Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 489: The Home Gym Barbell Tier List

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

We put over 20 different barbells and specialty bars into a tier list for home gym lifters (the list pretty much applies to any kind of gym). It's crazy how we got every one completely right and nobody will disagree with us on anything. EliteFTS Use code MASS10 to save 10% on most orders! Build Fast Formula Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! BearFoot Shoes Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% on every order! Juggernaut AI Use code MASSENOMICS to save 10%! The Strength Co Get some Go-To Plates! Texas Power Bars Get the Barbell that changed the game!

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. Welcome, everyone. First-time listeners, long-time listeners. We're happy that Oliver you are here for episode 489 of the Massonomics podcast, The Lifting Podcast, About Nothing Recorded Live from the Corners of the Dakotas. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy.

Right before the show started Tanner, I said, God, it feels like we just did this. And you said, yeah, because we did just do this. Recording about, what, four days apart here? Just recorded a few days ago. Luckily, we're always locked and loaded. You know we keep them topics on us. We don't ever take a day off, ever over here. What if 489 was the episode where it's like, yep, ran out of stuff?

Just never happened. We went silent. We just like, yeah, we kind of, it just took 488 and we got to it all. That was it. Yeah. It did take 488, but we did get it all. Yeah. we knew it was coming and here we are 489 though we are just 11 out is that right 11 out

from 500 that seems so close we could reach out and grab 500 almost but then you say 11 weeks that does feel yeah I know but 11 episodes is like nothing 11 weeks is a little while but man for the big reveal what's 11 weeks when you've done 489 of them low really yeah nothing it's almost like in the in the in the like 2% I was going to say in the line graph that is our podcast history, it's almost like an not noticeable move to the right. It is. It's just another tiny little data set.

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and we have a drop coming this month. We're not exactly sure yet if it's going to be on the 21st or the 28th. It's going to be one of those two dates, but we'll just give you the heads up now just in case it is the week. of this coming out it could be august 21st if we get the last pieces of the puzzle lined up in time for that so be on the lookout there is a t-shirt in that drop there is a couple of pretty top-secret items that are not apparel related something that's been in the works you can say r and d has been extensive on this one actually maybe it's certainly up there with our most r and d um

of any product we've ever sold. Yeah, right? It's, I mean, on our end, probably the most R&D we've had to do on anything. Yeah, and like the most manufacturing time that we've got into stuff. I mean, it's up there with, certainly up there with the Drink Spotter Collection is what I would say. It's right up there with that. And then something else, a little collab piece in the drop that's a lot of fun. Also, there's going to be a big sale as a part of that.

of that drop also yeah i forgot about part of that too this is going to be some big uh maybe even some 50% off items we're talking about 50% off with lead fDS bands uh you might be able to be able to just get some of that action at massanomics.com also at this drop so we're not revealing yet what any of the items are because it could be an additional week until that actually uh comes into play but just be on the lookout it's it's going to be a big one i would say right don't you think it's going to be a big one of my overtest dating there's some uh there's some fame there's some notoriety there's some internet clout on the uh on the line on this one so yeah you don't sleep on this one it's it's it's it's gonna be bag but we'll we'll give more updates on that as we actually

you know what maybe it will be the 21st what's your guess is it drop going to be on the 21st the 28th um i'd like it to be the 21st but yeah me too But we'll see. Okay. I wanted to bring a, well, actually, what, you got a can over there or something? Oh, what are you drinking, something? I am quite thirsty. Before, I don't want to put the cart before the horse.

I'm going to drink mine out of this drink spotter chill, which is currently completely sold out on the website. I seriously got to find out of these. It's here somewhere, and I keep forgetting to look for it. Likely for you, there's going to be a new version of the drink spotter chill coming someday. so a little spoiler. So another one I can lose. Yep.

It'll go where your first one is. Bernie probably. I'll find him one day and both their magnets will be stuck together. I'm like, oh. Bernie's going to be crapping out leather from eating your drink spot or chill.

He's crapped out worse things than that. So. Who hasn't been there before though, honestly? No judgment to Bernie. Nope. What do you got to Kirkland line? That's always, what do you got over there?

I got myself a rambler because I'm, a bit of a rambler man. Okay. Coming to Aberdeen this week, I have to get some of those before I leave. You'll probably forget them, so. There's a 95% chance I will, but I hope I remember. Big Lauren made sure I'm a bit of a rambling man, so I've got the rambler great fruit, and wow, it does not disappoint.

I'm very jealous. I guess along those lines, I am coming to Aberdeen this week, so we have big content plans. Yeah, we're shooting at least four videos here in western, northeast, south Dakota, right? Yeah, and I'm actually excited for all of them because two of them I don't know much about. You're going to be the one leading the way. Actually, three of them I don't really know much about. We got a gym tour in store. Well, we got a couple gym tours even. Yeah. And one of them's a supporting member gym tour coming at you pretty soon, actually. So just stay tuned to see that little ditty. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Yeah, so we do have some

some exciting content. The YouTube content machine keeps rolling. Have we ever not posted a new YouTube video since we started the YouTube thing? There was actually one. Has it been like two years? Yeah, there was like one week where I missed one. Yeah. Like we didn't have like a ton of stuff and then life was kind of crazy and it was, it was

when we actually just were winging it literally week by week. And I think I was going to talk. It was, I believe it was one where I was doing like the talking head thing. And then I couldn't do it again the next week. I'm like, dude, I still have not been able to do this. And you're like, I'm going to film something. And you went to the gym and just shot something quick with your phone. I'm pretty sure.

So did we post something then? The second week we did then. We did miss one week. Because I remember you talking like, yeah, just the idea of missing two weeks really bugged me. Yeah. You wouldn't got something. But we have made up for it. That's been a little while.

Oh. It's been one week. You look at me Really quick on the button It's been a while Yeah I think that's been close to two years Pages of buttons That really gets me

Because when I have to change pages It's like a three button I don't That's why I just keep everything on the first one And if it doesn't make it there Then it's not happening Yeah Too many buttons

And I don't How do they expect you To know what these buttons are I believe in the newer versions They've done some things To fix that I think Okay

I think Well, the only thing you can do you can pull, I believe if you pull up the app on your computer, the road app, I think the buttons have, you can see on screen the labels are assigned to them. I'm not going to click on. Yeah, I'd be afraid to do that right now

while you're recording. It's going to like stop the recording and be like, oh, we just ruin the podcast. I'm pretty sure that is the second way to do it is, you can label them on your computer and hit them from the screen. I'm going to look into that actually because that would be. Yes, you can have the idea of pressing them on the board,

but yeah, right, right, right. okay that's good to know i never thought about that of course that's of course but pro tips um i wanted to bring up something you don't know about i have the topic of ape in the oh yeah yeah so monkey shows or something are you familiar with uh the clothing brand ape man strong i it's been a while but yes i am It's been a while It's been more than one week since I've seen very much

from 8 Man Strong in the lifting scene. It's been a lot of weeks. I do see that they're after maybe like a six-year hiatus, they've been trying to make a little bit of a resurgence in the power lifting scene for the last month or two. Yeah, I saw one thing pop up. That was probably a couple months ago and now I haven't. I think because Huck Finn was, you know,

they were tagging him in some things. In some videos that were about a decade old. Yeah. And so I think that crossed my radar. But outside of that, I have not seen anything. It's just interesting after them not marketing the lifters for about 10 years. Five to 10 years, approximately. You know, I'm not actively at least. Like, I mean, have you seen someone, we go to the Arnold every year. We host a big lifting meet with a few hundred lifters at it every year. And we go to home. Jim Con. Once the last time you've seen someone wearing an eight man strong shirt? I mean,

I'm sure someone probably had one out of the Arnold, but I don't remember. But we usually take note of different, we're always like, we're always looking and be like to different brands. You know, like 700,000 people, whatever they say someone probably had one.

I just don't remember it is what I'm saying. Yeah. And I would say the same. Same what happened to us though. If we just quit doing stuff for years on end, that's how most businesses go. You don't do anything. people forget and the internet changed a little bit you know social media what works on social

media has changed over the last decade you and i talk about this all the time maybe the most annoying thing on instagram there's a lot of a really annoying things on instagram but one of the most annoying things on instagram is the people that complain that what worked on instagram in like 2014 doesn't work now and it's like anymore yeah what worked on the internet in 24 doesn't work now. What worked in business in 2014 kind of doesn't work now. Like, believe it or not, 11 years have passed. The world has changed a little bit.

So just because it worked before doesn't mean it will and should work now. Like I, right. And it's so frustrating that that's actually a concept that some people are mad at or can't comprehend. Well, it's kind of like they're acting like that we used to be a proper freaking country. Well, they are. It's that. It's also.

They're saying, they wake up and saying, God, dang it. We used to be a proper freaking country. Yeah. It's also this entitlement to like, well, I had this before, so I'm granted this success forever. It's like, no, man, that's not how the world works. Yeah, that's true. And I'm not saying that specifically to this company, but it just has changed quite a bit. And just like a great example would be if we hadn't posted since 2018 and we all of a sudden started trying, or we hadn't posted, we hadn't podcast, we hadn't YouTubeed anything since 2018. And we were like, hey, don't forget about us. everyone we're still here we got a new shirt everyone would be like uh or you know all the content

we posted was just repostive verses from 2016 people like yeah you did this 10 years ago like these people aren't even lifting anymore what's going on what else you got yeah yeah the world has moved on just an interesting observation no point actually i have no point just observing yeah we do a lot of observing from our corners of the internets. Yes. Another observation I wanted to bring up here, we talked about this

earlier today when we were working on something, but chat Jeep, we use chat GPT for ideas, you know, different things. And I ask it stuff about lifting. You know, anytime I have an idea or concept, I'll run something through it. And chat GPT, in reference to massonomics or the lifting community, loves

chalk. ChatGPT thinks that chalk is the funniest reference ever. I've gotten to the point where I'll say, I'll ask you something, and then I'll be like, no chalk references will be the, like, I'll include like nothing about chalk. Just chalk this one up to. Yeah. I like, give us, give me some ideas, nothing about chalk. Leave chalk out of this. Like, oh, we're going to make a chalky mess. Because they're all terrible ideas. that involved chalk, too. It's never ever the appropriate or good idea. It's just terrible that I don't know if that like is pulling from massanomics or just the

lifting culture in general when it doesn't love. Because we don't ever talk about chalk, though, is the thing that's so funny about it. It's just like you and the Coke Zero is how it just thinks you love Coke Zero when we've never talked about that before. I, the only thing I like more than Coke Zero is lifting jokes about chalk. I mean, I guess I make the memes about, um, put in chalk directly on the barbell, but in the pool of our total memes,

that's a fraction of a fraction of a percent. And you haven't done hardly any of that lately, and that still is just one of the tiniest little jokes you've made over time. Big Gary mentioned there was a lot of chalk in your garage, too. So maybe it's going, maybe it remembers. Yeah, there was that, but we've talked about a lot of other things that it doesn't make jokes about.

Oh, and the, uh, Brandon says when you got Bukakied by the chalk who was true actually Wait a second Maybe this chalk thing Maybe they're on to something here Chad GBT found that pretty enjoyable and it doesn't want to forget That was a lot of chalk in the wool that got stuck in the wool That was actually that was a lot of chalk

I like that dried my skin and hair out for a while All right change in my mind. Love all the stupid chalk jokes that aren't funny. You know what? More of them. My only complaint is they don't make enough jock jokes. Yes.

