Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 472: The Rise of Machines in Home Gyms

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

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Social media, website, everything. Massanomics. Welcome everyone to episode 472 of the Masanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from Western Northeast South Dakota and Southeastern South Dakota. My name is Tanner and my name is Tommy Tanner. I you might think that I'm sitting here with reband knee sleeves, reband warm pants on all that because I'm so warm but it's just from the pre show. So hyped right now. That's the hashtag pre show effect baby. Yeah, we just

wrapped up another banger of a pre-show for anyone that doesn't know the pre-show is the show before the show Exclusive only to supporting members. That's the only way you get in on the pre-show You can listen live if you're a supporting member and that's the only way the pre-show is not recorded You only listen to the pre show live. It is real spectacular PR on the pre show this week. Most ever turned in Yeah, for one pre show. I think that's like a pre show world records. It's damn near doubling every week at this point. Yeah, there's no, no, no ads in the pre show. It's just raw. I like to say that the pre show is raw filtered on cut on version of

mass. Yeah, what is it? It's it's raw and filtered. It doesn't make sense. It's raw and unfiltered and uncut. Mastodon mix. It's really edgy. No recording shows. It's just the pre just out into the ether. We just sit there and just say vlogger obscenities. obscenities that we couldn't say on the regular show, because we just keep it just to the pre show. I drop I get all my bombs out of the way in the pre show.

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I can already feel it. I just want to jump into Mail Call. First of all, we're going to kick off the show with Mail Call. I've got some mail here that have come in this week. First of all, is a special sticker. Anonymous got two of them here, so there's one for you. Also, Tommy, and it is an enormous sticker that came in the mail this week.

That's really tell everyone what you see there. It's a giant square that says that was not on my 2025 bingo card. And it's showing a picture. There's an assumed card. Yeah, assumed card. Yeah, it's a text does say that was not on my 2025 bingo. Yeah, that's exactly what it says. But yeah, we a calendar. The text does say that was not on my 2025 bingo. Yeah, that's exactly what it says. But yeah, we know they mean to say bingo card. We just know the rest goes without saying.

That's good. That's good. Real sassy. There is two of those. I got one for you also. That was an anonymous. That thing's enormous. This is gonna take up some good real estate on the-

It's like six by six. It's huge. It's huge. Even Greg Doucette would be right if you thought this is enormous this is an enormous yes it is Greg this actually is so that'll take up some good real estate on my sticker blast project the Smith Machine and Masonics gym I don't know if you've seen lately, but it's that thing's getting a lot of stickers on it. Some people have started to even just bring their own

stickers to put on there. So it's really good. So people, so it's snowballing. People are figuring it out. Yeah, people are. And people have sent a lot of stickers. So keep the stickers coming. We have to completely cover.

I'll say it by the lift, by the end of the lift hard live easy classic, we need to completely cover the Smith machine. I think that weekend you could get a lot of sticker coverage on. So that's the goal by the end of that weekend. I want I don't want you to be able to easily tell that that Smith machine is gray. You'll be like, what color was that? I don't know. It's sticker blasted. Just sticker second mail call had a

Postcard come in here damaged rip a ripped postcard. So we'll never even know the full postcard Sorry, you only got half of it the other half didn't well, it's yeah, so I think I can tell most of it, but the the text on it on the back says with the twins so that gets a the text on it on the back says with the twins so that gets a With the twins. Oh, yeah little little twins talk back But I don't know Brad the pad is listening along live But it says safety is never an accident and you can tell it's Brad Actually on one side he's holding his bells of steel crash pad on the other side It's actually like a maxi pad that he's holding

Yeah So, I don't know if there's anything else to that bottom 25% of the postcard that I just dropped here, but it's more mysterious that way to never know. Yeah Safety is never an accident. He's got like the adult diaper or is that feminine product? I'm not really sure It's hard to tell it's ripped in half you never know right right oh unfortunately that got ripped but well what's left of it all hang on the bulletin board at Massimics Gym. That's Mail Call for episode 472. That's a good Mail Call. Yeah. Let's see here. I did get a new SD card.

I had that before last week's episode. So yeah, people have been wanting to hear you in high definition. They could just hear the clarity of the SD card. Then some people were talking about my video going out of focus and I think I got all the settings right. But it does just keep on it. It wants to sometimes come out of focus. So I got to keep my eye on it and make sure it's tracking

Yeah, wants to stop tracking is what it does. Okay, so even when you tap on your face It still is well, no once I were tap on my face it goes back But then it just loses it at a certain point there must have been so there must be some setting got somewhere there Cuz last week's episode I noticed I had to tap it a few different times and then it would go back to working. So Yeah Yeah, probably wants to focus on some big bends that it wants to focus on the secret merch in the background There actually is even as we speak there is circuit secret merch in the background just so everyone knows There is almost always secret merch in the background. And I post something on Instagram probably once a week

that has secret merch in it. I posted something today on our Instagram story that had secret merch on release merch in it. And if you ever think, oh, Tanner accidentally did that. I never accidentally do that. I always purposely do that. Very intentional. It's there.

You just have to know where to look and what to look for and nobody does So it doesn't really matter, but I like to think about it that someone's getting a glimpse of something This week's episode what do you can in are you can anything actually got two things I got to do this week. I'm a Little on my protein levels, so I'm gonna. Oh, I'm gonna hit it again here. We got the It's gonna focus Maybe I'll have one then too actually cuz did we both try the same flavor last we did I didn't know if you still had yours on I got the genius shot here. Let me grab mine. Okay last week The RP team had sent us some genius shots. I can't remember Tanner

What was the flavor we had last week orange creamsicle orange creamsicle this week. We got Blueberry or blue raspberry that's right, and I was just so taken aback by the flavor and texture last week It was not what I was expecting at all I was expecting something a little thicker a little chunkier and it was just it was almost like juice But somehow it's juice that has 23 grams of protein and nothing else. It's a miracle of science. And every time we're going to take-

I'm not even sure. I'm doing the shaking thing. It's actually, I don't think even necessary because it's so liquidy actually. And you know, oh, there's a good pre-show graphic already. Save that pre-show graphic. People are making pre-show graphics. We got to hear the official genius shot sound of the podcast though When the disturbed hits every no, it's time for a genius shot

so I think they're trying to license the music from disturbed for this so they can Actually, yes for the new shot. This reminds me there was an SNL skit. My wife watches a lot of SNL lately So if I ever catch her what you're doing, so she's she's got SNL on and there was a skit my wife watches a lot of SNL lately so if I ever catch her when she's not wrong and doing so she's She's got SNL on and there was a skit on the other day where they kept making These odd eye movements at the camera to like acknowledge the camera and it kept doing like these eagle noises and stuff And then at one point it just does that which I thought was really funny that SNL even mixed it in there, too Big Cody supporting member would tell you those aren't eagle noises. Those are hawk noises actually because Eagle makes a unappealing noise Okay, actually, but it's what people think an eagle does what an eagle says boy. All right

Okay, genius shot To women and horses to women in horse stall mats and the men that ride them God To women and horses, to women and horse stall mats and the men that ride them. God, you know, I wouldn't say blue raspberry is my first choice on flavors, but this one's pretty damn good. Mm hmm. I might even like this more than last week's maybe. These guys are freaking geniuses. For 23 grams of protein, that is not bad at all. Oh, wow. Pure protein too. Pure.

Unfiltered, raw and uncooked. And a little sodium. You gotta have a little sodium though. You want a little sodium. A little bit. It'd be nice if the opening of the bottle was a little bigger so you you just get it down faster. Yeah, it's like slowing me down.

So which flavor do you like better? You like this one better? It's hard for me to say. Can you hold yours up again there? Oh, this old thing. Oh That how was it? Oh Can't hear you. This is genius shot. He's really good. It was incredible This thing this thing sucked oh you were recording that sorry there I

Didn't know you're gonna record I didn't record that well, so I won't send that part to Nick. All right You know what? I like the orange one better though. I'm probably 5149 blue to blue to our orange to blue Just Frank. I'm gonna go orange 60% I'm gonna go orange 75% Oh really? Yeah, it was not that much of a not that much of a gap for me They were fine. They were pretty damn similar. I'm gonna have to start taking a pretty hard line on blue raspberry. I mean, I wanted to but they made this blue raspberry

good. But it just doesn't make sense. I 100% agree. You show me a blue raspberry. I remember when raspberries used to be red. Used to be a proper damn country with red raspberries. And they're out of season almost 11 months out of the year. 11 and a half of the 12 months. Proper country where you couldn't really even get decent fruit at the grocery store. Before all these damn GMOs.

For the GMOs ruined it all. I'm not sure if that's the right, confusing my people that are mad about stuff probably. Yeah. I'm mixing my people that are mad about things. It's just an angry, angry. I'm gonna follow it up with a watermelon lime. Oh.

Good and gather now though. I don't know how you hardly can follow that up though. It's hard to do. I've got a little something here. Oh, what color is that? I don't know if I had this on there. It's yellow. Yeah, I've got Waterloo Ruby here. Oh, color. If I had this on the yellow. Yeah, I've got a Waterloo Ruby Red Tangerine.

Oh, OK. Yeah. Do not adjust your screens unless I'm blurry again. This is a Ruby Red Tangerine. Wow. Oh, you know, might even hit Watermelon Lime might even hit better after that Blue Raspberry. I'm just getting all my fruit for the week right here.

I dose of fruit in my genius shot in my sparkling water. Pretty one just tuning in Tommy is anti fruit historically. Not a big fruit guy. This is Yeah, pretty much all the fruit flavoring I've had this week right here. In these sources. This is a tasty beverage. Waterloo rarely disappoints, of course, but the ruby red tangerine, it's friggin good. It's like a four. It's friggin good. I mean, it's riding off the coattails of grapefruit

flavoring, sparkling waters and rubies and tangerine. Yeah, pretty good. It really works good in my red drink spot right here, too It's off camera. I have to take my word for it mine works great on my horse tall a pony pad coaster over here. Oh So alright great great segue coaster restock I'm hoping by the time this episode is live

They either have been restocked or they're coming really really soon So I guess if you're you're listening that when I said live I mean like when this episode publishes on Sunday and Monday the upcoming Whatever the hell this comes out if you're listening to it Hopefully the the coasters have either been restocked or they're going to be any day. We're just waiting on the very final step of the process to get them printed. Actually, when I was prepping the horse stall, Matt coasters big Anthony came over and helped keep me company the other day

when I was outside. Oh, while I was getting many horses, you get some unpaid labor out of him. No, he just stood there and didn't even didn't even prep any horse stall mat coasters. But he did get a sneak behind the Mastinomics meat, a sneak peek behind the Mastinomics meat curtain to see how these snossages are made. Well, that's worth something. Yeah.

