Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 487: 1 Year on MacroFactor: Is Tracking Macros Worth It?

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics. Was everyone we're here for episode 487 of the Masanomics podcast, the Lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas. My name is Tanner and my name is Tommy. Welcome back. I'll return listeners and heck welcome all first timers. We got any first timers listening sound off in the YouTube chat.

If you're a first time listener of the Mastinomics podcast, we'd love we'd love to hear it and see it. So let us know comment on YouTube. Are you a first time watcher, listener, enjoyer of the Mastronomics podcast? And how the heck did you find us at this point? How did you get here? What crazy path of life led you down this road to finding the Mastronomics podcast that episode 487? How many wrong choices did you make?

What downward spiral Bender you on right now That you just found the massonomics podcast. Oh this week is going to be a fun one. We're gonna talk about Tommy's nutrition s Escapades for the last year everyone's been to know. I'm finally gonna spill the beans. Maybe we'll talk a little post-meet training where we're headed there, what training outlook looks like. We're gonna talk some current events in the strength world.

Some world records were broken. We're gonna talk a little pop culture. But first, I want to let everyone know to head over to barefoot.store barefoot shoes are the shoes that Tommy and I both wear I wear barefoot shoes if I'm not wearing retro ugly to some people 90s basketball sneakers I am wearing barefoot shoes actually if I'm not wearing ugly to some people retro 90s basketball shoes or masononic slides, I am wearing

barefoot shoes of some sort. And that's a fact. Some of my personal favorites that I've been wearing are the Ursus two low tops, the Ursus one low top, the Ursus or no, I the yeah, the Ursus high top. That's what I wear in the gym all the time. It's what I've worn the same pair of Ursus high top, suede, black, barefoot gym shoes for, I don't even know how long, how long do you think we've had those?

Do you have that same pair of shoes? I can't even remember now. Okay, like those were, we both got those as our first pair. Yeah, probably three, four years. Yeah both got those as our first pair. Yeah, probably three four years Yeah, and for as minimal and light and little is there to it like mine certainly show signs of wear. Mm-hmm, but they're Still kick. Did you what you wear for the meat on?

Deadlift I wear my Ursus low tops now. Those are my preferred. Okay. I just like the low top so much So do you wear the high tops in the gym much anymore? I don't cuz I like the low tops so much. I just have a hard time not wearing the low tops But you didn't wear the earth sonomics though. Did you consider wearing busting out the earth sonomics? I did consider it but this still just feels like it's that collectors item do the fact that those will never exist again makes me Like if I showed up to the meat and somehow I snagged it and ripped it on like a weight tree or something Yeah, it would hurt me deep inside. I just want to protect those so that it's like a collector's item to me right now

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Thank you, Build Fast Formula. Thank you, Build Fast Formula. Thank you, Build Fast. Did you see, the record has fallen. The deadlift has fallen. Yeah, deadlift, Hafthor Julius Bjornsson. I did see it. Maybe you're Hafthor Bjornsson, six foot eight, 470 pounds at the top of Mount Everest.

It's lonely up there. The wolf up top. Everyone wants a piece. Yeah, five hundred and five kilograms. Thank you, Kaz, for the quick commentary. It's it's like five. My calves, what I've decided it's like you stick to like four or five catchphrases, bits. And you's like you stick to like four or five catchphrases bits

Yeah, and he just like you say those punchy then you take like up It's like noticeable you almost think he's right and then he comes right back Yeah, and then it's like and none of it has to make sense in succession No, like the next thing doesn't have to build off the prior like is completely go do it to do somewhere else And preferable if it does even actually because you're like, wait, what I'm not following. What does that have to do with the last thing you said? What were your thoughts on the lift? I got thoughts. I want to know your thoughts. Um, 505

kilograms. What was it in Germany? Is that where that was? It was quite the live stream, wasn't it? I caught the live stream, like, because I just happened to be looking at Discord on the time and, like, Big Tyler Thompson, some people were talking like, oh, it's coming up, it's coming up. And I'm like, oh, quick, someone send the link. And they posted it. I clicked on it. And he was, like, huffing and puffing about ready to go to the bar. Oh, it. So actually, I was with Jack and my wife and a whoever else at home and I'm like, Oh, they're he's going for the everyone everyone. When I explained the situation to everyone wanted to gather around the phone and watch it. He's gonna do where it was like, Oh, I want to see

this, you know, like, curious about it. It certainly moved. Well, I think some people were talking about I can't remember if they thought he had like a soft Soft hips and the lockout or something like that. I could kind of maybe see what they're saying about that I don't know that it would get me but I I sort of I can When I if I look at the right still images I can see what yeah people are talking about So I I mean people like to complain that it's basically that it's not done to a power lifting standard I'm like, well, it's not right lifting meat, right? So I give it a little more Lee. I was good with it

I didn't yeah, I think it I think it was a convincing lift actually to me that it's like The thing that surprised me is how fast his training went his lifts were showing towards the end I actually was surprised this what it was by no means it low But I thought it was good would have moved gonna go even easier honestly right how easy that's training looked That's weird how strong and how good he gets that when he goes to lift something that literally nobody else has ever done before And he gets it you're like hmm surprised. It wasn't faster But I kind of agreed actually like so easy to Monday morning quarterback and be like, hmm What I like to actually see it go a little easier than that

I will say that like I'm not a there's a I've noticed a fair amount of like like we were saying detractors like oh It's not a good left this and this and I'm like dude. I that's a good lift all day for me I've no complaints about the lift probably the thing that has surprised me the most about the whole thing is Damn do like the just about the lift, probably the thing that has surprised me the most about the whole thing is damn, do like the just, people come out of the woodwork that are lifting experts on these posts. Like you go into that and everyone is just an expert on the history of strong man versus power lifting

versus Eddie Hall versus Thor versus Colton doing, like just everyone is the expert on what is the pinnacle of human performance? And I'm like, it's just shocking how many people really think that they they know Just the ins and outs of all this. Yeah, I made a meme this week too I intentionally did this to play into the timing a little bit where yeah, I had to look and see what it was but it was a When the 110 pound kid says his 2.5 X body weight deadlift is the same as mine Yes, because it kind of plays perfectly and all the just I'm like This is I feel like the exact right time to post this and it did go over well, too

Because it got a lot of it didn't even click with me though. That's what that was based off of timing I mean that that was that was the thought on my head like when I saw the template I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna I feel dumb. Yeah putting the pieces together on that. Well, it's not like directly But I think it just picks up on the relevant Yeah, and I think that its success probably was in part due to that but it It you know that deadlift To play off that meme that deadlift was like a two and a half times body weight left for Thor, which is really funny to think about too.

And talk about the 110 pound kid that started deadlifting last year. Can he bet deadlift? Uh, what is two 20 plus another? Yeah. A little under 300 pounds. You know, can he do? 280 probably like is that Like can we all agree that that's not the same?

Like yeah, it's not no no like not even remotely like that's that's a but people don't get but that's the thing is Just people want to find it Basically if you don't like Thor or if you don't like the lift you just find because it's either shins No, Eddie did it first or Eddie's was more impressive or nope Colton is basically doing this in a powerlifting meet so like these ones don't even matter or no actually Benedict Magnuson basically just did it to like an actual powerlifting standard like 20 years ago. He did it with no straps t-shirt Mhp t-shirt, which is basically performance inancy But there's just all these people in there that have no my guy my guy that doesn't know who I am that I actually Doesn't then I don't know anything

My perspective is the correct one on this My thought on that is like the Eddie Thor thing Can we all agree that both are really impressive and like nobody else has hardly done either of them But also at the end of the day it is five kilograms more right like It's five kilograms more impressive right. I mean he wasn't the first to break 500 But he did more you know I just like at a certain point. I'm like he did more right like what's the Is there a debate left to be had at that? Doesn't seem like it. Yeah, I mean it took a long time, but it was five

You know Eddie never did five or five kilogram right like maybe he could have if he would have they weigh every kilo plate Maybe they were all off a little bit Maybe they weren't calibrated actually but my bigger point on the or my bigger takeaway is like Thor is from Iceland. Everything he puts out, his social media and everything, is he's speaking in English, you know, because English is like... The world's language. Well, I mean, in terms of marketing oneself,

he's smart enough to know that that's true. That you're doing yourself a favor speaking in English there, right? but I was curious the live stream it was obviously in Germany, but I'm almost surprised on the live stream. They didn't get like an English speaking Yeah, I call the live stream. It is interesting to think about how that Yeah, like I it's it's a weird judgment called judgment of them to be like well Why didn't you make this English for us?

You know you German speaking primary language people like I just bring in an English announcer just for this one part of it And we'll have two feeds here like that's not that right right right? That was just a thought I had back. I'd be interesting to know what somebody's saying about it. Yeah Yeah, that is I'm curious how they arrived at that that is And maybe it was just the meat he wanted to do was in Germany and that's just how it was to it. But, right, that's probably it. There's probably nothing else to do.

That's pretty loose here, but. Yeah, right, right. So what else about it? Anything else or is it, it's done? Like now is there, do we need to have, okay, so Eddie got the 500, which is a really big deal. Like then for the last, you know, eight years, it's been like, who's gonna break Eddie's

now does it matter as much anymore like You know more weight is more weight to my prior point more weight is more impressive But like do people care who's gonna do 510 well, but this is the thing okay, so cuz thwarted 501 remember that he did that 20 yeah, so all the controversy yeah, so it's been broken once and then now okay He sort of have chipped it like he sort of chipped it again with four more kilos Like the right it is cool But does some guy coming up whether it's Thor someone else showing up and like you said do five ten Does that just don't which is no more impressive no matter what but is it gonna get the same?

It felt like this got a lot of coverage is it gonna continue to get that level? That's what I just wonder. Like if someone's just kind of keep jumping at five-ish kilos at a time, or even one kilo, do people start to be like, eh, tell us when someone's really, really taking this, you know? Or is it also if it's not Thor?

