Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 476: High Protein Food Tier List

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Finally, a tier list of protein foods that everyone in the world can completely agree on with absolutely no changes whatsoever! We can’t wait for you to see where heavy hitters like cottage cheese a...nd the chicken bake land. Don’t forget to become a supporting member as soon as possible. Build Fast Formula Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates! Texas Power Bars Get the Barbell that changed the game!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job. You make things better than they are in real life, I think. If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Welcome everyone episode 476 of the Masanomics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. We're all greased up and ready for the show show. 476 we've got actually now that I think about it let's see here we're gonna do a tier list and
Starting point is 00:01:02 yes yes it has been a while since We've done a tier list. Yeah. Shained is right. What a great way to put it. Shained. You know how long it's been? It's been one week since you looked at me. Been one week plus like 10 or 20. It's been several. Listen, Baron. Several weeks since you looked at me,
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Starting point is 00:03:35 takes a little bit for us to it's gonna take weeks for the first rotation but once that thing starts going Oh, look at that is frickin Yeah, then it's downhill. Yeah, and it's like we're shoveling all this coal into the steam engine, you know, it's gonna take a little while But and once these wheels of motion get its momentum You keep it's hard to stop at an object in motion Tends to want to stay in motion and that's what's gonna happen with this crew gift
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's a lot of logistics in this one a lot of moving pieces Yeah, but We don't know exactly when the line in the sand is gonna be on that yet, that more news on that to come, more details on that to come, but what I would say, I don't know, this is bold, but it might be the best crew gift we've ever done. I'm just gonna fricking say it. We don't even know the every specific yet,
Starting point is 00:04:21 and I'm already feeling like it's the best fricking crew gift we've ever done. I can't really argue with that. It doesn't exist yet, but I if it comes together. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty friggin sweet. So What I'm telling you if you're already a subordinate member great news you qualified You don't you have to do nothing else All you have to do is make sure your credit card does not expire between which isn't like a given So just to make sure you're taking care of that part of it. Right, otherwise, the rest of you,
Starting point is 00:04:48 your assignment would be become a supporting member because if you're on the outside looking in of this, if you like listen to the Massonomics podcast really regularly and you end up on the outside looking in at everyone on the inside of this, you're gonna hate yourself for the rest of your life. You will never forgive yourself for the rest of your life. You will never forgive yourself for this. Long side of history is a saying we might use there.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Definitely applies to this. And also, what was I going to say in regards to that? Not only having your credit card updated. Yeah, I guess go to mass9wix.com slash join. That's the main thing. Yep Yes, because we are the we're getting the gears rolling. We're starting to turn wheels and When we're turning wheels watch out This one is no joke other than the fact that it kind of is a joke like they're all the joke other than that
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's no joke Exactly. Yeah, what are you drinking over there this week Tommy? Oh, I have a Have a Kirkland grapefruit. Apparently they don't believe in using pample mousse as a term Really? What the boycotting pample mousse? Maybe it just sounds too too fancy. I got something Wild here. I actually hadn't even read this whole thing. You know, things just pop up in my fridge. And oh, yes, I'm aware. I think people are gonna like this one. This is a Waterloo sparkling water, lemon Italian ice guy
Starting point is 00:06:21 Fieri's flavor town. Can you read that guy? Fieri's flavor town. Oh Can you read that guy Fieri's? Some glares on that can but yeah, I see the flavor town Italian ice guy Fieri flavor town. So it's like Italian ice with like some burger grease or something in there. What's it's hair gel Bleached hair gel Wow, I'm I'm really curious what that is I'm I'm excited to try it. Nobody knows where it came from. The Fridge Fairy just put it in there and here we go now.
Starting point is 00:06:53 It's the fridge's secret. That is good. That's real good. Let me come back on one more taste here. Track those bad boys down. Mm. Wow. That's a four and a half.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Oh man, okay. God, you're gonna be feeling of missing out. That's fricking flavor town is right. This is such a flavorful, sparkling water. I don't believe that there's zero calories zero sugar It's just a diet soda. Yeah Hmm That's frickin good. Wow. Wow. Okay. Oh man, that's just packs a wall I'll go be on the lookout for that. I guess. Oh, we're gonna target after the show
Starting point is 00:07:42 I don't know if that's a seasonal item or what, but holy moly. They've probably been. Flavortown, no understatement. They've probably been aging and fermenting it since last summer. Oh, in the back seat of his convertible. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I'm Guy Fieri, and I'm gonna give you a delicious waterloo. Oh, what's Big Ryan putting in here? Hmm? What once he got sky fairies flavor town spiced mango sorbet, okay, these guys are unhinged What is Guy Fieri gonna do next he's no limits why the hell does Guy Fieri get his own sparkling water flavors and we can't What I didn't know he was a big sparkly water water evangelist and we've been banging that drum for years now. He ain't got no waters. I get it if he gets like his own cheeseburger. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:08:32 My God, leave the experts to the sparkling water game. Okay. Do you got a sack? I do, yeah. Oh, okay. I'm gonna say something else first. Do you got a sack? I do, yeah. Oh, okay. I'm gonna say something else first. Follow up, this first old business.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh my God, he's got another one. What one's that one? Guy Fieri's Flavortown Huckleberry Cobbler. Wow. Wow. Quite the flavors. We had talked about the Facebook groups and you know, we had a whole episode of where the title topic was talking
Starting point is 00:09:09 about. Yeah, just Facebook groups, online groups, how that whole thing like the, the monitoring, not monitoring, but like the people that like delete stuff, what's allowed as pulse essentially nothing. And had you noticed that? Big Keith the no wine cellar had been sharing some of our home gym tours You know I think like big you know people that are his friend. There's maybe some baiting to I like Kevin's right looking for some Videos of people touring great. I'm paraphrasing, but he was aiding it for someone to post Mousen obnox ones And people posted Mousen obnox ones. It was great. Yes, and
Starting point is 00:09:45 They have been deleting those. Oh, of course. Yeah, but I just want to reiterate it one more time That's not us posting it. It's not why are we coming under heat on this or no? No. No, I'm just like just a Drive home how I don't understand the rules even farther Keith is not, you know, doesn't benefit by massonomicating. Well, you can't say he's not affiliated with massonomics in any way. He technically is. Keith doesn't compensate it by massonomics. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:17 But really, he's sharing his friend's video about his other friend that we went and visited. And he gains nothing from it financially in any way, shape or form. It's, it's the whole thing. Uh, like we said, so what would be the reasoning to get that taken down? People in this group find this video interesting. Yes. Is it relevant to them? Yes. Is that entertaining? Yes. Is it high quality video? Mostly well done. Yes. Are we allowed to post it? No But so what's the reasoning that those would get removed? I that's my question Thank you. Yeah, I mean you can't post YouTube videos in there. Can you ever I thought the rule was I thought the rule wasn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:10:58 External links, but it was self-promotion. I Thought it was I thought it was no eternal no external loop links like hidden through the excuse or or no or no no self promotion which they use to remove me. Yeah, I get the no self promotion. Okay, I get that. But I just don't I mean, it's so rare. I just don't see like YouTube links ever. Okay, so there's just no external links allowed. That must be a rule. Well, but external links are allowed
Starting point is 00:11:28 because you can post external links to businesses stuff all day long, which is actually really funny. You can post links to companies that make stuff, like literally buying stuff. You can post those links. But you can't post. I think you can post those links. People will be like, hey, where do I get a set of weighthorns
Starting point is 00:11:43 for this and this? And someone will be like, here's the link. But then you can't post a video that shows gym stuff. Mad Cal says, you can't post any videos that might be financially beneficial to anybody. Don't ever for any reason do anything that anyone could ever take as self-promotional. I just wanted to mention there that certainly isn't self
Starting point is 00:12:10 promotional. No, they're still removed. No, maybe just the rule is, is the rule no. What I guess I want to know is the rule no external links at all. Um, here, you know what? I would actually love to know like, what it has to get back into this all again, but it just made me wonder again Okay, like what is the rule? Oh, it is. It is a great question. Okay, red It has usually like a sidebar where they'll put the rules for the group I'm not familiar enough with Facebook's rules
Starting point is 00:12:37 System if that actually gets posted anywhere Because now you actually do have me very curious like what are the actual limits of this, right? Because now you actually do have me very curious like what are the actual limits of this right? And let's continue. Okay. Yeah. Okay group rules There is only five rules which is pretty amazing that a group this big only has five rules But somehow everyone seems to break them no promotion or spam give more than you take self promotion spam and relevant links aren't allowed This isn't a marketplace Ninety percent of the post if it's not someone showing their gym, which is self promotion Right. I mean showing your gym is self-promotion. You're promoting your own gym, right?
Starting point is 00:13:08 If it's not those links it is just showing links of hey, where do I buy this? Hey, look, I bought this So again, it is self-promotion and a marketplace link. Okay, so everyone basically breaks rule number one right off the bat be kind and courteous Okay. Well, yeah, we follow that no hate speech or bullying. Okay. Yeah, sure. Sales not permitted. We do not allow selling in this group. Okay, whatever keep the topic on home gyms. Hmm Don't see anything in there that says you can't post other social links or external links or anything like it's not in the rules Which is pretty amazing that what is the interpretation? Other than I guess it is just individuals that run it and people can do whatever they want. Is that the reasoning then? Well is it the reasoning, no we run it and we just do whatever we want. We don't have to have a defined reason that that
Starting point is 00:13:55 would get removed. Which if that's what someone wanted to say I guess I would say okay that's... I would just love to know... Like just want yeah what the rules actually are I mean the first thing said this is not a okay. Okay, so this is hilarious If you go back in there learn more the very first rule Give more than you take in this group self promotions self promotion span and irrelevant links aren't allowed This isn't a marketplace the second post just in case anyone's looking for stall mats. They're 50 something in my area Here's a map. Here's the price and everything I mean, isn't that what a marketplace is is literally putting ads for product for people to buy
Starting point is 00:14:35 And then okay go down here's a guy doing overhead press, okay And then go down on anyone need a dumbbell rack Walmart has a great deal. That seems pretty promotional to Walmart Go down on anyone need a dumbbell rack Walmart has a great deal that seems pretty promotional the Walmart Yeah, all right, here's my rack what does everyone think aren't you like being self-promotional to your own stuff Really happy with my iron masters aren't you self promoting your own gym? Today's top toys rogue aren't you promoting rogue by posting that? So what I want to know is what Keith posting one of our home gym tours of one of his friends What rule does that go against? Yeah, or is there no rule and the honest answer is just no we just don't want you guys doing that
Starting point is 00:15:20 We don't want your videos in here, which that's, I almost wouldn't, I wouldn't complain if that's the answer. But I would just put it out there. That's like, make that a rule. Like someone, yeah. Like I just, just like, no, we run this and I just don't want your videos in here. Well, I guess that's fair. You did run it and make it.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And if that's what your answer is, like I can disagree with it, but I also am, I would, I also accept that. Yeah, I think to me that's the funniest part answer is, like, I can disagree with it, but I also accept that. Yeah, I think to me that's the funniest part though, and I think that is the rules, that you just can't have YouTube links, which is absolutely hilarious. That should just be a rule then.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I know, it should be out there explicitly, and maybe it is, but it's not easy to find if that is, because when I click the rules, it's not in there. But it is very funny, because the vast majority of the content, if it's not easy to find if that is because when I click the rules, it's not in there but it is very funny because The vast majority of the content if it's not on Instagram and the home gym space is on YouTube Definitely the the most quality content is on YouTube, but you can't acknowledge that that exists very young Okay Still grinds the knurling off my text. I mean you should just make a post. You're like, hey, can anyone put in writing the rules
Starting point is 00:16:25 of this group? Right, right, right. I notice a lot of posts get deleted every day. Can someone clearly explain what the actual rules are? Yes. Yes. Well, we already did an episode on that. If you want more, we did talk about that in some detail.
