Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 482: The Gym Clothing Tier List

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

We ranked all of your favorite ~and least favorite~ gym apparel items into one comprehensive tier list! Nothing was safe on this one from caps, to socks, to jock straps, and warm pants. EliteFTS Use code MASS10 to save 10% on most orders! Build Fast Formula Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates! Texas Power Bars Get the Barbell that changed the game!

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! side everything mass anomics. Oh, damn it, Tanner. Now it's go time. Maybe you'd point at me. Welcome back everyone for episode 482 of the Mastronomics podcast, the Lifting podcast about, you guessed it, nothing. Nothing and, well, and whatever we're gonna talk about this week, am I right?

Nothing in roughly two hours of content. Yeah, my name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. And everyone knows exactly why 482 is a very unique, very special episode. This is a hot bulletin fresh off the press alert. Masanomics does have a new sponsor of the podcast. Yeah. This does not happen off. Actually, you know what that does? I know what it deserves.

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It would have been a couple years ago. Pretty exclusive, Unnuly led India. Yeah, well everyone sticks around. That's how lucrative these sponsorship opportunities are They just stick around for so long. I'm thinking maybe I mean my guess most recently I'm wondering if his build fast formula. Oh Yeah, and that's they've been around for It's been a while it has been been a while. Big Anthony says episode three forty three. I don't know how he knows it that quick, but I feel like I believe him. I would put it past him. Yeah.

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Okay 482 is a suit pretty fun episode. We're gonna have a lot of fun with this. We're bringing back our tier list. Do we have any tier list music? I think I got something here for a little tier list music. No, Bobby, don't hit me. Ah! I didn't have to hit me like that, Bobby.

Ah, yes. Domestic abuse chorus. I think that's a little tier list music to really get everyone in the mood. We've been having fun with this tier list idea. We don't want to do them all the time. But once every couple months, we've been busting this idea out. So this week, it's going to be our gym apparel tier list. Before we start that, though, should we talk one other thing? Do we want to talk like home gym con preview?

Maybe a little that's really fresh you since let's do that by the time By the time people are actually listening to this you will Have just gotten back from it. I unfortunately can't out this year. You're doing a quick trip. You're gonna make it It's a quickie. Yeah, the first thing would just be Be on the lookout. We got a lot of content coming. Hopefully get the first week planning on getting two videos out right away. So yeah, when this comes out, watch for a video, hopefully Tuesday and hopefully Thursday. That's the rough plan.

Yeah, give or take a day or two either way. Right, right. Um, but our rough plan also has three videos too. We're gonna have three full YouTube videos and they're gonna be pretty legit And we kind of we spent like two I don't know if you realize how long I spent on the phone and it was like an hour and 48 minutes And I'm like not our longest phone call ever but a lot longer than the ten minutes. I was planning Yeah, we spent a lot of time. Well, we kind of got on a roll planning our home gym con outline is what happened.

And then you can't stop when you're on a good roll like that. And what we ended up with is if we hit like, if we bet like even 80% on what we planned here, our content and experience at home gym cons is going to be pretty sweet. Yeah. I'm, I'm by the time we got done with that list, I was so amped up that I was already contemplating my mind. Like, can I somehow make it to home Jim Khan for like 20 hours? I almost was like, talked myself into it. And then my wife

kind of brought me back to reality and was like, do you realize what's going on here? So yeah, I was, you told her I'm wearing the green hat right now. This is the hat portion where I just come up with ideas. And then she's like, yep, you literally have lost your mind. I'm going to report you. Hey, Snoop, bring your green hat. Make money, money, take money. Yeah.

Make money, money, take money. Yeah. But home gym con, yeah, we went through and analyzed every single vendor on the list. Every single one, and there's a ton of them. There is a lot of them, and there's a lot that I'm very excited for. A lot I have no clue who they are, but a lot I'm very excited for.

And I can't wait to see. A ton of supporting member vendors, too. Yeah. they're mass on supporting members. So we're probably gonna get like every you know, most of them on camera, too hopefully, so This is too late, so I'm not gonna say it again if you were to come to home gym con I'm actually saying it again, but you're gonna get the home gym nerd sticker If you're either a supporting member or wearing some piece of Mastodonics merchandise, you're going to get that. So hopefully we give away just an assload of these.

When I say we, I guess I just mean me because not just you. I'm so I've never not said we about something we've done in 10 years. So not typically how it goes. I'm excited. I'm ex I'm ex I mix it's gonna be a very fast trip But I'm even excited about the speed of the trip where it's just gonna be real hard-hitting just get in get off get out It's what kind of that always been my model All right, are we ready to get this party started? Yeah.

The last thing I would just say again, though, do make sure to be following along our YouTube channel. That's where the home gym con content is going to funnel and it should be a lot of fun and pretty cool. So make sure you're up. Well, also by the time this comes out, we're going to be over 10,000 YouTube subscribers. So can I get a hell yeah? Oh hell yeah.

Okay, now should we do the tier list list? Let's do it, let's do it. Wait, did you make the list? Oh, I thought you were gonna have a list. You forgot to make the list for this? Oh, okay. I gotta make sure I'm looking at the right, okay Is this thing what is this that we use for the list This is figma. It's called figma. Okay, so I just figured out your little hand just figured out how to zoom

Oh, okay. You see my hand. Yeah. Yeah, I can see okay, so I can do stuff in here, too I think you can just move around. I think you're just a viewer. Oh, okay. Yeah, I can't grab this over here. Okay. Yep Yeah, I did figure out a zoom. Okay, so we got a blank slate list So what are our options our tiers are sometimes a little different than other people well Did we officially say what the actual name of this tier list is? No, you better decide to give us like an intro do you like an intro song or something really kick this off? Maybe oh, yeah I got a little something. I thought you would never ask

So much so that I wasn't even prepared to play an intro song Now I'm ready for a tier list yeah, okay, I think the I think the working title here is the gym apparel Tier list yeah, so what do we mean by apparel like because they're receiving some discussion at first like what? Yeah, so we're not talking brands. We're not talking Nike versus Masanomics versus right whatever you want. We're talking about styles of clothing that might be yeah might be yeah You know something as simple as a tank top versus an oversized t-shirt. We're gonna be talking sweatpants versus joggers. We're just Talking about different clothing you can wear to the gym and we're gonna rank it on a tier list for how We judge that item. Yeah, so here's the here's the title maybe gym apparel tier tier list tilde

Not brands and tilde What did you write on discord if you write two tildes at the front and the back of Strikes a line through it. Okay, that does the strike through is It's two tildes on both sides at first I just did one tilde on each side and it just came like with two tilde, you know, it just just the till So how did I know that was a thing though? Uh The Google machine I think but but what you were like googling how to start how to do a strike through Yeah, I want to do a strike through and it's like it's a two tildes on each side and I'm like, oh my god

This is like in serendipity. That is very odd out of all the things. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Okay So yeah, I just saw you write four little does and I'm like, do you just end the sentence with four tildes? How does it know where to end us and the sector? What's no you you sandwich it or it's like aster one Set of asterisks on each size. I tell a size is it I believe yeah, I think that's called Mark down maybe okay. There's a thing called mark down where you can put in little symbols and stuff in it Yeah, it does stuff. It does stuff. Yeah, okay, so till does be damned We're doing our gym apparel tier list All right

Do we just get right into the first one here? I guess so. Should we take it in order? I doesn't even, I just randomly wrote stuff here. So these aren't even, I just want to make sure they weren't in like a particular order because I didn't want them to. No, they're in no order here. So like, if we decide anything here doesn't belong, we also don't have to do it. And if we have any additions, you know, we could add those in certainly.

Okay. All right. Who's going first? Maybe you should go first. I feel like I went first last time all right. I'm guessing let's Let's start it off. I think we'll start this one off with something pretty simple here. Let's start it off with Okay, we'll go really simple here. Let's start off with fingerless gloves fingerless gloves in the gym Fingerless gloves are an F tier to me like you should not wear fingerless gloves You didn't think about that one much you did not think about that one There is almost no

Viable reason for someone to be wearing physical gloves kind of iconic actually I'll say an iconic gym item Kind of iconic, actually, I'll say. An iconic gym item. In that sense, like, that's iconic. It's almost like, it predates a lot of other things on the list. Practically speaking, I think they're terrible. I do not condone wearing gloves for almost any scenario. I don't want to yuck someone else's yum,

but don't wear gloves. You go into a commercial gym, and guys over the age of 40 love love themselves some fingerless gloves It's such a completely foreign concept to me having not been in the commercial gym. It would be if someone was wearing them it's like I would not this being said I would never make fun of someone for wearing fingerless gloves I mean we're kind of doing that right now, but like to their face, I feel like it's OK when I'm just like, here's your chance to not wear them.

You can listen to this and then choose to not wear them. I would if someone already chose to wear them and they're in the gym. I'm not going to be like, hey, Bozo, nice fingerless gloves. You know, like do whatever you want to. But fingerless gloves are F tier. And that's probably might be like the easiest thing on the entire list I actually completely agree. There's there's no reason for them I get it if you're new to lifting it might hurt your hands

But when you're new to a lot of things it hurts right away. There's just a little break-in period give it time You'll come around in a hurry. Oh Boy you got a lot of things on the list here Should I pick one? Yep How about Hoodies hoodies Okay, hoodies can be somewhat polarizing because

Hoodies polarizing because hoodies they might be the preferred sweatshirt blank you know a lot of people whether they say it or not a lot of people don't like crewnecks that much yeah and then I mean we know you had a zipper to a hoodie and now all of a sudden it's a coat you don't got to worry about washing it which might make it superior but not everyone wants that either so then you're back to the hoodie which is the classic go-to The thing with the hoodie is the hood really messes everything up when it comes to lifting. Do you agree? I Mean the squat of course would be the primary thing I don't in the bed. I don't like it for benching the bench. Yeah

It's I'm not actually sure which one I dislike more I I Don't prefer it for either because then you kind of got to play this game of the hoodie up the hoodie down You're always messing with it. If you got long hair, it's really annoying because it's always messing with your hair then too So the question is where does it go that You know, we're not saying much good about it right now No, I that being said I do wear hoodies in the gym sometimes, hoodies are, that is not a no fly zone for me.

No, it's not a no fly zone. For me though, it's- Actually, so here's what I like about the hoodies, hoodie. Here's a pro for the hoodie. Sometimes, I don't do this often, but if I'm a hoodie can be a tool that I use to really get into my training sometimes at times, like when I'm squatting, I put the hoodie, I put the, exactly. I put the hood up actually, then it is not in the way for like a squat.

Cause I, I can put the hood up and like the hood up is almost a, particularly in a commercial gym could be used as a defense mechanism that says, hey, my hood is up. I can not even see peripherally, probably leave me alone. I like see what you're saying. Yeah. So that's good. That could be a pro. Like you could use the hoodie that way.