You know, because it being Thor is a big deal. Just pick some random strong man from a different country No one's heard of that all the sudden right dead lifter do people really care there either I guess you're Garrett in the champ mentioned mentioned, you know, if it's Colton as a power lifter to do it in a powerlifting Me yeah, that's a way that would be a thing though. Yeah, that would be That would be a different thing to see though Like that would gain it gain a lot of attention If that's you know if he goes does 510 in a full powerlifting meet you know even just as a thousand in a powerlifting meet like that's gonna be yeah

Has he though like he has right? I well I don't think he successfully pulled a thousand has it right like wasn't that I? Don't know what he did this last time. It was a lot when he broke Dan Bell's record. So when he broke his total, let's see. There was a point in time when we would have known that for sure. Deadlift. Why he did a thousand three. I did a thousand thirty six. Well, okay, shows what I know. Okay, but if he does

over, you know, if he does 500 kilograms, that's gonna be yeah And he attempted that was the one he attempted 1102 right and basically did lock it out But just couldn't actually okay that is pretty insane though That does start to cast a shadow over it though Where if like this guy comes in and all of a sudden basically is doing 500 kilos in a powerlifting meet Where it sort of looks like like 275 You guys gonna do something crazier here if you're like using a suit and straps, and it's a one event only thing It's not the people that don't like

His lifting will say well that's sumo so that no I know I know I know even though you know even though nobody's ever Done it before like so it's obviously not easier But that'll be the that'll be the negative on knock on him of course is that it's sumo Yeah, it is such an outlier though like that. Yeah crazy part like that's just not even in the realm of what? It's really crazy Yeah So that's the 505 kilograms in other strength news event the horse tall Matt tiebreaker from the strongman lift hardly VC

bigger men class to settle who got second or third went viral on social media Good contents good content right of all the things, you know, it's got four million views right now Action fat content is just that's what people like Views right now action fat content is just it's what people like yeah, so that was one of the more viral videos We had as of late. Wow Toby and Alan battling out the horse stall Matt grip You know high breaker telling Alan get get involved in massonomics. You know you can Some might have a go place on here

Yeah, you can go super viral in a horse stall holding backcon does he know have you messaged him at all about? I know I haven't I should actually there's no like why would he ever think to look at that one again? You know he yeah Be quite the surprise do you like yeah? Just so you know this and then also you can The beauty of you know getting a lot of people seeing as you start to get people that are like start calling things out about, I don't know, your physique, your strength level, your gripping technique. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much everything. How boring you are.

I love those people like saying that they, that those who have small legs. I'm like, they both, Alan and Toby don't have small legs. Like they, again, they're not five, five. What do people think? Like that's what I'm five. What do people think? Like that's what I'm like.

What do people think that that I just those legs are any like Alan's wearing shorts down to his knees like you can't. Well, and Alan's just no idea. And try his big two. They're both very big people. They're both like, I don't know, is Toby like six, three or six, four, six, three, maybe two fifty five and Alan's or two sixty six one. 6'3 or 6'4, 6'3 maybe. And like 255 or something like that. Or 265. 6'1, also about 250-ish. Right.

Bigger than almost anyone leaving a comment on that video. Yeah. They're like, oh, small legs. I'm like, makes you feel better about the people that say I have small quads. I'm like, oh, you also say these guys have small legs. And I know they don't have small. Like I can't really judge myself at a certain point, but I know that these two

guys are both strong and don't have small legs. So, yeah, so dumb. Yes. But oddly just shows the. Complete oddity of what on social media pops off the that chooses that Video to get four just gotta keep shooting right and something hits you miss a hundred percent of the shots that you don't take That's right You didn't see the new happy Gilmore to I have not so no spoilers. No spoilers, but I did watch it.

So did you enjoy it? Yes, I did. I did enjoy it. OK. Like nothing shocking here to say it's not as good as the original. Oh, yeah. It never is, of course, especially

when it's remade 30 years later, you know, but It was it was funny and There's probably a bunch of people that haven't watched it. So I'm not gonna spoil anything, but there's so the Happy Gilmore one the storyline is actually pretty good and Like as far as an Adam Sandler movie goes for that time it's somewhat sensical as much as yes yes I mean there's a lot of it's not as idiotic Madison like right no right right right you drunk son of a rich guy let's just have you repeat grades like that's so stupid yes yes so but that

being said that movie can stand alone on its own. You know it needs no other thing Happy Gilmore to Absolutely cannot But it's all Propped up on the first one and the storyline is idiotic at best Probably like even even in comparison to happy Gilmore one the storyline is it yeah but there is so many cameos and Funny callbacks that I'm like none of that matters. It is worth all it is worth all the member berries that you get

in in the movie that I'm like all the cameos that people put in it and everyone is just the son of someone from the first movie Oh, it's like oh, you know here's the son of Everyone involved is the son of someone from the first movie is essentially the the way they cast but the the Star cameos Come right away, and they never cease Like it's just all throughout the movie, you're like, oh, and he's in the movie too. You know, like, so that part of it's pretty cool.

I guess when you're Adam Sandler and you've been in the business that long and you're into movies, you're into sports, you're into comedy, you kind of have a Rolodex that doesn't end. And you're also like kind of rebooting this historical nameplate that everyone would love to have their face as a part of it, too

So definitely worth watching Don't know things up. Yes, which that's also cool I'm like, yes Just put this on Netflix and I can watch it right there when it comes out and that's I'm all for it Doesn't hold up on its own. I think whatsoever, but that doesn't take away from it being funny in my book All right. I'm gonna I but that doesn't take away from it being funny in my book. All right I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can get this Get this one and the storyline is just

terrible I'm like come on like you could have done all of the same stuff But come up with a little better story right a little harder there. Yeah, I'm like Stupid but yeah, I guess maybe that's the point it's like over-the-top stupid, too So that's happy Gilmore I also had a movie movie watching experience yeah, just the other day here somehow I convinced my wife to go to the f1 movie and Oh, I'm not sure why she agreed to it probably because it was the first time I had said hey Let's go to a movie together with no kids in a very right very long

She's like, I don't care what it is. Yeah, our kids actually love going to the movies so we get to probably one movie a month with them and They're always pumped for it. But yeah, it'd been we're actually talking it might have been years since the last time we went to a movie together and we're actually talking it might have been years since the last time we went to a movie together and So we go to the f1 movie people that maybe they're not aware. I'm a big f1 fan and When I saw f1 movie my initial thought was yeah I'm not gonna watch this Brad Pitt in it like there's no way this is gonna be good Yeah, what got me though was I'm hearing all these oh, it's setting

It's like doing crazy good at the box office and I'm hearing some people that I like that also, on podcasts that also like F1 be like, yeah, it's actually not too bad, it's actually enjoyable. And I guess the guy, I can't remember if it's the director from Top Gun or some guy that had something to do with Top Gun also had something to do with this and I'm like, well, I don't need it to be

some crazy story thing as long as like it's cool F1 racing action right my car stuff I'm like, yeah, I just like that. Anyways, bring it on. Yeah, like give me give me the action here and Gotta say I was pretty let down by the whole thing. My wife really my wife My wife checked out fast like she was I could tell not having a good time and there was a lot of times in it I'm like, ah like it's kind of like when you're watching the sports movie and like This guy's like just breaking all of the rules

Like that's not how sports work and like that's how the whole plot revolves around this guy just breaking the rules Okay, I have to like ignore a lot like I'm not even saying like a hardcore f1 fan But even a pretty casual fan has to be like like Oh, that's not how any of this works, and that's just the whole plot of this movie is that like this guy It's just skirting the rules But never getting in trouble and is like somehow smarter than everyone else like these teams with hundreds of millions of dollars and all these crazy basically engineers and data scientists like this one guy can just outsmart everyone. I'm like, okay, so the action scenes are pretty good, but the rest of the movie really, we were walking out,

like my wife could not get out of there fast enough. I'm like, so best movie you've seen in a long time. She's like, she's like, okay, you didn't even think that was good, did you? And I'm like, yeah, it wasn't that good. And I'm not even saying that to be like, oh, hipstery cool. Just, yeah, the production is cool. The effects are cool.

The action was pretty good. But as far as like my list of seeing car movies, I'd break that pretty low as far as car movies go. So not as good as Fast and the Furious. Oh, I'd rather watch Fast and the Furious 1 all day over the F1 movie. What about what's the Nicolas Cage movie? Gone in 60 Seconds?

Haven't seen it yet. So you have not seen Gone in 60 Seconds? President of North Dakota messaged me this. He's like, this was seriously like two weeks ago, some scene from that. And he goes, best car movie ever, best car scene ever. And I'm like, like dude haven't seen it He's like, oh my god. Yeah, what's his Mustang? What's he called? What's the name for it?

If people listening will be is it the bullet Mustang in that one or what he calls? He's got a name for each. Yeah car. I haven't seen it. So I would know he's he's scared Eleanor. Yeah, thanks big Ben Eleanor is He's like has this this healthy fear of Eleanor yeah, thanks big Ben no Eleanor is He's like has this this healthy fear of Eleanor Because of his the way his path has gone, but yeah, the best is they listen to What is it? Right low rider oh For yeah low rider big Ben from chaos and then he does the

Okay, let's ride. Yeah, I Think that's actually the clip Dylan sent me I thought okay, cuz that is totally the scene where he like put like they listen to A certain part of the song and then he goes Okay, let's ride and then they're like off to go do their heist thing or whatever. I gotta watch it. I gotta do it Yeah, Jake calls me out It's shocking that I'm shocked that you have That is of an era like that one's not too old like that one's not I remember that movie coming out Was that like 99 maybe ish somewhere in there? Probably I would say so. And it's Nicolas Cage pop culture and it's about cars.