Starting point is 00:16:50 The tier list, when we get to it this week, the tier list is going to be a protein source tier list. Here's just a thought, not really about today's title topic, but not completely unrelated. You know how we had the chicken bake challenge at one point in time? Yes. thought, not really about today's title topic, but not completely unrelated. You know how we had the chicken bake challenge at one point in time? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It seems like things are brewing towards a cottage cheese challenge. Ah. Maybe the rules are a little bit different. I feel a little differently about that one. Yeah, no, I don't think it's the same contest. It's not the same contest. I don't think requiring someone to only eat cottage cheese
Starting point is 00:17:25 for a week is. That seems a little extreme. That is like the single ingredient cottage cheese where the chicken bake is different because it is like an encased meal, I feel like, of like different ingredients. But we have to discuss ideas of what the challenge could be because what I'm thinking is like,
Starting point is 00:17:43 maybe who could eat the most cottage cheese in one week or something like that. Like you can eat whatever else you want and drink what else you want. And like whoever eats the most, like then we pay for their cottage cheese for the week. Something like that. Something that's not dangerous preferably.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Big Jake says, I think my wife would leave me if I only ate cottage cheese for a week. Yeah, I don't think I want to encourage people to do that. But maybe to see who could eat the most cut of sheets for seven days or five days or whatever it is. So maybe we'll take, but maybe we'd have to take applications for that at some point in time and pre-screen it
Starting point is 00:18:18 to make sure no one's gonna do anything dangerous with their diets for that week. Other than eating tons of cut of cheese. Like we don't want them to get too strong in one week. Leave some gains for the rest of us. Yeah, or like it's the, you know, it's like the go cad challenge or whatever it is. And just say like, who can actually stick,
Starting point is 00:18:38 who can actually consume? I don't think the, I don't think the ask would have, it could be a gallon though, if it's too high. That's She's alive even a half a like who can who can eat? 44 ounces of cottage cheese a day for a week because what would that be two tubs two tubs? Yeah I don't think that's like easy excess. I mean no that's doable Yeah, like a tub a day is just very doable like that's not a challenge
Starting point is 00:19:01 That's I over half a tub you're just up as my tub. You're just describing like Tanner's diet at this point. Eating one of those a day. I wouldn't even I often do that. Yeah, I've been pretty close to half a tub a day lately. So yeah. Yeah, a tub a day wouldn't be a stretch by any means. I just want to revisit the cottage cheese challenge at some point. time here. Start to get people thinking about that. Yeah, there is definitely an opportunity there.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Maybe we take like three or four applicants again and find the defined rule. But I don't think the challenge is eating nothing but cottage cheese. That's a little intense. No, you got it. Because you'd be a little too low on carbs. That was the thing is the chicken bake had protein, fat, carbs. Like it had all three, you know, where the cottage cheese cheesy you're just getting a lot of protein and not a whole lot of anything else. Yeah, it's like that show. What's that one
Starting point is 00:19:49 called alone where they were they're out in the way you told me about it. You know where that guy finally kills an elk but it's all lean meat and he's actually wasting away because he always getting like, yeah, same thing with cottage cheese. You just start wasting away. You have unlimited food but you're you're starving to death. carbs your body's ready to efficiently yeah you're getting too lean this bodybuilders hate this one trick I got him well what do we want to do do you want to do a sack segment or yeah? Sure
Starting point is 00:20:26 Let's do that first. Oh, yeah, we got in there. We got in your grease sealed sack Well, I don't know if you remember not too long ago feels like a long time ago. We were in a little place called, Ohio oh Hi, oh Yes that place and while we were there We were showered with lots of hospitality gifts other things But one specific item we forgot to call out was our good friend big dr. Tati waffles
Starting point is 00:20:54 Hooked me up with one of these Beyond power vultra quick mounts that him and Darko had collaborated on now. Do I have a vulture? No, but Beyond power No, he doesn't. Is there anything we can do about that if there's something that could make a vulture appear quicker It does sort of seem like a quick mount is like got half the battle done right there. So I Can only we've done a dedicated review on those and also talked about Beyond Power vultures in like 10 Jim Who are actually on as a damn we kind of get almost gave them a free Advertisement in the table talk episode 2 when that comes out
Starting point is 00:21:33 People are gonna hear about that someone clipped this actually that since we started talking about Beyond Power vulture and DM it to Beyond Power vulture and say why the F haven't you sent? For Tommy's home Jim a Leon towards the end very end of the episode with Dave we start talking about he'd never heard of it And we're it's actually a really good conversation. Yeah, it was a really good conversation at the end I'm like God I gave them like a free sales pitch in there very big podcast, but Yeah, where's my where's my Beyond Power Voltron? Damn it? Give me one of those things this mount needs something to go at it I mean I could put
Starting point is 00:22:08 Can kind of fits in there I guess that for the time. Hey, that's not a knockoff drink spotter is it it's a really really expensive drink spotter, but They did make this product if you have a Beyond Power of Ultra I believe this quick mount system would be a very good item to add to your arsenal of equipment in the gym. And you get to support Darko and Dr. Tattie Waffles, both friends of the podcast. And both people with Mass Anomics Gym Tours too.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Did you see the most recent controversy as that relates to that thing that you're, well not to that one, but that Oak Club came out with their version of that same thing? as that relates to that thing that you're, well, not to that one, but that Oak Club came out with their version of that same thing. I saw that and people were upset. I couldn't, I didn't read enough into it. Is it just the exact same thing or was it different?
Starting point is 00:22:54 I wasn't really sure, to be honest. I couldn't say that I actually know any details about it. Yeah, so that's a. My interpretation of it is it's similar. Yeah. So, I don't know that there's anything proprietary about it either. I actually don't know that there is or isn't right I'm saying I literally don't know so yeah, I saw it's a very gray area with a lot of that stuff Yeah, I mean already
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, I mean obviously I'm always rooting for Darko and dr. Tati waffles. I guess I just don't know what mr. Big dr. Tati Yeah, you got a call out in one of Coops had a social poll. I think it was a post on social somewhere. I don't think that dr. Tatti waffles I think he said dr. Tat waffles. I think in one of ours, which I thought was even funnier that he got the name wrong, but Yeah, he also called out big carp shout out big carp in something the other day Yeah, he said Big Carp. He follows along in views. I don't think he really likes me, but
Starting point is 00:23:49 the carpet just a little livid in Coop's head. Rent free. Well, it's a nice sack that you have there. Yeah, things hefty, too. That's solid. Yeah. Let's see timing wise, I got other things here our tier list is probably gonna take a while So maybe I want to talk about more of this stuff beforehand anyways, so yeah, I
Starting point is 00:24:16 Had a little note in here about seats Yeah, and what I wanted to talk about is you know, we've probably mentioned on the podcast how we've taken like a hundred flights in the last 12 months, it seems like. And we often talk about how there's, when we get on the plane, we're always in zone 36. Like there's only like 12 rows on the plane and we're like, now boarding zone 96.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And it's like, how is there like more zones than there are even seats on the plane here? Right, and somehow it also seems like everyone is in that zone too. It's like, is there like more zones than there are even seats and somehow it also seems like Everyone is in that zone too It's like what are the other five what was the point of the other five zones because no one has in any of those besides First class and like what was the ordering process that there was eight different zones? I didn't really see eight Possible viable option. I mean, I don't honestly know like some of those one plane We were on was a three seater
Starting point is 00:25:05 It was a one in two seats and it's so that was the smallest plane I recall getting on where it was the joke when I when I walked through that To expand and it didn't I Honestly didn't think like the width of my body like even like if you were really fat Mm-hmm and really wide. I almost don't know you could get of my body like like if you were really fat and really wide I almost don't know you could get through that thing. I was tight Old plane to It was like what was it was that nine zones we were in zone nine
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah, but I mean did that plane have 20 rows maybe three people, you know, and okay So what's their five people a zone? What I'm getting to when we get on these planes there's so often someone sitting in our assigned seat Okay, people cannot I don't know if we've talked about this you and me talk about every single time. Yes I don't know if we've ever about this, you and me talk about it every single time. Yes. I don't know if we've ever gotten on a trip where people understand the diagram where when it says A and it's a picture of a window and B is next to an aisle. No one understands that, which is mind blowing. I just don't get how people don't get that.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And it almost makes you start to wonder, are they doing it on purpose because they want the other seat and they're hoping no one says anything It's very confusing and then also half the time you do that. You'll say oh you're in my seat They go. Oh, no. No, I'm in a it's the aisle. It's like no a is a right next to a window What are you arguing with me for man? You're clear. Yeah, I don't know but go ahead and that's to me to me, that's the rub, is the people that like don't wanna believe that they're even wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Like that they don't even, like that you're having to convince them that to even check, to even double check that they could possibly be in the wrong. So actually it was harder, I think, to get into this plane. You had to follow a lot more signs and do a lot more things.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like getting to your seat in the plane is the easiest part. And somehow that's the one that people stumble on. Yeah. So it reminded me of something. This week was big Dance Recital Week in Western Northeast South Dakota. Saw a few other crew there actually also partaking in Dance Recital Week.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And when I say Dance recital week, dance recital week is a week. I've gathered that because I've seen a lot of people now that people are of age of having kids doing that. You know, I'm not in that area. And I'm very aware that it's dancer side a week. I've just seen so many posts and photos of it. I've basically been living at the dance recital at the arc is what the building is called. But you know, also a big generally supporting member has also been there.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I think her schedule was like five out of six nights. She was going to be there. Actually, I was like three days, three of the dancing. Yeah. So I've seen these routines, everyone's routines so many times now. But that's not my point. My point is it's a sign seating. You, but that's not my point. My point is it's assigned seating You have to it's a big deal buying the seating for this is like getting tickets for one comp when uh When a concert releases tickets, and I'm not lying like it they come out at 7 a.m.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And everyone knows the date so is it on you have to where you buy them. It's online, okay? But you have to be to get good seats you have to be on the minute that they come out and people are like swarming it to get tickets and We got first-row tickets this year It was very you So the first yeah the first night we yeah, I made a we made a bot Yeah for Western Northeast, South Dakota, so the dance ticket bot. Yeah, for Western Northeast South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So the, we had six seats. We had A one through six in our section. So we come down. That's the top of the lineup. Yeah, we come down the aisle and it's, I'm there early and I just have, it's just me and my mom actually are there early because we had to drop, we dropped Annie off
Starting point is 00:29:03 and then everyone else came later because they didn't have to, you don't have to be there that early, we had to be there. You got assigned seats. Also you have to be there for like five, you have to be there like five hours early. Like, I don't know what for but yeah, yeah. No, like to get, the dancers have to be there.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Oh, the dancers, okay. Yeah, just hours early, you know, like they need to be there hours and hours before they're gonna go on stage. It's a mindset. Yeah. You should've danced before. You gotta flip the switch. Gotta be. hours early, you know, like they need to be there hours and hours before they're going to go on stage. It's a mindset. Dance before you just slip the switch. It's gotta be. Well, we come down to the aisle and we have one through six,
Starting point is 00:29:32 someone sitting in one, but there's just two of us. So I'm like, we'll sit in five and six. And I think that they'll get the message obviously, because they're a well adjusted human. Well, maybe she'll get the message. And also I'm like, she might just be there because it is the first row. Right. And it is like 30 minutes before the show starts.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Maybe they're just kind of hanging out. Got to get a picture or something like that. So far, I'm 100% on board with you. I've done the same thing. So I'm not thinking about it too much. But I do say to my mom there, I'm like, look at our tickets. We have, like, just verify for me. I I said I think that that lady's sitting in our seat She's kind of an earshot of me. She may have heard me say that may have not I don't but I wasn't I was just like
Starting point is 00:30:14 I think that that's I was double-checking actually is what I was doing I'm like we're in the right spot right like look at these tickets and it's like yep. This is our section. This is our row This is our spot So then I'm like, yep, this is our section, this is our row, this is our spot. So then I'm like, okay, well, she's probably doing one of those things I mentioned or whatever. Well, then it gets close and our other four people come, you know, my wife and mother-in-law, one of my other kids, everyone comes
Starting point is 00:30:36 and she's still sitting there. And I'm like, well, I've got my seat, so. That's someone else's problem. Every man for themselves. And it's still not that big of a deal because accidents for sure happen. Like people don't, you know, so that's not the point. I mean, A1 is kind of a confusing,
Starting point is 00:30:58 an odd number to get confused on. I thought this was a steak sauce. And my wife goes, oh, sorry, I think you're in our seat. And says it very nice, just like that, like, I think you're in our seat. And she's like, no. And my wife's like, oh, yeah, that's we have one through six. And she's like, no, this is my seat.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And my wife, like, I have the ticket. So I like handed it to my wife. And she's like, no the tickets so I like handed in my wife and she's like no We're section CL. We have a 1 through 6 and she's like, oh they must have something wrong and She's like I'm gonna have to talk to him and I'm like, do you have your was it? You know, do you say do you have your tickets? Yeah, that's an easy answer right there Yeah, your ticket and she's like doesn't want to get her ticket and I'm like, can we just look I look at it different section
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah, but she was like so Adamant and like, you know, she was so she was annoyed with us that we would even suggest that she might have been in the wrong spot and That's the was the rub to me. And then when she eventually realizes that, like we point out that she is in the wrong spot, there's no, oh, sorry, my mistake. She just leaves like she's going to check with someone
Starting point is 00:32:17 that she still thinks there's a mistake. Just leave. Yeah. You guys are planted just to ruin her night. And I'm like, really? Not even not even a oh sorry about that my mistake Yeah, you know it was not that it's not the making the mistake It's a very easy mistake to make like I definitely oh I saw someone sitting there. I wanted to double-check for myself. Yep Yeah, I would be checking that over 20 times if I had the ticket like am I really doing this right?
Starting point is 00:32:41 We're really doing this right like if I had someone's there so But it's the frickin attitude that I'm like word Yeah, people got it like people they just walked through life with this supreme confidence in every situation I'm like does it really pay to be that confident and that cocky about everything all the time, right? That's how a lot of people are and then to be wrong on top of that time. Right. That's how a lot of people are. And then to be wrong on top of that, like, that's another thing. Like, I, okay, I guess, yeah, if you're just that good and you're right all the time, like, yeah, maybe you start to get attitude, but then to be wrong about something on top of
Starting point is 00:33:12 it. And then to be wrong and not to be like, Oh my bad. Who's the guys? Like if that was me, I'd be like, Oh gosh, I'm embarrassed. I would be, I would probably say, Oh, how embarrassing. I'd make a joke out of it or something like that, you know, but to be like like I'd be like, oh man. Oh, I guess I got downgrade enjoy your seats guys Someone else is still wrong here and it's not me Yeah, that's out double down yeah That was it but I bring it up because it reminded me a lot of our airplanes. It is just like that.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It's the exact same thing. What do we think about a little supporting our supporting members? I like it. I like it. I think we'll jump into some supporting our supporting members and maybe why I do that, you should pull up the certified training facility. Good call. facility and start. We'll start looking at some we're going to have a certified training facility of the week this week.