Like if I walk into the gym and someone has their hoodie up and headphones on, I'm like, that person does not want to chat. That person is deeply troubled. Yeah yeah they're not chatting today mmm so that's a pro I've used it for not where I'm like I hate people and want to avoid them but I'm just like nope I'm putting this on it's an extra thing where I'm like yeah I'm really getting serious now my hood is up right I get that I get that it is it's an us another one of those things of adding to the to the lifting armor the lifting Costume to make you put your own a costume thing. Yeah, so where are you thinking? I'm curious and again

We're talking of all these in a gym lifting context not right. Yeah, we're right. I Don't know. I could be like a bee. I feel like there's that's what I was leaning towards to is a bee the hoodie you know, there's I was leaning towards to is a B the hoodie you know there's I'm not I'm not super divided on either side so I could I could make I think it has this time and place But it's not not staple level item for me. Okay. Well. I'm putting the hoodie in there. Do you like the hoodie I picked? What what did it say on it zoom in on that take a little look? Oh A disturbed See where you can tell we're on bias here because we even sell a bunch of hoodies and we didn't put hoodies in s-tier

So there you go. This is so on such an unbiased list Just so unbiased. Okay next up we're gonna go with Man we got some good ones on this list I'm gonna go with the compression under armor shirt and is this is this In reference to cutoff sleeve short sleeve long sleeve, or is it just any compression spandex shirt? Yeah, I don't have a particular, you you know I think it could be any of those I Almost lean more towards. It's either a tee or the cutoff because like I think that's the one that guys like to Word more if you're gonna see one. That's probably the one right yep, yep Oh, I'm just gonna stop saying this so I So I'm not gonna say it on every single thing.

I don't wanna poo poo you if I ever say something. Outside of fingerless gloves, I'll poo poo you on that one. The rest of them, it's like, do your own thing, whatever you like. But to me, the compression underarm shirt for lifting is not something I like at all. I don't really like the aesthetic of it. And practically speaking, I don't want that slippery shirt

for benching or squatting. No, not, I 100% agree. And also the thing with it is, in my experience, it's very, very rare that the person wearing the skin tight shirt is actually in decent shape at all like well that is also nine times out of ten It's like all the per it's like they're kind of just going to the gym Every once in a while and they're just getting into it So they're like I gotta get the tightest shirt I can

When I'm going to the gym either that or it's like it's like a high school kid that weighs 130 pounds I really don't have anything good to say about it. It's like an F tier for me I would agree because I don't want that hate to fill up. I don't want that here already But that's just don't want that slippery skin tight shirt when I'm at the gym and also having no sleeves on it, too Yeah, that's a that's an effort Okay, okay Let's go Let's go with this let's mix it up. We'll go a baseball cap.

Baseball cap in the gym. Some people do it all the time. Yeah, I can see this one having a really wide range of opinions because more polarizing than yes, because half people are just half people. And if you don't, you're just like you don't care at all. I've I actually not sure have ever worked out with a baseball cap on before.

Definitely a stocking cap. That's not unusual, but a baseball cap. I mean, I've always had long hair. It just, it's kind of annoying with long hair. I haven't worn baseball caps. And I used to wear them all the time. You used to always have a cap on. Like, VC Tanner without a cap on was weird.

Yeah, I used to wear them all the time. Then I got long hair and hats just don't fit the same when you have, especially my hair's like, like very like shiny or slippery like a hat, just like slides on my hair all the time. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't work well. Yeah. To wear with that.

I used to, I used to lift in caps. Oh, you did. I mean, you go back and look at any old massonomics photoshoot For the for the t-shirt we're wearing Tanner has a cap on in it, you know Like that was just a thing you had When I cut my hair again or someday when I eventually don't have long hair I'll probably start wearing caps again the capital back on. Yeah I

Don't know like People love them or hate them. I'm actually both because I don't like it when I have long hair when I have short hair I like it But that almost to me puts it like in a B. It's like the hoodie to me a little bit Yeah, I could be swayed for me. It would be a seat here like in a home gym It just has like no real practical application for me. Like a stocking cap actually keeps you warm You know when it gets really cold here, right? it'd be it to me it's an easy seat here just cuz I I

Mean, I feel so not strongly about it that I've never done it before and I have no desire to but If you think B I can I could be put a really care. No, I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna die on the cap hill because I don't really like I just I Don't think it's a but for some people it would probably be ass There's definitely people where it's a group of people that is absolutely nice where it's like not just for Jim Jim life They're like, yeah, I don't leave the house without a cap on it and I could you know, I know those people are out there Yeah, but I'm good at see actually okay all right next up let's

go with this old classic the old cutoff t-shirt yep that is also the only thing I wore to the gym for probably the first ten years that I wore to the gym wasn't a cutoff t-shirt you know as a graphic cutoff t-shirt and it was probably either the high school or college I went to or a sports team that I liked. I mean just the very classic cutoff t-shirt to the gym. I don't wear cutoff shirts anymore. I don't know why when exactly that changed but at a certain point in time I decided I don't that's not Not the look I enjoy as well. I Do think it's a very classic though, like it's very it's pretty high up there for me

Even though I don't wear them. I think it's a pretty high ranking item Hmm, but I don't wear them, I think it's a pretty high ranking item. But I don't wear them. I like that way more than the... I like a shirt that's been cut off a lot more than a shirt that was made to be sleeveless. Oh yes. Like the Under Armour comparison. Well, but I mean a tank top is made to be sleeveless as well And we're right. I guess I do like a tank top. Yeah, I do like a tank top

I'm more so the underarmors that style comparison. I don't like that See cutoffs are weird I don't know Man, this is one I'm really torn. I have not I don't even know if I man, this is one I'm really torn on, because I have not, I don't even know if I actually personally own a cutoff right now. And that's actually me not having any problem with them. I just, at one point-

I like your pictures, Huck Finn, because it's the only thing he wears all the time. Yeah. It is. Oh, boy. I don't know. I'm probably in that B-ish area. It's definitely not an F. I don't think it's a C tier either

I'm probably a B tier on on cutoffs These fine with me because I'd be a or B on cutoff. So I don't really I'm either of those I think are fair For me it is summertime. Maybe I need to make a few cutoffs Have the Huck Finn Huck Finn is gonna be at the lift hard live easy class We get Karen to do the hot cut for us and introduce them to the Dakota cut Yeah, we're what's that where you just cut one sleeve off, right? classic Dakota cut

One sleeve off Okay, um, let's go jockstrap. Oh, jockstrap. Oh baby. Oh yeah, man, my Google images are lightin' up right now. Oh man, you get some interesting images. It seems like it should be pretty straightforward, Oh man, you get some interesting images. It seems like it should be pretty straightforward, but man, this is quickly going to different territory here.

I wonder if jockstraps have just disappeared from being, like jockstraps sales in the last 25 years have probably gone down 1000%. I would, I would guess that number is closer to like 10,000%. It's gotten to like when I was in junior high and even into high school, like people wore jockstrap. I must've, I must've just football. Yeah.

I must've just missed that. Cause I think what, uh, it was like under armor had just become a thing and just spandex for everything. That's what we had a lot of people they wore a jockstrap and then spandex. Oh really? Oh yeah. Like the jockstrap was just like the first layer. They were multiply. Yes, yes. Wow. No, I've, man, I have my- Fai said they were required for his high school P E class.

What? Wow. Required for high school P E that's. Oh, okay. I think I might remember that in junior high that it was like, you have to wear a jockstrap. Dude, it was not a requirement for us. Um, yeah, I, I, I don't have any experience with one. I've never, I we've, I've literally never had to use one before.

I think they suck. They're super itchy and like, I never liked a jockstrap. Oh, I think it's to me it is probably an F. It's a very antiquated. Yeah, it's undergarment now the real trick is the correct slide here boy hopefully we get to something good I'm really really really okay well this will just have to do right here, okay? Yeah, we said after right you don't want you don't want to pull your your oh, yeah We each get one. Oh, that's worth noting We each get one veto card for the whole list where it's like nope I choose I

Don't know what happens if we have one item that we both want to pull our veto veto card on it Where I think it's an F and you think it's an S I guess we'll cross that bridge if we come to it. But we each get one veto card where you get to put it in whatever slot you want to. Okay. Okay, my turn. I'm going to go with,

all right, we'll go pretty conservative here. I'm gonna go with crew length socks. Crew length socks. I love crew length socks. I Love crew length socks bit of a resurgence in the last few years here Although I'm not like really passionate about that choice in the sense that if you're like here all you can wear today is ankle Socks and I beg well, I'll make that work for that reason. I'd give it like an a because I I'm just like it's not quite s I it's basically as good as things that we put an s in my opinion, but I just am not that like hardcore

about the decision. I guess is my thought. Yeah, I'm a I own socks of different lengths. And I do perform me some crew length socks on certain days of the week And I'm very comfortable putting this at an a tier item. I Think that's a good spot for it. No It's gonna find a pair socks to find them go to massomics comm Oh, do we still have some in stock right now? Oh, yeah, we actually have great massonomics organic ad spot Head over to massonomics comm we have the some a few pairs of the black and gray crew link socks sale at this very moment There we go

Okay, yeah a crew link that's a good good a tier Maybe how many have we ranked so far? One two three five six seven Maybe we should do one or two more and then stop for like maybe an ad break or we do a little supporting our supporting members and that sort of thing. OK, all right, let's

do something, something different than how about. Slides, slides, people wear slides in the gym sometimes. Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? I've witnessed this firsthand. I've seen people enjoy a good pair of slides in the gym. I'm not a fan.

I'm not a fan of slides in the gym. I do not like, I don't, I just like feeling a little more locked in than what slides provide. Also, slides for sale on Mass Time, because I'm barely, we have like one size, a couple pairs left. That just, like if you like a size of eight or something, yeah, you can get it.

Yeah, I think it's just size six. Oh, size 10, there's one. I've done it in my life before. I've worn my slides in my gym for certain things. I I can get by with it depending on what I'm doing to me It's not quite an F because I could see it so it's more like a C to me Yeah, if you're gonna say no F then I'm I'm happy with the C on that one Yeah, I mean I get why people would want to but I just kind of like wearing functional shoes in the gym Yeah, I like doing just a little more locked in than a pair of slides.

Yeah. Should we do one more? And then we'll do one more here. And then we'll hit the pause on the tier list. Yeah, let's go with the headband. Wait, are we talking like a headband or a sweatband? You guess you have your druthers of what we want that to be. Boy.

Because I wasn't sure. I thought about all those things. See, no one really wears head sweat bands anymore, do they? Like the. Just really old people, right? Like, you know. I don't even know if old people do even. When I think of that, I picture like a 70 year old guy

at the YMCA that walks around the track. Like I know there was guys like that that wore headbands. Right, or you need to be in really good shape and have a bald head. Yeah. Where you actually sweat and it justifies the functional piece. I think for the most part we're talking about

the more of like just the headband, like the spandex band, right? Right. We've sold a couple different variations. That's more applicable. Yeah. It is pretty functional. It's somewhat stylish. Once it's on, you don't even really know what's on.

