Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 47: Men in Tights

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

This week, the guys talk about the rules and guidelines when it comes to man-tights. Wearing dude-tights in the gym is a dangerous game, and we're here to help you figure out how to rock your tights w...ithout getting your ass kicked, and why you definitely want to make sure you've got ample crotch-room. As always, you can watch this episode in full color video... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below.. Make sure you LIKE the Massenomics Facebook page... If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2016... Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Starting point is 00:00:00 M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. This episode we want to make sure we breathe as loudly as possible into the microphone.
Starting point is 00:00:37 We make a lot of old man noises. Good to go there? I think so. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Massanomics podcast. We're here in the dungeon again, this fine February afternoon. It is pretty fine for a February, too. It's fine for February in South Dakota, that's for sure. We don't have, we got some stuff on the agenda today, nothing that's going to probably change your fucking world unless you like us talking about nonsense.
Starting point is 00:01:10 In which case, get ready to have your fucking world rocked. But this week I did notice off of Chad Wesley Smith's podcast, which is the Jug Life podcast. They had done, I think they ran it, it wasn't through JTS. It was through the podcast. I think their podcast has a website now. Yeah, I listen to the podcast. And Chad, if you need any help with your audio.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Terrible. God damn it, man. This is terrible. I'm telling you, you guys have the resources. All of this doesn't cost any fucking money. This is as cheap as you can go this is a 500 fucking podcast and they have like sponsors paying yes and it's i swear it's chad on his fucking speakerphone just press and record on his phone and they just sit in a room and talk
Starting point is 00:01:58 so i guess we've uh probably got that on them for now i guess the production quality it actually makes it a little when you're used to listening to high quality ones it makes it a little hard to listen to yeah but we're not here to shit on chad wesley smith's just his podcast achievements but uh they did a this week's episode they did was a it was like i don't know what the actual premise of the episode or was it all based around that list? Yeah, that was the, that was, that's the title of the episode. They did like the 10 greatest strength achievements of all time. Yep. And we're not going to recap all of them.
Starting point is 00:02:33 How many Masonomics guys made that list? I think nine. I think we had nine. Nine out of the 10? Nine honorable mentions. Yeah. Unmentioned honorable mentions. But yeah, so we've got, like, we've done quite a few a handful of like
Starting point is 00:02:48 lists related articles and stuff and every time we do that we get bombarded with nonsense where it's like oh geez you guys totally fucked up how did you not remember this one thing or this one obscure fucking guy that did this one thing. And, uh, that wasn't in a meet or publicized anywhere. Yeah. This guy had this one Instagram lift that was huge. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:03:13 fortunately with juggernauts, 300,000 fucking followers on, on Facebook, they got, uh, they got their fair share of shit too. So yeah, people really like lists and they like to share them,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but they also like to just rip them apart. Yeah, I don't get it. Like if you make any list, people are going to complain about it. Yeah, for sure. We had one. I don't think we mentioned it in our greatest, strongest moments of 2016, but we had somebody, and not to shit on the achievement, but we had somebody come in and was like,
Starting point is 00:03:44 well, geez, I can't believe you didn't have so-and-so's bench press from the paralympics i was like i'm gonna be honest with you it's not even on my fucking radar and not only that i'm not gonna probably put that on top of anything else that's on that list so what the fuck you know but thanks for your input yeah probably no thanks yeah but uh but yeah so i i suppose i mean we usually ask for a little bit of feedback but i certainly can't deal with anyone being upset yeah and it's all the type of feedback you get makes a difference too like we get a lot of helpful stuff that's like oh yeah that you know that yeah and we and we've had people that have have helped us with it
Starting point is 00:04:25 that then end up helping us with some of our own things too, which is great. The ladies at TIFPL helped us with, gave us some feedback after the first one we did. So then when we did a second round, they kind of helped point us in the right direction, which is good. But they didn't come in just shitting on us.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You guys are dumb. All this shit's, you know. But anyway, apparently nobody's immune to it. So what were some of the 10? Number 10 I know is Zydrunas Savickas 500-pound overhead log press. Let me see if I can find it here. It should be the most ever pressed overhead, I i think i don't think anyone's done more than that i love how we're just going to use our podcast to fully recap everything that he did on
Starting point is 00:05:12 their podcast yeah but ours will sound a lot better yeah but is what's the most anyone's jerked over their head before um i don't know that's a good question because it's it's over 500 though isn't it yes yeah i think somebody's yeah because something on the list was like the heaviest attempted clean and jerk or something where it was i think it was less than 600 but it was i think i can't remember the number all right well i'm not going to find anything through their website that's going to spell that out here. But let's go through heaviest jerk of all time, and his name is Tyler. Let's see, we've got a 270 kilo. So that's got to be close to 600, isn't it? I don't know, that's like 1,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:06:04 594. 594 594 nobody has been film jerking over 270 but they found three on film what oh three at 270 okay usually what happens is someone will come up and they'll go for i think there's been a couple people that'll they'll hit like the super heavies they'll come and they'll hit like a high five but they know they don't have that 600 pounds in the tank at all yeah but they'll for their last attempt they'll put it on the bar and just i don't know it's kind of it kind of pisses me off when you see it because they just come and they'll grab it and they'll just you know deadlift it fast and do a pull and be like oh shucks but um there's not a lot of actual attempts at 600. Their number eight on the list is Leonid Taranenko,
Starting point is 00:06:53 a 586-pound clean and jerk. And they have that number eight. That's pretty commendable. That's a good way to put it. Those people are always hook gripping when they do that, right? Yeah. that's what so that's a good way to put it there those people are always hook gripping when they do that right yeah yeah we were talking about that is the sheer force on your thumbs on a hook grip of a regular deadlift is a 586 pound deadlift would be a lot but there's a little more speed on this yeah that's the thing is with speed and then and then what happens when you get to that like full extension too you know we're like where things really snap fast i don't know but truthfully i never notice and i don't i don't clean and jerk
Starting point is 00:07:31 five or six hundred pounds or anything but the heavier it gets i never feel it on my thumbs ever oh that is crazy it's just all in my back and legs you know i've never but i have i also have giant fucking hands i was thinking about this when came down here that people watching the podcast on youtube just think that we drink out of regular size cups and that we're normal size people these are actually the fucking biggest cups i think you can buy this is like a half gallon cup here yeah they're up there i'm super cheap so we anytime i go to a movie theater that has them or i go to to a baseball stadium, we snag all of them. Cups for a year.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah. This morning we had, oh, big news, I guess. Tanner's aware of this. Tommy's not. Tanner and I's wives were hanging out last night. Ooh, I feel like there was maybe some scheming going on here. So when we regrouped this morning, Tanner and I went to the gym. scheming going on so when we regrouped this morning tanner and i went to the gym apparently both of us immediately started quizzing our wives so what were you talking about