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Starting point is 00:34:42 It's how you're going to get in on our big crew mailing gift that's coming up later this year that the wheels are in motion on. And it's how you can get shouted out in this segment like this week at the Ed Cone Cone Classic meet in Omaha, we had a flurry of crew members down there, notably Big Bryce competing in the powerlifting meet. Did you see what Big Bryce did in that powerlifting meet the little perfect little sweetie himself. Was it like 7.74-ish? It must have been, they were apparently using pounds
Starting point is 00:35:09 because he squatted 7.75, he benched 4.15, and he deadlifted 7.75 for a 1,965-pound total. Just good, even numbers across the board. Yeah, four PRs. Biggest total of the meat. Oh really then 35 pounds of the 2k thousand pounds. Oh, yeah, awesome Yep, that's right there. It's within reach Big Jake was there competing in the strongman competition with the heavyweights. He got third place I believe amongst the heavyweights at the Ed Cohn Classic. And it was a super meet where they would do,
Starting point is 00:35:48 they did the squat event, then a strongman event, then the bench event, then a strongman event. You know, they flipped a lot. That's a wild event. Yeah. Big Sterling was also there competing against Jake in the strongman, and I think he ended up with second place overall amongst the heavyweights.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It looks like Brig Brandon was in a picture with them. So he, I assume he was competing in powerlifting. He either was competing in powerlifting or they're helping. I'm not sure which one, but he was definitely there. And then big Lou was spotting and loading. That's how you know, you're in good hands when big Lou is spotting and loading. That's that is how you know, you're in good hands. big lose spot and load. That's that is how you know you're in good hands. Then we've also got big Eddie this week is hit a weight
Starting point is 00:36:30 scale PR below 300 pounds. He clocked in at two ninety nine point six for the first time in 10 years. He's a waste in a way. I'll be stage ready pretty soon here. He's going to he's definitely going to make weight this. Well, he's got a best packaged award to Defend to defend. Well when you don't come for a year, do you relinquish your or but I also don't know if anyone what? I don't know the best package right, you know, some of those awards rotate out. So You may still be reigning best packager
Starting point is 00:36:59 Big Kurt the Kurt Locker retired officially So can go out congrats on the retirement. Yeah, isn't he moving to Florida? Didn't he say yeah with all the old folks Playing cards all day golfing Big beard ham set a family PR They welcome big Wyatt and he weighed in at just over one gallon of cottage cheese I And he weighed in at just over one gallon of cottage cheese. Ooh, I can I can know exactly what you're talking about there. Yeah, I only number I relate to in terms of horse stall mats and
Starting point is 00:37:32 cottage cheese weight. Big Anastasia competed in the Maple City Classic improved her national records in the squat deadlift and total. Big Mikey was first place in the 90 kilogram weight class at the go pig or go home strongman comp. And big Zach is this week's guest on unpaid and underrated. Oh, also one edition. Yeah, what else you got? Big Luke has joined the BMW family. So Oh, quite, quite the accomplishment. Our numbers are growing out there.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. What was his in comparison to yours? It's the same car as mine. He just got the step up in engine size. So what? Is it a different series, or is it the same series? No, it's still the five. It's all five series, and the last two numbers denote
Starting point is 00:38:21 the engine. 530 is four cylinder, 540 is six cylinder46 cylinder 550s eight cylinder and then just straight up M5 is the craziest eight cylinder. So there's no 560 no 560 no 30 40 50 and M5. And which one is yours the 40 minus the 30 that did not his is the 40s is the 40. The 40 mine is the 30 I did not his is the 40s is the 40 But he could have went 50 you could have went 50 yeah, that's Yeah, everyone everyone 40 everyone says 40 is the best Like it's the sweet spot sort of thing It's a sweet spot as far as money goes and also as far as performance goes and then also the reliability
Starting point is 00:39:04 money goes and also as far as performance goes and then also the reliability BMWs and exactly known for their eight-cylinder engines. They've had some Spotted history with those but the six-cylinder is very reliable and okay Good performance Certified training facility of the week. Did you have anything in mind here? If not, I was wondering Have we done our neck of the woods at all? Yeah I was wondering about a North Dakota one yeah yeah I was thinking something in kind of the three four state area there yeah what about the Bismarck North Dakota I just popped up and it just kind of looks out on an island there so that could be an interesting yeah I think that's a good
Starting point is 00:39:37 idea yeah okay okay are you picking up what I'm putting down I am and we got two different pictures here. Yeah I'm just seeing what two angles. I think Okay, this is good. I think this is the one to do. Yeah, I like this. Okay, so what's what's the name of the gym here? Good, let's go back. So this is in Bismarck, North Dakota certified training facility of the week is her off strength training center Supporting member also former massonomics gym member. Yeah Right here and not far from us, you know, you can see my head down there in the Aberdeen area
Starting point is 00:40:17 So we're not it's one of the closer ones to Western Northeast, South Dakota If you drew drew a circle around it, I guess it's still a it's a jaunt I don't typically do you ever go to Bismarck for anything? It's been a long time I think I've been there two or three times in my life. Is that the capital city? Yes, I believe so I Would say that I would say their capital city in the middle of the state on the Missouri River is Much more exciting than our capital city in the middle of the state on the Missouri River is much more exciting than our capital city in the middle of the state of the Missouri River. True. So let's analyze the certified training facility. Yeah. We got in Bismarck, North Dakota. So a couple things. So we're gonna, we're just gonna, we're gonna pick apart angle
Starting point is 00:40:57 one here for a second. Is that picture one? Yes, yes, picture one. So it looks like it looks like it's in, I think it's the back of like a, of a second or third stall, kind of like your house, you know, because there's like a miniature, it looks like a miniature garage door. That looks like a door that you'd, you'd go out with your lawnmower. Yeah. Your lawnmower or a golf cart or something. I don't think the camera's playing any weird tricks. Like I think that is just a smaller garage door. Yeah. Um, and then you can
Starting point is 00:41:29 see they got some shelving for garage stuff. There's a TV, there's a cart. I can't quite tell. Is there like some dumbbells on that cart? Maybe? Yeah, I think there could be some dumbbells on that. And then I think there's some stones. Looks like some natural rocks. Yeah, he's got some natural rocks. Yeah, which got like at least three natural rocks there for lifting. Which is pretty cool. And that's kind of all you see from that angle. But then if you go to the other angle,
Starting point is 00:41:52 that's where you see a little more of the gym. And a couple things right away. I mean, first off, is that a hot dog heater up there, Tanner? Yeah, he's got my heater. He's got the hot dog. He's got my hot dog forced air, natural gas, vented out the side of the garage there. He's got my heater. He's got the hot dog. He's got my hot dog forced air, natural gas, vented out the side of the garage there. He's got my heater.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And that's a quality unit right there. That is actually a quality unit. I'm guessing his is probably also thermostatically controlled with a wall mount thermostat. I would sure think so. For a garage gym lifter in the Dakotas, that's the heat. That's the Cadillac of heat right there. Yeah, thatas that's that's the heat heat
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's the that's the Heaters that's the 50. That's the good stuff. So he's got one of those 12. He's got one of those See in the corner we have a rogue glued ham raise I think that's the Abrams one right looks pretty similar to the one in the gym. Doesn't it? I think so. It's kind of cut off just there. Yes, you can't quite see it But it looks like it's in really good shape and new We have some bar and band storage on the wall and then we have a rogue rack I actually can't tell if that's a two by two or a two by three from this picture But you can see the little our logo for post and then what's interesting about it They have a really cool custom deadlift platform with their logo on it. Yep
Starting point is 00:43:09 It looks like the massonomics You know the yeah when we have the video on it's definitely that it's the 8x8, right? Is that yeah. Yeah, yeah what they got the wood down the middle the horse saw mats on the sides Lots of plates so, you know, they're lifting weights in there. They got a lot of 45s Yeah, is that two stacks of 45s? I think so. Yeah, so a lot of weights in there. Got a bar, flat bench. Off in the corner I think I see some type of little pull down cable machine of some sort it looks like. Must be. And then I think there's a treadmill. Yeah, treadmill and a bike of so yeah the eco bike or I just uh, yeah I think that's the echo bike and the certified training facility flag right there on the wall. Of course. I seen his his lifting videos
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah It's a very clean gym. What is clean in the wall? It's very bright the old the wall nice epoxy floor in the garage there Yep, bright white walls ceiling. Yeah, the epoxy floors. Yeah, good. Good looking spot. What? Tommy do you think he could get strong in that? I can damn near feel the strength just radiating off this photo. So yes, I think you get it very strong there Yeah, you too could become a certified training facility of the week. The first step is Becoming a certified training facility going to massonomics.com slash certified Second step is making sure you send us pictures of your certified training facility for us to add to the map
Starting point is 00:44:36 And if you're on the fence about becoming a certified training facility go to the go to the site and just look at this map These map with all these pins in it. Look at all these people that have done it. This is many people literally cannot be wrong. There are so many pins on this map. There is no way that this many people can be wrong. You too could become a certified training facility. Should we give everyone the boot
Starting point is 00:45:01 before we get into this title topic? Yeah, I think so. I've been dying to boot these people off of here. So while you do that, I'm first going to check the score of the Timberwolves game. Oh, yes, please do. They're up by three points with four minutes left in the second quarter. How many points that by? They're up by 345 to 42. This is a pivotal game five. they win this the series is over How about that Julius Randall? Oh
Starting point is 00:45:30 Julius Randall heck of a basketball player. He's been playing lately. He knows how to put the biscuit in the basket I'll tell it tell you that much also Doesn't hurt when Steph Curry doesn't get to play for the Warriors. Oh does not it doesn't also It's kind of thing don't be old because you're gonna get hurt when your best person is what is old. That's that's tricky What's the old saying? Availability is more important than the best of the best ability is availability some athletes exactly Then the best training, bang for your buck training is juggernautai.app.
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Starting point is 00:47:07 All right, we ready for my nine now What happened? I bet Julia I bet Nasri just made two threes. Oh, you said they're up by nine now. Mm-hmm. Oh nice All right, did I see a stat the other day? It said in the pre Anthony Edwards the Timberwolves franchise has 18 playoff wins since he's been On the team they have 18 playoff wins. I believe it and he's 23 years old Yeah, that is crazy. That is crazy that he is younger than a lot of the guys that played in the NCAA basketball tournament Yeah, and one other note not as much basketball related, but basketball Jason injury related, which is often lifting related.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Jason Tatum tore his Achilles. Oh, it was Jason Tatum? I thought it was, who's the other guy on their team again? Brown. Yeah, I thought it was Brown. No. Oh, it was Tatum. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I was watching and the second it happened, there was no doubt that that's exactly what happened. Oh, it was very obvious. Yeah, because it's a no contact injury. That's just often it is, and it's when you're pushing off. And then not that I've experienced it, but everyone makes it sound like it feels like someone literally like shot you with a two by four
Starting point is 00:48:18 in the back of your leg and you collapse, like thinking someone shot you or something like that. And you could tell that's exactly what happened. Like no contact, just pushing off and fell down immediately. And that's a, that's a rough injury to come back from as far as I understand. That's a long one. Yeah. So they're also going to be toast now too, because they're now down three, one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:44 What are we doing our title topic then? Title topic. You know what that means it's time for our title topic. And what is the title of this topic? This is the protein source tier list. Tier list. So what tiers are we working with? This is the Masonics tier list. We might not be the same as everyone's top of the tier list top of the mountain best it gets s tier.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Below that, a tier below that B tier below that C tier. And we're skipping D and going straight to F. So worst is F. So s a b c f, we got five levels that we will be grouping these different protein sources into. I think we're gonna do it like last time where we have to come to a consensus agreement on where they go. We're not splitting it.
Starting point is 00:49:35 We have to come to agreement. Oh, I had an idea about that. I like that. We do it just like that except, or no, just like that with the addition that each of us gets, you pick the number, either one or two total vetoes where you say, this one's so important to me, I'm using my one veto
Starting point is 00:49:59 where it doesn't matter what your opinion is. You know what I'm saying? Where if it's like, we disagree, where it's like, oh really, I think that one sucks. I think it's a C and you're like, this is an S. Yeah, music we were in pretty good agreement on. I'm curious if we have any that strong feelings on food or not.
Starting point is 00:50:15 We'll see, we'll see here. We might not, but let's keep like, Yeah, we got that as a secret weapon. Should we say we each get one of those? Yeah, I think that's fair, we each get one. I'm pulling my- Kinda like your mulligan in golf. Yeah, like almost like my mulligan and like, nope, the debates over because I'm using
Starting point is 00:50:29 my card on this one. And it's going to that. And it's probably either going to be if one of us really thinks something is an F or an S. Yeah, because you're not going to be like, I feel so strongly that this is a B. To go from B to C. I just can't stand for a B here. Yeah. So we each get one of those. otherwise we've got about 20 topic 20 20 foods and Like we didn't really pick Yeah, so we we left we we didn't put ground beef chicken salmon like we didn't put
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like the most basics of protein sources but like the most basics of protein sources. We picked some ones that we could probably have fun with. Yeah, we picked some, I mean, don't get me wrong. We did pick some pretty basic items and items you would expect from us, but yeah. Yeah, we left off chicken, turkey, ground chicken, ground. I mean. Just the basic meats.
Starting point is 00:51:19 The most basic meats we left off, yeah. Just because we didn't think it'd be as much. It's just too plain to go with those We got to have a steak is kind of table steak same thing steak We took steak out. Yeah, like we didn't we just didn't go with us straight up the plain cuts of meat for the most part Right, right Because you could do a list of just those basically. I mean, yeah if you were to do that, yeah, you could do yeah Well and even there
Starting point is 00:51:42 Okay, you're doing pork. We're doing pork loin, pork chops. How are we doing this here? So we didn't even go down that road. We mostly stayed away from that. All right, so do you wanna pick one from the list first that we try to find? Well, I'm wondering, maybe we need to take this numerically because we might lose track of what we did
Starting point is 00:51:59 if we start jumping around, right? Well, I could bold them or something once we've done them. Okay, okay, this is, Right. Well, I could bold them or so. Oh true true once we've done them. Okay Okay, okay. This is because the thing with the tier list now is What you start kind of anchors what what what the numbers are here, you know, we start with an easy one then like Yeah, but the easy ones it doesn't really do anything it's where you put the line at B and C and A is what really? Dictates where the rest of them go here Yeah, like an easy s that doesn't really anchor anything does now as you're like well obviously that's the I'll let you pick you
Starting point is 00:52:33 Get to go first Okay Let's go Hmm The other fun part of this is people get to hear our logic for why food is good and bad, and we're by no means nutritionists. We can spin it any... I don't even know. Some of this will be personal preference.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Some of this will be actual based on- Like the macros. Yeah. Like on one thing we could put down low because we think the macros aren't actually that good and the next thing we could Put up high Because the macros still aren't that good, but it tastes what we like Use whatever justification for very yeah, this is a various. This isn't like a dr. Mike thing where it's a very objective This is very much personal preference here. Yeah. All right. Let's let's go with chicken wings then I don't know why
Starting point is 00:53:28 Okay, let's do chicken wings chicken. We want to get ultra specific Specific we won't put it on the list like this, but we'll say just for the sake of a funny thing It's circus double dipped wings, but it's just chicken. That's what we're talking. You're talking my language here. Yeah, so it's chicken wings There again, we said we didn't do the most basic cuts of meat, but like, yeah, chicken wings had a place for us here. We talk about chicken wings often. Yes, yes, chicken wings.