I just don't like wearing a lot of extra stuff. It's probably like it's probably actually is like a B tier item. I would pick a headband over a baseball cap all day and we have baseball cap all day And we have baseball cap at C's so by that logic it has to be at least a B I'm good with a B on the headband when we've came out with our first one. I wore that for quite a while and My hair with a perfect length then where it wasn't long enough to put in like an easy ponytail But it was like fairly long where the headband served a really good purpose for me for a While so if you have kind of like that length hair it works pretty well

And they see if I can find a picture do we have one online anywhere? No, we do not ours has been scrubbed from the web, okay? It's hard to find one that doesn't just have some of the logos, so just write on it. Well, I'll find that. Okay, do you want to move to the next thing here, Tanner? Yeah, let's go to supporting our supporting members, actually, which is a relatively new segment of the Massomics podcast. We haven't always been doing it. It's something we added in at one point in time.

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competitors there and it looked like it went really well. Big Lucas was one of those competing he competed in masters and got first place in his his division and punched his ticket to Masters Nationals. Nice. Big Lisa was also there volunteering, helping out big Kevin competed at blue tip strongest he got fourth out of six in the 200 pound open class, including a pretty sweet 265 pound sandbag to shoulder maneuver that he pulled off. Nice. Yeah. Big Kurt with the

sea did his first ever competition. It was an arm lifting USA Super Series. And he won the 80 kilogram weight class. Big Brad V pad competing in his first Highland games event ever as a lightweight. And he hit a PRS in both the stone and hammer throw. Big Evan with a Y competed at Alberta's strongest provincials. Big Garrett W handed over command as of his United States Air Force squadron after two years in charge. Yeah, big Doc Yak got a pacemaker installed. Oh man. So his tickers ticking. Big Maxwell got hitched.

So congrats on the funeral. And then Big Jakey was this week's guest on Unpaid and Underrated. Go give it a listen. What do you think? Should we do a certified training facility? Yeah. Are you drinking anything over there?

I am parched. Oh my God. I wondered why I was so damned thirsty. And I'm like kind of having a panic here. I don't see my drink spotter chill That is not very chill of you When they're Bernie took it he's looking pretty chill back there He's also looking pretty damn suspicious

Twiddling his thumbs. I don't even know he had thumbs Yeah, I got my drink spotter chill right here the newest drink spotter in the Mastin drink spotter collection. And inside of it, I have a, that gives us old thing. That's right. It's a blackberry bubbly. What do you got? I got a Kirkland sparkling water lime. I bet it tastes disgusting out of that. No drink spotter chill.

It's certainly hurting the beverage experience. One of the more versatile drink spotters we've ever had is this drink spotter chill. Yes it is. Certified training facility of the week. Okay, I literally just clicked two dots. This was the second one, the first one I clicked on, didn't have photos, big, big mistake there.

If you have a certified training facility, get photos on. Please send us your photos if you're already certified. If you're not certified, get signed up. But randomly, those mistake there. If you have a certified training facility, get photos on. Please send us your photos if you're already certified. If you're not certified, get signed up. But send us those damn photos. Randomly click this one and it caught my attention. We're going to a little place called St. Louis, Tanner. Okay. There's a little gym in there called XL Barbell.

XL Barbell in St. Louis And they followed the assignment well they have two photos even better If you think one's good just wait till you try to place is nice So let me get zoomed in if I can find st. Louis here Okay, so you said XL barbell? Okay, excellent. I'm tracking. Got the photo pulled up.

Okay. Yeah. So what photo are we looking at? I'm looking at the first one here. Okay. And I believe it's at a pretty steep angle here. But I is that a rhino? I think that's a rhino. Isn't it? In the foreground? Yeah, in the foreground here. Or is that a little different? I think that's a rhino, isn't it? In the foreground? Yeah, in the foreground here.

Or is that a little different? You can see it in the very background of the second picture, but I didn't even think of looking at that one. If it's not a rhino, it certainly looks like a rhino. Looks like a rhino, smells like a rhino. We're gonna say it's a rhino. Tastes like a rhino. We'll say that's a rhino.

I think it's the weight ones on the side are throwing me off. But yeah, I mean it's three by three upright So you could easily do I've never thought of that before the gym doesn't have that does it? No, I don't have any ways. I have I I have a To the side of it right. I like the weight horn idea, but I have a roller a straight-og strength roller off the side of ours Because I do a lot of people do the leg roller. ours because I do, a lot of people do. Oh, the leg roller, yes. Yeah, leg roller, a lot of people do elevated, or not elevated, do single leg pistol squats, I don't know, whatever you call that.

Or I've actually, recently I lowered the roller down even farther on the Rhino and I've used it for Nordic curls. Oh, you have, okay have okay? Yeah, okay? Yeah, I need to be doing a little bit of that. All right, sir. Yes, I believe it first. We have the Rhino Obviously great piece actually looking around This appears to be a basement, right? Yep. We got a basement on our hands a basement gym floor covered in horse stall mats I'm seeing a little variety. It looks like there's a couple of diamond plate ones peppered in here Yep, we got a basement on our hands. We got a basement gym floor covered in horse stall mats I'm seeing a little variety. It looks like there's a couple of diamond plate ones peppered in here

He's got some of that that diamond plate action there Yeah, so I got some of that there is a and then kind of long lines of flooring There is a deadlift platform in the back of the gym as well So he's got the flooring part down in this first photo though you see the Rhino we got some different flags banners things like that on the wall and Outside of the Rhino you can see there's some bar storage on the wall And there is a power rack in the middle, and I can't totally flat foot rack right yeah flat foot rack very similar to the one I have but

That is is that a drink spotter on the top of it? I think so the top right corner looks like a drink spotter the photo just a little pixelated so it's hard to tell but Looks like that. He's got a bar in there. I think we need to go to photo 2 to see the rest of this and When you go to photo 2 first of all in the foreground Tanner, we got like a like a t-bar row here Yeah, you don't see a lot of those in home gyms. That's uh, that's unusual That's a sweet piece. Yeah, that's a different piece his deadlift platform is like the rogue one or tight Yeah, it has like a bandage on it It's got a nice double deadlift jack with a bar, you know deadlift bar sitting there set up

He's got a tripod right there in the gym conveniently, of course Is that like a adjustable squat stand? Like in front of the T-bar row? Adjustable squat box. Looks like some type of leg curl, leg extension. Leg extension combo. Right there. Lap pull down in the back.

That looks like it must have came out of a commercial gym, the way that thing looks. And in the way back corner, I almost can see it on the left side almost pads for like a GHR I think there does that look okay to you He's got good decor on the walls. I'm noticing a pioneer flag juggernaut. He's got the juggernaut AI Flag in there. So I don't see a ton of those around so it's a large one. I think he's got two different live large ones Yeah, he's got two different live large ones weight tree we got a bench. Just can't quite tell what bench that is from over here,

but overall pretty good looking basement, Jim. At Peter Wink on Instagram. Last thing as I'm looking though, and I don't know if we've clearly stated this yet or not, but as you check it out, Tommy, do you think you could get strong here? Oh, hell yeah. Me and at Peter Wink getting hella strong

in the XL Barbell Club. Oh yeah, you love to see getting strong in there. Great gym right there. Okay, should, I'm gonna maybe hit an ad. Do you wanna start booting some people off while I do that? Good call. Cause then you're gonna have to do an ad now here

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I think that is, I think that Toby Keith, RIP, had Texas Power Bars in mind when he said I love this bar. It was kind of like a brand partnership thing. Yeah, yeah. I think that's him and Buddy Caps sat down and he's like, Buddy, what do you think about this? And but he's like, hell yeah, Toby, I like it. It's just like a power bars. How would you love this bar? Like Toby went and grabbed a Texas power bar.

You know what he said to himself? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I love this bar. Buddy Caps is like, yeah, there it is. There it is. Oh, it was like a Johnny Cash movie doc, like docu drama or any singer ever docu drama where it's like they show how you just stumble into it. Yeah. And it's like, oh, yeah, I do love this bar. Right. Yeah.

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rebe and warm pants and old classic massonomics classic. And it's specifically blue re-band warm pants and old classic massonomics classic and it's specifically blue re-band warm pants. Yeah. I mean, you know, like people of culture here. Yeah. No other color is acceptable. For anyone that doesn't know blue re-band warm pants, you can just get the hell out right now. You can just shut this podcast off. We don't like your kinder on here. I don't know how I'm actually just donning hell out right now. You can just shut this podcast off. We don't like your kinder on here. I don't know how I'm actually just donning on me right now.

I don't have a pair of these. Yeah, you might need to get a pair of those. Just I really should. I should have been wearing those all winter when it was so cold in the gym. That actually would be pretty good. I'm not perfect because you they make you so hot. Oh, I it's actually just dawning on me. How about that crazy? I never thought of this

I actually as we've been I'm like now that I'm squatting more and stuff again in my my I have My hips sometimes bark at me. I'm like I might start wearing my blue rebound or some squat dates here It's actually amazing to me that no one else has really taken them on in this product category. SBD has not, A7 has not. Who else makes neoprene stuff? I think everyone just knows that they can't compete with the blue. It's like what color would we even make them?

Kind of surprising because the number of strongmen that wear these, I don't know, is it worn? I think there's a few other ones that exist. Is there other companies? Yeah. I guess servers have some don't they? Yeah. Yeah.

But the point is that. Blue Rebend is the classic though. It is. Everything else is just imitator, right? Yeah. That's certainly iconic, especially for strong man, of course. But even at a certain point, even in historically, I guess it wasn especially for strong man, of course, but even at a certain point, even in historically, I guess it wasn't just strong man.

Like there's a lot of people that were just wearing these. Yeah. Power lifters. I don't know, maybe Olympic lifters even. Yeah. I don't know. So what tier, what tier are you feeling on the blue? I mean, iconic, check.

Functional, check. Fashion item, check. No long pants to get in the way, check. Iconic check functional check fashion item check No long pants to get in the way check like it kind of hits all the boxes here, doesn't it? It does are you thinking s-tier? I mean do we have our first s-tier of the day? I think we've got an s-tier with the blue pants and I just put something on my wish list Yeah Also, you know, you got a good product when you can call it by the factually incorrect article of clothing and still get away with it.

It's like, we're gonna come out with pants that are called shorts. How would that work? We're gonna do like do massonomics pants and they're just actually shorts or vice versa. You know, it's like, Yep. That's how good they were

damn Well, I just I never noticed your picture used for jockstrap Yeah, believe it or not there was a lot to decide from there Okay, so we got our first s here I was wondering if we're gonna get one of those out of this got something like that. I like it Alright next up on the list, let's hit up. Let's hit up cutoff hoodies. Yeah, so this was a requested item. I think people said they want to cut off hoodies.