Starting point is 00:08:31 how much did you two complain about us um and apparently it was a lot probably yeah that's what it sounds like was it all like smell related or was there it's probably both i think that was was one of the largest topics of conversation. But I decided maybe it's a good thing like if they could just complain to each other about things. Like it'll hit their quota of complaining about things. And it'll just free up some time for it. Yeah, they won't have to complain to us. They could just like.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That is a win. I saw this. There's this new. I don't know if it's brand new but on on facebook it's called the the overheard press and they've done it's basically just satire but it's kind of like crossfit related but they had a deal that i had to share this week that was it was like married or crossfit couple inevitably leads to divorce when husband is coaching the wife oh Ah, yeah. And we actually, I have that trouble with Megan all the time because we'll go to the gym just on a day like today
Starting point is 00:09:31 where we're not really, today's just kind of a fuck around day to get moving and do a little bit of tinkering. And they'll be, well, what should I do? What should I do? What should I do? And I'll tell her and she won't like it. Then I'm fucking in trouble. Or if we'll actually be working on something and I'll be trying to help her when she's't like it, then I'm fucking in trouble. Or if we'll actually be working on something
Starting point is 00:09:45 and I'll be trying to help her when she's asking for help, it immediately escalates to where it's like the fucking end of the world really fast. And it's probably my fault because I don't have as much patience for her as if I was coaching somebody else, but I'll be like, we'll do this. And then the next time she'll do it and she'll do it wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But well, I fucking told you to do it and you didn't fucking do it and then it's well you always fucking say that to me and it uh it escalates very quickly so i've i've kind of put the thing out there like i just i cannot coach my wife at all it's it's a bad deal and i sure you probably, if you were in that situation, it would not end well, would it? Probably not. I think we know not to do that. There's some things that are good to do with your wife and some things that aren't as good to do. Knowing those boundaries is important yeah so tommy now you've had you you have been helping leah in the gym quite a bit i have the last couple months how has that been um she doesn't
Starting point is 00:10:54 listen to this does she very occasionally we're gonna we're gonna just we'll name this episode like dick and fart jokes i'm gonna tune out of this super guy boring stuff yeah tommy wasn't here just tanner and tyler don't bother listening leah if you're out there um she's pretty good about it the biggest thing there is i routinely tell her that you could try harder and they're they're're so into not wanting to get overly big. But it's the whole thing of that doesn't happen accidentally. But it's also good because they can really focus on technique when they're not worried about the weight at all.
Starting point is 00:11:39 For sure. So I found that the times that I do step in and they can increase their weights by like 20% and it doesn't affect anything, it's like you guys could go a little harder. But then they do that and they say like how sore they got too. So I guess they're taking it slow, which is fine. If that's the speed you want to go, there's nothing wrong with that. That's far better than the alternative. Yeah, it's probably a lot better than what a lot of dudes do,
Starting point is 00:12:05 which is come in and be like, well, I have to be the strongest person in this room. I think women generally have an advantage of not worrying about that as much. Maybe some do it, but at least at a beginner level, that's not their chief concern. Oh, yeah, literally their only concern is if they're doing it right or not.
Starting point is 00:12:22 They don't have any concern about the weight, which has been cool to see because, yeah, their main concern is if they're doing it right or not. They don't have any concern about the weight, which has been cool to see because their main focus at that point is just doing it right. So they have got their technique significantly better from the day they started. Have they picked up pretty good on the technique? Yeah, I think so too. The thing that impresses me the most is probably one of the hardest movements for a lot of people has been the front squat.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Almost since day one, that has not been an issue and that's like ass to grass like butt hitting the back of the legs no problem at all so i think that's a women thing though yeah i think so too be able to squat their elbows can stay parallel to the ground like no problem and are perpendicular to the ground i don't know if i brought this up on the podcast but i have a theory as to why women have exceptional front rack positions bras they have to get back to take on bras and everything and they never lose that they never lose that shoulder mobility it's like you're always able to do it and i can barely tuck in my own shirts yeah so that's my theory. That's a pretty good theory. I think it's pretty legit.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I mean, for how many years have they at least had to maintain that much range of motion once a day, twice a day? I think I'm awesome. I think I'm awesome. I think I'm awesome. I'm wearing bras. You're not? That was my cure.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But yeah, it's interesting. No, but back to like how some of the you know they're not that concerned with the weight i get all the time you know we'll have women from our crossfit gym will want to come over and tinker with some of our strongman stuff you know and so it's not uncommon on the weekend for you know a couple three of them to come over and and you know practice with the stones or carry some bags or um you know do some just weighted carries and that type of shit. But I don't get a lot of interest from the guys at the CrossFit gym. And I don't know if it's my estimation.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Like a bravado? It's like, well, I'm not going to come there and not be strong. And it's like most of the women are like, oh, that just looks like fun. And it's like, well, because it is fucking fun. Do you ever think that maybe they're doing that out of courtesy to you? They'd hate to make you look that bad? Or maybe, like, they just don't like me. Like, well, yeah, I don't like that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:35 He's a fucking dick. I wish he'd quit asking me to come do stuff with him. Miss Tyler being creepy and weird again. You guys want to come over and lift some rocks at the other gym yeah you're probably on to something there so yeah it's not ego it's just i'm not that cool i do think there definitely is that with guys though you know and probably guys in front of other guys and you know like well am i going to be awesome at it no fuck yeah that doesn't sound good we were just talking about that before about bowling.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We're all good for about one and a half games of bowling recreationally. And then any further than that, it's like, well, I'm not any fucking good at this. I'm fucking mad. And now I'm drunk. And my shoulder hurts really bad from doing this. Only to, if I'm lucky, break 100. Right. Yeah, I don't understand bowling at all.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And I never get these fucking hands into a bowling ball that fits yeah so it's like i'm just like i can see how that's like my fucking thumb hurts if i get it if i can even get my thumb in so a lot of times it's just two fingers in the ball and and just chucking the fucking thing down there i enjoy the drinking component of bowling quite a bit though yeah it's one of the few sports that has such a close tie-in with a bar yeah for sure powerlifting needs to probably i could see that it could benefit from that yeah what could what could we do to get a liquor license down at we just uh i think we just need a door guy and. Like $200,000 cash to take to the city for it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 That's it. We're in. Talking about front squat too, that one of the other ones on that list was that Jezza Uepa. I don't know if I say that exactly right, but he front squatted 880 pounds, which that is pretty crazy. I don't even understand that. Yeah. Like that's pretty nuts. I don't even understand that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. Like, that's pretty nuts. But, you know, if you think about what the, and I don't know, like, what's your ratio of, like, your back squat to your front squat? Is it, like, 75%? I was just going to guess 80 off the top of my head. Yeah, I don't know what a good ratio is. I couldn't even tell you mine because I haven't done them for over six months now. I'd say I'm probably at like 85% to 90% maybe.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So my question is, is what could somebody who is just a total fucking squat beast, you know, someone who squats 1,000 pounds. Well, he can squat 1,000. So there you go. Like he can squat 1,000 pounds. Could somebody like, you know, what's quads like Rob's front squat like? Yeah, I don't know. It's probably got to be a lot, you know? I mean, anything for him is a lot in the scheme of things.