You said these snozzberries taste like snozzberries. So they should be back. There is a whole bunch of back in stock email people that have signed up. So it is very possible. I don't know if it'll happen or not. But it is possible that they'll sell out on the first day that they're released again. So if you get the notification, if you see it in the Mastronomics Discord, if you get the notification if you actually it in the Mastinomics discord if you get the email that they're back in stock and you do want

them do not wait because it is there is some significant likelihood that they sell out on the first day I mean there's a chance by the time you're in this they're gone again you never know that is true if that happens we'll probably do another run we're not trying to like artificially just Really hard supply on these they're just a pain in the ass to make and stuff So it's like we don't want to make Some like many hundreds of these and then they don't sell and then we're just sitting on a whole bunch of horse stall mat coasters for decades Like we're giving away horse stall mat coasters to our family and friends as gifts for years. Like, I don't lift.

I don't get it. What's going on here? Yeah. So do be on the lookout for the coaster restock. All right. Another week, another reporting. I've seen a few more forest restyles this week. There's so many of them around. It's kind of crazy. Black ones. Saw a couple black ones this week. There's so many of them around.

It's kind of crazy. Black ones, saw a couple black ones. Oh, black one. Yeah. Wow. Was it two tone black? No, it was all black. Oh, all black.

That would be a sharp unit. It was very sharp. It looked like it just came from the detail shop. That'd be a sporty unit. Yeah. I said, oh, is that a freaking Audi wagon over there? Oh just a freestyle Wow, okay. All right When I was in oh I was probably in my very early 20s or if I was maybe even just 20 I

My primary car was a car still it was I had a Pontiac as probably this is probably when I was 19 my primary car I was maybe a freshman or a sophomore and call as a sophomore in college My primary car was a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, of course four-door Yeah, I was a four-door. I don't want to talk about my actions funny my roommate. So you wouldn't have brought that up I remain college also had the four-door GTP. Yeah But I also wanted to pick up because I was kind of doing pick up stuff. I bought a house and I Don't know. I just did like to do pickups yet. So I Bought a second vehicle for a little while and it was like a

1993 Ford F 150 regular cab short box step-side box. Oh. It was a step-side box. It was black in color. It was not a nice nice shape pickup. You know, it was rusty. It was not the best rendition of those. And it had, I had a few mechanical issues on it here and there. What do you think you paid for it? I feel like I paid like $2,000 at the time. I mean, it would sell for way more than that now. But that's what we used to be a proper green country.

We could go buy a pickup truck for $2,000 vehicles were disposed of. Keith just pulled that from. But he just shared a picture, a senior photo of mine with my second motorcycle. That was my first crotch rocket. That was a Jixxer 750. And as a 17 year old, that was a, essentially a death trap. Oh God. Yeah. My, my football coach told me, you stop riding that. Yeah. I do not want you to be writing that anymore Wow

Yeah, so I had that as a senior in high school or junior and senior in high school What do you think what do you think that thing costs at the time? I? Bought it off of eBay From anywhere around here did they ship it to you I met the guy halfway So he was somewhere to like he must have been past Sioux Falls because I met him in Brookings. Okay, so it was within the area though? Yeah, yeah, within the area, but I bought it off of eBay without my, I didn't get prior approval

from my parents on that, and I remember bringing that home and my dad was like, what, do you, what is this? That's a pretty ballsy move, buy a motorcycle off of eBay in like 2004, three? 2003, as like a 16 year old. That was a pretty ballsy move by the motorcycle off of eBay in like 2000 what for three 2003 as like a 16 year old move that as a 16 year old. Yeah. I yes yes it was and it was probably two or $3,000 I would guess you know it wasn't it wasn't especially as a 16 year old an insignificant I mean I had the money I didn't need a

lot you know I just I paid for it, but It was not an insignificant amount of money for me at the time, right? I know that's that's I didn't know you know if you do what it told me to guess and like I Actually, you don't even know that what the market is on crotch rockers I have no idea what that would ever even come that was an old motorcycle though. I was like that was like That is an old crotch rocket. That's like a 1989 really might be it's like an early 90s or something that was not Rockets the 80s. I mean, I think someone could fact-check

I just don't remember at the time I would have known but that was a very early crotch rocket Because I bought it in 2003 and it was not remotely new in 2003 Continue for noon as a crotch rocket the entire time An early crotch rocket Do people what do people call like that? I always say those are is it a sport is it a sport bike? Is that the actual term for it? I it's crop. Those are always, will always be crotch rockets. I like to think that their advertisements come out and they're like announcing the new Suzuki crotch rocket.

Like that's how they refer to it. The follow-up when I had to that was even more dangerous. It was a 1000 CC ninja. Whoa, that's crazy. And it was very fast. And I went dangerously fast on it before. And it was like not frequently frequently but just out of like having to see what it was like.

Doesn't Larry have a blue Suzuki crotch rocket? He does, he has a Jixxer. His might be a six, whatever the six, 636. Cause Larry's is pretty nice, isn't it? Yeah, yeah his is a 600 and some CC, whatever they make. I got that picture of him riding it. I remember he came to the gym one day and he was doing wheelies.

I'm like, whoa, I've never seen you on a motorcycle. You're just here doing wheelies with sandals on? He's digging through all my old photos. He's got a picture of me there on the 1000 CC Ninja. Oh, that's the green one there? Yeah, and that was a pretty new motorcycle. That's a Suzuki. When I bought that, yeah, when I bought that

in like 2006 or seven, it was only a few years old and what's that? That's a ninja. Oh, it is a ninja. Okay. Yeah, I thought I thought Kawasaki made Oh, that's a Kawasaki. Sorry. My other one was a GSX ours 750 this was a Kawasaki ninja. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense then that's I was all confused Don't know any of my motorcycles, but I always know a green ones Kawasaki Ninja, it's all I know and Brandon's got a good eye the coolest thing in that picture isn't the Motorcycle is the Nike shocks which were all the rage and they're kind of back now a little bit. Oh really? Oh, yeah, I always love I have several pairs of Nike shocks at one point in time. Yeah, you can buy him now

It is a thing again. Yeah, ZX-10R, there you go. Someone else, oh, but I'm back to the pickup. What the heck was my point? What were we talking, the Ford Freestyle? Oh, the little Ford pickup that I had. Oh yeah. Eventually I decided this thing is more trouble

than it's worth and I'm like, was gonna buy an actual pickup like for my main vehicle. So I was selling both of these things and just gonna get a decent pickup and I listed it in the newspaper at the time as people did which is funny to really funny to think now that that's How you I used to check the newspaper classified ads like every day? I mean it was like Facebook marketplace what I do now only I did it in the local newspaper in the early 2000s. Yeah, all the time. I mean, I checked it like every day to see if there's anything.

I never ever would. I mean, I had nothing that would ever be of interest, but I always even I thought it was fun to look through those two. I would do the same thing. Not that hardcore, but I would check them out. So I will get the guy. I think that bought it. It I get the guy I think that bought it, it was an older guy, a farmer, and it was a stepside box. And he kept on the phone and in person saying,

oh, that's gotta be really handy with the stepside box. He'd say, that sounds like a really handy unit. And after a while, I just started going along with it. And I'd be like, like a really handy unit. And after a while I just started going along with it and I'd be like, yep, real handy unit. And I bet between the two of us, handy unit was said probably like 10 to 15 times through the total transaction. I just was like, you want a handy unit.

Gotta call it like you see it. It is one of the handiest units you could ever have and that just reminds me to bring it 360 degrees full circle. The Ford Freestyle is quite the handy unit. But I just wanted that to mean more than just saying it once. You know what? That's a really glad, really glad you put it that way.

And yes, that is a handy unit. Wouldn't you describe a Ford afford freestyle as a handy unit? I absolutely would. I can't think of two better words to describe it to the park park today. You did. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, it's a family. It's a family hauler. Look at it.

Well, I mean, it's a handy unit. It's no crotch rocket, but it can't put six people on a crotch rocket either. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of the opposite. I don't think Kawasaki ninjas come in Pueblo gold. So Yeah, you can't put six people on a crotch rocket either. Yeah, it's kind of the opposite of a crotch rocket. I don't think Kawasaki Ninja's coming Pueblo Gold, so. Be a lot cooler if they did.

All right, well now that we got the forward freestyle update out of the way, the next update we have to have. That wasn't even a topic on the list. Nope, that was just bonus topics. The next thing we have to address here is cottage cheese again. And we already got cottage cheese pot, I got two things to say. So I was at pizza ranch last night. Oh, actually two things report on pizza ranch.

Didn't you say you and your boy went like a couple of months ago and it was like $35 for the two of you. That's, I mean, yeah, it was like some insane amount of money. I can't read out. Okay. I'm someone that to listen back to what I said, but pretty sure that Tuesday nights are some you know they don't give you a receipt so I don't even know what right is but I'm pretty sure Tuesday nights are some discounted night for little kids so for my wife and I a four-year-old and a two-year-old Oh Tuesday kids eat free a certain night of the week is that what it is maybe it's free I think it was $32 for all four of us to go which

at that point great deal for a buffet yeah because I think kids eat free so that would make sense okay I didn't know if it was free or half price or whatever it was but so the four of us to go for 32 that's cheap right there but cottage cheese pizza ranch I can say now after hitting a few more cottage cheese lately it is it is top-tier cottage cheese pizza ranch. I can say now after hitting a few more cottage cheese lately, it is, it is top tier cottage cheese, especially considering it's on a buffet. They just got it figured out. It's it's good stuff.

I might call and ask them where they get the cheese from. We make it at the ranch. Uh, so that was good. And I do got to say, man, I don't know if I just got lucky, but I'm telling you the high V cottage cheese, the large curd 4% is some top tier cottage cheese. Really? It's, and this is the thing about it.