You know, we talked about hoodies already. So we're saying cutoff hoodies. That's like the Bill Belichick cutoff kind of sort of thing. Yes. I don't think I've ever had one. If I'm being frank about that. I don't think I have either because typically it's a real, it's a real mixing of worlds

when you got the hoodie because you want to be warm but you've taken the sleeves off, which seems like it's not like the rebound where the warm pants were Removing the bottom of the half bottom half of them gets you cold because they're so tight You know the rebands are locking in the heat. You know he can't go anywhere right here You got a hoodie on but now which is like extra fabric and a hood and all that But then you also don't really have the warming powers of the hoodie because you've put two large vent holes in it Yeah, so I think it's losing in functionality

Still got the annoying hood to deal with most of the time. It's probably like a C tier item Because what did we put the hoodie out is be yeah, I think it's C C to me Yeah, I think that's that's the right spot to save bed. Okay Okay, how about Now we talked about Warm pants. That's one thing There was also a fad back when we were more earlier getting on into lifting that was popularized by some of the popular power lifters at the time that a

Lot of us got in on it and that, but I don't see it very often anymore. We're gonna go leggings or, I mean, I guess that's what I would call it is leggings. Yeah. And I probably have like four pairs still sitting in my drawer that I just never wear because now I don't, I don't know what it seemed.

What was the, like Chad Wesley Smith was always wearing them and There was a certain he ran he did a lot of virus. Yeah. Yeah, he did a lot Bryce Lewis wore him a lot I was the other one I was thinking about I feel like maybe there's some guys that could deadlift a lot that would Wear them, but I'm just it's so long ago. I'm having children. Yeah, Mass Thetix guys would So long ago, I'm having trouble. The Mastetix guys would wear them. I know that. Yeah. There would be other people at the gym that were wearing them.

I had a couple pairs I would wear. Yep, I did too. I didn't mind them. But I would usually, I think almost always, wear shorts over the top of them. Like when we're talking long leggings here, you don't have just like spandex shorts. Right.

I actually the other day thought about putting them on because sometimes if I'm wearing shorter shorts on deadlift day, the bar can, you know, if you're bringing it along your thighs, can start to irritate it after enough reps. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually thought of putting them on, but I didn't because I'm not even sure if I could find out to do some look and even track down where the hell those things are at. But I don't know. I don't wear them anymore They probably keep you like if you get a thicker pair they would definitely keep you warm, but They are functional I will give them that I don't know I'm kind of torn on this one

Yeah, I could see, I could see a B. I don't really see anyone wearing them though. So like the fact that like nobody wears them, does that, is that, are they, is that for a reason? And then are they a C? Like at one point in time, these probably were like an A. If you would ask me at the perfect moment eight years ago

I've been like oh love wearing those Yeah, I probably The biggest variable with him is how you decide to wear him, you know if you're going leggings only if you're adding a pair of shorts or something on top of them because that can really change up the look in a hurry But oh big time. I don't know I'd probably lean towards that B or a area I think B then Okay, I don't think they're as good as crew-length socks no no No, you can't be wearing these things when it's 90 degrees around here you'd melt That's right crew- socks. You can wear anytime

Okay be I'm cool with that All right next up we got Do okay, we're back to socks. We're going ankle socks this time What ankle socks to me in the gym are definitively worse than crew link socks So in my eyes the highest they can be as a B. I have no problem with ankle link socks I wear them to the gym. Sometimes I just like crew link socks better God, you know, you just got right to the point there and kind of logic that went into position I can't even really argue with that. I I think I would agree on everything there, too

Yeah, it's just you got socks and you want them out of the way that's what it does It doesn't maybe give you those benefits of crew length, you know a little extra warmth Maybe some padding around your legs and ankles in case you got it Also, you get to show off some branding or style right you lose the style points because they're not there I think they're just kind of less in style anyways right now too, so I'm a boy that might just slide off your ankle if they're old. Well, yeah, that's if you get the bad ones Yeah, that's actually the worst part of a bad pair of crew length socks

They just got holes in them a bad pair of ankle socks. They got holes in them. They don't stay up They're annoying for every every time you you they down. Like the worst feeling is having your sock down halfway off your heel and fall it like there's nothing in the world that's worse than that feeling. The worst, the worst, most painful feeling in the world is when you're crew legs, when you got that, you got your barefoot boots on, you're going for a walk with the dog and it's negative 20 outside and you didn't realize it until you're Like a block away, but you wore crew-length socks and every step is of that is slowly The boot is slowly pulling the crew are sorry the ankle length sock down a little more a little more and this is almost actually

More no-show is what we're talking here But yeah Yeah And then it's negative 20 outside and you realize that your sock after 10 minutes of walking is now at the tip of your Footwear and yeah, that is the worst Are you putting them in a them there? Oh shit. Sorry. I just Know where's the sea? Okay, how about oh

Here's an iconic one the string tank, particularly in the bodybuilding world. Can't say that we've seen a ton of I just takes in Mastinomics gym. I just picture a gym stringer here like that. I owned a gold's gym stringer tank top. I mean, I maybe still do if I look dig dug around enough. I 10 years ago, I've worn that to the gym before. Well, actually, my timelines wait. Actually, the weird thing happened. I've been going to the gym long enough. I always say

like 10 years, but I'm like, 15 years ago, I wore that. The 10 year timeline doesn't work anymore. Or it's like 17 years ago, I wore that to the gym. And I think I still have one of those. I have a black golds gym stringer I don't like them I don't they are kind of iconic for a gym piece of apparel they are iconic the thing about a stringer though is it's maybe more than anything on the list just dependent on who is wearing it I mean it's so like yeah if you jacked, I mean a stringer just probably accentuates that and shows that off more than anything Boogs can wear a stringer and it looks cool. I mean yes like that like that's that's the Right there, isn't it? Well, he also has the aura that it's like no this guy can wear kind of silly shit

Oh, it's cool a hundred percent. You're like like in any situation, you could put most people in booze clothes and be like, oh, why are you wearing that? And like, he could walk in and you're like, well, of course, of course you're wearing that. Like, yeah, like look at you. That's just like, to me, the stringer is the ultimate one

where it's, there's a select group of people that can pull it off. And if you're not sure, then yeah, you can't pull it off. Like, you know. More people are probably not pulling it off than And if you're not sure, then yeah, you can't pull it off. More people are probably not pulling it off than are. Oh no, that's what I'm saying. It's a, I don't know, like 1% of people that wear a stringer tank top

are the ones that can actually pull it off. So because of that, it's maybe the most, it's probably the highest expert level piece of clothing on this list. Right. Which I think by default makes it go pretty low. Like I've never had a stringer and I mean I still feel like I'd be like oh this guy looks out of shape

wearing a stringer you know. Yeah. I'm leaning towards that C. Yeah I was gonna say I'm leaning towards that C category. Yeah I mean could you make a case for F for the stringer? Oh, I I very I very well could I mean it's just pretty iconic No, that is like for most people most people it is an F to your item because right is not it can be very not Flattering right unless you got the right build, but yeah, if you are got the right build man

Stringer more power to you. Yeah Okay Stringer, more power to you. Yeah. Okay. Next up, let's, I think this is almost a two par one here. I'm going to take the first one here. Let's go with joggers. Hmm. We're talking sweatpants. Joggers.

I wear joggers to the gym sometimes now, especially living in South Dakota in the winter. I do that. Whole different animal if it's squat day and you're someone that wears knee sleeves, or even if you don't, it's just different wearing articles of clothing that hang loosely all the way off of, you know, down to your, there if you're squatting, or almost deadlifting, I can make a case for that.

That is the thing I 100 can make that for the that is the thing. I I've 100% agree with you on that is when it's a squat day I know it'll be putting knee sleeves on like when I when I'm wearing joggers that's because it's cold out and so if I'm squatting I know I'm be putting knee sleeves on and so I try to not really wear joggers or I just have shorts on underneath so that when I'm warm enough for my knee sleeves to go on, the joggers come off. And because of that, they lose a few points in functionality

because it is annoying with squats if knee sleeves are involved. Especially if you have to do anything different with your shoes that they're already on at that point. Yes, because they're tight. Yes, yeah, you gotta take everything off. But I do like for deadlift how they're just out of the way. Like that is nice.

And a lot of other exercises that involve leg or lower body stuff. There's not all this extra fabric that's in your way. Like that, it's just a simpler thing. Like that does make it nice. I don't know, they're a little more stylish too than your baggy sweatpants. So I don't know, I'm probably leaning towards,

So I don't, I'm probably leaning towards, I'm maybe leaning towards like a B on joggers. Yeah, I think they're a B. I'm good at B. Okay. They have some functionality issues depending on what style of lifting you do. Well, yeah, but their issues can also be benefits, you know, depending on the day.

That's true. Yes, that is what it really depends on is what you're lifting that day But that being said I Do wear joggers to the gym. So do we want to do regular sweatpants as a separate thing or is that? Yeah, I think we got to take that on next year. That's the flip side of the coin here So, you know not joggers old-school sweatpants Would be the other alternative Which I don't really own many pairs of I don't they're almost hard to get now like just a pair of baggy

I so well it actually is becoming more in style But even a lot of the biggie ones now still have a cuff or something on the bottom So they're sort of have a band like joggers, but they're baggy. Right. You know, it's kind of the flip side where, all right, usually they're easier to take on and off because there's more room.

You can throw a pair of knee sleeves on under them very easily. You got unlimited room. Larry wears them to the gym still. Dude, he squats on them all the time and puts knee sleeves underneath. Yeah, I for years wore, I had like two different pairs that I would wear to

Massanomics gym remember that one pair I had that said Iowa on it to this day I have no idea where I got those sweatpants or where they came from But I always had these ones that said Iowa and I would wear those to the gym all the time and Yeah, they're just really easy. You don't have to take your shoes off to get them off They're comfortable. They're loose Maybe a little less stylish. But, baggy sweatpants. I maybe lean towards a C on those maybe. That's fine, I was either going to say also a B

next to the joggers, or a C. I think I'm good at either of those spots. I think I'll go, I'm leaning towards a C. Okay. Here's what I've been having my eye on is a mesh shorts, lower body garment. To me, mesh shorts are ST an S tier garment for me in the gym. Like I almost can't not wear mesh shorts to the gym. They're just classic, they just always look good. I got a, Massonomics, massonomics.com,

we have a few pairs for sale on there that you can buy. Especially like the mesh, like quite honestly, the mesh shorts that we sell, what do we add, do we advertise these as a five inch in seam or? Yeah, something like that. Six or five or six inch in, not just because we sell them, the mesh shorts that we sell are my favorite thing

to wear to the gym is the mesh shorts that we sell. Yeah, so what, are you leaning towards, am I hearing an S tier maybe here? Yeah, that would be an S tier to me, which is odd to me that the only two things in S tier are shorts. But I mean, maybe it's not odd going to the gym. Like you're saying like, yeah, you like shorts are a good place to start.