Starting point is 00:53:54 The image has been introduced into the graphic Tanner. Do you see it? Okay, yep, I see it. Does that look like a delightful image of chicken wings there? That does, got the celery with it. Boy, okay, chicken wings wings definitely not an F tier chicken wings are definitely not a C tier I'm not even sure chicken wings are a beat here chicken wings are one of my
Starting point is 00:54:16 What am I preferred methods of eating chicken if I got to eat chicken? I mean doesn't really feel like you're eating chicken when you're eating chicken wings if we're being honest I mean, it doesn't really feel like you're eating chicken. We're eating chicken wings, if we're being honest. True. I mean, just first of all, based on how much I like them, I'm really leaning towards an A right away. I'm curious. And I know there's going to be some variation in this. I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:54:38 There shouldn't really be any carbs in there. It should just be protein and fat. That's what I'm looking at what the macro breakdown is. Skinless? Boneless with skin. No, no, we're not doing boneless, though. We're doing it. No, no, no, I know.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, no, not boneless. No, God, no. I'm sorry. For the love of God, thank you for clarifying that. We are talking about actual chicken wings here. Yeah. We're talking about real chicken wings. Yeah, we are talking chicken wings.
Starting point is 00:55:02 So this quick Google AI Results here this says chicken wings with skin calories 239 fat 13 grams protein 27 grams carbs zero grams hey I'm not sure how much of a if that's one wing four wings what number they're pulling from proteins double fat though But that's exactly my point. Protein is double fat. To me, that's a pretty good protein food. Like also, don't eat chicken wings every night of the week, but if you're gonna eat at a restaurant, I think there's a lot worse choices you could make
Starting point is 00:55:36 than chicken wings. I'm real streaky on my chicken wing consumption. I can eat a lot of them for a long time and then I get a little tired of them and they go on the back burner. I was on chicken wings for quite a while and I got off them and just recently I think I'm getting the taste back. We're back on the way. I always like chicken wings. I'm just talking about eating Eating chicken wings excessively frequently. Yeah on the chicken wings even just seeing that picture or when we were had chicken wings that Jake's I was like, yeah, I'm back on the chicken wings, I think.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. He had chicken wings for us there. To me, I think it's not an S. I think it's either a B or an A, and I would be good with either of those. I'm just gonna read one more time. When in doubt, you can consult MacroFactor to just see what they have.
Starting point is 00:56:23 They have chicken. You can also use discount code Mastodonm use discount code mass dynamics if yes chicken wing skin eaten they say one drumette has a wing meat and skin here we go they say ooh macros don't look too hot on this one all the stuff this is batter fried chicken wings meat and skin five point eight grams of protein six grams of fat that all of a sudden paints a little different picture There's I'm thinking more of a B. Then if that's what we're if that was the case. I would a hundred percent say B I'm just like really curious Alright, we'll settle this chat GPT. What are?
Starting point is 00:56:59 macros for chicken wings in a restaurant for chicken wings in a restaurant. Because I mean, preferred method for chicken wings in a restaurant, right? Right. It'll be fried. Yeah, true. Oh yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Those are, that's a restaurant staple. See, Chatt GPT, okay, they're saying a typical serving 10 wings, protein 60 to 80 grams, fat 60 to 70. So there's, that one changes my perspective a little bit. I'm gonna have to say that that's a now a B tier. That's a B tier for me. If the fat is just as high as the protein, yeah, barely a protein food. Exactly. That's a fat. But it is a damn tasty food. Yeah, it's so tasty it holds it out of the flavor. I have a hard time putting it in anything below. Yeah, flavor alone. I'm gonna go go, I feel, what did we say?
Starting point is 00:57:46 C, we said B, right? CEO, I guess the macros do suck kind of. Macros do suck. We're going to say B for right now on that one. B for right now on the wangs. All right. OK. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Does that mean it's my turn? Yep. Oh boy, so many windows open here. Okay, you got these bolded? All right. Yeah. Let's go, one part of my breakfast every morning, a Greek yogurt.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Greek yogurt, hot button issue here because we're big cottage cheese guys and everyone anytime anyone brings up cottage cheese Someone has to say but what about Greek? I don't I don't buy that argument one bit. It's like saying chicken wings Well, what about popsicles these burgers? No, no cheeseburgers like those to me these things have nothing to do with each other You might as well say any other food group I do not take the substitution of cottage cheese and Greek yogurt that some people just seem to think they're interchangeable No, not one bit. Okay. Here's my one also further point on that because they seem to be tied at the hip for whatever reason Plain cottage cheese tastes good. Yes plain Greek yogurt
Starting point is 00:59:04 Flavored Greek yogurt just eating that plain does not taste good. Yes. Plain Greek yogurt, on flavored Greek yogurt. Just eating that plain does not taste good. I remember when I thought plain meant vanilla. You know? Right. And then you have actual plain and you realize, oh, this isn't good. Plain cottage cheese is delicious. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:59:22 That's the preferred method of eating it. Does anyone actually prefer plain Greek yogurt? Not mixing it in. Actually eating just plain. Or you can then, it's a substitute for sour cream at that point where you can put it on a big plate. So they also don't eat, I don't think people eat Greek yogurt plain, do they?
Starting point is 00:59:44 I wouldn't, It tastes bad. Like, like that's the thing. Like we kind of we're not punishing ourselves. It doesn't taste horrible, but it's not a pleasant flavor, I don't believe. Like people are like, you're not loading up a cup of just plain ass Greek yogurt. I mean, like, oh, I'm so excited to eat this. Right. No one's doing that, are they? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:00:06 But I mean, because if you are, there's a way more delicious things you could be doing for no loss in macros if that's how you're consuming this. Yeah. But you're talking like a single serving Greek yogurt, like the black, the ones that come out like the Oikos. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:22 They're like everyone has those vanilla triple. I have at least one of those a day. Yeah one a day like they're great If what's it 15 grams of protein protein usually I don't even know well here Let's just see what Macro factor says people want to compare the macros to like oh Non-fat plain Greek yogurt, and I'm like nobody's eating that no like the way that we know when he's that and also yeah Like this is Like yeah, I'm also just providing bait for all the people that want that like to argue about Greek yogurt I don't I don't understand there if their argument is you can mix it in. Okay, that's not Greek yogurt then again Basing this on the merits of the single item here. We're not right. We're not mixing eight things
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah Oikos triple triple zero Greek yogurt 15 protein zero fat seven carb I mean taste delicious look forward to it every morning. I never get tired of it That might be an S tier for me. It's really good. I Don't like it as an S tier because it's not as good as cottage cheese More than one item in the S tier, but I just don't like them as an S tier because it's not as good as cottage cheese Oh, I don't want to be more than one item in the s tier But I just don't like them being next to each other because they're associated with each other again. Yeah Mmm, I see what you're saying. I See what you say. I could I could live with I don't want to eat here at the moment
Starting point is 01:01:40 Okay, there might be some wiggle room at the end. Yeah, okay. But I can see this in the. I just wanna clearly, I don't wanna give the Greek yogurt fan girls too much support in the Greek yogurt versus cottage cheese. We're not the purists that demand plain Greek yogurt just to mix it in with things. I mean, if you love a food so much
Starting point is 01:02:03 but the way you eat it is not as that food I don't think that's that good of a food then You know, but those that you're talking about are are very good. Oh, yeah, they're delicious It's damn have had a couple that had been like gone not because of the date But they had for some reason gone bad. Oh ever come across those I bet and oh my god never happens to me No right like gone bad, I don't know if you've ever come across those. And oh my God. Never happens to me, no. Like rancid, like a whole batch of them one time, where I had like, which is also annoying,
Starting point is 01:02:29 because I'm like, we had like six of them, and I had to be thrown away. No, I've never had that. Yeah. Okay, next. Next on the list, we've got... Beef jerky. Oh. Beef jerky. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Beef jerky. Okay. Now let's hear your thoughts. Let's hear your thoughts. Beef jerky. Not a huge fan of beef jerky myself. You know, it's not, I'm kind of curious what the macros are. They're pretty good. Maybe that'll help influence me.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I'm sure it's mostly protein and sodium. Get those sodium levels up. Yeah. But I don't. I mean, beef jerky is a travel option. Very portable. We could say one of the most portable items on this entire list. Whereas Greek yogurt and things like that are staples in my diet beef jerky is absolutely not a staple in my diet. I don't know beef jerky for whatever reason to me is like a C.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like I just don't I just don't like get stuck in your teeth always That's it that's like a whole I do know what you mean there look my kids are like Yeah, and I'm like just constantly picking out of them like really guys Yeah, the macros are probably very good that helps if that's a big yeah, let's see. Let's see the macros, so this would be You know commonly available jack links here. Yeah, there you go a bag of jack links one ounce One out well, let's just do a whole bag a three ounce bag, which is also it's way too frickin expensive I mean that's gonna get to is that dollars per there's not many things on this that are more price prohibitive than beef
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah, that's actually maybe my most important point But a pretty standard small package you're looking at four and a half which is like three pieces Yeah, and like ten dollars Yeah, three ounces ten dollars is pretty standard. I think on that eight dollars something like that four and a half grams of fat Seventeen grams of carbs in this jack links one surprisingly and thirty grams of protein I'm assuming that one's so high because it probably like the flavoring they're probably using something kind of sweeter Yeah, 17 grams of total sugar added. sugar added actually a lot of sugar added to that. Okay It's gonna depend on your brain too for what that is. Yeah price sugar
Starting point is 01:04:55 Pretty good macros though get stuck in your teeth very portable portable But not a staple to me at all. That's why to me it's like a C, it's not an F. No, it's not an F, because it is good. It tastes good. Also with beef jerky though, there's extreme variances in consistency. That's true, I think that that's worth noting. One will be somewhat moist and, you know, just palatable.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And the other one could just be rock hard and dried out. I am on board with the sea there. It's definitely not enough. Good beef jerky can be a B, but yeah, just it. It might be the most expensive thing per ounce on this entire list. Right. I think so. All right. What's next? I'm going to hit breakfast one more time with something
Starting point is 01:05:41 I've been doing more recently. Bagels, bagels. That's the boogs. That is the booze secret the boogs bagels bagels all day I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you some Some macro breakdown on the Kirkland bagel that I enjoy every morning Let me see so we are looking at an everything bagel from Kirkland. Water-boiled everything bagel. 12 grams of protein, 2 grams of fat, and 58 grams of carbs. So you know the protein to fat ratio is 6 to 1. That's a pretty extreme number there.
Starting point is 01:06:26 You are getting a lot of carbs, but some people like me, you need something to get you some good carbs in the morning. Otherwise, I don't have much else for carb sources. Right. Coming a ton of different flavors. You can pick whatever flavor you want. Anywhere from fruity to savory to no flavor at all. You can put nothing on them. You can put nothing on them.
Starting point is 01:06:45 You could put something on them. They go with eggs. You know, again, you can mix and match. Also fairly portable. You could take it on the go. You don't have to toast it. You know, you could. That's toasted though.
Starting point is 01:06:56 You could eat a plain. You could do whatever you want. You could pop it in the microwave to just warm it up for a bit. If that's something that tickles your fancy. I'm leaning towards a, and they're fairly cheap in the scheme of things too, I'm leaning towards an A or a B on this one.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I'm basically pro bagel on everything, because I like bagels and we always have bagels in our house, the only thing, the con on the bagel is, on the protein list is, well, the carbs are four or five X the protein, so it's really more of a carb than it is a protein. It's more of a carb.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Well, yeah, some days you gotta do that carb load and get those carb numbers up. And we've got, it's not the only one on the list that's like that, where it's, you know, it's arguably more carb than protein. I feel pretty good putting this in a B. Yeah, that's the only thing that knocks it down to me is that it's not, you know, protein,
Starting point is 01:07:51 if protein's not the number one macro ingredient and I have a hard time putting it, it definitely couldn't be S to me. Definitely couldn't be S. That's really the only negative of bagel on this list, I think. Yeah, I mean- Toasted bagel is is freaking good. Although can also burn your hands because a toasted bagel Nothing is hotter than the outside of a toasted bagel. That's right. It's like that. It's like the inside of a volcano
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yes, it is Okay Also when pizza is on a bagel, he can have pizza anytime. He can have pizza anytime. Pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza at dinner time. I would quit beating around the bush. Cottage cheese.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Let's do it. It's S tier. Here we go. It's S tier. Done, on to the next one. I can't entertain anything else other than STR on cottage cheese. I mean, there's no cons Only pros. I mean, okay, we're gonna be totally real. There is one con and that con is sodium C No, I'm sorry. I'm a con sodium is not a god. It's consistency, you know, yeah. Oh that is that is actually a con
Starting point is 01:09:01 It's cuz what I'm thinking is good cottage cheese is s here all day Mm-hmm kind of cheese can suck balls. Yeah when it it's not good. Yeah, so it does have a lot of sodium But oh no, no, no nothing to worry about but it's obvious. Yes here. Tell me something good. That doesn't have sodium Assuming it's good cottage cheese. It tastes delicious. The macros are awesome It's good cottage cheese. It tastes delicious. The macros are awesome. Yep. Especially protein to calories, protein to any of the...
