Massenomics Podcast - Ep 502 Huge Arnold 2026 Announcement

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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I mean, 500 episodes until it shifts to season three. Season two, episode two, also known as episode 5002 of the Massanomics podcast. It's going to be kind of a lull until we get to that thousand mark. I know. I just have to plow through it. Yeah, it's that. sophomore slump we're going through right now. Yeah. Until season three.

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We got a lot of stuff to get to this week. I think title topic is going to be a giant Arnold 2026 announcement. We have big news about this March coming, 26 Arnold, that we'll get to here relatively shortly. prior to that we have several other things we want to discuss. Are you drinking anything? First off, before we get too far into this, we got some rabbit holes to get down.

Of course I am. But we can't do those while we're thirsty, I don't think. No, no, no. Got the Waterloo Lemon Lime. Oh, yeah, and I got the Satsuma, and I'm going to toss it inside this drink spot or chill available at masonomics.com. It's a magnetic.

Cousie. The Satsuma. Yeah. Old Satsuma. Something so exotic. The Rambler imported out of Texas. Following this can segment, in honor of season two of the podcast,

I had a little segment that I thought we could throw in the next here. Okay. Yeah. In honor of season two episode two, I thought we'd do a little throwback. A fan favorite segment that we haven't done for, months, if not years. I need a little music for this, or a little,

let me see if this will play us in. Ladies and gentlemen, Massonomics is in the house. Thank you, Gino. And everyone knows that when Gino says Massanomics is in the house, it's time for, has he seen it? Oh, okay, yeah.

This is going back a little ways. Wow. Yes. Has he seen it? We were taking it by the year. I don't even know what year we left off on. Well, luckily I know all those details. Wow.

Okay. We went from 1987, was the oldest, all the way through 2002. Wow. And I played both ends of that. I would go either direction from there. You were bouncing around. There was also the occasional special occasion, like a 420 version of Has he seen it. Wow.

Yeah, I'm forgetting about all this. We've played Has He Seen it? This will be the 8-19th time we've played, Has He Seen it? The worst you've ever done, has he seen it? We always play at seven rounds typically, occasionally eight, if there's a bonus round. The worst you've ever done is having seen one out of seven.

I did do that bad, okay. That was from 1991. Part of it depends on what movies I pick, but I always, I do try to just, it's a variety path. Yeah, you sprinkle in some. John Rod. Some super popular ones and also just a touch under the radar. I could just pick, like, the shittiest movies ever from every year,

and you're going to get zero out of seven. Yeah, like, that's not the goal. It's like, I want popular movies or movies that are significant for some reasons. Your best, 1998, 7 out of 7. Ooh, really? Perfect score in 1998. Oh, I didn't think I did that either. Historically, the joke is that you haven't seen the movies.

But I just wonder if that's kind of, if people listen to anyone play this game, almost no matter what, that would be your takeaway because there's always going to be movies that you think are really important that the other person hasn't seen. And on the flip side, unless you've seen like every movie, there's definitely going to be times that you haven't seen them,

but there's no one there to rub it in your face, so you get off easy. Right. Okay, so 1986. We've got 786. And for anyone that's brand new to the game, we list the movie, out of Tommy seen it. How do you think you'll do in 1980s?

I'm not super confident about movies from the 80s. I don't have... You historically haven't done awesome on movies. Yeah, I don't have a great feeling about this one. 1989, you did get four out of seven. Okay. Well, over half. This was the year before I was even born, though.

Oh, man, that is old. We're getting back there. That's old as dirt. Okay. Has he seen at first one? very popular war movie. Has he seen it? Platoon.

I have not. Charlie Sheen. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yep. I have not seen that movie. It's always been on my list, but I've never seen it. Platoon is good.

Platoon, I would actually like to watch Platoon again. That is a good movie. Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about it. That's why it straight up is one of those that I've always wanted to watch, but never done it. Charlie Sheen, probably before all the nose candy and hookers and everything, I would say. A young Charlie Sheen, maybe a breakout performance for Charlie Sheen. Probably would have been around there, yeah. I did not know until, ashamedly, too recently, that Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez are brothers.

Yes. And what's their dad's name again? Martin Sheen. Okay, there you're Martin Sheen. I really did not know. And you know what my first knowledge of Emilio Estevez, his name as an actor, Mighty Ducks. Well, I see I watched Mighty Ducks, but at that point in time,

I wasn't paying attention to what actor's names were. It was. Night at the Roxbury. Emilio! Emilio! It's funny that I remember that when I was a little kid watching that one and being like, who are they talking about? Who is this guy?

And because I'd seen Mighty Ducks, I knew who the guy was without actually knowing his name. So yes. Yeah. Nighter Oxbury. Classic. which brings us back to platoon 0 for 1 so far. I probably, I think I know your answer on this based on recent conversation,

but I had to include it because it's so timely, oddly, oddly relevant here that when I saw this, I'm like, okay, we have to do this one. Okay. So first I'll say the name. You probably won't even exactly know what it is by the name, but we'll explain it. Maybe you've seen it. Has Tommy seen it an American tale? An American tale is the prequel to Fival goes west.

Okay. I was going to say, is this an animated movie? It sounds vaguely familiar. To Fypl goes west. It is the prequel to Fival goes west. An American tale. Yes, okay, that's why. Yeah, I have not seen this, but it's the earlier movie.

Now I know why it's familiar because we were looking at the Fival pictures and then I see it in here. Yeah. Yeah. So you have not seen an American tale, you think? Like had you seen Fival Goes West or were you aware of it? I was aware of it, yes, because I remember, I remember seeing like the animation style and the pictures from it. It's one of those movies.

I want to say when I was a little kid, my grandma might have had the VHS in her house. And it's like, everyone's grandma had the VHS. Yeah. And it's like, I think we kind of watched it, but we were never really paying attention. But I'm fairly certain I have seen Fival Goes West, but an American tale, I don't think I have seen that. Is this a case where the second movie is the more popular of the two? Wait, well, when you say it's the prequel. No, it was just the movie that came out prior to five-wil.

It was the first movie. Okay, that's what I thought was even funny about that. Is that they came with American. Prequel is not the right word in that context probably. It's just the original, yeah. Right, it's the original. Fival Goes West is the sequel there. Right.

So does everyone just remember the Fival Goes West one? Or is that just like my own personal thing? I don't know. I think it's a more noteworthy name than just an American tale, which is just such a generic. An American Tale so generic. Yeah. Right.

Okay. I don't know. Oh, gosh. Actually, I feel like I know too much about your history of movies that I'm not feeling now that I look at this list. I wasn't analyzing them if you've actually seen them before. And I'm like, well, I kind of know your stance on this next one, our sports genre. Oh, yeah. But maybe you've seen this one.

It's possible. You definitely know it. Has Tommy seen it? Hoosiers, 1986, Gene Hackman. I have not seen it. No. I've never seen Hoosiers. Hoosiers is good. It actually is? Hoosiers is good. Yeah, it's really good.

It also put you to sleep if you're a little tired, but it is, uh, there's a lot of like, like, let me say it's long or? It's, it is a little long. Also, the soundtrack is really soothing to Hoosiers. Like the opening scene, I could pop the opening scene of Hoosiers on and, get me to bed like so fast. Yeah, it's just, I don't know, you have to watch it and you're watching what this is now. I think you go like, oh, yeah, all right, yep. The opening credits are, feel really long to the movie.

I'll say that. They used to do that on a lot of movies. I've really noticed that, especially with the kids watching older Disney animated movies, they have no problem with like five minutes of credits play before they get to the actual movie, which they would never dream of doing that with a child's movie now. Never. That's tough when I try to sell. my kids on some older movie. I'm like, you're going to like this. And we get into it.

And it's like for the slideshow of names to get done with. Hoosiers is a great sports movie. It's one of my all-time favorites. I'm a big basketball fan. I also just like the old, you know, like the feel of it. And just like the cool old Indiana basketball part of it, I just think is really cool. All right. Well, you're kind of selling me on it. I can tell you, I'm not, I'm not convinced. You'll like Hoosiers, though. But I can tell you until right now, I would never even give that movie a thought.

But the fact that you're giving it a little credit, if I were to see it now, I could be like, okay, well, someone says it's okay. Gene Hackman is really good in it, I think. And I'm not positive if you'll like it or not, but I do really like Hoosiers. Okay. It's good to know.

Okay. What's that one for three? Because we're saying you've seen America, Well, you haven't seen any of them. 0 for three. Oh, damn, you're right. Platoon, American Tail and Hoosiers. Yeah, you're right.

Yep, yep, yep, sorry. Right. This next one, I don't know, coin flip. I assume you're going to know what it is, but has he seen it, Milo and Otis? I don't think I have, and I, this name is so familiar. I have to just see the picture here. Yeah, it's a pug and a calico cat.

No, I've definitely not seen this. No. No. No. Are you aware of Milo and Otis? I don't even know if I'm aware of this, to be honest. Milo and Otis is really good. It actually is?

Well, when you're a kid. Yeah. When you're a kid. If you, to watch it now, not probably great. I can't believe Keith is saying he's never heard of it at his age because what I was going to say is I think maybe it's potentially just a birth year. issue almost at a certain point where I'm like some of these are just a little old. Yeah. So what it's making me think of seeing these animals together live action is it's like,

oh, is this sort of like the precursor to Homeward Bound? Yes. Because that's the absolute classic to me. Yes, it is. I remember liking that movie a lot as a kid. If you like Homeward Bound as a kid, you like Milo. You would by default like Milo. It is the precursor to Homeward Bound.

That's a perfect. Although the disturbing part. part of it is the cat in the movie gets into a lot of sticky situations. And it's all film, you know, these aren't, it's not animated, it's real cats and stuff. And I've read before that they went through like, I don't know how many cats making that movie. Yeah. I think so. Someone fact check me.

