power
2.0 edition now on the color for colorful creations
Slightly boxier colorful claims. Wait a minute our. Comfort colors, I'm crossing my wires.
That's actually a different topic I wanted to bring up.
Comfort colors, CC, and what, it's like a gray color.
It might be called graphite maybe.
It's just a, yeah, kind of a dark gray.
And if you bought any of these blanks before,
you know that they're a thicker boxier fit,
which gives it a premium feel. And it's kind of hard to come across on camera
But man just the way the colors are on there and the way that ink is laid down. It is nice
Yeah, that's real nice and we haven't had the Rob Howard t-shirt now for
Two plus years. I think maybe even three
Yeah, and that was always one of my all time favorites.
The only Rob Howard t-shirt I have right now is a large
and that is pretty tight on your boy.
So I need a new one badly.
Yeah, I'm excited about that one, though.
That is a sweet shirt.
And then we still don't know the if the the.
Third round of the certified training facility flags
and packets, we're not sure if that's gonna come out
the same day or it might be a little later down the road.
It depends on when things show up in our timeline.
So that's actually in flux even as of today.
So that'll either be in this drop
or just a little bit down the road
for your third chance at that.
So that is the drop.
And then what are we going to hit back on horse stall mats again this week?
Oh, man.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
It doesn't end.
And part of, part of me looks at the, the home gym Facebook group and says, Oh, we
have, we've infected it with a virus.
We have infected it with this horse stall meme thing.
But then I also watched it and I think,
no, no, this has happened to itself.
Like, it's a number of times it's still,
I mean, it still is a daily organic occurrence.
And it doesn't seem possible, but it is.
And then Coop had a video reference.
What was the, what was this YouTube video?
It was 10 things you should, I don't know if it was, you should not buy or you should not spend money on in your home gym.
Was it 10 things I hate about you?
Maybe that's what it was.
Or is that a popular rom-com movie from our childhood?
That's probably, that sounds more correct.
Quick, who's in 10 things I hate about you?
Heath Ledger I
Don't know I've never seen it I
Goldie Han or is that my even saying or is that a person?
Goldie Han is
Pretty daughter Heath Ledger is in it Julia Styles Joseph Gordon Levitt
You're right that he pled pledger I actually was like 50
50 that's out I'm like I'm not sure yeah I'm not seeing any Goldie Han or oh
you're thinking of um what is her name she's that move Matthew Connick
McConaughey yes I'm thinking of that movie that is also ten things I hate
about you it's just the other it's just a different one they made that's the same movie.
Kate Hudson, God, I cannot think of that name.
What's that movie then?
True Detective.
Actually, that just reminds me,
I'm pretty sure it was the president of North Dakota
sent me a DM one day, or I can day, or he sent me a meme or something,
and it was talking about how before,
one of the big Texas games,
because you know, Matthew McConaughey's always
on the sideline of the Texas games.
Yeah, right.
And I thought it said before one of them,
he was giving a speech to the locker room,
and the meme was something along the lines of like,
this game has already been played thousands of times,
like, you know, given the whole space like, space, flat circle conundrum.
And I'm like, dude, there is no way that he did not, not,
like, say those things.
Like, he 100%, if he gave a speech, he said those things.
Yes.
This game has been played thousands.
This game plays itself every day.
We're just lucky enough to be the ones to play it this time.
Yeah, so that movie is How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah, all right, so yeah, you actually didn't have
your wires crossed that much,
because 10 things right about you,
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, yeah, very similar.
Which one's better?
I actually have not seen either one.
I have seen parts of both of them,
but I've never seen either one.
I've definitely seen How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days,
and that might not be that bad of a movie.
Like as far as having to watch those movies,
and at least for the period,
that's gotta be the better one.
I can't think of the other one.
See, I thought 10 Things I Hate About You
was regarded pretty highly, I thought.
Okay.
But let's go IMDB score.
Which one, Chad?
7.3.
7.3 on 10 Things I Hate About You.
Is that a pretty good IMDB score? I don't know. How to to lose a guy in 10 days, 6.5.
So people may have spoken about you.
It's better, yeah.
I guess people like Heath Ledger.
Yeah, he got that being dead bump afterwards too.
The Joker, he's got that Joker thing going for him.
Okay, enough about shitty romcom movies that we haven't seen
We don't know the names of or the people that are in them
but coupe had a video about
Yeah, okay, so yeah back to the horse something where it just feels like it's a it's a joke that the whole world is in
I know is that Coop's latest video ten things you should?
Some things I hate about your gym or whatever it was the first one
He starts out how to lose a home gym in ten days his horse stall mats his first thing
the first topic is gym flooring and he talks about horse stall mats for multiple minutes of this video and
It just feels like you're beating a dead horse at this point, but
Just went on and on about him. I like how he even said like it's a running kind of a running joke in the home gym
You just put horse on your horse all that's it's yeah, but it's a it's the thing that it just never goes away. I
Went to a well, what do you first of all you got something to drink over there? What are you just
playing a water I was digging through the fridge. I couldn't
find any spark. What are you a peasant?
Kind of feel like one right now. It's like we're it's like I'm
hanging with the pores.
That's right. Oh, sit, and you come in here with
one of those high horse on the La Croix pomfremousse.
Just class over there. Wow. If there was ever a classic, you
know, that's it might not be the best one ever. But I think it's
it's might not be the best sparkling water ever. But I
think it's the one that all others are measured against.
It is, it is the measuring stick.
Is it, turn the can, there's a measuring stick
printed right on the side of it.
Yeah, it says this is about right at
three and a half JD Power and Associates Awards right here.
The original three and a half rating.
You look up three and a half JD Power and Associates Awards
in the Encyclopedia Britannica,
they've got a picture of a La Croix Pompel Mousse
right there.
When you were growing up at your house,
did you guys have a set of encyclopedias?
No, we didn't.
I had some friends that lived on the street that did though.
And every once in a while, you know,
once you start digging through there,
it'd get pretty addicting of, oh, this is cool.
This is cool.
This is like, you just keep going on and on and on.
Now we have Wikipedia for that, but.
Right.
We weren't privileged enough for the encyclopedia set.
Now we have chat GPT.
That's right, yeah.
It's all there.
We had a set of, I think they were like,
ours were even probably old.
Like they were at least a decade or two older than, you know, but like you'd go look at countries
and then the United States didn't have 50 states in it.
You're like, oh, it used to be a proper country.
What like Istanbul, Escantinople,
like where it's like different.
The other one I was growing up was always in schools,
at least for us, the whole Russia, USSR thing
was never quite sorted out
depending on what route you were looking at and what room.
Well, we were just young enough that like,
maybe it was in the 90s on like some of the maps
that are probably 20 years old.
Yeah, the map budget wasn't getting updated.
The maps weren't getting updated every few years.
So some of those borders and labels were not quite correct.
Wasn't a priority in South Dakota public schools to get new maps all that often
But what was I actually talking about what was I talking about
The encyclopedia wikipedia it doesn't really matter what I was talking about, but I did go to a, are you familiar at all
with the Aberdeen Wings?
I've heard of them.
I feel like I'm familiar with their venue for some reason.
I can't quite put my finger on it.
That's true.
Like, do you think we've, in 460 episodes,
have we ever mentioned the Aberdeen Wings?
Like, we had to have, right?
That's actually a really good question.
You would think we have,
but nothing is coming to mind
immediately ever discussing them.
Big Anthony says once we have.
I don't know how he knows.
There it is.
Yes, one time and one time only.
I think the last time I went to one of those games
was probably about 2012-ish.
How were they around that long?
When did they start? Yeah, they were.
It was a pretty new.
It was one of the first few seasons.
And I can't believe they've been around that long.
I feel like they're relatively new still, but it's like, oh, no,
they've been here for like 15 years.
Yeah. I think when I just moved to town is when they were just starting.
So that was like 2010 or 11.
Yeah, OK. It was right there.
But at those times, I had fun the few times I went.
You know, it helped that I was part of a big group group so we had like the the kind of the party area with
Where the beer was flowing and people were there to right have a good time I?
Go to a game. Maybe about once a year
I'll go like when I get free tickets for work and like we have a suite so then there's there's free food and you know
Yeah, you know there again. I don't have to sit with the peasants.
Just really live it over.
Yeah.
And first of all, I did notice it's a little chillier
in there than it was the summer when we were there.
Something about-
Doesn't take a whole lot to be chillier
than when we're there.
And side tangent, but some weather we had been having
this last week, like when I went to that hockey game,
when we left that night, I'm like, it is so cold out.
It was like negative 15 actual temperature
when we left the hockey game.
It feels like, it was the same thing here.
It feels like the one day was like negative 32 or something.
And we can talk more about this later,
but yeah, it was, my electric heater in the gym doesn't hold up the best
when it's negative 32 outside.
What was it like when it was like that?
So I guess we're gonna talk about that more again.
I will talk about it when we get to the juggernaut ad.
That's usually training time.
All right, I do wanna hear about that.
Actually, I've been meaning to just even ask you that
like even outside the podcast
because it's been so freaking cold.
But I went to the hockey game
and what stuck out as hilarious to me,
this isn't the hilarious part,
but I also noticed there's just a lot of people
that go to those, like that place is full.
Like, geez, is it like this every week?
I think it usually is, isn't it?
I think it is kind of all the time.
But the thing that stuck out to me the most at hockey,
they're playing music almost all the time
because there's so many stoppages of play
and every time they do, they play some music.
And I'm like, oh my God, I need to sit here
with a pen and paper because every track that they play
is absolutely a song I could be using for a strong man,
World's Strongest Man montage.
Oh really?
It's just like perfect one after perfect one.
I kept being like, oh my God, these are all excellent choices.
The right mix of nostalgia and songs that everyone knows.
Yes, but then they do it, you know,
they probably played like 30 of them
because every one they only play for 10 seconds.
Like, that's why they're getting the puck ready
or getting everyone hyped up in between.
