Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 461: Ranking the Worst and Best Gym Songs (it's mostly nu metal)

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Say it louder for the people in the back. That's right. We are here for episode 461 of the Mathsomics podcast. We are the Lifting Podcast about nothing. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. And we are here for episode 461. It's episode 461. You all know what that means, right? Of course, tell us time for our our tier list of bad gym

songs People were in 61 weeks for this we promised it on episode 1 and here it is It just took 460 weeks later. We do have that coming along with several other topics that we'll get to. But first, I want to remind everyone to check out the fine folks over at juggernaut AI check them out on online juggernaut AI dot app. That's the website. Full disclosure, we do have a discount code with them. I don't want anyone to think that we don't.

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pass the test. Yeah, they pass mustard. Okay, my mustard and my mustard and you would say that just because it's the version 2.0 doesn't mean the 1.0 is inferior? It's different Vibes depending on what you're in different strokes for different folks. I would recommend having both and you'll know what I mean All right. Well Tanner said it right there doesn't replace the 1.0. It's just it's just different Okay, so if you want to see what this just different feeling is all about head on over to barefoot dot store use code Mastodon mix and you can save 10% on your next order. Thank you barefoot shoes All right training update I'll just get right into it right away Tanner

Let's have the let's have it training is going really good again. I would say that tonight is Maybe the first time in my entire life of training that I got done lifting, I went to take a shower. I had an arm day, it was an arm day, so I had to speed it up a little bit too. Very busy, I don't know if people know this,

Masanomics has a lot of things going on, my own business has a lot of things going on. With everything going on. You know, with everything going on, time is more valuable than ever. So I did have to speed through it But it was fine because I sped through it and I still knocked it out But I get done I hop in the shower before I get in the shower

You know the mirrors in front of you and for the first time in my life I thought god my arms are actually looking kind of big right now I've never once in my life thought that you've never thought that I've never thought never thought that. And now at 35 years old, I'm like, they're actually starting to look kind of big. I got something going on here right now. So you're pretty happy with the progress. It was almost a state of disbelief. Kind of didn't feel like they were my arms for a minute.

And what do I attribute this to? Obviously juggernaut. But if I had to say one thing, I would say for the first time in my life. I'm really I'm telling you man. It's those it's those seated bicep curls are just inclined inclined curl I've been doing those now for probably eight weeks I abs and I have gotten better at them as time has gone on Yeah, and I mean I can I can take more more volume on them and I think that those are the best

You can't I don't know if I could ever do a Just a standing straight-up regular curl ever again. Yeah, I think I do those every week also I think there's something to that that one and then I do think that adding Getting the lat pulldown machine and just really working that pulldowns good Because you can bang out way more reps You can get just way more volume in on that pull downs than you can on pull ups without a doubt. True.

So now I've been riding that way for several months and then also adding in the, uh, the face pulls. I do the, I sit in the lower one and do seated face pulls. So your body's the lean is out of the equation and that's working my, my delts like never before, man, the whole upper body just coming together the package is top-notch right now you're it sounds like you're gonna bring the entire package to the Arnold stage this year I might have a bodybuilding nickname of the package by the time this is all done that's what I'm bringing the total package package is my got to hear

about your load and your package it's It's just the dream right there, isn't it? So what I'm saying is get on juggernaut AI run the damn program and also while you're at it We can't leave the one missing piece of this puzzle up while you're at it heading over to macro factor use code Masanomics get those macros dialed in because I do also believe that that is a part of why things are going good is, my macros are the best they've ever been in my life. And full disclosure, we do get filthy, stinking rich when you use discount code macrofactor. Right, these are all very self-serving here.

But I'm, this is my, I actually, honest testimonial is I, if someone came to me and said, I can't get stronger, and you've been lifting a while, I, from from experience I would say juggernaut's a great spot to go and dial that food in get macro factor or at the very least start tracking your macros and the sky is the freaking limit baby you're gonna be breaking through the ceiling did you see that the Sheffield went on? I did see that it went on. I was preoccupied. I wonder which of us knows less of what went on.

Oh boy, we're probably pretty even here. I kind of know a little bit. Why don't you give me the rundown, Tanner? Or do you know anything? I know this guy is like Kiel or whatever his name is. I don't know. No, Backeland. Yeah.

He won for men. Never heard of him before this. No, Emil Krastov got second and Gustav Headland got third. The thing that's one of those would be American. No. And the thing that's not of those would be American. No. And the thing that's not exciting about the mad respect to all those people insanely strong, like that kill. I don't know.

It was a total like 1600 pounds at like a 140 bound bodyweight or something. But yeah, something like that. That is my knock against the Sheffield is the way that it works on the coefficient and the percentage thing is that all the people setting records weigh like 170 pounds or less. And it's just like, ah, these aren't the big totals for that body weight. You know, like that's not so exciting.

And I'm not trying to say that to knock anyone or take anything away from them. They all total more than me, but the way it works is big guys that total a lot. It's nearly impossible for them to do anything here Yeah, Russell or he got fourth and also that and got fifth and then hey Zeus got ninth Mm-hmm. Well because he'd have to Be the strongest power lifter of all time on that day To do anything

Ashton, Ruska got 12th In the woman side How much one girl squad one yeah, I saw that and I see I saw that Agatha or however you say her name I saw she won. What was that one? He just squatted three hundred and three thirteen kilos So that's uh, what's the kilo math on that Tommy six twenty six plus sixty three is six eighty Nine six ninety you said three thirteen. Yeah. Yeah, it's like six eighty nine Yeah, yeah, cuz I saw she was trying to make a run at being the first one who never squat 700 So I was really curious close. That's really close. God, that is a huge squat. Amanda Lawrence got fifth.

I people, if people can't see right now, which basically no one can. Tanner is just really focused hard perplexed looking through this. Well, I guess what I'm, the point I, I really struggle because I don't know if this is, this may be just 100% personal biases where the first year of this I seemed, felt like I was really interested in it. Yeah, me too.

And it seems like a big deal. But I think the bigger part for me the first year was Jesus was really making it run at the all time total. So is that the only thing that made it really that exciting then? Or do we just care about it even less than we did two years ago? Maybe maybe that's what it is, too. I don't know. And just Jess was there the first year that maybe was there.

Joey pointed that out. I mean, I care more of when there's been more podcast guests. And on this list, we've had Perk and Hey Zeus might be the only two podcast guests out of the 24 competitors or whatever. So that's kind of part of it, honestly. I honestly feel like it's less interesting, though. And also, this is just way my North American bias.

If it's not an American or even a Canadian, like I just they're kind of all the same to you. Oh, I just I don't care about European power lifters very much on it I mean fair hard to because then they go well That's the thing with power lifting is then they just go back into training and then you don't feels like you don't see them until I don't know IPF worlds or whatever Yeah Just the the show of it all looked awesome

from what I could see the backdrop and all that looked really cool. And it looked like the the crowd was pumped up and engaged and excited to be there. But I don't know, maybe at the end of the day, I'm just not a huge fan of live powerlifting. Maybe that's the problem. That's what I that's might be true. Yeah. I'm not knocking it. I don't have anything to do with it. Oh, no, it's probably I mean It's presumably still like the best powerlifting meet ever I suppose and in some ways, you know, like it's Arguably true at least that they're just always on a Saturday and every time they're on a Saturday

I have something going on and it's never been like make me stop me do what I have going on to watch them So I mean, I barely watch if like the biggest sporting events in the world are on in the weekend I probably aren't gonna like there's a chance. I won't see it. I this year probably more than ever I watched a pretty fair amount of football But the thing most football has in common is it's on all the time and it's on until 11 o'clock at night just about so you can even if you're busy you can catch it at the end of the day when Kids are going to bed things are winding down. You have a time to yourself So you can even if you're busy, you can catch it at the end of the day when

kids are going to bed, things are winding down. You have a time to yourself. Oh, yeah, I'm just not making the effort to watch it is my problem also. So, yeah, not the best representatives, not the best recap from us here. It's almost getting as bad as our Mr. Olympia. Actually, how much money did they win? I guess how much money did they win? That is a good question. It is't the 10s of 1000s I believe.

Like what is the large the total prize purse 562,000 US dollars. So that's a lot of money. It's a lot of moolah. That's a lot of greenbacks. That would be. Like, you know, 200 and some thousand two dollar bills. They paid it out of two dollar bills, which I assume they did.

You put it that way, kind of make a lot of want to make a run at this. Speaking of sports segment, though, and watching things on television, are we going to make our Super Bowl predictions this week? Or are we going to make probably should I wanted us to make I wanted us to do a college prediction and we forgot about that. Yeah. God Super Bowl. Thank God the chiefs made it. Yes. So excited that the chiefs are back in the Super Bowl. There'll be two teams besides people from Kansas City and Philly that are

the world is less excited to see than them? I don't watch many football games. I did watch. I caught most of that AFC Conference. I didn't get to see any time I get one. Any time I get interested in something, I'm like, OK, I'd really like to see the Chiefs not win. Of course, they win. Yeah. You know, like any time I sit down and I'm like, alright, I'm gonna actually watch this like I have I'm kind of rooting for

A team here. They always lose well happens every single time. That's what I've just had You know, sometimes you think why why don't the teams I ever want to see win win and there's It's a it's a flaw in me is that I always want to see I want to see the Chiefs not way Yeah, I chiefs are always the fate. I want to see the underdog and by the other dog shouldn't win So that's why I'm never happy, but I'm probably in the same boat. Honestly, that's kind of what happens. Yeah, I I've for real Actually have not watched hardly any chiefs games this year I've like seen some highlights and it seems like they're not putting people away, but they always sneak by in games.

So it's see it on the surface. It seems like this should be a game, you know. Um, God. Really don't want to, I really don't want to say Philly, but I, I want Philly to win. I don't want the chiefs to have a three P don't want Philly to win. Yeah. So do I. I'm going to say Philly to win. Yeah, so do I. I'm going to say Philly also for that reason, just because I want to will them to victory.

I like that Saquon Barkley, I like that the Giants like just dumped Saquon Barkley and then he has like the best one of the best all time of running back. Exactly. I mean, for their division rival, you know, and they go to the Super Super Bowl I think there's something funny about that oh it's absolutely hilarious it's kind of almost like the mistreatment of running back sort of where it's like I know you're a dime a dozen then it's like well but really you were the best one and the best part is that there was people that get paid a lot a lot a lot of money to make that decision too I don's like, I don't know, I think any casual could have made a better decision there, you know? Right, right. I actually don't like to drag that much

on the perennial winners, you know, like when everyone hates the Patriots, I'm like, yeah, but Tom Brady's really good. So sometimes I feel like that about the Chiefs, but at the same time I am like, but I really do not wanna see him win. It's like, I don't even really like that train of thought, but then I'm like, I also feel that way though, if I'm being honest, like I'm,

there's something about it after a while, like where I'm just sick and tired of it and you just don't want to see him win anymore. Well, and hey, the thing is, is they're probably going to win a lot more, you know? Like there's a good chance they're going to win several more. So it's like, hey, maybe take a year off. and then when you're going for like your fifth or sixth one Maybe then I'll root for you because it's so ridiculous

Yeah, like yes at a certain point where it's like, okay This is that's where got fun to raise her booty for Brady because he was so old and should so clearly be on the downswing But he actually oh my god, he's when somehow he's gonna do it again He went to another team and making it work like alright right when Patrick Mahomes is playing for the Vikings in 2035. Yeah, I'll probably be a Patrick Mahomes fan then you know. Yes. So we both are Eagles. Yeah. I think that's what they do right. They just flap their wings and make calling noises for the whole time. Yes. What do you got something to drink over there?

No, it's just plain water over here. I thought you looked poor again this week poor Not me I'm living the high life My not by drinking a high life, but by drinking of a Cola Liqueur again this week. Didn't have it last week, but I had to go back, dip into the well again this week. Yep, that looks refreshing. Wow. That is good.

Even better, huh? It's because I got this still water, so it makes you better knowing your stuff. You're disgusting tap water over there just makes this taste even better to me. Like I can just. I still can't believe there's people that don't like this. Their taste buds have been ruined. Yeah, I don't know how that's possible.

OK, what are we out here? Oh, we're gonna talk about we got a little trip trip we're taking. We're leaving on a jet plane as they say don't know when we'll be back again except for we do because we have an itinerary. Things are all true. Yes, that is correct. We are headed out west to California. We're going, going back, back to Cali, Cali. Cali?

Except I've never been there. Cali? Wait, you've actually never been, you've never been there before? I've never been to California. Oh, really? Yeah, first time. Okay, okay.

