Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 478: Top Powerlifting Myths Busted!

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

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episode 478 of the Mastinomics podcast recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas By your favorite two Mastinomics hosts your only two Mastinomics hosts at least for the last seven or eight years My name is Tanner and my name is Tommy If you're hoping for someone else to host your sadly and we sadly disappointed again this week for like another Guy with a beard and a guy with wool in his hair Is that wall in you if I was you I would have wool in my hair. That's all yet This week's episode 478 is brought to you By the strength Co. We were just talking about the Strength Co actually in our pre-show.

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Yeah, I wanna kick off by, we're actually finalizing a couple important aspects of this but it's likely That there will be a new drop the week that this episode drops. We're looking at June 5th Thursday There is a chance that could get pushed back one week. We got we're leading all's in the air There's so many late all's in the air, right? There's at least one ball in the air that we don't want to crash and break It's a glass ball and we have to catch it delicately and figure out which

leak weak it's going to land us on. So possibly the fifth, if not the fifth, we're looking at the 12th. And this drop, there's a couple shirts in this drop. One of them is brand new, brand new design. Never before seen. I've been seen by a a couple the design ish has been seen by a couple people that we got a couple sneak peeks on things but Nothing that we've ever printed on anything before so it's brand new. It's a heck of a cool shirt actually This is gonna be a very something really cool the other one is

updated take on It's actually is a new design, but it's an updated take on something we've done before, I guess is what I would say a new and improved version. And then Oh, then we're like, no surprise, it seems like we're almost like, bi monthly changing the game and drink safety at this point. So that's just what we do. How can at a certain point you say, how can you change drink safety? How can there be anything left?

But there always is. Yeah, so stay tuned for that drop, in which that reminds me, horse stall mat coasters restocked as of hours ago. They are literally fresh off the press. I just, I got a fricking five gallon pails full of them all over my basement right now, so I like the behind-the-scenes How the sausage is made I didn't I didn't know how they actually did that I was kind of cool Yeah, yeah, that's on the water jet. I had a video of the water jet going on and that's how they're cut

Maybe get a video of how they're printed one time too and show that off also You probably arrange that but the horse stall mat coasters are back. They've actually been selling pretty quickly Even just this they've been so like horse stall mat coasters. So If that pretty much says it all yeah So if you do want one don't wait on the horse stall mat coasters because those are never a quick restock as a matter of fact, that just gets exceptionally more annoying every time we have to restock it. I have to go through this process again.

It requires Tanner driving many miles for the delivery. Yes. And then hand scrubbing way too many pieces of horse doll mat coaster. Hey, what you do for made in America goods that we don't make. Sure. I'm going to just how it works. Die from a particulate inhaling Made in America goods. We don't make sure I'm gonna just how it works die from Particular inhaling a horse stall mat particular micro plastics. It's micro micro rubber. It's like well, we're detecting like a Percentage of your body is made up of horse stall mat. This man is just part horse stall mat. What's going on here? That's What we're what we're headed towards.

Episode 478 now with new and improved autofocus on my camera, keeping my eye on the autofocus and it seems to keep you working here. So we're in for big things. This sharp over YouTube listeners have been busting the old ball sack on the autofocus getting blurry. So do I have a I don't have blurry on here. Oh, my music list and everything so blurry. How about this as a consolation?

Do I have this consolation? I mean, that's just the prize right there. That's what I think. When I think about how in focus this video is going to be. Man, that's a lot of focus. Oh, yeah. Locked in. What do you got a can over there this week, Tommy?

I do got a can over here this week. Yeah. What are you drinking? Some of that sip and that scissor. Just me and my scissor. this week Tommy I do got a can over here this week yeah what are you drinking some of that sipping that says just me and my sister like always I don't eat the pancakes I just sip the scissor I can't think what's on this what song is only the pancake oh yeah what song I don't know what song that is that looks limey over there What do you lime in is a very limey?

You know what I've got. I don't know if I've had this before or not It's a through the wire Roy there it is through the wire, okay Yeah, what is that a frickin flower is that a guy like Roy sunshine? Okay, they're getting a little McCroy you can count on them for keeping it old school sunshine Let me try Doesn't taste like what I thought it was going to I don't like the floral lacrosse on traditionally But sunshine, it's a floral, you know, I get it. There's a big shot of giant flop There's a flower on the can but the flavors called sunshine. Come on. I don't even know what flavor I would classify this as it's not bad

Though I would give this probably a three and a half really actually quite It's quite a bit better than what I thought floral flavor at three and a half. It's not real, but that's the thing It's a way tastes way more fruity than it does floral. It actually tastes more citrusy than Description on the can I want to know what the flavor notes are there Um, I'd love it if they did it's naturally essenced Calorie free I Google no sweeteners. No seed sodium ready for it Oh, yeah, what do you got? I want to see if it matches as described as a bright and refreshing blend of citrus and tropical zest. Yep That's a good feeling of a sun kiss day

Yeah, so it's kind of it's not florally. It is more what much more citrus. So that's what makes it kind of good. Yeah Okay, I could see that a little bit. I'm all you know, the citrus flavors are You know what my real emotion I feel is when I try that what? Remember remember those ads it was like this is your brain on five gum and like it was the craziest Lane and like a speaker like a guy laying in a speaker, like a pool of bubbles. And it's, LaCroix needs to do that. This is your brain on LaCroix, and then you'll take a sip, and then the crazy bitch song

starts playing in the background. This is your brain on LaCroix. You know how old I am? I remember that commercial, This Is Your Brain on Drugs, actually airing on television. Oh, I forgot about that one. I was thinking of the five gum one.

Do you know? I know what you're thinking of, but like that's much newer than like this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs and he cracks the eggs in the frying pan. Yeah. If you remember watching that on television, you are old. Do you remember the one though? I'm pretty sure there's been jokes made about this of like, it's like doing weed. Isn't cool.

And it's like the girl like melted into the couch and she's like all weird and everyone's like Oh, that looks pretty cool I Wish I could say I remember that one, but I don't really remember that one I I also don't remember this. I don't remember this just Google weed couch ad and just watch what comes up It's like yeah, she's like it looks, she's like, it looks like she's like all flattened out. Oh, that does look really familiar actually too.

Yeah, I wanna remember, it was something like, yeah, like I just found the Reddit post. It's like, oh man, I wanted to get- Above the influence. Yeah, that was like a campaign. The caption, I wanted to get that high. Been there, feels so good. It was a bit of a backfire.

Yeah. Bit of a bit of a bit of a backfire. OK, OK, one other one I just thought of. Yeah. The one where they're like, yeah, I'll get five cheeseburgers and then they go hoarder and then it like shows them again at the drive-through and every day like I'll get 10 Cheeseburgers and they go through and then it's like another day. I'll get 10 cheeseburgers and then that time There's like a girl riding her bike through the drive-through and they run a girl on her bike like the commercial ends Again, I mean, yeah, it's messed up but some sometimes the presentation of these the delivery

I don't like those commercials like that real donors for me real vibe real really kills a vibe Don't care for those Okay So good cans good drinks Mmm, we talked about the new drop or at least alluded to some things that are coming there. I actually got to know about this right away. I meant to ask about it last week.

And I'm moving it to the very top of the list because I can't go another second without hearing about what the heck is going on with the Chevy Malibu. Don't give us the bad news. Well, don't do it. I guess I'll start with the good news is it's in a better place now No

It's in a place where someone else can enjoy it No, I will say this If I could open a business selling Chevy Malibu's I would be a very rich man because I've did you have no trouble selling it? I like what we assume it was last Friday. I'm like, you know what? Because I've been dragging my feet on it, just have a lot of shit going on. It was last Friday. With everything going on.

With everything going on. Was at Disney till Thursday. Got home Friday morning, just took care of the bare minimums. And I'm like, I'm not gonna start anything Friday afternoon here. Like it's, I got four hours left. I gotta just get this week over with. Like, you know what?

I'll go wash my car. I'll give it kind of my quick, quick superficial detail that I do. I'll get it cleaned up. I'll go take some photos of it. I'll get this posted. So I go give it one final hand washing. Go to the car wash where you wash it yourself.

Or you can really give it the TLC it needs. Really get intimate with it one last time. I got the car wash where you wash it yourself for I can really give it the TLC it just really get intimate with it One last time I got the car seats out of it got all of the Fruit snacks that had been smashed into the crevices removed all the granola crumbs and bites everywhere We got it so clean and immaculate that after then you're like, do I really? Detail kid. I got it out. I clean it on the leather I wiped everything down and Inside was looking pretty fresh

Got the outside looking extra fresh because it looks so good after I wash it up and Then I have my boy with me and like alright, we'll go to the I need to find a neutral backdrop so we take it to one of the parks in town luckily there was no one in the parking lot kind of a You know somewhat neutral nature background. I take some photos of it Get that part done. I come home. It's five o'clock I post use chat gpt obviously five o'clock somewhere I I feed in chat gpt chat gpt. I'm selling my 2009 malibu It's been one owner. You know. I give it all the details. Give me the sales pitch.

Yep, it creates the highlights for me. There's a couple details that got wrong. I had to have it spruce up a few things for me. And I posted it probably, I don't know, it might've got posted at like 5.30 or 6. And while we were podcasting that night, someone reached out. That's how it was towards the end of the podcast.

I saw the message come in and I was very taken by it. It was like nine o'clock and the first, it was the first message I got. It said, we are seriously interested in this. Can my husband come look at it tomorrow morning? I said, yep, just let me know. Like as soon as we got done podcasting. And in the morning, I was starting to have other people

ask me about it. And so this first person, because these other people were asking questions and which is fine, but this first is fine. But this first person got time for no frigging questions. Like, Hey, are you coming or leave it? Like you come in to look at this thing? And she's like, Oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry, I'm at work. I'll send I'll tell my husband to come right away. And so he shows up, we hop in the car, we go down probably two miles. I'm kind of giving him the full rundown on everything, letting them know of the any known issues or flaws with the car, what I like about it, what I don't giving him the buddy caps known issues, I was I was

giving it all to him. And we were probably three minutes into the car ride. And he's like, Ah, yeah, I mean, I guess we'll do this. Oh, that was easy. Yeah. so we got out of the car, and he goes, because it was Saturday morning, he's like, well, I guess it's a holiday weekend, so we need to wait till Tuesday. I'm like, oh, no, no, it's not noon yet. The banks are still open, man.

And he's like, oh, okay, yeah, well, let's go then. So we went right to the bank, literally, we both went to Wells Fargo. He got the cashier's check. I gave them the cashier's check, just like that. Oh, you went with him to the bank, literally both went to Wells Fargo. He got the cashier's check. I gave them the cashier's check just like that. Oh, you went with him to the bank? Yeah, I just met him there. Like I went with him there.

Oh, you didn't ride together in the Malibu? No, no, no, we didn't ride together. That would've been weird. Yeah, he had people picking him up and obviously my wife had to, I had to have a ride back. So you brought the Malibu to the bank. I brought the Malibu to the bank. He was driving there.

He had actually got the cashier's check just ahead of me. But then I walked in and they're like, oh we're giving it back. Huh? I'm like, yep cuz I also bank about Fargo and I have the title in hand did the little sign off on everything and gave it to him and away they went and Counting the time I spent cleaning the car and making the pulse and everything I maybe had two to three hours of work into it and And did you respond to anyone else or did you just, I mean, I answered questions for other people.

Like they were asking me questions about it, but since someone said they actually did want to come look at it and I said, Hey, I have someone coming like in the next 30 minutes here. I said, if nothing happens of that, you're next on the list and I'll tell you. But so on the flip side of this, you know, you look at, all right, invested two to three hours of my time. How did it all pan out?