Okay. Well, we're going to do a tier list episode this week. We got a special tier list. I don't know if you probably notice the title. So you've guessed we're going to get to that at some point in time anyways. But do we want to jump into the, do the tier list for a while and then come back some other stuff and jump back and forth or what do you know maybe maybe we'll do that that way you know because last last week it only took us an hour to get to the point maybe we'll get there

a little faster this week okay then we'll come back to maybe some supporting our supporting our supporting members certified training facility of the week that sort of thing okay so do you have the do you have your tier list thing that you do uh yeah don't you need to intro me in oh gosh of course Oh, oh, now we got a show on our hands. Yeah, it's not really a tier list until we hear Disturb. That just, like, woke me up from my slumber. I've come alive. Like, kind of just hanging out here on a Monday night,

and then the tier list, or then the Disturb comes in like a wrecking ball. Yeah, and now I'm just remembering, when you said that tierless thing, I actually need to send you this link, or do you still have that to view this stuff? No, I definitely don't have that. Okay. I don't really know how you do that magic link. It's voodoo. Does that take a minute?

I could do supporting our supporting members. No, I'm sending it to right now. Okay. We were really prepared on this one. Well, you know what they say? When it's a tier list, we always come prepared for a tier list. So I hope that one works for you. Let's send that and see what happens.

Okay. And what is the title of this particular tier list? Or like, what is the list that we're tiering this time? So. Oh, damn it. Okay. Dad. All right.

This week's tier list is the home gym bar tier list. Did I do that good? All right. Yeah. So it is barbells somewhat specifically to a home gym, right? Yeah. And specialty bars. Like not just purely straight up barbells.

Like we're talking specialty bars. tier two. That's why it is the home gym bar tier list. Okay, I think I made it in, I made it into our tier list here. You see the empty table here. Yeah, what a, do I need to zoom in a little bit? Oh, okay, yeah. Got it. So our old ones are here too. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm going to look back at our clothing tier list and our classic protein food. What's, all right, so this would be our fourth tier list in this addition to the list. This actually just reminded me, I have to just cut you off really quick before I forget. I still think about this on the food, the food, the a protein food tier list because we weren't doing your traditional, you know, chicken breast.

We were mixing it up, doing some crazier stuff. And I think it's in the YouTube comments. I can't remember if it's someone that we know that left the comment, but they go, starting a protein food tier list with chicken wings is diabolical. It was, the comment was along those lines. If you didn't know what you were in for, you were going to be caught off guard right away. That really sets the stage, doesn't it? That does kind of set the stage for what's coming.

I got the gym music tier list. Oh, man. Well, this is perfect timing because our YouTube video this week, which Big David popped up. Our new YouTube video this week is the 29mm Texas Power Bar review, correct? Yeah, I actually edited it today and it'll be posting in a few days. So, I don't know, we should be kick off with one of the ultimate classics, Is it wrong to kick off with the Texas Power Bar?

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. All right. And I would somewhat ambiguously say that the Texas Power Bar, and some of these were going to be brands of bars. Some of them aren't going to be brands of bars. We're going to kind of handle that how we want to. And if you don't like it, you can just pack your shit and get out of here because it's RTOLEST. Yeah.

So, yeah, some of these will be brand specific. some won't be. Do we each get one Trump card then also? Yeah, if you want. One veto card. Yeah. Maybe as we'll say one veto one card where each of us, if we're at an impasse and one of us feel strongly, they can use their power card and place it how they want to. Yep.

I like that. Okay. So first up, you have a original Texas power bar. Am I correct? Well, I would just say whatever. It's just a Texas power bar. Okay. So I'd say if you're a 28 and a half fan or a 29 fan,

it's whichever one you're the bigger fan of. And not that this matters, but I just in my mind, I'm picturing something with like a black zinc shaft or chrome sleeve. I think it's a black zinc shaft and chrome sleeve. But it's definitely black zinc shaft and chrome sleeve. Okay. Okay.

Just so we all have the same mental picture. As far as barbells in a home gym setting, I am saying it's an S tier to me. I just can't imagine it not being an S tier. I am too. And I think about this, I think there's two things that maybe people that are critical of Texas power bars will be critical of them. I think the first one would be the roll pin design versus the snap ring, which we reference this in our video and we say, we've got Texas power bars for over 10 years. They've been used many times a day.

Has that been a point of failure or design flaw in them? Absolutely not. Like, could you even say that it's been a. point of conversation the slightly marginally worse in any way no no not at all not at all so i think not on a single one of them yeah not on like the 12 well like the 15 of them that i own so i think that's not on the 30 year old ones exactly well and those ones some of those have are they're 10 years old they've been used multiple times a day every day like they would they that would be those ones that are 10 years old are used more than they would ever get used in a home gym ever like in a

lifetime more way more than a lifetime's worth yes and i and those there's two of those the ones that you're talking about and those are still they're kind of my go-to bars at the gym clanging and banging like i'm like if i'm gonna i never dislike like i'm always happy to use those bars because they're sometimes i'm even i go looking for and i'm like oh darn someone's using those i guess i'll i guess i'll use something different but i think so now that we've had some space between the recording of that video and talking about this

and then some of the things that have happened and what I see get talked about in the home gym community because I notice a lot in the Facebook group that the conversation starts with do I go with the Rogo Ohio power bar

or do I go with the rep black diamond bar and both totally fine bars nothing wrong with those but then someone will throw in like Texas Power Bar bar and then someone usually comment will be like oh it doesn't use a snap ring design or if you look

the tolerances aren't as tight, so when you drop it, it's louder. And I'm like, dude, okay, so you said two things that actually don't affect the lifting performance. I want to be like, yeah, but what's the nerling feel like, man? Because I vastly prefer the feel of a Texas Power Bar nerling to a Rogelow Power Bar or I've never actually used a RIP black diamond bar. But if we're going to be in the same price range, there's something cool about having the American Made Classic there, isn't it? Well, I'll address the elephant in the room. Texas power bars is not active in the home gym. Well, yeah, that's what it is.

Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, they don't market specifically that audience. Like, uh, really hit that audience as hard as others, like that they don't feel like they're in the community. Then like some were not willing to support them for that reason. I don't you think like is. Oh, 100%. Yeah.

Yeah. Like there's, there is absolutely a group of people that. They're vocal in those groups Right, right Those people, you know So they're going to be the ones commenting Oh, God damn it I forgot to erase my card

This is This is some great A footage I can't be So are you running out of footage Or uh I forgot delete my video from last year Rookie mistake Oldest trick in the book

Oh the only thing is It just makes it a pain for me editing But we are back Okay We're so back Yeah, but I like to see how people bring up, like, their complaints are the tolerances with the noise on dropping an empty bar or moving the bar and whatever else. And I'm like, dude, you're missing the whole part, actually using the damn bar. And using the bar, the Texas Power Bar Bar feels amazing.

Correct. And it's an icon. It is the icon. But sometimes they don't get his fan boy. They don't get fanboid in the ultimate home gym nerd community because they do not. I don't know what the right word is. I'm going to say cater. I don't like that word.

I was going to say market. I don't know if I like that word. But they're not as invested in that community. Yeah. They're not trying to go off. I mean, and I also think at the end of the, I mean,

this is actually turned into a bigger conversation than bars. But like at the end of the day, I do believe that someone that is in that community. I believe that is a relatively small community. Oh, it's absolutely. Absolutely. It's also, we're talking about also a very vocal, very minority. Yeah, like a percent of a percent. And don't get me wrong, I love that percent of a percent. But like that's also not what like, well, it's why they don't have to worry.

You know, some people don't have to worry about it. Most people just like want a gym to work out in and once they got that they're fine with it. You know, it's. Yep. Yep. Okay. So S tier. S tier. Home run S tier. I mean, that was, we might as well have started the list with that in S tier and gone from there because that was just a formality. Yeah. Do you have anything that meets your fancy here that you'd like to... Actually, we're going to pick, because we're talking quality barbells here.

I'm going to grab a little one off the list here called the American Barbell Chewy Bar. Very nice bar. And this... I'm just pulling up a picture. We've seen quite a few of those in our home gym tour escapades. We've come across a lot of chewy bars. We've ran across 10% of those that exist in the wild have been featured in our barbells because, are in our tours, because there can't be that many of those out there,

and we seem to have found a lot of them. Yeah. So for people that don't know, American Barbell is a company that makes, lifting equipment, barbells, dumbbells, things like that. I'm not sure if all their stuff is made in America. I actually think that there's a portion of it that's not. Interestingly enough. Yeah.

A very, very, very nice barbell. It's got a good feel. You know, talk about the noise. You know, it makes none. Talk about the little weld around the sleeve. It looks really cool. Yeah. Yeah.

So for people that don't know, this thing is stainless steel. It says IPF power bar. I don't, it's not really IPF specs, though, is it? Like, it doesn't have the IPF collars. I don't know why it says it on their website. But yeah, like this is the one you can tell that the tolerances on everything are insane. like they are damn near perfect. It looks incredible.

It is stainless steel. And you say, well, this is all great. What's the downside? The downside is this bar is $700. $700. That is the negative of the bar is the price. And, you know, if you're comparing it to a Texas power bar at about 300, you know, is it like 2.3 times better?

No, not even close. No, no, no, no. Is it twice as good? No, I would all say it's not twice as good. Is it 50%? What is the way that marginal, marginal utility works on items, though, too? Or it's just like diminishing returns. Is it 50% better?

Even that's debatable. It has a very unique nerling feel, too. I actually really like how the nerling feels. It feels very grippy without being overly aggressive. But it's just that price tag is killer on this thing, man. And this actually one is one that, to me, is geared exclusively towards home gym nerds because I just don't think there's a whole lot of people that need a $700 stainless steel barbell.

If you need a stainless steel barbell, there are significantly cheaper options than this as well. So as cool as I think it is, I kind of put this towards like an A tier, maybe even B just because of how expensive it is. What are you thinking? Yeah, it's not an S to me for those reasons. It is really nice.

I was thinking A, but now when you say error B, I'm like, I could, you could almost talk me into B. I'm a little on the fence. Can we like put, we'll come back. I'm going to say A for now because I am going to recognize the greatness of it. It really is just the downfall is the price. It is so expensive. Right. Keith said the one in Masonomics, the J-Cup area, the Nerling was worn completely smooth by every single brand barbell.

we have does that when they our bars get used so much more heavily than uh at a home like i think people underestimate how much more they get used even at like a relatively small group gym yeah compared to at a home gym you know it just gets used instead of three times per week it's getting used like not even that 16 times a day like my texas deadlift bar gets used once, maybe twice a week. Right. And like you just said, like you could have a Texas

deadlift bar at the gym that does get you 16 times in one day. And we say 16 times, we're saying 16 different lifters. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it could, in comparison, it could get a year of wear

in about a week compared to what it gets in my home. Most of our J-Cup or anything that the bar sits in is not metal, but all it even takes is our ghost combo is metal and our other older combo is metal.

And even just those two things enough. And then a little bit that it might sit on some safeties and stuff like that. It's still enough. Everything just gets worn down like that. Mm-hmm. Just like completely. The old ones are almost to the point where you wouldn't even know NERling ever existed in that area. Oh, it is.

It's just there's the image of Nirling, but you touch it. It's perfectly smooth. It kind of mess with your brain, actually. I think A's fair. Okay. I'm going to come up with one here. Let's go. the camber bar.

So not referring to a bow bar, a buffalo bar, but the camber bar, a specialty barbell, our first specialty barbell on the list, and this is the one where it goes, very much classically a conjugate bar is what I relate it to in my head a little bit. if you train Westside conjugate or if you're like a geared lifter, you'll see them utilizing that bar quite a bit. Would you say that's true that you see people that train?