Starting point is 01:09:29 Let's give people... Maybe this is your first episode or maybe you've been ignoring our cottage cheese propaganda. If you haven't heard of talking about the macros and cottage cheese before. Here's... I'm looking at a... I just typed in cottage cheese macros. Let's see what pops up here. This is like a daisy No, this is daisy low fat. Give me the give me the real one here
Starting point is 01:09:52 We ain't dicking around with that low fat stuff So oh my god, it's freaking delicious back to macro factor. Here we go It's so a serving of daisy four percent milk fat cottage cheese by Daisy You're looking at 13 grams of protein 5 grams of fat 5 grams of carbs That's in a half a cup a half a cup you'll eat that and you like that was a serving. I'll have another Thank you, sir. May I have another so protein to a Fat ratio like two and a half to one.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Pretty damn good there. Just a few carbs. I mean, super delicious. Makes every meal feel like a complete meal. You had pizza, boom, spice it up with some protein. It's the perfect side dish, and it's not plain Greek yogurt that just is a thing that has to go in something.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It is the perfect thing. It stands on its own. It totally stands on its own. It is a ready to go side dish that requires no preparation Other than having to exist preferably in a cold location before you eat it All you have to do is peel off that plot that little plastic thing on top and you're ready to serve Yeah, it's just it works. It just stands on its own. No prep needed. You just take that lid off and Make it happen to town. It's delicious
Starting point is 01:11:08 All right. I do have one piece of follow-up here on the high V cottage cheese. I was really hyping it up and About several at one time. They were all delicious went back bought several more because I don't do normally do a ton of grocery shopping at high V and This is right before you came and I was all excited to let you have some Hy-Vee cottage cheese before we took off and I'm like, God, maybe I had it wrong, maybe like the batch that I thought was delicious was the one off and this isn't how it normally is. Cause the curd, the texture was significantly different
Starting point is 01:11:37 than what I'd had. The curd itself was even significantly different and I'm thinking what is actually the right one? So I didn't want to give it to you because I'm like, this isn't that good. If I've been hyping this up. It's giving me a good, I'm gonna have a bad opinion of it. Yeah, if I've been hyping it up and it was kind of sort of reminiscent of Daisy,
Starting point is 01:11:53 which there's nothing wrong with, but I'm like, this isn't anything spectacular. So I didn't even bother giving you any. And I went back, I got three more. And when I opened it, this last one, just two days ago, I opened it and it was at first I'm like This is just milk It doesn't even look like there's anything in here
Starting point is 01:12:08 But you scoop down to the bottom and it was some of the biggest chunkiest curds ever. Yeah, and yeah, it's amazing again So I think I've never seen ones that vary as much as the high V one as far as texture and size and everything But wild variety the wild variety, but when it's good man. It's good. It's good All right, what's next next on the list? Let's go well because we just did this let's do gallon of milk We're doing it gallon We're not just doing milk. We're doing gallon of milk is for the list we already specified this pre-show I mean should this also just be whole milk while we're at it. Yeah gallon of milk is for the list we already specified this pre-show I mean should this also just be whole milk while we're at it yeah
Starting point is 01:12:46 gallon of whole milk that's the item on the list it's not just milk this will be the one in the picture that people will be Mad at whatever it's in because they'll just see milk, but those that listen will know it's specifically gallon of None of the other ones are restricted to a very specific serving size. We didn't, we just talked about it in however much you want to eat, but the milk one is a gallon of milk a day. Yes. Is that the way we're playing this one? That's that's how we're doing this one.
Starting point is 01:13:14 All right. So for refresher for people, 16 servings in a gallon, one gallon is obviously a, or one serving is a cup here. So in a cup, you get 150 calories, eight grams of fat, 12 grams of carbs, and eight grams of protein. So fat and protein are tied for the lowest. Also, 125 milligrams of sodium. So it's not like sodium-free by any means, but. Yeah, I actually, I don't, the only reason we buy milk in our household is for the kids I
Starting point is 01:13:50 Don't know some point along the lines in the last Eight years ten years, I just one day quit buying milk and I just don't buy it anymore I don't crave it. I as a kid and even in high school and everything I drink it all the time Yeah, so long line though. I quit buying it. I don't crave it. I, as a kid, and even in high school and everything, I'd drink it all the time. Yeah. Some of them I know, I quit buying it. I don't crave it. I have no, I never once pour a glass of milk for my kids and think, ooh, I'd like this. Never even crosses my mind that it's something
Starting point is 01:14:12 I could consume. So for me, personally, milk is pretty damn low on the list. Like, I mean, honestly, for me, milk would be, it could be an F tier item and it would not bug me at all. I do know, like some people like you, Tanner, you for me, milk would be, it could be an F tier item and it would not bug me at all. I do know like some people like you Tanner, you do consume some milk. So I could see this being higher. I don't consume a lot of milk.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And also we have to look at this through the lens of gallon of milk specifically. That is a good point. As a gallon of milk, I mean, it's an F tier. I would never consume a gallon of milk in a day, never. Also the thing about it, when you really look at the macros, the fact, because what macros,
Starting point is 01:14:51 protein didn't lead the way, right? No, protein and fat are tied for last. Right, and this is whole fat. So it's a one to one. This is whole milk too. Yeah, it's a one to one ratio on protein and fat. I could drink milk all the time, but I don't
Starting point is 01:15:05 because I don't know that my body like perfectly agrees with that much dairy. So I kind of have a little bit of milk every day, but not near as much as I used to, because I just don't think you know, the 40 year old body is good at process of processing all that processing power is going to cut cheese, not milk. Dude, I can say I don't have I mean, I'll be the first to tell you, I don't have a perfect digestive system by any means, but I've never once had any intestinal distress from cottage cheese at all.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Oh, no, it's totally fine with me. Yeah, no, no cottage cheese at all. Oh, no, it's it's totally fine with me. Yeah. No, no not at all Yeah, I'm fine with it I was gonna say either I was maybe lean towards see but really a gallon of milk That's the thing that's setting off as the gallon if if the rules that we're going to gallon of milk in a day It's an F2. I would not like it too because that's good clickbait having it down in there Because everyone's gonna be furious when they see milk as an F. I mean, it's not a high protein food. You know, like everything on the list above it has more protein.
Starting point is 01:16:13 The starting person to come out, come out in with their pitchforks to to go after the tier list. So maybe that's worth it. I'm sorry. Pick a better food to be excited about. Oh, it kind of cheese. You got the wrong dairy. I accidentally put my accidentally put my battery in my camera instead of the wall plug. Oh, it's right here that I just got to switch it out. running. Is she running down there? I mean she's down Okay, she's not just running down there. She's gone. She's gone All right, I heard that Chuck heard that milk slander and said I'm out
Starting point is 01:16:55 It must be a starting strength camera Next one I'm going to pick is Next one I'm going to pick is eggs. The incredible edible. Yeah. Standard big egg guy. People don't know. Six eggs a day every day. Six a day keeps the doctor away. Six for breakfast. And what are the macros? In an egg, 77 calories, no carbs significantly to speak of, six grams of protein and five grams of fat. So a whole egg
Starting point is 01:17:37 does just have a little bit more protein than fat in it. It is surprising. That's a lot of, you know, six a day or six in the morning You're getting what you said five grams of fat. Yep So you're getting 30 grams of fat right off the bat from there That's actually been the one of the ones that's right I usually do three eggs is what I typically do and It's always like oh man That is a lot more fat than what I'm expecting it from just one single food source
Starting point is 01:18:02 But it's barely any food three eggs is is like what my four year old could eat for an egg snack. I just, I agree. I don't like eggs that much. I just kind of make myself eat them. I don't, I very rarely, very rarely look forward to eating eggs. I just make myself do it.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You know, and then I have enough other things. Admittedly my breakfast. I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna use my card and then we just don't even have to debate. It's gonna be S tier. And the debate's over. That's my one card.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Eggs is S tier. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. And then we don't even have to, we don't have to agree because I'm using my one. Is that where you want it? I, yeah, that's an S tier.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And then, cause I don't know if anything else on the, in the list I feel, don't think I feel as know if anything else on the in the list, I feel don't think I feel as strongly about anything else on the list as I do eggs. So. All right. You called it. I definitely would not put it in S tier.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Not ever, but that is the game. And that's how you're playing it. Is. Yeah. Okay. I don't even care that there's how you're playing it. There it is. Yeah. Okay. I don't even care that there's almost just as much fat. See, that's one of the ones I'm gonna use that as a reason why I don't like some other ones as well,
Starting point is 01:19:14 but not eggs. That doesn't apply to that one to me. Has one of the most varieties of eating methods out of all the items so far. True, true. That's a pro. Okay. All right, what's next? One of the most varieties of eating methods out of all the items so far true true That's a pro. Okay. What's next? Next I will go Boy I'm gonna go pure protein bars and
Starting point is 01:19:41 I Outside of the stretch where I swear the supply was tainted for a month or two and they were not good like totally unedible to me Outside of that. I look forward to eating a pure protein bar every single day I love the things they're just you get the 24 pack from Costco. It's like $20 So you're a little less than a dollar a bar very cheap for Like $20 so you're a little less than a dollar a bar very cheap for What is it 24 grams of 20 grams of protein? Let me give you the macro breakdown here. We got
Starting point is 01:20:16 Pure protein bar we have 20 grams of protein 7 grams of fat 17 grams of carbs. I mean, that's a high protein food yeah, there's a little bit of carbon there a little bit of fat but Taste delicious super convenient relatively affordable This is for sure an a tier for me I Could almost go as tier, but I sort of want to see how s tier shakes out But I'm a definite A tier on this. I'd be good with the A because I don't have much of an opinion because I don't really,
Starting point is 01:20:49 the only time I eat any protein bars ever is on the road. Like I just don't, it's not part of my diet, but those do taste good. I am also someone that I've never had a protein bar of any brand of kind ever. And I've been like, ew, gross, I can't finish it because I don't get a protein bar and think like oh Good, this has to be a candy bar. That's why I bought it. I needed to taste like a KitKat Like you know I'm getting this because it has 20 to 30 grams of protein in it and like I'm trying to get
Starting point is 01:21:19 Some protein in because I'm on the road or whatever the circumstances that I need protein in because I'm on the road or whatever the circumstances that I need Food so I'm like the flavor almost is the flavor Doesn't even matter to me on a protein bar. I had the same mentality until I had pure protein bars I'm like no no they figured out a way to make these damn things tasty like it's yeah, they're just good They're just I literally look for it's after lunch every day I have one of them and I look forward to it like I'm eating dessert like that's that's how I feel about it it's always the last thing I eat because it is dessert because it's so tasty it's not really pure protein no pure protein you are correct there the name is slightly
Starting point is 01:21:56 shot could be called pure protein. Yeah, it's the thought that counts. Yeah. All right, what do you got? Oh, my turn? We'll do something I also have every day, but I think is lower on this list to me than it probably is to some people is peanut butter.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And that's partly because of the, I think is lower on this list to me than it probably is to some people is peanut butter. Hmm, and That's partly because of the mat. I think peanut butter is very tasty delicious I'm also a very much a chunky peanut butter guy. Oh you are yeah Okay, my kids like smooth peanut butter But I'm an adult so I like chunky peanut butter Yeah, that's what I always tell my kids and the kids in my house is I'm an adult so I like mine chunky but I think the There's I mean is there more fat than there's more fat and protein I believe this now takes the cake by quite a bit for the worst macros of the entire list one serving of
Starting point is 01:23:01 Peanut butter here. This is showing for skippy of Peanut butter here. This is showing for skippy 6. this is one ounce of peanut butter, which isn't that much that's enough to just have a good good flavoring a peanut butter Right nothing crazy. Most people are having more than that. Yeah, so you and one ounce you're looking at six point two grams of protein 14.2 grams of fat and five point three grams of carbs That is a whole lot of fat in comparison. There's also a lot of sugar in the most in the most common peanut butters that you know, like the not healthier peanut butters like
Starting point is 01:23:32 like also a lot like your sugar ease in your gift. That's not like no sugar added. There is sugar in those like more than what people think. Yeah, I don't even think the sugar isn't that bad. Honestly, it is just the fat is like because that was for skippy I was reading that off. It's like five point three grams of carbs like Yeah, not great, but the 14 grams of fat like yeah, like it'd be very easy Oh, you could have most people have way more than that serving amount I was gonna say it'd be very it's very very easy for breakfast to have two ounces of peanut butter
Starting point is 01:24:02 serving amount. I was gonna say it'd be very, it's very, very easy for breakfast to have two ounces of peanut butter. So you're at 28 grams of actually at almost 29 grams of fat. And then you know, if you were to like you said, let's say have six eggs with it. All of a sudden you're at like 60 grams of fat for the day. Yeah, I mean, I would recommend that over a gallon of milk all day every day. Also in the peanut, at least in the eggs, you are getting more protein than fat. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:27 In the peanut butter, you're getting a third the protein per gram of fat or whatever the ratio is there. All that being said, I really like the taste of peanut butter. Oh, I do too. Because I love just all, if you gave me just anything that I can load up with peanut butter every pancake or waffle I ever eat has peanut butter on it I love it as far as flavor goes
Starting point is 01:24:51 There's not a whole lot of things on this list that I think are more delicious than peanut butter Yeah, but because of the the macros on this and because of the misconception it carries sometimes to me it's like a C or an F actually because the macros are not that of I Top protein food I do so I think a lot of people have digestive issues with nuts too Yeah, that isn't that is a thing the old nut allergies People just ruin all our fun, but I could be good at either of the bottom one. I mean, it is delicious. It is.