Well, when I went to go buy my first or when I went to go buy my car a month ago, what were they going to give you? My trade in value on it was going to be 3,200. Would it actually surprise me? That was more than I thought they would give me on trade in. Now, if you look at, okay, how did I price this thing? All right. You do Kelly blue book and you fill it out. And it's also like, also Kelly Blue Book is not like the end all be all. Like it's just a suggestion. But you know, it's asking you the condition. Well, I would like to know, is it very good, good, excellent?

I'm like, as far as Malibu's go from 2009, I would think this is excellent in the scheme of things, though. Is this an excellent car? Probably not, because it's also a car that's 16 years old. But the Kelley Blue Book range was coming somewhere between like 55 and 62, just depending on how you looked at it. But that seemed totally fair to me.

I would have been very happy with that. But then what really threw it for a loop is if you look at comps, comparables in the area. And I could not find a comp this car. I mean, it's orange Chevy country here. You know, like there's Malibu's around. I could not find one for less than like $8,000 that didn't look like garbage. Yeah, I'm like, ah, it just feels like that number should be higher than like kind of the 6000.

Kelly Blue Book is suggesting like even like, I mean, even they were saying like on the mid tier below five. So like really, actually, they were giving anywhere from range from five to 62. And so I ended up listening to at 6600 thinking like, Hey, didn't want to go 69. I didn't go 69. And I thought, you know, what, as long as I'm over six, I'm very happy with it. And also part of buying a car is people always want, they wanna negotiate a little bit, right? Isn't that the fun of the deal?

You gotta price it with some room for that. And so we got out of the car and the guy goes, all right, you got a new wiggle room? I'm like, I don't know, what do you think? And he goes, 6,000. I go, I'll meet you in the middle at 63. He's like, deal, done. And he's happy and I'm happy.

And their daughter in high school has a new car. And I saw her. That's what I wanted to know what though use for the car was going to a daughter and she was, she was hyped on it. She thought it was so cool. You know, she's already got in an accident with a fender bender has already been accomplished. One of my cars in high school, I had, I had a Chevy Monte Carlo in high school

and I thought it was a nice one. I thought it was good. And I got a different car. My dad sold it to one of our family friends. I think they had the car a month before someone re-rendered it and totaled the damn thing. So anyways though with the Malibu, my point is is I put about three hours of work in. I made a little over three thousand dollars versus what the dealership was going to give me. So what I'm saying is if you have a car that's worth less than ten thousand dollars, don't be afraid to put that thing on marketplace. Yeah.

Almost any vehicle though, on marketplace. I mean, yeah, it depends on, if your vehicle's trashed and bad, but at the same time, Even then you'll still get more on marketplace than you would on a trade-in. Yeah, if you just go in with a realistic idea of, I mean, it's gonna not be great value,

but you're gonna get more than you would on a trade-in. Actually, my youngest brother, his girlfriend, just bought a new car, and she had, she was driving like a 2002 Trailblazer with like 180 or 190,000 miles. Like just based on those, you're like, yeah, that car's probably worth nothing, you know,

but like on those numbers. And I think when she went to trade-in, it was one of those things where the dealership was gonna give her like a couple hundred dollars for it. It was basically the disposal. It's like, yeah, we're taking care of this for you. But they did the same thing, put it on marketplace and it took them like a week or two, but they had a guy, I think they bought it for like $2,600. And he's just like, oh yeah, I just need an old

beater. I know how to work on these things. And like for someone like that, it's perfect. Right. I was using a chat GPT to do some vehicle valuation for me just like yesterday or the day before. I had them help me with asking for comps on mine, and they were giving me like 3,500 to 4,500. Like they were way off. I was asking for comps too. I'm like, find comparables for sale. And then I'm like, these are all like,

I know this is what I'm saying. I'm like, these are all like double or triple the miles. Find a comparable. And then it did a little bit better job. I'm like, this still, this has like 50,000 more miles., find a comparable. And then it did a little bit better job. I'm like, this still, this has like 50,000 more miles, like find a comparable. And cause it was, and I'm like, wouldn't, I'm like, wouldn't mine be worth more?

It only has 58,000 miles, not 125,000. And like it was eventually coming around to that, but it didn't wanna, like it was, but it was took a lot of like, be like checking the work and you know. That's one where I think it is easier just to like pull up cars.com and just do a big search of like a 200 mile area and you can get a pretty good feel

for what's out there in a hurry. I think so. Do you, you talked, you explained one time about a Instagram post about a Instagram post about a guy on a, uh, elevator and it was a really awkward conversation. Brent. Okay. That was a different. So do you know who Johnny Hamchek is?

No, I saw you put this in here. I've never heard of it. I don't, I don't know what that means. It's, uh, I've seen a couple of his videos before and it was an Instagram account. Yeah. An Instagram account, probably-tock too, and it's a rabbit hole I've gone went down this past week where I probably watched like 50 of his videos and

I Don't even know if it's good at this time, but I'm just like semi addicted to watching them and it's this guy For anyone that's seen it. I don't need just don't even worry about my explanation fast forward three minutes you don't have to hear because I don't even know how to explain it but it's this guy you never see his face I'm just looking at the video so I can't hear him you got to hear it it's all audio it's all the dialogue that he's having he goes what he typically does he has about three or four things he does the most commonly he'll go up to some job site,

some guys in some neon vests out of any kind of job site. He'll start off usually like, hey, fucker, like what you'd say to somebody that your buddy's with. I think maybe I have worked this, maybe one of these before then. Yeah, Balboni sent me, like and he has these recurring names that he always goes to. And like, he's like, Balboni sent me like, and he has these recurring names that he always goes to and

like he's like Balboni sent me. He's like, you guys needed the six and a half foot chains. I brought them here and he's usually got these chains. Okay. I do see one here with chains here. And like it's always a little different, but it kind of always goes back to the same thing. He's like, he's like, did you hear about Mike at the barbecue? If Rick and he got decked in the side of the head and he got this wealth like one of the loony tunes and like all the

the justice is he's Talking to these people like he knows them You can just see How caught off guard they are and the varying levels of sometimes people just straight up going along with it. Like they like obviously and he'll be like, you remember me, don't you? And he'll be like, yeah, yeah, of course I remember you. And then it'll be like, what's my name? And they're like, oh, shoot, I can't remember it. And just like all this stuff. And sometimes people don't know him. And he goes on this or he'll walk up to like outdoor yoga

and he'd be like, oh, sorry, I'm late. And then he goes into this like, anyways, I don't know why but it's really, really funny to me. It's like hilarious to me. Yeah, I think I'm definitely gonna, I hit follow here. I'm definitely gonna watch some of these. I think I've seen, I'm pretty sure Ryan sent me one of these cause of the job site when you were talking about

where he was like, hey walkers, like going on about it. Like that does sound very familiar and I'm pretty sure Ryan sent me one of these because of the job site one you were talking about where he was like, hey, walkers. Like going on about it. Like that does sound very familiar and I'm looking through. But it's hard because it's just a random ass person is all you're seeing. It goes up to a guy in a department store. He does this a lot and he's like, oh, hey, you old piece of shit. It's just stuff like that.

Like it gets people laughing and then you can tell a lot of times the people think that they should know who he is or that they have to know. So they're thinking hard. Yeah. And it's just, it's really funny. But he is famous enough that occasionally people know who he is.

Oh, so yeah, it doesn't work then. And it kind of screws it all up. Yeah. Okay. So that's the one account that I've just been, I mean, it gets played out after you see it enough, but for whatever reason, it's still funny to me every time where I'm just like, I just have to watch to see what the people are gonna do.

And I just love the way he does it, especially on the job site one. So I'm like, this is so painfully accurate of the conversation. The people think he knows him because it's just like, that is exactly the kind of- Go into any small town bar and like, that's like the small

That's the small talk that's taking place of like yes, like kind of passive aggressive like chirping everyone The other one that I really like what is the name cart narks have you ever seen this? I don't like in here as well as Johnny ham check, but actually I don't even know if I like it But I got down a rabbit hole that I couldn't stop watching it it's Cartnarks where it's this guy he goes around to parking lots and Confronts people that don't put their carts away. Okay, I'm seeing it and he like Legitimately confronts these people all the time and like won't let them get away with just walking away And if they walk away, he has all these magnets that say I'm like, one of them says like, I'm a lazy bones.

Like he's like on their car. Yeah. If they won't come out, then he'll, he'll set a magnet on their car that says like, I'm a big lazy bones, something like that. And then they get out of the car. They're all pissed, of course. And they take it off and they throw it at him. And then he like has this little wand because he's the carton arc, you know, he's like wearing a vest and it's like his job.

And they're always like, what authority do you have? And then they'll throw it at him and he'll like, whap it away with his wand. And he'd be like, I deflected your attack. And he just gets people really pissed. And then they'll be like, I swear to God, if you put one more thing on my vehicle, I am going to beat the shit out of you.

And then he'll like fake put something on their vehicle. So they get out again like about ready to throw punches and he's like, oh got you with the classic fake out And like all he really wants them to do is put their carts away. Yeah, you know he is building this channel on like these Confrontations with people but it is also people that don't ever put their cart away, and I'm kind of like put your car away Just don't be a lazy piece of shit It's kind of there is a thing there I'm like yeah, you're and the number of people that won't just put the card away that will fight it to the bitter end Yes, well, that's the thing of like well now that you've told me to do something I can't I can't do it because now I'm gonna look weak

So you know that's gonna stand your ground even harder That's exactly what it is, and I'm just like Just put the card away it's the same thing as the lady that took your seat and you know and just Yeah, like there was no way she could be wrong because like she just can't look wrong. You know it's and I Here's what I'd say in my life I have before at time I usually almost always put the card away. There has been situations where I have not put a card away. If someone confronted me like that, I would honestly, I'd be like, you're right. Yeah, right. I'll put it

away. You know, like, like I usually do it. I whatever reason I thought I was in a rush. I mean, I basically always put my card away. But it's happened a few times. And I do watch and I think if I got caught, I would put always put my card away, but it's happened a few times in it. I do watch and I think if I got caught, I would just put my card away. I'd be like, yep. You're right. I'm sure there's been times,

there probably has been a time I haven't. I cannot think off the top of my head a time I have not put the card away though. But I'm not perfect. I really can't think of it. I probably have messed up. Right, right. But I always do it.

Like I always do it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, the Instagram account, the one that I like a lot is that I can't, I always do it. Like I always do it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The Instagram account, the one that I like a lot is that it's Infra Bren. And he just gets people in the elevator usually

a lot of times and he sings so awkwardly to them or makes like really dumb jokes to them. And he does the same thing of like, you know, he'll see some random person like, hey, there he is son of a gun. You know, say something stupid like that. And then again, talk to them like he knows them. And usually it's something very awkward or he'll go into like a Applebee's

and he'll order like a tall glass of Alfredo. Right, that's right. With like a shot of, yeah. I can't even remember like the one he goes to Apple and he brings out a picture of Shrek and he's like being the weirdest person he possibly can. And yeah, but then at times like- it's kind of on the line of Johnny Hamchuk. Yes, it's a very, yeah, very similar vibe to that, except this guy

comes off maybe a little more innocent than the ones who are just like, I don't know, maybe this guy's just really strange, but incredibly awkward if you're not into that type of humor. Like, Leah, when I show it to my wife, she's like, ah, I can't, like, it's like hurting her. She's like, I can't do it, I can't do it. I can't do it, no. Yeah, yeah. Okay, should we do supporting our supporting members? Yes.

That would have been better had I prepared supporting our supporting members for this week. So let me go a little off the cuff. See Big Bryce has been popping out more YouTube videos on his channel, so that's perfect little Swee's Gym on YouTube. Big Matt, that's his big Dutch Matt.