I guess that's not crazy. They are two very different things. The mesh shorts and the rebound. That's that's the thing, though. You got to have a little bit of both in your life. Yeah, I totally agree. Mesh shorts. They're awesome. Like we've been in search of building the perfect mesh short for years now and

it's amazing that it finally happened last year about this time we brought it into existence and Yeah, they've been a great product. I have more pairs of mesh shorts now than I ever thought I would own in my entire life Yes Okay, what's next on the list here? We're getting down there. There's not a ton left to cover here. Oh, what is left? Let's go with flannel button-ups. Flannels in the gym. This is something if you go in Massimics gyms, particularly in the winter,

you'll see people wearing these. I always picture Larry in a red one. Am I, or is that, would he wear that to the gym and then take it off, or did he work out in that too? He would definitely work out in that before. There's a number of people that I still see work out and Ryan Anderson will frequently wear a flannel. I have at times, especially the winter,

South Dakota is just different because people will show up. Like depending on the time of the year, I guess it's not different. A lot of places are like this, but a place that has seasons, extreme seasons, you will see vastly different clothing being worn depending on the time of the year. So you're not going to see someone in there with a flannel right now.

But in December, you will like probably any given day, you will see someone wearing that. It's also has kind of a old-school Power-lifter look to it very much. Oh that that west side. Yeah, that's side Louis Simmons look So it's kind of iconic in that way. I don't really Wear a much you do a nice a pro of it. I'd say is you have the options of Unbuttoned, you know where it's'd say, is you have the options of unbuttoned. You know where it's like, okay, I'm like,

have some of the worms, but yeah, it's vented. Right, right. So that's a pro of the buttons probably. Yeah, God, I'm just trying to think. I don't know. As a guy that owns many flannels and wears them in the wintertime, I'm not sure if I've ever actually worn one

to the gym before. Maybe that's what I've been missing all winter. Freaking gym flannel. As a con, sometimes they can get tight around the arms. Yeah, they can be restricting, yes, for sure. That's why it's got to be the right one. The right one, yeah. It's got to be that oversized, lots of room kind of thing.

Yeah, it does need to be the right one I think that that's fair It's also a look that some people probably can't pull off either if I'm being honest like some people can't pull it off as well as others Yeah, not everyone's from the upper Midwest where it's just natural, you know, that's right So what what here do you think on that? I don't know if I could really make my mind. I'm not really you know it's not an F, and it's not an ass I know that yeah, I'm kind of leaning more towards that B to C area I

Feel like it's a B. Just because I think the iconic nature even though I don't wear I don't know I don't wear them, so I can't like defend it all that much, but I have It's kind of everything in B territory is stuff that I So I can't like defend it all that much, but I have. It's kind of everything in B territory is stuff that. I have worn, but I don't really actively wear. All right. OK. Yep, I can be down for that. B makes sense. All right. What do we got left here? Oh, I just I added this because I'm like, I feel like we're missing something here.

The very bottom one is just a T-shirt like a cotton t-shirt. Oh or maybe a blend t-shirt a cotton basically a Cotton probably a cotton graphic t-shirt. I say I say pick your shirt Yeah, a t-shirt. It's like an s-tier gym essential, isn't it? Like yeah, no one can ever fault you ever for wearing a T-shirt. Just wearing a regular normal fitting T-shirt at the gym. That's just S tier, right? All day long.

I mean, is there anything else that just always works as well as a T-shirt? You can't really go wrong. Yeah, you can't go wrong with that. Like every person can pull that off. Whether you're an enormous jacked bodybuilder wearing an kind of an oversized baggy t-shirt, that looks pretty sick. You're just someone getting started at the gym.

That looks like you fit in, you know, like whether you're 16 or whether you're 65 in the gym, everyone kind of fits in in a regular regular t-shirt. I think whether it's a new t-shirt You just bought from Astonomics or it's a 25 year old t-shirt. You can wear it to the gym Yeah, it just it works. It never goes out of style like short stop short styles go in and out like things change their Sweatpants we've talked about several versions here. Those always go in and out but the tea I mean the t-shirt is the t-shirt like what changes is about several versions here, those always go in and out. But the T, I mean, the T-shirt is the T-shirt.

Like what changes is you can get 10 billion colors, 10 billion imprints. Like you're saying, you can change up the size, the material, whatever, but the T-shirt is king. It's the T-shirt, STL all day. All right. Do we wanna do compression? Like we don't have to do all these things on the list either like maybe we can maybe we can skip Number 20. I don't know if we do that one

I don't have a lot of input on that Okay, well I added one last one so we don't just end the game so broadly let's say compression shorts, okay Again, we're gonna do compression shorts Okay, so we're gonna do compression shorts Okay, so we're gonna do compression shorts Okay, so we're gonna do compression shorts Okay, so we added one last line, so we don't just end the game so broadly let's say compression shorts, okay Again we're kind of talking we're kind of talking leggings that are shorter So a lot of the same merits would apply here really

Cut slicing and dicing I've noticed several things on the list Justin Just revolve around changing the tightness and length of the item This is what kind of the difference in usually though I Don't know I guess I would just say it's a B because that's where the leggings went So I feel like it's a B. Yeah, I that's pretty safe. That's a pretty safe bet. Yeah, it's hard to I mean you could even potentially say an eight years if you're going to talk about like underwear and things like that. You know, as a compression short, but right. Well, that that's actually my thing.

I used to wear more what I would just at the time call spandex. I used to be like, oh, I'm going to the gym. I'm going to put my spandex on over time. My brocks are briefs. A lot of the brands they've become so much just like spandex anyways. It's like, no, I'm just wearing my underwear because it's kind of the same thing. This is just I totally forgot to bring this up. I the underwear trials and tribulations

I've been through in like the last month for is all the pants pooping No, um I'm at a point where it's like, okay. Yep need to need to update the old underwear drawer Yeah, and dude, I'm telling you man It used to be this we used to be a proper frickin country when you could depend You could depend you could old reliable you could go to the store You get a six pack of I pack through the loom or hands and you could know you had they might not be the nicest But you had a good quality product on your hand. They were fine. They got the job done that

I'll tell you right now that has changed They were fine. They got the job done that I'll tell you right now that has changed They are can't just get those they are not you can get those they are bad like bad bad bad products now Cuz that's what I thought Mike. Well, I've done this multiple times in my life. Yeah, we'll just do the upgrade We'll throw away old ones start fresh here. I Went through the looms Not good. Not good at all. Just bad, they're just bad.

Like you can just tell they've cheapened it up so much. It's just a terrible product in every way. I'm like, oh, Hanes were always worse for me, but maybe I'll try that. So then I go buy. I thought Hanes would be a step. I always thought Hanes was one mild, very mild step up from Fruit of the World.

No, for me, Hanes were always worse because they're always tighter in the legs. They were too tight. I don't even have that big of legs and they were too tight in the legs. And I got. No, for me, Hanes are always worse because they're always tighter in the legs. They were too tight. I don't even have that big of legs and they were too tight in the legs. And I got them like, God damn, it feels like I have a burlap sack around my groin right now. It was so tight.

I shouldn't say they were so tight. They fit correctly, but they were like just, oh, I could have sworn I got the ones with some type of blend. They were just like straight up cotton and they didn't not give, the very first day I wore them, I went out go squat the first warm-up set down blew him out I'm like really blowing out my underwear doing warm-up squats like really it was so annoying and

That just took me down the road of you start looking at premium underwear for men And also you're looking at like 30 plus dollars a pair which is so expensive. You can spend like $30 a pair on underwear which is kind of wild but. So I guess long story short I've settled on Saks underwear for now $30 a pair it gets the job done it's they're fine they're nice they don't ride up they're not perfect but they're okay so it's okay. Yeah underwear though. So no Hanes and fruit of the loom. Oh, they're off the list

Can't even rely on can't even rely on the basics anymore God we use that honestly does make me feel like we used to be a proper brick and good tree. I Agree But back to compression shorts. Yeah, they're they're like a probably an A or a B tier depending on how you want to use them Yeah, I'm good with either spot there Boy Well a tear only has socks in it I Don't know if compression shorts are as good as crew lengths. I know that's all right. I kind of lean towards the beach here

as good as crew length. I know that's where I kind of lean towards the beach here. So we'll go beef. We've kind of gone through our list, but I'm wondering what did we miss? What didn't we do? One thing I'm going to say like for footwear, the only thing we really talked is socks and slides. Like, do we want to specifically say,

like, I don't know what you get into then. Like, yeah, you're going to wear shoes. Yeah, the footwear game gets too endless. There's a million different like, yeah. Yeah, and that's very going to wear shoes. Yeah, the footwear game gets too endless. There's a million different flight. Yeah. Yeah, and that's very brand dependent then, too, I feel like. Right. And we're not doing brands here.

Obviously, we wear barefoot shoes in the gym. So we would put barefoot shoes in the S-tier. But I feel like, I don't know, it's not like. But then you start looking at having a heeled shoe. Right, right, right. You know, some people like chucks and some people like vans. It just gets very brand dependent.

Okay, so if we don't wanna mess anymore with shoes for the list, then what else are, what are we missing on the list? That is a good question. I mean, technically you could make the argument for gym apparel, you could almost start talking equipment of sorts But that is kind of a different thing too. Yeah, you could do like grip shirts and stuff like right you can talk Yeah, great shirt sleeves and the isn't say sleeves would be the next not really doing that

Yeah, and we kind of covered headwear. I guess we didn't do a beanie true true Flame beanies pretty classic in the gym That's true. Okay flame beanie. I think true. Flame beanie is pretty classic in the gym. That's true. OK, flame beanie. I think flame beanie is on the list. I think we need to add find a home for the for a beanie. I mean, flame beanie functional.

Yes. Totally stylish. Yes. Throwback to lifters of yesteryear. Yes. I don't know. Is this an A tier item? I don't really like wearing beanies in the gym because that is too hot and I don't know what to do with a sweaty beanie.