I'm like, man, and then I wondered wondered do they do these same 30 every single week probably sit here
Yeah, the same order like you hear every every part like the playlist they just start it from the top. It's like oh, yeah
There's that ten seconds of the Beastie Boys song. Yeah, there's ten seconds of that Metallica song, you know, and your sandman
All right.
Now, intro to Sabotage, ah, I can't.
Yeah, you just.
Yeah, yeah.
Run through it all.
Yeah.
I'm just wondering, is it this,
I wonder if you went week to week
if it would be the same order of them even,
where it just, they do the exact same ones.
Probably, actually, that would not surprise me.
If there's a variability of like four songs is all,
you know, it's the same 50, and they just sub out a couple depending on what's going on.
But I did. And I didn't really think about it until it was too late. But I'm like, I should have sat here and been writing these down because these are all the cheat sheet. Just like the perfect ones I need. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, man, you, you cracked the code. You like laid out the formula right here for me. It was right in front of me the whole time.
So great hockey tunes like every bit of every one of the cliche songs like that,
that they could play the hit like everyone in those couple hours.
So that's my hockey update.
That's our sports segment.
Okay.
How about I make this a true sports and book segment?
Oh, wait. So that was the tell me we got books to go with this sports segment.
Yeah, I read a book.
So I just thought about that as I called it the sports and book segment.
A couple of weeks ago, I read a book.
My wife got me a book for Christmas.
It was about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald.
Oh, I did. OK, I did see you had a little snap or whatever about that.
Yeah, it wasn't a very long, you know, it's like maybe 150 pages.
But it was a really it was really interesting.
It was a good read. So can't remember the name of it.
Is this more of a just historical rundown of everything that happened?
Yeah, it was more of a very just historical rundown.
Like it wasn't like a story.
It was like, hey, here's what happened.
Here's what actually in some cases, here's what happened, here's what,
actually in some cases, here's what different groups
believe happened because it's not known
exactly what happened.
But it's like, here's the route they were taking,
here's the time that they left and what they ran into
and like other historic shipwrecks like along their path.
All right, so it was good though?
It was actually really good. Admittedly have become fairly interested along their path and. All right, so it was good though?
It was actually really good.
Was there any facts?
Admittedly have become fairly interested
in the SS Edmund Fitzgerald.
So here's an interesting fact.
The SS Edmund Fitzgerald was made by Northwestern Mutual.
They're the ones that owned the SS Edmund Fitzgerald.
What?
Yeah.
Like Northwestern Mutual as we know it today
or was this a different company?
Well, I mean, at the time it probably was slightly
different, but I think somewhat as we know it today, yeah.
Well, I guess, okay, we're also talking about,
when was it, the 80s?
The 70s is when it, but it would have been built in,
I think it was built in the 50s.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah.
And Edmund Fitzgerald was an executive
at Northwestern Mutual.
Oh really?
That was very common to name the ships
after executives of the companies and that sort of thing.
That's how you know you made it.
You got a boat named after you.
Yeah, it was good.
I don't need to rehash the story of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald,
as I've already done on this podcast before.
But it was just really interesting.
I thought it was a good book.
I would recommend, if you're interested in the SS Edmund
Fitzgerald, you could ask me what book it is,
and I'll actually reference the real title,
rather than just saying the name of the ship over and over
again. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Definitely controversy over how exactly it sank though. So what a different organizations
want to attribute it to different things where
You know there it's split in half
but there's definitely a lot of controversy of whether it's split in half and then sank or
If it's sank all and then split in half and then sank, or if it sank and then split in half.
Yeah, like if it sank because it split in half, sort of,
or, and I don't remember the reasoning exactly why,
but there's particular organizations that want to say
that it did not, it's in their interest to say
that it did not split in half first,
and I can't really remember why that that was the story they were thinking.
How long did it take them to actually find it after it sunk?
A long time to like really pinpoint actually years.
A long time. Well, like they knew generally where it was,
but it was like maybe almost a year until they actually got out, like to the site.
And like, yep, here it is for sure. Uh huh.
And then there was maybe three or four submarine dives
that went down to check it out.
Interesting.
So are pieces of it still down there?
Or have they taken it all out?
I think it's all down there.
Oh, it is?
Okay, I didn't know.
Yeah, I think it's all there.
Pieces are.
You'd have to read the book to really know where they are.
Yeah, you'd have to be there to really get it.
Yeah, that's true. Superior, they said, never gives up her dead.
So, yeah, they're still there. No, she don't.
What do you got something about?
Oh, that was my hockey tunes thing.
Then you had a couple interesting topics in here.
That one, you know, I was curious about I wrote down a little something here
called mechanic and you listen to show. I was curious about. I wrote down a little something here called mechanic. And if you listen to the show.
Are we talking about Dan Mackey?
Not this time.
If you listen to the show while, you know, I have an old saying and it's wrench
every day, baby, and I'm just always wrenching away on things.
And that's what we've always said.
That's just what I've always done.
It's just Tommy's out there wrenching away.
It's been in your blood. I don't even know what he's wrenching on. He's just always I've always done. It's just Tommy's out there wrenching away. I don't know.
It's been in your blood.
I don't even know what he's wrenching on.
He's just always working on something.
Well, I've been-
Turning wrenches.
I've been really working on the old Malibu lately.
Really?
Keeping it road worthy on here on my own.
Did you put on some of those light up valve stem covers?
Not yet. Matt might be on the list,
but we'll see what we can get to.
Those would really spice it up.
So I actually had, I think I told you this
when I was gonna drive to Aberdeen,
I hopped in the Malibu, this was what, two weeks ago,
and my check engine light came on.
And talking about a Malibu here,
the check engine light does not come on.
I have 110,000 miles on it, like that it just runs. You know, nothing slows it down
So that was what they say about a Malibu runs like a deer
Nothing runs like a deer. That's what they always say about them and
So I was a little concerned and I would actually wouldn't I actually wouldn't be concerned at all
But I thought before I go on like a 400 plus round mile or round trip,
400 mile plus round trip in the winter in January,
like maybe I should see if something's going on here.
So I thought I'll just, maybe it needs to warm up,
get some gas in it, you know?
So I took it down to the gas station, drove a little bit.
The light was still on and I thought,
nah, I'm gonna be responsible and not risk this.
So I took my wife's Tahoe and through that time,
been driving the car and it seems to drive fine, but there is a check engine light on which is annoying and
So that I will see we'll see what we got going on here
So the first thing I did is I went on Amazon and bought one of the cheap like thirty dollar
computers, you know for your car so that shows up and I hook it up to it and it gives me a code and
for your car so that shows up and I hook it up to it and it gives me a code and
Look up the code online and people are saying the first thing I see because of course there's forums You know for any car right you make model of course the male of the Malibu forms are hot like that's where that's where
Actions going down. There's a lot of action in there and so I go into the Malibu forums and
Immediately the thing that I'm finding are people like oh
This is the easiest fix you can ever do fix it in five minutes in the parking lot at AutoZone
Another guys is you just take the check engine light bulb
You just open the just turn the computer on and you hit clear the code and you're done
So I'm like well, these are people that know what they're talking about
I'm not gonna mess with this and then I thought about a little more. I'm like, I'll bet I better check YouTube
I'll be the judge of how easy this is and I check YouTube and this part
It was like I can't remember actually what it was called now is some fuel valve something
And this part is directly on top in the back of the engine
I mean it almost couldn't be any easier to get to and I'm watching the video of the guy do it and like yeah
That actually was five minutes
There's only one bolt you have to remove after that. It's just clips
It's three clips to to pop this piece off. Yeah, so then I check Autozone
There's four Autozones in town only one of them had the part I drive to Autozone
I get the part go home pop the things off boom boom boom put it on
It's like a brand new car, baby.
It's just, it's all good.
Did the check engine light go off?
Well, I think it doesn't turn off on its own.
I had to clear it, but it does run.
Oh, right.
Because it did.
It hasn't come back on, but then the test is done.
Yeah, and it hasn't came back on.
And what everyone said is your car will idle a little rough
when that part isn't working correctly.
And my car was, it was idling a little rough.
And so after I did that that it's all good. So
Yeah, pretty much a car mechanic over here
the other thing is my hood the strut to open my hood in the last like month or two has
I'm sure after being what 15 years old like the gas pressure whatever in it has gone away
So that I ordered a strut to replace that so my hood can actually stay open. Oh
Got that and of course, I ordered the one for the trunk deck, not for the hood.
Rookie mistake.
So, yep, got the piece.
I'm like, God, this just seems way too small.
But I ordered the right thing.
I know I did.
And I went out there and sized it up.
And yep, it was definitely for the trunk and not for the hood.
So that one is next on the list.
Well, we basically are clicking clack at this point,
aren't we?
Yeah.
Well, and I replaced the battery in it about a month ago, too.
So it's basically a new car at this point.
Was the old battery, well, I mean, did it need a new one?
Like, was it cranking hard, slow?
No, but I always keep it in the garage, you know?
So it's never really in temps under 40.
And the battery, the last I could, I know I replaced it,
it was when I lived in my old, old house,
and I still had roommates. And that was at least seven years ago
Well, that's pretty good run. Maybe eight or nine even yeah, so
That's what my dad's like. Oh, I think once you get five I consider that like our old time
You got to replace that. Yeah, you're definitely on borrowed time. So that's why did you get what what brand of battery?
Oh my god, don't even get me started here.
I go to O'Reilly's because it's the closest thing to my house. Oh,
O'Reilly. They charge way too much for a car battery.
Yeah. Like $150 or something like that or more.
180 more.
It wasn't $200. It was like 192. Okay. And then,
and then I look and oh oh you can get the exact same
Battery, you know an interstate battery from Costco for like 110. I'm like, yeah
Last time I go to O'Reilly's buy like they're so expensive there But to be fair the last one I got was from O'Reilly's and lasted like eight years. So maybe they'll do it. That's true
You got a 10-year battery out of them. Yeah
So that's uh, it's true. You got a 10 year battery out of them. Yeah. So that's my car mechanic talk.
Car talk on the Masanomics podcast.
We haven't had much good car talk for a while.
