Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 521: 11,000 Reviews Later: 1 Month of Gym Radar!

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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Social media, website, everything. Massonomics. What's up, everyone, episode 521, coming at you in your ears of the Massonomics podcast, The Lifting Podcast About Nothing recorded live from the corners of the Dakotas. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy. What did the old computer ladies say at the beginning of the podcast? Thank you for listening to Masonomics.

Or that was at the end. Was that at the end? I think it was at the years. As the end, yeah, yeah, I think so. So what was the intro again? The Masanomics podcast, the world's strongest podcast. Oh, yeah. Something like that.

That was Tyler, though, actually. Do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, his little jingle. What was it? Someone said our YouTube jingle that we use in a lot of gym tours was on a Toyota commercial. Oh, yeah, Toyota. Yeah. Which I'll say it again here, in case anyone's wondering, you know, because we run such a high budget production over here, basically all of our music is just taken from the royalty-free section of YouTube.

They have an audio library. because you know not only is it free, but it also will pass the YouTube copyright test because it's really annoying to put a video out there and then have it flagged for copyright and not get paid anything on it, which there was a few times we did that. And I'm like, well, I'm not going down this road anymore.

So you just take the free songs out of there. And the kind of the standard intro music and outro music we use in our videos, I have heard that on like a women's clothing commercial one time. Someone heard of a Toyota commercial recently. and yeah, like it's there for the taking. Anyone can grab it. But the funny part is that these giant brands are also grabbing the free music.

Like multi-billion dollar multinational companies. Toyota. And they're like, yep, you know what? Get the free stuff. Let's just do it. I guess we're on par with Toyota. That's what that's similar taste. That's my takeaway.

Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. What else I want you to be hearing is something. about our newest sponsor of the show. This is actually exciting news. Our newest sponsor of the show is EliteFTS.com. You guessed it. They're our newest sponsor.

They have, they've been coming out with some new products lately over at EliteFTS.com. They got some of the old favorites, like bands and stuff, but they've got like this Belden bar. It's, have you seen this Belden bar that they recently came out with here? No, I haven't seen it.

It's a interesting little unit. I'll just leave it up to the, listeners to go delete FTS.com and check out the delven. Is this on the homepage or where you see in the set? Yeah, it's on the homepage. It's one of the, there's three hero images that are scrolling through a little too fast from my liking, but yeah.

It's like the principal, I think it has to do with the principal from Save by the Bell. You know, I kind of might know that joke, but I'm just going to take your word for it. I can picture the guy, but I can't think of the actual name. RIP, Screech, am I right?

Yes, exactly. Was Screech bad in real life? I don't know. Didn't he make a sex tape or something? I think that is at the very least, he at least made a sex tape. But was he straight up scumbag. I don't know. See, I was never really a saved by the bell fan, so I was not keeping up on.

Brian said he stabbed someone. Okay. Okay, Ryan says, yeah, yeah. So. Sounds like, yeah, scumbag. confirmed live listener confirmed screech was actually a scumbag. I guess this what happens when people just make fun of you on a sitcom for the first 10 years of your life. You grew up to be the screech guy.

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Okay. Well, Stranko is also in California. Cali. SoCal, if I had to guess. I wonder if it's by St. Diego or something like that. It seems like, is Bayside's not even a real place, I am assuming, right? Well, according to Google, it's an unincorporated community in California, but it seems like it'd just be a really easy name to make up, like that they didn't actually mean that. But the Stranco is located in California.

California and they make the best damn Olympic iron plates that are made in America to be found in any gym and why are their plates good they're smooth yet easy to grip they're black they're e-coded they're made to last lifetime and they're also made to look great in your gym and whether i mean that's my gym massanomics gym your home gym wherever you're listening from they will look great in your gym um i've got a full set of them tanner's got like 10 full set of of them and uh they've they've held up to the years of abuse so get yourself odd number of 45 pound strength co plates for what that's worth oh it looks good though when i was in the gym the other day i'm like man this looks really good on here but uh get a pair for yourself the strength

dot co and um you won't regret it do you know who mario lopez is uh yeah is a c slater yes he looks the same. That guy does not age. I think actually. That guy's, it's insane. I think that that guy looks younger, the older he gets. Aging in reverse. It's Benjamin. Mike button. We all need whatever he's got. Like, he's got to be like 50. Probably. Let's see. Age. 52. Yeah. 52. Well, Mario Lopez. hashtag goals, am I right? I'm about as straight as they come, but that's a handsome man for 52. But Mario Lopez is Mario Lopez.

I'm not gay. He cleaned my chaffed with the barbell rescue brush. Let it be known that Tanner is as straight as they come. We've got to get it out there. But with all due respect. But if it comes to Mario Lopez, that's a whole different story. And nothing that he said there is gay because he is as straight as they come.

If you have to preface anything with like, listen, I'm as straight as they come. That might be an indicator of something. You know what straight guys don't do is qualify how straight they are before they say something. That's kind of true for basically anything, right? Mostly. Okay. Yeah, episode 521. We are going to get Big Nate on the technical guy, Big Nate, in a little bit,

to talk about some GM radar development process. And I don't know what it was like going through some of that stuff and where we're headed next. But first, we've got some other stuff to get through, don't we? Oh, man, we do. This top one might be a title topic for another day. Yeah, I wondered if that seems, that screams a title topic to me, actually. It's just screaming it from the mountain top. So let's move that one down.

We don't want to waste that right now. Yeah. Okay. We'll come back to that one. Anything else catching your, catching your eye on there? Oh, God. There's just, I mean, there's several things in her that. I don't know what they are.

So I don't know, man. Yeah. Do you know about Diamond Gym? You know, I've seen some of the stuff for it. Isn't it just like a hardcore gym where they make you just train really hard and and they scream at you a lot and stuff? Yeah, that's kind of the extent of what I didn't look into it any more than that, but that was what I never watched the YouTube videos, but like they'll get celebrities in there and then they'll scream at them and they like. Oh, do they actually have a YouTube channel and everything?

I don't know if it's their channel or just everyone has a video with their. Okay. That's what I was in sure. I actually don't know because I haven't watched them, but they scream at you and make you go to like RPE10 over and over and over again with no breaks and you like you can't drink water and stuff like that. I don't know. I'm paraphrasing because I don't actually know because I've never watched it. I guess it's like you too, but you know what I'm talking about without even. Yeah, just because I see, like right now they're just making the rounds as far as

right. The people doing commentary videos about them. Right. It sure seems like it's making the rounds. That's my only comment on that. At first I thought it was a new thing, but I don't know if it actually is, right? It's been around a while, doesn't it? I would assume it's been around a while, but I would say they're, no,

motoriety is probably within the last couple years, though. Yeah, and I feel like the peak window was two weeks ago to be talking about them. We've already missed the bullet on it. They're on the other side of the curve here, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's true. Oh, I just had something. Oh, that reminded me of something. Speaking of the curve, I feel like I never hear anything about Kyrraco's Grizzly anymore.

You know, that's a good point because you brought them up in the Gunner-Petersen video. Remember that at the very end? Yeah. And I went and got a clip of him and it brought back all these memories. And same thing. You know, he had his peak at the Arnold that year. It was with, with Rascal. That was the perfect timing for someone to bring him. Oh, man. People were perfect timing. All over that. And it's definitely quieted down since then. It has, hasn't it? Like, is that's just not something I'm just making up in my head? Would you say the same? I think very much so. People did their thing with him and then they've moved on now.

Like if he was at the Arnold this year, it wouldn't have been near as big of a deal as when he was a couple years ago. Oh, no. Yeah. I still think people would be, you know, fling him down, but it was, it was a big deal that one year. It was like he was one of the most popular people in the whole building. It seemed like it. It did.

If not like the, you know, outside of course, Arnold and a couple other people, like he was up there with one of the biggest tickets to get to talk to. Everyone we talked to was like, look at my picture with Grizzly. Like, it was the, um, and then the one other. one to go along with my trifect of these things I'm mentioning, do you know who Malibu Max is, as long as we're talking about people as they're on there, already peaked and on their way down.

I saw the Malibu Max in there, and I really thought you were going to talk about the, just a couple of years that Chevy made a Malibu Station wagon, known as the Malibu Max. No. I really thought, do you know what I'm talking about? Do you know what Malibu Maxes? I know what that vehicle is.

I didn't know what that's called, though. It's called the Chevrolete Malibu Max with two X's. I got to look it up just to make sure. Look it up. You know, we're Malibu people. We're Chevy people on this podcast. We're wagon people. The Malibu Max, man.

That was one of my guesses when you said you got a wagon, you know. Yeah, that's the Chevy freestyle. It is. It was, you know, back when they really know how to do it. The Max SS, I mean, come on, does it get any better than that? That SS would probably be pretty sweet. Put some rims on that. That's what I thought.

for sure you had some commentary on the Malibu Max, the Chevy Malibu Max from 2005. I actually completely forgot about this car existing, but when you said it, that's wild that this was a car. So, I wonder what sold more of the Malibu Max, the Ford Freestyle,

what sold more units. Probably the Ford Freestyle, because I actually still see those. I'm just, but is it just because we're so hyper aware of the four free stuff? No, because I would pay, I'm still aware of the Malibu Max. I haven't seen one of these in Aberdeen ever,

I don't think. No, I knew one person in high school that had, one of these and at the time I thought it was a pretty weird vehicle and I have not seen one of these in so long but I still see freestyles all the time Nate says his parents had one so we can talk about that a little bit of that no Malibu Max you know the guy I'm talking about you don't you know how to wear this guy yeah I do actually yeah so he is this the guy with the bleached blonde hair yeah and isn't he lying about wasn't there some stolen valor or something there of

yeah he'd said he had took an IEDD explosion to the face. I might have facts wrong, so don't because I'm not super... No, that's the story I heard too with this. Yeah, and then it was determined that did not happen. He got drunk and fell down and chipped a tooth. Yes.

While in the service, you know, while, I don't know if what branch he was in, if he was in the Army or what branch it was, but Goob did videos on him, I think, and other people found out too. But I think prior to that, the perception of him is people like him because he's like really positive and he doesn't have anything

bad to say about anyone. He obviously has an interesting look to him because of the plastic surgery that's gone on. That he's like, his face is in a permanent smile, which is, okay. I didn't know how that part worked out for sure. Yeah. I guess that that's what's going on,

but he seems to be continuing to go on even after this. It's just weird how all these people just randomly pick up this wave of Because I'm looking, like his posts, he didn't really have posts until like a month or two ago, unless he went and deleted a bunch of stuff. He might have, maybe it is just a couple months old. I feel like I,

you check, he has a couple posts from like 44 weeks ago, which are his very first post. He has like three, four posts from there. And then his most recent posts are, uh, I don't know.

I guess I'm, I'm reading that wrong. Now it's like, his posting basically started 40 weeks ago. ago and then it just blows up from there. But actually really, no, it's, it's like 44 weeks ago, then like 39 weeks ago, and then all of a sudden it's eight weeks ago and it's just nonstop. So somehow you just magically blow up at eight weeks.

It's kind of the liver king thing where it's like, I don't know. Like, are you playing dumb here or did you actually have a team behind you that was like pulling all the right levers to make this blow up? That would be a very rude because it's really hard to go viral and gain followers now. like harder than ever. Not that it can't be done, but honestly, the more plausible theories

that you were working with the marketing team and they put some PR stuff out there to really pump the viral letter. Yeah. That's what I believe. That's what I believe at the end of the day. No one goes viral anymore. You just pay money.

A couple other follows that I'm enjoying is, I think I told you about Larry one time, right? Yes, we talked about Larry. So Lawrence Betz, L-A-W-R-E-N-C-E-E-T-Z. Check Lawrence out sometime. Larry Betz. Larry B-E-T-Z underscore Sedona. I've had some DMing back and forth with old Larry even after I got into his videos.