Farthest west I've been, I guess I've been to Nevada, Colorado. Yeah, you gotta get a couple states over. You gotta get at least a state over still. Yeah, I don't think I've, that might, I've never been to the Pacific Northwest either myself, so yeah, this would be the farthest west I've ever been in my life. Well, unless you go so far east that you think it's

Depends on what what angle you're looking at the globe from but right I've been to California three times three times and Every time I think yeah, this is an awesome place to go visit So I'm excited for how this trip will go do we I don't know we're not gonna run through our full itinerary yet Are we? Probably well some of it's just like, in flux a little bit. But yeah, I mean, do I know? Should we call? Should we call some of our shots though, like who we are hoping to be able to

see? Or? Yeah, we keep that stuff secret. I think we can run through. Yeah, what the initial plan is, you know, and with the caveat that all this, you never know things could fall through scheduling things come up. But the initial plan. Tanner, you want to Get us started on the first day. Yeah first we should I mean we're recording this on tuesday night. We're heading out from sioux falls on thursday morning

flying into john wayne airport in orange county, california and uh We're kind of staying in a fairly tight radius, but we're going to a lot of different places once we get there. We're going to, first stop should be with Chad Wesley Smith and Marissa Inda. I'm just, I'm not gonna say what we're doing everywhere because we'll shoot.

Yeah, yeah, we don't need to go'll shoot. That's what we're doing. We're also then, we'll leave this up in the air just as a surprise. We're hoping to hit that day one or two crew member tours, gym tours that are close in that area. We've been talking with those people. We'll leave that a little bit of a secret maybe, so we won't give away all the answers today.

The next day, we are hoping to, well, another crew member, we'll just all say this one, we're hoping to do stuff with Darko on that day. Also on that day, we're shooting for Efren mm-hmm and If possible also that night will be with CT Fletcher That's a that's a banging day right there. That's a that's a day. That's a lineup. That's a day Then oh no, they're asking is Cody now now Cody is closer to Sacramento considerably, and we're staying pretty, pretty tight.

We're not even, we're not even getting into what some people would call LA. I don't think I'm not that I know what I'm talking about when I talk about like, I know, but I know certain people in the discord talk about how enormous California is or how enormous New York is, but you'd be surprised how far it is in California from Orange County to the Bay area. Cody's listening live. how far it is in California from Orange County to the Bay Area. Cody's listening live. How far is it from Orange County to your place, Cody?

He'll be able to pump the math out on that one and a half hours. Oh, he's not by Sacramento then. No, he must be a lot. OK, I must be wrong on that. Closer than we thought. Well, we have to look at the itinerary. Maybe we should shift some numbers around it's in flux. And then Saturday, hopefully. Grant at the strength Co. He is doing he's doing some military marine work

right now. But he's actually not far away. And coincidentally, we might be able to time it up or we'll pay him a visit on Saturday before we come home. That would be really cool. So some of those, they're not 100% committed. They're like 90%, but it'll be a good trip either way. Yeah. Yeah, I thought Cody was way far north.

He's just a little bit north. Ah, I see that. Got me thinking about this whole itinerary thing again here. Yeah, we might have to stay for a couple more days. Screw it, we'll just miss the flight. Yeah, and so we do come home, we leave out of there Saturday early afternoon and get home Saturday night back to Sioux Falls, or as some might call it crew falls. Mm hmm. It'll, it will be comfortable in true Masonics fashion though and absolute whirlwind of a trip.

Yes. Yes, there's no, no time off. We don't have a single. there's no block for leisure activities. No, no. There will be no just chilling and hanging out. None of that. Yeah. All business. Lifting and drinking is normally all we know, and this time we really won't do that much of either of those. Well, we might do a little, we might find time, we'll find time for a few brewskis, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, that's the only thing we make time for.

Yeah. So that's our Cali trip. Stay tuned. Obviously, in the coming weeks and months, you'll be seeing more and more of that. Yeah. What do you think about a little supporting our supporting members? And by a little, I mean, a lot of supporting our supporting members this week. Do it. First of all, shout out to the crew. They actually used the fricking thread in Discord the way it's supposed to be used. The competitions and supporting,

what's the name of that thread actually? Competitions and littering and competitions and supporting our members, supporting our supporting members. They actually used that properly this week and listed their competitions that they performed in and things that are worthy of coming on supporting or supporting members rather than talking about

food and drinks and training and the podcast. Just spam in the thread, yeah, they used it correctly. And there was some activity in there too. There was. Yes, there was. There was. First of all, if you wanna become a supporting member, you go over to massnomics.com slash join.

That's where you can join up. That's how you make it into supporting our supporting members. That's at least the first barrier to entry. It's also how you can listen along live. Like we have live listeners right now. You get a discount code. It's the only way you get a discount code. It's the only way you get a discount code

It's the only way you can get in our discord Number of things honestly the list is too long we send out mailers a couple times a year We've got some other things in the works for supporting members, so we'd love to have you join It's probably the number way you could number one way you can support us Now us flipping the script and supporting you guys back in return. Big Jory competed in powerlifting meet this weekend down in Nebraska.

He had a 677.5 kilogram total. And I'll let you guys do the math if you wanna figure out what that is in pounds. Well, they put that one on you. Yeah. Big Dylan, he got second place at Florida strongest man and he qualified for strong man nationals very nice.

So well done. Big Dylan, big scar. Speaking of Cody, big scar was competing this weekend in a powerlifting meet. She had a three 14 squat, one 43 bench, bench 369 nice deadlift for an 832 total. Nice. And big Andrew was there competing with her also. He had all nine for nine again, all PRs, 468 squat, 276 bench, 518 deadlift, 1262 total. And big Cody was there to support both of them. And they got a pick crew picture together

I always like the crew picture. Yep really warms my heart Big Spence got fourth place at Battle of the Ozarks. He had a PR on the keg clean and press Big Bear Won the snowballs and sandbags strongman competition in his class. Big Sterling got first or no, it was his first strongman competition. He got third place in his first strongman competition. It's a podium. Robo. Got a shout out

at his board of education meeting for planning and fundraising a field trip for 50 special needs students Oh hell yeah, yeah big Robo big Dan eager He's hosting his first strongman show ever. It's salt city strongest. That's coming up at some time in the future Big Jordan finished second in open men's whea Canadian nationals been a second in open men's W H E A Canadian nationals. Big John T got second place at his local strongman show. Uh, big Tommy Schneider can be heard on this week's episode of unpaid and underrated and this one has actually been a long time coming. This is a little bit of an old shout out,

but we're finally getting to it. Big Hannah, she holds the record for Aberdeen Central Middle School, the seventh grade girls high jump record. All time highest high jump of all seventh grade girls ever go through Aberdeen still to this day. Tommy, do you have any guess what that height is that she high jump? Do you know high jump heights?

Seventh grade record. It's gotta be Oh, boy. Is it five foot? It is five foot even really ding ding. Yeah. Wow What a good guess. Yeah. Yeah, the guess is even better than her jump I'd like to congratulate myself for doing such an amazing job this week. That's impressive though five foot for a seventh grade That's what for a seventh grade. I can see why that one stood the test of time Yeah, so big Grayson and big Hannah. Two sporting members each have seventh grade Aberdeen Central standing all time records the pinnacle sport performance there. Yeah, they both peaked in seventh grade. Were you able to verify it was

my sister in law still on that list anywhere? She also is on the list. Okay. Yes, I did checkaked in seventh grade. Were you able to verify, was my sister-in-law still on that list anywhere? She also is on the list. She is still on the list, okay. Yes, I did check that this time too. So she also still holds the record. They're all pretty close to the same age. That must have been a very athletic class of people during that time. A lot of the records in seventh and eighth grade for both are between like 2000 and 2010.

Really? Yeah, there's a 10-year period there where a lot of the records exists. And so I guess you could say we used to be a proper country. We used to be a proper Reagan good. So true. And this week's episode is also brought to you by the fine folks folks over at the strength co speaking of the strength co hopefully gonna just hopefully be there in a few days if all things go according to plan. You know what? I gotta see this with my own eyes. I don't believe it. Let's go check it out. Enough talking about the strength co. Let's go. Yeah. I was talking about a I don't believe it. We're gonna go we have the Juggie. I had to go get to the bottom of this. Yeah, we got to get boots on the ground as they

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between those ones and brand new ones. That's how well they've held up to the test of time. So get some for yourself and try it out at the strength.co All right, what do we got next on the list here? Should we do the title topic or we get to that? Is it time for the topic? Should I start kicking people out or kick it? Keep them around? Hmm. that? Is it time for the topic? Should I start kicking people out or kick it? Keep them around? We could, uh, we could keep them around for what like the

preamble of the title, like where we go before we do the bubble for and then kick them out right before we actually do like the first, actually, I like it, just give them a taste, give them a him off. It's like I learned in business school. You always keep them coming back for more. Mm-hmm So one rule in business school keep them coming. Yes, so title topic time though, correct and this is particularly fitting because Well, you'll see why that's particularly fitting. Dude.

So we, here's what I'd say. We're going to get to what the title topic is, but we probably spent as much time analyzing how we approach this topic as we will actually analyze the real list. Yeah, we spent way too long debating how how what the actual formal title of the parameters And the premise of how the ranking goes But what we eventually decided is no we could do several variations of this over time We probably will so this week's version is going to be

Ranking the worst gym songs on a tier list. So if you're from all time If you're familiar, I think most people that use the internet are familiar with a tier list. So if you're familiar. Of all time. If you're familiar, I think most people that use the internet are familiar with the tier list. This tier list we're gonna be using is rankings S, A, B, C, and F. F is the worst, S is the best, and we are going to assign these, what do you wanna say, cliche gym songs, worst gyms, I mean the premises, worst gym songs, but we're gonna.

Well it's funny you say that because we talked a lot about the language of it though. Yeah, how we want to do this. Is it cliche, is it worst, are we talking overrated, overplayed, because they all mean something a little bit different actually. They all do, and those will all be words that come up in the grading and ranking of all of these and I will also

Say that this depending on what gym you go to You're definitely your Jim's gonna have different songs that plays than our gym Whether that's your commercial gym or your garage gym or wherever that's at so this one definitely has a Mastodon mix bias towards it of what songs get played at Mastodon mix because true if it doesn't get played at Mastodon mix We don't think of it as a gym song of what songs get played at Mastodon mix because true. If it doesn't get played at Mastodon mix, we don't think of it as a gym song. So these are gonna have a bit of a Mastodon mix bias,

which means they have a bit of a bias towards songs made before the year 2005. Something to keep in mind there too. There's, I have no doubt that if you go to your local CrossFit gym, they're probably playing not many of these songs, but we ain't a CrossFit gym, we're probably playing not many of these songs. But we ain't a CrossFit gym. We're massonomics.

Damn it. That's right. We used to be a proper country and that will fully be realized in this list. Back when we were proper. So there's probably a bit of nostalgia here. If you're a young pup, you might not even know some of these songs. You've been around the block a few times like us. I think you'll relate pretty heavily to what you're hearing

And if especially if you graduate high school pre 2007 I think you're gonna really really relate to this list and Some of them I'd say, you know, a lot of these are bad and Even them being bad or me thinking they suck some of them I even but I still think that some of them have a time and place like well there may be some of these that I give a F tier that I'm still like yeah but then again like maybe there's a well that's whenever we're ranking music I just be prepared to be offended because that's the very nature of music is I know firsthand I have a lot of songs that I love that people would think this is dog shit. I don't even know how you listen to this. I don't take offense to that. So you should not take offense when you, we say your favorite song is F tier and no one should listen to it.

It's all part of the game. If it's going to cause you to leave a comment on YouTube, actually, please do take offense and leave a comment. We will take that comment. Yes, we will take that comment and we will make sure to look at it and. You can take that comment and shove it up your ass. That's where you can put that comment and also put make sure to look at it and. You can take that comment and shove it up your ass. That's where you can put that comment and also put it on our YouTube video to help our YouTube.

There's two places you can stick it. Your ass and our YouTube video. Up your ass, up your ass and around the corner. And then when it's all shitty, you can put it on our YouTube channel. You ever hear someone say up your ass and around the corner? Well, I feel like when you're using and around the corner you usually say but at that point, you know

It's more of a child around the car. Yeah, I don't think a lot It's because once you add the end around the corner, it really loses its threatening nature, you know What's the corner? I it's a deep deep part. I think it's just making a point of how deep it's gonna go So deep there's a quarter That's deep okay, and The way we go through them like the way we introduced the songs We're just that's somewhat random right like it's I think so. We'll probably take turns presenting a song some of these I just wrote down an artist because I'm

Not a hundred percent sure on what song we want to go with but that'll be some of the debate is picking the song Yeah, we're not gonna try and do like the same artists for like five songs and rank all five songs Yeah, we're maybe gonna pick like the most iconic Jim song of theirs. Yeah, we're yeah, we're mostly sticking to an Artist only gets to submit one song and we say submit, we get to pick the song. So, yeah. OK. All right. Now, should we kick everyone out? Now that they have gotten the full breakdown, we will swiftly remove them. Hopefully that's clear as mud.