The top of it. Is it better than Daisy? Yeah. Oh, significantly better than Daisy. It's really good. Uh, the top of it is actually big Garrett says it's the best he's ever had. I would say it's, it's like mid at best at the top. It's mid grade. It's so runny and not that good. But what it is is the curds are so enormous that by the time you get to

the bottom, they're all sucked to the bottom and it's like, you're just eating cheat giant cheese crumbles. I gave one to Leah and she's like, Oh, what's this? It's like a giant piece of cheese. I'm like, yeah, it's awesome. It's just cheese with a little bit of like white sauce on it. It's amazing. So I don't know if I just got lucky when I grabbed two of those things from high V, but, uh, now that I've gone back to my Daisy this week, so maybe my Costco run it's a Daisy's like perfectly minced little, little, uh,

cheese curds in there, whatever they are. They're all identically, they are identically like cubed to the perfect little dice thing Yeah, it's got nothing on the Hy-Vee house brand. Okay So you got that to look forward to maybe the next time you come to town We can see it really is a helpful smile at every aisle. I guess That's the best thing. That's the hidden secret of the whole place right there. Oh Well, one of our local grocery stores is changing a little bit. So I wonder if we'll get any new

cottage cheese. Yeah, it's a very real chance you could broaden the market there. Expand our Western Northeast South Dakota cottage cheese offerings. Mm hmm. Someone this is homework for someone call a pizza ranch and find out where they get their cottage cheese from. Where do they source? Where do they get their cottage cheese from. Where do they source? Where do they source their cottage cheese from?

That's top secret stuff. We can't tell you. They're like, ah, another guy calling about the cottage cheese. Be like, no, there's like a press three. If you're calling about the cottage cheese, if you'd like to place a ticket, it's like the first option is where you get sent. If you want to know about the cottage cheese. No, when you call, when you call the order pizza,

it's like, this question is about cottage cheese. Press one. If you'd like to place a carry out order, press two. Uh, Espanol trace. That was all the Spanish I know. It's pretty good, very convincing. Not bad, isn't it? You could tell what I was saying.

I couldn't, it sounded so Spanish, I couldn't even tell. It's like when we go order when we're in California with Chad and Marissa or with Big D and Big Grant. It's just like that You want to hear some? What time do we got? Do we have time since we are a podcast you want to hear? Oh also this week's episode? I'm gonna end it with a special segment, so don't let me forget when we end this week's episode

There will be a special well can I say special segment on our list so we don't forget us Yeah, you can write special segment and we have to end the show with it or close to end of the show I want it towards the very end of the show so people listening live are not gonna get to hear it until it comes out in The recording but okay. We are a podcast you want to well no wait scratch that I want to move to this one instead Ohio gym tour tour update Yes, this wait scratch that I want to move to this one instead Ohio gym tour tour update. Mm-hmm. Yes This is more timely. I Want to give an update about our Ohio gym tour tour? It's still going on if you thought it's gonna be canceled that's not true it's still going on that's the update

It's gonna be Saturday May 3rd and it's shaping up to be a good one. Yep, through Monday, May 5. We have eight confirmed stops at this point in time. All of them home gym tours, all of them gym tours, at least I will say, there possibly could be nine, where there might be a ninth, I suppose if something wacky happened, there could even be 10, but I think at minimum there's going to be eight with a moderate possibility of hitting nine. Yep. And we will be in.

Indianapolis, Dayton, Toledo, Cleveland, Columbus, and London. I mean, that's the- Those are the stops that we have on the trip. That's just about the whole tour of Ohio right there. What are we just leaving out? Cincinnati, is that it? Yes, and we're not gonna make Cincinnati, actually. I guess we'll just have to go back again sometime, right?

And there are, we are, unfortunately, there's several places of people we talk to and as we're arranging this that we're not going to get to go to Mm-hmm. I would say of the eight confirmed stops. I Think six or seven of them are crew Yeah, so it is very crew heavy So not everyone not all crew that are in the area we're gonna get to go to just because of the time and logistics on this trip.

But rest assured, at the very least, it is very, very crew heavy. So that that part of it's pretty cool. And then on Monday, we'll be finishing up with a tour of lead FTS and then also being guests for our second round on Dave Tate's table talk. So that'll be pretty fun. The first one was just warm up for this one. That was that was just the warm up. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Yeah, that's the Ohio gym tour tour update. Anything else special about that? It's going to be jam packed. Our schedule is completely full. I don't even know. I said what we're doing. I don't know. I'm not positive that we can actually do it. But it is

Oh, you say eight gym tours should math but a gym tour is making laps around the state you guys gonna be there for like four days now there's like two and a half days. Yes. It's it's get up at 5am. Drive gym tour drive gym tour drive gym tour and then quit at about 11 o'clock at night and then just do that for two and a half straight days. Big love lady asked if there will be a pre-show on table talk well there is kind of a pre-show table talk but i don't know there is you know dave's big into the live learn pass on maybe we can pass on the uh the tradition of the pre-show to let him know what he's missing out on yes

um so yeah say too that's coming up really soon. Like, I mean, we'll be leaving in a couple weeks for that, which is wild. Seems like we've done so many trips lately and that train is not slowing down. And part of it, you're gonna really see that train, the new YouTube video that comes out by the time this episode's out, the most recent is the Efron gym tour

Oh, I just you edited it public. I got it a part of it. It looks good. It's good I recall I recorded just a little the very beginning clip and sent to Efron and Efron goes wow, that looks really good Oh, okay. So he did see that first minute. Yeah the first stuff you 40 seconds or whatever You just record the screen on your phone. I just did that and he goes all that looks good Yeah, yeah, it is. It's ends up being about 46 minutes long. I think but yeah, it does not and that's it's epic That's 46 without us going basically covering the plates at all. Yes. Yes, that's true It's an epic gym tour. It's way better than Brian Shaw's it well Yeah, it is. And for two reasons, one, I mean, I think we do a pretty good damn job of when we're doing this thing, but also it's pretty amazing in one year.

Brian's videos from about a year ago, from a year to now, Efren's gym has changed quite a bit. His plate, his, his vintage plate wall was only too high at that time. Now it's three high and just just you can tell all of the wall paneling he's changed and some of the backdrops and things. It just it looks really, really good. I mean, it looked good before, but now it looks really good. It makes me wish I could have a vintage plate wall like Efron someday. If only there was a way. Just keep on dreaming, buddy. Yep. Yeah, so do check out the YouTube.

But we talked about it before we kind of treat those. It's almost like when we do those longer gym tours, it's basically a mobile podcast as we're going through the gym. That's kind of how we treat that. I mean, we're talking specifically about their gym. We're not talking about cottage cheese and Ford Freestyles and we could. No one's stopping us. But but that's kind of the way we treat it

We're chit chatting as we go and it's should be fun. You know, I think it's a fun experience We're honest to God we're just have the best home gym tours We're not the best at everything we do, but we do have the best home gym tours. Yes, we do and I will fight anyone on the internet over that physically section physically assault Yes, we do. And I will fight anyone on the Internet over that physically, physically assault them. OK, do we should we do? What do you think about supporting our supporting members and.

Maybe just to hint at the title topic and we got to do this week's week sir, oh Training facility. Well, yeah, should we do that first? Then maybe we'll do that one first I don't know if you caught it not everyone watches on YouTube, but people asked for it I did put the image in YouTube. Oh, all right. Yeah on the YouTube video I did put the screen shot that we were discussing on YouTube. So if you watch it's right there You don't have to stop the video and go look it up. No, I didn't actually look at that. Let's see.

So where have we been on our last couple weeks? Well, we started in Florida. We went up to Coeur d'Alene. I feel like maybe the Midwest needs a little love. Always does. Fly states, my ass. Fly over states like hell, you say. I don't even know what that means. Fly over my ass.

What? OK, do you are you finding one or should I find I think you're finding this one here. I like the name of that. Let's see Milwaukee Lucky is that in California? Yes Okay, no parking zone strong man, what's the first details we got? Oh Big one picture to work with here. Yeah, this is big Katie the strongman strongwoman herself as Seen as competing at the 2025 Arnold Classic Strongman competition. Yes. So this is a garage gym, right? Yeah, I think I think it's a garage gym. We're dealing with there's a window. So I know it really gives the Midwest vibes the little

The little what do you call that thing the little fabric thing on the top of the window there? You know like almost the drapery yes, yes the drapery But the drapery does not match the carpet here because the carpet is horse stall mats in this garage Jim Just like any good carpet would be yeah Yeah. So she's got a lot. There's several horse stall mats there. Yeah. One, two, three, four, five, six, for sure. With at least six horse stall mats in this unit. Yeah. Which is a good number to get strong.

Yeah. And what was the official name? The No Parking Zone Strongman. Yeah, I've got a picture. I've got her. You can see her logo back there along the wall She's got her certified training Facility flag right next to that and I've got a sticker of that up on in Mastinomics gym All right. What what's she dealing with? We talked about the draperies We talked about the horse doll mats and then what's she dealing with equipment wise? We got an orange Nobody tell Keith we got an orange six-post rack

It is a rep rack. It appears to be So that's a five ace hardware. I can see the the west side hole spacing there great usage of drink spotters on there She's got a little she's got a rep bench in there, too. I forgot what that one's called It's the one that has the leg things on it. Yeah. And then the leg thing, rep bench. Yeah. It's the leg thing. She must have, does she have like a lap pull down? She has, it looks like some type of lap pull down

in the back of her rack. I don't know. Maybe it's like this, is it the spudding one? No, because look, there's the guide rods and everything. Do you see those back there? Right? And a weight horn too, it looks like on there. So it must be maybe some rogue integral rep integrated one

I forget what theirs is called. So that's cool. Good use of space. She also has a little landmine attachment on the front of the rack Yep, what else we see in here? Got a few different attachments laying around. We got a trap bar. We got some adjustable dumbbells both flex Yeah, is that what it looks like the both flex ones? I can't tell if that's what that logo is or not though Yeah, it looks like the stand up they maybe not both flex, but they certainly look kind of like yeah I got that same look got some bands on the wall and then we got some sandbags and axle and some crash pads Yep, the Titan fitness crash pads

She's got the crisp the original crispy boys banner. Oh, yeah, fitness crash pads. She's got the original Crispy Boys banner on the wall. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yep, that is the original, the OG. I think that, yeah, you can see your garage, overhead garage door where it would open up above the deadlift area there. Hell of a training facility.