I won't even spoil too much of the surprise, but worth a check on some of his stuff. But I noticed at one point in time he's in a home gym with some Kaiser equipment behind it. So I'm like, Larry. you have a home gym with cool equipment. I'm like, where do you live because we do gym tours around the country about home gym equipment. And he DM'd me actually because he was,

he was just appreciative that I was being nice in his comments because, you know, he said, IG can be pretty brutal sometimes. And I imagine it's pretty brutal sometimes for Larry based on the comment section that I read to. I've read several of those comments. Yeah, the one other thing, and I don't know if I've ever put you on this,

but I've been, I think I've got your, I think I've got Ryan on, on to her account. And I know I send Ross it all the time. I send my wife all the time, and my wife now sends her friends. It's Brenda K.

Music. So Brenda, then C-A-Y music. Brenda is a country music singer, I guess, is what you would classify her genre. I'm pulled up here. Yeah, and I didn't really think it was genuinely real at first. And I've later since decided it is real. She's a songwriter who started like,

and I don't know if she's possibly written some songs for people before that have been popular or not, but she's been making her own Instagram music video. Okay. I'm kind of like watching one here, but she's, you also have to listen. Maybe that's part of my problem. I mean, I'm just watching her just talking, I mean, singing to the camera and standing in front of a piano.

So on the surface, it seems pretty tame, but. Yeah. I just greatly enjoy her videos and the comment section. And what I found what led me to another thing, there's an entire genre of, I guess I would say, country music, people on Instagram making these videos who are what I would call. uh, terrible. Not traditionally good. Yes.

But like they have these, they obviously recorded the audio in a studio and then made it to, you know, lip sync as a music video. Yeah. And, and there's always this element you can't tell if the person's being serious or not.

And that's what makes it so entertaining. Okay. I've clicked through a few of these now. I'm getting more of the vibe now. It's, yeah. hers is genuinely real though from all I can tell and the comment section is all very positive. It's over the top positive. Okay, I've been looking at that part. Yeah, it's like, so it's, it's, it's very funny. The comment section is great.

All right. Then the one last person I want to talk, I don't know, I didn't even have this on my thing, but the one last one I want to tell people about because I want people to share, share in this with me. I started following along, with this guy when he had like 3,000 followers. It got fed to me. I don't know why. And I can't remember if I told you about this one or not. It's called his handle is number one. And I don't know if other people see this or it's just I'm so sucked into it. I see it like every day.

But number one. And then it's happy, healthy human. And it's this guy, British guy. And every single video is him. He looks like he lives on some fancy estate in England. And every single video is just him. him saying, I feel happy, I feel healthy, I'm a human being. And he looks like a vampire.

And it's always like, yeah. And I'm, you know, the comments are like, definitely not a vampire, like things like that over and over. Happy check. Healthy, check. Human being, Red X. Yes, I have. I actually don't know if you showed this to me or if it just popped up for me one time. But he now has 119,000 follows and he follows no one.

And every video is just him saying that. into different out he wears all these jazzy outfits and goes all around like what looks like his estate and it's very mysterious everyone's like who is this guy with all this really fancy clothing and all this stuff and you know it's always him breathing yep and then uh you know it's like a daily affirmation thing yes Ryan says I blocked that alien and I don't know why but when I see his I can't Not watch them. And it's the comments. All of these that I'm talking about, the videos, like the thing is I love, I like,

if there's a page I like, it's the comment section. I don't like. That's also, I have some buddies that send me ones. And a lot of times, like, the video's pretty funny, but it's like, that's the setup to the joke. And then you read the comments. It's like, oh, my God. These, the comments, the jokes you have already in these comments is what really makes

this the next level. Yes. Okay. That's all this. Those are good. That's all the influencer. And most of those are not actually that big of accounts. So that's why they're kind of funny to me too.

You feel like you're really in on it with the group that's following along. Like we're all in them together. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know. Should we do some of our segments here? Like, you know, do we want to do supporting our supportive member, certified training facility of the week?

radar report. Yeah, maybe we'll get into those and then, I mean, it'll be time for Nate by then. Yeah, I think so. Can we crack into a cold one or a warm one while we're at it? I thought you'd never ask. What do you got over there that? What's that can? Waterloo, Blackberry Lemonade. Oh, that's a good one. I wish I had a blackberry. Oh, my God. This is not a good one. What's going on with that can? This is a bubbly coconut pineapple. Oh, my God. That's punishment in some countries. Getting one of those. I'm not a big,

I'm not a big coconut guy. Coconut pineapple. I'm not big on either. One of those in my beverage flavors, to be honest. I like pineapple, but not coconut. I don't mind pineapple of the fruit.

If I'm going tropical, pineapple is the direction I want. Yeah, I don't mind pineapple the fruit, but I just don't really care for that flavor in beverages. The coconut ruins it. Got that good sunscreen taste.

That coconut absolutely ruins it. Oh, okay. Oh, Nate said we'll save the radar report for when he's on. Oh, perfect. Okay. Okay. So, but first, supporting our supporting members, this is a relatively new segment.

It's only the 21st time that we've done this segment here in season two of the podcast. So still kind of, you know, it's learning to walk, crawl before it can walk and walk before it can run. Learning to fly, but I ain't got wings, you can say. That's right. this is a segment where we like to give back to those that give to us. So if you're not a supporting member now and you tolerate the Massonomics podcast, we'd love to have you go sign up. You can go to Massonomics.com slash join.

Give you a bunch more information about the different various perks that you can get in on by becoming a supporting member. There are several different levels to join at. All of them include amazing perks and all of them. There's a choice for everyone. There's a budget option for anyone in there. The only thing you can't pick is not getting one at all. This week, supporting our supporting member, Motown's strongest man.

Dodzilla took down first place in his division. It looked like Tyler Thompson and a couple of their crew members were also there supporting him. Big Sydney. Did Scott actually get his name on that thing too? Was that for real? I don't know. I couldn't. I don't know if that was really going on these days.

I never know what's real anymore. I know. You know, isn't that the problem? Never know if accomplishments are real or fake. So it just makes me just not excited about anything ever. Yes. Big Sydney accepted her family medicine residency in Wichita, Kansas. So she's going to be paired up with Big Garrett down there.

Not in Kansas anymore. Or maybe they are. But they are. Big Mo hit a family crew PR by getting his son Big Zach to sign up. So another crew member in the family. It's just like being born all over again. I think that's the baptismal. Born again.

His baptismal chest will be on the way in the mail. Big Matt is expanding his European family with a new baby on board. Oh, that's what I call National Lampoons European Vacation. Big Joe Lisa was this week's guest on unpaid and underrated. Go give it a listen. One thing I enjoyed from this week's episode, I think it was Joe and Joey talking. And you know how we have the running schick about whenever you don't like a genre of music.

You say it all sounds the same. And Joe did say that on the episode. He said, because he was talking about modern country music, you know, like Nashville country music. And he said, not in joke, he said it all sounds the same. But he brought up, those, the two of them brought out something that I think is funny. It's like an add-on to that conversation that I don't think we've ever mentioned. And I know I'm guilty of doing this before and probably most people are.

if someone says they don't like a band or an artist that you like and you've seen them live, you say, well, you got to see them live, though. That's what I'm, like, they brought that up. And I'm like, that is what people say. Like, and I'm sure I've done it before. Yeah, all about that live performance. The crowd, oh, no, you see them live.

You'll think way different than I trust me, you see them live. You'll think this vanilla music is way different. Because he brought it up in the context of, I think, Dave Matthews band. Someone's like his buddy, like, you got to come see him live. And he went and saw him live. And he's like, I think I hate him more. Yeah, that's like a more extreme example. Yeah, that is an extreme example.

You want a 30 minute flute solo? Here we go. Yes. But I do like that. You got to, oh, you got to see them live. That'll change your mind. How about a certified training facility of the week, courtesy of gymradar.com

slash map. Everyone that's a certified training facility on Jim Radar gets their pin on a map. And we use that map for a bunch of things. One of the things is finding a certified training facility of the week. Another big thing that we use it for is finding gyms to tour,

which maybe we won't spill all the cool beans just yet, but we might have a little gym tour trip coming up not too long from now. To tide us over though, though until that happens, we'll do a certified trading facility of the week, a bit of a virtual tour with the assistance of jimradar.com. Tommy, is there anywhere in the world? Yeah, you know, I was just randomly clicking around right now.

And one caught my attention here. We're going to a little place called San Antonio. All right, what's the name of the gym? The poolside pump shack. I like the name already. The poolside pump shack. And when you take a look, The name is because it is the poolside pump shack.

There is a pool right next to this pump. This here, Pumpshack has a pool located right outside of it. First photo has the banner. Very nice. But we want to see the gym here. Photo number two. We got the silly goose barbell club flag hanging on the wall. We got the Peloton tread and the Peloton bike.

This is a Peloton household we're looking at here. So with one subscription, do you get to do both of those? you get both of them. Almost say, there's some economies of scale on there. At that point. Yeah. You know,

that's how they get you. You know, you got a couple people in your family all using that. You're really coming out ahead then. That's, that's, it's almost like he,

it would cost him more money to not have both of those. It would cost him a lot of money to cancel that subscription. He has to keep it forever. He would lose money by doing that. The next photo, we can actually,

photo number three, we can actually see the here. And it's nice and bright because it's got on the one side, essentially floor to ceiling windows. So it's letting a lot of light in. We got diamond plate horse stall mats in here. And looking around, all right, there's a couple, okay, there's a few different racks. We might have to get a deeper dive on those in the next photos where we can just seem a little closer. But I can see on the back wall, we got some wall control. Of course, we have the certified training facility flag. There's some barbell storage, different bands, things like that.

But, okay, let's take a closer look. They got a Texas A&M sign. There must be a Texas A&M alum. Go Aggies. Something like that. We got dumbbell racks. We got hex dumbbells here. We got some kettle bells.

Looking at the barbells, Tanner. I see an axle. Do you know, is that like a Titan axle or something? Yeah, and the racks you mentioned, one's PR 4,000. And then he's got the Titan X3 space saving rack. I think it's a wall mounted. Yeah, it is. He's actually got there.

The barbells, he's got the Titan axle, which shows up at a lot of people. A lot of people have that one. That's got to be the most owned axle on Jim Radar. Yeah. He's got a cat barbell, the boss Olympic power bar bar. And then he's got a rogue Bella bar,

2.0. Okay. And then he's got the X-Mark lumberjack curl bar. Do you know, like I'm asking you because I don't, but Jim Raider has actually exposed this to me more. The rogue barbell lineup that aren't the power bars and aren't the deadlift bars and aren't the squat bars. Like when you get to the B&R bars and the Bella bars and all that shit,

do you know what the differences in all of those bars? Just a few of, I mean, the Bella bar is the, you know, the lighter weight bar. If you want to call it the women's bar. Okay. It's like the 35 pound bar, I think. And it's like a 25 millimeter bar or something like that. whatever specs people use for that type of bar. And then, yeah, the BNR, I forget what that one is.

They have, is one just called the hybrid bar? It's like their version of a Texas power bar. I think it's a 28.5 millimeter. Okay. You know, obviously just the regular Ohio bar doesn't have the center. Right. I'm saying obviously. And then I'm like, I don't know.

But the Ohio bar doesn't have the center neural, right? Is that just the standard Ohio bar, right? Yeah, the Ohio bar and it has dual ring marks, I think, too. Yeah. And then they have, What's their, like, really expensive weightlifting bar? What's his name? The Greek guy.

Doesn't start with a P. Is it the Piroz bar or something like that? That sounds right. Yeah, but they do have a lot of bars in there. And then, you know, like there's the West Side bar. Like, or they did have that. I don't even know if that's still in there. They have a bunch of bars that I think that they drop off in a hurry,

the popularity off of, once you get off of the Ohio bars and, you know, the squat and deadlift bars, things like that. Okay, we're going to have this. We got wall control, fat grips, different collars, some, uh, looks like some wrist rollers,

things like that. Also got a mini split. So they're into, uh, temperature control in here. You know, that's, that's always good.