Starting point is 00:17:16 So, yeah. So that's that. How was that? I didn't bring a physical sack today. I mean, just the one, You know, I usually bring two. You left that at home. Yeah. But my sack item that I was just going to discuss is Mandex or the use of men wearing
Starting point is 00:17:34 spandex in the gym. Oh, okay. Okay. Mandex or Mantites or what else are they? You lost. I was thinking like Windex. Yeah. I was thinking there was some some spray i
Starting point is 00:17:45 didn't know and i was i thought about bringing mine and like having you close your eyes and you'd be like put them up to your face and see what they smell like put your hands up and i was like oh they might not that might ruin the segment for the weeks to come or you should just warn them yeah that's true yeah i could have shown you've got them under your... Yeah. We put our hands out and you walk right into our hands. And what do you feel?
Starting point is 00:18:10 I feel uncomfortable. That's what I fucking feel. You took it one step too far this time. But that's something we've talked about a little bit before. But I have a few pairs and I like to wear them on squat day. Yeah, I think spandex for guys is a good thing. Spandex for some people is acceptable. I think if you're at a certain level of fitness, and it's in the name of doing squats or if the need calls for it, yeah, like it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:18:48 If you're just going to bench and you want to wear spandex tights that day, I don't know if that really makes sense or if there's a reason for that. I think there's a reason. It's that sweet underball angle. A performance reason. But I like it. You know, i've been wearing um i know like on deadlift days i just have a pair of like ones i go pat like they go to like three quarters like it's like to the middle of your shin and uh they're dude capris they are dude capris and i think they have a very similar effect even knee sleeves on me when i'm when i use them for deadlift
Starting point is 00:19:23 days like it how much warmer it keeps my legs when I go into front squats everything's feeling great so I like them for that for that aspect so Tommy's stance is they're like knee sleeves but for your balls ball sleeves yeah I like them too I wear them I don't wear them every single time I squat, but it's the most comfortable thing for me to squat with. I can get away if I'm not going super heavy. I can actually not even wear knee sleeves. It kind of feels similar still. Yeah, and I've never...
Starting point is 00:20:00 Because you have the... I think you have a few pair of the actual full pants. Yeah, yeah. And is the ceiling coming in, Tyler? There's my fucking dog upstairs. The sky is falling. I've never attempted to wear the full tights with knee sleeves because I always feel like something will like move or there'll be like an uncomfortable seam. So I don't know what that's like.
Starting point is 00:20:26 But I know you've done that before. Sometimes it's harder to get your knee sleeves on with tights than it is with just on the regular old skin. Yeah. Before the skin's all lubed up and things just slide. Did you guys ever try wearing your man tights at the YMCA when you were lifting? No, and we talked about that too. Like, you know, it'd be really cool to wear these.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like, it would make sense. It'd be nice. And it's just like, ah. Yeah, while we were going there, we had discussed that. It's like, ah, you just get so many looks from people. It's not worth it. That is nice being in a place
Starting point is 00:20:55 where you don't have to worry about that. Yeah. People just get it. Yeah, and the worst thing, the worst that'll happen is someone else will be like, eh, look at you, you douchebag. Yeah, kind of. Look at the balls on that guy.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I personally have never worn like the full tights even. I've been shocked. Does anyone in CrossFit wear the full tights? I don't, yeah, there's some people will. Guys though, not girls. Yeah, guys will. Like not terribly often, but I think it's because, not girls. Yeah, guys will. Like, not terribly often, but I think it's because there's such a wide range of...
Starting point is 00:21:28 You know, we... At Massanomics, there is not, I would say, not like a standard body type, but like everybody is generally getting stronger and fucking huge. You know what I mean? Whereas with CrossFit, there's such a wide range. So not that anything is discouraged
Starting point is 00:21:46 but there's a lot more just regular joe's people coming in so it's a little weird it's i don't think it's weird but it would be weird probably if i was like just wearing tights with like my dick bulge in a in a in a in a crossfit class with like 50-year-old woman or in a class with my mom. You know what I mean? It'd be weird, I think. I don't know. In massonomics, it's getting to the point where it's disrespectful to the person you're benching with if you don't have tights on when you're spotting them because it doesn't
Starting point is 00:22:18 give that person anything to look forward to. Don't miss this lift or I'm'm gonna fucking have to lean over here grab this bar um but i've been i've been in the market for some for a while i've kind of been looking for some to try um but i'm so worried about like the fit and i'm also super fucking cheap so and i know that it's not something i'm going to be able to be like well i'm sure glad i bought the 20 tights right because that's sure glad I bought the $20 tights. Right. Because that's a bad way to have your first tights, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I don't know if, you know, after having a couple pairs. What brands? I have, well, I have two pairs of Under Armour. Actually, I have three pairs of Under Armour and a pair of Nikes. And other than the biggest difference with the underarmors being like the length between like three quarters length or like more of the short above the knee length i also have a pair of like the the insulated ones more of like a long john underwear type thing yeah but other than the biggest difference being the thickness of them for insulation like the one is almost the only time i
Starting point is 00:23:21 wear it is for snowboarding like i'll wear it underneath my snow pants. But besides that, I don't know. Is the technology really that different in span? I feel like they try to make, try to sell it as being different. I don't know if it's really that different. Yeah, I don't know. There is something different with Lululemon, correct? Like isn't there? Yeah, it's four times as expensive.