That might be made. That might be urban legend. That could just be urban legend. but I think that they went through cat, multiple mylos. But growing up, we had animals that of both named Milo and Otis. And like, I have probably run into, I don't know how many pugs in my life named Milo. Yeah. Or Otis, I mean.

I think I kind of just missed this one totally. Saying those names together meant something. But then if you were to tell me that it's animals, I'm like, yeah, no, that doesn't mean anything to me. I actually need to get my kids to watch my low notice. And I'm really curious to see if they like it or not. And I'd be shocked if they didn't. Well, I think it probably holds up. I think kids will like it no matter what just because you're watching little animals the entire time.

And I think that that's what worked for it to begin with. It's the same as homework. It is just the homework about it is homework bound only slightly. It's almost not a different plot. Actually, the plot is the cat gets lost and the dog goes to save the cat. Yeah, it is just home. It is. It is.

It's like outward bound kind of. It's like outward bound. Yes. Okay. So that's four noes. Maybe this will be historically your worst ever. Yeah, I'm not feeling too great about these. Number five, you'll absolutely know the movie.

I don't know if you've seen it. I'm not even, I'm not positive if I've ever seen the entire movie. I think maybe I have, but I would almost check a no, maybe if this was me. Has he seen it Crocodile Dundee? This is one it used to be on TV all the time I've seen so many parts of it But I can't actually say I've ever just watched the whole movie I feel like there was just years of my life growing up

Where this was on like I don't know TNT or something Oh for sure On repeat All the time Yeah all the time Yeah I can't I've never yeah just

Nah if that's a nah This is a nah if they had that whole scene But yeah I have not I don't even really know many of the plot points of that movie. So what are we saying? Is that a yes or no? No, I'm going to say no on that.

Okay. That's kind of where I'm at. Like, I feel like it feels like I've seen almost the entire movie, but I don't know if I've really seen any of the movie, if that makes any sense where it's like, if you know, someone shows you the knife scene, like, of course you've seen that a thousand times,

but you've never really watched the movie. Okay. That's a no. We got two left. Oh, boy. I don't know if you've seen this. You might be the only person listening that hasn't seen, but I know we've talked about it.

I can't remember if you'd watch it or not. Has he seen it, Top Gun? No, I haven't seen Top Gun either. That's probably the one on the list you should have seen. The old one or the new one. I've seen neither one of them. Yeah, that's the one no one's going to give you any leeway on, I feel like. Everyone's sounding off in the chat.

Tommy hasn't seen Top Gun. Tommy W-T-T-O. It was pretty crazy, isn't it? Top Gun is a good movie, and it actually holds up. There was a time in my life where it's like, well, it's such a part of pop culture. It's like, yeah, you know these scenes and these lines from it. And it's like just felt like this cheesy, 80s thing. So it's like, what, why do I even need to go there now?

And then it got this whole revitalization with the new one coming out. And then it was like, oh, yeah, we love all these movies again. And, yeah, I haven't seen either one. I it is good it is a good movie because I you know I rewatched it recently just exactly like the situation you described and I just think top gun is good I actually don't even know if it holds up or not I just think it's really good though and like it's one of those ones to me it's good no matter what yeah I plan on watching both of them someday yeah just got to do it okay oh for six but I save the one for last so that I thought maybe the most that you've seen you've seen you I knew you hadn't really seen. I was pretty sure you hadn't seen Top Gunn because I thought we talked about it. I thought maybe you would have seen Platoon. And I guess I just thought you probably had seen Milan Otis.

Hoosers, I did kind of think it was a no because I know you don't like sports movies that much. But this one, kind of a sports movie, but one I thought maybe you would have seen. Okay. It's kind of a sports movie. It's not conventionally a sports movie, but has he seen it for his final change? on 1986 to have seen one. Has he seen it? Rad.

No. I didn't even know what this was until just a few years ago. Okay. I feel like we've talked about it before and I thought maybe you had said you had seen it. Yeah, I didn't even know this was a thing until just, actually the reason I know this is that I ever even knew this was a thing

is when we came out with that lift shirt that had like the lifts kind of script on it. And someone, it might have been like Scott Dodds. You mean the grunge lift shirt? No, it had just like the red letter. that just said, that's the grunge lift shirt. Oh, is that what that was called? Yeah, yeah.

So I can't even remember now. Yeah. And I think with Scott Dodd said like, oh, this kind of reminds you of the movie rad. And I'm like, what is he talking about? And I had to look it up. And I totally get what he means. But yeah, never seen it.

So 0 for 7. Oh, for 7. I really wasn't, I was actually, before we started, I was talking about how I don't do this trying to like get you to not have seen. I'm telling you, man. I just have not seen very many 80s movies.

I, I don't think I'll do good at any year from the 80s. Well, that's why we go back and forth. So we also get some 2000. The zeros with the fives. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen platoon, Hoosiers, Milan Otis.

I've got to give myself a no. Top Gun yet. So I'm at five, I guess, five out of seven. But I like 80s movies, maybe. Maybe, I don't know. In my mind. In my mind, I was drawing up, something about 80s movies felt like there was just this level of cheesiness. I'm not saying they're bad, but just I had this mentality, especially like in high school when you're watching more movies,

that there was just this level of cheesiness with them that. Crocodile Dundee, for example, absolutely fits the bill of that. Well, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I don't know. I just thought maybe we had talked about it and like you had seen that one. I don't know, but maybe we talked about it.

and it was that you hadn't seen it, apparently. I'm just looking through. I just had to type in biggest movies of the 80s just to see some of these. And I won't say them because I don't want to spoil future versions of this game. But looking at some of the biggest ones in the 80s, I feel pretty good at looking at this list,

but also our game isn't picking out the biggest movies of the 80s either. Right, right, right. All right, that's the revival of Has He Seen it? I like it. We'll see if we can, maybe we'll come back to that first. Season 3. Okay.

Has he seen it? I've got a sack segment for us this week. Yeah. A second here. Let me grab the sack. Wait a minute. I'm confused. Why is there a Minnesota

Massonomics license plate behind you? That's the sack segment. Oh. Always has been the sack segment. Perfect timing. What is going on here? Yeah. The Minnesota

MSS NMX plate. Do not just to your screens. This is a real bona fide Minnesota plate. This is actually off the vehicle. This is Big Andy is the owner of the MSS and MX plate for Minnesota. I think we're up to 15 or 16 states and Canadian provinces that have the MSS and MX plates. And he actually got his renewed. He got a different vehicle.

So in Minnesota he got new plates. So he had his old plates to take off. keep and he gave me one of them. Oh, wow. So I'm going to, I think I'll hang it in the gym with all the plate collection, but this is the real Minnesota plate. I don't think I've ever seen a black Minnesota plate before. Iowa has. I've seen a lot of Iowa ones. I don't think I've ever seen a Minnesota one. I asked him, do you, so do you have multiple options of the color ones you get? And he said, uh, it's pretty much just either the black one or you can get the regular white one. That's it. Oh. So that's what he said. And, um, I had him signed the back of it. And I got this because big Annie just

made a special trip to Western Northeast South Dakota this week to come lift at the gym the other day. So we got a lift in together and he brought this plate. I'm like, that'll make it get sex. Did he come just to lift? Oh, he did. He did a day trip just to come to the gym and we got a lift in on like Monday. He was like passing through for something. Yeah.

Wow. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Big Beardham said the black ones were new last year. Oh, well, that's, I guess I haven't been paying enough attention then. Yeah. So that's pretty sweet, isn't it? So what I was going to put this out there,

I'm going to hang this in the gym with our other plates and our plate collection. Anyone that has the real, you know, there's like 15 states, two provinces. Scantz is the official keeper of it. He's actually, so there's 17 total. I've got one of them. I've now got the Minnesota one.

So I've collected two out of the 17. All states are different. All provinces are different. But for anyone if they ever do have to change out and get new ones also, and if they've got two, a front and a back, If you're so inclined, send me one of them, sign the back of it. Send it to me and I'll keep adding them to the collection of all the real MSS and MX plates. That would be really cool.

Yes, to have a collection of those. It would be freaking cool. Yes, it would be. Frick and sweet. So keep that in mind for all you listen and that are, you know, that have your plates. And if you don't have this, let's check your state, maybe it's still open. There's 35 states left and however many provinces there are minus two. and then report back so we can get you on the list.

Yeah. Scants keeps a pen and pad note paper list of them. So there's eight provinces available and 35 states available still. So it could be in luck on three territories if you have a vehicle in those territories. That was our SAC segment. We should mention, should we mention that we have a really, big secret trip coming up and that's about all we're going to mention. Yeah, I think that's fair.

Yeah, just to say that part of it. As of next week or when this comes out pretty much. If planes will be operating, we will be going. We have a big Massonomics top secret trip coming that the cat's not out of the bag on yet. We can't. We can't really give any additional information on that, but it's going to be, it's a pretty It's pretty big for mass dynamic, so it'll be pretty fun.

And if everything goes according to plan, it'd be a lot of good videos that come out of it. Yes. I am a little nervous about the flights, though. They're already always a little nerve-wracking,

and this is just cranking that up to 11. I... As political as I'll get about it, I'm like, I just want them to make it so things work. Whatever has to happen for things... I don't think that's... To work.

That crazy of a demand... Is that political? just want airfare to be functional in a modern day country. Like, I don't think that's asking too much. That's what I would like to happen, especially when it's specifically affecting a massonomic thing. We have going. That would be my, that's my ask to anyone influential listening.

How about that the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Dude. Okay. Do you remember this really being a thing on Instagram before, like, a year ago? About a year. year and a half ago is when it really started being pretty on my radar on Instagram. Because I remember last year talking about it at this time. I don't think we'd ever brought it up on the podcast before that.