Antonio, imagine that AC comes in handy. Mm-hmm. I can see getting a little toasty in there a few times a year. I'm looking at the rack now, Tanner. This is like number, photo number or like six or something here.

This is, what did you say this is? a rep PR 4,000? Yes. And they have the feet extension out the front. So, yeah, it's kind of like a half rack setup is how they have this thing. And what bench is? It's a rep bench.

Is it like the 4100 or something like that? He's got the AB 3,100. Oh, 3,100. Okay, okay. Got a Voltra too. A little Voltra hiding up there. He's got the Darko Longue bar. He's got the Prime Fitness rotate handles.

Mm-hmm. A few cool pieces there. That's a good collection of bumper plates on there, too. Got the weight extent or the extensions on the front of the rack. So if you wanted to put a higher pull-up bar, I would assume maybe he's using that for his Voltra to get it up higher too. Yep. Looking, what else do we got here?

Back corner, we got a TV. You got a little fan. You got some foam rollers, yoga blocks, that type of thing. We got the certificate. And then one of the last photos looking out where you can see the pool. pool looks quite nice. And then you can also see the wall-mounted Titan rack. It's got a drink spotter X-L on that.

You love to see that. Oh, yeah, there's some various vultra mounts on that thing, too. That maybe he's more of a Voltra station for him. I'd like to take a dip in that pool. Get your sweat on in the pump shack and go right into the pool. I mean, do you think you could get strong in the pool-side pump shack? Oh, hell yeah. Oh, you're hell of strong in Big Ross's poolside pump shack.

Golden level 809 points. Tanner is as straight as they come, but he would lift in the poolside pump shack. Start adding that to irrelevant. Tommy, do you think I, Tanner as a straight man, could get strong in there? I want to start off by saying, I promise I am as straight as they come, but I have a dentist appointment tomorrow. Like, yeah, right, you're going to let a man dig around your mouth. Okay.

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Dot store. All right. We're ready for our guest? I am as ready as I'll ever be. Big Nate, welcome to the Massanomics podcast. I thought I'd never make it. Well, let's backtrack, start at the beginning. You've been here before, right?

You've been on the show before. Yeah, I sure have. What a, what a, the last time I was on, well, I don't know if that's true, because there have been times, short times, calling episodes and whatnot. But I think the first. time I was on the massonomics podcast, I may have had to like get out of bed to go be on the podcast. Like it was a very last minute notification.

That's how most people were on the massanomics podcast for the first time. I had to get out of bed to do it. What, what were you on for at the time? Uh, so I had, um, I had launched a brand new product, uh, called massanomics reviews. Um, uh, at that time. And, uh, I remember, uh, like, oh we didn't know we didn't tell you guys we I just got to get before the discord existed I got together some of what uh it was hotly debated this week on

unpaid and underrated the OGs yeah of uh of crew and was just like hey I'm I build a thing to track how many five star reviews Massonomics has and show a random review um I'm gonna I think because previously before I made the website I had made this like crazy widget contraption and I like remember screenshoting it and sending to Tanner and Tanner like gave me a pat on the head and was like okay I was it I was like I gotta do something to get their attention this time so I made a whole video with a bunch of different just people on Instagram that I had never actually talked to because like the crew didn't exist or really anything we were all just unpaid interns at the time

and we made a video and I just remember like getting a DM from Tanner and you were just like what what did what is that? this and I was like, I built a thing. I wanted to get your attention. What year do you think that was? Could you come on the podcast to talk about that? And I was like, yeah. Yeah, so that was pre-supporting members and Discord then. Yeah, I'm just, that was free everything. Yeah, when would that have been? I'm just, I can't piece anything. It's so long ago. I sent you guys, because I was looking, before we launched, Jim Radar, I was looking for that video and I dug it up and sent it to you guys.

And I probably said the date, but there's a lot of information in this, this text. thread so I don't know if I'd ever come here again. But it was pre-COate? That's what I wanted, I was going to say, 2018 and 19 if I had to guess. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I can't remember if it was before or after Matt and I did our whole, he won and I came in second bit because I know it wasn't.

Yeah, what I was going to say is other interesting Nate Masonomics history, you've won a contest before, right? Yeah, I want to. the contest before we just started making up contests for people to win. What did you win? Remind us what you won. I think I know. It's sitting right back there by gym that I'm definitely sitting in. Right there, that's a Texas power bar.

Yeah. I won that. And I won like $60 in Applebee's gift cards. Were we on an Applebee's kick at the time? Yeah, big time. And it took me like, I made that video with my buddy Micah, who is working out with me in the gym at the time. And he, I was like, listen, man, I promise that I will take you like two Applebee's with these gift cards. And it took us like two years to get there. But we finally did it.

Was that the one where you guys were like doing the skit of ordering food or something? Was that what that one was? Were you in the dumpster? The dumpster video was. You're like, there's a million of these in here. And it was the silly Pites because that was a throwout called Throllway Culture. Yes, that was that video. Yeah, yeah, for the contest.

That was the one, the office spinoff where my buddy was like, it was like the black and white cuts back and forth. But yeah, it was the dumpster video. It ended with that because I was like, oh, I need to, it didn't have anything to do with the, or maybe, was it? Now I don't even remember. Well, what I remember most of. I do remember.

I took a trailer to an Applebee's. I wanted to deadlift in. inside of the Applebee's, but I knew a guy that worked inside, but I was too afraid to ask him if I could just carry plates in. So my dad had a huge trailer that we just drove up next to the Applebee's, like on one of the main roads in our area. And I just deadlifted it in front of it, took a video and just drove off. And like the next day I did a video inside the Applebee's and my buddy was like, was that you outside yesterday? And he was like, everyone stopped. I was like, what's that guy doing? I was that. I was me. remember that my son, who's a teenager now, was young enough at the time that he was, he loved the part where you're in the dumpster at the end. And he's like, oh, he's in the dumpster digging around in the trash. Yeah, hey, man, you've got to secure it. We've been securing trash since the good old days.

You also created Tate Sounds, which we've talked about with Dave Tate at least a few times, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, from the makers of Tate Sounds, Jimradar.com. Yeah, yeah, Tate Sounds. That was a, what a crazy little app that is, because that just still exists. And I think people are still using that, like, in his gym very regularly from what I've heard. So I can't kill it.

It has to just sit out on the internet forever, and I got to make sure it doesn't break. Don't want to make Dave mad. He's a newly supporting or a new sponsor to the Bat podcast. So we've got to make sure he stays happy. And then Tommy, have we talked about on our podcast, what, you know, the story of getting Nate involved with Jim Radar then? I think we kind of cover that, you know, I mean, we can do it with the quick crash course again in case people miss the,

maybe we should. The Jim Radar episode, the origin story episode, but. Well, all right, go ahead. I was going to say, I mean, you guys have shared your side. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Let's just hear your side from your side. Because the very quick version, the very quick version of our side is basically like, okay, we have this idea.

can Tommy do this after like an hour? I'm like, nah, this is too much for me. Who do we talk to? Tanner's like, oh, Nate should be the guy. We send out the text. It was like, boom, that was as quick as it was. So that was how it looked from our side. Yeah.

And on my side, I was taking my wife, I don't remember where my wife was, but it was like a Thursday night. And for some reason, usually Friday mornings, my wife, my shout out to floral designs by K, my wife is a floral designer on Fridays. I take all the children so she can work. And usually that's when I run all the errands with the kids. But for some reason, it's Thursday night, I have all of the kids in the minivan,

and I'm pulling into Costco, and I, like, go to, like, change a song on my phone or something, and I look, and I just see, like, a text from, like, Tanner or Tommy. I don't remember who, but it was, like, super secret. It's what I posted it on my Instagram, but, like, super secret project, we need your, and I was just like, what? Like I just did like I was my brain just like stopped or like what what is going on?

I was so confused. And you're just like can we talk on Friday? And I just remember like going to my wife and being like, uh, so is there any time tomorrow like during the day that you're free that I'm like I could just go talk and then she's like what? And well, then we talked about it. And I go upstairs. So here's the thing. You know how like I get really invested in projects and just make I got it. I kind like I kind of have.

to do it. Like, I have to do it. Like, this one's like, I got to. I don't want to. I have to. Yeah, I don't have a choice. They said they were going to take our firstborn or something like that. I don't know if I didn't. So, yeah, I mean, that's how I got into it. And then everything else is, you know, whatever. But just, I can just, every time I think about it, I just think about, like, that pulling into Costco, seeing the text messages and just being like, what the heck? And my immediate reaction is like, I need to send this to Keith and Joey and be like, what do you guys think? But I was like, this feels like something I can't share with them. So I just kept it to myself, and that made it even all the more difficult. Yeah, so other context, if anyone is listening to the show that's not as familiar with Nate yet, Nate is also one of the three that runs the unpaid and underrated podcast, which we just talked about in our supporting or supporting member segments. So that's been going for 150. I don't know.

I started the episode numbers at zero. Keith gets mad about it. I will say also context, if you don't know, who I am. The chaplain of the OK podcast, I do fulfill that duty as well. I think that's important to notice or to note. And also the creator of Strongman scoreboard.

So if you've been to Lift Hardly, and we didn't meet the scoreboard that they've been using for the Strongman thing. I built that with Jake. So that's just another random project that, you know, just to add. Well, all those things added up to when this came up that I'm like, I feel like we should.

asked Nate, because not that I know about what people, what that world is like, but I'm just like, I know Nate has built, I can mean like five things that he's built on a whim for like our jokes. Yes. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because there's massanomics. Bingo as well that's still.

If you want to play, you want to play. I forgot about that one. There's one actually. I was just think there was something else that I just thought of and lost. But yeah. Yeah. Like Lays Search. dot com.

Yes, there you go. Laysearch.com. It's how Keith rates all of his movies. Yeah, we aggregated all of Keith's IMDB ratings into a single easily searchable website. Yeah, all kinds of fun stuff out there in the world. Yeah. So Nate is the guy behind the curtain at Jim, you know, for developing Jim Radar.

I mean, there's a lot of questions. questions I could ask you about Jim Radar, but just any commentary you have about the process first, you know, before I even ask anything specific. Maybe you need some questions. Because we also did end up in a slightly different spot than where we, it's just slightly different than where we said we were going to end up, you know. Oh, I mean, this whole process is crazy because I don't know, I've been a software developer for like 10 years or something. and started out in like a very corporate,

worked for like a Fortune 500 company, just doing businessy stuff. And then I work for a small little development firm. I guess you could call us small little company now, ready software development. And you do it long enough. You know nothing ever has finished the way it started. It's like, I've been around.

Like I know it's like, hey, we want to do this. It's like, sure you do. Okay. And what else do you want? Like, you know what I mean? There's no. locked in thing. And so, I mean, it started with a map and then it became a lot more than a map. And we fell backwards into creating the most comprehensive equipment database online.

Like, it's just, it's what happens when you get people that are passionate about something and you give them the opportunity to actually create something with it. And you find, like, you know, you can see that. Like we were building it, and as we're building it, I'm, like, actively using it to find equipment. I know, that was right. And, like, and it wasn't even done. Like, we didn't have, even have reviews or, like, real metric. Like, only, like, you know, even 20 people are in there.

And I'm using it to see, oh, I didn't realize you could do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love to have that piece. And I'll add that to my, like, I remember we were, like, on the tail end of building it. And I just started getting friends in my life that were coming to me, just being like, hey, like, I want to build a home gym. Like, what do I need? And I was like, I have this thing. I can't show it.

But it's going to be really helped. Can you just wait a little bit? And then I'll, like, it'll make me your life so much easier. Like, even the other day, I got a text. And my friend was like, what's the best home gym equipment brand? I was like, I just made the best tool ever for you. This is going to change your life. And just, you know, send it off to them and send him a bunch of links.

