Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 460: Were They Actually Jacked or Were We Wrong?

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings of how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.
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Starting point is 00:00:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, all right, all right. We're back in the saddle for episode 460
Starting point is 00:00:38 of the Masanomics Podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing formerly the world's strongest podcast. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. I'm glad you cleared that up. I don't want anyone to be confused about what this podcast was formerly known as. When there, yeah, we used to be the world's strongest podcast. We, I always know we have back catalog warriors, uh, arming themselves for
Starting point is 00:01:01 battle, going through the first 45 hundred and fifty nine episodes prior to this one. And they might come through those first hundred and some and go, Oh, what is this? The world's strongest podcast. Well, the wrong show. Yeah, we used to be the world's strongest podcast now. And for quite a while, for several years, we're the lifting podcast about near Finn. Tommy, this week we've got an exciting episode a lot to get to but first of all
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Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah, I got the ursis gen two. That's right. I do have those Okay, first impressions. Let's get them. I like what I guess. What I them. Well, um, I guess uh, what I say is there's a what I think is there's a time and a place for the gen ones and the gen twos. I don't think the gen twos don't replace the gen ones in my eyes. I could see that they might. They certainly have a little bit more traditional style to them, at least in comparison to maybe
Starting point is 00:03:04 some other kind of minimalist shoes. But what I would say, whether you consider it a pro or con, I honestly don't know which one it is, I don't think it's either, it's just a difference, is they don't feel quite as minimalist. Right, which makes sense, because there's a visible soul now.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Right, right, so sometimes I still really prefer my gen ones because I, I have grown to really like that feel of like a truly minimalist shoe. And I really feel that with the Ursus gen one, the gen two doesn't feel quite as minimalist, but there's also times when I'm like, ah, maybe this style of a shoe is more representative for the activity that I'm wanting to participate in here. I could see that. If that makes sense. For people that don't know, the Ursus Gen 1
Starting point is 00:03:47 is the first barefoot shoe, which has, when you look at it, almost no visible sole at all. It's extremely thin. That's the one we've been rocking for the past several years. The Ursus Gen 2 just recently came out. Tanner, did you get your pair this week? You just got them, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, I think they came in sometime between the last time we recorded. So yeah, they just came in. I've worn them for a between the last time we recorded, so yeah, they just came in, I've worn them for a few days is all. Yeah, and that one, the biggest difference, the upper appears to be exactly the same, it really is just the sole is just minimally thicker. The material on the upper and everything feels,
Starting point is 00:04:15 you know, seems exactly the same, yeah. Okay, and the fit's the same, it really is just that little more presence of a sole? Yeah, more presence of a sole, unlike people with red hair, so. I was thinking, I didn't phrase that in an odd way. All right, well, if, we won't talk about it anymore, but you, if you want to get in on this action,
Starting point is 00:04:39 head on over to barefoot.store, use code massonomics, and you can save 10% on your next order. Thank you, Barefoot Shoes. Thanks, Barefoot. Oh boy, we got a lot this week. We got a title topic coming up. A real newsie. A real, real Zim Zam hoedown we got here this week
Starting point is 00:04:58 and we're gonna talk our title topic later. But first, we've got all kinds of non-title topic things to talk about, but a little housekeeping. all kinds of non-title topic things to talk about. But a little housekeeping, I would mention as we're recording our drop is tomorrow. So as it's come out, our drop has already dropped and they, we talked about a lot of this last week so we don't have to rehash every bit of it down to the gnats ass, but I would say again, uh, if we're talking gnats asses, I don't know what it has to do with this, but make sure to check out our MSS NMX license plate. I did a little research on this and I forgot
Starting point is 00:05:33 where I wrote down my research, so it's almost irrelevant that I wrote, did a little research. Actually, I do know where I wrote it down. I want to find it. I looked up what years this was, this exact license plate was. It was actually a lot for this being as memorable it is to me. You know the number of years that this was actually in production wasn't as long as you would think. Really? It was you can Wikipedia it you can you know they've got a really good description a layout of it but I wrote it down here. This was 1996 to 1999. Really? Only three years.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Well. Yeah, but I suppose then they stick around. You know, it wasn't like. Yeah, oh, the license plate game in South Dakota is super lax. So people were probably rocking those until 2010. Pretty easy. Well, I occasionally still see this sitting on old vehicles in the Leeds and places.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Did you know that that's like a thing for people to in states? Like I was not aware of this until some of the podcasts are that some of the car podcasts that I listened to and they talk about, oh, you want to get around emission stuff and like expensive registrant. You just, you just register your vehicle in South Dakota. I guess that's a thing people do now that aren't from here. I guess Montana is another popular one, but South Dakota and Montana are both like, oh, we'll just let you register anything. Well, that's the rule with South Dakota. You have to live here like one day a year
Starting point is 00:06:50 to be considered a resident. Who was talking about? Was that on the Let's Get Stupid podcast that maybe that was where they brought us or someone was brought it up to us. Yeah. Yeah, it's something like that. Do though that is yourself. I see that right here. Ninety six get yourself a mass-lomac. I see that right here, 96 to 2000. There is a slight, or that's what this one says. Yeah, the one prior to that, or prior or after one of the other looks very similar.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's pretty similar, yeah, so that'd be like 92. But this is the more iconic one. It is, it is. This is the one that I recognize. That's where they perfected it. But the prior one to this doesn't stick out in my memory, but this one sticks, like will live rent-free in my head forever.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And I don't know if that's just because, OK, that was just when we were getting to the age where you maybe start paying attention to that a little bit, maybe. Right, right. I don't know. It is an iconic one, though. Yeah. So get your own. It is authentic. Whatever this metallic material is, it's made out of, I guess. Is it aluminum? I believe it's stainless steel.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I think it's what it's it's I know it's a volcano neural pattern on the back. Yeah. Is it is this aircraft grade or? I think everything's aircraft grade that we do. We don't do anything. That's not everything's aircraft grade. If you try hard enough, that's right. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Say a lot for the people in the back, Tanner. And then we got all of our new stickers and we never did show off what the shirt is. Maybe we just leave that in limbo still, or do we show it off? You could maybe show it. I don't have one. Do you have one? Do you have any shirts nearby? Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Nope, no shirts in here. It's all just boxes designed. Should we show it off then? Maybe, maybe not a bad idea. It's just I told RTA that Tanner can still hear he's digging for the shirt right now, but Tanner told me when he got the shirt he goes this is just one of the best looking shirts
Starting point is 00:08:36 and I thought okay, yeah I think we say stuff like that about the new shirts and then I got mine in the mail and I thought this is just straight up one of the best looking shirts from the shirt Blank to the ink color to the ink the way the ink went down just everything on the shirt looks so good Also we should you showed off one of the new sticker packs the crispy boys of all the
Starting point is 00:09:01 all the cams showed that off last week, but we should show off the all the cams. You showed that off last week. But we should show off the other one that we didn't show that I'm also. The other sticker pack. It's going to be a glitter sticker pack. So the first sticker in the lineup is the raw power sticker. And these all have the holographic glitter look.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah. And their die cut as well, really up in the premiumness. Yeah. Next one is the Mastinix Lifting Department glitter sticker. Hopefully that's coming through. And the last one, the piece to resist all, is the chicken bake. Glitter sticker.
Starting point is 00:09:35 There's two grams of protein now and a die cut glitter sticker. It's just so excessive in every way, but looks great. My son was extremely excited about this. Really? He liked the chicken bake one? He put one on his computer, school computer immediately. That's I mean, that's as high of a praise you can get on a
Starting point is 00:09:51 spacing government property instantly. And then the shirt brought back out of the vault improved better than ever possibly our best shirt ever. We both at least until we come out with another new one For now it is our best ever. It's the massonomics raw power 2.0 edition now on the color for colorful creations Slightly boxier colorful claims. Wait a minute our. Comfort colors, I'm crossing my wires. That's actually a different topic I wanted to bring up. Comfort colors, CC, and what, it's like a gray color.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It might be called graphite maybe. It's just a, yeah, kind of a dark gray. And if you bought any of these blanks before, you know that they're a thicker boxier fit, which gives it a premium feel. And it's kind of hard to come across on camera But man just the way the colors are on there and the way that ink is laid down. It is nice Yeah, that's real nice and we haven't had the Rob Howard t-shirt now for Two plus years. I think maybe even three
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, and that was always one of my all time favorites. The only Rob Howard t-shirt I have right now is a large and that is pretty tight on your boy. So I need a new one badly. Yeah, I'm excited about that one, though. That is a sweet shirt. And then we still don't know the if the the. Third round of the certified training facility flags
Starting point is 00:11:25 and packets, we're not sure if that's gonna come out the same day or it might be a little later down the road. It depends on when things show up in our timeline. So that's actually in flux even as of today. So that'll either be in this drop or just a little bit down the road for your third chance at that. So that is the drop.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And then what are we going to hit back on horse stall mats again this week? Oh, man. It's the gift that keeps on giving. It doesn't end. And part of, part of me looks at the, the home gym Facebook group and says, Oh, we have, we've infected it with a virus. We have infected it with this horse stall meme thing. But then I also watched it and I think,
Starting point is 00:12:12 no, no, this has happened to itself. Like, it's a number of times it's still, I mean, it still is a daily organic occurrence. And it doesn't seem possible, but it is. And then Coop had a video reference. What was the, what was this YouTube video? It was 10 things you should, I don't know if it was, you should not buy or you should not spend money on in your home gym. Was it 10 things I hate about you?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Maybe that's what it was. Or is that a popular rom-com movie from our childhood? That's probably, that sounds more correct. Quick, who's in 10 things I hate about you? Heath Ledger I Don't know I've never seen it I Goldie Han or is that my even saying or is that a person? Goldie Han is
Starting point is 00:12:57 Pretty daughter Heath Ledger is in it Julia Styles Joseph Gordon Levitt You're right that he pled pledger I actually was like 50 50 that's out I'm like I'm not sure yeah I'm not seeing any Goldie Han or oh you're thinking of um what is her name she's that move Matthew Connick McConaughey yes I'm thinking of that movie that is also ten things I hate about you it's just the other it's just a different one they made that's the same movie. Kate Hudson, God, I cannot think of that name. What's that movie then?