But we did discuss it last year at this time. And it was like, yeah, I'd maybe seen a few things. You had seen a lot more things. And it's the thing of where one person sees it, then it starts to spread and get it in your feed. And so by the time, you know, we hit mid-November, December last year. I had seen a lot of Edmund Fitzgerald stuff. but it subsided a little bit. We did have some reminders of it.

Some items were given to us over the year. There was always the occasional meme popping in, but this year was on another level. Oh, my God. It was insane. The amount of Edmund Fitzgerald. So we also ran, what would be the word? We were just kind of an online challenge.

Yeah, it was a challenge. It wasn't a contest. It was just an online challenge where anyone could go out and do 29 reps of anything in the gym and tag us in it and we'll share it. And a ton of people participated in that. When you made that challenge, that video challenging people to do it, I thought, yeah, if things go good, though, I don't know, it'll be 10, 15, maybe 20 people that do this. It was just an endless feat. And it's not just people we know doing it. A lot of the most, probably most of the people I'd never even heard of them before, which from Assonomics stuff is obviously.

a surprise. Yeah, and it was the 50 year anniversary this year of it sinking in 196. I still got a feeling it's just going to be a thing every year now, though, that, you know, I think it probably will be. So between, I tried to share as many of those as I could find, but literally we're getting tagged in so many of those. I don't even know if I caught half of it was, if I would open my phone, it was literally a flood of Edmund Fitzgerald like tagging. Like I could not keep them all. I was. if you posted one I didn't share it's not because I wasn't

trying to it's because I literally got lost in all like I don't think we've ever been tagged in anything as much as we were that Edmund Fitzgerald thing and the number of Edmund Fitzgerald DM that I've got sent

of posts and memes and stuff I bet over the last week I've been sent four or 500 Redd admin Fitzgerald. So it's just impossible to keep up on. Well, I've, I mean, the same, like, right. The same ones all get sent 70 times.

Yeah. All, like, all I can see, when I open my phone, the only noise it makes is the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot. Just over and over and over again. Yes. Yes. And which I love because I enjoy it. But it was an Edmund Fitzgerald overload this year where I'm like,

oh my gosh, this is insane, like the amount of Edmund Fitzgerald and some really funny memes and stuff that people made about the occasion. You know, like really entertaining and shined a lot of light on the Edmund Fitzgerald. So the Edmund Fitzgerald was getting its due. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people participated. I did a squat challenge.

so I could get called out on not squatting to depth. Just a lot of hater comments this week actually in general. This is a meme page. So, you know, it feels like there's been a lot of hater comments in the last week or so. I usually mean things are going decent. That's kind of what I figure, too. It's like, at least people are seeing the, enough people are seeing this to tell us that they don't like it.

Yeah. Like, I don't know you guys, but I don't like it what you're doing. We're reaching the uneducated masses here. Yes. My legs were a little sore from squatting 29 reps though, too. I believe it. That would do it. My quads were sore.

Uh-huh. 29 reps is a lot for a set. I don't know if I've ever done a set of squats of that many reps. I've done 20 reps before. I don't think I've ever done a 20 rep set. I've done 315 by 20. Really? And that nearly, like, when I did that, I did like collapse.

Yeah, that was. really, really hard. 225 for 29 wasn't near as bad as that. Yeah, it's still a lot, though. That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. My quads are sore from that.

Maybe that's what I've been missing. That's why my quads have really 29 rep sets. Yeah. The thing about a set of 29 is how do you count them? I know. Because there's no even breaks there. No.

It's a very, very, very odd number. Yeah, it's 29 a prime number? Probably, right? Yeah, there's nothing divisible by it. No, I don't think so. Got to be a prime. I mean, you could do five, four, five sets of five and a set of four.

That's pretty close to being, or sorry, yeah, five sets of five and a set of four. Count to five, five times. That I think is too tricky. Okay. All right. I can say when I did do them, I actually just counted to 29 straight.

Like I On something like that When you're when you're really stressing the body The last thing you want to be doing is mental math So just that's what I got your counting is the way to go Yeah I think you're right Like I didn't actually think about that until I didn't think about it prior to it

Which I'm glad because then I would have maybe been like Oh how should I count these in my head? Should I count to 10 three times But the third time it's just really to nine And that's when you stop Well I think I think you've played it safe going, going the classic route there, one to

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Yeah. Those are a pain in the ass to clean up, actually, because then it goes inside, you know, it's got like coils and shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's probably the biggest beauty of the flat top invention is that there's nothing easy clean up.

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No matter what kind of stove you have, whether it's the little coil thing or the gas top or like a wood fire stove or, you know, whatever. We're fine with all stoves. What if your oven is separate from your stove top? Like you don't have a range. Then you live in the rich life. So when they're together, it's a range. Well, when they're separated. I just thought the top was called a range no matter what.

or is that not how it goes? I think the range is the combination. I'm not sure, though. I don't sound back and can anyone confirm? Is a range? So you're saying the top part by itself could be a range. Yeah, because if you Google a range top, you just get just those alone.

Okay. So the point being, it doesn't matter if they're separate. You could even have one of those double ovens that's in like the cabinet in the wall. Yep. Like the stacked ovens. Even that's fine. Yep, we'll allow that.

Yeah. And then the separate, is, where's your range, is your range in your island or in not in the island? Not in the island. I like it not in the island. I do too. I don't need, our island is just a freaking war zone. I don't need any other cooking parts of the cooking process to be added to that.

Yeah. Also, there's no good way to have a range hood in the island then. Not really, no, unless you're doing something really fancy. Well, yeah, you could have a really fan. You know, like that enormous metal hood that like, it's almost like a focal point of the room. Yeah. Yeah, you got a full on habachi grill in the middle of the room. Some guys that show up and cook around this circle.

I suppose you could even just maybe, you know, we have the different types of ovens and ranges and we, you know, they get mass economics. We have the gas one. You could even just, what are those called the guys grill on there where it's just the flat thing? You know, it's their outdoor grill, but it's just the flat top. Yeah, like a black stone or whatever. whatever. Yeah, blackstone. Yeah. Yeah, you could have a blackstone even. Maybe you're a bachelor and you're like, yeah, I don't really use that thing inside the kitchen. I just use my blackstone. Even then you could still become a supporting member. Yeah, even then, you know, maybe you just only smoke your foods, all your foods. Even then we'll still allow that too. Yeah. So how, what if you're really bacheloring it though and you just, you basically just use a George Foreman in the microwave? I got by many years with pretty much just using a George Foreman on microwave or a pizzazz.

I think the George Foreman has fallen out of favor. I think I would not be surprised if there's people in college. I have no clue what a George Foreman is now. And when I went to college, everyone in college had a George Foreman. Absolutely. We had one. It wasn't mine, but my roommate had one. So you think the George Foreman is dead.

I think it is. I don't know. Maybe I'm just so far removed from that. The George Foreman got taken. I think people not knowing George Foreman. Air fryer. I'd say the air fryer definitely did some work there. The air fryer is to 2020 as the George Foreman was to 2005.

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Although I don't feel like they cook the exact, they don't cook the same things, not in the same way, at least. No, it's very different. Yeah. One's like a little mini-pinini press at an angle. Big Ben said,

the Foreman Grill walked so the air friar could run. Basically. You know what the grossest part about the George Foreman Grill is, though? You never clean the damn thing. The grease trap. The greasy trap at the bottom. And it's just congealed grease. No, you never clean the George Farman.

It didn't come with a little cleaning fork thing to kind of like. Yeah, the plastic that was the shape of the tines were like, like that was the most you cleaned it is just dry. scrape. Or maybe you got like a paper towel once everything was like done and just kind of wiped it a little bit. Yes. Maybe that's the beauty of the George Foreman is it doesn't. It's like a, it's like a hooded sweatshirt. You never have to wash it. It's just like what do you call those pans? You know, the pans, you know, the pans that you don't wash. Oh, cast iron pan. Yeah, you keep it seasoned. Yeah, right, right. You got to keep your George, I thought you were saying pants.

I was like, I don't know, Corderoy? Yeah, yeah, it's, uh, yeah, you keep your George Form and grill seasoned at all times. That's the thing. Yeah, every, every family has its own secret little

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It was a bow tie? Oh, it was. Okay. Okay. I could not remember. Yeah. I couldn't remember who was that. So you did know that. Yeah. That was, that was a guess. That wasn't for certain. That was one of the harder questions where I'm like, I don't know what that is. Okay. Yeah. Thank you to our supporting members. Please consider joining up as a supporting member also. Like I said, it is the number one way that we keep on all of our various cooking devices, even panini makers. Okay. How about certified training facility? Yeah, do you have any preferences here?

Oh, I guess the last time I had written down the garage in North Carolina. N.C. I think that there was a picture there. Garage. Where is that at, though, now? That is the question. Because there is a few of them. The garage.

Charlotte. Charlotte, you're saying. Smack dab. Is there a picture? Yes. Yes, there is. we got a picture of the garage can you see it we got multiple pictures get six pictures up in oh okay we're good yeah we got all kinds of pictures that oh okay yeah I recognize this garage

yeah the garage uh big spooner yeah big spooner the garage okay the first one's kind of wide angle so we're gonna maybe skip past that just because it's because i think these next photos show it off just a touch better but it is in fact a garage in case people are wondering It looks like we got horse stall mats in most, pretty much the whole floor is covered. They appear to be the diamond plate horse stall mats from what I can tell. Hmm. Interesting choice. Talk to Keith about that one.

Yeah. Photo two, we have the rogue GHR and some type of leg extension machine behind that, right? Yep. I'm not sure what that one is, to be honest, but. Uh, photo three. A lot of plates up in there. We got strength co plates. We got, what are these strong man, kilo plate?

Oh, strong arm. Strong arm. Strong arm calibrated kilos and a whole big set of strength co plates. He's got a ton of plates. That is a lot of plates. Yeah. Especially when you consider the kilo ones too. That's, you can have a whole lot of people lifting in there with that much weight.