And I was like, here you go. So I don't, I don't, I don't, that didn't answer any questions. Just talking. But go ahead. No, I think it didn't. I mean, because that does, I mean, it was, it was sort of a natural evolution as once things got going, it's like, well, now that we did this, obviously you got to add this now. And like, well, now that this is here, of course we have to do this. And, you know, rinse repeat for like almost six months.

And here we are. To me, the absolute beauty of getting you involved in it is, A, you know, everything about massonomics to begin with. Like, I'm picturing, like, what if alternatively we went to someone that just. is a developer. Well, there was multiple times we talked about, like, something that was maybe unusual or that required a lot of explanation to someone that would be outside of Massanomics. We're like, God, can you imagine if we were working with, like, an agency

or like some big software firm? And I was like, okay, now this is going to sound crazy. We're going to be a lot of backstory here that will provide some context. And it still probably won't make sense, but just trust us on this one. And like that conversation would have had to have happened so many times. And then they've been like, well, and then they would have implemented their weird version of it that also did it probably address the problems or concerns we had. So, yeah, you had the inside knowledge. Yeah.

So what, maybe we'll play some of the unpaid and underrated games. So what would be your least fun, most fun about creating Jim Radar? The least fun. I can start with that because I feel like that. Do you know how to play? You know what the rules are? Oh, yeah, yeah. So for those of you that don't know, there's this podcast called Unpaid and Underrated. It's a bratty little sister podcast of this podcast. And on a weekly basis, we interview members of the crew, which are supporting members. You might have heard of them in the supporting our supporting member segment. We interview them and we get to know them. We help grow the community of like-minded of individuals by getting to know them. And to get to know them, we play all kinds of fun game. And one of those games is least fun, most fun. And I believe the game is played by determining the least fun thing about something and then also the most fun thing about something. And it's a technique that we use to get someone to talk about a specific topic that we might think is interesting.

And the interesting thing at this point is Jim Radar. And this is my ACT prep really shining here as I return the question in form of an answer. the least fun thing um man i just i don't know how to say this but like so in in my my corporate life right everything i've done has been like big corporate enterprisey like the way that and my new the company i work for now is not enterprising in any way shape or form we're very small and nimble that's the word I was going to say. Yeah, yeah. But, like, it's all, we're working, like, business to business.

We're not doing, like, these big public sort of things. And so just, like, the, I don't like, it feels like a buzzword, but, like, the anxiety of building something that is to this scale that just one day we just turn on, just, like, buried me in the dirt. Like, I don't know. if I've ever felt like the weight of the world as I did. And it was like, this is, you know, like the whole joke online and, you know, my buddy Tom, he likes the, you know, my body doesn't know the difference between this and a bear trying to attack me.

But it was like that last month, it was very much like, there is a bear in its name is the gym radar launch. And it is going to slaughter me. And yeah, just like the, and everything was fine until we did our little, a little pre-release. and it just didn't get things didn't work like I wanted them to and I I don't know if I've ever felt my heart sink lower in my chest than watching that happen and then I proceeded to stay up it was like 10 o'clock at night and I think I stayed up for the next five hours trying to just do everything I like it like it was like a like I woke up in the morning and I was like just well you all you worked not just that night I mean you worked on that tirelessly for a long time after that Oh, yeah, I was just like three hours a night, every night, just all I could think. Like, I'd be like lifting and just being like, what else could we do to make this? Like, what else could? What, I'm not, I'm missing something.

Like, I was, yeah, I had spiled. And you know what? It was perfectly fine. No bears killed me and everything was fine. But you're going to laugh about it today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, that test proved out to be like super valuable because look at how good it works now. You know, like.

all the wood to not. Lord willing, that just keeps up. Yeah. But yeah, so that's probably like those, because we were worried about that too. You know, that like all of a sudden became all three of us like our, it was like, okay, well that we're really, you know, it's always like, because I'm the same way with anxiety. So it's just like, okay, what am I going to worry about next?

So when that presented itself, I'm like, well, I'm going to worry about this. This is the only thing to worry about. It doesn't matter if anyone use it. this or not. This is the only thing that matters anymore. Right, right. But then that was our, all of our big worry for a while. But then it's funny, like the day that it's like, okay, yeah, I think it's like working good. And like I'm like real confident that's not a concern. And then it's like, all right. What can I worry about more next? We'll just never think about that again. Find the, yeah, find the next thing to fixate on.

Like I haven't been worried about that at all. But you always just find something else like to think about next. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Like I'm not a super anchor. guy like I'm a Calvinist like sovereignty of God kind of guy like you know it's all it's all good and that but that man I just could not give my head or like I was just buried man that was

tough so yeah other than that that was great so that was least fun that makes sense yeah least fun that like sleep all that you know but hey who needs sleep anyway but the most I mean the most fun is I don't know just

every time I make something whether it be glazed search, whether it be, I don't know, TaitSounds.com. Like, seeing other people use it is just the coolest thing ever. Like, it's the best feeling.

And you guys make tons of stuff. Like, you know that feeling. But, like, when you get to create something, you, like, put it out there and people are like, whoa, I like using this. And getting to see people, like, use the thing and seeing it, like, work the way you want it to. Like, going in and seeing the map grow

and seeing, like, working on, like, data for, like, what pieces are most owned and just seeing all of that data aggregate. And it's like, this is just so cool. And, you know, I guess you could just say the friends we made along the way is the answer. But, like, it is, it is awesome to see people coming around and, like, using it and really love. Like, it is absurd to me that in the middle of the workday, I walk in or I, like, log in and people are just flipping in the middle. It doesn't make sense to me that people are so active on it and using it. And I think it's great. It's awesome.

That's the cool. Like I'm not going to put words in your mouth on it, but like this is the boat I'm in. And I would think you similar to like it's also cool here. When you work on this, it's all since it's also combining like your hobby of having a home gym and lifting and like this community and stuff, then it's extra cool when people are using it too because it's like, oh, they're using the. And it's by nature, I believe it's fun to begin with. So like when you're just working on a project that is, I use that word a lot, but it is fun to me. Like it is like a fun, cool thing.

It's just even more cool when it's done. Like if you're building something, you know, if you're working for the Fortune 500 company and you're building whatever, that's going to be behind the scene. A lot of accounts payable process. Right, there you go. That's not fun. Like we can all agree that's not fun.

I don't get very jazzed about a company. table. We're honest. It's cool in the moment. Right. But when you see FitMat, Fat, Matt adding his paribody lap pull down four minutes ago to the buffet snack bar, you know, and like just Big Josh adding his Snake River circus dumbbell. And like, there is always people on this.

Like when you wake up in the morning, you'd be like, there was people doing stuff all night. You know, like two hours ago, someone just made a new gym. Like, that's crazy. Like, it's just a constant state of. of use. It's, yeah, it's super cool.

Yeah. That is the most fun. The most fun part. It's just all the blips on my radar. Yeah. We blipped pretty hard on the radar. What's, is there anything,

trying to ask this in a way that doesn't sound pretentious. What I want you to make sure you understand is you can say bad, bad things here. I'm not fishing for compliments here. I'm saying, okay, okay. Is there anything? that surprised you, because you know us, like we've met in person, I don't know, a handful of times prior to this.

And like, that's the thing like about the massonomics crew. Like we've met in person a few times, but we know each other pretty well. Like you know us, we know you, at least you would think so to some degree. And we know a lot of the people in this crew pretty decently. You kind of know what people like. And you've followed Massonomics for several years, so you've seen what we're up to. but was there anything that surprised you or was different or pissed you off about, like, working with us or that was maybe different than what you expected to be? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I mean, I feel like you guys live a pretty open life in terms of like. Well, Tanner is just the straightest guy. Anyone knows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me start by saying, I am one of the straightest guys I've ever come. Ross. Yeah.

We don't hide that. You know, what we, what, I guess what you're saying, what we present on the massonomics podcast and stuff is pretty accurate to what's actually going on. Yeah, like there's no, there's no point.

Like, there was a, something we did in, like there was some message that Tanner sent or something. And I responded with some sort of joke. And it, I could. I knew, like, I could hear the way Tanner reacted,

I could hear, like, Tanner's laugh in my, like, there was, you know, but there was always, like, as much as it was, like, getting work done, um, it, like, it was still just, like, interacting with Tanner and Tommy about anything else I've ever interacted with them on. Um, yeah, I don't know. The only, like, what I didn't expect was the fact that, like, I haven't done, like, contract work where it was, like, working one-on-one with a customer in forever. So that was just like a whole like mental model shift of just getting back.

Because like currently like what I do right now is I work on one product for our company. And we would like I build that and that's it. And so like we said it's a long term thing too, right? Like this isn't like a one or two month project. No. Like we've so shout out to ability business. We built register. It's a point of sale system for small businesses that use quickbooks online.

Go buy it. If you're a small business, go buy it. go buy it. And that is, you know, if the Lord wills, that's going to keep our company alive. And if it doesn't, we're in trouble. So like, you know, yeah, it's the long haul product there. And so we built that and that's, it's just maintaining that product. And, you know, there's not an interaction with customers for me from like on my side. And like, you know, so doing that, I haven't done that for like three or four years. So like, Tommy's like, hey, what do you do about like manage? How can we like manage these tasks? was just like great question.

Like, I don't know. What do you guys want to do? Actually, I totally forgot about that. Yes. It was like, Hey, there's a lot of stuff. I was like,

I know this is really unprofessional, but here's like 60 tasks. And Tommy just writes back, do you have like a system for this? And I was like, well, no, do you? Like,

not the most like, and that's more on me than you guys. But like, well, no. And that was like, assana, I think worked fine.

Like, that's what Tanner I used her for everything. And like, it was more of like, oh, Nate has some sophisticated system he's using. and like obviously we'll use that, but then when you're like, no, whatever, and we hopped in a sauna. And I actually think that worked pretty good as far as knowing what was the priority and what had to be done.

It seemed fairly smooth. It works substantially better than me just texting. So did you guys, so have you guys considered GDPR yet? Like, also, what are we doing about whatever this thing? Like, you know what I mean? Way better than that. Well, which we all know, all of us work in a way that is not that normally. So it's like we get into a system.

Right, because then we end up with like 40 different. text, you know, it's like, I don't, like, what's the priority here? It's almost like systems are important. Yeah, yeah. Agile or something. So, yeah, I mean, you had to deal with also, like, since you're right to the customer every time that we're like, well, what about adding this? You know, and I feel like that would be a hurdle for a lot of people because it's like

the customer is constantly thinking of like, well, why don't we add the X, Y, and Z and Z Z Z X, Z, you know, like. Or, hey, remember that thing we told you we like? We don't like it anymore. And then three weeks later, you're like, this thing sucks. And it's like, you did ask for it. But yeah, you're right, it does suck. Yeah, we'll just add it back in now.

That's the, yeah, that's the common. But that's, I don't know. Like I said, that's just the way it goes. Like that's the development process and, you know, some personal comment, you know, sound out down below. my wrong opinion is if you were using the agile system correctly, this wouldn't, you know, just go off in the comments about how we're totally wrong and our project management system is flawed and we're not scoping things, right?

But you know what, you go do that in the comments. We're the ones with Jim Radar and you're not. That's right. That's something internally we had. So here's what I'll say. If you're talking about Jim Radar out there, positive, negative, somewhere in between, we probably have seen it. We're watching.

Yeah, we're watching. Actually, if you haven't seen the unpaid and under-related t-shirt release video, I'm always watching. And we've gotten a lot of constructive criticism, I think, that's helped shaped. We had tons of beta testers throughout the process, and that's been all really helpful. So first of all, I'd say, we're not against criticism. like that's been helpful and useful for us. I would also say we're human beings and if we see negative stuff,

we'll have comments behind the scenes amongst each other about, you know, like, depending on what it's directed, sometimes it's, hey, this is a good point. What? What? And sometimes it's like, yeah, frig that guy. Am I right? You know, like that comes to be fair, it is 98, 99% positive.