I don't. I'm not sure. I've ever seen anyone use one that's not affiliated with our thinking of Westside and their programming in some way. That to me is like an exclusive bar to that training style. Not that it has to be,

but that just how it seems to work out. One of the first specialty bars we ever got at Massonomics, Jim. It was. Here's my points on that. I don't actually dislike the bar. It's definitely one I would want at Massonomics gym. I've seen some guys use it with crazy weights at the gym.

Yep. At a home gym, it would not be towards my top end of even the specialty bars. Also, a pain in the ass to store, too. Pain in the ass to store. I guess I just don't love it. This is where we're going to offend some people on the list because some of these bars, I'm just not as big. I like all bars.

That's my biggest caveat to this. I want all the bars, but I'm not in a home gym. I have a space where I can have 100 bars, and I want all of them. I want every single one, including this, but in a home gym,

this would not be on the top of my list. In my home gym, I would probably never have one. I haven't trained with it in seven years. I don't know that it's an F tier, though, to me. I don't know. Maybe it is. I don't know. It's either a C or an F. I get. It's kind of feeling like it's a C, but. So the lowest

our list goes S, A, B, C, with F being last, we skip D. To me, this is best case scenario C. Yeah. And that's looking at a pretty holistic view of it. If I was looking at this in just a home gym context, I would say for most people this would be an F. Maybe we should put it in an F for now with the possibility to move up to see if we end up with

a lot of Fs. Then we have we ever came across one? This would be a tier list if we didn't rough up some feathers. Have we ever came across when in a home gym tour ever? Not yet. I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will. That speaks something for it right there.

Right. And also, you know, people that are a little heavier into the West Side Conjugate training style typically have training crews too. And that's where, again, in a home gym setting, this just isn't as useful if that's the style you're doing. Yep. I do think the home gym context is important to the list. And that's probably what helps.

frame that there again it was one of the first specialty bars i bought for massonomics gym yeah we've got that one forever because i also like to uh open up the opportunities for whatever lifting anyone wants to do with any kind of gym or with any kind of bar i'll get to some other bars on the list that i've even have bought even way more recently that i'll still probably want to rank just about as low as that for the home gym because i'm like yeah don't buy that for your home gym and ones that i spent like a lot of money on recently even and i would still say yeah probably uh that goes way lower on the list okay we'll go with f for now yeah oh god we got a lot of good bars on here what do i want to go with next

there's a lot i want to say but i haven't used some of these so i feel like i'm not the best one to bring it up let's go with actually you know what this list is making me realize is how much of not a specialty bar guy i am uh because i just don't use many of these all. Let's go with a football bar or a Swiss bar or whatever you prefer to use as your here's what I think is maybe interesting in comparison after coming off the camber bar football bar relatively easy to store in your home gym yep in comparison I don't know that it has that many more uses than the camber bar if I'm being honest about that I'd like to think that it does i'm not sure that it does and obviously you could bench with it and it's

got all the different grips so it's just inherently built in a lot of uses if you you know you say oh i've got three different bench widths then i overhead press i've got three different overhead press widths i use it to do skull crushers so i've got three different skull crusher widths not that on a regular bar you literally can put your you have an infinite number of widths i guess also so but you have different hand positions too though yeah yeah yeah Oh, I lean towards a, it wouldn't, I lean towards a B or a C on this. I, I, I've almost never used one. Just, I don't know, I just, my shoulders, nothing.

None of that stuff ever bugs me. And I feel like that's maybe one of the big benefits of this is it gives your shoulders a little bit of a break. Right. But that's never been an issue for me at all. I like the idea of, uh, Dave Tate, Elite FTS, use discount code mass 10, the new one with. Oh, I like that too. That's super enticing. I would have had more time there.

I wanted to try one of his prototypes there, actually. It seemed really interesting, the logic behind that. Yeah, Big Lisa said you could throw it on top of your rack and use it for pull-up, different pull-up spots, actually, too. That would be a creative use in the home gym. Hammer curl bar is another use. I do feel like there is a decent amount of uses there. I think there's a pretty good amount of utility,

and also it does have that thing of you can use it to work around an injury. I mean, I could lean slightly towards a B on this one. Yeah, I could see a B because I do think a big part of some of these specialty bars in the home gym is how many different things can you use it for. You can bench with the camber bar that we talked about too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've done that before. I mean, you can do any type of pressing movement.

Right. I mean, even, I mean, you can do rows and stuff like that with it too. And they're usually not that expensive either, you know. That's true, too. Which is another thing to consider, especially when you're talking at a home gym, like, so you're talking. You can usually get like a couple hundred bucks and get a pretty good one. Yeah, and then also relatively affordable. So, yeah, I think I think B is a pretty safe spot for it.

Yeah, that's good. Okay. Next one up on the list. We're going to go, oh, we're going to go a classic one. How about the easy, the silver easy curl bar? Yes. Non-rackable type. Yep.

The one that infamously left in every home gym by the Easy Curl Bar Ferry, almost a requirement to own a home gym. You asked about the Camber Bar, have we ever seen it in a home gym? I'm like, no, not in the tours we've done hardly, I don't think. The Easy Curl Bar, you almost rarely ever see it not in a home gym. It's hard to do a home gym tour that doesn't have an easy curl bar. Yes. Yes.

Very cheap, because they're free. they just, they pop out of thin air. Yep. Very space efficient. They take a, virtually, they're leaning in a corn, any corn, you can lean them in any corn you want to. Kind of pieces of shit, but they work. Also, there's not that much weight ever going on it.

So it doesn't really matter. Right. I actually think it's, I don't know why. It's just the, the vibes. It's kind of a pretty, it's, it's, it's a important piece of a home gym. Oh, no one, you can take someone that has no idea about a home gym and they're like like, oh, curl bar, nice.

You know, like that's, that one will stick out to them as being something relevant. I do not dislike easy curl. I do not dislike doing curls on the easy curl bar. I've just added those back into the program here. It's been a nice little break since I've done it. I don't know. What tier do you think for the easy curl bar?

If you could really slight, this is one where you can really slice and dice it a number of ways. I'm an A or a B on this. I mean, I'd feel very comfortable. Let's put it out in the A because I think it's like for a home gym, it's like you've got to have this stupid thing. Okay, yeah. Actually, again, the home gym context part, I mean, yeah,

it is kind of a classic part of a home gym here. Yeah, you got to pump out some arms and your home gym is. You know, for like the people that aren't powerlifters that just started a home gym, it's probably the only thing they have. They're like, yeah, give me an easy curl bar. We're set. Right. Yeah, I got a standard, a barbell that only takes standard one inch plates and an easy.

Yeah. Here we go. Okay. I like that. Let's do one more here. Then we'll take a little break. Big a little on a little. Next up, I'm going to go with.

Ooh. I'm going to go with the, I'm going to go. Okay. I'm going to do. Now I'm going to do this. Okay. Let's go with an open trap bar. open trap bar and there's a lot of people that's interesting because there again when we go to

gym tours we see these and a lot of the home gyms we go into i think it might be close to 50% of the home gym tours we've done have the rep open trap bar in them and then yeah and then the other like 20% have the kabuki one and then there's just a few other random trap bars that pop up but the rep one has i mean when went to california did every gym have the rep open trap bar in it? Yes. I think it did. We went to like six in a row with it. It was crazy. They all did. I've never used the rep one. It's actually pretty high in my wish list of things that I'm considering buying. I use the kabuki one pretty extensively for, God, I don't know, probably six months. I enjoyed it a lot. I mean, obviously it's significantly easier than a deadlift. But sometimes

it's nice to do something a little different, get away from the old conventional deadlift. And, uh, The open part is nice because most of them have the jack built in, which makes it very convenient for use. You just tip it back and you got it, you're ready to load plates on. I don't know. This might be an A tier item for me, actually. I never see people using them.

Does no, whenever you're using it in the gym. I feel like the Kabuki one when you first got it, got used a decent amount. And I didn't use it. It's like the first year and a half, two years. And then I came back to it later. I, all those people we see it in their gyms,

I feel like I never see them using it. That it's just in the corner somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, kind of. You're not totally wrong. Just because I say that doesn't mean that it's true either, but that's just the vibe I get from it sometimes that I'm like, and I like that the Kabuki one we have is nice,

it's a really nice bar. The jack part of it is, you know, that is the best thing they ever did. to trap bars was make it so they couldn't stand, freestand on their own and load that way. My bias of not liking trap bars that much

is probably shining through. But I was also one of the first specialty bars. You know, we have two trap bar different. We have the open trap bar and I have a regular, I have an actual trap bar. Not a, yeah. No, I have a trap bar. There's a hex, hex bar.

I have the, the diamond. shape trap bar, the old school one, that's all on one plane. That is the hardest trap bar to use. Aren't the handles on that one just crazy? They are very small. Yeah, didn't you say it just feels like it's whipping through your hands? Because I went through a streak there where I was doing like a little stupid trap bar competition with even town.

Yep. And loading it up, I don't know, like maybe 800 pounds or something like that. I remember you guys are over 700. Yeah. And it would, it's like a 24 millimeter handle on it or something like that. And it's a completely even handle where the handle is even with the weight. So there's no balance. There's no self-balance.

Yeah, there's no self-balance to the thing. Uh-huh. So you've got to be very careful about where you're holding or it gets wonky in that way too. That being said, I just don't like trap bars that much. But, okay, in a home gym, some of them. It's like you can use it as like a cambered squat bar. That's what the rep one tries to sell you as is you can use it as a camer bar. I'm not buying that.

You can use it as almost like a, you know, like a yoke or something. You know, you can do all this stuff. You can use it to do like rows and. Yeah, I've never seen anyone do any of those things ever before with a truck. Well, other than the people like maybe doing a review and saying, you can do this with it and you can do that with it. Okay. Like, yeah, they checked the marketing box for it can do a lot of things. But then everyone's like, oh, glad.

we did that one and then they all just realize that yeah we're not we're not going to use yeah uh to me uh to me i'm not i don't feel that strongly about it i can live with b i can live with b for now all right we'll come back to this i'm fine at b we and this list maybe we'll have a little moving around once uh yeah also some of those open trap bars are kind of expensive as specialty bars are they can be i mean that kibuki one was very i mean wasn't that like six or seven hundred dollars something like that sure yeah i think the rep one see that's the other thing with the rep one is it's 400, which, again, not cheap, but also not terrible, actually. Yeah, that's not too bad.

Yeah. Okay. Should we do a little supporting our supporting members? Yes. Okay. This is a relatively new segment to the podcast. It's a segment where we like to give back to those that support us. If you're unfamiliar with our supporting membership program, get freaking familiar with it.

Head over to massanomics.com slash join. That's where you can get signed up to become a supporting member. You get in on our pre-show. It's the only way you get in our greasy pre-show. That's the show before the show. It's what we put out there for live listeners before we start recording the podcast each week. The only way you can listen to that is by becoming a supporting member because it is never recorded. And it's where we bring out all our deepest, darkest secrets that nobody else gets to know is on the pre-show.

It's also the way you listen along to the podcast live, like we have this group listening with us tonight, chiming in as we're doing this tier list. There's a discount code special for supporting members to use in our website. A whole bunch of stuff, really. And most importantly, we have a big crew mailer that we're putting some, wrapping up some touches on right now. Everyone's going to get a little something in the mail from us. We're going to send out to everyone that's a supporting member once we draw that line in

the sand. I would say within the upcoming few weeks, we're going to let you know when exactly that line in the sand is. so you maybe have a couple weeks time left. Get signed up now. Also, if you're an existing supporting member and your address has changed recently, please let us know so we can have that ready to go

when we send that mail or out. This week's supporting members that we want to shout out. Big Chris Mark competed in a strongman show. Big Colton also competed in Beast Battle 3 down in Crew Falls and he won a couple of the moving events that looked like there. Yeah, look good. Yeah, Big Jason, Man Who Parks and Jim, started his new podcast called Rent, Rep, Rant, Repeat.