And it's two nice weight trees too, both are on wheels. Yep. Photo three, we got, oh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, Oh, man, I'm blinking. What do you call that belt squat? I don't know why I'm blanking on that, too. I was hoping you were going to say it. Squat max.

Squat max. Is it HD MD? Yeah, I was going to say MD. It could be HD2. I'm not sure. Yeah, the squat max. I still have never, have you ever got to use the squat max before?

I feel like I've messed around with it somewhere before. I got kind of turned off about it because when we got the rogue one and I posted just like a totally harmless. video on Instagram just of like hey check out the rogue rhino we got for the gym is pretty cool and like the squat max

people like commented and were like mad and were yeah no like the like the company oh the actual company oh and was like like touting all the reasons the theirs was better and I was like go away have we like

like what you before I was like that I was I was it was just so weird. I'm like, I'm not shit. Like, the fact that I own this doesn't mean I'm saying your sucks or something. This is just what I wanted. Like, why they were like mad. And I'm like, I don't even know who you are. Wow. Yeah, I do, I do not remember that at all. But I would love

to try the machine someday. It's kind of crazy. We've never been to, we've done all these gym tours. Not a single person has had one. I don't think anyone has that we've done in the tours yet, have they? Yeah. There seem fairly common, but we just really haven't come across them. Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, not a ton of people have the rhino either, but no. Yeah, it's surprising we have not actually seen one of these yet. So that would definitely be on my list to give one of those a try someday. We have a lap pull-down machine, and I'm not sure in a lower-row combo. Yeah, in a lower row.

I don't know if that's like bells. Looks like a nice one. Yeah, I'm not sure what one that is, though, but it does look nice. We got in the corner, we got barbells, some lift evil flags. Always good to see those. Water heater. Water heater, you got to have that. Some adjustable dumbbells.

I don't know if there's like the true laps or something like that. They got the spinning handle. It looks like where you can adjust the weights. I think as long as you don't drop those things, they're pretty decent adjustable dumbbells. Barbells, we got a trap bar. Is there like a football bar in there? A variety.

It looks like maybe a Texas bar or some kind of there. He's got that rolling, what's that thing called that you roll, that you like put your hands on and you can do ab. Oh, like a glit roller or. the glute roller or something yeah yeah i got one of those too i think everyone should have one of those it's a good good little thing to have your gym doesn't take up much space and you can do a few different things with it and then the last photo here is this last one yep yep yes last one we got the state of the arc combo rack in what do you call that pink and blue yeah and it looks cool uh yeah that is a statement

piece right there on a on a platform too platform just like he's got the tex a texas a texas power bar on there, too, if I had to guess. This collars sure looked like it. But that is a cool looking rack. And is that gym in North Carolina? I can't remember the story with that again. You mean the state of the arc guy? Sorry, sorry, sorry, the gym he got that combo from.

Yeah, he got that from the combo that Jackton and Ginger. He got that from the gym that Jackton Ginger lifts at, I think. Yeah. Where's that at, though? One of the Carolinas. Yeah, it sounds like I can never remember. I think it's from a more coastal area than Charlotte. Okay.

I don't know. I might be off on that. Just what I'm remembering. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of coming back to me now that you say that. See those wood blocks he screwed into his platform to keep his combo from sliding back. Yeah, you kind of got to do that if you're squatting, don't you? Yeah.

Especially I'm just wood like that. Yeah, it would want to slide on that wood platform otherwise. Yeah. Jake says it's the Palmetto Pump House is where it can. came from. Take his word on it. Palametto. Oh, yeah.

In Charleston. Okay, well, right there it was a local. Yep. It's the Charleston Chew Bar. So, what I'm wondering, though, about the garage is do you think you could get, so we couldn't determine this was a garage, Jim, if the name didn't give it away, the pictures did. But do you think you could get strong in the garage? Oh, hell yeah.

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to the Wapaka foundry with that iron ore? Oh, God. Don't say those things. We know it wasn't, though, because that was in Wisconsin. And as the song says, they're loaded up and headed to Cleveland, although that is not factually accurate. They were not headed to Cleveland. They were headed to Detroit.

Oh. So, okay. It wasn't either. Either case, it was not Wapaka that they were headed to. Yeah. Also would have been weird to go from Duluth to, you know. I think it left from, some might say Superior, Wisconsin. I would say Duluth because I'm more of a Minnesota guy than I'm a Wisconsin guy.

But suppose that's splitting hairs. Wow. Have you ever been to Superior, Wisconsin? No, I actually had to look. I didn't realize that's what that was called right there. Yeah, you just crossed that bridge. Yeah. And then you're in Superior.

Hmm. Did not know that. Yep. Little upper In Western United States Geography lesson for everyone this week. What do you think about some title topicing? Yeah, let's do it.

So we, do we kind of have two title topics? I think we have two things that we're going to cover. I think we got two title topics this week. Oh, wait. Do we get, we better kick everyone off. Oh my God, they're still in here. Before we tell everyone, the big Arnold news.

We better. Some people can't take a hint. Not just going to let these people get the big Arnold news, are they? It just felt like someone was breathing down my neck over here. We can't just let these live listeners hear all the good stuff. I got to

wait for something for when this episode comes out on recording. I can't believe that. It was made a podcast party follow there. We almost threw out the baby with the bathwater. It doesn't apply here, I don't think.

We almost cut our noses off to spite our faces. Yes. Spider face. Is that like a butter face? I'm familiar with the term butterface. Let's you say something about despite her face. Yeah. Okay.

Is everyone out of here? They are now. officially. All right, they're gone. Okay, finally, breathe a little sigh of relief now that those people are gone and relax a little and get loose. All right. What's, so are we going to give our big Arnold news now that we're 55 minutes into this show? Yes, we can finally hit him with it. Arnold, 26, huge announcement, what everyone's been waiting for. What do we got, Tanner? It's as big. We've got a big announcement about the Arnold 2026. We are not having a booth. We are making a booth. We are made the decision not to have a booth at the 2026 Arnold.

We're not going to have a booth at the 2026. When it comes to the 2026, Arnold, we are not going to have a booth. So he's saying that because, I mean, the plan is we will still be there in some capacity. Yeah. We're still going. We're just not going. to have a booth.

Just that. Just that. And why? How did we get here? What in the hell happened? There's a number of things we talked about. Because we've had a booth at the Arnold every year that you could since like 2018. Yeah.

I mean, you could say it's starting the first year that we had a booth in 2018 and we went, what, two years before that even, 2016 and 17. You could say starting in 2018, that was what our entire year revolved around was the Arnold. Like it was the best thing ever. Like it was the most exciting thing ever. It was the time we had some big sales. We had big sales days as far as number of units moving.

We got to meet a bunch of people. We got to, you know, make some content, some connections out of it. It was just, it was a huge deal for us then. And over time, as things have gone on, we've just started to have so much of our own stuff going on that the Arnold has started to feel like less and less, I shouldn't say less of a priority, but less important than it used to. Yeah.

And then in the grand scheme of things for sure, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, it's, and don't get wrong. Like, that's what we say we're still going, is that it still is a thing, but we just have so many,

so many things going on over here, you know. That's just, with everything going on. But between, you know, the trips, you know, just if we, if we like, if we got home gym tour trips, what do we got?

We'll finish this year with, like six of those maybe. That we have home gym con. We have the our own meet, the Lyft Hard Libbyz classic. We have crew falls. I mean, it's to the point where we have so many events and things taking,

it's almost monthly. There's a massonomics event taking place of some kind. So with all that, the Arnold starts to feel like not as, are not as pivotal to what takes place in the year. And then finally the last piece of it is just, it gets more and more expensive. every single year, every single year.

And we still, I mean, don't get me wrong, we still make money. But what makes it a challenge with us more than a lot of people is that it's just such a time commitment. And it starts from the t-shirt designs, having to have extra t-shirt designs made and ready to go for the Arnold, placing those orders, Tanner folding t-shirts, thousands of t-shirts ahead of time, packing up a trailer, and then driving, what is it, 2,000 miles there, 1,800 miles there. And that's the real, the real killer is that by the time, by the time Tanner leaves his

house, gets me, we hit the road. I mean, it's like seven days. And that's just kind of what we always tell, like, as the time has got on, we're like, oh, sweet, yeah, we made money, great. This is, this is cool. And then we're like, well, but if you just consider you, to work for a very very cheap rate yeah for a solid week

like 10 hour days for seven straight days if you just consider what your hourly rate would be it's like ah yeah I'd have to be it paid a lot for someone to convince me to do something like that and so that's just it's just made it harder to to be excited about that part of it as time has gone on and flying as an option and shipping it actually probably costs us a little more. It saves us some time. Yeah. It costs us a little more. Also, it takes more things out of our hands.

Yeah. Which is true. You know, it's not a great option either. No, it's not. It's, yeah, it's, I mean, yes, it would be an option. When we were doing the math, it's, okay, you save on some hotels and definitely you save on gas and, you know, you're saving on some food. But then you're paying that much more in shipping and airline tickets and car rentals and some other. Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's also like reliant on us kind of calling it. And it. Yeah, it's also like, reliant on us kind of calling in some favors. And we know people would step up, but it's also the thing of it's annoying to be a burden on other people. And then you do all that.

And yeah, it costs more money. And then it's the same thing again. Well, we just save some time, but now we're making even less money again. And we just kind of talked it over and we're like, do we need to do this?

Do we need to do this as an exhibitor? It was our question. Well, the straw that kind of, literally the straw that broke, the camel's back was that they raised the prices again, as they do most times. And in the sense that it broke the camel's back that the increased price, although it not an enormous increase, like it just being like 15% was enough for me to really want to run

through the numbers again and be like, okay, let's just put this on paper. Even though we do it every year, we get like, let's do it again and just be like, does this even make any sense? Like if you really think about the numbers and what and stop factoring in so much for the good, you know, because it's always like the exposure. That's what we said. It's a marketing opportunity.