And Big Liz, both crew, they got married. I think this was just today. Did they know this was coming? Was it a surprise? They must surprise wedding. So I would say married one day. Yeah. Congrats on the funeral. There's some good funeral emojis on on his post in there actually. So I like that people know the vibe there. Bunch of people winning bunch of crew members winning in the garage gym competition giveaway stuff. I saw several

Crew members getting in on the action. So you do love to see that don't you you do. Yep. Keep it in the family We say yeah keeping it in the family. I like Big buck was at elite FTS and he did snake a picture of the Mastomix horse doll mat coaster on the table. So nice. It's still there. So you do love to see that. It's like it's like how you know Mastomix was there.

Yep. Even our mark all over. It's our calling card, so to speak. Yeah, we're like the wet bandits. Yeah. And that's about it for this week supporting our supporting members for a new one that doesn't know it's a relatively new segment We're on a shorter turnaround for the podcast this week because we recorded on right. I actually only been this week a few days

Yeah, it's only it It has not One week minus a few days. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's sort of been not that long. Like to my son, yeah we you know it's been a while but to me it's been forever. Yeah. Just seconds could be forever. Oh, yes when you're young enough But you could get on supporting our sporting members by becoming a supporting member It's just one of the ways we give back you go to a mass dynamics comm slash join. That's where you go to join up What we do is, you know, we this is one thing the other thing is there's a discount code That's only for supporting supporting members. That's in our discord It's how you get in in the discord

It's the only way you get on the our discord is by becoming a supporting member. You can listen to our pre-show It's unfiltered on recorded uncut extra grease. We record that each week. Well, we don't record that We have hosts that each week prior to the main recording Only way you get that is by being a supportive member. It's the only way you can listen along live. Like we have live listeners right now, you get access and info to drops. You get to access early to take advantage of the drops and our crew supporting member mailers.

It's the only way you get in on those. And we've talked about it. I think we brought it up last week. We do have one of those coming up what that is as we mail something special out to everyone That's an active supporting member at that point in time We try to do a couple of them a year and we've got a big one coming up in the summer of 2025 I Don't want to put the cart before the whole hort yes Cart before the horse on this one yet

But I do think it might be our most well-received supporting member perk Ever passed out. I'm very excited about it. It's it's gonna be good. We still have wheels in motion on this but We'll get to a finish line at some point on it. There will be a line on the sand. So the takeaway from that is just get signed up now. So you know for sure that you'll get in on it.

The surefire way to get in on it is get signed up now and don't let your membership expire between now and then. Should we do a certified training facility? Yeah, I was just trying to think, where do we want to go this time? Let's go to the YMCA with Waylon and Waley and the boys. Should we do a South Dakota one? We've never done a South Dakota one.

Oh, we haven't done a South Dakota one, just a North Dakota. I think just North Dakota. Okay. Do we have a South Dakota one? That we have not done a video on that also has photos. Pictures. I think we can accomplish that, right? With the tricky part is there, we've done a lot of,

what about Rapid City? We got a, we got something there. Yeah. This, oh, mostly South Dakota. are we looking at Chris's gym? Lba the bar LL. Yeah, what a DBA the bar What's the gym name again? Did you say Chris's gym LLC? Doing business as the bar Okay, you know if there's one thing I can appreciate it's a proper business structure

That's he's got us going right now I'm dealing with a professional here. Yeah, and This is out in Rapid City is this our lone West River I think I'm sorry hey, we're okay. It's slightly off-topic here, but weren't we just talking was it in a peer was it in? We're in Ohio were we saying we didn't have any Wyoming certified training facilities? I think so, but that one did fill up. Yeah, we got two now. I think what we're missing is Vermont and New Mexico.

New Mexico for sure. Yep, I'm looking at that right now. Vermont I have to zoom in on. We got someone right on the border. Wait, do we have Maine or what's what's this? No, Maine. I think Maine's missing. We have Maine, Vermont and New Mexico, because I don't think any of these ones

are in Vermont. They're very close, but. Yeah, they are very clean. Vermont and New Mexico. If you are a listener from one of those states and you have a home gym, why have you not become a certified training facility? Hey, we'll tell you right now, if you're in one of those three states and you sign up, you will be the certified training facility next week. We'll do it.

That's our promise to you. Yes, if you sign up from one of those three states. You're fast tracking the line here. That's your lightning lane. You're going right to the front. That's the lightning lane at Disney World so you can have your five seconds of fame on the Mastinomics podcast So what do you see in? Big Chris's well right away bar just the the wall decorations are top-notch

He's got a lift leg a lift ship flag a power lifting flag obviously a certified training facility flag Yeah, all those things are looking good He's got a stroller too He's also got that trampoline with the bar across it that you probably also do you also have that track? Oh god? Yes, yes, we do that black the black rubber has been like chewed on and ripped up. So it's barely there Yeah, we've all got that trampoline, don't we? Yep, got a couple of gas cans too. That's always good to have.

Yep. He has, that looks like the spin bike out of Masonomics Gym, honestly. Yes, yeah, okay. I was wondering why that looks so familiar because I don't have a spin bike. That looks exactly like that one, yes. And to the right of that is a double,

it's a full deadlift jack, looks like maybe like the Titan deadlift jack or something like that. And just to the right of that, you can see the Curl Bar fairy had made a visit. Of course, he was probably there right when he moved in, I would assume. We got a weight tree with some plates, so we got also a-

Are those the everyday plates on the bottom? Is that what they're called? is they might be it kind of looks like it and then yeah he's got kind of like what would you call like a wall like an upright vertical plate storage plate storage there too I see we got some adjustable dumbbells off to the side some plate loaded adjustable ones I can't tell if those are one inch or Olympic handles. I kind of an expert on those at this point. I've been around a few.

And then we have the rack, the centerpiece. I'm not totally sure what racket is. It kind of looks like a rep flat bench. I think that is a rep flat bench. That looks like a rep, doesn't it? Yeah. I think because it's got that little loop in the front. I'm pretty sure you can almost see the words rep there. It's got to be something like that

Two barbells cuz there's one in the rack There's also a one-leaf up against the wall. Do we got is that to two electric heaters up top there? I was gonna ask you what you think that's going on. That's what I would say electric heaters to me which shows the Likes to stay comfortable. So this is a garage Probably I'm gonna say probably it's a concrete floor. I suppose it could be a basement It could be a bedroom. Maybe It could be uh, but this is toolboxing stuff. This is a garage for sure I just like to do a lot of projects in his house. It's a project. Yeah. Yeah

well As I start to look at it more I just start to wonder Tommy do you think you could get strong here? Oh? Yes, you could definitely get strong there. Oh, hell yeah Stronger shit in there Hell yeah, we can get strong as shit in there. Absurdly. I think so. Excellent certified training facility

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Yeah. OK. So what are we doing here on this powerlifting? Yes. Is this a title topic? Because we don't have the proper intro. Wait a second. I think you are on to something. There we go. Feels a little better, doesn't it? Yes. Now I'm on to something. There we go. Feels a little better, doesn't it? Yes.

Now I'm ready to go. Okay. So what are we doing on powerlifting myths here? We, uh, we're kicking it old school. We're going back to our roots. We're talking training, talking, lifting over up in here. And we are going to dissect, analyze, and discuss some power lifting myths.

Some of these maybe you've heard, some of them you maybe haven't heard, but we're going to talk through these and see are they true, are they false? Maybe it's a little bit of both. Who knows? We'll find out. So we kind of use the list that we ran down. And some of these we might agree with a lot, and some of them we might say, ah, we don of use the list that we ran down.

And some of these we might agree with a lot. And some of them we might say, oh, we don't even really think that's a myth anymore. So we'll go down the list. So number one here, you have to be fat to be strong. The classic power belly myth. Yes, mass moves mass, but so does technique, leverages and programming. Here's a joke, I'm not fat, I'm just bulking year round. Say that and your friends will go,

oh my God, that's so funny. That is not a good joke. Okay, so you have to be fat to be strong. I mean, that's obviously not true. Like is that? No, and I think perception around this has changed a lot in like the last 10 to 15 years, where I think about when I started, it really did seem like there was a way more of like, no, you just have to get as large and heavy as you can. And that's how you get strong. get strong. And I mean, it really is that mass moves mass thought. But now, especially on the natural side, you just see so many people that are so insanely strong and they also have a rock and physique that I really do feel like

this one has turned into a myth that now to know to be strong, you don't need to be sloppy or obese or even or really even that heavy like you can be in pretty damn good shape and be also really really strong. Yeah. That being said, the easiest way to get strong is to just pack on the pounds though. Don't don't get that twisted. That is still the case. You said rock and bod.

You know what that reminded me of? What? Bod man spray. Oh, remember Bod man spray. Oh! You remember bod man spray? The only reason I know because I- I want your bod.

That was the commercial where they were like, was it really? I don't remember any commercials for it. I want your bod. Oh yeah. I just, I had a buddy that had it in his car in his Pontiac Grand Am, and we'd love to go in there when it was unlocked and spray as much of it in there

as we could. Yeah. The bod man. Yeah. Is like- I've never heard anyone else bring up bod The Bodman. Is that a competitor to Axe? Yeah. I think it still exists. Oh yeah. It was a Bodman.

Yeah, and this is like really ripped abs. That's like the classic, yes. Those like the flavor is really ripped abs. That's gotta be old. Oh yeah. I would say like like 2000 when I think of it I'm thinking of like 2003 for somewhere in there. Yeah, it's like a woman saying I want your bod bod man

Fragrant spray really ripped abs. I do not remember the commercials though. Yeah Bod man, that's like an even Even hokey or ax body spray. Yeah, like a less self aware ax. Yeah, ax body spray is it not like ridiculous enough for you to try bod man. Like do kids Jack's age, is ax a thing for them or not? I've never seen him have that.

Okay, see we grew up when ax just hit the market. And man it hit a call of that hit the market like a frickin freight train like there was I never once bought axe I did not like it. I actually did I'd never liked how any of it smelled But I had some friends that like that was like hard on the that was like your skip shower That's your free pass to not shower you had axe you just spray that all over yourself. You know it's funny So axe wasn't I mean they probably also made it, but axe wasn't really deodorant right it was just well It was a spray. It wasn't anti-purse for yes It was just spray deodorant, but it was just like body spray It wasn't because I remember like right guard spray deodorant that came in like actually yes

I had a and that was like where the spray Deodorant yeah is what but like axe is just body spray right where it's like no you just it's like Cologne yeah, I had a little here deodorant right in the US axe body spray was introduced in 2002 and man When you're 2002 like your middle school, I was like middle school I mean you are in the thick that is like the Market there guys that are just like starting to try deodorant outs for the first time and be stinky It's like yeah, that was that that really spoke to some people Yeah, wasn't that the thing you taped down an axe body spray and like that's like an axe bomb

You put it tape down, you know, cuz it was like an aerosol can that you push down you tape it down and then throw it in the car So then like the entire thing goes off in someone's car you like open the door and it's a god that would be That would be the worst thing ever. I never heard of that. I just remember guys like oh like did you guys have in gym class? Did you guys have lockers? Yes, okay, so like we have art like if you're in sports, you know You had a lot of to that you keep your stuff in Yeah And it happened all the time where when you're in like middle school and even your freshman year because that was as late as we had

Jim was like people would have their sweaty gym clothes and leave them in there like over the weekend or a long break and They'd come back and they'd be disgusting But what do you do you lay it down on a bench and you just like spray paint with axe and it's like some guys like yeah it's like it's like clean. Well man it's not. Febreze was also getting popular right around then too so there was actually you could go a couple different routes. Febreze was just hitting its stride then too. Febreze wasn't very tough you know. That axe thing going on. Particularly in football I remember people that would you know you hang shirts up on the hook and they would take their shirts off and it would literally

be rigamortis. Like I'm like how is that like do you remember seeing that where it's like it's still staying the shit like it would be like solid as a rock like a petrified shirt, and I'm like do not put that on Yeah, people are pretty disgusting Yeah Okay next one other than bad man fragrance spray Sumo is cheating the eternal internet comment At this legal it's in the rule book at this point. It's illegal, it's in the rule book. At this point, if you think that,

you just haven't been exposed to anything in your life. You've never left your own little tiny little spot in the, no, no one cares, Sumo is, do whatever you want. If it's cheating, then you do it, it's fine. There's nothing wrong with it, go do it. Everyone that power lifts and can do more then you do it. It's fine. Like there's nothing wrong with it. Go do it everyone That power lifts and can do more sumo does it there's nobody that can do more sumo and chooses I know one's I will take some more high ground here. Yes. I already does that

I will take one for the team and I mean I'm along these lines. There's also the Arching while you're benching benchinging to too wide, all of that. It's like, yeah, I mean, benching, there are some pretty crazy ones. But I mean, yeah, that's the rule book is do the lift doesn't really matter how it's done. As long as it's within the rules. If you're not maxing out, you're not training hard. Is that a power lifting myth? Um, kind of. It's kind of something people say. Maybe even power lifting is beyond that, but it's a gym, certainly a gym myth, I would say. Oh, train insane or remain the same.