Okay, see, I most, a lot of this winter, I had to wear beanies because it's just too cold when the gym's 50. Right, you're cold, yeah, it's actually cold. It's just like a staple for me when it's cold out. Right, that's true. Like you're actually lifting but hold the gym I love some follow-up on this later in the episode if I had to pick between a gym being 50 degrees and a gym being 90 degrees I would pick the 50 degree gym all day every day

No questions asked. Yeah So, what are we at B tier on the beanie? I feel more like a B even though our B is. It's better than a baseball cap for sure. No, I think so too. I'm kinda, I feel like it's like in the headband territory though to me. I just, like the S and A feel like so much to live up to

and like a lot of these things just fall a little short to me. They do. That's exclusive territory up there. to live up to and they're like all these things just fall a little short to me they do that's Exclusive territory up there. So is there anything else that we missed then? Or is that I feel like we covered all the things you wear around your waist the lower body things We really really beat those into the ground I think we got the list pretty good here. Yeah Yeah, I think we got it pretty good. Okay, uh

So there we are. We got three and s only the crew link socks a league of their own in a tier though, aren't they? That's That's just how it is. You got the best of the best you got the crew link socks, and you got everything else Leave us a comment on the YouTube video What do you feel like you would move around from the list and what did we just not I want to hear what we didn't Rank that you really feel like we should have ranked in here though that we missed in Including in our list whatsoever, and then what did we get wrong? In your opinion? I mean, I know we didn't actually get anything

wrong. And you are the person that's wrong. But in your wrong list, what would you do differently in your completely wrong list, in comparison to what we did in our correct list? It's actually crazy how every time we manage to do one of these tier lists, we go through it, we go through like 20 somethings, and every time we get it like perfectly right. I mean, we just understand culture.

We understand lifting and culture. It's just crazy how good we are at it. I mean, it's really not. You do this as long as we have, it's just kind of obvious at a certain point. Yeah, it is funny when we do it though, like once you develop, like by the fourth one, you're like, well, it is funny when we do it though, like once you develop, uh, like by the fourth one, you're like, well, it does become somewhat obvious where

it goes in because you just start bouncing early ones. It's just like hitting the bumpers on the on the sides of it. And it's like, well, it kind of bumped itself into B. What would throw this make things a little more challenging is if we introduced a D tier that would make things a little trickier, but I still wouldn't change. like the F tier items are still F tier it all it would do actually is just it would take some separate and pull them down I think or maybe even it brings some B and to see because it probably actually that's what D tier would do it just pull everything down with it it's not raising

anything up it's just pulling things down yeah cuz nothing no matter how many tears you added below it I wouldn't be raising anything out of B up to that A, you know, like nothing's changing there. Yeah, it would just kind of reduce the logjam at B. Yeah, let us know what you would change with the list though. Do you insist on wearing a hat? Is hat an S tier for you?

What do you think the most polarizing item on this list is? I think people watching around at home. I think the hat for a lot of people would be the one. I could see the hat and I could see the cutoff t-shirt because people love cutoff t-shirts. That's an S tier for a lot of people. There's a group of guys, maybe not even slides,

but you know Crocs, we got the Lou Nutter's of the world. They love their Crocs in the gym. That's an S tier and for them. I don't like sandals in the gym. That's just not Where I feel comfortable right? Pretty solid list right there. Oh, yeah Real solid list okay. Oh do we want to hit a couple other things before we? Bring yeah, okay. I got a sack segment. Oh, do the sack segment. OK, I actually have someone talk about along those lines, too. OK.

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Revolution cook I don't really need to use it because my secret recipe is opening the container alright This is probably needs to be covered. Actually, I just thought about it. But hot button topic in the cottage cheese game. I use a fork to eat my cottage. Oh, 100% that Okay, you do too. Oh, yeah, you're gonna say you're a spoon guy. No, fork. I don't I already my least favorite part of the cottage cheese is the liquid. Exactly. I don't need more of the liquid. Like I'm not like, like oh man. I'm missing out on all the liquid. That's left over We haven't talked about this right? I don't know if we have actually

I don't think we have and like because I posted something the other day where I was you know Like it was like an Instagram real where it was like me Eating the cottage cheese and I just use a fork and a lot of people like oh fork you savage no and I'm like also, you know what the fork is all because I eat the cottage cheese directly out of the tub The fork is the perfect side scraper. It's like this perfect straight line You get that you get every single thing off of the side like you know, and I like The mild very moderate OCD and me likes to get like every bit out of it Yeah the mild, very moderate OCD in me likes to get like every bit out of there. Yeah. Well, and I'm 90% of the time when I eat 95% of the time when I eat, I'm eating with a fork.

And then the cottage cheese is usually the thing I eat last. I get done eating. I just grab a couple of dollops of cottage cheese and throw it on the plate. And I already have a fork. So that's what I'm working with, you know. Oh, just even I'm going to paint with broader strokes here and say the fork is just a better eating utensil with a spoon unless you are eating a straight up bowl of liquid. Soup or cereal breakfast, you know, like something that is a liquid.

Even ice cream is totally doable with a fork, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. This is not, I don't recommend this at home, but because of the nature of the way I eat my lunch and stuff and I don't want to get two utensils out, I eat my yogurt with a fork. OK, but you can't. You totally can because there's no like the spoon doesn't actually do like it does seem. I admit this seems very weird.

I do it because I just don't want to do it with two utensils, which really led to me this. The spoon doesn't actually do anything better for the yogurt. It's just dawning on me. I've never even thought of eating yogurt with a fork as a possibility. Because it's not a liquid. It's just like the cottage cheese.

The yogurt's already pretty thick too. Exactly, like I just, like I started doing that one. You tell me I've been getting the spoon dirty every morning for no reason? That's what, if you're already dirtying the fork what the hell works really well the only thing you got to watch out is for those What I said the fork is really good for the side container clean The spoon is better for the bottom container clean. Oh, yeah, and those Greek yogurt container some of them are so small

You're dealing with more bottom than sidewall kind of. So they're not quite as good for the bottom cleaning, but I got that kind of down to a science too. But outside of scraping the bottom of the Greek yogurt container, the spoon doesn't do anything better. Yeah, you got me rethinking everything right now. If it's not soup or, okay, tell me what, besides soup and cereal, maybe I'm missing some

other things but those would be the two things that the spoon is better or any what other liquids do you eat there's probably other things I'm just saying like there's the other probably gives other things the other things I grab a chili or I would use the only other things I grab a spoon for would be like a bowl of oatmeal I grab a spoon for, but I now know it's not necessary though. Like you can get that thick if you want. You can get that thick very easy.

That's a spoon meal to me. I guess that's a good one. The fork there. And then like if I'm going to eat a bowl of ice cream, I go for the spoon. Like that's a- Yeah. The fork would work. Well, yeah. Have you got like cake and a pie or whatever with your ice cream like yeah you don't get a

spoon doesn't work to go eat spaghetti or steak you know like sometimes my kids get particularly about thinking they want a spoon for macaroni or something like that I'm like no no no that's actually a good really good one in our what a fork for macaroni what's your preferred utensil? Fork, 100%. A fork, for sure. It does things that the spoon doesn't do. Like you can stab with the fork

and sometimes on macaroni you might need to stab. Oh yeah. And the spoon can never stab. No, it's got that precision control like we talked about, you know. Right, and also a spork is kind of a stupid utensil. Yeah, we're just splitting hairs here. That's maybe a grapefruit. You're trying to ride one and also a spork is kind of a stupid you We're just splitting hairs here. That's maybe a grapefruit. You try to ride one or two asses now Yeah, the spork is made like strictly for eating grapefruits and nobody does that so yeah, just throw the sporks away

Yeah, great fruits are just made to essence sparkling waters. It's only yes. Yes I just I just think the fork is just So if the fork is s tier and the spoon is like a c tier Utensil like I agree so few things that is actually best for I agree. That's spot-on Cottage cheese though fork all day. Yeah. Yeah, unless I already have a spoon for some reason But that to me is a no-brainer that the forks the better choice I admit the Greek yogurt the fork is a little psychotic, but I just do that It's just this is like

Almost like bachelor tendencies that I can't quite shake where I'm like no, I'm not dirtying an extra He's evolved to do this. He can't Like I don't I know that this works. I don't need to dirty an extra utensil Even though it's as simple as just setting in the dishwasher So that was the sack segment I technically have a sack it's too big to show I'll have some video updates on less I'll have some video updates on this but our old buddy Ashton at Freedom Fitness Co. He sent me a message probably, I don't know, a week or two ago, saying I have a package,

or I have a delivery coming your way and it is freight, so be on the lookout. I'm like, oh God, what could this be? What are you sending me freight for your approval? I have a garage with limited space here I can't be taking in massive pieces of equipment and he didn't give me any more details I kind of figured it out as the time was getting closer and I started getting notifications for their freight company, but What was it?

Monday afternoon Saturday afternoon Saturday morning something like that in the past couple days Freight man showed up, popped open, and there were three, this is kind of a sensitive subject for us, there was three rolls of rolled flooring, and it is cut to the exact specifications of my gym, and this rolled flooring, it is cut to the exact specifications of my gym and this rolled flooring. It is black rolled flooring with a red and kind of a,

kind of like a red and white fleck to it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Very cool, yeah. Black with red and white fleck is what it's got. I know it was red, I can't remember what the other color was. It looks very cool. It's three quarter inch.

Like I said, it matches up perfectly with my existing floor space. So I don't even really need to cut anything. I Can just sort of lay it down and be good to go which does mean I need to move an entire rack A lat pull down machine everything else off. So, I don't know maybe the jokes on me that this is gonna take a while to move everything but When this is actually in when this is down, it will look very, very cool. So what are you going to do with all your horse stall mats? I might just go right on top of them, I think. Oh, just double it up.

Because I'm only at 3 quarters of an inch right now. Right. And I never thought about that. You know, when I first started, people were telling me, oh, you're going to wreck your floor. You're going to wreck your floor only having 3 quarters of an inch. Well, I'm not slamming deadlifts down.

That's the only thing to worry about. But figured out an inch and a half is pretty well protected. I mean, that's basically a deadlift platform at that. Well, that's not so controversial than I my point in my eyes, because you're still maintaining the I know that's there's still there. The foundation that everything is built on the horse stall mat. So that's kind of the direction I was leaning towards is just going to right over the top of the horse stall mats.

Yeah, I never even asked. And he's like, yeah, I think you should be able to do that. That shouldn't be a big deal Yeah, I never even thought about no kind of just a part of me always then yeah So when are you gonna do the project? Ah, I don't know. I talked to him on the phone. He goes, oh Do you want double sided double stick tape to put he's like that's tip, you know, one of the ways we put it down Yeah, and I go. That's probably how I would do it to give it the cleanest look he goes I got some rolls here. I'll just send you some rolls of double stick tape So I'm still waiting for that to come in okay I don't know it might be a week or two or three or a month or something

But it'll happen at some point here. Did you build your mini rack from I've not done that yet. No, it's still sitting right here. It's My life has been pushed to the absolute limit for like the last three weeks here So I'm just I'm just literally trying to survive. I haven't had a whole lot of time Not an exaggeration right now, so Yeah, that has not gotten done yet, but it will happen here soon Yeah about flooring. I does look pretty sweet. Yeah, and I'll do I'll probably do a video on that when that yes when that actually comes to all the little time lapse of me putting that in and talking about it and Definitely got to get a time lapse video for Instagram for sure.