Check that out anywhere you listen to podcasts. And there's a new Hall of Fame achievement unlocked. If you become a Hall of Fame member in the Masonomics Supporting Member Hall of Fame Challenge Card program, Massonomics Instagram officially does follow you on Instagram now. That is a new supporting member unlock. Maybe the most important one so far. Yeah, I went through and made sure we were following all of those

people because we should be and then i also on the flip side of it i went through the list and it's like it's changed in the last uh 12 years of using instagram where it used to be following a lot of people that we don't know that are just like lift a lot of weight yeah that doesn't interest me so much anymore if we've had them on the podcast and we kind of know them then i'm very interested in those people still if they're real strong if people we kind of know in the community i like that that, but it's not just random strangers that we have no massonomics tie to whatsoever. Right. It doesn't really pique my interest as much anymore.

Yeah. Yeah. Times change, man. The times they are a change in. So thank you to our supporting members. I would say if you're also a supporting member and you're in their Discord, which is the only way you get in their Discord. And you've got any friends that are also supporting members that do anything,

they can put it themselves in there but some of them don't think to do that so you can shout out for them you know make sure they get recognized like Scants here is saying Big Jordan won the open men class of Atlantic Atlantic Canada's strongest man I feel like that comes up every other month

that Jordan competes in Atlantic Canada's strongest man that must be a bi-monthly event I know that that's not actually true It's just different names of events that seem somewhat similar to me. But I feel like that naming that I know I've done that one before. So Jordan must, he's probably won that event like eight times by now. He's like the eight-time return champ, Jordan. Yeah.

He keeps, we'll see what Scant says, how many time champ. Maybe he's like seven, eight-time champ of Atlantic Canada's strongest man. But yeah, shout out your friends if they are do something to make it on supporting members. We want to make sure that they get their recognition. So if you know about it and you know they might not mention it themselves, you get in there and shout it out for them so we can get them their recognition that they are deserved. Now, should we do a certified training facility of the week? Yeah, I'm just looking around here.

I kind of feel like we're due to head back to the Midwest. What about South Dakota? Yeah, I like that. What about the Klendon? Ooh, I like that. Okay. I like that. Let me put this on the list of certified training.

Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? It's the certified training facility of the week. So, Massonomics.com slash certified if you want to get on the map, it's you get a certified training facility flag. You get a certified training facility certificates, some special certified training facility stickers.

and you get on their map. If you haven't checked this map yet, it's massonomics.com slash certified. There's 330 gyms in there. Also, if you're just traveling, looking for somewhere to train, you might see some crew in there that are open. You know, it says if they're open to visitors.

So check it out. All right. The Clenden in South Dakota. Big Garrett. I'm familiar with this gym. Only through the internet. Not personally. I was going to say you haven't been there, have you?

Not personally, but, uh, I've never given it a close, deep examination like we're going to right now. So looking in photo one, this is a basement gym, correct, Tanner? I think it is. And we got the horse stall mats. That's how you get the basement smelling good. You got to get those horse stall mats down there. We have a rack.

It is a photos are a little low-res. It looks like a six-post rack, I believe, right? Yeah. Is it a flat-foot rack? Yes, it is a flat foot. I think it's a Titan T-2. I think it's a Titan T2 rack. There we go.

Sounds about right. I think it's a Titan T2 rack. I mean, there's a bench in there, and of course it's got to be a rep bench. Like, I mean, that has to be a rep bench. Yeah. That's what everyone has, and that's what it looks like. A lot of massonomics flags and banners. No shortage of those.

A lot of memorabilia in there. I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Just in the first photo, I'm seeing like 10 massonomics, flags, banners hanging up. Got the license plate. Yeah, he's got the Arnold license plate and the MSS and MX. And then Barbill Rescue made the cut too. So a good company there. Geez, I guess they'll let anyone in there these days.

Seems like it. We got the Bowflex adjustable dumbbells down in the bottom and a couple of smaller fixed dumbbells. Maybe that's the 20 pound one there or something. He's got the, looks like the 45 degree back extension there. Is that what I'm seeing? Oh, yeah. Yep. Looks like a pretty decent one.

and then I think we got a stationary bike for a little cardio action. Oh, and then is there a rep, a flat bench laying over here too? Do you see that white one? Is that what that is? It's sitting, oh, yeah, it's vertical there. Yeah, so there's two benches. This is a two bench gym. Yeah.

It's not a couch behind that bench then, too? There is a couch back there. Just that's for between sets. I think so. You've got to have somewhere to sit. Is that a red Syracote bar up on the rack then, too? Oh, actually, yes, there was a bar up there. Yeah, that does appear to be a red

Sericote bar up there. I'm not sure what bar that is. And then the rack does have, it does have, oh, I guess, SSB up there. The rack does have some type of a lap pull-down cable type system in it.

I'm just not sure. I'm pretty sure that SSB bar was handed off from Antony to Garrett in the parking lot of the Watertown Pizza Ranch. Oh, was it? Yes, that was when we got. got done eating and they were like trying to disassemble it to fit into uh into garrett's vehicle

if i remember right yes yeah so something like that a little early so i missed the transaction yeah okay so what we got you ready for photo two here yeah oh boy okay so photo two i think this is turned around like in the other direction now we got uh we got some there's that 45 degree you said yeah yeah and see it better yeah and that's on a treadmill actually actually there's a treadmill there also it looks like that looks like a huck fin skit waiting to happen doing reverse 45 degree back raises on a treadmill yeah with some dumbbells in there for good measure yeah um we got a recliner because we got to have more places to sit still so that's good to have between sets yeah more massanomics memorabilia on the wall also some vikings and star wars

items uh you know a good mix there plate storage yeah plate storage i'm looking what is that is that like like a little split squat stand that thing right next to the plate storage oh yeah that's probably what that is yep yep and then there's a barbell jack there too right you don't see a ton of little split squat stand so that's interesting and then we have the wall control behind that red wall control um we got a speaker the mass nomics uh podcast is playing on the tv in the background as it should be i recognize wool in that hair from anywhere yeah um yeah i think we've covered most of the bases looking pretty good there is one thing i was wondering else about it though like do you think you could get strong there oh hell yeah i get hello strong in the clenden

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Their little limelight. They got to go. Go back to the shadows from whence they came. They probably haven't even listened to last week's episode yet. They've got to get caught up. That's true. Quit. you're getting a week ahead.

Put in the cart before the horse. Putting the cart before the frigging horse is what's going on there. While you kick the last of those out, I'm going to look at our list and see what's next up to rank. Put a tier or two. We have, I'm going to go with, let's see here. I'm going to go with, bamboo

slash earthquake slash tsunami bar kind of just lumping several bars into one for the sake of this tier list and I like all these bars I own them all

I've used the earthquake bar for a long time I just got the tsunami bar recently in Massanics gym I like them all I don't think they're going to rank very high you're taking my bias out of it, I don't think I would rank them all that high for a home gym application. Yeah, I would say it goes back to the thing again

of like, are you having shoulder issues and things like that? And if you are, it actually just kind of might be something that you really should have. Right, right. But, and I actually do, I actually do like it when I've used it at the gym. It's just something you have to be kind of intentional

with how you program and making sure that you're using it. Yeah, it's weird. for me, I recommend them for people quite a bit. You know, I'm like, oh, you should give it a try. I recommend it when people are in MassDomics gym. I'm like, give this a try. You know, try this out, see what you think.

And it's kind of wild. It's fun also. It's fun because you're not wrecking yourself with weight, but you're also managing to make the lift. Like, I'm speaking of benching here mostly. You're managing to make it incredibly difficult with minimal amounts of weight. And you'll hit muscle groups and little tiny muscles that you sort of didn't know you had. when you use these things.

Yeah. I don't know if I can put it very high in good conscious, though, just because of the special nature and that some people might not have much of a use for it too. It's very, hence in the name of the specialty bar, it is very specialized of its applications. It's, in my opinion,

it's one of the most novel of the entire list. As in, you know, it's not just straight weight that you just throw on and feel. like it is but again like i to a lot of people that's not a bonus it's like well that's right you know yeah i i i love him and i almost think it's like a c to me on the for the sake of the list i could see that i could see that we'll go with that for now we'll go with that for now and see where we uh see we end up here but it's definitely not an f i was i was either b or c on it right um i'm fine i'm fine with c for right now

I don't know. Maybe it is a B. I can see that, I guess, too. I don't know. Let's go with an IPF spec power bar. The IPF spec power bar. So it could be different brands. I guess we talk about the Aliko because we've got that one. I think it's a little overrated in the whole scheme of it. It's some nice bars that are IPF spec. I guess if you compete in that federation, that makes a difference if you compete in powerlifting

in that federation that matters and you're especially if you're highly competitive it matters even more or you just are very serious about you competing and now you've now whittled the pool down to tens of people globally tens of people that have home gyms that are in that boat

it's not as it's definitely not in the Texas power bar category to me I think the chewy bar is a way nicer bar than they are still I think for those people for some of those people I mentioned

it's a great bar choice if you're Jose or even basement Brandon he competes in those federations and has a really nice home gym and likes nice equipment I get it while they would want that and compete with that

and use it and train the way you're going to compete but considering how expensive some of them are and the lack of really needing them for most people I would give it a C also on that yeah you're also missing another piece of the puzzle and this is I mean outside of the price a lot of these outside of like your handsu options tend to be very expensive

what's rogues I guess the rogue 20 kilo Ohio power bar that one's only 350 yeah So that one's actually relatively affordable. If you go to stainless, you're at 445. So not terrible there. But, yeah, like you're saying, some of the Aliko's, ones like that, can be insanely expensive, like over $1,000 for people that aren't aware, which is most the home gym community, which we're talking about in general, doesn't even compete in

anything at all. And then in which case, I'm like, I don't know why, I mean, they shouldn't care about that. No, you shouldn't. But to me, the ultimate downside and why I, outside of the price why I just really dislike these bars is they are a pain in the ass to squat with you have to have especially depending on what rack yeah if you have a rack is it the 49 inch with rack you know the rogue with rack I think I have a clean walkout and it is damn near

impossible to walk out of the rack without hitting it and I don't want to buy a barbell that a power bar that I can't do squats with and I cannot the last thing I want to think about when I'm doing heavy sets of squats or heavy singles is oh I I hope I don't hit this so I can set up correctly. Like, I hope I don't run into the rack. And that is what happens. And so to me, just the fact that it's a power bar that I can't use it for all exercises, it's at best a C tier.

I agree with you 100% in that. But then the comment I see people leave, like on the internet then is, oh, it's, you should clean up your walkout then. I mean, you have a margin of error of like a half an inch. Like a non-necess, like that, that is. would be on like perfecting your walkout to an unnecessary degree that I feel like you're almost using more energy just to like perfectly to stop any lateral movement to right like I mean and you don't and you in competition you don't have to worry about that

right but you have to in training which is like uh and like yeah I get it like don't have a walkout that requires inches but like like my my 29 millimeter tech is power bar I don't know is the color on that thing maybe two inches wide yeah I've maybe in my life enough that it's no problem I've maybe in my life hit the rack twice ever. Like it's an extreme oddity if I'm hitting the rack with that. Like it just doesn't happen. And I mean, we're talking to color that might be two inches wide.

And that might be even less than that. It's just an IPF collar is typically, I don't know, is it a half an inch wide, a quarter of an inch wide? Right. And yeah, they suck in usability and a lot of times suck in price. So I'm a C on that one. Yep, I think that's fair. Got to do it.