It's like one or two percent negative and then the one or two percent that are negative, once they actually use it, they're like, man, this is even cooler than I thought it was. Like, that kind of is the ultimate decision maker, or, you know, final verdicts and all this is once someone actually gets in and uses it, I don't know if anyone's actually used it and is like, nope, sucks. Like, once, the only people that have, what, what, what sucks? Like, you know what I mean? The only people that have bad stuff to say, like, it's all good.

Yeah, the only people that have really genuinely had bad stuff to say are the people that haven't used it. And once everyone's in there, like, yeah, this is sweet. occasionally get, oh, it'd be cool if it could do this, but no one has got in and been like, oh, boy, what a waste of time. And this is, everyone is worse off for this existing. Like, no one has said that yet. Off the bat, there was like those few people in the big Facebook group that had some negative stuff.

And I reached out and had conversations with each of them. And they all ended up, like, joining and creating gyms and then being like, yep, actually, I was wrong. This is cool. You know. Yeah. It's such a, I hate, it just sounds like a salesperson. But it's like, it's a simple thing.

Like, there's not a lot to it. We tried to, I mean, you guys have said this a lot. We've tried to make it not just a crappy place to be. Like, we tried to make a place that people would like to be that, like, we don't, like, inflate people's egos. Like, we're not doing any of that stuff that just makes other people feel bad about being on it. So it's, it's, you know, a positive place to be. If you like gym equipment and you're not using it, it's just like, but why?

Just go look at cool gyms. Why? If you like home gyms, why would you not want to be on the thing where you can very easily see cool home gyms? It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, why would you? I'm not going to use that. It's like, what's going to hurt? Because, okay, when did you start your home gym, Nate?

When I bought my house in like 2019. Okay. Yeah. So you've had yours. Like, so I'm the, you know, the newest to having a gym in the group here. And I remember, you know, when I started mine in like, what was it like, 2020? I remember, or whenever it was, 23, whatever. I remember being like, okay, I just want to see cool pictures of how people are doing home gyms.

Yeah. And I'm like going on Instagram because like Googling it, it was so hard to find anything that was good. And then I'm on Instagram, like, typing in hashtags, which is also always a disaster of like, hashtag home gym. And it's like, well, I'm not finding anything. And you're like, you're clicking around and it keeps kind of giving you just big profiles. And like, it was so hard to actually find good photos of people. people that just have gyms. Like, that's all I wanted.

Photos of people with gyms. Like, it was not a good way to do it. And here we are. We did it. Well, you could go to a Facebook group and see, like, a bunch of pictures of stalemats. Exactly. Even there. Is this a good deal?

Even like, that's a perfect place for something like that. And a lot of times, that's nine times out of ten, that's actually not what the pulse in there are. But, like, you know, it's, but it's a discussion board. Like, it's not a curated place to create your home gym. profile and allow people to look at it. And that's what we built. We built a place to do that. And it's crazy that when you build a place to do it, it works really well for doing that thing. It's just at the end of the day. But I mean, to your point, Tommy, when I started my home gym,

the like, Coops Facebook group had like maybe a couple thousand people. Like it was so small. It was pre-coated. Like, there was no, I asked a question and got like legitimate responses. No one was like, you idiot, why would you want to work out in a garage? You should actually work out in a sauna. And I'm like, that's not relevant to like, is this barbell good or not? Like, you know what I mean? It's just, it was mostly useful at that point. So if there's anyone listening that's also a bit of a technical guy,

is there anything you'd spill on the behind the scenes? Yeah, you want to give us a rundown on the tech stack and what decisions and why they were made? What's this thing running on? Without getting like too technical, we're boring everyone. but, you know, a high level of what was going on back there. Yeah, so. What do we got under the hood? I mean, I don't know.

Without getting too technical, it's code that runs on a server. Okay, next question. And that might be a little bit forever. You lost me there back. Talk to, explain it like I'm three. So there's computers and they do things. All right in the computer. Yeah.

So Tech Stack, I build everything as of late. I started as a PHP developer, moved to C-sharp, and now I'm a big lover of Svelt. It's a JavaScript framework. A spelt kit is the overarching thing. But I love it. It's super modern and hip and new. And you might know that it's built on that because on

your guys's announcement video that you put up on YouTube. We just got a random like programming YouTuber dude that just commented about, he's like, shout out to the developer. This thing is built in Svelt. And you guys said that. And I was just like, oh, you text me, you're like, check out the YouTube comments. I was like, what? And I like went and looked.

I was like, I know that. That's crazy. I know that guy. Like, it's just. So that was. That had to been pretty cool then. Like, that's cool. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah.

So I don't still want to know how that guy found. it. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Also, how would he find that? Because we didn't mention Sveld anywhere and it's like, how did this guy come across it? But there's ways. Apparently. So is, so is Sveld, like, is it relatively new? Because I don't think that I had ever heard of, not that I'm in the development world at all, but I'm not sure I had ever actually heard of it before this project started. Yeah, yeah. It's, um, I don't know when it started. It's, it is a relatively new, like, framework. I wonder if there's anywhere that says that probably not. But it is, it, for people that might vaguely know, it is like the React. It's a better, it's better. It's

way better than React. It's okay. Because that that was the one that with me knowing almost nothing, I'm like, you know, I know the word React gets thrown around a lot. I'm sure this will be a React thing. And then it wasn't a React thing. So I'm like, well, maybe I have no idea. When, so the story behind like how I came, and this is, we can get, we can get real fun, but the story of how I came to Svel, is when we were looking to start the point of sale system that I built with that ability, we were looking at different ways to basically build it. Because our previous tech stack was like old dot net stuff and it didn't need like a lot of client side stuff and it didn't need to be pretty or anything and work really.

well for web. And so we were looking for new, or we were looking for what framework we wanted to use, like what we wanted to dive into. And our owner, the owner of the company, who's also a developer, was just like, I don't know, I saw this Svelte thing. Maybe you should look at that. And I was like, I don't know. I've heard of this, I heard of this React thing. I'd never been a React developer. and I did some like testing of React and I was like I don't like this but I was like if this is what we're going to do it's what we're going to do and I start you know

or mess with that and he's like you should check it out again I was like okay and I checked it out again and I was like this just makes so much sense it is it is yeah and it's it's kind of changed as of recently into Svelte 5 and again we're just getting into just nerd thoughts but it is they used to have very engaged in this part of it

They used to have, like, in Svelte 4, there was this concept of, like, a magic variables. And, like, just like, they would, the word magic was thrown around a little bit too much. To be honest, that's like a soft. You're like, it's like, how does that work? It's like, oh, it's the magic. And I was like, I don't like that. And Svelte 5 kind of cleans up some of that. But I really, I really do like it.

It works with the way my brain works. And it's, it's great. Well, I got to say, in my mostly uneducated opinion, it seemed like kind of, of any requests we have, it could somehow accommodate that. Like, I was just always waiting for the day to be like, well, unfortunately, like, the keys we have in place, the tech we have in place doesn't allow for that feature. And that never happened. It always, it could always accommodate it somehow.

Like I said, I've said many times. It's the raw HTML. It's unfiltered, uncut, you know, it's just like table talk. So, yeah, we cut the BS out of everything. But at the end of the day, like, we're not, if it was reactive, if it was literally anything, and I said this to you guys, like, we can do anything. Like, at the end of the day, it's just a matter of, like, the how and the how long.

Like, you know what I mean? You can get anything done. Oh, we want it to also, like, ship us to Mars. Well, we can do that. It's just going to take a lot of work. Like, you know, at the end of the day. And so there isn't, there's no, it's open. It's free.

It's, you know, it's, it's, magic. But it is a lot different. But if you come from a world where there are guardrails up, like a square space and like all of these like builder things. Or plugins or yeah, whatever. Yeah, just there's rules.

It's like, yeah, there's no rules. And, you know, that's a double-edged sword as well because you can really hurt yourself. But, you know, there, it's, there's no rule, man. It's just raw code in a code editor that gets built and pushed out to a server and exist on the server. So do whatever you want. on. Like we have no rules. It's pretty great.

I would say for users of Jim Radar, you know, we have over a, as we're listening, everyone's listening now, we have over a thousand registered users with accounts on Jimradar.com. You'll probably even notice this as a user. We didn't just launch and be like, okay, there it is. Like, we're good. And maybe, I don't know how apparent it is, but behind the scenes, we're still actively thinking and talking and working about things all the time. Like that hasn't changed since long launch. And we're one month in. Like, yeah, it was as of today, it's been a month and a day now.

Yeah. So Nate's still been working on stuff. And I think we've got some stuff that's coming that I think only makes it even cooler, honestly. Yeah, there's some pretty good stuff in the pipeline. Tanner, you mentioned, you know, some statistics. I was wondering if you wanted to, if you wanted to do to, uh, go to a radar report. I don't know if you...

You know there's a lead-in music for that, right? Oh, is there now? Yeah, let me... But I just want to warn you, there's like a brief pause, so I don't want you to think it's over. I've listened to the podcast, so I'm familiar. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? Radar love.

There it is. Now we can do the radar report. I do listen, you know, with a podcast, though, that has silence skipping. And I've never, you guys have talked about the gap, and I've always been curious what the gap actually is. How big is it? But, yeah, our radar report.

I don't know. I've got, I've built some dashboards. I got some KPIs. There's a lot of cool information here. I don't know. Let's get dirty on the radar report this week. It's coming straight from the inside of the machine. I mean, we are in.

inside. Like we can't get any deeper. We are just raw, filtered, uncut in here. What do you guys think the average, and we've talked about some of these numbers, I don't know if you guys have even been back in this little dashboard much, but what do you guys think the average amount of barbells owned by people are on Jim Radar? Okay, I cannot remember if we talked about this one or not. My guess it's like five-ish. I thought it was four. I thought we talked about it at one point in time. I think we might have talked about this one.

We might know. Is it? It is five, currently, as it stands now, live, we are live, 5.51 barbells per gym.

How many do you have in your gym? Let's count. One, two, three. Oh, my, oh,

there it is, the image is flipped. Four, five. I probably have like six. So you're right. Right there. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but when I, because I was like, that's crazy.

And when you start to think about it, it makes perfect sense. Like if you're actually training and whatnot, 5.51 makes so much sense. Yeah, it does. Tommy, how many do you have? I could just go to Jim Rider and find this out, but I think I have five or six. So there you go. Also the same. Yeah, two Texas power bars, a rogue bar.

Well, I kind of. Luckily, we have so many gyms in there now that people like me don't, like, throw it out of whack too far anymore. Like, the number still means something, but yeah. What do you think the average number of benches owned? Oh, that's probably actually two or three. It's probably two. I'm going to say two. It's one point six.

Well, that runs up to two. I suppose there's a lot of people that just have one. Because you just have one. There's probably not a lot of people that have 5, 10, 15, like barbells, you know, C.I. That does make sense that that's under two. The more interesting number is racks is not, it's 1.4 racks per gym. That is pretty high that it's, you know, like that it's 1.4. But even today, like, you know, the certified training facility of the week, you know,

they had two racks in there. Like, we're seeing more and more of that, especially when people start adding in Voltros and things like that. They treat that second rack as, is like a functional trainer rack. a setup like that. We are averaging around two pieces of cardio equipment per gym. Okay. So everyone has a treadmill

and a peloton probably. I don't know. Let's see here. What else is good? What else is good? Do you have average number of equipment pieces across the board?

Average number of equipment. What do you mean? Like total equipment pieces like average per gym? Oh, yeah. That's, I couldn't remember if we discussed that. Oh, yeah, yeah. So the average, we need to create like a scientific number for this

that we can use for all calculations going forward. But as of right now, the average equipment per gym is 74.2 pieces. See, that's quite a bit. Like, that's a lot. Well, would you like to guess, I don't know, the right math word. The mathematician is a mathematician. We're back to mean. Everything comes full circle in the mass.