What I want to know, Tommy is, could you get strong there? Oh, I feel like I'm getting strong just looking at this picture. I feel a little stronger than before we started the certified training facility segment. And Katie's no stranger to getting strong either, so we know you can. No, it must work for her.

Okay, so that was round three of our certified training facility of the week. In order to get featured on certified training facility of the week, number one, you got to have our certified training facility of the week. In order to get featured on certified training facility of the week, number one, you got to have a certified training facility. You can do that by heading over to massonomics.com slash certified certified or just go to our store. Yeah, go to our shop on our website. You'll see it. And then beyond that, you got to have sent us a picture. So if

you already got a certified training facility, but we don't have a picture of your gym, send us a picture, DM it on Instagram, DM it on discord. Send us one in the mail, I'll photocopy it and add it to photocopy it, fax it to myself, scan it and put it on the website. Yes. I could do it. You can DM it to massonomics account just DM it to the massonomics counts Big Andrew Montoya asked just yeah DM. I'll see it the soonest then I'll get it no matter where you send it But I'll see it the soonest if you send it to the massonomics account

In that same line, let's do a little supporting our supporting members Everyone that supports us. We really appreciate it. Supporting memberships are the number one thing that keep the Mastinomics podcast going. They've been continuing to roll in. Tommy and I were just talking about it earlier today. How awesome it is to see new supporting members continue to come in. I do, I mean, I say it on this segment every week, but I do think it's the number one way you can support us. And it's like the number one thing that really does keep the podcast going.

Yes. So if you are a regular listener and you haven't joined up yet, we'd love to have you do it. Head over to Mastodonmics.com slash join. One of the things we do, one of the many things we do is this segment where we give back so this week belt-fed big Chris They just opened up their brick-and-mortar storefront in Johnson City, Tennessee. So check out What's the website for belt fed belts? Is it? I think it's this isn't really about their website belt fed strength comm

Yeah, you can buy a belt from them get a custom belt get a stock belt get a pants belt You can get it all from them big Jordan Wong Competed in a powerlifting meet his lifts included an 804 squat No stranger to a big squat and then also a 418 bench I think that's his heaviest bench since tearing his pack Come back PR PR Big love lady who is listening along live

He had a six powerlifting meet he went eight for nine with a 474 squat 353 bench and a 573 deadlift all PRS 1400 pound total PR PR PR PR. Check, check and more check. Check, please Colton finished third place in the open heavy weight division at Omaha caveman classic strongman competition. So we I was wondering where that was at. Yeah, Omaha, I think. Big Daisy out in Australia, not close to Omaha, competed in GPC Vic States in Australia. Lifts in the customary units were a 260-kilogram squat,

165-kilogram bench, and a 285-kilogram deadlift for a 710 kilogram total. That's a 50 kilogram PB sticking with also customary units. Keeping it all foreign. Yes. Big carp had a home gym tour with big anon to supporting members. That's a supporting member on supporting member crime right there., so check out big carp's YouTube video on that carp This carp Carps Jim Carps Jim. Yep big Garrett posted his first YouTube video. It was a

Training vlog for his training leading up to the lift hard live easy classic three Training vlog for his training leading up to the lift hard live easy classic three We the ok podcast made it to episode 69 He's that's all really they don't have more than that. I think so. They're at 69 right now That podcast has existed for multiple years now and then the unpaid and underrated podcast made it to episode 100 and Big Gary was this week's episode on unpaid and underrated podcast made it to episode 100. And big Gary was this week's episode on unpaid and underrated. Good work, everyone. So thank you, everyone. Outstanding. Speaking of the

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I think it's time for that. Yep. Okay, I'll going to work on the title topic. I think we're going to talk a little bit about the trend or a rise of machines in home gyms, a little bit of a trend that we've been picking up on that we've been noticing Here more recently within the last I'm gonna say within the last six months with Len last 12 months Maybe asked 18 months could be 24 months It's some number between one and a hundred 24 months. It's some number between one and a hundred. Just not sure what the number is to be exact.

Yeah, so we're gonna talk about Machines in the Home Gym, what we've noticed, what we think about it. And for anyone that hasn't picked up on it, when we do these title topic episodes, we are not talking about the title topic for the entire episode. It is a piece of the Mastodon mix podcast. That is the way that we intentionally do it. You might be tuning in because you saw

this title that has something to do with machines and home gyms. And you're like, Oh my god, it's almost 40 minutes. And they haven't talked about it yet. That's what we do. That's what we're going to continue to do. And's the way we like it and it's our podcast so you can just frig off if you don't like it I mean I would rather you didn't frig off and you just kept listening to more episodes uh but that is kind of that is the idea our podcast is a lot of us about talking about silly stuff and then we're gonna have a title topic which we're not gonna spend the entire episode talking about it's just gonna be a

piece of the puzzle and we'll put where insights on that and we'll probably weigh our insights on 15 different things every single episode But one of the things will be the title topic. It's just the way it is we can't we're not in control here That's just the way it is. We can't change this Did you see the comment of the guy recently this week that was A most recent guy that wanted timestamps. Yes, I did see that and I'm not really against time stamps other than just the joke of it at this point What I had to look at because people might not know this do you remember there was I don't know Maybe a year or two ago where YouTube was putting time stamps on our videos for us automatically, right?

right because that is an actual that is an actual thing. YouTube has an auto timestamp feature and I looked because I was just curious why that went away in the first place and I don't know why. The auto timestamp feature button is on by default on all videos. It's never been turned off. I thought maybe it got turned off by accident. I had to Google around even find where that button is hidden. By the time I found it, it got turned off by accident. I had to even I had to Google around even find where that button is hidden By the time I found it it is turned on I do it a little more research from what I could tell people to say YouTube is janky sometimes it works Sometimes it doesn't if you have a copyright strike or anything sometimes that just makes it not work. I looked I couldn't find any reasoning so

Yeah, it's just the way it is And I don't care. I'm not. Oh, I don't have a principle. Anything against timestamps, but it's just fun. It's also annoying though, for us to have to go back at the end of all this and then right timestamp all of these segments. It's it's not how this show works. And what I thought was interesting about this guy, he wasn't being a jerk. And I'm not bitching about this guy. But his comments about how well, I don't think that's how,

you know, conventional media or others that produce things should go about, would go about doing that as, you know, making a title and then not talking about it for that long. And I'm kinda like, most importantly, I don't care. I do not give a shit what someone thinks that you know And then like his thought that you know, maybe it'd be more successful if you did that I'm like maybe or Maybe we are successful because we do the four, you know

Maybe we've found our niche of people that like what we do do right? I to me it's just hard because I don't consume content That way there's nothing that I consume where I want to hear someone talk about it, but I only you know, if I care about someone's opinion, I care about what they have to say on multiple things. There's just there's just no content that I'm a fan of that I only want to hear people talk about one specific thing on an entire show. Right. That's an odd I'd say it's impossible, but that's just an odd concept for me that we're we're not looking to get listeners to listen to 10 minutes of our show

either. Well, and also 10 minutes per show about 10 minutes of one gf knee sleeve drama like that's right. The the audience we're going after people that only and only care about that. Right. Exactly. so that's I Just think it's really presumptuous to assume you know not you like the commenter knows What we should be doing because he feels like he knows what other forms of media do and I'm like, I don't know dude We're the ones with 472 episodes of a podcast with a whole bunch of people that enjoy listening to it So maybe we know better than you there's also a lot of that

Yeah there's also a lot of podcasts that I listen to that the title is complete nonsense and the episode has zero zero Timestamps in it as well very commonly You have a you have an episode title that doesn't give you any clues and then you also have zero timestamps so by that metric that podcast would be a complete failure, which is not. And most importantly, it's our show. We do whatever we want. But do you think we're intentionally sabotaging it at this point? Or do you think we do things that we believe work?

Not even just to that guy, but as the years has gone by, it's kind of amazing how many people give you free advice over the years that for the most part turns out to that guy, but as the years has gone by, it's kind of amazing how many people give you free advice over the years that for the most part, turns out to be bad, wrong, or even the opposite of what is actually good. Right. And all you gotta do is just wait long enough, and it's like, oh yeah, that advice that that person gave you

where at one point you might've said, is that the right thing to do? And it's like, you look back and it's like, oh God, that would've been awful if we actually listened to that person. Like their advice was just almost counterintuitive to everything you should do. The other part about it I forgot and just remembering now he made a comment about and this isn't against this guy because it wasn't a mean-spirited comment. So I don't I'm just more speaking generally to people that comment this over over the weeks, you know, that we see this recurring.

And but he said something about our sponsors, you know, your sponsors won't like that, that you're not talking. And I'm like- That one was very weird to me, because what TimeSams do is let you skip past sponsors. Exactly. You have to listen to the episode then.

Yes, and it's particularly ironic someone commenting that to us, because our sponsors, unlike mostly almost any other podcast you listen to, are around for years, almost like half a decade in some instances. And people that we know personally and have actual relationships with, they're not just random ass sponsors.

Yeah, I actually have to think, all of our current sponsors right now, are we not personally friends? Well, almost all of our sponsors, we are personally friends. With the people that run it. Yes. And they know very well, like could actually

pull up the phone and hit call right now and probably talk to them if they wanted to. Yes. And I'm pretty sure they understand what the Mastodomics Podcast is about. Yeah, they know what they signed up for at this point. They haven't had any major. And a lot of their cases, I think this is a testament to being a sponsor.

This is an a sales pitch for potential sponsors listening, but we weren't friends with all of them prior to them becoming sponsors. They became sponsors and then they just became our friends because they've like we're in on it. We're like, hey, get involved in the community. It makes it even better. And then they do.

And then we're the, and then they're our friends. And then they, you know, I bet they don't sit there thinking, I really don't like the format of this. They think, ah, this format seems to be working. There's a lot of people really engaged with this. I'm glad they do it that way. It's maybe not what I would have thought, but it seems to be working.

Well, and we and again not to toot our own horn too much here, but we also know that some of our sponsors have been Compensated very well by being part of the master community over the years. Right. Rant over Was that the title topic or No, now we can start now we. Oh, now we start the title. OK, OK. I didn't know if disturbed was ending, bookending, ending the title topic or starting the next one.