PR or ER. Exactly. Because people need to understand, especially in your your early days that there's a difference between Training and testing and you know when you're maxing out you're just you're not really training that day You're you're testing your number and you gotta do that once in a while But the key is once in a while not like not like every other week or once a month. You don't need to be Finding out what were your one rep axis the joke in the gym. Oh, it's always month, you don't need to be finding out what were your one rep maxes. The joke in the gym, oh, at Mathsomics Gym is always,

well, if I don't try it, how do I know if I can even still do it or not? Exactly. It's like, you gotta meet next week. If you don't max out now, do you really know if you can do it? Yeah. And that's where I know if you can still do it.

How dumb it sounds, you know, when you say it that way. Like if, like, Ryan's there, like that's like regular conversation. We would have is like well Maxing out I assume right yeah, but don't try it. I don't really know if I can do it or not exactly Is this basically you need special supplements to get strong so that's talking about taking gear I mean is that the I that we were talking about? I think, I mean, you can even make this one just about whether you need special supplements,

the myth being you need special supplements, or even in general, you need supplements to get strong. Yeah, so is it just talking about supplements, period? You could take this two different ways. Some people might say special supplements, you know? And obviously you do not need steroids to get strong. And I mean, as time goes on, I'm like more and more with the mentality that like,

like almost no one reaches their natural genetic potential. Like most people don't even get remotely close to it. It probably gets really hard for some people. Oh, it gets, yeah. I don't doubt that like progress gets extremely slow and extremely hard, but like, I think most people that decide to hop on gear, like hop on that train so fast, like where they could

wait a little longer. But drugs aside, you know, even just needing supplements, that's more of a novice approach, I think, where you're like, no, I need supplements. That's just a not very novice idea. And that's, you know, hey, if you want to get something, hop on over to Build Fast Formula, use code Mastodonimic,

save a little money. But like what they're selling there is basically caffeine and protein and protein, which are two that I'm like, yep. And then you get it. And they also sell creatine. And that would be the other one that I'm like, yep. That you you don't need any of that. If your diets on no, you don't need protein powder. Like I'll be the first tell you like you don't. You know, if you don't want pre workout, or if

you don't like caffeine, I get that too. pre workout or if you don't like caffeine, I get that too. Like you don't you don't need to do that. Or if you want to make a cup of coffee, you can do that too. Some people like the way pre workout hits a little different and sometimes it's more convenient, quicker or simple. But hey, you don't need the supplements to get strong. It's just that last little percent it might help you out a little. Last one I thought was just so stupid. I didn't even want to say it, but this one lifting heavy will make you slow.

Yeah. So I think this goes maybe this this myth would tie in with the, you know, you have to be fat to be strong, the whole idea that, you know, you're a power lifter, you eat cheeseburgers, and you're just putting down the food and you've left all athleticism and health markers behind, you've just devoted your life to just getting as big as possible. And that's not necessarily the case or true anymore. Like we're just saying, there's a lot of I mean, top. Like we were just saying, there's a lot of,

I mean, top tier, mid tier. I mean, there's people all across the board that are in crazy good shape and can lift a lot of weight and could go out and, you know, assuming that they've been practicing a little bit, not terra hammy and run fast or, you know, do athletic feats. So no, lifting heavy will definitely not make you slow.

And there's like a level of diminishing or the opposite of diminishing turns. It was like newbie, newbie returns. Like if you don't lift at all and you want to get faster and you're kind of into running and stuff, like lifting is probably going to be the number one thing to get your faster as a matter of fact. Build some power and explosiveness for sure.

Right. Like around, you know, middle school age kids that do sports and are into sort of that. And like, usually it's the one that gets a little bit stronger that just get way faster really quickly because they're like all in good shape and stuff like that. You know, so it's just a little bit of strength can go a long ways towards speed.

But that, the flip side of the coin, I would say is like, yeah, if you take your squat from 600 to 655, are you increasing your hundred meter dash time? I'm like, most times for most people, probably not what's holding them back. Like you're already strong. Like the idea that like, that's not a limiter. Yes, like the idea that like a huge chunk of NFL players, like their problem from being like a very, very top tier NFL player is that like They're not strong enough. It's like You're kind of like playing the game of like like the genetic Filtering that has gone on here is like you're just at this point like you're kind of

There's just a limit to what your actual potential is. Yeah Deadlifts are bad for your back Yeah, deadlifts are bad for your back. That's that's not something power lifters say, but that's a myth that surrounds powerlifting. Yeah, that definitely people that don't lift say that. Yeah. I mean, I've I've heard my back deadlifting before. I wouldn't say that deadlifts are bad for your back, though. You know, like the dead lifting with improper form is definitely bad for your back. Like there's, there's no debate there. Right. Um, and a lot of people don't have good form and

even people that like have, I mean, I think for years I had decent form, but it wasn't actually that good in the scheme of things. Um, but yeah, this one is tricky. It is hard because yeah, deadlifts can be bad for your back, but no, just the blanket statement of deadlifts are bad for your back, no, that's not true. Yeah, the classic thing would be like, well, being stronger is actually better for your back.

You know, that's what people would often say. I don't know, I think with back, I'm not Stu McGill or anyone like that. I do kind of somewhat subscribe to the idea that mostly everyone at a certain age, it could be different ages for different people, is probably going to experience some kind of bad pain, whether you lift or don't lift. So the idea that like all lifting messed up your back. I'm like, I don't know if I feel like your back was going to get probably messed up one way or another, like for most people.

Maybe that's not true, but that's just a thought I have is that. It is. Well, it's similar. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, lifting can absolutely mess up your back, but also the fact that you lift probably means you're going to recover from it way faster than a person that doesn't. Like a person that doesn't. You kind of know your body. Oh, yes. A person that does nothing and hurts

their back. They're just like done. Like it's take them out to pasture. Like it's game over. Like this is they don't even know it. They're there. Well, they didn't even know what their back like they don't even have an idea of what a proper positioning for their back should be on. Yeah. Just like bending over, you know, and then the idea of like a proper positioning for their back should be. I mean, just like bending over, you know? And then the idea of like a recovery plan of any kind. Like if you're someone that exercises a little bit and you hurt your back, you kind of under like you're putting yourself in different positions and you kind of understand

like, oh, it hurts when I do this, but not when I do this. So like just at the most basic thing. But yeah, if you're a person that doesn't do any of that, you're just like, it all hurts. It sucks so bad, like in your life over. And as do any of that, you're just like, it all hurts. It sucks so bad. Like, and your life's over. And as someone that is dealing with back pain just recently, wasn't from deadlifts. It's just part of the, our situation's

a little different, though. Like, once you start getting to where you're putting heavier weights on the bar, like, there is just always that risk that's involved with that. Like, and that's just how that goes. But yeah, deadlifts, they're not bad for your back. Also, you know what else is bad for your back too, besides like bad deadlifts?

Is just like sitting your ass on the couch for the hours a day. There's nothing that agitates. There's nothing that agitates outside of a plane seat, maybe there's nothing that agitates my back. An allegiance plane seat. Sitting around doing nothing. I can just feel it. That's you know, what destroys my back getting sick and Having this and just laying down for three straight days. Yeah, you know how bad my back feels after that

I'm almost like God I'm gonna be crippled from this Experience from just like you go from a chair to a bed to whatever and yet you can't even sleep anymore because You're like, oh my back hurts so much from just laying around Yeah, yeah, and the one like, you know, some people will say like deadlifts like make their back feel better Whatever. I've never really necessarily thought that for me squats I would be the one where I would put that category of like, yeah Sometimes I don't know I feel like it's like squatting, like just puts everything back in alignment,

and it's like, okay, we're good to go now. Power lifters can't do cardio. No, I mean, you can do whatever you want. I would say like, if you're a power lifter that's getting close to a meat, maybe look at the amount say if you're a power lifter that's getting close to a meat, maybe look at the amount of cardio you're putting in. If you have a meat that's a week away or the week of,

maybe don't decide to pick up jogging that week or run a 5K or something if you haven't been doing that. You can introduce a lot of fatigue in that way. There's a specificity issue at that point. Right. Yeah. Especially close to eating for a meat. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. That's not the time to introduce any wild cardio stimulus. Right. But yeah, powerlifters actually should, for the most part, be doing some cardio. Like that's probably one of the most blanket statements you could make here, is that most people that subscribe to a power lifting type training should probably be doing a little more cardio

than what they are right now. You can get really strong without doing any cardio. Right, and when I say cardio, I don't mean like, oh, like I did my squats sets in 10 minutes instead of 15 minutes. Like I think some actual cardio would be pretty beneficial. Yeah, for most people I think that that's just for general health like it Maybe it doesn't do anything for power lifting but just to have your health like a little more in check is always good

But you're also right if like absolute strength is your main goal. There's probably a point in time when you have to It's easy to also use this as an excuse But at certain times you have to decide like what's the fatigue? Like do I can I is it good for me to get this extra fatigue? That's where a power lifter can also say Oh, yeah, I can't do that right now I can't ever do that Big days on the schedule for the next right right so that is kind of a slippery slope maybe but You can't make gains lifting only three to four days a week.

This one actually people even think I think there's a lot of people that think if you're going to be like powerlifting or bodybuilding, bodybuilding is a little different. Go to the gym. But actually, when I say bodybuilding, I'm saying like most people's definition of like I'm running a body going to the gym and trying to go to the gym with like a program. Yeah. Going to the gym and trying yeah going to the gym with like a program Yeah, going to the gym and not really wanting to do any squatting or deadlifting And only wanting to use machines that that's kind of what it is, right? That's what yeah most people's body most people that are bodybuilding program means like I have like I really don't like doing squat

Yeah, I have four upper body days and like one day that kind of sort of does everything else. Like that's, that's mostly, and like one of those days it spends just a crazy amount of time on forearm exercises and one of them is just on upper back exercises. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I, I do think like I've basically only ever lifted three days a week. When I was younger, I definitely had time to do more, but that's all I ever did. And now I would like to do more, but there's a lot of weeks where I honestly struggle. I mean, I make it happen,

but it's like I'm working to get my three days in. Like it's just, it's hard. Like there's just so much shit going on. And I've talked to several people over the years that think because they know like through massonomics or whatever they like to lift, and they assume I'm lifting like five or six days a week. And I'm like, no, dude, three days a week. And like, if I'm not like doing heavier weights,

getting ready for a meet, like those three days a week could be like damn near hour sessions. Like, you know, you can do like three hours a week. You can get, not that I'm like that strong, but you can get fairly strong. Yeah. Just honestly, a few hours a week,

as long as you're focused and like taking care of work. And then, yeah, I mean, if you're having a great time or your schedule allows, yeah, look at a fourth day or maybe a fifth day, but like you don't have to be on like a five, four, five, six day a week thing to get strong. No, when I was younger, I did five days a week for quite a while, but also I was doing a lot of mostly pointless stuff that I, you know,

that's just like- A lot of bodybuilding. You know, one day like, oh, it's arm day, and then it's like, oh, it's shoulder day, oh, it's chest day. I'm like, well, yeah, oh, it's arm day. And then it's like, oh, it's shoulder day. Oh, it's chest day. I'm like, well, yeah, oh, it's back day. Oh, it's leg day. OK, there's five days.