I know.
Just not enough exciting things happen in the car world.
No.
I actually thought about, I think I'm actually,
I was thinking about this a week or two ago, and now I think I'm actually,
I was thinking about this a week or two ago
and now I think I'm gonna sit on the sidelines again.
I was like, you know what, I've never done real
in-person shopping for a car.
I've always just, actually not that I've done that,
I've only bought a couple cars my entire life.
So I'm like, this time, I live in a town
with all the dealerships, I'm just gonna take my time,
go to a dealership a weekend, test all these cars out. And then I thought about it a little more, I'm like, I don't time, go to a dealership a weekend, try, test all these cars out.
And then I thought about it a little more. I'm like, I don't have the time to do that.
Also, it's like brand new now.
That was actually what changed my mind.
I'm like, well, I fixed my car.
The check engine lights got, I got like a new car.
I don't even got anything to worry about anymore.
You have no use for that now at this point.
Yep.
There's no point in me even bothering.
Um, You have no use for that now at this point. Yep, there's no point in me even bothering. This week's episode,
actually should I do supporting members?
Yeah, maybe.
I didn't really prepare any supporting
or supporting members this week.
Let me see if anyone said anything in this channel
that no one uses.
Oh, it's very, very targeted talking there,
so I'm sure you'll find something no problem.
I believe a little follow up to Grayson's track achievements.
Big Hannah made it sound like maybe she had
some track achievements as well.
She might just be making that up in order to get herself
on supporting our supporting members.
So I have to debate.
I need to verify that first.
Not anyone can just randomly say they did something.
Like I have to see the official track and field record book first before you get
before you actually make it into supporting our supporting members.
That's right. Yeah.
Big Keith here, he said, like he said,
Big Megan Johnson was on this week's episode of unpaid and underrated
Mastinomics gym member.
Go check that out and give that a listen.
Western, Northeast, South Dakota native tattoo artist.
And they told the so this the supporting our supporting member
segment will be the joke that they told on.
I don't know if I've ever have I told you the Megan joke.
Before Megan is Megan's visually impaired. Yeah, she left. I told you the Megan joke before.
Megan's visually impaired.
She laughs at this joke also, so it's safe, fair to tell on here.
But one of the guys at the gym
that likes to razz some of the other guys
about not showing up.
You know, that's a common thing that comes up.
So I think I've told you this joke.
So for all the listeners that haven't heard it
on Unpaid and
Underrated where where they talked about it. But, you know,
we've got, you know, Massimax Gym at times is a little bit of
an old boys club where people are like giving each other a
little hell from time to time.
At times.
Giving people some shit about stuff. And classic thing is
someone hasn't been into the gym for a while, you know, you
kind of make fun of them for that. oh What do you you found your way?
Like less than a week even it's just
Someone and it could just be because you're going at different times
Like the classic thing is to make someone make fun of someone for not showing up
But it's just because they go at a slightly different time than you the time where you weren't there. Yes, that's yeah
so it's like they can't be there but
different time than you. It was the time where you weren't there.
Yes, that's it.
Yeah, so it's like they can't be there,
but the joke, like to a pick on someone,
you say, well, the visually impaired girl
or the blind girl finds her way to the gym every day,
but you can't make it to the gym.
And I always get a kick out of that.
I thought it wasn't original to me,
but I do get it.
That was a big J original, I think.
It does seem like a big J original, I think. But it does seem like it does seem like a big J one.
And I can see him using that every single time.
Yes. Yes.
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Who is, oh, there's another guy, Big Matt at the gym.
Or one of the Big Matt's at the gym just said
he just joined, he just today came in and said,
oh, finally, I finally hopped on the Juggernaut AI train.
So there's always, I'm always hearing more people
trying it out.
Tommy's using it now.
Tommy, how's it going on Chuck or Not AI?
It's going really good actually.
It was, I'm so sore this week and I'm like,
I don't wanna be in this sore off of a,
cause I just wrapped up, two weeks ago was RP 10,
this past week was a D-load, back at it this week.
And normally I don't really get that sore coming back,
but then when I thought about it,
when I think of squatting, two weeks ago at the gym,
worked up to a heavy set of four and I only did one I cut one of my back down sets off
So I only did that day actually eight working reps, you know, and then last week on my D load was pretty light
You know
It was only maybe I think was like two sets of four two sets of five something like that and then this block for juggernaut
It has bumped up my volume and so I did five sets of five yesterday and
That volume kind of kicked my ass out of nowhere. So I'm feeling that a little bit today
Yeah, so that
And this is it will this be a four week strength block that you just started fun fine four week strength block here
This actually might be my last one. I might start
Yeah, I'm gonna go to go into a peak,
a deload and then a peak.
I believe I do, which is gonna be.
For a testing.
Which is going to be interesting
with the travels we have ahead of us.
Oh no, I actually have two.
Two strength blocks.
Yep, I have two strength blocks left
and then a four week peak.
So yeah, my peak isn't until.
So you've got a little while.
Yeah, oh yeah, April 12th.
I got a lot of time, lot of time.
Yeah, well, that's perfect.
We'll only be on at least three long Mastodonics trips
between now and then.
I know, right?
Nothing to work around at all.
It'll be super easy.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yes.
Actually, and that is true, we will
be on three cross-country trips just now and and then a couple of them, you know about a
couple. Third one's a bit of a surprise at this point. We won't let the cat out of the bag yet. But yeah, we're hitting up
most corners of the US here within the first three months of the year.
There is a gonna be a lot going on. It's like, oh oh going on was really busy, you know
Kind of running two businesses and trying to do this workout program and having kids and a wife and now like that's also like
travel every other week almost
It's I got nothing but time. Let's let's do it
We can we'll sleep when we're dead. Oh
Man, yeah, you can always sleep when you're dead. I've heard
Yeah, and I always say if I can't get it up for just one set might as well start throwing the dirt on me now
Just start scooping the dirt on my old body now if I can't get it up for at least one more set
so
Which leads me back to this when you go to juggernautai.app,
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So, try it out and hit some PRs like Tommy does.
I will say, so now to follow up on that training piece,
the temperature in the garage, you know, normally,
Yes. So, because it has been so damn cold lately,
I usually, this is how it goes for me.
I eat lunch, take the dog for a walk, come back in,
and depending on what time, it's usually somewhere
between one and 1.30 when I get back from my walk.
And so then I'll usually turn the garage heater on
with the idea that, okay, I'm gonna be out there
3 3 30 or something like that. So it'll run for like two hours and
On a day like today, you know when the weather is more tolerable. I don't know What was it like 30 today? Maybe 25. I think it was 25 something like that
Today was not bad. Yeah when I went out this damn near ball me it actually felt like it
I was so bummed I went out there like oh, this is nice weather
Right when I went out into my garage it was and I don't leave the heater running all the
time.
I only turn it on when I'm out there.
When I went out in my garage, it was like 45 out there, 46.
I turned the heater on, it ran for like two hours.
And when I went out to go lift, it was like 62 out there.
And so you're out there for that.
Any warmer than that, you actually get warm.
If you're going out with any type of sweatpants or anything on you know very quickly start losing layers
But when it was super cold the other day
Yeah, I was like the garage what was right around 29 30 somewhere around there
And it that's like the first time you went out actually yeah when I went out in the garage like that was the first time
So I started paying attention that I've ever seen a blow freezing in there, and it was also
Super windy too.
So it wasn't even, you know, the wind was just like-
It's not the cold that gets you, it's the wind.
It's that damn wind.
The cold's not bad at all, it's just the wind.
It's not the negative 15 that gets you, it's the wind.
So that day I turned the heater on at like 1130 or noon,
just thinking, okay, it's probably gonna struggle
to keep up with this.
And by the time I went out to lift, it had been like four hours, I let it run.
And by the time I went out to lift, it was showing like 48 ish.
And it just felt it had come up.
Yeah, it had come up.
And for me, once it's over 50, I don't.
I, you're, you're good.
I don't even care at all, but it was something I think was some, and my
garage is insulated well, but I think it's just
the way that wind is whipping through that the,
it's just the heat does not want to stay in there.
And by the time my workout was done,
I think I got up to like 53, 54, something like that.
But man, when I, you know, I had a top set on squats
of like four, was it 415 or 425?
Something like, it was 405, 405 was my top set.
And even getting warmed up, I'm like,
I feel like everything just hurts.
I can't get warmed up.
And putting my knee sleeves on was a pain in the ass.
Everything was way too cold.
It was tough, but after my top set,
my squats actually felt really good after that.
So did you, have you tried wearing those fingerless gloves to help keep your hands warm?
That's actually not really the problem for me. I've noticed at least on squat,
um, the bar temperature, actually none of them,
the bar temperature is never a problem. Like once you,
once you grip the bar a few times,
your it seems like your body puts enough heat into it that you don't even really
have to worry about it. But, um, but I did in case everyone's wondering I did make
Sure to file off all that pokey stuff on the bars so that if I do wear my glove
That's what I was gonna say if you fell you get a
Get some like a metal file and shave down that that pokey stuff so it doesn't bother your
Proactive here, I'm not I'm not you know being
Reckless about this whole thing
Okay, so but it's so it's only gonna be a problem with the extreme cold
Yeah
So so far the few days a year when it's like the feels like outside is like negative 25
Then it's a bit of a problem
Yeah, I guess if we're gonna say the long-term follow-up of now having this electric
What did I say it was like a 400 watt electric heater or something like that for?
Yeah, it's more for her. Well. I don't know. You're a mechanic not an electric
How many things in one guy know maybe it's maybe was a 4.8 kilowatt hour
Maybe that's what it was a 4.8 kilowatt hour. I don't even remember anymore
electric heater
It went in in November. I would say November through December. It served me perfectly. Well every time I go out
I would say November through December. It served me perfectly. Well every time I go out
The garage is above 50, which is totally acceptable totally good in December year over year. My electric bill was up like $20
So for that also
Totally good. I could live with a $20 increase for the comfort that it brings like that was totally worth it
Yeah, the downfalls would be the extreme cold. It can fight a little bit to keep up.