Starting point is 00:23:40 For sure. But isn't there like something something physically different about it, the way it makes women's butts look or something? I think there's science behind that. I don't know. There's got to be something there. For $175 a pair. I remember on one of the episodes of the WODcast podcast, Armin was talking about how he worked at the Lululemon
Starting point is 00:23:59 in fucking Beverly Hills or something like that. And his job was basically rich women would come in and they would try on their stuff and his job was basically to tell them if they if it was too small it would stretch out so far that it'd become sheer you could see through it so basically that was his job was like you know what it's too small i can see all the way through so you need to get the bigger pair and that was just what he did all day which sounds like my dream job i think yeah is that an unpaid internship i don't know i'd take it honey we're moving to california um but i've i don't know they'd put you in the uh the men's lululemon though
Starting point is 00:24:40 way too small on that one see your stuff through there so that's the one you're going to want to go with perfect and I also think that if your company's name is Lululemon you should maybe have a different name for your men's line of clothing that's not
Starting point is 00:25:01 Lululemon like Lululemon for men like isn't a good enough yeah i don't know of uh call it something a little less lulu lemony yeah just slightly more masculine unless unless they are lemon wants to sponsor the podcast then we'll gladly accept many pairs of 170 dollar tights because they do offer they make quite a bit of men's stuff now, right? Yeah. And I've heard really good things about them. But for me, there's just... Not going to spend that much money on that.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I don't know. I have two pair of Under Armour. One's like three quarter and one's full length. And then one pair of Reebok. And the Reebok ones I don't like as well. They're like not quite as stretchy or something. Or maybe're a size too small I don't really know but they just don't they don't fit as good like the Under Armour ones just fit a lot better that's about my extent of what I and I've seen like brands you know that I do like the look of like the virus ones I think they look
Starting point is 00:26:00 but they're like fucking 80 exactly yeah god i don't know but i i think that i'll probably that'll it's probably what i'll buy for my first pair because if i'm gonna like walk around in goddamn spandex in public for the first time it better be some shit that i'm okay with wearing i also don't think it's cool for guys to like like as soon as you're gonna leave the gym like maybe put something else there's been times where I've gone, I've had like sweatpants on, and I go to the gym, and you know, you get hot,
Starting point is 00:26:30 you take your sweatpants off, and then I start going home with just my spandex on, and I'm walking to my car, and I just feel like such an idiot. Yeah. Out in public. Oh, fuck. Yeah, I'm not real big on out in public.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Like just fully out in public, not in the gym. So what if my boxer briefs are just spandex? Does that count? You're good. Just rock it. You'll be fine. Good.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And if my straight briefs are just spandex, is that, we're in a gray area? Yeah. You know, I've wondered though, because you hop on Instagram and especially in the crossfit community all girls have like the tiniest spandex spandex of all time at what point are when is it going to happen when some company comes out with instead of just the spandex whatever that cut is that that that has you know the quarter inch inseam at what point do they just make the brief style that runners, like you see track runners have, just the briefs? At what point is that going to become a thing?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Because I'm actually almost amazed it's not already, though, because I think there's pairs of spandex that people wear that are smaller than if they just had the brief cut. I consider myself quite an enthusiast when it comes to Brooke Wells' Instagram. And I'm pretty sure that most of her is, for real, like a quarter-inch inseam. And I've measured those things to scale. And I've ran it through all the algorithms. You use protractors and compasses.
Starting point is 00:28:02 All of the math. I've actually talked to a few people at our crossfit gym too because it's a pretty common thing in crossfit too to where like you know women not all of them but like sometimes you'll be workout as a man if i take off my shirt mid-workout it is a guaranteed like 15 15 percent performance increase for sure i thought just a lot of ooze in the eyes oh yeah yeah yeah that's what i guarantee standing ovation yeah usually everyone else stops working out and just admires but uh no so dudes will take off their shirts all the time to the point where during the crossfit games it almost gets ridiculous because it's like you guys know these events are for time like you're stopping mid-workout to take your fucking shirt off like it's like starting starting an event without your shoes tied yeah the guy in the 800
Starting point is 00:28:48 meter dash isn't like stopping at the 400 be like you know what let me get this thing off but uh and it's also not terribly uncommon for you know women to just take their shirts off and work out in like sports bra and you know and that and that's pretty common. But we had talked amongst a few members too, though, how if you're the average person who's coming in to like a CrossFit gym, that that might be a little bit intimidating. Because it's usually like the super fit people, you know, especially if you're a woman who's going to work out with your shirt off, like you probably got your shit together.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And when you're new to the fitness game being intimidated well being intimidated is big but seeing someone i think if you were to line us up and then put someone next to us that had like defined abs people would be like yeah that guy's stronger yeah just because people think associate abs with strength so i think that's even more intimidating thing than to see guys that don't look super chiseled standing by you. Yeah. Yeah. But,
Starting point is 00:29:46 uh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I was going. Well, do you, do you think that that could be like, is that a negative thing?
Starting point is 00:29:53 I think it could be. I mean, I would think for beginners that they wouldn't like it. Like they would, you know, some people wouldn't care. I think you're right. But at some,
Starting point is 00:30:01 I think could be like intimidated to the point like, Oh, I don't like it. Like it's. Yeah. And I would never want to like, cause frankly some, I think could be like intimidated to the point like, oh, I don't like it. Like it's. Yeah. And I would never want to like, cause frankly, when I work out, like I do enjoy occasionally if you're going fucking hard and it's fucking hot. It's like, I got, I got one extra power up left, you know, a goddamn fucking Mario star
Starting point is 00:30:21 here. Cause you can't take your shirt off and then half-ass it. You know, you'd best be going hard. What's the CrossFit view on chest hair? Apparently it's shorn. Unless you're Matt Fraser. Fraser doesn't give a shit, I guess. Otherwise you can't really have it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You shouldn't. I don't know. I guess if you're going to take your shirt off, why cover it up with hair? I'm like, why are you exercising if you don't want to look awesome? Shave that shit. What's wrong with you? What about backs? I feel like if you're in a relationship, you have no business having back hair. The weird paradox with that is if you're not in a relationship and you have no one to shave your back hair,
Starting point is 00:31:04 how are you ever supposed to get into a relationship? It's the paradox how'd it work for you tommy i don't have back hair yet this is i'm lucky enough to be you better lock it in young i just get a tie alone i just get a couple on my traps every now and you know just a couple hairs are you joking no i don't give back hair yeah christ i look like fucking sass yeah i don't i gotta have my wife fucking cut like the back of my like when i shave my head so she'll have to take care of all my weird neck hair because like yeah you know the bottom for me it just grows straight down into my traps yeah and then i'm like well i mean while you're back there you might as well just keep on block out yeah carve out the next hour of your schedule i do it
Starting point is 00:31:45 though like you know i cut my hair like every week and a half or two weeks so like you know it's never gets too out of hand yeah but um yeah i don't know the back hair thing it it has to go right like you can't not shot now sean's does have the a reacher it's like a reach around professor sean's has a device that i i think is officially called ye olde reach around but now i don't remember it was his for an electric trimmer or was it for an actual razor i don't remember i'm gonna just say it's for an electric trimmer either way that would still be difficult a razor just seems scary but like you could get in there with a mirror behind you and i think you could cover enough real estate you know how tired your shoulders would get well yeah geez but you're not shaving your back because you don't
Starting point is 00:32:33 lift that's true that's true if you don't lift you're keeping your shirt on yeah always yeah i suppose so yeah so so but back to like the people taking their shirts off like that would be the biggest fucking no-go if you were in like a 24-hour fitness gym right like you just yeah just plan on being kicked out with it yeah like you can't just take your shirt off and fucking start doing curls or even running on the treadmill or anything yeah so what's really the difference then why is that the case i don't know i don't know you pay more so you get why is then? Why is that the case? I don't know. You pay more so you get better? Why is that the case, that one and not the other? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Maybe. I have no idea. I think because CrossFit's probably a little more. I don't know. I really don't know. It's just like a difference in culture. I don't know why it's okay because I feel like you would alienate people or make some people uncomfortable. I kind of see this.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The one thing I can see is that you guys don't really use machines like you're not laying down on a bench you're not like yeah you're not like sliming up like you guys are like extension and you're also just kind of sliming up everything like you're all all sweaty all the time so like yeah you know like yeah so it's not like there's no one there that's like no no sweat no sweat. No sweat for me, please. Plus, it's not like if I had my shirt off, there's going to be more gross sweat spot on the ground. If I am doing a goddamn... If you're completely soaked. If I'm doing a burpee, there's the same imprint.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You know what I mean? It just might not have nipples. If I have my shirt on, it might still. So there's one thing in this spandex discussion that we haven't touched on, and this is a bit of an exotic product. The bulge? No.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Oh, so we have touched the bulge. I think we briefly touched the bulge. It might have been only for a second. What's the exotic? Officially stuffed. This would be the Reband Power Shorts. Oh. Oh, the, or what are they called?