Sonomics podcast. We had a pretty heated mean, medium mode stretch there years ago. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I thought about that a lot, building this. I just every time. And to the point of like other developer,

like other people that would build something like this wouldn't get it, I'm writing like mean, median and mode and it's just like, oh, like that's, oh, that's a bit. We do need it. And I was like, which one is? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But the average, like, So looking, I have a trend of equipment pieces owned and I group it by like buckets. So zero to no equipment, one to five pieces, six to ten pieces, 11 to 20 pieces. And in the 21 to 50 pieces owned in the gym, it's like at like 219, which makes sense because like the average number is around 70. But like the 11 to 20 is like 97 gyms. And it really goes down like you, I mean, obviously the numbers high, but like the number is high.

trend is so interesting that it like it picks up right around the the 20 to 50 piece ownership yeah um let's see what else what other fun stuff do we have um we did a you guys talked a few weeks ago about just like the most dense gyms and i thought that was a really fun you you guys toured somewhere and you said this was the most dense gym that you're talking about in the YouTube video that's coming out to the week that this, it will be, it'll be out tomorrow, actually, right Tommy? Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. So we're talking about pieces per square foot here, basically. Pieces per square foot, you know, the PPSF, as we've always said. That's what we've always said. And as of right now, we'd have to take a look, but Steve Wilson's gym

has, is 36 square feet, has 44 pieces of equipment for a, 12.2 pieces per 10 square feet, which I feel like... He's got over a piece per square foot. There's got a... Well, it's per 10, or else the numbers get real goofy. But that one was interesting.

Yeah, some of these gyms... Matt Stalmat, we know that guy. He's in the top list, so is Mofo. Mofo's got a 7.92 or 7.0. It's mostly smaller gyms there, which makes sense, though. I mean, obviously. But, like, the density concept is really interesting. and just like, hey, at a 120 square feet,

we're still fitting 95 pieces in it? Like, that's so much in such a small, you know, what's a piece of equipment? Right, because, yeah, that can also, you know, having 30 things on a wall control rack is a lot different than having seven machines in a 100-square-foot gym or something, too. Absolutely.

Now, anything else you always want to know while we're on our radar report. Tommy, you got anything else? I'm trying to think if there's anything particular with, I mean, there's definitely metrics that we like to know, but we got to keep a few metrics secret for ourselves. We keep a few things secret. Yeah, without giving way too much. Actually, I would say we're pretty visible about some things that people are very curious. And also, we talk about users all the time.

We talk about gyms. We talk about the database of equipment. And we talk about the number of reviews. And we talk about that stuff because it's all going. very well, you know, like it's, uh, and a lot of it was us to, if you poke around the site, you can find a lot of this stuff. A lot of it is in there. It's not like all of this is top secret either. Yeah. Which, which I, I could go on a, I go on a Keith rant, uh, right now, uh, but, you know, my, my wife was, you know, she's in the wedding business and she got a DM

from a, a wedding. I don't want to start calling people out on a public podcast, but she got a call for a very big like wedding publication. It was like, hey, we saw your stuff. It looks great, yada, yada. Aberdeen magazine? No, it wasn't Aberdeen magazine. We'll call them bastards out. But, you know, they're like, hey, can we set up a phone call?

And I was just like, don't, aren't they like a kind of like a pay to play kind of thing? Like I was talking to her and I was like, you know, don't. Like, yeah, it's good. They reached out. It doesn't mean to do it. But like, just say, you know. And, you know, she talked to him and, you know, everything is like, oh, yeah. And then if you want to pay, like, you can do this.

And if you want to pay, you can do this. and if you want to pay. And I was just like, what the heck? And I, like, went to their website and, like, started digging around. And it was, like, a lot of things that I think about, like, oh, I could see, like, I'm looking for this kind of thing for my wedding. I can go here.

And, like, as I started looking around, I'm like, is any of this, like, legitimate? Or is everyone just paying to do all of this on the site? And I was just, like, she had come down as the middle of it. And I was just getting fierce. And I was like, but you know what's different? Jim Radar is different. Because we don't, it's just there.

just, it's real. All of, like, we didn't, no one's paid us to put their equipment on there to show up in the list. Like, we're just trying to serve the community and put information out that people can use. And what a novel idea. Like, we're not trying to just screw people over and take people out of equipment. Like, we're just trying to help. Like, we've built a helpful pool.

And when you sort things by most owned or most rated or whatever it is, that's all legitimate data like that's coming and like the more people we get on here the more interesting it gets to me at a certain point where I'm like wow this isn't really like a weird slice of the pie that we're sampling this becomes like the actual pie like a representative representation of the actual pie and that's what people are actually buying so like I might see online people's the example we use like people might complain a lot about Titan online but you know what a lot of people actually have in their gyms is tighten equipment of, you know, of certain pieces. And you can start to see like, no, these pieces must be okay.

A, I can read the reviews and actually know, but I see my peers are actually buying this for their gym. So it must be a value proposition there somehow. Yeah, it's almost like, you know, we're not just a bunch of influencers that, you know, aren't being paid to support certain things. What a novel idea. Like, you know what else people put a lot of in their gym that I just, actually, this was maybe the biggest surprise of this whole project to me.

People load up their gyms with stuff from Amazon. And I didn't, I didn't think that happened. You know why? Because no one talks about that that makes videos. Because why is that? I mean, I'm not calling anyone else specifically here, but,

you know, an Amazon affiliate program is like two, three, maybe four percent depending on what the product is. And that's a lot different that they track, they don't track near as long. Yeah. So it's a lot different than what a lot of equipment.

And then also a lot of stuff from Amazon is cheap. So, you know, if you're talking about something that you're getting a two or three percent affiliate on and it's also a product that's under $50, the amount of money monetarily that you can get is just relatively small. But what Jim Riders taught me is a lot of people have a lot of Amazon stuff in their gyms. And I mean, go sort by the brand Amazon. And I think we have like six or 700 products, maybe even more now. Really? Wow. I did that the other day.

I didn't realize we had created that. I was shocked. I was looking for a specific thing. Okay, right here. Amazon, 453 products that exist on Amazon. And actually that number is bigger because we, yes for all is like the biggest Amazon brand. And we split them out there, 48. So if you want to say products that are pretty Amazon specific, yeah, you're talking.

5,600. Yeah, 5,600 right there. I mean, the daisy chains. The daisy chains. What's the most owned? What is the most owned Amazon product? is the Kepi collars and then daisy chains. Great choice.

I mean, that actually makes a lot of that. And then it's the knockoff Meggrip, uh, attachment hand. Uh, is that, is that what those are called? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. And then the end up easy crow. That's where the curl bar fairy goes to shop. Yeah. Yeah.

The dynamometer. I can't help but think like massonomics has had an influence. and getting those into more people's hands. Yes. Those Kepi collars, though, that's one of those things. You click on it, you're like, oh, it's the most own product from Amazon. And then it's rated a 4.67. It's got 24 reviews on the site already.

And as someone that has those, I'm like, yeah, at the price those are at, that totally makes sense. I get exactly why. 62 people that have that product. Like, that's a chunk of the users have that product right there. Yeah, it's at the lowest price in 30 days, buy, by, buy. 4.96. Yeah, 4.96 out of 5 in value from everyone that's reviewed it.

Yeah. Man, I might just have to buy some of these. I mean, that is a classic thing. I'm talking about it, and we have mentioned on the podcast, I've literally used Jim Radar in purchasing decisions, like of things that I've bought for Massonomics Gym, Jim. Jim Radar has influenced me, which is also just kind of hilarious

that part of the team that makes this and then in short order is actually dictating my own behavior. It's like, ah, I'm a, I'm a cog in the wheel here. But that it is proof that, like, you made a good tool. Like, that's the end of the day. Like, if you made something that wasn't useful, you, like, there's a, I want to use this. because I made it.

But I'll be honest, Tanner. I don't go to masanomics reviews.com very much. I don't go to taitsounds.com. I do go to glaze search fairly often, but that's just... Please tell me you're using glaze. But, like, I go to gym radar because it's, like, my friend is looking for how to start a gym. And he's like, what pieces should I get?

And I go there, and previously, it's like searching across all these manufacturers, websites, and it's like, I don't know the name of this. And I can just go in and be like, rack, whatever brand, Arbel, whatever brand. And it's just, I have it all there for all. It's so much, so much easier. It's a useful tool.

What a great thing. Tommy, anything else we need to run down with Nate on Jim Radar. You know, I think we kind of hit all the high points there. Wow. We didn't talk about the Malibu Max, though. Oh, yeah. So your parents had a Malibu Max legitimately. Couldn't let you guys go out of that one.

I'm glad you got that up. I did. I was, you guys said that and I was like, that name just feels like ingrained in my soul. And I'm like 90% sure that was the car that we had when I would have been like probably like 10 or something at that point. But yeah, I remember.

Back when we used to be a proper country. Yeah. Proper freaking country. We had, it was a great car for a while because it had a DVD player and that was just. That was so exciting as a kid. And then I remember, it was like, I think my parents leased it. And I can remember it clear as day right in front of first merit bank on Killian Road.

My mom's trying to turn left to go down to Killian Road back to her house. And just, not the Malibu Bax. There's, it's a, you know, turn lane and then, you know, two lanes. And the person was like, oh, yeah, you're good. Waved her out and just smashed us as we were on the way. We were about to go to a cool kids carnival. for the school. It just ruined everything.

So the Malibu Max, yeah. I watched a lot of Star Wars Revenge of... Not Revenge of the Sith. Whatever the third one is, I don't know. I remember watching that on repeat. My mom is a saint because she played it through the speakers of the actual car. That's so much.

She would just listen to those movies. As long as we're nerds, when you say the third one, do you mean the episode three? Or the third one, third one? Episode 3? Why can't I not remember the name of it? Are you saying like the original sixth one? Yeah, I still know what the proper nomenclature is there at this day anymore.

Oh, Revenge of the Sith. I said it right. Okay. I did, I had it right. I watched a lot of the bonus features on that sucker over and over. If you could wear out a DVD, we would have done it for sure. I have the higher ground. Yeah, so I have the higher ground.

Before I go, I did prepare a game for you guys. Oh, great. Games on games. Do you want to play a game? Yeah, and because we have a game, you know what that means. We have to have the horns. We have to get some horns in the chat. And just a little radar sound.

So if you guys aren't familiar, there's a game we like to play on our brady little sister podcast. called Unpaid and Underrated. It's a very unique game. Many have tried to mimic it, but it hasn't been done exactly right. Tanner, do you know how the game works? Could you explain it to the listeners at home? Yeah, I think it's unpaid and underrated

is the name of the game. That's the name. It is an original or completely original game. Underrated is what you'd say if you like something because it's good. Is that what underrated means? This is Keyes interpretation of underrated and unpaid. Unpaid, nobody wants to be unpaid, so it's bad.

Yes, that's exactly. You've nailed on the head, and for that you get a... Shaboo! Congratulations. So the first level of... Because we work in levels on unpaid and underrated. That's how the game works. and once you pass all of the levels,

you can get into the master dungeon, and when you're in the master dungeon, you can properly be appointed onto the Mount Rushmore of dungeon completers. So if you didn't know that, that is how that works. That's pretty intuitive, so. Yeah, yeah. The first question, comment, topic, I don't know,

this is a Keith and Joey thing. Maps, unpaid, or under, Okay, are we talking like maps, the app made by Apple or maps, the physical paper? Maps the concept. The map, the concept of maps. Well, I mean, I think it's pretty underrated. Like a map is pretty damn useful. As some guys that have been on a few road trips over the last couple years.

Yeah. We've looked at a digital map a few times, haven't we, Tanner? Shout out Lois and Clark, am I right? I think we've had the conversation, though, where if this relied on a physical, like, how would you ever even decide? The places we're going. I'm like, we just turned on four different super highways in a quarter.