Definitely need that. And I'll put that song in the background brick by brick. You mean the one platform platform. What is that song? I don't know. I don't. I think I found that off something. And I had no idea what that was. I didn't know if that was a song I didn't understand. And that's not a song. No, I I only know that song from that video. Like, I think I found that and I just tie it to that song all the time or tie it to that. Yeah, I

should repost that video. Actually, it's like people love that video. How many years will it take for that to be on non-relevant? I don't know. That video still gets views though. It's one of our better performing videos. Yeah, I don't even, like I don't have the original. I feel like I only have that video

in like a fourth time ripped off of myself. Like I just like that. I don't natively have that video in like a fourth time ripped off of myself like I just like that I don't natively have that video on my phone. Oh, you know, I'm just always like just pulling it out I'm loading it off of something all the time. Yeah Okay other things here I Opened up YouTube the other day You know very end of the day just trying to wind down down, get my get my bearings about, get my senses to me. And it's late. I open up the YouTube app on my TV and YouTube knows YouTube knows I'm kind of a home gym tour guy. And right there,

I see it. I don't follow the animal supplement channel, but it was the animal supplement channel. Evan sent a Pawnee home gym tour. I've watched that. Oh, Evan, friend of the podcast. I've been such a good dude. I thought for sure. I'm like, well, I just want to see how he's doing this. And I'll it was I don't know.

It was like 15 minutes long or something. I thought I'll probably watch a minute or two of it. He's just good to listen to. I watched the whole damn thing and I did not plan on that at all. It was a good video. I mean, we should do a gym tour with him. That was my exact thought he's in the Northeast He had tons of stories about everything. It's the Donnie thing He knows exactly where he got it what he paid for how long he's had it like the back story a really positive fun

Oh, yeah, yeah, I loved his gym tour. It was a basement gym. It was great I recommend people go watch that but one of the things that stood out to me I did not know this was a thing. I don't if you caught this Tanner. He said it multiple times that Talking about pieces machines that he had the upholstery the padding on him Whether it was a blue pad or a purple pad or whatever it was he goes Yep, you just hit that with your vinyl spray paint and that's been covered and he's like this one Yep used to have blue pads. We hit that with the vinyl spray paint. He gets the Cybex leg press, our hack squat.

Yeah, this one had a purple pad on it. Again, black vinyl spray paint. And I'm like, I actually never thought of final spray paint as a thing. So then I started Googling it. And I'm like, yeah, this is a thing. Evan, it seems to be fine for him. Where this gets interesting is I would love to have,

like my lap pull down machine has blue pads. There's nothing wrong with them. Like functionally, they're great. They're perfect. I would, in a perfect world, have black ones. I asked an upholstery shop in town for a quote, and I got a quote of like $300 to redo the pads, and I'm like, that's what I paid for the whole machine.

I don't really want to spend that much money just to change the color of something here. But then I'm like, oh, but black vinyl spray paint, if that works, like that's the ticket right there. And it's so easy, like these pads are small. It's so easy to take them off, hit them with a few layers and go. Almost need to make a YouTube video,

or at least at the very least an Instagram video. Oh, that, I know. So my question is, I guess anyone listening, have you ever used vinyl spray paint? I feel like I'd be concerned, because that padding stuff always has a very, you know what, your hand can just glide across it. I feel like if you spray paint it,

it's gonna, I'm worried it's gonna be tacky. That's what, I don't know, but the other thing is, well, you say it would wear so easily too. That's what I would think, but if it's thing is well, it's like it would wear so easily to like But because it's a formula that's made specifically for vinyl, maybe it's okay I don't know and I'm like reading reviews on Amazon and like half people are like, oh, this is great I use it on my car seat and this stuff and it's been perfect and then I read other reviews and they go it made It hard and it sucks Well, I'm sure a lot of that comes down to reading the directions and applying properly, but yeah.

The con isn't the cost because you know, it's not going to be that expensive. The con is if you go and spray paint it, and it ruined the path off. And then you're like, oh, frick. Now I like, I wish I just had my stupid colored pad. Exactly. I would take blue over like a bad pad, but I'm just curious.

Has anyone, I know there's a lot of people at home gyms listening Has anyone ever done? Vinyl spray not like you took a can of spray paint to some vinyl pads like right Have you ever actually used the vinyl spray paint and I had any luck with it from what I can see Evans use it on like four pieces of equipment and it looks great on all of his so you should try it and if it works Really good. I'll do it at mass andinomics. Oh yeah, save you a ton of, I'll be the guinea pig here. I mean it wouldn't save you a ton of money,

like some of those pieces would just totally transform. Green and blue and if I'm like, oh if I make everything red, then it's pretty sweet. And it probably does depend a little bit on the, I mean there's varying levels of vinyl. 400 different materials. And also the quality, you know, some have little rips and frays and things like mine are like damn near

Perfect like it's amazing how well some of that holds up actually but So I'm just really curious if someone has done anything Put a comment in the YouTube video so I can look at it if anyone has any more insight into this I'll be interested to hear more follow-up from there'll be people listening that have follow-up on that just about guarantee it I'm sure Okay, I got a game here I think we hold off on that No We hold off on stuff until next week's episode. Yeah, let's we want to do a little training update. Oh, yeah, we should do that

What is it you squatted 475 just was that today as of the time that was today? How's for so what was that? What was that on? Are you in peaking? That's the first week of peak for me right now So I'm back on schedule. I skipped the D load because I've kind of been on a D load for a month now Hit 475 This was mentally this one was a hurdle because after that back tweak about a month ago where everything hurt I mean could even do a goblet squat without it hurting my back severely and it's just it's not muscle it's just a nerve thing and The only thing I've learned is it just takes time

There's like yeah walking and stuff like being active helps But like I can't just go in and squat like it only makes it worse and I live until there I mean it was like a three yearsyear self-discovery quest to figure that out. And now I just know I just got to lay low, do what I can for like a month or so, and it comes back around. In any other world, I would just be restarting Juggernaut right now.

I would not be doing this, you know? But this is where we're at. So like two weeks ago, I was kind of taking it by a plate. I had squatted up to like two plates. Like that was somewhat comfortable, but not great. The next week was 275, then it was like 315. And then from the 315 week, things were getting a lot better.

So then I jumped it to 405 and last week I did 405 for like a set of three. And I just was squatting so slow and cautious that it didn't feel great, but it wasn't bugging my back. It was just like my rhythm was not where I wanted it to be. This week I was feeling pretty good. Warms are feeling pretty good and juggernaut. It actually wanted me to go to 485 and, uh, my, my top squad of the

meat last year was four 75. So, um, right, right, right. It wanted me to do four 85 today. And I'm like, ah, okay. One that's my biggest squat now in like five years, let's go to 45. I have not been squatting really at all in the last month. Right. So I'm like, I'll just play it somewhat conservative because the jumps were 455 and 455 felt great. Then the 45, like, ah, it just scares me a little bit. And then no one

here either, like being alone, like really going after big numbers. I'm just, ah, it just scares me a little bit and then no one here either like being alone Like really going after big numbers. I'm just okay. I gotta play this smart. So in 475 It could have moved a little better. I actually would have preferred it to move a little better But given where I'm at just being somewhat detrained over the last month. I can live with that Like I know how did your back feel then for my back feels fine. Yeah, my back feels good So it's not a problem. Yep as of right now, it feels fine So yeah, that's sweet then I'd say that yeah that's good the other one was a Bench last week. I actually it was an rp10 week for bench and Well supposed to be an rp10 week for squat, but couldn't do that. I wasn't ready to go for rp10 for a set of like four and

But I was ready for bench has been going decent and again little detrain there cuz I had to I haven't had to ease up On bench as much but I did have to take it easy for a couple weeks there My bench was just feeling phenomenal like the oh hands before like My bench was just I don't know. What did I have it? I did a video I think the last video I had was like, I did 305, four, six. And the six rep felt just as easy as the first one.

I had it as like an RP, like seven and a half or eight. Right. You know, if you follow the number on that, by one rep max is getting projected at like, you know, 375 or, you know, up there. Like it was feeling so good. Best I've ever felt in my life. And then things did just have to slow down a little bit

and it did just feel like it took me out of a groove. It kind of killed some momentum there. The other day I was supposed to do 335 for a set of three and I'm still doing touch and go. I don't move to pause until like peaking, which maybe that's the bad, maybe that's the wrong way to do it. But 335, so this is where where okay. I end up getting two

I got two out of the three first two move pretty damn first one move great second one definitely slow down But some of fine in my head. This is when you know, you're screwed. You're like, can I get this third one? Yeah, I did not get the third one. But yeah In my defense again, we're not get stuck out like the midway point where I always get stuck It never gets stuck on my chair. I can always move it like the first three four inches off my chest in my defense again coming off of- So where do you get stuck at? Like the midway point where I always get stuck. It never gets stuck on my chest. I can always move it like the first three, four inches off my chest.

It's always like right there as we're getting stuck. But that was the day that it was 98 in the garage. Oh my God. That is, with the temperature swings we've had, it is so hard to lift when it's 98. It is brutal. It is terrible. I would take 50 degrees any day over 98. It just, it hits you out of nowhere. And it's very, very hard to get used to. And like when I'm hot, I just, I feel like I'm just like losing,

losing my strength by the minute when I'm that hot. It's almost as hot as the ODI. No, it's even hotter. Actually, and my mistake was I went up to the garage and. You know my garage is insulated and everything, but the door been opened a little bit earlier that day and it was 88 and I'm like, well can at least open the door, get more of a breeze in here. Yeah, within 20 minutes it had gone from 88 to 98.

And I'm like, yeah, that that was the wrong move. To that extra 10 degrees. Once you get over 90, that's when it really hits you, yeah, that was the wrong move to that extra 10 degrees. Once you get over 90, that's when it really hits you. Yeah, that's too hot. It is, it's just too, like you're just uncomfortable and you just feel tired and weak. It's not ideal. So I don't know, maybe in a, maybe,

I mean, actually a month ago, 335 for three, I would have said all day is there. But on the flip side, my best bench of the meet last year was like 330 or 332 or whatever the kilo break. So again, repping what my, you know, one rep max was last year. So things are on track.

Deadlift, that's a different story. That's to be seen. I don't know. That one was bugging my back more, just the positioning, just even getting into the position. Last week I did 385 for some very smooth, easy reps. So I'm still just ramping that one in.

Who knows? Yeah, you'll pretty much be building it right in. We'll just be building right up to the last minute. We'll see how that goes. I don't know. It's almost as much of a comfort. It's just like you're progressing into like the weights of being able to.