You just like right there. You got a ball. I'm like, well, one day you're just coming to the gym and you're doing arms and abs. Well, I don't go to the gym and just do that anymore because I kind of feel like that's a waste of time. And so I want every day to be pretty purposeful. And I do four days a week

and I couldn't do a fifth day of that type of training. That'd be too much. Your fifth day would just be garbage, right? Right, right. So four is actually about like the most, even if I had an infinite amount of time, I could go to the, if I had an infinite amount of time,

I would go and just ride the bike a little bit. I would too, 100%. Like if I had more time, I would for sure be gym. If I had an infinite amount of time, I would go and just ride the bike a little bit. I would too, 100%. Like if I had more time, I would for sure be on four, probably five. But I mean, even if you were like, no, I got my training figured out, I mean, how many weeks would a fifth day even work for your schedule, though? Like, you mean like for my life schedule?

If you're like, oh, no, like I figured out what I want my programming to be for fifth day. I mean, I would just go to the gym and do like I would do the rower or ride the bus. You know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even really choose to, I guess I would be like, I'm going to do grip stuff or forearm stuff or, you know, if I just had an infinite amount of time. But I'm saying like with your life situation, like would you know, I don't have that route with that fifth day like happen often or would it be like, no, the schedule

does not allow this fifth day. No, I can't. No, no, no, I can't. I mean, I could in a pinch if I like have a good excuse to go to the gym for an extra day, I could make that happen. But I can't do that consistently. I have, you know, four is what I can manage with my life schedule of between work and family like more than that. And I feel like I'm actually causing a big problem. Just a burden to everyone. I'm like, No, we have stuff that I have to be responsible for

that I if I didn't have that if I didn't just say I didn't have a job, I'd go to the gym six days. Oh, because I just like to be at the gym. Right. And it's like at the gym's fun. It's like the thing right? Judy's like well be there eventually I'll be doing something Yeah, you know like we're just hanging out long enough I still only have three or four days where I really do hard work The other ones would be like, oh, this is my active recovery day You know like I'd stretch I'd you know around on the rower a little bit I'd you know around on the rower a little bit, right?

Okay, so that was most of our list of Powerlifting myths what else is there anything not on the list that you would add? I added these two at the end one One is that like the idea that if you do an untested fed or an untested meat that you have to be on gear And it's like no like you don't have to do a us a PL meet just like if you're natural Don't think you have to do a us a PL meet like just pick the meat That's close easy and convenient for you, and if that's an untested one who cares do it man like that's that's uh With that's so far off my radar at this point Mostly be I think at least in large part because of the way the lift hard the vz classic is that it's been

you know, this would be a third year of it is an untested meat and I Don't know because it's untested and a lot of people don't share this but I think a huge majority of the people doing it are Natural I would assume yes. You know I'm saying like 90 some percent. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say too. Yes, you know and like Especially ours not to our horn horn horn ours is so cool. Nobody gives a shit first of all Which is that is the exact purpose? perfect

View of that that people don't care, you know, like people aren't worried about what other people are doing, which that I love. But that being said, I think most of the people are natural, but none of them care. It's not like, oh, dang it, I have to compete against one of these guys is, you know,

on steroids or on TRT or whatever it is. Like, I don't think anybody cares, because I don't think so. Point be a very weird place to care is that. But I don't think that like if someone's doing an untested meat, that means nothing to me. That usually probably means that USAPL is probably not their vibe, which there is like USAPL is tested. That's one thing. It's also a vibe in another way Yeah, which I don't mind we've done several USAPL meets and I like I've had really good experiences at both

But USAPL especially even over the last five years. I would say is a very particular vibe. Yeah, it's non USAPL meets and some people just don't like that. Right? It's just a much And nothing wrong with it. It's just like, it's just stricter. It's just stricter about everything, you know. Which draws some people to it too. Yeah, there's just a lot more rules and things to be aware of, and I mean, you could say it's a pro, and you could also say it's a con.

It just depends on what you're into. Right, but so when I see someone do untested at this point, a non-tested meat, especially in the Midwest, it means absolutely nothing because a lot of times here it is, to your first point, it's just doing a meat that you could get to. Yeah, right. And it was what was offered.

The difference might be an untested meat is three hours away, or a tested meat is six hours away. Like that's right. Sometimes those are your two choices. Yeah. What was the? The final one is the last myth. You have to wait. You have to wait to be bigger or have a bigger total before you

do your first meet. And I think that's a good one. The number one myth that people get wrong with powerlifting is like, your first meet doesn't matter at all. It's your first meet. Like, it's all PRs across the board. Like, don't think you have to wait for a 1,000-pound total or a 1,200 or a 1,500 or anS across the board like don't think you have to wait for a

1,000 pound total or a 1200 or a 1500 or an 1800 whatever Magical number you decide is the number that is your your unveiling to the world like no one cares It's your first meet just I can guarantee you'd be stronger if you just signed up and did that first meet then if you waited Like a year of like kind of training and trying to decide what the perfect time is like no just go do that first meet, then if you waited like a year of like kind of training and trying to decide what the perfect time is, like, no, just go do that first meet. Yeah, nobody that's not a loser. Nobody that has an opinion that you should care about whatsoever will ever judge you on your numbers for that first meet in a negative way. Nobody. No one will really even judge you for your second, third, fourth meet because no one cares. But nobody cool. Nobody that you want to be friends with or actually hang out with is going to

judge you based on those numbers. Everyone's going to judge you. Like, did you try hard? Did you have fun? Uh, were you fun to hang out with? Were you not a pain in my ass in the warmup room? Right. Like those are the, like like did it seem like you?

gave it all you got when it was your chance to do your your Rep on the platform That's the stuff people like I witness it firsthand every year. That's the only thing anyone cares about Nobody even knows what the like Well, no one knows what's good or bad for you unless they're like right really are following you They're paying attention like your friend or a training partner and they're not gonna care what your first meet is They're there to support you. So no The people that don't know don't know they don't care power lifting is still a sport

That's about you versus you or you versus your past self Yeah, and it's not I, there is awards for placing and stuff like that, but that is not. All right. What it's about at the. Yeah, and it can just vary wildly on just who shows up that day. Yeah.

So I would also say, you know what's kind of cooler anyways is seeing a guy that, oh, his first meet was eight years ago when he put up a 1,000 pound total. And now eight years later, look, they stuck with it the whole time. And now they have a 1,600 pound total. It's like, oh, that's really cool. Like, they put in the work. Not like, oh, they waited around four years and got to 1,500 pounds.

And now two more years have gone by and they've added 100 pounds their total. It's like, oh, yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, people do that. That happens. But it's way cooler to see, like, no, this guy has been doing it for years. Like Like he's got experience, he's been doing meats. And look, they've improved the whole way. Like, that's awesome to see that that is true. Like, I'm guilty. Well, part of it is at the time we started. Like my first meet, my total was like over 1500 pounds or so you know, I deadlifted probably 600 and some pounds and benched like over 400 and like That is almost to me that is waiting too long for someone who I found out that I really enjoy doing this Yeah, but I hardly even knew it existed Like I was just a gym rat who had lifted for a really long time that I wasn't even like powerlifting just in

2011 was bare especially in South Dakota. And we drove six hours to that meat. It was you and me. We drove six hours to go to that meat. Like this wasn't like, oh, why don't you do the local meat? There wasn't a local one. Right. There wasn't a culture of it either. Not only was there not meats, there wasn't, I wasn't hanging out with people that were doing meats

or going on the internet and watching people that were powerlifting. Like it was like hard to find them even, you know, you had to like know somebody that knew somebody even at least in our part of the country to find out where the hell these meets were. Right, which you know, if it was different now, I'd be like, oh, I would have done a powerlifting meet five years earlier than that, but at the time that was kind of a victim of the time and time and setting where it was like, I was the only choice. But like in a perfect world, if it was right now, I wouldn't wait till I could deadlift

600 pounds and bench 400 pounds to do it. I mean, honestly, if you're on the fence right now, I'd say just look and pick the first one that's like a little more than like six weeks out. Like, right. You know, if you can do like 12 weeks away, that's a pretty sweet or eight weeks. Like if it's your first one, eight weeks is enough time to just get focused and get a little training plan. Like just to know how to do four weeks out.

OK, if it's your first one, maybe four weeks out isn't enough time to kind of get your mind wrapped around what you need to do and everything. But I mean, it's still possible. Like there's still is wrong with that. But you also want to be kind of comfortable with how this whole thing works going into it too. I can't even remember. What do you suppose the timeframe was when we signed up for that first powerlifting meet?

I actually remember it. How long do you think you signed up before that? I remember because I'm pretty sure, I could be wrong here, but I do remember you asked me at the gym, you said, hey, I think some of us are going to do this powerlifting meet in Rapid City. Do you wanna do it? And I'm like, yeah, I'll do that.

And I remember I drove home back to Milbank because I'm pretty sure it was Thanksgiving weekend. So I think you asked me on a Wednesday because the gym was like empty. So the gym was like empty. Like we were the only ones up there because Thanksgiving, everyone was gone. You asked me that and I remember I drove home and I actually met my parents at the bar

We were gonna get wings and I'm like, I'm gonna do this powerlifting meet and they're like, oh cool And so that would have been you know, the powerlifting was always in like early March So that would have been that would have been like three or four months to prep for it. So that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah Those were the days used to be a proper fricking country, am I right? Yes. Does that kind of put a bow on our powerlifting myth?

Yeah. Let us know. Are there any other powerlifting myths that you've seen cycling online for years and years that we've I mean, we definitely miss some. There's so many just myths out there, but any- So the YouTube comment, leave us what other problems you missed. Any major myths that you've heard over the years, a ton that we missed out on, I'd love to hear what those are.

And also any of these we covered, would you be so bold as to say some of these are not myths and they are actually facts? Well, yeah. Sumo is cheating though. Like it's, do we use, anyone that's gonna take the stance that no, you do have to be fat to be strong. Believe it or not, power lifters actually can't do cardio.

It's not possible. Or like lifting heavy will make you slow. I guess I suppose that a certain far end of the bell curve that's maybe true. Oh, did we skip? You need to squat below parallel doesn't count it did skip that one You know if you're power lifting yeah that so yeah the final asked when you said if are you need to squat below parallel? Or it doesn't count if you're true. That's true Everyone else it doesn't really matter if you're kind of parallel ish. that's fine and people love to you know, be the depth police online

That's right. But if you're not powerlifting it, first of all, it doesn't matter. Yep I Mean if you're not powerlifting, I would just kind of say like what's it matter to you? Yeah, obviously, you know A range of motion is good. Like you want to try you want to fit Yeah, you're trying to want a longer be like doing a quarter squat with like five plates on each side like there You might just look like a jabroni if right what are you doing here? But yeah, if someone's squatting down they got two plates on and they're like kind of parallel ish and they're just training Just to just to lift, you know, just stay healthy. They're not hurting anyone. That's fine

Okay, so leave us the comment on the YouTube What power lifting miss we missed and what opinions you have on the ones we did discuss? And then what were sleeves were you talking about sleeves? Okay, so moving on did you get another new did you get a new pair of sleeves? No, there was a sleeve I had mentioned the last time that I Think part of this little back fiasco. I got into as my pioneer knee sleeves were so damn tight It just messed everything up, and I'd mentioned so tight that my legs actually that does draw blood

I knew the IPF banned those for a reason And I'm like my mediums I can get them on but so I have medium SPDs from 2016, 2017. I mean, they've been around forever. Only knee sleeves I've ever had besides these Pioneer ones. And I'm like, I do enjoy wearing knee sleeves. I can't be dicking around with these things that some days I can and can't get off.