I'm not really sure myself anymore sometimes what the disturbed key all means. All right, so this is the beginning of the title. Oh. OK. And we can officially say the title topic for this week is the trend and rise of machines in the home gym. Yeah, not like Terminator machines, but but maybe because you said the rise of the machines. That makes me think very sci fi, AI, dystopian future.

Okay. Not so future future, if you know what I mean. Nope, all right, we'll change it to the trend of machines in the home gym then. Or maybe that is the way the title, it's like the rise of the machines and it's like a prime machine with Terminator eyes coming out of it. You know, sunglasses on.

It's just looking for blood. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be back, but not until like 18 months because our lead times are so long I'll be back in 12 16 months 16 to 30 months and It I also cost like $7,000 And I will ruin you financially And I will ruin you financially.

That sounds pretty scary. I'm scared just thinking about ordering a Prime Machine. I will take a crazy amount of space in your home gym. For one or two movements. But I will be back. For one or two very isolated movements for typically small muscle groups. Bang for buck will be very low. As an accessory on some days of the week. At best you'll use me one to two days per week.

That's if you even like me after purchasing me for six thousand dollars. Oh God sounds terrifying. Oh My god is that Terminator horror movie gonna be it was supposed to be an action movie not a horror All right, so we kind of did we kind of did We just explained all the cons mostly We kind of did. We kind of did. We just explained all the cons mostly.

We kind of did lay out a lot of our feelings on machines in the home gym. But where this topic became a topic was we consume a fair amount of home gym media and whether that's through Instagram or podcasts or YouTube videos and also home gym tours, whether doing ones we've done or watching other ones. Just one thing we've noticed as time has gone on is people, it seems like they're moving more away from, you know, racks and barbells and dumbbells. Like those are getting less exciting all the time. And what's getting more exciting is your functional trainers, your all in

ones, your, your prime machines, like, or just machines in general. And you just start, it feels like you're starting to see more and more of this in. The gym. And I remember our in, in home gyms. And I remember the first time I told this to you, Tan, you're like, oh, I, yeah, I agree with you. It seems like you're seeing so much of this. And so we did just want to talk about some of the trends we've noticed with

that. Uh, some of the pros and cons, if there are any of either one of those, and, uh, just make people aware of what is going on here. So what's going on here, Tanner? Asta la vista floor space. Come with me if you want to train one very small muscle group in a very isolated pattern repeatedly for the rest of your life. Here's what the prime machine says. Quick, get to the wallet.

No, it's just Arnold. The segments just off to a bang and starting there really You know cuz it's so stupid. Oh, shit. Get kind of toasty over here. Oh, man, this genius shouts got me feeling some type of way. I think it's still I'm riding the pre show wave. It's the pre show high. Yeah. Oh, God. What was the question?

Why is Prime machines so expensive? I think it was just there's no answer for that. What are we noticing with home gyms and the in with machines and home gyms? Well, I think part of it is on these really long standing home gyms, people that have a home gym for a really long time. You maybe start to run out of things to buy. And as we know, for a lot of the hardcore home gym people, part of it's the lifting, you know, everyone's on a spectrum

You know, some people are really interested in the lifting Some people are really interested in the equipment and then there's a lot of everything in between where and some are inverted Yeah, some are inverted some really probably don't even really care about the lifting. It's just mostly the equipment You know, there's people on that part of the spectrum. no doubt. And I do think after you've had a home gym long enough, it's mature enough and you've bought in all the necessities, you start to be like, I could maybe buy a machine for my home gym, you know, like I'll drop whatever it is prime wants to take from me to using prime as an example,

you could buy other machines to mortgage payments. Yeah, very expensive. My house is. Yeah. Oh, so. That that's part of it, though, I think people get to a point in their home gym journey that they're just ready for something else. And you know, saying it more simply, they run out of other shit to spend their money. That's what I honestly think is the number one driver

of all this is, is it more effective for training a certain thing? Maybe, like in most cases, the best answer is maybe. It's not even like this resounding yes, it's a maybe. I really do think that at the end of the day, most of this is just the, just running out of shit to buy. It's just looking for the next thrill because once you have 10 barbells in a squat rack

and maybe a lap pull down or whatever integrated functional training we have, it's like, uh, kind of have everything I need to get strong, but I just needs, I got that itch, I got a scratch and that's where the machine comes in. everything I need to get strong, but I just needs, I got that itch, I got a scratch, and that's where the machine comes in. I do think that's like reason number one above all of them so much. Yeah. Practically speaking, I guess if you're,

depending on what kind of training you're into, if you're a bodybuilder and you got a home gym, I suppose you're more interested in getting machines, you know, if you're into general strength training. I would also say this though, like if you're, you just said if you're a bodybuilder and you got a home gym. I suppose you're more interested in getting machines You know if you're into general strength training I would also say this though like if you're you just said if you're a bodybuilder and you have a home gym I'd say if you're taking your bodybuilding seriously, you probably don't have a home gym like it can be done But if you really are taking a big ass home gym, probably Yeah

You either have a bang in home gym or if you're serious about bodybuilding you're just going to a gym where you can do actual body There's actually a lot of gyms aren't that good for bodybuilding stuff So if you're that serious about it, you're probably going to like a legit bodybuilding gym, right? Yeah, that's probably true I Don't know other justifications for it and stuff I think I think you do just I think it really is just the running out of stuff and wanting to get something else. You can get a different training stimulus. I mean, I buy machines for Masanomics Gym.

It is not a home gym, so it does not fit into what we're even talking about. Even that though, Masanomics went years and years and years with almost no machines. Because we care most about strength training, and for the most part part you don't need it Like if you're focused on the squat the bench the deadlift the overhead press rows strongman training any of that you can get really

Really strong and never work on a machine Yeah, 100% and Yeah, I don't even really have anything to add because that's just all there is to it there. Right, right. There's not that much else to it, I guess. On the con side, have we talked about a lot of that stuff, though, too, where it's just like, takes up a ton of floor space. Most machines do especially. And that that is, again, the

comments like for space per Utility right? Say is like best-case scenario some of these machines have two or three movements you can do with them, right? You know, it's best-case scenario. A lot of them have basically one movement you're doing with the machine I will say the one exception I'm gonna carve out here would be a lap pull down low row machine because at that point you Can use that machine as well when you have a high and a low point you can use it for You know lap pull downs low rows you can do different cable attachments to it You can rig it up in several ways and also like that machine doesn't take up that much space in the scheme of things

you know compared to a machine you get you got a Well, I guess that's a good point. That's what I would look at the value of any machine is like, how many real things can you do with it? The more uses it has. And I'm not talking about the advertised uses that the machine seller says about real things you actually that people actually do in the gym. The more of those, the more sense it starts to make, because I'm not actually anti, I mean if you listen to this so far, you'd say we're really anti machines in a home gym.

I'm actually all for personally people doing whatever the hell they want. We both say that. That's also the- You know if you have a ton of disposable income and a ton of space, like yes, buy everyone, get the craziest coolest gym possible. And that is at the end of the day our mentality on this is, yes, I buy everyone, get the craziest, coolest gym possible.

And that is at the end of the day, our mentality on this is, yes, do whatever the hell makes you happy, because I don't, I mean, you have a gym with 100 machines in it, I don't care, good for you, man, like, hopefully you can afford it. No big deal. It's probably really, really cool.

Yeah, yeah, and it's probably sweet. I would just say, like, especially if you're at a spot in your home gym where you're getting into this, like, let the machines be number, like a hundred on your list of immediate concerns. There's so many things that it's just, it's like the new shiny thing that yes, it's cool and exciting and all this, but there are some major trade offs with it. Right. Which we have discussed pretty in depth so far. But I think that's what you look at is like, how many different uses can I get out of this machine, out of this square footage that it's taken up?

Because like your cable machine, you know, your lat pull down low row machine, you can do, you do use, you do actually use it for a lot of different exercises. Yeah, and that's hardly, I'm not even like hacking it either. I'm just using different attachments in different positions and doing different exercises. Yeah, and that's hardly, I'm not even like hacking it either. I'm just using different attachments in different positions and different exercises. Where if you buy a selectorized curl machine.

Yeah. I could. There's only so many. Also, I hate, I do not like, I do not like the preacher curl position. That is not a position that I enjoy. Right, yeah, I mean, that's a whole other, yeah, yeah. Cause I'm using picking that

out as a pretty extreme like I was trying to think of like, what's one of the sillier home gym machines you could buy? And I'm like, you have that like a selector eyes preacher curl machine, whereas in a cool gym, commercial gym, bodybuilding gym, whatever, even just 24 seven fitness gym, pretty cool thing to have, I'd probably mess around with it and try it and stuff. But in your home gym, probably not a priority. Probably not. Yeah, you're giving up a lot of space and,

and money to acquire something like that. But that it that it part of the rise, I think, is the one thing that we say people's home gym have gotten so many more people with mature home gyms that are now looking for things. That's a big contributor. On the flip side of the coin, or the other side of the chain,

I guess is what I would say, is equipment manufacturers that notorious not notoriously, but are well known for making home gym equipment now maybe marketing some things and They're also more mature and their equipment, you know They're exploring other things because they've already made all the table stakes items and sold those. So like, what else can we sell to these people? Yes, and I think that is a big push of it too. It is just the marketing of the industry right now. Because like you said,

we weren't necessarily in the home gym space, but just watching the way from, when did Massonomics Gym start, 2014, 2015? Right. Just watching how barbells and racks and that have changed since then and specialty bars. I mean, your options are damn near limitless now compared to even the early days of what were

what was available. And you know, you just go online and buy it. You don't gotta like call some guy or place an email somewhere and ask for something like the bars and racks and all those things are so easy to come by that these companies have moved on to what is the next thing? What's the next thing we can do? And that is where a lot of the marketing and advertising and sales dollars are going into.