Do you think there's anyone listening that's like a tier list? I've never heard of this concept before. Probably, because I actually like three years ago, a lot of people would have said a tier list. What the hell is a tier list? Well, and now it's within the last 18 months. But that was three years ago, like you said. I mean, we're talking, we're in 2025 now.

But I'm just knowing how far behind the eight ball some people are on stuff, like myself included at times, that I'm like, how far but behind the eight ball some people are on stuff like myself included at times that I'm like, it's not that old that there's definitely people that are like. Actually, I think remember that episode, it's probably the last episode you did not make when flying Ryan was on with me. I believe we did a tier list on that. Did you do a tier list on that one? We did. What was it a tier list of? God, that is a good.

Oh, was it a tier list of? God, that is a good, oh, was it a tier list of bodybuilders? Oh, nicknames? May, I don't remember what, I feel like something bodybuilding related came up on that tier list. I have to go back and look at someone with Ryan, and I think we had actually, Nick at Live Large couldn't make it,

so we had, god, what was his name? Kevin. I think it was me and Ryan and Kevin did that one. What do you guys think he talked about? We had, I don't know, Ryan had a tier list though. That definitely sounds familiar to me. It was about I Got it right here the discussion Ah, yeah, we put together a bodybuilding tier list, so I think it was just bodybuilding related things Like I think he asked me about like the big pants like those striped pants. Yeah So it's just kind of like it was sort of throwback bodybuilding topics

Yes, I do remember that Okay, we're gonna jump into this. Yep. Okay, why don't you why don't you be the lead-off hitter here? Okay? I Just kind of want to go somewhat iconic Oh should we say what our our specific tears are gonna be for us because the you know We talked about that also because there are different lists. Oh, yeah I okay, I did mention it quickly in the beginning Yeah, our tears are so the best is s and then going down we have a B C and F So we have five levels some tier lists have way more but we we don't need to split the difference that much

All right. Well, I just want to come out swinging right off the bat and I want to go with bodies by drowning pool. Iconic. Absolutely iconic. Can you go to a local powerlifting meet and not hear the song maybe five times? No, no, you can not not have that. It's just on the list. It it it. It fits that. It's just on the list. It fits the genre. It's on the list.

Everyone knows the song, whether they know it or not. It's been played up 10 billion times. And I wasn't a very big fan of the song when it first came out. I'm even less of a fan of the song today. For me, this is a pretty easy F for me. Like this is, I think this is out there with the worst gym songs.

I think it's gotta be an F. I just can't, when I hear this coming on, if I'm like, dude, I need, I gotta hit that extra gear, I need to get pumped up, and he's like, I got you, Brawls. And he throws on bodies by drowning pool, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I got him to like waiting for them to wink at me

after they do that, you know, cause I just can't take that seriously anymore. I mean, yes, I would agree that's an F. Okay, well that was a pretty easy one right off the bat. Here, I'm gonna get our little list here going, Tanner. So we've got a list that a word. We got a visual list. Maybe if people.

We may decide some of this needs to move as we. Yeah. You know, because we don't wanna. And it is our game. So yeah, if we need to re-align things as time goes on. Oh, you're actually doing the album cover. There you go. Yeah.

So then you'll be able, will you be able, we need to make this so you can grab this when we're all done so you can send me a picture. Oh yeah yeah, good idea. Yep. I'll do that the post. Yep Yeah, cuz if you're doing the album cover, that's even that's even more Yeah, yeah, and maybe if people like this format will actually make it so you can see The tier list as we go but as of right now drowning pool bodies FF tear all day okay I don't think that's getting cut getting promoted out of the basement here okay I

have one well okay I'm gonna I'm gonna still I'm gonna still start all right I'm gonna go with this I'm gonna say Metallica but the song I'm going to pick from Metallica, I'm not going to say it's their biggest hit, but it's one that I've never enjoyed a ton in the gym. Well, I'll see, we'll see. Okay, I'm going to go with Sad But True by Metallica. Yeah. Sad but true. I just, for some reason, picture Larry at the gym when I hear the song.

I don't know why. That's just what I picture. Yeah. I mean, Metallica in general is a very, very played at the gym. It's very played. Everyone very played a Mastinomics gym. I would say that I'm by no means a Metallica expert. I do like Metallica.

I do like them. What is, is it just Metallica? What's the, what's the one, is it Killamall? I don't know the album titles. Killamall, that is the one that gets played the least at the gym. Very, like Jump in the Fire, Hit the Lights, Seek and Destroy, that one you played the least at the gym very like jump in the fire hit the lights Seek and destroy that when you almost never hear at the gym

Master of the puppets and justice for all those are heavily Heavily play like even ride the lightning isn't played that much but master of the puppets and justice for all get played a lot at the gym But for whatever reason Sad but true. I always just I don't know if it's because I only feel like I hear in the gym context. But sad but true sticks out at me. So is that is that a like a more sticking out gym song to you than enter Sandman? Yeah, I think enter Sandman feels like too much of a pop song to me. I know it's not a pop song, but it's just like Enter Sandman you could hear it on any radio station be like well. Yeah, it's enter Sandman Everyone knows that song you know like sad, but true feels like more of a gym scenario song to me, okay?

And I think it does still have some pump up ability to it, so I get it in a gym situation But yeah, that one's not an F in my book I don't think it is either I would not go F on that like to me that's either a B or a C probably so I could I could I could actually live with either one of those I think it is I think it's kind of a beat for me right now because I think there's gonna be enough that are worse than that okay still I was leaning towards that BC area. If you're gonna give it a little bump to be,

I'll roll with that because. Just because I just feel like there's more to come here that's just. Yep, I think so. Like Metallica is generally very played and everyone's very familiar with Metallica as metal music and stuff, but I'll be honest,

sometimes I still kinda like some Metallica. Like I don't. Oh, I do too sometimes I still kind of like some metallic like I do I still in my gym regularly when I'm working out will go to one of the albums and be like right This is playing from the beginning. I'm playing it through so I am a metallic Can really hit well Actually, we'll get to that. That's a whole separate. Okay. Okay, so we're beat here there Tanner. You take this next one. Okay We're B tier there, Tanner, you take this next one. Okay. I'm going to say,

just to mix it up a little bit here, I'm gonna say Eminem, who we both mentioned Eminem in like our preparations for this. And what song is he going with? I have a feeling what one of them might be. I have two songs and one of them is maybe maybe it is the easier choice. But to me they they either could be so it's lose yourself or till I collapse are the two that I'm like our Jim

Eminem Jim, very popular Jim Eminem songs. They are, and actually, if you're younger, you might even be like, Till I Collapse, what, like it wouldn't surprise me if younger people don't know what Till I Collapse by Eminem is. That was the one that came to mind for me was Till I Collapse, but,

okay, before I say anything I say there's also the lose yourself part of it because it's like the you know you only get one I know that's you pick because I have different opinions on both these songs so I'll let you pick the song I'm good with either one of those guys I think those are both good choices. Unless yourself unless you want to change it first unless you want to change it to Stan.

Unless yourself is unless you want to change it first unless you want to change it to Stan Let us know does your gym play stand by M&M regularly So are you saying like songs like till I collapse or Stan and stuff that like younger people wouldn't just don't follow like M&M's older stuff. I mean it's it's as Iconic as he is we're talking about rap songs from the early tooth. I mean, it's as iconic as he is. We're talking about rap songs from the early to, I mean, 25, 20-year-old rap songs. I think there's people that have gaps in their knowledge of not knowing what 20-year-old rap song is.

I told you, I went to a thing at a college about a year ago and brought up Limp Bizkit and multiple people in the room didn't know any Limp Bizkit songs. Yeah, that's insane. That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, for comparison, this would be like, you know, when we were in high school, us not knowing songs by certain 80s acts,

which I feel like I knew them pretty well, but. Right, right. You'd be like, well. But you might be like, well, that was early shit. It was 20 years ago, why would I know that? I haven't been alive that long. What about, do you think there's people that would kind of be pretty aware of Eminem, but not know my name is?

Like would that also, is that possible? Like they'd be like, I've never really heard that. I don't know, maybe, it seems crazy though, but maybe. Okay, well which one do you think we should go with? I can't really pick there, it could be either one to me till I collapse or lose yourself Do you have a preference of which which we tier list here? No, because my preference is this gonna be the one that I like more actually. So, okay. Yeah

My first was lose yourself, but the more I think about it I'm gonna say till till I collapse as the gym. So okay. I was hoping you would actually pick this one this one is Actually, I I like it more, it gets me more pumped up because the other one, Lose Yourself is in, right, it was on 8 Mile, that's the song from the movie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's got the whole movie thing to me, it felt too commercial, too, like all that, where Till I Collapse, I haven't heard that song much in the last 10 or 15 years, but I remember one of the last times in Masanomics, it was on, it was really loud, and if you're kind of like vibing to that song much in the last 10 or 15 years, but I remember one of the last times in Mastodonomics, it was on, it was really loud. And if you're kind of like vibing to that song, it does go pretty hard.

That song is good. What ruined that song for me is it was played, like I feel like five times before every football game in all of my high school. And just people were too obsessed with it. And it slapped then and it was good, but it just felt like I overplayed. I do think, though, the song's pretty good. I would lean towards that.

B tier probably on that one. Yeah, I was going to say A or B, so I'm good with B. OK, OK. I'm almost wondering though, Tanner, just because I mean, I just I just like I just like Eminem for like for the most part. So I'm almost wondering, do we need to go eight here because there might not be a lot of good ones? That's true. I think I think it's it might be eight here and we can always we can always adjust accordingly. But maybe we maybe we put it eight here because you have the I do feel like our list is going to be bottom heavy.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we'll give things the benefit of the doubt here. All right. Okay. I like that. I like that. I think we have to go into it giving most of them the benefit of the doubt just because of how bottom heavy it might end up. Yeah. All right. Okay. Next one on the list here. I am going to go with Thunderstruck by ACDC. Oh, yeah. I wrote down two ACDC songs that to me was either it's either Thunderstruck or Back in Black, but Thunderstruck probably is. I mean, let's be real, it's basically the same song. So it's all sounds the same to me classically. You know what ACDC song you didn't pick that actually, if we

wanted to rate this differently, if we want to, I could we want to put ACDC differently, we would both pick a certain ACDC song that we hold in higher regard. Highway to if we want to change this game, we could go ACDC Highway to Hell and that's S tier all day long. Maybe that's the game, though, because we'll go. Yeah, we'll go that everyone thinks thunderstruck is overplayed right like they do you know like that's everyone knows that okay? But not everyone might Credit highway to hell enough. I think that's our hotter hotter take here now, but and I didn't write down highway to hell

I'm just thinking about this as we're doing it though Okay, I'm totally cool with that alright. Should we say should we tell people why Highway to Hell gets such high regard? Yeah and I do think this is the much hotter take because people love to shit on ACDC which is which is about what we're about ready to halfway do talking about Thunderstruck. Yeah. But yeah Highway to Hell so the the the lore of Highway to Hell where it gets rated so high is You know if you're a part of Mastinomics gym When it was getting going and what what year we talking to your 2014?

you know before that even when we're all going to the Y together just trying to get pumped up and You didn't know much about lifting but you knew about a little place called Jackal's gym with Brad Gillingham And you knew from watching their videos and from saying attention their stuff that went highway to hell came on It was like big lift time PR city getting after it and that was inspiring for us and those guys I that like that was where that came from and Yeah, that's why highway to hell holds a special spot for me Yep Like I was actually still work like when I hear it still. I played it that day.

I played it at Jekyll's Gym. I played it that day at the, when I had my RP 10 squat day like a month ago at Massonomics and I don't listen to it often but when I do, I know it's pump up time and that's highway to hell. Yep. Okay, it's my turn to pick something. So you put that in the S tier. Our first S tier. Okay.

There's a couple here where I'm gonna we talked about where it's gonna be hard to pick a particular song Do we want to get into those yet? Are we saving those or just like I feel like it's something that has to be on the list But I just can't think of a song. Yeah We got a lot here just go through them. I don't care and I want to do five finger death punch Oh, and it could be any song because I don't even really know I don't know any of their songs I guess is what I've never taken the effort because I don't like that style of what they do. So I don't I Just say I don't know they're all f- do. So I don't I just say I don't know. They're all F tier to me. They're all F to me.