I know. I got to actually know when this came out. 2000, okay, I was off by a year. Yeah, and it might be one of Nicolas Cage's best movies. I feel like that is one that gets brought up a lot when they're talking about good movies with him. Yeah, that might be one of, I could actually watch that that. Do you think Dazen confuses a car movie? I don't think so Okay, so there's a lot of cars in it. There's a lot of cars. I mean a

Lot of movies have a lot of cars in them, but I just think it's a like a time capsule movie You know, it's just okay. It's just of that. Yeah Okay, and the cars are a part of that, you know The lifestyle are all the fastness I mean the original fast and the fierce movies are car movies at a certain point are they car? I haven't even so I can't say I haven't seen like any of the I don't know if I haven't seen like the last six Yes, I don't I mean they're just like all those movies that happen to have cars in them at that point Aren't they right right? But like the first one was a car. Oh 100% It's about like car culture and right, you know, like modding

culture and that tuner culture, like that whole thing and racing and like very much of that. I don't know. We got listeners from California. They're probably living that life in the early, you know, in the late, late 90s, early 2000s. Gone in 60 seconds is absolutely a car movie So do you do you have a favorite car movie actually I'll say this um you know what I liked cars when I was younger I'll put it you know fast and furious obviously was Impactful I think for a lot of people of our age And Gran Turismo games also got me like really into cars and stuff, and I always liked car racing video games But I will admit there was like probably a 10, 15 year

period where I just didn't really care about cars that much. And you know what, you know what kicks off the whole thing again for me, what did it all was I remember, you might remember I was in a bowling league Tanner back in back in the day. And two of the older gentlemen, they made a comment, they go, oh, have you seen that Ford versus Ferrari movie? God, that was a good movie.

Christian Bale, right? Yeah, and I'm like, you know what? I haven't watched a good car movie in a while, and I wasn't even, I was eavesdropping. I wasn't even in the part of the conversation, and like a week later, I watched them, like, dude, this is everything I love about car movies, like just like crazy, like the most like raw car,

and there's racing, and it's just like these guys doing their thing. And I thought that movie was so awesome. And that I probably watched that. It was probably like 2021, 2020, something like that. And ever since then, I've been like 100% back on cars now. Like that actually was, I can say that movie was a turning point for me.

I wondered if F1 would compare to Ford versus Ferrari. Oh God, not at all. I would watch Ford versus Ferrari so many times. F1, I'm good. The one time was it. I'm good there. Because Ford versus Ferrari isn't trying to be a sports movie, where F1 is trying

to be a sports movie. And I don't really like sports movies, because it's all the predictable cliches of what comes with a sports movie. And I mean, it's like, pick your tropes. Oh, the washed up team are the bad team that's not doing good. And they have to bring in the old washed up guy to try and save them. Yeah, that's the movie. Like that's like, and the old washed up guys got his old tricks. And he's like,

showing the new people like, Oh, this is how we do it. My day. It's like, I don't know how many sports movies use that same plotline. And this one just happens to be taking place with, you know, cars worth millions of dollars. So that's why I just I I think that's probably why it doesn't work for me. What about have you? This has probably been a topic, so I should know the answer,

but I'm guessing you haven't seen Days of Thunder. I haven't. No, that's why I also I got to watch that one, too. That's high days, days of thunder gone in 60 seconds. I also want to watch like there's like rush and Senna are different F1 movies so that I got a lot of car movies on my list So I mean those four movies right there that might take me years that might be my next four years of movies right there That's right. I go Days of thunder definitely better than f1. I wouldn't doubt that for a second

So that's car talk. Let's see, should we hear? Actually, I'm wondering, should we do supporting our supporting members? Oh, you got a crispy crack over the crack in the cold one over here. I got a room temp on Curtis. I left those fricking ramblers in your eyes. I told like you as you were walking out of the door, I said, hey, don't forget to grab those

I was gonna tell you okay Ramblers Lauren from Texas left us cases of Ramblers and we were at the gym I rode to the gym with Tanner on Sunday after the meet Tanner had the Ramblers in the back of his truck and My wife came to get me and while I'm walking I'm like alright. I got to go my wife's here and Tanner goes Yeah, don't forget those Ramblers. I'm like, oh yeah, yep, they're in the back of your car. I'll literally grab them. And I remember I walked up the stairs

and her car was parked right in front of the door. And my thought was, oh, I don't have to walk anywhere. And I got in and did not think about it one bit. And it was, I was halfway to Sioux Falls and remembered, yep, forgot the ramblers. Well, I reminded you so recently before you leaving that I just assumed they were gone and didn't even check when I left

No, it wasn't till like a couple days later that I'm like, ah, like Tommy did not actually from the time You're ready to be to the time. I forgot was less than 10 seconds. It was actually less than 10 seconds I was walking out the door and it's however long it takes you up to walk up like nine steps That's how long it took me to forget. Yeah, I Gotta point out Toby's in the chat because we were talking about the the horse stall mat video and they're talking about comments and someone there's a lot of like sexual comments getting in there.

And someone said they should have jerked each other off. And I copied and paste that I responded. We never said they didn't. I forgot. That's that's really good. Nobody ever said they did. God. OK, so, yeah, Big Lauren

brought us all kinds of ramblers because he knows that we're a rambling man. We'll say, Big Lauren, this is courtesy of Big Lauren and Big Darren. Yeah, you know Big Darren had a part in this. Hand delivered from Texas, so you know these are fresh. I mean, you don't know, you don't have one, but I know that they're fresh because I've got them all. Actually, speaking of Texas and beverages,

there's two things there I really like. One was in the video When Dylan was talking about oh Yes, you got Lauren's Lone Star here and he goes it's the light What a great host and he goes it's a host Well, I don't even know if it was an Instagram comment or what but someone goes geez Tanner's wearing a Shiner hat a Shiner Bach hat while drinking a Lone Star beer like just the most Texas you could ever be Yeah, but

You also said Lone Star it's the national beer of Texas and when you say Shiner's the international Lone Star, it's the National Bureau of Texas. And when you say Shiner's, the International Bureau of Texas, Shiner Bach Lone Star may be the National Bureau of Texas, but Shiner Bach has always been the International Bureau of Texas. And even Dylan had to tip his hat to that one. He was like, okay, just one up them.

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where they recapped the Lift Hard Livvy Easy Classic that went down last weekend in western northeast South Dakota. Last thing on Supporting Our Supporting Members, it will not be too much longer until we have a line in the sand. And that line in the sand is for the crew mailer that we're going to have coming out soon. Probably our best crew mailer that we've had yet. So A, get signed up if you're not already.

But B, we're going to really start to ramp this up and warn you, if your address has changed since the last time we mailed out a crew mailer, make sure to send us your new address So we have the right address So when those all go out they go to the right place and maybe instead of getting 50 return to me We could get like 25 return to me. That would be the goal. I can we get that Let's see how little low we can get that number by and all it takes is you to send me your updated address Should we do a certified training facility?

Yeah, I was actually going to make good on my promise of if someone from Maine or New Mexico signed up, we were going to do them first. And someone from New Mexico signed up. And I'm looking and they did not submit photos. So can't do a certified training facility if we ain't got photos of the circle C strength shop in New Mexico and then you will get on Also, did you see what else we got no South of the border

South of the equator we've got one signed up south of the equator our first one in Australia Oh No, no picture. So we can't do that one either Yeah, oh, yes, I did sell it. Oh no picture. So no picture so we can't do that one either Yeah, that is way south. Yeah, that is down there. Okay. Yeah Well, I'd love to talk about that one someday, too. So we have one certified training facility, but Our one in Hawaii moved out of Hawaii. So now So now it's forward one step back so now we're missing Hawaii and what state are we still miss? Oh, we got Maine. It's a

Vermont over my there you go. Yeah, there's not one it so we need Vermont and Hawaii I think Hot spot right back to 48 states. Yeah, Hawaii is a hard one to get to now. We got to get someone back from Hawaii Yeah, can you move back there? You know, they call it the lower 48 for a reason It's because of Hawaii and Vermont are not included So where are you gonna you know, I can't remember who I was talking to at the meet but they had said that We had had a large Midwest Bias and that we needed some more East Coast representation. Okay. So I don't know, is there something out East here that we could do?

I bet there's something there. There's something we could find. Let's see. I bet there's something we could find. Let's see, have you spotted anything intriguing? I'm just clicking, I think I have. Oh, wow, found something very cool here. What have we got? I don't know who this is. Actually, I like to say I don't know who this is

and then you'll tell me exactly who it is and I'll say, oh, that's who that is. Actually, I like to say I don't know who this is. And then you'll tell me exactly who it is and I'll say, Oh, yeah, that's who that is. I'm looking just to the just west of Wilmington. What state I'm actually in here. This map is so hard to tell Wilmington, Delaware, just just west of there. It's called Ang band. Where Brian's

Okay, so is it close to like DC? It's it's just it's between Philly and Baltimore. Oh Okay I'm getting there actually a lot of cool gyms in this area. Yeah, but this one I clicked on first Do you see it? Straight west of beer bellies cup. Oh, beer bellies cup. And okay, not big eds.