And even the R&D dollars are going into the machines now. And just because that's where those are going doesn't necessarily mean that that is I think it's easy to get confused like oh Rogues pushing this or reps pushing this or this company's pushing this like this is the next thing that I need and it's like No, that's just the next thing they're pushing It's not necessarily like the missing piece that you needed or anything like that, right? Cuz yeah, I'm like 2005 or 2010 or probably even 2015 like 2005 or 2010 or probably even 2015,

Cybex or Hammer Strength wasn't making designing equipment with a thought that it's really enough in a peony-hot gym. No, those are like commercial gym pieces of equipment, but now with companies like Rogue, Rep, Bells of Steel, I don't know, name 100 other ones, Prime, Prime that are making equipment like, I don't know, name 100 other ones. Prime. Prime. You know, that are making equipment like, no, we're making this and yeah, it could sell to a commercial gym,

but like, maybe it could sell to a home gym user too. You know, like that is actually part of their market now when they're designing, selling, marketing it. You get line away at 18 months like the rest of them, buddy No cat sees Yeah, so that's I don't know that's about it isn't it what else do we got on that Uh, yeah, I think that's about it machines are machines that you want for your home gym right now Well, it's also okay. What do you consider?

That's what I was just a broader thing. What do you consider a machine, right? Typically when I think of a machine need to have moving parts, I think of something with moving parts But also I think of not just moving parts as far as adjustments like moving parts as in like the movement That you're doing moving in the movement. Yes, and typically I'm thinking. So a glute ham raise, glute ham developer is not a machine. I don't really think of that as a machine.

I mean, I could very easily understand how someone would say, well, that is a machine. I could 100% take that argument, but actually what I would say the biggest differentiator for me. I think it has to be black and white here that we decided today. Right, that's, I typically think a machine

has something that is plate loaded or select rise. Like that's maybe my bigger definition of it. That's probably typically think a machine has something that is plate loaded or select rise. Like that's maybe my bigger problem is the best way to look at it. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's there's quite a few things and objects that you can use that revolver on body weight. But like it like a back extension. I don't consider that a machine. We kind of screwed up and forgot to define it at the very beginning of the title. But I think most people if they thought about it would kind of come to that same conclusion

I think that's the right I think that's the best description is that it's either plate loaded or select or eyes What are the exceptions leave a comment down below? What do you consider a machine and? Tell us something that debug that That bus are the theory that it has to be plate loaded or selectorized. I'm trying to think of what anything machines because and so again, we're not cutting anything in a rack like a squatting that's sort of obviously a machine. Right, right. But yeah, like you could maybe make the argument for for a GHR. I could

see that argument. That's not what I conventionally consider. I wouldn't either because that same thing like a back extension, you know, you wouldn't call that a machine, would you? What about reverse hyper? See that's what I loaded. It is plate loaded. It does take up quite a bit of space.

I mean, I could see that a machine I could see that. I mean, for whatever reason, I actually, the more I think about it, the less I can explain it for whatever reason I actually the more I think about it the less I can explain it for whatever reason I almost don't think it is but in comparison to everything else it almost has to be yeah I think it's just because it's so not a typical commercial gym piece You know if those were in every commercial gym you would go to you just be like well Yeah, that's part of it too is like what you perceive as a commercial gym You know like what you relate to being in a commercial gym. Yeah, I think that's part of it

You call Smith machine a machine. It's right there in the name. It's interesting, though. I mean, I guess you have to it's in its name. It is plate loaded. It is on some fixed paths. Uh huh. No, it's not. I mean, it checks all the boxes, doesn't it? But although, because of its striking resemblance to a squat rack and up and like it Literally being a barbell. It makes me feel like it is slightly less of a machine

right, ultimately, I think I have to say yes it is because it's If I'm saying it's not it's a complete freaking anomaly and you can't explain why Got feeling my gut feeling tells me it's a little not machiney, but overall I guess it is, it has to be. I think so, I'm trying to think of what other machines, yeah, so many of them are just the generic things of like the hip adductor, you know, things like that, which obviously are leg extension, leg curls,

obviously machines. Hack squat and leg press, those are machines, right? Yeah, those are machines That I mean, yeah, I think those are machines What's the frickin cape not a cable crossover like a functional trainer functional trainer, I mean that's machine that's machine Here's one to think about that's funny It does fit the definition but it's funny to think of this as a machine is the hammer-strength seated calf raise That is a machine, but it's funny to think of that one for some reason in my brain doesn't really ready

Yeah machine But it is at the end of the day because something standing one stand I'm like all the standing ones obviously a machine right a standing selector eyes the one You know that's like also another classic trademark of a machine is, is there a seat? And yep, the seated calf raise has a seat. That's another... Maybe it's not really just one thing or not. There's a series of things you check and the more things it checks off,

the more likely it is a machine. Like if it's checking sick, like the hammer strength seated calf raise has the seat late loaded To really important is it from a company that primarily serves commercial gyms. Yes. Yes So it's got to be a machine. Yeah Yep, Smith machine. No seat. No seat. That's probably where it's getting the pass on you is yeah, there's no seat there Yeah But a leg press and a hack squat feel less machine II to me

I know I I say that I will say they are machine They feel far less machine II to me than a leg curl and leg extension I agree leg extension are quintessential machine. It is the like a leg extension is do you like doing leg extensions? Well, I do them three times a week. Oh, you probably have to. Yeah, because of the I'm doing single legged leg extension. Did you do those before, though? Did you ever do those before? Well, there was one other time before that I did them quite a bit for pretty consistently.

Also, so outside of blowing out your knees, have you ever done leg extensions regularly? I mean, yes, I have done them I can't say that I love them normally but it is something that I have rotated in and out I like a leg curl a good leg curl better though Oh, I take the leg curl all day a leg extension to me just never I don't know I mean I did you can definitely get stuff out of it. I just it didn't seem like It just didn't seem like the movement. It was too isolating. Maybe I don't know. I mean, I did you can definitely get stuff out of it. I just it didn't seem like It just didn't seem like the movement. It was too isolating. Maybe I don't know. I just didn't I never liked a leg extension that much Yeah, I can see that when if somebody says that I would have a hard time arguing against it

But right now it's one of my I use them pretty religiously. So Big leg extension given the circumstances. Okay. Anything else? What do you think? What do you think on the trend of machines? Do you think it continues to be more machines and home? Well, what I think is the trend though, what I think is interesting about this one is with specialty bars or attachments or racks and all that stuff. Either you had to have them or they were easy to add additional items into your gym. They're relatively inexpensive in the scheme of things. The thing about machines is like we were saying, they take up a ton of space. You probably got to assemble the damn things. They're annoying to move around. They're really expensive and

they're kind of single use. That's why I just have a hard time seeing them taking off. Like they will always be a part of the home gym space, but I have a hard time seeing them ever just being a big part of the market. And I could clearly be wrong here, but if you're to say to me, what seems more exciting machines in the gym or things like Voltra's? I mean, I'm taking the Voltra route every day. That seems way more exciting just because of the space and versatility over a machine. But is the Voltra machine? I said it's a thing of its own.

It's a computer. Yeah. I mean, it is more of a computer than a machine. Yeah, yeah, it's tech. So that now that we've kind of really defined pretty our system of defining what a machine is, is there any machine that's on your wish list even for a gym? Well, I mean you could say I have a machine with my lat pulldown. It has a seat, you know, it's but is there but any that you don't have then that um I actually don't think you know The one I've talked about is a GHR, but that's I think it's a machine. That's yeah debatable as to whether that's a machine or not I

I don't even know what I'm not getting a leg curl leg extension machine. Like that's not on my list. I'm not gonna add Here's a good one. Is the rogue rhino a machine? list. I'm not gonna add. Here's a good one. Is the rogue Rhino machine? Guess it is kind of is by this metrics. I could see myself wanting a Rhino someday. But if it if it's an attachment onto your rack, is it a machine? If it's if it's a drop in a rat if it's a rack mounted Smith

machine, is it a machine or is it a rack attachment? I think rack attachments are a separate category of home gym equipment. Yeah attached rhino or an attached Smith Attachment are those machines or is that just an attachment for your rack? That is a good point. Ah, well to me also part of a rack. It's not a good point. It's just a Yeah, I mean you have an argument but I would also say to me to be a true rack attachment There also has to be some level of can you remove this thing in less than an hour, you know and Right, you know like a j-cup attachment all day. Yeah Matador

Yeah, yeah, yeah drop it on your good some of this other shit that requires all this setup and clearing out of spaces I'm like, yeah, I guess in the literal sense it attaches to your heck but outside of that We basically have a machine here, you know, yeah Someone in the comment section below on the YouTube count How many times we've said machine and give us that number on how many times we say machine this episode. You even started machine to even started to use the term machine, which I was not before this time. Made it up just for the sheen.

He just for this title topic. Uh, so I think that's going to write up the roundup, the title topic. And you know, the end of the title topic is always signified with this That's your wallet when it sees you pulled the prime website Don't hit me again in 26 months mommy I like that. Well, this is a podcast. I alluded to this earlier.

I just was. Looking up some podcast statistics this week, and yeah, for not not things that we've never talked about before, but I just want to revisit some of these things. So some of this take it with a grain of salt. I'm not going to take these to my grave that these are absolutely perfect metrics, but it are things that I found and they seem to make some sense. But four million podcasts have ever existed, not active, but just have at least like publish something ever in the history of podcasts for me. Okay. Is this yeah, is this considering?

Do you know is this? Considering things posted to an actual podcast feed or yeah, this would be podcast feed I don't think it'd be like if something's posted on youtube, but not somewhere in the audio only format You know, so so yep. Yep. Okay. I'm following you then. Four million in the traditional sense we're talking. Yeah, in the traditional sense of the word. OK, four million total ever made. Yeah, that's a lot. That is a lot.

I number doesn't seem crazy to me, though. That seems what's your guess on active. Oh, God. Now knowing that if there was four million, I will define active as have released an episode in the last 90 days in the last three months It's pretty loose on active right there, isn't it? Yeah, that's very loose on me. That's generous Ah, that is I'll say that's generous active God to me. It feels like there's so many podcasts out there has to be at least a million active

But if there's four million total that would mean 25% of them are still going, which seems like way too high. But if I were to say a half million, there's only a half million active podcasts, that number doesn't seem like enough. 600,000 active podcasts. Nailed it 500 to 700,000. Currently active. OK, exactly correct. You couldn't have you couldn't have got it more accurate. Just a great smack dab in the middle.