I'm like kind of think that they're F tier also. It's where I would probably put it. I just think, you know, that's someone that likes that music more. Oh, there's a lot of people that do not like music. I don't know if you actually kind of like that kind of music. You probably actually there's other artists that you like a lot better than them, though, even, too. So I don't know. I don't know. I've just never been into that that genre of.

Yeah, I'm just trying to think of how to even put it into words, why they never stuck out to me. I don't know. Is there any justification for them to go above F tier? No, I don't have any. I've never in my life once typed in on Spotify five finger death punch. I was actually gonna put them on, I didn't even put them on this list

because I'm like in my notes, because I'm like, I've never even sought, looked for a song from them. So I can't even grade them because I've just, they've so off my radar, but so default then that that means they're f-tier the only songs of theirs that are stick out to me are covers that they've done actually where I Think they have one like this house of the rising Sun that I sort of like but then I'm like well I actually like the original better or whatever you consider the original. Oh, oh

I didn't realize they do the cover of Bad Company. I didn't know that was- That's what I was gonna say, Bad Company, that would be another one. You know? Yeah, I think it's F tier, honestly. Like I think that that's fair. No, that's just, it sounds like if you said

describe generic modern day metal music, and I know they're not modern, I don't know what are they,, 15 years old, but that that is the sound to me of just generic modern metal. Yep. Okay. That was a good pick. That was a good pick.

Um, let's do this. Let's do, let's do the song. Oh, I gotta Adam. Oh no, I did Adam. Okay. Let's do this one. Tanner next up alive by pod. Oh, I didn add them. Oh, no, I did add them. OK, let's do this one, Tanner. Next up, Alive by P.O.D. Oh, I didn't have that on the list, but that's a good

have that on your bingo card, did you? Yeah. Yeah. Feel so alive. And I didn't pick the song about the school shooting. I picked Alive. Um, the youth of the nation, youth of the nation youth the nation was not yeah, I went with alive. Well, what about boom though, too? That's another another pretty pretty pretty good, but I think alive's probably a good choice

It's probably 50-50 between they're on the same album. I think too aren't they I guess they all are was it really I don't know I think they probably all are I don't know Was it really I don't know. I think they probably all are I don't know Yeah, that's not particularly good boom alive and use of the nation no wonder pod was so big They came out with three of those at the same time. Yeah, that is quite the album Interestingly that those are all all on the same Mmm don't love it, but It's not f-tier to me because I don't think it's after yeah, I think to me that's uh, I Don't love it, but I for some reason as I'm thinking I that feels about like a B or a C to me really see I would Put this one towards C. This is not on the quality of music level of music as sad but true

True and I think that's a good was over played, but I don't think the staying power of alive is So I'm good with I think C tier on there Yep, that's good All right next one I am going to pick. I'm going to pick DMX. Oh, because I just want a more I want to see more variety, you know, like I don't want to. I don't want all of our send up being pod five finger death punch.

You know, and I think DMX has some good all of our send up being POD, five finger death punch. And I think DMX has some good gym music actually. And it's something that does pop up historically in Masanomics gym from time to time. Interestingly enough, there's like a good mix of DMX going on. What song, I don't know, I could be swayed. I'm like up in here, I guess is kind of the one, but I'm like, I don't know if that's really the gym song or I'm just looking at what song is gonna give it to you. Yeah, Roughriders anthem

I know Roughriders anthem gets played a little bit at the gym, too I Don't if I think of massonomics I Roughriders anthem might get played the most out of all of those yeah, I Could I could see going Roughriders anthem on this one, okay? I Kind of like DMX a little bit in some ways like I Don't let you know That's not really that's not s-tier stuff to me, but I think it's like a or b

Oh, I think we look at a lot of people in this list. He has more staying power than most of them I could I could easily see Roughriders anthem being a three or sorry an a a three. Okay. He tear All right, so he's in there with Eminem so far in the eight year All right, I like it. I like it. Okay. Next, I'm going to go with another one. Maybe, maybe polarizing for you here, Tanner. Let's do Walk by Pantera. All right. I did also write down Walk by Pantera.

Or even in agreement on the song. Cause it could have been Cowboys from Hell. I think it's got, I think that, to me I only wrote down Walk because, just because that's, it's gotta be very played a lot. I've heard Walk by Pantera a lot at the gym over the years. Yeah, I mean to be clear, we've heard all of these songs, I mean thousands of times at Mass In Amics team over the years

Pantera does get played a lot. I should say what feels like you have heard that one a lot as time has gone on yeah, and To be fair Pantera isn't my you know, I'm I'm not a metalhead like a lot of people are So I don't want to discount it just because of that reason I Get pretty sick of that though like and I don't like that many of their other songs all that much But that's just my preference thing So I'm trying not to I don't know like that's like a beer a sea to me I was kind of leaning towards sea on this one. Yeah, I would be I'm more than happy putting that a Pantera walk and see there's gonna be Pantera fans that

probably don't like that. But hey, this is our tier list. Yeah. That's right. It goes. I am in agreement with you on that. I can still I can still rock out to some Pantera get pumped up for him. But I, they're like a C tier for me. I wonder if it's time we stopped beating around the bush and just, uh, let me see if I got the right button here.

And I think we have to do disturbed and I think it has to be down with the sickness though. Oh, yeah. Wow. I'm In my head. I'm like we already did it. That's how but drowning pool bodies and down with sickness are like the same song to me They're like the same thing. He had disturbed down with the sickness. I think is I mean, it's our I Mean it's it's it's s here all day are sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's F here all day like no one It's the exact same thing as bodies Why drowning pool is like if you need to get pumped up and someone turn that on I'm like, you know, there's no way they're being serious right now

Like I could for sure get more pumped up to damn near I mean you put on doja cat I get more pumped up the doja cat that I would The only the biggest redeeming quality of down with the sickness to me at this point Is it becoming like that song specifically becoming a running joke on the podcast? But I'm like, yeah, you know like that. It's funny to me in that way. But yeah, I think I would say on this one everything we said about drowning pool bodies you could basically just echo that across to Down with the sickness there. I mean, there's just like the same thing basically Yeah

well, uh Yeah drowning pool bodies if I really had to get to the particular I think is still worse But I think they're both in the same tier Yeah Drowning pool bodies might be the worst thing that we cover particular I think is still worse but I think they're both in the same tier yeah drowning pool bodies might be the worst thing that we cover okay okay all right let's do um let's do last resort by Papa Roach, but that's good. I don't hate that. That's old enough.

I remember watching this music video. Oh yeah. When I was in probably like third or fourth grade. Cause it's cool because actually the music video is cool. Cause like this fisheye lens and they're on the stage and the whole crowds around them. And they were watching this and being like, that is is so crazy and then riding my bike to baseball practice Like shortly after that and hearing people talk about Papa Roach. I might be have to be honest. I don't know if

Papa Roach last resort comes on Go for some go for that song in comparison to some of these I'm like I can go for some go for that song in comparison to some of these choices Well, let that be said though. I'm not a big pop roach fan though is At all, I actually don't know if I don't like songs by them outside of that. I Don't think they're F tier but You may be sound like you're gonna be maybe more generous towards them than I was going to be I would probably put them in That be be really okay You go be there if you really want to you could they're not a beat here for me though

But I could I could be sway else do we have in C right now C is he only Pantera and Papa Roach That's fine. If we have to move someone up to be though That's my first choice to move on okay, cuz we have if B gets really empty I would like to see Papa Roach go up to be okay okay Tanner has put in a vote for Papa Roach all right we we will we will keep that in mind as time goes on here okay let's do Lincoln Park because we haven't the hard part is the song. This is where I really like a park. I think maybe it's crawling or Possibly numb. I mean it could be like 15 different songs if I'm really thinking about it, but those are

crawling is uh I Should just like look up songs to damn Come to my head there. I just look it on Spotify Num has over two billion plays. Yeah, that is crazy It's not in the end in the end is not the is no no no Somewhere I belong I could actually see that somewhat too, but I still Think I mean also it's an album thing like to me hybrid theory is the better choice than meteora a meteora song But I could see I guess either those it has to be off of one of those two albums

I think yes, and you're not saying stuff. It's like you're not saying one step closer either I Feel like that one doesn't get played much at the gym. Right. What were you two in Numb and what? Crawling. I mean Numb's probably the more popular song I guess. Yeah I think it is too. I mean based on Spotify numbers here it is. I could go with Numb. I could go with Numb. I feel like that one gets played a massonomic slot. Okay

Where do you want them to go I'm kind of leaning towards the seat here on numb Yeah, I like them at a B also I Yeah, I like them at a B also. I like them actually a little better than pop than pop a road. Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. I because I do like Lincoln Park. I just don't necessarily like, you know, say numb as one of the only two songs of them that I hear at the gym. Right? Yeah. Yeah, there's there's Lincoln Park songs that I would put in a and maybe even s-tier, right? No, I can live with num at B. That's fine with me. Okay. All right, okay Next we're going to go

I'm just trying to decide what one I want to pick here. Let's go corn, but the question with corn is what song do we go with? Yeah. I don't feel like corn gets played. Coming on done, it comes on a lot. You are right, that song probably's played more than any corn song Yeah, which is kind of a weird one to get played a lot when you have options like freak on a leash and yeah the life Coming on done

Do you want to go coming on done? I'm fine with that. I mean I could really honestly freak on a leash coming on done I could really honestly freak on a leash coming on done Got the life got the life actually comes up gets played quite a bit falling away for me that gets played quite a bit Too all these corn songs do get played a lot at the gym I don't know why coming on does something coming on done sticks out in my mind Yeah Because that was like maybe one of my like not so favorite corn songs and maybe that's why it sticks out to me is getting played so much Because like got the life is probably my favorite corn song I love I

think got the life is awesome so it's a transistor comes on at the gym a lot to actually it's that album another weird corn song like that's hey y'all hi y'all twisted trans that 2005 album see you on the other side that Not the follow the leader or what? 1999 is that 99 is 98 is follow the leader 99 is issues that that album is on a bit too, but I Still kind of think coming on done is the choice for us. Well, okay

We'll go coming done done because that just seems like the odd one. I'm This is a this as far as corn goes this is not a highly rated one for me I'm probably again in that I'm probably again lean towards C tier here, but I'm open to what you think Probably again lean towards C tier here, but I'm open to what you think Yeah, the last three in a row that we've had there where I think it's more of a B and you think it's more of a C Maybe bias too much of the whole there like I don't think about just the one song enough to where I'm like I just I think about corn and I'm like, well, I just kind of like some corn though, too Well, I like corn and there's a lot of but that's my thing is there's a lot of corn songs. I would rank above this That's why I have a hard time putting it see him at a B or a C. Yeah, okay

We're gonna like we can park above them though. So yeah, we're gonna see for now. They're definitely not F to me even no No, it's not F and if we don't have an F song I don't think and if we had a D tier I could see some of these maybe C's Yeah, maybe one or two of them going down to D. I mean POD is definitely worse to me than the POD song is definitely worse to me than the corn song See, but that's in my mind where POD what I say alive and twisted transistor by corn feel or actually we're not doing Transistor we're doing coming undone. Those feel similar to me in a way like,

ah, this was the one you had to pick. You say got the life, I'm going at least A all day on corn, for doing got the life. Your turn. Okay. Oh, let's, I just kinda wanna throw some, Okay, oh Let's I Just kind of want to throw some Me there's a couple of these here. Maybe you'll decide it doesn't even belong on the list

So I've got a couple that you could say that does not belong on the list because I just wanted to throw out a couple So far is it's very heavily skewed towards songs that came up between like 97 in 2002 That's very heavily skewed towards songs that came up between like 97 in 2002 You might okay you might say this one doesn't belong in the list, but I feel like I I It comes up in a lot of things and it's Jim sung adjacent Sometimes I definitely hear it at the gym sometimes but mr. Brightside by the killers See to me this hardly even fits in. And to me, on the record, I do enjoy Mr. Brightside by the Killers.

I think it's a good song. It's actually getting super popular again, it feels like, these last few years. And it's like a real anthem that people like to just belt and sing out. Yes. It could make sense in the gym. It's popped up on one of my playlists before,

and I usually when it pops up like no Not the right time for this. So that's why I want you know, it is like very at sporting events They play it all the time. Do but that's a different it's more like a slightly different. It's more like a world like same thing zombie nation So let's take the killers off. And then my B choice to that same thing, we'll decide if this belongs on or not. I'm gonna say Blink 182, all the small things, or you can pick a different song,

but like that definitely comes on the gym, comes on at the gym sometimes. I like that way more as a gym option. I love Blink 182. They, when I was younger, like a kid, they were my favorite band for many, many years. I don't have a problem with them as a gym song. They're not like high on my list of gym songs.