Starting point is 01:25:26 That's the redeeming factor is it is so delicious. The macros just are not that good. But I just want to bump it up to a C just because of how much I personally enjoy it. I mean, I have it every day. So I definitely enjoy it. We'll go C for now. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Maybe there'll be some change in here. But I'm comfortable at go see for now we'll see maybe there may be some change in here but I'm comfortable at a see for right now that's good with me all right did you do we need to get a quick T Wolves break check in here you need that yeah we are 74 59 yeah looking can be Western Conference finals bound. Okay, here we go next on the list I am going to go we'll say cheddar cheese Duck cheese tanner Talk cottage. I talk cottage here. Yeah, I do like cheddar cheese I have it almost every day and the thing you can do with cheddar cheese is have you could I don't know if this is
Starting point is 01:26:23 Allowed for this conversation, but you can also have fat free cheddar cheese. Oh, to really spice up the macros. Yeah, that does. If you're eating on its own, fat free cheese is significantly less tasty. I guess I don't really eat cheese on its own. Yeah. Yeah. If you got the I always have it. I have shredded cheese as a yeah, as I have it as a basically a flavor and flavor enhance yeah exactly like fat free cheddar cheese as a flavor enhancer
Starting point is 01:26:52 because I don't have that many sauces so it's almost like when it's on a hot item and it's melted it is the sauce kind of it is even there a lot of times I have to have some sauce to accompany things but Yeah, okay, so this is showing cheddar cheese a Serving roughly nine grams of fat one gram of carbs and six and a half grams of protein So it's another one of those where fat is the number one item is the number one item. You know, protein, not terrible, but to get some protein of any meaning here,
Starting point is 01:27:28 you're really bumping your fat up in a hurry. Yeah. So, but I do really like cheese though. I could just eat cheese like, I could just put down cheese. My kids could too. Yep. Who picked this one, me me or you I don't know
Starting point is 01:27:49 Like like who put it on the list or no no right now whose turn was that to pick this one right now I think you did didn't you know, I don't even remember now. I'm not sure actually there. Did I say that or not? Maybe it was me. I think you said peanut butter. Yeah, yeah, I said peanut butter. Yeah. I mean, if peanut butter's a C, to me cheese also has to be a C. I really, their macros are pretty damn similar. Right, and they're both tasty.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And they're both really tasty. They kind of follow each other, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I have a hard time putting C and an F because it's just so damn good. Yeah. Yeah. I feel good about cheese being a C. That makes sense to me. That is the right number. Okay. How about the Costco chicken bake? Ooh, classic heavy hitter on the list. Right there. I've heard of that before. Yeah. Infamously, 52 grams of protein per Costco chicken bake. Very high amount of protein per chicken bake. At least there's a lot of other stuff going on with it to a lot
Starting point is 01:28:55 of other stuff. But you are getting 52 grams of protein per chicken bake. Trying to find a good photo of it. I know the Google image images of Costco chicken baked by heart. They keep wanting to show me pictures of the frozen ones, which you know, that's an imitation product. There's a pretty good picture that I think has like three laid out. It does, but still well, also, I always take that one and crop out the middle one Yeah, a lot of them look like a loaf of bread is also kind of the problem for this exercise here, but yeah Now I'll go with this one for now, okay
Starting point is 01:29:37 The Costco chicken bake. Do you do the macros by heart there Tanner? No, I don't remember I mean at one point in time. I do think I did but Let me see That's also the tricky part to historically is getting the correct macros this one says 52 grams of protein 32 grams of fat 83 grams of carbs 840 calories She's got she's got a lot of carbs in her just got a lot of carbs in her. Just got a lot of carbs, a little bit of fat there. It is kind of a meal. You know, you could definitely eat more after it. But it's more
Starting point is 01:30:14 than a snack. That's for sure. Oh, yeah. I had boy, I mean, for the memes, it's an STR all day, you know, that alone, as far as an actual food item, I'm sorry. It's also is only 3.99 as a price. Oh, actually, yeah. It's convenient, comes in that paper sleeve, you can hook that around. How much is, you know, relative,
Starting point is 01:30:35 if you're buying any of these other things in single serving, like if you buy a single, one of those single yogurts, how much does that cost? Oh, at a grocery store, anywhere between a dollar and a dollar two 70 a piece depending on what type of price you're talking but yeah, like they're not cheap by any that's 50 That's 15 grams of protein is all if you buy a single pure protein bar How much do those costs? You know, I've never bought a single one
Starting point is 01:31:01 I would imagine it's a protein bar and if you're buying it a gas station We don't have like four bucks probably probably That's why you gotta buy those in bulk if you're getting those when they're right so you're getting them down to under a dollar a piece But price is definitely a pro on the chicken bake and it's a meal and it is a meal It doesn't feel like you're just having a little snack on the go like most normal people would be like yeah I don't need to eat anything now that I put that down It's got a lot of carbs. It's got a lot of carbs. It's got a decent I'm really torn between the a and B on this one I
Starting point is 01:31:36 Think it's an a because the memes push it to the the memes you're right the memes carry it to an a Yep, I agree. I agree. That's the smart way to, when in doubt, think of the internet clout on any given item. The hype surrounding it. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:56 What are you at? Or is it my turn? I think it's your turn now. Well, since we're on Costco, let's just say the Costco cheese pizza. I, maybe a hot take here. I do not think the Costco pizza is all that good after having had it a few times now over our big Costco run.
Starting point is 01:32:16 And people be like, oh, it's so good. And there's so much bread to me and like that pizza. It is not really this. I don't know what it is. I understand why people do like it. It's just not my preferred pizza. It's also very debatable as to what the macros actually are. This might be the most mysterious item
Starting point is 01:32:35 on this entire list. I mean that picture of the pizza looks really good that you're using there. And usually when I've gotten the pizza from there, it doesn't look quite like that to me. That's not your thought? No. I think this photo's a pretty accurate representation.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I don't have any issues with this photo. My issue is I still am just not totally sure if those macros make sense, because weren't we talking roughly chicken bake macros again on the cheese pizza? Something with no meat on it let's see see if I can pull it okay 700 calories 28 of fat 70 carbs 44 protein so it's it's It's similar the protein is lower. Yes, the proteins are If we're otherwise it is pretty similar if we're specifically saying Costco food court cheese pizza on a protein
Starting point is 01:33:35 Tierless, where does it rank? It's probably like a C tier possibly even lower But I would still much like it's enough. I would so much rather have this any day over having to put down a gallon of milk. And again, the macros are still better, so. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm good with that. Okay. All right, next we're gonna go Chocolate Fair Life. Very tasty.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Had some of that in our Ohio trip at Ohio Pi Co. I had a little chocolate Fair Life with my pizza, of course. Very in vogue also. Yeah, it's really good. You know, I just recently said, I'm not sure I've ever had fair life before And I don't even really care desire milk that much and I don't like chocolate milk either never been a chocolate milk guy but man chocolate fair life that that that did it for me when we had when I had that the other day and
Starting point is 01:34:41 I have not Been able to make a Costco run in the last couple weeks to stock up on whatever that exclusive Costco one they have is but that will definitely be on my shopping list the next time I go I don't know what what do you say the macros are again and we're not saying you have to drink a gallon of this one no no this is just like a serving a day is 14 fluid out servings 250 calories 22 carbs 23
Starting point is 01:35:07 protein 8 fat That's pretty much a protein shake, and it's already made and it's delicious and good I Mean, I'm an easy eight here on this one I'm good with that how much does like one of those costs? That's what it has working against it is the price is One of those costs that's what it has working against it is the price is Not super in your favor like ooh this one right here this at Walmart the 30 gram high protein one whatever it is a 12 pack is showing
Starting point is 01:35:47 $34 yeah, it's like an almost $3 a unit that is one of the most expensive items on I mean, that's what that's actually for sure What's stopping it from being an s-tier item is it just too expensive? Yeah Given in the a tier. It's the most expensive item on that list I think you've got two comparable numbers of protein It would be I think the most expensive still so yeah, I think a tier I could even understand possibly be tear someone yeah but it tastes good it actually does taste good it's really good all right next on the list let's go let's go okay let's do a protein shake. Oh, that's gotta be pretty high for me. I had a lot of protein shakes in my life.
Starting point is 01:36:34 And from a macro perspective, obviously, you're hitting something pretty good there. Also, compared to a lot of these other really high protein items pretty affordable for the number of grams is like people I Always feel like people like to complain about the price of protein, but in the scheme of comparing it till everything else here It's actually like the amount of protein you get for the cost If you buy it in a decent quantity is not bad. And almost nothing else on top of that, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:08 Like you're not, you know, there's not a bunch of fat hiding behind the scenes or even a lot of car. It's just, it's the kind of the closest you can get to just sort of having pure protein. Other than something that says pure protein. That's actually not pure protein, but. I, though, maybe pure protein, but I Though maybe the one if I'm to
Starting point is 01:37:35 Think of the flip side the one downside of it is not really real food. No that is definitely I think Certain people can get lost in the fact that like yeah, you're not really consuming food. You know this isn't a food substitute. That's pretty high to me though, still. Like it's almost an S to me, but I could see making it not an S. I could see an A, but it's just the price and the macro breakdown are both very high on the list. But it's not real food is the one thing too Yeah, it's like I think people overrate it sometimes because it's not it has a great place in somebody's diet
Starting point is 01:38:12 I think that's trying to do a high protein diet But it's it's also not food like like would you do you ever consume multiple protein shakes in a day? I have before I used to do that I don't do that anymore because I just switched to more where I'm like, no, I want to get more of what I need through food. Yeah, it's just kind of my
Starting point is 01:38:31 mentality on it. So, but I wouldn't be again also like in a pinch or something, I wouldn't be against it. And sometimes I will just treat it as a snack if I'm like, yeah, if I'm like, oh, I want something that's chocolatey, then I'm like, OK, I can have, oh I want something. Yeah, it's chocolatey. I'm like, okay, I can have that
Starting point is 01:38:46 I'm just like having 30 more grams of protein basically instead of like a piece of sugar Yeah, it doesn't satisfy that thing though. If you feel like eating something, you know, it doesn't satisfy that urge but yeah Otherwise though it is pretty solid. I Mean we obviously are big fans of build fast formula over here my favorite is the chocolate I would use a build fast formula picture, but most people if we post this graphic understand a build fast formula bag is where if you put An optimum nutrition tub everyone's like oh, I know what that is kind of the generic Yeah, I'm probably an a on this one. Just I'm good at that Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a ton of ways you can do it between making a crazy
Starting point is 01:39:28 shake, mixing it in your oatmeal, whatever else you think you need to do, but very versatile, very affordable, pretty convenient, but it doesn't really have that satisfaction of foods. Yeah, I'm very good with any. All right. Next I'm going to pick tofu. Tofu is like an F to me, and I don't even care what the macros are.
Starting point is 01:39:48 It's not just saying, I think, I'm quite certain I've had it, but I guess that's maybe, maybe that says something about it, is like, I'm not even totally sure if I've had it. My wife makes it. Does she? Yeah, and I've tried it with an open mind
Starting point is 01:40:04 a few different times, thinking like, oh, this maybe isn't too bad, and I've tried it with an open mind a few different times thinking like, oh, this maybe isn't too bad and I do not really like it. And I think it sucks. I guess I get why other people like it, but I do not. Yeah. Isn't the point of it is like you have to like actually have kind of a recipe down to make it tolerable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Like you don't just eat straight up tofu. Do you? That I sure certainly wouldn't do that. I'm trying to see what Okay, here we have at Target good and gather organic extra firm tofu $3 for a little brick of that thing. Give me some give me some numbers on this. I just The macros are pretty good. I think but are they? Yeah, this is showing okay, so a whole brick of it is four and a half servings So a serving is pretty damn small actually three ounces is a serving four and a half grams of fat
Starting point is 01:41:01 Three grams of carbs nine grams of protein so two ratio, not, yeah, actually pretty decent. I think it's shitty. Yeah, I'm fine with that being an F. I mean, I don't buy it ever. So like that, that just shows like that's an F to me. Like the only F item is milk. The only other item on this list I never consume. Yeah, I don't like tofu.
Starting point is 01:41:30 All right, is that my turn now yep let's do a sardines sardines I also don't like those specifically the canned variation they've been kippered or pickled or whatever you call that gross gross gross girl in fact if you were to tell me who consumes these, who consumes these, I would say, I know sometimes my brother has cans of them, and every time I've been at Jujie Mufu's house, I've seen enormous packages of cans of these things. So I know he's consuming them.
Starting point is 01:41:59 No carbs, 25 grams of protein, and 10 to 12 grams of fat. So it's pretty good. But disgusting. There is that whole taste thing. Yeah, that is also an F for me. Yeah, I don't even need to debate that one. I mean, I don't know if there's an item on this list that would have more agreement than that.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Yeah, gross. Except for the people that really like them. Oh, you got to try sardines. But even the people that really like them, they have to have enough self-awareness to know that like they're kind of not. Yeah. In the majority of that one. Yeah. How about we'll do cheeseburgers? I can has cheeseburger.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Cheeseburgers are delicious. I don't think they're very good from a macro standpoint, though, are they? Probably not. Something here. Protein, 30. Carbs, 40. Fat, 30.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Pretty even across the. Pretty even, actually. Not terrible. You know what else has macros somewhat similar to that? Whole milk. Yeah True But cheeseburgers are delicious
Starting point is 01:43:13 Balking, you know, you're getting calories. You're getting a little bit of everything there Yeah, I wouldn't normally think of someone said they're eating a high protein diet They're eating a lot of cheeseburgers like Calories and still like chugging the protein along a little bit, you know, it's not just eating like Doritos and Right just straight-up garbage right cake pan a day or whatever that was. Yeah I garbage cake pan a day or whatever that one diet was. Yeah. I think, I think, I mean if wings are a B, a cheeseburger has to be a C, right? Yeah, I suppose it's with the cheese pizza.
Starting point is 01:43:56 It's in the cheese pizza and wings area and the breakdown's shittier than the wings, you know? Like, a good cheeseburger is just as delicious as wings to me, but the macro profile is worse, I think, you know? So I think it's kind of a C. It's probably in that pizza area. But don't get me wrong, I'll eat pizza, burgers, and the shit out of my pizza burger thing.
Starting point is 01:44:24 For the list, I just don't think it's gonna go very high. Don't get me wrong. I'll eat pizza, burgers, and the shit. Oh yeah. We're talking. For the list, I just don't think it's food. Prime food here. You go very high. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I can go with that.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Who picked that one, me or you? I did. Let's go, do we wanna do smoothies or is that just a dressed up protein shake? Yeah, maybe we already did that I guess my only note would be like Sometimes it's the shit that people think is actually like a protein food. Yeah They didn't even put a scoop of protein in this in your smooth right barely a scoop and it costs ignit
Starting point is 01:44:56 It's just a it's just a watered down a more sugary or more fat protein shake to me It's really is so we'll take that one off the list Because that can be that the smoothie can mean a lot to a lot of different people there. Yeah But I would typically think of a smoothie as a high protein food though Then okay, I'll do this one here Protein cookies, this is starting to be more of a thing. I've noticing gas stations the last few years quest has some protein cookies I've only had a bite of the Quest on I was with a buddy one time. He got one
Starting point is 01:45:35 He thought they were so good and then I've had these Lenny and Larry's one several times seen those Yeah, and those are like the Arnold or something sometimes I've seen those yeah, and those are like the Arnold or something sometimes Yeah, yeah there or I the first time I ever saw one was that time we did that went and had a booth of the power Lifting meet in Fargo, and they had some of those yeah, and I just gotta see what the macros are on these things Because I forget Lenny and Larry Cookie chocolate chip. I do like that flavor.