And this, you know, we're talking to a well insulated garage,
no windows or anything to worry about draftiness there.
But it was, that would be, that's where it suffers
is the very coldest days.
But as of recording right now, it is January 22nd.
I mean, we can have some cold days ahead,
but the days of like negative 30,
there's just not that many of them left out there,
especially when the 10 day forecast
is showing like 30s and 40s.
If we were like a couple states farther south,
a heater like that would probably never not keep up.
Yeah, I think you'd be set year round easy
with just an electric heater.
Yeah.
Heater follow-up.
I knew we'd get to it eventually.
Speaking of getting things to eventually,
should we do a little title topic action?
Yes.
Do we want the listeners on for this one?
Or?
Oh, I am, honestly, I am so sick of these live listeners.
I wasn't gonna say it.
I was thinking it, but I wasn't gonna say it.
I can just see them looking over our,
I can feel them breathing down our necks.
I would love to just give them the boot.
Okay.
I think we gotta give them something to look forward to
for when this recording comes out.
Oh.
Yeah, they didn't get to hear the no mommy this week.
No, no mommy this week
Is what all the live listeners are thinking right now
That's what they feel like when you're kicking them out of the life
I'm the mommy now
All right, so this is the title topic though should I hit him with hit him with it
And we're gonna hit you like that this week
alright Some people don't know this, but
Tanner and I, we got a little idea log that we keep ideas in
for just unknowing amounts of time. And this week seemed like
a good idea to bring an idea out of the vault that has never
been out. We went and grabbed it. Tanner, what was the date?
Let's see.
Yeah, how old was this original idea for this original idea was created February 7th,
2019.
So in like two weeks, this idea is officially six years old.
And we said, this is the week that we're finally going to make this
more of the story.
If you got an idea for anything, write it down.
You never know in six years when you might want to take advantage of that
So I'm gonna ask what was the oldest idea we had in there. Well, that one's pretty old
We wrote that down like, you know what we're definitely going to record an episode every week for the next six weeks
So we have 300 and some weeks to get to this. Why do we need to rush it when we wrote that down?
I was like barely into my 30s
We wrote that down, I was like barely into my 30s. But I wrote that down, I wasn't 30 yet. Yeah.
That's really funny.
Wow.
2019, the world was just so different then.
Oh man, nothing had even gone on yet in 2019.
Everyone was just staying safe and being good.
I'm gonna stay in this way. All right. So the idea. All right.
We're ready for today's title topic. Yeah. What is
today's title topic is people you thought were jacked when you were younger.
And are they really, were they really,
maybe they weren't.
And what was so funny about this idea is I had these people,
these guys in my head, these figures,
and I went back and looked and oh, yep,
we already had them all written down even.
We'd already done the work, it was all there.
So what we're gonna do, we're gonna run through,
we have a few people that you thought they were jacked
when you were younger, and maybe looking back,
maybe this is part of Instagram ruining our brains,
being, paying attention to the fitness industry
as the years have gone on.
Maybe our perception of what's jacked has changed.
For sure.
The field goal has moved as this time has gone on.
And so we're gonna dig into this and see,
were these people really jacked, or do we just not know any better than right so we'll
just run down the list one by one and see what we yeah yeah we got a list and
then maybe at the end we'll hit them with a few people that actually when we
went back and did our research these people actually are pretty jacked we'll
give them a few bonus people at the end here, right? So do you want to pick one first?
Yeah, I'm gonna go with this what this first one right here. I remember
it's all these all these involve some you know memory from
Some point in your childhood or adolescence or something. I remember thinking Brad Pitt and Fight Club was just
Jacked out of his mind. No, it was probably when I watched this movie,
probably like a sophomore in high school.
Yeah, about that.
So what's that, 14, 15?
If you Google Brad Pitt Fight Club,
there's the picture of him when they're in the Fight Club,
he's got his shirt off.
And he's looking back now,
and he's got the cigarette in his mouth.
Looking back now, it's like you're in his mouth looking back now. It's like
You're in good shape, but you're just really lean and you kind of have biceps like
You know he has visible abs, but no pecs or anything. He's just really really lean is what he is
Well, did you see I looked up Brad Pitt height and weight for Fight Club?
Yeah, okay, is that what that actually was yeah, no I looked up if up in Fight Club, what was this? And you know, this is the internet,
so everything's a little subject to being correct or not.
5'11", which is a good, good solid height, 155 pounds.
That is so skinny.
That was me, that actually was me
like my sophomore year of high school.
I was about 5'11", 155 then.
So I can relate.
That is skinny, Terry.
That is very skinny at that height especially.
But yeah, looking back, this is one
that I always thought I remember that scene being like, oh man,
that guy is really jacked.
He's really ripped.
And then you look back, and like, no, no, you're
just a really lean, don't use the term wiry.
You're just kind of a wiry guy at that point when when you play it when you listen along with this
You'll probably just have to like look up images of people to as it goes. We can only paint so many word pictures of men's physiques
We're gonna do our best to paint who are gonna use our brushes to paint some pretty descriptive
This is going to be body. It's a very
is to paint some pretty descriptive bodies for the male body canvas and brush work going on here.
Okay, and all these ones are different,
varying levels of like,
I guess after each one we should recap like,
okay, so he definitely wasn't big.
Yeah, Brad Pitt, he definitely wasn't big.
He was lean and in really good shape,
but he wasn't big at all.
Right, at all. Like, not even at all. Like, barely even, like, not necessarily muscular. If he had clothes on, which he did wear clothes in that movie,
but if you walked by him with clothes on, you would just think he's a regular-ass dude.
You know, you would be like, he's a pretty skinny regular dude.
Actually, yeah.
When he's got his little leather jacket on with the collar and everything, yeah, he's a pretty skinny regular dude. When he's got his little leather jacket on
with the collar and everything,
yeah, he just looks like a regular dude.
Okay, I think this would be a very commonly thought of as,
I mean, I think this one has been busted probably well over
in a lot of people's minds since then,
but classically Vin Diesel.
And his is part of his attitude, I think,
is like comes off as a,
he's a tough guy actor.
Maybe doesn't say a lot, you know,
kind of the strong silent type as far as that goes.
Right, and you don't have to necessarily be big and strong
to be a tough guy, but he kinda had this image
as being a big, big strong guy I think too, right?
That's what I, when I was younger,
the first Fast and the Furious movie,
I watched that thing like a thousand times.
That was, I don't know, probably Vin Diesel's first
big role or his breakout role.
And I remember thinking like, yep, he's the big,
he's the big boss guy, he is tough and scary.
And my reference is, look up the cover for Triple X,
the movie.
Oh, and that felt like that was the that was like a cool trying to make him huge
Like his they show his back and his arm and I'm like he looks like he has like a poster here
Yeah, they're like yeah poster. It looks like he's Jay Cutler. Uh-huh
He's gonna like he looks like a tricep like tricep like yeah, it is dealt
I mean, it looks like a guy that would rep out for 95 on the bench press
He does he does and then when you go to stills from the movie
Doesn't really look like that as much
No, but so here's what I got for stat on Vin Diesel six foot two twenty five, so he's not tiny
That's actually bigger than I would have ever asked. Yeah, so he's uh, you know, that's not
That's actually bigger than I would have ever guessed. Yeah, so he's, you know, that's not,
it's not 5'11", 155, like that is a small person.
Vin Diesel is not a small person,
but they did a good job making him seem bigger
than he ever really was though
with some of the stuff they did, I'd say.
For sure, and I'm looking through these pictures now.
You just gotta type in Vin Diesel XXX
and just go through the Google images.
And I would say, I'm not,
this isn't really hitting me until right now,
that now when guys are in superhero movies and all that,
they have been like on some stuff to get to that point.
You know?
And here he just looks like, I don't know.
Like you're not, you don't have these crazy defined abs
and like just massive, you're not a don't have these crazy defined abs and like just no massive
You're not a sub 10% body fat with just bulging muscles
But also like he does look like he kind of lifts, you know, it's not like a slob or anything. No
Yeah, so I would say early Vin Diesel
He still gets some credit as someone that could could have probably lifted a weight or two, you know, yeah
Yeah, he definitely lifted some completely throwing him under the bus in this game that it's like, oh he wasn't big
Yeah, I'll put him on the line of
Looking back now. I can see how at that time you would think he was this really big guy
I think in real life now, he's just in less good shape. He's probably how old is for gonna?
So, you know, he's not right
So it's easier to look at him now and be like man
I kind of just look like you're out of shape maybe but yeah
He's probably still in pretty good shape for his age even actually, you know, uh-huh
All right, who'd have got next next on the list
We're gonna go. All right, we're gonna we're gonna
Change up the genres a little bit. There is a cult classic movie called Heavyweights.
We've referenced it many times on this show.
It's given us such great lines as,
get these salamis off my back.
Chipmunks, download.
Chipmunks, download.
Get over here here you devil log
Things like that do it to it Lars and that leads us to this next guy
Lars from heavy weight
Lars was one of the
Do you want to say henchmen of Ben Stiller's character?
he was one of the primary one was one of the trainers at the fat camp and he was, I feel like they framed him as kind of like the
Kind of like the European
It's fun. I did a little research. It's funny. It's they can say it's ambiguous as to where Lars is even from because they never
Like German or you know Dutch
Something German it kind of seems like for Lars.
He has this accent, the way he speaks,
and he just, yeah, he's like this European muscle coming in.
And now when you go back and look,
you're like, you're kind of just like a,
I think my brother Ryan said this to me,
he goes, when you go back and watch the movie,
you're not even sure if he's big
or if he just has good posture when you look at it.
It's just always standing very upright, but he never actually seems that jacked at any point.
But in the movies, I feel like he's supposed to come off as the most jacked guy in all of the fat camp.
Yeah. And what I'd say about him as I look at the pictures from the movie.
about him as I look at the pictures from the movie,
I wouldn't know for sure if he's a guy that works out at all or a guy that's fairly young and just kind of naturally
like not fat.