Like it's just too annoying. I'm like, I just need another pair of knee sleeves I can count on. And my immediate thought was, you know, we were kind of shitting on SBD a little bit. I didn't say shitting on it, but maybe being critical of maybe some hand they might have played in this knee sleeve fiasco.

But I'm like, you know what? I like my SBD ones. I know what size. Ultimately, the issue with knee sleeve is sizing. I'm like, I know what? I like my SBD ones. I know what size. Ultimately, the issue with knee sleeve is sizing. I'm like, I know what size I need. I have a medium and there's a little too small. I'll go to a large that will solve all of my problems. That will solve all of them.

And then I had this second thought of like, well, but maybe, maybe I should just get A7 ones instead. And so I go look and the first thing that I notice is that a lot of The colors are not not getting blue and black knee are green and black knee sleeves are blue and black You know doesn't fit the vibe. It's the wrong color. Just do that Do they have anything that's just like all black they did but the other thing I noticed and I think it was because of this Whole knee sleeve fiasco and they ran a sale is that they essentially had zero in stock that were between these sizes of large and 4xl like Everything was wiped out

Unless I wanted some pink ones, which I wasn't gonna do so Like no screw it. I just got to get this over with so I went on SPD ordered a pair of larges they showed up and Man, they just slipped on just fine. No fight and And that's what I have for knee sleeves right now. So. Oh, so they work good. Yeah. So they work good. So what color did you get? I went with the classic just black SBD with red.

Like those are the colors. That's the other thing is they're the right colors. You know, it's got to write off the beginning. Yeah, it's the right color. Like they have that going in their favor. So, yeah, I now have a second pair of SBD knee sleeves. And they do fit well. They fit great.

Yeah, they will go on just fine. They're firm yet supportive. Quality's good. Smooth and easy to grip. Smooth and easy to grip. So you didn't get the SBD competition ones or whatever. I didn't because what I'm after here more is- Something you can just get in on a wearer.

Something I can just wear for training. But I think what I might do- more is uh something you can just get out on something. I just wear for training Yeah, but I think what I've got these super tight ones. Yeah, I don't need the world's tightest thing But the mediums are really tight. I think still like if it came down to it I'm like me they had probably still just wear my mediums, you know, right, right. That's what I would say to you Yeah, so that's the plant. It is interesting though. I'm not sure Like SPD I think they kind of changed the formula like a few, I don't know, a few years ago because even when you go to the website.

It could have been anywhere within the last 10 years because that's all over. They have the, you know, the logo changed but even they have one, they have the original version. It says like, like knee sleeves 2013 or something is on the website. Like the ones we have, you can get that version. Like that one exists in its own little product category

and there's all the others. But what I noticed is like mine, and I'm curious if yours do this, like when I'm not wearing them, they pretty much lay flat. Like they're pretty much flat. I use the thing at the gym, you know. So it's hanging on the- But even on there, are they mostly flat like they're not they're not round

Circular when they're hanging on there, are they I? Don't they're a little bit, but maybe it's more they maybe they do hang down Yeah, like mine are yeah, like mine are like more like sandwich looking when I when they're up there Yeah, I think that's right and maybe it's just because I haven't worked out in these ones yet But what I did notice is you know They came in the package and they're flat in the package and I just put them on my knees just and I squatted down a few times when I took them off, they stayed round and circular and like mine Right where no they're floppy. Yeah, like, you know, the pioneers stay round and so you have them off because they're so dense and thick

These ones though, they stay round Maybe if I just actually lift lifted them once they flatten out but I did think that Was interesting because it's something at least on the initial impression was different there I honestly haven't put a pair on knee sleeves on in so long now. I can't even really yeah, it's hard for me to even think about it We have to bust some out someday I see what the knee sleeve game see what this Knee sleeve hype I actually, I love wearing knee sleeves. Like it's, you know, if given the choice, if I had to pick between belt and knee sleeves, I would pick a belt, but I just,

my knees feel so much better when I wear knee sleeves. I don't know. Like be your knees being tucked into bed. It is. And it gives me, it gives me like this natural rebound point where it just feels like yep That's depth because things are just the compression and tightness is there and that's where I turn this around and without that It just feels like I don't know do I just squat until my butt hits the floor like where do I stop right?

I'm might have to try these knee sleeves someday that you guys have been talking about Might have to try these knee sleeves someday that you guys have been talking about. But you're able to talk about these, put your elbow sleeves on your knees and see what happens. I haven't worn very I've worn such little amount of protect like I haven't worn a because of being injured. Right. In recovery, I haven't worn a belt or a sleeve of any kind in At least seven months. The only thing I've worn of protective gear is wrist wraps, yeah or Bench press okay. This is one thing that I always wonder

like do you And I'm there's probably someone that has a definitive answer on this Like do you think does dead lifting or squatting without a belt actually make you stronger, do you think? I don't, I can't say, I'm not, I do it a lot. And even like when I'm not injured, I implement that a lot. But I cannot say that I, that I can, I cannot, I don't feel confident in saying that I think it makes me stronger, but I know a lot of people

would say that. A lot of people would, but I personally can't say that if you ran, let's just say like a like a Eight week training cycle and that eight week training cycle Let's say you ran it without a belt versus running it with a belt like at the end of the training cycle Would you be stronger one way or the other? I'm genuinely curious to know like is that is there any science behind that supports? Like that's a that's a good question I Because where I can see in my very uneducated opinion very uneducated I could see one thought process tells me well

You can probably lift more with the belt and at the end of a training cycle if you were able to handle heavier loads You should be stronger because you were training heavier for that training cycle here over more training Right days that were all and that's where my brain typically leads to is like, okay If you look at like you you know the tip the total weights you handled over a training cycle You handled more weights more weights mean stronger But then I sort of see the argument of like well But then I sort of see the argument of like, well, but you get so strong without it, then you pop it on. And you're like, oh, now I have like all this bonus.

Right. But then I also think like, but using a belt, like there is a certain level of skill to it too. I think that's definitely true because then I think we'll also like, so now you're actually even just worse. Like you didn't train as heavy and now you're worse at using a belt too. Like because I think the thought process is like, Oh yeah. Well, if you use a belt, like you're just like using your muscles so much more. But I don't know. I'm like, are you activating more muscles and not using a belt though?

It's not like it's a crutch, you know, it's not like you're lifting. And I don't mean this like as a belt, a bench shirt is a crutch, but it's not like you were like lifting with. Assistive equipment, you know, all of a sudden and now you're not. Yeah. I would have tend to agree with you. Even as someone that trains intentionally beltless outside of injury, even just in normal training, I train a lot of beltless periods, but I do it for a different reason than someone that says they want to get stronger.

So what's your reasoning? My reason I treat it like, basically like you would treat a variation in the sense that If you're you don't want to blow bar back squat all the time because the load like for 52 weeks a year It's just so intense the load crushes you crushes So it's just a variation where it's like no my RPE can be high just like if you do a zircher squat Your RPE can still be high, but the load is 60% Okay, so you're saying you you you use beltless as a way to bring the intensity down Yes. Yeah, I mean actually to keep the intensity high but the load down. Yes. Yes

Yeah, yeah, like that's yes, that's right. That's what I use it as where I'm like, nope This is where I'm still doing an rpe8 but it's just with 40 less pounds because I'm not like Because mainly because it's like all my hips or whatever else it is I just can't lift like that all the time, but then I can still do things that are hard Yeah, that are testing me that are like, you know that are I don't know I just for the lack of better word that are just hard but yet not as absolutely Fatiguing or injury causing in my case is what I think like it's like actually let

By bringing the overall load down but still making it hard like I feel like I'm yeah, you know, hopefully avoid It's like but I treat grip up you've put yourself. Yeah, it's really like a variation I think of it as a variation in that way too. Just where it's like, no, I'm close grip benching. And you know. And because the ultimate idea with you though is that like you knew if you put the belt on you could do more is what you're getting at.

Oh, especially on a squat. Like I absolutely can squat more with a belt. Like even deadlift is a little trickier and I think for a lot of people that is true. See, and that's why I kept thinking of deadlift with you and I'm like, I don't even like, if Tanner was like, I don't need a belt. Like even deadlift is a little trickier. And I think for a lot of people, that is true. I kept thinking of deadlift with you and I'm like, I don't even like if Tanner was like, I don't need a belt, like that would not surprise me if you said that. No, that I squat, I can any day of the week, put a belt on it

and immediately feel stronger. Yes. Okay. I absolutely, but on a belt, sometimes it can be like, I don't know, it just feels like it's, it's annoying. And there definitely is a thing that you have to train with it for a while. And then I think you don't get the advantage of it immediately if you're completely Yeah, I think there's a skill to proper positioning, embracing against the belt. Yeah, breathing all that I do think

most people, if they get the skill down will be stronger with it will be able to lift more with a belt. Most people on the deadlift. Over a training cycle. Yeah, but some people I don't know on deadlift, I have seen people that I'm like, I don't know, I guess yours.

Yep, deadlift's the, yes, deadlift is the exception. Yeah. I don't, cause you do, like there are people that don't use a belt for deadlift. I don't know, is there anybody that uses a belt, but is like, nope, don't use a belt on squat. I'll use a belt on deadlift, but I do not use one on squat.

I'm not familiar with anyone that there is. Oh, I mean, I just think you'll be stronger. Like I just don't, I just almost can't believe hardly anyone feels, they might not be used to a belt and they might not like it. But my thought would be is if you use it long enough to get used to it, your squats probably gonna be more. Yeah, so the thing, okay, yeah, so the thing you said

about like you use, not using a belt as a way to, you know, almost, or yeah, to add in a variation. What I typically do, because just for me, just the belt being on is such a cue to like brace, that a lot of times what I'll do is I'll just have it lighter, just a loose fit. Right, not as tight. Yeah. Just because just for me always just the very fact of a belt being there, I just feel like I brace better whether the belt is like in a position where it's actually really even doing anything or not, just having something around my midsection

for whatever reason is like the cue that I need to like brace and push against it correctly So yeah, that's where like all if I'm ever like on the fence. It's like yeah I'll just put the belt on but I'll go like three notches looser than normal, right? Just helps keep my brace in check Yeah, I buy that too I what the original question though, I'm I feel like I don't know. But maybe if someone had a really big I don't know what the weakness would be. But if then they could benefit if they had a particular weakness, then they

benefited from a training cycle with no belt and actually got stronger at something. And then they went back to the belt and were stronger because it helped a weakness they had but I Don't know what that week is that make an assumption though that a belt or moves a certain muscle group from an exercise That's yeah, that's right, but maybe it's like not even a muscle group. Maybe it's like I Don't know some other other form of weakness that you have that's, I don't know, I'm just grasping at straws to even come up with a justification for what. There probably is something I'm not thinking of, but.

Yeah, yeah, because I generally would believe, I generally agree with what you're saying too there, but I'm just trying to justify what the reason for to not do a belt that actually gets you stronger for a period of time than if you would've worn the belt for that period of time. My reasoning is, well, maybe it prevents me from being injured so that I am ultimately stronger.

Yeah, right, which I, I mean, obviously I'm saying it, so I buy it, but I think there's logic behind that. Because people do it a lot of different ways, that's just a way to do it. But the actual thought that, no, you straight up got stronger because you didn't wear the belt for that 12 weeks or eight weeks or 10 weeks or whatever, it's an interesting thought.