Starting point is 00:13:31 True Detective. Actually, that just reminds me, I'm pretty sure it was the president of North Dakota sent me a DM one day, or I can day, or he sent me a meme or something, and it was talking about how before, one of the big Texas games, because you know, Matthew McConaughey's always on the sideline of the Texas games.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah, right. And I thought it said before one of them, he was giving a speech to the locker room, and the meme was something along the lines of like, this game has already been played thousands of times, like, you know, given the whole space like, space, flat circle conundrum. And I'm like, dude, there is no way that he did not, not, like, say those things.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like, he 100%, if he gave a speech, he said those things. Yes. This game has been played thousands. This game plays itself every day. We're just lucky enough to be the ones to play it this time. Yeah, so that movie is How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, all right, so yeah, you actually didn't have
Starting point is 00:14:30 your wires crossed that much, because 10 things right about you, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, yeah, very similar. Which one's better? I actually have not seen either one. I have seen parts of both of them, but I've never seen either one. I've definitely seen How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days,
Starting point is 00:14:45 and that might not be that bad of a movie. Like as far as having to watch those movies, and at least for the period, that's gotta be the better one. I can't think of the other one. See, I thought 10 Things I Hate About You was regarded pretty highly, I thought. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But let's go IMDB score. Which one, Chad? 7.3. 7.3 on 10 Things I Hate About You. Is that a pretty good IMDB score? I don't know. How to to lose a guy in 10 days, 6.5. So people may have spoken about you. It's better, yeah. I guess people like Heath Ledger.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah, he got that being dead bump afterwards too. The Joker, he's got that Joker thing going for him. Okay, enough about shitty romcom movies that we haven't seen We don't know the names of or the people that are in them but coupe had a video about Yeah, okay, so yeah back to the horse something where it just feels like it's a it's a joke that the whole world is in I know is that Coop's latest video ten things you should? Some things I hate about your gym or whatever it was the first one
Starting point is 00:15:51 He starts out how to lose a home gym in ten days his horse stall mats his first thing the first topic is gym flooring and he talks about horse stall mats for multiple minutes of this video and It just feels like you're beating a dead horse at this point, but Just went on and on about him. I like how he even said like it's a running kind of a running joke in the home gym You just put horse on your horse all that's it's yeah, but it's a it's the thing that it just never goes away. I Went to a well, what do you first of all you got something to drink over there? What are you just playing a water I was digging through the fridge. I couldn't find any spark. What are you a peasant?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Kind of feel like one right now. It's like we're it's like I'm hanging with the pores. That's right. Oh, sit, and you come in here with one of those high horse on the La Croix pomfremousse. Just class over there. Wow. If there was ever a classic, you know, that's it might not be the best one ever. But I think it's it's might not be the best sparkling water ever. But I think it's the one that all others are measured against.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It is, it is the measuring stick. Is it, turn the can, there's a measuring stick printed right on the side of it. Yeah, it says this is about right at three and a half JD Power and Associates Awards right here. The original three and a half rating. You look up three and a half JD Power and Associates Awards in the Encyclopedia Britannica,
Starting point is 00:17:22 they've got a picture of a La Croix Pompel Mousse right there. When you were growing up at your house, did you guys have a set of encyclopedias? No, we didn't. I had some friends that lived on the street that did though. And every once in a while, you know, once you start digging through there,
Starting point is 00:17:39 it'd get pretty addicting of, oh, this is cool. This is cool. This is like, you just keep going on and on and on. Now we have Wikipedia for that, but. Right. We weren't privileged enough for the encyclopedia set. Now we have chat GPT. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's all there. We had a set of, I think they were like, ours were even probably old. Like they were at least a decade or two older than, you know, but like you'd go look at countries and then the United States didn't have 50 states in it. You're like, oh, it used to be a proper country. What like Istanbul, Escantinople, like where it's like different.
Starting point is 00:18:18 The other one I was growing up was always in schools, at least for us, the whole Russia, USSR thing was never quite sorted out depending on what route you were looking at and what room. Well, we were just young enough that like, maybe it was in the 90s on like some of the maps that are probably 20 years old. Yeah, the map budget wasn't getting updated.
Starting point is 00:18:37 The maps weren't getting updated every few years. So some of those borders and labels were not quite correct. Wasn't a priority in South Dakota public schools to get new maps all that often But what was I actually talking about what was I talking about The encyclopedia wikipedia it doesn't really matter what I was talking about, but I did go to a, are you familiar at all with the Aberdeen Wings? I've heard of them. I feel like I'm familiar with their venue for some reason.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I can't quite put my finger on it. That's true. Like, do you think we've, in 460 episodes, have we ever mentioned the Aberdeen Wings? Like, we had to have, right? That's actually a really good question. You would think we have, but nothing is coming to mind
Starting point is 00:19:26 immediately ever discussing them. Big Anthony says once we have. I don't know how he knows. There it is. Yes, one time and one time only. I think the last time I went to one of those games was probably about 2012-ish. How were they around that long?
Starting point is 00:19:44 When did they start? Yeah, they were. It was a pretty new. It was one of the first few seasons. And I can't believe they've been around that long. I feel like they're relatively new still, but it's like, oh, no, they've been here for like 15 years. Yeah. I think when I just moved to town is when they were just starting. So that was like 2010 or 11.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, OK. It was right there. But at those times, I had fun the few times I went. You know, it helped that I was part of a big group group so we had like the the kind of the party area with Where the beer was flowing and people were there to right have a good time I? Go to a game. Maybe about once a year I'll go like when I get free tickets for work and like we have a suite so then there's there's free food and you know Yeah, you know there again. I don't have to sit with the peasants. Just really live it over.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah. And first of all, I did notice it's a little chillier in there than it was the summer when we were there. Something about- Doesn't take a whole lot to be chillier than when we're there. And side tangent, but some weather we had been having this last week, like when I went to that hockey game,
Starting point is 00:20:44 when we left that night, I'm like, it is so cold out. It was like negative 15 actual temperature when we left the hockey game. It feels like, it was the same thing here. It feels like the one day was like negative 32 or something. And we can talk more about this later, but yeah, it was, my electric heater in the gym doesn't hold up the best when it's negative 32 outside.
Starting point is 00:21:08 What was it like when it was like that? So I guess we're gonna talk about that more again. I will talk about it when we get to the juggernaut ad. That's usually training time. All right, I do wanna hear about that. Actually, I've been meaning to just even ask you that like even outside the podcast because it's been so freaking cold.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But I went to the hockey game and what stuck out as hilarious to me, this isn't the hilarious part, but I also noticed there's just a lot of people that go to those, like that place is full. Like, geez, is it like this every week? I think it usually is, isn't it? I think it is kind of all the time.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But the thing that stuck out to me the most at hockey, they're playing music almost all the time because there's so many stoppages of play and every time they do, they play some music. And I'm like, oh my God, I need to sit here with a pen and paper because every track that they play is absolutely a song I could be using for a strong man, World's Strongest Man montage.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Oh really? It's just like perfect one after perfect one. I kept being like, oh my God, these are all excellent choices. The right mix of nostalgia and songs that everyone knows. Yes, but then they do it, you know, they probably played like 30 of them because every one they only play for 10 seconds. Like, that's why they're getting the puck ready
Starting point is 00:22:22 or getting everyone hyped up in between. I'm like, man, and then I wondered wondered do they do these same 30 every single week probably sit here Yeah, the same order like you hear every every part like the playlist they just start it from the top. It's like oh, yeah There's that ten seconds of the Beastie Boys song. Yeah, there's ten seconds of that Metallica song, you know, and your sandman All right. Now, intro to Sabotage, ah, I can't. Yeah, you just. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Run through it all. Yeah. I'm just wondering, is it this, I wonder if you went week to week if it would be the same order of them even, where it just, they do the exact same ones. Probably, actually, that would not surprise me. If there's a variability of like four songs is all,
Starting point is 00:23:04 you know, it's the same 50, and they just sub out a couple depending on what's going on. But I did. And I didn't really think about it until it was too late. But I'm like, I should have sat here and been writing these down because these are all the cheat sheet. Just like the perfect ones I need. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, man, you, you cracked the code. You like laid out the formula right here for me. It was right in front of me the whole time. So great hockey tunes like every bit of every one of the cliche songs like that, that they could play the hit like everyone in those couple hours. So that's my hockey update. That's our sports segment. Okay. How about I make this a true sports and book segment?
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh, wait. So that was the tell me we got books to go with this sports segment. Yeah, I read a book. So I just thought about that as I called it the sports and book segment. A couple of weeks ago, I read a book. My wife got me a book for Christmas. It was about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald. Oh, I did. OK, I did see you had a little snap or whatever about that. Yeah, it wasn't a very long, you know, it's like maybe 150 pages.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But it was a really it was really interesting. It was a good read. So can't remember the name of it. Is this more of a just historical rundown of everything that happened? Yeah, it was more of a very just historical rundown. Like it wasn't like a story. It was like, hey, here's what happened. Here's what actually in some cases, here's what happened, here's what, actually in some cases, here's what different groups
Starting point is 00:24:28 believe happened because it's not known exactly what happened. But it's like, here's the route they were taking, here's the time that they left and what they ran into and like other historic shipwrecks like along their path. All right, so it was good though? It was actually really good. Admittedly have become fairly interested along their path and. All right, so it was good though? It was actually really good.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Was there any facts? Admittedly have become fairly interested in the SS Edmund Fitzgerald. So here's an interesting fact. The SS Edmund Fitzgerald was made by Northwestern Mutual. They're the ones that owned the SS Edmund Fitzgerald. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Like Northwestern Mutual as we know it today or was this a different company? Well, I mean, at the time it probably was slightly different, but I think somewhat as we know it today, yeah. Well, I guess, okay, we're also talking about, when was it, the 80s? The 70s is when it, but it would have been built in, I think it was built in the 50s.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Oh, okay, okay, yeah. And Edmund Fitzgerald was an executive at Northwestern Mutual. Oh really? That was very common to name the ships after executives of the companies and that sort of thing. That's how you know you made it. You got a boat named after you.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah, it was good. I don't need to rehash the story of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald, as I've already done on this podcast before. But it was just really interesting. I thought it was a good book. I would recommend, if you're interested in the SS Edmund Fitzgerald, you could ask me what book it is, and I'll actually reference the real title,
Starting point is 00:26:01 rather than just saying the name of the ship over and over again. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Definitely controversy over how exactly it sank though. So what a different organizations want to attribute it to different things where You know there it's split in half but there's definitely a lot of controversy of whether it's split in half and then sank or If it's sank all and then split in half and then sank, or if it sank and then split in half. Yeah, like if it sank because it split in half, sort of, or, and I don't remember the reasoning exactly why,
Starting point is 00:26:35 but there's particular organizations that want to say that it did not, it's in their interest to say that it did not split in half first, and I can't really remember why that that was the story they were thinking. How long did it take them to actually find it after it sunk? A long time to like really pinpoint actually years. A long time. Well, like they knew generally where it was, but it was like maybe almost a year until they actually got out, like to the site.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And like, yep, here it is for sure. Uh huh. And then there was maybe three or four submarine dives that went down to check it out. Interesting. So are pieces of it still down there? Or have they taken it all out? I think it's all down there. Oh, it is?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Okay, I didn't know. Yeah, I think it's all there. Pieces are. You'd have to read the book to really know where they are. Yeah, you'd have to be there to really get it. Yeah, that's true. Superior, they said, never gives up her dead. So, yeah, they're still there. No, she don't. What do you got something about?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, that was my hockey tunes thing. Then you had a couple interesting topics in here. That one, you know, I was curious about I wrote down a little something here called mechanic and you listen to show. I was curious about. I wrote down a little something here called mechanic. And if you listen to the show. Are we talking about Dan Mackey? Not this time. If you listen to the show while, you know, I have an old saying and it's wrench every day, baby, and I'm just always wrenching away on things.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And that's what we've always said. That's just what I've always done. It's just Tommy's out there wrenching away. It's been in your blood. I don't even know what he's wrenching on. He's just always I've always done. It's just Tommy's out there wrenching away. I don't know. It's been in your blood. I don't even know what he's wrenching on. He's just always working on something. Well, I've been-
Starting point is 00:28:09 Turning wrenches. I've been really working on the old Malibu lately. Really? Keeping it road worthy on here on my own. Did you put on some of those light up valve stem covers? Not yet. Matt might be on the list, but we'll see what we can get to. Those would really spice it up.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So I actually had, I think I told you this when I was gonna drive to Aberdeen, I hopped in the Malibu, this was what, two weeks ago, and my check engine light came on. And talking about a Malibu here, the check engine light does not come on. I have 110,000 miles on it, like that it just runs. You know, nothing slows it down So that was what they say about a Malibu runs like a deer
Starting point is 00:28:52 Nothing runs like a deer. That's what they always say about them and So I was a little concerned and I would actually wouldn't I actually wouldn't be concerned at all But I thought before I go on like a 400 plus round mile or round trip, 400 mile plus round trip in the winter in January, like maybe I should see if something's going on here. So I thought I'll just, maybe it needs to warm up, get some gas in it, you know? So I took it down to the gas station, drove a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:17 The light was still on and I thought, nah, I'm gonna be responsible and not risk this. So I took my wife's Tahoe and through that time, been driving the car and it seems to drive fine, but there is a check engine light on which is annoying and So that I will see we'll see what we got going on here So the first thing I did is I went on Amazon and bought one of the cheap like thirty dollar computers, you know for your car so that shows up and I hook it up to it and it gives me a code and for your car so that shows up and I hook it up to it and it gives me a code and
Starting point is 00:29:51 Look up the code online and people are saying the first thing I see because of course there's forums You know for any car right you make model of course the male of the Malibu forms are hot like that's where that's where Actions going down. There's a lot of action in there and so I go into the Malibu forums and Immediately the thing that I'm finding are people like oh This is the easiest fix you can ever do fix it in five minutes in the parking lot at AutoZone Another guys is you just take the check engine light bulb You just open the just turn the computer on and you hit clear the code and you're done So I'm like well, these are people that know what they're talking about I'm not gonna mess with this and then I thought about a little more. I'm like, I'll bet I better check YouTube
Starting point is 00:30:25 I'll be the judge of how easy this is and I check YouTube and this part It was like I can't remember actually what it was called now is some fuel valve something And this part is directly on top in the back of the engine I mean it almost couldn't be any easier to get to and I'm watching the video of the guy do it and like yeah That actually was five minutes There's only one bolt you have to remove after that. It's just clips It's three clips to to pop this piece off. Yeah, so then I check Autozone There's four Autozones in town only one of them had the part I drive to Autozone
Starting point is 00:30:58 I get the part go home pop the things off boom boom boom put it on It's like a brand new car, baby. It's just, it's all good. Did the check engine light go off? Well, I think it doesn't turn off on its own. I had to clear it, but it does run. Oh, right. Because it did.