Texas dead left bar. the Texas deadlift bar so a specialty bar if you consider a deadlift bar a specialty bar uh really the the topic here is any deadlift bar i'm saying texas deadlift bar again because i think especially in deadlift bars texas is just the gold standard in deadlift bars well it is like that's what people use in meats isn't it am i missing something here or is that just do people use other colors and meats other bars and meats um i suppose there's some out there where they do, but I don't know. Also, it's just

if you like deadlifting, even if you're not competing, like the deadlift bar is fun to use. Even if you're never competing in powerlifting, the deadlift bar is still fun to use, I think. You know, it's not like the IPF power bar where you're like, ah, this is just more fun to use even though I'm never going to use this in competition. It's kind of the same thing.

So a Texas deadlift bar does have an additional fun component if you like deadlifting, you want to just like bump that number up to play around with that to get your deadlift up. But you don't need it. No, it's not a necessity by any means. You can deadlift.

You can do a lot of deadlifting without it. I would say that for sure. So where I do think it's the gold standard in deadlift bars, it's definitely not up there with the top power bars to me in the tier list. just because you don't really need the deadlift bar quite as bad as you would, a nice power bar.

So for that reason, I think it's more of a B or A, I guess, something like that. Yeah, I was going to say A or B tier. And where I think this really varies is by the individual on this one, maybe more than anything. If you actually don't like deadlifting that much, and then especially if you have no plans of competing, then it's like, it'd be hard to recommend this one in your first three bars you should buy for your gym. Right.

If you do plan on competing and it happens to be in a federation that allows deadlift bars, I would say, yeah, this one's probably pretty high in your list. But if you plan on competing, you're doing like USAPL meets or something, then again, this also doesn't really have much carryover or helpfulness to your situation. So maybe because it does depend on a very specific scenario, maybe that makes it a B. Yeah, I think that's good. But we're talking to home gym in limited space. Yep.

I think B is good. I'm looking at this, though, and seeing the chewy bar at A and the Texas deadlift bar at B. I'm not sure how that sits with me. Yeah, I don't love that. Maybe when we get it all done, we'll just re-look everything just to see how we're looking. Yep, yep. Okay, let's do a spider bar. Oh, God.

I mean, everything I said about the camber bar, I would just say, I'll break it. with the spider bar. It's just like that with handles on it. I mean, really. I don't know. Can we, how about this? Can we remove the camer bar from the list and put the spider bar in its replacement in F?

Because I don't want to see those next to each other in F. It's actually, it's, when you look at this list, it's like, oh, when you look at this picture tan, it's like, that's the same bar except the next one has handles on it. Like, let's the difference, isn't it? Yeah. I almost feel like the camer bar can just go away. and now we're talking now because the camera bar i felt a little bit bad about putting it out spider bar i feel pretty comfortable putting it in now okay okay fine let the camber bar just

sit on the sideline for a minute here it might catch an opportunity to appear again yeah uh maybe camer bar caught many too many strays that spider bar needed i didn't really don't even until right now how similar those bars actually are though wow i used one at crew falls this year i saw that was the first i've ever seen one in person yeah it wasn't a nicely you know it wasn't no it looks like a little homemade DIY project when you see one yeah I think that's a good place for the spider bar they're expensive dude wow it's $650 who yeah I think given those away how about the a buffalo bar so we could say a duffalo bar as an example but just the bow bar the curve bar the buffalo the buffalo

the duffalo. We have, I have a duffalo and I also have, I don't know, I think I bought it from like West Side Barbell or something like that even actually. Yeah, that one's been a long time version. I actually kind of liked that one even too. And I like the, it had a little less aggressive curve to it. And I don't mind that bar. I haven't used much of either of those.

Those are really popular for a while, I feel like. That was, I mean, because we're talking. about a lot of the stuff is from the era of when the exciting things in home gyms were bars. Like that really was and I kind of have figured out most of the known issues in that region of the industry and there's not a whole

lot of innovation or newness happening there anymore. It's been actually a very long time since I've used one of these. Sometimes I think it'd be kind of fun to have that on bench, really work that range of motion. Yep. For a couple of training blocks which I mean would be beneficial.

It would be helpful. But I just don't, and squat, I don't care about it on squat at all. I don't have any issues gripping the bar. Right. When I'm squatting. So like to me, that is of no value. And that's what makes it hard for me to have this barbell

is something that would essentially be like a bench only bar. Like I would lean towards a C on this for me personally in my home gym. yeah i like it uh i'm just looking at the other ones i could see that because i like i really like the earthquake bar and i actually do like the bow bars and i go between i what do you typically i use it for i both squat and bench i probably if i think about it i've used it equally for both over the years what's your primary reasoning for using it on squat that it puts absolutely like that's um like you talk about the camber bar someone might use that because it all that stress off of your uh and shoulders the bow bar is just like the perfect amount for me

that it like removes that shoulder uh stress so i always like that and the way that the weight will sit it actually will put it a little far more far forward so you get even like a little bit of a safety squat oh really okay i didn't know that part of it yeah because the i mean i suppose you can yeah but that has been your experience so where yeah okay yeah and i always just i just like I like that bar I could actually see using it again now the more I'm talking about it but

they're again in the home gym they're not too bad price like especially the cheaper ones they're not too bad price so price isn't terrific Bell's a steel one is $315 bucks I mean not cheap but it's also something you could easily add to your gym

I couldn't put it above a B and I couldn't put it in F so I think it's a B or a C yeah I would, I mean, just in my experience, I would still probably pick a bamboo bar over this, which is also in C category, but, yeah, I think that's a pretty good spot for it. Okay, up next, we're going to talk, okay, we have, we wrote Olympic bar here. Were we talking like Olympic lifting barbell?

Yeah, that must be a dual, dual ring mark bar. We don't have to do everything on the list either, too, if there's any of that. With no center neural. Yeah, no center neural. See, to me, I can make this quick. one like to me again this comes down to your training style but to me that's a C like that's a C bar yeah um I think that that's a C also I would have a hard time unless someone's like really into CrossFit or Olympic lifting I'd have a hard time even actually

making that as the recommendation for a bar that someone gets you know I guess if you're really but if you're really into CrossFit and Olympic lifting it would be the bar you would get oh it would be yes that would then go to it would replace this that would be like the S tier you know know, a good version of that would be almost like an S-tier bar for your list. But it's just, it's not really the background we come from. It is. And it's also funny, like, how many people that we interact with where, like, that's also not the background that they come from. Right. You know, I don't know really anyone that that's super high on their priority list.

Yeah, I think our list, it gets to go down to sea. That's what we get to decide. All right. That's our list. Dang it. Okay. The Walmart. crappy barbell with the hex hex key

and I know we talked about the Texas power bar how that you know their roll pin to end is of no issue well the the crappy crappy barbell that is a little bit of an issue and just the overall terrible nerling

sometimes diameter is like bigger than a squat bar for some reason and just a piece of junk bar usually have it for free. They're really junkie. They're really crappy bars once you're used to get bars. Usually can only tolerate a couple hundred pounds of weight before they start bending and breaking. We have mini bent. They all bend eventually. I would give the, I mean, those belong in F tier, I think. I 100% agree. There's just,

it's just too, even if you're on a budget, if you live near any major metropolitan area, you can hop on marketplace and find a used barbell that even a heavily used barbell for many of the known manufacturers is going to be better. than these crappy ones with the bolt in the end. Yeah. Those are junk. I'm just trying to find a picture. Here we go.

I've got to find the right picture for this. Cheap, piece of crap, silver barbell. I'm typing in piece of crap barbell. It's not coming up. Here we go. Okay. You guys eat pieces of crap barbells for breakfast. All right, got that in there.

My pick. Oh, damn it. Let's close my freaking tab. Here we go. Bring it back up. And take your time. Take your time, Internet. I can just pick one.

It doesn't matter. We can go back and forth. I'll say the squat bar. Brand not, brand not particular. Who else makes squat bars? I know what other people do, like besides sex power bars, but does rogue rep? Yeah, Rogue and Rep both make them.

And we're talking to squat bars here. We're talking about a 32 millimeter bar. Typically, do they all weigh 55 pounds? Well, there's other old-school ones out there that weigh even more than that. But I think that the lightest you can find is 55 pounds. There's even bigger ones like the Mastodon bar and some things that go back. That's if you're a big multipli lifter and your squat in 1100 pounds, they got even bigger heavy.

They'll say that the Texas Squatidon. Swat bar is too wippy for them. Really? So then they need the ultra, you know, the ultra-heavy squat bar. But, okay, for the sake of ours. One question I have on this. You know, the IPF bars are super stiff. Yeah, 29mm, yeah, 29mm, but they're super stiff.

You know, the collars are really thin, so the weights closer to the center there. Yeah. Do those, like, I'm just trying to think, like, when Ray Williams loads that up. Yeah, those will bounce all over the place. Okay. You get really wippy on him with a thousand? Yes. Okay.

Or him or the better, the vanilla gorilla when he was using that in, uh, squatting like 1100 pounds. It looked like, uh, it looked like a toy. Okay. And that's what he said. Like the oscillation of the bar was insane when he would walk that out. Okay. I mean, it makes sense.

It does make sense. Yeah. Uh, squat bar. Got to be lower than the. deadlift bar oh absolutely gotta be lower than the dead left bar i think for the application the actual application of it for a home gym i don't think it's an f i think it's a c yeah i'd go there to yeah i mean they're high quality items oh yeah it's just depending on i have i own four of them you know like i don't even know how that happened but i own four of them so yeah i obviously like

having them it can be a very limited use application um the thing i don't like about them that throws me off is i get used to the way i line up my my hands on squat is typically i put my uh my thumbs on the edge of the nerling you know where it's where it stops in the middle yeah and that's how narrow i go in well squat bars tend to be almost completely nerled and so that spot's not there so then what It annoys me as I'm like, oh, I guess I just go in like an inch or two from the ring mark. And I can't get quite as exact.

It's a little more of a guessing game. And that's what I don't like about them. The 32 millimeter that doesn't really bug me. You know, it is different, but it's fine. I tend to forget that it's a 55 pound bar when I'm using it multiple times.

You know, the last squat session I had at Brice's how I was using his Texas squat bar. There was multiple times where he was like, yeah, this is a 55 pound bar. I'm like, ah, damn it. I forgot again.

So it is nice to use them if you're competing. to use it a little bit before competing because the 32 millimeters does just feel different on my back. I don't really care about the length or whatever. The nerling part of it doesn't matter to me based on where I put my hands but the diameter on my back definitely sits differently.

I still think it's a C though. Yeah. I agree. For the home gym. Okay. Next on the list. Let's go with an axle. An axle bar. I like an axle because you can do a lot of stuff with an axle it's pretty inexpensive they're usually even lighter than 45 pounds it

might actually be one of the cheapest items on this list right yeah might be one of the cheapest items it's can do a lot of you know you can do everything you with it you could with a regular barbell but it gives you a variation on all those same lifts uh grip it's a grip tool at the same time if you compete in strong man it's a element of any strong man yeah it's almost a complete necessity to have an axa bar a lot of people that complete you know have home gyms aren't competing in strong man uh i think it's very versatile i think it's a b to me i think it's a b i think i'd go with that too i mean just value alone it's pretty hard to argue with it feels like it's like a bar that's just made for pressing you know yeah doing some deadlifts with um kind of giving me the sales

picture almost feeling like i need to get one of these in my gym yeah yeah i can see yep there's there's a lot of a lot of pros to the axle i guess all that i said a lot of positive stuff and it's like yeah it's a b but i'm like i don't know of it well but you also don't need one by any means i mean i i've right only is one a handful of times of my entire life like it's is it needed to get strong no if you're doing strong man should you have it yes yeah um but yeah not a necessity by any means okay how about um Yoke bar or a safety squat bar, Elite FTSSSB, a thousand different other companies that may come, but I guess it's an SSB or an SS Yoke bar as the, is classically, we've listed it

as our favorite specialty bar, if we're not counting like deadlift bar as a specialty bar, the SS Yoke bar very high on our list. We've actually got a video out about that. It's not that expensive. You can get the SS Yoke Bar with the right deal. Yeah. If you play the deal right, use code Massenomics, you know, save 10% on it. Right now on Elite FTS, it is showing, uh, actually I don't think you can use our code on it.