So for that reason, they're probably like C-ish tier. Would you say all the small things? Yeah. But I could also see that B, did I say C? Sorry, I meant middle. I went middle of the list. I wanna go B on that is what I want. That's what, that works for me.

They were just in my additional list of slightly different, not all just like Yeah, new met like metal variation Okay, all right. Yeah, we'll go all the small things. We'll go we'll go beat here on all the small things here Okay Next up on the list gonna Okay. Next up on the list,

gonna, I like how your mix it up was to take us right back to like 99. I'm actually saying a killer year. You said the killers first. Yeah, true, true. But then we went right back to 99. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm back. I'm also gonna take us back to a little time called the late 90s, early 2000s,

and that's can't stop by the red hot chili peppers. Oh Red hot chili peppers. I didn't have them on the list They get played in the gym That is not a great song You know what song I like it is of the red hot chili peppers. I just like well there again I like their older album stuff too. So that's kind of the, what album is that? The album is Can't Stop. Okay.

And what year did that come out? I think it's 99, this says 2000. Oh, sorry, from their album, By The Way. Sorry, not Can't Stop. Albums, By The Way, year 2002. I actually like the red. I we've both been to Red Hot Chili Peppers. But it was constant like the last year.

Yeah. But I actually don't know what would be a better Jim song of theirs. I just I don't know. Typically think of them as Jim songs for that all that often because. Of the songs, but that is really the best Jim song is that their most popular song Let's see what Spotify says. It's got to be top five for them. I didn't know that I guess it's just cuz it's not my you know, it's just not in the tops for me Can't stop is on Spotify

1.4 billion plays songs. songs add more under the bridge has more Californication has more Now scar tissues down just a little bit scar tissue only has a billion plays Yeah Okay, well, I think that's their best gym. So I just think a lot of their songs I like better aren't aren't aren't Jim song No, no, yeah, a lot of their songs are not Jim songs. I Mean I was me personally I was gonna go s-tier on this one

But it sounds like you're pulling the weight down a little bit. So I don't know how far I would I would I would I would I would conside to a okay. I can live with that Yeah, I'm saying man you crank can't stop all the way let that intro build up you're ready to go after that and maybe I'll take it and maybe if we don't end up with maybe we're gonna have to decide that if we end up with like no s here maybe some a's are gonna have to get moved yes well we still got a lot here a lot of time left people buckle in this could take hours all right one that I feel like we've

Beated beaten around long enough and not nobody's brought up that I keep thinking you're going to his limp biscuit and it's either Rolling or break stuff and I just don't know which song to pick Well, I would have different opinions on these so I could go either way I think those are the two quintessential options there I Feel like maybe break stuff is the better gym, the more gym gyms. I'm not gonna, I'm gonna stop saying better.

I feel like maybe Break Stuff is the more gym gym song. I think it's the better gym song, it actually by every metric. I can't, in my mind, Rolling gets played a lot on those damn iPods at the gym. I feel like Rollin' is on a lot. It definitely does. at the gym. I feel like Roland is on yeah a lot definitely does but Break stuff is a song I like more so I'm still letting you pick what when you were gonna go with here Let's do break stuff cuz I still think it's more of a gym

So I do think Roland gets played a lot But if I which is more of a gym song I feel like it's break stuff What Roland's probably the more popular song again? I don't know that matters. Yeah, I don't think Roland's is as good of a song though. I don't think it is. Maybe commercially that song was probably more successful. But to me, the quintessential is behind blue eyes. God, no, no, please God. Don't let it happen to me. I hate that one I've to me breaks up as s-tier Jim music. That's that's I Mean it's I'm good with that. It's just punch in the face get you get you amped up. It's good stuff. It's it's great Well, that was an easy one, okay

Next up on the list system of a down Tanner Okay Next up on the list system of a down Tanner Everybody's coming to the pot and with system of a down It's what song do you pick because this could go a lot of ways? Kind of torn between chop suey or BYO be Both of those come on at the gym a lot. They both do. I don't it's probably 50-50. Toxicity does too.

Actually many of these songs do. Sugar, Ariel. Actually Ariel's gets played a surprising amount as well. What ones did you say? Did you say Chop Suey? I was really torn between Chop. We be yob yob I I just that album art from the Toxicity album is just it's pretty iconic that one does have be yob on Spotify has 650 million plays where chop Suey has

1.5 billion plays So chop suey is much more popular as far as plays go. Maybe we should go with chop suey Okay, I Struggle a little bit. I'm being honest when I say this that when we say everything sounds the same to me I have like when I think think about these songs in my mind I'm like wait a second. What song is that that I'm thinking of? Well, I'm like I can't separate the song. I think it's because the songs just play, you know, they just play through you're never like actually looking at The name and picking them because I do the same thing with with system without all the time thinking chop suey and BYOB are the same Song when they are vastly different very very different

But song when they are vastly different, very, very different. Right, right, right. Um, but, uh, chop Suey, God, that's like, I think that's a tier I feel pretty comfortable saying a tier on that one. I'm good with that. And man, when you were in again, cause we're talking like the 99 early two thousands here, um, when you were in again because we're talking like the 99 early 2000s here when you're in like middle school or whatever it was and you're listening to chop suey and The chorus goes into the part where he screams angels deserves to die. I feel like you're on some real satanic shit All right I got another something a little different again, but this artist does come on has come up on mass dynamics gym a lot over the years.

And I'm going to say Kanye West and either either power or stronger would be like two songs that I definitely would be much played at the gym. Maybe it's partly because of their names. Also, as I was thinking about it, I'm like, oddly synonymous names of songs. Yeah, they actually really are. And the fact that they both kind of work as gym songs too. You know, that one of them wasn't... Stronger's always a really funny one to me

that comes out in Masastinomics gym. I Don't know why and it's very much of that time. It's it's a good song I like that song a lot, you know, he samples Daft Punk, which I thought was the craziest thing ever at the time For me personally if we're picking between the two I like power as a gym song way more than I like stronger as a gym song But I don't know if that sways what way we're gonna gonna pick the music here Well, it doesn't really change it for me because I don't really like any Kanye West at all I So the car was something about Kanye West rapping that I'm like, I don't like it Kanye West was like my favorite until

Like just the last couple years when he just totally just dropped off whatever the hell he was doing But up until I mean my my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. I'm like, this is the pinnacle music doesn't get any better This is this is the best thing ever If we're going power I give I personally would get power at eight here like that one Like that one's super high on my list. I could still listen to that one before Big Lift today. Stronger is more like, yeah, I'm not getting super pumped up, but like it's a B or a C tier song for me. Do you think it, but is that because you don't think

it's a gym song then though? It's not like a pump up song for me. That's why I always thought it was funny when it played at Mastodonimics Gym. That song's like, yeah, there definitely are people that would get pumped up to that song It just felt like way more of a pop song to me Yeah, I don't know if it's cuz people just straight up the name of the song. They're like, ah stronger I mean that could totally be it. Yeah

Like that seems like an odd thing, but maybe that's part because I just feel like it comes on a lot Okay. Well, let's go stronger and I'd go., I mean what do you want to go C tier on that? You probably want to go even worse than that. No, no, no, I was gonna say it's definitely not, yeah, I mean I was saying I don't like it, but I don't despise his music or anything like that. Like it's either probably C or B to me. What do we have more of so far?

But then when I look at C tier, I'm like Stronger's a way better song than a live by pod That's fine with me, too. Yeah, I could see it being there. I could that when I That one's a very in-betweener. I could see coming back on that. But alright, let's do Let's mix this up really change it up here. We're gonna really change it up. We're gonna go crazy bitch by black cherry. Anyone that's listened to the Mastodonics podcast for any period of time knows that that to me absolutely belongs in the app. Do we have anything lower than f I didn't even write down crazy bitch because I'm not giving I would it wasn't going

to give that the time of day of even making, I don't even want that to get recognized as a list and like increase the chance of anyone playing that song ever anywhere. Hey, y'all are crazy. That's, I mean, I know I've said it a thousand times over the years, but like, do you think that belongs anywhere other than F? No, no. Like do you think that belongs anywhere the other than F? Like I mean if the list is like greatest songs that aren't good and it maybe would be an s-tier The Hall of Fame of not good songs that would go up on there I Mean I pretty infamously do not like crazy bitch and I'm 100% there with you Like I'm not going out of my way to go to a Buck Cherry concert, you know?

Yeah So that's an F-tier that song gets played at the gym though occasionally don't often. Yeah, not on my watch But there is Buck Cherry on those iPods. So it does happen Unfortunately, I suppose there is I Still don't know with what I said earlier though if if that's worse than bodies by drowning pool or not Yeah, that's debatable what's this other song by them sorry what song is this oh Yeah, okay Yeah, I said to listen to it. It's all coming back to me

It's unfortunately Okay Do you think What about Green Day brain stew? on the list That one does like my question is just as a belong on I the list Let's either see I think Brainsuit is a great. I think it belongs on the Brainsuit and let's say they're long view are the two green day songs that I feel like get played the most

at Mastronomics Gym. Yeah, I think I think Brainsuit is good and underrated as a gym song. Oh, I actually I 100% agree with you. I think it is very underrated and it goes hard. Um, I don't know that if it's quite s tier or not. But I think I don't to me it's no lower than a I am I am right there with you. And actually now that you say it, I'm sort of shocked. I've never put this on a playlist of mine. For the gym students

do in particular is a great gym song I think out of Green Day songs. Yes, I am 100% there with you. Brain Stew, we're gonna go A tier on that. Unless you want it to be S tier. It's borderline to me, but I just don't know if I can quite give it the S tier or not. I'm not sure.

I mean, we can revisit at the very end. We'll revisit Green Day. That was a good pick. Okay, okay. I got another one for you here. I did not know, there's some people in the gym that really like this song so it could be offensive I did not know what the name of this I actually had to call Ryan today to ask him What are some Mastinomics gym songs? I get oh, yeah

Yeah, this was the very first song he said I said bad gym songs This was the very first song he said. And I'm like, I've never heard that song in my life. He's like, you're joking. And I'm like, no, I've never heard that. He goes, you've heard the song a million times. And, uh, and I'm like, nah, I typed it in and I'm like, no, I've, I don't even think that's the title of it.

He goes, that is the title. The song. Can I, is it something about stripper or something? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. What the title. The song. Is it something about stripper or something? Yes, yes, yes, yes. What the hell is that song? Yes.

Oh, I just could tell what you're talking. I'm getting confused. I'm thinking like I'm in love with a stripper. That's not the song. No, that is not the song. It's like, ah, you're gonna have to tell me. I know what I just. Pornstar dancing. Pornstar dancing, yes. like, you're gonna have to tell me I know what I just born star.

I said porn star. I hit play on that. Okay. I know Ryan would say that my darkest days Chad Kroger and Zach Wilde. And I said, he said porn star dancing. He said that's the worst song that plays in the gym. I've never heard that song before. He goes, you've heard it 1000 times like I I'm like, I've never in my life heard that. He goes, just type it in. And I type it in. Ah, see.

And I'm like, oh my God, I have heard this song a thousand times and never once in my brain did I even think for a second, I gotta know who sings this song. I never once thought that. So I, it's just all these years, I've just blacked it out. I've never even known. And now I know, Pornstar Dancing,

that's, that is that song. And I think that's an F tier. I've never even known and now I know porn star dancing. That's That is that song and I think that's an F tier. Yeah, I'm good at F. That's a Guess I didn't write down any Nickelback song. Should we have a Nickelback song? I mean I put them on the list We probably got to say them at some point Okay, I just didn't know if that covers it That's adjacent enough. Well, you know, Chad Kroger is apparently on the song. Yeah. But if we're talking, I mean, this let's be real, this this list, we haven't said outside of Highway to Hell, we haven't had a set of song

made before, like ninety five. So we're kind of are just sticking to a certain genre here. When was porn star dancing? That's not that old, I don't think maybe I'm actually wrong But I thought I figured that's like 2010 at the oldest Pornstar dancing Wow release September 21st 2010 Ha nailed it. Yeah, and he says he doesn't like the song for me saying it's not that old. It's a

For me saying it's not that old, it's a 15 year old song. 15 year old song. Alright, do you got a Nickelback song then? I actually have to look, I wasn't thinking about Nickelback, but that reminded me. This is how you remind me. Just like that. Well, that's not a Jim Song though. The song it would be is, yeah. I'll give it credit, Rockstar is a great song all day long not a gym song though. No, no, no animals

I'm not how you remind me Yeah, that's not photograph, of course. I Don't know. Is it burn it to the ground? Is that like a gym song? I that's why that way to go back for as funny as it is and stuff like that I like doesn't eat I don't really think of it that much to the two Nickelback Jim songs to me would be burn it to the ground or animals Yeah Maybe it's animals. Maybe that's what's coming. It comes on at the gym all the time and

As much shit as Nickelback got I can see why people they're just like these big rock anthems so I can see why people Attached to that song it just at the time felt like it was just such a meme you know it was it was just this whole other thing I don't know looking back on it's not going to be on my gym playlist I can see why people like it you know it's hot it's it's high energy it's up tempo like all the music just sounds huge. Right. With that being said though, it's probably a C tier for me. Got my license back.