Like, I'm like, you could never explain that without just Google Maps telling you where to go. Like that would be, you would just never go that way because it would be so impossible. You'd never take the most efficient realm. Yeah, you'd be just taking the most obvious internet. state that doesn't turn or do anything. And then on top of that, we're not going to roadside attractions or places. We're going to like random ass neighborhoods, which is also just another level of

complexity to this whole thing. So, yeah, maps. So are you saying we didn't used to be a proper country? Oh, man. I know. We used to be a proper country where we busted out the paper map unfolded it. When it was in the back, the pocket behind the seat, you know, in the back seat. if you didn't drive around in a vehicle that had a map in that pocket,

you don't know what a proper country was. And you'd bust that out and you'd always get there. I don't know, maybe it took you an extra two, three, or four hours, but you didn't really know that that you didn't know even know that it took you more time. The bliss. The bliss of travel. Right. Because you didn't know this is three hours away. It was just you were going and you'd get there when you get there.

What I would say additionally, specifically about maps as it relates to Jim Radar, Jim Radar wouldn't exist if not for maps because maps, the certified training facility map is what it was founded on and that's really where the idea sprouted from. Now when you go to the website, you could do a lot of stuff on the website that doesn't even involve the map because ultimately we decided, wait, maybe a visual geographic representation of these gyms is not really the way you would most commonly search for these. That was a bit of a realization at a certain point where it's like, yeah, that's cool. It is cool and it is a cool tool, but it is just a tool. But it is the inspiration behind the whole thing, actually. Like that's where the, without the map, it doesn't exist.

So for that reason, underrated, I think. Thank you, thank you. All right. Level two, we're going to really spice this up. I should have written more of these because I don't like any of them now that, now that we're in it, but here we are. Been there before. Yeah.

Shoot. Unpaid or underrated square space. I know that you guys have, you guys shared some love for that and some comparison in the past, maybe in some greasy situations, but. That reminds me. This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace.

I'll say this. Um, square space, as long as you know what you're getting into, which actually most people like starting a square space site don't know what they're getting into. So maybe this actually doesn't matter. But as long as you know the limitations and the tool you're getting into, it's actually pretty damn good. Um, you know, I do websites for clients and I actually don't use Squarespace like ever. I a couple times have used it as a store because I just know their store system so well. and Shopify is just a beast of a system. But, you know, if you just need to get a simple website up and going,

you could do a lot worse than Squarespace. So with that being said, in my opinion, it's probably actually underrated. Tanner, what do you think? I don't know if I have the least of a leg to stand on in the conversation in the group here, and I recognize that. Although I am pretty familiar with Squarespace.

I'm not familiar with anything else to compare it to. What I would say, as someone that doesn't know how to do anything with creating a site, I could go create a Square Spice website for Tanner's... I'm a really straight guy, but I also mow lawns for living. Website. I could create that website, and I could have that website up and probably looking pretty serviceable in like not that much time. Like in that day, I could have something by the end of the day you look at and be like,

no, Tanner does seem to be really straight and a lawn mowing business. Both I can tell by his website. I'm buying it. So when are we getting that on Jim Radar? That's the real question. You know the square space affiliate. That could hit pretty hard. The other thing I would say, even as someone that doesn't know shit about shit,

It definitely has this limited. Even things that I purse, even with my limited thing that I run into things, I'm like, I can't, not really getting able to do the thing I want to do. I really can't tell people I'm very straight. It's not really hammering the point home. Yeah, it's not getting it across. So where do we land there? That's great, Tanner.

I'm wondering what the perception is. I don't know what the perception is. Well, I think you have to come back to the rules of unpaid and underrated. Right. Well, Keith's rules. So I am saying it's underrated. This is Keith. What is Taylor's?

Taylor's version? This is Keith's version. And I'm saying, for that reason, I'm saying it's underrated. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because it's good. Yes. Because that's what the word means.

And we do support that on the podcast. That is all three of us, three horsemen. and we all would agree to that. What's your take, though? Oh, I've used it. You hit a wall real fast, though. You hit walls real fast. So it is underrated, but for the walls that I've hit, it is very unpaid.

It makes me very angry. I could definitely see that. My wife's website, I was like, I could build this. It will take, I don't need to, though. Like, I can just, here, there's just static. Just leave it. I don't want to CSS, like, just. And people see it, and they're like, it looks great.

And I was like, cool. Have you seen Jim Radar? It's even better. It only took slightly longer to make. Can we get a link to Jim Radar on her website, like in the footer? Could we get a link to Jim Radar on that? We definitely could do that. Yeah, she would never notice.

Yeah, we can put that anywhere we want. All the buttons will now lead to Jim Radar. We can definitely do that. Yeah. That's good for the family. And last thing, this could be devices. This might be a terrible question to ask you guys. Equipment requests unpaid or underrated.

You know, you could say, double-edged sword. It is. It's a hard one. You could say that's the beauty of Jim Radar is that it's taking equipment requests because, I don't know. Has anyone ever made a system online that takes equipment? request before. And has it created a lot of work for us? Yes. Has it created a lot of stress for us? Yes. Does it make Jim Radar good? Probably. Yeah. So. And the what I remind myself with every piece that we add, any piece added is one piece that will be there for the next person.

When they search it, it will pop up. And they will say, oh my God, even that is on Jim Radar. And I do like that thought. Also, it is not an infinite world of equipment out there. I know it's a vast world. I don't know, man. It's like infinite minus one. Listen, all these companies that, you know, start equipment and then you buy from them and then they kind of don't, you know, fulfill it, but there's still a company that we have to have equipment for, even though you might never get it. Here's a beauty peek behind the curtain.

Even companies I don't want to do business with, they're still on Jim radar. That's how comprehensive it is. even someone that I'm like, no, you're blacklisted. I will never buy from you and I will tell anyone that asks me not to buy from you. You're not going to come off a gym radar, though. Like, that's a real thing. And we're not touching ratings? It is what it is.

Yes, that is what it is. I like it, though, probably. Like, I, what I do, I like it because it is a sweet tool for the user. It does, like what Tommy was right. It, we actually, as we live and breathe and speak at this moment, we got a pretty good handle on it. but it's also even that's a double ed sword because we don't want it to get out of control so we're so far down but I always want new ones to be coming in because that tells us you know that's data too that like people are requesting things so it's good to see those coming in

I would say Nate you were correct when we originally started said we can't we have it took us about a day until we realized wait a second we need a cap on this and And the cap of individual requests, any individual user could make per day. Yeah, it was, it was like the first day when someone had requested 60 pieces. And it was, and a lot of those 60 already existed.

And it was just like, man, we can't do this every day with people of them throwing unlimited requests out there and half of them already exists. So we're just populating their gym for them. Like this, yeah, this website will break if that's actually what happens. We'll break all along.

That's more what I mean. Everything involved is get a whole more. We will not be here anymore if that's what this takes. And Nate said, well, we're talking about this limit. And Nate's like, oh, should we limit it to five? And I think we're like, oh, maybe we'll make it 20 or 15 or whatever it was. And we left that for a while until we're like, yeah, that five you talked about, let's do it the five. The five sounds good.

And actually, the five functionally works really well. Like you'd have to pull the audience on this. but the people that have a lot of requests, I think the five works for them. You know, they make their five. They regroup, come back another day, make five more if they've got. And, you know,

they do that a few times and then they've hit everything. And it forces them to prioritize their most important stuff first and make sure we get that added. And then we can get some of that tertiary Amazon crap in there. The neutral group pulldown that exists in 40 different brands that offers that. also like for so everyone gets how it goes like at this point we're a decent bit over 6,000 pieces added in the database. For the major equipment companies that you think of that currently sell gym equipment, here's the caveats. Actually exist today. Sell equipment in the United States.

Really those are the caveats. You just throw the big names, you know, rep rogue, Titan, bells of steel, you know, the big names. Even go down the list to the next 10, we have pretty much. every bit of equipment that they have. Yeah, I mean, we basically don't get requests from them because we have that. Like,

if we get a request, it's because, oh, we forgot to add their generic tricep pushdown bar, right? Their generic lap pull down bar. And okay, yeah,

we'll add that. But we don't really get, we don't really get requests for those anymore. Most of the requests we are down to now are, uh, international companies that we almost had barely knew existed. Um, they did,

on crap and then some vintage, and it's mostly to like, vintage machines now. And by vintage, it's just discontinued machines that the company doesn't even exist anymore. That's a majority of the request. Or it's vintage stuff and there's just not a good photo of it anywhere out there. So it's just actually hard to find documentation of this piece. Yeah.

We've done a lot of, I understand the market of equipment. The thing that blew my freaking mind compared to my expectation, was the number of brands that even existed. I'm sure I threw around numbers at the beginning, like, oh, we'll probably end up with 100 brands in here, you know, and that should be pretty well cover it. And it's, I can't even remember. It's like five, we have 471 brands currently.

Here's the thing. If the history books are to be believed, do not start a fitness equipment company because your chances of surviving a decade have to be in the low single-digit percentage. I mean, this site is littered with the brands, littered with the bones of brands that did not survive their decade. Like, that is what the site has quickly turned into.

It's a graveyard of fitness equipment company brands. Yeah, it is. I mean, there's so many of them. Here lies body masters. Died of dysentery. It is hilarious because, like, I can think back to, like, when Tanner was like, we got a thousand pieces. Like, we have everything.

And it's just like we have 6,000 pieces of equipment. I think in our launch video, we were saying, yep, there might be 2,500 pieces in this thing by the time we lot. I think we said a number like that. And you had to be over 6,000. I guess the speculative thing is what does the number eventually get to? I do, I can see where we are getting more comprehensive. And you can see what the request whittle down to some of this more odd stuff. Like someday will it be to 10,000?

I think we start adding belts and wrist wraps. What will dictate that a lot is if we open up categories, belts, wraps, therapy, recovery tools, things like that. Like those would allow for some explosions of more pieces. But when we look at our end, though, you know, the numbers of people signing up every day stays relatively consistent. And the number of new pieces that gets added is not scaling like the way it was

for the first couple weeks. You know, and this is kind of a behind the scenes thing. I think within a week of us launching the site Tanner, wasn't there a point where there was almost 500 pieces that were being requested? Yeah. Yeah.

And that was with us like working on it hard. And it was just like freaked out about that for a while. Like, and then we're like, oh, we got stuff where we can't work on it every day. Like this could get to a thousand. And then our turnaround time is.

Well, then it looks bad. Yeah, because you request a piece. And it's like, well, it's in the pile of a thousand. We'll get to it someday.

And like, that's not a good user experience either. but we had some things happen behind the scenes where we figured out some ways to clean that up and make it better. So what was your answer, Tommy, on the equipment? What was actually the question, though? What was the equipment requests? Paid or underrated.

They're still underrated. We want them. Bring them on. Yep. We got time for one more because I do have one that I kind of want to hear Tanner go off on. We better do one more. I always got time for one more. All right.

Always time for one more. Unpaid or underrated, because you guys are new to this. This is a thing that I've lived and breathed for 10 years, and this is a new world that gets opened up to you. Unpaid or underrated tech support. So I do a little bit of this in my job, but it's also a little different level here. Tanner is our primary tech support lead.

Tanner, take it away. Yeah, when you're, which is insane to say. It's a warm body. When you email Jim Radar, it's a warm body. Yeah, it's not, you're not getting some chat GPT service, some chat bot. You're getting warm bodies. And that's what I love about Jim Radar. I'm the first line of defense if you have a tech question. Mostly the only line of defense, really.

Tanner's on his own. I just ignore all of them that come to me. Well, here's, and we've had this internal communication, here's what I've learned about it is I'll say nine times out of ten it is a user error and they just figure it out like they ask the question first

and then most of the time by the time you respond they have figured it out because it was a I don't know maybe user error is a harsh way of putting it but like the answer was there they just didn't understand what the answer was yet maybe you know like I don't know if you call that user error what that is, but the solution to their problem existed, they just didn't know how to use it.