Not big eds. Ang band. Okay, Ang band. Got it. Okay. You ready for this? Yeah. So what state is this in? I want to write this is this says Delaware. Yeah, so what state is this in I want to write this is this says Delaware all right, Ang band in Delaware, okay Okay, first photo. I'm looking at here first photo not a ton It's just you just see a lot of Just bars on a wall. It's very clean and very organized

But you got black horse stall mats gray wall and it looks like an unfinished ceiling So it looks like it's in a basement, but banners are nicely placed They're all just black and white banners got a lot of bands on the wall. Yeah, it looks like a transformer bar You know just some various bars Looking very nice out that black and white custom Mastinomics banner exactly right there You got to know someone to get one of those so that's cool, to come the basement Brandon banner the strength co banner over there. Mm-hmm But we got a photo to

You get a little more of a peek and you can see that there are a lot of your stall mats along with More black and white banners and some cardio equipment. We got the Concept to what do they call their bike? Is that the one that dr. Tati waffles had yeah, actually yes he did Yeah, what the hell that thing's called, but he has the concept to come up to bike That's actually what it is. I Got the bike the rower and there's something else there

Okay, and I can see some rogue plates on a plate tree again still not seen a ton yet But then we go to photo three you're getting a little more of a view of the place here We got a bench actually that's the other side of it shows a little more photo for Now you can see we got the power rack I mean a ton of room got the power rack back there, but I think he's got the bow flex adjustable dumbbells also Yeah, and this must be like a walkout basement because it looks like there's a sliding door You can see the corner letting some light in there and then Picture number five you have a much better view of this whole thing and I actually can't tell

Is that what's the that's the bare finish on a rack right where it's yeah Well, it could be yeah is it? Because it's not stained. It's like the clear grind isn't it yeah, and I think it is Tell if this is a rep or a rogue rack. I'm just not the best at picking out instantly What it is, but it's that it's that clear grind on the whole rack He's got drink spotters on it, which is good to see and I think he has I think that's like a rep adjustable bench in there What on the center nameplate was that a pulley system? That's up above that or something. Yeah there

Yeah, he's got some type of plate loaded Pull down pulley system. You can see going through the back of the rack and then comes up over the top there. But really, I mean it's just like the entire basement. Very clean. Yeah, it's just the entire basement very clean, very well put together. Very aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, and I mean it almost, like depending on the photo, It almost looks like a commercial gym because there's just so much room He actually has you know, a lot of people don't have the luxury of clear space

He actually does have some floor space available here And he's got like six horse stall mats and are you know altogether that are completely empty, right? And they're just taped to perfection too. So it makes it look really big, seen clear, clear horse stall mats. But I love the aesthetic of this gym and, uh, seeing a gym that's just not like overly packed. It is kind of cool to just see a gym with some space in it. Well, we see the space, but what I want to see is, do you think you could get strong in Angban gym? Oh hell yeah. Getting hella strong in the Angban gym.

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Thanks Juggernaut. Are we going to get into our title topic of this week's episode? I think it's time. Do you need a little title topic music to get you in the mood? The mood. All right. All right. It's go time. Yeah, that's it. OK.

No turning back now. We heard disturbed. This is a word jumping right into this. Just we're not wasting any time. We're getting right into a tanner. Yeah, we're not wasting any time, we're getting right into it Tanner. We're not wasting any time other than the 50 minutes that we've wasted so far. But besides that we're jumping right into it. We're not wasting any more time. No more time.

So I have now been running Macro Factor, actually what is the title topic here? The title topic is one year of tracking macros. And how have I been tracking macros? I've been tracking my macros with MacroFactor. If any of this sounds interesting to you, you can sign up and get a extended free trial with code maconomics at MacroFactor. That's our plug right there.

And a lot of people, a lot of success, if they even tell us about yours, just a lot of people that use it and are like, oh yeah, this is legit. We've had some guys Brad the pad specifically, dude I don't even recognize that guy anyway anymore and from the first time I met him and he dropped a ton of weight and he Macrofactor was the tool that he used to help him get there. Yep But okay here. I'll give you that. I'll give you the rundown on one year of tracking macros. So it's No a year now

Ago we had an episode of me talking about how I was just getting into this it had been years and years Since I had tracked any food and even when I tracked food, I wasn't actually weighing it out So kind of wasn't really tracking it if you weren't weighing it is a sort of a guesstimate But that was my introduction to actually taking nutrition somewhat seriously was the first time that I had tried that. This past time around, got done with the meat, and I'm like, you know what? I know nutrition is this giant black hole of just an area that I'm not putting any real effort into.

And so let's put some effort in here. And when I go in and look, just going to give you some high-level numbers here, And when I go in and look, just going to give you some high level numbers here. There's a ton in the app. I will admit that I don't play around with all the stuff because there's so much in here. It really is. You can, it's up to you to decide how hardcore you

want to get in the app. I usually just track my food. I do a lot of copy pasting. I try to use the app pretty minimally because I have enough things going on. And it's great Because it lets you do that, but if you really want to dig into the stuff There's there's things in there also, but when I go into my weigh-ins

My average let's find it really quick here my weight trend the first from what I can see Maybe maybe I need to be able to zoom in a little more But it looks like my first weigh-in that I ever recorded was oh come on was Slip my finger up the screen July 27th I weighed in at 213.3 pounds it's almost exactly. Oh, it's a year in two days

Okay, and as of today, so that's two thirteen point three my first ever weigh-in It's almost exactly a year. Oh, it's a year and two days. Yeah. Okay. And as of today, so that's 213.3, my first ever weigh-in. Today, my weigh-in was 219.8. So would have made weight if we did the meat this week. Yeah. Yeah. Drop those two pounds that I was over. Right.

Right. Because what did you weigh in at? Like 222. Yeah. So in that time, gained about and actually that this was a lighter weight I'm usually weighing 222 223 somewhere in there But I actually hadn't been cracking my macros for the past week after the meeting my I'll take a little break and my natural Tendency if I'm not tracking macros is to not eat enough and I was losing weight already in that first week

So that is one of the first things that MacroFactor is helpful for me is not a huge appetite guy. And it keeps me on track. And it keeps me at a level that's more ideal for trying to gain a little strength, gain a little muscle. So I thought that was interesting. You can also go back in and see.

And there might be a thing that actually tells you the number. But I can get a graph of all of the weigh-ins that I've done through 2025 and 2024 it puts a dot on the day You know obviously for like on the road for massonomics or something There's not a scale in the room so you know I didn't get those but as long as I'm at home I weigh myself every morning that was something that I'm usually pretty good at but before macro factor there was about a year or two there where I hadn't been doing the best at

It so I didn't even know what I weighed for huge stretches So I'm way more consistent there and And then food logging. If you go back and look, I'll try to hold this up on the screen. Actually, I'll do this one for the you can see all the blue dots for 2024. That was basically me not missing a day and then 2025. I started to miss a few more. I'll show those to you there, Tanner. You can see 2024 is like solid 2025 got a little more spotty But at that point and that's just showing that was a day that I missed tracking food on and What really to me what that was is 2025 like I've kind of now for the most part eat a lot of the same stuff I know what's going on So there'd be days like if I'm gone or actually even there's more than likely it was because we're on a road trip for Masanomics. We got enough other crap to worry about. I'm not concerned about trying to track my food

and do a fast job of it. So that's where I've given myself a little more leeway now is over time. I sort of know where I am and missing a day or two here doesn't bug me as much. But what else do I got? I got a bunch of notes here. We'll see Okay, I'll just talk about how my habits have changed with with food and

Tracking and all that the biggest one and I have talked about some of these before was that Like I was just saying My natural tendency is to actually not eat enough so tendencies to actually not eat enough. So MacroFactor helps me make sure that I'm actually getting enough calories in because otherwise I seem to like just give it enough time and I'll get down to right around 200 ish pounds and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you're six one and try to get stronger, 200 is kind of on the leaner side. You know, it's just not as easy to get strong. And then, uh, I do know for a fact though that my diet without

Macro Factor tends to be way higher on fat and then not enough protein and definitely not enough carbs. So Macro Factor really helps me bring that fat down and pump that protein and carb number up to a spot where I need to be. And that's another one that's changed. When I first started MacroFactor, I think, you know, because it doesn't know what your caloric level, how many you're burning. Like it tries to make an educated guess and it fine tunes over time. But I think when I first started, if I go back last year,

I want to say it had me like 31 or 3,200 calories. It was something right around there. And over time, what's that? That number has actually slowly gone down a little bit. And so right now I'm at about 2,700 ish calories has me and there's a couple to maintain. Yeah for for maintenance. Yep is right in that area and Probably makes sense outside of lifting, you know, I'm sitting at a computer all day. I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle you know, I got little kids and stuff and I'm chasing them around. But it's not unusual where if my wife works, like I try to get

some good walks in with the dog to get some steps. But like if my walk, my wife works nights, which she does a lot. Once I get the kids to bed, I can't leave the house and go on these long walks and I don't have any cardio things. So like steps kind of just get, that's one area that would be nice to have an option there So but I don't have that right now so like there's days where I might only get 4,000 steps in but there's also days Where if I have it my way I can get closer to nine or ten thousand But one thing I'll say one mistake that I learned At one point tracking my macros at rice

putting rice in Somehow I don't know how I did it if I was just typing it one time because I wouldn't have gotten this. Or maybe I just scanned the barcode and didn't read it, but it was raw uncooked rice. And I was saying like, oh, I ate six ounces, but it wasn't six ounces of cooked rice.

It was six ounces of raw uncooked rice, which is a shit ton of rice actually. And so for a while, I know for a fact, I don't know how long I was telling it the wrong thing, but there was definitely a few months where I'm like telling it, I'm eating a shit ton of rice. It's like, damn, you're eating this many calories and you're and you're like just maintaining weight. Like we can keep pumping that number up. And then finally, I remember when I caught that and like, Whoa, like

my calorie numbers are way different all of a sudden and I feel like Macrofactor was like wait a minute you're eating like I had to start to your carbs are like a third of what they used to be what's going on here like we need to start jumping your calories down so there was definitely like this recalibration time of it not knowing you know it thinking that there's some big changes that was on my end I think it probably took it a week or two because you do these weekly check-ins. It probably took it a week or two to get that figured out. Maybe even three, but again, it's always changing.

It's always doing the check-ins. And so if something seems off, just give it another week and it's gonna make slow adjustments to get you there. From a performance standpoint, this is probably actually my favorite part of looking back on this last year is, I'll say two things used to happen to me in the gym fairly commonly. And that was getting very lightheaded and feeling like crap by the end of my workout. Like, yeah, feeling I mean, between squat sets, just be like, I would get done with the set and be like, I don't know, am I just gonna pass out?