Starting point is 00:31:13 It hasn't come back on, but then the test is done. Yeah, and it hasn't came back on. And what everyone said is your car will idle a little rough when that part isn't working correctly. And my car was, it was idling a little rough. And so after I did that that it's all good. So Yeah, pretty much a car mechanic over here the other thing is my hood the strut to open my hood in the last like month or two has
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm sure after being what 15 years old like the gas pressure whatever in it has gone away So that I ordered a strut to replace that so my hood can actually stay open. Oh Got that and of course, I ordered the one for the trunk deck, not for the hood. Rookie mistake. So, yep, got the piece. I'm like, God, this just seems way too small. But I ordered the right thing. I know I did.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And I went out there and sized it up. And yep, it was definitely for the trunk and not for the hood. So that one is next on the list. Well, we basically are clicking clack at this point, aren't we? Yeah. Well, and I replaced the battery in it about a month ago, too. So it's basically a new car at this point.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Was the old battery, well, I mean, did it need a new one? Like, was it cranking hard, slow? No, but I always keep it in the garage, you know? So it's never really in temps under 40. And the battery, the last I could, I know I replaced it, it was when I lived in my old, old house, and I still had roommates. And that was at least seven years ago Well, that's pretty good run. Maybe eight or nine even yeah, so
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's what my dad's like. Oh, I think once you get five I consider that like our old time You got to replace that. Yeah, you're definitely on borrowed time. So that's why did you get what what brand of battery? Oh my god, don't even get me started here. I go to O'Reilly's because it's the closest thing to my house. Oh, O'Reilly. They charge way too much for a car battery. Yeah. Like $150 or something like that or more. 180 more. It wasn't $200. It was like 192. Okay. And then,
Starting point is 00:33:06 and then I look and oh oh you can get the exact same Battery, you know an interstate battery from Costco for like 110. I'm like, yeah Last time I go to O'Reilly's buy like they're so expensive there But to be fair the last one I got was from O'Reilly's and lasted like eight years. So maybe they'll do it. That's true You got a 10-year battery out of them. Yeah So that's uh, it's true. You got a 10 year battery out of them. Yeah. So that's my car mechanic talk. Car talk on the Masanomics podcast. We haven't had much good car talk for a while. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Just not enough exciting things happen in the car world. No. I actually thought about, I think I'm actually, I was thinking about this a week or two ago, and now I think I'm actually, I was thinking about this a week or two ago and now I think I'm gonna sit on the sidelines again. I was like, you know what, I've never done real in-person shopping for a car.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I've always just, actually not that I've done that, I've only bought a couple cars my entire life. So I'm like, this time, I live in a town with all the dealerships, I'm just gonna take my time, go to a dealership a weekend, test all these cars out. And then I thought about it a little more, I'm like, I don't time, go to a dealership a weekend, try, test all these cars out. And then I thought about it a little more. I'm like, I don't have the time to do that. Also, it's like brand new now. That was actually what changed my mind.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I'm like, well, I fixed my car. The check engine lights got, I got like a new car. I don't even got anything to worry about anymore. You have no use for that now at this point. Yep. There's no point in me even bothering. Um, You have no use for that now at this point. Yep, there's no point in me even bothering. This week's episode, actually should I do supporting members?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah, maybe. I didn't really prepare any supporting or supporting members this week. Let me see if anyone said anything in this channel that no one uses. Oh, it's very, very targeted talking there, so I'm sure you'll find something no problem. I believe a little follow up to Grayson's track achievements.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Big Hannah made it sound like maybe she had some track achievements as well. She might just be making that up in order to get herself on supporting our supporting members. So I have to debate. I need to verify that first. Not anyone can just randomly say they did something. Like I have to see the official track and field record book first before you get
Starting point is 00:35:11 before you actually make it into supporting our supporting members. That's right. Yeah. Big Keith here, he said, like he said, Big Megan Johnson was on this week's episode of unpaid and underrated Mastinomics gym member. Go check that out and give that a listen. Western, Northeast, South Dakota native tattoo artist. And they told the so this the supporting our supporting member
Starting point is 00:35:36 segment will be the joke that they told on. I don't know if I've ever have I told you the Megan joke. Before Megan is Megan's visually impaired. Yeah, she left. I told you the Megan joke before. Megan's visually impaired. She laughs at this joke also, so it's safe, fair to tell on here. But one of the guys at the gym that likes to razz some of the other guys about not showing up.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know, that's a common thing that comes up. So I think I've told you this joke. So for all the listeners that haven't heard it on Unpaid and Underrated where where they talked about it. But, you know, we've got, you know, Massimax Gym at times is a little bit of an old boys club where people are like giving each other a little hell from time to time.
Starting point is 00:36:15 At times. Giving people some shit about stuff. And classic thing is someone hasn't been into the gym for a while, you know, you kind of make fun of them for that. oh What do you you found your way? Like less than a week even it's just Someone and it could just be because you're going at different times Like the classic thing is to make someone make fun of someone for not showing up But it's just because they go at a slightly different time than you the time where you weren't there. Yes, that's yeah
Starting point is 00:36:42 so it's like they can't be there but different time than you. It was the time where you weren't there. Yes, that's it. Yeah, so it's like they can't be there, but the joke, like to a pick on someone, you say, well, the visually impaired girl or the blind girl finds her way to the gym every day, but you can't make it to the gym.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And I always get a kick out of that. I thought it wasn't original to me, but I do get it. That was a big J original, I think. It does seem like a big J original, I think. But it does seem like it does seem like a big J one. And I can see him using that every single time. Yes. Yes. So go give unpaid and underrated a listen
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Starting point is 00:37:40 But please consider becoming a supporting member. If you listen every week or a lot of weeks and you enjoy it we would love to have you become one it's probably the thing that helps us out the most so you can do that by heading over to massnomics.com slash join and this week's episode is also brought to you by our fine friends over at juggernaut AI juggernaut AI is the training that we use, that many use. Who is, oh, there's another guy, Big Matt at the gym. Or one of the Big Matt's at the gym just said
Starting point is 00:38:11 he just joined, he just today came in and said, oh, finally, I finally hopped on the Juggernaut AI train. So there's always, I'm always hearing more people trying it out. Tommy's using it now. Tommy, how's it going on Chuck or Not AI? It's going really good actually. It was, I'm so sore this week and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:30 I don't wanna be in this sore off of a, cause I just wrapped up, two weeks ago was RP 10, this past week was a D-load, back at it this week. And normally I don't really get that sore coming back, but then when I thought about it, when I think of squatting, two weeks ago at the gym, worked up to a heavy set of four and I only did one I cut one of my back down sets off So I only did that day actually eight working reps, you know, and then last week on my D load was pretty light
Starting point is 00:38:55 You know It was only maybe I think was like two sets of four two sets of five something like that and then this block for juggernaut It has bumped up my volume and so I did five sets of five yesterday and That volume kind of kicked my ass out of nowhere. So I'm feeling that a little bit today Yeah, so that And this is it will this be a four week strength block that you just started fun fine four week strength block here This actually might be my last one. I might start Yeah, I'm gonna go to go into a peak,
Starting point is 00:39:25 a deload and then a peak. I believe I do, which is gonna be. For a testing. Which is going to be interesting with the travels we have ahead of us. Oh no, I actually have two. Two strength blocks. Yep, I have two strength blocks left
Starting point is 00:39:37 and then a four week peak. So yeah, my peak isn't until. So you've got a little while. Yeah, oh yeah, April 12th. I got a lot of time, lot of time. Yeah, well, that's perfect. We'll only be on at least three long Mastodonics trips between now and then.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I know, right? Nothing to work around at all. It'll be super easy. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yes. Actually, and that is true, we will be on three cross-country trips just now and and then a couple of them, you know about a couple. Third one's a bit of a surprise at this point. We won't let the cat out of the bag yet. But yeah, we're hitting up
Starting point is 00:40:14 most corners of the US here within the first three months of the year. There is a gonna be a lot going on. It's like, oh oh going on was really busy, you know Kind of running two businesses and trying to do this workout program and having kids and a wife and now like that's also like travel every other week almost It's I got nothing but time. Let's let's do it We can we'll sleep when we're dead. Oh Man, yeah, you can always sleep when you're dead. I've heard Yeah, and I always say if I can't get it up for just one set might as well start throwing the dirt on me now
Starting point is 00:40:54 Just start scooping the dirt on my old body now if I can't get it up for at least one more set so Which leads me back to this when you go to juggernautai.app, sign in through the web browser, get signed up and use discount code, Mastinomics, it'll save you 10% for the lifetime of your membership. It ends up being about 30 bucks a month.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So, try it out and hit some PRs like Tommy does. I will say, so now to follow up on that training piece, the temperature in the garage, you know, normally, Yes. So, because it has been so damn cold lately, I usually, this is how it goes for me. I eat lunch, take the dog for a walk, come back in, and depending on what time, it's usually somewhere between one and 1.30 when I get back from my walk.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And so then I'll usually turn the garage heater on with the idea that, okay, I'm gonna be out there 3 3 30 or something like that. So it'll run for like two hours and On a day like today, you know when the weather is more tolerable. I don't know What was it like 30 today? Maybe 25. I think it was 25 something like that Today was not bad. Yeah when I went out this damn near ball me it actually felt like it I was so bummed I went out there like oh, this is nice weather Right when I went out into my garage it was and I don't leave the heater running all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I only turn it on when I'm out there. When I went out in my garage, it was like 45 out there, 46. I turned the heater on, it ran for like two hours. And when I went out to go lift, it was like 62 out there. And so you're out there for that. Any warmer than that, you actually get warm. If you're going out with any type of sweatpants or anything on you know very quickly start losing layers But when it was super cold the other day
Starting point is 00:42:30 Yeah, I was like the garage what was right around 29 30 somewhere around there And it that's like the first time you went out actually yeah when I went out in the garage like that was the first time So I started paying attention that I've ever seen a blow freezing in there, and it was also Super windy too. So it wasn't even, you know, the wind was just like- It's not the cold that gets you, it's the wind. It's that damn wind. The cold's not bad at all, it's just the wind.