They weren't there yet. Yeah, they weren't there yet. And then they usually figure it out in short order. It doesn't require very much work. Sometimes there's head scratchers, though, where I'm like, I don't even know. I can't even answer you because I can't even possibly understand what you're trying to do right now. I don't know what the problem even is, actually. Yeah.

Yeah. And usually I just try to respond politely and like in a way that we're here to help. And most of the time I don't really actually do anything helpful and it all works out. I don't know. Welcome to IT, man. That's just that's what you now understand the function of the business. The second you call us, it all gets fixed and it's not a problem. That's kind of the way it goes a lot of time.

You're now the IT guys standing over someone's shoulder, Tanner. How's the power feel? This is why you guys like it. We really haven't had many bugs, you know, right? Like I just, like, since everything's been, since we've been live, most of the time when it comes up, it's not anything that's our fault or that needs to be fixed. Then there hasn't been near as many lately, too. Like, I think when it was brand new and we had this huge surge and people were figuring it out

and maybe they haven't watched our video yet, they haven't looked at, into anything. It seemed like right away when I was like, oh my gosh, what is this going to be like this all the time? And I think that tech support stuff is kind of, I don't know, maybe there's enough examples out of other people doing it that they figured out. I'm not sure, but it just doesn't come up quite as often, which is sweet. So tech support, Tair? Unpaid? Or underrated? That's unpaid. That's like having to do it is unpaid. It's literal unpaid. It's literal unpaid. work. Yeah.

True. Yeah. But it's a piece of the puzzle and you want people to be happy users and stuff. So you just have to do it. But yeah, it is. It's unpaid though. Yeah. It's hard work.

Well, Tommy, do you want to give a ruling here? No. Did we pass? I don't think I'm, you're the one running the show. I don't think I'm qualified to give a ruling here. I mean. You're the objective third party. I can't give a...

I'm anything but objective. These are my bosses. I'm only allowed to say good things. It is funny. All this to say, for many years, I would be approached at, like, church or just family or things. And it's like, you know, they'd come up to me. And, you know, everyone in the crew is probably experiences.

I'm just like, do you, like, work for these guys or something? Like, now you're like, yes. I actually, I do. I have a working relationship with these felt like we have, we've built. And it's legitimate. Like, it's not just, no, I just talk about them all the time, wear their t-shirts, post about them constantly. No, now it's actually like. You actually have an easy explanation now.

Yeah. Well, I don't know. Easy. Don't go that far, Tommy. Well, you can just say yes. And I go, okay. Yeah. I was, I did have a lot of reservations about the unpaid, you know, ru, like tearing down the unpaid wall.

Well, it's a private offshore. Like, it's a whole, you know. Yeah, there's a system. Like, it's still. As far as the United States government's concerned, everyone here's unpaid. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's what we don't like them. Is that what unpaid means?

I don't know. That's what we have BW tax for. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Warm body. Warm body. Hey, well, I wanted you guys to know, you guys have passed unpaid and underrated. Congratulations to you guys.

five stars on my gym radar of unpaid and underrated. Five out of five in terms of performance, build quality, and value. Oh, brother, the value stars. If I could give you six, I'd give them to you. Excellent. Well, Tommy,

I think we both say great work, Big Nate. Yeah. Thank you. Nate, you did it. I did it. We did it. We did it.

We did it together. Team effort. We couldn't be here without you, too. No, I appreciate it. Listen, crew, people listening. All it takes is building a lot of really dumb websites. For half a decade. Making a ton of really dumb videos and posting in a Discord constantly.

And maybe someday you'll get to build a really cool website with some people that you think are pretty cool. So you just set your heart to it. Never give up. Follow your dreams. And blip on my radar, please. Well said. All right.

Thanks, Big Nate. Thank you, Nate. See you. See you. Bye. Cool, cool beans. There it is. There's cool beans there, didn't you?

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we have been recording this episode for quite a while here tonight. Okay. I don't know if I've made that abundantly clear this episode. Don't want there to be any confusion here. No one should question this. My wife can vouch for me, okay? Okay, I'll toss in one more quick segment here. This is a sports and books segment.

Okay, we got to do. Let's end it on sports and books. That's a good place. We almost need kind of amazing. We don't have music, playing music for sports and books. It's one of the few. You work on that. Yeah, one of the few segments.

I mean, temporarily, do we just want a temporary, you know, something? Like, I'm not saying a stage. Yeah. Okay, I'm just going to pick an old favorite here. Let's see. No, not that. What's this? With the...

No, not that. Well, it kind of is the twins. The sports and the books are kind of the twins. Okay. All right. Well, all right. Yep, I like that logic. With the twins.

There it is. So the sports and the books are the twins, obviously. They are. Okay. Books. Don't have much to report on the actual book part. but I did see Project Hail Mary, which is related to... I was really curious to hear if you watched it.

I've heard really good things. What's the report? It is a good movie. It is a good movie. When I kept thinking, I went to it with my wife, talked to her into going to it with me. We can't give any spoilers. No, and I'm not going to talk about the story at all.

I did think multiple times, though, that if I hadn't read the book, I think I would be a little confused several times during the movie. You think so? You know, because there's a lot that goes on during the book where the character is talking about. talking to himself. Like,

that's kind of how it progressed the story a lot of the time. Is there narration like that? No, there's not really any narration act. Because I was curious how they would do that. Because I'm like, well, there could be things of like,

you know, a lot of visual clues on screen. He could be talking to himself. Like, there could be other characters with dialogue that, like, make things super obvious.

Like, sometimes movies get guilty of making it way too obvious. Right. It's like, oh, okay, come on. They,

they literally tell the story. Yeah. Like, kind of in a way. And so I was curious how, we do this. There was a lot of times where I'm like, man, if you didn't know, like, there was, maybe there's times where there was a visual clue.

And I'm like, they're not exactly making that super obvious or like they just say something once in passing. But if you don't know it, do you just not, is it just like, you're oblivious to it though? And you're like, okay, I guess I never. I think, but we got done. And my life was just like, I'm just kind of confused on a lot of parts there. And I'm like, I actually can totally understand that. I can totally see that.

Whereas you knew everything that was like. I did know everything. Yeah. I will say they stayed pretty, pretty faithful to the book. There was just a couple spots where they changed it a little bit, but nothing in a way that I thought was like egregious or like part of it, I think was in the name of time.

You know, like it's already almost a three hour movie. And there was a couple things where, yeah, they definitely speeded this up or they skipped this. But like, yeah, they don't need a four hour movie. so I can understand that.

But it was good. It was good. If you read the book, you should absolutely, yes, go see it and you will like it a lot. That was my biggest takeaway. For people that didn't read the book,

I can see how you might not enjoy it as much. It does, it does look really, this is the one thing for me, is there was a lot of times where the things were happening. I'm like, man, this really,

is that what you were picturing? This actually aligns with my visual model of this thing. I'm kind of surprised, you know, because sometimes what you think in your head and you're like, oh, that's what they do with that. And sometimes it is an artistic decision where like, no, we just don't want it to look like that because on a movie set that would look dumb or whatever. But there was a lot of things. I'm like, no, that actually, the way they described it in the book, painted a pretty good mental picture of that. And then what they did in the movie aligns with that perfectly.

I'm going to ask this in a way that it doesn't spoil anything, even if you don't know anything. I mean, if you've seen a trailer, I actually even watched the trailer, so I don't know, but like the secondary character, not the main character of the story, what I'll call the secondary character,

the visual representation of him, was, did it seem good? Like, does it seem like you're, do you get sucked into like this is a work? I thought, I didn't have any problems with it.

I thought it worked. I thought it also what is how do they do that for you watching like is there subtitles or is there just a transition point and then you you like you know what I'm saying that was another one where the book goes into quite a bit of explanation on how that works right and here they don't really do that and I and I realized after a while I'm like oh they kind there's some very faint visual clues as to what's going on yeah and then all of a sudden it's just like I all right, we've moved on and we've figured this out and you don't really think about it. And it's kind of confusing because it just, it just sort of happens naturally. But, yeah, without spoiling anything, it's... Right, right. I get, I'm following along. But I was curious how they would establish that part of the story and they do it quickly,

but it's smooth and it kind of tricks you into just going along with it. Okay. I really want to see it. I don't know. I literally don't know if I will get to see it when it's still in the movie theater. I'm guessing it would probably won't be able to. I don't know what I've absolutely could. Like when we're going, like the hype, I didn't want to hype this up too much to her

because I'm like, oh, you know, I was obviously a fan of it and I was into it. I'm like, I don't want you to think this is going to be the best movie ever and you're like, uh, and like before we go in, the guy at the concessions, he's like, oh, Project Hail Mary.

Oh, it's amazing. You guys are going to love this. You know, the guy working? And then while we're in there, it's just, just groups of guys just keep piling into the theater. And my wife's like, geez, actually quite a bit,

a few people at this on a Tuesday night. And that's kind of a big deal. And yeah, I mean, it was like the first time I've been to a movie. Well, typically we go to kids movies, but first time I've been to a movie in a while where there was actually like a fairly full theater. Like people are excited about it. Yeah. I assumed that even Western Northeast South Dakota was going to be busy there for a while.

I would think. And it was an interesting group. It was, you know, 95% men between the ages of what I would describe was probably 16 and 60. Yeah. That were all in there. That makes sense to me, though. It tracks. So you'd give it a...

If I had to sign a number to a movie, it's the problem here is I haven't rated enough movies lately to really think of what my tens are. It's in that seven to eight range, somewhere in there, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, somewhere right in there. All right. Someday I want to follow up and say that I watched it too.

That'll be my goals. Hashtag goals. All right. Anything else for this week's episode before we put a bow on it? Well, technically sports and books, you have to have a sports segment. Oh, yeah, that's true. There's much sports, though. There's college basketball going on. Yeah, watch that.

I don't know shit about it. Hardly. I haven't been watching anything. I've paid some attention, but yeah, not enough to have much actual comments. Actually, I did watch a few games this past. I should, the games were on in my house this past weekend, and I caught a couple that went down to the buzzer. And it is always fun to catch those, especially when you don't care at all about. about the teams.

You're like, nope, I just want to see something fun. And that's, so there was a few that tick that box. I went to first track meet of the season last night. Already, day, is indoor season. Yeah, yeah. I like track, so that's, I do like track too. Track's good to watch. They had the indoor track championships on TV like a week or two ago,

and I can always watch track on TV. It's fun. Races are fun. I mean, there's, The long ones can be a little, man. I mean, sometimes, though, it is a finish at the end. But the L-Sprinty. The mile isn't too bad.

$800 is always really good. The mile is, you know, a five-minute race. So, like, give or take, you know, so it's not bad. The sprints are obvious, you know, one, two, and four are highly dramatic in that way. But, yeah, track. Am I right? Track. Now it's a official sports and book segment.

Yep, did it. We do have YouTube videos. The last one that we published as a time of recording was Gunner Peterson's gym tour. An absolute insane gym. You know, watching that video like it just is insane. You can't wrap your head around that unless you watch that video. So do not miss that one. And then the one that comes out next and kind of sharp contrast is this small,

relatively garage gym that is just jam packed as much. much as you could possibly get in a garage gym is in there for strong men powerlifting, anything like that, vintage stuff, a cool collection with a lot of cool stories. So do not miss that one. And then our crew supporting Mailer gift, if you're a supporting member we're going to have coming out sometime this spring, we've got this gift that we're working on. We're actually working on moving towards getting that ordered soon. So you're going to, I'm not giving you the notification of the line in the sand.

yet. But I would just say if you're not signed up yet, you're going to have to get signed up really soon because we are going to approach that line in the sand where you're going to miss out on this or we won't order enough for you or whatever. You will have to put that line somewhere and you're going to want to get a signed up now because it's going to be fun. And if you don't end up with one, you will feel like you're on the wrong side of the history, wrong side of history on that, I think. That's it. Tommy, where do they find you up? I'm at Tom Hock underscore D.

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