I feel so lightheaded, like dizzy. And then let's say you get squats done and move on to an accessory or two, being so tired and just out of energy. I remember telling my wife, I just feel like crap. And maybe part of it was also, you know, went through some stretches there where I had two kids

under two in the house. Right. Or under three, I should say, two kids under three. So it was also not getting good sleep either. And that, I think, was probably a part of it. But I really do think that the diet, my diet was just not tuned optimally. You know, like it was not uncommon where there was days

where, before I had my home gym, when I was going to the commercial gym in town, like I might wake up. I'm like, God, I did not feel like making breakfast today. And I might honestly just have two pieces of peanut butter toast and a yogurt. That was my breakfast. And then I would go to the gym at noon and it's like, well, why do you feel terrible? It's cause you ate in the last like three hundred and fifteen hours, you've ate almost nothing.

Right. And now my breakfast is way different I also workout later in the day so I got two good meals in I've had a lot of carbs in my system By the time I'm getting to work out and yeah, I just I don't really get that feeling anymore I I mean there's workouts where I'm starting to get very tired at the end But I'm like I'm also putting in work like to deserved well deserved right right and it's never a it's never a dizzy lightheadedness of oh is there something wrong with me medically like that's gone and I really do think that that's mostly can be

chalked up to just having better fuel in the system yeah so that that's probably my favorite part I do think too I'm Wayne so the other thing with with macros and just your nutrition is in a perfect world, your body composition changes a little bit. And I do think when I look back at, I also don't ever take like photos of me with my shirt off. So like progress, I don't, I don't do that. Maybe I should, but I don't do that. But I do know the last time, you know, I was making a run at moving

heavier weights in 2018, 2019, and it was kind of just, no, we just eat everything. It's just bulk, eat everything. And yeah, you're getting the calories, you're getting everything, but it's also you're getting a lot of fat. It was not good, clean calories at all. So I do think my body composition,

looking at equal weights from 2018 to 2025, I think my body composition looking at equal weights from 2018 to 2025. I think my body composition is quite a bit better now. I by no means have a six pack. I'm not ripped or anything, but I do just feel like thing. I just do just like I'm in better shape visually than I was at that time. Yeah. Could you ever see like after using it for a year now, Like is it ever like, I just don't really need it anymore Uh, I actually think I could yeah, I could for the most part go without it now

but what I like though is so after the meat like this is the time to just Not gonna really worry about training I went to the gym and just kind of like move weights around for two days after that are two days during the week after the Meat same thing I'm like weights around for two days after, or two days during the week after the meat. Same thing. I'm like, I'm just going to take a break from meat tracking. Cause I was really trying to be like super dialed in in the last month up to the meat, like as perfect as I could. And so I give myself that break and not having it at all.

I'm like, well, breakfast is kind of 90% the same. So there's not really even anything to change there. And then my meals throughout the day, what I caught myself was, ah, I don't think I'm getting enough food. And actually, I mean, that was the case. Like I lost almost three pounds that week. And so yeah, there could be a time, but I have a hard time seeing that time coming

and anytime soon while I'm still trying to take the gym somewhat seriously because I now know that I do personally feel like that nutrition aspect plays a pretty big role for me. And even like, and it's not even like a bad thing of like, it's limiting me. Like usually it's like, oh, it's the end of the day. I actually can eat a little more. So that's typically what the signals that new macro factor are giving me.

Hey, you actually have like 30 grams of protein left and I might have a protein shake or a bar or oh, you have some protein, fat and carbs left. I'll make a peanut butter sandwich before I go to bed. That's the more common scenario than, oh God, it's dinner time. I have to really, I really have to pinch back on dinner time so I don't go over my calories.

That's never the scenario for me. I need all the calories I can get here. That's kind of my experience with it. Like you were saying, I have a hard time seeing myself not using it. I actually, pretty sure, well actually no, we got two free weeks, so it's not gonna bill, it probably won't bill me now for at least

another week or two here But right when that comes in you're gonna think anyone considering it You just sign up for a year a year ends up being like $70 if you take it by the month, it's like $15 a month But if you use our discount code you do get a few weeks for yeah I get I think two weeks for free versus five days or a week In two weeks is a really good time for you to figure out if this is going to fit your lifestyle

or if it's something you actually want to do. But yeah, we wouldn't vouch for this app. Well, yeah, we do have an affiliate code. So that is like a way that they pay us. But I wouldn't be using this app a year later. And we wouldn't be doing a year later checking on MacroFactor if I didn't genuinely enjoy using the app and think it was helpful for my training. So I can confidently say

If you're gonna spend, you know your 70 bucks out of your membership which ends up being what for? $5 a month six dollars a month right pretty damn cheap in the scheme of things. I think it's well worth it Are there better macro apps or food tracking apps out there? Maybe. Probably. There's probably someone that listens to this and like hates macro factor and maybe something else works better for your brain. Right. Yeah, it might be. I think it's pretty legit, though. I was gonna say, if you haven't done any of these, I think it's a really good place to start. It's not filled with dumb ads and like crappy, like sales pitches, or it's not trying

to push you anywhere. The other it's you tell the app what you want to do, and it just gives you the data. it's not trying to push you anywhere the other it's you tell the app what you want to do and it just gives you the data. It's not trying to make you feel guilty or trying to make you do anything you don't want to do. It's just kind of like the scale. It just presents numbers and you interpret those how you want to. And they do, I mean they are continually developing it

and one of the other features we talked about this probably a few months ago is if you are on the road and you got something going on, they've added this AI tracker. It's definitely not gonna be super accurate because it's just taking a picture, but it gives you an idea. So if you have a dish in front of you,

you can take a picture of that dish and it's gonna run it through their AI software to determine what it thinks that dish is and spit out the macros and calories and everything for that. And so that's if, if you are someone that's on the go on the move, that might be something that could just help you keep your diet and check a little more. So like there are different components of this tool that depending on your lifestyle and who you are might be more helpful to some than others.

And if you take a picture using that AI tracker piece of macro factor, if you take a picture of the Mastronomics horse stall mat coaster, it will it knows that this is it will pop up as a Mastronomics horse stall mat coaster with like zero calories. So for whatever freaking reason it knows what As the mass dynamics horse stall mat coaster which someone sent me that and I'm like that's not oh we thought that was a meme We thought it was a joke and sent it and no. Yeah, it really was it was a thing. It was real So it's been one year of you using MacroFactor. It's also been one year of me thinking about

getting on MacroFactor. It's my one year anniversary. One year anniversary of considering it. But I will say even prior, this episode's maybe helping push me, but even prior to this, coming off of the meet, I have been feeling very motivated for my training and it was the first time I thought again Maybe now would be the time that I get on, you know

I'm really really motivated on my training then I get on get on start using macro factor to piece Piece that along with it as long as I'm really That that is the other nice thing about beats is it does create these just hard lines in the sand where you know Like you know things can't change up into this. And then once it's done, you know, everything can change because nothing matters right now. And so like, it's a great time to experiment and switch things up that true with training. And that's how I've been approaching my training too, because I just restarted a juggernaut block. I'm not doing a bridge block just because of my knee. Some of the bridge block stuff is really hard

It is there's a lot of haven't done a bridge block and there's some heavy like a lot of reps at like pretty heavy weights and it's just like Just wasn't really wanting to do that on some of my squatting stuff just yet So I went straight to a hypertrophy block, but I am using it as a chance to do Completely I mean did we talk about this already? yet. So I went straight to a hypertrophy block, but I am using it as a chance to do completely I mean, did we talk about this already? Well, I think we mentioned that we're just gonna switch things up totally. Yeah, yeah. Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about doing something different after a

meet? You've seen this switching up your training. So I'm using juggernaut hypertrophy block, but I am doing all very quad focused squatting. So I'm kind of attacking my knee. When I say quad focus, also knee focused at the same point in time. So my main squat movement is front squat, quite in time, so my main squat movement is front squat, front pause squat,

is my main squat movement. My second squat movement is the pendulum squat, because, well hey, I just wanna use the pendulum squat, obviously, I wanna program with that fricking thing because it's kinda cool to use, so front pause squat, also partly influenced by Dan Green in his talk there that I was kind of so I've been working into front pause squats and the pendulum squat and then on the deadlift I'm still exploring what my options are there actually your brother kind of because I'm like, God, you know, I want you know, I like deficit deadlifts, but I also want to do it.

It's still just too much like the regular deadlift. And here was my comment on squat. There's so many variations that are. There's a lot that get it way different than just squatting. Yeah, it's get way different, like great variations that get way different. But I'm like, if I go. Pause deadlifts or deficit deadlifts or elevated deadlifts or halting deadlifts

I'm just kind of like it's all still a deadlift of you know I know just changing the speed at which you do it right so I think actually My second one's probably going to be stiff legged dumbbell, you know, because I like that one and haven't done it, or RDLs with dumbbells, but I might actually switch that to Smith Machine. Okay, yep. Or I may even.

So what was Ryan pushing you for though? What were you? Well, he's been liking the Smith Machine for deadlifts. He said like RDLs on the Smith Machine. He said it's really good, but he's also been using the All the rhino with the bar. I saw I know they doing that and I thought that that I'm not sure I'm ready for that But I'm even considering making my primary one Stiff like an RDL deadlift like is my primary

So it sounds like he is just like pushing RDLs more though is what he is And I just do like the because I want to get away from the prime, you know, I want to get farther away from the primary movements for a while just to for a different stimulus essentially, and like to give certain things, you know, just a time and you know, also just be as a something different like just to try something different, basically. Yeah, novelty, it adds to the excitement. So I do think I might make RDLs even my

primary lift instead of deficits, like I would a lot of times at this point, in the training, I'd move to deficit, deficits like in hypertrophy, because it's a little bit lighter, a little more reps, but I'm like, I kind of want to do something different. So I might go more RDL. So I might even do Smith machine RDLs. Okay, which would be a which would be a very odd choice for me. Do you have to get on blocks for that Smith machine? Or you have

to stay? Yeah, stand on a box in order to get down deep enough. Then bench, I'd have to Oh, actually bench inclined Smith machine is One of my main bench movements, which I did that this week and actually programming it as the primary lift I'm like I got done. I'm like damn that was hard like when you're not just like doing it as like a third a tertiary Movement when you're really doing I'm like, okay, that was legit. I liked that but then really doing I'm like, okay, that was legit. I liked that. But then thinking about using the tsunami bar on my second thing, doing like close, I don't know, I'm not sure yet what the

application is for the tsunami bar. Quite for the time being, I'm just doing close grip pause, bench, but I may want to move that away to something more, for at least the first couple of hypertrophies. It's got that going for it. Yeah, yeah. I'm just not positive, like the best implementation of that into daily training yet. Like what the...