Starting point is 00:42:53 It's not the negative 15 that gets you, it's the wind. So that day I turned the heater on at like 1130 or noon, just thinking, okay, it's probably gonna struggle to keep up with this. And by the time I went out to lift, it had been like four hours, I let it run. And by the time I went out to lift, it was showing like 48 ish. And it just felt it had come up. Yeah, it had come up.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And for me, once it's over 50, I don't. I, you're, you're good. I don't even care at all, but it was something I think was some, and my garage is insulated well, but I think it's just the way that wind is whipping through that the, it's just the heat does not want to stay in there. And by the time my workout was done, I think I got up to like 53, 54, something like that.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But man, when I, you know, I had a top set on squats of like four, was it 415 or 425? Something like, it was 405, 405 was my top set. And even getting warmed up, I'm like, I feel like everything just hurts. I can't get warmed up. And putting my knee sleeves on was a pain in the ass. Everything was way too cold.
Starting point is 00:43:56 It was tough, but after my top set, my squats actually felt really good after that. So did you, have you tried wearing those fingerless gloves to help keep your hands warm? That's actually not really the problem for me. I've noticed at least on squat, um, the bar temperature, actually none of them, the bar temperature is never a problem. Like once you, once you grip the bar a few times, your it seems like your body puts enough heat into it that you don't even really
Starting point is 00:44:22 have to worry about it. But, um, but I did in case everyone's wondering I did make Sure to file off all that pokey stuff on the bars so that if I do wear my glove That's what I was gonna say if you fell you get a Get some like a metal file and shave down that that pokey stuff so it doesn't bother your Proactive here, I'm not I'm not you know being Reckless about this whole thing Okay, so but it's so it's only gonna be a problem with the extreme cold Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:50 So so far the few days a year when it's like the feels like outside is like negative 25 Then it's a bit of a problem Yeah, I guess if we're gonna say the long-term follow-up of now having this electric What did I say it was like a 400 watt electric heater or something like that for? Yeah, it's more for her. Well. I don't know. You're a mechanic not an electric How many things in one guy know maybe it's maybe was a 4.8 kilowatt hour Maybe that's what it was a 4.8 kilowatt hour. I don't even remember anymore electric heater
Starting point is 00:45:18 It went in in November. I would say November through December. It served me perfectly. Well every time I go out I would say November through December. It served me perfectly. Well every time I go out The garage is above 50, which is totally acceptable totally good in December year over year. My electric bill was up like $20 So for that also Totally good. I could live with a $20 increase for the comfort that it brings like that was totally worth it Yeah, the downfalls would be the extreme cold. It can fight a little bit to keep up. And this, you know, we're talking to a well insulated garage, no windows or anything to worry about draftiness there.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But it was, that would be, that's where it suffers is the very coldest days. But as of recording right now, it is January 22nd. I mean, we can have some cold days ahead, but the days of like negative 30, there's just not that many of them left out there, especially when the 10 day forecast is showing like 30s and 40s.
Starting point is 00:46:11 If we were like a couple states farther south, a heater like that would probably never not keep up. Yeah, I think you'd be set year round easy with just an electric heater. Yeah. Heater follow-up. I knew we'd get to it eventually. Speaking of getting things to eventually,
Starting point is 00:46:31 should we do a little title topic action? Yes. Do we want the listeners on for this one? Or? Oh, I am, honestly, I am so sick of these live listeners. I wasn't gonna say it. I was thinking it, but I wasn't gonna say it. I can just see them looking over our,
Starting point is 00:46:47 I can feel them breathing down our necks. I would love to just give them the boot. Okay. I think we gotta give them something to look forward to for when this recording comes out. Oh. Yeah, they didn't get to hear the no mommy this week. No, no mommy this week
Starting point is 00:47:13 Is what all the live listeners are thinking right now That's what they feel like when you're kicking them out of the life I'm the mommy now All right, so this is the title topic though should I hit him with hit him with it And we're gonna hit you like that this week alright Some people don't know this, but Tanner and I, we got a little idea log that we keep ideas in for just unknowing amounts of time. And this week seemed like
Starting point is 00:47:54 a good idea to bring an idea out of the vault that has never been out. We went and grabbed it. Tanner, what was the date? Let's see. Yeah, how old was this original idea for this original idea was created February 7th, 2019. So in like two weeks, this idea is officially six years old. And we said, this is the week that we're finally going to make this more of the story.
Starting point is 00:48:20 If you got an idea for anything, write it down. You never know in six years when you might want to take advantage of that So I'm gonna ask what was the oldest idea we had in there. Well, that one's pretty old We wrote that down like, you know what we're definitely going to record an episode every week for the next six weeks So we have 300 and some weeks to get to this. Why do we need to rush it when we wrote that down? I was like barely into my 30s We wrote that down, I was like barely into my 30s. But I wrote that down, I wasn't 30 yet. Yeah. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Wow. 2019, the world was just so different then. Oh man, nothing had even gone on yet in 2019. Everyone was just staying safe and being good. I'm gonna stay in this way. All right. So the idea. All right. We're ready for today's title topic. Yeah. What is today's title topic is people you thought were jacked when you were younger. And are they really, were they really,
Starting point is 00:49:26 maybe they weren't. And what was so funny about this idea is I had these people, these guys in my head, these figures, and I went back and looked and oh, yep, we already had them all written down even. We'd already done the work, it was all there. So what we're gonna do, we're gonna run through, we have a few people that you thought they were jacked
Starting point is 00:49:46 when you were younger, and maybe looking back, maybe this is part of Instagram ruining our brains, being, paying attention to the fitness industry as the years have gone on. Maybe our perception of what's jacked has changed. For sure. The field goal has moved as this time has gone on. And so we're gonna dig into this and see,
Starting point is 00:50:04 were these people really jacked, or do we just not know any better than right so we'll just run down the list one by one and see what we yeah yeah we got a list and then maybe at the end we'll hit them with a few people that actually when we went back and did our research these people actually are pretty jacked we'll give them a few bonus people at the end here, right? So do you want to pick one first? Yeah, I'm gonna go with this what this first one right here. I remember it's all these all these involve some you know memory from Some point in your childhood or adolescence or something. I remember thinking Brad Pitt and Fight Club was just
Starting point is 00:50:42 Jacked out of his mind. No, it was probably when I watched this movie, probably like a sophomore in high school. Yeah, about that. So what's that, 14, 15? If you Google Brad Pitt Fight Club, there's the picture of him when they're in the Fight Club, he's got his shirt off. And he's looking back now,
Starting point is 00:51:02 and he's got the cigarette in his mouth. Looking back now, it's like you're in his mouth looking back now. It's like You're in good shape, but you're just really lean and you kind of have biceps like You know he has visible abs, but no pecs or anything. He's just really really lean is what he is Well, did you see I looked up Brad Pitt height and weight for Fight Club? Yeah, okay, is that what that actually was yeah, no I looked up if up in Fight Club, what was this? And you know, this is the internet, so everything's a little subject to being correct or not. 5'11", which is a good, good solid height, 155 pounds.
Starting point is 00:51:37 That is so skinny. That was me, that actually was me like my sophomore year of high school. I was about 5'11", 155 then. So I can relate. That is skinny, Terry. That is very skinny at that height especially. But yeah, looking back, this is one
Starting point is 00:51:53 that I always thought I remember that scene being like, oh man, that guy is really jacked. He's really ripped. And then you look back, and like, no, no, you're just a really lean, don't use the term wiry. You're just kind of a wiry guy at that point when when you play it when you listen along with this You'll probably just have to like look up images of people to as it goes. We can only paint so many word pictures of men's physiques We're gonna do our best to paint who are gonna use our brushes to paint some pretty descriptive
Starting point is 00:52:22 This is going to be body. It's a very is to paint some pretty descriptive bodies for the male body canvas and brush work going on here. Okay, and all these ones are different, varying levels of like, I guess after each one we should recap like, okay, so he definitely wasn't big. Yeah, Brad Pitt, he definitely wasn't big. He was lean and in really good shape,
Starting point is 00:52:43 but he wasn't big at all. Right, at all. Like, not even at all. Like, barely even, like, not necessarily muscular. If he had clothes on, which he did wear clothes in that movie, but if you walked by him with clothes on, you would just think he's a regular-ass dude. You know, you would be like, he's a pretty skinny regular dude. Actually, yeah. When he's got his little leather jacket on with the collar and everything, yeah, he's a pretty skinny regular dude. When he's got his little leather jacket on with the collar and everything, yeah, he just looks like a regular dude.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Okay, I think this would be a very commonly thought of as, I mean, I think this one has been busted probably well over in a lot of people's minds since then, but classically Vin Diesel. And his is part of his attitude, I think, is like comes off as a, he's a tough guy actor. Maybe doesn't say a lot, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:30 kind of the strong silent type as far as that goes. Right, and you don't have to necessarily be big and strong to be a tough guy, but he kinda had this image as being a big, big strong guy I think too, right? That's what I, when I was younger, the first Fast and the Furious movie, I watched that thing like a thousand times. That was, I don't know, probably Vin Diesel's first
Starting point is 00:53:51 big role or his breakout role. And I remember thinking like, yep, he's the big, he's the big boss guy, he is tough and scary. And my reference is, look up the cover for Triple X, the movie. Oh, and that felt like that was the that was like a cool trying to make him huge Like his they show his back and his arm and I'm like he looks like he has like a poster here Yeah, they're like yeah poster. It looks like he's Jay Cutler. Uh-huh
Starting point is 00:54:17 He's gonna like he looks like a tricep like tricep like yeah, it is dealt I mean, it looks like a guy that would rep out for 95 on the bench press He does he does and then when you go to stills from the movie Doesn't really look like that as much No, but so here's what I got for stat on Vin Diesel six foot two twenty five, so he's not tiny That's actually bigger than I would have ever asked. Yeah, so he's uh, you know, that's not That's actually bigger than I would have ever guessed. Yeah, so he's, you know, that's not, it's not 5'11", 155, like that is a small person.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Vin Diesel is not a small person, but they did a good job making him seem bigger than he ever really was though with some of the stuff they did, I'd say. For sure, and I'm looking through these pictures now. You just gotta type in Vin Diesel XXX and just go through the Google images. And I would say, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:55:07 this isn't really hitting me until right now, that now when guys are in superhero movies and all that, they have been like on some stuff to get to that point. You know? And here he just looks like, I don't know. Like you're not, you don't have these crazy defined abs and like just massive, you're not a don't have these crazy defined abs and like just no massive You're not a sub 10% body fat with just bulging muscles
Starting point is 00:55:30 But also like he does look like he kind of lifts, you know, it's not like a slob or anything. No Yeah, so I would say early Vin Diesel He still gets some credit as someone that could could have probably lifted a weight or two, you know, yeah Yeah, he definitely lifted some completely throwing him under the bus in this game that it's like, oh he wasn't big Yeah, I'll put him on the line of Looking back now. I can see how at that time you would think he was this really big guy I think in real life now, he's just in less good shape. He's probably how old is for gonna? So, you know, he's not right
Starting point is 00:56:07 So it's easier to look at him now and be like man I kind of just look like you're out of shape maybe but yeah He's probably still in pretty good shape for his age even actually, you know, uh-huh All right, who'd have got next next on the list We're gonna go. All right, we're gonna we're gonna Change up the genres a little bit. There is a cult classic movie called Heavyweights. We've referenced it many times on this show. It's given us such great lines as,
Starting point is 00:56:39 get these salamis off my back. Chipmunks, download. Chipmunks, download. Get over here here you devil log Things like that do it to it Lars and that leads us to this next guy Lars from heavy weight Lars was one of the Do you want to say henchmen of Ben Stiller's character?