Yes. But you know, I know my industry. What can I say? Yes, that is exactly accurate. OK, so then the broad the broadest category that we fall into probably is health and fitness. Mm-hmm Do you have any idea how many? Health and fitness podcasts there are That's got to be one of the bigger categories probably This is active health and fitness podcasts, I think it's active yeah

But I kind of is there 80,000 30 some files. Okay, there again. I don't take these right. I think it's a little tricky to yeah It's a guesstimate always but right I could see that that would make sense still more specifically We're in the fitness category those there are fifty five hundred of. So we're in along with fifty five hundred in the fitness category. And we do of all fitness podcasts consistently rank in the top one hundred of as we should podcast.

Usually most of the time on typical rankings, we are in between 50 and 100 for fitness podcasts where we rank and depends on the Ranking site and what they're ranking and all that but pretty consistently and actually chat GPT agrees We are consistently as one of the top 100 fitness podcast. Oh hell yeah. Yeah Okay, here's maybe a couple of the more interesting things that I we've we've mentioned this before in the past but how many podcasts of All of them that ever existed have less than three episodes what percent all is isn't it It's like 75 percent of them or something like that. They're well. Yeah, we actually get to that

The first statistic is less than three episodes at half of them. So one or two episodes. Yeah, 44%. Yeah, less than three. Yeah. What percentage of them have fewer than 10 episodes? That's got 175% is 73% fewer than 10 episodes. So if you've ever made a podcast and made it beyond 10 episodes, you are in the top quarter of the top 25 percentile. Yeah. So you're you're in the top million, basically right there of all podcasts ever. Reaching episodes, 100 plus puts a podcast in the top percentile. I was going to say it's going to be one percent. Distance and longevity, the top percentile. I was going to say it's going to be one percent of consistency and longevity.

The top one percent. Oh, yeah. I did try to over here. Find what? Making five hundred episodes. That's got to be what you're coming up. They say most estimates suggest it's around. Point zero five percent. Yeah, not half of her percent, but point zero05 percent. Yeah, yeah.

Not half of a percent, but.05 percent. So essentially a group that is just absolutely fractional. Just like a rounding error. Yeah, yeah. Yes, a 20th of a percent. Wow. Yeah, when you think about it that way, those are some pretty crazy numbers, actually. Yeah, it is interesting.

I mean, we kind of knew all that stuff that we've seen it before, but apparently hasn't changed. That still is that rare to put out a podcast and even just ever make it past 10 episodes. Uh huh. Yeah, I made it past 10 episodes nine years ago. God, we're so good at this. Oh my gosh. Unpaid and underrated made it to just made it to 100 episodes. They are now in the top percentile of podcasts that have ever existed as far as at least as far as consistency. Obviously, listen to them.

Proofs in the pudding. All right, that wraps up podcast statistics. What other highlights do we want to hit on this? I got a cool one. If you listen to this show regularly, you know we're fans of MacroFactor. It is my favorite food logging app. I love it. Discount code Mastinomics.

Yeah, Discount code Mastinomics gets you an extra free week on your membership Also, if you're gonna sign up use code Mastinomics and then buy a year, I think he years like $70 What are you looking at there five dollars a month basically It's I've this is talking last week about how I'm I'm hitting It's I've this is talking last week about how I'm I'm hitting basically all-time rep PRS my lifting is going incredible and I do give Some of that credit to macro factor without a doubt. This is the best my protein levels have been in

That my overall diet has been in check as far as hitting my macros and it is a because of macro factor a hundred percent That that is in line, but I do use the app every single day still. I've been going since August. Really only taking a few breaks for like, for doing crazy, massonomic stuff on the road. There's another part of the stuff going on. I'm not worried about it, but use it basically every day. When you use it every day, it's pretty easy. Your normal foods are in there.

You can just go to the day before, copy paste things, or when you just start typing things, it knows what you do use a lot of and it pops right up. So once you use the app a little while, it's really easy. Really only takes a few minutes of your day, if even to get your numbers in there. But they did just release something. It's in beta right now.

I think most people should have access to it in the app if your app is updated. And I thought this was really cool and really interesting. And this is, I think the name they're using is MacroFactor AI. They have a blog post on this. But what you do is you can take a picture of your food with the camera and using AI, large language models,

to look at this stuff, machine learning, it processes what it thinks that food is and creates a thing for it. And I did a little testing of my plate. You know, I went like the other day, I had a really simple lunch of basically chicken, rice and some veggies on there. And you know, I weighed them all up beforehand, you know, like I do every day. So I knew exactly what my things were. And what I thought was really interesting is that when it saw that stuff, uh, it saw, or it does the whole thing and it, it, it put it into what they thought their summary of was. So they put like stir fry rice is what they put down for the end of the dish. But then in it for the ingredients, they had chicken, they had sesame oil, cause that's what they figured it was fried in. They had rice and just all these extra ingredients that I typically wouldn't put down, just because they're so minor on some of the stuff.

But they did it and it was off the one I did. It was actually pretty damn close for what it surprised me for the food kind of being piled on. I didn't have it portioned out. I had it just piled up, but the first one I want to say Let me just Before I say crazy insane numbers here. Let me look what the actual Calorie breakdown on that meal so yesterday. I had my lunch it was it says 688 cat or 680 calories 70 protein 11 fat 77 carb and that was rice chicken

The Kirkland Normandy style vegetable blend, Japanese barbecue sauce and a little cottage cheese to wash it all down because of course. And I had 680 calories there. I believe macro factor, it came back at like 570. So it was off by about a hundred. And then the macros were off a little bit too. You know, I had 70 grams of protein.

I want to say MacroFactor came back at like 55-ish and then it went a little heavier on the carbs. It thought there was more rice there. But to be fair, I had my food just basically piled on together like a stir fry. Like it wasn't portioned out, which if in theory you would think portioned out, it would have a better chance to actually process,

see the foods, get a better idea for how much is there. What I'm saying though with all of this is it's passable. Like that's if you're on the road doing crazy stuff and you just need to be in the ballpark. Dude. And you just want to do it quick. So how long does it take then? Just seconds? You open it up and take a picture of it

and it spits it out and it puts the ingredients there. And if you know what they are, you know, you can, if you say, oh no, this is clearly more than two ounces of chicken here, you can adjust that as you see fit. But it puts them all there. And I actually thought this was a really, really cool addition to the app. You know, this isn't just a sales pitch.

Like we were saying, you can use code Mastinomics. It does give us a little kickback on it, but I actually, I really do enjoy the app. I like it when I see apps that people are continually investing in and putting more effort into and This is one of those things where it kind of feels like all the future is now like this is crazy stuff going on Well, there probably are also other apps that have that capability probably maybe The standard though no and the selling point back to macro factor though is how good they are At the existing stuff. They're already doing this is just like a cherry on top sort of thing Is what I would say from just from what I've seen of it

I still haven't even personally used myself, but just what I've seen and heard Our other other use regular users that talk about it So it's like you're just taking something that's already really, really good with a good interface and then adding that to it. Just giving it some more. Yep, all to make that $5 a month even more worth it. Little gas on the fire, so to speak. That's right.

So if you were on the fence, I would tell this to anyone, if you have not tracked your macros in the last few years and you even are remotely interested, I would highly encourage you download the app and give it a try. You would probably be surprised what you would learn about your diet and your eating habits doing that.

And then if you're looking at ways to make it easy, this picture thing, it's not gonna be as accurate just because it's the computer trying to take some guesses, but it's another thing that can make things a little easier for you. As you were explaining the macro factor thing at one point in time, I just started to think again about how you said the get to the chopper thing about private. And I started laughing again. Because what gets the wall.

So that was really funny, just going on and on about. Yeah. I did have one follow up machine thing as long as we're it's a machine. There's a arsenal strength machine that I've been looking at. Can we recently the the lateral raise one, the lateral raise one the lateral raise one? Yeah. Right now there's a surcharge line item on the invoice from anything from I'm sure there's this company isn't alone and I'm not throwing them under the bus.

I get totally what's going on but there is a tariff surcharge. I've heard companies are doing this. How much do you think the tariff surcharge is I've heard companies are doing this. How much do you think the tariff? Surcharge is on the arsenal strength piece of equipment Okay, the weird thing about the arsenal one is okay. There's a couple things here. This would be my Just my limited knowledge first of all they are made in America, right? I Think so, I don't know. Okay, and I get it. I don't even know I don't get it

The tariffs are also on materials and all that. But also wasn't this a quick ship item, which means that in theory they should have these items built in, in stock. I get it if it's okay, you're going to order this and yet it's going to get made in the next few months. But I thought that item was a quick ship one. Um, but I guess maybe they're just cranking them out every day and their prices have already gone up I'm not faulting them for it. I like people have been saying this is gonna hit across the board and it's right obviously happening Okay, was the machine

3500 yeah something like that Is it a $300 surcharge? It is not 300 600 it is not $300. $600? It is not $600. $1,800? $800. No, $800?

Yeah. God. That's a lot. That's a lot. So I won't be purchasing that anytime particularly soon for an extra price point that I was already like, damn, I don't know, maybe some that's a 25%. I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a lot on that. Yeah. I mean, it's already very expensive. So you take a percentage of something that's already really expensive. And it's another big number. But that the crazy part is that's a married made in America product That's not some subjected to these hundred and forty percent or whatever the number is on this day of this time Wow, that's wild. So that's a real-life example at least where That's not insignificant. I mean that is that is That is at least for me now enough to be like yeah, I'm not buying that okay

You know like literally like maybe I'm gonna buy that too. Yep. I'm not buying it so because yeah Oh, yes, that that's already. Yeah, that's one that just takes you out of the equation for sure I think what's interesting here is so I have it. This is the first time I've heard of someone encountering the tariff line item because I have heard of listening to podcasts and things of people talking about how this tariff line item is going to become more of a thing because companies like it because they can say, it doesn't look like, oh, we just arbitrarily raised our prices 25%. Oh, yeah. And I got that right away.

They have a thing that they can blame it on. The thing I also kind of like about it, though, is when you bake it into the price, it just feels like, well, this is part of the price now for where where now it's if tariffs go away, you kind of have to be like, or if tariffs go down, you have to be like, why is this tariff line items like it's very directly tied to that. So it's harder for it to be like, well, COVID happened and everything's just 30% more expensive now, you know, like, cause there wasn't the COVID fee built in on things.