A little insider. I think if it's not on sale, you could use code table talk, though, and save like 20% on it. So that brings it down to like, well, if that actually saves it 20%, that brings it down to $320. A lot of times it ships for free. like yeah I mean if you're watching on a LeafTS you can get these for under 350 and at that point I mean any bar under 350 I think is totally fair what do you what tier do you think it's in I mean to me personally in a home gym uh this was the this was the first specialty bar I bought and if if that was to say anything I mean to me that makes it an S tier item right there like when I decided

to add a specialty bar to my gym this is the first spot I went to it is the specialty bar I use the most commonly. I think it's very well constructed. It's comfortable. To me, it is the industry standard as far as these bars go. I mean, there's a lot of competitors to it. But I love the SS Yoke bar. I think it's an S-tier bar.

I'm good with that. I'm just battling in my head. I'm like, okay, the Texas Power Bar is obviously S-tier. put in it but then if I think about it enough I'm like well nothing else is s tier then to me if it's if the texas power bar is s tier because the texas power bar is definitely what I would recommend to get before the s s yoke bar you know that would 10 times out of 10 be higher on the list yeah but I guess where I'm looking at this is it's the you know this list is the home gym bar tier list right as far as types of bars go you have your more traditional barbells and then you have your specialty bars and to me this is so it's like the king of the specialty bar. The specialty bars, and that's why it belongs up there. Maybe the deadlift bar belongs in A then. I could very easily see that. Like, that was, because if you said, I don't know, that might not be right to logic.

I mean, but even how my own gym experience went, it went, I got a power bar, the 29 million Texas power bar. The first specialty I bought bar I bought was the SS Yoke bar. And if you want to say the third specialty bar I bought was the, or the second specialty bar I bought was the Texas deadlift bar. like that is kind of the trifecta. So that would push me towards an A ranking just based on that. Let's put that in the A. I like that getting away from those other three and B. Those three and B belong,

that look good next to each other now, I think. Yeah. And actually I also, sorry, I do have a curl bar too. So you kind of have the S and A tier. This is actually aligning with my S and A tier items. And I would probably buy a chewy bar if they weren't $700. And that's the other AT bar right now. Right.

Okay. Next on the list, we go the, let's go the shitty, stupid little tricep, but can you find a picture of this so people know what we're talking about? It's the little parallel, it's kind of like a football bar. A miniature football bar. Only if it'd be a football bar and the really crappy easy curl bar that every gym has that the easy curl bar fairy, they got together and had a baby. Do you feel like that's the appropriate one? It's all chromed out. It's like a rectangle that's about two feet wide with two vertical bars.

Also, I like that one because it's got like the one inch spin collars on us. Yeah, that's the bar. The only gym I've ever been, this is actually a funny story about it. The only gym I've ever been to where I actually saw someone using this was Jen Thompson's gym. And they clearly know a thing or two about getting strong and using their strength. Did we use that there? We did. We did try some.

After we got done doing our, our. what was it two board slingshot benching then we moved on to this we did seated tricep overhead tricep extensions with this thing and I mean I did smoke my triceps so there's no doubt about it but it does do the same thing that the Swiss bar does that we're talking about

it takes a plus space yeah it's just a little piece of crap I kind of want to put it in F tier I'm 100% fine with that I think that's a good spot for it not second guessing the time I guess someone was starting a gym and this was their like one of the first three they're talking to me about.

I'm like, whoa, whoa, we'll back up. You're doing this wrong, man. Yes. All right. Next up, we got not a whole lot left. Let's go with a log.

Yeah, strong man log. Can't be as high as the axle, not near as versatile as the axle is. Also, can be stored, depending on the size of your log in your situation, can maybe be stored okay, but still not easily. they suck to store

yeah and uh they do suck um price if you're not competing in strong man there's not much of a use for it i don't know you can do it with camber bar do it with your axel do you know you can get hell of strong without that uh if you're competing in strong man take it seriously you pretty much got to get one eventually because it comes up all the time in competitions

it does look really freaking cool there's no doubt about that maybe the coolest like bar on the list i might I think I have like four of them also. So just by me putting something lower on this list doesn't, you know, by me wanting to put something lower on this list, does that mean I don't like it? Because I have a, I don't know, M.B Power Center log that costs like $1,000.

So. And it's really big and really heavy. Yeah. Yeah, the only thing about logs is there are different sizes. And depending on if you're learning or your strength level, it might require you to have different sizes as time goes on. Yeah. And having multiple logs, as you know, isn't super convenient either.

This one's a bit of a wild card on the list because you could say, is it a bar? I mean, I'm going to say it is for the sake of what we're doing here. If we're going to count, uh, I mean, it has sleeves that you can put weights on. Yeah. It probably out of everything on this list looks the least like a bar, though. I mean, have you seen that spider bar? that's true it's got to be in the C right

yeah I don't think it's an F tier item so no and it's not as good as an axle which we have in B tier so it would have to be in C tier then right right okay how about we talk so the only two power bars that we've done specifically on the list so far well three we have the IPF spec we did the Chewy we did the Texas power bar I think we

We can't skip over one of the big elephants in the room. We've got to do a rogue Ohio power bar. We do. It's at the top of the list for what people recommend when you're getting into the home gym hobby. This is very high on the list of what people like to say. I thought I knew where I think this should go, and the more I think about it, I'm having a second thought on it.

So, okay, it's not an S-tier item. To me, that's easy to say. It's not S-tier. It's a very good barbell. It can never fault anyone for recommending this bar. I'm between an A and a B on it. I just, I don't prefer it as much, but I get why people like it.

It comes in like a thousand different finish options from Bayer Steel, the stainless steel, to Saracote. a black zinc it has a IPF collar option which i don't like but it also has a slightly more standard option with just you know a little bigger collars it's about three hundred dollars which pretty affordable again in the scheme of things um i mean it's hard to say it's hard to recommend against it it's just not my favorite barbell so that's that's i i think it's probably an a I think you could make you could someone other people could make it a case for it being an S because of the value there. It's right up there with the Texas Power Bar. But quite frankly, I don't want to support Rogue that much. No. And I would just, I don't want it to be in the S too. Yeah, I would just always pick a Texas Power Bar over this though. Right. Yeah. Okay. If one popped up on me a marketplace for $100 would I want it? Yeah, I'd want that. But I don't I don't really have any desire to buy one at full price when I could just have a Texas Power Bar instead. Rogue Ohio Power Bar. I've got at least a couple of, I've got. I think two or three of those

I just really it comes down to me I don't want to support Rogue that much I know that's honestly I have enough other things going on yeah I'm like no I don't want to bar market too yeah that's probably honestly

the biggest part of it yeah it's my honest take I just don't want to support them that much they also do their own wonky you know proprietary scale rating testing on all that And I'm like, who really is like buying or caring about, I mean, I get it.

They have to do something to market it and feel good. But I'm like, this whole thing just seems like, what are we actually doing here? Yeah. Last one on the, well, we see if we got some to add before we finish up. But how about a light bar, a women's bar, a 35 pound bar. I guess that's what we're saying, a 35 pound bar or a women's bar, if that's what you call it. Yeah, this again comes down. to one that I don't have any experience with these bars.

I could see how more of like a CrossFit Olympic style training, how this would be beneficial, one for the sizing and then also if you're learning, the lighter weight could be more helpful than a 45. But as far as a home gym scenario, like for me goes, there's, there's of, I mean, this is of no value. Right. You know, if my wife all of a sudden was like, oh, I'm going to start lifting. I want a bar, I'll be like, yeah, I'll buy one right now for you. like we'll get one immediately, but for most people that we're friends with

and talking to, there is no point in having this bar. Well, my thing would be most of the time, even if your wife wants to use it, I mean, if say you're, say it's a female power lifter, they don't use a different bar. Well, yeah, that's why, that's why I'm saying it's coming from a crossfit, like Olympic lifting approach. Right. Like, yeah, otherwise if you're not concerned about like Olympic lifting, I don't even really know why you would need one.

Because aren't they usually, are they 27 millimeter? Are they 25? Yeah, something like, so what category did we put the Olympic lifting bar in? Oh, we have that in the C tier. So this would be an F then. Well, it's either just a lower grade of C or it's an F. You know, like, it can't be any higher than that one. Yeah, it's a 25 millimeter bar.

Wow. So that's really tiny. Also, if you have kids, I guess they could use that. I don't know, most times for a lot of lifts, they can just use the bar to. You know, back when I was a kid, they said, here's a 45 pound bar, go. And you just had to figure it out, you know. That's, and we all, we all raised up just fine. And we turned out just fine.

That's the ultimate test. We turned out fine. So clearly it works. You didn't, you didn't wear a helmet when you rode your bike. You drank water from a garden hose, and you lift it whatever damn bar they put in front of you. And we all turned out just fine. Look at us here. What else would people say?

We drank water out of a garden hose. We didn't tell our parents where we were going. We showed up when it was dark. We didn't have these cell phones everywhere. We didn't have the Internet. Protecting us from dangers. Giving us the answers to things. Our gas had lead in it.

and we turned out just fine except for the serial killers from the lead of gas yeah cars didn't have airbags we didn't wear seat belts a lot of people died but those of us that survived turned out just fine drinking and driving was barely illegal it was almost you just looked

the other direction when it happens and we turned out just fine except for everyone that died from drinking and driving but the ones I did we got why you did it we understood it there was a mutual understanding And those of us that made it, we turned out just fine. Yeah.

We smoked wherever the hell we wanted. And we all turned out just fine, except for those of us that died from it. But the rest of us were fine. Well, some of us are fine. The casualties weren't fine, but the rest of us are fine. And the rest of us, we turned out just fine. Yeah, I don't see any downsides here. I don't really want to put it in an F.

I don't think it belongs with those other ones. Here. We can just leave it off the list, too. Let's do that. If the camber bar can't make it, then the 35-pound bar being on this list. Can you keep it off to the edge with the camber bar? I remember back when we used to treat a camer bar like a real bar

and put it on the list. We didn't just omit it from the list altogether. Because a bar that looks exactly like it was never there. is that all of them then do we get them all yeah do we want to add anything else okay so let's look at let's start at the bottom list f tier spider bar shitty ass bar with the bolt in the end and shouldy ass trice bar with the spinny lock collar things those are your f tier bars i feel good about those i think that's a pretty good list yeah yeah i think those all uh all belong there i like that okay good f tier yeah solid f tier see

tier we have the bamboo bar the i i'm just going to say an alico ipf power bar yeah uh a camber bar a olympic buffalo bar we're calling that oh yeah there you go yeah an olympic lifting bar a texas squat bar and a log i feel i'm good with the log the squat bar the olympic lifting bar the ipf bar the two in that list that i like are the bow bar and the earthquake bar. See, what I was going to say is the one that sticks out to me a little bit is the earthquake bar. It's kind of a wild card because I still think for a lot of people in a home gym would be a wild purchase to make, but I'd feel good about moving that to the B.

Yeah, I like that. And the other bar, I just don't use it enough to have a strong opinion there. So I could see if you were like, no, this belongs in B tier. I would be against that. I like it better in the, in the, I'm just thinking of the grouping, and I like it better in that group. That's the main thing looking at there is I think that those bars are both better than the other C tier bars there.