Starting point is 01:46:07 So a whole cookie, you're looking at 440 calories, 10 grams of fat, 70 grams of carbs, quite a few carbs in that thing, 16 grams of protein. Wow, there's a lot of carbs in that. That is not even a, that is barely, like that's not even a protein snack to me. Like that's. Yeah with 22 grams of sugar It just is a cookie. It does seem like that is just a cover. I'd be genuinely curious a regular cookie
Starting point is 01:46:33 Is it is it slightly more sugar with no problem? We about yeah, I was gonna say there's just almost no protein probably yeah, otherwise. It's about the same Like they didn't what's up? What's. Is it grandma's cookies, whatever the? Yeah, I think that's what it is, right? Which that'd be a no protein option. Just curious like what the other pre-packaged cookie options are. Grandma's cookies, if you get one of those.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Is that Lenny and Larry one? Is that considered a protein? Like does that, is that what the front of that that I mean I think on the front of the package It's like high protein. Yeah, I mean they're big on their 16 grams of protein Yeah, the grandma's cookies ones per package you're looking at 20 grams of fat 51 grams of carbs and 4 grams of protein so Really the biggest difference is just the fats a little lower and the proteins a little higher in the There again, I don't mind any of that stuff tastes just fine to me
Starting point is 01:47:32 Like even the Lenny's one is pretty good But also like that's not as good as the grandma's cookie like that's no no yeah the grandma's cookies are way better Way better for something. That's not that much worse Yeah, it's almost like you're just getting ten less grams of protein basically yeah, it's still the same other shit It's probably an F tier protein item isn't it I? Would lean that towards that where but it's so delicious Oh, it's good, but I think it's kind of a scam. It's or it's a farce. It's sort of a trick. It's a trap 16 grams of protein just really isn't that much I mean not for seven not for like we say 16 grams of protein in the snack
Starting point is 01:48:14 You're like, oh, that's kind of like a protein bar. That's just a little low on protein, right? Like oh, but what's the rest of it? You're like 10 grams of fat It's like oh, that's like a protein bar, but a little high in fact 70 grams of fat it's like oh that's like a protein bar, but a little high in fact 70 car 70 grams of carbs and 22 grams of sugar proteins yeah, 22 grams of sugar is what really is like well That's just a treat now like right right. Yeah, you're just like just give me a candy bar Yeah, yeah, you know that tastes give me a really good How about I just have a really good cookie, and I'll get my protein somewhere else Yeah, I actually like this.
Starting point is 01:48:45 There's a little infographic here. It says healthy cookies in quotes versus normal cookies. And it's comparing Lenny and Larry's to a regular one. It's like calories in the Lenny and Larry, 180. Calories in a bakery cookie, 170. So the same fat, six and six. Carbs, 32 in the Lenny and Larry versus 26 in a bakery cookie
Starting point is 01:49:06 It's like really actually just has a little added protein. It does. Yeah, it has eight grams of protein versus three grams of protein So it's like yeah Not exactly a high protein food. Yeah, I now that I see that I do agree. I think that is an F-tier Protein item. Okay getting to our last couple on the list. This is a staple in my diet. Oatmeal, I have it every single morning, even when we're on the road, I always have oatmeal. But where does it fit on the protein list?
Starting point is 01:49:38 And the reason we would ask where it fits on the protein, it's very much like a bagel to me, actually. Yeah, it's in the bagel territory. It's a way of just getting some decent carbs fits on the pro. It's very much like a bagel to me actually Yeah, the bagel territory way of just getting some some decent carbs in in the morning Yeah, I would almost put it next to the bagel because it's kind of a similar concept Where your car your it's a maybe a relatively healthy carb source We're getting a little bit of protein along with it, too, but do you ever eat your oatmeal plain tanner? I? bit of protein along with it too. But do you ever eat your oatmeal plain tanner? I usually at least put, the least I'll do
Starting point is 01:50:09 is put raisins in it. Oh man, raisins is your staple in that? No, that's what I'm saying, that's the least I'll do. Like if we're at a hotel, like if we're at a hotel and they don't have my usual stuff with they have oatmeal I can get by with oatmeal with raisins oh or I actually could just eat oatmeal plain at this point too I don't because it tastes better it's like a bit it's actually just like a bagel I can eat a bagel plain but I never do that Yeah Because I would net like when I have the choice of like putting peanut butter or something on a big I'll always do that just like oatmeal I
Starting point is 01:50:53 If I have I can't eat it plain, but if I have the choice to make it better I'll always make it better by putting fruit in it So I'm looking yeah, this is just showing like a Quaker oats like instant oats a serving three grams of fat Five grams of protein twenty seven grams of carbs. So it is like a bagel with a little less protein I think yeah is how that would shake out to I'm not an oatmeal fan. I just don't I just don't really enjoy it. The only thing I'll ever do is occasionally I'll have the microwave Instant flavored oatmeal packets. There's like brown sugar macros would probably be a little worse
Starting point is 01:51:30 Yeah, those are gonna be higher because they actually have some flavor to them And occasionally I'll have one of those but that's For me oatmeal would be like a C tier item, but you're kind of leaning more towards B, aren't you? I'm actually, I would lean towards B, but I think C is still fine because it doesn't rank that high to me because where I could also, like bagel could also,
Starting point is 01:51:53 could be is BC to me because it's just, the ratios are actually, the ratios are actually the same because a bagel's 50 to 60 grams of carbs and 10 to 12 grams of protein and you said It's just the serving size. Yeah, you'd have to double the serving size and they're actually exactly the same Yeah, if I was to compare them straight up one to one though, I would pick the bagel every time over just plain oatmeal You know if I had to it's like if someone said okay, you have to eat one of these You know if I had to it's like if someone said okay, you have to eat one of these
Starting point is 01:52:30 Here's your breakfast today one just bowl of plain oatmeal or a or just one plain non toasted bagel I'd pick the bagel. I do not like a non If you let me toast it then I'm okay, but a plain non toasted bagel that and if you did I'm gonna be like I need a giant glass of water Dry but I would still pick that food. I just think it tastes way better than plain oatmeal every time. Like bread just tastes good. Always.
Starting point is 01:52:53 That's where I'm at on that one. Yeah, I'm good with C. Okay. What's left? Tuna packets is the only thing left on the list. Oh boy. Best for last Tuna packet star cast of course
Starting point is 01:53:19 What do we got for macros on this probably gonna be pretty good are we talking the chunk light tuna Yep, that's what it should be and I didn't even go with like one of the flavored ones like the home pepper ones because that's what it should be. And I didn't even go with like one of the flavored ones, like the lemon pepper ones, because that's a lot more palatable. See. I don't think the macros are probably that much different. This is uncharted territory for me because I don't think I've ever had a tuna packet in my life.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Oh yeah. I don't mind tuna at all and I actually do make it, but I don't think I've ever had it from a packet. When I worked out Menards, I brought these with me every single day Oh people hated you I hate these every day really did it outside really? Yeah, because it's so easy. They don't require microwave. They don't require refrigeration and The breakdown on one of them and I did like the lemon pepper one
Starting point is 01:54:03 My favorite probably though is sweet and spicy I said even though there's like the sweet and spice these all the flavored ones are way better than the plain Plain one, but the macros 80 calories in a pouch Carbs nothing Fat nothing nothing Carbs, nothing. Fat, nothing. Protein, 17 grams. That is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:54:28 That might be like the best macros on this entire list for actual food. You know, not counting. And it tastes good. The downside, the smell of it. Yeah. And probably if I look closer, what else is in it? Sodium, 340 milligrams for 80 calories.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I imagine that ratio is quite high. You know, like a, it does have other decent stuff in it, though, too, if you look down the list on the, it's like, I think it's, yeah, B12, it's high in B12. It has a similar level of sodium to cottage cheese, so I mean not that bad. Are the, is that about the same? Yeah, the daisy cottage cheese are shown 350.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Okay, so it's similar. The macros on it are stellar. They are. The convenience on it is very high too because it requires no refrigeration. Oh, it doesn't, you just rip it and eat it? Just like that's all there is to it. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I would just use the fork method. So I'd always have a plastic fork with me. So are they in any type of, like what was the one you said you liked, lemon pepper? Sweet and spicy was always my favorite. So is that sweet and spicy? Is it getting that flavor through seasoning or a sauce of some kind?
Starting point is 01:55:44 It's a little different. like the sweet and spicy one. I, if I remember right, the meat is even slightly different colored. So I don't know if it's like you consider it a little bit of a sauce, but it's not like the lemon sauce though. No, no, no, no. It's not like, uh, okay. It's like lemon pepper, citrus meets pepper in this tango of taste. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:56:04 It all starts with our premium wild caught tuna. From there, it's prepared with refreshing lemon and cracked black pepper. This pouch goes well with pasta salads and busy schedules. Just tear, eat and go. Yeah, I would say forget the pastas and salads. And this is just for eating out of the pouch. Although I rarely have these anymore, but we usually probably have some in the house
Starting point is 01:56:27 and I actually talking about it makes me, I'm like, I should have some of these more often because they are pretty good. Sort of way better than fricking sardines. Oh God, for sure. I don't mind tuna at all. I kind of enjoy it a little bit, but what I've noticed lately is I tried to start eating more tuna and I don't know if it was in the preparation
Starting point is 01:56:52 stage or what, but nothing on this entire list gives me more gut issues than tuna. Oh, really? I don't. Is that a common thing for people? I have no idea. I don't know. And like when I'm making my tuna, this is what I usually do. I go grab a can of it. I drain all the juice out. I put it in a bowl. I do just like a dash of mayo, like a little bit of mustard, and then some salt and pepper and some garlic powder.
Starting point is 01:57:17 I'd mix it up, and then I'd put it on some bread, just like a little tuna, just a very basic tuna sandwich. And within like an hour, my stomach feels like it is just turning over, and it took me a while to pick up on that because I'm like, there's no way this is doing that. And then after having it once a week for about a month and a half, I'm like, yeah, it is the tuna, there's no other way around it.
Starting point is 01:57:40 It's like my stomach's doing flips, nothing else gives me that feeling. And that's kind of annoying because it'd be just a great way to boost, like you were saying, boost those macros. I enjoyed the taste, but for whatever reason, tuna seems to be off the list for me right now. I don't think I've ever had it out of a can. I've only ever bought these portions before.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Because the way I just bought them for like to take to work and stuff. Oh yeah, that's convenience is number one. Yeah, because the can has the water in it, you know, you got a drink that water off it stinks. I Could never know particularly I would never mess with tuna in a can if I was not at home I could not imagine being that guy at all. I Do That being said and I talked a lot of good about it, they don't taste that good though.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Yeah, it's not like nutritious. No, it's not like an awesome, it's not as good as a chicken bake or the cheese pizza or the cheeseburger. Or even beef jerky for that matter. Not really, yeah. But the macros are a home run, I would say, on macros. Yeah, it's one of the best macro items on the whole list.
Starting point is 01:58:48 But actually, you have veto power because you haven't used your. Yeah, I don't feel this strongly about this. So I mean, like I was just saying, I like tuna. It just doesn't, for whatever reason, it doesn't feel good when I eat it. So I'd probably be. That'd be a B to me, me actually is what it would be because the macros are so good And I kind of do like the taste of it, but I don't have it that much
Starting point is 01:59:12 So that has to make me think like do I like it that much see as of six months ago? I would have been an easy beat here Maybe even an a it's just the fact that I feel like I can't eat it it always agitates me So like from personal preference, that would bump it down to a C for me. But I could easily see this being a B though. I would totally understand that argument. We'll go B.
Starting point is 01:59:35 B's pretty empty. We'll go B. And the macros are so good. So redeeming there. Yeah. Okay. And the price. That's a pretty good spread.
Starting point is 01:59:44 The list is done. Should we do a very very quick recap Should I look at F tier we have gallon of whole milk a day gallon of it tofu Sardines and the what's that Lenny and Larry's cookie? Yeah, all F tier items C tier We got beef jerky peanut butter cheddar cheese Costco food court cheese pizza cheeseburgers and oatmeal, B tier wings, bagels and tuna in a pouch. A tier. It does also have to, I think it has to be
Starting point is 02:00:16 tuna in a pouch. Of course. It's not canned tuna, it's the pouch. A tier, we got the Oikos Greek yogurt, or actually any flavored Greek yogurt for that matter. Pure protein bars bars the chicken bake That's a very weird chicken bake photo the Fairlife chocolate milk and
Starting point is 02:00:33 whey protein and S-tier we have the One and only cottage cheese and right next to it our eggs I would say my biggest issue with this entire list would be eggs are not an S tier protein source for me. But I used my veto on that. So what I was gonna say is you had a couple in the A that you wanted to make a case for S
Starting point is 02:00:55 and you haven't really used your veto. So if you wanted to move one up, well then you could have the. Yeah, this is a really tough one for me though because most of those items in a outside of the chicken fake aren't really real food You know like right protein shake kind of what knocks them down for the most yeah, like it's what about the Greek yogurt though Well, but then it is just the principle of that standing next to cottage cheese, which I mean you are right like that is I Mean if we can make a very specific point that we're not talking plain Greek yogurt here like this is specifically
Starting point is 02:01:30 Flavored Greek yogurt to me that is an s tier item so Yeah, I could be down with that. That's I mean it's a pretty solid. It's tasty I just moved it. I curls are really good Greek yogurt is now an s tier item. Let it be on record though We are not talking plain Greek yogurt. We're not mixing this into food. This is flavored Greek yogurt to be enjoyed Like like the item it is meant to be enjoyed also if it's really specific I almost think kind of cheese is like s plus to your
Starting point is 02:02:00 We're adding we're taping another tier to the top of this list It's going to 11. I... Yeah, eggs are interesting because the macros aren't as good. The macro breakdown isn't good with the fat being almost completely equal. It is one of the most versatile items on the entire list though. Yeah, I could almost see it going down to an a but Then I wouldn't like it being just the Greek yogurt
Starting point is 02:02:41 These two dairy extracts on the top, right? Right? Yeah Well, it's kind of by nature. We left out all the normal, right. Yeah. Well, it's kind of by nature. We left out all the normal meat sources. Yeah. Yeah. The closest thing we got to a normal meat source would be chicken wings, beef, jerky, like tuna and sardines. Sorry, this is a normal meat source. Because if we were just having chicken breasts and, you know, T-bone steaks and
Starting point is 02:03:00 stuff like a lot of that would have been up there. Yeah. Because when you say that at first, like, yeah, Why is it just like a couple of dairy like what I'm like? We kind of eliminated off Stake and Just lean cuts of meat. Yeah, so that actually made doesn't then I think that that I feel actually somewhat okay about eggs being up there because something's got to be up there and actually somewhat okay about eggs being up there because something's got to be up there and Something's got to be keeping that Greek yogurt and cottage cheese company and like you said the other a stuff. It's all just like
Starting point is 02:03:45 Protein shakes that one is one you make protein powder the protein shake you make yourself fair life a protein shake That's made for you pure protein bars protein shake a bar for made into a bar. Yeah, that's all what that stuff is and that's I mean That's it's what's hard to wreck not recommend those because they're really good at what they do But you don't want that to be your entire diet either because that's not real food at the end of the day, right? But just for looking at this though, just say that top tier of the list, okay, you have two servings of cottage cheese in a day. What's that, like 26, or is it 13 grams of protein per serving?