Start a, oh yeah, about their dad walking in on the car, whatever. And you're shifting all my gears, oh please, the keys. Oh yeah, we can't quite place the keys. Oh, please Place the lyrics I can almost like I just like have to just send my makeup all the words and I could So you just kind of sort of just yell the song the words and they just kind of come out And you like say it to a certain rhythm you're like, yeah, I think that's right I don't even know if you're saying words or not Ain't nothing wrong with it yeah yeah no whatever gonna quit

just acting like we're animals okay so that's the song I just want to yell what did you say to me it's like a C tier song I don't think it's F I could I could understand the argument for F and not that long ago everyone I don't think it's F but I don't think it's F no I don't't think it's F. No, I don't want it in F. I will defend it out of F. I, I do not want that song in F. It does not belong next to Buck Cherry. You know what?

That song actually fits in pretty good with, um, with POD Papa Roach. And, uh, why can't I ever remember the name of the corn song we picked? Coming on done. See that's how forgettable name of the corn song we picked coming on done? See, that's how forgettable that corn song is to me is coming undone So did you put nickel back on there or you were dropping them in as we speak? See to ya nickel back animals All right, we're gonna go so All right, we're going to go. So we are going to go with another all time.

Masanomics gym classic, and that is Ramstein. Do host. I think that's the one you got to go with. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like to host overplayed as it might be. I still like it it's like It's like an a to me if it's like an a to me

I feel like do I I could see that I could see the argument for an a in my head I was thinking beat here for sure all right I'm gonna know like I'm saying like minimum beat here like it doesn't belong in C. Maybe it is B though I don't know let me look at the other ones What Metallica song did we put in there? Sad actually like I like all the beat here songs. I mean, I guess it is comparable to the beach here songs If I'm looking at we've got blink 182 Lincoln Park Metallica

What's the one right next to? What's the second? What's that one that one with the little cartoon yeah stronger Kanye West oh yeah okay I'm good with that I can see B or a I'm maybe edge that one towards a little bit that gets more rotation on my gym playlist than any of them on that beat here right there yeah we'll go we'll go a there. Okay. All right All right, oh is it do you got it? All right. Wait. Oh, I said Ramsey now. It's your turn. Go ahead I got one classic one right here a wall nation sale Needs to be on the list. It does need to be on the list. It does need to be on the list Please Keith we're gonna we need to cover a wall nation sale. I

remember like drunkenly just this is just kind of an obnoxious song in a certain way. It's like drunkenly just so so screaming over and over again. I think I feel like parents in a Mastinomics video from back then, doesn't it? It does from like 2015. Was it the state fair video or something? Or to me, that's a C. Yeah, that's a it's not an F tier. It's not F. I think C is actually a great spot for that one right next to animals It belongs right next to animals. Yeah. Yep. That's that's a good choice. I like that. Oh Boy next on the list I

Gotta go Lil Wayne and What song and the question is is what song I? Myself lean towards a milli Yeah, I can see that actually that that's right. That's where I lean towards on that one I there are Lil Wayne songs that I think are better pump up songs, right? Maybe even a better gym song, but a Millie's pretty damn good. That's probably that is Lil Wayne at his peak And it does play at Massonomics gym Well to me that's better. That's better than Kanye West like oh, I'm really a Millie is better than stronger

So yeah, I guess it doesn't my default. It's an a because it's not an s-tier song, but it is damn good. Yeah Alright we'll go a tear also music video Pretty damn awesome go watch that fancy that one This one I think will probably not even put them on the list because we already kind of did this with five finger Death punch but another one that would be worth noting that you could almost split the cell Way with five finger death punch. I think is avenged seven full I I had the exact same thing here cuz I didn't even know what to write from I don't know the names of their songs they they I Just had a feeling that was I was hoping that's who you were gonna say

Because that's exactly how I would describe that too. And while we're on the topic, can we also just like plump in like two other ones right there? I'm just gonna write these because I think they're all gonna be like F tier. We're gonna say Avenged Sevenfold, Skillet, and while we're at it, can we say Hollywood Undead too? Oh.

Oh. Oh. I got, let me look here. I think, first of all, I think Avenged sevenfold and five finger death punch are both worse than Hollywood undead and skillet. I'm not saying like it's a significant gap, but I think that those two are both worse Skillet

Monster by skillet my three-year-old for whatever reason like Loves monster by skillet, which is the oddest thing and I don't like she came across it on her Like I don't even know where this came from. Okay, I have to somehow likes monster by skillet I think it was on like a kid's movie or something recently I gotta look up that's where it came because they follow there's that whole genre of whatever you call those bands that don't don't register my brain so I have to just hear I know for a fact I've heard the song a thousand times but here we go okay monster see oh okay monster See, oh, okay. Monster my skill. That is like that is such a

Masonomics gym song through and through. Okay. Yeah. Um, I can see why people get pumped up to that song. 100% Ken. I just didn't like I don't know if I really even want to put those on the list though Same with Hollywood on dead I'm like, I don't know what song you would have What was Hollywood it is just undead isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, like that's the one where they just start by screaming undead. I Mean, that's I'm pretty sure I've seen Hollywood on day were in Aberdeen They were in every day that one year when they played in the park right by Mastinomics gym

Actually, I got just absolutely bombed before it and bear like a whole walk tomenate at the subway on You know because it's like in that central park and there's that subway on 6th Avenue there What what I left way early because I had been Drinking way too much way too early and got a sub at that subway Here I was also at that concert I believe I stuck the whole thing through and then went to the zoo afterwards so Okay Yeah, that still is Hollywood and dad's kind of f-tier to me like it's not as good as it's not as good as corn or a wall

They oh god. No, it's not as good as corn Specifically and I'm giving Hollywood and dead the endowed of going with their best song here, which I think is undead Yeah, I'm good with them being in there. Okay. Okay. See and that's how people might get confused when they're like Oh Hollywood and dead is only one rank worse than corn It's like I'm taking my least favorite corn song against the best Hollywood undead song, and they still beat me. So what's the one, is that skillet down there that we didn't rank or who is that?

Oh, that thing right there? Yeah. That's Ramstein. I got the better picture from up there. Oh, okay. Ramstein, okay. So we're not gonna rank skillet. We did it with Hollywood undead.

Oh, Avenged Sevenfold was the other one. But what's the- Avenged Sevenfold, I think that that splits us so with Five Finger Death Punch. We did it with Hollywood undead and Oh avenge sevenfold was the other one, but what's the old? I think that that splits us so five finger death punch avenge sevenfold. What was the one? I think it's afterlife. Let me just hear this dude Guitar hero made me love the song afterlife by avenge sevenfold, but Looking back I don't like that song that much.

Just, I just clicked on it right now and that's the first time I've heard that song in like 10 years, maybe more. I don't belong here. Yeah, yeah. Cause I'm fine with them being F-tier, that does not bother me one bit. Can I also tell you who also fits in this genre? I don't think we need to put them in here, but since we're on the topic of just bands at all

from that era blend in to me, Three Days Grace and Three Days Grace had the most hits out of all of these guys. But yeah, they fit in that same thing. Actually, can I say someone else that fits in that genre that doesn't make any sense to me? Three Days Grace, the animal I have become. else that fits in that genre that doesn't make any sense grace the animal I have become let's start a riot that's the whole thing that doesn't that doesn't work for me it doesn't do it for me yeah yeah yeah definitely uh and do you like how all these riots I think is like f-tier honestly like if we're gonna if we are for the sake of ranking it I think like a riot three days grace would be like C or F, you know? I hate everything about you.

Now that's another animal I have become. Some people probably like that music. Oh, some people like, I can guarantee you, the Midwest people love that music. I just didn't like that music. It just, again, felt like that generic metal rock thing at the time. So we won't even put them on the list

But the other one that I was gonna say that my brain never has registered and I know it plays on massnomics Jim all the time breaking Benjamin Yeah, I don't I wouldn't I don't like those Not another topic though, what even is their popular song here the diary of Jane. I know No, I do not like that song at all that would be F tier if we put it on the list I mean, I just said it after it's on but How about bring me to life by evanescence That's always a fun in one when that comes on in the gym. That's wake me up inside, I can't wake up.

And then it's always I just can't not think of The Office when what's his name? Yeah, that song's like a kind of like a joke to me. It's not even that I don't necessarily dislike it that much. It's kind of like a silly joke almost. That's what it feels like. It's kind of like a silly joke almost That's what it feels like that song feels yeah, like a joke, but it's not I don't Hate it like, you know, it doesn't it's honestly not enough to me even though it's like comically almost could be in that territory If I was gonna go for if I was lifting and try to do anything serious and you put that song on intentionally

I'd be like, yeah, you're messing with me me right now you totally like it because I'd kind of laugh even like if someone put on five finger death punch I'd be like or like down with the truth I would seriously agree I would pick bring me to life by evidence over those other ones but it's getting like a like a we don't have a D tier that would be firmly in the D yeah if we did yeah I could see that, there is one pretty big band that we have not mentioned yet and they really do belong on this list somewhere Do you know who that is No rage against the machine Oh Mmm

That is definitely one that comes up a lot, isn't it it mm-hmm and there you have to decide well What what what one goes on this list? Killian the name of seems like a parade and Bulls on parade or gorilla radio all seem like Yeah Killing in the name of these now in the fire is also it comes up quite a bit Yeah, it does actually that one is on The playlist quite a bit testify. I think it's played a decent amount to Bulls on parade I could make a case for it being bulls on parade

Just cuz I feel like it comes. Yeah bulls on parade might be the most I mean, there's a lot of these songs when I hear them now I just think of Mastinomics Gym and that is one that I just because I don't play that song in my gym very often. That one, I think we go to Bulls on Parade. Okay. Oh, I know I have to start to look at this list that we already made all the things up for to see where it fits in that

and I have heard the rage against the machine songs a lot at Masonomics Gym and it brings it down for me if I'm being honest where I'm like You know, they just have lost So much luster and I'm like, I don't know. Is that a C or C That's where we're different here because I don't listen to rage against the machine very often at all And when I do like oh god, these songs are just bangers. Like they go so hard and they got so much energy. That's why I could make the case for an easy me, an easy A for Bulls on Parade. But it's because I never listened to them. I know if I was in... I do think though that song is way

more just staying power and novelty. What about a B then? I could I could I could accept to be there for sure. Okay, I'm gonna be All right Well that actually kind of made me just think of another Artist that we haven't brought or another band that we haven't brought up then would be slipknot. Oh that actually does really belong on this list and I think It's psychosocial is very popular, but I wonder if it's a duality or before I forget or wait and bleed

I'll just tell you I think I've mentioned this in the podcast not like earlier this year Even if we did this list a year ago ago basically any slipknot song would have been They're not F, but they all would have been like C tier for me I've had a change of character in the last year and Pretty much any slipknot song you're saying is gonna be like a tear at least for me So it doesn't really matter what you pick I would I Could potentially be swayed to s-tier depending on the song though It's about also they're from Iowa. I know plus just down the road

Okay, which one is I push my fingers and that's duality isn't it It's not dual that wait and bleed. No, I don't know that no wait bleeds different. Okay, I push my It's a little tricky for me on them to wait and bleed is one where they scream wait and bleed during the course Because when I got into lift like when I was deployed overseas and was got I had like slit all these slipknot songs on my iPod and I listened like on an I remember you saying that is I thought I can't even do it anymore where I'm like I've heard them all so much But I mean if I try to remove myself from that I do think like duality is a really good like

That's pretty intense for lifting. I agree and it holds up so good even today. It feels heavier than Yeah, like any of this stuff, but somehow they also this is my thing I don't have a problem with heavy music heavier than like any of this stuff, but somehow they also, this is my thing. I don't have a problem with heavy music, but a lot of it loses its catchiness. Somehow they have heavy music and they still make it like catchy, which I think is where it really takes some skill.