That's just how his body is.
Yeah, that's just what his body looks like.
Where you're like, you don't look out of shape
but you don't particularly look like,
like he probably,
say he could probably put 225 on the bench
and hit it for a single or something like that.
I could see that, yeah, yeah.
Like without even going to the gym.
It seems like a guy that wouldn't go to the gym
and he could probably bench like 225 really poorly for one.
Yeah, that's what I'd say.
You know, butt comes off the bench, really heaves it.
But he did do it.
But he probably like played a couple sports in high school
and that sort of thing.
Like that's what he looks like.
And just has kind of good genetics,
but isn't actually doing anything with it.
Wait, not big though.
Like not even a little, like I can't,
there's not a muscle on his body
that looks like it's particularly big or defined even.
You know, just.
No, it's the whole thing.
He just has a tank top on and has good posture, guess and Lars was six foot tall played by Tom Hodges
Six foot tall is all the time. I just assumed he was bigger than that, too
Okay
We have one in a similar vein to that I'm not gonna go to that I'm a shift again and
Maybe this will rub. We'll see if we can find one that will ruffle some to that. I'm not gonna go to that. I'm gonna shift again and maybe this will,
we'll see if we can find one
that will ruffle some listener feathers.
I'm gonna say Tom Hardy.
Tom Hardy particularly as Bane in Dark Knight.
And so everyone's seen that movie.
There's probably nobody listening to this
that hasn't seen it.
What is Dark Knight Returns, I guess, guess actually is it funny to think the turn? Okay?
I if you're a woman I 100% give you a pass for not watching Batman
But it's really funny to think especially if you're around our age
They'd like no just never saw if you are to say tell me if you've never seen Dark Knight or Dark Knight returns
I could see if you say I never if you never saw
Whatever dark might begins the first one in the trilogy.
Yeah, a lot of people I don't think you've seen that one.
I mean, I feel like you have to watch all three
to appreciate all of them.
I agree, I agree.
This one came out when I was in college.
I had friends, I had friends that
they would watch this movie, I'm not lying, every day.
They would just watch this movie every day.
Like it would, at some point in the day,
they would turn it on.
Sometimes they'd seriously sit down and watch it.
Sometimes it was the background noise.
But I can name people that they watch this movie every day.
That was how impactful it was.
I don't even blame them for doing that.
I don't even think that's unreasonable
to watch this movie every day.
When you're, if this came out,
when you were like in your early 20s and you were a guy,
it's not inappropriate to have watched this every single day. It was a game changer though. This movie was so many people
It was it was just like what I mean dark the the prior movie is I mean to me is still better
But this is movie is also like really good. I think yeah
But so Tom Hardy height and weight as he played Bane
this is kind of shot because But, so Tom Hardy height and weight as he played Bane.
This is kind of, cause there are,
if you have a mental image of Bane,
even Tom Hardy as Bane,
like he's like pretty big you think, right?
Like I remember reading.
Jacked.
Okay, and okay, say the stats.
What was his numbers here?
Tom Hardy as Bane, five nine,
which is not an, is not a short king
or anything like that, but it's not an imposing height,
first of all, to anyone unless you're 5'3".
5'9", 185 pounds.
Which if you're like a high school wrestler,
you're probably like a really good high school wrestler
at 5'9", 185.
That's the ideal body type for that.
But I'm also talking like a high school wrestler at 5'9", 185. That's the ideal body type for that page. But I'm also talking like a high school wrestler.
Not like one of the most badass super villains of all time.
Okay, I remember reading and maybe,
cause there's another one, Tom Hardy,
did you ever see the movie Bronson?
Um, no.
So he's kind of just like Bane without the mask on.
He's this, it's a a story about is he like a
prisoner in
Great Britain, I believe it's like based on a true story
But for that one he kind of has the if you google the picture kind of the like burly
He's got the shaved head and sort of the the prison fitness physique thing going on
And I could have sore for one of these it must maybe was that one that he weighed like
200 or 210 or something like that.
And this was before I was,
I had kind of, at this point,
was kind of going to the gym, you know,
but had not taken anything too seriously yet.
And we were thinking, man,
like seeing Tom Hardy, okay,
he let's just say he weighs around 200 pounds,
being like, oh my God, if I was that big,
I would just, at 6'1", 200, I would be an animal.
And just that seems so insane to me.
And on the other side of it, I can confirm,
I am not an animal at 6'1", 215.
I just feel like a regular dude.
And I would say, you know, Brad Pitt, for example,
you talked about how lean he was,
which he is extremely lean, you know,
it's like his body fat was fricking low,
like in the in-fight club and stuff.
Tom Hardy's body, at 185, his body fat's not even,
I mean, it looks like he's like,
I don't know, 18% body fat, you know, like.
Yeah, it's a bulky look for sure.
It's not lean at all.
So I'm saying, so you're 185 and not lean.
And not overly muscular either.
But to be fair, the way they shoot him in the movie,
he just seems like the most jack guy ever.
But then you look at some of these stills,
you're like, oh, I mean, you look like you,
I mean, you work out.
Definitely, definitely looks like you work,
you can definitely see some delts, pecs uh-huh and some biceps
You know like he definitely looks like he works out for sure
But it's not this larger-than-life image you have in your head going back
It's almost like ruining it for me looking at some of this honestly well it kind of doesn't depict Bane
Fairly because so here's the thing. I just had to look up Bane. You know Bane
outside of this movie prior to the movie in the Batman comics and movies Bane is depicted as a very large and muscular man
Known for his imposing size and strength often enhanced by a special venom that further increases his physical
Capabilities making him one of Batman's most
physically formidable foes
According to the essential Batman Encyclopedia,
circa 2008, Bane is six foot one and 325 pounds
of pure muscle when not on venom.
So 6'1", 325 of muscle would be an enormous man.
Like then you're talking about like people that you walk by
at the Arnold and you're like, Oh my God, is
that you know, like, is that Ronnie Coleman? You know, like,
is that
or or Oh, you do strong man, obviously, but you just weren't
right with being six, five. But yeah, right. Yeah, it's like,
yeah, it's like, Oh, you're Mitch Hooper. At that point.
Actually, yeah, Martins Lisa. Yeah, you just don't have the
height, but you have the size. Right, right. Yeah. Martin's Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. You just don't have the height, but you have the size.
Right. Right.
But that is big.
They may be like six, three, but like a six, one, three, 25 of pure muscle
would be an enormous.
I mean, he's frickin enormous.
To quote Greg, you said that would be enormous.
Greg on the horn.
I mean, Greg probably also thinks Tom Hardy at five nine one eighty five is enormous is bigger than yeah
99% of the population so by default he is enormous
But Hollywood is pretty good at doing that though, too
You know, I mean there obviously because when you watch the movie you don't really get the feeling that he's
No feeling that he's weighs more than 185 like you feel like like I feel like
My feeling when I watch that is I'm watching a 250 pound. Yes. Yes. He feels you know much much larger
When you in every way when you watch that he feels like no less than a
250 pound man, honestly, like I'd say it feels like between a 240 and 280 pound man when I watched that character
But he's 185 which is kind of wild.
At least that's what it said on the Internet is probably wrong.
So I've ranted about one eighty five.
It's not even right. Someone will bet you dumb bastards.
It was two or five. This.
OK, so then I had to look for comparison
because they make him seem like bigger than Batman, you know.
Right. Like which they have to because I mean, it says everything like anyone
that's a Batman fan, they're like, oh, yeah, Bane is This enormously like the most physical imposing character in the world
It said for the for Batman begins Christian Bale was initially 220
But then it said Christopher Nolan had him cut down to 190 for the next two movies. Okay again
I'm not sure how you actually verify that but right, right
So overall so like was Tom Hardy big or what's the final you know? Oh, he was big. What was he big?
He definitely looked like he lifted like we said though. You know like there was no doubt. He was doing some lifting
Yeah, it definitely looked like he lifted. I
Think this one is a maybe a bigger deception of how big he actually was in comparison to right
I think this one is maybe a bigger deception of how big he actually was in comparison to,
the size depicted compared to what he actually was
is maybe this might have the most discrepancy on it.
That's true, I think that you're right.
That's a good way of putting it.
Because if you were to tell me to guess those numbers,
I would have been like,
I'm, he was probably at least six foot,
probably even more, and yeah, like 220 at least.
That's the way it comes out in the movie.
It's a different thing than Lars.
If you go back and watch Heavyweights,
you're like, oh, Lars wasn't big.
He doesn't even look big.
Like in hindsight, you know, it's just like,
he never even was big.
With the Bane, Tom Hardy character,
you watch the movie still in the back,
oh yeah, it looks pretty big, right?
It's like, no, there's some trickery going on.
Who do we got next next next on the list okay I'll go with
internet legend Chuck Norris yeah not actually that big of a guy you know memes
aside and I'll be the first to say,
I haven't seen a whole lot of Chuck Norris' work
in my life.
Tanner, are you very familiar with many of his pieces?
I mean, Walker, Texas Ranger, of course.
Not even that.
I don't even know if I've seen a full episode
of that in my entire life.
Well, I've never seen a full episode,
but I've absolutely seen it on TV before.
Like, it used to be on
TV all the time when I was little. Yeah, I never watched. I never liked it.
I never, it was never in my life been a show that I would have chosen to have watched.
I wouldn't have choose to watch even if that made sense.
But they did definitely present him as, you know, the kind of an action hero kung fu like badass, kind of
beach up kind of guy. And I mean, he has the total gym to
his names. I was gonna say he also the total gym kind of adds
to the whole thing, right? Definitely like that is part of
it is that I also this fitness guru, because he has this
pilates board thing with a cable system on it or whatever.
Also if you look at him and all the marketing in him,
images of the total gym,
he doesn't look remotely big in any of them.
It just looks like now especially,
I'm just looking at this now,
the most 90s middle-aged dad possible.