It's exposure. Right. Those are things without a doubt. But we also, like we were saying, do a lot of things to account for that now too. Right. We get that exposure in other ways. So it's not quite as we don't have to do it for the exposure. But honestly, the booth for our little 10 foot by 10 foot square.

just the booth this year is going to be like $4,200 just to be able to occupy that 10 foot by 10 foot spot, which is kind of wild. Like, and here's my gripe on the Arnold that, a that that it goes up at, like when we started going, that used to cost $2,500 to $3,000. And then you say, well, it's like a thousand dollars more or a little more than a a thousand dollars more it's not that much but it is just kind of a it's like oh 100 more dollars this year 200 more dollars this year a hundred more dollars this year after a while you're like god does this what's going on forever right right and um so that's that a is my grape number one grape number two

what they've changed over the years is that everything else there is so much more expensive for the well that's the attendees that's the thing is the Arnold and the Strongman take so much off the top of people visiting the show. Like, right. It used to be you go to the Arnold, you paid, I think it was like 40 bucks. You had the weekend. You were in. You got to do the stuff outside.

You got to watch the Strongman. Yeah, outside of like the bodygoing finals at the grand. Yeah, but a lot of people don't want to go to that. Right. But still or whatever it is. But for the most part, though, you paid the 40 bucks. You got in for the whole weekend. You got to see everything.

You got to watch the strong man outside of the finals. Like there was a ton of stuff you could do for $40. And now you look at the tickets and it's like, damn, if you want to get the Arnold experience, you kind of need to be ready to drop hundreds of dollars. And I'm not saying it's not worth it, but all that does is take the money out of ever reaching our hands now. Like they're just siphoning that off the top because, you know,

I think a lot of people still go in with, okay, it's Arnold weekend. I have my $200. Yep. or whatever it is. Yeah, my numbers, what is it, $100, $300, $300 in fun money once I get there. And the second you walk in the door, the Arnold has already taken one to 300 of that,

depending on what you decided to do. And it just leaves so much little, those are so little for all the exhibitors that are actually selling stuff. There's also, there's been a mass exodus, in my opinion. Of the little guy. A boost like ours.

Yeah, the little guy doesn't, isn't really a thing at the Arnold anymore. And that's kind of what's, changed it a little bit. A lot. That's what changed a lot of it. When we first went, there was a ton of 10 by 10, 10 by 20 booths.

And the mega huge crazy booths. That was the, that consumed like 80% of the place is what it felt like to me. You just went, it was just aisle after aisle of 10 or 20 foot booths. Yeah. And it was any, I mean,

tons of apparel companies, equipment companies, people that make different things in the fitness space. And now that's just been consolidated so heavily to your supplement companies. Rogue, SPD. Right. A few huge mega companies like your giant rogue SBD.

And then like your enormous apparel companies that have 100 grand plus to spend on a booth. Right. And that's that's a major part of what the Arnold is now. Like there's just not as many of these smaller time companies doing it. And I guess it's not even, uh, maybe it's not, like I'm taking. it's a complaint. It's not really my complaint. It's just kind of the matter of fact. It's just changed. What they've created is that's what it's like now. Like, yeah, there's really not room. I mean, we could do it still. It just doesn't make any sense like from us. Like it doesn't, it's really stressful and a ton of work.

So time consuming. It'd be, it'd be way different if we lived within eight hours. We would just wake up. You know, we could just wake up on Thursday whenever, drive there, set up Thursday night, do the whole thing. And we'd get home Sunday night. We'd be on Thursday night, Friday night. We'd be on three nights. That's an entirely different thing than driving for roughly 20-some hours there and back. And then hoping there's no snow or weather or anything like that. Right.

And, I mean, that's a whole different ballgame. But just how far away we are that it makes it, it makes it a headache. It makes it a challenge. but I still come back to them running to raise the price just even a little bit more feels like the straw that breaks the camel's back where I'm just like no you just

you did it too much you did too much we're out like mercy that's because I don't think they're bringing in I mean I don't think they're bringing in bigger crowds they would probably say they are but oh they say they are every year yeah every year we were there in 2018

I've never seen anything like that in 2018 like that was you couldn't go anywhere I still have not seen an Arnold like that. I think if you ask that, well, there's also been, I think, like, three or four different exhibitor company or, you know, it's different like every year. Yeah, management companies that run the thing. So, yeah, I think it's just the thing of every year is the biggest year ever, but you know, they're not bringing in from what I can tell more people. And then like we were saying, the people that they are bringing in, they're siphoning the money off the top before they get

to use. So there's less disposable income to go around at the end anyways. When we're fortunate we have a bunch of fans of us that are going to come there and are going to support us no matter what. So that's great. But it is just way harder for us to just pick up like the non-fan yet. It's just harder to do there because of those reasons. And I like the Arnold. I like being at the Arnold and it's fun. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for us to have a booth anymore.

Yeah. Yeah. It's. I mean, we could. We still could if we wanted to do all that work for like if the non-tangibles, if we can value those enough for it. But we're kind of saying, so we're kind of saying we don't. So then we're coming to what our actual plan is probably going to be is roughly

be there for at the Arnold for probably a day and a half or something like that. We want to be there for, you know, most of Saturday probably because it's the prime day. And then that way, like last year, we did a Saturday evening meal meetup with all the Massonomics crew. Then we can still do that. Still go to the Eagles Nest and do that exact same thing. I would love to do that. Go out with everyone. And by doing that, we also can probably do some gym tours and stuff too.

So we got different ideas, you know, potentially we like fly into a different city even the day prior. get a few tours. Do some gym touring on the way, get there, maybe do a video at the Arnold, depending on the situation. And potentially go watch some strong man stuff. Right. You know, we've never actually like. Yeah, actually like. Really got to see that outside of like 2016, 2017.

Right. And depending on who does have boosts there, it's also not impossible. We could set up like a crew meetup time somewhere. Yeah. You know, we could do like, hey, we're going to be at whatever booth and put it all out there. and make sure everyone comes. Maybe we do like two of those or one of those throughout the day

where everyone specifically comes to hang out then. Yeah. So that's, I'm feeling way better about that plan. It takes an enormous burden and time suck off of our hands for the first few months of the year. The booth is a lot. All that being said,

the booth is a lot of fun and there is part of that I'll miss. Like just the, it is really, really, like, yeah, we're not saying anything bad about once we're there. We're having a great time. Like, right. It is just all of the work that comes on the front and back end of it that's right. Where it's like, oh, we can just fly in, do video, you know, do our video thing and also still hang out with all of those people.

Yep. So all the crew that comes there, we can still, we just find somewhere different to hang out with them. And we can like watch stuff with them and we can walk around and actually hang out. And you and me either don't have to rely on volunteer work to man the booth while we're gone. or take shifts where it's like, no, I've been gone a while, you can go do a thing. And we can take this on more as Massonomics versus, you know, splitting our time as much there too. Right. That's a good point.

That's a good point. And, yeah, like what you said to not having to, I mean, people have come to, I think, enjoy helping at the booth over the years, too. You know, so it's not really a big ask for that. But we don't have to call in favors this time to do that, though, too, which is kind of. Yeah, and we have been super grateful of everyone. and that's helped. There is a core group of guys that are just, they could just run the big

and run the whole thing without us. We don't even need to be there. But we also don't want to be in the business of relying on and taking advantage of volunteer labor for everything, you know? Minnie and Eddie and some of those guys have, I mean, they could friggin,

we could set it up and be like, yeah, you're good to go for the day and you'd probably come back 10 hours later. And they'd be like, yeah, we got it. They'd be holding it down still. I know. Yeah, Minnie and Rachel and, and Kevin's been there a lot.

Yeah, I mean, you couldn't even hardly name them all. But it has been, it is a little weird because it's been such a piece of massonomics, but it's like, we're still going to be there. It's not that the Arnold isn't a thing. It's just different this time. Yeah, we just won't be selling T-shirts. And it really does allow us to focus more on some of the other stuff that we think is probably becoming a growing priority.

Also, just straight up knowing that we're going to have the booth at home gym con this year. I'm like, oh, it's slightly a moderate, you know, not saying it's a substitution, but it's just like a more targeted audience of people that really do care about Masonomics. I'm not saying there's, like, there's definitely people, you know, at the Arnold that care, but there's a ton of people that like,

I just want that beer shirt. I don't care. Well, right. Right. So attending the Arnold will still be there. It still is a checkmark on your Hall of Fame card. That's not going away. Always has been.

Yeah, if you're a Masonomics supporting member, the Arnold still is. a checkmark. But the big question would be is do we make that a slash at some point and say that checkmark is attend the Arnold or Home GymCon?

Hmm. Right. Especially now that we are going to have the home JimCon booth. I can see that. Yeah, I was not thinking about that. But yeah, I could you know, we don't change that card very often. I could see that we've never changed that card. Okay. Scratch that. We never changed that card. But I could see making a change here.

But if that's what we do, it's not retroactive home gym con. It's going forward. Going forward. Because you could have went to home gym con like the year we didn't even go. Yeah. And that, you know, and like. Yeah, that's fair. It has to be 2026 on.

2020. Yeah, it's, you know, the Arnold over our tenure there and continuing. I also don't really picture us not going to that in the future. we'll probably always continue to, you know, go and do the type of thing. But it's just, I think, I'm wondering if it should be slash home gymcon 2026 and forward. I could be talked into that pretty easily. Because they're comparable in some ways. Somewhat similar areas of the country.

And you also could say, well, if we're not going to have a booth there at the Arnold, maybe there's slightly less incentive for some of these people to come to it. Yeah. But then we have the booth at home gym con. more incentive to come there. Uh-huh. Yeah, we'll come up with official ruling on that, but I think we could be trending in that direction.