There's something about psychosocial that I particularly don't like as well. If we did that, I'd have to knock it down low, but duality I think goes quite a bit higher. I agree, psychosocial would be one of the lowest ones on that list to me. Yeah, I Would feel very comfortable with duality being an eight here I'm good with that. God. This eight here is really filling up

Yeah, I'm just wondering if something has to bump from well part of the problem is the worst songs that we could think of We didn't even put on the list because like no after a while. Yeah, we got so we don't have any more room for more more of these shit songs Well, we got so we don't have any more room for more more of these shit songs The other one of them Ryan said that the band doesn't mean anything to me and I know I've heard this name a thousand Times I could not name a single song by him is Alexis on fire Yeah, and I don't know I'm just looking oh I'm just looking oh

Yeah, this this could be anywhere in the world yeah that one God, there's not that the songs don't have that many plays though They definitely did not get the popularity bump that somebody's I don't feel like that that pops up that much Yeah, no, they don't get they don't belong on the list. They're not big enough What else do we got? Oh, here's one thing. I don't know if we need to put these guys on the list because to me this is like a one hit wonder. But headstrong by trapped. Yes. I do think that is very much a one hit wonder and like that might be so massonomics gym specific. I'm not even sure if like, it has other people experience that but it has almost a half million

plays so it is getting played played But headstrong is very much just a headstrong. I'll take on anyone Yeah, that's right to me that one's right, but that would be a D tier all day for me if we had D But the fact that we don't really really borders line on that C and F Maybe we don't maybe this doesn't go on the list. But since we mentioned Keith's a wall nation sale We'd almost have to mention Joey's da rude sandstorm The rude sandstorm, but I don't know that's on the way. Yeah, I feel like that doesn't fit the genre We've maybe inadvertently because that's I never get this never been played a massonomics gym like ever no Like I mean maybe maybe intentionally to be funny

But it was it's never like just sitting on one of those iPods waiting So it just doesn't even fit it doesn't fit right now Because we are picking songs that are pretty heavy in the massonomics gym rotation. Yeah I'm just looking on Spotify. That's kind of my list. I think so far so yeah That's I looked I typed in the new metal playlist and we pretty much got all the artists of Note here that are at least worth mentioning. I mean, there's some other people in here, but like alien ant farm As much as I love the song movies by alien ant farm. That's not really a mass. I'm just Jim song Annie Are you okay?

It's with criminal. Okay, Annie Yeah, that one doesn't get played a ton of mass. I'm just Jim. No Yeah, that one doesn't get played a ton of massonomics Jim. No Well, is that the full list I think so I think we just need to see if it requires any fine-tuning We only have two in s-tier. I will say my way to hell the only two that I don't have on here We had two left on my list that we've not said. Yeah, what do you decide? Can you do anything with the first one fifty cent? on my list that we've not said yet. What do you decide when you do anything with the first one? 50 cent.

That is pretty massonomic Jim heavy, actually, too. It is. It is. Actually, while we're on that topic, you know who I actually I'm going to OK, there are two there are two that are massonomic Jim heavy. The first one is 50 cent. But what's on any man by 50 cents cents is a gym song to me actually yeah

Do you think that one gets played the most out of all of his songs? I? Kind of think in the gym it is for some reason probably that's many men. Okay, where do you want to put many men man? Which death the poor me? Yeah, where do you think that gets put? I already think where do you want to put that? Mmm Which death the pulmy yeah, where do you think that gets put? Where do you think where do you want to put that? Um I'm like a b on mini on mini men 50 cent probably i'm fine with that I can live with that in the middle now. There's one opinion to switch. There is one that that um Really is a massonomics time machine and that is still tipping Oh

The beauty of Still Tippin' Still Tippin' on Faux Faux's. The beauty of- I don't know if that actually belongs on the list because I do think that that's very mass synonymous, Jim. But it's a good, that is a good song though. Oh, I love, I like Mike Jones. The beauty of Still Tippin' is that when you click on it,

it's like the only song in that artist category. So if someone clicks on it, it just plays indefinitely One of the last times I was there not this last time but probably six months ago I remember someone goes it's still tipping been playing for like 45 minutes. You're like, yes. Yes it has I mean I Probably not fair to put still tip in an S tier but but like to me, like it's one of the, like it's like an A for me. To me it's an easy A tier. It's an easy A tier.

All right, here's one more that I just thought of that I'm not gonna be asked. Still tipping is great. It is. I don't think a lot of people would consider it on the list even. Mike Jones, Slim Thug, Paul Wall, I mean, it just doesn't get any better than that.

It's great stuff. Here's another one that gets played a lot at Massanomics Gym, and I don't think it's intentional. It's more accidental, but the name of the song is My Own Horse Enemy by Lit. Oh, Lit, is that? Who played at the Brown County Fair this year? Please tell me why.

Was it Lit that played at the Brown County Fair? They did, lit. Is that? Who played at the Brown County Fair this year? Please tell me why. Was it lit that played at the Brown County Fair? They did. Yep. I don't really think that that one has gone lit either, but if I... That one would be a C tier for me. It's not the worst at F, but it's just a funny, masonomic song. It feels like it's played way too much. I think it's like their only goodomic song. Yeah way too much I Think it's like their only good song isn't it too um Why did I think they had one more let me see

Now you got me curious my own I like their top two songs on Spotify are both my own worst enemy right? Yeah, that pretty much is it yeah Yeah. The songs drop off heavily after that. Yeah. OK. I'm glad we added Mike Jones. Yeah. The only other one I had was rising. What about? Well, I just had something and I forgot it. Oh, Dr. Dre

There's a decent amount of chronic that comes on. Yeah, is there a song or not? I'm just that's just uh The next episode the next episode I mean I I really like Forgot about Dre forgot about Dre. Yeah, I don't know if one of those gets played more. I don't know. I Also, just like dr. Dre so I'm yeah, those are those will be pretty easy a tier for me Yeah Like the next episode the next episode comes on a lot like ice I hear a variety of people play like the next episode but that's in there Oh Yeah, that makes that makes yeah, that makes the cut.

That makes the cut on. Right, especially this really just needs to be the 1996 to 2005. Let's be real, this playlist, this list consists almost entirely of songs from about 98 to 2002. It's actually a really narrow band. Well, I don't know if we realize this band It's just like a few years Whether we realize it or not we did pick

Masanomics Jim songs and those iPods are of that time sort of so It does it is funny that Yeah, I think doctorate we agreed a tear on that one though, didn't we I Mean is the newest song on this whole list Lil Wayne maybe And that's like 2007 oh we did we said a well nation or porn star dancing was 2010. Oh, what about a well nation sale? That would be the oh, yeah, and then there's Hollywood and dead. They're a little newer Yeah, they might be like 2007 or eight. Oh, that would be the, oh yeah. And then there's Hollywood and dad, they're a little newer.

Yeah. They might be like 2007 or eight though. That's not that new. You're all that song's probably almost 20 years old. That we said that. Yeah, it is. This does heavily skewed towards the early 2000. Hey, that's what you get at Mastinomics gym. That's just

the way it is. Well, and also some of the just like newer songs don't have enough rotation to even like or Mass Appeal to like I have a lot of songs I could play, but I'm like, I know a lot of people are like, what the fuck is this? What? I'm not going to bother people with it. Almost like every artist in every song we mentioned is someone that people will have an opinion on.

They won't be like, what is that? Right, like I could say, oh, one of my favorite go-to songs is I'll Feel the Rage by Trippie Red. And 95% of people listening to this podcast be like, like, oh, what? Cool, don't know what you just said. You know, like stuff like that.

Or yeah, a song by 100 Gecs. People be like, yep, Dan, don't know what you're said, you know, like stuff like that or, yeah, a song by 100 Gecs. People would be like, yep, Dan, don't know what you're talking about. So yeah, we're going with the Mass Appeal gym songs. Okay, here, well, and we're gonna talk about more about this. This episode's getting long, but I was just in Minneapolis this weekend. My friends brought up something to me.

They go, we're in like kind of a party bar, this party bar, this bar called Sneaky Beats in Minneapolis, downtown Minneapolis. Old Sneaky Pete. Old Sneaky Pete's, people are in there dancing, going crazy, they got girls on the bar pouring shots in people's mouths, you know, there's stripper poles in the dance floor, people are having a great time.

And it's wild and it's fun. You know, we honestly might be some of the oldest people in there at 35, you know, everyone in there super young. And all of the songs they're playing are from like 95 to 2010 ish. Like every song fits in there. For the most part though, my friends are like, these are the songs they played when we went to the zoo because they were like relatively new at that time, you know, or when we first started going to the zoo in the early 2012 right in there.

And they're like, we also went to a Vikings game in Florida. Did they play Jacksonville or maybe Miami last year? I don't know when, whenever they went to Vikings game in Florida. They're like, we go to this bar and they also played these songs. And like the conversation is why don't bars like this play any new songs? Like they might mix in like one, I don't know, some random ass new song from like Bruno Mars or something like newer. Or maybe, I don't know, just something newer like that. But for the most part, they're sticking to like Nicki Minaj and just shit like that from like 2010.

And I don't know what that is, if it's just because everyone knows those songs and people don't know new songs as much, or if those songs just had the party vibe better or what it is, but when it comes to gym music, something about the late 90s, early 2000s had it going on. Yeah, there is something about that. It is interesting that that's what they're playing then too.

Or, you know, something newer, this doesn't need to go on the list, but of newer songs, like I mentioned the other day, there's some Kendrick Lamar songs that I really like. Yeah. Like I do hear people play like not like us at the gym quite a bit.

Do they actually? I do. I've heard I've heard a number of people play like that song. See, that's actually where I heard that enough times. And I'm like, wait, I really like this song. You know, I like the song. Yeah. There's a few like that probably.

And I would 100% agree. And that's like A-S tier gym music for me. But I'm just not sure if that has the song. Yeah. There's a few like that probably. And I would 100% agree. And that's like A-S tier Jim music for me. But I'm just not sure if that has the crossover appeal. No, I don't think it's. No, I don't think so. I mean, I think that emphasizes why the choices are in the time period that we are. Because some of them get to be almost too obscure,

even if they're wildly popular today. It's just not wildly popular amongst enough people over a big enough period of time. Yes. Yes. Yes Yeah, like for me oh I just Like Kendrick Lamar mad city. There was like a year stretch where no big big lift mad city's going on by Kendrick Lamar Like this is as good as it gets but yeah I don't think it has enough crossover appeal for enough people to yeah, like you're saying right relate to okay So do we move anything is there only gonna be two s-tier songs? Well, it's eight years very full it's our fullest group and s-tier is our smallest group

All right, we're gonna go out on limb here slipknot. I want I'd let I would vote to move slipknot to S-tier I don't know if you would like that again. Was it we said duality I could go with s-tier on that and I could also go with s-tier on still tipping I mean to me it kind of is I'm just not sure football actually What about next episode is that the song we picked like I feel like that's a good song, too You know, that's we picked. Yes. We did pick the next episode. God That nest your gym song or does brains to I could make the argument that brains to is maybe better than I Love brains do so I could and I also I'll go brains to also

I'm an M is not far off of s2 or either if I'm just like starting to move songs up the ladder I'm like I I I think I think I'm an okay far let's do this let's start the bottom F tier we're good with everything in F tier right there's no we just let's just run them down one more okay F here we got drowning pool five finger dead punch disturbed buck cherryest Days, Hollywood Undead, and Avenged Sevenfold. Those are all F tier, right? Yes. Okay, C tier?

F is set. F is set. Unless anything from C needs to move down. I don't think it does. Like, these songs all clearly feel like a tier above. Alive by P.O.D., Walk by Pantera, Last Resort, Papa Roach, Not Twisted Transistor. what the hell we had done coming undone God My brain cannot remember that song coming into my corn animals by Nickelback and sail by a wall nation I'll just all feel like C tier songs to me they

POD Nickelback and a wall nation are all easily they're almost D really mm-hmm three sort of in the middle I like those three a little better than the other three, but they might still all be see where Pantera walk pop a roach and coming on done Like corn is tricky to me just because they're pretty good. Well, what's tricky for me is you picked one of my least favorite corn songs I mean, like I said you pick got the life. I'm moving that to an eight year right now. That's where I struggle with that is I just don't like coming to Don.