Starting point is 00:34:28 The Warm Pants? Yeah, the Warm Pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Power, maybe I just made up that name. Yeah. It's in my head. That's what they are, but. I just, I was just looking those up, like, during another one of my tights searches before this.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So they are a strongman staple. For anyone that doesn't know, Reband, it is Reband, right? Yep, yep. Reband, right? Yep, yep. Reband, they make blue knee sleeves. I think they're kind of the first people to the knee sleeve game as far as I know. At least the first ones to make it popular. They make other colors now, but the blue is like the Reband color. Which, yeah, if you can go back to probably the 90s.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Or the early 2000s, strongman. Every single competitor had them on their arms and elbows. or an early 2000s strongman. Every single competitor had them on their arms and elbows. And then also during that time, you'll look, and they all had these same, or several of them wore these matching blue, it looked like spandex shorts,
Starting point is 00:35:16 but they were, as far as I know, I think they're made out of the reband knee sleeve material. Yeah, they're neoprene shorts, yeah. So it's like a hot neoprene diaper that you're wearing around. I actually, like, really kind of want a pair. Oh, I think it'd be sweet to have. And I thought we talked about getting them for a strongman competition. I still might.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I'm glad you refreshed my memory on that. I've got them in my cart in Amazon right now. Are they, like, $80? I would say the biggest, I think the only con on the list without using them is that they are $80, which is an expensive pair. But when you're talking that, you can spend $80 on a pair of Under Armour printed spandex of some kind. The problem I've got is I need my wife to approve me buying both. You know what I mean? Just tell her, can you put a price on looking good? I'm about to be done. When we're done with this podcast, I have to go and try to convince my wife to let me buy. Honey, I need not one $70 pair of tights, but I also need an $80 pair of tight shorts.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And so after she yells at me, somehow I'm going to make it work. Yeah, but no, those look really cool. Do they make a full-length pant? So this is what I know when I was reading reviews, because I think they're getting harder to come by. I don't think they're sold in a lot of places. But I was reading reviews, and some guy, I think this review was from like five years ago on Amazon,
Starting point is 00:36:39 a guy mentioned that he had the blue reband knee sleeves. He also bought a pair of knee sleeves to wear on his elbows. He had the blue reband knee sleeves. He also bought a pair of knee sleeves to wear on his elbows. He had the blue reband shorts. And I believe reband also made a top that he wore too. They do. And the guy mentioned that when he works out, it looks like he's wearing a scuba suit. A blue man suit. Which the style points, I don't know if the style points are there on that.
Starting point is 00:37:02 But you would have an impressive amount of neoprene on your body. Yeah. And you would smell like a fucking sock. People would smell you from miles away. You have that bad knee sleeve smell I get would be your entire body. And imagine the knee sleeve smell that soars some sort of ball. I would assume you have to wear these after every time you wash them. Yeah, you'd have to wash them.
Starting point is 00:37:23 So that's what I'm thinking is I don't think they're straight. they gotta be washable because i think the i don't know maybe there's but my knee sleeves i think there's like a i don't know there's like a layer out like a fabric layer and then a inner layer that's the bad yeah they gotta be durable because i know that's the one thing all the reviews people make like mention to is that these things are built like a tank. You cannot blow out a Seymour record. I saw, I think Rogue was selling a pair of those, the Reband warm pants, but they have them in black now. Okay. Well, what's the point of doing it unless you're going to get blue?
Starting point is 00:37:55 A little more appealing to me, actually. You just kind of want that Reband blue look. I don't know. How many, talk about a track record, how many world records have been broken in those things? Even last year, Brian Shaw broke the Stone World record wearing a pair. Stones is a really good example of where those are beneficial because with regular shorts, your tacky will stick to it,
Starting point is 00:38:18 and people will talk about even their shorts ripping from that. Oh, really? Yeah, because their stones will really be covered in tackyy and then they lap it and it rests on there and then it gets stuck to anything loose yeah and i've seen people's shirts ripped from that too okay you know if they've had a loose loose shirt where that's ripped off uh but yeah that's why i think that's a big reason why one of the reasons why it got so popular and strong and i think you see a lot of the guys a lot of times like in deadlift would be wearing it too, which when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:38:47 a lot of these guys to get a pair of shorts that fits fit them have to have a massive amount of fabric in the way. So I think just getting that stuff out of the way is, is nice too, for sure. But, and then I know when we, I'm pretty sure when we went to jackals and trained,
Starting point is 00:39:01 I believe Brad Gillihan was wearing a pair. I was just thinking we need to do that name drop of that time we were training with Brad Gillingham. We need to work that into the podcast more often about the time we were training with Brad Gillingham. That is Jim. It'd be cooler if it was more than one time. Brad, maybe you could give us a call. That's true. Please, any time.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I'll go out on a limb and say eventually we'll have, at some point in time we will have Brad on the podcast. Our paths will cross in one way or another. Whether he likes it or not. Actually, when I was looking for buying the Reband warm pants, they had one of the first Google searches is a link to the Jackals Gym store. Yeah, they were the exclusive, because Reband is, I think, a European company. one of like the first Google searches is a link to the Jackals Gym store. Yeah, they were the exclusive, because Reband is, I think, like a European company.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Okay. And so for years, they were the only place in America you could buy them. Like I know they had that, this wasn't even that many, I think just a couple years ago, they were still the exclusive provider in America for Reband knee sleeves. Jackals Gym. Yeah. Locking it down. Minnesota. But yeah, I don't know know i really want a pair i'm about
Starting point is 00:40:06 to have a really uncomfortable conversation with my wife about explaining why i need them and i don't know what the fit's like on those like should they be like tight like a pair of knee sleeves do they what's the waist do is there like just just the engineering the logistics of these things i have a hard time wrapping my head around like a wonder if there's like a drawstring or what the waste situation is. Let's see if I can. I probably should have been doing this instead of waiting until now where we have nothing else to talk about. I should have probably pulled up something.