I was always an earthquake bar fan and a band bell bar fan. So I also wanted to manipulate it it maybe to incorporate more standing overhead press too because it's very, I like the overhead press, but Juggernaut doesn't by default get there at least in the program, at least based on my weaknesses, I don't get there by default. So I usually have to- Oh, like ever? Like it doesn't ever program over? No.

Oh, okay. I usually, once I get into my first hypertrophy blocks. I usually have some some overhead. Okay, so I may incorporate that more But that's my general focus is particularly in the squat is You know going away from the regular hip more hip dominant also the quote As true is true to what people say about me. My weakness would be my quads in the squat. So it makes sense for me to target that more specifically for a longer period of time below them. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's, I think that's all really good. I'm, I've just set up my first. So I just started set up the bridge block and had my first workout on Monday. And it kind of was actually surprised. So I'm started set up the bridge block and had my first workout on Monday. And it kind of actually surprised how Simon a bridge block how much it was just an SPD day. But it started with pause squats. And it's you know, every 90 seconds, which, dude, they felt great. I mean, they've, they were

smoking me it was the weight was like 235. It wasn't heavy. Yeah, we're talking sets of five with 90 second break in a 90 degree garage. I'm like, oh god, I can't stop sweating. What's going on right here? But actually just being back in that pause position did feel really good. It's been a long time since I did some of those.

And then they had me move into comp bench after that. So my god, it's not very different. So I might change some of these up more. And then after that, it wanted me to move to pause deadlifts. And Beck didn't like that one a ton. I actually had to bail out of that. Yeah, that's a tricky one on the back, actually. Because then I'm like, ah, and then I

had this flashback of, oh, yes, I kind of made this unofficial rule for myself a long time ago of SBD days should be very limited on me. Because while I have all the gusto and excitement for it At a certain point something says no here so I had to actually take that one back because it was the things actually weren't going good there and then Then it moved into just kind of accessory, you know lap pull down face pulls dumbbell curls it wanted a sandbag carry, but I actually was limited on time on that one. So I had to dip on the sandbag

carry, but, uh, just the one moving to higher rep stuff, you know, sets of the accessories being like sets of 15. Yeah. And I mean, you could do more, but I was just doing sets of 15. And then the other ones being on timers, you know, it was like an hour workout and it was, it was intense, man. I was, I was feeling it. Yeah. That the bridge block is no joke for anyone. Do you think you're like, oh, yeah, this will be fun I mean it is cool. It's it's it's not hard in the way in the way that you know when you're prepping for a meet

It's ah every rep has to be perfect here. And yeah focus has to be a hundred percent Like yeah when I'm doing pause squats at 200 and some pounds like I don't really need to be focused that hard But you get really freaking tired doing it You know yeah, I think the longer someone lifts. I think it's interesting You said yeah my rule of thumb is I really need to be careful on the SBD days like those aren't great for me I think the longer you've lifted and Trained seriously and probably use programming people, you figure out these own rules for yourself where like my big thing, deadlift is maybe my favorite lift

and at times it's what I'm the best at, but it's what I have to be the most careful about with in training at times too. In my, when I've come to rules of thumb on the deadlift, even with juggernaut, I manipulate it this way where if I'm doing a, especially if it's like a comp deadlift, I don't do over sets of over six reps. And I don't do more than three sets. Because when I do like, the fourth and fifth set, I can do the weight just fine. I just start to notice I'm like, these reps don't feel beneficial to me. They feel like I am pushing myself closer to injury than to strength gain.

Where I'm like, I just have to do enough to stay proficient at it, and then utilize some other things to gain strength. I don't need to do 30 reps of the comp deadlift. And it actually goes back to what always worked for me on jackals, which was about 10 reps a week. Yeah, just the comp deadlift. Max weights are the highest weight.

Right. And then you make up the volume by the variations that you do that, you know, maybe don't stress the body, the whole body quite as much. Yeah. And that is a great point, and it's one of those things where every once in a while, you just, you think, maybe I am past that. Maybe somehow my physiology, my anatomy has changed, and sometimes it has, but more likely than not, you get that reminder of like, no, no,

there's a reason you made that rule for yourself a few years ago, and it's, yeah, you didn't magically just get better So I did you know, luckily it's fairly minor Like it's not it's not like when I was leading up to the meat and I tweaked my back and it was like Oh god, like that actually was a bad one. This is like, okay, this kind of hurts It's sort of annoying but I'll be I'll be fine here in a few days. So it's I guess so I've jumped around but anything else on Mac the year of macro factor

No, that's actually pretty much it for me If anything I said there sounds interesting to you like I was saying use code massonomics It helps us out a little bit. Yeah, we get something for that right. Yeah, we do and actually a lot of people For real have have signed up in the past year So yeah, if you if you did, you know going back a year if you've ever signed up for macro factor Thank you. We have noticed that there was there was there was a fair number of signups every single month with this past year and I think I

Think most people that signed up if they'd gave it an honest go would have a pretty Pretty favorable thing to say that it has changed their life for the better in some way if you've used MacroFactor leave a comment down on the YouTube Video of this podcast and let us know how it has gone for you Sometime over this last year. Let us know. Yeah, I mean Brad lost a ton of weight doing it I know he you know stuck with it. I think still does I remember hearing Kurt on one of his YouTube videos, Kurt Locker talking about how he's been on Macro Factor. Big Ryan from Nebraska. He was telling me how he got signed up for Macro Factor at the meet. He was talking about it. And our inside man, our inside man. Yes. So he was telling me he just got going on Macro Factor. And I know I've had a bunch of other conversations with people So yeah people are out there doing it and seemed like it Did Ryan drive his?

TRX TRX and we had a little car talk too. Okay. Yeah, I still got the TRX though. Okay Our man on the inside Inside guy the back channels. Yeah Always keep the back channels. Yeah, let's keep the back channels open What else we got this week on the Mastinomics podcast you said earlier I wanted to say this For a while now and I kept forgetting but early in this episode you made a comment and it reminded me so I couldn't go to a home gym Khan because my cousin was getting married and So I went to this wedding and they and they're a little younger than me.

They're like 28-ish. So in my head, you know, that's eight years younger than me. That feels like, oh, that's like a whole just generational gap. Like, they're so much younger and sometimes I get reminded, like, actually, no. Based off of the wedding dance and everything, it's like, no, they kind of still listen to the same music that you did.

And they're into a lot of the same stuff. Like it's actually not as big of a gap as you think. But one thing I thought was very funny during the wedding is after everyone gives their speeches and everything, the husband stands up and he's talking about all the stuff and he goes, oh, you know, it's just so great. I could do this all with my girlfriend and people kind of go oh, and he's like sorry my wife He's set and baited everyone for the my way Even people eight years younger than me still have the bore out love

What is also funny because borat came out in? 2006 yeah, that's that was I mean I feel like I was young when I was watching borat You know that tells me it came out when he was like 10. Yeah, which must be One of those things though that when people get either research or even college like is it just a movie? That's just on 24-7 in you know the college apartment or your college house It probably is yeah, I went surprising cuz it's so dumb. You know, it's like the type of stuff. That's funny to watch Yeah, well the classic though bussing dumb. You know, it's like the type of stuff that's funny to watch. Yeah. Well, the classic though, Busting Out To My Wife.

Keeping the dream alive. Yeah. Oh, OK. I didn't just see one thing here. Kind of along the lines of Macro Factor. Ben, I'm curious. I want to know what people's favorite Favorite sauces and spices for their foods are I'm always you know I know we got some people that like to cook do a little grilling and all that stuff, but just cooking in general

I'm I'm genuinely curious because you know you can get sauces that are tasty, but they also have a shit ton of calories I'm really genuinely curious what people are using to to take their food to the next level that is Just tasty sauces and spices. I want to know what you got. So Leave a comment on this video in the youtube go. Are you just looking for recommendations for yeah I just want to know what people what people like to say is to spice it up a little bit Yes, just to change it up. You know, it's funny when we go to jiu-jitsu like, you know, he busts out It's like here's the rice bowl. Here's the meat bowl. And he's like, um, here's like nine different spices and sauces. And it's like, yeah, you just flavor. And that over the past year has slowly been how my,

my eating has shifted much more towards that too of, yep, there's, there's meat, a meat of some kind, there's rice, and then there might be some veggies mixed into. And really the flavor comes from picking your protein and then what sauce or seasoning you want to put on it that day. So I'm really curious what people what some of their go-to's are when it comes to flavoring their food. You have to double check because I eat shredded chicken breast every single day for lunch that my wife makes. My wife makes it you know it's that my wife makes. My wife makes it. You know, it's buy a whole bunch of pounds of chicken breast,

bake it all, and then once it's baked, shred it all up and then portion it out into, you know, eight to 10 ounce portions and then I eat that every. But she seasons that with something, and I wanna double check what it is. Is it always the same? Does she ever change it? Yeah, yeah, cause I like it.