Starting point is 00:57:01 he was one of the primary one was one of the trainers at the fat camp and he was, I feel like they framed him as kind of like the Kind of like the European It's fun. I did a little research. It's funny. It's they can say it's ambiguous as to where Lars is even from because they never Like German or you know Dutch Something German it kind of seems like for Lars. He has this accent, the way he speaks, and he just, yeah, he's like this European muscle coming in. And now when you go back and look,
Starting point is 00:57:35 you're like, you're kind of just like a, I think my brother Ryan said this to me, he goes, when you go back and watch the movie, you're not even sure if he's big or if he just has good posture when you look at it. It's just always standing very upright, but he never actually seems that jacked at any point. But in the movies, I feel like he's supposed to come off as the most jacked guy in all of the fat camp. Yeah. And what I'd say about him as I look at the pictures from the movie.
Starting point is 00:58:02 about him as I look at the pictures from the movie, I wouldn't know for sure if he's a guy that works out at all or a guy that's fairly young and just kind of naturally like not fat. That's just how his body is. Yeah, that's just what his body looks like. Where you're like, you don't look out of shape but you don't particularly look like, like he probably,
Starting point is 00:58:22 say he could probably put 225 on the bench and hit it for a single or something like that. I could see that, yeah, yeah. Like without even going to the gym. It seems like a guy that wouldn't go to the gym and he could probably bench like 225 really poorly for one. Yeah, that's what I'd say. You know, butt comes off the bench, really heaves it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But he did do it. But he probably like played a couple sports in high school and that sort of thing. Like that's what he looks like. And just has kind of good genetics, but isn't actually doing anything with it. Wait, not big though. Like not even a little, like I can't,
Starting point is 00:58:53 there's not a muscle on his body that looks like it's particularly big or defined even. You know, just. No, it's the whole thing. He just has a tank top on and has good posture, guess and Lars was six foot tall played by Tom Hodges Six foot tall is all the time. I just assumed he was bigger than that, too Okay We have one in a similar vein to that I'm not gonna go to that I'm a shift again and
Starting point is 00:59:24 Maybe this will rub. We'll see if we can find one that will ruffle some to that. I'm not gonna go to that. I'm gonna shift again and maybe this will, we'll see if we can find one that will ruffle some listener feathers. I'm gonna say Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy particularly as Bane in Dark Knight. And so everyone's seen that movie. There's probably nobody listening to this that hasn't seen it.
Starting point is 00:59:44 What is Dark Knight Returns, I guess, guess actually is it funny to think the turn? Okay? I if you're a woman I 100% give you a pass for not watching Batman But it's really funny to think especially if you're around our age They'd like no just never saw if you are to say tell me if you've never seen Dark Knight or Dark Knight returns I could see if you say I never if you never saw Whatever dark might begins the first one in the trilogy. Yeah, a lot of people I don't think you've seen that one. I mean, I feel like you have to watch all three
Starting point is 01:00:13 to appreciate all of them. I agree, I agree. This one came out when I was in college. I had friends, I had friends that they would watch this movie, I'm not lying, every day. They would just watch this movie every day. Like it would, at some point in the day, they would turn it on.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Sometimes they'd seriously sit down and watch it. Sometimes it was the background noise. But I can name people that they watch this movie every day. That was how impactful it was. I don't even blame them for doing that. I don't even think that's unreasonable to watch this movie every day. When you're, if this came out,
Starting point is 01:00:41 when you were like in your early 20s and you were a guy, it's not inappropriate to have watched this every single day. It was a game changer though. This movie was so many people It was it was just like what I mean dark the the prior movie is I mean to me is still better But this is movie is also like really good. I think yeah But so Tom Hardy height and weight as he played Bane this is kind of shot because But, so Tom Hardy height and weight as he played Bane. This is kind of, cause there are, if you have a mental image of Bane,
Starting point is 01:01:10 even Tom Hardy as Bane, like he's like pretty big you think, right? Like I remember reading. Jacked. Okay, and okay, say the stats. What was his numbers here? Tom Hardy as Bane, five nine, which is not an, is not a short king
Starting point is 01:01:27 or anything like that, but it's not an imposing height, first of all, to anyone unless you're 5'3". 5'9", 185 pounds. Which if you're like a high school wrestler, you're probably like a really good high school wrestler at 5'9", 185. That's the ideal body type for that. But I'm also talking like a high school wrestler at 5'9", 185. That's the ideal body type for that page. But I'm also talking like a high school wrestler.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Not like one of the most badass super villains of all time. Okay, I remember reading and maybe, cause there's another one, Tom Hardy, did you ever see the movie Bronson? Um, no. So he's kind of just like Bane without the mask on. He's this, it's a a story about is he like a prisoner in
Starting point is 01:02:08 Great Britain, I believe it's like based on a true story But for that one he kind of has the if you google the picture kind of the like burly He's got the shaved head and sort of the the prison fitness physique thing going on And I could have sore for one of these it must maybe was that one that he weighed like 200 or 210 or something like that. And this was before I was, I had kind of, at this point, was kind of going to the gym, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:31 but had not taken anything too seriously yet. And we were thinking, man, like seeing Tom Hardy, okay, he let's just say he weighs around 200 pounds, being like, oh my God, if I was that big, I would just, at 6'1", 200, I would be an animal. And just that seems so insane to me. And on the other side of it, I can confirm,
Starting point is 01:02:50 I am not an animal at 6'1", 215. I just feel like a regular dude. And I would say, you know, Brad Pitt, for example, you talked about how lean he was, which he is extremely lean, you know, it's like his body fat was fricking low, like in the in-fight club and stuff. Tom Hardy's body, at 185, his body fat's not even,
Starting point is 01:03:11 I mean, it looks like he's like, I don't know, 18% body fat, you know, like. Yeah, it's a bulky look for sure. It's not lean at all. So I'm saying, so you're 185 and not lean. And not overly muscular either. But to be fair, the way they shoot him in the movie, he just seems like the most jack guy ever.
Starting point is 01:03:35 But then you look at some of these stills, you're like, oh, I mean, you look like you, I mean, you work out. Definitely, definitely looks like you work, you can definitely see some delts, pecs uh-huh and some biceps You know like he definitely looks like he works out for sure But it's not this larger-than-life image you have in your head going back It's almost like ruining it for me looking at some of this honestly well it kind of doesn't depict Bane
Starting point is 01:04:00 Fairly because so here's the thing. I just had to look up Bane. You know Bane outside of this movie prior to the movie in the Batman comics and movies Bane is depicted as a very large and muscular man Known for his imposing size and strength often enhanced by a special venom that further increases his physical Capabilities making him one of Batman's most physically formidable foes According to the essential Batman Encyclopedia, circa 2008, Bane is six foot one and 325 pounds of pure muscle when not on venom.