Starting point is 00:40:32 We can talk about how fast you can type with one hand. I know. This is a positional issue. He never took typing in high school. I know. He does the hunt and peck method. Me and Mavis Beacon go way back. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:40:47 We've got the 7981 Warm Pants on Rogue. We'll pull up the blue basics here. You mean blue classics? The blue classics. Oh, there's nothing basic about those things. We'll go to Jackal's page here. I'm sure they're going to have a lot of really in-depth information here. There they are. Stretchy pants. There is a string, right?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Material. Neoprene. Centimeters. What the fuck? With a good fit, it says. You got me sold on that. Stretchy pants with a good fit. Reduces stiffness reduces stiffness oh damn it i love my stiffness in my pants so how many god damn it do i gotta figure out what my size is now you have to do a converter all right so what is 105 centimeters i would. Can I put a guess in? Oh, you already went? Ah, it's too fast. So that's 41 to 41 to 47.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Well, shit. I'm going to have to wear an extra large. Yeah, what's the extra large? 95 to 105. So that's up to 41 inches and down to... And what's the retail on those hogs? Yeah, what is the cost there?
Starting point is 00:42:11 37. So that'd be the way I would want to... That's pretty much the way I'd have to go. What size pants do you wear, Tanner? In the waist? 38. 38? Me too.
Starting point is 00:42:21 High five on that one. Yeah. Tommy needs a little waste over there. Probably not. These are $69.95 at Jackals, which actually is... That seems all right. ...fucking not bad. Because I think when I was just looking these up...
Starting point is 00:42:37 You can tell I've been doing a lot of CrossFit searching, because as I put in R-A, it's like Rabdo. As he types in R-A, it goes to YouPorn. It's like, that doesn't even start with that. Like, we know you want to go to YouPorn. We know what you're trying to do. X videos starts with an X. Doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Well, because it just knows that everything i do on the internet ends there um so this is the rogue ones that are 74 the black ones are those a different 79 81 is that a different it's the same it's the same one i don't see the straight oh wait this is 73 80 and that's also the awesome thing is that reband, everything is by a number. Like they don't really have, like all their knee sleeves, they're all numbers. You're just a number with them. You're just a number. So those are different. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yeah, goddammit. That's going to mess 7381. And what is different? And how long until SBD makes a pair of warm pants? I'm surprised they don't. All right, so there they are. So there's a weird... That is a great photo, though.
Starting point is 00:43:51 There's a weird... There is a little, like, a drawstring at the top. If you guys can see that right there, there's a drawstring at the top. Yeah, they look cozy. That seems to me like that would cause a little bit of friction right there i could be wrong right on the tip in the groinal region right in the crotch the crotchular region um yeah i don't know what the difference is truthfully then between the
Starting point is 00:44:18 the rogue ones and jack and the 7380s 7380381 i don't know maybe it's just the color too i don't know yeah it might be you know but uh and do you guys know any if you know anyone i'd like talk to anyone personally who's who's tried those because that's such a different thing like compression shorts are one thing and even tights are one thing, but like... I've never had... Brad's the only person I've seen in person use them. Yeah, me too. That time we trained with Brad at his gym. Brad Gillingham. Dead lifted over 800 pounds more times in competition than anyone else ever.
Starting point is 00:44:58 At Jackal's gym. Our friend. Really ringing that one up. friend really ringing which last year he was the head judge at the um the arnold deadlift yeah the arnold deadlift competition he was the head judge for that so maybe we'll bump past with him about the time you're hearing this thing because we're probably partying at the arnold right now no this will be this will come out the monday that we we leave oh okay so we're just partying at the Arnold right now. No, this will come out the Monday that we leave, I think. Oh, okay, so we're just getting ready to go party at the Arnold. Yeah, so if you're listening to this in the real-time future past,
Starting point is 00:45:33 we are on our way to the Arnold this week, I guess, even though next week we're still going to talk like we haven't been to the Arnold yet, and also the week after that. Well, we could move things around. You never know. Should we just act like we have been to the Arnold yet. Yeah. And also the week after that. Well, we could move things around. You never know. Should we just act like we have been to the Arnold already?
Starting point is 00:45:48 So, yeah, we knew what happened, but Arnold took Shane under his wing and they're now living in California together. They got an apartment together, Arnold and Shane. They're talking about all the good old days with Lou. Things are going good for them.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Arnold's confused. He's like, were you there when we shot Pumping Iron? How do you know even the behind the scenes thing? So life's going really good for a few people right now. Yeah. They asked us to compete
Starting point is 00:46:16 in the Arnold Strongman. And we won. Both of us. They gave us an award for just being there. They split the weight. You guys look pretty strong. You guys all want to come up here? They basically did a weight class of 290 and under and 290 and over. And Tanner and I each won our prospective weight class. Good for us, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Brian Shaw was pretty bummed out that I beat him. His conditioning just wasn't up to par this year. Deal with it. He's saying, what's he calling himself? Like gargantuan. Gigantor. Gigantor, yeah. Gigantor is coming.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Gigantor is coming. He looks fucking huge. Yeah. Well, his and Thor are both getting very large in like the past two weeks, I've noticed. Yeah, like I don't know what's going on. And normally, they do a pretty good job of hiding. They don't put much weight in this. I know, they are.