It's just a straight up linear progression into the meat. But deadlift, again, a month ago. I did five or five for a double last year at the meat My best poll is 475. So right. We know the strength is there. It's just is my back gonna cooperate to Will it be there on me? And the answer that is always yes, so I got nothing to worry about right? I guess I should say this is the this is a very unorthodox not recommended way to go to meet but Hey, we're we're gonna we're gonna give it a go here That's a good training update and there is for it's four weeks out

It's four weeks out actually the crazy part is the crazy part is as far as juggernaut goes Next week is the last heavy deadlift, right? Which is wild and then two weeks is the last heavy squat and bench. You might have to manipulate that a little The same thing cuz I'm not sure I might take my like You know, I have I haven't touched a deadlift over. Yeah 400 pounds in like six weeks So I might just have to keep ramp, but I haven't been doing any volume So like it shouldn't be wearing me down. So I should be no. Yeah, I think so You'll have to just keep ramping that up. I think so more comfortable just get just like a rep's able with it each week

Yeah, yeah my training update is far probably shorter and just more odd of things that I'm just because it's a My knee recovery still going pretty good. It has its ups and downs like the elevator business and some days feels better than other days. But overall the trajectory is in the right direction. It is just feels like it is taking for a long time. But I know someday I'll look back at it and be like, I don't remember, was my knee ever hurt?

It just feels like nothing. So I remind myself that often. I'm gonna, I'm just going to bounce between very odd training things. I'll be an ab rollouts continue to progress Mm-hmm. I now doing three sets of ten of those and I really don't even get sore. Yep Yeah, like that's I mean it's just like a month and a half ago I'm like I completely shredded myself for two weeks and now I'm like nope now I can just do these and You know the oddity of the abarola right and I like why the form to where it bugs me anymore is it right I Started trying Nordic curls because I always thought it's interesting I can just absolutely crush the glute ham raise like I can do. I've always been really good. I'm not

bragging about it. But like I've always been very comfortable with GHR, GHD movements. Yeah. And Nordic curls are so much harder. It is just like to me, I'm always like, Oh, that's a really similar movement pattern as similar movement. But Nordic curls specifically are just way harder. I 100% agree here I got I need to start I've never done them I've never done them before yeah and I was inspired after we went to Jose's gym you know he was getting rid of his GHR

because he's like oh it takes up too much room and I just do Nordic curls with a you know with a pad or a peg in the in the rack and I just do it on the floor and he's crazy strong and I Agree with you though, too. Is that GHR's I just feel like I could do 20 reps and I mean, yeah, they get hard but it's never like, yeah Oh, this is really taxing my posterior chain and I don't think I have a very strong posterior chain So like that's where I think a Nordic curl would probably expose some a major Nordic curl is so hard.

Like you actually have to be able to scale it because I don't think very few people are going to be able to just are you scaling with a band? Is that how you're doing it? Or actually just the I'm two times into it. And what I've just been doing so far is like, I'd call it almost like the push up method almost. Okay, when I'm like, I'm just doing this for a couple weeks is that because I don't want the ab roll-out experience off the beginning where I'm like, oh my god,

now I can't fucking move. And I haven't got that at all, so maybe that was an invalid concern to begin with. But that's all I've been doing. But yeah, I was probably gonna move. People do the thing with like a broomstick. And- I don't know if I've seen that one.

You almost like set the broom, you hold it like this this and then you can control yourself on this as your kind of guide Yeah, don't like that Yeah, the band thing is maybe what I'll go to eventually here try something like that Yeah, don't know exactly the way that you hope cuz you're doing on the Rhino. You said though. Yeah, I'm doing it Oh, yeah, see in the rack. You could just put the band up high but right right so I'll play with that a little bit Otherwise the rower I've been still doing rowing. I got my five. I got my 5k down to 1830 which is

Was so hard. So is this like I was so gassed is this technique improvements? Is this lung? I actually looked up quite a bit of the technique stuff and I'm like that's kind of feel I feel like what I'm doing by default Like oh, I you didn't have to wildly change anything to know there's a couple things to think about but at the end of the day as I'm like I'm reading it and then I go do it and I'm like Pretty sure that's what I'm doing. Anyways, like somewhat naturally by getting on this like so that I get no It's not really a technique improvement. It's more just like

It is just cardio getting getting my cardio, but and it's kind of cardio. It's also just like yeah, it's cardio But it's like getting a rhythm a little bit. I think it's funny people that do distance stuff I think you always think you're like, yeah, I get in the zone I'm gonna get in the zone and when I do the 5k Like even when it's gonna take me 18 some minutes There's never a there's never a second from when I start to I finish that you're in the zone Like it's hard if I'm gonna keep that pace which is a like for anyone that's road like to do that pace for that long I Like for anyone that's road like to do that pace for that long I Unless you're a fucking like an eye level rower. It's gonna be fairly hard

And there's not a moment in time where I ever feel like I'm like, yep I hit this it's like not finding the rovers high thirds in and I just hit this high I'm like no, I'm two-thirds in and I'm like, it's just getting worse. I feel like I'm gonna fucking die and if I slow down at all, I'll be off my pace. Okay, remind me again, are you keeping a pretty steady pace or are you having some intervals in here? No, I keep a steady pace, as steady as humanly possible basically.

I mean, does it drop off much or does it stay pretty consistent, like the pace you set in the beginning that's I can't I like get get on my pace and I can't let it like I'm like no You are just you're keeping it as flat as you can that is really hard Yeah Because you're just like the whole time you want it to drop off and actually like two times ago when I went It was the first time I didn't set a PR

Halfway in I was on PR pace, like to set a good PR and like I got to two thirds of the way and it's the first time I pushed myself so hard that I was like, I'm just I have to quit and by quit I didn't mean I didn't mean I stopped doing it like I still finished but I'm like, I have to quit the pace like I'm like, I'm it is so annoying because I'm like 15 minutes into it. You know, I'm like, 12 minutes, I'm like, I just can't I have to quit. And as soon as I'm done, I'm like, I wouldn't

have had to quit. Like I know, like I could you could have just like, I could just keep going. Like you don't have to quit. Like you did. But I'll get done and I'll just literally be drenched and just actually the killer thing I've learned about the roller because I do it out in my garage and it's been really hot also. And we talked about the headbands and the tier list, the sweat bands. I need a freaking sweat band because your hands are on the handle. And this last time I was sweating so much and I didn't have like lotion on my face. I don't know what it was. My eyes were on fire. I just was closing my eyes and just I'm like, I don't have to look at anything.

I guess I'll just keep my eyes closed because my eyes were burning. Like the desire to rub my eyes was so strong, but yet I'm like, I can't take like a second. I can't move my hands from this point. Like I'll kill like 10 seconds on my time if I do that. So okay. Do you think you'll do you see this? Is this rowing thing just sort of a fling for you right now?

Or do you? Yeah. Okay. No, it's not. I didn't know if like maybe you're like, Oh no, I actually do like this. I can see myself like sticking with it more consistently. I could see getting in and out of it. But you don't think going forward,

it won't be like, oh, I'm doing this at least once a week? No, I'm not going to be like, I have to row twice a week. I mean, as of right now, still yes. But I just know at a certain point, I'm good on not doing that. And you never really have back issues But I know I've thought of this that I know Chad said it is he said sometimes He's got to take it easy on the row works. It starts to agitate his back

Have you noticed like any extra fatigue on your back or is no I could see how it could if someone if you that's something You had but it since my my lower back basically has never bothered me my hips bother me, but not the rower doesn't Yeah, does not affect that at all my upper back gets lit up still like that's where you feel it the most as far as Like back well, no actually when I'm doing it well my legs are fucking is it It's like the the killer is the cuz when you go on hard enough for long enough, the killer is like the oxygen to using that much like, are using so much of your body that I'm like, my legs are just like, I feel like I'm not like getting the legs like re plan, you know, like the blood's not flowing or the oxygen's not. I'm not,

my cardio is bad, I guess. My cardio's not good enough. That becomes the limiting factor. It's not like my back or anything else. It is the cardio and how it affects my legs after a while where my legs just, I start to just get fried where I'm like, so when you're rowing well, it's a push off your legs, a little bit of,

like in that order, it's a push off through your legs, a little bit of a hinge in the back, and the last is just a little bit of that like in that order it's a push-up through your legs a little bit of a hinge in the back and The last is just a little bit of a row actually Yeah, like that's just the last little bit, but that last little bit you do it enough Like your upper back does so what I like in a good way though. What is the worst part though the lungs or the legs? It's like both tied together It's like both tied together. I don't know where it's like. I don't know. Like it hits at the same time and it's both things together. Where I'm just like, I don't know. That's what makes it really shitty honestly is just the way that it messes both of those up at

the same time. Yeah. But if I just back the pace off a little bit, it's hard to do because if I back the pace off a little bit, it hard to do because if I back the pace off a little bit it just seems so much easier then and just like But what I'm thinking about doing Which I said when I got to this point. I was just gonna quit doing it You did is like program it a little bit is where I'm just like, okay I'm not just going for PR every time easier day This is a hard day actually because the last time I went on to go hit a PR I sat down and I sat there for like five minutes

before I even started because I'm like, I know what's the start. The next 18 minutes are just hell. I'm not getting off. And I'm like, I knew I was going to do it, but I found myself just procrastinating the start. And then I'm like, okay, this isn't fun. Then now if I'm sitting here like,

not wanting to even start. So then I'm like, what if I programmed and not every time I'm just forcing myself to hit a new. Yeah, that makes more sense. Where you have a minute and a half of leeway on, you know, two minutes of leeway on certain days. So that's what I got. I have to do that in order if I wanna keep doing it

cause otherwise it's too daunting now where I'm like No, that's fucking that's brutal and I'm gonna die. I feel like death warmed over if I if I try this again. Yeah Okay, so I got the rowing any other I mean your bench is still going pretty good though, isn't it? My bench is going pretty good. I did miss Never I did this is did this in Watertown also where I missed a third rep really, really high. I did that at the gym the other day where I actually had one side of it in the rack and I swear to God I could not move my tricep.

That extra half an inch to and that's not been a problem. So I just got attacked that differently. I guess weird. Yeah, that's Yeah, like in that elita. Yes where you'd visibly look and be like, oh, I think it's locked out I was like no, I want to water town at first I almost thought you were joking because right you were like I was even like kind of laughing like cuz I'm like it was weird yeah, and Half the people would look at you and be like, I think his elbows are locked out and like me I've seen you bench where I'm like, oh no Tanner has a very hard lockout. So I'm like, no, I know he's not there But he's not doing it. What's going on right now?

so I did 355 for a triple is where my bench is at. And that was an RP 10 though. And it's going all right. I squatted 350. Yep. And that's going all right. It's all going okay.

Yeah. My knee's just annoying. It's actually like I did my 355 for a triple in my knee even after that. I'm like, ah, my knee just a little sore for just because pushing I was just understand why that would make it sores orking. You just, you know, you know, you've put in the torque on it and everything's going. It's actually just going as it should.

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