Drop a YouTube comment on that, what you think, because I think that there will be people that have a lot of different opinions on that. Yeah, oh, I think there's programs out there that will specifically call for beltless, you know, movements. Well, I'd be curious what some of the science actually does say about that too. You know, like if this is a question that we brought

to Greg Knuckles, Dr. Mike, and whoever else, what do they know? You know, what is their theory on that? Yeah, does beltless training get you stronger so that when you go back to using a belt, you're even better? Or anecdotal experience. What does Chad say, for example? Right. Does beltless training get you stronger so then when you go back to using a belt you're even better or? Anecdotal experience what does Chad say for example right like who's trained a lot of people like what's his take is he like? No, that's a wear a belt, but That's yeah, yeah

So drop a YouTube comment on that though I do think we'll get some interesting comments because I think there could be smart people Both being smart or all being smart that have a different opinion on the different take I could definitely see it on this one. Yes, and strong people that have you know, two strong people that have different takes on that also So argue with each other in the comment section to boost our algorithm What do we got some sort of fair life update? Oh, okay. So there's you know, it's like a good fair life people people are always hyping up this special Fair Life that Costco has.

And Dr. Tatti Waffles had some at his house. He offered it to us, but we had like 1,000 beverages already, so we didn't take it. And the last time I was at Costco, I go through and I look, and I see this Fair, this flat, this palette, this flat of Fair Life drinks. Oh, a flat. And I see this fair this flat this palette. It's flat a fair life drinks Oh flat and I got it and I'm like I feel like this is different Than the ones that I remember seen like a bottle that wafts. Yeah, I like the bottle color is different or something

But anyways before I looked into it more I had one and god, okay, actually, you know, I'm gonna back up Sorry, it is different. I looked and I more, I had one. And God, okay, actually, no, I'm gonna back up, sorry. It is different. I looked and I got like the fricking, it's the Fair Life. You got the strawberry milk one. No, no, it's still chocolate. That is the core power one.

I think I've seen you have these before, maybe. Yeah. You know, a bottle has like 26 grams of protein. And it comes in like, I don't know, it was like an 18 pack or something. But the ones that Dr. Taddy Waffles had were these ones that were 30 grams of protein. Either way, so I got what I looked at,

the one that I thought I was getting they didn't have in stock, I got this other one. I started having this at breakfast. God, I freaking crave these things in the morning now. Like, I'm not even a chocolate milk guy. I've said this breakfast. God, I freaking crave these things in the morning now. Like, I'm not even a chocolate milk guy. I've said this before. I'm talking about Fair Life recently, being a recent discoverer of it. But man, in the morning with my breakfast now, you do eggs, bagel, a yogurt, a Fair Life. Oh, that is just like a breakfast right there. And you have like almost 80 grams of protein. Like, man, that is a way just like a breakfast right there. And you have like almost 80 grams of protein.

Like man, that is a way to start your day right there. So. Starting off the day with a bang. A protein bang. Yeah, not a bang energy. That reminded me of something that Officer Wolf from Western Northeast South Dakota. Yep.

Has been a lifter with him for several years and he texted me out of the blue the other day. He said, do you remember at our local grocer that one time many years ago, he's like, it was at least 10 years ago, they had this brand of protein drinks that were on sale for like less than a dollar a bottle. Oh.

And he's like, do you remember we went and bought all of them? Do you remember what that was called? And I'm like, not only do I remember, it is like the very first photo that I still have saved on my phone. Really? It's from March 15th of 2011.

It's one of the very early photos I have. And I bought, because he and I bought every single one that they had there. I bought one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, at least 10 cases, because it's what I can see in the picture. And I'll kind of put this on the screen so people can, I don't know if you can see that at all.

Oh, here it is. Here's you can see it, but. It's not focusing. I can't see the text. It's my Oplex is the. My Oplex. I feel like I've heard of that beforeplex and you can see I have 10 cases that I had my old bachelor pad that I bought there.

And this was so, you know, this is like purple box. I've definitely seen this before. Like the more. Yes. Yes. Is the brand my Oplex and they were selling these for like, I don't know, it might've been 60 cents a bottle or 50 cents a bottle. That's cheap. That's really cheap. I felt like I was living high on the hog for months there where I just had like the surplus of all these easy to grab protein drinks that I spent almost no money on.

It was like winning the lottery. You know, it was just having these at my disposal. I remember it being a sad day when I like grabbed the last one of those and I'm like, wow, these are really gone. Now, now a 20 pack of those on Amazon will run you $70. Whoa, that's insane. That's a lot. Like I think I was we were literally buying like a case that however mean that were was if it was like 20 of them was the case was like $10 There were some weird. I don't know if they fell off a truck or what the scenario No one actually likes this

It too, but we just thought it was the steal of a lifetime so much so that I took that picture and have saved it for 15 years That is the one thing about that. Fair life though. It's not cheap. Even even by Costco standards, you know, you're looking at a little over $2 a bottle. And you know, if you do the math on 26 grams of protein, a little over $2, like that's,

it ain't no cottage cheese, that's for sure. But then again, what is, I guess, yeah, when you're comparing everything against perfection, yeah, you should prepare to be disappointed. Yes Anything else you want to run down on this one? I'm gonna I want to I want to put an end on this one put a bow on this I don't know if you remember it was

Probably five years ago, maybe more you asked me if I'd seen a little show called succession more, you asked me if I'd seen a little show called Succession. You had started the first season and you had hyped it up to me and had high praise for it. Well, I'm happy to announce that I have finally finished the last episode of Succession. I'm done with the show. Is the series over?

Yeah, the series has been over for like two years. Oh, it has been, okay. Yeah, and I actually had been, I had watched all of them except the last, I had just the last episode left for like six months now. And I just, it was an hour and a half and I could just not bring myself to watch this hour and a half long episode. I have finally, finally finished it. Succession is done. Really come full circle on the podcast. I remember you recommended that it

was in, uh, in my, my last house in Aberde podcast. I remember you recommended that it was in, in my last house in Aberdeen. I remember you talking about it there. Like they're like really rich, like really, really rich. And I went from recommending that to you to probably, I don't think I even watched anything after the first season of that. Nope. Nope.

So what is it? Would you recommend someone watch? Oh yeah, it's a great show. Oh yeah, it's an awesome show. Did it stay good? Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. Yeah, I mean, you could make very.

Did they ever resolve all their family drama? You'll find out in the last episode. If I remember right, there was a lot of family drama. It's all power moves. It's all power moves in politics of you realize, sometimes you think like, just because people's brains are wired different. And sometimes I think like, you know, like when you already have like tens of billions

of dollars or whatever it is, like, why do you even care anymore about anything? And then I remember, ah, it's the power. It's the power. It's the idea that someone has something on you or is bad. And I'm like, oh yeah, that's what will keep people going until the end of time is the idea like someone is beating them like money And none of that even matters anymore It's just purely the idea that you're better than me and I can't let you have that and that is can't stand That's what all these people it's like all this high drama and I'm like how you get into it. You're like, wait a minute

They're billionaires up It really actually doesn't matter at all I'm like, how you get into it? You're like, wait a minute Their billionaire's out the end of the day It really actually doesn't matter at all. But yeah, it's yeah, I Watched a little something. I'm curious if you've heard about this. It's called it's a Netflix dumb document. Oh, you haven't seen the Is that idiot? Leverking documentary have you no I have not Watching anything. I don't plan on it Is that idiot liver King documentary? Have you? No, I have not Know on Netflix documentary American manhunt. Oh, it's Osama Ben. Okay, dude. All right It's so funny brought this up. So funny brought this up while I was watching succession It was on I watched the last episode on the airplane back from Florida. Yeah, and it's like three rows in front of me

I'm like there's a lady sitting there and she has her phone like in front of me. I'm like, there's a lady sitting there and she has her phone like propped up high. And I'm like, oh, she's watching some 9-Eleven documentary, I guess. And then I'm like watching it. I'm like, ah, there's a lot of like, yeah, 9-Eleven stuff, like George W. Bush, like, like is she watching? God, what's the Michael Moore one?

Yeah. I'm like, is she watching? Cause it's just so much of that footage. Yeah. And then I'm realizing that she watching? Because it's just so much of that footage. Yeah. And then I'm realizing that this is going on the entire flight. I'm like, oh, no, this is a she's just found some random show, whatever.

That's all I'm thinking of. So the last episode of Succession gets done, and I'm listening to the Let's Get Stupid podcast. And someone brings up, yeah, have you seen this? I saw a Bin Laden documentary on Netflix. And I'm like, that's what she was watching. Yeah, that is what she was watching. We get off the plane and my sister-in-law goes, oh, on the plane I was watching this Osama Bin Laden documentary.

I'm like, you too, huh? So like there's all these people. I've never heard of this. And now the person in front of me was watching it. The podcast I was listening to, you talked about it. I get off the plane, you talked about it. I'd never heard of it. And then now where I see three people being subjected to it. So you haven't watched it yet. No, I have not watched it. But you have apparently then? Yeah, I watch it and it's good.

No, it actually is good. I'd never even heard of it. OK, I just heard it existed. I never heard of it. I really enjoyed it, I guess, myself. And my wife liked it too. And she doesn't like television. It was a mere an act of God that I got her to even so what is the synopsis I mean

it is it just about how they found Osama bin Laden is that yeah it's just it's follows like basically hunting Osama bin Laden I mean like what they were doing what the Al Qaeda was doing and then just be yeah like the man the CIA it's some follows a lot of CIA employees of like their, and also following George Bush and then following Obama during their, their interactions and like their plans and what what went well, what went wrong and then like at the end following the SEAL team and some of those guys. Okay, like pretty crazy stuff. It also it's funny because that stuff I'm like, at the time, I'm not saying talking about 911 when I'm saying this, of course, I cared about that. But like a lot of that other stuff after I didn't really care about any of it. Oh, yeah, I just like the world had checked out. And then all of a sudden, like one day, the news reports are Osama

bin Laden's dead. It's like, oh, okay, I guess that's done. And what's really interesting to me, because I didn't even really pay attention to much at the time, but it's funny to say spoil because this is a factual thing that happened. It's like I should, it's not like I'm spoiling, but in the sense that a lot of us didn't really pay that close of attention at the time,

so you don't really know the details. So I won't spoil some of the details for people that are gonna watch it, but one of the kingpins of the operation That ultimately was really important to them finding Osama bin Laden He was Kuwaiti And they're going through the documentary and they're showing b-roll of Kuwait City and stuff and they're like and that's it all falls a timeline

Sometimes they go forward and back in the timeline but it's all falls so there's a lot they're giving you a lot of date months and dates all the a timeline. Sometimes they go forward and back in the timeline, but it all falls, so there's a lot, they're giving you a lot of months and dates all the time, and they're like, October 2010, this guy from Kuwait showing the Kuwait B-roll, and I'm like, I was there. And they're like, I even, like, I was in Kuwait City in like that month, I could, I specifically know that I was.

And just like a few things where I'm like, oh, I was in that country, in that war, at that point in time. I wasn't watching that on TV, I was there. Yeah, and I'm like, and I still didn't even really understand what was going on. Right, right. That's actually kind of the funniest part of the whole thing.

Yes, and it still was irrelevant. I had a basketball tournament to play. I was like, you're just a guy doing your job. So you don't really care when you're 20 years old. I mean, that is kind of the, I don't even know what the right word is, funny, interesting, unusual perspective. Sometimes I think people assume that because someone's

in the armed forces that they have the inside scoop on what's going on. And a lot of times it's like, no, sometimes- Most of the people don't. Sometimes people just needed like college paid for, or like they needed something to straighten their life out. They just were like, hell yeah, brother. Yeah, they're just like- Sign me up.

Like there was no thought. Just doing it like- Yep. Yeah, they don't have like any greater like geopolitical knowledge than- No. Anyone else. I Yeah, they don't have like any greater like geopolitical knowledge than no anyone else I mean most don't like masses Don't right you know there are there are some that do and some that are in you know levels of intelligence that they know stuff But like most people don't but I just thought it was really good. I want to

Dwell out of how many episodes is it I don't even know it just watched them all so it was really good. I won't dwell on it anymore. How many episodes is it? I don't even know. I just watched them all. So it was like three, I think. Oh, okay. It's not like a 10 episode thing. No. Okay. No, I don't think so.