Starting point is 00:47:11 They put it on like 440. Yeah, I think they're getting a little competey with each other right now over Instagram. Where they're just like, time to get fucking huge. The sleeper on this is Eddie Hall. Is he competing now? And Zydrunas a little bit too. Eddie's not competing. Eddie's not now.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I want to know what this new Zydrunas 2.0 can compete like. Zydrunas is competing. He had a post not that long ago saying he weighed, I was in kilos, but if I ever saw him. He's on the come up.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah, I think he was like 380, which he's a jacked 380 yeah i think that was an interesting move for him to like get stupid lean yeah and then just kind of start over and just get because he has he's not as lean but he's still fucking lean yeah he's as lean as 380 pounds for sure but you know he's also a lot shorter than those guys so it's he could have the same if not more muscle mass on him and we're might be eating our words when we because i remember saying like there's no fucking way he's gonna even be able to hang i mean because he was like 100 pounds lighter and everything at the arnold is really heavy like it's not you know it's all
Starting point is 00:48:21 just like heavy you know there's not a lot of strongman endurance-y type. It's like max weights. For like 20 feet. It's not like carry a keg for 60 feet and turn around. It's like try and pick this up and move it 10 feet like we dare you to do that. And have your hands not rip off.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And Shaw's rocking a fucking solid beard now he looks huge though does he look big i bet i bet he's got to be like getting close to 450 yeah i was gonna say so how long do you think it'll be before we see a strongman competitor that's over 450 i mean with these guys it could be in the next couple years i'm gonna say like i'm gonna say like june yeah i think he's close i i don't know what his real weight is, but the way he looks right now. I thought they had had him around 440. A lot of times they list him at 425. They're just so vague about their actual weight, though, is what makes it hard to.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Right. It's kind of like when you're in high school football. Yeah, it's 50 pounds heavier. Three inches taller. You know, my coach technically wasn't wrong about what I weighed. It just took me seven years to get to that point so now now it is correct actually i was i was always on the other end of that it was like okay i'll put the for footballs i'll put the height at what it is and then i'm going to put the weight at just a little bit less than than what it is so it's
Starting point is 00:49:39 i'm not like embarrassed embarrassed but yeah so shaw looks like a fucking absolute beast and he's and he's lifting like he was posting instagram videos him like lifting in the dark and shit like just i'm i'm really looking forward to uh to beating him in the strongman competition this year um is he shaw strength on instagram i think so i think so too he changed it to gigantor did you guys yeah did you guys also see that uh rogue did a a road to the arnold with four yeah half i haven't watched it yet but is it have you watched it i did watch it pretty good i'm guessing yeah it was good it's uh it's kind of like if you've ever seen, I think, I want to say like Vice or someone did a documentary a while ago of like the giants of Iceland or something where it was all these guys in these northern European countries
Starting point is 00:50:33 where all they do is lift weights because it's black outside 20 hours a day and cold and nothing to do. Very close to a South Dakota winter. That's why we're so fucking huge. That's kind of like us in the winter. We'll just lock ourselves in the gym like yeah it's dark at four four in the afternoon so yeah but yeah it was pretty good i would recommend it there he's wearing the uh warm pants while he's log pressing yep 465 pound log press that if you're out there listen if you haven't seen the video watch where he presses that 465 and listen to how jacked up the people in the in the gym are if you have audio
Starting point is 00:51:10 like there's some serious screaming going on but like his neck has disappeared altogether i don't know if he ever had one but now it jesus christ that was not even close to the like look at his so his traps have just like like, taken over his head. That was 465, you said? Yeah. So Zydrunas has the record with 500, correct? Yeah. Was Zydrunas' 500, is that where he called it?
Starting point is 00:51:34 Because typically, with the overhead press, Zydrunas is in control. Yeah, and he got pushed to that in competition. Oh, he did? Yeah, because it still wasn't hard. competition oh he did yeah because they still because it still wasn't hard so you know people say well what could he do if he ever gets like uh you know an equal challenger to someone to someone to take him up farther and zujuna says he also never does that much in uh training so i wonder how he's so damn good at that yeah He doesn't push to those numbers in training. Those are always competition numbers.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Another fun fact about our friend Zydrunas. I shouldn't say friend Zydrunas. I would say borderline best friend Zydrunas. Is that Zydrunas also, for being incredibly strong, had a powerlifting career. This is more about our friend Brad Gilligan. career yeah where this is more about our friend brad gillingham where in like was it like 93 he competed at like ipf worlds where he lost to our good friend of the show brad gillingham he got like one kilo yep second place and super heavyweight yeah only to brad our friend brad that's one one meal that's one meal for brian shaw no this is a day right
Starting point is 00:52:43 i wish they would i wish you would kind of spell what all this is though so we have um basically one cheese oh there is eight meals a day so we have um looks like beef and noodles and beef and noodles and beef and noodles i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's easily a pound of beef a meal right that that looks like it's close and then we got beef and potatoes beef potatoes beef potatoes and then just just beef another six pounds of beef just there jesus christ um that's a lot good lord i don't a lot of so how many pounds of beef is in there like 10 pounds in a day yeah here's the deal i firmly believe that i could eat that in a day i really do believe that for six months straight exactly that's the problem i know i could do that i know i could do
Starting point is 00:53:37 that tomorrow yeah um and i don't know that i could do it the next day or the next day and that's the concept that no one understands with getting bigger or gaining weight, that just because you ate big for one meal or big for three meals, that really doesn't mean anything. You have to do it over and over and over and over again to see anything. Yeah, one day is meaningless. I'm sure this Big Grow supplement here is the real key to these strong men.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It's not that 10 pounds of meat that he eats a day. It's that Bio-Grow. Yeah, why doesn't he have that out front? He probably doesn't want to give away his secret. I feel like there's probably some other supplements that these guys take that are not so much out front either. Why does that not come up in the strongman stuff at least it's more open in powerlifting where it's like oh you know freaking live well pharmaceuticals yeah it must
Starting point is 00:54:33 be uh world's strongest man or i would or it's got to be world's strongest man or the arnold organization that uh don't want that that maybe but maybe you get your hand slapped or something. I do think that part of the problem with them not being open with it, even with powerlifters, bodybuilders, everybody, there's a few that will talk about it, but they're not the ones that got supplement deals. And the way most of them are getting fed and getting their bills paid is from supplement deals.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And if i'm paying tanner to represent fucking tyler's protein powder i need tanner to be like saying this is why i'm yeah you can't be out here like dude i've just been getting fucking huge off this shit yeah um yeah so i don't know there's so much fucking food and he was on what's the um furious pete was the competitive eater yeah yeah i saw brian shaw and they had each other yeah and and he did beat brian shaw in the one bowl of spaghetti eating contest yeah but i'm pretty sure brian shaw ate five times what he ate you know throughout that 24-hour period. That picture where he's loading the sandbag right there onto the platform,
Starting point is 00:55:52 he would have won that year except for the sandbag dropped. He put his hands off it and it wasn't quite all the way on the platform. Yeah, 2010, that's what he's talking about, I suppose. He got second by just a nose that year. Once it fell back in the water, it took him a long time to get it set back up there. So who won that year? That must have been Big Z. So he would have another title if he just would have got that on there a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm sure that probably haunts him at night i want to know if you're jesus fucking zadrunas holy shit so zadrunas is getting thick yeah yeah he looks like he could really just speaking of tights too he wears some pretty crazy tights a lot of times. And he's got the SBD uniform on a lot, too. Yeah, he's all SBD anymore. Has there been any interviews or anything with him around what he's been doing lately? I think that's where he talks about how much he weighs, maybe. Body weight, 170 kilos. Tanner, you're my kilo guy.