So that, I don't know, maybe I'll be regretting this, but as of right now, I don't mind that tariff fee line item because it does feel like it's more temporary. Right, that it's, should be able to be backtracked then accordingly what, you know, at some point in time. Yeah, cause right now the repons, you know, we were talking about, right. I've talked about this last week. How, you know, the ones I don't have a thousand and they're now they just say

1300 well, if tariffs somehow this deal gets worked out, do you think the price of those will ever go down? That's like in their life right now, it's just ever be lower than what it is right now. That's a good question because if they still, if they're just still selling, why would they be like, well, we don't even need to back this down anymore. And then, like most people aren't paying attention,

aren't price checking those all the time. So let's say in 90 days they do reach some negotiation and prices go down, then, you know, it's rep like, no, screw it, we're still just selling these. They're just sitting at 1,300 now, because that's when you don't have that tariff line item You can you can do that Yeah, it will be interesting though

It does suck though. It is unfortunate. You know, yeah that The markups are here. Yes I'd mentioned finishing the show with a special segment. Yeah. Are you interested in a special segment? I mean, I can hardly contain myself. This little game I like to call overrated underrated. Are you? I think I remember this game. Yeah, I forgot we used to play this game, to be honest.

Every single episode for These couple hundred episodes Pretty long time yeah Overrated underrated it's pretty simple You've got your druthers to elaborate as much as as little as you'd like on each topic, but ultimately there's no Sitting on the fence no riding the line, no two asses, one horse, one horse, two asses, any of that. It's got to match up to horse to asses and ultimately decide if each one is overrated or underrated drive-throughs

Rest fast food drive through fast food drive-throughs the drive-throughs drive-through experience or Utilizing a drive-through I would say maybe well Because when I think of this I'm to the point where damn near all fast food is overrated to me now. It's so expensive. It is so expensive.

We used to be a proper frigging country. We used to. We had a dollar menu McDonald's. Yeah, dude, dollar menu in high school. A dollar Mcdouble, like a proper frigging country. It's fast food food is so expensive. The quality is so shitty. For the most part, The service is so bad

It's like everyone in those Franchises from the bottom up is like thug. It doesn't even matter anymore. We got the industry cornered Where else you gonna go like that seems like that's? Everyone's mentality in the entire organization And I'm just saying that the workers I'm saying like everyone it's's like, no, no, we got this. Like we've already, we've got this covered. So in that aspect, I'm pretty much of the mentality that almost all fast food is overrated. I'm not even saying this from like a health

and food standpoint. Like obviously we know those foods aren't good or healthy for you or have like little nutritious value, but yeah, drive-thrus. I'm not a big fan of like, there is a time and place for it. Yes, but it's usually in I Just if I'm gonna be in the situation, I would prefer to go in

Yeah, I would typically prefer to go in so I'm gonna say drive throughs actually are overrated What do you think? I probably agree. I almost have always annoyed every time that I go through because of the speed of the line and then I'm like, this is terrible. I would also love... Sometimes I'm like, if I'm taking my kids, I'm like, oh, this will... You know, I don't have to get them all out of the car and all back into the car and there's something to be said about that.

And you just roll the dice of am I gonna be in this drive through for three minutes or 30 minutes? Because that's also gonna be a problem. What I really don't like about drive throughs are the ones where you drive through, you go to the pay window. And they tell you to pull ahead.

You go to the food window and then they tell you to pull ahead. Culver's. Culver's is after the chat. Yes, and I'm like, that's not the deal here. When you said you have a drive-through line, you're committing. To me.

To that process. To that process and only me. Yeah, you're committed to the process of, when I come to the window, I don't leave until I have my food. That is the conventional drive-through process. When you go beyond that, I'm like, you, you broke the deal here, you did not. We had we all had an assumed contract has been ruined, and you have gone

against it. And when it happens, occasionally at places, you get a pass because there's exceptions to everything. When it happens every time you're then abusing the system and not Not not you're not abiding by the system properly. So this is just how Culver's drive-thru works I don't know if I've ever gone through a Culver's drive-thru where they just had your food ready No, so they're I hate to make exceptions, but I just kind of give them a pass because that's just how they operate Maybe there's something to that if they do it all the time, right? That's part of their business model now I will say the other day

We were out about in town doing some stuff and we're gonna go to the zoo some plans changed So we had to pull an audible and take the kids at the zoo so their event we were gonna go to was end up not working out and So because plans changed on the way, we're like we just got to go to was end up not working out. And so because plans changed, on the way, we're like, we just got to grab some food quick. And so what was on the way was a Taco John's. And it was like 11.30, so not quite lunch. We were the only car on the drive-through line

at Taco John's. We pull up to the drive-through window and they go, pull ahead. Like, okay, first of all, I'm at Taco John's. There's no reason for me to pull ahead. It's 11.30, I'm the only one in line What is going on in there? It's like where do I like? There's it's taco John's the only thing you do is put meat in a shell and throw the old

Cup there's nothing that needs to happen here. So I was taken back by that one. That was not not not how that should operate Okay overrated or underrated Those toy diggers in large sandboxes, you know that you think it's a digger in a park. They're probably pretty underrated. I remember as a kid. You probably experienced those before. I remember as a kid thinking that those were awesome.

And now actually, there was a couple of parks in Aberdeen that I knew had them and now that my kids are a little older and we go to a lot of parks in Sioux Falls that's like non-existent here I don't really I haven't oh you don't have I'm actually not sure if I've ever seen one in town now that I think about it to be honest the manor park in Aberdeen, we go to that one quite a bit. That one has it. We go there every day as of right now. They have like five of them.

Yeah, that one I always remember that one being there. And when we were there, when we take my boy there, he was like two. He was too little to really do it. I think he would like it now, but I don't think he's seen one. So yeah, I think those are underrated. Here's the problem with the, I agree.. Those are I always loved those as a kid the problem with those Like the ones at the park you're talking about specifically they and gets all dug out around them Well that but they all move so hard

Oh, no kid can sit on that and turn it or operate it I'm like my seven-year-old can't make it do any of the or operate it. I'm like, my seven year old can't make it do any of the things it's supposed to. I'm like, you have to be of a size that you're too big to use that toy, to use that toy. Are you saying because they're just rusted up, they need to be looped up? I guess, yeah, something like maybe it's a maintenance issue

or like, I haven't seen very, I've come across a couple of parks and they've all been so hard to move as of late that I'm like something's not they need to be very free flowing so that a little kid can gotta live in making work get out there when working properly those are pretty fun. Yeah, totally. Top notch park toy. Way better than little duck that you sit on and walk back and forth. That also is from the 1950s. you sit on and won't rock back and forth. That also is from the 1950s. Literally, in a lot of cases, the duck on a spring. Overrated or underrated cable attachments.

All right, so this is borderline, one of those other trends that's sort of taking place right now. And it kind of also feels like it's falling into this hype thing. Like what's awesome about cable attachments is for the most part, they're relatively inexpensive. I mean, there's most cable attachments you can get for under a hundred dollars.

A lot of cable attachments you can get for under $100. A lot of cable attachments you can get for under $70. There's even some you get for under $50. And there's not many things in your gym that you can get for under $100 and for sure under $50. So that's what makes cable attachments cool. And what they have going for them is affordability and novelty. They got that. You know, you want to change up the way something feels, change the grip, change the grip. But at the end of the day, it's kind of what they're doing is just changing the grip. And is the reason you're not getting strong because your grip's in the wrong position? I don't totally buy that on a lot of stuff.

And I think it goes back to the novelty chasing again. Again, do what you like, do what makes you happy, spend your money on what you wanna spend it on. Especially those don't take up very much space. And they don't, yes, they also don't take up much space either, which is, it's actually the Tom Jim Trifecta. Novelty, cheapness, and little space. That's what's incredible about them,

is that they do all of those things, but, and also makes them pretty easy to ship, and you know, ship affordably too. But I do think when I see the sheer number of attachments out there that get a little overrated, and we were talking about this not too long ago, and even if you want to talk optimal lifting, you know, we were at Dr. Mike's gym, a guy that his brand is literally

about optimal lifting and science based lifting the science and optimal optimization become a joke to some other people. Yeah, like some people actually hate him because of that stuff. And when we were at his gym We I don't even think was on camera. It might have been off-camera. We're just talking to him He even even brought up attachments how great it is He's like, yeah You buy these different attachments and it's like you've unlocked a new a new movement a new machine you've done something different And even when we were saying something he's like, oh, yeah, I just like to use like a regular lap pull-down bar and

Basically just like regular handles you know this is the guy that his business revolves around optimization and making everything perfect and actually competing in bodybuilding at one time and even he for the most part was like yeah I got like a few attachments and that's yeah that's about it yeah all right last one all the marbles. I was generally going to say gas station pizza, but I changed the mirror specifically going to say Casey's pizza. Uh, I okay. So Casey's pizza is good. Um, trying to think of the proper way to grade it because do graded against gas station pizza, do graded against pizza in general, degraded against gas station pizza, degraded against pizza in general, degraded against non-restaurant pizza. And that's hard to think of where this falls. I think first and foremost,

degraded against gas station pizza. And I do think for people that aren't aware, like Casey's gas station pizza is good gas station pizza. I think their breakfast pizza is really good. That's their claim to fame. I think that's what they have nailed down quite well is their station pizza. I think their breakfast pizza is really good. That's their claim to fame. I think that's what they have nailed down quite well, is their breakfast pizza. Was that, yeah, it was on the way to the Arnold.

We got a piece of Casey's breakfast pizza. And was that a Casey's breakfast burrito too? Yeah. I think both of them, we ate like, wow, this just seems like it's way better than it should be. Because I don't, actually the closest gas station to my house is a Casey's. It's a new one. And I have not bought Casey's pizza once

since I've lived here. And this has been a year and a half now. We do not buy Casey's pizza. But it doesn't do that. It doesn't register in my brain. No, me either. And I would not, if I went to someone's house and let's say they're having a party and they're like, oh yeah We're ordering pizza and the in Casey's pizza showed up. I would not fault them at all

I'd be like, oh sweet Casey's pizza like yeah, nothing wrong with that man. We've never done it in our house I haven't I I don't I think the only time people do that. Yeah, I think one time in Aberdeen We had some people over and we picked up Casey's breakfast pizza in the morning I think But yeah, that's that's not something we do either Yeah, I'll say it's underrated It I mean it does have a reputation in the Midwest for sure of being of people liking it But it probably still is underrated because at the end of the day it is gas station pizza. Yeah Good news Tommy.

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