So then B tier, and I like this B tier because there's a good amount of novelty and variety in it. We have the football bar, an open trap bar, an axle bar, an earthquake bar, and the bow bar. And what that really, that B tier really became was some of our favorite specialty

bars that aren't our absolute favorite specialty bar. Yeah. And they're all, I mean, they're all variety, like, those, none of those replicate each other. Like they're all their own thing there, totally, too. That's true. That's true. Which I think is a good standing.

Then in the A tier, you have the American Barbell Chewy bar, a curl, easy curl bar, a Texas deadlift bar, and a rogue Ohio power bar. This tier is funny because it's a little more brand dependent, you know. Yeah. But also at a certain point, that is what differentiates the bars, you know, is the actual brand themselves. bars especially. It's really funny seeing the easy curl bar next to the chewy bar in this list. The easy curl bar is kind of just this funny thing that we have to have up there.

It just kind of transcends the bar selection. Right. They most of them suck. And I don't need, this list, that is not a nice curl bar. I want that to be clear. That's like you're just run of the nil. The shitty silver one on there. Yeah. Yeah. That is a,

I think it belongs in A tier for different reasons. It is a funny grouping though, especially compared to that B where everyone in the B, I'm like, yeah, these are just gray bar. Everyone should have these. In the A, I'm like, well, I wouldn't buy the Rogo-Hau. I personally wouldn't buy the Rogo-Hau Power Bar, but I get why it's there. You really wouldn't buy the Chewy Bar. Personally, I'm not going to buy the chewy bar, but I get why it's there. Then we go to S-tier.

We have the Roe, sorry, we have the Texas Power Bar and the Elite FTSS-S-S-Yoke Bar. You know, this is not our first list, but, man, this might be our best one yet. That's a pretty dang good list. You know, when I look at this, just want to make notes when I look at this list as a whole. I know I've said it before. I'll say it again, it's crazy how we could, you know, put this list together like this ad hoc and come up with the absolute perfect list that no one could dispute. The right answers.

Everyone's going to agree with every single thing in this list. And that's crazy that we put together a definitive list that everyone's going to love every part of. And the even better part is these really tiny pictures of barbells make it, obviously clear of what we're trying to communicate here, so there'll be no confusion about what bar is what to when people look at this picture. This would be a great one when we post it to Instagram. This should get some good engagement of people getting riled up about it. They're like,

why is there a Texas? Half of it, they're just trying to decide what they're even. Why is there a Texas power bar in S and A? What's the difference there? I'm going to be like, what's clearly a deadlift bar. I want to be mad,

but I can't even tell what you idiots did to be mad about. So, I want to be pissed off, but I can't even tell what enough. Oh, I want them to be wrong so bad, but I don't even know what they're saying. Yeah, so please. I mean, if you've actually listened to this podcast, you've screwed the whole thing up. What we need you to do is just take this, just see a picture of this list on Instagram and then give us all your deepest, darkest feelings about it without listening to the context of this episode. I'm waiting.

I can see one criticism, people being like, oh, you didn't. include a rep power bar or a bell's a steel power bar or a fringe power bar and i'm i'm sure they are all fine power bars like i have no issue with they're all going to be a's and b's and yeah like they're all good it's just instead of having this be a a tier list of every company's power bar right we don't that's the thing when we do these last ones because we don't care that much about those ones so we just get to take our liberties of what we even want to put on the list. It's kind of the way. We want to talk about. It's our show. When we do the

music tier list, it's like, did you guys come up with this group of song? We have music, like, and was this even, was this about artists or songs? What is this even? It's like, well, that's what we get to decide. We will start the protein food tier list with chicken wings. That is how this will operate.

That's, this isn't, this isn't your father's tier list over here. No, no, it ain't. Not where he, we understood that he didn't wear a helmet when he rode his bicycle and he drank out of a garden hose and he turned out just fine, but this ain't his list. Yeah.

Ask your father if he's fine. Then get back to us. Yeah. He might not be coming. I like this list. It's just, I'm just, we're so good at this. This is crazy. Yeah.

It's kind of making me feel like I need to buy like an axle or you need to fill out this beatier list, basically. Yeah. My beat. Or made to get a nice new elite FTS. You just learned you have to buy five. Five new bars. Or LEFTS football bar of some guy, an American bar.

You know, one of those thin, dress bars I got. Just talked yourself into like five new bars. All right. Well, good. I was worried I was getting down there on my list, you know. Yeah, so drop us a comment in the YouTube channel. Let us know, let us know that you agree perfectly with this list. If you have any other comments, you can just keep them to yourself, damn it.

Just kidding. Let us know what would we have added to the list. Just don't say rep. Rep Power Bar, we already told you why we didn't add that. I guess you can tell us if that's really what you wanted to add. That's fine. If it's your favorite bar, you tell us that. But let us know what other bars you think we should add to the list.

And let us know what you incorrectly disagree with. Let us know you're incorrect. We want to hear them. We know you're not right. Start it with my incorrect opinion is. Start it like that. And you can say whatever you want, but you have to admit that first. We want that to be the start of your comment.

And my incorrect opinion is, then you can say whatever wrong thing you want. But I don't know anything. So that's how you can end it. My incorrect opinion is, say whatever you want. Yada, yada, yada, yada. But I don't know anything. And then you can say whatever you want then. And we'll like your comment.

We'll star it. We'll pin it. And reply to it. Because we're pretty active in the community. So we might even reply to that comment. So it's my incorrect opinion is whatever you want. But whatever, I don't know anything. It's a very non-confrontational way to tell us how you're feeling.

Yeah, it's the only way that it'll not upset me when I read through this. Tanner would be incredibly upset to read. The only way I'm going to not take this personally. My incorrect opinion is. I would like that just to be future policy on all of our YouTube videos. There's a YouTube setting where you can just make it. So anytime someone leaves a comment, it leads it with it. They're like trying to edit.

They're like, what the heck? Like, how did that get in there? And they're like trying to go back and edit. My incorrect opinion is you guys suck. They're like, okay, well, yeah, that is your incorrect opinion. You're right. You are wrong. I like that.

That's the best part of this episode. My incorrect opinion is, let us know, would you have left the camber bar on the list and where would you have put it? The old camber bar is probably, we really hurt the camber bar feelings, didn't we? The chamber bar community is the morning. They're going to be up in arms about this back. You left the spider bar on, but you got rid of the camber bar.

No, what even has a spider bar? What about all the, uh, the, um, I'm trying to think of the word to describe them. The, I don't want to say purists. That's definitely not what they are. Um, let's just say, what about all of the, uh, enthusiasts of the prime super squat bar? Are they going to come out of the woodwork on this one with their pitchforks? Both of them. All three of them.

Once I get this damn thing bolted together, I'm going to be so angry at you. If those people could read, they would be so upset with us right now. If they could put down their smart arm and their super smart arm. Once I finish setting up this smart arm tomorrow, I'm going to be over there to give you guys a real earful. We're just joking. We love crime people. Sorry, Jose, if you're listening.

If you're not, why the hell aren't you listening? Dang it. That's our list and we're sticking to it. We're sticking to it. All right. That's a good list. That's a great tier list. Home gym barbell tier list.

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Both for himself and other people. That's true. Oh. Okay. Closing notes. You got something about, you got a sauce follow up. Yeah, I just got a little sauce follow. Um, a lot of recommendations came about you. There was a lot. I'm going to say I'm giving heavy preference to recommendations that can be bought locally in my grocery store. I don't, not a big fan of, I mean, I will, but I just don't go online and order sauces because then I always have to remember to go online and order sauces, which, uh, maybe I'll do it. But that's a harder one for me to handle. but in the store okay I did get is it kinders I think is the brand kinders they have a bunch of different sauces

it's like a little longhorn is their logo they have a bunch of different sauces and spices I got the blend as one of their spices salt pepper garlic man it goes on everything it is a great all purpose one right up my alley I can 100% recommend that I think it's a good

proportion of all of those I think Jen recommended is it G. Hughes, is that the one? Is that the calorie or the... Yes, G. Hughes, sugar-free sauces. Sugar-free... I had no idea.

I've seen these in the grocery store before. I had no idea what they were. I just never bought them before. And I mean, I shouldn't say. I have no idea what they are. It does say sugar-free enormous on the label, but I just never bothered to read that. And I did get...

I was just in the grocery store the other day. I thought, okay, I'll give this a try. I got the, I think it was like the Carolina sauce. and for having five calories, which as far as I'm concerned is zero calories. Right. Delicious. That's a margin of error.

I'm like, this is delicious. These are, this is great. So I'm, I will definitely pick up some more of those. I've had those before too. I think those are good.

Yeah. For, I'm not a sauce snob though. I pretty much, there's very few that I'm like, I don't like this. Yeah. I was very pleasantly surprised for basically having no calories that,

uh, you can, you can load those suckers up and you don't got to worry about anything. So I do like that recommendation. Thank you, Jen. Anything else that you have tried yet or anything on your list to try? No, I mean, there was other ones that came in of people mixing. I mix this, this, and this.

I'm sure you do. I'm sure it's delicious. I'm not going to mix crap. I'm not going to, like, get five things out to mix before I do it. I just want it in a bottle ready to go and squeeze it. I'm trying to think what else there was. I think there's, like, a variety of, like, hot sauces and buffalo sauces, some things like that. so yeah i'll i'll keep uh keep looking down that sauce aisle but so far i have been happy with the

the few that i've grabbed yeah my week two macro factor update would be i'm i'm like in macro factor it's gotten simpler uh-huh i think because i was looking for a clip to pull from last week's episode and we were talking about it and i think i maybe think i forgot to say i didn't want to like i listen to myself and i'm like oh i sound like i know it all already like that i'm like oh yeah, this is good on, and I'm like, what I think the really big value that I'm looking forward to is like to maintain, I kind of already knew how to maintain so I feel comfortable in maintaining, but what I'm excited about is the day that comes that I either want to get five pounds heavier or get seven pounds lighter or whatever it is. I'm like, I feel

like it's going to make that so easy. Right. That it's like, oh, it's like here is the perfect roadmap. And if I stick to it, it's like guaranteed almost to, work like yeah because especially with how predictable you're eating is the second you decide you want to do a cut it's gonna just like drop off like 50 carbs and a little fat and then it's like yep that's your cut right and that just makes it so there's no guesswork like i mean i and there again you kind of know that how to do that anyways intuitively if you've been eating with a purpose for quite a while but i just think uh that that that's like that's the really exciting part of it to me i think is uh knowing the exact changes to make yeah well and my my takeaway from

you talking about last week is you're you're already at a much more advanced level of this than 90% of people ever are and also you're significantly more consistent with your food than most people are so that'd be a nice way I'm sitting up putting it yeah you're just a very easy use case compared to the average person that's eating out every day maybe multiple times a day um just stringing meals together whatever they can like that person has a lot of low-hanging fruit that they can yeah you know do where for you it's like, nah, I'm like 95% there, even when I'm not there. I've been excited to try it eating out.

I have not, still have not eaten out yet once since I've started it. So I'm like, oh, I take search like McDonald's. It's not going to be McDonald's, but like. Right. The national chains are pretty easy because all their stuff is in there. You know, where it gets a little more challenging is the, you know, you go to a local place where it's whatever. But you take the, it's funny to take the picture with your phone and actually see what it spits out at you because it's, I have tried it a couple. times even when I kind of know what it is. I just want to see what the picture tells me. And it seems

pretty good from the times I've tried it. It's like kind of spot on. Yeah. I don't know if it's spot on, but it's better than I would have got to. Yeah. I own. Or it at least gives me a starting point where I can be like, okay, yep, I definitely know that while this picture thinks there's two ounces of chicken here, there's more than two ounces or like, no, there's not actually six ounces of steak here, you know, whatever it is. It at least gets you in the ballpark to where you can start to, uh, you know, dial it in. Another funny realization I've kind of picked up on is like sometimes you get caught up worrying about you get caught up in the minutia of some of the stuff.