Starting point is 01:04:36 So 6'1", 325 of muscle would be an enormous man. Like then you're talking about like people that you walk by at the Arnold and you're like, Oh my God, is that you know, like, is that Ronnie Coleman? You know, like, is that or or Oh, you do strong man, obviously, but you just weren't right with being six, five. But yeah, right. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, Oh, you're Mitch Hooper. At that point.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Actually, yeah, Martins Lisa. Yeah, you just don't have the height, but you have the size. Right, right. Yeah. Martin's Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. You just don't have the height, but you have the size. Right. Right. But that is big. They may be like six, three, but like a six, one, three, 25 of pure muscle would be an enormous. I mean, he's frickin enormous. To quote Greg, you said that would be enormous.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Greg on the horn. I mean, Greg probably also thinks Tom Hardy at five nine one eighty five is enormous is bigger than yeah 99% of the population so by default he is enormous But Hollywood is pretty good at doing that though, too You know, I mean there obviously because when you watch the movie you don't really get the feeling that he's No feeling that he's weighs more than 185 like you feel like like I feel like My feeling when I watch that is I'm watching a 250 pound. Yes. Yes. He feels you know much much larger When you in every way when you watch that he feels like no less than a
Starting point is 01:05:55 250 pound man, honestly, like I'd say it feels like between a 240 and 280 pound man when I watched that character But he's 185 which is kind of wild. At least that's what it said on the Internet is probably wrong. So I've ranted about one eighty five. It's not even right. Someone will bet you dumb bastards. It was two or five. This. OK, so then I had to look for comparison because they make him seem like bigger than Batman, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Right. Like which they have to because I mean, it says everything like anyone that's a Batman fan, they're like, oh, yeah, Bane is This enormously like the most physical imposing character in the world It said for the for Batman begins Christian Bale was initially 220 But then it said Christopher Nolan had him cut down to 190 for the next two movies. Okay again I'm not sure how you actually verify that but right, right So overall so like was Tom Hardy big or what's the final you know? Oh, he was big. What was he big? He definitely looked like he lifted like we said though. You know like there was no doubt. He was doing some lifting Yeah, it definitely looked like he lifted. I
Starting point is 01:06:59 Think this one is a maybe a bigger deception of how big he actually was in comparison to right I think this one is maybe a bigger deception of how big he actually was in comparison to, the size depicted compared to what he actually was is maybe this might have the most discrepancy on it. That's true, I think that you're right. That's a good way of putting it. Because if you were to tell me to guess those numbers, I would have been like,
Starting point is 01:07:16 I'm, he was probably at least six foot, probably even more, and yeah, like 220 at least. That's the way it comes out in the movie. It's a different thing than Lars. If you go back and watch Heavyweights, you're like, oh, Lars wasn't big. He doesn't even look big. Like in hindsight, you know, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:07:34 he never even was big. With the Bane, Tom Hardy character, you watch the movie still in the back, oh yeah, it looks pretty big, right? It's like, no, there's some trickery going on. Who do we got next next next on the list okay I'll go with internet legend Chuck Norris yeah not actually that big of a guy you know memes aside and I'll be the first to say,
Starting point is 01:08:06 I haven't seen a whole lot of Chuck Norris' work in my life. Tanner, are you very familiar with many of his pieces? I mean, Walker, Texas Ranger, of course. Not even that. I don't even know if I've seen a full episode of that in my entire life. Well, I've never seen a full episode,
Starting point is 01:08:22 but I've absolutely seen it on TV before. Like, it used to be on TV all the time when I was little. Yeah, I never watched. I never liked it. I never, it was never in my life been a show that I would have chosen to have watched. I wouldn't have choose to watch even if that made sense. But they did definitely present him as, you know, the kind of an action hero kung fu like badass, kind of beach up kind of guy. And I mean, he has the total gym to his names. I was gonna say he also the total gym kind of adds
Starting point is 01:08:54 to the whole thing, right? Definitely like that is part of it is that I also this fitness guru, because he has this pilates board thing with a cable system on it or whatever. Also if you look at him and all the marketing in him, images of the total gym, he doesn't look remotely big in any of them. It just looks like now especially, I'm just looking at this now,
Starting point is 01:09:15 the most 90s middle-aged dad possible. Like doesn't, I mean, if you're like, oh this guy doesn't, if you didn't know he's Chuck Norris, you're like, this guy doesn't lift, but we're gonna have him come try the total gym. You'd like well. Yeah, obviously you know this person's new to fitness That actually might be the more shocking might bench 185 for a double Yeah, that'd be about the the upper limits of that Like that's I don't know maybe it's more or less than that
Starting point is 01:09:43 but that's just what I feel like if I'm just looking at that guy and I you walked into the gym and You're just making assumptions based purely on Your first impression. That's kind of what I would think If I ever actually thought that Chuck Norris was big though Like yeah, but he does more of he's more of just a meme But he did kind of have the fitness But he does more of he's more of just a meme. He is more of a me, but he did kind of have the fitness
Starting point is 01:10:08 Right, I don't want to say fitness icon He definitely wasn't that but there was a point in time where Chuck Norris his name was associated with The total gym and like working out absolutely right and looking back that might have been a stretch You could find a couple pictures of him Where he was lean though Like if you just type in Chuck Norris jacked, there's a couple of older oiled-up pictures Where he's at least as lean, you know, there's pictures where He definitely was in shape Something about him having a lot of like fake generated Yeah I'm having the exact same haircut and facial hair for like 50 years makes it really confusing is this Chuck Norris from?
Starting point is 01:10:53 like 1960 or is this Chuck Norris from 2000 I can't even hardly tell Right because there's also photos of him where he is not in shape at all Just looks like the most regular dude ever With a lot of hair on his chest. No, it looks like for a couple photo shoots They got him actually like they probably got him to lean down and pulled some water weight out and got some Really oiled up pictures where it's like no you're at least lean. I mean you say a couple photo shoots I think it's like one photo shoot. I think there's one photo shoot actually
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yeah, I like to Chuck Norris get that reputation of being ripped from one photo shoot I think that's all it took back in the day. He just had to trick people once and Two pictures where you look pretty lean You're set for the next 15 20 years easy here don't gotta worry about anything Yeah, Chuck Norris didn't we say this step five nine one fifty five so actually all kind of sit 155 I'm sure that flux judging by these pictures that weight certainly fluctuated that and also the beam if you only know about the meme Of Chuck Norris you probably would think he's a lot bigger more imposing guy than what he actually is right
Starting point is 01:12:02 Because yeah so many when you look at picture, so many of these are just AI generated memes of Chuck Norris with the most insane abs and biggest arms ever. Then when you go back and look, you're like, oh yeah, that's not actually that guy. No, no, no. So Chuck Norris not big. Still an icon though.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, an icon but not big. Like not even like, he is not in the Vin Diesel or Tom Hardy category of like who's still Like they lit he's not big now. It really looks like he touched a weight most the time in most pictures Okay, this one kind of reminds me actually quite a bit of the Lars one Where it has this feeling when you watch it you're a little kid and you're like, no This is the big guy because that's what the the show tells me this show that I tell that I watch tells me and that would be the bash brothers for mighty ducks Specifically Fulton Reed from D1
Starting point is 01:12:56 Later it became the bash brothers Fulton Reed and Dean Portman Dean Portman. I think was actually a little bigger I'd have to look at what his height and weight was, but Fulton Reed, as it progresses through the Mighty Ducks, you know, those kids were like, I don't know, 10, 11, 12-year-olds in the first movie. What makes this one hard is that we're talking about like children now at this point. Right, but those guys get into high school by then,
Starting point is 01:13:21 and I think what the problem was was that actor didn't like, he was a little taller than some of the other younger or some of the other young actors in D1. And by the end of it, this kid that was supposed to be the big, that's what had not done. He wasn't even bigger. He wasn't even big anymore.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Even relative, like he wasn't even like taller than the other kids. Yeah, he had been passed up. Right. So Fulton Reed Reed when you watch it I'm like I'm not sure if there's anything about you that Any of them that makes makes me think you're the big guy. Oh, he has my trench coat thing out of the bandana You know that that was it that was it
Starting point is 01:13:58 But Dean portman, am I saying that right Dean portman And am I saying that right? Dean Portman. I'm going to look at a picture and see it. I think, see, I think he was actually. Yeah, there's there's pictures where those two are together, where it's Dean Portman and Fulton Reed. And I'm like, no, the Dean Portman actor actually looks like a big. It does. Yeah, it looks like he has a bigger frame than the other guy.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Right. And then the one, the original one, what did I say? His name is now Fulton Reed. Looks like a little kid compared to him. You know, like there's a mismatch there. So Fulton Reed, I'm going to say, was not big. Not big. Did not pass the test. I think you have to cover this one because we made this in
Starting point is 01:14:49 twenty nineteen because it's funny. The most hilarious to me that it's on here because but it's only because we made this in twenty nineteen. This is the most or twenty or twenty. You know, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty person you could ever have on here. I don't even know who this is. I don't even know if you wrote this or I wrote this or what.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I have no idea. First I'm like, so aw- Out of left field now. It does. I saw the name like I don't even know who this is and then I read the rest of the notes and I'm like, I might know who this is. So the one on here do not know for sure who put this. You have-
Starting point is 01:15:22 We have Travis Maldonado Tiger King. And this is, this is, what is the Tiger King's actual name? Joe Exotic, this is Joe Exotic's gay lover, isn't it? Isn't this the boy, the boy he entices to marry him? Yes, I think so. And there are some pictures where he kind of almost looks lean, but, um, yeah, I could see
Starting point is 01:15:49 he's probably a guy that if you worked out, probably could be in, yeah, I could get big. I'd have like some shoulders on them or something. Yeah. But here now I think he's just, uh, what? Probably 20 just as 20 leanness going for them. And that's about it. I just liked that that one's on there because of what just that we had left that one on there for six years or whatever It is of an era
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah Man what a show Okay now should we get into our other we have a kind of a different category here and this is Guys that we thought were jacked and wait a second it turns out yeah, they were pretty jacked and I have a my first one is actually more of a tweener where like this is just like the introduction to this category and I'm gonna say Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, because there are some scenes and stuff
Starting point is 01:16:50 where he looked enormous. And there's like, I remember so many things about, I'm sure Dr. Mike has done a video on like critiquing Wolverine's workout. Like I feel like in magazines at the time, there's all the things about like Wolverine's workout and all that sort of stuff. And you know, I actually got to pull up pictures. Well, this one is the perfect example
Starting point is 01:17:12 of how fast things have changed though. If you look at, there's pictures comparing Hugh Jackman, Wolverine in the first Wolverine to like Wolverines from the last few years. Yeah. And it's not the same body, man. Like he has. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:28 He's gotten way bigger. He has leaned out and gotten way more muscular as like the first one. Doesn't even really look like a guy that's supposed, like I don't know, you kind of just look like a homeless dude to be honest. Like an ill-tempered homeless man here. I don't know, you got claws or what's going on?
Starting point is 01:17:45 And then these later ones, like, yeah, you look like you could straight up kill someone here. Yeah, and I do, you know, the number I was seeing on him is 62205. So if you're 62205 and really lean, I mean, you have to have some muscle on you to, you know, that's like a really lean 62205 would be someone you see without a shirt off glistening
Starting point is 01:18:06 and you'd be like, okay, you're pretty jacked, I guess. Yeah, you could look really ripped there. Right. I believe there's also a video, this is going way back. I thought I'd ever seen a video of Hugh Jackbin deadlifting like 500 or maybe it was like 405 for reps, like way back in the day. So definitely had some strength too.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Yeah. Here it is right here. Hugh Jackman, Deadlift Workout. What's he doing on YouTube? We got Deadlift Training 2014. We got two reds, a blue and a different one. So yeah, probably like 405-ish. So he was moving some weights.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Yeah. Oh, there's multiple videos here of him lifting. Yeah, oh, he has, he's doing a maneuver that I have not seen pulled too often, Tanner. He's deadlifting, yeah, he's got four, the video's cut off on the sides, but it looks like four plates. He has the mixed grip deadlift with the straps on.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Do you remember that maneuver? Yeah, classic. I know Big Shane was a classic big script with straps. He was the only person I routinely saw do that. Yeah. And he always did it Someone listening if you use mixed grip with straps, tell me why Do you know anyone that does cuz that is a rarity
Starting point is 01:19:40 Yeah, you can't say we just we just said Hugh Jackman and Shane. Those are the two people on earth that do it. Yeah Okay, so Hugh Jackman, yeah at at times, you know, kind of jacked. Yeah. All right, who else do you want to hit on the list? Some of these were like in the Mastomix Discord, we had mentioned we were going to talk about this and people were throwing some names out here too. All right, actually, so this is one I had to flip-flop on once I actually went back and looked.