Like doesn't, I mean, if you're like,
oh this guy doesn't, if you didn't know he's Chuck Norris,
you're like, this guy doesn't lift,
but we're gonna have him come try the total gym. You'd like well. Yeah, obviously you know this person's new to fitness
That actually might be the more shocking might bench 185 for a double
Yeah, that'd be about the the upper limits of that
Like that's I don't know maybe it's more or less than that
but that's just what I feel like if I'm just looking at that
guy and I you walked into the gym and
You're just making assumptions based purely on
Your first impression. That's kind of what I would think
If I ever actually thought that Chuck Norris was big though
Like yeah, but he does more of he's more of just a meme
But he did kind of have the fitness
But he does more of he's more of just a meme. He is more of a me, but he did kind of have the fitness
Right, I don't want to say fitness icon He definitely wasn't that but there was a point in time where Chuck Norris his name was associated with
The total gym and like working out absolutely right and looking back that might have been a stretch
You could find a couple pictures of him
Where he was lean though
Like if you just type in Chuck Norris jacked, there's a couple of older oiled-up pictures
Where he's at least as lean, you know, there's pictures where
He definitely was in shape
Something about him having a lot of like fake generated Yeah I'm having the exact same haircut and facial hair for like 50 years makes it really confusing is this Chuck Norris from?
like
1960 or is this Chuck Norris from
2000 I can't even hardly tell
Right because there's also photos of him where he is not in shape at all
Just looks like the most regular dude ever
With a lot of hair on his chest. No, it looks like for a couple photo shoots They got him actually like they probably got him to lean down and pulled some water weight out and got some
Really oiled up pictures where it's like no you're at least lean. I mean you say a couple photo shoots
I think it's like one photo shoot. I think there's one photo shoot actually
Yeah, I like to Chuck Norris get that reputation of being ripped from one photo shoot
I think that's all it took back in the day. He just had to trick people once and
Two pictures where you look pretty lean
You're set for the next 15 20 years easy here don't gotta worry about anything
Yeah, Chuck Norris didn't we say this step five nine one fifty five so actually all kind of sit
155
I'm sure that flux judging by these pictures that weight certainly fluctuated that and also the beam if you only know about the meme
Of Chuck Norris you probably would think he's a lot bigger more imposing guy than what he actually is right
Because yeah so many when you look at picture, so many of these are just AI generated memes
of Chuck Norris with the most insane abs
and biggest arms ever.
Then when you go back and look,
you're like, oh yeah, that's not actually that guy.
No, no, no.
So Chuck Norris not big.
Still an icon though.
Yeah, an icon but not big.
Like not even like, he is not in the Vin Diesel
or Tom Hardy category of like who's still
Like they lit he's not big now. It really looks like he touched a weight most the time in most pictures
Okay, this one kind of reminds me actually quite a bit of the Lars one
Where it has this feeling when you watch it you're a little kid and you're like, no
This is the big guy because that's what the the show tells me this show that I tell that I watch tells me and that would be the bash brothers for mighty ducks
Specifically Fulton Reed from D1
Later it became the bash brothers Fulton Reed and Dean Portman Dean Portman. I think was actually a little bigger
I'd have to look at what his height and weight was,
but Fulton Reed, as it progresses through the Mighty Ducks,
you know, those kids were like, I don't know,
10, 11, 12-year-olds in the first movie.
What makes this one hard is that we're talking about
like children now at this point.
Right, but those guys get into high school by then,
and I think what the problem was was that actor didn't like,
he was a little taller than some of the other younger
or some of the other young actors in D1.
And by the end of it,
this kid that was supposed to be the big,
that's what had not done.
He wasn't even bigger.
He wasn't even big anymore.
Even relative, like he wasn't even like taller
than the other kids.
Yeah, he had been passed up.
Right.
So Fulton Reed Reed when you watch it
I'm like I'm not sure if there's anything about you that
Any of them that makes makes me think you're the big guy. Oh, he has my trench coat thing out of the bandana
You know that that was it that was it
But Dean portman, am I saying that right Dean portman
And am I saying that right? Dean Portman.
I'm going to look at a picture and see it.
I think, see, I think he was actually.
Yeah, there's there's pictures where those two are together,
where it's Dean Portman and Fulton Reed.
And I'm like, no, the Dean Portman actor actually looks like a big.
It does. Yeah, it looks like he has a bigger frame than the other guy.
Right. And then the one, the original one, what did I say?
His name is now Fulton Reed.
Looks like a little kid compared to him.
You know, like there's a mismatch there.
So Fulton Reed, I'm going to say, was not big.
Not big.
Did not pass the test.
I think you have to cover this one because we made this in
twenty nineteen because it's funny.
The most hilarious to me that it's on here because but it's
only because we made this in twenty nineteen.
This is the most or twenty or twenty.
You know, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty person you could
ever have on here.
I don't even know who this is.
I don't even know if you wrote this or I wrote this or what.
I have no idea.
First I'm like, so aw-
Out of left field now. It does. I saw the name like
I don't even know who this is and then I read the rest of the notes
and I'm like, I might know who this is.
So the one on here
do not know for sure who put this.
You have-
We have Travis Maldonado
Tiger King.
And this is, this is, what is the Tiger King's actual name?
Joe Exotic, this is Joe Exotic's gay lover, isn't it?
Isn't this the boy, the boy he entices to marry him?
Yes, I think so.
And there are some pictures where he kind of
almost looks lean, but, um, yeah, I could see
he's probably a guy that if you worked out, probably could be in, yeah, I could get big.
I'd have like some shoulders on them or something.
Yeah.
But here now I think he's just, uh, what?
Probably 20 just as 20 leanness going for them.
And that's about it.
I just liked that that one's on there because of what just that we had left that one on there for six years or whatever
It is of an era
Yeah Man what a show
Okay
now should we get into our other we have a kind of a different category here and
this is
Guys that we thought were jacked and wait a second it turns out
yeah, they were pretty jacked and I have a my first one is actually more of a tweener where like this is just like the
introduction to this category and I'm gonna say Hugh Jackman as Wolverine,
because there are some scenes and stuff
where he looked enormous.
And there's like, I remember so many things about,
I'm sure Dr. Mike has done a video
on like critiquing Wolverine's workout.
Like I feel like in magazines at the time,
there's all the things about like Wolverine's workout and all that sort of stuff.
And you know, I actually got to pull up pictures.
Well, this one is the perfect example
of how fast things have changed though.
If you look at, there's pictures comparing Hugh Jackman,
Wolverine in the first Wolverine to like Wolverines
from the last few years.
Yeah.
And it's not the same body, man.
Like he has.
Right.
He's gotten way bigger.
He has leaned out and gotten way more muscular
as like the first one.
Doesn't even really look like a guy that's supposed,
like I don't know, you kind of just look like
a homeless dude to be honest.
Like an ill-tempered homeless man here.
I don't know, you got claws or what's going on?
And then these later ones, like, yeah,
you look like you could straight up kill someone here.
Yeah, and I do, you know,
the number I was seeing on him is 62205.
So if you're 62205 and really lean,
I mean, you have to have some muscle on you to,
you know, that's like a really lean 62205
would be someone you see without a shirt off glistening
and you'd be like, okay, you're pretty jacked, I guess.
Yeah, you could look really ripped there.
Right.
I believe there's also a video, this is going way back.
I thought I'd ever seen a video of Hugh Jackbin deadlifting
like 500 or maybe it was like 405 for reps,
like way back in the day.
So definitely had some strength too.
Yeah.
Here it is right here.
Hugh Jackman, Deadlift Workout.
What's he doing on YouTube?
We got Deadlift Training 2014.
We got two reds, a blue and a different one.
So yeah, probably like 405-ish.
So he was moving some weights.
Yeah.
Oh, there's multiple videos here of him lifting.
Yeah, oh, he has, he's doing a maneuver
that I have not seen pulled too often, Tanner.
He's deadlifting, yeah, he's got four,
the video's cut off on the sides,
but it looks like four plates.
He has the mixed grip deadlift with the straps on.
Do you remember that maneuver?
Yeah, classic.
I know Big Shane was a classic big script with straps.
He was the only person I routinely saw do that.
Yeah.
And he always did it
Someone listening if you use mixed grip with straps, tell me why
Do you know anyone that does cuz that is a rarity
Yeah, you can't say we just we just said Hugh Jackman and Shane. Those are the two people on earth that do it. Yeah
Okay, so Hugh Jackman, yeah at at times, you know, kind of jacked. Yeah.
All right, who else do you want to hit on the list?
Some of these were like in the Mastomix Discord,
we had mentioned we were going to talk about this
and people were throwing some names out here too.
All right, actually, so this is one I had to flip-flop on
once I actually went back and looked.
I just had a feeling, because you know, you always think people were bigger when you're looking back on this is
I thought the bad guy from Bloodsport the guy that
Jean-Claude Van Damme fights at the end. I don't even know his name. I can't what is it?
I don't know
Famous movie star but the bad guy at the end of Bloodsport
You know, he's the really jacked one that's beating up Jean-Claude Van Damme and I'm like, there's no way this guy is big
I actually put him on the list before we started as guys that you thought were jacks
I'm like, there's no way and I went back and looked and he's actually pretty jacked
I was surprised how big this guy is you looking at this Tanner? Yeah, I was pulling it up right now
big this guy is. You looking at this Tanner? Yeah, I was pulling it up right now.
Like he's got a big upper body on him for sure. Yeah.
Yeah, he's jacked, right? Yeah, I think so. He passed the test for me, especially when we're talking more of like a Kung Fu kind of movie. Um, a lot of those guys
were more on the really lean side, but this is he's pretty jacked actually
Yeah All right, I'm gonna say
Mark McGuire
Particularly with the Cardinals in that home run
Season run with him and Sammy Sosa
When you look pictures of him his upper body like his forearms and arms are fricking huge.
They are actually, look, just some of these pictures.
Yeah, he looks really, I mean, even his lower body,
I mean, they got tight pants on, but actually, yes.
I'm like, dude, you don't have stick legs at all, man.
Some of these pictures when he's mid home run swing,
like it looks like he absolutely looks, some of these pictures when he's mid home run swing.