You know, it's just, I'm like, don't. Cause I've been like, don't. That is what I want. what I want. And I got it. Don't mess this up. And there's never a it's weird. I eat that every day for lunch outside of traveling or weekends. I actually were every workday eat that for lunch weekends, I might eat something different. But every every single work day, that exact same thing. I don't think there's ever been a single day. And this as is my habits. Yeah, I know what you're gonna say here. Right. There's never been a day that I've not liked it. I've never been like, Oh, I'm so sick of this. I'm always like, yep. And I have that and rice and fat free cheddar cheese on it. And

every day. That's I'm like, I could eat it. I mean, I do eat it every day. And I'm pretty sure I could eat it for the next 50 years and never be like, oh, I need something different. I can't, I have to, even breakfast, I have to change up whether it's over easy eggs or scrambled eggs. I have to change up.

Basically there has to be a different hot sauce on it almost every day. Like I might go through a stretch where like, Oh, no, I really like this hot sauce this week, but I have like four or five different hot sauces. I have to switch through for breakfast or I just can't. I need the variety. The food is fine, but I just need the variety of that final flavor to keep me engaged. And that's, that's where I'm getting to with, with like, you know, let's say meat, like let's say just hamburger and rice

or chicken and rice. It's one time the chicken has to be with more of like a Mexican flavor on it. And then the next time, okay, we might do some barbecue sauce. And then the next time, no, we're doing more of like a Japanese barbecue or like more of a soy sauce kind of flavor. And then the next time, oh, it might just be seasoned

with these spices. And I gotta have that variety to keep Me and as long as I got the variety I'm good, but if it's the same all the time, that's where I start to struggle Yeah, I actually don't like the variety of that and it does Like you talk like cuz everyone saw I will have hamburger and rice instead and I'm like I don't even like this is just so flavorful compared to the only it is but I'm like I don't even really need like the flavor is the it doesn't need much when you're doing the beer because it does It just does taste like when you're used to eating pretty basic stuff. Then when you just have like hamburger and rice

I'm like this actually is really good. Just like that Taste the little just a little bit of fat just making that sort of better. Yes, that's what it is. And probably the easiest way for me if I ever really wanted to try and dial in, you know, with macro factor, it would just be, I just need to prep that food twice as much as I do now because I could eat it for every meal. You know, I could eat it for supper every day also.

Like my variability is I have different, you know, I eat with the family for supper but if I Pre-made all of the if I eat that exact same thing for supper to which I did I could eat that twice a day every day I can never I honestly don't know if I Your entire life the same breakfast and the same lunch and dinner I think I could actually like if I I could consider changing my breakfast even I could eat my breakfast My breakfast is too fatty. I can't have that all the time But then I have like very I have like no fat in my lunch meal usually. Yeah, you know like chicken

There's no fat your and rice and then fat-free cheese But well, I guess the fat that I do get is when I have cottage cheese also. You know, so when I. I thought that was fat cottage cheese. Right, right. But that would be what it would usually come from. But I could probably replace my breakfast meal with that and eat it just.

Three times a day. I could just eat it. And I don't know if I would ever be like, oh, no, because I do kind of like it. Or I do enjoy it. And I just it's so basic that there's like if I had, you know, you mentioned like if it was Asian seasoned, or, you know, something like that, I would get sick of that after the third time because I'm like, Oh, this

is too, too significant of a flavor. But since it's so just so it's hard for me to get sick of it because it's so neutral. Yeah, it tastes like that. But that it's so just so it's hard for me to get sick of it because it's so neutral. Yeah, it tastes like that. But that's right. And that's what I could eat that. But where it starts to get hard for me is like, I just it just kills my appetite to where I'm just like, Yeah, I'm actually I'm not that hungry in the first place ever. Right. And then also, this doesn't taste great. So yeah, I just actually

don't even really feel like eating anymore. And that's where I would like I need the I need the flavor to make me want to Eat because otherwise I can just I can just check out and also I'm not getting my calories and then I Think you mentioned part of your problem and part of the benefit is macro factor is that you by default would eat less Yeah, and I think the the older I get that becomes more I start to fall closer into that camp, or at least what I would say, if nothing else is, as long as I start my day with breakfast, a good breakfast, which I,

99.9% of the time always do, even when traveling, it's like as long as I can get breakfast, I actually can, I could not eat lunch and I'm not gonna like have a bad day. Yeah, like I could. I mean, I never don't really eat lunch. I try to, but when it does come up that I don't, or like if I didn't, wasn't making myself do it

because of like training and stuff like that, I could certainly not eat lunch. Yeah, I got it. It's just a hassle. Like it's way easier to just not have to worry about eating. Right, Saturday, you know, we took, we actually went out for breakfast. We hadn't got out for breakfast in a while.

And so we probably didn't eat until like 10. It's like, well, I ate a lot and all of a sudden, OK, it's lunchtime. It's like, I just ate two hours ago. I don't need to eat. And then all of a sudden it's like three o'clock. And it's like, I haven't really ate bread. I haven't really ate lunch. It's like, I don't really want to make a meal though right now.

It's a supper. Getting dinner in just a couple hours here. It's like I could just go, but also I'm going to be way under my calories. I'm like, okay, I better put down like a yogurt and a protein bar at least. So I have, you know, a lot of people do consider that a meal, you know, you know, in the bodybuilding training sense. Like, that's one of the meals. That's a meal.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't really think of it that way. But I'm like, that's like the snack I have to just so that my third or my final meal of the day doesn't have to be 2000 calories, you know, to catch me up for what I've been missing all day. Yeah, that's like what I fall into on weekends is my problem. That's when I do that because weekdays I'm eating breakfast by like 630 a.m.

Yeah, and you got the schedules just in place. Right, right. But on a weekend, if I'm not eating breakfast until 8 or 8 30 a.m. Then I'm like, oh, I definitely don't need lunch now I'm like two hours and then I'm like if I just wait till like Four and have a really big meal then like we only have to eat twice today. I know Then I have to worry about the you know, it's the hassle of getting all the stuff out The dishes yeah dishes. It's just life's just easier, you know, it's the hassle of getting all the stuff out. Warming the dishes. Yeah, dishes. It's just life's just easier, you know.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I might need to get macro factor. We'll see if next year when we check in, if I'm still thinking about getting. Right. And who knows, maybe we'll get some really good sauce and spice recommendations this week. Yeah. Oh, I don't know if you've heard. Have you heard about this? But have you seen this, have you heard about this? But at, have you seen this? Have you heard about this?

At Qdoba, they have this little hot sauce called Chalua. I don't know if you've ever tried it before. I get it. They, at Costco, they have, you know, the Qdoba at most grocery stores, it's just the cute little like, I don't know, five ounce bottle, whatever it is. Qdoba sells a two stores, it's just the cute little like, I don't know, five ounce bottle, whatever it is. Qdoba sells a two, Costco sells a two pack

of like a 15 ounce bottle, it looks comically large. So I always got one of those in stock at all times, you know, gotta have one of those on you. Qdoba changed so that they did not have to go packets of Chilula. Oh they do? Yeah, they're never, you know, it's like ketchup packets, only it's Chilula packets. They don't got the bottles? You know, I think they still have the bottles.

No, but they also have what I think they got tired of people coming in and taking the bottles to go. Yeah. So they said, we'll offer you to go. OK, I was about to throw it out. We used to be a proper country there. No, no, I think like you got options. Now there was like some shady individuals that walk in and take and take advantage of the system here.

Well, I don't even know if it was taking advantage. Honestly, it's like you bought a burrito. It's just like you expect to get your sauce given to you. Right. Right. It's like and you didn't have to take one every time. Like you take it and keep it at home. And when you got a burrito again, you'd use it again. And the honor, you know, use it till it's gone. And then when it's gone and you get another burrito to go, then you get your bottle and

you, you know, it's kind of right. It's like, yeah, I exchanged money. I gave you money. You give me goods. It's pretty right. Right. And like, were you supposed just because you're going to have it to go, that means you're denied having Chilua sauce on your burrito.

Like I never, I don't know where you signed signed up anyone signed up for that part of the agreement But now they have it in to go packet so Fits in your pocket a little easier, I guess Yeah, I think it all worked out Yeah, that's that's my go-to hot sase Do you like to just Tabasco? I'm sure we've talked about it. You know, I actually, I never buy Tabasco.

I don't mind it. Actually, I don't, just brought this up with someone the other day where I was like, I haven't had Tabasco in forever. I should buy some again. Cause I do like, one of my preferred flavors is buffalo. And, you know, Buffalo has essentially no calories in it. Like, I think Buffalo tastes great on chicken all the time.

I think Buffalo tastes great on pork. I don't ever eat it on hamburger of any kind, like any beef. But chicken and pork buffalo is one of my go to go to sauces. So if you ever tried to Tabasco, I know not the same, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever tried Big John's old west bar and dipping sauce not calorie free I mean not calorie free. No, that's the one when you want to treat flavorful. Yeah, you want to treat yourself? That's the one you go to yeah there big John's old west barbecue and dipping sauce as as sampled at the lift Hardly of easy classic Friday night

That one's that one's tough to beat. It's one of the all-timers right there But like you said that's more of a if you had a whole bunch of that off everything all the time That's actually gonna add up to some calories. Yeah, if you're having a couple servings of that off every lunch and dinner like yeah You're at unlike, you know, I mean it's a serving probably a hundred some calories Probably and if you're doing two servings, our lunch and yeah, I mean, you're adding like four or 500 calories in your day right there, which over a course of a week adds up. Right. Here's what the other thing I would say about sauces and based on what I've said

already in this episode, this will probably come as no surprise to anyone. But I like my sauces to whisper at me, not scream. Like if I'm going to add like I can, I can use all less because I I like my sauces to whisper at me not scream I can use all West because I Any sauce I don't even if it's a very yeah, and I'm not doing it cuz I'm like, oh I got watching my calories I just like my sauces to whisper at me not not shout and that's I don't usually worry about the barbecue like always because I'm not using it every day and when I do use it I'm Not using a ton, but there's something that sometimes I'm not using it every day and when I do use it, I'm not using a ton but there's something that sometimes I'm like No, this just has to get sauced up and to just really load up the buffalo and know that you're almost no calories

And we can really crank up the flavor Same thing with hot sauces, you know, no hot sauce is really have any flavors So like today when I do any calories are sorry any yeah, like no no calories lots of flavor. No calories So like yeah today when I do like a chicken bowl, you know I throw some rice in there some chicken some beans a little bit of cheese and we're dumping the hot sauce on and yeah We're in flavor town now. See I liked it like at Thursday night at loggers Big Scott Dodds Dodds. They're like he got rip, you know ribs Yeah, I'm gonna get the ribs to there. Yeah, and he's like, oh you get him sauceless That's the then you don't have to worry about you know, ribs, ribs to there. Yeah. And he's like, Oh, you get him sauceless. That's the then you don't have to worry

about, you know, there's no because he's watched he had to make weight and stuff. And he's like, Yeah, no sauce. And they're really good. And I'm like, Oh, I had an overly disgusting long beard at the time. And I'm like, I would be nice not to have it covered in sauce for the rest of this night and I got sauceless and there again I'm like, oh yeah, sauceless. I could go all day You know you can do that with wings too. You can get your swing Yeah sauce on the side if you need to clean it. Yeah, I do like that sometimes too, but

It's yeah, it's harder to find a good dry rub I do not like but you can tell me just completely cook your wings and then just put the sauce on the side But I know I don't I don't do that, but I know some people do. It's like, I don't know, I'm scarred by that because like Buffalo wings and rings, which used to be in Aberdeen, well, that is their default way they did it. Oh, it was?