Starting point is 02:04:15 Yeah, I think that's right. So like 26 grams of protein right there. You have a Greek yogurt. You're at about 40 grams of protein right there. You throw in, let's's just say three to four eggs You're looking at Like what another 20 some grams of protein there so now you're at like 60 some you have a you have a pure protein bar You're at like 84 you have a protein shake. You're at like a hundred and eight you have a fair life
Starting point is 02:04:41 You're like 120 you haven't really ate much food and you've had 120 grams of protein already and your other macros are relatively low Yep That's why they called. That's why they called a tearless And that's it we did it I Think that's all and I think everyone that listens and sees the this graphic like on the internet will agree perfectly with us I don't know what they that's otherwise. I mean we solved the problem. There's nothing to argue. We did the work for them There's nothing let us know down in the YouTube what you would have placed differently which of these items Would you have placed in different tiers?
Starting point is 02:05:18 Which items would you have added to the list altogether that we you know? What do we just omit that you think definitely needs to be on this list outside of just a regular lean cuts of meat that we kind of just Avoid it a little bit. So what else needs to be on the list and what did we get wrong in your incorrect opinion? I just emailed the graphic to you Tanner so you can okay a poster of that hang it up for People learning there put it next to the music one and everyone back up Two for two two home runs they did here These guys know they're tearless. Go put that on the door at the gym people. Yeah. Yep. I got it with no further context
Starting point is 02:06:02 I'll put this one and the music song one next to each other. Are they supposed to be connected? Or what are they doing? What's the goal here? People are gonna be pissed when they see milk in the after. I know that. Some people will be. Ah, is that milk next to tofu and sardines?
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Starting point is 02:08:04 Mastodon mix to save 10% on your next order. Thank you barefoot shoes We'll wrap this up here pretty soon, but did you see Tommy that the apparently the knee sleeves are allowed again Yeah In the IPF. Yeah, they're allowed again. I did see that Actually, this kind of ties into my Training notes. Okay. So yes for a few that know we had an episode about this the stiff knee sleeves got banned by the IPF from like everyone except SPD apparently they're back now which because of why not I guess like it's just this flippy floppy thing that no one seems to know and
Starting point is 02:08:44 today I Like it's just this flippy floppy thing that no one seems to know and Today I Had an rp10 squat day. My trains been going excellent things have been going so good just feeling unstoppable And I thought you know what we're getting close to meet day There's really only like honestly like five ish squat sessions left You know it's time to get back on that SBD. All right, so to get back on that Pioneer Knee Sleeve Train, baby. Like, let's do this. And what also really started it was a week ago, my left SBD knee sleeve always fits a little tighter,
Starting point is 02:09:14 and last week was the first time ever where I'm like, I actually couldn't think I could get my left one on. Right one went on fairly easily, left one, it was a- Your Pioneer one. No, my SBD one. I couldn't, it was so tight, I could not get it on my left leg it was a I almost quit but I'm like I can't be messing up my squat now like I actually do really like knee sleeves and the idea of not having that is not sit well with me yeah I'm like
Starting point is 02:09:38 yep this is the week rp10 we're going up to the pioneer ones like they suck they suck to put on but it's just the pain. Like I'll deal with it. It's fine. And so I warm up. I don't put my, I don't put my knee sleeves on until after I take 315. And so I go and I put these things on for the first time
Starting point is 02:09:57 since the meet last year. And I know how much, like they're, they're fairly easy to get on. Like it's not that hard for me to get them on. It's just once I do that final flip up, the tourniquet has been activated and the time and pain city here we come. And you know, I said last year,
Starting point is 02:10:14 like my legs have clearly gotten bigger. So my SBD ones are tighter. Well, these pioneer ones are even tighter now. And I took my first rep and I'm like, this is not good. Like actually feel like I'm having nerve damage or like, I'm going to act like it. I'm not even exaggerating. I actually thought I was causing damage to my lower legs.
Starting point is 02:10:32 And I'm like, maybe I just need to like wake these up. And I even tried to jump. And I'm like, I actually think I would have a hard time. Like I jumped like two inches off the ground. I'm like, I don't know if I could jump higher because I think my legs would give out because they're so, I'm like, I don't know if I could jump higher because I think my legs would give out because they're so, I'm like, I don't know. Is this how you get blood clots?
Starting point is 02:10:49 I don't even know. Like it was so uncomfortable, so bad. And where I screwed myself, like I'm just pissed now. I were screwed myself is they were so tight in my legs that somehow I don't know through compensation, my glutes were like cramping on me even. So my calves are getting Charlie horses. My glutes are even tightening on me. I don't know, through compensation, my glutes were like cramping on me even. So my calves are getting charley horses. My glutes are even tightening on me.
Starting point is 02:11:08 I can't stand. I also can't sit because I have to be in this crazy like leg extended position. So anyways, I'm an idiot, so I just empowering through it. So I take 365 and I'm like, that felt terrible. Like it moved just fine, but everything about it felt terrible. I take four, so I'm supposed
Starting point is 02:11:25 to work up to 445 for a set of five. I take 405 and I've squatted over 405 for every squat session for like two months now. So that's not a number that I think twice about at all. And same thing feels God awful, feels terrible. And I walk away and I'm like, I think something's wrong with my back actually. And like, I'm just, something's not's wrong with my back actually and like I'm just something's not right And so the final warm-up was gonna be like 425 430 yeah, and so I put it on and I'm like still thinking like no I'm just gonna have to power through this and I get under it and I'm like I can't I
Starting point is 02:11:59 Can't like get my brace correct on my you know my midsection I'm trying to stand up with 425 and I can't, it's the only time in my life when I've unracked a squat and I'm like, no, something's not, like it actually hurt my back just unracking it. And I think the little things on my legs were so damn tight that it was like distracting and distracting me from getting a proper brace.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Bracing. Yeah, so I stood up with it and immediately set it right back down, didn't take a spot out. And I actually backed out because I'm like, is my belt not on right? Like, what am I doing? I've never in my life had that feeling of like, I can't get a brace.
Starting point is 02:12:32 Right. My brace is always locked in on squat. Like, that is a guarantee. Like, I think that's where my confidence comes from, is I feel so good. And I like step back and I'm like, what is off here? And I'm like looking at my belt, I'm like, no, my belt's tight like it always is like yeah, nothing's changed there
Starting point is 02:12:47 So I went back to it and I got under it again And I'm like no this actually hurts my back and so I called it there and I'm like, you know I'm gonna do I'm just gonna start this squat day over with my SPDs. I'm gonna make them get on my legs. Yeah, and So at this point I'm all like hot and bothered and flustered also it's 86 degrees in the garage which came out of nowhere I'm not used to either. Yeah, and so I start I'm like, no, I'm just gonna start this whole thing over really annoying but we're gonna do this and as I start going things over I'm like no I've I'm finally resident. I actually have tweaked my back like it's very frustrating very annoying and
Starting point is 02:13:24 Every other time it's been a long time, so I've had some very minor tweaks in the past year. Like something like, ah, this just kind of is annoying, but within three days I'll be totally fine, and not enough to even derail training at all. And as time went on, I was like, nope, nope, I definitely, this is like the worst tweak I've had in quite a while.
Starting point is 02:13:42 And I don't know. It's so weird, so confusing. Of like what it was exactly. Cause every other time I've done it, like where it's a more severe one, I can specifically pinpoint like, oh, I felt that instantly happen there. Right, like the appointed time.
Starting point is 02:13:57 I can't even really say the time I really felt, it was somewhere in those warmup reps. Like it felt a little uncomfortable for that one I was trying to take off, um, it's a weird one. I don't know. I'm hoping that maybe like this squat day for sure isn't happening this week. Like this was super annoying, you know, being like, what, seven weeks out, eight
Starting point is 02:14:17 weeks out that I'm going to miss an RP 10 squat day. I know it's not make or break. I also know if this was me a few years ago, or even when I was younger, it would have been like, no, we're giving it the berry. You know, we're going all in. And I would have like been crawling out of the gym. So I'm hoping that, you know, in a few days from now, and I'm fairly confident in a few days from now,
Starting point is 02:14:33 I'll probably be totally normal where this is kind of screwing me is that we're doing a family trip to Disney World next week. So I already planned on not lifting at all, or maybe walking away to like go to the hotel gym if there even is one and doing like some goblet squats and some dumbbell work. If that's even a thing, like that might not even
Starting point is 02:14:52 be a thing there. So now I'm like, God, I'm kind of not really lifting this week and I'm not lifting next week for sure. I'm like, damn, that's like two weeks of almost not lifting. Like that's definitely not ideal, given the situation of what I'm trying to do here. Especially when it felt like things were just going, just so good.
Starting point is 02:15:12 So I don't know. I think it's good that you'll have the forced break. Yeah, yeah, I'll have the forced break in. And like I had, I told you this, because for me for Juggernaut, RP 10 deadlift day is the week before RP10 Squat and Bench Day. And last week, the heaviest deadlift I've ever taken on Juggernaut was 465.
Starting point is 02:15:33 And I've done that several times now, and it's moved great. It had me load up 505, which I've only touched on a deadlift ever a handful of times, like counting singles and everything. I was supposed to move it for four. I moved it for two that went great. Perfect form, incredible, move very well. And then the third one was the first one
Starting point is 02:15:54 where it even started to slow down and it just had this thing in my brain where once I get to my knees and it slows down enough, I just have this thing where my back's like, nope, I'm out, I'm out. And I don't know if it's just years of mental scarring of just the worst, most annoying nagging back injuries. And so I quit that, so it was supposed to be a set of four.
Starting point is 02:16:15 I did two. In my mind, I rate it as a nine and a half because it's like, is the muscle, is the strength there to do three? I really think it is, the way it moved and everything. I just mentally can't commit to a real grinder on the deadlift yet. And so that was kind of a weird day for me,
Starting point is 02:16:31 where it was like things were, it wasn't the worst thing to happen, it was a pretty good thing. And that was on a Friday, today's Wednesday I was recording this, so my back felt totally, the next day, I wonder if you've even known I did a back deadlift day.
Starting point is 02:16:42 My back felt great, which I'm like okay. So it wasn't like it was from that? No, it wasn't from that at all Like I was feeling really good actually and I actually just moved my squat day back this week So I'm like, oh we're lifting on Saturday. So right I'll just you know I usually do most of my lifts within like a four or five day span So I'm like, I'm not gonna squat on Monday and wait all the way until Saturday to bench so I'll just kind of move everything back and
Starting point is 02:17:02 yeah, for whatever reason I I mean, I gotta blame myself for mixing stuff up, but I really think that those frickin knee sleeves Messed my whole setup so much. There's so yeah, they're so insanely tight I think it actually messed me up when it came to performing my spot correctly I've still never actually had some on before so I can't even really relate to what it even What it feels like because I've never been able to wear them Well, so I got that and then on top of that also I finally for the first time ever bought a second pair of wrist wraps And I got the a7 ones. Oh, yeah, and now I have these longer wrist wraps
Starting point is 02:17:37 And so I'm like messing with these knee sleeves that are way too tight pissing me off I have like these wrist wraps that all of a sudden feel like I'm wrapping around my I'm like I feel like I'm just like messing with equipment and I'm not even lifting. I'm so annoyed in my head the whole time here. Right. Oh, I think I'm going to be fine. And like no one, you know, no, I guess the words of wisdom, if I have those, I know no one training session makes or breaks a prep through. I'm not all of a sudden like this training session isn't magically going to add 20 pounds to my PR, but also towards the end of a prep, you don't want to be missing the days where you're testing
Starting point is 02:18:15 yourself. So it's more of a mental thing, I think, than anything. And then it is, I feel pretty confident right now that I can be back to 100% by the time, you know, my next wave starts here, but it's just an annoying setback this far in the process. Right, yeah, like you said, especially on like an RPE 10 day when it's, it's just nice to check it off and be like, yep, we're on track.
Starting point is 02:18:38 I know, and I was so confident, I felt so great. Like I was so confident going into this one. I'm like, I'm gonna smoke these. I know, I know it, I'm gonna smoke these. I know it, I know it. They're gonna go so good. And yeah, never even got a chance to load them up. So we will see. Yep.
Starting point is 02:18:56 And there again, it's those damned super tight. Damn stiff knee sleeves now! Stiff knee sleeves, yeah. But now I'm in a conundrum because I don't know, maybe I need to wash them. I've also had this thing in the past where I feel like if you go long enough without washing your knee sleeves, that like the salt and whatever they collect from your sweat, it's almost like it makes them tighter. So I think maybe if I just wash them, it'll maybe loosen them up a touch. Because then I'm in the situation where I guess my legs Have now gotten big enough that they don't fit my knee sleeves
Starting point is 02:19:28 So I need new knee sleeves again, and I don't want to get SBD ones cuz you know everything's going on But I also know how they fit so it's like well I also don't want to get some other brand of the don't fit totally off on the size and it'd be in the same Predict it's so annoying. It's so annoying that what I'm going through right now So this is I mean everyone feel sorry for me power lifters feel predicates. It's so annoying. It's so annoying that what I'm going through right now. So this is what everyone feels sorry for me. Quick power lifters feel like, oh, it's so stupid. It's so dumb. Trying to get their suits right.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Yeah, just like, I just want these things to feel the way they felt for the last year, not the way they felt for the last two weeks. Right. So not as good of a training update overall. No, no. I still might be able to salvage a bench day on Saturday There might be a chance there I can just bench with more of a flat back like that's not
Starting point is 02:20:09 The end of the world side. I'm not feeling terrible unless things actually I wake up tomorrow things are really bad, right? But I'm still hopeful for Saturday and then it's like well, I kind of salvaged the week then but right we will see It's a game time decision as they say time will tell Right. We will see. It's a game time decision, as they say. Time will tell. Anything else for this week? We kind of that's probably it. We're going long. Yeah, yeah.
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