Something to think about. I think we'll save this top one. Okay, before we jump into it. I think we'll save this top one for another time because that did take a little longer than I thought. So that was our title topic. Yeah, so just a single title topic this week. Okay.

Not the double title topic that people were hoping for. No, we're changing it up. We're just probably going to move this title topic to next week now. That's the thing. about the Massonomics podcast, there's always next week. Yes, there is. Death taxes in the Massonomics podcast. That is the same.

The Rapid City Journal. It's been noted. Was that, was that episode? Did we talk about the Rapid City Journal article? I don't think we have, because I think that was just a few days ago. Yeah, that was just this weekend. You said it to me, yeah. Crew member, Big, Big Chris Hornick put out the Rapid City.

It's Rapid City Journal. Journal, I think, right? Or so, yeah. I think it's, I think it's, ooh. Now, you got me second guessing myself. I could have it wrong. I think it's a Rapid City Journal, right? I don't know.

Yeah, I'll find out in a second here. Probably should give them the proper credit on. Yeah, Rapid City Journal. Got a side of our sources. Yeah, Rapid City Journal. Big Chris wrote an article on the Massaomics podcast, episode 500. Making its rounds on Facebook, a lot of, a lot of people on Facebook checking out that article.

Very well-written article. You can always tell one in someone in the massonomics inner circle that writes something about massonomics where things actually make sense. It's just words that maybe are related. It actually is sensical. Well, they tried and it kind of makes sense. I see what they're trying to do, but I can tell they don't actually know what massonomics is. You lifted 10,000 pounds. Like, well, it's like, well, sure.

But it's just big numbers. That was a very good article about episode 500. Uh-huh. Yeah, so check that out. Rapid City Journal. Let me just Google Rapid City Journal. Massonomics. I think that'll get you there.

Yeah. Also a reminder, Crew Falls is coming up soon. Did you put this as a reminder in here? Yeah, I did add that again because time is a tickin. You can still get signed up on Massanomics.com. You go to our company and events tab. There's an events tab where you can get signed up for Crew Falls.

It doesn't cost anything, but we just need a head count to know who to expect. It's a weekend full of fun activities. we're kind of hammering out some of the details about the grip gauntlet challenge for 2025. We got the Grand Prize Award has been ordered. Maybe we won't spoil that yet, but it's good this year. It is good. If you're going to, if you're showing up, you're going to be taking your grip seriously that weekend.

Yeah, it'll be the grand prize winner. I think there's going to be four grip events that'll make up the grip guntlet challenge this year. More info on those four events to come. going to be Saturday lifting at Los Campiones, and then Saturday night evening, we're going to Remedy Brewing Co. That's where the group is going out to eat and have drinks. There'll be other things like Friday afternoon.

There's a Pizza Ranch meet up and then grip party at my house. Yeah. So is the garage ready for the chalk fiesta? I got to do a few to clean it up. I got to, um, I got to get my horse stall mats in order, you can say. Yeah. So got a little time still.

Figuratively and literally. Yeah. Yes. Yes, exactly. So do you get signed up for Crew Falls if you can either fly. It's flying into Sioux Falls is actually usually pretty convenient and relatively affordable for most places. So.

Yeah. Okay. What do we want to go to next? Let's look at just on the equipment side of things quick. The, this gets into the home gym nerd scene a little bit. So if you're not in the loop. But at Tanner, you were able to make it to home gym con this year. I was not, but it seemed like the star of the show was the dialed motion.

What do they call it the dial motion? Leg developer. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it was, everyone was hyping up. It was the star of the show. Yeah. And for people that don't know, it's basically a leg curl, leg extension attachment that goes on the end of your bench.

And you can attach it to a cable stack. So you can have the basically the feeling of a select drive. leg extension leg curl machine and this whole system is all integrated it works really well it's compact

and it's a way to cool engineering like actually engineered and produced really really well from what I could see like it looked like a really impressive piece of equipment and everyone was hyping this thing up

it really does seem like it's the real deal and you could just tell that this small team of guys that put stuff out that with the demand they have, it would be a logistical nightmare for them to ever catch up to demand or fulfill these orders

with the team that they had in place because I don't think they have a whole lot of people on their team. I think it's just the two brothers. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised maybe they have someone helping them fulfill orders or something, but it's not like they have teams of employees

and working on stuff. Right. And it sure seemed like when this thing, when this product comes out, they will need teams of employees to get this thing done. But it has, has finally been announced that rep is teaming up with dialed motion to release this leg developer.

And it has been extended out to next year. I think they said like November of 26 or something. But they did also make several comments that we are under promising and hope to over deliver on that. So who knows, maybe Home GymCon. It's right strategy. Yeah. Maybe next summer it comes out. I guess I'm 30, 36.

I've made it my whole life without this thing. I could wait another year. It's, my legs are getting strong without it. It's not the end of the world. They're still developing. They're still developing. So it would be, it would be cool to have this thing. I'd love to just try it.

You know, I haven't even got to try it yet. But I guess we'll stay tuned and see what happens with this one. Well, and speaking of leg development in home gym nerds, the weeks, this week's YouTube video, well, last week's that came out was Evan Centipani's. That gym tour is freaking awesome. It might be like, we've, maybe we talked about this last week. just to touch on again, it's so good. If you haven't watched the Evans and Tabani home gym tour, there's so many elements of it that are so good.

Everything comes together. It's almost like a perfect home gym tour. That's exactly what I was going to say. I can't even, if you tell me why is this good, it'd be like, it'd be easier to come up with a list of why this is bad because that list is smaller. Like everything, it's the whole vibe of Evans gym is amazing. Evan is obviously amazing.

He gives the perfect answers, like the perfect amount of context. They're good. They're interesting. They're not too long. They're not too short. It's fun and funny, but also, like, informative and, like, really good anecdotes. Like, I personally think filming-wise, it's one of our best-looking gym tours ever. Like, it's shot so well.

The audio is good. Like, just everything about that gym tour is so good. And it came out, and it was off to a little bit of a slow start. And we're like, what does the world want from us? Like, why can't this? Like, what's going on here? And that was on Thursday. and it did fine.

It just wasn't, like the level of excitement we had for it, it didn't match it. And then Saturday it went on a little bit of a run on YouTube. And now it's gotten some good views on it. And we're really happy with the spot that it's in. And it's still pulling in views. So it's cool to see a ton of really good comments on that one. Oh, and that's the thing. There's a lot of comments on there.

Nothing but positive to, like, as it should be because it is a, it is just a really good. video and nothing but positive comments. Like not a single negative comment in that whole video. You know, obviously people like Evan a lot. So a lot of great comments on Evan. But the, oh,

it's just really refreshing to see a gym not totally packed with rogue and rep and prime. Right. Right. You know, like seeing different stuff or hearing a guy that has a ton of experience, talk about like just so much good things. And yeah, like that is how we felt about the video.

So it's really good to see that that did get received that way. It's reassuring, yeah, to get that feedback. Yeah. So seriously, check that one out. I mean, I kind of love all of our gym tours, I guess, but it's a good one. It's just, it has a vibe to it that the other ones don't have. I shouldn't say that ones don't have, but that a lot can't match. It's, it's impressive.

And then the video coming out that's out by the time this podcast episode comes out is going to be your review. Did you mention, I think you mentioned last week what the piece of equipment you got. I think, was that all? Did we just say what it was and that was it? I couldn't remember. I don't think we said very much, but it's the, what is it, the GMWD, L-E-O-8, 2.0. Leg-E-O-8. Leg-2.0. Leg-E-Ctention.

And this one caught our attention because I saw a video on Instagram. It was Matt Pendergraf. And he had it shot. It was sleek. It was cool the way he had this thing shot. And it caught my attention like, ooh, what's going on here? and look it up, find this GMW, because GMWD, it's like some budget Amazon company, right?

Like they, they don't make cool stuff, do they? And go on their website, find this machine. It looked really impressive. And we reached out to them saying we wanted to do a review. They said, yeah, we'll send you guys a unit. Got that thing set up probably now at this point, month and a half ago, something like that. So I've been using it a ton.

And I don't know, I don't know how much of the video we want to recap or cover. but the machine, it's freaking awesome. Yeah, watch the video. Yeah, watch the video. Okay, I'll say two things about the video if you haven't seen yet. The review ended up being 20 minutes somehow, which is surprising how long it is. It's like the first video in a very long time that I did completely alone. Tanner was not here for it.

But Bryce does make a little cameo appearance in there. The perfect little sweetie. Yes, it's pretty funny. It stacks up to the big boy. We did a fun little edit for his appearance. I don't know if you probably haven't got to see it yet. Have you? I just put it out there actually.

I put it in YouTube this afternoon. Oh, okay. Damn. I do want, I really got to see that. Yeah, we did a fun little intro for how Bryce shows up, which when I was editing.

So is it the intro of the video or the intro of Bryce? It's probably at like the 14 minute mark when he appears. And it's just like editing. I'm like, this is so stupid. Like Massonomics people are going to love it. And everyone else would be like, what the hell is this?

What is this part of the video here? Like it went from just a guy being in his garage kind of talking to like being this weird overly animated guys hanging out. It takes a weird turn, which is anyone else doing it, it'd be very confusing, but I think from Asanomics, it's on brand and it works. But yeah, it was a fun video to make. And the piece is really impressive.