I think it's maybe like three. Okay. The craziest part though, like, with Barack Obama as the president, the depiction of what that, like the actual day that they sent the team in there to where they were pretty sure where he was and like the whole operation with SEAL Team Six,

where I'm like, oh, that was just like out of a movie where the president is sitting in that room with all those people and they're like, oh, like waiting to hear what's gonna go down, like they know. And they're like talking to the general that's in country that's running the operation. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, that is like the like, that is a movie, you know, like a fictional movie that you would watch of the way that plays out.

I'm like, that's actually what that is. The communications has taken place and all the most important people are all there. They're like watching it and it's extremely high tension and like, I'm like, wow, that's, that's pretty wild, you know? And I'm like, well, I suppose it is like that, but it's gotta happen once in a while. I suppose.

The one other line I really enjoy that's kind of along those lines is the one of the, I think it was the head of the CIA at that point in time needed something done. And he said it somewhat tongue in cheek, but also just like maybe slightly seriously at one point in time, he said, Well, it seems like it's something I just that I know I've seen CIA do this in a movie before or it's like, I know you can do like, I'm sure I've seen this happen in a movie. Like we have to be able to make it happen to you know, like where he's just like saying if it can happen in a movie, we have to figure out how to do it too. Yeah. Yeah, no, that is interesting. So yeah, check that out if you're into that sort of thing.

One final thing before I forget here on the since we're talking TV right now. Don't know if you're aware of this, but there is a new season of the rehearsal with Nathan Fielder. Oh, no. And we actually tried to start it. Is that on now? That's on HBO.

Okay, I have to see if we have that. And we actually tried to start it, but the whole, and I don't know if you remember, season one of the rehearsal was about him, you know, he builds that fake house where he wants to like experience. Was it a woman with a kid or something like that? Yeah, he wants to experience what it's like to be a parent

or whatever, so like he speed runs, you know, a childhood where for like three days he has a one-year-old and then a wife and then for three days he has a two-year-old and a new wife, like, and it just goes and then eventually he's like getting in fake fights with his teenager and all that stuff. Yes, yes. And it doesn't even his teenager dive a drug overdose or something

there's something it's like so it's like that's what he wanted to experience knows the crazy part, but for this one the synopsis is Actually, I can't even hardly say because Sort of the point of it is it's talking about plane crashes he's looking at plane crash data and he finds that a lot of times planes crash because the pilot is not taking feedback or advice from the co-pilot or whatever their official name is. Yep.

And so he's trying to like recreate the situations where the planes are crashing. And this happens like five minutes into the thing. This is right before we're leaving for Florida and my wife's like, yeah I don't really want to watch a bunch of videos about planes crashing before we go on vacation So I had to call it quits on there, but I'm very excited to to start that one Yeah, cuz it's just so just so awkward and weird and it's it's just amazing just even awkward Is it just even into like the first few minutes? I'm like, oh god. I love this. This is so good Just even in the like the first few minutes. I'm like, oh god. I love this. This is so good

Okay. Yeah, I gotta put that on my list to see if I have HBO even at this point. I can't even tell nobody knows You just click the box and the pictures go see if you get it or not. Yeah All right. I think this week I want to let everyone know one more time to become a supporting member before we have that big line in the sand coming Watch out for our drop Coming up we believe it's this week if it's not week this week. It's the next and it is a big one We'd love to see a support that in any way possible and The other thing is our YouTube channel. We haven't mentioned it this episode, but check out our YouTube channel

New video along with the podcast every week There's also the new YouTube video every week And we've been doing a lot of gym tours the one that published this last week Was big Kyle Kaisen DIY gym his gym tour out there in Indianapolis, Indiana That's a great video. That is an awesome gym tour This next week the one that comes out the week or wait the one that will be out by the time This is published is we're in Kyle Kyle's gym again for one more weekend. You go through his Temple of Gaines multi-flight Yes, go through it very early no stone left unturned

And I haven't watched that one yet So I'm excited to watch that one on the Temple of Gains piece and then we've got a whole bunch more gym tours Coming out after that Anyone else that makes gym tours? For YouTube is not as good as us at it ours are the best and if we don't have the most We will at some point in time probably fairly soon. I'm show me someone that has more of them. First of all, right? I have okay. I have a question. This might be just a whole nother topic, maybe. Maybe, okay, you can decide if we talk about this or not.

In Coop's latest video, Gradcium Reviews video, he's talking about, I can't even remember if it's equipment he's most excited for, best equipment of the year so far, but he sneaks in a plug for his new YouTube channel. He has a new YouTube channel, and it was like Budget Coop or something. And the whole point of the YouTube channel

is gonna be like budget equipment reviews. And that's a very weird concept to me because budget is so subjective, so subjective. Like, I don't even know it, to me I'm like, where do you even draw the line? Like how do you, and how do you draw the line on that? Maybe he hasn't figured out. Maybe if I watch, it only has one video right now.

Maybe if I watch it, my questions would be answered, but I'm like, okay. I guess do you, before you look at benches, do you say, well, budget is anything under $300 or is it the sliding tier? Because then you're just right back to having a review channel again. Do you get what I'm saying? So is it're just right back to having a review channel again to get what I'm saying So is it not a review? Is it a review channel? It's just reviewing budget equipment. It's here I'll find it right now because here now that my question It's called budget gym co-op, but you know co-op spells coop so like budget gym coop You know, he's trying to be clever there

His first gym or his first video, well actually the YouTube title description is, budget Jim Coop is Coop from Garage Jim Review's latest creation to help home gym owners build epic gyms on a budget. And the first and only video is the best budget home gym equipment for 2025. Like how, maybe if I watch, I've not watched the video yet,

but I'm like, where do you draw the line here? Like what is, okay, if we're talking adjustable dumbbells, what's the line on what's budget and what's not budget? You know? Maybe this is a bigger topic for next week, I don't know. But that was just immediately what stood out to me is budget to everyone means something wildly different. But like, whether you want to admit it or not,

that is a fact. No one, when you say budget, does that word mean the same thing to everyone? I'm just trying to wrap my head around more broadly, why is it a separate channel? Well, and then that's what made me thinking, Lam, I was wondering, does this channel have some autonomy away from pillar four or whatever?

That's what I, that's the, that's in which case I understand the justification of that. If it doesn't, I'm just wondering why another channel, it's just a subsection of your channel that already exists. See, and already, okay, so I just clicked on it right now. I would say there's, I don't think this has any I Think this is made by the same people like it has the same editing effect in the same look is all of this garage and review videos, so

it's Pretty clearly shot and edited by because I thought oh, maybe this would be like a stripped-down coupe where it's like no He's not gonna try point of that then that actually makes a lot I actually could be like I I might like this better. This might be more. I'm like, oh, you just kind of went back to what you used to do. Yeah, but no, this one, I mean, you open it up.

It's the exact same production value and everything. Actually, he's trying to do a spoof on like the home improvement intro on here. Oh, yeah, but he has it. It has the same production quality, like the same style, which is, you know, super professional. Yeah. And then he's doing the same thing where, like the same style, which is super professional. And then he's doing the same thing, where he's sitting at the table talking with his same podcast

microphone, too. I'm sure there's a strategy behind it, but I guess I don't fully understand the strategy of starting the additional channel from scratch that's also a YouTube channel that's also just a subdivided version of what you're on. Unless it was just like hey We can't like it actually hurts the YouTube channel to do more than two videos a week

So like this is just a way for us to make more than two videos a week Because like I mean they review budget stuff all the time on the main channel like they're not leaving budget stuff out No, no, not at all. That's why I guess I just don't honestly most a lot of the budget stuff is just DIY stuff anyways you know right you don't make affiliate money off of that so that's hmm yeah I was confused on the topic of it yeah I know a part though most annoying part first day 5600 subscribers you you know, some of us I remember back when some of us had to work for that number We just didn't get 50 600 subscribers claw and friggin

Yeah, everything in our we had to power to get we had to go on flights all across the country We had to make relationships and shake. Hey, we had to put ones in the old vice. We had to shake babies We had to shake babies and kiss hands and do all that We didn't just start a new channel and get 5,000 subscribers and instantly have Affiliates with 50 different programs right off the bat. Someone's had to build this step-by-step nothing given That being said make sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel We are getting closer and closer to 10,000 YouTube subs, so it'll be great to see that go over 10 K also leave us an Apple podcast review.

We are at five 95 last I checked. We have 595 five star Apple podcast reviews. We are so close to 600. We have broken 500 Spotify five star reviews. So we're above close to 600. We have broken 500 Spotify five-star reviews, so we're above 500 on those. We just need a couple last of you to steal your wife's phones. Maybe in the past you thought I was joking about this.

I'm not joking. Steal your wife or girlfriend's phone, or a roommate if you don't have a wife or girlfriend, but you have a roommate. Borrow their phone Leave us a five-star review on Apple podcasts Bada-bing bada-boom we're over 600 just like that It was almost too easy to get there like taking candy from a baby and then shaking it

Might start a second channel just to get 600 reviews again because it's so here's what I'll tell you we Say you what you want about Mastinomics, but we will not up and start a new YouTube channel on here. We're just going to stick with the one YouTube channel. We just want you to subscribe to that one. And we're not going to make a whole separate YouTube channel for our gym tours or our podcast tours and all the other solid one. Yeah, it's a one stop shop or a separate YouTube channel for a different type of fitness equipment We're gonna do what you see is what you get. We're gonna do a separate YouTube channel. That's only reviews of moderately priced

Expensive stuff that sounds comical, but it's the same concept, you know, it's exactly the same thing It's just picking a different segment or on the right or it's the same thing like no I'm starting a new channel that only reviews ultra high-end equipment, right? Okay, why is it a separate channel of just that it's interesting on the bottom I mean this could have just been a whole topic for next week But on the bottom of the YouTube video in the description after there's the 30 affiliate links, it's copyright 2025 budget gym co-op. And so then I Google budget gym co-op and what comes up is the YouTube channel. And then like the second link is a garage gym reviews link on the website of best budget home gym equipment of 2025. And I'm like, you guys are already doing this. So why is there a second channel for this? I don't get it.

Don't even get me started on the slap of the face to those of us that are actually co-op guys. It's kind of a mix of mockery of real co-operatives. I am a real co-op man. That have to serve actual members and have bylaws. Yeah, it's actually in a customer owned cooperative guy over here. So don't just put the name in the title. We take co-op seriously around.

Yeah. Does a name co-ops are not just jokes in my neck of the world. So we used to be a proper freaking country where co-op meant something, where there was patronage. Exactly. Make sure to check out juggernautai.app. It's the training that Tommy and I both use, you know, we both use it. So we are telling you the truth when we tell you that we want you to use it as

well. Special announcement. The back is on the up and up. Things are coming around. So it's good news then things are getting better Okay, I'm Still still not jumping the gun here, but things are After I got three days removed from that plane ride and it was like a

Two days ago. I had the single biggest day of improvement. I've ever had in my life I went from starting the day in pain to at the end of the day being like, I think I'm totally fine. And I know that's not how it works, but that's what my brain was telling me. So we're coming around. So, and still progressive since then. Oh yeah, yeah.

We're coming around. Or not regressive since then. No, not regressive. That's the important part. Yeah. And I am on my second week of being back on juggernaut AI and Nothing, but good things to say so far. I'm I'm really enjoying it. I'm really enjoying being back on juggernaut in putting my lifts in there Using the feedback with the RP that you input for each lift

The tracking I've always liked the tracking element of it and I continue to like that and to be able to look back on what you've performed on that exercise the last time you did it I Sometimes I forget how nice and convenient that is just to be able to check that really quick when you forget the history is nice Especially history is clutch especially when you need to like quickly go back and be like, okay What was I squatting six months ago and just to have that there? go back and be like, Okay, what was I squatting six months ago? And just to have that there? Yep. Oh, it's nice.

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