Like it looks like he absolutely looks, it's like, ah, build me a home run slugger in the lab.
Yeah.
Well, we kind of did, here he is.
And then when you're done, do you want to go be like DN too
for like a team?
Right.
Yeah, he looks very large in a lot of these pictures.
Yeah, so Mark McGuire was big.
I'm gonna say that. Yeah, there's one.
Especially, I mean, for picky, especially a baseball player.
Yes, there's one of him holding up a kid here from behind.
Yeah, he looks huge.
Yeah, I don't see the picture.
Is it his son?
I know his son was the bat boy for the...
Oh, I say it's a, I don't know, It's a little kid with a bat on the field. So
that was just a regular player. That's what they look like.
Players look like 10 year old children. Yeah. Yeah. He is big. Um, one that I've thought multiple times through the years, was he actually that big? And yes, he is actually that big,
big pop-up pump from WWF.
Yeah, he actually looked like a bodybuilder.
Scott Steiner, he has,
he looks very close to a bodybuilder.
Some of these pictures, he is enormous.
Yeah.
He's very large.
I remember being a kid at the time thinking,
those are the biggest arms I've ever seen in my whole life and
To be fair those probably were the biggest arms. I'd ever seen in my whole life at that point
Yeah, he is huge like he has like the cartoon where like it doesn't know spongebob cartoon We're like muscles come out of his muscles like where you flex and like an extra muscle come pop pops out
I hop of your muscle back. What muscle is that? Yeah, he would go up and do the double bicep pose,
I think, before he got in the ring.
And yeah, huge.
Yeah, Marius Pujanowski was, of course, jacked.
He was.
And ripped, you know, like one of the most ripped
strongmen of all time, if not the most.
Pujanowski was the other one we had on the list,
and that's one you can go back and look at.
Sometimes now, once you get your mind adjusted
to what strong men look like nowadays,
you go back and look at some of the other ones,
you think, ah, you're actually not that big.
You know, because everyone's so huge now.
But Pujanowski, yeah, he's not like huge
the way some of the guys are,
but he's also, his physique is crazy.
And it does pass the test of time.
You know one other one that I'm gonna put
on an honorable mention from our first half
of the discussion is Chris Hemsworth as Thor.
This falls into the Bane discussion
where Bane is supposed to be enormous.
Oh, let me look at this.
How big is Thor supposed to be
Because I believe Thor is probably huge like a literally like a Norse mythology very large compared to humans
Six foot six in comics, so I don't know I'm finding different things, but very large, but
Chris Hemsworth s thor is six three two twenty
so I'm like
Really that big though. Yeah, which I'm like is not small, but I just
It's also the Hollywood thing like you don't you're not getting actor
You know if you look like Batista
So the Hollywood thing, like you don't, you're not getting actor, you know,
if you look like a Batista,
then you're typecast into certain roles.
Like you're not gonna be get to be Thor
or whatever, how that works.
But you know, sometimes when I'm like,
well, Thor is supposed to be this larger
than a human being character.
Like, he should look like half Thor, you know?
Like that's what Thor is supposed to look like.
I mean, yes, six, three, six, three, two, twenty, not that not small, though, either.
No, it's not actually a surprise.
He is supposedly that big because that's yeah.
I mean, as far as Hollywood goes, that's like a giant compared to a lot of people that you I mean,
if he's standing next to Tom Hardy, he would look like a giant, you know.
Right. But yeah, that's I think that's one of to Tom Hardy, he would look like a giant, you know? Right, true.
But yeah, I think that's one of them too,
where if you looked at,
if you compared the Thor physique through the years,
I'm sure that's another one that's just gotten more
and more extreme as time has gone on.
Right.
Well, yeah.
So how much is Thor supposed to weigh?
The son of Odin uses his might abilities as God of thunder to direct his home
Asgard and planet earth like
640 pounds
But yeah, he is pretty jacked and a lot of these actually depending where you look at him some he just looks really lean
But other ones he looks
Really jacked too, right?
Okay, anyone else we need to I actually have one I forgot to put on the list people you thought were probably jacked
But turns out yeah, not really that would be a lot of people a lot of the guys from the cast of Jersey Shore
I remember the time being like oh, yeah, those guys hit the gym, they work out hard. Mike the Situation has the whole abs thing,
that's like what he's known for.
And now when you go back and look,
like yeah, I mean he had,
here if you go Mike the Situation abs,
there's like whole things about it.
But now you're like, I don't know,
you kind of have abs I guess. He now I don't know. You kind of have abs, I guess.
He had pretty big arms, though.
He did have pretty big arms.
But and yes, I mean, I
should actually should knock this.
They actually were fairly jacked.
But I remember the time it seemed
like to me as a guy that wasn't
really working out in working out
that hard in probably what, 2010,
11, something when this was on
Everything and all man. These guys are like really really built like they're like damn your bodybuilders. It's like well, no not quite here
Okay, I did have one more because this one popped up in the discord earlier and I wanted to look it up
If you ever anyone that was a saved by the bell fan AC Slater
was like King of the school for his like amazing size.
What's that actor's name?
He's a he's a.
He's later.
Yeah, what the hell is this?
Mario Lopez. There you go.
How big is Mario Lopez?
I demand to know we found Mario Lopez how big are you I must know 60 pounds I'm seeing five eight one seventy five okay pictures of him
standing on them sipping it's from some saved by the bell shoot like standing with his shirt off kind of like
Flexing with his arms crossed and yeah, I mean he was a kid, but now it's like yeah, you do just look like a kid though
right, right
Yeah
We ever you big saved by the bell guy
I
Saved by the Bell guy? Um, I actually didn't like it because my sister liked it,
so it meant it was between that's what stood between me
and watching what I actually wanted to watch.
So then I was sour tasted it.
You know, I had a sour taste when I was younger
than the age of someone that would actually
like Saved by the Bell.
Then by the time I was old enough to where I would like
Saved by the Bell, I was already disgruntled by saved by the bell.
So I never liked it that well.
Although I'm quite positive, I've probably seen every single episode.
I also don't think like the original show had that many episodes. Oh,
because I feel like I like I feel
feel like there was like far less than maybe I'm completely wrong on that.
How many episodes of Saved by the Bell?
That's what I want to know.
There was four seasons of it.
OK, four seasons, so 86, actually.
That's right. More than what I thought.
That's a decent run.
Yeah, no, that's a good run.
I so yeah, I wasn't a huge fan for those reasons
But I feel like I've actually seen most of them and I get all the references and stuff. How about you?
Didn't didn't like it to me. It was
Similar in the way that it stood between me wanting to watch shows that I actually wanted to watch
You know, it's like I'd rather be watching cartoons or something. That's not this so I saw some of them
but as a kid I didn't that show just didn't hit with me.
So I stayed away from it when I could.
I mean, it also premiered in 1989.
Well, I was like, when I was watching TV,
I thought those people were way older than me.
So that was also why I felt like I couldn't relate.
I'm like, oh, they're all in high school or whatever.
I'm in fourth grade.
Right, right.
That was part of my thing too. And that's what I'm saying by the time I was old enough
I'm I was already like no, I don't like this. I like boy meets world or whatever the you know
I did see for sure more boy meets world then yeah, I say by the bell
more of a Topanga guy than a Kelly Kapowski Kelly
Kapoor Kapowski see I can't remember they both sound now isn't Kelly Kapoor Kapowski. See, I can't even remember.
They both sound, no, isn't Kelly Kapoor
in that The Office?
Is that her name on The Office?
Yes, I'm getting very confused.
I'm like, what am I saying?
I know that's a thing.
Yeah, Kelly Kapoor, that is The Office.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah, that's good.
Yeah.
All right, that's our list, right? That's the list. Tell us who we missed.
Yeah, so yes, in the YouTube comment section, let us know what we got wrong.
What did we say that you disagree with?
Like, no, I still believe that person's big.
You cannot tell me that they are.
To be fair, a lot of these people actually are big.
It's just the image that is printed on screen is so much larger than life than what
they actually are then what they actually are yes some of a few we found
literally never were rapid Fight Club was not actually big yeah yeah but the
better comment would be who did we miss on the list like who are the glaringly
obvious ones that to you and your childhood you made larger than life and then either
you found out they were just portrayed that big or they weren't actually big
or what the outcome is there so let us know in the YouTube comment section for
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Also, I do gotta say since we've been saying those, all right.
I actually did see someone in full seriousness.
They don't listen to massonomics. They don't add no thing about it, but in full seriousness on their story,
just as like yesterday, it was something sassy
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Yeah
I'm working on this. I don't know what out of the lot just in the last week
I got to be in my bonnet on this little project this gym equipment project that I'm working on
Oh, and I've just gone in. This wasn't two weeks ago.
I wouldn't have had any interest in this.
And all of a sudden, I don't know what happened.
And I'm like, OK, yep, I'm doing this.
So I'm making a display of all different vintage 45-pound
plates.
I was going to ask you about this,
because you had posted another picture of another what?
Well, actually haven't talked about this yet. Have we yeah, no, so
What I'm what I've been doing just it within the last week is buying up a whole big variety of vintage
45 pound pairs are you gonna do kind of that just only?
Yeah, yes. Yes, which looks cool
Yeah And I just only yeah, yes. Yes, which looks cool Yeah, and I'll tell you how I'm planning on doing it and I'll say it out loud on this podcast
So people can also comment with their suggestions as to how they would do it differently
I'm pretty quite sure this is actually what I'm gonna do
But maybe someone will have a suggestion that I like better or like a slight slight alteration
But it is an effort thing but the only thing I'm interested in at this point is 45s.
Yep.
And I only want one pair of each and I don't want 35s.
I don't want 25s.
I don't want 10s.
I don't want fives.
Anything else.
I just want one each unique pair so that they're all different.