So do you like having it in your... The only thing I don't like about is it's just really big. It takes up a full horse stall mat, you know? It's a big piece of equipment. But if you want to do legacy, extensions and leg curls, there's not a lot of machines that don't take up a lot of room if you're going to do that. So do you enjoy being able to do the leg extensions? I'll say this. I've done more leg extensions in the last month than I have actually done in my entire life. I typically don't do a whole lot of, I typically almost never do leg extensions, what I had the option. But when it came to machines outside of like a lap pull-down machine, my go-to machine in a gym was a leg curl machine. That's what I felt like I was missing the most. Yeah. And if you were to ask me what I think is one of my weak points, I would say my hammies are a weak point. and that's why this machine, it checked two of those boxes,

one of my favorite machines and an area that I think I could use help in. And so that's what really made this thing enticing to me. And like when I do this machine, I'm so much stronger on leg extensions than leg curls. And I don't know if that's all machines or just this one. But yeah, yeah, I've been hitting it pretty hard lately. So I have enjoyed having this thing in the rotation. Is it a forever piece in my gym?

That's what I was going to ask. Do you think you keep it because of the, like, the space is the negative. That's the negative. But I've also have kind of moved things around that it's not in the way at all. It's just, it does just take up a lot of space. But it is a really nice piece of equipment. Like at the end of the day it is. And it has, I can talk about all this in the video,

but it has the benefit of not being selectorized, which means if I do need to move it, I can. It's not just like a cheap piece of equipment that you just pick up and move. like you got to kind of slide it one net at a time but it is movable so if I ever do need to re-array, like when I'm shooting the video I slide it out into the middle of my gym and film it and when I'm done I push it back and if I have a selectorized piece like you're not really doing that like that's an that's an ordeal on horse stall mats moving selectorized equipment oh yeah yeah well I guess it also could come down to if you ever if there's ever something else

that you wanted more than that would be it would be the it would be like someday the GM are that's sorry, the dialed motion thing. Like if that bet it became an option. But even there, you know, you're talking about something that's a year out. And then I have the AB 5200 bench. That doesn't have their receiver post on the top. Right. So to ever make that work.

Yeah, they're talking about like, yeah, you can maybe make it work if you're comfortable doing some drilling into your bench, either through the metal or the pad. And I mean, does that ever actually come to fruition and be a thing? Or do they just, or is now that reps on board, they're like, that's a liability nightmare. We're not messing with that because that would surprise me, you know, if a company of their size. Rep must be planning on doing something, though, with them being on board with their newer bench. That's what that nighthawk bench has that post and like their zero gap bench, I think has that post too. Maybe they'll come out with a reasonable way to retrofit the other ones.

Well, that would be nice because now that they are, you know, they've sold a ton of those AB 5200. That's what I'm saying. Because if they want to sell that leg developer, the fact, the easiest way to sell it would be make it so everyone can put it on their AB 5200. because there's so many of those out there. I still, though, now, after having a dedicated machine for it, I'm just, I don't know. Like the dial motion thing from everyone I can tell, it is a great piece.

But if you had to go to that, do you think it would feel pretty inferior to your dedicated machine? See, that's what I think it would. I mean, just when I look, the seat alone. I think it would. Like, just look at the seat, you know, on leg extensions. When you're doing leg extensions, the front of the seat on the machine I have might be 28 inches.

is wide. You know, it widens out big time. So there's a ton of support for your legs. On the dialed motion one, it's the width of your bench, which is what's 12 inches or whatever. Like it might actually be half the width. So I don't really think it can compete with the dedicated machine. It's just the state. It's the trade off of where do you want to trade off? Yeah, there's that. And then also, you know, they have solved by using the cable system. You can keep that even tension throughout the lift. But the GMWD machine, it's not the standard. Just throw a weight on a peg and lift it up. It has. this weird kind of like lever system where it's it's weighted the whole way through so I as

amazing as the dial motion one is I don't think it ever the only thing it it can definitively beat it on is the space savings right um but I just I now that I have a dedicated machine it I think it would be hard to give that up at some point so we'll see love to get one in the gym when the time comes love to get one in the gym and test it you know like and do a review like that would right obviously be high on our list but um it's like all things just typically dedicated machines are better at doing dedicated tasks. Right. So go watch that review, everyone.

Tell us if you like Bryce in the video. And we do have an affiliate link for GMWD. Do if you're thinking about you watch the review and you're like, okay, I got to get one of these. I think the machine costs like $1,000. It's about $1,000. So it's not cheap.

It's also not expensive in comparison to higher end home gym options. Yeah, this, And that is, that's the challenge with this machine is there's the really cheap stuff. That's 400 bucks is. Yeah. Then there's the premium stuff, which is typically selectorized machines that start around $2,500 and go out from there. And then you have this machine sitting at $1,000.

And it's in this weird no man's land of price where it's like Titan kind of has one. That's like 700-ish. Gronk Fitness has one that's like 700-ish. I did see Bells of, I just got an email the day. Bells of Steel came up with one for like 13. 100. And I love bells of steel, but a machine looks pretty inferior to what GMWD has at $1,000. Like the GMWD one looks a lot more compelling just from what I could tell. So it's in a weird middle ground, but that's up to you to decide how you want to spend your budget on your gym.

But if you do, check out our affiliate page. We have a whole bunch of affiliates and discount codes on the page. That's massanomics.com slash affiliates. Just go to our homepage and click affiliates at the top of the page. GMWD is on there, of course, but then also every other single brand that we've mentioned here today, whether we've mentioned rogue, rep, bells of steel, dial motion, I mean literally the Strength Co. Yeah. Basically every equipment company that we mentioned prime fitness on here, then a whole bunch that we didn't mention like PRX, tons of them.

we have, if not an actual discount code, we have an affiliate link. So we'd love for you, if you're considering buying any new equipment to click through those affiliate links, when you purchase something, we get a little bit of a kickback from the company. You don't have to do it, obviously, but we'd love it if you do because it helps us keep our pinini makers plugged into the wall. And pinini makers running. Yeah. It helps keep our, it lets us. our George Foreman Grills walk so that our air friars can run.

Do you have an air fryer? We do have an air fryer. Yeah. Everyone's got an air friar, don't they? Yeah. Air frayers are kind of big. They are. They are big.

It's just they're great for like the kids. A lot of kid meals go in that air fryer, you know? Hey, the, a good old pizzazz always worked pretty good too. Yeah. That's also what I, I would be curious how many people nowadays know what a pizzazz is, you know? Huck Finn's always taught. He always has a pizzazz. Do you guys have one right now?

No, no. I mean, I haven't had a pizzazz in like 20 years. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why? But why did everyone love it and now nobody uses them? I think it was in that George Foreman thing of like just people kind of getting sold on the kind of gimmicky kitchen stuff. And it was fun. I think they're all gimmicky and they just all come in and out of favor.

I think so. Like at some point in time people like in 20 years would be like, oh, remember when we all had air. I was just going to say, I don't think air fryers will ever go out, but there was definitely people that said the same thing about pizzazzes and George Foreman's though. That's right, right. I don't know. The air fryer, though, it's kind of like a microwave, but it gets your food crispier. Well, I guess the microwave is the gold standard. Yeah, it's hard to not have a microwave. You become so good that you become one of the core appliances. You get upgraded from from kitchen gadget to core appliance. That's what happened to the microwave. Yeah,

it's part of a kitchen. You have your range stove, a fridge, and a microwave. Like that's the microwave transcended kitchen gadget. Yeah. Like it cuts ahead, like, it cuts ahead of a dishwasher for sure, you know, as far as the priority list goes. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

You have to have a microwave. But microwave's not negotiable. Yeah. Like you can't live and not have a microwave. Can you? I mean, you can, but I think there's a lot of people that would starve to death that they didn't have a microwave. I haven't not had a microwave forever ever in my life.

Like I just, I think we've always said. I don't think we're in our college dorm. We were not allowed to have them and we hit a microwave in our college dorm and had one. I'm like, yeah, we're not going to not have a microwave.

Yeah, we did. We actually hit it under like a towel and a spot. And like, like yeah, we're having a microwave, dumbasses. Like,

we'll die without this. I need to heat up my, rabbiot my chef boy hardee Ravioli and I need to do it in the comfort of my own room I've not walked down the hall to a communal microwave what are we savages I have some very important nutrition intake I need and this microwave is essential to that

happening my hot pockets will be going in my personal microwave in this molten sleeve here so that's the YouTube recap right Mm-hmm. Oh, the affiliate links, though. Yeah, check out the affiliate links so we can have a microwave.

I think we probably got to wrap up with a sports and books segment, don't we? Yep, one of the fastest growing segments of this show. Sports and books. We need some sports and books music. Is that typically Buck Cherry or what? I think so. I think so, right? Thank you, Buck Cherry.

You know, when you hear Buck Cherry, that means it's time for sports. and books. One of the fastest reoccurring segments on the Massonomics podcast. All right. Typically, you know, the title of the segment is sports and books. So you would start with the former,

in this case, Tanner, if we're going to. Not the latter. Not the latter. We would start with the former. I head to the foreground. I don't have a ton to report on sports.

The Vikings sometimes I think maybe they're good. And sometimes I think they're bad. And right now I think they're probably bad. outside of that. Did the NBA start, Tanner? NBA has started. The beginning of the NBA season is not relevant. I mean, even the halfway point in the NBA season isn't really relevant.

It doesn't really, it quite honestly doesn't start until Christmas. That's when you can start. That's when you're allowed to start paying attention to the NBA as Christmas. No earlier. And I like the NBA, obviously. So college basketball started too. That was recently a thing. I'm excited for the first local home.

college basketball game, but their first home game is late this season. Is it? Yeah. Like what's late? Oh, like almost Thanksgiving. Oh, really? Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So, uh, there was, I thought something popped up in sports, like maybe a more obscure sport that I had in mind for the sports and book segment, but, um, maybe I'm making that up. F1 seasons winding down. Got about two races left there. Um, yeah, I mean, obviously college football is the crazy thing, but, but.

Yeah, enough. Other people talk about college football. We don't need to get that one too. So I don't know. I think it's kind of the wide world of sports right now, isn't it? I guess otherwise in terms of strongman, the rogue. Oh, yeah. Rogue Inventational in Aberdeen, Scotland went on and Mitch Hooper won that.