Starting point is 00:57:02 So times two would be 340. Plus a little bit more 70 is 374 okay yeah jesus and i bet he's up from there even by now yeah so he's probably right at 400 yeah that which is about where he probably needs to be that was a week ago so i'm assuming now he's 415 he doesn't have near the gut he used to i I don't get it. Yeah, it's like, where is this muscle going? I wonder if that was part of the point. Yeah. Because now look at how much more he could stack on, say, by next year.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah. You know, he got that gut out of the way. He's still going to be 400 and back. How old is he? I just feel like he, especially when you have the gut, I just assumed he was like an old man. Yeah, I thought he was like 45. And now he looks really young again.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Well, I think he is in his 40s, I'm sure. I have been noticing something with these logs that these guys are using, Tanner. They're pretty sweet. I've been having some trouble with my log cleans. Like, I can log press, like, all day. But I just really, really, really struggle with the clean, right? And as I'm seeing the logs that these guys have,'s a much wider it's like a barrel the opening well just the opening itself is bigger where you get your hands into the deal because i'll go into my forearms will be on the
Starting point is 00:58:16 edge of that and it's so narrow oh and like so it's a weird position to try to be yeah strong in whereas these guys are able to be like at almost shoulder width yep um so that's why i suck at log cleans it's because it's tanner's fault it's tanner's fault well also ours is an eight inch log and those are like at least 12 inch logs so it's a little different too is that the diameter i don't know which diameter i have no idea i don't know i'm not sure i'm gonna say whatever we don't have is easier. Yeah, whatever we have makes it harder to do for sure. That's why we're not better at it. But his fucking quads, Zydrunas, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Dude is huge. And he is competing at the Arnold. Yep, he will be. Do you know anyone else who is? So we've got... Shaw, him, and Half Thor. Shaw, him, and Thor. And then everybody else is competing for...
Starting point is 00:59:08 Fourth and below. Jerry Pritchett would be another big American that does it. He deadlifted... He was actually the first American to... He's one of the few Americans to deadlift over 1,000. Huh. So he probably won't compete for first, but he'll be up there. Do you suppose Eddie Hall will be there?
Starting point is 00:59:34 I don't know. See, the reason he's not there is because they changed this Arnold thing to like a year-round thing where you get points by competing in all the different Arnold's, you know, cause there's Arnold's and all these like Australia and all these other countries. And he, he wasn't competing in those other ones. And like in one of them, even he just did the deadlift and then he kind of said he was hurt and didn't do the rest of the competition.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So I think they were maybe butthurt at him. So do they not invite him? Was that the case here? Yeah. I think like he didn't qualify interesting i think it's kind of i maybe there's money for for them in it to go on the whole thing but when i had noticed that they were doing arnold japan arnold australia arnold fucking europe arnold antarctica that it was like i mean how how many competitions would you want to do? Yeah, not that many.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And how are you supposed to stay strong? And if you're Brian Shaw, I'd be like, well, can't I just have one fucking Super Bowl? Yeah, right. So the last thing I'd want to do is defend being the strongest man in the world. Yeah, 10 times a year. Yeah, I think that would suck. So I guess we could do our, we predicted the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:00:44 We were all right on who won the Super Bowl. We were. Yeah, I knew it the whole time. We were looking pretty dumb for a year. Yeah, I think that would suck. So I guess we could do our, we predicted the Super Bowl. We were all right on who won the Super Bowl. We were. Yeah, I knew it the whole time. We were looking pretty dumb for a while. So who's your prediction? This will come out the Monday before the Arnold. Who's your prediction on winning the Arnold Strongman? I'm still, like, my consistent
Starting point is 01:00:59 safe bet is Shaw. He's like the new England. I say to me, unless something changes big time, the matchup of Shaw and Thor,
Starting point is 01:01:09 Shaw always wins because he's way smarter about it. Thor probably should win, but he just always does like dumb things.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It's like try too hard on things that don't matter or his timing. Just, it just doesn't seem like he quite runs events the way he
Starting point is 01:01:24 should in the smartest way. And Shaw, I think, really has that advantage over most competitors. And I think Shaw is pretty, like, pretty well-rounded. I mean, what do you suppose the hole in his game would be up until now would be pressing? Maybe? Yeah, I mean, like, you could make the argument he's not up there with uh eddie and big z on the pressing yeah that's about it i mean uh in comparison to half thor he's not as good at the movement you know thor can beat him on the stones and the carry medleys because thor is the
Starting point is 01:02:01 fastest you know he he moves better better than any other competitor in that stuff but Shaw has him beating all the static strength events. And the Arnold's just so heavy. Yeah exactly. But then the part of me is that like it's not like Zedrunas is
Starting point is 01:02:18 not the strongest person who's ever lived. You know what I mean? He's won more Arnolds than anyone. Yeah, I think eight. So it's like there's a part. But if Big Z hadn't done this thing. Yeah. But seeing how he's come back, I'm pretty like.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's just hard to say how he's going to perform this year. If you took some units of last year. If I had to bet an amount of money that mattered to me, I'd bet it on Shaw. If I was betting an amount of money that didn't matter to me, and I maybe wanted a little higher return, I'd put my money on Zydrunas. Because I'd be like, you know, he's always been a really bad motherfucker. And it's not like he's super weak now. It's interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Now, a year from now, if Zydrunas is healthy, and whatever it is that he's trying to do this year, by next year, I think that'll be a really, really interesting competition by next year. For him, with getting older, it's probably just going to be a matter of how he's able to stay healthy or not. Yeah, how you stay, like, top and strong. He could probably talk to the people at Live Well Pharmaceuticals. Yeah, they keep a lot of people healthy at the top of his game keep them real healthy health yep health and wellness so type stuff well that's our uh so who did you who'd you say tanner um i was you know in world's strongest man this next year i'll take half
Starting point is 01:03:42 thor i i think he could he could pull that off. But in the Arnold, I don't think he could probably quite hang with Shaw on some of the static stuff. So I'll still go with Shaw. What do you think about Eddie in World's Strongest Man next year? I think he'll be up there. I think he'll podium again for sure. He could compete for first, I think, too.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Well, didn't he say, like, basically if he would have finished in the middle of the pack on the carry because of his fingers? Yeah, he sucked it up on the frame carry. You know, got, like, bottom of the point. He said if he'd have been middle of the road, he would have won. Yeah. And I always – you know, the last couple years, I always thought with Eddie, I was like, he's just not well-rounded enough. always you know the last couple years i always thought with eddie i was like he's just not well rounded right i do think like a lot of people and they said on the documentary he's he probably is the strongest person like just like moving the weight um but he just doesn't isn't well-rounded
Starting point is 01:04:37 he's not that fast right i think he's getting better at that stuff every year that's why it'll be interesting to see him next year but um but i think that'll do it for us today, guys. We're at our soft hour here. Do we have anything else you wanted to go over before we wrap up, Tanner? Oh, no. I think people should, if you haven't bought one of our Lift
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Starting point is 01:06:57 information is the title line that's what i that's how i would summarize what we do great information yeah i mean we opened this episode by going i don't really summarize what we do. Great information. Yeah, I mean, we opened this episode by going, I don't really know what we're going to talk about today, guys. We still did it, though. Yeah, pulled it off. We wasted an hour of your time, and thanks for listening. Make sure you go to Facebook, like us on Facebook. On the Instagrams, Tanner, you can be found at?
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