And then I'm like, maybe this flies in the face of the tracking to begin with. But I'm like, a lot of stuff I'm like, it doesn't really matter if it's six and a half or seven and a half. Like that start at a certain point, I'm like there's a margin of error here. There is. Everything. Like you get everything as accurate as you can. And, like, that's the best you can do. But some of the stuff you can,

it's easy to get too worried about some of that stuff. And I'm like, this is just the difference of what's even in the package, even when you're scanning a label. You know, you never, like it's never like 20 calories here and 20 calories there. It just,

it's kind of, it's like worrying about every plate being exactly calibrated. It is. Yeah, you can't do that. On the flip side out, though, you know, after we started talking about this recently,

I've started to look at my own use, because I've, I'm kind of on auto. pilot for the most part my stuff's in there and right I did find because it just a couple weeks ago it was like kind of like bringing down my calories again I'm like why is it doing this what's going on and after paying a little more attention there was there was two main things where I was off by actually a decent amount one of them was um cottage cheese was kind of one where I'm like oh this is just I'm doing this mini serving you know the first time I did it I was like okay

this is what a half a cup this is what that looks like okay and then over time you're kind of just like well it's cottage cheese and all of a sudden it's like oh my half a cup has almost doubled as to what it actually is yeah and if you're doing that twice a day that's the difference of more than 100 calories so okay yeah again not a huge amount um but so that's one thing and then the other one that i was just getting lazy on was uh i buy a lot of Costco bagels and from there there's are quite large they're very big right and uh a kirklin bagel rings in at 300 calories. Yep.

And I just hadn't gone to Costco for a little while. High V is closer to me. I'd got some high V ones. Yeah. I was still rig. You were just using that bag. I was still using the one in. And I'm like,

I should probably look at this. And I put that one in and that one was 200 calories. And there are some days where I have two of those as well. Right. Right. So I'm like, oh, right there are off by 200 calories. Just right there. And then with the cottage cheese, if I'm eating a decent amount of that,

I'm off by 300 calories right there. I'm like, yeah. That actually is a consistent. considerable amount. And then you do it every day of the week. So for the week, you're off of 2,000 some days. Yeah, and that does add up. And there was like a week or two where I was almost doing that, what I just said there.

And now that I've cleaned that up, I'm like, oh, no, so then just this week it bumped me up like 70 calories just for the week. Yeah. I would imagine if I do that again for another week or two, it's going to give me another 70 calories for probably the next two weeks. So yeah, I might have been incorrect by a few hundred. That's good to know. the other thing that it's I think I said this on last weeks of the week before that I'm like oh I could just eat the same thing for every meal and I have actually not doing it for every meal I eat the same I always eat the exact same thing for lunch every day it's just chicken breast rice and fat free cut of cheese you do for breakfast too right but my point was that I could eat the exact same thing for supper that I eat for lunch every day and just start doing that for two meals of the day and I am kind of kind of do that not every single supper but uh probably 50% of them I am also going to eat my lunch now because it just simplifies our life and stuff even more

that I'm like oh this is like this is the motivation I need to do that because I'm realizing how perfect that meal is for my macros too that I'm like no I'll just eat that like 50% more of the time at night and it's like takes care of every one of those nights that I know is rock solid for the total day then so you had a picture you uh yeah use that's what's I was doing. Well, my wife was mostly doing that. I actually, for her to do that, I went and took all the kids out and we went and washed her vehicle, vacuumed it out.

So it's like, we're going to work on something for you while you work on something for me. Yeah. So people that don't know here. Tanner posted a picture. And I don't know, how many bags of chicken was it? 44. 44 zip-block bags of chicken. And it was like, is it shredded?

Yeah. It's, it's, uh, chicken breast. from Walmart the big like in the yellow styrofoam refrigerated tray of chicken breast I don't know if each one's about like 10 pounds or 6 pounds or whatever 8 I don't know

I think the starting weight was maybe like 50 some pounds of it we made in that batch So how are you making this then So in the instant pot Basically as much as you fit in the instant pot 50 pounds right in Yeah no I think it was four or five batches

in the instant pot. And how long does it take in there? So it takes a while? I don't know because I don't do it. I mean, does it take a couple hours for it? I've never used it. No, no, no, no, no. No, I mean, to do all five batches took like a couple hours.

Oh, okay. Okay, so it cooks it. Cooks it pretty fast. And then when it's done, then do you shred it? Yes. And does she season it while it's in the instant pot? Before it going in the instant pot, she trims. Because on that chicken from Walmart.

There's kind of some crappy pieces on it. that you don't actually want to eat. And she trims all of that off. It doesn't end up being that much, but it makes eating it way better because it's like gets rid of that crap that you don't act that's like kind of grosses you out when you get it.

You're like, oh, well, is that one bite of this can damn near ruin my entire meal. Right, right. And that's part of what works for me because I don't. Just the good stuff. Yeah, so she seasons it before, you know, in the pot. And then after trimming it, yeah cooks it shreds it the shredding it might be the most tedious part of it but it is like

one of the most important keys to me eating that yeah able to eat that all the time is the shredded because it is never chewy see that's what i think i need to what's made yeah because i've ate way more chicken lately and what's made it more tolerable for me is i damn near like dice it as thin and tiny as i can to where it's just like these little chicken chicken just little pieces because big rubbery chicken chunks are so disgusting. But so she does, if the shredding, it takes more time than the dicing it because she does it diced sometimes, which is fine. I mean, I could eat that every day and I'd be fine too, but the diced, even tiny diced is

not as good as the shirt, when it's shredded. When it's shredded, it's like, and then you mix it with rice. And then especially if you want to put sauce on it at that point, you might as well, that's why I'm saying like at a certain point it's like this is the most low effort perfect macro meal ever created yeah because you're putting these in 40 Ziploc bags and they're all going in the freezer then yeah yep all they all go in the freezer then and then I just take one out I take it out in the morning and then by the time I ate lunch it's uh thought enough to put it in the microwave and heated up so what do you do I mean where you put in it though when you take it to work I just

my hobo lunch box to go to work is a Walmart sack. I take a Walmart sack to work every day like I'm a homeless person. I just leave it on your desk. I just pause out at room temperature for four hours. Yeah, actually what I do is that's exactly what I do. I take it out of the freezer at about 6.30 or 7 a.m. And it sits there until about 11 a.m. And then I put it in the fridge and then until I take it out.

Isn't that, like, against, isn't that like a big no-no of food safety things? Because it's still frozen, it's still, it's frozen. Oh, like it doesn't thaw out at all? It thaws out enough that by the time I put it in the fridge and let it sit in the fridge for a couple more hours and then the microwave, it's like, it's not a rock hard frozen clump when I put in the microwave. Like, I still have to break it apart. Like, it's to a point where it's still like frozen, but I can like easily break it apart with my hand. And how many else is there each one of these bags? I do usually do eight.

Eight ounces. Yeah. So what's that? Is that like about 80 grams of protein or? I don't think it's that much. I think it's 50 some or, yeah. I should know that by now. I should, too.

Actually, I just put the damn ounce number in and don't even look at it twice. That's exactly right. It's, uh, okay. Six ounces for me says 50 protein on this, but maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, though my, my, my, I literally have the boneless skinless chicken breast from Walmart. Yep. And I do eight ounces. today was

283 calories 51 grams of protein 8 grams of fat There's probably arguably actually that much fat in it because it's trimmed pretty well and zero carbs So it's over 50

You know it's 50 plus grams of protein And it's really good And if I don't have time to let it thaw I just do the de-frost in the microwave But the de-frost in the microwave makes it not quite as good because you're just like the long heat for so long can make it a little bit chewier

if you have to de-frost it completely. It's just, I'm having this realization right now. This is one of those things where in Macro Factory you pick something once and you just use it every time. Yep. So on the line, I clicked on chicken breast, grilled, boneless, skinless. Because I'm like, oh, yeah, it's boneless, skinless.

Yeah. And I mean, it's not grilled, but it's just cooked up a man. And that thing, it's, the macros that spits out are six ounces would be 50 protein and six fat. And when I just type in boneless, skinless, extra lean chicken brush from Kirkland, six ounces is giving me 41 protein two fat. And that's, that's right, that's right in line with what I have then. Yeah. So that's, uh, I mean, again, not a huge difference. It's a difference of, uh, here is 250 versus 180 calories.

Actually, it is kind of a lot, that's one of those that I should probably clean up my entry on. Right. I guess it's a good lesson. today's is a good lesson on us of food selection on the entries you know you do your best when you don't have a choice but if it's coming from a package it is always nice to scan it when you can yeah that's the other thing i have to go dumpster diving after i've already made stuff to go back oh where's the put the package for this uh i need to scan it yeah it makes life way easier when you do that um okay so that's that then i feel like i have one more thing i was going to ask you

about that chicken. It ends up being like, this one was like 40 some bags. So it'll, you know, I'll eat it for sure five days a week every week for lunch. So,

you know, about 20 gets me through a month for lunch. And then I'll probably eat about 10 to 15 for evening meals and then maybe a couple on the weekend. So this, that's like a month supply. Yeah.

And you're not adding any extra sauces or seasonings. Like you're just riding with what you got. When I have it at work, I never, Fat-free, mild cheddar cheese on it from Walmart. I put that on the rice, and that's kind of my sauce. But when I eat it at home, just like if it's on a weekend and I'm at home. And you're getting crazy.

Yeah, sometimes I'll put a little bit of an Old West sauce on it or something like that. Just I would not have to. I just do it literally be like, ah, it's like a special day today. I didn't really treat myself. I'm going to put a little sauce on it. It's good with sauce. Like if you like sauces, then it, yeah. If you like sauces, that makes this like, I just can't even.

I actually don't know if I hardly like anything better. Like, I don't know if I could go to a restaurant and pick a food item that I actually like it better. Okay. So my takeaway from this conversation is I just need to pay attention to a couple of my listings a little better because some of them I think are still a little off. Not much, but a little off. and then I need to do shredded chicken. That's why I need to try. I think that that's, maybe you'll disagree.

Maybe it's just my personal preference too. No, because my experience has been, as time has gone on, I've gotten to smaller and smaller chicken pieces, and it's gotten better and better. Yes. Yes. I think the shredding. A little seasoning and shredding it is, I think.

You just have like a paper shredder on top of your thing. You just drop the breasts right in there and it just shreds them up. I think a lot of times my wife actually uses the, Yeah, egg beater. Oh, really? I think that's a part of the process. Okay. I don't know.

Honestly, whenever she's doing it, I find a project of hers to go do so that, like, because I don't want to do that project. So I'm like, if I can make myself really useful during this, she's going to continue to be willing to do it. If I, if when, when she gets done, I also did something that is advantageous for her. So I actually just kind of try and stay away during chicken making day.

Oh, that's the best way to do it. Yeah, yeah. He's trying to be not seen and heard during chicken making chicken prep day. Just on the flip side of it, 40 bags of chicken show up and it's all. Yes, yes. All right. We talked about our drop coming up. It's going to be a big one.

We got some 50% off items coming in that drop. We're going to clear some things out. Everyone always makes the joke that it's just size extra small and size 4X. but the truth of the matter is there's always a variety. You know, it's not every shirt. Yeah, there's a little something for everyone. Not every shirt and every size, but between the collective number of shirts and things that are on sale,

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