And so, so far I've purchased some people will this will some
of these will mean something to some people and some of none some of them
will mean nothing to some people but you'll recognize some of these so I
should hit this one's not finalized but I'm quite sure it is will be a one pair
of Schisler Eagle 45s the color
Okay, the gray so that's all I can get so the blues are still on my list
I I will put a set of blue on the on there and gray both
I consider those different and I just like those so those we each have a and the blue are is that because the blue are
Much rarer is that why they're rare and I just think they look cooler
I don't know I just like but I mean they're they are hard to come by though. Yeah, they're a little I guess a little harder
I just I haven't so far, but I've only I have been looking for those for a while actually, but okay
I want the blue Schisler Eagles. I also I have a pair of
American Olympian
45 pound plates those would be hard to find those aren't
super 45 pound plates those would be hard to find those aren't super Rare they're not super old. They're like eight 1980s deep dish
But I think they look the script on them the writing on them looks really cool
And then see I can't you Google it you won't even find yeah, you're not finding no googling those no
Bfco I've got a pair of those but those are
moderately
Collectible you know not super cheap and
not super expensive. Not super expensive, BFCO. You usually have a small BFCO on them.
Yep. Okay. I think I got the picture here for some of those. Yep. Yeah. I got a pair
of Marcy 45s, which those look really cool. If you Google google those I think you'll see them like Marcy
deep dish
45 there's got to be some pictures on there. Yeah
Yeah, and they'll say they'll say Los Angeles on the bottom of them like the top of the place plate says Marcy Co
There's like the X
Angeles I think those look really cool. I got a pair of those coming. Yep
Universal
45s those are not particularly rare or anything
I just always thought the the way that they say universal on them looks cool, and I don't know that's that's a weird word
I'm so very generic search term. Yeah
Yeah, that was like impossible to find on Google with
the yeah I'm typing the particulars of this don't really matter so anyways you
got some on the way all right yeah so I've already bought like four or five
different pairs actually and then I've got a few things around of course
already so what I'm gonna do at first I was thinking you know I've got those
couple York deep dish that I just mounted the the
horn directly to the stud on the wall.
I'm like, oh, with what I want to do, I don't really know if I want to be going and mounting
it's like a lot of these like a couple of studs.
Yeah, it's going to end up being a thousand pounds.
You know, I just a few studs.
Yeah, it seems like I was looking at what some other people had and talking to them and what I decided I'm gonna do is I'm gonna make
My own thing that'll sit right up next to all where I'm actually think I'm gonna put it is directly behind
There's four flags right now there. There's like the come and take it
Yeah in that corner back in the Gadsden flag back by the reverse hyper
Yep, and I'm gonna like take a couple of those flags off. I'm gonna build this
What I think I'm gonna use is 108 inch tall bells of steel
What's their three by three big they're big man a core?
What's their three by three big they're big man a core?
I'm gonna, but I think I'm gonna buy three
108 inch tall tall uprights their tallest one of the manta core and then by
17 inch cross members
So it'll be an upright two 17 inch cross members another upright two more 17 inch cross members and another upright Uh-huh the cross members just kind of hold it all together
Those would just go roughly at the top and roughly at the bottom. Yep
So then I've got these three uprights and then I would put weight horns in those so do they?
But what keeps them from tipping over so at the base then I buy those feet
Like rogue cells. Oh like the extension feet or whatever. Yeah the rogue extent the extension extender feats
I don't think bells has them so I'd buy those. Yeah, they got them right here
They come out and go down and kind of a 45 degree angle. Yeah. Yeah
Yep
So I could buy those or rogue rogue has ones that just are even shorter that just come out and go down at like
They're I like the ones that don't stick out like only like 10 inches or so, rather than like, I don't really want like the 26 inch ones.
I want the shorter ones.
And then the uprights and that little foot
both have holes you could mount into the concrete.
So then I would, once I get it in place,
I would mount it in the concrete.
And the uprights would be right up neck against the wall.
And it actually, I think it actually kind of adds
to the display because then you see this three by three
black rack thing that everything sits on.
And it kind of, that becomes part of the display
at a certain point.
Yeah, okay.
So this is actually kind of a project now.
Yeah, it's becoming more and more of a project the longer I
mess with it and think of what I'm going to do.
So that is roughly my plan.
And there's plenty of room there.
And most of the plates I'm going to put, I went with one hundred
and eight inch tall uprights because it gives me the reverse
hypers forty five inches tall.
So I'll be able to fit at least three rows of plates going up above the reverse above the reverse hyper line
Or the the GHR line basically yeah, so three rows up and three rows wide so I can at least fit nine
Up there and then really going down that you just couldn't see as well
I could do a couple more rows so I could really fit
15 yes, that's there so what a and see as well, I could do a couple more rows so I could really fit 15 sets there.
So would a pair of York deep dish ever make their way
out of that display?
Well, the tricky part is I actually like where both
the sets of York deep dishes are at now
because it looks cool.
Like they kind of bookend all the bars
on the wall over there.
So at some point in time,
I may need now one more pair of New York deep dish.
Yeah, and what I would say,
this makes more sense to someone
that's into collecting vintage weights.
Most of these ones I all named are not super high end.
These are all cheaper than York deep dish plates.
Yeah.
These are all plates that are for a pair
that are worth somewhere between 200 and 500 bucks
for a pair.
And I wanted to get all these ones because I think they're ones that look cool,
but still aren't that expensive.
So I can kind of fill this rack up the top of it right away.
And then I think in time, if I decide I want to buy some of the more expensive ones
that can move down the shelf, the cheaper ones would go down.
You know, it would be the top shelf, like at the bar.
It'd be like, you know, that's how you display it in my mind.
It's like the top shelf.
And so that's my theory at this point.
OK.
All right, well.
And I don't know how long it'll be till I do this,
but that's what I'm roughly planning on doing.
So then, well.
I just think it'll look really cool.
Oh, it'll look for sure.
If I'm going to buy these. And my thing is I want all different ones. Like I don't want yeah
Variety thing. Okay, so then are there ones
Okay, you said like the blue Schistler are there other ones that would be on the list that are still
Without being absolutely insane. Yeah, Dan lure Dan Lurie
If you look I wonder if there's a good picture of those.
I feel like I've seen those ones before.
And the ones with the tall letters.
Yeah.
And I'm, the Dan Lurie ones with the tall letters,
and I'm only getting two inch Olympic plates also.
But I really like the ones, the Dan Lurie two inch
with the tall letters, they look cool.
Any of the plates with the tall skinny letters look really cool because no one does that anymore
Yeah, it really makes you think that would be a cool look. So those are those are really those are
Reasonably priced too. So I will get a pair of those at some point in time
The schistler blue ones those are kind of the number one and number two that I'm looking for right now
I've checked a lot of the ones off the list
Isn't there what isn't there someone else that makes one with the tall letters on it?
There's York tall letters. Those are really all maybe that's like the wall of you know like Efron those are like
exceptionally expensive
the
What? exceptionally expensive the What
You know and then you get into like super expensive stuff like Jackson's and stuff like oh that's fine
I was dollars of it. They cost like five grand a pair, but I do want a pair of
Really there five grand a pair
So it's not more Lee. I like the Jackson 45s are three four four, $5,000 a pair. Oh my God.
The, what is the, oh, the Ivanko Chrome.
I want to get a pair of the Ivanko Chrome.
Those are really cool.
Those are four or 500 bucks a pair,
two, three, four, five, depending on condition and stuff.
So I can get round up a pair of those.
Actually, there was someone in Texas
that was selling a pair of those. I messaged him and said, hey, would hey, would you consider shipping these is like no, I don't really want to but where do you live?
I'm like, well South Dakota, so it's not I'm not gonna be driving there and he goes. Oh, are you Tanner for mass?
He said yes, I said yes sir
I am and he hasn't seen that sense but I'm like hopefully that helps mean he would be more likely
Yeah, push him hopefully his response is gonna be like oh
Price for you is double
For you I'll make an exception. Yeah, we'll just double this I
Guess the specific plates don't really matter at this point
But my that's my I'm more interested in the display of it at this point of like building this display
I'm gonna then I didn't specify but I'll have the weight horns, you know that come out obviously and that's what the plate plates would be mounted on
I think it all will work. You know, you asked about how it's gonna be secured and I feel like that
Being bolted into the ground and then I could also
Attach it to the wall up high if I was worried about it, too
You're probably fine though because you'll have three uprights you said yeah three uprights only 17 inches between them
Yeah, and then what the feet coming out and you know they have a feet underneath them, too
Yeah, that's right actually. I don't know anything about anything, but that seems like that's probably okay
I mean we have a big ass concrete slab floor. That's God knows how thick and
With it if they're
both if I their hammer drilled and bolted into the concrete like
it's not going to tip over. I mean, you know, it's like, oh,
yeah, especially if they're bolted in, then yeah, right,
right. That's I think I'll bolt them in just because the
thought of it tipping over. I mean, it would be I don't think
it would be likely but it would also be not ideal. Yeah, because
there is going to be heavy weights up high.
Uh huh. You know, so I do think it's got and I still wonder about possibly tethering the
top of those uprights to the studs in a couple spots to just. Yeah, to be safe. Just never
know someone climbs it someday. True. But I think it'll the display itself will be a
bit of a you know, the the framework of it will will be like what is this? You know? Yeah, it'll look
Yeah, because some people is like so confused seen uprights not part of a rack
Yeah, what is going on right here?
And then also other people that don't know anything about vintage weights are gonna be so confused as to what yeah with
Wall of plates. What is this about? I don't even, you know, I get that concept
because I've seen people do something similar,
but I can see how not that many years ago,
if I would have walked into a room like that,
I would have just been lost as to what was taking place.
To some people, I think they're like that
even if you don't know about vintage plates,
you'd be like, why are the plates all different?
You'd be like, I didn't know there were so many different
plates. Why do these look so old
It was why does they have so many different crappy old plates?
So that's my project that I'll be working on at some point in time
All right. Well that one that one could keep you a little busy for a while. I could see that I
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What else do we got this week anything?
Is there anything else on the list I think that's kind of I mean I think we pretty well made it made sense
Didn't yeah, I think so we made it all make it make sense and we did it. The math did math this time.
It all mathed out pretty well.
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