Starting point is 01:20:03 I just had a feeling, because you know, you always think people were bigger when you're looking back on this is I thought the bad guy from Bloodsport the guy that Jean-Claude Van Damme fights at the end. I don't even know his name. I can't what is it? I don't know Famous movie star but the bad guy at the end of Bloodsport You know, he's the really jacked one that's beating up Jean-Claude Van Damme and I'm like, there's no way this guy is big I actually put him on the list before we started as guys that you thought were jacks I'm like, there's no way and I went back and looked and he's actually pretty jacked
Starting point is 01:20:38 I was surprised how big this guy is you looking at this Tanner? Yeah, I was pulling it up right now big this guy is. You looking at this Tanner? Yeah, I was pulling it up right now. Like he's got a big upper body on him for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he's jacked, right? Yeah, I think so. He passed the test for me, especially when we're talking more of like a Kung Fu kind of movie. Um, a lot of those guys were more on the really lean side, but this is he's pretty jacked actually Yeah All right, I'm gonna say Mark McGuire Particularly with the Cardinals in that home run
Starting point is 01:21:18 Season run with him and Sammy Sosa When you look pictures of him his upper body like his forearms and arms are fricking huge. They are actually, look, just some of these pictures. Yeah, he looks really, I mean, even his lower body, I mean, they got tight pants on, but actually, yes. I'm like, dude, you don't have stick legs at all, man. Some of these pictures when he's mid home run swing, like it looks like he absolutely looks, some of these pictures when he's mid home run swing.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Like it looks like he absolutely looks, it's like, ah, build me a home run slugger in the lab. Yeah. Well, we kind of did, here he is. And then when you're done, do you want to go be like DN too for like a team? Right. Yeah, he looks very large in a lot of these pictures. Yeah, so Mark McGuire was big.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm gonna say that. Yeah, there's one. Especially, I mean, for picky, especially a baseball player. Yes, there's one of him holding up a kid here from behind. Yeah, he looks huge. Yeah, I don't see the picture. Is it his son? I know his son was the bat boy for the... Oh, I say it's a, I don't know, It's a little kid with a bat on the field. So
Starting point is 01:22:27 that was just a regular player. That's what they look like. Players look like 10 year old children. Yeah. Yeah. He is big. Um, one that I've thought multiple times through the years, was he actually that big? And yes, he is actually that big, big pop-up pump from WWF. Yeah, he actually looked like a bodybuilder. Scott Steiner, he has, he looks very close to a bodybuilder. Some of these pictures, he is enormous. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:59 He's very large. I remember being a kid at the time thinking, those are the biggest arms I've ever seen in my whole life and To be fair those probably were the biggest arms. I'd ever seen in my whole life at that point Yeah, he is huge like he has like the cartoon where like it doesn't know spongebob cartoon We're like muscles come out of his muscles like where you flex and like an extra muscle come pop pops out I hop of your muscle back. What muscle is that? Yeah, he would go up and do the double bicep pose, I think, before he got in the ring. And yeah, huge.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah, Marius Pujanowski was, of course, jacked. He was. And ripped, you know, like one of the most ripped strongmen of all time, if not the most. Pujanowski was the other one we had on the list, and that's one you can go back and look at. Sometimes now, once you get your mind adjusted to what strong men look like nowadays,
Starting point is 01:23:48 you go back and look at some of the other ones, you think, ah, you're actually not that big. You know, because everyone's so huge now. But Pujanowski, yeah, he's not like huge the way some of the guys are, but he's also, his physique is crazy. And it does pass the test of time. You know one other one that I'm gonna put
Starting point is 01:24:06 on an honorable mention from our first half of the discussion is Chris Hemsworth as Thor. This falls into the Bane discussion where Bane is supposed to be enormous. Oh, let me look at this. How big is Thor supposed to be Because I believe Thor is probably huge like a literally like a Norse mythology very large compared to humans Six foot six in comics, so I don't know I'm finding different things, but very large, but
Starting point is 01:24:47 Chris Hemsworth s thor is six three two twenty so I'm like Really that big though. Yeah, which I'm like is not small, but I just It's also the Hollywood thing like you don't you're not getting actor You know if you look like Batista So the Hollywood thing, like you don't, you're not getting actor, you know, if you look like a Batista, then you're typecast into certain roles.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Like you're not gonna be get to be Thor or whatever, how that works. But you know, sometimes when I'm like, well, Thor is supposed to be this larger than a human being character. Like, he should look like half Thor, you know? Like that's what Thor is supposed to look like. I mean, yes, six, three, six, three, two, twenty, not that not small, though, either.
Starting point is 01:25:31 No, it's not actually a surprise. He is supposedly that big because that's yeah. I mean, as far as Hollywood goes, that's like a giant compared to a lot of people that you I mean, if he's standing next to Tom Hardy, he would look like a giant, you know. Right. But yeah, that's I think that's one of to Tom Hardy, he would look like a giant, you know? Right, true. But yeah, I think that's one of them too, where if you looked at, if you compared the Thor physique through the years,
Starting point is 01:25:52 I'm sure that's another one that's just gotten more and more extreme as time has gone on. Right. Well, yeah. So how much is Thor supposed to weigh? The son of Odin uses his might abilities as God of thunder to direct his home Asgard and planet earth like 640 pounds
Starting point is 01:26:18 But yeah, he is pretty jacked and a lot of these actually depending where you look at him some he just looks really lean But other ones he looks Really jacked too, right? Okay, anyone else we need to I actually have one I forgot to put on the list people you thought were probably jacked But turns out yeah, not really that would be a lot of people a lot of the guys from the cast of Jersey Shore I remember the time being like oh, yeah, those guys hit the gym, they work out hard. Mike the Situation has the whole abs thing, that's like what he's known for. And now when you go back and look,
Starting point is 01:26:53 like yeah, I mean he had, here if you go Mike the Situation abs, there's like whole things about it. But now you're like, I don't know, you kind of have abs I guess. He now I don't know. You kind of have abs, I guess. He had pretty big arms, though. He did have pretty big arms. But and yes, I mean, I
Starting point is 01:27:11 should actually should knock this. They actually were fairly jacked. But I remember the time it seemed like to me as a guy that wasn't really working out in working out that hard in probably what, 2010, 11, something when this was on Everything and all man. These guys are like really really built like they're like damn your bodybuilders. It's like well, no not quite here
Starting point is 01:27:33 Okay, I did have one more because this one popped up in the discord earlier and I wanted to look it up If you ever anyone that was a saved by the bell fan AC Slater was like King of the school for his like amazing size. What's that actor's name? He's a he's a. He's later. Yeah, what the hell is this? Mario Lopez. There you go.
Starting point is 01:27:59 How big is Mario Lopez? I demand to know we found Mario Lopez how big are you I must know 60 pounds I'm seeing five eight one seventy five okay pictures of him standing on them sipping it's from some saved by the bell shoot like standing with his shirt off kind of like Flexing with his arms crossed and yeah, I mean he was a kid, but now it's like yeah, you do just look like a kid though right, right Yeah We ever you big saved by the bell guy I
Starting point is 01:28:42 Saved by the Bell guy? Um, I actually didn't like it because my sister liked it, so it meant it was between that's what stood between me and watching what I actually wanted to watch. So then I was sour tasted it. You know, I had a sour taste when I was younger than the age of someone that would actually like Saved by the Bell. Then by the time I was old enough to where I would like
Starting point is 01:29:02 Saved by the Bell, I was already disgruntled by saved by the bell. So I never liked it that well. Although I'm quite positive, I've probably seen every single episode. I also don't think like the original show had that many episodes. Oh, because I feel like I like I feel feel like there was like far less than maybe I'm completely wrong on that. How many episodes of Saved by the Bell? That's what I want to know.
Starting point is 01:29:32 There was four seasons of it. OK, four seasons, so 86, actually. That's right. More than what I thought. That's a decent run. Yeah, no, that's a good run. I so yeah, I wasn't a huge fan for those reasons But I feel like I've actually seen most of them and I get all the references and stuff. How about you? Didn't didn't like it to me. It was
Starting point is 01:29:52 Similar in the way that it stood between me wanting to watch shows that I actually wanted to watch You know, it's like I'd rather be watching cartoons or something. That's not this so I saw some of them but as a kid I didn't that show just didn't hit with me. So I stayed away from it when I could. I mean, it also premiered in 1989. Well, I was like, when I was watching TV, I thought those people were way older than me. So that was also why I felt like I couldn't relate.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I'm like, oh, they're all in high school or whatever. I'm in fourth grade. Right, right. That was part of my thing too. And that's what I'm saying by the time I was old enough I'm I was already like no, I don't like this. I like boy meets world or whatever the you know I did see for sure more boy meets world then yeah, I say by the bell more of a Topanga guy than a Kelly Kapowski Kelly Kapoor Kapowski see I can't remember they both sound now isn't Kelly Kapoor Kapowski. See, I can't even remember.
Starting point is 01:30:45 They both sound, no, isn't Kelly Kapoor in that The Office? Is that her name on The Office? Yes, I'm getting very confused. I'm like, what am I saying? I know that's a thing. Yeah, Kelly Kapoor, that is The Office. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, that's good. Yeah. All right, that's our list, right? That's the list. Tell us who we missed.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah, so yes, in the YouTube comment section, let us know what we got wrong. What did we say that you disagree with? Like, no, I still believe that person's big. You cannot tell me that they are. To be fair, a lot of these people actually are big. It's just the image that is printed on screen is so much larger than life than what they actually are then what they actually are yes some of a few we found literally never were rapid Fight Club was not actually big yeah yeah but the
Starting point is 01:31:39 better comment would be who did we miss on the list like who are the glaringly obvious ones that to you and your childhood you made larger than life and then either you found out they were just portrayed that big or they weren't actually big or what the outcome is there so let us know in the YouTube comment section for sure people that you thought were jacked okay I'm gonna hit you with the strength help people people that are actually jacked use the strength. Oh plates That's how you actually get jacked You know if you want to be if you want to be Thor and the next time that
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Starting point is 01:34:07 thank you, Texas Power Bars. Imagine thinking this was okay. Yes, yes, Tanner. I'm just here for the comments. I've got this. Also, I do gotta say since we've been saying those, all right. I actually did see someone in full seriousness. They don't listen to massonomics. They don't add no thing about it, but in full seriousness on their story,
Starting point is 01:34:40 just as like yesterday, it was something sassy and then it says, say it louder for the people in the back. And I'm like, maybe I'm just too aware of it now, but like you can't be using that one anymore. It's played out, it's been done. You can't do that anymore. It's off limits. You can't use that seriously.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Nope, it's off limits. That one in particular almost, where it's like, no, you can't say, say it louder for the people in the back and not be joking I'd yeah the big but now that the mass dynamics people have started to just flood comments sections with all of the sayings and also in the home gym discord Sometimes it almost feels like I'm losing my mind because all I read is the same comments over and over every day But they're also hilarious because they're now getting mixed and mashed together two extremes that I would have never expected Yeah
Starting point is 01:35:30 I'm working on this. I don't know what out of the lot just in the last week I got to be in my bonnet on this little project this gym equipment project that I'm working on Oh, and I've just gone in. This wasn't two weeks ago. I wouldn't have had any interest in this. And all of a sudden, I don't know what happened. And I'm like, OK, yep, I'm doing this. So I'm making a display of all different vintage 45-pound plates.