But I think that their wings kind of weren't that good and it just rubbed me wrong on that whole system Then I'm like, yeah, I don't don't like necessarily but I don't want my The way I like my sauce to whisper at me and not scream. I don't want it to come out drown I don't I don't want my food items to be drowning in the sauce I put on it. So yeah, it just depends sometimes. Yeah, it can be Like I don't want my my meat fighting for its life in your saucy pool that you made for it.

What about chat GPT? Anything going on there? Okay. I think it was offline. Are you just gonna see if I know what chat GPT? Have you heard about this? Kind of it's kind of Gonna be a big thing someday Tanner. I don't know if you've heard about this yet, but

No chat GPT if you're a person that's in front of a computer at all You've probably have used it at this point to be kind of crazy. Actually if you do use it every day. Ah Yeah, I do use it every day. Yeah, so I think we talked about this offline tanner I feel like this just should be a public service announcement for some people I think most people probably know this but maybe just hearing it out loud would be helpful Is that? Chat GPT as cool as it is for a lot of things Especially from a marketing tech standpoint, it falls into some very predictable patterns.

Like, there's a lot of people, and hey, we do a ton, we use it a fair amount, I've used it with things, and you just gotta know what you're getting. There's definitely situations where it does not frickin' matter, you just need some text, who cares? You don't wanna write it. But there are times where I think people are like really trying to put their best foot forward,

and I'm like, dude, this is so obviously just like spotted from a mile away. Okay. And so here, so we're going to just talk about some of them right now. And some of these people, like it's going to be the thing of you knew this. Some people are going to be like, oh my God, I never realized it. And it's like seeing the matrix. And okay, first of all, one of them, the M dash, this is what actually set this whole thing off for me is the fricking M dash. Are you familiar actually with the M dash Tanner?

Only because I think when we talked about it. Okay, yeah, so people that don't know what I'm talking about, there is a hyphen, you know, a little dash. There is, I think actually an N dash, like the letter N, and then there's an M dash and an N dash and an M dash. What's the difference? Well it's a dash that's like the width of a letter N and the dash that's the width of a letter M. Right. And I learned about these terms in like 2007 or 8 when I went to graphic design school and we had

a class on typography where they teach you all about letters and characters and what the different parts of them are called and how they work and all this and they taught us what that is and the special keyboard combination chapter on the tilde. That's where I learned about it was in that actually that's why I knew what that was called because of that. And. And that's where I learned about the M dash and the special keyboard combination you have to hit to make that Yeah, I thought wow, that's crazy I'll probably never use this and Over the next I don't know

Let's say that was 2007. So over the next 19 years I've worked with a lot of different clients on a lot of different budgets and a lot of different projects and I've had a lot of people from different walks and life and backgrounds supply me text for things and The number of times in almost 20 years where a client supplied me with an M-dash Text that had an actual legit M-dash in it Maybe 10 like maybe you would see it once a year Like there was definitely years where wouldn't buy and I wouldn't see it And then maybe the next year I might see it twice And now all of a sudden I mean I see em dashes daily now like and it's because chat GBT freaking loves M-dashes like like that's one of the first indicators that you got chat GBT Texas

There's just M-dashes just splice through it and I'm I'm not gonna like trap. I'm just gonna say I had a project yesterday art not yesterday a project recently for a client and This little project very short I mean just a couple of paragraphs on some different things and The this project had like 17 M dashes in it and I'm like, well, that's that's way too many. This is from chat GPT. So I've kind of started taking this habit of either just turn them into hyphens. And a lot of times these M dashes are appearing in what would just be long run on sentences. So a lot of times you can just either add in a comma or you can

just put a period and make a new sentence and it just works just fine. And I did some of that and actually had a client be like, hey, yeah, I think something happened. You remove all of our M dashes. In case you didn't know this is how you make an M dash, can you please add those back in? And I was just like, flabbergasted. I'm like, well, that's so clearly just text that was just copy pasted from ChatGBT.

Don't you just even want to cover your tracks a little bit? I don't know, maybe we're all in on the joke. So did you say that to them at all? I mean, just my response is, oh, sorry, like it's usually just a really obvious sign that somebody was copying and pasting from chat GPT. And they go, oh, no worries, just please put them back in. Like, OK, OK, like that's your call.

I mean, that's on you. And it's whatever. Again, is it right or wrong? That's up for your business to decide. So the M dash, that's one. The weather, weather comparison, whether you're doing this or this. it right or wrong, that's up for your business to decide. So the M dash, that's one. The weather, weather comparison, whether you're doing this or this. Whether you're doing this or this, whether you need this or this, whether it's this or

this. I mean, Chad GBT uses that nonstop. And I actually, a lot of times in a marketing context or a copy, a text context for let's say I'm doing a website, I have to tell it, do not use weather comparisons. Do not do that. And it won't do it for like the next entry and then it's right back on it.

Quit, it loves to do that. So you'll see that a ton. I think everyone's gonna know this one. The second you start seeing bullet points with emojis out front Right there, and I know people do some of that But dude chat GPD loves to give you bullet point and it might even just be bullet points where it's just a green check mark Emoji five times

But it also loves to just give the bullet points of here's an emoji that kind of loosely relates to whatever this is Yeah, that one's super popular and then another one that I've seen a lot and I, this was one I didn't pick up on my own, but I saw someone else call this out and it really raised the flag for me was I think they called it triplets where it's even X, Y or Z or you can run, you can jump and you can even do this. Like it always wants to do things in triples. And, uh, yeah, like that, that's a good, you know, it's like this number that people like, you know, three things and, but chat GBT really loves to do that.

It's always giving you your, and it actually pairs that up with the weather where the, uh, whether you listen, watch or listen in live, we love to have you here, like it just, we love to have you here. Like, it just, it loves to do that stuff. Like, that's the perfect combo is the weather that, or the bullet, like it always, it'll give you three bullet points a lot of times. So the triplets are really common.

And then one of the final pieces is how wordy it can be to like, just how long it can take to get to the point. Like it can just be, and how positive it is. So it can like just be so overly positive with like this flowery glowing language about something. It's like dude we're just like talking about freaking I Don't know it's not necessary Yeah, we don't need all this extra fluffier Like you're being way too positive way to like no person would write this positively about this mundane thing. So right

Those are just a few things I've noticed with chat chat GPT There's some people listening to this right now and their job doesn't revolve around reading a bunch of emails and letters and marketing talk from Companies and they're probably like yeah, whatever man But then there's also people that probably work in an office and like oh my god I see so much of that crap now and I'm so over it. Yeah, I would think at some point in time It gets better and better and better and like those things I mean it should but become less. I mean yes it's obviously going to at some point but I think like I was reading why is the M dash thing like

why is that a thing? Right. And it just said because Chad GBT is just trained on so and I think like large language models in general are just trained on just so much just copy online, informal copy, and I think like ingesting YouTube videos and stuff like this. And people don't talk in nice sentences. It's just runs on and it goes and it's disjointed.

And how do you combine these disjointed run on long thoughts? You know, throw that M dash in there and all of a sudden you've connected thoughts that weren't necessarily things. And I think that's where it gets it from. It also does not like to people who say, I haven't noticed it because I don't really tell it to do it in this way, but it never likes to, you know, offer like personal,

like if you and I are writing something for Mastodonomics, it's going to be a lot of, oh, we are so grateful for this. Oh yeah, I'm, yeah, this is Tanner. I love, you know, I love meeting everyone this weekend. I love doing this It's never doing the I and we talk because it's nice, you know, it's being the objective Neutral third party so you're never gonna get that that more first-person communication with it So something to be aware of chat GPT chat GPT can't live without it can't live with it. I

Don't know if you're using it I don't know maybe just think of your job as more of a copy editor versus a copy and paste or maybe That's what I feel like it's the trick is it's like, you know, it's like an I it's a helper. Yeah Yeah, you're the creative starter. Yeah jumping off point. Yes Yes, or like I do this all the time where I just, I need something from like a marketing stamp. When I say marketing, I'm saying just text to represent a company,

like Masanomics or someone else's company. And I know the idea I'm trying to get across, so I just write like four sentences. Like it's like, You don't worry about it being grammatically correct. Make this better. And I'm just like, okay, this message, this message, this message, and this is cool.

And this is good. And we like this. And then it spits out something and I'm like, okay, thank you. You put the nice transitions in, you made it a coherent thought. You added the M dash. You added the M dash and you made it way too long. So I can remove the last sentence. I can remove the weather comparison and I can get rid of the M dash.

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