Oh, he did. I actually didn't see who won. Yeah. I think Big Trey got second. All right. Actually, Trey Mitchell got second. So Hooper was back and better than ever. apparently getting first place Thor was hurt and kind of backed out or didn't not saying like he

pushed out all the time saying like he was hurt and couldn't compete yeah and I think tray uh tray got second okay so there's sports okay strong man there is aberdeen scott in the dean the sister city scotland yep yeah things are getting crazy in the dean yeah do they call it do you think they call it anyone calls it the dean in scotland i assume most of them yeah like that they probably yeah getting wild in the dean scotland Scotland, Scottland Dean. Okay, books. Well, I got some stuff to report here.

I have finished Project Hail Mary. Okay. What's your final rating or review? It was a really fun read. It felt like to me how it just felt like this book is destined to be a movie. And obviously it is. I agree. It's coming out, you know, like it is a thing.

But I'm reading this. It's written to be a movie. Exactly. Like I'm reading it like, this guy wrote this to be a movie. Like it's probably right like that's probably actually what happened right because he made the martian first right wasn't that the I think so and then that became a movie and you just think oh man yeah he had he had to be like yeah I know how this goes no right that's and that's not a knock against it like that that's my way of saying it was entertaining it was fast-paced and just as far as a good old sci-fi kind of action adventure thriller it's one of those things too where the puzzle pieces come together

I would say not knowing a thing. I'm so glad I didn't watch any trailers or know anything about this because I went into this 100% blind and I did not expect any of the direction that they took with this. Like I thought it was going to be a very different style of book and that changed and I'm like, oh, this is even fun or now. Like this is even more fun. This is cool. I think the ending is pretty pretty cool. That also really. I'm like, see, this is where the audio book experience would be different.

different than the, well, not totally, but then the book book is that in the book, I'm like, there's like this many pages left. It feels like there's a lot that needs to happen here. Yeah. And what happened was not what I was expecting. Like, it was like, oh, okay, they really got me there. All right. But it was fun.

I would recommend it to anyone. The Martian is, I've never seen the Martian. I don't know a thing about that. That is absolutely on my reading list now. So that will, that will be a thing. But, you know, getting into this reading thing. I got to expose myself to a variety of things. I can't go right back to Andy Weir again and go on the margin.

There's a bigger world out there. So we made the trip to Barnes & Noble the other day, and I picked up some books. And I won't say all of them that I got to because we'll get to those eventually. But I think I said last week that high on my list was Stephen King. And so I picked up. Did you get a Stephen King book? I did pick up a few Stephen King books because a couple of these are a lot shorter. Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption,

the body, which is what stand by me. That's the name of the actual book was Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption. Sorry, just Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption. And it's the most confusing thing because I'm like, is this two different books? What's going on here? These things seem like they're not related at all.

No, I mean, if anyone that's even just familiar with the movie, the name is, but I'm like, really, that made it to the title of the, I'm not familiar with the movie.

Like, that's the thing is I was also going into this pretty blind, but, So I got that. I got the body, which is what standby me is based on. And I also got the Green Mile for Stephen Kingbrook. So I didn't really go in the horror route. I got his other ones here.

But so I got those. That was yesterday. And we get home and put the kids to bed. And Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption is like 110 pages long. Really? That's all the longer. It's all the longer it is. And I think it must be because when I looked on Goodreads, it said on Goodreads,

It said it's 180 pages. So maybe this version, the pages are a little bigger. The font's a little smaller. But the version I got, it's 110 pages long. And so I get the kids put to bed. They got to bed a little earlier. And I start reading it. And it was good.

It was interesting. But I was actually getting kind of tired. And I'm like, well, I've kind of got to a good spot here. But I need to take the dog for a walk. And so I took the dog for a walk. And it's a little chilly out. So it kind of woke me up again. I'm like, I'll sit down and read a little more.

Finish the damn book in one city. I read the whole thing at once. I've never done that in my life. And, man, what a book. That is, that is a classic. That is absolutely a classic. I've never watched the movie. I kind of knew what happened at the end because it's just like one of those movies,

you know, like it's. Yeah. You've got to watch the movie. Now I really, yes, now I really do have to watch the movie. But, um, uh, man, what a book. It's a, it's a classic for a reason. It was good. I really liked it.

I could definitely recommend that to people. So I'm curious if you watch the movie. because I've never read the book and I've seen the movie a million times. It's one of my favorite movies. But the book only being 110 pages, I'm like, they really had to,

they must have, they must have really expanded on a lot of things into the movie, actually, where they like... That's what I'd like to know. That's what I would like to know, because I'm thinking like, I don't know,

I can see how what they have here is... Still might be hard to fit all this into a movie is what I was thinking. Okay, okay. That was my takeaway from it is that it's still, you know, you can read pretty fast, and this is still, I don't know,

maybe the movie is three hours long, but I, the more confusing part is the guy in the movie, what's the, what's the character's name? Andy Dufrean. Morgan Freeman, what's his name in the movie?

Red. Oh, he is, he is red in the movie. Yeah, it's red, right? Okay, yeah,

because that's the character's name is red because he has red hair. He said, does they make that joke in the, in the book? Oh, he has red hair. It's like a white guy with red hair in,

oh, it is. Yes, in the book. Yeah. Oh, in the movie. the joke is red and he's like, why do they call you red? Because of my red hair. Morgan Freeman says. Oh, no, I'm pretty sure in the book he makes a comment about his fate is,

and maybe I just missed that, but I could have swore he made some comments about looking in the mirror and seeing his red hair. I'm trying to Google this here. Yeah, in the book, he's a red-haired Irishman, yes. Oh. So that's kind of a funny casting one. No, because in the movie, he goes, like Andy asked him why they call him Red and Morgan Freeman jokes at him and they say, well, you know, when they ask him.

Yeah, it's right here. Actually, yeah, the script includes a joke where Andy asks why he's called Red and he replies. Maybe it's because I'm Irish, a subtle nod to the original story. Okay. Okay. Okay, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's why, because I'm like, when I'm first reading the book, I'm like kind of like trying to plot these characters in my head because of, I at least recognize who they were from the movie. I'm like, hmm, no one is describing old black man looking like Morgan Freeman. That character doesn't exist in this book. And I'm like, realize he was still like a man that can get things on the inside. Yes, yes, because that's like one of the first lines of the book. That might be like the opening line of the book is like, I am a man that can get things.

I'm like, oh, so many memes that Tanner has made and sat and based around this fact right here. What about Brooks? Brooks is a character. He's the old guy that he runs the life. librarian he gets out and does when he gets out does he say the world went and got itself in a big damn hurry like when he's because he'd never yeah i was when i was a kid i saw a car for the yeah he talks about the sheer number of cars right right and like when he was you know he before he was instant and like morgan red makes the speech where he's like you're here long you start to

depend these walls at first you hate them you get institutionalized to him by the end of it you depend on them yeah so that's all the all the all the same. That one and the, what's it, the toughest screw to ever take a turn at that one. Yeah, that one. That one. And then you either get busy living or get busy dying. Yeah.

All the, all the classic lines are right there in the book. I like to think the last thing that went through the warden's head besides that bullet. You know. I really got to watch the movie. I really do. Oh, the movie's so good. I mean, obviously I like the movies. Yeah.

So that's, it was great. I would highly recommend it. Just in the vein of what I'm I'm going to read the body next Because I think that one's like 150 pages or so it's another short That one's where they that's what the song was inspired right by bodies Drowny Pool wasn't inspired by One something's got to give two something's got to give

Would be surprised if they like Stephen King but I'm not sure how close that book of a role that book played in the whole thing So that's a good sports and book segment. Yeah. Yeah. But so you're going Stephen King back to back, though. Going Stephen King?

Because they're shorter. Going Stephen King back to back. And then I'm going to change. I think I'm going to go, I'll say that. I think I'm going to go Ready Player 1 for the following week or for the next one. Who's that by? I don't know. And I also have not seen the movie either, but heard good things about it.

You know what? I read a while back. I'm sure we covered it on sports and books in the time. but along the lines of 1984 and stuff. Did you ever have to read Animal Farm in... Oh, yeah. That was, I think, freshman year. We read Animal.

Well, that's George Orwell, too, isn't it? Yeah, that's why. But it was so short. It was shockingly short. I'm like, oh, there's books this short? Yeah, I mean, because I feel like we read that, you know, over the course of a week or so in class. Oh, yeah.

It's like, maybe like 40 pages long. Yeah, by the time you read 10 pages and have a discussion, that's one day and it takes a week to go through it. but yeah. I mean, that one's all just a big metaphor for, like, was it the Russian government or?

Yeah. See, I read that like a year ago and I've already, my retention on things. It's just absolutely terrible. It's hard, though.

It is. Long-term retention on, like, uh, you said the, the writer of, uh, Project Hail Mary.

Oh, Andy Weir. Andy Weir. And like when he said it, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's Andy Weir, I remember that.

But if you would just, like, if I was on Jeopardy and it was like, who wrote? Project Hail Mary. And I'm like, I don't know, I read it a year ago. I have no idea. Yeah, I think that's also a little bit of the difference, though,

when I have the book and it's always sitting there, and I see the name 50 times, like, while I'm walking around the kitchen, doing it's always looking at me versus when it's on your phone. It's like, yeah, you just open it and Bush Play. Like, so I can see the difference there of how that would happen. This is big news. Have you heard about this? The newest sponsor of the Massonomics podcast is Elite FTS.

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I'm just, we have so many things coming all the time. I never know, like, what all we're forgetting to talk about? I know. There's all this action, nonstop action. Yeah, a lot going on over the next month or two here. Yeah. Just stay tuned. We'll be back next week like we are every single week.

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