But a lot of these A and B, C and B ones do feel pretty interchangeable because then we're talking sad, but true Lincoln park, numb, all the small things. Why blink one 82 stronger by Kanye West bulls on parade. Is that what we we said Bulls on parade. Yeah. Yeah, and many men by 50 cent That's fine. That is fine. I could yeah. Yeah, that's fine Cuz you could make a case I could make a case for some of those being a I could do bull I mean, but it's like like Bulls on parade, but like some of these you're like now I've heard that too many times same thing sad, but true. I'm like, you know, I feel like that just I've heard that song 10 billion times in the gym, right? Eminem we got to like collapse DMX. What did we say? Oh Rough Riders anthem can't stop red hot chili peppers

This is a tear. I'm talking here. Yeah system of a down What song what chop suey chop suey up do Haas by Ramstein a Millie Lil Wayne still tip in Mike Jones next episode dr. Dre is is Do host I Could see that as a or b to me yeah Yeah, I could go either way on that one. I don't know if I feel strong enough to move it.

I'm just in my mind, I'm like, that feels slightly more like a B, but I can see it as an A. Okay, we'll leave it there. Then S tier, we have Highway to Hell, ACDC, Break Stuff, Limp Bizkit, Duality, Slipknot, and Brain Stew, Green Day. I feel pretty good about those.

Those would be songs. Anything from the S and Brain Stew, Green Day. I feel pretty good about those. Those would be songs. Anything from the S and A tier, I'd be like, oh, great, great choices, great choices. Even B tier, I don't have a problem with. I would just be more moody about some of those songs. Right, and this is also two people having to collaborate to come up with a tier. You know, like, if you just did this by yourself,

you might, without me saying like, no, no, that one really sucks, it has to be lower, like, you might put some higher yourself, like, this is harder to do. Yeah, there's a little, yeah, there is a little compromise on some of these. Right. Yeah, if I was totally alone, Red Hot Chili Peppers is probably going S tier.

Yeah. Yeah, there'd be a little shuffling, but I can I can very I can very much live with this where we landed here. Yeah. I think that's good. So now what we need everyone to do, of course go in the comment section. No one's gonna there won't be a single person listening that will agree with anything we said. There won't be one person that won't be at least mine at the very least minorly offended by half. And remember, we're not outside of the worst of the worst. We're

not judging people on their entire catalog. We're judging on one specific song here. There. That's what we tried to do. This sad but true by Metallica. That's a B tier song for me. There's a lot of Metallica songs that would straight up be S tier. Yeah. Like, damn near half of Kill'em All is an S tier song for me. Or, but, ACDC, if we didn't do Highway to Hell,

we'd move them farther down the left. You do Thunderstruck, best case scenario is a C for me on Thunderstruck. Yeah. It might even be an F. I don't need to hear that song again. But, I can't put him with that F crew. Yeah, just, just, I don't want him to be song again, but I can't put him with that Merch all the way down to the likes of buck cherry

It does feel insulting when you put it that way I Don't want him. I don't want him hanging out with that group down there in the bottom So if you're gonna put these if you're gonna comment, which I hope you do make sure you're objective about this take your own Take your own Bi Yeah, take your own Biases out of here be objective on what you got Yeah, yeah, and let us know what songs we didn't even include That we should have a make sure it fits in that timeline of like 97 to 2004 though Or make sure it was made between 1999 and 2001 or make sure it was made between 1999 and 2001. Actually, there's probably a lot of songs on this list that actually fit in that two-year window.

Yes. Hey, man, the world is a lot more raw then. That's back when the bodies used to hit the floor. What year did that song come out? I don't know. That song has to be right in there. Is it like 2000? This says 2001.

99? Okay, yeah. It's all just the same. Yeah, okay. All right, that's our list. We're sticking to it. It's the best list that's ever been made. Nobody else could be correct.

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I his power bars. Do we want to talk about anything else this episode? I can say one more thing. I was just in the cities. I went to a- Yeah, T-Wolves and a wild game. I went to a T-Wolves and wild game. It's the biggest blowout I've ever seen in my life, my history of watching. Actually, not the biggest blowout.

It's the biggest blowout that involved the Minnesota sports team win that I've ever seen in my life. The T-Wolves beat the Nuggets by like 30 points and it was never a game at any point Did you see Anthony Edwards already has set the record for the most three points made by a Timber Wolf player? Did he passed cat right? Yes, he passed cat like yeah, right, right and well, how long has he been on the team like four years? Yeah Maybe already five or something.

He's already the leader. Maybe there's only four. And the one they made it on was sweet because it's like towards the end of the game it was just about garbage time and he was on the logo and just threw up a three and it went in and people were going crazy. Did he know?

I don't think he did. And then after it was like maybe 10 seconds afterwards then they announced it on the thing and then everyone was going crazy. Yeah. But that was pretty cool. What was more fun, the basketball game or the or the hockey game? The basketball game was more fun, but it's because I like basketball more.

I'm not right. Like I respect hockey and it's cool and everything, but I just I don't. It's not a huge hockey fan. You know, I don't have no clue where any of the teams are at in the standings or anything like that. So after going to two games back to back by the end of the second one, were you tired or were you not tired? Because I feel like I'd probably be tired.

So I'd say with this with the trip, it's eight guys, a lot of us have not. I'm always tired. Some of my really good friends, some of them I see somewhat regularly, some of them I haven't seen like in years actually. And so we got there Friday night and we're just all amped and we drank heavily Friday night heavily Followed that up Saturday by drinking even more

I think we were up till like after three o'clock on Friday night, which I Couldn't even tell you the last time was up that late. It was it was a late one and So it meant Saturday was off to a pretty slow start it took us a long time to get going I remember thinking the day before like what are we gonna do Saturday morning the game doesn't start till two it's like oh we're gonna sleep it took like everything we could to make it to the game like on time just about because by the time we got breakfast and then got to the game it was damn near time to start but um you go to the Timberlake game it's fun and exciting and then you get in a lift you know you drive 20 minutes across town or you go to the Timberlose game, it's fun and exciting. And then you get in a Lyft,

you drive 20 minutes across town or you go to St. Paul, and then you go to the Wilde game and you sit down again. And the Wilde Stadium, I mean, the stadium is newer, but the Target Center has been recently renovated. And I don't know if part of that was redoing the seats or if it's just this is how the Stadium is but it was noticeable that the seat room and legroom was like a couple inches less at at the excel energy center for the for the wild game and

By the time you were done it sort of felt like you had been on a plane all day long Yeah, these tight kind of uncomfortable. I mean actually uncomfortable seats for like Yeah from basically two o'clock until nine o'clock at night day long, these tight kind of uncomfortable, I mean, actually uncomfortable seats for like, from basically two o'clock until nine o'clock at night. So everyone was sort of cramped like halfway through the wild game, like guys were just getting up and like getting the beers at the far, the spot away to walk a little bit. Just to walk around. Yeah.

The wild game was cool because they did make it a game like right at the end, like there was like, I think there was four, maybe five goals in the third period. It was just like, turned into the shootout. But the wild ended up losing, they ended up losing by one. I think they were down by three at one point. So they made a pretty good comeback. People were getting excited, but just wasn't quite there. It was still a lot of fun.

It's been a long time since I went to a hockey game. It's very different how they run a hockey game versus an NBA game with the sideshow that is the NBA game, you know Yeah, just the fact but but you can't at a hockey and have people running out on the ice and doing activities cuz they're on ice Right like that Like I feel like this is the most cliche thing. It's like what's the NBA halftime entertainment? It's the guy that balances shit on his chin. Like of course, that's the halftime show like that just feels like the most Show but it was pretty funny and the guy that balances shit on his chin. Like, of course, that's the halftime show. Like, that just feels like the most NBA halftime show ever. Yeah, that is the halftime show.

But it was pretty funny. And yeah, overall, though, it was a lot of fun. I did have one observation of the whole thing that I thought was interesting. Let me ask you, Tanner, when you go to a busy year and all, you know, like like you picture the scenario you're at a sports game, the line to get to the urinals, you know, there's guys just going in and out of there.

It's busy, you're lined up. I have a feeling of who I think you are in this scenario, but answer this question for me. Do you ever spark up conversations with the guys around you when you're at the urinal? No. Do you ever spark up conversations with the guys around you when you're at the urinal? No, I prefer there's What I would say is for some reason there's always someone doing it. They're either there's two guys There's either the guys that just are actually just looking to start a conversation. Yes, I would never or there's a guy

That's like I'm the comedian. I gotta get a joke on everyone And both of them I'm like, like, I would prefer to everyone, everyone in there just to do it in silence and get in and get out and get on with it. If you're with your buddies and you're already talking, yeah, continue talking to your buddies. I don't get is that the silence hour? Right. But I don't need to like spark up conversations with a stranger at the urinal. And I also I'm like, that's not the time to be the run your stand comedy bit about how

expensive the beers are. Like what's going on here guys? Okay. Like, yeah. All right. What else do we need to find out your material? Yeah. And also, yeah, your materials, the beers are expensive. Like we all haven't probably talked about that 30 times since we met here. And there's different vibes too. Cause like when I go to local sporting events, well, you actually know like every... Yes, you know the people. You're not striking up a conversation with a random. Right, right. It's like, we wouldn't talk to each other in the concourse halls.

Why are we gonna do it here? Well, because we're in here. Because we're both, because urine is coming out of both of our dicks, we have to talk to each other. Yeah, so I usually just don't acknowledge that, and then someone else tends to acknowledge it. Yeah, there's always comedian. I think you're right about that though. Someone like that's like, yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna spice up this room. I'm gonna make this fun

Yeah, you know what this group of a hundred guys needs we need some jokes in here And yeah, of course the guy was like right next to me but that's not a fresh bit You gotta be pretty funny to actually be funny. Oh, to actually pull that off. Yeah. Not like say something you've heard a thousand times. Like, oh, yes. Biggest waste. Start peeing like, oh, that's just a waste of thirteen dollars. You don't really buy them.

You just rent them. I guess they're right after all. It's so stupid. I'm laughing about it because of how dumb it is, but these people are clearly doing it to be serious. They're not doing it in an ironic way. They're trying to be funny. That was one of my big takeaways there. Here's one I think is interesting.

I won't get into the nitty gritty of this because there's so many people that have so many strong feelings on what you can and can't do during the national anthem But one thing not to get too political I mean this one actually is very political for people if you're gonna go down that road and we're not gonna go there but one thing that is always weird to me is When someone's actually singing the national anthem and people feel the need to sing also like there's nothing wrong with that, but anthem and people feel the need to sing also. Like there's nothing wrong with that. But it feels like to me, the point is the person's there to sing. You're there to just listen to it and take it in. Right. You know, that's a weird one to me. And the guy was like a great, it's like

this guy's this great national anthem singer. It's like, Oh, you got the real, real kind of want to listen. It's like kind of a performance. Yeah. He's got this real strong voice. And then I get it. You're like showing your pride for America. But I'm like, Oh, you guys are all kind of a performance. Yeah, he's got this real strong voice. And then I get it. You're like showing your pride for America. But I'm like, you guys are all kind of, knowing that was with us, but like other people around, you're all just kind of like drunk and sort of singing it. I was going to say, usually when that happens, it's a bunch of drunk people.

That's what it is. It's like, oh, we're all kind of singing in our way. That's like, just. Because I was at, I hate winter this weekend. And that happened because all the drunk college kids start. Yeah. And I think maybe that's where people is. It's just a feel good thing they wanna get involved,

but I'm like, ah, actually this guy's singing really good and you're kind of ruining it right now, at least from my vantage point. But that was- I would never be singing it, but I don't sing. No, I wouldn't. Every time I'm in a scenario where you might be expected to sing along with things, I don't do that.

I typically don't. Yeah, I at the most I might get is a lip sync. Yeah. Otherwise, yeah, Saturday was much slower, a little lower key as far as the alcohol consumption went than Friday. Just it's tough to do two days back to back, you know, and then also I start looking ahead. I'm like, oh god We're going on a trip to California. That means I have to do all three of my lifting days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

Well, I can't be hung over Monday and have a good like a double hangover That's not gonna that's not gonna work. So then I did have to rain it back in a little bit which worked totally fine Yeah All right There was something else I was gonna say about the peeing in urinals, but I forgot it. Oh, do you think the breaking the seal thing is a thing? That's a good question. Do you believe in breaking the seal?

You hold the seal and it's never a problem, but once you break the seal, then you have to go to the bathroom all the time. You know that's the thing people say, right? That is. You're like, oh, I'm not gonna break the seal. I feel like that's more of a thing people say when you're younger. Yeah. God, practice, I don't think it's a thing.

You actually have me very curious. I don't think it's a thing, it just seems like, no, your body's gonna make pee whether you would go pee or not. I don't think it's a real thing. What's the say? Breaking the sea out, it says it's an urban myth I knew it. There's no physiological basis for this it says you know So go ahead and break that seal that seal it don't matter

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