Starting point is 01:36:00 I was going to ask you about this, because you had posted another picture of another what? Well, actually haven't talked about this yet. Have we yeah, no, so What I'm what I've been doing just it within the last week is buying up a whole big variety of vintage 45 pound pairs are you gonna do kind of that just only? Yeah, yes. Yes, which looks cool Yeah And I just only yeah, yes. Yes, which looks cool Yeah, and I'll tell you how I'm planning on doing it and I'll say it out loud on this podcast So people can also comment with their suggestions as to how they would do it differently
Starting point is 01:36:33 I'm pretty quite sure this is actually what I'm gonna do But maybe someone will have a suggestion that I like better or like a slight slight alteration But it is an effort thing but the only thing I'm interested in at this point is 45s. Yep. And I only want one pair of each and I don't want 35s. I don't want 25s. I don't want 10s. I don't want fives.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Anything else. I just want one each unique pair so that they're all different. And so, so far I've purchased some people will this will some of these will mean something to some people and some of none some of them will mean nothing to some people but you'll recognize some of these so I should hit this one's not finalized but I'm quite sure it is will be a one pair of Schisler Eagle 45s the color Okay, the gray so that's all I can get so the blues are still on my list
Starting point is 01:37:29 I I will put a set of blue on the on there and gray both I consider those different and I just like those so those we each have a and the blue are is that because the blue are Much rarer is that why they're rare and I just think they look cooler I don't know I just like but I mean they're they are hard to come by though. Yeah, they're a little I guess a little harder I just I haven't so far, but I've only I have been looking for those for a while actually, but okay I want the blue Schisler Eagles. I also I have a pair of American Olympian 45 pound plates those would be hard to find those aren't
Starting point is 01:38:03 super 45 pound plates those would be hard to find those aren't super Rare they're not super old. They're like eight 1980s deep dish But I think they look the script on them the writing on them looks really cool And then see I can't you Google it you won't even find yeah, you're not finding no googling those no Bfco I've got a pair of those but those are moderately Collectible you know not super cheap and not super expensive. Not super expensive, BFCO. You usually have a small BFCO on them. Yep. Okay. I think I got the picture here for some of those. Yep. Yeah. I got a pair
Starting point is 01:38:38 of Marcy 45s, which those look really cool. If you Google google those I think you'll see them like Marcy deep dish 45 there's got to be some pictures on there. Yeah Yeah, and they'll say they'll say Los Angeles on the bottom of them like the top of the place plate says Marcy Co There's like the X Angeles I think those look really cool. I got a pair of those coming. Yep Universal 45s those are not particularly rare or anything
Starting point is 01:39:14 I just always thought the the way that they say universal on them looks cool, and I don't know that's that's a weird word I'm so very generic search term. Yeah Yeah, that was like impossible to find on Google with the yeah I'm typing the particulars of this don't really matter so anyways you got some on the way all right yeah so I've already bought like four or five different pairs actually and then I've got a few things around of course already so what I'm gonna do at first I was thinking you know I've got those couple York deep dish that I just mounted the the
Starting point is 01:39:46 horn directly to the stud on the wall. I'm like, oh, with what I want to do, I don't really know if I want to be going and mounting it's like a lot of these like a couple of studs. Yeah, it's going to end up being a thousand pounds. You know, I just a few studs. Yeah, it seems like I was looking at what some other people had and talking to them and what I decided I'm gonna do is I'm gonna make My own thing that'll sit right up next to all where I'm actually think I'm gonna put it is directly behind There's four flags right now there. There's like the come and take it
Starting point is 01:40:22 Yeah in that corner back in the Gadsden flag back by the reverse hyper Yep, and I'm gonna like take a couple of those flags off. I'm gonna build this What I think I'm gonna use is 108 inch tall bells of steel What's their three by three big they're big man a core? What's their three by three big they're big man a core? I'm gonna, but I think I'm gonna buy three 108 inch tall tall uprights their tallest one of the manta core and then by 17 inch cross members
Starting point is 01:41:05 So it'll be an upright two 17 inch cross members another upright two more 17 inch cross members and another upright Uh-huh the cross members just kind of hold it all together Those would just go roughly at the top and roughly at the bottom. Yep So then I've got these three uprights and then I would put weight horns in those so do they? But what keeps them from tipping over so at the base then I buy those feet Like rogue cells. Oh like the extension feet or whatever. Yeah the rogue extent the extension extender feats I don't think bells has them so I'd buy those. Yeah, they got them right here They come out and go down and kind of a 45 degree angle. Yeah. Yeah Yep
Starting point is 01:41:34 So I could buy those or rogue rogue has ones that just are even shorter that just come out and go down at like They're I like the ones that don't stick out like only like 10 inches or so, rather than like, I don't really want like the 26 inch ones. I want the shorter ones. And then the uprights and that little foot both have holes you could mount into the concrete. So then I would, once I get it in place, I would mount it in the concrete. And the uprights would be right up neck against the wall.
Starting point is 01:42:06 And it actually, I think it actually kind of adds to the display because then you see this three by three black rack thing that everything sits on. And it kind of, that becomes part of the display at a certain point. Yeah, okay. So this is actually kind of a project now. Yeah, it's becoming more and more of a project the longer I
Starting point is 01:42:27 mess with it and think of what I'm going to do. So that is roughly my plan. And there's plenty of room there. And most of the plates I'm going to put, I went with one hundred and eight inch tall uprights because it gives me the reverse hypers forty five inches tall. So I'll be able to fit at least three rows of plates going up above the reverse above the reverse hyper line Or the the GHR line basically yeah, so three rows up and three rows wide so I can at least fit nine
Starting point is 01:42:57 Up there and then really going down that you just couldn't see as well I could do a couple more rows so I could really fit 15 yes, that's there so what a and see as well, I could do a couple more rows so I could really fit 15 sets there. So would a pair of York deep dish ever make their way out of that display? Well, the tricky part is I actually like where both the sets of York deep dishes are at now because it looks cool.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Like they kind of bookend all the bars on the wall over there. So at some point in time, I may need now one more pair of New York deep dish. Yeah, and what I would say, this makes more sense to someone that's into collecting vintage weights. Most of these ones I all named are not super high end.
Starting point is 01:43:36 These are all cheaper than York deep dish plates. Yeah. These are all plates that are for a pair that are worth somewhere between 200 and 500 bucks for a pair. And I wanted to get all these ones because I think they're ones that look cool, but still aren't that expensive. So I can kind of fill this rack up the top of it right away.
Starting point is 01:43:54 And then I think in time, if I decide I want to buy some of the more expensive ones that can move down the shelf, the cheaper ones would go down. You know, it would be the top shelf, like at the bar. It'd be like, you know, that's how you display it in my mind. It's like the top shelf. And so that's my theory at this point. OK. All right, well.
Starting point is 01:44:15 And I don't know how long it'll be till I do this, but that's what I'm roughly planning on doing. So then, well. I just think it'll look really cool. Oh, it'll look for sure. If I'm going to buy these. And my thing is I want all different ones. Like I don't want yeah Variety thing. Okay, so then are there ones Okay, you said like the blue Schistler are there other ones that would be on the list that are still
Starting point is 01:44:39 Without being absolutely insane. Yeah, Dan lure Dan Lurie If you look I wonder if there's a good picture of those. I feel like I've seen those ones before. And the ones with the tall letters. Yeah. And I'm, the Dan Lurie ones with the tall letters, and I'm only getting two inch Olympic plates also. But I really like the ones, the Dan Lurie two inch
Starting point is 01:45:03 with the tall letters, they look cool. Any of the plates with the tall skinny letters look really cool because no one does that anymore Yeah, it really makes you think that would be a cool look. So those are those are really those are Reasonably priced too. So I will get a pair of those at some point in time The schistler blue ones those are kind of the number one and number two that I'm looking for right now I've checked a lot of the ones off the list Isn't there what isn't there someone else that makes one with the tall letters on it? There's York tall letters. Those are really all maybe that's like the wall of you know like Efron those are like
Starting point is 01:45:40 exceptionally expensive the What? exceptionally expensive the What You know and then you get into like super expensive stuff like Jackson's and stuff like oh that's fine I was dollars of it. They cost like five grand a pair, but I do want a pair of Really there five grand a pair So it's not more Lee. I like the Jackson 45s are three four four, $5,000 a pair. Oh my God. The, what is the, oh, the Ivanko Chrome.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I want to get a pair of the Ivanko Chrome. Those are really cool. Those are four or 500 bucks a pair, two, three, four, five, depending on condition and stuff. So I can get round up a pair of those. Actually, there was someone in Texas that was selling a pair of those. I messaged him and said, hey, would hey, would you consider shipping these is like no, I don't really want to but where do you live? I'm like, well South Dakota, so it's not I'm not gonna be driving there and he goes. Oh, are you Tanner for mass?
Starting point is 01:46:37 He said yes, I said yes sir I am and he hasn't seen that sense but I'm like hopefully that helps mean he would be more likely Yeah, push him hopefully his response is gonna be like oh Price for you is double For you I'll make an exception. Yeah, we'll just double this I Guess the specific plates don't really matter at this point But my that's my I'm more interested in the display of it at this point of like building this display I'm gonna then I didn't specify but I'll have the weight horns, you know that come out obviously and that's what the plate plates would be mounted on
Starting point is 01:47:09 I think it all will work. You know, you asked about how it's gonna be secured and I feel like that Being bolted into the ground and then I could also Attach it to the wall up high if I was worried about it, too You're probably fine though because you'll have three uprights you said yeah three uprights only 17 inches between them Yeah, and then what the feet coming out and you know they have a feet underneath them, too Yeah, that's right actually. I don't know anything about anything, but that seems like that's probably okay I mean we have a big ass concrete slab floor. That's God knows how thick and With it if they're
Starting point is 01:47:45 both if I their hammer drilled and bolted into the concrete like it's not going to tip over. I mean, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, especially if they're bolted in, then yeah, right, right. That's I think I'll bolt them in just because the thought of it tipping over. I mean, it would be I don't think it would be likely but it would also be not ideal. Yeah, because there is going to be heavy weights up high. Uh huh. You know, so I do think it's got and I still wonder about possibly tethering the
Starting point is 01:48:10 top of those uprights to the studs in a couple spots to just. Yeah, to be safe. Just never know someone climbs it someday. True. But I think it'll the display itself will be a bit of a you know, the the framework of it will will be like what is this? You know? Yeah, it'll look Yeah, because some people is like so confused seen uprights not part of a rack Yeah, what is going on right here? And then also other people that don't know anything about vintage weights are gonna be so confused as to what yeah with Wall of plates. What is this about? I don't even, you know, I get that concept because I've seen people do something similar,
Starting point is 01:48:48 but I can see how not that many years ago, if I would have walked into a room like that, I would have just been lost as to what was taking place. To some people, I think they're like that even if you don't know about vintage plates, you'd be like, why are the plates all different? You'd be like, I didn't know there were so many different plates. Why do these look so old
Starting point is 01:49:08 It was why does they have so many different crappy old plates? So that's my project that I'll be working on at some point in time All right. Well that one that one could keep you a little busy for a while. I could see that I Don't know if anyone had that on their 2025 bingo card But I had bingo cards getting pretty interesting and we're only in the first month of 20 25 My bingo cards getting full already Go for that blackout bingo What else do we got this week anything? Is there anything else on the list I think that's kind of I mean I think we pretty well made it made sense
Starting point is 01:49:43 Didn't yeah, I think so we made it all make it make sense and we did it. The math did math this time. It all mathed out pretty well. Okay, make sure to check out our drop like we talked about. Go check out Mastinomics YouTube. Make sure you're subscribed, leaving us comments on there. Leave us a comment on this video. What was our video that came out most recently was? Well, by the time this comes out, it's the Micro Gym Tour, right? Tanner's Miniature Garage Gym.
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